Stratfor: France will respond to terrorist attacks by strengthening the fight against ISIS, up to sending ground forces

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France is likely to intensify its participation in the fight against IS, right up to sending expeditionary forces, as it previously did in Africa, experts of the private intelligence and analysis company Stratfor, which is sometimes called the “shadow CIA”, say.



“France has a number of opportunities for retaliation, but the answer is determined by who will be responsible (for the attacks). If it is determined that the IG stands behind the November 13 attack, then France will very likely strengthen its air operation in Syria, ”he quotes RIA News article published on the company's website.

At the same time, analysts say that "the sky of Syria is already overloaded with a coalition and Russian military aircraft, in connection with which France can intensify the operation against the IS in Iraq and in other countries, particularly in Libya."

“Another possibility could be strengthening the training program and equipping anti-Igil forces in Iraq and Syria, and even conducting military operations against key leaders (IS),” experts say.

Stratfor also does not exclude the direction of the expeditionary force, as it was done earlier in the Sahel region of Africa.

“France has been fighting various extremist groups for several years, helping the governments of allied African countries,” experts write. “In this case, France will need transport aviation support from NATO allies, primarily from the United States, ”they said.
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  1. +31
    15 November 2015 10: 34
    Send their foreign legion to Syria? Or will they find new "good terrorists"? Europe and America are so entangled in their games with the Saudis that they are unlikely to develop a new line of behavior. Then you will have to admit that you were wrong.
    1. +1
      15 November 2015 10: 37
      They will send and do everything to stop the fanatics.
      1. +43
        15 November 2015 10: 44
        Quote: Teberii
        They will send and do everything to stop the fanatics.

        My opinion, they first of all need to restore order within themselves, and finally become an independent state, as under De Gaulle.
        And then the order will begin both in the heads and in the republic.
        In the meantime, France is occupied with speeches about some kind of struggle and stopping fanatics without prospects. The USA will not allow them.
        No wonder they sent De Gaulle to Syria before the attack?
        We are waiting for provocations in this complex region.
        1. +31
          15 November 2015 10: 44
          This is what I have been talking about for a long time: 100% - there will be a NATO ground operation! They must have led to this under the pretext of a terrorist attack! They waited, or maybe the Jackals themselves zapped the CRU, zapped the FBI! Just like in Iraq "Desert Storm" after the "test tube" and September 11! Now the new date is November 13 (Friday 13)!
          In Syria, they just need to, like in Iraq, put up their government, cut oil! This is the first. Secondly, loot is not sickly from the budget for many years! And much more. Geopolitically important!
          1. +12
            15 November 2015 11: 27
            NATO will not climb into Syria now, "go head-on" with us and Iran. Yes, and Europe now has no time for "overseas military campaigns" - it would be "with the chaos in their hut" to sort it out first, otherwise terrorist attacks will fall on their heads, like "from a cornucopia." And they, the Europeans, by their very nature, all "seruns", gave the Muslims their cities without a fight, "like we are tolerant, your division!" And the dough they have for a full-scale ground operation is "dumb", and they are not eager to fight.
            There will be a lot of "screeching on the air", but as always, gradually everything will come to naught. They are not fighters, not fighters ... They were corrupted by "well-fed democracy" to the fatal limit - "mustache kirdyk you" by the arrogant and hypocritical "old woman Europe".
            1. +3
              15 November 2015 11: 30
              the abscess has matured and burst, now in general the mess will begin ...
            2. 0
              15 November 2015 13: 24
              In fact, the French have a bunch of military bases in Africa and the most powerful army in Western Europe.
          2. +3
            15 November 2015 11: 42
            Quote: Baikonur
            This is what I have been talking about for a long time: 100% - there will be a NATO ground operation! They must have led to this under the pretext of a terrorist attack! They waited, or maybe the Jackals themselves zapped the CRU, zapped the FBI! Just like in Iraq "Desert Storm" after the "test tube" and September 11! Now the new date is November 13 (Friday 13)!
            In Syria, they just need to, like in Iraq, put up their government, cut oil! This is the first. Secondly, loot is not sickly from the budget for many years! And much more. Geopolitically important!


            100% so! And although he was always skeptical about any conspiracy theories .... In a strange way, this or that incident occurs at the very moment and at the time when it begins to whine with rotten ears from across the ocean! Say what not, but as the wonderful character of Bulgakov Woland said ...- "Facts are the most stubborn thing in the world."
            1. 0
              16 November 2015 04: 26
              Quote: meriem1
              when it starts to fool rotten ears from across the ocean!

              Here is the answer about the ears.
              http://politobzor.net/show-71113-terakty-v-parizhe-ili-reinkarnaciya-gladio.html

              The attacks in Paris or the Reincarnation of Gladio.
          3. +2
            15 November 2015 11: 43
            --------- 100% - there will be a NATO ground operation! They must have led to this under the pretext of a terrorist attack! They waited, or maybe the Jackals themselves zapped the CRU, zapped the FBI! Just like in Iraq "Desert Storm" ------- I think so too - they did the 2nd September 11th! so that the pretext was for the entry of NATO troops, it was not in vain that they heard the "cry" FOR SYRIA ....
            1. +8
              15 November 2015 11: 48
              Quote: kubanec
              100% - there will be a NATO ground operation!

              will not be
              They will strengthen support for the SSA, the Kurds and the bombing, and who else will be warned about blows (for the SSA)
              No one to Syria (at this stage)
              on land, maybe the only combat-ready units of NATO are the USA and Turkey (maybe they are local) - but not one or the other will get there.
              1. 0
                15 November 2015 15: 47
                I support! Of course, special. operations will be ... Just a question - against whom?
            2. +5
              15 November 2015 13: 30
              The French stated that they would not enter the TTP if they were not profitable. The transparent transparent hint of a typical racketeer was not long in coming. France would also hint further. It is symbolic that one of the six terrorist attacks took place not far from the stadium where not only the President of France was present but and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.
            3. +3
              15 November 2015 16: 00
              I think that soon there will be "witnesses" who have heard - FOR ASAD ...
          4. 0
            15 November 2015 13: 28
            come in, be sure to come in. Well, there’s a little provocation - and you can already shoot down our planes
            1. 0
              15 November 2015 20: 29
              And there they cut off our electronics all nafig. And will the paddlers and other fires make, hammering each other in the ass.
            2. +1
              15 November 2015 20: 34
              Quote: Dimka off
              come in, be sure to come in. Well, there’s a little provocation - and you can already shoot down our planes

              I think this is not about Syria, the field of Russia's operation, they understand perfectly well that Syria is lost for them. Of course they will shit with all their might, but the troops will not enter. The terrorist attacks in France are an attempt to rock the situation in Europe itself. Why then were millions of "refugees" pumped there? So France is just the beginning of the big riots that await old Europe. Hey, gayropeans, wait, get it. People are really sorry.
          5. 0
            15 November 2015 15: 56
            In this case, Russia will also have to introduce a ground contingent, it is necessary to graze "partners" there ... It seems that China will not be able to afford to stay away from the ground operation, Uncle Xi has already made a corresponding hint statement ...
        2. +19
          15 November 2015 10: 59
          Gentlemen, do not consider it a cynic, but what interests me most is what kind of jokes will Sharmli Ebdo draw on this subject?
          Although I feel that for jokes in my country they will push cuttings into the fifth points. But over the drowned Syrian boy and the Russian side, you can smile.
          In general, God is not a fraer and glory to God.
          1. +3
            15 November 2015 11: 20
            Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
            Gentlemen, do not consider it a cynic, but what interests me most is what kind of jokes will Sharmli Ebdo draw on this subject?

            none. Reserved condolences.
            1. +7
              15 November 2015 12: 50
              Quote: Das Boot
              none. Reserved condolences.

              Charlie must be urged to ignore the spiteful critics who condemn their work. Let their "talent" show itself in full glory and no human tragedy and national grief will stand in the way of the true French art of self-expression) May Friday the 13th become an inexhaustible source of enchanting jokes.
              1. +1
                15 November 2015 13: 15
                Quote: tomket
                Quote: Das Boot
                none. Reserved condolences.

                Charlie must be urged to ignore the spiteful critics who condemn their work. Let their "talent" show itself in full glory and no human tragedy and national grief will stand in the way of the true French art of self-expression) May Friday the 13th become an inexhaustible source of enchanting jokes.

                I'm looking forward to finding out if there was at least one Charlie insect among the victims of Friday the 13th? If it was, then not everything under the sun is so unfair.
                1. 0
                  16 November 2015 00: 22
                  Quote: Petergofsky73
                  Was there any Charlie insect among the victims of Friday the 13th?

                  Duc there half of Paris went with "I-Charlie". Well, they got it ...
              2. 0
                15 November 2015 13: 25
                Do you know what rating Charlie had?
          2. +6
            15 November 2015 15: 16
            Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
            Gentlemen, do not consider it a cynic, but what interests me most is what kind of jokes will Sharmli Ebdo draw on this subject?

            Like these ones modest drawings with the inscription. Only 13 pieces.
            Then we drew our plane with an ass.
            Beasts.
            Does anyone else feel sorry for these human-like animals shot by the editors of Charlie Ebdo?
        3. +4
          15 November 2015 11: 12
          Quote: Sirocco
          My opinion is, first of all, they need to restore order within themselves

          I agree to 100. The previous terrorist attacks (and the latter, I think) in France were carried out by migrants in the 2nd and 3rd generations, and not by some emissaries who had just left the train in Paris. And in the end - IG is not the Malian Tuaregs, there you will not manage to kill five killed. And in the colored quarters of Paris, meanwhile, the martyrs' belts quietly equip ...
          1. +24
            15 November 2015 11: 32
            Quote: Das Boot
            Quote: Sirocco
            My opinion is, first of all, they need to restore order within themselves

            I agree to 100. The previous terrorist attacks (and the latter, I think) in France were carried out by migrants in the 2nd and 3rd generations, and not by some emissaries who had just left the train in Paris. And in the end - IG is not the Malian Tuaregs, there you will not manage to kill five killed. And in the colored quarters of Paris, meanwhile, the martyrs' belts quietly equip ...

            The terrorist attacks in France - it was clear only a matter of time. They are neither the first nor the last.
            Special services of France do not work absolutely.
            8 suicide bombers is a terror of loners. These suicide bombers were to be recruited, zombied, prepared to belt, conduct reconnaissance of the area, determine goals, time, escape routes (those who drove), sweeping tracks, etc. etc.
            The organization of these reracts took a lot of time and dozens of people were involved in it (the Saudis warned France another 10 days of ghazad) - but there, as always, their ears were sagged.
            Where is intelligence, wiretapping systems, embedded agents? Where is all this? Therefore, this is not the first terrorist attack in France and not the last.
            And of course, the attitude of the French to the problem in general, they will now begin to blame everyone and everything, walk a couple of marches across the Field of Mars, chat ... and do nothing.
            ..French people .
            1. +6
              15 November 2015 11: 51
              Quote: atalef
              Special services of France do not work absolutely.

              This is first of all. Of course, they all overslept (I want to write another word). In addition, Paris is a symbolic place. The heart of Europe. Yes and the date was chosen amazingly Friday the 13th, on the eve of the opening of the summit on Syria in Antalya. And the frogs will change ...
              1. +4
                15 November 2015 11: 56
                Quote: zennon
                .And nothing will change for the frogmen ...

                100% hi
              2. +1
                15 November 2015 16: 08
                They didn’t overslept anything, but simply closed their eyes, the Central Administration was such a result ... All these terrorist attacks happened on time ...
            2. +4
              15 November 2015 12: 02
              Quote: atalef
              The terrorist attacks in France - it was clear only a matter of time. They are neither the first nor the last.

              yes, the question "will there be terrorist attacks or not?" did not stand. "Where and when?" - it hung in the air for a long time. More precisely, even "When?", Because France is the weakest European link. However, it seems to me that there are no strong links left in Europe ...
              Yesterday F. Lukyanov at Brilev's First Channel expressed the opinion that security models in Europe will change dramatically in the near future and modernization will not follow the American model: "Everyone, the whole world, will follow the Israeli model, when we all begin to understand that here it is now our normal life ... "(c)
            3. +8
              15 November 2015 12: 06
              atalef
              In a similar article, the Sunnis were to blame for you ... yeah, we agreed almost to the point that Russia seemed to be somehow to blame.
              Now, you switched to the French, they say that they are nonsense, they all slammed ..

              I remember when the towers in America fell, Tsrushniki at once found a Saudi passport, a brand new one, not even dusty.
              Now a terrorist attack in Paris, bang, bang and lo and behold, a new Syrian passport was found, with all the visas, it is clearly spelled out how he moved, how he got to France ... the French, doubted in such an obvious and undisguised swindle from the "allies" USA.

              Terrorists, after all, it’s bad luck for you, arrived in Paris from Belgium, partly local, including the née French, so who got it?

              The only problem in France is the complete loss of national independence and following in the wake of the United States, in contrast to the truly great Frenchman, de Gaulle, who at one time mercilessly suppressed such manifestations in France.

              The French are now bad ... well, the logic, some representatives of foreign countries ....

              Although the logic is clear, national and religious strife, this is what you are trying to excite with all your might.
              1. +1
                15 November 2015 12: 16
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                In a similar article, the Sunnis were to blame for you ... yeah, we agreed almost to the point that Russia seemed to be somehow to blame.

                And now the Sunnis, or are you claiming that they were Shiites? And what side is Russia to blame? I spoke about your fellow countrymen and co-religionists fighting in ISIS (I think we have no differences on this issue?). Russia is not guilty of this, your neighbors and their parents are to blame, or why are they going there from Dagestan and Chechnya? Americans paid?
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                I remember when the towers in America fell, Tsrushniki at once found a Saudi passport, a brand new one, not even dusty. Now the terrorist attack in Paris, clap, bang and lo and behold, a Syrian passport was found

                Well, what do you want to say that these are not Muslims?
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                Terrorists, after all, it’s bad luck for you, arrived in Paris from Belgium, partly local, including the née French, so who got it?

                didn’t you answer, are they Muslims or not?
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                The only problem in France is the complete loss of national independence and following in the wake of the United States, in contrast to the truly great Frenchman, de Gaulle, who at one time mercilessly suppressed such manifestations in France.

                Indeed, in Algeria, he crushed them nicely
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                Although the logic is clear, national and religious strife, this is what you are trying to excite with all your might.

                Well, yes, that's why the whole and no, is full of rollers, as people of incomprehensible religion with donkey snouts are yelling hi
                1. +4
                  15 November 2015 12: 23
                  atalef
                  Lying again?
                  And this is a direct, impudent personal insult- "I was talking about your fellow countrymen and fellow believers fighting in ISIS (I think we have no differences on this issue?). Russia is not to blame, your neighbors and their parents are to blame, or why from Dagestan and Chechnya go there? Did the Americans pay? "
                  The incitement of ethnic and religious hatred in the Russian Federation is prosecuted by law.
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                  2. 0
                    15 November 2015 13: 36
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    And this is a direct, impudent personal insult - "I was talking about your fellow countrymen and fellow believers fighting in ISIS (I think we have no differences on this issue?).

                    Well, look, if the recognition of the fact that the immigrants from the Caucasus who are Sunni Muslims are fighting in the ranks of the ISIS is for you a personal insult, sorry, you have to live with it, maybe you call them (bandyuk) Orthodox - Russians, or Jews - just to TOLERANT not to hurt your religious and other feelings, I can’t. hi
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    The incitement of national and religious hatred in the Russian Federation is prosecuted by law

                    Of course. Only since when does recognition of the fact that the militants in ISIS are Sunni Muslims, including those from the Caucasus fighting on their side, be a kindling of the nat. discord?
                    1. +4
                      15 November 2015 14: 04
                      Quote: atalef
                      Of course. Only since when does recognition of the fact that the militants in ISIS are Sunni Muslims, including those from the Caucasus fighting on their side, be a kindling of the nat. discord?

                      I read that a lot of neophytes from Islam go to terror, hang false prophets on their ears. Like, having killed the wrong and even better the wrong Muslim, they will go to heaven. In my opinion, Muslims themselves must fight these phenomena and loudly explaining the lies of such figures. hi
                      1. +3
                        15 November 2015 18: 29
                        Hello IL
                        Correct, worthy, balanced opinion.
                        This is exactly what clergymen of the Russian muftiate are trying to do, unfortunately pumping up money, the Wahhabi underground is too big - Qatar, Saudis and Turkey have invested quite a lot and continue to do it now, especially Qatar.

                        Moreover, the special services of these countries rely on sectarians in the midst of Muslims, for Wahhabism, a trend in Islam, is absolutely alien to Russia.
                        Moreover, the intelligence services of the USA and Great Britain, especially the latter, are very closely involved in this, although to some, this may seem fantastic, but alas, this is exactly so.

                        We look at Chechnya for 10 years, the war, until we found measures and ways to control the situation, including relying on local spiritual authorities, the heresy of Wahhabism in Chechnya was suppressed very severely.

                        We look at Moscow, the largest mosque was built, where the same Chechens gave away a shrine that has no small weight in the midst of Islam to preserve.
                        This is a balanced and competent policy of the country, in which not a few people professing Islam.

                        But against this, by using the most impudent assumptions, generalizing everything and everyone, a certain Atalef is scattering seeds of hatred, and this is very, very bad, because in this way he himself condones that you are not too favored ...
                    2. +2
                      15 November 2015 18: 18
                      atalef (8)
                      Lying again?
                      Is it a state of mind to always lie, or for a fee, to promote religious and other discord?
                      What do I care about your problems with the Sunnis and Shiites, since you yourself, the culprits of all your troubles?
                      Why do I need your fabrications, on the topic that Russian Muslims are guilty of your problems?
                      And even more so, what do I care about, to your speculations about my nationality and religious affiliation, it’s enough that I am a citizen of my country, which includes both Sevkavkaz and Altai and a lot of things, that you, under no circumstances have-envy.

                      Verbiage is what it is called, all your scribble, in an attempt to miserably justify yourselves, contrary to the law of the Russian Federation of activities on this site.
                      (as amended by Federal Law of 08.12.2003 N 162-FZ) 1. Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as humiliating the dignity of a person or a group of persons on the basis of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion , as well as belonging to any social group, committed publicly or using the media or information and telecommunication networks, including the Internet, - (as amended by Federal Law of June 28.06.2014, 179 N XNUMX-FZ) are punished a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wages or other income of the convicted person for a period of one to two years, or deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for a period of up to three years, or compulsory work for a period of up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year, or forced labor for up to four years, or imprisonment for the same rock.
                      Source: http://ppt.ru/kodeks.phtml?kodeks=20&paper=282
                      It seems that only being outside the Russian Federation saves you from this.

                      Summarizing and reproaching, ALL Muslims in Russia, for the actions of a separate, small group of criminals, it’s called _ insulting on ethnic and religious grounds, regardless of faith, so you are no better than ISIS preachers banned in Russia, the essence of actions is the same.
                      1. 0
                        15 November 2015 19: 44
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Summarizing and reproaching, ALL Muslims in Russia, for the actions of a separate, small group of criminals, it’s called _ insulting on ethnic and religious grounds, regardless of faith, so you are no better than ISIS preachers banned in Russia, the essence of actions is the same.

                        Dear, let me intervene in your throwing with feces, first of all I suggest that you separate the grains from the chaff and the lamb from the goats, there was no blame for the Muslims of Russia if you didn’t notice. But what happened? The opinion is that many radical Islamic groups act with tacit consent or disagreement, but also silent, the majority of Muslims. I believe that in the fight against radicals from Islam it is good Muslims who must say their weighty word, without this, no radicalism can be defeated. IMHO
                      2. +1
                        15 November 2015 22: 39
                        Hello
                        Did the herd instinct work?
                        Unlike your fellow tribesman, by this I do not have the habit of throwing myself.
                        I don’t care much about your showdown with Muslims in your BV, but you shouldn’t be worth generalizing and lying to the citizens of Russia.
                        Of the 700 immigrants from Chechnya, 200 found their shameful death in Syria, rightly so, they died and did not mind, 56 pulled out of there, the rest will find their inglorious death.
                        Do you take a lot upon yourself when 1,5 billion people are being stunned in your blind hatred?
                        And the last thing, did I really challenge your opinion in your first post? And this one is really challenging- "I think that in the fight against radicals from Islam, it is good Muslims who must say their weighty word, without this no radicalism can be defeated. IMHO" I wrote the same thing?

                        Are you inattentive, or are the obligations such that even a normal comment should be answered with rudeness, due to a certain affiliation?
                        So you your goats, chase where it should be, without confusing them with the lamb.
                      3. 0
                        15 November 2015 23: 07
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Hello
                        Did the herd instinct work?

                        Hmm ... I didn’t notice this for myself. I decided to express my opinion.
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        I don’t care much about your showdown with Muslims in your BV, but you shouldn’t be worth generalizing and lying to the citizens of Russia.

                        And where did I lie and generalize please indicate.
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Do you take a lot upon yourself when 1,5 billion people are being stunned in your blind hatred?

                        No, well, if you think that you consider my opinion regarding tacit approval / non-approval an insult, then something is wrong in the Kingdom of Denmark.
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Are you inattentive, or are the obligations such that even a normal comment should be answered with rudeness, due to a certain affiliation?

                        I like a certain affiliation, I also like conspiracy theories. What is your plot?
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        So you your goats, chase where it should be, without confusing them with the lamb.

                        And thank you for your kind words fellow
                      4. 0
                        15 November 2015 23: 20
                        Hello
                        An attempt to humor is not your strongest trait.
                        "Well, no, if you think that you consider my opinion about tacit approval / disapproval an insult, then something is wrong in the Danish kingdom." - DO NOT distort the facts.

                        To conspiracy theory, this is to Atalef, he has continuous conspiracies, intrigues and captures of the Dutch marines.

                        At the expense of kind words .. to normal people and kind words. laughing
                      5. +1
                        15 November 2015 23: 33
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Of the 700 immigrants from Chechnya, 200 found their shameful death in Syria, rightly so, they died and did not mind, 56 pulled out of there, the rest will find their inglorious death.

                        so they are still there belay
                        Your works are wonderful, Lord. recognized
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Do you take a lot upon yourself when 1,5 billion people are being stunned in your blind hatred?

                        Have you already signed up for all Muslims? How many did you take on?
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        I believe that in the fight against radicals from Islam, it is good Muslims who must say their weighty word, without this no radicalism can be defeated. IMHO ", did you write the same about that?

                        I agree, as I understand it. good muslim is you.
                        Only any way of repentance. starts at least with recognition.
                        So answer the simple question. who is fighting in ISIS and are they Muslims?
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        you are inattentive, or the obligations are such that even for normal comment, you must respond with rudeness,due to certain affiliation?

                        Good muslim wink
                        It’s you who defend ISIS
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        So you your goats, chase where it should be, without confusing them with the lamb.

                        Lambs, which are Alla I in the bar. shout?
                      6. +1
                        15 November 2015 23: 40
                        atalef (8) IL
                        lie again?
                        I wrote somewhere that they are not there?
                        But have you taken a lot on yourself, insulting 1,5 billion by the Choch, along with the Christians there, along the way, will not bend under such a burden?
                        I wrote somewhere that I, a Muslim? Again Atalef, in his rage, lies like he breathes ..
                        Well, the point of settlement, it’s all ... nonsense of inflamed consciousness, you would have to wet a rag on a boiling forehead, and a Valerian pill, calm down, otherwise in the morning, you gnaw at everything, gnaw at your clave, conspiracies all around, Dutch marines, ISIS there where he is not, in general, Don Quixote is direct in the Sinai desert fighting with windmills ..
                        Cool down, you are contraindicated in communication with those who see your lies right away. From this, my PM is littered with your squeals ...
                      7. 0
                        15 November 2015 23: 46
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        But have you taken a lot on yourself, insulting 1,5 billion by the Choch, along with the Christians there, along the way, will not bend under such a burden?

                        Also Martians (add) and where exactly?
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Cool down, you are contraindicated in communication with those who see your lies right away. From this, my PM is littered with your squeals

                        Publish, I allow wink
                      8. 0
                        16 November 2015 00: 07
                        atalef (8)
                        Read in PM, but what do I do and where do you go, I myself will decide somehow. laughing
                      9. 0
                        16 November 2015 00: 12
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        atalef (8)
                        Read in PM, but what do I do and where do you go, I myself will decide somehow. laughing

                        are you letting me publish Of course, I could not ask, but honestly.
                      10. 0
                        15 November 2015 23: 28
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Why do I need your fabrications, on the topic that Russian Muslims are guilty of your problems?

                        Russian Muslims are not guilty of our problems
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        And even more so, what do I care about, to your speculations about my nationality and religious affiliation, it’s enough that I am a citizen of my country, which includes both Sevkavkaz and Altai and a lot of things, that you, under no circumstances have-envy.

                        Well, we will not be measured by pussy, I hope (both are circumcised wink ) -You are a Muslim, there is nothing shameful, why not write simple and clear
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Verbiage is what it is called, all your scribble, in an attempt to miserably justify yourselves, contrary to the law of the Russian Federation of activities on this site.

                        Strange interpretation of Mr.? Want to write a statement on me?
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Summarizing and reproaching, ALL Muslims in Russia, for the actions of a separate, small group of criminals, it’s called _ insulting on ethnic and religious grounds, regardless of faith, so you are no better than ISIS preachers banned in Russia, the essence of actions is the same.

                        I wonder where you found it in my words. accusations against ALL Muslims of Russia (maybe immediately Peace?)
                        I write to you again, if you believe that the recognition of the fact that Muslims from the Caucasus come to ISIS is a personal insult, alas, you have to live with it
                        By the way, sue the first channel at the same time, now in the news they were talking about this (Muslims from the Caucasus fighting in Igil)
                        Brother hi
                      11. 0
                        15 November 2015 23: 42
                        atalef (8) IL
                        shallows Emelya ...
                        Mnogogoligovlenie, does not add intelligence, look for the Dutch marine, have fun people. laughing
                  3. +2
                    15 November 2015 16: 26
                    This "smart guy" rubbed me in all seriousness on a neighboring topic, demagoguing that Constantine the Great was the emperor of the Byzantine Empire, despite the fact that he lived and ruled before the split of the Roman Empire into Western Roman and East Roman (Byzantine) ... ...
                  4. -2
                    15 November 2015 20: 09
                    Quote: vladkavkaz
                    direct, arrogant personal insult ... Inciting ethnic and religious hatred

                    yes full. Do not act like a PMS hysterical.
                    1. +1
                      15 November 2015 22: 49
                      The boat
                      Are you comrades about yourself? So who is stopping you from acting like you are caught in a lie?
                      1. 0
                        15 November 2015 23: 48
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        The boat
                        Are you comrades about yourself? So who is stopping you from acting like you are caught in a lie?

                        Quote: Das Boot
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        direct, arrogant personal insult ... Inciting ethnic and religious hatred

                        yes full. Do not act like PMShysterical.

                        can you publish the correspondence?
                        You will see familiar words laughing
                      2. 0
                        16 November 2015 00: 01
                        atalef (8
                        Send you a song of Jewish Cossacks?
                        Do you recognize yourself there?
                        In the morning you’re in hysterics .. you’ve felt sorry for you, don’t take care of yourself, wipe yourself at the computer ..
              2. +1
                15 November 2015 13: 33
                The terrorists were Nefransuz. Arabs are not French. They will never recognize the greatness of Karl Martell, La Valletov, and therefore will not accept the French identity. The French just need to throw off the bonds that enveloped them. And then the world will shudder the earth will stain with blood. Executioners like Robespierre, Tierra, Marat again shine.
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                2. 0
                  15 November 2015 13: 59
                  Quote: Morrrow
                  The terrorists were Nefransuz. Arabs are not French

                  Sorry, but among nx was a Frenchman of Arab origin born in Paris
                  1. +1
                    15 November 2015 14: 02
                    But this is non-French. A Chechen born in Moscow is non-Russian. The Arab will never recognize the greatness of Karl Martell, wherever he is born.
                3. +1
                  15 November 2015 17: 29
                  Quote: Morrrow
                  Arabs are not French. They'll never recognize the greatness of Karl Martell


                  If this continues, there will be many such people among the French. How is it in the "Notre Dame Mosque"
                  - Karl Martell was a robber, he was the worst of infidels !! - Iman fanned her nostrils in anger ... - He burns in hell! He was a dirty scoundrel!

                  “He was your ancestor, you fool!” - Jeanne did not give the interlocutor a crack at all not for reasons of decency ...

                  - It does not matter! It doesn’t matter who the person is from, it’s important that he professes the true faith.

                  - That's just all of you heels licked Arabs, which does not matter.
                  ...
                  “Well, they are all the same descendants of the Prophet, in the sense among the Arabs there are his descendants,” Iman objected tentatively.

                  “And we are the descendants of the one who beat these descendants of the Prophet in mortal combat,” Jeanne sighed. - Yes, the ancestors would all have gone to monks all together, when they knew that they could give birth to people like you.
                4. 0
                  15 November 2015 17: 37
                  Quote: Morrrow
                  Arabs are not French. They'll never recognize the greatness of Karl Martell


                  If this continues, there will be many such people among the French. How is it in the "Notre Dame Mosque"
                  - Karl Martell was a robber, he was the worst of infidels !! - Iman fanned her nostrils in anger ... - He burns in hell! He was a dirty scoundrel!

                  “He was your ancestor, you fool!” - Jeanne did not give the interlocutor a crack at all not for reasons of decency ...

                  - It does not matter! It doesn’t matter who the person is from, it’s important that he professes the true faith.

                  - That's just all of you heels licked Arabs, which does not matter.
                  ...
                  “Well, they are all the same descendants of the Prophet, in the sense among the Arabs there are his descendants,” Iman objected tentatively.

                  “And we are the descendants of the one who beat these descendants of the Prophet in mortal combat,” Jeanne sighed. - Yes, the ancestors would all have gone to monks all together, when they knew that they could give birth to people like you.
                  1. 0
                    15 November 2015 17: 46
                    Yes, I’m talking about that. There, their still order of La Valletov carefully drank Arabs
              3. +5
                15 November 2015 16: 14
                Bringing Christians with Muslims, Russians with Chinese, Chinese with Indians, Europe with Russia, Europe with China .... is their blue dream .... In the old days, they had such numbers, why not try again?
                1. 0
                  15 November 2015 17: 40
                  Quote: Karlovar
                  Bringing Christians with Muslims, Russians with Chinese, Chinese with Indians, Europe with Russia, Europe with China .... is their blue dream .... In the old days, they had such numbers, why not try again?

                  Are you hinting at the ZOG again? fellow
            4. +3
              15 November 2015 12: 15
              There are no Frenchmen for a long time - a solid gray mass, the figure 8 is "impressive". I can't imagine that you can just go and kill from the car and no one, no one even thought to stop this - to ram your car, for example, but about 4 in the dark against 1.5 thousand people ......... no one made an attempt to save relatives who were nearby - there are no French people as a nation.
              1. 0
                15 November 2015 13: 52
                And how many terrorists were there in Grozny?
            5. +1
              15 November 2015 12: 51
              Quote: atalef
              go a couple of marches on the Champ de Mars, chat ... and do nothing.
              ..French people .

              Perhaps they will try to pass Paris))))
              1. 0
                15 November 2015 13: 36
                If as in WWI, then not bad.
            6. 0
              15 November 2015 13: 27
              In fact, the French were the first to defeat the Caliphate. First, the Duke of Aquitaine, and then the great and legendary Karl Martell. What do you know about the French?
              1. 0
                15 November 2015 14: 48
                Quote: Morrrow
                In fact, the French were the first to defeat the Caliphate. First, the Duke of Aquitaine, and then the great and legendary Karl Martell. What do you know about the French?

                Well, what do you mean by that?
                In the Middle Ages, Mali was the richest state in the world, and how will this help them now?
                The supreme ruler of the medieval state of Mali, Mansa Musa I (1280–1337) is considered the richest man of the millennium, his fortune is estimated at $ 400 billion (including inflation). His state included the territory of modern Ghana, Timbuktu and Mali. The king received enormous wealth from the sale of salt and gold throughout the world. The ruler spent money mainly on the construction of mosques and charity
                1. 0
                  15 November 2015 16: 27
                  The contribution of the French to military affairs is immeasurable. The French created the tactics of heavy knights. The French came up with maneuver warfare, the French came up with operational art, the French came up with mobilization, the French came up with layered defense, the French came up with assault skirmishers, the French created political terror by terrorizing Vendée for 15 years, killing 300 people there. The French are the craziest people on planet earth.
                  You say that these are soft-bodied people. It is not true.
              2. +2
                15 November 2015 16: 39
                Under Martell, there were no French ... There were Franks (a Germanic tribe, a union of tribes), the Frankish kingdom ... After the collapse of the Frankish Empire, the French nation in the western part formed over time, the German nation in the eastern ...
                1. 0
                  15 November 2015 16: 43
                  What's the difference? Caroling ruled France.
                2. 0
                  15 November 2015 16: 45
                  In general, the French have their pedigree from King Clovis.
          2. +4
            15 November 2015 12: 24
            The "leaders" of the coalition states do not need peace and order in Europe.
            They will enhance all kinds of help to the "moderates". And this means increased opposition to our plans, specifically in Syria.
            They will not stop until they begin to destroy the directors and customers of this performance. And this is a full-scale war ... The forces are unequal, but Moscow is behind us, nowhere to retreat. And the very existence of the Russian state.
            Actually, events have been developing very rapidly lately.
        4. +14
          15 November 2015 11: 12
          Quote: Sirocco

          My opinion, they first of all need to restore order within themselves, and finally become an independent state, as under De Gaulle.
          And then the order will begin both in the heads and in the republic.

          Well, as Roman Babayan said yesterday in the program "The Right to Vote", there is now only one man left in France - Marine Le Pen. Who should be in order?
        5. +2
          15 November 2015 11: 15
          Quote: Sirocco
          first of all, they need to restore order within themselves, finally become an independent state, as under De Gaulle
          Utterly unintelligible! None of the owners (Anglosecs, Ameripedes) will no longer allow France to restore order within itself (“these” have been making disorder there for so long) and become an independent state! France, like other Eurotolerants, has long and tightly been on their hook! "They" took into account the mistakes with De Gaulle! He did it only thanks to his toughness, independence and the situation at the time, and he was immediately "removed", such as "democratically", as a result of "organized" discontent of the people! Now and further it is not possible! Now for the post of President of France "These" put only the one they need! ("democratic", of course)

          PS: You were also instructed by the same "reasoning" about pluses!
          1. +9
            15 November 2015 11: 37
            [quote = Baikonur] Now and then it is not possible! Now for the post of President of France "These" put only the one they need! ("democratic", of course)

            / Quote]
            Well, Kolya Sarkozy is already at a low start, and he’s not visible on the horizon as rivals in the presidential race. Well, betray, deceive, this is how he would be kind. That they have already passed.
            [quote] [/ quote] [quote] Nicolas betrayed his friend Gaddafi at the beginning of the "Arab Spring". During a brutal military campaign that ended in the assassination of the Libyan leader, French fighters were the first to attack Gaddafi’s tanks.
            [/ Quote]
            and how it all started well
          2. +2
            15 November 2015 11: 43
            PS: You were also instructed on the pluses of the same "reasoning"! ,,
            jealousy is a bad feeling, NOT CONSIDERED. I agree that now NOTHING will happen, something unimaginable must happen, so that a sharp breakdown of their tolerance takes place.
            1. +1
              15 November 2015 11: 50
              What does envy have to do with it? Hm!
              And then - I also reasoned, only without quotes!
              Moreover, you agree with me:
              Quote: kotvov
              I agree that now NOTHING will happen, something unimaginable must happen, so that a sharp breakdown of their tolerance takes place.

              1. +2
                15 November 2015 12: 03
                Well, what could happen there? Which of the politicians say so new wave you can watch on the political horizon of France. Alas. There are none. The fact that Marine Le Pen will not pass for president is clear as daylight. Or the Earth’s poles will change places. Remains Nicolas, who, against the backdrop of Hollande, looks like a more militant cockerel. But all his stories from the BV lie on the surface. So alas, the policy of the fifth republic will not change. The external one, at least. Yes, and the internal is likely too. Well, stomped feet, threatened with a fist.
        6. 0
          15 November 2015 12: 46
          “Another possibility could be to strengthen the training and equipment program of anti-Ghilean forces in Iraq and Syria, and even conduct military operations against key leaders (IS)”
          We need to start helping those who are really fighting IS, i.e. the government of Syria and stop supporting US policy. But this will not happen, because France and all the other "allies" of the United States are no longer allies, but satellites of the United States, and without the permission of their master, they cannot even write ...!
        7. +1
          15 November 2015 13: 23
          Just at De Gaulle it all began. Before de Gaulle, the French exported ethnic French. Only in Azhir lived 2 million ethnic French. After De Gaulle, France began to import people, not only the French, but also the Arabs and others. The French need to revive the empire.
        8. 0
          15 November 2015 16: 36
          In the meantime, France is occupied with speeches about some kind of struggle and stopping fanatics without prospects. The USA will not allow them.



          Any ram considers the shepherd a brilliant leader, and the dog - the protector of the herd, although they eat more sheep than wolves.
      2. +3
        15 November 2015 10: 46
        Again will bomb Libya, how to drink to give.
      3. avt
        +8
        15 November 2015 10: 47
        Quote: Teberii
        They will send and do everything to stop the fanatics.

        Quote: LukaSaraev
        This is exactly what I wanted to assume. Why not? Well-trained scumbags. Still to coordinate efforts and set the right goals.

        What are you about ?????? What kind of "fanatics" will the legion d etrange stop ??? Is it not clear that all this idiot is aimed at drawing the ground forces AGAINST ASSAD !? You have blackouts and do not remember WHAT Holland said about Assad ???
      4. +4
        15 November 2015 11: 12
        Quote: Teberii
        Will send and they will do everything to stop the fanatics.


        Where will they be sent? Fanatics AMONG THEM, in France itself. This is a neighbor, colleague, fellow traveler .... You can’t bomb these ....
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      6. 0
        15 November 2015 11: 43
        Quote: Teberii
        They will send and do everything to stop the fanatics.

        That is, they will imitate a solution to the problem, instead of solving it. What to do? Drive out all the Islamists from the country. It does not matter whether they arrived or bred there. Deprivation of citizenship and deportation at 72 o’clock. To save the country you need political will. no, this is not De Gaulle. Hollande will simply say that this is a terrible crime and will cry.
      7. 0
        15 November 2015 14: 42
        there is nothing they cannot do without the USA everywhere their help is needed! This only speaks at a glance how great countries were left without an army if to take it as it is, and now in small it needs the USA.
      8. 0
        15 November 2015 21: 00
        Secretary of State Kerry called a press conference at which he declared the Syrian War and called on the entire American coalition to rally around the United States http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.ru/2015/11/us-declaring-war-on-syria-throu

        gh-paris.html
    2. +1
      15 November 2015 10: 39
      This is exactly what I wanted to suggest. Why not? Well-prepared scumbags. Another would be to coordinate efforts and set the right goals. Correct, I mean that it is necessary to soak even where the "great" Putin bequeathed. No division into confident and moderate.
      1. +15
        15 November 2015 10: 43
        Of course I understand this is a tragedy. And scary. However, I am tormented by some questions. That’s why, there wasn’t such solidarity after the crash of an airplane with Russian tourists? And where is the cartoon from Charlie? And this terrorist attack is Europe’s response to their irresponsible policies. Then what else needs to happen in order for Europe to think head and not stand in front of the USA?
        And further. Maybe this is paranoia, but the terrorist attack in France is not beneficial to ISIS. What is an act of intimidation? But it has long been known that after such actions, the country only strengthens its defense, vigilance and even more longs to destroy terrorists. So you need to look for someone who is profitable. And it’s profitable for the USA. This will allow them to exit the game beautifully. The whole world took up arms against ISIS. And calmly merge your own brainchild. But maybe I'm wrong
        1. 0
          15 November 2015 11: 15
          You know, IMHO, the minds of paranoid people from the State Department are unpredictable.
        2. +2
          15 November 2015 16: 55
          Terrorist attacks can be beneficial to ISIS: their owners, conducting groundwork (operation to rescue IS), will imitate the fight against them (IS), but in reality they will prevent the Russian air forces, Iranians, Kurds from fighting them (IS) ...
      2. +9
        15 November 2015 10: 49
        Quote: LukaSaraev
        This is exactly what I wanted to suggest. Why not? Well-prepared scumbags. Another would be to coordinate efforts and set the right goals. Correct, I mean that it is necessary to soak even where the "great" Putin bequeathed. No division into confident and moderate.

        Yes, they will not listen to the great Putin, Obama’s tame little monkey will listen to what his master will just say, Europe has long lost its sovereignty.
    3. Tor5
      +3
      15 November 2015 10: 45
      Let's see, it may not end in anything.
      1. +7
        15 November 2015 10: 54
        “France has been fighting various extremist groups over the years, helping the governments of allied African countries,
        Libya was well helped ... Yes Sarkozy? How many debts were written off .... Oil is pumped cheap, etc. A prosperous country was bombed and the leader was torn to pieces by the devil ... Where do you want to send your frogs to Syria? Oh well...
        1. 0
          15 November 2015 14: 06
          Do you agree on what you blame the French? In softness or in the assassination of Gaddafi by French special forces?
      2. +1
        15 November 2015 11: 06
        I agree, poryut and shut up. It seems to me that everything will be decided on November 16 after the meeting of 20s.
        1. 0
          15 November 2015 11: 46
          It seems to me that everything will be decided on November 16 after the meeting of 20s. ,,
          but what can be solved there? they’ll talk, agree, and everyone will bend their line.
    4. +5
      15 November 2015 10: 48
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Europe and America are so confused in their games with the Saudis,


      Hollande has a moment of truth, three options: either he goes in the name of France from the Obama coalition to the coalition to Putin (but together with the expeditionary force, and not with the aircraft (but this is revolutionary and Hollande is not peculiar)), or he is eliminated from the impact on ISIS in Syria and Iraq (due to natural cowardice). In the case of the second option, Marine Le Pen will triumphantly take advantage of this.
      In the third embodiment, status qyo is saved.
      1. +22
        15 November 2015 11: 03
        Hollande .. Do you remember how it all began with your smoked friend ..? There is even nothing to write a picture!
    5. +2
      15 November 2015 11: 38
      In fact, their vaunted foreign legion would have long been able to act effectively in Iraq and Syria. After all, it is his task to protect the interests of France abroad. And, given its size and training, concentration in one place could give very good results. soldier
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      2. +6
        15 November 2015 11: 45
        Quote: marlin1203
        In fact, their vaunted foreign legion would have long been able to act effectively in Iraq and Syria. After all, it is his task to protect the interests of France abroad. And, given its size and training, concentration in one place could give very good results. soldier

        But does he have anything to boast about?
        Well, except for Algeria?
        France will never bring strength alone.
        The French always hid behind the backs of others, going on stage at the last second and with important pouting cheeks demanded respect and claiming the fruits of victory (which they always gave them, fearing to offend the sick).
        And now - there will be nothing and nothing will be done - all the more so alone.
        1. 0
          15 November 2015 13: 39
          For example, in Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Libya? Or Karl Martell? To defeat the invincible Caliphate, Karl Martell did not ask anyone for help.
          1. +2
            15 November 2015 14: 30
            Quote: Morrrow
            For example, in Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Libya? Or Karl Martell? To defeat the invincible Caliphate, Karl Martell did not ask anyone for help.

            Karl Martell was not a Frenchman. He was a franc, and this is not the same thing.
            1. -1
              15 November 2015 14: 49
              And then who are the French? And why did Jeanne take Martell's sword?
              1. +1
                15 November 2015 17: 12
                Quote: Morrrow
                And then who are the French? And why did Jeanne take Martell's sword?

                Learn the materiel. The empire of Karl Vedic fell apart. His son could not hold onto the empire. The children of Louis the Pious divided the series into three parts. Lothar, retaining the title of emperor, received only Italy and a narrow strip from the Mediterranean to the North Sea. Karl Lysy became king of the West Frankish state, and Louis the German became king of the East Frankish state. Later, the possessions of the brothers turned into the states that still exist - France, Germany and Italy.
                The answer is clear, who were the Franks? Or follow your logic to declare the Germans and Italians French? Franks, like Goths, Huns, are military hordes that include multilingual tribes. Just look at the names of the warlords of the Franks.
                1. 0
                  15 November 2015 17: 48
                  And who then lived in Paris, Reims, Normandy, Aquitaine? Not francs?
                  1. 0
                    15 November 2015 18: 18
                    Quote: Morrrow
                    And who then lived in Paris, Reims, Normandy, Aquitaine? Not francs?

                    My dear, you just surprise me. But whoever did not live in this territory, even the Slavs, look at the historical map. And regarding Paris. Paris grew up on the site of the settlement of Lutetia (lat. Housing among the water), founded by the Gallic tribe of Paris in the III century BC. e. The settlement was located on the safe island of Cite, surrounded by the waters of the River Seine. At the beginning of the II century BC. e. Lutetia was surrounded by a fortified wall. The basis of the economy of the Celtic settlement was trade: the Seine connected the Mediterranean Sea with the British Isles. Is the answer clear?
          2. +2
            15 November 2015 15: 33
            Quote: Morrrow
            For example, in Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Libya? Or Karl Martell? To defeat the invincible Caliphate, Karl Martell did not ask anyone for help.

            That Karl Martell was given to you! Why are you fooling us? Who is this Karl Martell anyway? Is he your relative? (almost O. Bender about the Studebaker) Joke. But in fact, it is really not very clear why you have already remembered him five times. Which side is he here?
            1. 0
              15 November 2015 16: 30
              He defeated the Caliphate. I propose to erect monuments to him in all cities of Europe, so that they do not forget who Arabs and Muslims are.
              1. 0
                15 November 2015 19: 50
                Quote: Morrrow
                He defeated the Caliphate. I propose to erect monuments to him in all cities of Europe, so that they do not forget who Arabs and Muslims are.

                He did not win, but stopped the advance of the Arabs to the west. These are different things. And Karl didn’t ask for help. Yes, for the battle of Poitiers, he only collected a militia from the Australians, Neustrians and Rhine tribes. And for the war with the Saxons, he concluded military agreements with Slavic tribes, for example, with encouragement.
    6. +5
      15 November 2015 12: 05
      Let them put things in order under their very noses first, and then look further away ... They "took pity" on the refugees from Syria, like they showed their tolerance. And here are the ones on: Broke the shops where they sell pork. When asked why they did this? They answered like they don't show respect for Muslims and ... In Italy, refugees receive 40 euros a day. Sitting with an iPhone ... buzz.
      The end of Europe is shorter
    7. mihasik
      +1
      15 November 2015 13: 22
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Send their foreign legion to Syria? Or will they find new "good terrorists"? Europe and America are so entangled in their games with the Saudis that they are unlikely to develop a new line of behavior. Then you will have to admit that you were wrong.

      It's simple.
      The masks are dropped, because there is nothing to hide and everyone has already understood who Hu is. The war between the West and the East is only at the very beginning. "Stalingrad" will come later!
    8. +3
      15 November 2015 16: 51
      The joke is of course evil ... but in the subject ... hi


      Journalist Charlie Ebdo, hearing the explosions outside the window, calls ISIS:
      - Of course, we are in a creative crisis, thanks for the help ... but we don’t have to come up with covers for us IN OUR TERRITORY!
    9. 0
      15 November 2015 20: 16
      If they send it, they will be forced to coordinate their actions with the Russian Federation, as well as with Assad and Iran.
  2. +7
    15 November 2015 10: 35
    “France has been fighting various extremist groups over the years,
    belay what
    1. -1
      15 November 2015 13: 40
      What surprises you? French troops are scattered throughout Africa and carry out punitive expeditions.
    2. 0
      15 November 2015 13: 42
      Quote: iza top
      “France has been fighting various extremist groups over the years,
      belay what

      yes, nothing comes to mind except the operation in Mali and the failure in Somalia with the lethal "release" of the hostage (
      1. 0
        15 November 2015 13: 50
        EMNIP, Chad, Nigeria, Mali, Libya
        1. +2
          15 November 2015 15: 41
          Quote: Morrrow
          EMNIP, Chad, Nigeria, Mali, Libya

          And all this under the guidance of Karl Martell? Where without him.
          1. 0
            15 November 2015 16: 32
            Who in the West. The army is stronger in Europe? And Karl Martell is my God.
            1. +2
              15 November 2015 16: 34
              Quote: Morrrow
              Who in the West. The army is stronger in Europe? And Karl Martell is my God.

              Do not make yourself an idol. hi
              1. -2
                15 November 2015 17: 56
                If not for him, then you would live in a shack and drink koumiss.
                1. +2
                  15 November 2015 18: 21
                  Quote: Morrrow
                  If not for him, then you would live in a shack and drink koumiss.

                  It’s hard to say who was in the 740s CE more civilized. Arabs or Franks. The Arabs had a long history of writing and mathematics, but the Franks lived in shacks and walked in animal skins.
                  1. +1
                    15 November 2015 21: 57
                    Islam impedes the development of the country.
                2. +1
                  15 November 2015 19: 58
                  Quote: Morrrow
                  If not for him, then you would live in a shack and drink koumiss.

                  Now it was funny.
          2. +1
            15 November 2015 18: 42
            Quote: Petergofsky73
            And all this under the guidance of Karl Martell? Where without him.

            laughing
        2. 0
          15 November 2015 19: 57
          Quote: Morrrow
          EMNIP, Chad, Nigeria, Mali, Libya

          so, like, Manta was in the shaggy 83rd. Enlighten about Nigeria and Libya. It, by the way, was about
          Quote: izya top
          over the years
  3. +7
    15 November 2015 10: 37
    Well, of course, ISIS is now doomed! France will seriously bomb! That is, excavators can not worry! bully
    1. +1
      15 November 2015 11: 18
      Quote: Nymp
      Well, of course, ISIS is now doomed! France will seriously bomb! That is, excavators can not worry! bully

      Only bulldozers will worry wassat
  4. +9
    15 November 2015 10: 38
    Stratfor also does not exclude the direction of the expeditionary force ...

    To ISIS? And where is it? And if it is all the same about Syria and Iraq, have you forgotten to ask the government of the countries?
    1. -7
      15 November 2015 10: 51
      Quote: Yarik
      And if it is still about Syria

      And that Assad controls the entire territory of Syria?
      1. +8
        15 November 2015 10: 54
        Quote: sa-ag
        And that Assad controls the entire territory of Syria?

        And what, Poroshenko controls the entire territory of Ukraine?
        1. 0
          15 November 2015 10: 57
          Quote: Boris55
          And what, Poroshenko controls the entire territory of Ukraine?

          And in Ukraine, what kind of country sent its expeditionary force?
          1. +2
            15 November 2015 11: 08
            Quote: sa-ag
            And in Ukraine, what kind of country sent its expeditionary force?

            It doesn't seem to you that you think with double standards - you can go to Syria without demand, on the basis that Assad does not control part of his territory (you wrote in a post above: "And that Assad controls the entire territory of Syria?"), but you can't go to Ukraine, although Poroshenko doesn't control part of his territory. Why?
            1. 0
              15 November 2015 11: 16
              Quote: Boris55
              but it’s impossible to Ukraine,

              And where I said that it’s impossible, it’s just too late, it was necessary to do this in the spring of 2014
              And to a country whose territory the ruler does not fully control will be sent without asking, especially the fight against terrorism, Assad expressed condolences to Paris in connection with the terrorist attacks, now France is going to send an expeditionary force to fight terrorism and what will Assad object to? He will say "no need", is he not very interested in suddenly looking on the side of ISIS?
              1. +2
                15 November 2015 11: 26
                Quote: sa-ag
                And where did I say that must notis already simple late...

                If by no means, but I really want to, then it is possible ... if it is not too late, but if it is too late, then no, no, no, no! wassat
                Under international law, troops can be deployed at the request of the head of state or with UN approval. Everything else is illegal. As soon as someone crosses the law, he himself becomes outside the law. That's what it is about.
                1. -1
                  15 November 2015 11: 34
                  Quote: Boris55
                  According to international law, troops can be introduced at the request of the head of state

                  It was Yanukovych voiced the request, although from Rostov-on-Don, nothing happened, in the sense that some troops were introduced
                  1. +2
                    15 November 2015 11: 46
                    Yanukovych had the opportunity to restore constitutional order on his own, but he decided to do it with the blood of our soldiers and sow enmity between us and Ukrainians forever ...
                    Fuck him all over the face and aspen count in the ass on the tonsils!

                    There are many governments in exile from different countries, but it is unlikely that someone at their request will start a war, to begin with, they must return to the camp that they imagine that they will seize the thread and ask for a request from there.
                    In general, the comparison is not correct.
                    1. 0
                      15 November 2015 12: 36
                      Quote: Boris55
                      In general, the comparison is not correct.

                      But after all, most likely voicing this request was most likely not his idea, so his Wishlist had nothing to do with it, a legitimate reason was needed
                      1. -1
                        15 November 2015 17: 38
                        Quote: sa-ag
                        ... voicing this request was most likely not his idea ...

                        With this, I probably agree, it was most likely the idea of ​​the State Department.

                        Quote: sa-ag
                        ... a legitimate excuse was needed.

                        And I agree with that. We needed a "legitimate reason" (see my post above the 2nd paragraph) to drag Russia into the conflict in Ukraine, followed by the involvement of Europe, NATO and ... in general, the third world war.
    2. 0
      15 November 2015 21: 17
      American-Israeli puppet Hollande said that "The terrorist attacks in Paris are an 'ACT' of war," that is, Hollande has already understood what the United States and Israel want from him - a French attack on Syria. "American Senator Luke Rudkovsky said that it was Hillary Clinton created and funded ISIS http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=32356
  5. +3
    15 November 2015 10: 38
    "Syria’s sky is already overloaded with a coalition and Russian military aircraft, in connection with which France can intensify the operation against IS in Iraq and other countries, in particular in Libya."

    Do it there, there’s nothing to get confused under your feet. And here others will restore order, and without you.
  6. avt
    +3
    15 November 2015 10: 40
    France is likely to intensify its participation in the fight against IS, right up to sending expeditionary forces, as it previously did in Africa, experts of the private intelligence and analysis company Stratfor, which is sometimes called the “shadow CIA”, say.
    Well, the beneficiary - the holder of the shares of the terrorist attack appeared! good And that is true - the Turks cannot be rocked for ground operation, and even if they are rocked, the Kurds will begin to be cut and the hell knows how it will end in Turkey itself, to get into that mess - there was enough Faluji in Iraq, and then a whole Foreign Legion. It seems like the French, but in fact there is not and it is not a pity, here they are in the furnace against Assad for the evil of Russians. This is normal, this is American. And there you can cover up other Greeks of different Italians and Germans -
    "In this case, France will need transport aviation support from NATO allies, primarily from the United States," they believe.
  7. +4
    15 November 2015 10: 40
    France must first deal at home
  8. +3
    15 November 2015 10: 42
    They will send the remaining French from France!
  9. +2
    15 November 2015 10: 42
    "In this case, France will need transport aviation support from NATO allies, primarily from the United States," they believe.

    And again, the United States, you can ask Russia, for example, China, because the goal is noble and many countries will support the French in this situation, but again we return to the eternal question.
    Who benefits ?? (transport aircraft, the purchase of weapons and ammunition) Is it really ISIS ??
  10. +4
    15 November 2015 10: 42
    Well, it’s understandable why these terrorist attacks were for Togo and the twins ... People, let their citizens or their allies, only to promote the business of military corporations and ... nothing personal. Bastards.
  11. +3
    15 November 2015 10: 43
    And where did this go, Salry Ebdo?
    Where are their comics?
    After all, there ISIS!
    1. +4
      15 November 2015 10: 50
      These are cowards and they crap .....
      Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical weekly, unveiled a communiqué addressing words of support for the families of the victims of the attacks, BFMTV reported. Charlie Hebdo shares the pain of the victims and sends their full support to their families, ”the report said.
      1. +1
        15 November 2015 11: 23
        Quote: IZUM
        These are cowards and they crap .....
        Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical weekly, unveiled a communiqué addressing words of support for the families of the victims of the attacks, BFMTV reported. Charlie Hebdo shares the pain of the victims and sends their full support to their families, ”the report said.

        Well, hypocrites! Ugh! That is, when the Arabs died, the Russians could smack their libel? Now nizya? Nothing, the bearded soon come to see you again. Wait and shake. The team ... her mother.
    2. 0
      15 November 2015 11: 30
      they rummaged in their "brains" and remembered what blasphemy is.
      1. 0
        15 November 2015 19: 08
        No, the main word here is FEAR.

        Charlie Hebdo team shares fear
    3. 0
      15 November 2015 11: 39
      It is sinful, but I would be deliberately glad if these hypocritical freaks from Charlie Hebdo were shot again or blown up to the "Edren Fen" instead of ordinary people. Such scum should not walk on the ground. In these acts of terrorism there is also their fault, s..and done!
  12. yan 2015
    0
    15 November 2015 10: 47
    I really want to believe that this is not a reason that was created just to send ground troops there. As with the twin towers, when the plane allegedly fell on the Pentagon evaporated without a trace in this building. I am sorry for innocent victims.
  13. MGB
    +5
    15 November 2015 10: 47
    Best of all, they can answer with caricatures. Now let them draw their funny pictures.
  14. +3
    15 November 2015 10: 51
    Like "but we do not care, but we do not care .... We will mow the magic grass!" In Paris, and so the dominance of Muslims, there are areas where the police unnecessarily "do not bother"! My girls were in Paris for Christmas, they returned in horror - are there any French in the city at all? In the center, on the Champs Elysees, there are only Arabs and residents of the Maghreb. France is either now strongly tightening its internal policy in relation to - it is clear to whom. Or Muslims will soon receive real power in the country, and will tighten their internal policy towards infidels ...
  15. +2
    15 November 2015 10: 52
    But they will introduce ground forces. But they won’t fight with igil, together they dig in on the other side of the river. Interestingly, our command this option was calculated in advance? And how will we act? We’ll reach the river soon, but what’s next?
  16. 0
    15 November 2015 10: 53
    The dispatch of the expeditionary force by France will serve as an impetus to the beginning of the partition of Syria, after the fact of sending some countries. those participating in the Syrian events will also try to send their military contingents, in general Germany in 1945 with areas of responsibility of various countries
    1. +2
      15 November 2015 10: 54
      Not yet evening.....
    2. +1
      15 November 2015 10: 55
      In fact, no one called them there; only Russia has permission from the authorities. So I think we will bomb the mixed units of Europeans and Ishilovites or not.
  17. +1
    15 November 2015 10: 55
    Continuous speculation of the "pocket CIA"! The French have always been outrageous! They will make noise and calm down - not for the first time!
    1. -1
      15 November 2015 13: 44
      For example, Karl Martell, Karl the Great, Turenne, Conde, Villars, Luxembourg.
  18. +1
    15 November 2015 10: 55
    Obama persuaded the allies that Russia was the main enemy, and punched his ally Isil. So it turns out Obama is a liar, and France is a loshara.
  19. +3
    15 November 2015 10: 59
    More and more a thought comes to mind, isn't it all on purpose? Not in order to bring troops to Syria and help "moderate" militants under this hype?
  20. +2
    15 November 2015 11: 06
    "up to the dispatch of ground forces" ... Which ones? What for? They will be able to send the LGBT brigade ... And the ISIS people are scared, they will shave off their beards and change their sexual orientation ... That will be "happy" for everyone.
    But seriously, complete nonsense. Nothing for the French to do on Syrian soil.
    And if the French contingent is placed next to the Igilov bases? How do VKS work?
  21. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 06
    Soon, from France only the name will remain, there Arabs and others are many times more than the indigenous ones. There will only be a government to choose from Arabs.
    1. +2
      15 November 2015 11: 25
      Already. France is already an Arab country. There are huge areas where indigenous people simply do not go and do not go. France lost the French ...
      1. 0
        15 November 2015 13: 45
        7,5 million out of 66. In the Russian Federation - 15 million.
  22. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 08
    There are more photographers in the photo than mourners. It’s strange somehow ... fool People died, but for them a selfie and a landmark ... "Id * oty, b **" Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov.
  23. +19
    15 November 2015 11: 09
    Good time of the day Dear!
    Let me express my thoughts in the ear. I ask you to pay attention to 4
    I’m writing, and don’t draw any conclusions soon! After the news about the shares
    in Paris, I suddenly mentally turned to GOD! I won’t tell you 4 experienced a hardened
    indignation, no, I haven’t experienced it. It came to mind the replacement of Russian proverb
    but METHO. Tell me vilely harshly, there are no friends for the taste and color! Sei4as Parisians sing to Marseliez, virazaut solidarity in the whole Roman world
    flowers to the embassy. I’m grudging and I advise you in the historical perspective.
    Well, that’s where it was all when the KILLED MU4ENIKI ascended ANGELS
    to heaven??? In Egypt.
    My people eat a proverb: There is no great idea for the 4 feeling:
    Eeyore I express my indignation to the romance world for its two-sided, vile assiduousness, for its deflection under the coffin-lucifer.
    to whom they are annexed by their existence. You !!! Children are anecdotal !!! All Europe
    it is blessed to you, for there is no such PEOPLE in the world that would so abundantly water
    his BLOOD for the freedom and independence of others.
    And today is truly dramatic Days, I’m talking! I am NOT a Parisian, I
    I do not contribute to France !!!
    I am today ROSSIANIN !!!! I am today LENINGRADETS-PETERSK !!!!!!!!!!
    1. +1
      15 November 2015 11: 15
      Yes, everyone has already forgotten to whom they owe. Now reaping the benefits. And this is the Russian proverb- Do not repay evil for evil. The fair will win.
      1. +7
        15 November 2015 11: 50
        Quote: marinier
        My people eat a proverb: There is no great idea for the 4 feeling:


        Good proverb. And for Europe all the more.

        Quote: marinier
        I am today ROSSIANIN !!!! I am today LENINGRADETS-PETERSK !!!!!!!!!!


        Well what can I say ... Welcome, if so.
    2. +3
      15 November 2015 12: 57
      Hurray! I knew that your ancestors were Russians! I assumed it, I guessed it, reading your comments! I suppose that they lived in Russia for a very long time, more than 100 years ago. This is your personal story. Regards.
  24. +4
    15 November 2015 11: 11
    Europeans are always like that. Understanding what comes only after they get the eggs.
    I don’t know how the French are, but I’m definitely not Charlie.
    1. +1
      15 November 2015 11: 18
      There will soon be no "egg-bearers" among the French ...
  25. +2
    15 November 2015 11: 15
    Expeditionary forces can be sent to nearby refugee camps.
    There is no need even for an aircraft carrier with missiles ...
    And they’re not going to get into Syria,
    there we hold the topic.
  26. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 20
    Judging by the fact that some of the French survivors of the terrorist attacks claim that the terrorists shouted "This is for Syria" - it is clear that this was done for a more successful "search" for the "guilty party."
    The passports found (or thrown up) with the destroyed terrorists, who, oddly enough, carried with them to light up more effectively, belong to the citizens of Egypt and Syria.
    Now I wonder what kind of intelligence (or disinformation) the Americans and the British will share with the French? With a high degree of probability, their misinformation "suddenly" will lead to the belonging of the destroyed terrorists to Assad's special services (who else), which will make it possible to declare him a crazy tyrant to the whole world and push the frogs to a ground operation against Assad. This is an option ...
    So it's not a fact that the French will "take revenge" on ISIS ..
    1. +4
      15 November 2015 11: 26
      They won’t get beyond this line, but if they do introduce a ground, I’m very interested in how we act? We must not allow Syria to be divided into two parts.
    2. +2
      15 November 2015 17: 12
      With passports, there is always an interesting story, all terra must be carried with them, and even they are fireproof (passports), in the USA with twins, in Paris ...
      1. +1
        15 November 2015 23: 13
        Sky News Reports:

        "One of the suicide bombers in the Paris attack was a young French man known for links to Islamic extremism," a police source said.

        The same source noted that he was identified by fingerprints.

        Meanwhile, the French television company BFMTV reported that in addition to the Syrian passport, which was found at the site of the deadly attack at a stadium in the northern part of the city, an Egyptian passport was also found next to the remains of one of the attackers.

        Police are now looking for possible terrorist accomplices in Paris, and it is also reported that officers want to track down a suspicious black car with Belgian numbers that was spotted near the scene of the attack: the Bataclan theater. "
        http://kevbakershow.com/wtf-paris-suicide-bombers-the-magic-passports-oops-the-d

        id-it-again / # sthash.4dyrTzuI.I8mYooJr.dpbs this is not the first time this has already happened
  27. +2
    15 November 2015 11: 21
    This is exactly what the mattress expects from the French.
  28. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 21
    Quote: IZUM
    These are cowards and they crap .....
    Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical weekly, unveiled a communiqué addressing words of support for the families of the victims of the attacks, BFMTV reported. Charlie Hebdo shares the pain of the victims and sends their full support to their families, ”the report said.


    And to draw pictures in support? With indignation and fear? Not honored?
  29. +6
    15 November 2015 11: 23
    if you think about the brains of a divan strategist, it turns out that the Americans want to enter the land contingent in Syria to divide the country into the oil-bearing eastern and the rest pro-Russian. They don’t want to shed blood themselves, to send Germany is not comme il faut (it’s too early and hardly the descendants of Bismarck are now fit for something in the military sense) England is also in the same vein - they themselves do not want to die there. France is the most convenient option: there is a foreign legion that has the right to fight beyond the borders of a country that is constantly involved in conflicts and has good fighting experience, moreover, this cannon fodder is mainly from people of the so-called second grade (Slavs and Negroes). In general, if this is so, then the main culprit in the killings of the French will be overseas. I believe that our politicians should play on this.
  30. 0
    15 November 2015 11: 25
    the French are not friends with those
  31. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 31
    What does Madame Marion Ann Perrin Lee Pen think? Now in France will begin the rise of national, patriotic forces. Good if healthy. And performances of nationalist groups of various kinds with diametrically opposed political views are not ruled out. It’s good, at least with the political ones ... It is quite possible that on the patriotic wave there will be performances by the criminal element.
    1. 0
      15 November 2015 17: 16
      Ground operation in Syria by French cannon fodder + mess in Europe = overseas dream ....
  32. +3
    15 November 2015 11: 31
    I’ll add. You don’t have to look at Europe there. There is a halt of obrozanie and, as it seems to me for a very short time, people feel sorry and probably not the last ones. They grieve in Germany, too, but people without any documents go around. All normal hopes for Putin take care of him.
  33. 0
    15 November 2015 11: 32
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Send their foreign legion to Syria? Or will they find new "good terrorists"? Europe and America are so entangled in their games with the Saudis that they are unlikely to develop a new line of behavior. Then you will have to admit that you were wrong.

    On the ground, the Franks gut is thin!
  34. -1
    15 November 2015 11: 32
    Why is there no caricature of the attack from Charlie ???
    And then crap, sorry!
  35. +2
    15 November 2015 11: 33
    I won’t be surprised if tomorrow the states say that the terrorists are Assad’s soldiers, which means he’s guilty and needs to be bombed
    1. +1
      15 November 2015 17: 18
      I won’t be surprised either! They will also say that someone heard for their homeland, for Assad ...
  36. +2
    15 November 2015 11: 34
    Let Erdogan presses France
  37. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 35
    but I’m wondering: will Charlie draw caricatures of terrorist attacks in France? for some reason it seems that no ...
  38. +5
    15 November 2015 11: 46
    The French still do not understand that it’s not necessary to go anywhere, you can fight with the igles already inside France. They came back home.
  39. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 49
    It is necessary to deport all emigrants back to their homeland. From Iran to Syria put air defense s300. And to keep this area together with Iran under control for a long time.
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    2. 0
      15 November 2015 11: 57
      Quote from DiViZ
      It is necessary to deport all emigrants back to their homeland. From Iran to Syria put air defense s300. And to keep this area together with Iran under control for a long time.

      and even more REEEEB and clubs good
  40. +4
    15 November 2015 11: 51
    So where are the local cartoonists from France?
  41. +1
    15 November 2015 11: 52
    France now has nothing to climb, let them start with themselves.
    There is no sense in putting things in order in France
    noted in the attack, attention!
    French citizen, long registered, as a threat to national security!
    What could be the interference in the affairs of other states, even if they change their diapers, maybe the death of fellow citizens will force the law and order forces in the country to work, although they did not respond to the first call
    (a demonstration with the presence of heads of other states on the occasion of Charlie, as a method of combating terrorism, is not defended).
  42. 0
    15 November 2015 11: 56
    France has a number of opportunities for retaliation

    France has discredited itself. We understand how the terrorists will behave, they do not. What should have happened to the French special services to be blinded at once? The guys relaxed, to be honest. But the fish rots from the head. This was enough for Sarkozy to cover the women when he was rolling, but this is different. Now the rules are different - they did not understand. If anyone has a finger on the pulse - it is Germany, and of Brita. Although there are more and more questions to Germany that they themselves had to ask. Their "partners" destroyed the campaign. Partners ... their campaign is simply awesome ... and with a primordially Germanic scale. Respect is less and less, almost gone.
  43. +2
    15 November 2015 11: 56
    Ordinary people suffer and die. But see the root. This is a great game and a new move has been made. I hope no one has any doubts that ISIS and Al Qaeda were created and are the irregular army of the United States.
    Obviously, the main task of a series of terrorist attacks in Paris to reverse 
    the course of victories of Russia and the Syrian army. Terrorist attacks serve as a formation
    the foundation and information field supposedly to tighten the fight against terrorism and some more active actions by the United States and the affected
    France in Syria against ISIS, but in reality this is a cover 
    US to support "moderate opposition" more strongly in Syria
    against Russia and the Syrian people and the legal government.
    Also, the issue of introducing a no-fly zone over Syria, as in the Libyan scenario, will soon be raised.
    And all this is done by killing ordinary people, but to achieve their goals it is just a consumable for them.
    1. +1
      15 November 2015 12: 01
      Sure sure. Schazz! Where did you read this? No one is able to introduce a no-fly zone over Syria, since it has already been introduced, by the Russian Federation. Moreover, the electronic warfare systems have not yet worked for the entire Ivanovo))) When the enemy aircraft work, if the navigation systems fail, they will immediately turn around until the visual landmarks are lost, otherwise you'll have to land lol
    2. 0
      15 November 2015 17: 20
      Absolutely with everything you said, I agree!
  44. +8
    15 November 2015 12: 05
    Although I did not notice that the French condolences to the dead Russians, there were 224 of them, including 27 children !!
  45. +3
    15 November 2015 12: 17
    Gentlemen, we are all adults here, and we should admit one fact. The Paris attack clearly and clearly showed that for Europe the world is clearly divided into first-class people and second-class people! And nothing will change puppets will take condolences with mournful mutes, and Syria will burn. So there is no sympathy for ordinary people, there is no pro-American riffraff ...
    1. +3
      15 November 2015 12: 25
      This is LYCEPHEMY AND CINISM, not double standards. Russian and Ukrainian children are not people for Europe. So that I don’t understand when ours are covered with flowers at the embassy. These Frenchmen danced on the bones of the Russians after the fall of our plane. Even the caricatures released. For me, they need American P.R.O.S.T.I.T.T.W.T.C.I!
  46. +4
    15 November 2015 12: 22
    And what can France do in response to this blow? Ah ... but nothing can! Payback for "distance colonialism". The exploitation of poor countries, the transshipment of heavy work on the Chinese, Malaysians, blacks ... all this allowed the French to eat sweetly, sleep a lot and really work little. Well ... to sit in a cozy office, listlessly sort through the papers, not to strain in general.
    And now? We must pursue some kind of decisive policy. Such, real, with perseverance and strength. How? The slightest movement against the line set by a strict master will lead to paralysis and death of this entire cozy economy. Very little is produced on the territory of the country. All factories are scattered around the world. That is, the slightest movement of a finger on the control panel - and "national liberation" movements, nationalizations, just riots break out ... French corporations that bring real, non-paper income will go bankrupt instantly.
    US policy has ceased to be beneficial to France, now France is being destroyed. What to do? Nothing. Nothing can be done.

    "Once the Man went to the Horse and said - The Wolf is our enemy. But we cannot kill him, you cannot hit him, I cannot catch up with him. Let me on your back, you will catch up with the Wolf, and I will kill him. The Horse thought and And so the Man and the Horse caught up with the Wolf and killed him! But the Man did not remove the saddle from the back of the Horse, and did not take the snaffle out of the poor fellow's mouth. The Horse said - let me go, because we achieved our goal!
    What is the purpose? Who achieved it? Brainless brutes don't talk! The man said and hit the horse with a whip. But, brute, but! "
  47. 0
    15 November 2015 12: 35
    Quote: kepmor
    NATO will not climb into Syria now, "go head-on" with us and Iran. Yes, and Europe now has no time for "overseas military campaigns" - it would be "with a mess in his hut" to sort it out first

    I agree. They will not unleash a big war (although the United States would very much like to). And what kind of force can they allocate for this, unless a detachment is allocated from the Foreign Legion.
  48. +1
    15 November 2015 12: 42
    Terrorists are young boys. They could not organize themselves and start the massacre almost simultaneously. Someone developed an operation, someone brought in weapons and ammunition, someone organized transport. This organizer is in the shade. This indicates the complete toothlessness of the special services. I would even say about the complete absence of special services. The French secret services showed their toothlessness even during the attack on cartoonists. That was also a very organized action. The shooters acted at lightning speed and retreated in a car with white doorknobs. And the police blocked some brothers-Khmyr in a similar car with black door handles and shot them all. That is, instead of terrorists, the organizers framed the blasphemers and that was all over. And then there was the mysterious suicide of a police commissioner who knew too much. All this indicates the presence in France of a strong terrorist group. Instead of rattling arms in Syria, the French would settle with terrorism within the country.
    1. 0
      15 November 2015 17: 22
      All this says, intelligence services in the subject and in proportion ...
  49. GDV
    +3
    15 November 2015 12: 43
    I suppose NATO is going to drop troops on the oil-bearing regions of Syria, the chuyka is tearing so that this sacrifice was not just that, I feel like they were going to share Syria so that later they would pull a gas and oil branch from Qatar and the Saudis to Europe.
    God bless all those killed in the Paris attacks, the ordinary people of France, my condolences.
    1. 0
      15 November 2015 17: 23
      You spoke correctly, this is a sacrifice ...
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  51. +1
    15 November 2015 12: 44
    Who hasn't received such an SMS?!
    1. 0
      15 November 2015 13: 11
      Quote: Karavan-150
      Who hasn't received such an SMS?!

      who sends the sms???
      and as I already wrote - if the FSB knows that they have crossed over, it means who knows where and when!!!!
    2. mihasik
      +2
      15 November 2015 13: 17
      Quote: Karavan-150
      Who hasn't received such an SMS?!

      No. Track the number and transfer it to the FSB. Along the way it is designed to incite panic.
    3. 0
      15 November 2015 13: 20
      What the hell? UFSSP is the department of the federal bailiff service. Have we made bailiffs responsible for anti-terrorist measures? In short, it's a mess.
    4. 0
      15 November 2015 14: 00
      Who hasn't received such an SMS?

      It has already happened: those suspected of false mailings have been detained and interrogations are underway.
  52. +1
    15 November 2015 12: 46
    That is, direct NATO intervention in the B. East and N. Africa... Challenging the actions of the Russian Federation, belittling (destructing) the role of the Russian Federation in the fight against IS. Another Gaddafi, another round of confrontation between East and West. But not the European West... The EU must get bogged down in IS up to its ears! France has gone... Who's next? Europeans are like rabbits, squeaking, but they climb into the mouth of the boa constrictor. And if they can’t correctly assess their strength, screw them!
  53. mihasik
    0
    15 November 2015 12: 55
    If it is established that IS is behind the attack on November 13, then France will very likely strengthen its air operation in Syria,” RIA Novosti quotes

    Oh how is it!
    Or maybe not in Syria, but immediately after the Masters of ISIS? Well, what about the USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Türkiye? Weak, and France? Or can you only drive gopniks with knives through the sands with your fucking legions!?
    Or maybe this is a sacrifice to the North Atlantic Alliance? Well, we have to please the “gods” in Washington, don’t we?
    So answer me one question. Who lives in the Stone Age and where did your “high” civilization go? Are your eyes clouded over by American pederasty? Don’t you see anything further than Syria?)
    PS
    VO administrators. Since when did the word S.U.K.A. became obscene? Or do you care about my spelling and the word “parasite” can “ruin everything” in my “great” opus?)))
    Maybe read Dahl's dictionary in your spare time?
    Or is Tolerance above all?
  54. +1
    15 November 2015 13: 02
    Previously, we should have fussed! But now it’s too late! And it’s not about the terrorist attacks, the French will not be able to change anything as long as the staff members are the “sponsors” of all these terrorists, all attempts to destroy them come to naught. Well, okay, let’s say they crush this ISIS, the mattress workers will organize some new organization, for the United States the main thing is that there is always instability in the Middle East or Central Asia! Two blows are dealt, the first to Russia and the second to the economic competitor of the EEC!!!
  55. -1
    15 November 2015 13: 19
    And for me, who benefits from what happened in France? And most importantly, very quickly after the crash of the plane with Russian passengers. Beneficial for Russia. And rightly so. In any case, it is a grin of terrorism and must be destroyed.
    1. mihasik
      0
      15 November 2015 14: 40
      Quote: Prop
      And for me, who benefits from what happened in France? And most importantly, very quickly after the crash of the plane with Russian passengers. Beneficial for Russia. And rightly so. In any case, it is a grin of terrorism and must be destroyed.

      ???? Don't you understand, my dear?
      The US is losing Syria. And in order to grab at least something, they need to gain a foothold in this territory, either with a carcass or a roller. Otherwise, the plan for the free laying of pipelines from BV to the EU will fail, and this is unacceptable for the United States. Russia must be destroyed, no matter what, with cheap oil from the BV. This is the motto of the USA. This is why France is being pushed there, followed by the entire EU.
      Is it wrong for the US to support the Kurds? Look at the map! If Iraqi Kurdistan and Syrian Kurdistan unite, this will be the territory through which pipelines from BV will go through Iraq and Turkey to the EU. Do you think the Turks are just delaying the signing of the Turkish Stream, blaming Russia for delaying the signing?).
  56. 0
    15 November 2015 13: 22
    Stratfor also does not rule out sending an expeditionary force

    This is all just speculation. Impotent people always say that. But they can't do anything. The wrong one got hurt.
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  58. Lus
    0
    15 November 2015 13: 34
    If there is a ground operation by NATO forces, Assad will not be happy. He will probably “accidentally” get into some kind of “local” trouble.
  59. 0
    15 November 2015 13: 46
    May God rest the souls of the innocent victims. But on earth, the “experts” sensed the scent of a sensation and began PR on the bones. Our TV is no exception, yes, thank God we have freedom of speech, but when broadcasting to the whole country, it’s not bad to turn on your brains. Yesterday, on the air of a federal channel, I was surprised to hear a conversation between “experts” on the topic “What was the goal of ISIS in carrying out the terrorist attacks in Paris.” The opinions of the “experts” are divided. Some believed that the goal of the terrorists was revenge, others argued that they had already planned this for a long time. I wanted to tell them. Gentlemen, why are you arguing? Send an SMS to ISIS or go to their website if you really care about their goals right now. I understand, it’s Saturday, the editor hasn’t arrived, someone should have told me that the terrorists’ goals are a matter of importance. The main thing is to try to explain to the people what everyone should do in this dangerous time in order to reduce the threat in our country. But no, conversations are based on my language. I say what I want. They will tell me, what are you talking about, look at the comments of VO, you will read dozens of assumptions about the goals of ISIS, but gentlemen, it’s one thing to express your thoughts among VO supporters, you have thoughts - and that’s good, it’s another thing to broadcast to the whole country on the air of the federal channel.
  60. mihasik
    0
    15 November 2015 13: 56
    [quote=Das Boot]
    Das Booty:
    Bots from Germany rule?) And who stamps the pluses here on VO?)
  61. 0
    15 November 2015 14: 14
    I'M CHARLIE! Therefore, I don’t care about their feelings! They are digging their own grave and it’s not for us “poor” people to sympathize with them in this!!!
  62. 0
    15 November 2015 14: 39
    Come on France, take revenge on the Alahagbars!!! They are already an endangered species, now the main thing is to have time to finish off these degenerates, otherwise there will be a queue.
  63. 0
    15 November 2015 14: 45
    The main thing for France now is not to overdo it! Otherwise, you can do a lot of things under the heat of the moment. You have to wait and weigh everything. Everyone undoubtedly needs to fight, not just Russia.
  64. 0
    15 November 2015 15: 11
    France may intensify operations against ISIS in Iraq and other countries, in particular in Libya.”
    Even if they restore order in Libya, they themselves created a mess there by destroying its statehood...
  65. 0
    15 November 2015 15: 55
    Come to your senses! Why didn’t such a thought come to mind before??? fool
  66. +1
    15 November 2015 15: 57

    Everything was clear for a long time.
  67. +1
    15 November 2015 16: 14
    Will Charlie Hebdo send the latest issues to the families of the victims with a free lifetime subscription?
  68. mvg
    0
    15 November 2015 16: 56
    Quote: Morrrow
    In fact, the French have a bunch of military bases in Africa and the most powerful army in Western Europe.

    Why did it happen? The strongest? What are these bases? UAE 700 people? They really need 50 troops there, and 000 planes/helicopters.. It’s going to be overwhelming. De Gaulle is not a panacea; in terms of combat capabilities it is actually inferior even to Latakia.
    PS: Without the USA, no one will climb, no one will have the courage or strength.. The last time without the explicit participation of the USA (implicit, of course, there was) was the Falklands..
    And politicians in Europe will now think twice before signing up for terrestrial services. They will fight against their own TOUs and Stingers.
  69. 0
    15 November 2015 17: 41
    France has their Foreign Legion. About 5-6 regiments.
    They are just focused on the Middle East-Africa.

    True, they don’t have tanks - the IGlovtsy armored personnel carriers will burn them, of course.
  70. 0
    15 November 2015 18: 14
    [France has a number of options for retaliation, but the response depends on who exactly will be responsible (for the attacks)]

    Yes Yes. "If you do not respond, we will write to SPORTLOTO...".
  71. 0
    15 November 2015 18: 17
    the foreign legion has not warmed up for a long time
  72. 0
    15 November 2015 18: 35
    This will not be the last terrorist attack in Europe, and not the bloodiest, the EU needs its own September 11th, with all the ensuing consequences, everyone knows how the life of the US citizens has changed, right down to the police shooting at citizens (a guy in a wheelchair is standing/sitting in front of his eyes, there are two of him Yankee policemen were shot down with short-guns), arrests on suspicion of sympathizing with terrorists, break-ins into houses without warrants, secret prisons, permitted torture, all citizens “knocking” on the authorities for any reason, etc.
    So, we are waiting for the continuation of the “Marlezon ballet”.
    Give the total chipization of Europeans!
  73. 0
    15 November 2015 19: 22
    Where's the logic?
    ISIS is roaming around their home, killing people, and will we send the military to Syria?
    Why not to Libya, there are no less refugees from there, including ISIS, smeared with honey in Syria?
  74. 0
    15 November 2015 20: 35
    [quote=gammipapa]shall we send the military to Syria?[/Whose passport was it? Syrian, and also Egyptian. Passports are generally terrible, they mock the whole world as they want, so that after a suicide bomber is blown up nearby, I repeat nearby, they find a passport, which is also used to establish their identity, wow, why would a suicide bomber need a passport if they knew that they would die. If the paddling pools themselves are De..f..b! (s), then there is no need to hold others to be like that.
  75. 0
    15 November 2015 21: 52
    Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
    Gentlemen, do not consider it a cynic, but what interests me most is what kind of jokes will Sharmli Ebdo draw on this subject?
    Although I feel that for jokes in my country they will push cuttings into the fifth points. But over the drowned Syrian boy and the Russian side, you can smile.
    In general, God is not a fraer and glory to God.

    I’m not generally bloodthirsty, but my first thought was the same after what happened!
  76. 0
    16 November 2015 15: 13
    So the goal of the terrorist attacks in France is to drag it into a war in the east and even in Syria. They just needed to justify their presence on the territory of the SAR without an invitation from the government. Cleverly. The stuntmen suck