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France suffers from irresponsible EU policy

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France suffers from irresponsible EU policyThat thunder struck among the clear Parisian sky. Did not wait. Moreover, they did not listen to these annoying Russians with theirs, as friends of Washington say, dictator Putin. Again their president was right, and for the umpteenth time. And this morning a simple Frenchman asks himself: why on all TV channels and radio do Russians equate with terrorists and Ebola, and Putin with bloody Pinochet and Husseins? Maybe this is not entirely true? Maybe this is just the opinion of the top of our corrupt government?


And here a neighbor (an avid lover of newspapers and magazines and a Russophobe) will say: are you crazy, Pierre, crazy? It is the Russians who are to blame for the fact that they are killing us at home, that the Russians began to bomb the terrorists there, they sent refugees here, among which there are a lot of terrorists. This is Putin's fault.

Something like this, I think tomorrow all the pro-Western media will argue, because it is convenient and falls into the framework of their propaganda - in the wake of American politics and the propaganda of US friends.

After all, how did they explain the waves of refugees in the EU from the east? Putin is guilty, and his unwillingness to make Assad go (and where and how, on the drum). Not only did Putin help Assad to further evict his fellow citizens to the EU.

They will also come up with the fact that Russia is beating the moderate opposition, thereby eliminating the future for Syria.

All this is no longer reasoning, but propaganda cliches of agitprop in the United States. All this is in the heads of their senators and congressmen + Obama and his confused staff of advisers.

Question: How can one believe in utopia that Assad will disappear, and in Syria on the same day ISIL and the "moderate opposition" will hold democratic elections and elect some comrade like their used puppet in Afghanistan Karzai?

Answer: but leave Asad, and Syria will finally choke on blood and chaos, because An army without an ideological and legitimate commander-in-chief will not fight like it is now.

Question: don't start bombing the Russian targets of ISIS in Syria today, what will happen?

Answer: Already in November, we would see the fall of Damascus and a breakthrough to Tartus of the “moderate opposition” in the person of “An Nusra” or ISIS. Next - the execution, death and evacuation of those who have time.

Question: join the Russians in the US coalition and submit to their plans and orders, what then?

Answer: the chaos in Syria, the fall of Assad and his army is a mass exodus of citizens from the country and the east as a whole.

Question: Does the EU and NATO take at least some measures to record, identify, register "refugees"? Maybe they are sorting out real refugees from the resident?

The answer is no. They even conduct initial registration chaotically. Those who receive the documents are immediately burned or thrown away, because it may immediately become clear that they are not refugees from Syria, but immigrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Turkey and other places that are not so well now, but there is no such thing as in Syria.

Question: what should the EU do? Answer: To create national armies, strengthen the forces of law and order, and agents. To lift sanctions from Russia, reach an agreement with us to suppress the fascists in Ukraine, jointly kill ISIS and "moderate" terrorists. Create mass concentration camps in the EU to sort and identify everyone who arrives in the EU as a “refugee”, and in the meantime concentrate those arriving in temporary camps.

And the main thing is to ask the United States to withdraw the occupation forces from the EU, to create its own counterpart of a military alliance in parallel with NATO and to be friends with Russia and China.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 16 November 2015 14: 52
    +8
    France suffers from irresponsible EU policy

    So France pursue an independent policy what prevents? You are a member of the nuclear club (no one will seriously dare to squeak at the fifth republic), economically - what else is needed in the first world?
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 16 November 2015 14: 53
      +8
      the French suffer from the stupidity of their own leadership ... the French are not to blame for the fact that their government was sold offal ...
      1. Now we are free
        Now we are free 16 November 2015 14: 56
        +6
        And I remembered the text of the song BG:
        -This train is on fire and we have nothing more to reap.
        This train is on fire and we have nowhere else to run.
        This land was ours until we got bogged down in the fight.
        She will die if there is a draw, it is time to return this land to herself.


        Well what can I say, almost a prophecy, France wagon- EU burning train ...
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 16 November 2015 14: 59
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir
          So France pursue an independent policy what prevents?

          None of the owners (Anglosecs, Ameripedes) will no longer allow France to pursue an independent policy, to restore order within itself ("these" have been creating disorder there for so long) and become an independent state! France, like other Eurotolerants, has long and tightly been on their hook! "They" took into account the mistakes with De Gaulle! He did it only thanks to his toughness, independence and the situation at the time, and he was immediately "removed", such as "democratically", as a result of "organized" discontent of the people! Now and further it is not possible! Now for the post of President of France "These" put only the one they need! ("democratic", of course)
          1. Temples
            Temples 16 November 2015 15: 11
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            the French suffer from the stupidity of their own leadership ... the French are not to blame for the fact that their government was sold offal ...

            But what about democracy ???
            The government is the one that expresses the opinion of the majority of the French.
            So, that does not roll your statement that "the French suffer from the stupidity of their own leadership"
            It follows from your words and following democratic principles that the French suffer because of their own stupidity.
            Otherwise, double standards:
            - all good things are French citizens
            - all errors and tragedies are the government
            1. Sterlya
              Sterlya 16 November 2015 16: 30
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              Quote: Temples
              But what about democracy ???
              The government is the one that expresses the opinion of the majority of the French.

              So we still see Freedom of speech in the geyrop. And on the example of the outskirts, we see how the brains of the population are processed, and there it remains only to submit what the main player needs.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 16 November 2015 18: 02
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                Sterlya

                I will use your comment to continue my thought. May the readers forgive me.

                What I said above does not require complex philosophical development. You need to try to take this concept to comprehension and then you will understand the logic of V.V. Putin and Stalin. Because by indirect factors they understand this. But it is difficult to explain through the education system for general masters, it takes time. And these things must be passed on from generation to generation through the transmission of morality.

                To warm up your attention, I will give you another truth.

                You all know what juvenile justice is. All. Do you know why this justice makes the brain?

                Explain.

                Because the state, as an instrument of distorted morality, is used to change the morality embedded in the human subconscious for centuries.

                Remember the cross upside down? Remember the upside down Declaration of Human Rights?

                This is all the sources of world problems and human troubles.
            2. gladcu2
              gladcu2 16 November 2015 17: 51
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              Temples and Baikonur

              Do you want me to give you an answer from where the source of world problems. And in particular from where, how the liberal idea is fueled. Which stands at the head of all the riots of the world. And not only because the roots are much deeper.

              I will try to be brief. And I will give you only the initial step of the idea and way of thinking. Think of the rest yourself. I have already noticed that some readers vaguely suspect this, but I cannot express this idea.

              And this also has a "Russian soul". Since a synonym for "Russian soul" is common sense.

              The beginning is mystical. But this is an outward look.
              Material headed.

              Does everyone know the symbol of Satan? Inverted cross upside down.

              Does everyone know the famous American Declaration of Human Rights? All.

              So the trick is that this declaration is synonymous with an inverted cross. Because the logic of the declaration is not correct. The starting point is not set correctly. The declaration should not be HUMAN RIGHTS, but its DUTIES. Because rights are dictated by duties.

              Putting another morale at the head. By this declaration, the entire morality was passed from generation to generation. What led humanity to regression, to cyclical wars. And the concentration of capital in one hand. And capital is a derivative of duties, responsibilities.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 16 November 2015 18: 11
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                It's simple.

                Capital is a duty. The more money the more responsibilities. The more responsibilities the more rights.

                Not right pyrotechnics, but duties.

                Against logic, no offense.

                :)
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 16 November 2015 16: 50
          +3
          Quote: Now we are free
          And I remembered the text of the song BG:

          And for me the novel by Anatole France "Penguin Island", published in 1908, it ends with the final scene of the death of the penguin (European?) Civilization as a result of large-scale terrorist actions directed against megacities. At the same time, France points out the futility of the attempts of the power structures to organize opposition.
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      3. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 16 November 2015 14: 57
        +4
        It's too late gentlemen to "spawn" .... You yourself handed the "grenade to the monkey"! Russia warned you ..!
      4. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 16 November 2015 14: 59
        +2
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        the French are not to blame for the fact that their government was sold offal ...

        And who is to blame? what
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 16 November 2015 16: 52
          +4
          Quote: Vladimirets
          And who is to blame?

          the one who for this government threw ballots in ballot boxes. The question is, who threw and with whose hands? Eugene, hi !
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 16 November 2015 17: 01
            +1
            Quote: Tersky
            Question- who threw and with whose hands

            They themselves threw, they have the same super-duper democracy. yes Victor, hi
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      6. udincev
        udincev 16 November 2015 15: 10
        +1
        Quote: Sasha 19871987
        the French suffer from the stupidity of their own leadership ... the French are not to blame for the fact that their government was sold offal ...

        This is not the problem of the French, but of Europe. I think we'll be convinced of this. The "stupidity of leadership" is programmed ...
      7. Sterlya
        Sterlya 16 November 2015 16: 25
        +1
        We say stupid Americans, and so on. etc. But the Americans are doing their own thing and they do not care about everyone, including the Europeans. And these Europeans are just like rams, or like us during perestroika, they believe in mattresses. And the main thing for them is their Economic interests, that is, the dollar, the export of the dollar around the world, for them it is more important than the million terrorists die in terrorist attacks in Europe
    2. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 16 November 2015 15: 00
      0
      And France, which is in Africa or is still a member of the EU
    3. marinier
      marinier 16 November 2015 15: 05
      +2
      Permission kop4enogo-lucifer + zazda exit from the arm
      slavery, 4 so does not grab not only France, but also
      to many in Europe.
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 16 November 2015 15: 06
      +8
      Those measures that the author offers have long been proposed at various levels, but the United States clearly holds Europe for Faberge, not only France, but the entire EU suffers from a policy of tolerance and loyalty of mattresses, because all refugees are sent to the EU, and not to the USA, Now it’s too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have fallen off, now the Yankees have cast and abandoned Europe are being blamed for being healthy, that is, for us, but as they say what the EU was fighting for and ran into terrorist attacks in Paris, these are still flowers, there will be berries in front.
      1. mojohed2012
        16 November 2015 15: 12
        +1
        A lot of things are proposed, but if you don't write about this, so to speak, the "boring" topic is closed, then no one will raise this important aspect of the EU colonial policy.
        On the contrary, you need to write more, more colorful and clearer with examples.
    5. Asadullah
      Asadullah 16 November 2015 15: 52
      0
      So France pursue an independent policy what prevents?


      It's late for the doctor to drink Borjomi. Once upon a time, the nationalists and patriotic forces of the country turned their backs on de Gaulle and the liberal pro-American forces took power, which took a course of diluting the nation along the American style. As an apology for the colonial wars, they opened the borders to the countries of Central Africa and the Maghreb. This led to the fact that all of France changed its skin color, and ethnic ghettos appeared in large cities, where a normal person does not enter. Today France cannot be called a country of the white world. Without accusations of racism, I will define the intellectual level of a nation, it is determined very simply by the number of patent applications, issued patents and working patents. The highest rate is in the countries of the white and yellow races. The dilution of the population by immigrants from third world countries is instantly reflected in these statistics. France still retains its old cadres, but every year the ratio of mental activity to the composition of the population falls. This is the same if the athlete enters the competition with a bag of stones. And every year the stones arrive. It is from this that France does not expect anything good, all of its "independence" will be reduced to solving endless internal problems.
    6. vodolaz
      vodolaz 16 November 2015 16: 12
      +1
      I just saw on the news that the European Commission said: they say do not confuse the problem with refugees and terrorist attacks. In general, France was shown with what fecal mass comrades from Brussels associate it.
    7. APASUS
      APASUS 16 November 2015 22: 02
      0
      Quote: Vladimir
      So France pursue an independent policy what prevents?

      So France does not have yet another de Gaulle, and "bunny boys" are sitting in the place of the leader, and what do they think they shouldn't write?
  2. Korney84
    Korney84 16 November 2015 14: 53
    +6
    Do you even understand now what you have done?
    1. wandlitz
      wandlitz 16 November 2015 19: 31
      0
      Even if they understand, they will still pretend that everything they have done before is CORRECT ...
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  4. Teberii
    Teberii 16 November 2015 14: 55
    0
    The irresponsible policy of France itself is the answer to what is happening.
  5. cniza
    cniza 16 November 2015 14: 55
    +3
    They have no idea what to do next and how to solve this problem, everything goes to the point that they will resort but bow to Russia.
  6. izya top
    izya top 16 November 2015 15: 00
    +3
    Putin is to blame
    I will get a second warning, but FOR EUROPE ...
  7. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
    -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє- 16 November 2015 15: 05
    +4
    "Fuckers, b **" Sergey V. Lavrov.
    1. mojohed2012
      16 November 2015 15: 14
      +1
      Lavrov is a man. But Obama says he generally lives with Michelle transgender. Daughters from a surrogate mother.
  8. mojohed2012
    16 November 2015 15: 09
    +2
    Recently I read the terades of all-propals from the sites of "Novorossiya". There are many "political scientists" who write as much as point by point, how Russia has already lost everything, how Putin should leave and obey Barack for his tactless actions.
    For me - tired of all-hand pickers and mergers. Everyone writes about fear and hopelessness, but they don’t want or cannot offer something practical. Here is reading one of the smart economically educated people in. Well, someone would write a plan for Russia to exit the recession, so to speak, in general terms. How to support the ruble, how to live without oil and develop production. They write, but reprints from the opinions of pro-Western comrades.
    Do you give a popular plan for Russia's exit from the crisis in conditions of sanctions and escalation of the military authority?
    1. hotrod
      hotrod 16 November 2015 16: 33
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      Quote: mojohed2012
      Do you give a popular plan for Russia's exit from the crisis in conditions of sanctions and escalation of the military authority?


      Shyly somehow. GIVE A PLAN !!
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  9. Taranchello
    Taranchello 16 November 2015 15: 09
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    Ordinary European with at least a couple of convolutions, and so who understands? where? what for? where from? Another thing is their corrupt power strictly obeying the black exclusive w ... ne, so the rhetoric will not change at all, the Russians will always be to blame
  10. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 16 November 2015 15: 11
    +5
    And the main thing is to ask the United States to withdraw the occupation forces from the EU, to create its own counterpart of a military alliance in parallel with NATO and to be friends with Russia and China.

    I agree completely. But that's not all.
    And then - the eviction of all "come in large numbers" from among the Arabs and Africans for the 1001 km, fencing with thorns and police guards of all those who have already successfully obtained citizenship of the same Arab-Africans (ie concentration camps). And there is no other way. You guys need to remember your colonialist tricks for "enforcing peace" of the controlled population such as hunger, drugs, epidemics, etc. Only this will already be on its territory. And here you can already turn to the experience of Aloizych, in your territory, on the extermination of the Jews. Also, dear guardians, ask the Americans about the Indians (share their experience).
    1. mojohed2012
      16 November 2015 15: 22
      +2
      Of course, you mentioned the Indians to the point, but I think that epidemics "refugees" in Europe are not threatened "from the outside and at the hands of Europeans", tk. Europeans will have to get sick and die out, because more "refugees" will run to the place of the dead.
      There are a lot of videos on YouTube about the conversations of Russian "people's reporters" with "refugees". According to a number of media outlets, there are tens of percent of Syrians, and more than 50% are people of all Eastern ethnic groups, but not from Syria. Those. The EU has let in Arabs from Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt. From Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, even Tajiks and Uzbeks with Kyrgyz are there.
      In other words, they cannot even approximately identify who and where from in the EU, because even Merkel has no money to deport hundreds of thousands. Yes, and start deporting - in bulk they will first take the sticks, then the weapons are more serious.
      The tolerance and "ostentatious" kindness of Europeans will soon change them for the cunning and adaptability of people professing, mostly ISLAM.
      Islam is a great religion, no doubt about it. There are also a lot of "bad people" among Christians, BUT what is happening in France and will soon begin in other places - shows that it is time to filter and identify terrorists or suspicious ones not among refugees, but among already "French" in the 2nd and 3rd generations, immigrants from Arab countries and Africa.
      1. surovts.valery
        surovts.valery 16 November 2015 15: 37
        +3
        Quote: mojohed2012
        then it is time to filter and identify terrorists or suspicious ones not among refugees, but among already "French" in the 2nd and 3rd generations, immigrants from Arab countries and Africa.

        So I am about the same. I have already commented on another topic with a hint of "the deeds of bloody Stalin", allegedly destroyed entire nations. Let the respected tolerant frogs try to carry out anti-terrorist measures, without repression of already "their" "come in large numbers" people. I'm sure it won't work. Or - total cleansing and repression, or - the continuation of the same terrorist attacks. And here is an unplowed field of activity like our human rights defenders and other tolerant figures. But something tells me that they won't be there even close.
  11. russmensch
    russmensch 16 November 2015 15: 15
    +1
    France seems to have run out of tolerance reserves. Who is next?
  12. Wedmak
    Wedmak 16 November 2015 15: 24
    +1
    EU policy? Is there such a thing? Well, in the sense they are developing it themselves? If so, then this is a unique case when a cluster of countries has joined a circle and amicably shoots itself and its neighbor in the foot. And periodically blaming at the beginning of this vahkanaliya a passerby who is watching this action.
  13. mojohed2012
    16 November 2015 15: 25
    +2
    And you noticed that in the USA it’s quiet, that even ISIS threaten the states, but it’s quiet there.
    Because ISIS, al-Qaeda, An-nusra, and the founders of the Taliban, etc. - CIA project.
    In the United States, terrorist attacks occur only if it is necessary for political or economic purposes and not by terrorists, but by agents ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 16 November 2015 15: 33
      +8
      And you noticed that in the USA it’s quiet, that even ISIS threaten the states, but it’s quiet there.

      It’s quiet, because for appearing on the street even with a mock-up of a gun you’ll just be shot. And if you will be two or three, then special forces will be called and smeared from M-4. Each clip. That’s all democracy will be.
      Or did you forget how there dispersed the recent rallies?
  14. Das Boot
    Das Boot 16 November 2015 16: 09
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    And the main thing is to ask the United States to withdraw the occupation forces from the EU, to create its own counterpart of a military alliance in parallel with NATO and to be friends with Russia and China.
    The author is incredible and a dreamer. laughing Amused.
  15. Oleg16661
    Oleg16661 16 November 2015 16: 17
    -1
    Now I’ll write scary things. To understand, just turn off the switch in your head that is responsible for morality, humanity, kindness, etc. etc.
    After the terrorist attack in Paris, I had the idea that this could be a warning (or revenge, which is unlikely) to the West from Russia.
    I will explain why. The actions of our VKS in Syria cause severe heartburn in the West, the UAE and Qatar. Constant warnings sound - falling planes, terrorist attacks in Russia, etc. Warnings do not apply, followed by a terrorist attack with a Boeing over Sinai. The performers, of course, are from the IG, but who their owners are well known. After that, the West almost immediately announces that it was a terrorist attack (this time at least without a false start, as with the beginning of the bombing of the air forces in Syria).
    This is followed by a terrorist attack in Paris. Not in Portugal or Norway, but in France, one of the most influential EU states and, moreover, a NATO member. Directly in the capital, and the terrorists only a little missed the head of state! The terrorists' cries of "this is for Syria" are also interesting.
    Events in Paris take place before the G20 summit, where the main topic would be a terrorist attack with a Russian Boeing, instructive speeches "we warned you," and so on. Now the main topic is the security of the EU and NATO countries. And then you want to, you don't want to, but you have to do something with IS, otherwise your fellow citizens will not understand.
    Again, I repeat, if we discard all moral principles, then this is quite possible. And for this they came up with the concept of geopolitics. Spit on the lives of individuals, if only the rest was good.
    I’m not saying that it was all that way, but, you see, it’s a very possible option.
  16. theodore rasp
    theodore rasp 16 November 2015 16: 35
    +1
    I have never noticed excessive emotionality behind myself, but now I am ready for three million "minuses". I am not in the least sorry for ANY DEATED FRANCE ADULTS. Let me explain. Unlike the United States, where the president is appointed by a narrow circle of limited people, in France the president is elected by a majority of citizens. Who made them choose this amoeba ?! Now get it and sign it! Remember, every Frenchman, tomorrow you can be next! And Germany is still in front.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 16 November 2015 16: 59
      0
      Quote: Theodore Rasp
      I don’t feel a bit sorry for ANY DIED PERFORMANCE OF A FRANCE CITIZEN. I explain. Unlike the United States, where a narrow circle of limited people appoints the president, in France the president is elected by a majority of citizens. Who made them choose this

      so-so ... Based on the logic, therefore,
      Quote: Theodore Rasp
      NOT ONE DIED AGE
      in Volgograd, Domodedovo, and in advance of possible victims of upcoming bombings we also do not regret it? Interesting you, my friend, the geo-referencing of terrorism.
      Quote: Theodore Rasp
      now ready for three million "minuses"

      yes to hell with them, minuses, get. You would have a lobotomy ...
      1. theodore rasp
        theodore rasp 16 November 2015 17: 20
        +3
        You have very tolerantly compared soft to salty and quiet to hot. The events you listed were not related to government interference in the internal affairs of the SOVEREIGN STATES and to the involvement of the army of thousands of parasites to the detriment of the interests of the indigenous population.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 16 November 2015 18: 00
          0
          Quote: Theodore Rasp
          state intervention in the internal affairs of the SOVEREIGN STATES and with the involvement of the army of thousands of parasites to the detriment of the interests of the indigenous population.

          just explain yourself, dear. Your designs don't explain anything. We, too, were declared jihad, and, for example, I got the root cause of it - some kind of interference by someone's army somewhere, or they crushed my leg in the subway. The wisest thing, of course, is poking around now in the reasons of dudes and dudes with martyrs' belts. It is only important - before or after - on the DNA fragments. Will it explode somewhere on Oktyabrskaya (God forbid) - you will also hang snot with a fringe about the "hand of the State Department" and the impotence of the special services? About the latter: I hope, nevertheless, it was not the idiots who were drooling over your strawberries.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 16 November 2015 20: 05
      0
      Feoder Rasp

      Do you think the French were given a choice?

      What is the difference which party to choose? Liberals, conservatives or democrats. Morality and principles in these parties are the same. The difference is not in the little things that matter. For example, tax policy. Transfusion of money from one pocket to another. Which basically does not change anything. And it leads to decline.

      No sense, no common sense.
  17. roskot
    roskot 16 November 2015 17: 00
    +1
    Hope nourish the young man. Ask the States to withdraw troops from Europe, create concentration camps. To be friends with Russia. Change governments.
    And the whole of Europe to become part of Russia. This is utopia, if not complete nonsense.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 16 November 2015 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: roskot
      And the whole of Europe to become part of Russia. This is utopia, if not complete nonsense.

      yeah, if you don’t name it in a way that moderators don’t like ...
  18. atamankko
    atamankko 16 November 2015 17: 30
    0
    France suffers because of its helpless, vile policy.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 16 November 2015 18: 12
      0
      Quote: atamankko
      France suffers because of its helpless, vile policy.

      France has no politics. She doesn’t need her. The most interesting thing is 4mo, as the current vegetable is quite suitable for everyone. Rzhach if it will run and even gain a certain percentage in the elections) The French have sucks for two hundred years, after the Vienna Congress, supporting its image on the conscience of Armenia, Britain and Prussia.
      Oops ... IMHO.
  19. afrikanez
    afrikanez 16 November 2015 18: 00
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    Yes, if the EU does what is written in the article, the Americans will simply drown in snot. They immediately come kirdyk. Who will do this in the EU? Their rulers nevermind the people, the main thing is money and power!
  20. Riv
    Riv 16 November 2015 18: 03
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    This is not only a French problem. The EU is now run by bureaucrats. A bureaucrat is responsible for his actions only within the framework of his work instructions. "Am I supposed to develop a set of measures for registration and filtration of refugees? No. Well, then my ass is clean." - that's all. There are no individuals who could take responsibility for themselves and give tasks to others. Fuhrer, if you like. Who is Hollande? Merkel? Pale spirochetes. Say the name of the prime minister of Belgium, or Spain. Weak? Me too. And 99 people out of a hundred will also not be able to do this.

    Of course, Putin looks bright against this background. He says - and his government does. The corruption and laziness of Russian officials is at least somewhat offset by this. And the fact is the fact: refugees from Syria do not tumble into Russia, although it is quite possible to sail from Turkey to Crimea even on a barge with a motor. Why? But because they will be tied up on the Crimean coast, kicked, hooked the same barge to the destroyer and towed back to the territorial waters of Turkey.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 16 November 2015 18: 39
      0
      Quote: Riv
      This is not only a French problem.

      Yes Yes. Listen, maybe this will be enough "and the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea ... If nothing happened .." (c)
      Quote: Riv
      The EU is now governed by bureaucrats.


      revelation after revelation ... And who, sorry, is controlled by the Russian Federation?
      Quote: Riv
      Say offhand the name of the Prime Minister of Belgium

      What for? Offhand, name the surname of the governor of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug or the Kirov region.
      Quote: Riv
      refugees from Syria are not falling into Russia, although it is quite possible to sail from Turkey to Crimea even on a barge with a motor. Why?

      wacky question. However, like the whole comment.
  21. gladcu2
    gladcu2 16 November 2015 19: 05
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    For those I noticed. On the idea of ​​equal rights and duties.

    I will continue to unload your brains by throwing a thread of thought.

    Where did capitalism come from? From the idea that individual enterprise moves a person to progress.

    But human evolution has always said that collective efforts, in the shortest possible way, lead to the achievement of a goal.

    Again, twisted everything. Again cross upside down.

    Remember the Scenery of Human Rights.

    You have handed over your duties to protect your rights to the state. If the state guaranteed you rights, but not so much for your neighbor. That is for you. This is individualism. The derivative of capitalism.

    You have handed over duties to the state or to someone else to manage your rights. And concentrate them in one hand. And do not take their own rights while fulfilling their duties

    If you and your neighbor have received duties. These responsibilities are easier to do together. This is collectivism. Or socialism.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 16 November 2015 20: 51
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      Quote: gladcu2
      to unload your brains by throwing a thread of thought.

      Where did capitalism come from?


      Fri .. laughing
      don’t worry about our brains, it’s not worth it. Throw yourself something ... Well, there, read something or something ... Or talk with taxi drivers ... or minibus drivers ... On the topic
      Quote: gladcu2
      Where did capitalism come from?
      And it’s better to dazzle them immediately:
      Quote: gladcu2
      You have handed over your duties to protect your rights to the state. If the state guaranteed you rights, but not so much for your neighbor. That is for you.
      Like - I’m going for free, I understand, yes ?? !!!
  22. Kupez4
    Kupez4 16 November 2015 20: 32
    +1
    It seems to me from the realm of fiction. While grief may freshly temporary enlightenment flashes. But when everything settles down, again we will be extreme. And more and more often I recall Vanga’s predictions about Europe.