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Paris attacks

French authorities sent reinforcements to 1500 military personnel to provide security in Paris, where on Friday evening, 13 in November, a series of terrorist attacks occurred. About this, reports TASS, reported in the Elysee Palace on the results of an emergency meeting of key ministers headed by President Francois Hollande.
Earlier in his address to the nation, Hollande announced that the authorities of the republic "mobilized all possible forces to neutralize the terrorists and ensure the security of all neighborhoods that could be threatened." “I also demanded that there be military reinforcement, and it is already in the Paris metropolitan area,” the French president said.
According to preliminary estimates, at least 140 people have become victims of a series of terrorist attacks in the French capital, French media reported. Of these, according to French television channels, about 100 people became victims of the shooting at the Bataclan Theater, where terrorists took hostages and shot them. In connection with the incident, President Hollande announced the introduction of a state of emergency in the country and the closure of state borders.
Hollande also decided to refuse to participate in the G20 Summit, which is due to take place on November 16 in Turkey. "France will be represented by Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius and Finance Minister Michel Sapin," the presidential office said.
Responsibility for the terrorist attacks in Paris took the terrorist group "Islamic State". The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activity is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
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    1. +126
      14 November 2015 06: 14
      A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
      Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
      Charlie ebdo are we waiting?
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        1. +78
          14 November 2015 06: 40
          Westerners deservedly "dreams become reality".
          Like movie planes in skyscrapers, so are the 11 / 9 twin towers.
          And now the "13th district" is shining for the French people ...

          This time, I think, there will be no processions of politicians and mantras "I-Ebdo".
          Tolerance dances with tambourines end.
          am
          1. +133
            14 November 2015 07: 03
            Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?
            1. +42
              14 November 2015 07: 27
              Quote: crazyrom
              Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?

              This time, if they draw, I think the French themselves will tear off the BOSKs to them. It’s one thing to mock the Russians, but here it’s a bit wrong.
              1. +20
                14 November 2015 07: 31
                Bataklan PHOTO ENTRANCE
                1. +81
                  14 November 2015 08: 36
                  Quote: vyinemeynen
                  Bataklan PHOTO ENTRANCE

                  To see Paris and die - now takes on a completely different meaning.
                  The IG committed a terrorist attack in Paris not because France is more guilty than others, but because those who were in Paris are easiest to confirm - sometimes it’s not clear who is visiting someone — Muslims from the French or vice versa
                  1. +14
                    14 November 2015 08: 55
                    Do you think Germany will pass? I am sure no.
                    The question is when!
                    1. +15
                      14 November 2015 09: 40
                      Why is it sure that the Germans will be tougher than the French to react.
                      1. +12
                        14 November 2015 10: 06
                        The purpose of the terrorist attacks in Germany will be to remove from the Germans a complex of guilt for the Second World War, and then half a bast shoe to new fascism. Who will bring the enemy of the press.
                        1. +21
                          14 November 2015 10: 09
                          There are no good and bad terrorists.
                          Hard and soft.
                          Ours and strangers.
                          Namely, this logic guided the United States, Britain and other Western countries after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, justifying its inaction and its criticism of Russian actions.
                          It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                          Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.
                        2. -11
                          14 November 2015 10: 21
                          You made a decision for the French + wrote that the attack was useful. Can re-read the written!
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                          Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.
                        3. -10
                          14 November 2015 10: 33
                          Quote: vyinemeynen
                          You made a decision for the French + wrote that the attack was useful. Can re-read the written!
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                          Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.

                          so Vladikavkaz wink
                        4. +8
                          14 November 2015 11: 30
                          atalef
                          Are you worried about something?
                          Or do you have a lack of vitamins for brain activity, as a result of which you poorly grasp the nuances of Russian speech and the meaning of what is written?
                          You look here, your whole gang is already jumping up and down with pleasure that it happened in Paris, on Saturday, and even with the cries of terrorists - "for Syria", meaning that you and your ilk are considered the source of all troubles, Russia, not the West, nurtured another monster, like the brown mutant he had raised.
                        5. -5
                          14 November 2015 11: 51
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          Are you worried about something?

                          Islamic extremism and more than one year
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          Or do you have a lack of vitamins for brain activity, as a result of which you poorly grasp the nuances of Russian speech and the meaning of what is written?

                          There are enough vitamins, and there are no problems with Russian
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          You look here, with your whole gang, you are already bouncing with pleasure that this happened in Paris,

                          belay
                          Of course, I understand that you would prefer the Jews to do it, but there are no miracles, these are Muslims again
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          that you and your kind consider the source of all ills, Russia,

                          Russia belay Is Russia a Muslim country? By you
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          lack of vitamins for brain activity, as a result of which you poorly grasp the nuances of Russian speech and the meaning of what is written

                          I wrote the extremist trend of Islam and its support by moderate Muslims (not all, but many)
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          and not the West, which nourished the next monster, in the likeness of the brown mutant nurtured by it.

                          C'mon, everything is west, but the fed ones have nothing to do with it.
                          It’s not the West that cuts heads, shoots children and rapes women. If you don’t pay, I won’t do it.
                          Having written this, you say only one thing, Muslims are a herd of sheep - managed, without their own opinions, ready to shovel anything and fulfill someone else's will.
                          Remember - the West or the States (as you say) - did it, they themselves reached this point or they were forced by aliens --- does not play a role
                          They are a beast, they teach their children to kill - and all this, not with the Bible or the Torah in your pocket - all with the name of the Koran.
                          Why? You answer, these are your co-religionists.
                        6. 0
                          14 November 2015 12: 19
                          Quote: atalef
                          Is Russia a Muslim country?

                          Imagine Yes! In Crimea and Tatarstan, the main Islamic holidays are weekends. And also Buddhist, Jewish, Pagan and Christian
                        7. +6
                          14 November 2015 12: 30
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: atalef
                          Is Russia a Muslim country?

                          Imagine, yes!

                          Russians will like it wink
                          Quote: Tusv
                          In Crimea and Tatarstan, the main Islamic holidays are weekends.

                          And now what? Does it make Russia a Muslim country?
                          Quote: Tusv
                          And also Buddhist, Jewish, Pagan and Christian

                          No, and remember that. Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish and not pagan.
                          ORTHODOX - was. is and will be.
                          It does not humiliate your religion or anyone else's
                          It is a fact . whether you like it or not.
                        8. 0
                          14 November 2015 12: 46
                          Quote: atalef
                          No, and remember that. Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish and not pagan.
                          ORTHODOX - was. is and will be.
                          It does not humiliate your religion or anyone else's
                          It is a fact . do you like him or not

                          What am I talking about? How is the word Orthodox translated in Greek?
                        9. +2
                          14 November 2015 12: 59
                          Quote: Tusv
                          What am I talking about?

                          you tell me about it

                          Quote: atalef
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: atalef
                          Is Russia a Muslim country?
                          Imagine, yes!

                          Quote: Tusv
                          How is the word Orthodox translated in Greek?

                          And what’s this? Believe me, I know the meaning of the word
                        10. +1
                          14 November 2015 12: 56
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Russians will like it

                          My great-grandfather rose to the rank of colonel in the tsarist army, raising the maximum for a Jew. My grandfather's brothers were the first diplomats of the USSR. Why do you think my mother married a Russian?
                        11. +2
                          14 November 2015 13: 06
                          Quote: Tusv
                          My great-grandfather rose to the rank of colonel in the tsarist army, raising the maximum for a Jew.

                          So all the same there was a maximum?
                          Quote: Tusv
                          My grandfather's brothers were the first diplomats of the USSR. Why do you think my mother married a Russian?

                          I fell in love. probably ?
                        12. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 23
                          Quote: atalef
                          I fell in love. probably ?

                          What do you think? Result - I am Russian with Jewish brains. The funny thing is that dad - Russian explained the math
                        13. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 27
                          Quote: Tusv
                          What do you think? Result - I am Russian with Jewish brains

                          And what are they? Well, Jewish brains?
                          Quote: Tusv
                          The funny thing is that dad - Russian explained the math

                          So is it bad with math?
                          (Well, you understand, Jewish brains (mothers), and Dad explained the math)
                        14. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 48
                          Quote: atalef
                          So is it bad with math?
                          (Well, you understand, Jewish brains (mothers), and Dad explained the math)

                          Imagine that the Equator is clamped with a metal hoop, but someone inserted one meter into the hoop, do you think a cat will crawl through?
                        15. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 57
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: atalef
                          So is it bad with math?
                          (Well, you understand, Jewish brains (mothers), and Dad explained the math)

                          Imagine that the Equator is clamped with a metal hoop, but someone inserted one meter into the hoop, do you think a cat will crawl through?

                          No, I don’t need a refrigerator, I don’t smoke. hi
                        16. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 37
                          Quote: atalef
                          No, I don’t need a refrigerator, I don’t smoke.

                          You do not know how to solve the simplest mathematical problems, so why the hell are you teaching someone?
                        17. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 41
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: atalef
                          No, I don’t need a refrigerator, I don’t smoke.

                          You do not know how to solve the simplest mathematical problems, so why the hell are you teaching someone?

                          well dad didn't teach me math laughing
                        18. +1
                          14 November 2015 15: 04
                          Quote: atalef
                          well dad didn't teach me math

                          Not knowing the laws does not exempt from liability. Well, such a Newton sat, reasoning that power is equal to counteraction and here bam. pumpkin pumpkin - adnak's gravity drinks
                        19. +1
                          14 November 2015 15: 10
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Not knowing the laws does not exempt from liability.

                          of course, especially regarding
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Equator is clamped by a metal hoop

                          Quote: Tusv
                          Well, such a Newton sat, reasoning that power is equal to counteraction and here bam. pumpkin pumpkin - adnak's gravity

                          Fate, but someone killed the same gravity by activating a brick, and yes, with a brain , he did not have time to think of anything.
                        20. 0
                          14 November 2015 20: 23
                          Hollande also decided to refuse to participate in the G20 Summit, which is due to take place on November 16 in Turkey. "France will be represented by Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius and Finance Minister Michel Sapin," the presidential office said.

                          Responsibility for the terrorist attacks in Paris took the terrorist group "Islamic State". The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activity is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
                        21. 0
                          14 November 2015 20: 24
                          Responsibility for the terrorist attacks in Paris took the terrorist group "Islamic State". The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activity is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
                        22. +1
                          14 November 2015 20: 24
                          Responsibility for the terrorist attacks in Paris took the terrorist group "Islamic State". The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activity is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
                        23. 0
                          14 November 2015 20: 25
                          Responsibility for the terrorist attacks in Paris took the terrorist group "Islamic State". The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activity is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
                        24. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 58
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Imagine that the Equator is clamped with a metal hoop, but someone inserted one meter into the hoop, do you think a cat will crawl through?

                          Not only the cat, but also, perhaps, the bear will leak out, if not very large. fellow And what - a hoop for the equator is already being prepared, and someone submitted a rational proposal to increase the length of the hoop by 1 m? what hi
                        25. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 40
                          Quote: andj61
                          Not only the cat, but also, perhaps, the bear will leak out, if not very large.

                          No, the bear won't crawl, But the little bear will crawl
                        26. 0
                          14 November 2015 16: 38
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: andj61
                          Not only the cat, but also, perhaps, the bear will leak out, if not very large.

                          No, the bear won't crawl, But the little bear will crawl

                          I am amazed - absolutely neutral posts, both for me and for you, Vladimir. Minutes why? Offended by a simple math problem? what hi
                        27. +7
                          14 November 2015 17: 02
                          Mlyn, two Jewish mathematicians met and found the "best" thread in the forum to flood ... negative
                        28. +3
                          14 November 2015 13: 00
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

                          Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.
                        29. +5
                          14 November 2015 13: 05
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

                          Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.

                          This is of course understandable, so to speak, for the protocol.
                          But I will say it again, Russia is primarily an Orthodox country. it was so and I hope it will remain so.
                        30. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 32
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia is primarily an Orthodox country. it was so and I hope it will remain so.

                          We converge on the word Orthodox. Everything is on the right. Christians are Orthodox, Muslims are Orthodox. Just read the history of the Russian State - a maximum of a non-Christian was honed in a monastery. Neither to you stones by all paissey, nor the burning of witches, nor what nights of long knives and Bartholomew's nights
                        31. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 48
                          Quote: Tusv
                          We converge on the word Orthodox. Everything is on the right. Christians - Orthodox, Muslims - Orthodox

                          Right-hand movement, right hand (usually stronger than the left)
                          --- And everyone else who? Left-handed and left-handed?
                          I read here
                          . However, by that time the Chukchi themselves considered themselves the main aboriginal tribe, calling themselves louravellanes (by real people)

                          do you understand my train of thought
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Just read the history of the Russian State - maximum non-believer was honed in a monastery

                          Otherworld in the monastery belay ? And what was he doing there?

                          Quote: Tusv
                          Neither to you stones by all paissey, nor the burning of witches, nor what nights of long knives and Bartholomew's nights

                          Yes, it’s difficult with history, read
                          A contemporary Habakkuk wrote about self-immolation, as a response to burning.
                          http://feb-web.ru/feb/avvakum/texts/jag/JAG-230-.HTM
                          speed is glorious in Nizhny: heretics are burning, and the demons, dissolve themselves in love and cry for good faith, did not wait for heretical condemnation, they themselves dared to fire
                          People did not wait for "heretical condemnation".
                          In Siberia, it is certain that the burning began first, and only then self-immolation.
                          http://www.kgau.ru/distance/culture/cont/sibir/glava2S.html
                          Unseen by cruelty acts of the struggle of the authorities with the Old Believers preceded the voluntary self-immolation of the inhabitants of the skete. It is known, for example, that on February 28, 1676, the Old Believers were burned by the now Tobolsk authorities, acting under the framework of all-Russian repressive legislation. And this execution of the schismatics was not the only one, according to the Siberian Chronicle Code, it is known that in 1683 a similar burning of the Old Believers, who did not want to die during the Utyatsk self-immolation, was carried out by the authorities in Tobolsk.

                          So, on February 28, 1676, the first burning in Siberia. And the first self-immolation in Siberia was, do you know when? Only in 1679. In the same 1679, the Mostovskaya "fairy tale" of the Old Believers followed, where they threaten the authorities with self-immolation if they ... arrest any of them in order to force them to renounce their faith. The obvious answer to harassment.
                          Then, the Uyatsk self-immolation along the Siberian Chronicle Code followed after the punitive troops moved on the Uyatsk Old Believers. Moreover, those Old Believers who did not burn out in Utyatskaya Sloboda were arrested, tortured and ... burned. And why, one wonders, for the Old Believers, under such conditions, not to burn themselves?

                          Do you want to throw more examples of pages on 10 and about witches the same.
                        32. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 48
                          Quote: Atalef
                          Yes, it’s difficult with history, read

                          If you know the story, why bother to Israel? I have a day today - while still alive, do you want to talk in a personal on theosophical topics?
                        33. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 56
                          Quote: Tusv
                          If you know the story, why bother to Israel?

                          belay
                          Quote: Tusv
                          me today - while alive, do you want to talk in a personal on theosophical topics?

                          theological?
                          start, I don’t have a day (by the way with you Day !!! drinks ), but I will find the time.
                        34. 0
                          14 November 2015 19: 21
                          Quote: Tusv
                          If you know the story, why bother to Israel?

                          Didn’t you read the case of Vladimir Kunin - Ivanov and Rabinovich, or “Ay Go Tu Haifa!”? I advise, maybe then some questions will disappear. http://royallib.com/book/kunin_vladimir/ivanov_i_rabinovich_ili_ay_gou_tu_hayfa.

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                          Congratulations on your birthday! All the best! hi
                        35. -1
                          15 November 2015 11: 45
                          Tusv (5
                          We have in Russia a certain society of Free Historians, a rare freak show of haters and liars.
                          Just there, shots that are oriented towards inciting ethnic and religious hatred, just like your opponent, are directly stacked in piles.
                        36. 0
                          14 November 2015 16: 47
                          Quote: atalef
                          Right-hand movement, right hand (usually stronger than the left)
                          --- And everyone else who? Left-handed and left-handed?

                          Well, some very smart ones wink - the movement is also left-hand! Are they - Small Britain, India, Japan, South Africa - are all left-handed? feel Or the left? lol By the way, according to the Kazan railway, it seems, before Ryazan, the movement is also left-sided - the Aglitz engineers in the era of terrible tsarism made a mistake! fellow
                          And in Orthodoxy, the first part of the word in the right-left system is not worth considering, it is necessary in the system right-wrong, of course, everyone considers himself right, right, etc.
                        37. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 32
                          Quote: atalef
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

                          Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.

                          This is of course understandable, so to speak, for the protocol.
                          But I will say it again, Russia is primarily an Orthodox country. it was so and I hope it will remain so.

                          Khatabych? Tell me again, and 20 million Russian Muslims will disappear?
                        38. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 36
                          Tell me again, and 20 million Russian Muslims will disappear?

                          Well, what are you saying? In our country, on the contrary, population growth is observed throughout the country.
                        39. +3
                          14 November 2015 13: 50
                          Quote: poquello
                          Khatabych? Tell me again, and 20 million Russian Muslims will disappear?

                          They will not disappear, just as Jews or Buddhists will not disappear.
                          Russia is simply perceived as an Orthodox country. Dot.
                          And don't prove me the opposite.
                          Have you seen a mosque or a synagogue or a pagoda on the territory of the Kremlin?
                          No ? And you will not see.
                        40. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 52
                          Quote: atalef
                          Have you seen a mosque or a synagogue or a pagoda on the territory of the Kremlin?

                          St. Basil’s Cathedral doesn’t resemble anything? Of course there doesn’t smell like a Buddhist pagoda, but even so it’s not European architecture
                        41. +3
                          14 November 2015 15: 02
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: atalef
                          Have you seen a mosque or a synagogue or a pagoda on the territory of the Kremlin?

                          St. Basil’s Cathedral doesn’t resemble anything? Of course there doesn’t smell like a Buddhist pagoda, but even so it’s not European architecture

                          Well, it’s good that the bell tower of Ivan the Great does not cause you to associate with the minaret
                          Quote: Tusv
                          but even so it’s not European architecture

                          Pokrovsky Cathedral was built in 1555-1561 by order of Ivan the Terrible in memory of the capture of Kazan and the victory over the Kazan Khanate, which happened on the day of the Protection of the Holy Virgin - in early October 1552. There are several versions about the creators of the cathedral. According to one version, the architect was the famous Pskov master Postnik Yakovlev, nicknamed Barma. According to another, well-known version, Barma and Postnik are two different architects [2], both involved in the construction; this version is now outdated [3] [4]. According to the third version, the cathedral was built by an unknown West European master (presumably Italian, as before, a significant part of the Moscow Kremlin’s structures), hence the unique style that combines the traditions of both Russian architecture and European Renaissance architecture, but this version has not yet found any clear documentary evidence.

                          I'm not special at all. in these matters, I do not have my own opinion on this matter.
                          Look for someone a Black Square is a masterpiece, for me nothing at all, but it turns out that the struggle of two blacks in a black cave 9 as the latest studies by art critics say)
                          Therefore, that reminds me of the HVB-- the Orthodox Church .-- everything.
                        42. +1
                          14 November 2015 18: 41
                          Russia, with a capital letter, at least out of respect or courtesy.
                          I agree with you, but there is a difference officially and is perceived.
                        43. +2
                          14 November 2015 16: 17
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia is primarily an Orthodox country

                          Let me disagree with you, Alexander. It all depends on the region. Here, in St. Petersburg and the region, of course, the bulk of the population is Orthodox. But come, for example, to Chechnya ... But this is also a region of Russia. Yes, and here I am already beginning to doubt the numerical superiority of the Orthodox. There are so many guests from Asia (by the way, Muslims) that it is easier to meet them on the street than "the face of Slavic nationality."
                          It is not a matter of religion at all. The point is in God: he looked into this soul or not. And whoever calls their God as their name is not the point. It is not the Bible, the Torah, or the Qur'an that kills. Kills the bullet that the person’s hand directs.
                        44. +1
                          14 November 2015 19: 08
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          Allow me to disagree with you, Alexander. It all depends on the region. Here, in St. Petersburg and the region, of course, the bulk of the population is Orthodox

                          Where do you live in the area?
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          But come, for example, to Chechnya ... But this is also a region of Russia

                          Birobidzhan is probably the same region, but it does not make Russia Jewish
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          . Yes, and here I am already beginning to doubt the numerical superiority of the Orthodox

                          In vain, and this is bad, Russia must remain an Orthodox country in its mass
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          It is not a matter of religion at all. Matter in God

                          Leave it to the Christians. Jews and Muslims - one God.
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          . It is not the Bible, the Torah, or the Qur'an that kills. Kills the bullet that the person’s hand directs.

                          No need to deaden religion. Religion (more precisely, its preachers) is that which will calmly send a person to both death and to kill others - while he will be completely confident in his innocence and happy
                          Religion (in our case, Islam - or rather, its imams) is the platform of most terrorists, face the truth.
                        45. +2
                          14 November 2015 19: 28
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia must remain an Orthodox country in its mass

                          I have nothing to object to you. smile
                          Quote: atalef
                          among Christians. Jews and Muslims - one God.

                          Which does not prevent the above from regularly fighting and cutting each other.
                          Quote: atalef
                          Birobidzhan is probably the same region, but it does not make Russia Jewish

                          Russia, as I said a little earlier, is not a religious state
                          Quote: atalef
                          Where do you live in the area?

                          Gatchina
                          Quote: atalef
                          Religion (more precisely, its preachers) is that which will calmly send a person to both death and to kill others - while he will be completely confident in his innocence and happy
                          Religion (in our case, Islam - or rather, its imams) is the platform of most terrorists, face it.

                          I can’t consider myself a specialist in religions, but I have never met calls for the murder of my neighbor neither in Orthodoxy nor in Islam, although I specifically asked the mullah when he was in Kazakhstan.
                          Therefore, I cannot name those who call for war, murder, and terror as an attacker, criminal, and sectarian. In the old days they called such troublemakers - they cause confusion in the souls and among the people.
                        46. +5
                          14 November 2015 13: 09
                          That's right, and therefore the relationship should be built on a respectful relationship according to the principle we build the largest mosque in Europe, ethnic republics build Orthodox churches of the appropriate size. That's how it will be right. In the meantime, all relationships look like "take whatever you want, just do not be offended"
                        47. +1
                          14 November 2015 18: 03
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          Quote: atalef
                          Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

                          Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.


                          No, in Russia 76% profess Orthodoxy, 6% profess Islam, all other religions are divided by 1% and the rest consider themselves atheists. So Russia is an Orthodox country, based on the vast majority of believers.
                        48. -1
                          14 November 2015 18: 46
                          Quote: Saburov
                          So Russia is an Orthodox country, based on the vast majority of believers.

                          Quote: andj61
                          officially speaks of the four traditional religions in Russia - Christianity in the form of Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism.

                          In fact, the Russian Federation is a secular state, as specified in the Constitution. Art. 28 guarantees literally the following: “freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, including the right to profess individually or jointly with others any religion or not to profess any, freely choose, have and disseminate religious and other beliefs and act in accordance with them”, further, the Federal Law from September 26, 1997 No. 125-ФЗ “On Freedom of Conscience and on Religious Associations” confirms “equality before the law regardless of attitude to religion and belief”.
                          Based on the foregoing, I repeat: Russia is NOT a Christian (Orthodox), NOT Islamic, NOT any other religious state. The Russian Federation is a secular multinational and multiconfessional state.
                        49. +2
                          14 November 2015 19: 12
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          In fact, the Russian Federation is a secular state, as specified in the Constitution. Art. 28 guarantees literally the following: “freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, including

                          leave the institute and CC. In the USSR, in general, it seemed like there was no religion, but members of the Politburo celebrated the same Easter.
                          Therefore, officialdom was separated from reality.
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          : Russia is NOT a Christian (Orthodox), NOT Islamic, NOT any other religious state.

                          Russia is not a religious state, but Russia is a country with a predominantly Orthodox population, playing a huge role in the awareness of the country as a country and of Russians as a nation.
                          I’ll tell you more - Orthodoxy, this is one of the basics of Russianness (I would say so).
                          It is not necessary to separate Russia from Orthodoxy, this is not correct and does not reflect the reality
                        50. 0
                          14 November 2015 20: 03
                          Quote: atalef
                          members of the Politburo celebrated the same Easter.

                          Separating officialdom from reality. Every year we celebrate Ivan Kupala, which is a pagan holiday. Findings?
                          Quote: atalef
                          Orthodoxy, this is one of the foundations of Russianness

                          I cannot completely agree with you. The basis of "Russianness" is to feel Russian, to identify with Russia. Orthodoxy, as a religion, being placed at the forefront, will automatically sweep aside non-Orthodox Tajiks, Kazakhs, Jews, Azerbaijanis and many other fighters of the Great Patriotic War, who died RUSSIAN in spirit. In our country, it is NOT ALLOWED to talk about the predominance of religion, since this is a separating idea, separating Russians from, for example, Ingush or Tatars.
                          Dominance ideas are good in mono-national states. Therefore, the ideas of superiority outlined in Mein Kampf fell on fertile soil in Germany.
                          In general, I personally really like the idea of ​​the Bolsheviks about the separation of religion from the state. It made it possible to bypass sharp religious angles and engage in joint construction of a new state, in which the same Tatar or Dagestani did not feel like a second-class man. Of course, the USSR was not perfect either, but everyone had the same problems, regardless of the "fifth column".
                        51. +1
                          14 November 2015 23: 47
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          Separating officialdom from reality. Every year we celebrate Ivan Kupala, which is a pagan holiday. Findings?

                          None. bacchanalia were also remnants of idolatry and local features are present in any Christian movement
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          I cannot completely agree with you. The basis of "Russianness" is to feel Russian, to identify with Russia. Orthodoxy as a religion, being placed at the forefront, will automatically sweep aside non-Orthodox Tajiks, Kazakhs, Jews, Azerbaijanis and many other fighters of the Great Patriotic War

                          What is the general connection between Russianness and the Second World War?
                          Of course, Kazakhs, Tajiks and Jews are not Russians and cannot feel themselves a priori.

                          Quote: pilot8878
                          our country SHOULD NOT talk about the predominance of religion, since this is a disconnecting idea that separates Russians from, for example, Ingush or Tatars.

                          And where does it? I said that Orthodoxy is one of the pillars of Russianness, there are others as well.
                          I’m not talking about religion, I’m talking about the feeling of Russians as Russians and it is impossible to separate Russians from Orthodoxy.
                        52. +1
                          14 November 2015 20: 31
                          Quote: atalef
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          In fact, the Russian Federation is a secular state

                          Russia is not a religious state, but Russia is a country with a predominantly Orthodox population, playing a huge role in the awareness of the country as a country and of Russians as a nation.
                          I’ll tell you more - Orthodoxy, this is one of the basics of Russianness (I would say so).
                          It is not necessary to separate Russia from Orthodoxy, this is not correct and does not reflect the reality

                          so to separate other religions from Russia is also not right, but in part you are right
                        53. +1
                          14 November 2015 20: 47
                          Quote: poquello
                          so to separate other religions from Russia is also not right, but in part you are right

                          By the way, Carey Hiroyuki Tagawa converted to Orthodoxy under the name Panteleimon and, it seems, filed a request for the adoption of Russian citizenship.
                        54. 0
                          14 November 2015 21: 30
                          Quote: pilot8878
                          Quote: poquello
                          so to separate other religions from Russia is also not right, but in part you are right

                          By the way, Carey Hiroyuki Tagawa converted to Orthodoxy under the name Panteleimon and, it seems, filed a request for the adoption of Russian citizenship.

                          Yes, also for permanent residence we are going to
                        55. 0
                          14 November 2015 23: 47
                          I myself am an atheist and I know the Constitution very well ... but I gave you an example of the number of citizens of the Russian Federation professing Orthodoxy ... and it was from this point of view that I showed you that Russia is not a multiconfessional country, namely Orthodox ... and there’s no talk about the structure of the state went on.
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                        57. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 16
                          Quote: Russiamoya
                          but it wouldn’t. 2 official religions - Orthodoxy and Islam (in all official sources).

                          Can I have a source?
                        58. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 00
                          Quote: atalef
                          Quote: Russiamoya
                          but it wouldn’t. 2 official religions - Orthodoxy and Islam (in all official sources).

                          Can I have a source?

                          In fact, it is quite officially spoken about the four traditional religions in Russia - Christianity in the form of Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism.
                        59. +1
                          14 November 2015 14: 09
                          Quote: andj61
                          Quote: atalef
                          Quote: Russiamoya
                          but it wouldn’t. 2 official religions - Orthodoxy and Islam (in all official sources).

                          Can I have a source?

                          In fact, it is quite officially spoken about the four traditional religions in Russia - Christianity in the form of Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism.

                          otozh hi
                        60. 0
                          14 November 2015 18: 20
                          modern encyclopedias, avantha (I mean official sources, and allowed by the Ministry of Culture).
                        61. 0
                          14 November 2015 18: 31
                          atalef, have you read my comment? went to her library - this is the exact source: atlas of the world. Moscow. from the machaon 2009. p. 44.
                        62. +5
                          14 November 2015 13: 15
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: atalef
                          Is Russia a Muslim country?
                          Imagine, yes!


                          Wow ... this discovery ... and I, a sinner, all my life believed that we have a multinational structure and religion is separated from the state ... because so many of them get along.

                          Sorry, I live in another Russia?
                        63. -2
                          14 November 2015 19: 14
                          Quote: Banshee
                          Wow ... this discovery ... and I, a sinner, all my life believed that we have a multinational structure and religion is separated from the state ... because so many of them get along.

                          Sorry, I live in another Russia?

                          Hello Roman !!
                          This is of course understandable and tolerant, but we will be honest, it is not possible to separate Russia and Orthodoxy.
                        64. 0
                          14 November 2015 19: 25
                          Quote: atalef
                          This is of course understandable and tolerant, but we will be honest, it is not possible to separate Russia and Orthodoxy.

                          Come on, Alexander: many of us are as Orthodox as you are Jews - the only difference is in "cowards and a cross." bully We, of course, have a cross - so that there is no misunderstanding. fellow
                          That is, religion for very, very many is simply a certain tradition, nothing more. But there really are very few churchy people. Friends and good acquaintances from my environment — hundreds of people, one and a half or two people, just two really churchy families who regularly attend church, receive communion, etc. Yes
                          And Russia, rather, is not an Orthodox, but an atheistic country, just like the heiress of the USSR. winked And the country's leadership - also a tribute to tradition - goes to church, judging by the picture, much more often than ordinary citizens. Especially touching is the presence of overt Jews and Muslims and Buddhists in the service! laughing
                        65. +1
                          14 November 2015 20: 02
                          atalef (8)
                          Well .. deleting the comment, as an attempt to impose one’s opinion, is not the most neat technique, but God is with you, I forgive your weakness.

                          Now let's move on to the most blatant lies that you wrote, as if my opinion was alleged.

                          A) "Come on, everything is west, and it has nothing to do with the fed.
                          It is not the West that cuts heads, shoots children and rapes women. How much you pay me, I will not do this. "- You can really not cut your heads, but REALLY contribute to interethnic strife than YOU, right here and now, are doing.
                          With regard to the participation of training, arming gangs, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and now, ISIS, the West, this fact is undeniable.
                          The beast was fed like that at one time, they fed in Germany 30 years of the last century.

                          B) "Having written this, you state only one thing, Muslims are a herd of sheep - controlled, not having their own opinion, ready to grab anything and do someone else's will.
                          Remember - the West or the States (as you say) - they did it, they themselves reached it or they were forced by aliens --- it does not matter "" - Another lie, I wrote this- "Quote: vladkavkaz
                          The West, which has nurtured another monster, similar to the brown mutant that he himself raised. "- Having a minimal education, he understands that the brown Germany of Hitler was fed by the Anglo-Saxons, directly contributing to the restoration of the military-industrial complex and the Reichswehr, the Wehrmacht, in order to incite the Munich agreement on the USSR the event that unleashed the Second World War.
                          Thus, having written what I wrote, only a very gifted person will see in the written, at least something that resembles the FALSE you wrote, supposedly on my behalf.
                          C) "They are beasts, they teach their children to kill - and all this, not with the Bible or the Torah in their pocket - all this under the name of the Koran." - the leaders of ISIS and their gang, by no means all of Islam, do not lie and distort ...
                          If there are photos of your kids on the Web with "wishes on the shells", who is blaming whom and what?
                          Understand yourself before blaming others.

                          D) "Why? You answer, these are your fellow believers." - I will answer, another LIE in your execution.
                          It is not for me to write something that in no way applies, neither to my nationality, nor even to my religion.

                          At the expense of my fellow citizens who have a Muslim religion, there are many of them in our country, which does not bother me in any way to live, work and communicate with them.
                          Foolish, useless, idlers and ignoramuses are found in every nation, therefore your statement that Muslims, "They are beasts, they teach their children to kill," is an attempt to insult a large group of the population of Russia who belong to Islam.

                          As for my people, the Russians, we are strong in that we have the nobility, accepting Gentiles to our country, making them friends, unlike you, making everyone around and enemies.
                          Compare the territory of Russia and the number of peoples in it having different religions, a comparison with you is deadly for you, clearly and absolutely, not in your favor.

                          Why do you need such a provocative activity on this site?
                        66. His
                          +2
                          14 November 2015 14: 28
                          Atalef you are our beloved. Something became similar to Satanovsky.
                        67. +4
                          14 November 2015 10: 47
                          vyinemeynen
                          And you therefore cannot read and understand what is written?
                          Are you Charlie Ebdo?
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                        69. 0
                          14 November 2015 11: 31
                          vyinemeynen
                          Once again the question is, are you Charlie Eudo?
                          I begin to strongly doubt your ability to think.
                        70. -8
                          14 November 2015 11: 52
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          vyinemeynen
                          Once again the question is, are you Charlie Eudo?
                          I begin to strongly doubt your ability to think.

                          Well, cut off his head.
                        71. +2
                          14 November 2015 12: 15
                          atalef (8
                          Make it easier, close your fountain of evil speaking, you are unpleasant and not particularly smart.
                        72. -3
                          14 November 2015 12: 32
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          atalef (8
                          Make it easier, close your fountain of evil speaking, you are unpleasant and not particularly smart.

                          Well, no arguing against the truth. yeahhhhh?
                        73. 0
                          14 November 2015 12: 34
                          atalef (
                          For you, there is no truth. There is a lie, but with the truth ... you have always had great problems, starting with Sodom and Gomorrah.
                        74. -1
                          14 November 2015 12: 43
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          atalef (
                          For you, there is no truth. There is a lie, but with the truth ... you have always had great problems, starting with Sodom and Gomorrah

                          And for this we all need to cut off our heads?
                        75. +1
                          14 November 2015 20: 53
                          atalef (8)
                          Why so clearly try to lie ...
                          A) Removing comments in which there is not a single hint of the need for someone to cut something off there, except for the need to destroy ISIS.
                          B) So clumsy, trying to provoke the community to incite ethnic and religious hatred?
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                        77. +4
                          14 November 2015 12: 33
                          Throw
                          For some reason, this is not at all surprised.
                          See in blood a tendency to provocation ..
                        78. +6
                          14 November 2015 11: 34
                          Quote: vyinemeynen
                          You made a decision for the French + wrote that the attack was useful. Can re-read the written!
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                          Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.


                          No matter how terrible this sounds, any kind of tragedy of this kind is useful. It is like a combat charter that is written in blood. A certain algorithm of actions is being developed to prevent and minimize such tragedies in the future from which, unfortunately, no one is immune today. And the fact that terror will be intensified I think no one doubts.
                        79. +8
                          14 November 2015 11: 00
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          There are no good and bad terrorists.
                          Hard and soft.

                          First of all, I want to express my condolences to the families and friends of the deceased and a speedy recovery to the wounded.
                          France pays for its adventurous policy, Germany is not safe from this either, also at risk, now security in Europe is illusive.
                          They will probably understand soon what they have done, events may have a progression, for this all conditions have been created in Europe.
                          Greetings from Gaddafi and Hussein from the other world.
                        80. +3
                          14 November 2015 11: 34
                          saturn.mmm
                          Thank you, you have correctly formulated everything.
                          I’ll add, the United States, they’ll have their own gesheft in any case, because ISIS is their product.
                          The Anglo-Saxons will not miss their own, and all their hypocrisy, expressed now as sympathy, is clearly visible to everyone who has the ability to understand the situation.
                        81. -7
                          14 November 2015 11: 54
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          Thank you, you have correctly formulated everything.
                          I’ll add, the United States, they’ll have their own gesheft in any case, because ISIS is their product.

                          Speaking - ISIS. you turn it into something inanimate.
                          Answer me - who is in ISIS? Who is fighting there? Why do your neighbors go there (in the city)? Under the banner of which religion are they fighting? What language do they speak? From which countries?
                        82. +9
                          14 November 2015 12: 14
                          atalef
                          I would have walked past an empty meaningful post, but caught my eye in the dirt towards my city and neighbors.
                          What is ISIS in Israel do not know? Even helping ISIS, Israel does not know what it is?
                          Lying when to stop?
                          The Israeli Air Force, insolently bombing the positions of GOVERNMENTAL forces, but nowhere, didn’t seek to defeat ISIS, is it because this damn invention, together with the USA?
                          The leaders of ISIS, it’s not sad for you, everyone is grown up in special nurseries in the USA, the beast was fattened there, lured and released, in your interests.
                          So you shouldn’t pour crocodile tears here and try to appropriate your dirty affairs to those who are guilty of this.
                          "Has Russia currently distanced itself from the fight against ISIS?"
                          - We are engaged in our own security, our country has done much more to fight ISIS than the United States, supplying military equipment to those governments (Syria, Iran, Iraq) that are fighting them. Russia is not at all obligated and most likely will not knock on the coalition assembled by the United States and existing for advertising and political purposes for the President of America. The states are fighting with methods that are useless and cannot stop any terrorists. "Quote, E. Satanovsky.
                          http://lifenews.ru/mobile/news/169684
                          And this is his interview, the clever will understand what is said.
                          http://russnov.ru/evgenij-satanovskij-terroristicheskaya-ataka-na-parizh/
                        83. -9
                          14 November 2015 12: 20
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          I would have walked past an empty post, but I caught my eye on the dirt in the direction of my city and neighbors.

                          Do not take it personally, but in ISIS there are from your city and possibly neighbors
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          What is ISIS in Israel do not know?

                          They know Muslims are Sunnis
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          even helping ISIS, Israel does not know what it is?

                          ISIS in Israel is recognized as a terrorist organization and Israel does not help them
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          The Israeli Air Force, brazenly bombing the positions of GOVERNMENTAL forces, but nowhere else, did not seek to defeat ISIS

                          Assad rakes, knows why.
                          ISIS is not near Israel and does not shoot at us (for now, anyway) - why should we crawl into your Islamic squabbles?
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          oh, everyone is grown up in special nurseries in the USA, the beast was fed there, nastuskivaetsya and released, in your interests.

                          OK, but who is all this beast? Americans? Islamists Russians fed the same thing in the US?
                          They are united by one thing - they are all Muslims - Sunnis
                        84. -4
                          14 November 2015 12: 37
                          atalef (8
                          An empty comment.
                          Where to learn to lie?
                        85. +2
                          14 November 2015 12: 45
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          An empty comment.
                          Where to learn to lie?

                          What about Muslim Russians in ISIS?
                          Is this a secret just for you? belay
                        86. +8
                          14 November 2015 12: 41
                          "Islamists Russians", as you put it, are actively financed from abroad. During the anti-terrorist wars in the territory of the sowing. The Caucasus, more active, now more howl ... Most of their leaders studied in Saudi Arabia. Some of them have positions in foreign non-profit foundations, mainly British. Continue?
                          And I ask you, henceforth, not to put Igilov's scum on a par with my compatriots Russians, these people no longer have a homeland, a nation, they sold it all and betrayed it.
                          Or there, both in your country and in the US State Department, they are already racking their brains as Russians blame the death of the French?
                        87. 0
                          14 November 2015 12: 49
                          Quote: Observer 33
                          Islamists Russians ", as you put it, are actively financed from abroad. During the anti-terrorist wars in the North Caucasus, it is more active, now more ... Most of their leaders studied in Saudi Arabia. Some have positions in foreign non-profit foundations, mainly British ones. Continue?

                          go on, of course. are they Russians or who? Here come to you, give me the money, will you go to fight? And why are they - yes?
                          Quote: Observer 33
                          And I ask you, henceforth, not to put Igilovsky scum on a par with my compatriots Russians,

                          In a family, it’s not without a freak that you are a Russian in any way does not deprive them (bandits) of citizenship or entry in your passport - place of birth - Russian Federation
                          Quote: Observer 33
                          and, these already have no homeland, nation, they sold it all and betrayed it.

                          There is a homeland and a nation - and things should be called by their proper names
                          And how something outstanding is the way the Motherland and the nation exist, and how not, so neither the homeland nor the nation
                          Quote: Observer 33
                          Or there, both in your country and in the US State Department, they are already racking their brains as Russians blame the death of the French?

                          fool
                        88. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 05
                          Quote: Atalef
                          There is a homeland and a nation - and things should be called by their proper names
                          And how something outstanding is the way the Motherland and the nation exist, and how not, so neither the homeland nor the nation

                          For Russians, there is a concept of the Motherland and it is sacred, and a nation is a concept for the Nazis. Gumilyov described more correctly in "Earth's Biosphere"
                        89. -2
                          14 November 2015 13: 12
                          Quote: Tusv
                          For Russians, there is the concept of Homeland and it is sacred,

                          Here come on without slogans.
                          Of course it’s clear. that I give an example - you will say that this person is not Russian
                          Quote: Tusv
                          and the nation is a concept for the Nazis

                          Nation (from lat. Natio - tribe, people

                          There are two main approaches to understanding a nation: as a political community of citizens of a certain state and as an ethnic community (a form of existence of one or several ethnoses living together) with a single language and self-awareness.

                          What do not you like ?
                          maybe. and the fact that the Nazis in Germany, it is actually -nationalSOCIALISTS?
                        90. 0
                          14 November 2015 20: 04
                          Quote: Observer 33
                          And I ask you, henceforth, not to put Igilov's scum on a par with my compatriots Russians, these people no longer have a homeland, a nation, they sold it all and betrayed it.

                          "According to various estimates, from five to seven thousand immigrants from Russia and other CIS countries are already fighting on the side of ISIS. And we, of course, cannot allow them to later apply the experience gained in Syria today in our home," Putin said. ... So ask him "not to put in a row"request
                        91. -1
                          14 November 2015 13: 20
                          Quote: atalef

                          They are united by one thing - they are all Muslims - Sunnis

                          la la sectarians they
                        92. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 28
                          Quote: poquello
                          Quote: atalef

                          They are united by one thing - they are all Muslims - Sunnis

                          la la sectarians they

                          well = well.
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                        94. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 18
                          Not in the subject, but I want to ask: Is it just me, or is it some kind of general failure?
                        95. +2
                          14 November 2015 13: 50
                          This was a general failure caused by improper multi-citations. Corrected.
                        96. +10
                          14 November 2015 11: 51
                          Quote: saturn.mmm
                          They will probably understand soon what they have done.

                          Less than two months have passed? "do you at least understand what you've done"
                        97. +12
                          14 November 2015 11: 17
                          G20 must be canceled. Or, in Russia, we are safe.
                          And they forgot Vanga’s predictions that they broadcast about the war in Europe and the outcome of the Europeans from Europe.
                          Moreover, it was predicted that after the fall of Syria, the Third World War would begin and Russia would be on the sidelines, but would be drawn into this war. And so it happened. Namely:
                          - Syria fell, but not as a country, but economically "and will fall at the feet of the winner, but the winner will not be the same." Who? Not the one who stirred it up, but the one who will support and restore it (the alliance of Russia, Iran and other peoples).
                          - "Russia will be dragged into the war." Unambiguously involved because it affects our vital interests.
                          - This is the third world in the whole world and not only economic and political between the poles, but also with the radicals.
                          - Everything is clear about Europe - this is the beginning of the outcome.
                          - And as always, Russia will save everyone (this is not a pathos statement) will save the right way and personal example, spirituality, human values, morality, ethics and so on.
                          Now is the time that everyone must make a choice of who is who and if the choice is right, then with us, if not, to the margins of history. Neutrality is canceled, you can not or do not want to make a choice, it will be done for you, period.
                        98. +5
                          14 November 2015 12: 34
                          Well, yes, we have to take the "twenty", in a safe place, on Wrangel Island, or on some kind of ice floe ... Soon all Europeans will be happy at least some hut in the taiga ... if only the head remains on their shoulders ...
                        99. +2
                          14 November 2015 21: 50
                          Quote: Irokez
                          and Wanga’s predictions about the war in Europe and the outcome of the Europeans from Europe. Moreover, it was predicted that after the fall of Syria the Third World War would begin and Russia would be on the sidelines, but would be drawn into this war.

                          It's time to bring down from France!
                        100. 0
                          14 November 2015 22: 46
                          Quote: APASUS
                          It's time

                          that’s it, now storage: PUTIN ENTER THE MILITARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        101. 0
                          14 November 2015 23: 11
                          They have their own legion. Let them work - pretty tough guys.
                        102. +5
                          14 November 2015 11: 25
                          vladkavkaz (8) SU Today, 10:09 AM

                          There are no good and bad terrorists.
                          Hard and soft.
                          Ours and strangers.
                          Namely, this logic guided the United States, Britain and other Western countries after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, justifying its inaction and its criticism of Russian actions.
                          It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                          Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.


                          Until statehood is destroyed (destroyed by the Americans) in the region (Syria, Iraq ...). until the carriers of homosexual democracy disappear from the region, the maximum that we can do is help the Syrians. Terrorism will threaten everyone. It is necessary to isolate the USA from the whole world with which it borders the water area, UNITY and restore normal civilized (not homosexual) relations between other countries.
                        103. +5
                          14 November 2015 12: 24
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          There are no good and bad terrorists. Hard and soft.

                          Or maybe it is not necessary hysteria and brand them as terrorists?
                          AND SOMETHING IT FRENCH A MODERN OPPOSITION?
                          Maybe they just want to leave the post of president of the dictator Hollande? And then they will become the spokesmen for the will of the French people - how moderate opposition in Syria?

                          P.S. Of course, this is just a bitter irony over Western liberal-democratic values.
                          And the French - my condolences.
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                        105. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 02
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          There are no good and bad terrorists.

                          beautiful words
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          Hard and soft.

                          same (+)
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          Ours and strangers.

                          capacitor positive (+) lead
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          Namely, this logic guided the United States, Britain and other Western countries after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, justifying its inaction and its criticism of Russian actions

                          And here do not disturb the sinful with the righteous.
                          Hizbullah is fighting on Assad’s side, how about this? And your statements
                          Quote: vladkavkaz
                          There are no good and bad terrorists.
                          Hard and soft.
                          Ours and strangers.
                        106. +1
                          14 November 2015 21: 21
                          vladkavkaz (8
                          I'm not Charlie now. / S /
                          There is no point in interpreting - Who, Why and How ....

                          I do not share the idea:

                          1. Hulu against Christ and the founder of Islam.
                          2. Propaganda of homosexuality.
                          3. I do not admire the punitive war ukro-junta.
                          4. Protection of the freedom of sin.
                          5. I do not make fun of the victims of terrorist attacks.

                          When the French special forces killed the head of the sovereign state of Gaddafi and put it in the supermarket for all to see, they probably did not think that grief would come to their house.
                        107. +1
                          14 November 2015 14: 49
                          old scripts in a new way
                    2. 0
                      14 November 2015 11: 09
                      Quote: vyinemeynen
                      Do you think Germany will pass? I am sure no.
                      The question is when!

                      Germany, I think it’s over. they have a natural fear of the Germans
                      Next Spain.
                      1. +6
                        14 November 2015 11: 49
                        In Germany, there was recently a terrorist attack, and it surprisingly happened after talks in the German government that it would be nice for the "comrade defenders of democracy" to withdraw their troops from Germany and close the bases. In France, such actions often happen after talks about an independent political course themselves You know from whom. Don't you find it strange that this does not happen either in the United States or in Britain. And they behave somehow calmly? Yes, and Cameron got information about our plane before anyone else. And it doesn't seem strange to you that this action was carried out. on a professional level, is not at all like the single attacks of Palestinians with knives on the armed military?

                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: vyinemeynen
                        Do you think Germany will pass? I am sure no.
                        The question is when!

                        Germany, I think it’s over. they have a natural fear of the Germans
                        Next Spain.
                        1. 0
                          14 November 2015 12: 03
                          Quote: yushch
                          Do not find it strange that this does not happen either in the USA or in Britain.

                          It happens more than once in the USA. not of such scale, of course, well, so their respective services work well.
                          In general, many countries in which this does not happen - Switzerland, N.Zelandia or Vanoutu - can they manage all this?
                          Quote: yushch
                          And Cameron appeared infa about our plane before everyone else.

                          And in order to confirm that it was he who controlled it, he immediately published it? belay
                          Quote: yushch
                          And doesn’t it seem strange to you that this action was carried out on a professional level, is not at all like solitary attacks of Palestinians with knives on the armed military?

                          No, it does not seem.
                          We would like to do the same with us, it’s just that our corresponding services are working as they should.
                          The terror of loners is hard to stop; the terror of organized groups is a clear miscalculation of intelligence.
                        2. +5
                          14 November 2015 12: 21
                          Quote: atalef
                          Quote: yushch
                          Do not find it strange that this does not happen either in the USA or in Britain.

                          It happens more than once in the USA. not of such scale, of course, well, so their respective services work well.
                          In general, many countries in which this does not happen - Switzerland, N.Zelandia or Vanoutu - can they manage all this?
                          Quote: yushch
                          And Cameron appeared infa about our plane before everyone else.

                          And in order to confirm that it was he who controlled it, he immediately published it? belay
                          Quote: yushch
                          And doesn’t it seem strange to you that this action was carried out on a professional level, is not at all like solitary attacks of Palestinians with knives on the armed military?

                          No, it does not seem.
                          We would like to do the same with us, it’s just that our corresponding services are working as they should.
                          The terror of loners is hard to stop; the terror of organized groups is a clear miscalculation of intelligence.


                          That is, Switzerland, N.Zelandiyu and Vanutau you put on the same level with Germany and France the main locomotives of Europe ???
                          Is it a joke about well-functioning services in the USA? Or are you not aware of gang street wars? If you wish, you can do whatever you want under this cover.
                          Cameron did not provide anything, only because intelligent analysts quickly determined from this "evidence" where the ears of this terrorist act were sticking out.
                          And the most interesting thing is that Israel does not strain and behaves calmly for a long time when armed bearded men are on the border with it in Syria. Israel is only straining from the groups that are being helped by Iran and Syria. Those groups that America helps, surprisingly, do not notice Israel, because the command is given to them. And the United States cannot give such a command to Hezbollah and Hamas, other countries give commands to them. The states have been "bombing" IS for a couple of years and everything is fine, only Russia is connected and IS is blowing up our plane.
                          Here, even without a conspiracy theory, it’s clear who is stirring up water. Israel has normal relations only with those neighbors who are more or less sitting on the US suction, and try to refute this reasonably.
                        3. +3
                          14 November 2015 12: 40
                          Quote: yushch
                          That is, Switzerland, N.Zelandiya and Vanutau you put on the same level with Germany and France the main locomotives of Europe?

                          No, I say. that if the country does not have Islamic terror - this does not mean at all that it rules it
                          Quote: yushch
                          Is it a joke about well-functioning services in the USA? Or are you not aware of gang street wars? If you wish, you can do whatever you want under this cover

                          There is no joke, we also have gangs and they are fighting. Do not compare the police and special services.
                          With the monstrously slurred Israeli police, intelligence agencies work quite successfully.
                          Quote: yushch
                          Cameron did not provide anything, only because intelligent analysts quickly determined from this "evidence" where the ears of this terrorist act were sticking out.

                          Or just voiced what Russia knew, but did not want to say. tell me why the reasons are still not voiced?
                          Quote: yushch
                          Well, and the most interesting. Israel does not strain and behaves calmly for a long time when armed bearded men are to the teeth on the border with him in Syria

                          Well, first of all, we always had these bearded men around, so why put things ahead of time. all the time
                          Quote: yushch
                          . Israel only strains from the groups that are helping Iran and Syria.

                          No, all in importance.
                          ISIS so far (except for the commercials) - has not shown itself particularly (except for a couple of rockets from Gaza) - the rush is needed when catching fleas and when you sleep with someone else’s wife
                          Quote: yushch
                          Those groups that America helps surprisingly do not notice Israel, because such a command is given to them

                          do not write nonsense
                          Quote: yushch
                          But Hezbollah and Hamas cannot give such a team to the USA

                          And who can?
                          Quote: yushch
                          Here, even without a conspiracy theory, it’s clear who is stirring up water. Israel has normal relations only with those neighbors who are more or less sitting on the US suction

                          Of course. and what’s wrong with that? And those who are sitting on the suction from Iran are bad.
                        4. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 18
                          Well, you see, you just divide them into good terras and bad ones. For us, a good terrorist is a dead terrorist, for the French I hope now too.
                          I sincerely hope that you wrote the name of my Motherland with a small letter by chance, and not intentionally. Educated people do not go down to such petty moments.
                        5. +1
                          14 November 2015 14: 15
                          Quote: yushch
                          Well, you see, you just divide them into good terra and bad.

                          I don’t share, but you’ll chase after 9 hares, you won’t catch a single one.
                          By significance and danger and share

                          Quote: yushch
                          I sincerely hope that you wrote the name of my Motherland with a small letter by accident, and not intentionally

                          Of course by chance, this is the way, and my homeland

                          Quote: yushch
                          . Educated people do not fall to such petty moments.

                          Education and ability to write correctly. nor always mating things.
                          For example, I’m not able to write competently and a priori. Does this make me unbroken?
                        6. 0
                          14 November 2015 15: 08
                          You explained that by chance this is enough. I never blame opponents for illiteracy, because I sometimes make grammatical and punctuation errors.
                          Regarding education, I meant deliberate spelling, which unfortunately some forum users sin on both sides, so to speak.
                    3. +1
                      14 November 2015 11: 48
                      Wang is already "nawangwala" at one time. Europe will be empty. It is because of the Arabs and chemical weapons.
                      Again, so many "refugees" - this was not only to be expected, it was inevitable. Back in September, I wrote that the old woman will shake Europe thoroughly, and in the literal sense. Someone really needed to organize a crusade against Assad. We slowed down this factor, but the "refugees" have not gone anywhere. And the French undertook to bomb their wells. Turkey and Qatar are of interest here. It's even difficult to say who is the first, but most likely Qatar - these frostbitten on the whole head.
                    4. +2
                      14 November 2015 12: 22
                      Let us not wish others bad. We will think for ourselves. Many years have passed since the last large-scale terrorist attacks in Russia, and we (ordinary citizens) have also relaxed. The plane and its death under Sharm El Sheikh struck us and guarded us, but the terrorist attacks in France should awaken us from routine again and understand that it’s not work, not a salary or short-term income, not prosperity and owning a cool car, but only our own lives, loved ones and our Russian people - that’s the only thing we need to fight for and what to value. Only vigilance and compliance with safety measures will save us from most of the possible incidents. Let's look around and see what they bring to the cellars of our houses, what outsiders do in our entrances, how to behave in crowded places, or maybe it’s better not to go there if you really don’t need to ...
                      1. 0
                        14 November 2015 13: 38
                        Quote: mojohed2012
                        Let us not wish others bad.

                        and who wished ??
                        Quote: mojohed2012
                        Many years have passed since the last large-scale terrorist attacks in Russia, and we

                        Really? Have you forgotten Volgograd?
                        Quote: mojohed2012
                        but only their own lives, those close to us and our Russian people — that’s the only thing we need to fight for and what to value.

                        And for me - honor is more precious than life. Not in the sense that there is no need to fight for it, but this is not an end in itself at all. But only a way to do something worthy in the world. Otherwise we are just animals.
                        Quote: mojohed2012
                        Let's look back and see

                        Who is against it? Vigilance is in our time and is our TOTAL survival.
                  2. +13
                    14 November 2015 10: 07
                    Quote: atalef
                    Paris will be confirmed - sometimes it’s not clear who is visiting someone — Muslims from the French or vice versa

                    Yes, Paris is more like a suburb of Beirut, but I would say that it was not France that faced terrorism, but Europe. It’s just that the French were chosen as the weakest link.
                    The most important thing is that political decisions will be made in the near future and we will see for the sake of making what decisions have undermined Paris, what are Europe pushing for?
                    Slurred explanations in Syria look ridiculous - the goal sucks another!
                    1. +8
                      14 November 2015 10: 18
                      Quote: APASUS
                      and Paris is more like a suburb of Beirut, but I would say that it was not France that faced terrorism, but Europe. It’s just that the French were chosen as the weakest link.

                      So am I about
                      Quote: APASUS
                      The most important thing is that political decisions will be made in the near future and we will see for the sake of making what decisions have undermined Paris, what are Europe pushing for?

                      Europe will do nothing, not the first terrorist attack.
                      Europe will never have the courage to stand up and call a spade a spade - therefore, the result will be zero.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Slurred explanations in Syria look ridiculous - the goal sucks another!

                      Syria? Yes, where does Syria.
                      1. +7
                        14 November 2015 10: 47
                        Quote: atalef
                        Europe will do nothing, not the first terrorist attack. Europe will never have the courage to stand up and call a spade a spade - therefore, the result will be zero.

                        Europe itself will not be able to choose the line (how many of them all need to be persuaded), but they can very quietly sign the next paper invented by the USA in the wake of the attacks. Merkel will support everything like a herd of rams.
                      2. +10
                        14 November 2015 11: 06
                        Interestingly, were there moderate terrorists? Not moderate then they should not have been allowed.
                        1. +4
                          14 November 2015 11: 34
                          Yesterday, 09: 50

                          States in the Western coalition to combat the IG, require the United States to expand the list of moderate Syrian opposition, reports RIA Novosti message The Washington Post.
                          ...



                          The request may be satisfied. recourse
                    2. +3
                      14 November 2015 10: 48
                      I was in Paris this August. A normal European city, I did not notice any feeling of Gaster dominance. Rather, the dominance of blacks.
                      1. +5
                        14 November 2015 11: 07
                        Quote: Maksus
                        I was in Paris this August. A normal European city, I did not notice any feeling of Gaster dominance. Rather, the dominance of blacks

                        They are the same in the majority of Muslims.
                        1. +3
                          14 November 2015 12: 03
                          Been in 2002 every three years. Before, there were many blacks. Now it seems like there are fewer Negroes, but there are just a lot of Turks and Arabs. It used to be something more cultural in the city or something, but now go from the Louvre to the side of sex shops on the corner, kebabs, a porn video, in the evening whores at intersections. And take the metro towards San Denis, if on the train you see a European you are lucky
                        2. +4
                          14 November 2015 12: 13
                          Quote: sisa29
                          It used to be something more cultural in the city or something, but now go from the Louvre to the sex shops on the corner, kebabs, a porn video, in the evening whores at the crossroads. And take the metro towards San Denis, if on the train you see a European you are lucky

                          2 years ago I was in Brussels, the hotel was in the area of ​​the railway station.
                          In the evening we went out for a walk, I did not understand where I went.
                          Gaza - some Arabs and blacks (and absolutely black and with huge heads) - which Belgians (aborigines) - are not there (in that area) Brussels is more Arab than Haifa and Israel in general. to meet in our burqa is a monstrous rarity, there at every step.
                        3. 0
                          14 November 2015 12: 22
                          I agree, but in Beirut there are somehow fewer of them than Arabs. It's about how to come to Nazareth from Haifa - from a decent city you find yourself in the back of a caravanserai. But, again, in the center of Paris and on the outskirts (in the area of ​​the Boulevard Periferic) - everything is very European.
                        4. +3
                          14 November 2015 12: 26
                          Quote: Maksus
                          But, again, in the center of Paris and on the outskirts (in the area of ​​the Boulevard Periferic) - everything is very European.

                          Well, of course, not like in Sakhnin, but in general ... we are all a bit racist, hell knows. what can I say, you go in Stockholm and you don’t understand (sometimes) where you are.
                          Europe relaxed - reaping the benefits.
                        5. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 48
                          It's only the beginning. Open borders + tolerance = uncontrolled flow of terrorist attacks. It is unlikely that Europe will succeed in shaking itself off and declaring another crusade.
                        6. +1
                          14 November 2015 13: 57
                          Quote: Maksus
                          It's only the beginning. Open borders + tolerance = uncontrolled flow of terrorist attacks. It is unlikely that Europe will succeed in shaking itself off and declaring another crusade.

                          not a, Europe (in recent years. it seems to me) has mentally moved to a position - after me, at least a flood.
                          Therefore, strategic decisions cannot be made.
                          so again roll the bread. feed the afflicted and. this will end, drowning the problem in a stream of chatter and coordination.
                      2. +1
                        14 November 2015 11: 40
                        Well, are they blacks Europeans ?!
                    3. +3
                      14 November 2015 11: 06
                      Quote: APASUS
                      .Just the French were chosen as the weakest link.

                      Do you think in Germany the authorities control all Arabs and other arrivals in the country?
                      The same terrorist attack can be carried out in Germany, as if it turned out that the core of terrorists in Germany exists, for the time being they do not want to shoot the office simply.
                      1. +2
                        14 November 2015 13: 06
                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        Quote: APASUS
                        .Just the French were chosen as the weakest link.

                        Do you think in Germany the authorities control all Arabs and other arrivals in the country?
                        The same terrorist attack can be carried out in Germany, as if it turned out that the core of terrorists in Germany exists, for the time being they do not want to shoot the office simply.

                        In this world, nothing happens just like that, everything has its own message:
                        1 Very soon, a meeting will be held in Syria, where a decision may be made to turn the head on terror, but after these events we will see who and how will use this fact (say that in time - to say nothing, September 11 became the prologue of very big changes)
                        2 In France, there is a very large Diaspora of Arabs and the president is weak. But she plays one of the main roles, such an attack in Estonia would not have caused anything but pity. (The country was not chosen by chance)
                        3 Germany is the press through which almost all decisions on a united Europe are pushed through. A similar terrorist attack by the Germans can lead the Germans to take up the solution of problems themselves, but someone doesn’t want to. The USA wants to lead and control this process. Rather, they will only bomb those who Americans don’t like and cherish others. Americans want not only to destroy terrorists, but also to form public opinion of whom to call a terrorist, who to execute and who to execute and who pays for everything.
                      2. +1
                        14 November 2015 15: 02
                        it’s interesting, and who controls Germany from 9.50 min. although the master there a little understands who the puppeteer really is. It’s probably not the lawyers themselves who rule the world with their hands
                      3. +1
                        14 November 2015 17: 05
                        The question doesn’t give up - why the hell do terrorists carry their passports with them? They will not be allowed to detonate a bomb without a passport?
                  3. +5
                    14 November 2015 10: 49
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: vyinemeynen
                    Bataklan PHOTO ENTRANCE

                    To see Paris and die - now takes on a completely different meaning.
                    The IG committed a terrorist attack in Paris not because France is more guilty than others, but because those who were in Paris are easiest to confirm - sometimes it’s not clear who is visiting someone — Muslims from the French or vice versa


                    Yes, sarcasm was good about seeing and dying

                    But now in our world there is nowhere where you can’t be sure that when you come down to rest in the warm regions you won’t die how beautiful the country was Syria. I visited there in 2002. the beauty of the landscape by the sea was just a non-transmitted tourist paradise, the service was lame but still beautiful.
                    In Libya, in those years it was possible to forget the wallet and come in the evening to ask the waiter and they would bring it to me so it surprised me that there was no theft and crime.
                    In Egypt, by that time he had been in a state of emergency for 30 years, now it has been strengthened, but it is not safer there.
                    Tunisia was generally cool there, but now I’m unlikely to go there.

                    What did the Middle East turn mattresses and mattresses into?
                    Now there is chaos.

                    so friends rash actions in the sandbox led to the sowing of a storm reaping a hurricane many thanks to Sarkozy, Blair, Bush Jr. and Barack for the mess.
                    1. +2
                      14 November 2015 12: 41
                      Have respect for the Russian language and for those who read you - please put punctuation marks, believe me - they do not exist in vain! hi
                  4. +8
                    14 November 2015 11: 34
                    What is surprising is how much shit is pouring from Ukraine, for all social events. networks, about the events in Paris. Everywhere there is gloating, some kind of crazy comments about supporting ISIS, selling them MANPADS, uniting with the Arab brothers and together the war against Russia, wishes that Russia would be the next ........ Lord Ukraine You are crazy...................................
                    1. +3
                      14 November 2015 12: 09
                      Quote: Ramzaj99
                      What is surprising is how much shit is pouring from Ukraine, for all social events. networks

                      When God wants to punish, he destroys the mind.
                      There is nothing more to add about Ukrainian social networks.
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                  6. +3
                    14 November 2015 12: 17
                    The irresponsible policies of the EU and Germany, in particular, as well as Hollande’s tolerant idiocy, his spinelessness and the lack of a national policy to protect the French and their rights against attacks from the crowds, are all grounds for terror, even if not related to IS, because natives of the East who had fought and turned into refugees — they become Satan and get clouded by reason from the permissiveness and defenselessness of ordinary Frenchmen. The EU has shown its failure. NATO is an aspen stake in the heart of each of the EU members who have surrendered US sovereignty and allowed occupying forces to their national territories. Now they can’t even provide their security without the Shtatovs, and those who created the IS and, who knows, can even plan it all, rub their sweaty hands, waiting for the pleas of France to Obama about the war against the IS. I am ashamed of the spineless power of the EU countries, ashamed of the cult of the alien black (alien values, anti-national politics) - the same Nobel lowriate as Hitler once was.
                    1. +1
                      14 November 2015 12: 41
                      Quote: mojohed2012
                      The irresponsible policies of the EU and Germany, in particular, as well as Hollande’s tolerant idiocy, his spinelessness and the absence of a national policy to protect the French and their rights from attacks from those who had come in, are all grounds for terror, even if not related to IS

                      +100500 hi
                2. +9
                  14 November 2015 08: 57
                  Caricaturists have been crooked!
                  1. +5
                    14 November 2015 10: 05
                    Good "stuff" for Charlie ... let's see what they "draw" this time ..
                    1. +25
                      14 November 2015 10: 11
                      Quote: Otshelnik
                      Good "stuff" for Charlie ... let's see what they "draw" this time ..

                      Not mine, but to the place.
                      I'm not Charlie.
                      I am in Grozny the house of the press.
                      And the viewer from Nord-Ost is me too!
                      I am the flame from Odessa, so know!
                      I am a dead family in Gorlovka.
                      I'm not Charlie.
                      I are children from Beslan.
                      I am a hunched mother from Donbass.
                      I am a deceased officer from Alpha.
                      I am a doctor that saved people.
                      I am a shield from the creatures that came with weapons.
                      I am a Russian tank that is fighting in Syria.
                      I'm not Charlie.
                      I'm definitely not Charlie ....

                      The war, you yourself
                      To the gate of the house
                      They brought ....
              2. mihasik
                +28
                14 November 2015 09: 03
                Quote: Kos_kalinki9
                Quote: crazyrom
                Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?

                This time, if they draw, I think the French themselves will tear off the BOSKs to them. It’s one thing to mock the Russians, but here it’s a bit wrong.

                Do not tear.
                This time they just won’t get paid, and Charlie doesn’t work for free.
                It started along the way. The states have included Plan B. Chaos in Europe is just beginning. The "owner" arranges a demonstrative flogging to the satellites, so that even the thought does not arise about independence.
                Today, a large fire broke out in a migrant camp in Calais. The answer?
                I think Europe will soon "explode" for real. But weren't they warned?
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                2. 0
                  14 November 2015 10: 29
                  Quote: mihasik

                  Do not tear.
                  This time they just won’t get paid, and Charlie doesn’t work for free.
                  I think Europe will soon "explode" for real. But weren't they warned?

                  It doesn’t explode. Once Bosko don’t unscrew their idiots, then it won’t.
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            2. +23
              14 November 2015 07: 36
              Quote: crazyrom
              Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?



              Yes, why would ???? Then there was a "tragedy" //// And now the act is ter. How can you ?. And when our plane was dropped, it was nothing. " freedom of speech". Even the question is not worth it !!! If they just stutter, then their "democratic" France will immediately cover them up! They are people more equal than all others! Serbs. Russian Muslims! ...

              P.S. Huge Condolences to the Simple French People !!! We are with you! And We grieve For the present !!!
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            4. +4
              14 November 2015 11: 40
              With all my heart, I condole the innocently affected people. This is what Europe’s short-sighted policies of their leaders have brought to Europe, this blood on the hands of Merkel, Hollande, Obama, etc., for torn apart Iraq, Libya, Syria - this is only the beginning. Well, where are you, obscurantists from Charlie, let's laugh with you, mr ..zy.
          2. -5
            14 November 2015 08: 05
            It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people
            1. +40
              14 November 2015 08: 29
              It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ...

              The wonderful beginning of the message to Charlie Ebdo, which you sent to the wrong address.
              ---
              I do not like hypocrites
              1. +11
                14 November 2015 09: 22
                Quote: Turkir
                The wonderful beginning of the message to Charlie Ebdo, which you sent to the wrong address.
                ---
                I do not like hypocrites

                Do not mix innocent people with a hollow magazine.
                1. +1
                  14 November 2015 11: 52
                  Of course I sympathize with normal people! But the whole circulation of the "dolbutnoy zhurnalchik" was bought up by someone ...
                2. +1
                  14 November 2015 13: 33
                  and where is the joy of killing people?
                  1. +2
                    14 November 2015 20: 28
                    Quote: Russiamoya
                    and where is the joy of killing people?

                    Take a look at the three posts above. Taagad wrote: "It is blasphemous to enjoy the tragedy now ..", 46 people gave him a minus !!! Are these normal people?
                    1. -2
                      14 November 2015 22: 41
                      Take a look at the three posts above. Taagad wrote: "It is blasphemous to enjoy the tragedy now ..", 46 people gave him a minus !!! Are these normal people?
                      cons for duplicity and hypocrisy, if you look at all the opuses and comments and not only on this topic Taagad /
                3. +1
                  14 November 2015 20: 43
                  I do not mix anyone and nothing. All normal people express their condolences on the death of innocent people.
                  Just do not appropriate the rights of censors and indicate to whom and when to give condolences.
                  And the fucking little magazine, as you write, dared to paint funny pictures on 224 of our compatriots who had not yet been buried.
                  One to a hundred - that, a badly fucked-up journal, will not release a single funny picture after a series of terrorist attacks in Paris.
                  I know what time it is, I won’t know, I’ll ask you.
            2. +33
              14 November 2015 08: 44
              Dear, from the point of view of a normal person in fact - you, of course, are right. I put a plus. But who will explain the same thing to these moral freaks (French)? Or do you need to grieve over the killed French, and you can mock the dead Russians (draw cartoons) as second-class people?
              1. -10
                14 November 2015 09: 00
                Now is not the time to recall past grievances. Believe me, France is very duplicitous about the Palestinian terror and indirectly supports it. But now is not the time for these memories. Now is the time to mourn over the innocently dead people ...
                1. +12
                  14 November 2015 09: 15
                  "Now is not the time to remember past grievances"

                  To fall into oblivion, or something.
                2. +7
                  14 November 2015 09: 21
                  And where does the attitude of France towards Palestine? I don’t quite understand. After all, it was not Hamas and Arafat who attacked the French. Develop a thought. And for the innocent victims a candle must be put. Let the earth rest in peace.
                  1. +3
                    14 November 2015 09: 43
                    Quote: Russian German
                    And where does the attitude of France towards Palestine? I don’t quite understand. After all, it was not Hamas and Arafat who attacked the French. Develop a thought. And for the innocent victims a candle must be put. Let the earth rest in peace.

                    Well, what without Palestine? But how can Jews be attached to this business? wink
                    1. +5
                      14 November 2015 10: 33
                      Sometimes I do not understand the "chosen of God", then you yell that you are accused of everything, and now you yourself are asking yourself to find reasons for your accusation. Of course, I knew that not everything is so simple with your sadism, but what else would you slide down to masochism?
                    2. +2
                      14 November 2015 11: 08
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, what without Palestine? But how can Jews be attached to this business?

                      But is it necessary to cling to the Jews for any reason? what
                      Innocent people died at the hands of terrorists - terror must be destroyed!
                    3. +4
                      14 November 2015 12: 45
                      Well, actually it hooks your fellow countryman ... wink
                      I'm afraid for Europeans this is only the beginning ... And the end for the EU.
                      In order to get out of this situation, a strong-willed and cruel decision is needed ... So a strong-willed and cruel leader is needed ... Under the bureaucratic structure of the European Union ... this is not yet realistic. So the situation will only grow ...
                      The dark-skinned "Trojan horse" is already in the city, and the residents are still sleeping ...
                      1. 0
                        14 November 2015 13: 37
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        Well, actually it hooks your fellow countryman ...

                        And who, interestingly, is my fellow countryman? winked
                        Neither Russian German (he did not indicate his residence), nor atalef (lives in Israel, himself from St. Petersburg) are not my countrymen ... request
                        1. +3
                          14 November 2015 15: 10
                          "Well, what about without Palestine? And how to attach the Jews to this case? Wink" -atalef. I have flashed the Israeli flag at both. I admit the mistake, I apologize. hi
                3. +12
                  14 November 2015 09: 33
                  Quote: Taagad
                  Now is not the time to recall past grievances. Believe me, France is very duplicitous about the Palestinian terror and indirectly supports it. But now is not the time for these memories. Now is the time to mourn over the innocently dead people ...

                  1. Today is early, tomorrow is late ... This is a classic of the political demagogy genre (Sorry for the harshness).
                  2. Duplicity - apparently this is the essence of tolerance, and the social basis of the abomination that is terrorism and the revolutionary call for the breaking of states.
                  The conclusion suggests itself that in those countries where the communist ideology has been condemned, where the media have convinced a significant part of the people, social protest and aspirations for the future are not associated with the idea of ​​building a new society. but with the primitive idea of ​​revenge and destruction of existing states.

                  So in the Cold War the path to the victory of communism was clearly outlined ....

                  3. We grieve for the dead ... We share the grief of the near and dear ...
                  But the state of France has many reproaches ...
                  For example, it spread sophisticated terror - base humor, insulting millions of normal rustic people, without a Sorbon education, without a Swiss watch and without a bank account even for $ 100, but people ...
                  And those who recently gathered in a minitusovka with placards "I am Charlie", and were then replicated in photographs allegedly going at the head of the whole world - contempt and accusation of indulging terrorism and lack of culture.
                4. +6
                  14 November 2015 09: 56
                  Right now it's time to get the French wet in their house, otherwise they will run into this rake again and again. and people yes, sorry
                  1. +4
                    14 November 2015 10: 05
                    Quote: Saratovets
                    Right now it's time to get the French wet in their house, otherwise they will run into this rake again and again. and people yes, sorry


                    Totally agree with you! hi Now let Hollande and Obama tell the French about moderate opposition
                  2. +3
                    14 November 2015 12: 51
                    But this is exactly the work of our Foreign Ministry. The website of our embassy should describe in detail what exactly led to such a situation ... Specifically, the policy of the French leadership, which needed the votes of "new voters who came from the south." if the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks already have French citizenship.
                5. +6
                  14 November 2015 10: 20
                  Well, I do not!! Here and without me they said what I think. But here I could not stand it. Why is this not necessary? Can we put Napoleon on the goddess? Well, he's a gentleman !! Why should I forgive and forget everything for everyone!? Excuse me !!! I do not agree !! Why did France not mourn the innocently destroyed children from New Russia ?? AND ? They don’t know about this? Let them know! This is their president - let him tell.
                6. +1
                  14 November 2015 14: 51
                  Quote: Taagad
                  Believe me, France is very duplicitous about Palestinian terror and indirectly supports it.

                  Do you have any kind of information proving your statement or did you just decide to start talking to people ???
              2. +17
                14 November 2015 09: 42
                Quote: Russian German
                Or do you need to grieve over the killed French, and you can mock the dead Russians (draw cartoons) as second-class people?

                Strong will never fall to the level of scum.
                Strong does as his conscience and education tells him and never nods to another.
                Easy to go down, go up hard .-- don't go down to Charlie's level. hi
                1. +6
                  14 November 2015 10: 00
                  Quote: atalef
                  The strong one will never go down to the level of scum. The strong one does as his conscience and education tells him and never nods at the other. It is easy to go down, go up hard. - Do not go down to the level of Charlie.


                  Nice words

                  And yet, no one (of the sane people) is gloating over the tragedy in Paris

                  I agree 100% - there are inadequate everywhere and does not mean that you need to blame them.

                  And about one famous magazine, there are good words:

                  - Do not ask for whom the bell tolls ...



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                3. +3
                  14 November 2015 13: 43
                  yes, especially in your country, where for the death of an Israeli citizen, there is an immediate treatment in the form of several killed "terrorists".
                  Strong will never fall to the level of scum. - loud and pathos. and still do not need to turn over, not a single comment with joy about the dead, but only perplexity about the reaction of the French newspaper and the French government
                  ps everyone understands that nedozhurnalyushki do it by order of the government or with their approval.
            3. mihasik
              +4
              14 November 2015 09: 10
              Quote: Taagad
              It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people

              Yeah, you tell the States. Politics, unprincipled business.
            4. +15
              14 November 2015 09: 21
              There is no joy. When a magazine was sold in Paris with very funny pictures about how the citizens of Russia are dying in a terrorist attack, the French showed their solidarity with our grief and sold out the print run. I am ready to condole with relatives of the innocently killed people, but the society laughing at our pain does not deserve condolences.
              1. 0
                14 November 2015 09: 37
                Kotovckiy, do you know what your spirit twins from the western side said after the terrorist attack on the plane? "Sorry for the dead, there is no Russia." I hope that such scumbags are in the minority on both sides ...
                1. +3
                  14 November 2015 13: 54
                  I wish you with the same active and equally loving stance to go to Western sites and forums such as VO and to protect us from aggressive attacks by Russophobes. very actively the Israeli mother sees intent and double meaning in all the comments.
                  ps water sharpens a stone, yes? happiness, good luck and peace to you
              2. +9
                14 November 2015 10: 11
                Quote: kotovckiy
                I am ready to condole with the relatives of the innocently killed people, but the society laughing at our pain does not deserve condolences.

                Are they the French that gave the World of Voltaire, Diderot, Russo, Dumas, Zola, Gauguin, Renoir, Matisse, Bonaparte, De Gaulle? !!! The current generation has only given Charlie ... France, wake up and look around !!! You are seriously ill, France.
            5. +13
              14 November 2015 09: 24
              Quote: Taagad
              It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people

              We grieve over the innocent dead people and we won’t draw vile caricatures, we don’t have the mentality. I am really sorry that the truly innocent suffered, and the abomination of Charlie Ebdo is still blooming, now it's time to laugh with Charlie, is not it?
            6. +3
              14 November 2015 09: 24
              I absolutely agree with you!
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            9. +6
              14 November 2015 09: 54
              Quote: Taagad
              It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people


              Well, then, say, like this:

              We express our sincere condolences to the people of France in connection with the terrorist attacks in Paris.
              We look forward to fresh cartoons from Charlie Ebdo. And what? It's so democratic, so European ...
            10. +7
              14 November 2015 10: 17
              We are not happy, we are simply satisfied that some Satanists gave other Satanists the same end in the same place ...
              By the way, how often do you grieve over the innocent victims in Palestine?
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            12. +10
              14 November 2015 10: 19
              Quote: Taagad
              It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people

              There are no innocents in the so-called democratic countries! Since they chose the government, they bear full responsibility for their activities! Including the trash heap called Charlie! Let us recall the procession "I am Charlie", let us recall their demonstrations of many thousands for economic reasons! And where were they when they bombed Libya, Iraq, Syria! It's time to collect stones! And at the expense of joy, it is not there, there is just an understanding that everything in the world is interconnected and sooner or later you have to answer for everything!
            13. +3
              14 November 2015 10: 33
              Nobody is happy. Just a reminder. About how civilized and enlightened people freely joked about what was allowed and what was not. And for you, dear representative, well, it is simply necessary to teach edifying everywhere and everywhere. "Teach better than your spiders" © Buratino
            14. 0
              14 November 2015 10: 51
              Yes, just mourn, along with Charlie. What a theme for an independent caricature!
            15. +1
              14 November 2015 11: 02
              And no one is happy
            16. +1
              14 November 2015 12: 41
              The death toll from two explosions in Beirut reached 43 people, more than 200 people were injured.
              Sorrow ???????
              1. +2
                14 November 2015 12: 56
                Imagine - YES! It’s a pity to ALL innocently dead people. In all countries. You see, people! Not terrorists! Not the politicians who are guilty of everything! Not the Palestinian suicide mothers, who are having a happy holiday in the whole village, because their children, heroes, were killed, but many people were blown up! Not reading Charlie with a laugh! Not calling for war based on any sacred texts! Killing is contrary to human nature. Killing innocent people - they have no right to be called people!
            17. 0
              14 November 2015 13: 32
              and where is the joy here in the comments? I hope you wrote the same thing in French social networks, after the terrorist attack in Moscow, and after the crash of the plane, and about the drowning Syrian boy, especially in the online version of this pseudo-magazine and for those who buy it, and does not condemn at least at official levels .
            18. +1
              14 November 2015 13: 54
              And I WANT a cartoon from Charlie on the terrorist attack (let the tolerant ones always be such!)
              Let the OSCE and others and a half years investigate who around the stadium and in a cafe blew up and shot ... (maybe this is an act of suicide ?!)
              Europe mourned the thousands of my fellow countrymen from the Donbass?
            19. 0
              14 November 2015 19: 45
              For Charlie there is no concept of sacrilege, 2 days ago they themselves said
          3. +33
            14 November 2015 08: 21
            Get it right! I do not gloat. And I’m not happy.

            But! These are all patterns.

            The pattern of development of a super-tolerant European civilization (pederast parades, mockery and blasphemy, "charlie") on the one hand.

            And - the pattern of development of the so-called. "Orthodox", super-conservative Islamic society.

            Therefore, the clash of civilizations that has now erupted in Paris is predictable and natural.


            And - a personal position. Treat as you like. There was nothing for them to mock the Russians who died in Egypt!
            1. +1
              14 November 2015 10: 36
              And what about tolerance? These are the same terrorists who recently blew up a plane with our citizens. Or do you also see a pattern in this event? Inhumans they are nothumans everywhere. Condolences to the relatives of the victims and to the entire French people.
          4. +15
            14 November 2015 08: 43
            I remember the Western media criticized the Russian special forces for their actions in "Nord - Ost" for a large number of victims. As practice has shown, their special services are not ready in the best way, the attackers managed to blow up the belts of the suicide bombers.
          5. +5
            14 November 2015 09: 09
            Quote: Lance
            Tolerance dances with tambourines end.

            Good expression!

            And the meaning is exact.

            Europeans can interpret the concept of "tolerance" in any way they like.
            But other peoples seem to have a consolidated opinion on this word.
            Whereas for the Hebrews tolerance is a noble attitude towards other-looking, disbelieving and propagating, for the rest of the world tolerance is an unprincipled ideology and compromising policy towards violating moral principles.
          6. +1
            14 November 2015 09: 12
            "Dances-tolerants with tambourines are ending"

            The Gaitans have a sense of life in these dances, only by removing them from power can this be stopped.
          7. +6
            14 November 2015 09: 20
            Quote: Lance
            Like movie planes in skyscrapers, so are the 11 / 9 twin towers.
            And now the "13th district" is shining for the French people ..

            Muslims kill Christians on FRIDAY 13 !!!
            World turned upside down.
            1. +4
              14 November 2015 10: 27
              Quote: atalef
              Muslims kill Christians on FRIDAY 13 !!! The world turned upside down.

              Sir, how do you know that there was not a single Jew, Muslim, Buddhist ?!
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          8. 0
            14 November 2015 11: 53
            Quote: Lance
            Westerners deservedly "dreams become reality".

            this karma fate always takes its toll.
        2. -53
          14 November 2015 06: 47
          And what about Charlie? In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.
          And there is nothing to justify terrorism by insult to cartoons. The terrorist only has a reason, he has his own goals. There would be no cartoons, so the reason would be sewn in the image of a pig, they would blow up the theater, where the fairy tale "Three Little Pigs" is being played.
          Offended, damn it, their feelings of believers. Terrorists who feel like me too. It is necessary to wet them.
          And the French must answer ISIS. Those are terrorist attacks, and the French are mass evictions of Muslims from the country, plus mountains of arms to Kurds and Iranians.
          Terror can only be fought with retaliatory terror.
          1. -16
            14 November 2015 06: 52
            That's right! As Lenin said, we will respond to white terror with red terror! And the dictatorship of the proletariat!
            1. +2
              14 November 2015 09: 43
              Quote: erlikon
              That's right! As Lenin said, we will respond to white terror with red terror! And the dictatorship of the proletariat!

              1. Lenin said a lot of the right things.
              2. But about the terror, both white and red, Lenin was wrong.
              For whites, what Lenin called terror was just the fulfillment of the historical mission and state laws of the empire - to keep the people in obedience, in slavish, humiliated, hungry, but in any way, but ... In obedience.
              The Reds openly took revenge for this.
              In historical crap, now both sides.
              We should not repeat the mistakes of grandfathers and great-grandfathers.
              3. About the dictatorship of the proletariat, Lenin was right, but with reservations. You forgot to mention the poorest peasantry (living without hiring workers) and soldiers with sailors.
              Today's base for the idea of ​​communism is much wider. Already, engineering and technical personnel, service workers, and scientists were in a state of economic oppression by officials and owners of enterprises ...

              So go ahead!
              Let us prove by deed that France is a weak link in imperialism!
          2. +20
            14 November 2015 06: 56
            Exactly.
            The purpose of the ideological terrorist attack is fear, the motive is not important.
            Terror stops either counter terror or the elimination of ideologists and financing.

            It is a pity only for ordinary people who died for the "politeness" of the authorities ...
            1. +59
              14 November 2015 07: 16
              Putin at the UN General Assembly to the West:
              "Do you at least understand-WHAT have you done? !!"
              1. +13
                14 November 2015 07: 29
                Quote: Aleksander
                Putin at the UN General Assembly to the West:
                "Do you at least understand-WHAT have you done? !!"

                Now they not only understood but also felt on their ass.
                1. +4
                  14 November 2015 09: 48
                  Quote: Homo
                  Now they not only understood but also felt on their ass.

                  I doubt very much.
                  However, we’ll soon find out about the reaction to terror.
                  But I suppose that nothing will change in Western politics.
                2. 0
                  14 November 2015 14: 02
                  not yet felt
                  ranked themselves as celestials ...
                  Holland was evacuated from the stadium ... and there are still thousands of fans with football players, etc.
              2. +2
                14 November 2015 11: 10
                I'm afraid the answer is terrible, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY CONSCIOUSLY ALL OF THESE DO IT!
            2. -20
              14 November 2015 07: 30
              Quote: Lance
              It is a pity only for ordinary people who died for the "politeness" of the authorities ...

              Now they will be more attentive closer to the elections so that such a tragedy does not happen again.
              What surprised :: of the first two dozen comments, half was somehow related to the question :: And what will Ebdo magazine publish now.
              People, be ashamed! France has a national tragedy, and you would have a look at the dances on the bones!
              1. +17
                14 November 2015 08: 53
                Quote: hydrox
                People, be ashamed! France has a national tragedy, and you would have a look at the dances on the bones!

                And you ask this question to the French, when their magazine sneered and danced on the bones of those killed in a plane crash in Egypt, and mourning was declared in Russia. And no one, no one condemned these "journalists". And remember the caricature of those killed in the Moscow metro. Something I have not seen a single statement from the French with condemnation.
                1. -2
                  14 November 2015 10: 01
                  And this is not French journalism, it is actually Jewish, and it is you who should appeal to the owners of the magazine with a demand to stop mockery, and not to the French. (I would redistribute this yellow sheet of grenade launchers, so that it would continue to be inconsistent). And you are curious that he lives and continues to mock at everything that for NORMAL people is a TRAGEDY.
                  And as long as this trough of scavengers lives on, national tragedies will no longer be tragedies, but an occasion for a liberal discussion of what they say about the next state of emergency.
                  1. +6
                    14 November 2015 10: 41
                    That is, France doesn’t seem to be involved in business? A cool plot. The magazine is registered in France, but does not obey their laws. Jews, however.
              2. +3
                14 November 2015 11: 28
                Quote: hydrox
                France has a national tragedy

                Yeah ... but among the peoples from Libya to India for many years every day has been a "holiday" ...
                France is one of the countries that fed and raised the Satanists-Wahhabis ... and now the shaitans got the command "fas" on their own.
                I’m very interested where the team came from, from Fashington, Telaviv, London, or maybe from Paris itself ?????? Aircraft, Charlie, explosions ... and all this in a very short period of time ... I do not believe in such coincidences !!!
            3. 0
              14 November 2015 11: 58
              Elimination of ideologists and financing will not work, because Washington would have to be blown up.
          3. +32
            14 November 2015 06: 57
            Quote: midashko
            In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.

            Oh, and here is Echo of Moscow, a guest came to us. Have you thrown out the "I am Charlie" plate?
            Quote: midashko
            And there is nothing to justify terrorism

            And who justifies it, except for the USA and Europe itself?
            Quote: midashko
            And the French must answer ISIS.

            And ISIS doesn’t support the French, most recently, including they called them moderate opposition.
            Quote: midashko
            , and the French mass evictions of Muslims from the country

            Dreamed
            Quote: midashko
            , plus mountains of arms to the Kurds and Iranians.

            Drugs?
            Quote: midashko
            Terror can only be fought with retaliatory terror.

            Che offer to blow up?
            1. -51
              14 November 2015 07: 39
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Che offer to blow up?

              Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A pair of megatons for each should be enough. And do not scare the beginning of the 3rd World War - it has already begun. Paris is just the last episode, from the same chain as New York 9/11, London, Madrid ... And by the way, Nord-Ost, Beslan, the Sinai plane crash is the same chain.
              It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam? If, against all odds, I still hope that I am on the side of civilization, then the 3rd World War will end relatively quickly, with little blood, and Russia will be among those who determine the post-war world order. And if Russia is on the wrong side, then the post-war world order will be gone.
              1. +11
                14 November 2015 07: 44
                Quote: Nagan
                , on the side of civilization, the 3rd World War will end relatively quickly, with little blood, and Russia will be among those who determine the post-war world order. And if Russia is on the wrong side, then the post-war world order will be gone.

                Quote: Nagan
                Che offer to blow up?

                Quote: Nagan
                Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A pair of megatons for each -

                It seemed to me that that older civilization would beAnd on this pederasts Charlie had three-room cameras with call prostitutes? Yeah, nothing better than that
                1. -7
                  14 November 2015 08: 10
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  It seemed to me that and older civilization will be

                  Muslim, or what? Firstly, according to her actions, it is somehow difficult to consider her a civilization. Secondly, Mohammed was born in 570 from the birth of Christ. So if Western civilization is considered Christian, then it is more than half a millennium older. And if you consider it Judeo-Christian (at least the West considers itself to be just that), then you can add more than a millennium (if you count from the Exodus of Jews from Egypt). But pederasts and Charlie are, alas, the costs of the same freedom and shit democracy, which allows the Islamofascists to quietly and without interference prepare and carry out terrorist attacks. I hope that sooner or later the West will understand what liberalism is leading to. It seems like there was a message somewhere that France closed its borders - has the ice really broken?
                  By the way, it still seemed to me somehow that the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?
                  1. +13
                    14 November 2015 09: 32
                    Quote: Nagan
                    By the way, it still seemed to me somehow that the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?

                    His Majesty the Russian people are diverse and identifies themselves as the Russian people
                  2. PN
                    +1
                    14 November 2015 09: 52
                    And how old was Christianity when it carried out the fires of the Holy Inquisition and the Crusades? Yes, as much as Islam now. This is, so to speak, the "transitional age" of religion. So don't drive the devil.
                    1. 0
                      14 November 2015 14: 54
                      With the introduction of Christianity by Constantine the Great as the state religion in Rome, in fact, the era of the gloomy Middle Ages began in Europe ... To eradicate paganism, churches, works of art were destroyed, libraries were burned, as a result, scientific knowledge, technology, cultural values ​​were lost .. .For example, they lost the technology of glass, restored a thousand (!) Years later ...
                      1. 0
                        14 November 2015 15: 05
                        Quote: Karlovar
                        With the introduction of Christianity by Constantine the Great as the state religion in Rome, in fact, the era of the gloomy Middle Ages began in Europe ..

                        You probably have punctuation marks not correctly placed.
                        Constantine the great. lived in the East Roman Empire in Constantinople.
                        Quote: Karlovar
                        To eradicate paganism, temples, works of art were destroyed, libraries were burned, as a result, scientific knowledge, technologies, cultural values ​​were lost ... For example, they lost the technology of glass, restored a thousand (!) Years later

                        Generally with dates such a mess.
                        1. -1
                          15 November 2015 14: 15
                          Constantine the Great (with a capital letter) lived and taxied as one Rome before the split into the western and eastern (Byzantium) parts ... And where he lived, in the sense he liked what he had to do with the East Roman Empire (which was not then) ??? Byzantium, it was Constantinople (city), but the Byzantine Empire was not yet !!! With punctuation marks you, dear, have problems .....
                      2. 0
                        14 November 2015 21: 01
                        An unusual story in Karlovy Vary. There is nothing to add.
                        Taking off my hat. The tragic picture is painted with wide strokes.
                    2. 0
                      14 November 2015 15: 56
                      Dr. Richard Sugg: British Monarchs Ate Human Flesh ..... http: //nikolgrig.livejournal.com/175249.html Europe's 'Medicinal Cannibalism': The Healing Power of Death http://www.spiegel.de/international/ zeitgeist / europe-s-medicinal-cannibalism-the



                      -healing-power-of-death-a-604548.html
                  3. +10
                    14 November 2015 10: 15
                    Quote: Nagan
                    somehow it still seemed to me that the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?

                    You are very poorly oriented in religious wars. Excuse me.
                    1. Western civilization, or rather the former Catholic, separated from traditional Christianity (Orthodoxy) in 1054. so that Western cultural values ​​are young and ancient cultures are antagonistic.
                    The essence of the split - the territories of ancient states - Egypt, the Near and Middle East, Greece .. remained Orthodox. The territories of the Western Roman Empire became Catholic, on which the Roman law took root, where it is not caught - not a thief, not proven - not a traitor ...
                    2. From the very split for the West, the worst enemies were not the Muslims who seized the Orthodox and Jewish lands, but the Orthodox Byzantium with its wealth and strategic position. Then the battle for the Balkans began ...
                    In 1204, in the Crusade, the Western army did not even reach the holy lands - they besieged, captured and plundered Constantinople ...
                    And when Constantinople was besieged by the Turks, not a single Western royal ... sent help to the perishing Christians.
                    3. The choice of Alexander Nevsky is not necessary. This is criminal.
                    Young Alexander fought the Westerners uncompromisingly, and agreed with the Horde .... he paid tribute ...
                    At first, Smolensk fought off Batu, and then he himself asked for Horde ...
                    L.N. Gumilyov very figuratively said about this: "Where do you have to go to look at Russian antiquities? That's right, to the Horde ... Novgorod, Suzdal, Vladimir ... - the entire Golden Ring ... And where the Catholics ruled for a while, even the foundations are difficult to find ... "
                    1. +2
                      14 November 2015 15: 24
                      The Crusaders not only plundered Byzantium, but occupied for more than 60 years (the empire began to be called Latin under them) .... After this occupation, Byzantium was never able to recover and in 1453 became an easy prey for the Ottomans ... As for the Horde, it was precisely tolerance and freedom of religion, the rule of law ...
                  4. +1
                    14 November 2015 12: 11
                    Yes, calm down you !!! You will not succeed in turning the Russians against Muslims, the Russian genes are not the same as yours! And by the way, you have long ago destroyed everything Christian in the West !!!
                    1. 0
                      14 November 2015 12: 22
                      Quote: Otshelnik
                      Yes, calm down you !!! You won’t succeed in turning the Russians against Muslims, the Russian genes are not the ones you have!

                      Yes, I do not need it.
                      Russians treat Muslims very well and respect their customs and traditions. hi
                      Quote: Otshelnik
                      And by the way, you have long ago destroyed everything Christian in the West !!!

                      Of course we are, who else.
                      Isil did the same we did and fight there under the guise of Muslims. hi
                      1. +1
                        14 November 2015 12: 32
                        Igil the same we did and fighting fighting there under the guise of Muslims

                        Common words. Under the guise of religion, they do their work. I already said that
                        1. +2
                          14 November 2015 12: 52
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Igil the same we did and fighting fighting there under the guise of Muslims

                          Common words. Under the guise of religion, they do their work. I already said that

                          Who would doubt your adequacy.
                          Of course, the Anglo-Saxons are fighting in Isil (along with the Jews), and Muslims are demonstrating with calls for love and tolerance.
                      2. -1
                        14 November 2015 12: 55
                        Quote: atalef
                        Yes, calm down you !!! You won’t succeed in turning the Russians against Muslims, the Russian genes are not the ones you have!

                        Yes, I do not need it.
                        Russians treat Muslims very well and respect their customs and traditions. hi
                        Quote: Otshelnik
                        And by the way, you have long ago destroyed everything Christian in the West !!!

                        Of course we are, who else.
                        Isil did the same we did and fight there under the guise of Muslims. hi

                        That's it, who else !!!
                        Nah ... you’re fighting women and children in Palestine .... But the igil were created to represent them to the world as Muslims and to fight with others ... for example, Iraq, Syria, Iran and, in the long run, Russia. ..
                    2. +1
                      14 November 2015 15: 28
                      This gentleman with an interesting flag, most likely of an interesting nationality ... It painfully fiercely hates Muslims.
                  5. +1
                    14 November 2015 12: 40
                    Quote: Nagan
                    nevertheless, the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?

                    The Russian people are Orthodox, and our country is multiconfessional.
                    Christian civilization is what? If you mean the western nativity scene where the buggers marry bestialists, then we have nothing to do with them.
                    They rotted.
                2. +4
                  14 November 2015 13: 09
                  But why at the moment do we even take sides on any side? We have our own side, given by God and watered by the blood of our ancestors ...
                  It is necessary to stand aside this time and see how the parents with the brainchild will butt ...
                  And that everyone has already forgotten who bombed Libya? And, how the evil dwarf, the former president, galloped with joy when they torn down Gadafi ... By the way, Gaddafi just restrained all this stream of dishonesty in Europe ... Or, like the current one is fighting for the rights of perverts ...
                  Be sure that tomorrow in European newspapers they will write that Russia and Putin himself are to blame for everything, it is they who will incorrectly bomb those who blow up Paris ...
              2. +16
                14 November 2015 07: 49
                Quote: Nagan
                It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam?

                These are two sides of the same coin. Western civilized obscurantism proclaims other slogans, but in fact they are only hypocrites and have not gone far from Islamic thugs.
                1. +3
                  14 November 2015 15: 41
                  Islamic thugs are not far from civilized obscurantists !!! Indians were not harassed by Muslims from the world, slaves from Africa to America were not transported by Muslims, the Crusades were not initiated by Muslims, India was not a "pearl" of a non-Muslim empire, Opium Wars were not started by Persian battleships, both world wars It was not the Arabs and the Persians who unleashed, in 1812 Moscow was not burned down by the Turks, in 1610-1612 Moscow was not occupied by the Arab gentry, in the Battle of Poltava Peter the Great did not clash with Suleiman the 12th, Constantinople in 1204 was not plundered by half-messengers ... The list goes on ...
              3. +48
                14 November 2015 08: 07
                Nagant "It's just not clear which side Russia will find itself on - civilization or medieval obscurantism called Islam?"
                To indiscriminately moan one of the world's leading religions, dope and stupidity. For centuries we have been living with Muslims in one country. Unlike Europeans. Which were brought about 50 years ago by Moroccans with Arabs and said here take, live. We ask them to love and favor. Our Muslim peoples lived in their territories until their inclusion in Russia. Islam is a normal religion. Another thing is that it is turned by the fascist Salafists. Here they also need to be wetted.
                And then, what does civilization mean?))) And we, that we live in the jungle?))) I also have civilizers, he.h.r.o.v.s.))) They can only be temporary allies, they have their own interests in us ours. Russia is not a Western civilization, maybe close to it, but not Western. Our faith is not that. I agree with Muslims faster than with Catholics. That is, the Tatars are closer to me than the Poles. The Poles are looking at us from high. I mean Muslims, normal, traditional, and not Salafi-stubborn.
                Conclusion. Do not hell to drive indiscriminately the blizzard on Islam. This is one of the greatest religions of the world. And for example, Russians have been interacting with the Tatars for more than 500 years.))) Where do you suggest we move? Together with them we beat the Poles when your America was not in sight. And the French and Germans.)))) We will figure it out ourselves somehow. And we don’t need to frighten us, with consequences, etc. On which side Russia will be ... tyre pyr ... heh heh heh we will be on our side.
                1. +11
                  14 November 2015 08: 28
                  Quote: Nagaibak
                  Swearing one of the world's leading religions indiscriminately

                  it’s not crap anymore, it’s a provocation.
                  1. 0
                    14 November 2015 09: 36
                    kashtak "this is no longer nonsense, this is a provocation."
                    Stopudovo.)))
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                  1. +8
                    14 November 2015 09: 34
                    Nagan "And we have from them: Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321, etc. Continue the list, or are you in the know?"
                    Once again for the alternatively gifted.
                    This is the work of the Salafi Nazis. Islam itself does not pose a threat in itself. If you were a smart person, you would not have written this.
                    And where does Islam love it?))) Russia has always been a tolerant country, and this is its strength. Since childhood, I grew up with Tatars and Kazakhs. And I respected their faith and customs. From afar you do not understand this under the American flag. To do this, live here. In our cities, there are no Muslim ghettos like in Paris and London. I have half the Tatars in my team. Of these, half are married to Russian women. And part of the Russians are in Tatars. Will you tell me tales about Islam? I know the family husband Tajik wife, Ukrainian. One son is Muslim, the second is Orthodox.))) Or a Tatar family where father and sons are Muslims, and mother and daughter Christians are Orthodox, even though all are Tatars.))) And these are not single examples. There are many of them. For you civilized it is of course wild, but for centuries we have got along and nothing.
                    1. -7
                      14 November 2015 12: 50
                      Quote: Nagaibak
                      Islam itself carries no threat

                      Stop cunning. He who has ears, let him hear; he who has eyes, let him see.
                      1. 0
                        14 November 2015 18: 02
                        Well, let’s not dissemble, (all the more bad business to compete with you on this issue) Islam A threat to Satanists ...
                  2. +5
                    14 November 2015 09: 36
                    Who has What does the USA have to do with it, why are you clinging to Russia? Yes, Russia, had many troubles of this plan, including those that you have listed. But where do these troubles grow from, who gave birth, who created Ben Ladon and its structure, who turned up the Middle East and North Africa and created ISIS, who is still arming and financing it? Who tried to blow up the Caucasus, who financed the terrorists who organized the Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321?
                    Behind all these events, the "ears" of the United States are visible, playing the Muslim card. And until the United States, this source and breeding ground of evil, is not destroyed, there will be no peace in the world.
                  3. +4
                    14 November 2015 09: 47
                    Quote: Nagan
                    And we have from them: Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321, etc. Continue the list, or so in the know?
                    However, if this resource is crushed by Islam-lovers, I obviously have nothing to do here.

                    They explained to you popularly that it is not necessary to confuse Orthodox Muslims with Salafists and Wahhabis.
                    Faithful - Peace to your home. The Beasts of Islam - Your Last Habit of Sartirs
                    1. +6
                      14 November 2015 09: 59
                      Quote: Tusv
                      They explained to you popularly that it is not necessary to confuse Orthodox Muslims with Salafists and Wahhabis.

                      And how to distinguish them? Or do they go to separate mosques? Are they praying for another quran? Are they dressing differently? Speak another language?
                      Let us already admit one fact (I again do not persecute Islam, I myself live in such a state and see more than anyone else, either one or the other) --- there is a problem of Muslim extremism, specifically Muslim and religious.
                      Any base, any kind of explanation can be brought under it - such as Wahhabis, and these are true believers.
                      You say that the majority of the faithful? So I’ll tell you that without the support of this orthodox majority, this Wahhabi minority would not exist.
                      Many moderates perceive IS and Wahhabis as a shock detachment (some special forces) of Islam.
                      Yes, they do not fight with them, but they support them.
                      1. +1
                        14 November 2015 10: 13
                        atalef "Yes, they do not fight with them, but they support them."
                        I don’t know about you. I know a lot of Muslim people. I have not heard a single word of support for Salafism.
                        Among the Muslims of the North Caucasus, there may be some kind of support, but not all of the population is for sure.
                        Therefore, when you discuss such topics from behind a hillock, you should understand that we can talk about specific regions, people, but not all Muslims in Russia.
                        1. +3
                          14 November 2015 10: 32
                          Quote: Nagaibak
                          I don’t know about you. I know a lot of Muslim people. I have not heard a single word of support for Salafism.

                          Of course not laughing , just how many Russians in the IG? I watched a week ago or 2 how Kadyrov was talking with a group of Chechens (all youth) - caught before leaving for Syria?
                          Young, you want to say that no one knew where they were going? Not mom. not dad, not friends?
                          Quote: Nagaibak
                          Among the Muslims of the North Caucasus, there may be some kind of support, but not all of the population is for sure.

                          Here it is not necessary only to generalize - one says - no one supports, the other says - everyone supports.
                          Do not enter into the absolute - the majority supports the IG, it raises their humiliated ego, they feel - yes we can do the same, we are strong, and in their mentality - the cult of power.

                          And of course, all Muslims understand that the Islamic State in general has nothing to fear - they generally do not touch their own.
                        2. +3
                          14 November 2015 11: 23
                          atalef "Of course not, just how many Russians are there in IS?"
                          Thousands? Tens of thousands?))) Several hundred Chechens?))) So how many are there? I’m not writing that nobody is there. This is another moment. In different regions in different ways. And you all worked out one thing.
                          atalef "Don't just generalize - one says - no one supports, the other says - everyone supports."
                          Again. Not everyone supports it. In your opinion, 6 million Tatars and Bashkirs support them? No. If there are units. You do not understand what it is about? As already explained to you))) in the North Caucasus there is some kind of support otherwise the bandit underground would not work for so many years. But, you are talking about everyone and all Muslims with a single paint smear. I am against what. At the same time, Siberian Tatars live in a village somewhere near Tyumen, as before. They are Salafists and Buddhists. At work, whoever is not there. I did not come across their support for extremist statements, etc.
                          And of course there will be no caliphate. In addition to faith, there is also nationality, the complementarity of peoples. This is all and will break in the end. From the point of view of the Salafis, many of the customs of the Russian peoples professing Islam are inappropriate. But, these peoples will never abandon the remnants of paganism and their adat. That’s the whole story.
                        3. 0
                          14 November 2015 11: 33
                          Quote: Nagaibak
                          Thousands? Tens of thousands?))) Several hundred Chechens?)))

                          In general, the conversation is about 5-7 tons, the question is why they are fighting for the IG. not for Assad?
                          Quote: Nagaibak
                          Again. Not everyone supports it. In your opinion, 6 million Tatars and Bashkirs support them? No

                          Can't you read? No need to generalize and ask about everyone as not all.
                          6 million or 300 tons - I say that there is support, in families, imams, etc. - otherwise how?
                          Why is it that Jews are not there, Christians are the same as Muslims from the Russian Federation do there? If not supported?

                          Quote: Nagaibak
                          But, you’re talking about everyone and all Muslims are smeared with one paint

                          You are talking about everyone, I never use words
                          All, not one and not having analogues in the world.

                          Quote: Nagaibak
                          From the point of view of the Salafis, many of the customs of the Russian peoples professing Islam are inappropriate. But, these peoples will never abandon the remnants of paganism and their adat. That’s the whole story.

                          The tale is that they will either destroy the pagans or force them to convert to Islam.
                          And this is all in accordance with the Quran.
                        4. +1
                          14 November 2015 12: 42
                          atalef "In general, the conversation is about 5-7 tons, the question is, why are they fighting for IS. and not for Assad?"
                          And why are Chechens and Circassians fighting for Assad who have been fighting against us all their lives and left for Syria in the 19th century. Their diaspora is for Assad.))) 5-7 thousand. This is a stretch and very big. Why not 10-15 thousand? Is this taking into account the Uzbeks and other Middle Asia?))) In Turkey and Syria, censuses were conducted under Tsar Gorokh. The population of these countries is estimated, no one knows how much they live there.))) And you about figures of fighters speak. Who shamelessly lies such and their number will be.)))
                          atalef "There is no need to generalize and ask about everyone as well as not everyone."
                          So you generalize it. Like they all support ... I tell you this h.earn.ya in vegetable oil.)))
                          atalef "6 million or 300t - I say that there is support, in families, imams, etc. - otherwise how?
                          Why are there no Jews there, Christians - the same thing that Muslims from the Russian Federation do there? "
                          Damn ... Tatars and Bashkirs are not there either. If there is one, the unit is the kid who’s the brain of the s.a.s.r.p.a. And you again ask the question what Muslims from Russia do there, that is, again generalize. None of the world.))) We must first find out who is there. And then talk about Muslims from Russia in a general way how you do it.

                          atalef "The tale is that they will either destroy the pagans or force them to convert to Islam."
                          Yeah, they are all half pagans there, they still feed the gods of the house. Who will force someone to go there and where is the question. Basayev won hope for the support of the peoples of Dagestan, but what happened? You probably don’t know?) They rose against him.))) You do not compare our North Caucasus with your baboons.)))
                      2. +1
                        14 November 2015 11: 12
                        Quote: atalef
                        there is a problem of Muslim extremism, namely Muslim and religious.

                        Theosophy has nothing to do with it. Just a cover for a simple idea of ​​omnipotence. What was written on the badge of the fascist - God is with us, what is written on the dollar - We believe in God. And these are Christians !!! Who flooded the world with blood
                        1. +1
                          14 November 2015 11: 17
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Theosophy has nothing to do with it

                          As well as where (by the way, why did you use this word?)

                          Quote: Tusv
                          Just a cover for a simple idea of ​​omnipotence

                          Exaggerate, the authorities want everything, but specific people, specific religions cut their heads
                          Quote: Tusv
                          What was written on the badge of the fascist - God is with us, what is written on the dollar - We believe in God. And these are Christians !!! Who flooded the world with blood

                          Looking for a justification in history? On others we nod?
                          It justifies, huh?
                          That's because of such moderate believers and Wahhabis feel great.
                          You defend and justify them - read carefully what you wrote.
                        2. +1
                          14 November 2015 11: 43
                          Quote: atalef
                          You defend and justify them - read carefully what you wrote.

                          I protect the faithful Muslims from not just attacks, but to monsters a place in Sartir. A brief summary of my posts
                      3. +7
                        14 November 2015 11: 51
                        I’m a Muslim and I’ll tell you Satan’s chosen one .... close the sewer ... you created them, maybe people don’t know here but we know that your ancestors sowed the change of their own shaitans 1400 years ago. (The most notorious Wahhabis are called Hawarids, Muslims fought with them another 1400 years ago. The battle of Siffein was the largest, the army of Satan was defeated)
                        And then in the 19th century, you, Satan, chosen by the hands of the Anglo-Saxons, revived them ... (well, I think this info. Many already know)
                        And now you see your offspring for us, for Muslims ...
                        When sewerage clogs up what happens? That's it ... wait for your offspring home, now they are not sickly hammering in Syria ...
                        1. +2
                          14 November 2015 12: 56
                          Easy to nod to others. Only for some reason, wherever the blood of the innocent flows, you hear the bestial roar Allah Akbar.
                        2. 0
                          14 November 2015 13: 47
                          Meaning, you want to say that when you kill children and women in Palestine, shout to Allahu Akbar? That's the news !!!
                        3. 0
                          14 November 2015 14: 01
                          I said what I wanted to say. And if the meaning of what I said does not reach your brains, and you started translating the arrows, it is not my fault. Your co-religionists kill children, old people and women in Palestine, however bitter it may sound.
                          Let's not take our heading off the topic of the article.
                        4. 0
                          14 November 2015 18: 56
                          Listen to the unselected, truth has long reached my brain ... and my brains do not perceive your hypocrisy, and thank God!
                          I will not be surprised that you kill the helpless, you are the people who killed the Prophets, what else can you expect ...
                        5. +1
                          14 November 2015 19: 16
                          Ek hooked you, sick laughing What hypocrisy do you mean? And you kill the helpless. And at the same time roaring, God is great, is it not hypocrisy.
                        6. +2
                          14 November 2015 19: 17
                          Quote: Otshelnik
                          Listen to the unselected, truth has long reached my brain

                          Lucky beggar
                          Quote: Otshelnik
                          I will not be surprised that you kill the helpless, you are the people who killed the Prophets, what else can you expect ...

                          Why in the plural?
                          by the way, call all the prophets, your religion (Islam as I understand it), and I will continue about the prophets.
                        7. 0
                          14 November 2015 23: 01
                          Well, you somehow grew up and lived most of your life in the Muslim republic. alive and well
                          miru mir IL Today, 12:56 PM ↑
                          Easy to nod to others. Only for some reason, wherever the blood of the innocent flows, the bestial roar of Allahu Akbar is heard.
                        8. +1
                          14 November 2015 23: 07
                          Was there such Islam in my homeland? The Kyrgyz did not read the Koran and its various interpretations. They paid tribute to traditions, that's all. Mom also at Easter baked cakes and painted eggs. Was our family religious, no, also a tribute to traditions ...
                        9. 0
                          14 November 2015 16: 02
                          For some time now, these "chosen ones" regularly use the Anglo-Saxons as cannon fodder to advance their interests ....
                      4. 0
                        14 November 2015 18: 09
                        Well, yes, the Wahhabis have their own mosques (by the way, this is still a question of whether these buildings are mosques), their prayers are different, their clothes are different, they even have different azan times. The Qur'an is interpreted as pleasing to me. I can continue, but I think you’re fine and without me you know !!
                        1. +1
                          14 November 2015 19: 20
                          Quote: Otshelnik
                          yes, the Wahhabis have their own mosques (by the way, it’s still a question of whether these mosques are mosques), they have their own form of prayers, the form of clothes is also different, they even have different azanas.

                          The Orthodox, Catholics, Lutherans and Evangelists, etc. - the same
                          differences in prayer, form (communion) and clothing

                          Quote: Otshelnik
                          I can continue, but I think you are all the more well and without me know !!

                          Of course, no matter how different they are, they are all Sunni Muslims and believe in Allah, read the Qur'an just like you and pray just like you 5 times a day (well, you may be smaller)
                        2. +2
                          14 November 2015 19: 40
                          atalef (
                          Wahhabis, this is a sect in Islam.
                          Yes, it has a dominant position in Saudi Arabia, however, it is an extremely reactionary, essentially bandit sect.
                          So why should a sect, its antics, be extrapolated to all Muslims?
                          If this is to build logical premises, then where are the Jewish Orthodox Christians who do not want to serve Israel, then who are they?
                          Maybe you’re better at your place, to figure out who is who, why and why, and only then, here or in another place, you will throw all sorts of absurd accusations?

                          In Dagestan, in two villages, Kara and Chaban-mahi, at one time the Wahhabis showed what they stand for, traditional Islam of Dagestan has nothing to do with this sect and smear the same color, Wahhabi and Sunni sectarians in general, like Shiites, are not worth it .

                          The Protestants, for example, the cooler Mennonites, had a mind for reason, with regard to any participation in government affairs, the former, the primacy of the Golden Calf, by the way copied from you, and the latter, the sect in its pure form, persecuted everywhere, nobody in the countries needs.
                          The Baptists, whose den in the United States, are certainly a sect, totalitarian, not to mention all sorts of Moons, Hubbardists, and so on, so now, maybe they will be charged with them?
                          And there is something for that.
                      5. 0
                        14 November 2015 19: 09
                        so in your opinion, it was necessary to destroy all Germans. they, too, all shouted hail and cried with joy when they saw the Fuhrer. lived next to the Nazis, sold them food, rented housing. but cutting off the hydra’s head, the problem disappeared.
                        and people in the mass have changed. the main thing is that for Nazism, extremism, etc. there would be no fertilized soil and a favorable environment. the main thing is propaganda and ideology, only it is necessary on the contrary with a + sign.
                        1. +1
                          14 November 2015 23: 08
                          why my comment appears elsewhere. should be like this:
                          Russiamoya (1) RU Today, 19:09 ↑
                          so in your opinion, it was necessary to destroy all Germans. they, too, all shouted hail and cried with joy when they saw the Fuhrer. lived next to the Nazis, sold them food, rented housing. but cutting off the hydra’s head, the problem disappeared.
                          and people in the mass have changed. the main thing is that for Nazism, extremism, etc. there would be no fertilized soil and a favorable environment. the main thing is propaganda and ideology, only it is necessary on the contrary with a + sign.
                          You say that the majority of the faithful? So I’ll tell you that without the support of this orthodox majority, this Wahhabi minority would not exist.
                          Many moderates perceive IS and Wahhabis as a shock detachment (some special forces) of Islam.
                          Yes, they do not fight with them, but they support them.
                      6. +1
                        14 November 2015 21: 08
                        Muslim extremism

                        Muslim extreme? It is very original.
                  4. +2
                    14 November 2015 09: 55
                    If you think so - we have from Catholics at least two world wars provoked by your "civilization".
                    1. +7
                      14 November 2015 10: 15
                      Quote: Fafnir
                      If you think so - we have from Catholics at least two world wars provoked by your "civilization".

                      What does it matter what happened 100 years ago and how does it justify what is happening now?
                      Here citing such examples as an example and justify these terrorug.
                      Of course, all Christians are guilty of an indelible stain, because they cut off a member of some great-grandson of the equestrian prophet in some battle 1000 years ago.
                      And this (type) they can’t forget to this day and will take revenge.
                      It’s good to seek excuses, terror is terror and the answer to it may not be a tolerant wagging of your ass - but destruction.
                      1. +1
                        14 November 2015 11: 26
                        Quote: atalef
                        Terror is terror, and the answer to it is not a tolerant wagging of your ass - but destruction.

                        The Israelite said destroying the houses where terrorists live. And you didn’t think that by demolishing a house you make enemies even more
                        1. +2
                          14 November 2015 11: 35
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Israeli said destroying houses where terrorists live

                          Unfortunately, it’s a pity that neither with them
                          Quote: Tusv
                          And you didn’t think that by demolishing a house you make enemies even more

                          I didn’t think and I’m not going to think.
                          The terrorist must be destroyed and his family must suffer.
                          May we better them than they us.
                        2. +3
                          14 November 2015 11: 56
                          Quote: atalef
                          I didn’t think and I’m not going to think.
                          The terrorist must be destroyed and his family must suffer.
                          May we better them than they us.

                          That’s why you are a patch of the enclosed desert, and Russia is a part of the world. Russia is wise. If a friend comes out of the enemy, then he will at least not spoil the house where he lives.
                          For this, Russia is building mosques, not demolishing them. Terrorists "wets in sartier", but does not touch his house
                        3. +1
                          14 November 2015 19: 24
                          Quote: Tusv
                          That's why you are scraps of a walled desert

                          Refined, mind you
                          Quote: Tusv
                          and Russia is part of the world.

                          wonderful and 7
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Russia is wise. If a friend comes out of the enemy, then he will at least not spoil the house where he lives.

                          I like your reasoning, and from whom are you going to make friends? From ISIS?
                          Quote: Tusv
                          For this, Russia is building mosques, not demolishing them. Terrorists "wets in sartier", but does not touch his house

                          will you comment?
                          The leader of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, said on December 5 that terrorist families would be expelled from Chechnya without the right to return, and their homes would be demolished. He made this statement after the terrorist attack in Grozny

                          Well, Kadyrov is not Russia. he is probably a Jew wink
                        4. +3
                          14 November 2015 11: 41
                          Quote: Tusv
                          And you didn’t think that by demolishing a house you make enemies even more

                          They have been jumping on this rake for decades.
                        5. 0
                          14 November 2015 19: 01
                          Aha !! A rake is not only a garden tool
                  5. +1
                    14 November 2015 11: 22
                    Quote: Nagan
                    And we have from them: Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321, etc. Continue the list, or so in the know?
                    However, if this resource is crushed by Islam-lovers, I obviously have nothing to do here.

                    Terrorists have neither nationality nor religion. When the Red Army factions organized terror in Germany, the Neo-Nazis and Red Brigades in Italy, the IRA in England, and the Basque ETA in Spain - is that what you think Christians killed Christians and Muslims?
                    This is extremism based on turned brains, justified by the ideas of nationalism, communism, fascism, somewhere - Christian values, and in our case, covered by Islam. But these terrorists have nothing to do with Islam! First of all, Muslims themselves suffer from them!
                  6. 0
                    15 November 2015 06: 23
                    Quote: Nagan
                    I didn’t enter the month, and today, obviously, I also went in vain

                    American, you probably drink a lot, look at your last comments, every day you leave traces on the site.
                3. +4
                  14 November 2015 15: 52
                  You are not right about the Poles ... They do not look high, but, on the contrary, understand their inferiority perfectly, they have a complex of a country of unfulfilled hopes (they began with the occupation of Moscow in 1610 and ended with four sections of Poland). The Pope deliberately brought up the Pope as a hyena in the war against Muscovy, and when it smelled of kerosene, with a clear conscience they threw them to deal with their shit themselves, took advantage of it and threw the number as a product ...
              4. +11
                14 November 2015 08: 58
                Revolver
                "Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further down the list. A couple of megatons for each should be enough. And do not frighten the beginning of World War III .."
                Damaged and ??? Apparently you hope that the United States (Your Flag !!!) will remain on the sidelines and sit overseas ???
                You didn’t think about why people don’t like snacks in Russia ?? Ordinary normal people, why don’t they love ?? And you suggest - a trifle, so nothing ...

                I don’t even want to prophesy (it will come true 100%) - immediately there will be calls “Kill your Christian neighbor !!! Avenge Mecca !!!” and true believers (there is no talk about fanatics !!!!) will go and kill, and choke The West is in blood, and they will not need any nuclear weapons ...
                How many Muslims are there in the US? From 6 to 15 millions (according to various estimates) - here you have at least 5 millions of dead people in the first days right away ... and no police / army can handle it ...

                Here forever the United States will do some kind of stupidity, and then the whole world is raking ....
              5. mihasik
                +3
                14 November 2015 09: 19
                Quote: Nagan
                ... It's just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism ...

                The nursery of medieval obscurantism is right there, under what flag you entered here. Can remind whose project is al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc.?
              6. +5
                14 November 2015 09: 58
                Quote: Nagan
                It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam?

                Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                Unclear???????????????????????

                And we understand that Russia has long been fighting the NATO Mordaire and a tolerant geyropa for justice and cultural values.
                Even against the oligarchs and some officials ...
                Is medieval obscurantism Avicenna, Nizami, Omar Khayyam or Charlie Ebdo with Jens Stoltenberg and McCain?
              7. +4
                14 November 2015 11: 05
                Quote: Nagan
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Che offer to blow up?

                Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A pair of megatons for each should be enough.

                And about Washington, which sponsors 99% of Islamism. Then there will be no funding for ISIS, al-Qaeda, or "moderate" terrorists.

                Quote: Nagan
                It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam? If, against all odds, I still hope that I am on the side of civilization, then the 3rd World War will end relatively quickly, with little blood, and Russia will be among those who determine the post-war world order. And if Russia is on the wrong side, then the post-war world order will be gone.

                And Obama's statements about the exclusiveness of the United States, "democratic" bombing - why not obscurantism? How much grief did the bombing of the Catholic-Protestant NATO countries bring to the people? How is your bombing for freedom and democracy different from Islamism? In my opinion, only because you use bombs and missiles, and the Islamists - small arms, explosives and suicide bombers. And Russia, according to Western media, after Crimea became "on the wrong side" laughing And the order is no longer post-war.
              8. +9
                14 November 2015 11: 32
                Quote: Nagan

                Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further down the list

                USA blow up to hell and the world will become cleaner, right away!
              9. +2
                14 November 2015 12: 19
                Quote: Nagan
                It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism

                Revolver, but is it possible to clarify the very concept of "civilization"?

                Who is this ??

                Those who divide the terrorists into moderate and not so?
                Those who scream about the violation of the rights of people who cut off their heads wrong?
                Those declaring war on terrorists and at the same time throwing off / selling weapons to them?
                Those who buy cheap oil from the same terrorists?

                Or maybe these are the communities that tolerate the cynicism of "Charlie" out of tolerance?
                Or maybe these are those who put a spoke in the wheels and gundit about the "wrong" bombing of Russia in Syria?

                What kind of "civilization" can we talk about in the territories of Europe occupied by American bases?
                Where did you find it there, this "civilization"?
                Is it worth mentioning the double standards of "civilization"?

                Is it worth mentioning that last night in Paris was just a LEGAL CONSEQUENCE of those cynical actions of your "civilization" that Europe is practicing on orders from overseas?

                Your "civilization" has long ago discredited itself and devalued itself, but continues to behave like "the ultimate truth." Especially in relation to Russia.

                Revolver, Russia is not the country in which you can shake beads and mirrors and exchange them for different "nishtyaks" for yourself. And who told you that Russia is on the way with your "civilization", which is not even able to defend itself?

                And how many show-off something your "civilization" has. NATO, European security, joint exercises (against Russia)). Ambition, pathos, meetings, briefings, "preoccupied" ... And then a few bearded thugs came and put cancer in the European capital.

                Revolver, to call oneself "civilization" and to be it are DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.
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                  +1
                  15 November 2015 09: 35
                  Quote: GRIG
                  Russia is not a country in which you can shake beads and mirrors and exchange for various "nishtyaks" for yourself

                  Purely for the sake of justice:
                  Marked and Drunkard drove for "minibuses" themselves, and when they changed the country for minibuses, the people for the most part did not mind, sipping alcohol "Royal" and eating a new-fashioned hamburger.
            2. +5
              14 November 2015 10: 38
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Che offer to blow up?

              I argued with you yesterday, today I support and propose to blow up Nagan.
          4. +17
            14 November 2015 07: 10
            ISIS is not terrorists. Rather, a sect of sadistic hippies, or something ... Yesterday I tried to post a video: "very soon", but the resource was blocked, that's where the horror is ... But the French still need to draw a picture like where the ISIS in the stadium football heads play. Nefiga wipe, as we do and them! No options. It's not a joke.
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 07: 11
              Here I’ll try to get this video again ... At worst, a link.
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            3. +1
              14 November 2015 07: 47
              Quote: mirag2
              ISIS is a hippie sadistic sect ..

              Hrenase ... How is that?
          5. +25
            14 November 2015 07: 27
            Quote: midashko
            And what about Charlie? In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.

            It will sound disgusting, but I will say. When someone dies or dies, write to me, I will draw a caricature of the death of your loved ones. And we all laugh together. And then let's look at your reaction !!! With such views as you need to be treated! am
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 13: 55
              He will not have a reaction ... they froze in the process)
          6. +6
            14 November 2015 07: 45
            The bills must be presented to the breadwinner IG - phonington.
          7. +3
            14 November 2015 07: 47
            And what about Charlie? In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.

            Exactly, with a vile darling. Apparently, you were not directly affected by the caricature of the A321 catastrophe in the Sinai, and God forbid that you touched.
            It is necessary to wet them.

            Until you were touched on the couch, everyone was Suvorov.
            In general, minus you. hi
          8. +7
            14 November 2015 08: 10
            terrorism did not have to be cultivated originally. France danced in the same team with the United States on the topic of the war against the USSR in Afghanistan, from where did Islamic extremism go, which right now in France has proved itself. These are not anti-Israeli groups; these are derivatives of what was created by the USA and its allies against the USSR, as well as the consequences of modern flirting with bandits.
        3. +6
          14 November 2015 08: 26
          Quote: Thronekeeper
          Charlie deservedly got a bullet in eblo

          And when will the pictures from Charlie appear? The people, of course, are sorry, but it is difficult to resist this question.
        4. +8
          14 November 2015 08: 29
          First of all, condolences to the French people from us, very sorry for the dead people. I hope it is over with the so-called Western tolerance values.
        5. 0
          14 November 2015 09: 04
          Quote: Thronekeeper
          Charlie deservedly got a bullet in eblo


          What will humorists do this time? Maybe this time their frog prez itself will shut up forever ?!
        6. +2
          14 November 2015 09: 59
          I don't Charlie sympathize with the French
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        8. +1
          14 November 2015 12: 56
          Charlie deservedly got a bullet in


          Are these 153 unfortunate ex-people all your employees Charlie?
          Who is the plus plus tact?

          ... At least sympathy and condolences to the families of the victims in Paris
          And a lesson to all living ...

          The fourth world is getting warmer ...?

          “I would like to confirm the readiness of the Russian side for the closest cooperation with French partners in the investigation of the crime committed in Paris,” Putin said. “I hope that his customers and executors will suffer deserved punishment.
      2. +17
        14 November 2015 06: 20
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

        Charlie is having fun now, caricatures are coming up.


        The Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Paris.

        In fact, ISIS approved, but so far no one has taken responsibility.
        1. +17
          14 November 2015 06: 22
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Charlie is having fun now, caricatures are coming up.

          fertile topic for "creativity" ... (sarcasm, if that ...)
          1. +24
            14 November 2015 06: 49
            My condolences to the French people!
            For them, it's Nord-Ost or September 11th. And Hollande is obliged to answer. I wonder who will go for? Will Assad ("This is for Syria") be blamed from the Russian Federation or "will he turn on his brains"? After all, IS is the staging of the West. And for sure terrorists entered the EU countries with refugees - now the whole EU will be under stress. It is interesting that at the friendly match France-Germany were noted - they gave a hint to the entire EU. The refugee problem is becoming a cancer for Europe; now no EU country can be insured against terrorist attacks. The entire EU needs to decide what to do. Walking arm in arm in Paris, EU leaders will not solve the problem.
            This can lead to tension in NATO. France will call for revenge, while others, frightened, will begin to put pressure on the brakes. Canada has already left the coalition, the rich Arabs are occupied by Yemen. But since Europeans are on a short leash with Washington, it is unlikely that France will join the Russian Aerospace Forces, Assad, the Iranians and Hezbollah. They would rather cooperate with the Kurds (but here the Turks) than with the Syrians.
            The French recently hit IG oil production. And this attack can be considered an answer - apparently the French did not bomb badly. hi
            1. +8
              14 November 2015 07: 12
              Quote: Kasym
              Hollande must answer. I wonder who will go for? Will Assad ("This is for Syria") be blamed from the Russian Federation or "will he turn on his brains"? After all, IS is the staging of the West.

              Islamic terrorists are feeding them, now they thank in full ... Yesterday there was a big article with Satanovsky, he said very correctly - They don’t understand how all those people whom they support hate them. And the more they support them, the more they hate them.
              I do not know what they will come to now and what they will decide, but the reaction will apparently follow. When this happens somewhere in the distance, they do not particularly care, they can draw "funny" cartoons ... And now a blow to the very center of the solar plexus of Europe. We'll see...
          2. 0
            14 November 2015 09: 35
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            fertile theme for "creativity"

            Look:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humwInGPf_E
            What do you say? A hint, however ... Oh, close RT nnna ...
        2. +14
          14 November 2015 06: 27
          But there will be a weighty argument in favor of the ground operation in Syria, led by ... the United States, when viewing the news, I remembered the twin towers hi It’s a pity for people, only what did their government do to prevent this from happening? whatThis is a provocation or the result of their policy towards the Arab countries, the result is one! And in the states, as usual, there is silence, a paradise island, their mother is pi.pi.pi.
          1. +6
            14 November 2015 06: 59
            Quote: kot28.ru
            what did their government do to prevent this from happening

            Nothing special :: "matched" with the USA, not with Russia.
            Hollande thought it was better not to fight with the bandits, but to be friends with their master
          2. +21
            14 November 2015 07: 00
            Quote: kot28.ru
            It’s a pity for people, only what did their government do to prevent this from happening?

            Of course, it is a pity for the people, but the government did EVERYTHING to make it happen - support for the "Arab spring", the Syrian opposition, the destruction of Libya, the reception of refugees.
            Western man lived like "behind the glass"-somewhere his French planes bombed Libya, somewhere they bombed Iraq, and he watched it on TV from a safe distance and went to bed. But today "glass"
            broken and all the horror and blood suddenly surged into his house! And this is the result of HIS indulgence to his abnormal politicians ....
            1. +5
              14 November 2015 10: 47
              Quote: Aleksander
              Western layman lived like "behind the glass" - somewhere his French planes bombed Libya, somewhere Iraq was bombed, and he watched it on TV from a safe distance and went to bed. But today "glass"
              broken and all the horror and blood suddenly surged into his house! And this is the result of HIS indulgence to his abnormal politicians ....

              This is aggravated by the fact that at the head of the once great powers are puppets and outright nonentities, loudly called "leaders." In this case, Rag Hollande, who recently invited migrants to his home "for registration", recently decided to "take part" in the "anti-beard" operation, trying to snatch at least a leaf from a laurel twig, but got a huge cactus in the ass. And this bastard called Marine Le Pen an extremist ... Think, France, think ...
            2. +1
              14 November 2015 16: 27
              In an amicable way, Hollande and Merkel, the inhabitants of their countries should declare impeachment, and then judge, at least under the article "negligence" .... But there are no such citizens there, there is a gray mass of hamsters ...
          3. +1
            14 November 2015 16: 21
            If the United States goes to a ground operation in Syria, then the Chinese will also get in touch with the ground (they cannot allow chaos in Syria and the BV in general, for various reasons) .. How would the Russian Federation also not have to start the ground, at least keep an eye on the United States with its allies. .
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          2. -6
            14 November 2015 08: 22
            Quote: xasharat
            Not one real Muslim, he won’t do that. I think this is the work of the Jewish Masonic elite
            Muslims slaughter Christians, and Jews, as always, are to blame. An old song, you just forgot to shout the hail in honor of your idol Adolf, and so reproduced close to the original.
            1. +3
              14 November 2015 09: 16
              Dear, just do not hang all the dogs on Muslims. Islam is a world religion, like all religions, Islam values ​​human life and human values ​​above all.
              1. +2
                14 November 2015 16: 29
                Islam even (about uzhos) forbids usury ....
            2. 0
              14 November 2015 19: 06
              But I wonder why people made the axiom of "and the Jews are guilty as always" ????? What did the Jews do that everyone points their fingers at them
              ...?
          3. +1
            14 November 2015 09: 20
            normal yes, but how many normal Muslims remain. Right now, everything is smoothly turning into Wahhabis. And these are no longer Muslims. These are bandits disguised as Islam.
            Those who are now running around with guns in Paris are not anti-Israeli bandits - they are most likely the extortion of all groups like Al Qaeda, which were created to fight Russia and the USSR. In general, they are allies of the Jews, then I agree.
          4. +1
            14 November 2015 13: 01
            Quote: xasharat
            Not one real Muslim, this will not do

            Yes Yes Yes belay It is very convenient to shift from a sore head to a healthy one.
        4. 0
          14 November 2015 16: 12
          If the IG does not take responsibility for the Paris attacks, then this will be a good predictive sign ....
      3. +12
        14 November 2015 06: 31
        maybe I’m an inert person, but when I read this terrible news at night, for some reason one single thought crawled into my brain - E.B.D.O. charlie how will react
        1. +5
          14 November 2015 06: 39
          Quote: DrMadfisher
          E.B.D.O. charlie how will react

          Probably like that?
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      4. +16
        14 November 2015 06: 45
        The people, of course, are sorry, but France, as a state, ran into herself. We are waiting for pranksters without borders from Charlie.
      5. +1
        14 November 2015 07: 20
        Here she is. The answer is tolerance. And this is just the beginning.
        1. +2
          14 November 2015 07: 25
          Here in RT, the live broadcast was:
          1. +2
            14 November 2015 07: 34
            A few videos, maybe someone has not seen:
            1. +1
              14 November 2015 07: 53
              Another relative svezhak, France Press post 42 minutes ago:
              1. +1
                14 November 2015 07: 56
                same from the Associated Press:
      6. +13
        14 November 2015 07: 58
        Well, "Charlie Hebdo" is more from the field of psychiatry, it is to the doctor.
        As for the terrorist attacks in Paris, there was information on the media (TV Russia-24) that these terrorist attacks were ISIS revenge for the actions of French aviation - airstrikes on ISIS targets in the last two days preceding the Paris attacks. In this connection, I had a question: if the Russian Aerospace Forces for 1,5 months mix ISIS with mud and sand in Syria. That response "revenge" (the same terrorist attacks in Moscow or St. Petersburg) from ISIS did not follow (ugh, ugh, so as not to jinx it!). Is it ISIS that is so afraid of Russia and its special services, or these creatures are preparing something large-scale. I hope that those Russian specialists whose professional duties include the prevention of terrorist attacks will be able in time to suppress any inclinations in this regard from both ISIS and those who are behind this ... "fighters for the faith."
        I have the honor.
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 08: 07
          Will hope...
          Yesterday, a man arrived from Moscow, told that they are looking for 18 terrorists with bombs, children are not allowed to gather at public events. Maybe someone knows ... is this true?
          1. +3
            14 November 2015 08: 21
            Even if this is not true, it is better to overtake than not to overtake. That's about the prohibitions, we have not heard anything, to be honest. Everything is somehow on the verge of rumors.
          2. +1
            14 November 2015 10: 18
            It's a complete lie, we have a situation under control in Moscow.
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 11: 20
              And thank God !!! What I wish to everyone!
        2. +5
          14 November 2015 08: 08
          Quote: Alexander72
          This ISIS is so afraid of Russia and its special services

          Most likely it is .... We have a lot of experience in this area! And we do not suffer from tolerance! And the most important thing is that Russia has great authority on BB and has many connections! "The East is a delicate matter ..." And we are half Asians and know how to feel all the nuances and, most importantly, we can show strength and toughness! These are the things in the special service! hi
        3. +3
          14 November 2015 09: 16
          Quote: Alexander72
          As for the terrorist attacks in Paris, there was information on the media (TV Russia-24) that these terrorist attacks were ISIS revenge for the actions of French aviation - airstrikes on ISIS targets in the last two days preceding the Paris attacks. In this connection, I had a question: if the Russian Aerospace Forces for 1,5 months mix ISIS with mud and sand in Syria. That response "revenge" (the same terrorist attacks in Moscow or St. Petersburg) from ISIS did not follow (ugh, ugh, so as not to jinx it!). Is it ISIS that is so afraid of Russia and its special services, or these creatures are preparing something large-scale.


          Linking the terrorist attack to the ISIS bombing exists as a version. But it seems to me unlikely that ISIS is able to plan and conduct such a large-scale intimidation campaign so quickly ...

          Most likely, the attacks were planned in advance, carefully and thought out. And the coincidence with the recent bombing of oil fields controlled by the "Islamic State" is just a coincidence.

          Although, bearded men, they can declare that this is precisely revenge for air raids in order to show how quickly they can respond.
      7. +5
        14 November 2015 08: 04
        Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
        May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!
        1. +9
          14 November 2015 08: 14
          Quote: Taagad
          Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...

          And who will go just like that?) Do you think it is so easy?) A good half of refugees will take up arms, most likely there are caches there. So there will be war.
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 16: 34
            That's what the calculation is done ...
        2. +1
          14 November 2015 09: 10
          export technology minimum 25-30% of the population of Europe tell me ??? !!!!
          Hitler destroyed the Jews fanatically and purposefully - and even then he couldn’t do it. And you offer a much larger and more complex event !! And by the way, where to evict who will accept them?
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 16: 35
            The United States will ... must ...
        3. +2
          14 November 2015 09: 47
          Quote: Taagad
          Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
          May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!

          So start with the example of your country, the legislative prohibition of Islam. And do not forget about deportation. Db! Sometimes it’s better to be silent ... Some people always ...
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 10: 01
            Quote: Alexey Lobanov
            Quote: Taagad
            Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
            May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!

            So start with the example of your country, the legislative prohibition of Islam. And do not forget about deportation. Db! Sometimes it’s better to be silent ... Some people always ...

            Yes, we would love to, you’ll start to cry first, and our left will sing to you.
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 10: 06
              Quote: atalef
              Yes, we would love to, you’ll start to cry first, and our left will sing to you.

              Well, we do not yell about Angola! bully
            2. +3
              14 November 2015 13: 30
              Not entirely clear ... you can not or do not want?
            3. 0
              14 November 2015 16: 05
              Quote: atalef
              Yes, we would love to, you’ll start to cry first, and our left will sing to you.

              Once again for the ignorant - Islam is prohibited by law in Angola.
        4. +1
          14 November 2015 10: 52
          Quote: Taagad
          May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!


          The most interesting, as always (I'm talking about Pearl Harbor and 9.11), awaits us later. For this, such things are allowed (as in Pearl Harbor) or organized (as in 9.11), so that the word "revenge" properly stuck in the head of the layman. Apparently, this time the Middle East fell to become the center of the world "turmoil", so you will have a chance to "take revenge" in the near future. In general, let God help us all - perhaps we (in a broad sense) managed to finish badly to the hot stage of the 3rd world.
        5. +4
          14 November 2015 13: 28
          It seems to me alone that there is a creeping expansion of Islam to the north? In European cities, Christmas trees and girls are already forbidden to wear shorts ... "this offends the feeling of Masulman", it is not clear how those who penetrated these countries ... And this is at home! Spineless slugs!
          And in general, Marinka for president!
        6. 0
          14 November 2015 14: 08
          May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!
          Amin ... and first of all in Palestine ...
          1. -1
            14 November 2015 14: 22
            Quote: Otshelnik
            May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!
            Amin ... and first of all in Palestine ...

            Amen or Amen (so right), but to the Palestinians, what are you going to revenge for? wink
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 19: 18
              Yes, you all correctly understood what and about whom I ....
              I must say that you sometimes do not answer my sometimes tough comments or go around sharp corners ... not bad!
        7. +1
          14 November 2015 14: 30
          Oh tolerant mother from Israel. pure nationalism. their nationalists also thought so after the deaths of those close to the French bombing and went to France. and a little higher in the comments, along with atalef, they directly aroused a tear with their philanthropy and tolerance and calls to be above all this. Bravo. you can’t hide yours?
          1. -1
            14 November 2015 14: 43
            Quote: Russiamoya
            Oh tolerant mother from Israel. pure nationalism. their nationalists also thought so after the deaths of those close to the French bombing and went to France. and a little higher in the comments, along with atalef, they directly aroused a tear with their philanthropy and tolerance and calls to be above all this. Bravo. you can’t hide yours?

            Russia is yours, what are we talking about?
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 18: 06
              not there my comment / should have been related above to Taagad
              Now is the time to mourn over the innocently dead people ...
              \ Europe has 2 options: either death, or a legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
              May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!! \
              ps Russiamay be written
      8. +3
        14 November 2015 08: 47
        These tragedies will continue and intensify until the pink-liberalistic veil from the eyes falls off the West: there is no so-called white and fluffy "correct" Islam and "radical". Islam is one, and in the Koran of this Islam the pages ooze with hatred of the Gentiles (Christians and Jews). The West will either have to recognize Islam as illegal (like fascism) and deport Muslims from its territory, or die ...
        1. +15
          14 November 2015 09: 06
          Probably you as a Jew and an Israeli are very confused by these lines of the Holy Quran (I quote a poetic translation by I.V. Porokhova, by the way recognized as the most appropriate to the Arabic original by experts in Islam who are highly respected in the Islamic world):

          Sura 95 (20). Fig tree
          In the name of God merciful, merciful!
          1. I swear by the fig tree (Mount of Jerusalem)
          Olive tree (Damascus hill),
          2. I swear by the (holy) Mount Sinai
          3. And this city,
          What is (so magnificent) safe, -
          4. We created man in the most beautiful of forms,
          5. Then We plunged him into the most insignificant state, -
          6. Apart from those who believed (to God)
          And righteous actions do:
          Countless rewards await them without reproach.
          7. Who then can object to you
          The inevitability of the Last Judgment?
          8. Is the Creator really not the best of judges ?!

          Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for war against the infidels (Christians and Jews) or show hatred of them. And everyone can interpret the lines of the Koran in their own way. In the same way, it can be argued that the Torah (Pentateuch) and the Talmud place the people of Israel above all other goys and call for contempt for goyim and even war with them - you can say so, but I will not do that. It is necessary to separate religion, faith and the so-called carriers are faith and religion. And your commentary contains both the truth (about the pink-liberal shroud in the eyes of the West) and the lie that the pages of the Quran oozing hatred towards the Gentiles (Christians and Jews) and the last statement can be considered a call to incite sectarian strife. God save us and Allah from this!
          I have the honor.
          1. +3
            14 November 2015 10: 08
            Quote: Alexander72
            Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for hatred against infidels (Christians and Jews) or show hatred for them

            The problem is not in the Quran, but in its interpretation.
            You know the old joke
            Conducting a psychiatric examination of a Serbian maniac, professor asks
            -And here, answer me, my friend, to a simple children's riddle
            --Winter and summer, one color

            --BREEDS (maniac answers)

            And say he is wrong?
          2. +1
            14 November 2015 13: 18
            Quote: Alexander72
            6. Apart from those who believed (to God)

            And with these how?
            Quote: Alexander72
            Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for war against the infidels

            Do you want me to find you? By the way, explain what gazavat? AND takiyya?
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 23: 27
              [quote] [Quote: Alexander72
              6. Apart from those who believed (to God)
              And with these how?
              Quote: Alexander72
              Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for war against the infidels
              Do you want me to find you? By the way, explain what is gazavat? And takiyya? / Quote]
              then why in other Muslim countries Christians and almost all areas of Islam coexist peacefully. for example in Lebanon. here where the country is a patchwork, abruptly Syria.
              1. +2
                14 November 2015 23: 35
                Everything for the time being, for the time being. Not everything is so rosy in Lebanon. Why are there more mosques in Kyrgyzstan than schools?
          3. 0
            14 November 2015 16: 43
            So he is acting on science, tell the truth and dilute it with a lie ...., well, so that everything is accepted as the truth ...
        2. +14
          14 November 2015 09: 14
          Yes, you do not know Islam.

          Tell me how you can "legally" prohibit faith? How many victims were there in Israel? And what, Islam was banned by law?

          The crime in this is that they try to blame others for their sins and mistakes. Who announced the policy of multiculturalism? There is no such concept in the Middle East (Islamic) countries. Who opened their borders and greeted the "refugees" with flowers? Why are Merkel and Hollande still at their posts? Who blew up the dams on the way of migrants and destroyed several states?

          A hundred dead in Paris? It's horrible. And a million (according to some reports more) who died in Islamic countries over the past 10 years - is this wonderful? I can express my sympathy when the leaders of the Western countries (USA, France, England, Germany) stand up and publicly repent for the whole mess that they created. It is they, not the Islamists. Al Qaeda and the Caliphate were created by the Americans. Hamas was created by the Israelis.

          There is another vileness. When the security forces stormed the Nord-Ost, they almost sued Russia for excessive use of force. When the French special forces stormed the cafe - is everything quiet and calm?
          1. +3
            14 November 2015 13: 20
            Islam is officially banned in Angola, whose population is 95% Christian.
            1. +3
              14 November 2015 18: 52
              I like talking with liberal democrats and adherents of Western values.

              Islam is almost banned in Australia and Japan. Perhaps there are other countries. To the question of how this relates to the principles of freedom of conscience, religion and other charms of the West - the answers are the most extremist. In general, from experience I can say that the most ardent adherents of democracy are the greatest extremists.

              Here on this site, the words were heard that Islam (the religion of almost 25% of the world's population) should be BANNED. Can we brand? Well, for example, in Germany, a yellow star was obliged to wear in due time. Maybe it is necessary to oblige wears the green crescent in the countries of "developed democracies"?

              Oh Democrats, Pharisees ....
              1. +1
                14 November 2015 19: 28
                Quote: Bakht
                Islam is almost banned in Australia and Japan. Perhaps there are other countries. To the question of how this relates to the principles of freedom of conscience, religion and other charms of the West - the answers are the most extremist.

                Yes . I liked the answer of the Australian Prime Minister.
                it’s not a ban, it’s a completely different matter. do you disagree with him?
                Immigrants, not Australians, must adapt!
                Either take it, or leave!
                I’m tired because the nation is in constant unrest, have they offended any personality or its culture.
                OUR culture appeared as a result of more than 200 years of hardships, attempts, victories, which fell to the share of millions of men and women who sought freedom. Most of US speaks English, not Arabic, Chinese, Russian, Japanese or other languages. Based on this, if you want to become part of our society - learn our language.

                Most Australians believe in God. This is not some kind of pushing the idea of ​​the Christian right wing, but a fact, because Christian men and women created this nation on Christian principles.

                It is perfectly appropriate to demonstrate this on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I would suggest that you find another country, in another part of the world, because God is part of our culture

                We will accept your faith without further questions. All we say is take OURSHA in response and live with us in peace and harmony.

                This is our country, our culture and our lifestyle and we are ready to give you every opportunity to enjoy it with us.
                But after you have finished whining, complaining and resenting our Flag, Oath, our Christian views, I would like to inspire you to take advantage of yet another Great Australian Freedom. RIGHT TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.
                1. +2
                  14 November 2015 20: 09
                  Well this is the opinion of the prime minister. Who apparently does not know that Muslims also believe in the One God. And they recognize Jesus, if not the son of God, then his messenger. Like Moses, by the way. And there is no hatred of Christians and Jews in the text of the Koran. There are interpretations of individual sectarians. By the way, recently they showed a photo of B. Netanyahu, how he shakes the handle of a wounded bearded man. And in Israeli hospitals treat militants. Moderately or not, B. Netanyahu probably knows better.

                  But I’m interested in the moment itself: is it possible to ban religion? Or expel from the country on religious grounds? Or there are some other ways.

                  Here I am following the discussion on this topic. Tell me, why did everyone cling to Islam? When the Red Brigades were engaged in terror or no Basques wanted to ban Catholicism?

                  Who knows who is fighting ISIS right now? Syrian government army? So there are all Muslims. Kurds? Most Muslims are there. Well, the Yezidis and other faiths. But on land, the vast majority of Muslims wage war on terrorists.

                  Prohibit Islam? I have not heard that such a plan in Israel. Whoever tries will receive a united front. And there really will be neither moderate nor immoderate.

                  All this nonsense.
                  1. 0
                    14 November 2015 20: 25
                    Bakht
                    This is not just the opinion of the "prime minister" - this is almost the opinion of the Anglo-Saxon Nazi, in a veiled form so far, not explicitly, but clearly making it clear that the KKK is above all.
                  2. 0
                    15 November 2015 00: 01
                    Quote: Bakht
                    Well this is the opinion of the prime minister. Who apparently does not know that Muslims also believe in the One God. And they recognize Jesus, if not the son of God, then his messenger. Like Moses, by the way. And there is no hatred of Christians and Jews in the text of the Koran.

                    I agree, but you apparently misunderstood his appeal
                    Quote: Bakht
                    I follow the discussion on this topic. Tell me, why did everyone cling to Islam? When did the Red Brigades engage in terror or did the Basques want to ban Catholicism?

                    Red brigades waged religious terror?
                    Here the question is precisely the Islamic roots of terror.
                    Quote: Bakht
                    Who knows who is fighting ISIS right now? Syrian government army? So there are all Muslims. Kurds? Most Muslims are there. Well, the Yezidis and other faiths. But on land, the vast majority of Muslims wage war on terrorists.

                    Just do not, half the truth - worse than a lie.
                    Shiites and Alawites are fighting the Sunnis.
                    And those and those Muslims, only one consider themselves Muslim - why? This is you answer
                    Quote: Bakht
                    Prohibit Islam? I have not heard that such a plan in Israel. Whoever tries will receive a united front. And there really will be neither moderate nor immoderate.

                    The Australian prime minister does not call for this, read carefully.
                    1. +1
                      15 November 2015 12: 37
                      Half-truth is always a lie. But this can be addressed to any post published here. True - it’s like a faceted glass. There are many faces. From the very beginning, I believed that this was a Shiite-Sunni war. And then everything falls on the shelves. But ... not so simple. There are Sunnis in the government army.

                      If it were just a religious war between Sunnis and Shiites, then everything would be limited to the Middle East. A ratio of 80 to 20 in favor of the Sunnis. They often operate with such numbers, but they forget geography. Most Shiites in this area. But they defend themselves and the Sunnis almost crushed them. Why? Yes, because Sunni radicalism is fueled from the outside. And do not blame the Saudis. Feed comes from Western democracies.

                      Did terror spill over to Europe? The organizers consider this to be quite justified and the number of victims within the minimum. Nothing wrong.

                      We confine ourselves to Israel, without weaving the States. Israel solved its local tasks and decided that the destruction of the Shiite Hezbollah was to his advantage. And therefore, with all my strength I helped bearded men (I specially do not write ISIS or moderate opposition). There are no moderates. There are all bearded men. He helped with logistics and airstrikes and the treatment of the wounded. Evidence of darkness. Very short-sighted position.

                      You are trying to reduce everything to Islamic terror. But find the roots of this terror and be surprised. Middle Eastern monarchies are a product of the West. Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia would not have been possible without the support of the West. Al-Qaeda, ISIS - these are all Western political technologies. Quoting the greatest politician of our day, "Do you even understand what you have done"?

                      Save the secular regime of Assad and there will be no religious war and terror. But for 4 years now, Western democracies (I don’t know whether Israel is Western democracy) are trying by all means to overthrow the secular regime and establish the rule of religious fanatics.

                      And I understood the premiere correctly. But ... a strange thing, From the height of my age, I do not consider him an intelligent person. Idiot, he is an idiot in Australia. If you accept migrants to your country, then they will come with their culture. In the third generation, it may happen. So says the science of sociology.

                      By the way, here is another example of a complete inadequate prime minister
                      Davutoglu: Assad joined the coalition with ISIS against the Syrian opposition.
                      1. 0
                        15 November 2015 17: 11
                        Masks are ripped off: Turkish intelligence chief proposes to recognize Islamic State

                        http://comments.az/topic/maski-sorvany-glava-razvedki-turcii-p/

                        Hakan Fidan summed up: “Putin's invasion of Syria is directed against Islam and international law. “Islamic state” is a reality. We look to the future with optimism. ”
              2. +1
                14 November 2015 20: 28
                So condemn the atrocities of their co-religionists. Without any BUT. Democracy is not familiar with Islam in principle, but is very convenient for its own purposes.
                1. +1
                  14 November 2015 23: 31
                  here yes. there must be a louder and more united condemnation of the leaders of the Muslim world and imams.
                2. -1
                  15 November 2015 11: 31
                  They are not ours, they are yours, and we have been condemning you for many centuries ...
                  1. +1
                    15 November 2015 13: 29
                    Why on earth do you classify howling allah akbar to ours? I understand your Wishlist, but at least some sort of logic should be.
        3. +3
          14 November 2015 10: 20
          Quote: Taagad
          The West will either have to recognize Islam as illegal (as fascism) and deport Muslims from its territory, or perish ...

          To the West - maybe. This is due to lack of culture, greed, cowardice and unscrupulousness.
          And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 11: 15
            Quote: Sergey S.
            To the West - maybe. This is due to lack of culture, greed, cowardice and unscrupulousness.
            And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.

            Sergei S. I agree with you completely and in everything. There is a wonderful saying in Russia: “They don’t go to someone else’s store with their own charter. You don’t need to introduce democracy where there is autocracy. It will only get worse. That is what they reap in the EU. And don’t let God, so that somewhere else would explode. But my heart feels it will not end in Paris. It's a pity that an innocent people are paying for the stupidity of politicians.
          2. 0
            14 November 2015 13: 21
            Quote: Sergey S.
            And in Russia, the Orthodox are already thousand years live and peace with Muslims.

            Are you kidding me?
          3. +1
            14 November 2015 19: 30
            Quote: Sergey S.
            And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.

            Come on you.
            Russia was baptized 1020 years ago.
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 19: 38
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Sergey S.
              And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.

              Come on you.
              Russia was baptized 1020 years ago.

              Why is that alright? The neighboring Bulgaria, which has close ties with Russia, converted to Islam even earlier!
              The state Volga Bulgaria was located in the Middle Volga and Prikamye, arose in the X century. In 919, the governor of the Volga Bulgaria sent an embassy to the Baghdad caliph with a proposal to send the clergy to convert the country to Islam; Ibn Fadlan visited the Volga Bulgaria with the embassy, ​​leaving valuable notes on the Volga region. In 922, Khan Almush declared Islam as the state religion of the Volga Bulgaria.

              And some scientists - bully - they say that before the adoption of Orthodoxy, Prince Vladimir managed to convert to Islam! what
              According to the famous Turkologist O. Pritsak, Vladimir, being the Novgorod prince, converted to Islam, but then, in 988, he baptized himself and ordered Russia to be baptized, although already in 1014 the Bulgarian Kagan Muemin II again bent him to Islam. Pritsak builds his assumptions based on the work of the Arab historian Al-Marwazi (1120) and the set of Bulgarian annals “Jagfar Tarihe” (1680) and this is indirectly confirmed by the following facts:
              - Vladimir married the daughter of the Bulgarian Hagan, and according to Islamic laws, a Muslim woman can only marry a Muslim.
              - Favorite sons of Vladimir were Boris and Gleb, born of the Bulgarian.
              - Before the death of Vladimir, Boris and Gleb were the only supporters of his father and died at the hands of Svyatopolk's older brother, nicknamed "The Accursed."
              - The canonization of the first Russian saints - Vladimir, Boris and Gleb took place for a long time and indecisively.

              So it turns out even more than a thousand years! bully hi
        4. +2
          14 November 2015 15: 05
          there is a story. a few years ago (at the height of the Wahhabis in the Caucasus) I went with my children to another city. not far from Dagestan. slippery, icy road. tires did not have time to change. suddenly two hares jumped out on the brakes of a car I skidded off the track and ran into a fallen tree. so: in broad daylight, cars go and take off the telephone. 2 cars suddenly stop full of faces (as they say) of Caucasian nationality. By the way it’s clear that I'm Russian). so they ran up, made sure that no one was hurt, went to the car, disconnected the battery. they removed a car from a fallen tree, caused an emergency gang and, having waited for my relatives, left. everything happened pretty quickly, plus I was in a state of shock - I was scared for the children. while everyone came to their senses understood that they forgot to ask: who helped, say thanks. voooot! more than 10 years have passed I remember and thank them. I believed and believe that radicalism comes from a lack of education, just do not need for example the guard. and I advise you to read the Torah and the Qur'an and to each for yourself and compare
          1. -1
            14 November 2015 15: 13
            Quote: Russiamoya
            there is a story. a few years ago (at the height of the Wahhabis in the Caucasus) I went with my children to another city. not far from Dagestan. slippery, icy road. tires did not have time to change. suddenly two hares jumped out on the brakes of a car I skidded off the track and ran into a fallen tree. so: in broad daylight, cars go and take off the telephone. 2 cars suddenly stop full of faces (as they say) of Caucasian nationality. By the way it’s clear that I'm Russian). so they ran up, made sure that no one was hurt, went to the car, disconnected the battery. they removed a car from a fallen tree, caused an emergency gang and, having waited for my relatives, left. everything happened pretty quickly, plus I was in a state of shock - I was scared for the children. while everyone came to their senses understood that they forgot to ask: who helped, say thanks. voooot!

            tell me, is this an ordinary case or does it always happen this way?

            Quote: Russiamoya
            and I advise you to read the Torah and the Qur'an and to each for yourself and compare

            What to compare?
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 18: 15
              / tell me, is this an ordinary case, or does it always happen this way? /
              I can’t say, I didn’t conduct polls. I’m talking about myself thinking, at a time when everything seemed to be unambiguous.
              / What to compare? /
              all. I turned it to all sides of the dispute, and not just to you
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      10. +1
        14 November 2015 08: 56
        Quote: vyinemeynen

        Charlie ebdo are we waiting?


        Who exactly is in flight is the notorious "Charlie", which faced a choice - either to "joke sharply" about the executed Parisians, which is fraught with unpleasant consequences (you never know who from the relatives of the victims will come to cut out the next composition of the editorial board) or shut up their opinion there, where he belongs, giving up the declared principle - "you can joke about anything" ...
      11. +1
        14 November 2015 09: 31
        Condolences to the French. Have the Shorley cartoons already come out?
      12. 0
        14 November 2015 09: 53
        It's a pity for people, but the state of France has long run into such a thing ... This is an occasion for a more dense invasion of Syria
      13. +1
        14 November 2015 09: 57
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        Charlie ebdo are we waiting?


        Charlie Ebdo dies with a laugh, drawing pictures of French terrorists falling under bullets. God - not a fryer - sees and remembers everything.
        Hollande and Merkel, Russia in the person of Putin and Lavrov warned you more than once about the possibility of what happened and offered you a hand in the fight against this evil, but you arrogantly rejected this hand and proclaimed your special (European) tolerance, so you got what you got.
        The Russians, like no one else, know the bitterness of losses from terrorist attacks, so we sympathize and condole the French in their grief.
      14. +2
        14 November 2015 10: 11
        But it’s a pity to them that when they are killed they become good. As they say, they fought NATO and ran. An interesting journalist will also release a caricature, al how. The more terror there is, the sooner they will realize that digging a hole for others is dangerous for themselves.
      15. +1
        14 November 2015 10: 16
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!

        Yes, sorry. But .. already somehow by inertia. I no longer have sincere pity for these people. It's about the dead, either good or not. And about those living, for whom the murder of two hundred innocent people is just "Charlie", I have no printed words. What, the explosions in Paris claimed some more innocent lives than in that ill-fated plane ??? You're just an ebdo.
        1. +4
          14 November 2015 10: 32
          Quote: north
          Quote: vyinemeynen
          A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!

          This is about the dead either good or nothing.

          It’s best to tell the truth. The quote was interpreted in antiquity. And this quote went for a walk around the world. In its original form, it sounded a little different.

          "About the dead, nothing but the truth"

          Tetkorax was once asked:
          - How should one talk about the dead? Either good or nothing?
          Tetcorax replied:
          - People do not need silence; people need truth. But silence is still better than a lie.
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 16: 10
            Do not find fault with this inaccuracy of the wording, the essence of what I said, you surely understood. The magazine "Charlie" has millions of copies in Europe (this is not a joke, the information is publicly available). So many Europeans agree with the publication and laugh disgustingly at the death of innocent people in the sky over Sinai. I don’t remember that the Russians would gloat over the death of civilians, wherever they were. I have no pity for this kind of public (who are the Souis Charlie).
            1. +2
              14 November 2015 17: 41
              I do not quibble. I love accuracy. This wording is sore. I, like you, will speak ill of any individual. Whether he is alive or dead. I just can't stand that phrase. According to her about Hitler, either good or nothing. Or Gorbachev (I do not distinguish them very much). Just darling .... Dogs love family. And hands to the elbow in blood.

              The French (and not only the French, all of Europe) received what they should have received. I am simply surprised that they got Ebdo so early.

              Recently, we all witnessed how "kindred spirits" in Ukraine also rejoiced at the deaths of people in the Moscow metro or over Sinai in an airplane.

              Those who went to the concert are certainly not to blame. But this is the Western principle of collective responsibility. It was the West that has always acted like this. The people are responsible for state policy. Simple people. Hence the carpet bombing of Europe, Vietnam and Yugoslavia. Hence the sanctions against the Russian Federation. We will punish ALL citizens of the country, because their rulers are bad. The Islamists adopted what Europeans practiced in practice. The collective responsibility of the citizens of the country if someone does not like the policy of the state.

              For that fought for it and ran.
              1. -1
                14 November 2015 23: 29
                Why not remember karma? It appeared in all its glory.
      16. +3
        14 November 2015 11: 16
        Charlie ... ebdo ... are all the little things.
        Sorry, speak?
        And when the women in labor were killed in Budenovsk, did Paris take to the streets too? Or London ... or Washington ...?
        They got what they fought for - liberal tolerance, which is synonymous with permissiveness!
        And we got crazy in the Eltsin time, when we tried to "plant" their stinking "values".
        Only one thing worries, how much is Russia itself ready to repel such threats?
        Times are different, but the spirit of eagerness, bribery, indifference has not yet eroded from the blood of our law enforcers.
        So ... hope for God, and row to the shore ... laughing
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 15: 16
          No dear, it not the little things.
          On January 14, 2015, the next 1178 issue of the magazine with a circulation of 3 million copies was released. In Paris, it was sold out in 15 minutes. Thus, the magazine set an absolute record for the entire history of the French press. In the future (Thursday-Friday) it was planned to increase the circulation to 5 million copies. With a prepress add up to 7 million.
          In early February, the issue of the magazine was temporarily suspended, but resumed on February 24 (the previous issue reached a circulation of 8 million)

          Here is the number of people in Europe - active Charlie. Millions!
      17. 0
        14 November 2015 11: 48
        Now in Europe will begin to panic and fear of Muslims and refugees from Syria. Europe is waiting for a wave of violence against Muslims, it’s worth waiting for it all the more so that Breivik’s heirs will appear all over Europe soon, and I think that this was what the terrorists wanted to put under their banner the refugees from the Muslims who live there. Here we can expect the birth of a new Hitler (but a little bit tolerant). But it’s a pity for the people, and the commandos who died during the execution. And where did the special services look ??? because of their negligence, so many people died.
      18. 0
        14 November 2015 12: 05
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
        Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
        Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

        Removed from the tongue, there is nothing to add. I feel sorry for people!
        But the question is, have these hackers already begun to draw their crafts, remains open. Although, it seems to me, they will not draw ..
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 23: 30
          no, of course, circulations will fall, or even completely cover the bench.
      19. +1
        14 November 2015 13: 26
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
        Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
        Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

        I worry that this show will continue! Puppeteers across the ocean, people will come up with a fairy tale, type people shap. After all, only Russia is to blame for all the troubles! Although here on our website many colleagues, including your humble servant, wrote: “A storm will break, Europe you are on the look out for!” But apparently the mind of Europe swam with fat! No matter how cruel, but can this tragedy sober them up? PS I offer my condolences to the victims and their families. We in Russia know what losses are: blown up houses in Nalchik and Moscow, Nord-Ost and Beslan. Remember ...
      20. +1
        14 November 2015 13: 29
        Reinforcements for 1500 soldiers throughout Paris? What are Europeans completely impoverished? This is a drop in the ocean. soldier
      21. 0
        14 November 2015 17: 46
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

        And the second: Monsieur Sarkozy, and you bombed Libya on crap ?????
      22. 0
        14 November 2015 18: 36
        Blasphemy test for Charlie's geeks. Now let them increase their circulation by 1000 times. I do not gloat. It's just that I'm NOT CHARLIE already.
      23. 0
        14 November 2015 19: 39
        And why is the vaunted French foreign legion still not wet the Isis in Iraq and Syria? In my opinion, they are just for this purpose and are intended. soldier
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 23: 32
          maybe just afraid? and not so much praised.
    2. +8
      14 November 2015 06: 14
      Can think they will be raised! am
      1. +4
        14 November 2015 06: 56
        It is unlikely. It’s just cynical that some bad people committed this act, knowing perfectly well who for what purpose and on whose team committed the attack.
    3. gop
      +3
      14 November 2015 06: 14
      fuss went
      1. +13
        14 November 2015 06: 19
        Quote: Gop
        fuss went

        this is just the beginning ... a light breeze. sorry for the common people, but they want to beat the Olland against the wall with their head off, however, as well as all those stupid r.y.l., standing with posters: "Welkam!"
        1. +1
          14 November 2015 07: 22
          Here you are right! How many "saboteurs" with refugees have leaked there ... Enough for a small army, enough to put the whole of Europe on the ears of grace. Let's see what they say now about unification in the fight against ISIS ...
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          1. +5
            14 November 2015 09: 02
            Quote: Kos_kalinki9
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Quote: Gop
            fuss went

            this is just the beginning ... a light breeze. sorry for the common people, but they want to beat the Olland against the wall with their head off, however, as well as all those stupid r.y.l., standing with posters: "Welkam!"

            Sorry for the common people? And why did the common people not put up resistance to the German occupation, why now they "stupidly" tolerate their "presidents" who put the country under their old uncle? This is how the French met the Germans.
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            2. +1
              14 November 2015 09: 10
              Yes, I specifically looked for a photo without Stalingrad. The French did not want to step on the "sore" corn once again.
              1. +5
                14 November 2015 09: 31
                Quote: Kos_kalinki9
                Yes, I specifically looked for a photo without Stalingrad. The French did not want to step on the "sore" corn once again.


                Why delicacy? Only in the lessons of history, you can understand the present ...

                Reference: http://topwar.ru/5524-neznakomaya-franciya-francuzy-protiv-sssr.html
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                  14 November 2015 10: 07
                  Quote: Good I
                  Quote: Kos_kalinki9
                  Yes, I specifically looked for a photo without Stalingrad. The French did not want to step on the "sore" corn once again.


                  Why delicacy? Only in the lessons of history, you can understand the present ...

                  Reference: http://topwar.ru/5524-neznakomaya-franciya-francuzy-protiv-sssr.html

                  So let them learn. Why prompt? When through his tripe reaches the mind, it is better to digest.
    4. +23
      14 November 2015 06: 14
      Well, now again there will be a bunch of European snot, the second episode "I am Charlie"! And it was not necessary to climb into Syria with the American ghouls! And by the way, Russia warned France that it would be so. Then they laughed at the Russians.
    5. +18
      14 November 2015 06: 15
      I suspect that they did it theirs, and not foolishly, but under the control of specific services.

      Is it hard to believe?

      And here I am, as I see it, this is my personal, subjective, paranoid version.
      The crowd of migrants rushing and rushing, tolerance does not allow them to spread rot (mericosa will strangle anyone for their project), the locals are no longer just grumbling, they are already starting to howl ...
      Power can not, does not want, and simply can not control. The situation is stalemate ...
      But!!! If you anger a crowd and direct it against another crowd, it can very much work.
      And the most important thing is not to find the guilty, you just need not to lose control over this "People's Wrath".

      ps Of course there are many options, but I somehow liked this one more.

      ps / ps And to find artists is not a problem, not one 404 country is rich in empty-headed ones, they are pretty wandering around the World.
      1. +3
        14 November 2015 07: 23
        It is also possible ... Many benefit ...
        1. +3
          14 November 2015 08: 02
          No matter how regrettable, no matter how sorry the people, but this attack should pour water on our mill. After such a benefit, hardly anyone wants 50 tons of weapons to be dumped by unknown people in Syria. And a hundred times they’ll think about PZRK. And a thousand over whether it is worth giving money to bandits. And as for Assad, a turn may happen - he is the one who really fights ISIS with a gun at the ready. But we must wait for accusations of involvement of the FSB (Where can we go without us?) To this abomination.
          1. +2
            14 November 2015 08: 31
            Regrettably, sorry for the people ...

            All state policy "machines" run on a specific fuel:
            - This is the fate and life of ordinary people.
            1. +4
              14 November 2015 09: 38
              I fully agree with the user Truth.
              This attack is provoked.
              It cannot be ruled out that the go-ahead was given by Fsh. Just on the eve of the next international meeting on Syria, the states decided to hold additional consultations with their mutual friend.
              Cynically? Yes, but that’s the handwriting of the states. They did not spare their citizens when they arranged 11.09.11/XNUMX/XNUMX. - Remember how the towers collapsed - it was a picture of the destruction of buildings prepared for demolition. The United States needs to expand public opinion in its favor, protect the terrorists they have grown (the money invested should bring income), to form public opinion under such a terrible terrorist attack — it costs nothing — shocked people will accept any slogan under the counter-terrorism sauce as the truth. The United States needs to send troops to Syria in order to get the terrorists out of the attack — and they will push through such a decision, and for this, a terrorist attack was arranged.
              1. +2
                14 November 2015 10: 12
                Gaddafi had good intelligence. What prevents his supporters from organizing a "retaliation action"? States are not cold not hot. And they won't get into Syria. Two elephants in one shop will not fit. The risk of a collision with Russia is too great.
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      3. 0
        14 November 2015 09: 19
        too difficult to control a half-country crowd at least?

        See 404 country or Romania (with Ceausescu) ...
        several thousand thugs easily overthrew the power / police / SBU / army, and now imagine that every Kiev citizen (2,867 million people) would just spit on the Maidan, the Maidan would be washed away simply ...
        And you are a crowd controlled in the back of the country, well, well ...
    6. +33
      14 November 2015 06: 15
      Quote: vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen Today, 06:14 AM New
      A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
      Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
      Charlie ebdo are we waiting?
      1. +5
        14 November 2015 06: 36
        Urgently throw on charliehebdo.fr, let them publish it immediately, don’t ask for a fee ..
    7. +23
      14 November 2015 06: 16
      My condolences to the dead and their families !!!
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      2. +6
        14 November 2015 08: 41
        I join in condolences. uncomplicated died again.
    8. +2
      14 November 2015 06: 16
      The number of refugees in one country should be limited, especially since France is actively fighting terrorism. It would be strange if there were no Jews among those who entered France. Another issue is the work of the special services. Apparently, it turned out to be unsatisfactory.
      1. +7
        14 November 2015 06: 22
        It's not about refugees. A lot of Frenchmen were in Syria and Iraq. What did they do there? Those who blew up this filthy Charlie at one time are also, by the way, from the same ones. But the fact that refugees will start to shake now and this will cause further escalation is obvious.
        1. +35
          14 November 2015 06: 57
          It's not about refugees.

          The West will curse the day when it destroyed Muammar Gaddafi more than once, which caused the puppy delight of "Mad Clinton" He looks them in the eyes !!! Who is next ?? England ?? Germany ?? Time will tell ....
          1. +3
            14 November 2015 10: 04
            I respect Gaddafi more and more, there was a smart man, if he hadn’t rushed about like ... then Russia would have covered him like Assad
          2. +2
            14 November 2015 11: 53
            Quote: Persistent
            It's not about refugees.

            The West will curse the day when it destroyed Muammar Gaddafi more than once, which caused the puppy delight of "Mad Clinton" He looks them in the eyes !!! Who is next ?? England ?? Germany ?? Time will tell ....

            Gaddafi's main problem is that he thought that Europe was solving something. NOTHING!
        2. +2
          14 November 2015 09: 35
          Quote: domokl
          It's not about refugees. A lot of Frenchmen were in Syria and Iraq. What did they do there? Those who blew up this filthy Charlie at one time are also, by the way, from the same ones. But the fact that refugees will start to shake now and this will cause further escalation is obvious.


          Absolutely right. Moreover, all this is the legacy of the colonial and "thoughtful" national policy ...
      2. +7
        14 November 2015 06: 36
        Quote: dchegrinec
        there were no Judas among those who entered France.

        It turned out. But apparently not enough, now everyone who came along will be bugged by everyone, both the authorities and the local population.
        But hatred is mutual and, as a result, ISIS will have more units in Europe.
        The process began - in French Calais, unidentified persons set fire to a refugee camp. Information about the dead or injured has not yet been reported.
        1. +2
          14 November 2015 07: 33
          Quote: GRAY
          ... now all the comers will be bugged by everyone, both the authorities and the local population.

          It is unlikely that they are too tolerant, cowardly and prefer comfort to the fight against terrorists.
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 07: 59
            Quote: Homo
            It is unlikely that they are too tolerant, cowardly and prefer comfort to the fight against terrorists.

            Do not scratch everyone under one comb, not all of them are like that, the camp in Calais was not burned down by itself.
            In addition, the 150 victims can hardly be called "comfort". Terrorists unambiguously rocked this swamp, and even if the authorities do not begin to tighten the screws for the refugees, there will be radicals among the French for everyone.
        2. 0
          14 November 2015 10: 28
          It is high time and so it is necessary to do everywhere with refugee camps.
          I wonder how quickly it comes to them that refugees need to be evicted, not allowed in.
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 10: 44
            Quote: retardu
            It is high time and so it is necessary to do everywhere with refugee camps.
            I wonder how quickly it comes to them that refugees need to be evicted, not allowed in.

            Refugees are not to blame, those who let them go are to blame, and without any filtering.
            Refugees welcom, Che.
          2. +2
            14 November 2015 13: 37
            Burn refugee camps? But nothing that there are children, women. Do they carry out terrorist attacks? You can’t accept men as refugees. It’s bad in their country - he took a weapon and went to fight! All refugees are concerned, including from Ukraine!
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      3. +7
        14 November 2015 06: 46
        Quote: dchegrinec
        France is actively fighting terrorism.

        Do you call France's actions a "fight"?
        Nanai boys are fighting - oh, how beautiful!
        Or do you call the fight licking ass tanned president, the owner of these killers?
        What, then, do Russia with the Syrians?
        The cause of this terror is the United States, and some France is already a consequence, and if the United States is not stopped in the production of killers and chaos, then we all can only live our lives in fear under the CIA Damocles sword and terrorists with a smoked president this year around the world prove that the Russian plane and the French cinema are just a prelude to real terror.
        1. +2
          14 November 2015 07: 00
          Quote: hydrox
          The reason for this terror is the United States, and some kind of France is already a consequence

          And Hollande knows about this and Merkel, but they go on about the United States, and innocent people suffer because of this.
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 09: 43
            Quote: GRAY
            And Hollande knows about this and Merkel, but they go on about the United States, and innocent people suffer because of this.

            In the final analysis, and the states that are following the course of the United States as a whole, such events do not bode well.
            Therefore, there will be demand from their leaders ...
            Unfortunately not the one they deserve.
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 10: 02
              Quote: Good Me
              In the final analysis, and the states that are following the course of the United States as a whole, such events do not bode well.

              Pindos will certainly take advantage of the situation, will push through the ground operation - well, ISIS attacked the NATO country ... The United States will try to force the states under their control to fight for American interests naturally.
              1. 0
                14 November 2015 10: 12
                Quote: GRAY
                Pindos will certainly take advantage of the situation, will push through the ground operation - well, ISIS attacked the NATO country ... The United States will try to force the states under their control to fight for American interests naturally.


                So let's see which of the states you have not named do not realize that what happened, the result of their compromising policies, will once again go on about the United States ...
                1. +1
                  14 November 2015 10: 31
                  Quote: Good Me
                  once again go on about the United States ..

                  The first groundwork is already there, Obama has already called what is happening "an attack on all of humanity." Hints, so far still subtle.
                  The media also work out their bread:
                  French journalists equated the attacks in Paris to declare war on France. Some media outlets wrote directly about this on Saturday, Interfax reports.

                  “This time it's a war,” the daily Le Parisien stated. The position of colleagues is shared by the publication Le Figaro, which published on the front page a summary of the tragic events under the heading: “The war in the center of Paris”.

                  In their materials, French journalists unanimously called for the unity of the country and the population in the face of terrorist threats.

                  “France will be able to remain united and act as a united front,” the article says Le Parisien.

                  “It is impossible not to connect these bloody events with the hostilities in the Middle East. France plays a role in them. And she should continue to act in the same way without hesitation, ”Interfax quotes Liberation morning publication.
    9. +3
      14 November 2015 06: 17
      Maybe after that it will reach them that the terrorists do not care about kavo kill or will Charlie draw pictures again?
    10. +4
      14 November 2015 06: 17
      Let’s see what Charlie will draw there. They kissed the jackals.
      1. +6
        14 November 2015 06: 31
        Quote: Humpty
        Let's see what Charlie draws there.

        What does Charlie have to do with it?
        "Tse Europa" with tolerance, multiculturalism and freedom of movement.
        Russia warned that it would be EXACTLY THIS if Europe did not understand whose side to take!
        Thanks to the States for feeding the ISIS terrorist bastard and Ukrainian fascists to our heads. That terrorists, that ukrofashists - are engaged in the same thing, only ISIS - are just bandits, and ukrofashists do this as part of a semi-state.
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 09: 58
          Quote: hydrox
          What does Charlie have to do with it?
          "Tse Europa" with tolerance, multiculturalism and freedom of movement.


          You forgot to mention the notorious "freedom of speech" and stubborn tolerance, as an element of "Tse Europ".

          And Charlie, as a component of these "pious virtues", fits well into the general chaos.
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 11: 35
            Quote: Good Me
            And Charlie, as a component of these "pious virtues", fits well into the general chaos.

            good Not just fits - this little magazine is an integral part of this chaos! hi
            1. +1
              14 November 2015 11: 42
              Quote: andj61
              Quote: Good Me
              And Charlie, as a component of these "pious virtues", fits well into the general chaos.

              good Not just fits - this little magazine is an integral part of this chaos! hi

              Hi Andrew.
              Of course you know my attitude to the French and France
              I do not condone the killing of the innocent. but going out to the demonstration - WE'RE ALL CHARLIS, think the same thing.
              They probably think that having passed the crowd and with the slogans along the Field of Mars, they will defeat terror.
              Although the story comes back, so they fought fascism
              But for some reason, not only were they among the victorious countries, but also among the permanent members of the UN Security Council.
              1. +1
                14 November 2015 17: 00
                Quote: atalef
                They probably think that having passed the crowd and with the slogans along the Field of Mars, they will defeat terror.
                Although the story comes back, so they fought fascism
                But for some reason, not only were they among the victorious countries, but also among the permanent members of the UN Security Council.

                hi Why were the winners and members of the Security Council - this is understandable. Stalin insisted on De Gaulle as the leader of post-war France, as opposed to Britain, while in China Chiang Kai-shek was in charge. True, De Gaulle wanted to rule the dictator, although the French themselves later called on him.
                To show solidarity with victims through demonstrations is certainly good! It’s only bad if this ends the fight against terror!
                Quote: Good Me
                You are following the right path, gentlemen. The whole herd, into the abyss.

                "We will go the other way" V. I. Ulyanov (Lenin)

                hi good
            2. +1
              14 November 2015 12: 42
              Quote: andj61
              Not just fits - this little magazine is an integral part of this chaos!

              I did not consider it necessary to further develop the thought. With the magazine, and so everything is clear, without additional explanations. However, as with the course of the European Union.

              You are following the right path, gentlemen. The whole herd, into the abyss.

              "We will go the other way"
              V.I. Ulyanov (Lenin)
    11. gop
      +4
      14 November 2015 06: 17
      paid for airstrikes at the tank farm
    12. +12
      14 November 2015 06: 17
      With bitterness, it remains to state that for terrorists there are no differences on ethnic grounds. Anyone and anywhere can be their victims ...
      The most sincere condolences to the families and relatives of the victims and to the entire French people ...
    13. +13
      14 November 2015 06: 17
      Vile. Ordinary people who just rested died. Why didn’t the special services work in France? After all, they warned of possible attacks.
      I condole with the families of the dead and injured. But anyway, I’m sure that there can be no agreements with terrorists. Only destruction. Complete, to the last villain.
      1. +6
        14 November 2015 06: 36
        Quote: domokl
        Why didn’t the special services work in France?

        They are not doing this. People who are opposed to subordinating Europe to the interests of the United States and Israel, or the Communists (not mummers, but real ones) are always under the hood, as unreliable.
        And US-raised Islamic terrorism is a welcome guest in Europe.
      2. 0
        14 November 2015 11: 41
        Quote: domokl
        Vile. Ordinary people who just rested died. Why didn’t the special services work in France? After all, they warned of possible attacks.

        It is quite possible that they weren’t specially prepared. In one place - they simply blew up, in another - they shot, in the concert hall - they ran in and also started shooting, but the majority managed to escape, not many people were taken hostage. There was obvious preparation in Nord-Ost and Beslan, and here, according to the first reports and available information, they spoke without preparation, spontaneously. It is extremely difficult to prevent this, especially since the breeding ground for such terrorists in France is very extensive.
        And people feel sorry!
      3. 0
        14 November 2015 14: 12
        Quote: domokl
        Vile. Ordinary people who just rested died. Why didn’t the special services work in France? After all, they warned of possible attacks.

        unfortunately, preventing such an attack is much more difficult than organizing it. you cannot unload every truck for inspection. with performers is even more difficult. would be accurate information is another matter. and warnings about the possibility ... there is an element of chance. may intercept, or maybe not.
    14. +7
      14 November 2015 06: 18
      My condolences to normal people! Well, how is that magazine Charlie? Caricatures will be born?
    15. +4
      14 November 2015 06: 21
      When is Charlie's turn? I will be happy to draw a caricature of this funny event.
    16. +21
      14 November 2015 06: 21
      “You are bombing a wall that has not blocked the flow of African migration to Europe, a wall that has stopped al-Qaeda terrorists. This wall was Libya. You destroyed her. You are. For thousands of migrants from Africa, for the support of al-Qaeda to burn you in hell. And so it will be. ”
      from an open letter to the torn leader of the Libyan Jamahiriya (11 of May 2011 of the year, published in the newspaper Tomorrow)
    17. +7
      14 November 2015 06: 22
      Sincerely condolences to the French people.
      I believe that Charlie Ebdo will also express his condolences with the help of his wonderful cartoons.
    18. +2
      14 November 2015 06: 22
      People are very sorry, but caricatures need to be drawn, the debt is red by payment.
    19. wk
      +13
      14 November 2015 06: 22
      it is alarming that all the terrorists were eliminated .... no one was detained ... this despite the fact that the assault lasted five hours and, according to the witnesses of the event, most of the victims were before the assault .... in addition, a parallel attack in the stadium with the presence of F Olanda! .... it is very doubtful that ISIS carried out such a large-scale attack without anyone's help .... rather, ISIS helped in the attack of one of the world's most powerful intelligence services .... WHAT is the question? ... the choice of countries is not very big ... USA, UK, Israel, France ..... less likely Germany ...

      The Kingdom of Heaven is for all innocently murdered! .... the crimes of IMPERIALISM continue!
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 06: 25
        one kind of took
        1. wk
          +1
          14 November 2015 06: 33
          Quote: vyinemeynen
          one kind of took

          Can you imagine that the chain to the customer for such terrorist attacks is more complicated than the DNA molecule ... even if they took 7x, then the chances are very small .... everything is chopped off at the level of the "foremen" ... but the fact that so little captured is suggestive .. ..
          1. +3
            14 November 2015 06: 39
            Does anyone at least surprise us with what happened?
            1. +1
              14 November 2015 06: 41
              Quote: vyinemeynen
              Does anyone at least surprise us with what happened?

              Terrorist attacks in the world have long ceased to surprise anyone.
              1. +5
                14 November 2015 06: 45
                It surprises me that only now and not earlier request
          2. +3
            14 November 2015 09: 25
            Did you take a lot on the Nord-Ost or Beslan?
            people going to kill people - fanatics, suicide bombers, so that at least someone was taken is already good for the French special services
    20. +5
      14 November 2015 06: 22
      It is a pity for ordinary people who have become hostages not only of terrorists, but also of unprincipled and spineless politicians of the European Union.
    21. +9
      14 November 2015 06: 23
      Condolences to the relatives of the victims, but given Charlie's mocking mockery of our victims in Sinai, it is impossible to refrain from asking, will there be pornographic cartoons from Charlie?
      In essence: France actively supported the US efforts to create a "zone of chaos" in the Middle East; it is no less active in pursuing a migration policy based on the idea of ​​exploiting guest workers to reduce the cost of business.
      Now France is paying for such a policy.
      Moreover, these are still flowers, the berries will be in front.
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 06: 37
        Quote: Odyssey
        no less active is it pursuing a migration policy based on the idea of ​​operating migrant workers reducing the cost of business expenses.

        Dear! What kind of business do you write? Where can adequately apply the "illiterate, curved hands"? Is it possible to replace a qualified builder, repairman, turner, fitter "purple black man?" This is a business of "rank"? And the streets are revenge, so there is already one broom per meter of sidewalk.
        1. +5
          14 November 2015 06: 56
          Quote: devis
          Dear! What kind of business do you write? Where can adequately apply the "illiterate, curved hands"? Is it possible to replace a qualified builder, repairman, turner, fitter "purple black man?" This is a business of "rank"? And the streets are revenge, so there is already one broom per meter of sidewalk

          After World War II, Western countries made a strategic decision to dismantle their own working class, which eliminates the social revolution.
          1) Production (except for the military-industrial complex and energy) began to be taken out to the "third world countries"
          2) Unskilled jobs in Western countries began to be carried out by migrants who were given the green light.
          The own population of the West is thus turning into a "middle class", the remnants of the working class are turning into a "labor aristocracy."
          With regard to the qualifications, you will not need migrants to associate only with the "purple Negro" .Russkie, Chinese or Poles for them are the same, "Gaster" as araby.U all have their own niche in the market, and among the Arabs mechanics abound.
          1. +2
            14 November 2015 08: 56
            You know, Russians are valued somewhat lower than "lilac". My friend tried to settle down in Australia. He was refused. Privately, "if you were a Negro, or an Arab ..." - I can't vouch for such a meaning. He was not even allowed into England at all - something in his behavior at the interview did not like it.
    22. +17
      14 November 2015 06: 24
      I remember: when we had a "Nord Ost" Westerners right through their teeth, squeakily expressed their condolences. Western reporters did not giggle in their reports from the scene. And how much g ... it was poured out on our special forces ... Now here they are in a similar situation. But. In Russia, the attitude to this event is completely different: sincere sympathy and empathy. Well, where is more humanism? Still in Europe?
      1. +2
        14 November 2015 06: 34
        Well, Europe has humanism, its not ours. Ours have always been an order of magnitude higher than their love of love. We are not starting new wars. We strive to help our people as far as possible .. And do not pour shit on all the heaps.
    23. +8
      14 November 2015 06: 24
      It’s not regrettable to say, it’s Gaddafi who climbs them sideways, come on to them, those who gave the order for lawlessness, but ordinary people, although people lived in Libya and Syria too.
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 08: 40
        At all times, ordinary people have suffered for the actions of governments.
    24. +3
      14 November 2015 06: 25
      A monstrous provocation with huge victims, everything in the style of amers, igil or other Islamic essence is not important, to crush the Europeans the main goal, especially the attack on the face of the first persons of France and Germany.
    25. +10
      14 November 2015 06: 26
      Got idiots ?! People die because of your "pederalism" and so on; oland-shoot yourself if you are a man, although what a man you are ...
    26. +4
      14 November 2015 06: 26
      The barmalei did a terrible thing. A huge number of victims. Condolences to the families of the victims.
      The French were not ready for a terrorist attack. There are few security cameras, the police are not ready, the special services slammed. Played out in multiculturalism.
      1. +4
        14 November 2015 06: 37
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        . There are few security cameras, the police are not ready, the special services slammed. Played out in multiculturalism.

        I emphasize more surveillance cameras in Paris than in any other capital of the world. They were very proud of it. Everything is under control.
        But the fact that specialists suckers agree.
    27. 0
      14 November 2015 06: 28
      Tomorrow, after tomorrow, expect another terrorist attack, and condolences to ordinary people. It is time to loudly object to their authority for its foreign policy.
    28. +2
      14 November 2015 06: 28
      Nicolas would have to poke his nose into this theater and give a subracker.
    29. +4
      14 November 2015 06: 29
      I do not want to croak, but if the other day this happens in Germany and the UK, then enlightenment may come, albeit later, all European.
      1. +4
        14 November 2015 07: 22
        Quote: Bort Radist
        I don’t want to croak, but if the other day it happens in Germany and the UK

        This can happen anywhere, including ours, unfortunately. Only through the joint efforts of all countries can evil be defeated. How the brown fascist plague was defeated in the last century.
    30. +4
      14 November 2015 06: 29
      Well. Of course, ordinary people in France feel sorry. They have the deepest condolences but .... It's time to collect stones for Iraq Libya Syria .. what they hoped they thought it would carry. Not carried. Amerikosy look maliciously done their business with the wrong hands, let them and we pay far. Well, let's see what cartoons the ebdo will release now.
    31. +6
      14 November 2015 06: 31
      I have several options
      1) Revenge for the aircraft carrier Charles De Zero, which, regardless of the Anglo-Saxon coalition bombed the IS
      2) Informational pumping before the ground operation in Syria
      3) In fact, the cunning Igilovtsy did everything alone
      PS my condolences, a terrorist attack is always grief ...
    32. +19
      14 November 2015 06: 31
      You have to pay for everything! Let them say thank you to the main terrorist with a peace prize!
    33. +6
      14 November 2015 06: 31
      Condolences to the families of the deceased ...
      France was convinced from its own experience that terrorists are not divided into good and bad.
      You don’t need to fan the neighbor’s fire and rejoice at it by praising and supporting arsonists if they and you don’t like the owner of the house, even if your house is far away ... very far, overseas and you have a lot of firefighters at work ... sparks will fly there too ... or they will be reported, the flame may flare up with you, which we are all observing now.
    34. 0
      14 November 2015 06: 34
      All attention to Charlie !!!
    35. +7
      14 November 2015 06: 34
      A terrorist attack is always terrible, especially since it is usually directed against civilians. Therefore, first condolences.
      Maybe now France and the whole of Europe will finally understand that dividing terrorists into bad and "good", flirting with them, and even more so providing them with weapons (and all at the "request" of the United States) will not lead to good. It is time for Europe to live with its own mind, and not be guided by the State Department. I would like to say one more thing. It may not be correct, but I would like to remind you of the capture of Nord-Ost. Then, all the Western media, choking, trumpeted about the non-professionalism of our special services, again accused Russia of carrying out a CTO in Chechnya. At the same time, there was practically no condolences from the leaders of Western countries. What we see now. Sincere condolences from the President and citizens of our country, sympathy and empathy. These are the contrasts between far-fetched tolerance and a simple Russian soul. Once again, my condolences to the French.
    36. 0
      14 November 2015 06: 37
      Halloween, Friday the 13th, .........?
      1. +2
        14 November 2015 06: 43
        The date is also subtly noted, the organizer is clearly not a Muslim.
        1. +1
          14 November 2015 14: 22
          shtatovtsy as always usa this country terrorist number 1
      2. +3
        14 November 2015 06: 44
        Quote: Bort Radist
        Halloween, Friday the 13th, .........?

        You shouldn’t be so. It’s definitely not the time to joke.
        PS Especially on Friday the 13th.
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 06: 54
          Quote: devis
          You shouldn’t be so. It’s definitely not the time to joke.

          What jokes are there. The line is being viewed.
    37. +1
      14 November 2015 06: 39
      A terrible tragedy for France and all of humanity? What next? You can’t tolerate it, decisive action by the authorities is needed, otherwise similar events will follow.
    38. +10
      14 November 2015 06: 39
      "We say France means Charlie Hebdo!" Probably not a single figure and not a single event, even the Crimean War of the 19th century, did more for the negative attitude of Russians towards France than this small-sized piece of paper. My condolences to ordinary French people, I want to believe that at least after that they will open their eyes to the situation in their country and the actions of their government, and I understand that I hope in vain ...
    39. +6
      14 November 2015 06: 40
      I grieve over the dead, condolences to relatives and friends.
      At night, one report reported that the attackers shouted "This is for you for Syria." I think there will be an attempt to direct the arrows to Assad. Especially against the backdrop of the Vienna conference and the G20 meeting.
    40. +1
      14 November 2015 06: 41
      Well, wait for the caricatures from Charil?
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    42. +2
      14 November 2015 06: 45
      And "refugees" arrive and arrive in Europe
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 10: 23
        And in the place remove the coordinators, emissaries and organizers from ISIS.
    43. +4
      14 November 2015 06: 48
      survived ... I read about the number of those killed, I come to the words Paris and France, but in my mind there is a vile thought: "This is a topic for raising the rating of charlushes!" ...
      Americans gouged Sadam's stability for "controlled" chaos, modified Alkaida in Ishil for this, began to destroy all stability in Asia. They organized the resettlement of "refugees" to Europe, using the Oland and Merkel puppets ... And now to the UNEXPECTED TERRORIST! The question is brewing: what was it done for - for the final weakening of EURO, for raising the demand for military orders in the United States, maybe for raising the rating of the Nazis ???? And here's what I doubt - this time the shaves will not sit out behind a puddle.
    44. +3
      14 November 2015 06: 51
      Maybe it’s sobering European boobs from politics like Hollande? It was immediately evident that strong young trained men in Europe did not flee from war and devastation, but went to war, went to kill and avenge those who destroyed their homes.
    45. +5
      14 November 2015 06: 52
      Something seems to me that Assad will be blamed
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        1. Darkoff
          +5
          14 November 2015 07: 39
          Took off the tongue, brother! We are waiting for cynical accusations, saying: while the Russian Federation did not start bombing, there were no terrorist attacks in Europe.
          Already there are reports that terrorists shouted slogans about revenge for Syria. They can interpret this as the slogans of the supporters of Assad.
    46. 0
      14 November 2015 06: 58
      What is the GXNUMX? We must unite. And if the United States is again against it, it will become clear to everyone where terrorism is from in the world.
      It doesn’t fit into my head - Paris, France, the death of people ... Awful.
      1. 0
        14 November 2015 08: 05
        Quote: 1536
        And if the United States is again against it, it will become clear to everyone where the terrorism comes from in the world.

        Forgive me ... But has it really remained a mystery to you so far? what
    47. +14
      14 November 2015 07: 00
      They shouted to the West that the whole world was in shock! And I'm not at all shocked. I have a sense of logical completeness, even if so negative!
      1. +2
        14 November 2015 10: 08
        Here! you expressed my thoughts! logically, we are waiting for something similar in Germany and the states
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 10: 50
          In the states it is unlikely. There are no refugees far away. In Europe, they are just a stream. So we "come in large numbers".
    48. +3
      14 November 2015 07: 01
      Old lady Europe has played out, let the states say thanks for the "refugees". And ours warned them that the matter was not purely with these seekers of happiness.
    49. 0
      14 November 2015 07: 01
      Quote: dchegrinec
      The number of refugees in one country should be limited, especially since France is actively fighting terrorism. It would be strange if there were no Jews among those who entered France. Another issue is the work of the special services. Apparently, it turned out to be unsatisfactory.

      Polytech mattresses and EU climbed into blogging countries with their shit democracy destroyed thousands of innocent people and now cry.
    50. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 04
      Well, somebody will tell us now what kind of Russia is the aggressor and what kind of moderates with banderlogs are darling !!? ... I don’t hear.
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 07: 09
        TELL..do not hesitate ... march through Paris in T-shirts I am PARIS
    51. +6
      14 November 2015 07: 07
      Where is “Charlie”, why are there no bloody caricatures? I’m writing these lines, but everything is bubbling inside - how can you “make” money on human blood?
      then a seedy, shabby "yellow" newspaper? Scum, scum... Even now, after such a tragedy, they won’t understand a thing, the “green” has clouded their eyes.
      You Europeans are reaping what you yourself have created, and you have created a MONSTER, under
      called ISIS, under the strict guidance of your “elder” Washington brother and such scoundrels from “Charlie”. Who gave you the right to meddle in life
      other countries and peoples with their own fucking shitcracy, who gave you the right
      mock the feelings of believers, no matter what god they pray to? You wanted to organize another crusade for the “purity” of your faith, so you will get what you deserve, but it’s a pity for those who died innocently from
      your actions, and even more from your inactions in the inability to conduct your own,
      a rational and adequate policy of PEACE, and not war, without standing on their hind legs in front of your master. Look at those people you call refugees. They are mostly young, healthy, strong, and, most likely, well trained for terrorist shares, Muslims, you have them
      regiments, divisions, armies, and you will no longer be able to cope with them... You will have to answer for everything you have done with blood, and not a little. And rest in peace to those who died!
      1. +5
        14 November 2015 08: 21
        I assure you that there will be no “caricatures” with a specific flavor of the tragic events in France.
        The "creative" members of this magazine will not want to lose their French citizenship.
        Oh, they always know which way the wind is blowing. They will not offend the French.
        It’s more expensive for yourself and you should always keep your nose to the wind.
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    52. +5
      14 November 2015 07: 11
      In my soul I feel sorry for the dead Frenchmen, but on the other hand, when I remember these caricatures of our plane, so much anger and some kind of bad causticity appears. How will you laugh now, French gentlemen? Everyone is shouting there about some kind of moderate opposition, moderate terrorists. So they took you and gave you a moderate crack, more than a hundred people in total! I'll see how the humor comes out of you now!!!
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 08: 29
        Quote: SPB 1221
        In my soul I feel sorry for the dead Frenchmen, but on the other hand, when I remember these caricatures of our plane, so much anger and some kind of bad causticity appears.

        But were it the innocent victims of terrorists who drew obscene caricatures? Acrimony, to put it mildly, is out of place.
        1. +2
          14 November 2015 09: 03
          You noticed this correctly. Moreover, Charlie, to put it mildly, has nothing to do with French culture.
        2. 0
          14 November 2015 10: 18
          Most of these “innocent” victims supported Charlie’s caricatures by burying people in themselves, I feel sorry for the children without reservation if they died, the rest are purely humanly sorry, but this is a well-deserved retribution for the entire policy of France in the last 5 years. It was the French who were most stuck in Libya!
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    53. 0
      14 November 2015 07: 16
      I feel sorry for the French country and people, and not only that. all of Europe is now under such a threat. And we are all fighting, trying to convey to them... a voice in the desert. With us, everyone understands better what is happening in the world, what kind of mess is going on. So which one of us is a zombie?? Looking at the organized crowd of refugees - young guys, you understand: there are not only refugees there... and that is not why they are spreading all over Europe. The prediction that there will be no people left in Europe is coming true, no matter how scary it is, but this is only the beginning of its demise. Although hope dies last, sometimes along with the one who hoped...
    54. -1
      14 November 2015 07: 17
      Who was surprised by this? Everything is logical, who's next. topic for ebsdoshniks.
    55. +2
      14 November 2015 07: 21
      My sincere condolences. I feel very sorry for the dead.
    56. +3
      14 November 2015 07: 22
      Condolences to the dead! Isn't it time for Europe to live by its own wits?
    57. +20
      14 November 2015 07: 23
      Prophetic words ...
    58. +2
      14 November 2015 07: 25
      I offer my sincere condolences to the families and friends of the deceased, as well as to all ordinary citizens of the French Republic. I wish you to gain courage, perseverance and strength, and survive these irreparable losses, becoming stronger and more united in your complete rejection of the methods of terror under any guise. I wish the responsible comrades within this long-suffering country to wipe their glasses fogged up from the miasma of government lawlessness as soon as possible and finally stop creating and provoking situations around the world that incite total hatred between people and nations.
    59. +3
      14 November 2015 07: 26
      Meanwhile, the liberals.
      1. +10
        14 November 2015 07: 36
        Vitya licked it deliciously, pass!
        1. -5
          14 November 2015 09: 00
          Quote: Homo
          Vitya licked it deliciously, pass!

          refute his theses. The points.
          1. +6
            14 November 2015 09: 07
            And point one. There is no Europe today. There is no European civilization. No sovereignty, no politics. No culture. Forgotten, sold... Result...
            And tomorrow, when the tears dry up, they will run to assent to the “friends” who are arming the terrorists.
            Somehow there’s no way for us here....
            Denied?
            1. -3
              14 November 2015 09: 34
              Quote: Observer 33
              Denied?

              no.
          2. +2
            14 November 2015 09: 22
            Quote: Das Boot
            refute his theses. The points.

            Prove his theses. The points.
            1. -2
              14 November 2015 10: 15
              Quote: Aleksander
              Prove his theses. The points.

              Well, if you prefer this way of conducting a discussion, then please:
              Everything that is happening now in the gloomy night of Paris is happening in our home, in Europe. With our comrades in civilization - the Europeans.
              Will you challenge the civilizational community? Russia is integrated into European institutions - from legal to economic.
              Oil and gas real estate? Dugin's hallucination? Space for future generations of Chinese to settle in?
              what's wrong? Mother oil, paranoid Dugin, creeping expansion.
              Without Russian civilization, at least since the nineteenth century, the European world is incomplete.
              do not agree? With what exactly? Yes, of course, there was the stupid copy-paste of Peter the Great, the European culture-trade, since the times of the Hanseatic League and Peter Russia had been disgusted by staticism and isolation. But considering Dostoevsky and Tolstoy only “ours” is stupid (I, of course, am not talking about Fyodor Mikhalych’s passion for European gambling houses now laughing). A kind of scientific and cultural autarchy? Do not make me laugh.
              And we, without belonging to European values ​​and its culture, are simply a very large, God-forsaken territory with a nuclear arsenal.
              And I partly agree with this. But: in the absence of the notorious national idea and with consumerist values ​​imposed over 20 years, we still risk losing our identity. The belching of the nineties still echoes. You can continue to chew snot about our exclusivity, “surprised that there is no confirmation of this..” (c)
              1. 0
                14 November 2015 12: 23
                Quote: Das Boot
                Quote: Aleksander
                Prove his theses. The points.


                silent minus? Oh well. Are there any arguments? Interesting insight into the debate. I am by no means a fan of Shenderovich, but I also don’t stupidly make a stand for his last name.
                1. 0
                  15 November 2015 04: 46
                  Quote: Das Boot
                  Quote: Das Boot
                  Quote: Aleksander
                  Prove his theses. The points.


                  silent minus? Oh well. Are there any arguments? Interesting insight into the debate. I am by no means a fan of Shenderovich, but I also don’t stupidly make a stand for his last name.


                  The minus was not mine. And besides discussions there is work, leaving no time for discussion.
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              2. +3
                14 November 2015 13: 16
                Quote: Das Boot
                Will you challenge the civilizational community?

                Modern European civilization began to take shape in the 16th and 17th centuries on the basis of a capitalist economic formation and the “Protestant spirit.”
                Its main value, its alpha and omega idea of ​​a free (atomized) individual whose interests are placed above all and are not limited by anything other than the law. In this case, the measure of any economic activity becomes exclusively profit.
                Russian civilization, both in its Orthodox-monarchical and in its Soviet version, is built on directly opposite values. The idea of ​​an individual not connected with anyone is directly denied in our country (moreover, it is very difficult for a Russian to even explain it), the idea of ​​a “race of the chosen” ( initially - the salvation of the elect in Protestantism) is directly denied, the idea of ​​the omnipotence of profit is directly denied.
                That is, your statement about the “civilizational community” is absolutely wrong. Which, of course, was always realized by the Europeans, who in no case and never considered us “theirs,” and always strived for the weakening and annihilation of Russia.
                Quote: Das Boot
                Russia is integrated into European institutions - from legal to economic.

                Since 1985, Russia has been trying to integrate into Europe on the basis of accepting the capitalist formation and surrendering all Soviet achievements. However, on this path it encountered total rejection of such “integration” from the Europeans. Surrendering the Soviet legacy was perceived only as a sign of weakness and a signal to attack with the goal of the ultimate disintegration of Russia.
                Inside Russia, the attempt to instill “European capitalist values” led to a huge economic crisis, a crisis of the state, and most importantly to the beginning of the loss of its own cultural and civilizational values.
                P.S Mr. Shenderovich, of course, knows all this, he also knows that the best way to eliminate any culture (civilization) is to force it to abandon itself, to accept the values ​​of another culture. At the same time, it is impossible to imitate someone else’s culture, but now his own is being destroyed. This is why he constantly writes about the “civilizational community” of Europe and Russia, speaking in the classic role of his man behind enemy lines (Russia).
                1. 0
                  14 November 2015 14: 30
                  Quote: Odyssey
                  Modern European civilization began to take shape in the 16-17th century on the basis of the capitalist economic formation....Russian civilization, and in its Orthodox-monarchical

                  I see a certain logical collision: you consider Western civilization in the context of an economic formation and as a counterpoint - Russian Orthodoxy and the code of the builder of communism) It seems to me that these are still different formats. No refined “Russian civilization,” absolutely autonomous and authentic, ever existed in the historical periods you indicated. Actually, we were not talking about a vulgar clone of the West, although the initial Europeanization of Russia was of a repressive and coercive nature with the copying of everything and everyone - from administrative models to industry and trade. And in the cultural sphere too - let’s be sincere. You know, from the burning of the “judicial vessels” and the beating of buffoons with batogs at the Quiet One to the Diaghilev seasons, we have come a long way, and not without the influence of European cultural tradition. In addition, Shenderovich talks about the mutual influence of cultures and, despite all my dislike for him, he never welcomed stupid copying and imitation, which, by the way, is what our television and media officialdom is guilty of.
                  1. -1
                    14 November 2015 16: 35
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    I see some logical conflict:

                    May you have kamerad, smile with whom to start a debate?
                  2. +2
                    14 November 2015 21: 29
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    I see a certain logical collision: you are considering Western civilization in the context of an economic formation

                    Not only, for whom did I write about the “Protestant ethic” and the basic ideological ideas of Europe? In general, the topic of the foundations of modern European civilization has generated an immense literature and has been studied very well. If super-briefly, the capitalist formation is the frame, the skeleton of the new European civilization, but it is not at all its only essence.
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    and counterpoint - Russian Orthodoxy and the code of the builder of communism)

                    I did not write about the corresponding economic formations: feudal-class society and socialism because their absolute dissimilarity with Western capitalism is self-evident. So there is no logical conflict, European civilization is opposite to Russian both in its basic ideological ideas and, of course, in their implementation in the economy.
                    In general, you will, of course, excuse me, but only those who are not familiar with Western philosophy, and in particular with political philosophy, and/or have never lived in the West for a long time can talk about the commonality of European and Russian civilization. It is enough to familiarize yourself with the works of Western thinkers from Hobbes and Locke to Foucault and Huntington and read Western treatises on Russia so that the idea not only of “community,” but even of the similarity of the West and Russia would disappear forever.
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    You know, from the burning of the “judicial vessels” and the beating of buffoons with batogs at the Quiet One to the Diaghilev seasons, we have come a long way, and not without the influence of European cultural tradition.

                    These are different things. No culture exists in a vacuum and, of course, cultural borrowing is not only possible, but also necessary. Especially in the case of interaction with the West, when even protection from the “civilizing mission” of Europe simply required borrowing both its scientific achievements and the form of organization of production, etc. No relation to the idea of ​​“community” with Europe and, accordingly, to dissolution in it does not have a “common European home”.
                    Quote: Das Boot
                    In addition, Shenderovich talks about the mutual influence of cultures

                    He says directly - we are Europeans. He cruelly ridicules any idea about a “special path for Russia”. What kind of mutual influence of cultures is this? These are precisely the ideas about a “common European home” in which we need to go, and all the “peculiarities” of Russia are rudiments of savagery that we need to abandon.
                    That is, he acts as a religious missionary among the unreasonable Indians (natives, etc.) to whom he brings the good news of the need to join the “world civilization” and abandon their “savage characteristics.” And especially for us (Russians) there is nothing to brag about - the “great people” turned out to be little smarter than the North American Indians and easily buy into such cheap nonsense. The consequences of the infusion since 1985 “into our common European home” are no better than the consequences of the genocide of the Indians.
              3. +1
                14 November 2015 14: 43
                Our common European civilization? And what is it? We and Europe have a common skin color, an Indo-European language group and the Bible, which they banned in the Middle Ages, and now they don’t give a damn about it. We have no common civilization with them!
              4. 0
                15 November 2015 04: 42
                Quote: Das Boot
                Everything that is happening now in the gloomy night of Paris is happening in our home, in Europe. Will you challenge the civilizational community with our comrades in civilization - the Europeans? Russia is integrated into European institutions - from legal to economic.

                Civilization is a set of material, technical and spiritual achievements all of humanity in the course of its development, Europe is not the best in everything часть. Russia - part world civilization, and not just Europe. Therefore, I mourn for those who died the day before yesterday from terrorist attack in Lebanon to dozens Lebanese no less than the Parisians. For Shednerovich, they are not part of civilization - he doesn’t write a line about them...
                Quote: Das Boot
                Oil and gas real estate? Hallucination Dugin? Space for future generations of Chinese to settle in? what's wrong? Mother oil paranoid-Dugin, creeping expansion.

                Answering in a manner understandable to you: Shender-like - your comments on this point -paranoid
                Quote: Das Boot
                Without Russian civilization, at least since the nineteenth century, the European world is incomplete

                Without Russia-WORLDWIDE civilization is incomplete and - much earlier than the 19th century.
                Quote: Das Boot
                And we, without belonging to European values ​​and its culture, are simply a very large, God-forsaken territory with a nuclear arsenal.

                Yes, yes, that is why, only for the purpose of instilling European values ​​and European culture, a united Europe CRUSADES tried for almost a thousand years to “civilize” Rus'. How it “civilized” (destroyed or mutilated beyond recognition) the unique human civilizations of South America, Asia, and Africa. Russia has never done this in relation to Europe. Fascism and Nazism were also born in Europe.
                If Europe disappears tomorrow, Russia will survive, because... she- self-sufficient civilizational organism, successfully survived for centuries in the struggle (often with Europe) and destroyed tens of millions of “civilizing” Europeans..
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          4. 0
            14 November 2015 09: 29
            Not point by point, but in general. “Divide and conquer” is a well-known technique. Therefore, no separate points, only in general. But in general, the “smartest” have no brains at all, this is obvious, no matter what.
          5. +1
            14 November 2015 11: 04
            Where did this puppet write theses? You are drunk? Europe has never enriched our culture; we are completely different.
            1. -1
              14 November 2015 12: 25
              Quote: East Wind
              Europe has never enriched our culture

              I’ll answer your courtly ones:
              Quote: East Wind
              You are drunk?


              Quote: East Wind
              we are completely different.

              would you mind explaining? Start with physiology, perhaps.
      2. Darkoff
        +5
        14 November 2015 07: 45
        Vitya could not help but use such an excuse to poop on Russia. This is already a psychiatric diagnosis.
        1. +2
          14 November 2015 07: 53
          Give me a mattress at least once, the poem has found its hero.
      3. +4
        14 November 2015 08: 25
        Vitya Shenderovich, at any moment in his life, can name where his homeland is.
        Today he has it in Europe. In its western part.
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      1. +1
        14 November 2015 08: 45
        I would give a hundred likes, but I can only give one :)
    61. +3
      14 November 2015 07: 31
      The Americans have already begun to excuse ISIS. A message arrived that “American intelligence believes that, judging by the complexity of execution, it is not ISIS, but Al-Qaeda
      1. +7
        14 November 2015 07: 37
        Quote: armored optimist
        The Americans have already begun to excuse ISIS. A message arrived that “American intelligence believes that, judging by the complexity of execution, it is not ISIS, but Al-Qaeda

        In Russian it means “The same eggs, only in profile.”
      2. Darkoff
        +3
        14 November 2015 07: 56
        Here ...! They are the ones at the UN who vote against including ISIS on the list of terrorist organizations under the pretext that they are Al-Qaeda! When they need to, they unite, when they need to, they divide. They are doing everything to cover up ISIS!
    62. +3
      14 November 2015 07: 34
      My condolences to the French. You were given this dirty little magazine, of course they will remain silent. This is when it doesn’t concern them, you can be sarcastic and giggle, but if your butt is on a hot frying pan, then there’s no time for that. Not smart people
      It seemed to them that they were far away. It’s a pity that it was the innocent people, and not the provocateurs who were caught. IS through its actions showed how little attention France paid to the danger posed by such organizations.
    63. 0
      14 November 2015 07: 36
      At least 2 explosions occurred in the area of ​​the Stade de France stadium. Hollande was present at the stadium at that moment. There are two probabilities about the origin of this event: 1 - Show everyone “I am the highest official of the 5th Republic in the same danger as ordinary residents” or 2 - what happened for Hollande is a complete surprise with a surprise in his pants. I am inclined to the first version, since what happened was a well-planned and coordinated action. Considering the capabilities of electronic intelligence and the special services of France (they are incompetent and cannot do anything - nonsense, they can even do it when they need to) it is unlikely that they did not know about what was being prepared. It is quite possible that these events are an “alibi” for Hollande and did not really pose any danger to him. Further actions of France and Co. will show the true reason for what happened (look at who benefits). It’s a pity for the dead, they cannot be brought back, but the actions of Western political strategists have always been characterized by extreme cynicism, even in relation to their citizens.
      P.S. You shouldn’t pay attention to Charlie, the ducklings will be eaten by their own shit. They will arrange a demonstrative flogging: “They mocked you, but we are normal.” Those. they are destined to play the role of a lightning rod.
      1. +4
        14 November 2015 08: 40
        Quote: Sergey Guryev
        . Hollande was present at the stadium at that moment. There are two probabilities about the origin of this event: 1 - Show everyone “I am the highest official of the 5th Republic, I am just as exposed to danger as ordinary residents”

        Well, this is complete nonsense! request Do you think Hollande was aware of the upcoming terrorist actions? Overkill is obvious!
        Quote: Sergey Guryev
        I am inclined to the first version, since what happened was a well-planned and coordinated action.

        Did the French organize everything themselves? This has already happened in Ukraine, when they claimed that they set themselves on fire in Odessa. fool
        1. 0
          14 November 2015 09: 09
          Quote: Bayonet
          Overkill is obvious!

          This kind of tragedy instantly becomes surrounded by a heap of conspiracy theories. A profound
          Quote: Sergey Guryev
          I'm leaning towards
          indicates a powerful analytical mind and complete control of the situation.
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 16: 37
            Quote: Das Boot
            indicates a powerful analytical mind and complete control of the situation.

            Certainly! smile hi
          2. 0
            14 November 2015 16: 43
            Maybe you will please me with your powerful analytical mind? What are your guesses?
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 20: 08
              Quote: Sergey Guryev
              Maybe you will please me with your powerful analytical mind?

              No. I, unlike you, am not trying to seem smarter and more knowledgeable than Wasserman’s vest.
        2. +1
          14 November 2015 16: 41
          Try to at least drive up with an explosive to the stadium where the head of state is located. Let's see what you can do. How long has the NATO coalition been bombing ISIS? Why did a terrorist attack occur only when the Russian Aerospace Forces began to destroy ISIS oil enterprises? Or do you think that ISIS does not distinguish France from Russia? This terrorist attack will allow France and NATO to take control of a significant part of the territory of Syria, which, by chance, will have oil infrastructure. There is a reason to move the Russian Federation, they are victims. Politicians at the level of heads of state think in different categories. To sacrifice one and a half hundred lives of citizens in the name of France and not only... We remember the history of provocations, Google to help.
          Regarding Odessa and our case. Planned and coordinated by the militants, that’s what I wanted to say. First you need to find performers, weed out a lot of candidates. Those who were selected communicate with confessors, acquaintances, friends, relatives, through, among others. and electronic means. All this gives rise to a huge number of connections that special. services cannot fail to notice and not know about what is being prepared. It's one thing to smuggle a bomb onto a plane at an uncontrolled airport. It’s another matter when semi-literate, talkative savages organize a similar action in the capital of one of the leading states in the world, next to the head of state. In Odessa, there was an act of intimidation, moreover, by the state of Ukraine against pro-Russian citizens, or do you disagree? In France, there is a provocation that allows NATO to give its hands a free hand in Syria. Don't confuse warm with soft.
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 20: 11
            Quote: Sergey Guryev
            In France, there is a provocation that allows NATO to give its hands a free hand in Syria.

            deserved...
    64. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 37
      We are NOT Charlie!!! We are RUSSIANS!!! We do not laugh at their grief, as they do at ours, we share their suffering....
    65. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 39
      Yes, VVP was right when at the UN he asked them, “Do you even understand what you’ve done?” It’s a shame for the people, but this is only the beginning if you don’t take action.
    66. +4
      14 November 2015 07: 41
      Who was yelling - are we all Charlie? They were screaming! Who chose Holland? They chose. Who hates us? They hate. So now? Nothing. Well, they died and died. They counted the killed RUSSIANS in Chechnya, Dombass? No....
    67. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 44
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      Well, somebody will tell us now what kind of Russia is the aggressor and what kind of moderates with banderlogs are darling !!? ... I don’t hear.
      They won’t hear and won’t tell, although the whole riffraff understands what, where, when. They have a direct line of Washington policy, Russia is enemy No. 1 and disagreements with boss Sam will be fraught with disagreement for them.
      1. +3
        14 November 2015 07: 58
        That’s wonderful, let them silently eat all this delicious food to the bottom.
    68. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 45
      See Paris and die :(. Creepy. We are all on the verge of a grandiose trick. I don’t believe that their special services missed the mark. My ears are really sticking out.
    69. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 47
      My condolences to all those affected. It's a pity for the French... It's a big tragedy...
      The culprit here is not ISIS or other scumbags (they are pawns, fanatics, moral scum), but the authorities of France itself and the European Union with their ugly “tolerance”, “multiculturalism” inside and in foreign policy. In all conscience, Holland and the company should resign for such a failure...
      The network of terrorism has been building for years. The threats were obvious. But, apparently, the European donkey is ready to die for an overseas personal carrot, but remain “tolerant”...
    70. 0
      14 November 2015 07: 56
      My condolences to the French. I think this will happen again and again. Alas.
    71. +6
      14 November 2015 08: 04
      I think France will be saved by Marie Le Pen, and the mattress Hollande must go, he can only chew snot..
      1. 0
        14 November 2015 09: 58
        She is also not so simple, in words of course she is a master, but in reality she just wants to rise at the expense of Russia, in some of her interviews such a thought slips through. So, if something happens, we need to understand this and not allow them to make money at our expense, as some really like to do, and the example is simple, where would France be after the Second World War if Stalin had not given them the status of winner, and how did the paddling pools repay us? , they have already forgotten and don’t remember, so be on your guard against all sorts of parasites.
        1. +1
          14 November 2015 10: 53
          Quote: Victor1
          but in reality he just wants to rise at the expense of Russia

          it's like?
          Quote: Victor1
          where would France be after World War II if Stalin had not given them the status of winner

          And what does Stalin have to do with it? The fate of France was decided collectively. Although, according to common sense, with an alternative outcome to WWII, the French would have completely adapted to the new order. 40 of De Gaulle’s “Fighting France” against 000 collaborators is clearly not in favor of the myth of the “unyielding all-French Resistance.”
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      1. 0
        14 November 2015 09: 15
        Quote: Sanyht
        IMMEDIATELY CREATE FLYING SPECIAL FORCES TEAMS WITH DOGS AND COMBINE ALL CITIES, HOUSES, GARAGES AND WAREHOUSES (SELECTIVELY ACCORDING TO DANGEROUS)

        Immediately create flying squads of the Holy Inquisition!!!! Release the plague strains!!! The witches' hammer is the new European Constitution!!! Europe needs cleansing
        Quote: Sanyht
        FOREVER FROM NORMAL PEOPLE
      2. +1
        14 November 2015 09: 43
        Sanyht
        This is why I respect Ukraine - for its wild flight of thoughts!!!!

        According to data for 2011 in Moscow:
        Quantity buildings (residential) in Moscow 39,869 thousand

        The number of residential buildings in St. Petersburg in 2009 was 48,224 thousand

        Where do you offer to take so many dogs (for EXPLOSIVES!!! which is generally rare - more drugs)??? If you don’t know, a dog can work for no more than an hour, then a break of at least an hour, and no more than 4 hours day...
        I’m generally silent about studying - how much do they teach a person at KMB?, but here is an animal, even though it’s smart...
        1. -1
          14 November 2015 10: 29
          Ten thousand specially trained dogs serve in the Moscow police, so that if necessary, they can smell and find explosives and much more.
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 11: 43
            For 42 thousand police officers?????????????????????
            1 on 4 belay ?????
            Well, okay, if there is such a ton of dogs in Maskva, then it will overwhelm the whole country... feel
            Seriously, I didn’t find a general figure (unfortunately) - but only in 2014 put into operation
            Results of 2014: Commissioning of non-residential buildings in Russia
            Non-residential buildings
            -----------------
            Number of building units:18965 units; Total building area: 30,023 million sq.m.
            of which:
            1. Industrial - 2676 units. Total area: 3,991 million sq.m.
            2. Agricultural - 2103 units. Total area: 3,863 million sq.m.
            3. Commercial - 7308 units. Total area: 10,937 million sq.m.
            4.Administrative - 1166 units. Total area: 2,262 million sq.m.
            5. Educational - 1000 units. Total area: 3,488 million sq.m.
            6. Healthcare - 578 units. Total area: 0,664 million sq.m.
            7. Others - 4134 units. Total area: 4,815 million sq.m.

            To make it clearer - the total area 3002,3 hectares of only new (2014) buildings. Of these, 2676 are industrial - where not every dog ​​works, and there are still a lot where dogs can work directly smoking

            let's move on:
            2010 "Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin is ready to purchase dogs and equip the technical and material base. The mayor is ready to help in drawing up the staffing table, since - only for Moscow metro necessary 500 dog handlers. This is an ideal solution for preventing crime and suppressing illegal actions,” Dmitry Medvedev expressed his agreement with Sergei Sobyanin. “Of course, there is no one hundred percent guarantee anywhere, but this is a good psychological factor that does not interfere with introducing and in other citiesOn money from your budget or with the help of the Center."
            Let me explain - 500 dogs on 329 km of tracks and 197 stations (not counting exits and transitions to stations) - this means that the dog must work like a robot without breaks to eat and sleep 24 hours a day. In addition, in such crowded places, the sense of smell becomes clogged very quickly and the dog starts working only with a terrifying look and that’s it.....
            Not every dog ​​can work a regular passenger train completely, and there are only 15-18 cars.

            Well, and also to follow up with “Moscow police with ten thousand dogs” -
            "Currently, the staffing level of the canine service is Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia is about 15 thousand specialists who serve in 29 zonal centers, 119 canine service centers (including 6 canine service centers of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for transport), in units for the protection of public order and ensuring public safety. In the official activities of the territorial bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, more 13 thousands German and Belgian shepherds, Labradors, Rottweilers, spaniels, terriers, who have tens of thousands of solved crimes."
            THE WHOLE COUNTRY (and not Maskva!!!) has 13 thousand service dogs - and this is very little in reality, apparently they will strengthen it and rightly so - a dog is a friend of a normal person...
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 18: 18
              Now explosive detectors have begun to be produced, so the need for dogs may soon disappear altogether.
              1. 0
                14 November 2015 19: 22
                Are you familiar with them - with detectors? If not, it’s better to stand aside...
                It’s the same thing as drug detectors - they smell it, they work, but with a thorough check, like an airport, a quiet queue of 100 people... And if there are 100 and quickly? And how much does the metro carry per day? And how much does all transport transport per day? -
                20 million....
                Unfortunately, man has not yet created anything better than what the Lord God came up with...
                Some kind of rubbish or a way to kill their own kind - yes, a person can easily do this...
        2. -2
          14 November 2015 11: 13
          Quote: your1970
          Where do you offer to take so many trained dogs???

          You can also connect Kuklachev. Rats are quite trainable. I'm not sure about cockroaches and ants.
    73. +3
      14 November 2015 08: 07
      My condolences. Innocents are dying due to the fault of empty-headed politicians. Hollande should resign, miss 6 terrorist attacks in the capital at once, there is no excuse for this. I watched Obama’s speech on Euronews and I’m ashamed of him. He mumbled for a long time and tediously about freedom and democracy, which they defend, then a brief condolence and not a word about ISIS and who stirred up
      beehive in the Middle East. I hope that now the population of Old Europe will understand what a swamp the United States has dragged them into.
    74. +1
      14 November 2015 08: 08
      Quote: hydrox
      Quote: dchegrinec
      France is actively fighting terrorism.

      The cause of this terror is the United States, and some France is already a consequence, and if the United States is not stopped in the production of killers and chaos, then we all can only live our lives in fear under the CIA Damocles sword and terrorists with a smoked president this year around the world prove that the Russian plane and the French cinema are just a prelude to real terror.

      Not the USA, but a transnational business.
      Do you not understand that behind any terrorism there is always money? Terrorists investigation. And the reasons are in the struggle of moneybags with states, as with the institutions that control them.
    75. +4
      14 November 2015 08: 09
      we should also be wary of Islamist terrorist attacks. I sympathize with the Parisians
    76. +1
      14 November 2015 08: 13
      and where were the vaunted French intelligence services, the Sûreté Générale, etc., etc. To waste preparations for such a terrorist attack is simply the height of frivolity
      1. 0
        14 November 2015 11: 23
        Quote: Knobelsdorf
        and where were the vaunted French intelligence services, the Sûreté Générale, etc.

        I'm not sure about "praised". Who praised them? They have constant failures - Toulouse 2012, the “release” of a hostage in Mali in 2013, Paris in January 2015, etc.
    77. +1
      14 November 2015 08: 17
      Let Charle Hebdo now draw a caricature of their dead citizens, and how the Parisians themselves will react. Most likely, this hotbed of blasphemy will be closed.
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 08: 25
        But, after all, they can draw... For them, “there is no concept of blasphemy”...
    78. +4
      14 November 2015 08: 20
      The solution to those who ordered the terrorist attacks is as simple as the old Soviet 3 kopecks. Yesterday "Boulevard Voltaire", France published an article calling for France to withdraw from NATO, besides, in 1,5 years there will be presidential elections, two of the 3 candidates (Sarkozy - even though the late Gaddafi called him a clown - speaks (verbally) for good relations with Russia, and Li Pen is also for Russia) so the CIA urgently needs to act so that a second De Gaulle does not accidentally appear in France and throw NATO out of France.
      1. +3
        14 November 2015 09: 00
        Yesterday "Boulevard Voltaire", France published an article calling for France to withdraw from NATO, and in 1,5 years there will be presidential elections

        Quite a probable version. ISIS is a club in the hands of the CIA - in short.
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        Ordinary French people are dying from terrorist attacks, it’s terrible.
        The result of many years of political course in favor of US interests.
      2. +1
        14 November 2015 09: 48
        Sarkozy/Le Pen - the second De Gaulle????!!!!!!!!!!!!
        You got a little carried away (with all due respect to Marie!) - he was a self-sufficient figure and France was a little different...
      3. 0
        14 November 2015 11: 07
        There will be no second De Gaulle... The European elite was being crushed...
    79. +2
      14 November 2015 08: 22
      If Europe does not unite all settlers and migrants with the help of the same Islam and leaders adhering to traditional Islam into an organized and manageable mass, the wave will only grow. Good experience of Chechnya, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, Dagestan, the authorities regulate their relations with the help of religious leaders and elders. It is clear that outbreaks and ulcers arise in their midst, but they are the first to notice it, they keep records and monitor them and their families; if a person has been in the traditional faith for a long time and has changed his views, this cannot be hidden from society. ISIS MUST BE FIGHTED WITH THEIR WEAPONS. IF YOU BREAK THEIR SYSTEM OF VIEW OF RELIGION AND DISCOVER THE ROMANCE OF SHARIA, IT WILL SCARY EVERYONE AWAY. THEY ARE MAKING INFORMATION REVOLUTIONS, WHY NOT MAKE AN INFORMATION WAR FOR THEIR LEADERS? EVERYONE HAS 100 POUDS OF SOMETHING IN THEIR SOUL THAT VIOLATES THE RULES OF ISLAM. AND THIS IS THE WORK OF SPECIAL SERVICES, TOGETHER WITH ISLAMIC LEADERS. Until we remove the supply of people, the issue will only be resolved by physical destruction. And take appropriate measures against the states that “feed” ISIS in order to lobby for their political and economic interests. And short prison terms will practically not correct them, there are many islands in the World Ocean, very remote from civilization, so create a reservation there, strictly guarded, only for men and on another separately for women. And on these ISIS islands, let them build Sharia law for themselves, among their own kind.
    80. 0
      14 November 2015 08: 22
      The townsfolk and ordinary citizens of France felt how you expressed it on your own ass. My deepest condolences to them and I share with them the sadness for the dead. BUT! Let's separate the cutlets from the flies: we warned the authorities of Western countries about their “tolerant” policy towards the “moderate” opposition, more than once, and in fact even Western analysts spoke about the same thing. fool but as they say, until it knocks, it doesn’t come. we went through this, if anyone doesn’t remember, then let me at least remind you of the hostage taking in Beslan and Budyonnovsk, the explosion of houses in Moscow and a bus in Volgograd... stop MAYBE STOP STROKING YOUR HEAD AND YELLING TO THE WHOLE WORLD ABOUT WHAT ANIMAL THE RUSSIANS ARE! THEY BOMB CIVILIANS AND KILL PREGNANT WOMEN! (this is about you and me, my dear fellow citizens) but they are all so white and fluffy, they accept everyone who is offended and... (I almost wrote those who were omitted), they are all so tolerant. I’m a bad prophet, but I’ve lived a lot and from my experience I can say: this is not the end, this is just the beginning, and very soon the same will happen throughout Europe. according to my estimates, the next terrorist attack will be either in Belgium, or in Denmark, Holland, precisely in those countries that have provided the most favored regime to such “refugees” with faces tanned ONLY to the beard! hi
    81. +2
      14 November 2015 08: 27
      I feel immensely sorry for people, may they find peace in heaven with the angels. But not only and not even so much the scumbags from ISIS are to blame for this tragedy. The brainless rulers of Europe are to blame to the same extent, with their intelligence at the kindergarten level, with their tolerance and freedom of expression. The price of your values ​​is people's lives. You are ready to give up the lives of innocent people for the European values ​​of Charlie Hebdo, how about giving up your own, which is weak? Well, what about Ebdo-govno? How is your freedom of expression now? Are you glad that this time the brainless jackals remained intact? That Mrs. Merkel sheltered the creatures, now trembling - a stupid woman.
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    83. +1
      14 November 2015 08: 38
      Trouble! How many people were killed... How many were left orphans... When will everyone understand that they need to unite? And we are busy with infighting... Europe is not the USA! It's time to understand something. In the meantime, Hillary Clinton today expresses condolences and “prays,” and tomorrow calls for more weapons to be supplied to “moderates,” nothing will change.
      Europe wake up! Previously, you paid for the interests of overseas partners with money, now with lives! Wake up!
      Of course, we need to offer condolences, but they won’t help here...
    84. +1
      14 November 2015 08: 39
      The next stage of the global terrorist war against the whole world and Russia, unleashed by the Saudis and the Washington macaques. You noticed the smoked macaque leader's wandering smile as he expressed his concern about what had happened. Why did ISIS carry out terrorist attacks only in France, why not in Switzerland, the Baltic states or Belgium, among the Scandinavians, in England?
      It’s strange that Charlie Hebdo is silent... where are you, as Venediktov said on ehe matzo, real journalists....
    85. -1
      14 November 2015 08: 40
      Khrentsuz special services..... where have you been? Mother......
    86. 0
      14 November 2015 08: 41
      What's there in Calais??? They write that a large camp of Bkzhen residents was burned, it seems like a lot of people died
      1. -1
        14 November 2015 08: 50
        Quote: SERGEY UI
        What's there in Calais??? They write that a large camp of Bkzhen residents was burned, it seems like a lot of people died


        So we are waiting for Alaverdi for the French from Muslims.
    87. +1
      14 November 2015 08: 49
      Completely different people are paying for the actions of the selfish elite. I sympathize with the people of France.
    88. +4
      14 November 2015 09: 00
      “Neglecting the stability of Libya will lead to the collapse of world peace through instability in the Mediterranean. If our rule in Libya were to end, millions of Africans would pour illegally into Italy, into France... Europe would turn black in no time at all... We prevent emigration by containing the advance of al-Qaeda. Thus, if stability in Libya is disrupted, it will immediately have bad consequences for Europe and for the Mediterranean. Everyone will be in danger! (c) Muammar Gaddafi
      In fact, it was the Libyan war that marked the start of a whole series of local wars and coups d'état, with a huge number of casualties and millions of refugees that are now sweeping Europe. Now there are consequences, including for those who started the Arab Spring and took an active part in supporting it. Gaddafi could not stop this skating rink, he could only slow it down for half a year, giving Assad time to gather his strength and organize resistance. But Gaddafi was the first to stand in his way, and already on the verge of death, he was able to prophetically describe the consequences of what would come after the destruction of unfortunate Libya.
    89. +2
      14 November 2015 09: 05
      I went through the RuNet. Well what can we say. “Experts” (simply “experts” and “experts close to intelligence” woke up, had some coffee and began to make excuses for ISIS. They say that ISIS does not have such abilities and skills, it is not ISIS that is to blame, but Al-Qaeda. I would not be surprised if the most advanced "experts close to the State Department" will begin to look for the Russian trace, in the person of, for example, Kadyrov's people, who are taking revenge for Hebdo. Europeans are susceptible to nonsense - they will believe it. And then the time will come for Europe to resolve the issue of sanctions. So why not benefit from tragedy?Making candy out of ram is a specialty of Europe.
    90. 0
      14 November 2015 09: 07
      Condolences to the families of the victims.
      Complete failure of the French intelligence services
    91. +3
      14 November 2015 09: 09
      The kingdom of heaven is lost.
      1. +2
        14 November 2015 10: 20
        The Kingdom of heaven..
    92. +3
      14 November 2015 09: 12
      Tragedy, tragedy... But from the point of view of the "enlightened" and "civilized" West in the 90s, houses in Russian cities were blown up by "freedom fighters", Dubrovka and Beslan also caused schadenfreude. Now the whole world should feel sorry for Europe, which stepped on its own testicles?
    93. +2
      14 November 2015 09: 14
      It is not that simple. I think the French began to be killed for their “independent behavior” of participating in the coalition. You have to look for your legs in your pants.
    94. +8
      14 November 2015 09: 15
      Well, where is the daub from the trash heap called eblo shalari? I don't mourn them. Not a single Western nasty thing was sorry for OUR deaths in terrorist attacks (let's remember - BUDENOVSK, BUYNAKSK, MOSCOW, KIZLYAR, ESSENTIK, continue? OUR ENTIRE RUSSIA suffered from terrorist attacks), and over the past 15 years, 100 terrorist attacks have been committed, as a result of which more than 2100 people died , the number of victims is in the tens of thousands. On the contrary, they (all sorts of Euro politicians) called these barada dogs rebels and freedom fighters and generously sponsored them. So the rebels and FREEDOM FIGHTERS are already operating in France and may have already started throughout Europe. But these are all emotions, and the causes and consequences of the terrorist attack need to be understood in detail.
    95. +1
      14 November 2015 09: 16
      Horror! Ordinary people, innocent ordinary people died for nothing... The terrorists never achieved what they wanted, the Hebdo employees will continue their rotten work, the French government will once again offer condolences... And that’s all... But, this is will not resurrect dead people. That's what's scary and offensive...
      My condolences to those killed... It seems to me that only ordinary people, not burdened with power, are capable of sincere words of support...
    96. yan 2015
      +1
      14 November 2015 09: 20
      what a wonderful occasion for the freest printing house, Charlie Eblo. show your wit.
      I feel sorry for innocent people. Shocked.
    97. +3
      14 November 2015 09: 23
      Quote: Aleksander
      "Do you at least understand-WHAT have you done? !!"


      They don't understand, they are foreigners.
    98. +4
      14 November 2015 09: 24
      It's time to draw conclusions...
      Here it is "POINT OF RETURN"...
      Both the United States and Europe, which gave birth to ISIS, believed that they could buy it off with Nulland cookies.
      NOTE - MATCH GERMANY - FRANCE!
      It seems that the United States put suicide belts on Merkel and Hollande, who refused to admit the thought that they were being used by an older, good Friend, bringing his Democracy to everyone on the planet...
      Together with themselves, they “blew up” their states, with their history, culture, traditions, faith...
      They were told: “Rats are fleeing the ship, which are capable of gnawing large areas in your states, sowing Chaos, Death, Devastation, which YOU sowed in the Middle and non-Middle East...
      And it seemed to them that all the gangs they created would only attack Putin and Russia...
      The Lord played the game, putting on signs with “I AM CHARLIE...”, IMPLEMENTING SANCTIONS AGAINST THAT STATE, WHOSE SPIRIT “crush or destroy” is impossible.

      HERE IS THE LESSON...
      WILL THERE BE CONCLUSIONS???????
    99. +4
      14 November 2015 09: 25
      They let the blackness in and now... I feel sorry for the people, but weren’t they the ones who welcomed the blackness? Weren't they the ones who rejoiced at the wars in the Middle East? ARE THEY NOT MUCH FOR THE CORPSES OF THE "KATZ.APOVS" IN THE Donbass? Didn't they welcome the refusal to transfer the Mistrals?... Question...
    100. +1
      14 November 2015 09: 29
      and I don’t feel sorry for these perverts at all, they should have dealt with their women in time and not throw pistols anywhere, so there are no guilty people without guilt - Gleb Zheglov, fucked
      1. 0
        14 November 2015 11: 44
        +++! I support!

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