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Chizhov: the likely introduction of customs duties on Ukrainian goods is not a trade war and not sanctions

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It is possible that in 2016 g of the Russian Federation will introduce customs duties in respect of Ukraine. In this case, we are not talking about sanctions, but about the usual trade regime, which in international law is called the MFN - the most favored regime, reports RIA News Statement by Russia's Permanent Representative to the EU Vladimir Chizhov.


Chizhov: the likely introduction of customs duties on Ukrainian goods is not a trade war and not sanctions


After Kiev signed an association agreement with the EU, Moscow expressed concern about the influx of duty-free European goods through Ukraine to Russia. Dmitry Medvedev noted earlier that the usual trade regime will be introduced after the economic part of the agreement begins to operate. If the parties (Moscow-Kiev-EU) fail to agree on removing the risks for Russia, then this will happen with 1 in January 2016.

According to Chizhov, "while in the EU, they are not particularly worried about the possible introduction of customs duties by the Russian Federation for Ukraine." The results of the tripartite talks did not bring the expected results.

“We proceeded from the need to make a decision on our legitimate concerns in a legally binding form. It is possible to agree on specific technical issues, but in what form? ”Noted Chizhov.

“The status of these agreements - the protocol on consultations - does not suit us. Because it is only a political document, and not legally binding. Our position is open, we have warned in advance that if there is no agreement, and, most likely, alas, it will not, we will introduce what is called the most favored nation regime all over the world. But embargoes, sanctions are the wrong terminology ",
he said.

“With Ukraine, within the framework of the CIS free trade zone agreement, there were preferential relations, and Russia has a MFN regime with the overwhelming majority of countries around the world, including the EU,” he recalled.

“The MFN regime will return them (Ukraine) to the general bar. I think there will be no tragedy, ”Chizhov said.

However, Poroshenko thinks differently. He regards the actions of Moscow as a trade war of the neighbor- “aggressor” against a sovereign state.

“We must be prepared for economic consequences, because Russia resorts not only to the occupation of the sovereign independent state of Ukraine, but also to a trade war against us,” he said after meeting with Cecilia Malmstrom, European Commissioner for Trade.

At the same time, Poroshenko noted that “the share of Russia in the total volume of Ukraine’s foreign trade has significantly decreased - to 16%, along with that, 37% of Ukraine’s foreign trade now falls on the EU member states”.

He also asked Malmström "to support Ukrainian exports to the EU countries," including by "expanding access to the EU market for Ukrainian products." Here, according to Poroshenko, Ukraine "has significant potential."
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 November 2015 09: 24 New
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    It is possible that in 2016 the Russian Federation will introduce customs duties on Ukraine

    А вот меня интересует вопрос - почему это не было сделано после того, как Украина начала войну на Донбассе? Что этому мешало. Наверное то, что мы постоянно шли на уступки по газу, электроэнергии, углю для этой страны, а при этом терпели злобную клевету на свою страну? Что бы и кто бы мне не пытался объяснить это (упирая на "братский" народ), лично я все равно не пойму такие действия.
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 November 2015 09: 31 New
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      These duties are introduced to protect the Russian market, from 01.01.2016, an agreement with ES comes into force. And the fact that you used to chew snot here is right.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 14 November 2015 10: 04 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        А вот меня интересует вопрос - почему это не было сделано после того, как Украина начала войну на Донбассе? Что этому мешало. Наверное то, что мы постоянно шли на уступки по газу, электроэнергии, углю для этой страны, а при этом терпели злобную клевету на свою страну? Что бы и кто бы мне не пытался объяснить это (упирая на "братский" народ), лично я все равно не пойму такие действия.

        Vague doubts torment me - this means that what is transported from / through Ukraine will increase in price by the amount of the duty at least (and this is unlikely - we are not accustomed to half measures - twice!). And will we pay for this, as usual, we?

        Do not get me wrong - I’m in the center of Russia and so now I don’t remember what I’m buying Ukrainian. Only in 25 years I have well studied our hucksters - now the prices for Chinese consumer goods and for our native potatoes will rise under this business. Although, it would seem, one is not connected with the other. And to ask each huckster on what basis he raised prices, there will not be enough people for the corresponding services. And if it’s enough - the liberals will howl - an attack on the free market! ...

        It was not necessary to introduce duties, but to close the border on figs a year and a half ago. And now the head would not hurt. And our hucksters would have no reason to wind up prices due to regular duties ... Otherwise, our hucksters will turn any loot, even the best idea, monetize, drank and ultimately cost .....
        1. Temples
          Temples 14 November 2015 10: 17 New
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          The government block that is responsible for food simply can not cope.
          Russia is a huge country.
          And there is no doubt that we can feed ourselves.

          Simple we need conditions for a decent life and work in the countryside.
          And the domestic food market should be open, including for small producers.

          In the meantime, vacuum cleaners for pumping money out of Russia in the face of global retailers and manufacturers operate on our domestic market and we depend on them.
          After this measure, the logistics will be changed. An example is the fishing power of Belarus.
          Naturally, the costs will fall on the buyer, we understand without prompts.

          Barrage duties without changing the conditions of food production within the country will not save, but will only increase the price of food.
          After all, if there is no alternative, then there is no competition.
          The result will be a dumb price increase.
          1. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 14 November 2015 12: 45 New
            +8
            Not a government bloc, but a government in its entirety is not capable of raising the country's economy. But to rob the most unprotected layer of the population, pensioners, it is capable of this. Why is this incompetent government still not replaced that in Russia the crisis is smart, competent, rooting for the welfare of Russia and its people, and not a handful of corrupt officials and thieves.
        2. your1970
          your1970 14 November 2015 10: 59 New
          +1
          we DO NOT INTRODUCE new duties-we will equate them to the MFN countries (and not the CIS countries, from which the duty is not taken, although it is calculated) and we will simply levy a duty ..
          Absolutely no customs war (customs war is the introduction or raising of duties) ...
          The problem is different - in the country of origin of goods. Now, for example, a lot of palm oil comes to us as originating from the 404 country, the origin of the goods is confirmed by certificates of form ST-1 issued by the Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the country 404 (generally accepted norm for the CIS). If we move from trade regime of the CIS to the trade regime of MFN, then automatically the cost of all products containing palm oil will increase as a minimum by the amount of duties.
          More fun - the FCS fought proving that there were few palm trees in the 404 country - they fought enough, in the rest of the CIS countries there were no palm trees. And cheap oil - will not be, i.e. the price of everything containing palm oil will rise (milk, confectionery, cheeses, etc.).
        3. gladcu2
          gladcu2 14 November 2015 18: 46 New
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          Zoldat_A

          Fees are the protection of your standard of living.

          Your life and your work are worth more for objective reasons. Say the harsh conditions of the north increase the cost of your unit of goods. Or the high cost of educating your children forces your state to charge you a higher tax.

          To balance these possibilities, the state creates border barriers.

          Expensive? Expensive. But you have the opportunity to start production of these goods at home. And make a living.

          It would be worse if after that the state abolishes these duties. Thus creating you uncompetitively capable.

          To do this, there are regional unions of entrepreneurs that monitor market conditions and government policy.

          But the truth is, corruption can turn the whole system of equilibrium.

          Therefore, I always say. Take care of your statehood.
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 14 November 2015 10: 12 New
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        Yes, it doesn’t give a damn about what the gibberish considers, these duties should have been introduced last year, but first it is necessary to ensure the energy security of Crimea and logistics, and there the territory 404 itself will dance on its knees, as there will be no reason for blackmail, and the EU goods from the ruins in FIG are not needed.
        1. Gani
          Gani 14 November 2015 10: 30 New
          +1
          Yes, do not care what the offal considers, these duties had to be introduced last year
          He also asked Malmström "to support Ukrainian exports to the EU countries," including by "expanding access to the EU market for Ukrainian products." Here, according to Poroshenko, Ukraine "has significant potential."

          Yes, he also does not give a damn about everything, but here it’s just bargaining: they promised that Roshen’s sales would grow, but they weren’t very flexible, that’s bargaining, so that not only would they send Poland sweets to the Baltic states, but also further
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 14 November 2015 10: 46 New
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            Quote: Gani
            Yes, he also does not care deeply about everything, but here it’s just bargaining: they promised that Roshen’s sales would grow

            Petruha and worries about his chocolate factory.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 14 November 2015 18: 50 New
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          798074

          Everything has its time.

          Did you have a competitive replacement for imported goods?

          Did not have.

          Now domestic production has appeared. To balance the competitiveness imposed duties now. ALREADY AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT OF INTERNAL PRODUCTION.
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    3. Oman 47
      Oman 47 14 November 2015 10: 05 New
      +6
      Apparently, the strong dependence of the Crimea on the Outskirts, which existed then, partially played its role: electricity, water, food, etc.
      Logistics cannot be quickly rebuilt.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 14 November 2015 18: 56 New
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        Oman47

        Да и не только это. До сегодняшнего времени ещё столько много факторов влияющих на решение, "мама не горюй".

        Scream in full throat about the fact that it was necessary to do this yesterday, as it is like two fingers on the asphalt.

        Well, try to do it. So that their own economy is not closed by a copper basin and social problems do not lead the country to revolutionary riots.
    4. Tor5
      Tor5 14 November 2015 10: 34 New
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      Unfortunately, until we can provide the Crimea with everything we need, not through Ukraine, it will constantly blackmail us and try to humiliate us.
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    6. Bkmz
      Bkmz 14 November 2015 12: 56 New
      +2
      Yes, everything is simple, we are highly interdependent on each other’s products, and to shut off the trade flow means to harm ourselves, too, and we maximally delayed the time in order to minimize damage.
    7. marlin1203
      marlin1203 14 November 2015 13: 35 New
      +2
      Да им уже 2 года открыто говорят, что ассоциация Украины с ЕС и свободный оборот европейских товаров повлечет за собой закрытие торгового пространства с нами во избежание "сквозного" товарного потока из Европы. Все ж просто. Нет, хотят зарабатывать как транзитер по сути на спекуляции дешевым европейским импортом через Украину в РФ и ни с чего иметь гешефт. Желание вполне понятное, но дураков уже нет. Досвидос! No.
    8. Turkir
      Turkir 14 November 2015 14: 41 New
      0
      I join your perplexity. He expressed this point of view, from the very beginning of the events in the Donbas.
      “We must be prepared for economic consequences, because Russia is resorting not only to the occupation of the sovereign independent state of Ukraine, but also to a trade war against us”, He said following a meeting with Cecilia Malmström, European Commissioner for Trade.

      Such statements of Poroshenko and his drinking companions-should not pass them in vain.
    9. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 14 November 2015 15: 17 New
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      А вот меня интересует вопрос - почему это не было сделано после того, как Украина начала войну на Донбассе? Что этому мешало. Наверное то, что мы постоянно шли на уступки по газу, электроэнергии, углю для этой страны, а при этом терпели злобную клевету на свою страну? Что бы и кто бы мне не пытался объяснить это (упирая на "братский" народ), лично я все равно не пойму такие действия.

      Electricity instead of delivered to the Crimea. Crimea, as it should exist, without light?
      Coal, I suspect, from Donbass. And if ours, we do not need money? Well, in all other respects, I would have made a trend towards a deterioration of life in Ukraine, so that it wouldn’t be scattered, but gradually worse, and worse year after year, then people would conquer and admit the mistake.
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  2. parusnik
    parusnik 14 November 2015 09: 25 New
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    “With Ukraine, within the framework of the CIS free trade zone agreement, there were preferential relations, and Russia has a MFN regime with the overwhelming majority of countries around the world, including the EU,” he recalled.
    “The MFN regime will return them (Ukraine) to the general bar. I think there will be no tragedy, ”Chizhov said.
    .. Lord, it’s so impressive that we make excuses ..
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 14 November 2015 09: 29 New
      +7
      I also thought so.
  3. hly
    hly 14 November 2015 09: 28 New
    +8
    I'm also tired of constant concessions, discounts. but they demand and demand from us, and we shouldn’t bring anything to Ukraine .... not my banderlog brothers.
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 14 November 2015 09: 33 New
    +9
    Are we really starting to put a little bit of presumptuous beggars in their place? This makes me happy.
  5. Egoza
    Egoza 14 November 2015 09: 34 New
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    "товары в Европу...большой потенциал..." Уже Европа не принимает украинский шоколад и продукты с орехами. Петя забеспокоился! Вдруг придется России за свой шоколад доплачивать таможенный сбор из своего кармана!"Караул! Грабють!"
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 14 November 2015 10: 38 New
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      Quote: Egoza
      "товары в Европу...большой потенциал..." Уже Европа не принимает украинский шоколад и продукты с орехами. Петя забеспокоился! Вдруг придется России за свой шоколад доплачивать таможенный сбор из своего кармана!"Караул! Грабють!"

      Until the Ukrainians themselves understand how they are bred everything will be so.
      Here recently the USA increased the size of quotas for deliveries from Ukraine to the USA by three positions and one of them was spare parts for diesel locomotives! Poroshenko almost jumped out of his pants, another Victory, but who needs spare parts from diesel locomotives from Ukraine in the USA if the country did not supply diesel locomotives.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 14 November 2015 13: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      Already Europe does not accept Ukrainian chocolate and products with nuts.

      Did you accept? Уж чего-чего - а шоколада там и своего предостаточно. И отказываться от торговых марок, которым от 70 до 250 лет ради "Рошена" они там вряд ли, по-моему, соберутся... Например, Риттер поставлял свой шоколад в немецкую армию во время двух мировых войн. И сейчас немцы бросят Риттер Спорт и дружно кинутся за "Рошеном"? Да ладно....

      And the most interesting thing is that this is not only with chocolate. With everything. And if the former Warsaw Pact has already sucked in this economic freedom (it’s only afraid to admit - otherwise, what did they fight for?), Then the former USSR still believes in these fables. Oh well...

      The only thing that would be competitive in Europe was sprats (but they are carcinogens, therefore French anchovies are better) and fat - but it does not undergo heat treatment and is full of cholesterol, so no one in Europe will eat it either. And everything else - French, Italian, German and more. And to hell with these under-states can surprise Europe with something. Even in Bulgarian shops, bell peppers from Turkey, although Turks, it seems, have nothing to do with the European Union ...
  6. 31rus
    31rus 14 November 2015 09: 35 New
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    Меня поражает действия наших чиновников,почему вы господа отчитываетесь, перед Европой,а не своим народом,почему звучит опять возможно,почему эти меры не приняты при первом же "выступлении"против Россиии,ДНР и ЛНР,может хватит ?
    1. your1970
      your1970 14 November 2015 11: 05 New
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      and he just makes excuses to the people - cheap palm oil came only through Ukraine, now it will not be there, therefore ALL products (milk, confectionery, etc.) containing it will RISE by about 20% ...

      а Вы - "Отгородить!!", "Лишить!!",...ситуацию для начала надо оценить для СОБСТВЕННОГО населения....
  7. ZYRYANIN
    ZYRYANIN 14 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +3
    "...Однако Порошенко думает иначе..."

    Пора уже давно перестать обращать внимание на то, что "думает" (ха-ха-ха) Потрошенко! Что может родиться в голове полупьяного беспринципного "политика", за которого, вообще, думают американцы?!..
  8. izya top
    izya top 14 November 2015 09: 41 New
    +3
    but why make excuses then? Our business-wanted introduced, wanted brought request
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    2. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 14 November 2015 10: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: iza top
      but why make excuses then? Our business-wanted introduced, wanted brought request

      ... like the donkey Eeyore: ... and enters, and exits ... into the piglet! wink
  9. ZYRYANIN
    ZYRYANIN 14 November 2015 09: 44 New
    +7
    "...упирая на "братский" народ..."
    Братскому народу при этом , всё-равно, ничего не обламывается - всё растаскивают "революционные бандиты"!!!
    1. sichevik
      sichevik 14 November 2015 10: 44 New
      +1
      Yes, and not really brotherly, this people. So, about 25-30 percent. And the rest of the biomass in fraternity fell to the level of censor. And how all these non-fraternal people will live, I personally do not care.
  10. evil partisan
    evil partisan 14 November 2015 09: 57 New
    +1
    according to Poroshenko, Ukraine "has significant potential."

    That's about the large export-import potential of Ukraine:
    http://www.capital.ua/ru/video/55581-v-onlayn-studii-capitaltv-aleksandr-okhrime
    nko-ekonomist-predsedatel-ukrainskogo-analiticheskogo-tsentra-2
    1. izya top
      izya top 14 November 2015 10: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      That's about the large export-import potential of Ukraine

      Why did you attack Petsyu?
      and here is interesting, to the father of Rymsky he too to row a bucket?
      dad, give me money ... or not, not so dad, pennies ...
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 14 November 2015 11: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: izya top
        you

        belay
        What kind of familiarity ?? You and I did not drink to the Brudershaft and did not herd the sheep !!
        Quote: izya top
        dad, give me money ... or not, not so dad, pennies ...
        Eh ... Papandopulo would be their President. There would be no problems ...
        1. izya top
          izya top 14 November 2015 11: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          What kind of familiarity ?? You and I did not drink to the Brudershaft and did not herd the sheep !!

          engaged in sheep farming, or what? belay
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 14 November 2015 11: 32 New
            +4
            Quote: izya top
            engaged in sheep farming, or what?

            That neither stop ... looked like you mu ... mu ... fuck repeat and changed his mind. Feed them yourself alone hi .
            1. izya top
              izya top 14 November 2015 11: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              Feed them yourself alone

              Why are you going to rudeness? Shame on you?
              1. evil partisan
                evil partisan 14 November 2015 11: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: izya top
                aren't you ashamed?


                Sometimes...repeat recourse
  11. Bosk
    Bosk 14 November 2015 09: 57 New
    +3
    Тут всё очень просто, если ты сказал что "взрослый" и ты всё "могёшь"... то имей в виду что к тебе будут относится как к "взрослому" и "пахать" придётся как взрослый и платить придётся тоже по полной!
  12. am808s
    am808s 14 November 2015 10: 06 New
    +2
    It’s necessary not to make excuses, but to defend ourselves for a long time already! Despite the fact that we have relatives in the Ruin, it will be hard to come for lard.
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 14 November 2015 10: 08 New
    +4
    The results of the trilateral negotiations did not bring the expected results.
    And they won’t bring it. You can not doubt it. Moreover, when they introduce duties, I will begin to accuse the aggressor of feeding the Donbass for free, he doesn’t want to know about the summons. Let the EU ease the fate of Ukraine and open its markets to them. And we'll see who eats the lard.
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 14 November 2015 10: 23 New
      0
      Putin eats fat, who knows! And he is to blame for the psaki decree!
  14. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 14 November 2015 10: 15 New
    +1
    And what will they do on European markets? They won’t be able to tear fat from their hearts in order to sell to Europeans, but they themselves don’t have enough coal to trade ..
  15. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    Vladimir Pozlnyakov 14 November 2015 10: 21 New
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    Quote: Stinger
    The results of the trilateral negotiations did not bring the expected results.
    And they won’t bring it. You can not doubt it. Moreover, when they introduce duties, I will begin to accuse the aggressor of feeding the Donbass for free, he doesn’t want to know about the summons. Let the EU ease the fate of Ukraine and open its markets to them. And we'll see who eats the lard.


    Вальцман попросит Мальмстрем «оказать поддержку украинскому экспорту в страны Евросоюза», в т. ч. путем «расширения доступа на рынок ЕС для украинской продукции». Кроме остатков сала Укропия ничего в Гейропу поставить не может, а Гейропа не знает куда девать гейевропейское сало, затоварились в связи с эмбарго РФ на свинину!Вот теперь пускай отправляют "хэроям сало"!
  16. Neophyte
    Neophyte 14 November 2015 10: 22 New
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    Интересное заявление Петрушки о 37% потенциальных товарах Украины для ЕС?Что кроме сала и чернозема?Руина в дефолте,впереди зима,кредиты под вопросом?Правда,население Руины продолжает верить,что ЕС им поможет и подарит "Це Европу с 01.01.2016г.
  17. isker
    isker 14 November 2015 10: 23 New
    -1
    The problem of the modern suburbs - in its territory, or rather, in its vastness (by European standards): to establish and maintain control over it in one piece is much simpler, but if you were to squeeze out of all the tools - economic, political, and others from the remnants of the mind Svidomo, then they will immediately throw away flippers, arms, legs, etc., which will be immediately swept away by European jackal hyenas ...
    As a result, Russia will receive a bunch of military bases under its nose - and do we need it?
    Вот поэтому "пациент" - под капельницей, для сохранения минимальной видимости легитимного сосуществования.
  18. Lelek
    Lelek 14 November 2015 10: 36 New
    +5
    (However, Poroshenko thinks differently. He sees Moscow’s actions as a trade war of its “aggressor” neighbor against a sovereign state.)

    Во-первых - понятия "Порошенко" и "думает" разнонаправленные, не совместимые.
    Во-вторых - РФ не объявляла бывшей Украине войну, а именно киевские "паханы" объявили Россию своим врагом. Ну, на войне, как на войне - получИте. За всякое действо нужно платить, пока экономически, а дальше - видно будет.
  19. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 14 November 2015 10: 49 New
    +4
    He also asked Malmström "to support Ukrainian exports to the EU countries," including by "expanding access to the EU market for Ukrainian products." Here, according to Poroshenko, Ukraine "has significant potential."


    ЕС требует от России оказать помощь Украине в трудный для неё момент "становления молодой демократии", путём создания для Украины преференций в торговле, так как он (ЕС) не может увеличить квоты на украинские товары в ЕС, так как они не соответствуют экологическим нормативам ЕС. belay
    Moreover, everything that I wrote with a certain degree of sarcasm sounds quite seriously in the speech of Cecilia Malmström, EU Commissioner for Organizing, after meeting with Petruha. yes
    1. your1970
      your1970 14 November 2015 11: 49 New
      +1
      EU environmental regulations. By the way, this is a very tough thing, for example, balts with sprats flew like plywood over Paris (smoking, which leads to an increase in carcinogens by 14 times higher than the European standard)
  20. provincial
    provincial 14 November 2015 11: 07 New
    0
    Где еще на земном шарике" братский народ "и Вам нужна помощь? Мы идем к Вам.
  21. Neophyte
    Neophyte 14 November 2015 11: 23 New
    0
    Rather, the Malstrom current off the coast of Norway will disappear, than the EU will help Ukraine?
  22. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 14 November 2015 13: 29 New
    +5
    Vladimir 1964"ЕС требует от России оказать помощь Украине в трудный для неё момент "становления молодой демократии", путём создания для Украины преференций в торговле, так как он (ЕС) не может увеличить квоты на украинские товары в ЕС, так как они не соответствуют экологическим нормативам ЕС. "
    What kind of young democracy are we talking about? On the formation of the Bandera-fascist regime.
    Who needs preferences7 From a country that is under sanctions, as a state-occupying territory.
    Why can't the EU provide support? because Ukrainian products are recognized as harmful to human health.
    So let's summarize.
    ЕС требует, чтобы государство-агрессор оказывало сателлиту ЕС преференции в сбыте товаров, вредных для здоровья, потому что молодая "демократия" в лице фашиствующего режима развалила экономику страны, используя все свои ресурсы на войну со своими гражданами.
    The claims of mentally insolvent persons are not enforceable, Ms. Malström.
    Before making statements, try to understand what, for whom, and from whom do you require in the light of EU policies.
  23. beer-youk
    beer-youk 14 November 2015 15: 45 New
    +2
    Настолько надоела эта дипломати-экономи бодяга, что хочется порекомендовать - ввоз из 404 закрыть полностью, а то, что успели завезти - под бульдозер. Тогда появится ясность кто за что борется! Прошу пардону, я технарь и привык к конкретике. Или будем продолжать дело Хрущева - кормить "братских" захребетников?!
  24. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 14 November 2015 16: 29 New
    0
    Европеиды просят - не вводите пошлины; американцы просят - спишите 3 млрд. долга. Что такое? Почему? Мы что, зулусы какие-то что ли, которые в угоду белому (черному) господину должны подставлять свой зад? Еще газ дайте бесплатно, Крым типа "верните", заставьте свободных ополченцев прекратить сопротивление фашистам и т.д.
  25. VadimSt
    VadimSt 15 November 2015 01: 30 New
    0
    Stop busting! Things should be called by their proper names - we are not obliged and should not help the enemy survive!