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Paris attacks

French authorities sent reinforcements to 1500 military personnel to provide security in Paris, where on Friday evening, 13 in November, a series of terrorist attacks occurred. About this, reports TASS, reported in the Elysee Palace on the results of an emergency meeting of key ministers headed by President Francois Hollande.
Earlier in his address to the nation, Hollande announced that the authorities of the republic "mobilized all possible forces to neutralize the terrorists and ensure the security of all neighborhoods that could be threatened." “I also demanded that there be military reinforcement, and it is already in the Paris metropolitan area,” the French president said.
According to preliminary estimates, at least 140 people have become victims of a series of terrorist attacks in the French capital, French media reported. Of these, according to French television channels, about 100 people became victims of the shooting at the Bataclan Theater, where terrorists took hostages and shot them. In connection with the incident, President Hollande announced the introduction of a state of emergency in the country and the closure of state borders.
Hollande also decided to refuse to participate in the G20 Summit, which is due to take place on November 16 in Turkey. "France will be represented by Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius and Finance Minister Michel Sapin," the presidential office said.
Responsibility for the terrorist attacks in Paris took the terrorist group "Islamic State". The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activity is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
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  1. vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 14 November 2015 06: 14 New
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    A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
    Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?
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      1. Throw
        Throw 14 November 2015 06: 40 New
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        For Westerners, deservedly "dreams become reality."
        Like movie planes in skyscrapers, so are the 11 / 9 twin towers.
        So now the "13-th district" shines for the French ...

        This time, I think, there will be no processions of politicians and mantras "I-ebdo".
        Tolerance dances with tambourines end.
        am
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom 14 November 2015 07: 03 New
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          Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 14 November 2015 07: 27 New
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            Quote: crazyrom
            Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?

            This time, if they draw, I think the French themselves will tear off the BOSKs to them. It’s one thing to mock the Russians, but here it’s a bit wrong.
            1. vyinemeynen
              vyinemeynen 14 November 2015 07: 31 New
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              Bataklan PHOTO ENTRANCE
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 November 2015 08: 36 New
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                Quote: vyinemeynen
                Bataklan PHOTO ENTRANCE

                To see Paris and die - now takes on a completely different meaning.
                The IG committed a terrorist attack in Paris not because France is more guilty than others, but because those who were in Paris are easiest to confirm - sometimes it’s not clear who is visiting someone — Muslims from the French or vice versa
                1. vyinemeynen
                  vyinemeynen 14 November 2015 08: 55 New
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                  Do you think Germany will pass? I am sure no.
                  The question is when!
                  1. brr1
                    brr1 14 November 2015 09: 40 New
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                    Why is it sure that the Germans will be tougher than the French to react.
                    1. vyinemeynen
                      vyinemeynen 14 November 2015 10: 06 New
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                      The purpose of the terrorist attacks in Germany will be to remove from the Germans a complex of guilt for the Second World War, and then half a bast shoe to new fascism. Who will bring the enemy of the press.
                      1. vladkavkaz
                        vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 10: 09 New
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                        There are no good and bad terrorists.
                        Hard and soft.
                        Ours and strangers.
                        Namely, this logic guided the United States, Britain and other Western countries after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, justifying its inaction and its criticism of Russian actions.
                        It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                        Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.
                      2. vyinemeynen
                        vyinemeynen 14 November 2015 10: 21 New
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                        You made a decision for the French + wrote that the attack was useful. Can re-read the written!
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                        Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 14 November 2015 10: 33 New
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                        Quote: vyinemeynen
                        You made a decision for the French + wrote that the attack was useful. Can re-read the written!
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
                        Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.

                        so Vladikavkaz wink
                      4. vladkavkaz
                        vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 11: 30 New
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                        atalef
                        Are you worried about something?
                        Or do you have a lack of vitamins for brain activity, as a result of which you poorly grasp the nuances of Russian speech and the meaning of what is written?
                        You look here, with all your gang, you are already bouncing with pleasure that this happened in Paris on Saturday, and even with the cries of the terrorists "for Syria", meaning that you and your kind consider the source of all ills, Russia, not the West, feeding another monster, like a brown mutant nourished by him.
                      5. atalef
                        atalef 14 November 2015 11: 51 New
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                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Are you worried about something?

                        Islamic extremism and more than one year
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        Or do you have a lack of vitamins for brain activity, as a result of which you poorly grasp the nuances of Russian speech and the meaning of what is written?

                        There are enough vitamins, and there are no problems with Russian
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        You look here, with your whole gang, you are already bouncing with pleasure that this happened in Paris,

                        belay
                        Of course, I understand that you would prefer the Jews to do it, but there are no miracles, these are Muslims again
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        that you and your kind consider the source of all ills, Russia,

                        Russia belay Is Russia a Muslim country? By you
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        lack of vitamins for brain activity, as a result of which you poorly grasp the nuances of Russian speech and the meaning of what is written

                        I wrote the extremist trend of Islam and its support by moderate Muslims (not all, but many)
                        Quote: vladkavkaz
                        and not the West, which nourished the next monster, in the likeness of the brown mutant nurtured by it.

                        C'mon, everything is west, but the fed ones have nothing to do with it.
                        It’s not the West that cuts heads, shoots children and rapes women. If you don’t pay, I won’t do it.
                        Having written this, you say only one thing, Muslims are a herd of sheep - managed, without their own opinions, ready to shovel anything and fulfill someone else's will.
                        Remember - the West or the States (as you say) - did it, they themselves reached this point or they were forced by aliens --- does not play a role
                        They are a beast, they teach their children to kill - and all this, not with the Bible or the Torah in your pocket - all with the name of the Koran.
                        Why? You answer, these are your co-religionists.
                      6. Tusv
                        Tusv 14 November 2015 12: 19 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Is Russia a Muslim country?

                        Imagine Yes! In Crimea and Tatarstan, the main Islamic holidays are weekends. And also Buddhist, Jewish, Pagan and Christian
                      7. atalef
                        atalef 14 November 2015 12: 30 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Quote: atalef
                        Is Russia a Muslim country?

                        Imagine, yes!

                        Russians will like it wink
                        Quote: Tusv
                        In Crimea and Tatarstan, the main Islamic holidays are weekends.

                        And now what? Does it make Russia a Muslim country?
                        Quote: Tusv
                        And also Buddhist, Jewish, Pagan and Christian

                        No, and remember that. Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish and not pagan.
                        ORTHODOX - was. is and will be.
                        It does not humiliate your religion or anyone else's
                        It is a fact . whether you like it or not.
                      8. Tusv
                        Tusv 14 November 2015 12: 46 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        No, and remember that. Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish and not pagan.
                        ORTHODOX - was. is and will be.
                        It does not humiliate your religion or anyone else's
                        It is a fact . do you like him or not

                        What am I talking about? How is the word Orthodox translated in Greek?
                      9. atalef
                        atalef 14 November 2015 12: 59 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Tusv
                        What am I talking about?

                        you tell me about it

                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Quote: atalef
                        Is Russia a Muslim country?
                        Imagine, yes!

                        Quote: Tusv
                        How is the word Orthodox translated in Greek?

                        And what’s this? Believe me, I know the meaning of the word
                    2. Tusv
                      Tusv 14 November 2015 12: 56 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Russians will like it

                      My great-grandfather rose to the rank of colonel in the tsarist army, raising the maximum for a Jew. My grandfather's brothers were the first diplomats of the USSR. Why do you think my mother married a Russian?
                    3. atalef
                      atalef 14 November 2015 13: 06 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Tusv
                      My great-grandfather rose to the rank of colonel in the tsarist army, raising the maximum for a Jew.

                      So all the same there was a maximum?
                      Quote: Tusv
                      My grandfather's brothers were the first diplomats of the USSR. Why do you think my mother married a Russian?

                      I fell in love. probably ?
                    4. Tusv
                      Tusv 14 November 2015 13: 23 New
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      I fell in love. probably ?

                      What do you think? Result - I am Russian with Jewish brains. The funny thing is that dad - Russian explained the math
                    5. atalef
                      atalef 14 November 2015 13: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: Tusv
                      What do you think? Result - I am Russian with Jewish brains

                      And what are they? Well, Jewish brains?
                      Quote: Tusv
                      The funny thing is that dad - Russian explained the math

                      So is it bad with math?
                      (Well, you understand, Jewish brains (mothers), and Dad explained the math)
                    6. Tusv
                      Tusv 14 November 2015 13: 48 New
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      So is it bad with math?
                      (Well, you understand, Jewish brains (mothers), and Dad explained the math)

                      Imagine that the Equator is clamped with a metal hoop, but someone inserted one meter into the hoop, do you think a cat will crawl through?
                    7. atalef
                      atalef 14 November 2015 13: 57 New
                      0
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Quote: atalef
                      So is it bad with math?
                      (Well, you understand, Jewish brains (mothers), and Dad explained the math)

                      Imagine that the Equator is clamped with a metal hoop, but someone inserted one meter into the hoop, do you think a cat will crawl through?

                      No, I don’t need a refrigerator, I don’t smoke. hi
                    8. Tusv
                      Tusv 14 November 2015 14: 37 New
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                      Quote: atalef
                      No, I don’t need a refrigerator, I don’t smoke.

                      You do not know how to solve the simplest mathematical problems, so why the hell are you teaching someone?
                    9. atalef
                      atalef 14 November 2015 14: 41 New
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                      Quote: Tusv
                      Quote: atalef
                      No, I don’t need a refrigerator, I don’t smoke.

                      You do not know how to solve the simplest mathematical problems, so why the hell are you teaching someone?

                      well dad didn't teach me math laughing
                    10. Tusv
                      Tusv 14 November 2015 15: 04 New
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      well dad didn't teach me math

                      Not knowing the laws does not exempt from liability. Well, such a Newton sat, reasoning that power is equal to counteraction and here bam. pumpkin pumpkin - adnak's gravity drinks
                    11. atalef
                      atalef 14 November 2015 15: 10 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Not knowing the laws does not exempt from liability.

                      of course, especially regarding
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Equator is clamped by a metal hoop

                      Quote: Tusv
                      Well, such a Newton sat, reasoning that power is equal to counteraction and here bam. pumpkin pumpkin - adnak's gravity

                      Fate, but someone killed the same gravity by activating a brick, and yes, with a brain , he did not have time to think of anything.
                    12. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 14 November 2015 20: 23 New
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                      Hollande also decided to refuse to participate in the G16 summit, due on November XNUMX in Turkey. “France will be represented by Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius and Finance Minister Michel Sapin,” the presidential office specified.

                      The Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Paris. The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activities are prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    13. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 14 November 2015 20: 24 New
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                      The Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Paris. The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activities are prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    14. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 14 November 2015 20: 24 New
                      +1
                      The Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Paris. The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activities are prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    15. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 14 November 2015 20: 25 New
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                      The Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Paris. The Supreme Court of Russia recognized the Islamic State as a terrorist organization, its activities are prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    2. andj61
      andj61 14 November 2015 13: 58 New
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      Quote: Tusv
      Imagine that the Equator is clamped with a metal hoop, but someone inserted one meter into the hoop, do you think a cat will crawl through?

      Not only the cat, but also, perhaps, the bear will leak out, if not very large. fellow And what - a hoop for the equator is already being prepared, and someone submitted a rational proposal to increase the length of the hoop by 1 m? what hi
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 14 November 2015 14: 40 New
      0
      Quote: andj61
      Not only the cat, but also, perhaps, the bear will leak out, if not very large.

      No, the bear won't crawl, But the little bear will crawl
    4. andj61
      andj61 14 November 2015 16: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Tusv
      Quote: andj61
      Not only the cat, but also, perhaps, the bear will leak out, if not very large.

      No, the bear won't crawl, But the little bear will crawl

      I am amazed - absolutely neutral posts, both for me and for you, Vladimir. Minutes why? Offended by a simple math problem? what hi
    5. Throw
      Throw 14 November 2015 17: 02 New
      +7
      Here Mlyn met two Jewish mathematics and found the "best" thread in the forum to flood ... negative
  2. pilot8878
    pilot8878 14 November 2015 13: 00 New
    +3
    Quote: atalef
    Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

    Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.
  3. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 05 New
    +5
    Quote: pilot8878
    Quote: atalef
    Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

    Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.

    This is of course understandable, so to speak, for the protocol.
    But I will say it again, Russia is primarily an Orthodox country. it was so and I hope it will remain so.
  4. Tusv
    Tusv 14 November 2015 13: 32 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Russia is primarily an Orthodox country. it was so and I hope it will remain so.

    We converge on the word Orthodox. Everything is on the right. Christians are Orthodox, Muslims are Orthodox. Just read the history of the Russian State - a maximum of a non-Christian was honed in a monastery. Neither to you stones by all paissey, nor the burning of witches, nor what nights of long knives and Bartholomew's nights
  5. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 48 New
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    Quote: Tusv
    We converge on the word Orthodox. Everything is on the right. Christians - Orthodox, Muslims - Orthodox

    Right-hand movement, right hand (usually stronger than the left)
    --- And everyone else who? Left-handed and left-handed?
    I read here
    . However, by that time the Chukchi themselves considered themselves the main aboriginal tribe, calling themselves louravellanes (by real people)

    do you understand my train of thought
    Quote: Tusv
    Just read the history of the Russian State - maximum non-believer was honed in a monastery

    Otherworld in the monastery belay ? And what was he doing there?

    Quote: Tusv
    Neither to you stones by all paissey, nor the burning of witches, nor what nights of long knives and Bartholomew's nights

    Yes, it’s difficult with history, read
    A contemporary Habakkuk wrote about self-immolation, as a response to burning.
    http://feb-web.ru/feb/avvakum/texts/jag/JAG-230-.HTM
    speed is glorious in Nizhny: heretics are burning, and the demons, dissolve themselves in love and cry for good faith, did not wait for heretical condemnation, they themselves dared to fire
    People did not wait for a "heretical condemnation."
    In Siberia, it is certain that the burning began first, and only then self-immolation.
    http://www.kgau.ru/distance/culture/cont/sibir/glava2S.html
    Unseen by cruelty acts of the struggle of the authorities with the Old Believers preceded the voluntary self-immolation of the inhabitants of the skete. It is known, for example, that on February 28, 1676, the Old Believers were burned by the now Tobolsk authorities, acting under the framework of all-Russian repressive legislation. And this execution of the schismatics was not the only one, according to the Siberian Chronicle Code, it is known that in 1683 a similar burning of the Old Believers, who did not want to die during the Utyatsk self-immolation, was carried out by the authorities in Tobolsk.

    So, on February 28, 1676, the first burning in Siberia. And the first self-immolation in Siberia was, you know, when? Only in 1679. In the same 1679, the Old Believers' bridge tale "followed, where they threatened the authorities with self-immolation if they ... arrest one of them in order to force them to renounce their faith. The obvious answer to the persecution.
    Then, the Uyatsk self-immolation along the Siberian Chronicle Code followed after the punitive troops moved on the Uyatsk Old Believers. Moreover, those Old Believers who did not burn out in Utyatskaya Sloboda were arrested, tortured and ... burned. And why, one wonders, for the Old Believers, under such conditions, not to burn themselves?

    Do you want to throw more examples of pages on 10 and about witches the same.
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 14 November 2015 14: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Atalef
    Yes, it’s difficult with history, read

    If you know the story, why bother to Israel? I have a day today - while still alive, do you want to talk in a personal on theosophical topics?
  7. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 14: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Tusv
    If you know the story, why bother to Israel?

    belay
    Quote: Tusv
    me today - while alive, do you want to talk in a personal on theosophical topics?

    theological?
    start, I don’t have a day (by the way with you Day !!! drinks ), but I will find the time.
  8. Bayonet
    Bayonet 14 November 2015 19: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Tusv
    If you know the story, why bother to Israel?

    Didn’t you read the case of Vladimir Kunin - Ivanov and Rabinovich, or “Ay Go Tu Haifa!”? I advise, maybe then some questions will disappear. http://royallib.com/book/kunin_vladimir/ivanov_i_rabinovich_ili_ay_gou_tu_hayfa.

    html
    Congratulations on your birthday! All the best! hi
  9. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 15 November 2015 11: 45 New
    -1
    Tusv (5
    We have in Russia, a certain society of "Free historians", a rare panopticon of Rus-haters and liars.
    Just there, shots that are oriented towards inciting ethnic and religious hatred, just like your opponent, are directly stacked in piles.
  10. andj61
    andj61 14 November 2015 16: 47 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Right-hand movement, right hand (usually stronger than the left)
    --- And everyone else who? Left-handed and left-handed?

    Well, some very smart ones wink - the movement is also left-hand! Are they - Small Britain, India, Japan, South Africa - are all left-handed? repeat Or the left? lol By the way, according to the Kazan railway, it seems, before Ryazan, the movement is also left-sided - the Aglitz engineers in the era of terrible tsarism made a mistake! fellow
    And in Orthodoxy, the first part of the word in the right-left system is not worth considering, it is necessary in the system right-wrong, of course, everyone considers himself right, right, etc.
  11. poquello
    poquello 14 November 2015 13: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: pilot8878
    Quote: atalef
    Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

    Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.

    This is of course understandable, so to speak, for the protocol.
    But I will say it again, Russia is primarily an Orthodox country. it was so and I hope it will remain so.

    Khatabych? Tell me again, and 20 million Russian Muslims will disappear?
  12. onix757
    onix757 14 November 2015 13: 36 New
    0
    Tell me again, and 20 million Russian Muslims will disappear?

    Well, what are you saying? In our country, on the contrary, population growth is observed throughout the country.
  13. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: poquello
    Khatabych? Tell me again, and 20 million Russian Muslims will disappear?

    They will not disappear, just as Jews or Buddhists will not disappear.
    Russia is simply perceived as an Orthodox country. Dot.
    And don't prove me the opposite.
    Have you seen a mosque or a synagogue or a pagoda on the territory of the Kremlin?
    No ? And you will not see.
  14. Tusv
    Tusv 14 November 2015 14: 52 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Have you seen a mosque or a synagogue or a pagoda on the territory of the Kremlin?

    St. Basil’s Cathedral doesn’t resemble anything? Of course there doesn’t smell like a Buddhist pagoda, but even so it’s not European architecture
  15. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 15: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: atalef
    Have you seen a mosque or a synagogue or a pagoda on the territory of the Kremlin?

    St. Basil’s Cathedral doesn’t resemble anything? Of course there doesn’t smell like a Buddhist pagoda, but even so it’s not European architecture

    Well, it’s good that the bell tower of Ivan the Great does not cause you to associate with the minaret
    Quote: Tusv
    but even so it’s not European architecture

    Pokrovsky Cathedral was built in 1555-1561 by order of Ivan the Terrible in memory of the capture of Kazan and the victory over the Kazan Khanate, which happened on the day of the Protection of the Holy Virgin - in early October 1552. There are several versions about the creators of the cathedral. According to one version, the architect was the famous Pskov master Postnik Yakovlev, nicknamed Barma. According to another, well-known version, Barma and Postnik are two different architects [2], both involved in the construction; this version is now outdated [3] [4]. According to the third version, the cathedral was built by an unknown West European master (presumably Italian, as before, a significant part of the Moscow Kremlin’s structures), hence the unique style that combines the traditions of both Russian architecture and European Renaissance architecture, but this version has not yet found any clear documentary evidence.

    I'm not special at all. in these matters, I do not have my own opinion on this matter.
    Look for someone a Black Square is a masterpiece, for me nothing at all, but it turns out that the struggle of two blacks in a black cave 9 as the latest studies by art critics say)
    Therefore, that reminds me of the HVB-- the Orthodox Church .-- everything.
  16. Russiamoy
    Russiamoy 14 November 2015 18: 41 New
    +1
    Russia, with a capital letter, at least out of respect or courtesy.
    I agree with you, but there is a difference officially and is perceived.
  17. pilot8878
    pilot8878 14 November 2015 16: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Russia is primarily an Orthodox country

    Allow me to disagree with you, Alexander. It all depends on the region. Here, in St. Petersburg and the region, of course, the bulk of the population is Orthodox. But come, for example, to Chechnya ... But this is also a region of Russia. Yes, and here I am already beginning to doubt the numerical superiority of the Orthodox. There are so many guests from Asia (by the way, Muslims) that it’s easier to meet them on the street than “a person of Slavic nationality”.
    It is not a matter of religion at all. The point is in God: he looked into this soul or not. And whoever calls their God as their name is not the point. It is not the Bible, the Torah, or the Qur'an that kills. Kills the bullet that the person’s hand directs.
  18. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 19: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: pilot8878
    Allow me to disagree with you, Alexander. It all depends on the region. Here, in St. Petersburg and the region, of course, the bulk of the population is Orthodox

    Where do you live in the area?
    Quote: pilot8878
    But come, for example, to Chechnya ... But this is also a region of Russia

    Birobidzhan is probably the same region, but it does not make Russia Jewish
    Quote: pilot8878
    . Yes, and here I am already beginning to doubt the numerical superiority of the Orthodox

    In vain, and this is bad, Russia must remain an Orthodox country in its mass
    Quote: pilot8878
    It is not a matter of religion at all. Matter in God

    Leave it to the Christians. Jews and Muslims - one God.
    Quote: pilot8878
    . It is not the Bible, the Torah, or the Qur'an that kills. Kills the bullet that the person’s hand directs.

    No need to deaden religion. Religion (more precisely, its preachers) is that which will calmly send a person to both death and to kill others - while he will be completely confident in his innocence and happy
    Religion (in our case, Islam - or rather, its imams) is the platform of most terrorists, face the truth.
  19. pilot8878
    pilot8878 14 November 2015 19: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Russia must remain an Orthodox country in its mass

    I have nothing to object to you. smile
    Quote: atalef
    among Christians. Jews and Muslims - one God.

    Which does not prevent the above from regularly fighting and cutting each other.
    Quote: atalef
    Birobidzhan is probably the same region, but it does not make Russia Jewish

    Russia, as I said a little earlier, is not a religious state
    Quote: atalef
    Where do you live in the area?

    Gatchina
    Quote: atalef
    Religion (more precisely, its preachers) is that which will calmly send a person to both death and to kill others - while he will be completely confident in his innocence and happy
    Religion (in our case, Islam - or rather, its imams) is the platform of most terrorists, face it.

    I can’t consider myself a specialist in religions, but I have never met calls for the murder of my neighbor neither in Orthodoxy nor in Islam, although I specifically asked the mullah when he was in Kazakhstan.
    Therefore, I cannot name those who call for war, murder, and terror as an attacker, criminal, and sectarian. In the old days they called such troublemakers - they cause confusion in the souls and among the people.
  20. onix757
    onix757 14 November 2015 13: 09 New
    +5
    That's it, and therefore the relationship should be built on a respectful relationship on the principle that we set up the largest mosque in Europe, ethnic republics build Orthodox churches of the appropriate size. That's right. In the meantime, all relationships look like "take whatever you want, just don’t be offended"
  21. Saburov
    Saburov 14 November 2015 18: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: pilot8878
    Quote: atalef
    Russia is an Orthodox country, neither Muslim nor Jewish

    Russia is a multinational and multiconfessional country.


    No, in Russia 76% profess Orthodoxy, 6% profess Islam, all other religions are divided by 1% and the rest consider themselves atheists. So Russia is an Orthodox country, based on the vast majority of believers.
  22. pilot8878
    pilot8878 14 November 2015 18: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Saburov
    So Russia is an Orthodox country, based on the vast majority of believers.

    Quote: andj61
    officially speaks of the four traditional religions in Russia - Christianity in the form of Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism.

    In fact, the Russian Federation is a secular state, as specified in the Constitution. Art. 28 guarantees literally the following: “freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, including the right to profess individually or jointly with others any religion or not to profess any, freely choose, have and disseminate religious and other beliefs and act in accordance with them”, further, the Federal Law from September 26, 1997 No. 125-ФЗ “On Freedom of Conscience and on Religious Associations” confirms “equality before the law regardless of attitude to religion and belief”.
    Based on the foregoing, I repeat: Russia is NOT a Christian (Orthodox), NOT Islamic, NOT any other religious state. The Russian Federation is a secular multinational and multiconfessional state.
  23. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 19: 12 New
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    Quote: pilot8878
    In fact, the Russian Federation is a secular state, as specified in the Constitution. Art. 28 guarantees literally the following: “freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, including

    leave the institute and CC. In the USSR, in general, it seemed like there was no religion, but members of the Politburo celebrated the same Easter.
    Therefore, officialdom was separated from reality.
    Quote: pilot8878
    : Russia is NOT a Christian (Orthodox), NOT Islamic, NOT any other religious state.

    Russia is not a religious state, but Russia is a country with a predominantly Orthodox population, playing a huge role in the awareness of the country as a country and of Russians as a nation.
    I’ll tell you more - Orthodoxy, this is one of the basics of Russianness (I would say so).
    It is not necessary to separate Russia from Orthodoxy, this is not correct and does not reflect the reality
  24. pilot8878
    pilot8878 14 November 2015 20: 03 New
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    Quote: atalef
    members of the Politburo celebrated the same Easter.

    Separating officialdom from reality. Every year we celebrate Ivan Kupala, which is a pagan holiday. Findings?
    Quote: atalef
    Orthodoxy, this is one of the foundations of Russianness

    I can not completely agree with you. The basis of “Russianness” is to feel Russian, to identify with Russia. Orthodoxy, as a religion, being put at the forefront, will automatically sweep away non-Orthodox Tajiks, Kazakhs, Jews, Azerbaijanis and many other soldiers of the Great Patriotic War who were dying RUSSIAN in spirit. In our country it is NOT possible to talk about the predominance of religion, since this is a disconnecting idea that separates Russians from, for example, Ingush or Tatars.
    Ideas of dominance are good in mono-ethnic states. Therefore, the ideas of excellence set forth in Mein Kampf fell on fertile soil in Germany.
    In general, I personally really like the idea of ​​the Bolsheviks about the separation of religion from the state. She allowed to circumvent acute religious angles and to engage in the joint construction of a new state in which the same Tatar or Dagestan did not feel like a second-class man. Of course, the USSR was not perfect either, but the problems were the same for everyone, regardless of the “fifth column”.
  25. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 23: 47 New
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    Quote: pilot8878
    Separating officialdom from reality. Every year we celebrate Ivan Kupala, which is a pagan holiday. Findings?

    None. bacchanalia were also remnants of idolatry and local features are present in any Christian movement
    Quote: pilot8878
    I can not completely agree with you. The basis of “Russianness” is to feel Russian, to identify with Russia. Orthodoxy, as a religion, being put at the forefront, will automatically sweep away non-Orthodox Tajiks, Kazakhs, Jews, Azerbaijanis and many other fighters of World War II.

    What is the general connection between Russianness and the Second World War?
    Of course, Kazakhs, Tajiks and Jews are not Russians and cannot feel themselves a priori.

    Quote: pilot8878
    our country SHOULD NOT talk about the predominance of religion, since this is a disconnecting idea that separates Russians from, for example, Ingush or Tatars.

    And where does it? I said that Orthodoxy is one of the pillars of Russianness, there are others as well.
    I’m not talking about religion, I’m talking about the feeling of Russians as Russians and it is impossible to separate Russians from Orthodoxy.
  26. poquello
    poquello 14 November 2015 20: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: pilot8878
    In fact, the Russian Federation is a secular state

    Russia is not a religious state, but Russia is a country with a predominantly Orthodox population, playing a huge role in the awareness of the country as a country and of Russians as a nation.
    I’ll tell you more - Orthodoxy, this is one of the basics of Russianness (I would say so).
    It is not necessary to separate Russia from Orthodoxy, this is not correct and does not reflect the reality

    so to separate other religions from Russia is also not right, but in part you are right
  27. pilot8878
    pilot8878 14 November 2015 20: 47 New
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    Quote: poquello
    so to separate other religions from Russia is also not right, but in part you are right

    By the way, Carey Hiroyuki Tagawa converted to Orthodoxy under the name Panteleimon and, it seems, filed a request for the adoption of Russian citizenship.
  28. poquello
    poquello 14 November 2015 21: 30 New
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    Quote: pilot8878
    Quote: poquello
    so to separate other religions from Russia is also not right, but in part you are right

    By the way, Carey Hiroyuki Tagawa converted to Orthodoxy under the name Panteleimon and, it seems, filed a request for the adoption of Russian citizenship.

    Yes, also for permanent residence we are going to
  29. Saburov
    Saburov 14 November 2015 23: 47 New
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    I myself am an atheist and I know the Constitution very well ... but I gave you an example of the number of citizens of the Russian Federation professing Orthodoxy ... and it was from this point of view that I showed you that Russia is not a multiconfessional country, namely Orthodox ... and there’s no talk about the structure of the state went on.
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  31. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 16 New
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    Quote: Russiamoya
    but it wouldn’t. 2 official religions - Orthodoxy and Islam (in all official sources).

    Can I have a source?
  32. andj61
    andj61 14 November 2015 14: 00 New
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    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Russiamoya
    but it wouldn’t. 2 official religions - Orthodoxy and Islam (in all official sources).

    Can I have a source?

    In fact, it is quite officially spoken about the four traditional religions in Russia - Christianity in the form of Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism.
  33. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 14: 09 New
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    Quote: andj61
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Russiamoya
    but it wouldn’t. 2 official religions - Orthodoxy and Islam (in all official sources).

    Can I have a source?

    In fact, it is quite officially spoken about the four traditional religions in Russia - Christianity in the form of Orthodoxy, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism.

    otozh hi
  34. Russiamoy
    Russiamoy 14 November 2015 18: 20 New
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    modern encyclopedias, avantha (I mean official sources, and allowed by the Ministry of Culture).
  35. Russiamoy
    Russiamoy 14 November 2015 18: 31 New
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    atalef, have you read my comment? went to her library - this is the exact source: atlas of the world. Moscow. from the machaon 2009. p. 44.
  36. Banshee
    Banshee 14 November 2015 13: 15 New
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    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: atalef
    Is Russia a Muslim country?
    Imagine, yes!


    Wow ... this discovery ... and I, a sinner, all my life believed that we have a multinational structure and religion is separated from the state ... because so many of them get along.

    Sorry, I live in another Russia?
  37. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 19: 14 New
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    Quote: Banshee
    Wow ... this discovery ... and I, a sinner, all my life believed that we have a multinational structure and religion is separated from the state ... because so many of them get along.

    Sorry, I live in another Russia?

    Hello Roman !!
    This is of course understandable and tolerant, but we will be honest, it is not possible to separate Russia and Orthodoxy.
  38. andj61
    andj61 14 November 2015 19: 25 New
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    Quote: atalef
    This is of course understandable and tolerant, but we will be honest, it is not possible to separate Russia and Orthodoxy.

    Come on, Alexander: many of us are as Orthodox as you Jews — the only difference is in “underpants and crosses.” bully We, of course, have a cross - so that there is no misunderstanding. fellow
    That is, religion for very, very many is simply a certain tradition, nothing more. But there really are very few churchy people. Friends and good acquaintances from my environment — hundreds of people, one and a half or two people, just two really churchy families who regularly attend church, receive communion, etc. yes
    And Russia, rather, is not an Orthodox, but an atheistic country, just like the heiress of the USSR. winked And the country's leadership - also a tribute to tradition - goes to church, judging by the picture, much more often than ordinary citizens. Especially touching is the presence of overt Jews and Muslims and Buddhists in the service! laughing
  39. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 20: 02 New
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    atalef (8)
    Well .. deleting the comment, as an attempt to impose one’s opinion, is not the most neat technique, but God is with you, I forgive your weakness.

    Now let's move on to the most blatant lies that you wrote, as if my opinion was alleged.

    A) "C'mon, everything is west, but the fed ones have nothing to do with it.
    It’s not the West that cuts heads, shoots children and rapes women. If you don’t pay, I won’t do it. "- you can really not cut your heads, but REALLY contribute to ethnic hatred, what are you doing here right now.
    With regard to the participation of training, arming gangs, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and now, ISIS, the West, this fact is undeniable.
    The beast was fed like that at one time, they fed in Germany 30 years of the last century.

    B) "Having written this, you affirm only one thing, Muslims are a herd of sheep - managed, without their own opinions, ready to shove anything and fulfill someone else's will.
    Remember - the West or the States (as you say) - they did it, they themselves reached this point or they were forced by aliens --- it does not matter "" - Another lie, I wrote this one- "Quote: vladkavkaz
    The West, which nurtured another monster like a brown mutant nurtured by it. "- Having a minimal education, understands that brown Germany Hitler was fed by the Anglo-Saxons, directly contributing to the restoration of the military-industrial complex and the Reichswehr, the Wehrmacht, with the aim of inciting the Munich agreement to the USSR, namely the event that unleashed the Second World War.
    Thus, having written what I wrote, only a very gifted person will see in the written, at least something that resembles the FALSE you wrote, supposedly on my behalf.
    C) "They are a beast, they teach their children to kill - and all this, not with the Bible or the Torah in your pocket - all this with the name of the Koran." - ISIS leaders and their gang, not all of Islam, should not lie and distort .
    If there are photos on the Web of your kids with "wishes on the shells", then who is blaming whom and what?
    Understand yourself before blaming others.

    D) "Why? You answer, these are your co-religionists." - I will answer, another FALSE in your execution.
    It is not for me to write something that in no way applies, neither to my nationality, nor even to my religion.

    At the expense of my fellow citizens who have a Muslim religion, there are many of them in our country, which does not bother me in any way to live, work and communicate with them.
    Stupid, useless, loafers and ignoramuses are found in every nation, therefore your statement that Muslims- "They are a beast, they teach their children how to kill" is an attempt to insult a large group of the Russian population who belong to Islam.

    As for my people, the Russians, we are strong in that we have the nobility, accepting Gentiles to our country, making them friends, unlike you, making everyone around and enemies.
    Compare the territory of Russia and the number of peoples in it having different religions, a comparison with you is deadly for you, clearly and absolutely, not in your favor.

    Why do you need such a provocative activity on this site?
  40. His
    His 14 November 2015 14: 28 New
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    Atalef you are our beloved. Something became similar to Satanovsky.
  41. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 10: 47 New
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    vyinemeynen
    And you therefore cannot read and understand what is written?
    Are you Charlie Ebdo?
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  43. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 11: 31 New
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    vyinemeynen
    Once again the question is, are you Charlie Eudo?
    I begin to strongly doubt your ability to think.
  44. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 11: 52 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    vyinemeynen
    Once again the question is, are you Charlie Eudo?
    I begin to strongly doubt your ability to think.

    Well, cut off his head.
  45. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 12: 15 New
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    atalef (8
    Make it easier, close your fountain of evil speaking, you are unpleasant and not particularly smart.
  46. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 12: 32 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    atalef (8
    Make it easier, close your fountain of evil speaking, you are unpleasant and not particularly smart.

    Well, no arguing against the truth. yeahhhhh?
  47. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 12: 34 New
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    atalef (
    For you, there is no truth. There is a lie, but with the truth ... you have always had great problems, starting with Sodom and Gomorrah.
  48. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 12: 43 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    atalef (
    For you, there is no truth. There is a lie, but with the truth ... you have always had great problems, starting with Sodom and Gomorrah

    And for this we all need to cut off our heads?
  49. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 20: 53 New
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    atalef (8)
    Why so clearly try to lie ...
    A) Removing comments in which there is not a single hint of the need for someone to cut something off there, except for the need to destroy ISIS.
    B) So clumsy, trying to provoke the community to incite ethnic and religious hatred?
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  51. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 12: 33 New
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    Throw
    For some reason, this is not at all surprised.
    See in blood a tendency to provocation ..
  52. yushch
    yushch 14 November 2015 11: 34 New
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    Quote: vyinemeynen
    You made a decision for the French + wrote that the attack was useful. Can re-read the written!
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
    Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.


    No matter how terrible this sounds, any kind of tragedy of this kind is useful. It is like a combat charter that is written in blood. A certain algorithm of actions is being developed to prevent and minimize such tragedies in the future from which, unfortunately, no one is immune today. And the fact that terror will be intensified I think no one doubts.
  53. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 14 November 2015 11: 00 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    There are no good and bad terrorists.
    Hard and soft.

    First of all, I want to express my condolences to the families and friends of the deceased and a speedy recovery to the wounded.
    France pays for its adventurous policy, Germany is not safe from this either, also at risk, now security in Europe is illusive.
    They will probably understand soon what they have done, events may have a progression, for this all conditions have been created in Europe.
    Greetings from Gaddafi and Hussein from the other world.
  54. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 11: 34 New
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    saturn.mmm
    Thank you, you have correctly formulated everything.
    I’ll add, the United States, they’ll have their own gesheft in any case, because ISIS is their product.
    The Anglo-Saxons will not miss their own, and all their hypocrisy, expressed now as sympathy, is clearly visible to everyone who has the ability to understand the situation.
  55. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 11: 54 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Thank you, you have correctly formulated everything.
    I’ll add, the United States, they’ll have their own gesheft in any case, because ISIS is their product.

    Speaking - ISIS. you turn it into something inanimate.
    Answer me - who is in ISIS? Who is fighting there? Why do your neighbors go there (in the city)? Under the banner of which religion are they fighting? What language do they speak? From which countries?
  56. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 12: 14 New
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    atalef
    I would have walked past an empty meaningful post, but caught my eye in the dirt towards my city and neighbors.
    What is ISIS in Israel do not know? Even helping ISIS, Israel does not know what it is?
    Lying when to stop?
    The Israeli Air Force, insolently bombing the positions of GOVERNMENTAL forces, but nowhere, didn’t seek to defeat ISIS, is it because this damn invention, together with the USA?
    The leaders of ISIS, it’s not sad for you, everyone is grown up in special nurseries in the USA, the beast was fattened there, lured and released, in your interests.
    So you shouldn’t pour crocodile tears here and try to appropriate your dirty affairs to those who are guilty of this.
    "At the moment, has Russia distanced itself from the fight against ISIS?
    - We are engaged in our own security, our country has done much more to combat ISIS than the United States, supplying military equipment to those governments (Syria, Iran, Iraq) that are fighting with them. Russia is not obligated at all and, most likely, will not knock on a coalition assembled by the United States and existing for advertising and political purposes for the President of America. States fight by methods that are worthless and are not capable of stopping any terrorists. "Quote, E. Satanovsky.
    http://lifenews.ru/mobile/news/169684
    And this is his interview, the clever will understand what is said.
    http://russnov.ru/evgenij-satanovskij-terroristicheskaya-ataka-na-parizh/
  57. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 12: 20 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    I would have walked past an empty post, but I caught my eye on the dirt in the direction of my city and neighbors.

    Do not take it personally, but in ISIS there are from your city and possibly neighbors
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    What is ISIS in Israel do not know?

    They know Muslims are Sunnis
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    even helping ISIS, Israel does not know what it is?

    ISIS in Israel is recognized as a terrorist organization and Israel does not help them
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    The Israeli Air Force, brazenly bombing the positions of GOVERNMENTAL forces, but nowhere else, did not seek to defeat ISIS

    Assad rakes, knows why.
    ISIS is not near Israel and does not shoot at us (for now, anyway) - why should we crawl into your Islamic squabbles?
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    oh, everyone is grown up in special nurseries in the USA, the beast was fed there, nastuskivaetsya and released, in your interests.

    OK, but who is all this beast? Americans? Islamists Russians fed the same thing in the US?
    They are united by one thing - they are all Muslims - Sunnis
  58. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 12: 37 New
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    atalef (8
    An empty comment.
    Where to learn to lie?
  59. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 12: 45 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    An empty comment.
    Where to learn to lie?

    What about Muslim Russians in ISIS?
    Is this a secret just for you? belay
  60. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 14 November 2015 12: 41 New
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    "Islamists Russians", as you put it, are actively financed from abroad. During the counter-terrorism wars in the territory of sowing. The Caucasus, more active, is now more howling ... Most of their leaders studied in Saudi Arabia. A part has positions in foreign non-profit foundations, mainly British. Continue?
    And I ask you, henceforth, not to put Igilov's scum on a par with my compatriots Russians, these people no longer have a homeland, a nation, they sold it all and betrayed it.
    Or there, both in your country and in the US State Department, they are already racking their brains as Russians blame the death of the French?
  61. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 12: 49 New
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    Quote: Observer 33
    The Islamists are Russians, "as you put it, actively financed from abroad. During the counterterrorist wars in the territory of the North Caucasus, it was more active now ... Most of their leaders studied in Saudi Arabia. Some of them have positions in foreign non-profit foundations, mainly British. Continue?

    go on, of course. are they Russians or who? Here come to you, give me the money, will you go to fight? And why are they - yes?
    Quote: Observer 33
    And I ask you, henceforth, not to put Igilovsky scum on a par with my compatriots Russians,

    In a family, it’s not without a freak that you are a Russian in any way does not deprive them (bandits) of citizenship or entry in your passport - place of birth - Russian Federation
    Quote: Observer 33
    and, these already have no homeland, nation, they sold it all and betrayed it.

    There is a homeland and a nation - and things should be called by their proper names
    And how something outstanding is the way the Motherland and the nation exist, and how not, so neither the homeland nor the nation
    Quote: Observer 33
    Or there, both in your country and in the US State Department, they are already racking their brains as Russians blame the death of the French?

    fool
  62. Tusv
    Tusv 14 November 2015 13: 05 New
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    Quote: Atalef
    There is a homeland and a nation - and things should be called by their proper names
    And how something outstanding is the way the Motherland and the nation exist, and how not, so neither the homeland nor the nation

    For Russians, there is a concept of homeland and it is sacred, and a nation is a concept for the Nazis. Gumilyov more correctly described in the "Biosphere of the Earth"
  63. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 12 New
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    Quote: Tusv
    For Russians, there is the concept of Homeland and it is sacred,

    Here come on without slogans.
    Of course it’s clear. that I give an example - you will say that this person is not Russian
    Quote: Tusv
    and the nation is a concept for the Nazis

    Nation (from lat. Natio - tribe, people

    There are two main approaches to understanding a nation: as a political community of citizens of a certain state and as an ethnic community (a form of existence of one or several ethnoses living together) with a single language and self-awareness.

    What do not you like ?
    maybe. and the fact that the Nazis in Germany, it is actually -nationalSOCIALISTS?
  64. Bayonet
    Bayonet 14 November 2015 20: 04 New
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    Quote: Observer 33
    And I ask you, henceforth, not to put Igilov's scum on a par with my compatriots Russians, these people no longer have a homeland, a nation, they sold it all and betrayed it.

    "According to various estimates, from five to seven thousand immigrants from Russia and other CIS countries are already fighting on the side of ISIS. And we, of course, cannot allow them to use the experience gained in Syria today at home," Putin said . So ask him not to line uprequest
  65. poquello
    poquello 14 November 2015 13: 20 New
    -1
    Quote: atalef

    They are united by one thing - they are all Muslims - Sunnis

    la la sectarians they
  66. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: atalef

    They are united by one thing - they are all Muslims - Sunnis

    la la sectarians they

    well = well.
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  68. BDRM 667
    BDRM 667 14 November 2015 13: 18 New
    +1
    Not in the subject, but I want to ask: Is it just me, or is it some kind of general failure?
  69. Banshee
    Banshee 14 November 2015 13: 50 New
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    This was a general failure caused by improper multi-citations. Corrected.
  70. Foxmara
    Foxmara 14 November 2015 11: 51 New
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    Quote: saturn.mmm
    They will probably understand soon what they have done.

    In less than two months? “do you even understand what you’ve done”
  71. Irokez
    Irokez 14 November 2015 11: 17 New
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    G20 must be canceled. Or, in Russia, we are safe.
    And they forgot Vanga’s predictions that they broadcast about the war in Europe and the outcome of the Europeans from Europe.
    Moreover, it was predicted that after the fall of Syria, the Third World War would begin and Russia would be on the sidelines, but would be drawn into this war. And so it happened. Namely:
    - Syria has fallen, but not as a country, but economically, "and will fall at the feet of the winner, but the winner will not be that." Who? Not the one who stirred her, but the one who will support and restore her (alliance Russia Iran and other peoples).
    - "Russia will be drawn into the war." Definitely dragged in because it affects our vital interests.
    - This is the third world in the whole world and not only economic and political between the poles, but also with the radicals.
    - Everything is clear about Europe - this is the beginning of the outcome.
    - And as always, Russia will save everyone (this is not a pathos statement) will save the right way and personal example, spirituality, human values, morality, ethics and so on.
    Now is the time that everyone must make a choice of who is who and if the choice is right, then with us, if not, to the margins of history. Neutrality is canceled, you can not or do not want to make a choice, it will be done for you, period.
  72. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 14 November 2015 12: 34 New
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    Well, yes, we have to take the “twenty”, in a safe place, on Wrangel Island, or on some kind of ice ... Soon all Europeans will be happy at least some hut in the taiga ... if only the head on their shoulders remains ...
  73. APASUS
    APASUS 14 November 2015 21: 50 New
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    Quote: Irokez
    and Wanga’s predictions about the war in Europe and the outcome of the Europeans from Europe. Moreover, it was predicted that after the fall of Syria the Third World War would begin and Russia would be on the sidelines, but would be drawn into this war.

    It's time to bring down from France!
  74. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 14 November 2015 22: 46 New
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    Quote: APASUS
    It's time

    that’s it, now storage: PUTIN ENTER THE MILITARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  75. Irokez
    Irokez 14 November 2015 23: 11 New
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    They have their own legion. Let them work - pretty tough guys.
  76. NIKNN
    NIKNN 14 November 2015 11: 25 New
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    vladkavkaz (8) SU Today, 10:09 AM

    There are no good and bad terrorists.
    Hard and soft.
    Ours and strangers.
    Namely, this logic guided the United States, Britain and other Western countries after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, justifying its inaction and its criticism of Russian actions.
    It used to be that Parisians and French could talk about the nuances and differences between good and bad terrorists.
    Now they do not care who will shoot them. And this is a good conclusion. Correct.


    Until statehood is destroyed (destroyed by the Americans) in the region (Syria, Iraq ...). until the carriers of homosexual democracy disappear from the region, the maximum that we can do is help the Syrians. Terrorism will threaten everyone. It is necessary to isolate the USA from the whole world with which it borders the water area, UNITY and restore normal civilized (not homosexual) relations between other countries.
  77. skullcap
    skullcap 14 November 2015 12: 24 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    There are no good and bad terrorists. Hard and soft.

    Or maybe it is not necessary hysteria and brand them as terrorists?
    AND SOMETHING IT FRENCH A MODERN OPPOSITION?
    Maybe they just want to leave the post of president of the dictator Hollande? And then they will become the spokesmen for the will of the French people - how moderate opposition in Syria?

    P.S. Of course, this is just a bitter irony over Western liberal-democratic values.
    And the French - my condolences.
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  79. atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 13: 02 New
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    There are no good and bad terrorists.

    beautiful words
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Hard and soft.

    same (+)
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Ours and strangers.

    (+)
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Namely, this logic guided the United States, Britain and other Western countries after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, justifying its inaction and its criticism of Russian actions

    And here do not disturb the sinful with the righteous.
    Hizbullah is fighting on Assad’s side, how about this? And your statements
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    There are no good and bad terrorists.
    Hard and soft.
    Ours and strangers.
  80. vladkavkaz
    vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 21: 21 New
    +1
    vladkavkaz (8
    I'm not Charlie now. / S /
    There is no point in interpreting - Who, Why and How ....

    I do not share the idea:

    1. Hulu against Christ and the founder of Islam.
    2. Propaganda of homosexuality.
    3. I do not admire the punitive war ukro-junta.
    4. Protection of the freedom of sin.
    5. I do not make fun of the victims of terrorist attacks.

    When the French special forces killed the head of the sovereign state of Gaddafi and put it in the supermarket for all to see, they probably did not think that grief would come to their house.
  81. sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist 14 November 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    old scripts in a new way
  • atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 11: 09 New
    0
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    Do you think Germany will pass? I am sure no.
    The question is when!

    Germany, I think it’s over. they have a natural fear of the Germans
    Next Spain.
    1. yushch
      yushch 14 November 2015 11: 49 New
      +6
      In Germany, there was a recent terrorist attack, and it surprisingly happened after talks in the German government that it would be nice for "fellow democracy advocates" to withdraw their troops from Germany and close their bases. In France, such actions often happen after talking about an independent political course you know from whom. Don’t you find it strange that this doesn’t happen either in the USA or in Britain. Do they behave calmly? Yes, and Cameron appeared infa about our plane before everyone else. And doesn’t it seem strange to you that this action was carried out n and on a professional level, not at all like solitary attacks by Palestinians with knives on an armed military?

      Quote: atalef
      Quote: vyinemeynen
      Do you think Germany will pass? I am sure no.
      The question is when!

      Germany, I think it’s over. they have a natural fear of the Germans
      Next Spain.
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 12: 03 New
        0
        Quote: yushch
        Do not find it strange that this does not happen either in the USA or in Britain.

        It happens more than once in the USA. not of such scale, of course, well, so their respective services work well.
        In general, many countries in which this does not happen - Switzerland, N.Zelandia or Vanoutu - can they manage all this?
        Quote: yushch
        And Cameron appeared infa about our plane before everyone else.

        And in order to confirm that it was he who controlled it, he immediately published it? belay
        Quote: yushch
        And doesn’t it seem strange to you that this action was carried out on a professional level, is not at all like solitary attacks of Palestinians with knives on the armed military?

        No, it does not seem.
        We would like to do the same with us, it’s just that our corresponding services are working as they should.
        The terror of loners is hard to stop; the terror of organized groups is a clear miscalculation of intelligence.
      2. yushch
        yushch 14 November 2015 12: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: yushch
        Do not find it strange that this does not happen either in the USA or in Britain.

        It happens more than once in the USA. not of such scale, of course, well, so their respective services work well.
        In general, many countries in which this does not happen - Switzerland, N.Zelandia or Vanoutu - can they manage all this?
        Quote: yushch
        And Cameron appeared infa about our plane before everyone else.

        And in order to confirm that it was he who controlled it, he immediately published it? belay
        Quote: yushch
        And doesn’t it seem strange to you that this action was carried out on a professional level, is not at all like solitary attacks of Palestinians with knives on the armed military?

        No, it does not seem.
        We would like to do the same with us, it’s just that our corresponding services are working as they should.
        The terror of loners is hard to stop; the terror of organized groups is a clear miscalculation of intelligence.


        That is, Switzerland, N.Zelandiyu and Vanutau you put on the same level with Germany and France the main locomotives of Europe ???
        Is it a joke about well-functioning services in the USA? Or are you not aware of gang street wars? If you wish, you can do whatever you want under this cover.
        Cameron did not provide anything, only because sensible analysts quickly determined from this "evidence" where the ears of this terrorist attack were sticking out.
        Well, and the most interesting. Israel does not strain and behaves calmly for a long time when armed bearded men are on the border with it in Syria. Israel strains only from the groups that Iran and Syria help. Those groups that America helps in a surprising way do not notice Israel, because such a command has been given to them. And the USA can’t give such a command to Hezbollah and Hamas, other countries give them a command. and the IG explodes our plane.
        Here, even without a conspiracy theory, it’s clear who is stirring up water. Israel has normal relations only with those neighbors who are more or less sitting on the US suction, and try to refute this reasonably.
      3. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 12: 40 New
        +3
        Quote: yushch
        That is, Switzerland, N.Zelandiya and Vanutau you put on the same level with Germany and France the main locomotives of Europe?

        No, I say. that if the country does not have Islamic terror - this does not mean at all that it rules it
        Quote: yushch
        Is it a joke about well-functioning services in the USA? Or are you not aware of gang street wars? If you wish, you can do whatever you want under this cover

        There is no joke, we also have gangs and they are fighting. Do not compare the police and special services.
        With the monstrously slurred Israeli police, intelligence agencies work quite successfully.
        Quote: yushch
        Cameron did not provide anything, only because sensible analysts quickly determined from this "evidence" where the ears of this terrorist attack were sticking out.

        Or just voiced what Russia knew, but did not want to say. tell me why the reasons are still not voiced?
        Quote: yushch
        Well, and the most interesting. Israel does not strain and behaves calmly for a long time when armed bearded men are to the teeth on the border with him in Syria

        Well, first of all, we always had these bearded men around, so why put things ahead of time. all the time
        Quote: yushch
        . Israel only strains from the groups that are helping Iran and Syria.

        No, all in importance.
        ISIS so far (except for the commercials) - has not shown itself particularly (except for a couple of rockets from Gaza) - the rush is needed when catching fleas and when you sleep with someone else’s wife
        Quote: yushch
        Those groups that America helps surprisingly do not notice Israel, because such a command is given to them

        do not write nonsense
        Quote: yushch
        But Hezbollah and Hamas cannot give such a team to the USA

        And who can?
        Quote: yushch
        Here, even without a conspiracy theory, it’s clear who is stirring up water. Israel has normal relations only with those neighbors who are more or less sitting on the US suction

        Of course. and what’s wrong with that? And those who are sitting on the suction from Iran are bad.
      4. yushch
        yushch 14 November 2015 13: 18 New
        +1
        Well, you see, you just divide them into good terras and bad ones. For us, a good terrorist is a dead terrorist, for the French I hope now too.
        I sincerely hope that you wrote the name of my Motherland with a small letter by chance, and not intentionally. Educated people do not go down to such petty moments.
      5. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 14: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: yushch
        Well, you see, you just divide them into good terra and bad.

        I don’t share, but you’ll chase after 9 hares, you won’t catch a single one.
        By significance and danger and share

        Quote: yushch
        I sincerely hope that you wrote the name of my Motherland with a small letter by accident, and not intentionally

        Of course by chance, this is the way, and my homeland

        Quote: yushch
        . Educated people do not fall to such petty moments.

        Education and ability to write correctly. nor always mating things.
        For example, I’m not able to write competently and a priori. Does this make me unbroken?
      6. yushch
        yushch 14 November 2015 15: 08 New
        0
        You explained that by chance this is enough. I never blame opponents for illiteracy, because I sometimes make grammatical and punctuation errors.
        Regarding education, I meant deliberate spelling, which unfortunately some forum users sin on both sides, so to speak.
  • Foxmara
    Foxmara 14 November 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    Vanga was already “Nanguangal” in due time. Europe will be empty. It is because of the Arabs and chemical weapons.
    Again, so many “refugees” - this was not only to be expected, it was inevitable. I wrote in September that the old woman would thoroughly shake Europe, and in the literal sense. Someone really needed to organize a crusade against Assad. We slowed down this factor, however, the "refugees" did not disappear. And the French began to bomb their wells. Here, Turkey and Qatar are interested. It’s even difficult to say who is the first, but most likely Qatar - these are frostbitten all over.
  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 14 November 2015 12: 22 New
    +2
    Let us not wish others bad. We will think for ourselves. Many years have passed since the last large-scale terrorist attacks in Russia, and we (ordinary citizens) have also relaxed. The plane and its death under Sharm El Sheikh struck us and guarded us, but the terrorist attacks in France should awaken us from routine again and understand that it’s not work, not a salary or short-term income, not prosperity and owning a cool car, but only our own lives, loved ones and our Russian people - that’s the only thing we need to fight for and what to value. Only vigilance and compliance with safety measures will save us from most of the possible incidents. Let's look around and see what they bring to the cellars of our houses, what outsiders do in our entrances, how to behave in crowded places, or maybe it’s better not to go there if you really don’t need to ...
    1. Foxmara
      Foxmara 14 November 2015 13: 38 New
      0
      Quote: mojohed2012
      Let us not wish others bad.

      and who wished ??
      Quote: mojohed2012
      Many years have passed since the last large-scale terrorist attacks in Russia, and we

      Really? Have you forgotten Volgograd?
      Quote: mojohed2012
      but only their own lives, those close to us and our Russian people — that’s the only thing we need to fight for and what to value.

      And for me - honor is more precious than life. Not in the sense that there is no need to fight for it, but this is not an end in itself at all. But only a way to do something worthy in the world. Otherwise we are just animals.
      Quote: mojohed2012
      Let's look back and see

      Who is against it? Vigilance is in our time and is our TOTAL survival.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 14 November 2015 10: 07 New
    13
    Quote: atalef
    Paris will be confirmed - sometimes it’s not clear who is visiting someone — Muslims from the French or vice versa

    Yes, Paris is more like a suburb of Beirut, but I would say that it was not France that faced terrorism, but Europe. It’s just that the French were chosen as the weakest link.
    The most important thing is that political decisions will be made in the near future and we will see for the sake of making what decisions have undermined Paris, what are Europe pushing for?
    Slurred explanations in Syria look ridiculous - the goal sucks another!
    1. atalef
      atalef 14 November 2015 10: 18 New
      +8
      Quote: APASUS
      and Paris is more like a suburb of Beirut, but I would say that it was not France that faced terrorism, but Europe. It’s just that the French were chosen as the weakest link.

      So am I about
      Quote: APASUS
      The most important thing is that political decisions will be made in the near future and we will see for the sake of making what decisions have undermined Paris, what are Europe pushing for?

      Europe will do nothing, not the first terrorist attack.
      Europe will never have the courage to stand up and call a spade a spade - therefore, the result will be zero.

      Quote: APASUS
      Slurred explanations in Syria look ridiculous - the goal sucks another!

      Syria? Yes, where does Syria.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 November 2015 10: 47 New
        +7
        Quote: atalef
        Europe will do nothing, not the first terrorist attack. Europe will never have the courage to stand up and call a spade a spade - therefore, the result will be zero.

        Europe itself will not be able to choose the line (how many of them all need to be persuaded), but they can very quietly sign the next paper invented by the USA in the wake of the attacks. Merkel will support everything like a herd of rams.
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN 14 November 2015 11: 06 New
        10
        Interestingly, were there moderate terrorists? Not moderate then they should not have been allowed.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 14 November 2015 11: 34 New
          +4
          Yesterday, 09: 50

          States in the Western coalition to combat the IG, require the United States to expand the list of moderate Syrian opposition, reports RIA Novosti message The Washington Post.
          .



          The request may be satisfied. recourse
    2. Maksus
      Maksus 14 November 2015 10: 48 New
      +3
      I was in Paris this August. A normal European city, I did not notice any feeling of Gaster dominance. Rather, the dominance of blacks.
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 11: 07 New
        +5
        Quote: Maksus
        I was in Paris this August. A normal European city, I did not notice any feeling of Gaster dominance. Rather, the dominance of blacks

        They are the same in the majority of Muslims.
        1. sisa29
          sisa29 14 November 2015 12: 03 New
          +3
          Been in 2002 every three years. Before, there were many blacks. Now it seems like there are fewer Negroes, but there are just a lot of Turks and Arabs. It used to be something more cultural in the city or something, but now go from the Louvre to the side of sex shops on the corner, kebabs, a porn video, in the evening whores at intersections. And take the metro towards San Denis, if on the train you see a European you are lucky
        2. atalef
          atalef 14 November 2015 12: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: sisa29
          It used to be something more cultural in the city or something, but now go from the Louvre to the sex shops on the corner, kebabs, a porn video, in the evening whores at the crossroads. And take the metro towards San Denis, if on the train you see a European you are lucky

          2 years ago I was in Brussels, the hotel was in the area of ​​the railway station.
          In the evening we went out for a walk, I did not understand where I went.
          Gaza - some Arabs and blacks (and absolutely black and with huge heads) - which Belgians (aborigines) - are not there (in that area) Brussels is more Arab than Haifa and Israel in general. to meet in our burqa is a monstrous rarity, there at every step.
      2. Maksus
        Maksus 14 November 2015 12: 22 New
        0
        I agree, but in Beirut there are somehow fewer of them than Arabs. It's about how to come to Nazareth from Haifa - from a decent city you find yourself in the back of a caravanserai. But, again, in the center of Paris and on the outskirts (in the area of ​​the Boulevard Periferic) - everything is very European.
      3. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 12: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Maksus
        But, again, in the center of Paris and on the outskirts (in the area of ​​the Boulevard Periferic) - everything is very European.

        Well, of course, not like in Sakhnin, but in general ... we are all a bit racist, hell knows. what can I say, you go in Stockholm and you don’t understand (sometimes) where you are.
        Europe relaxed - reaping the benefits.
      4. Maksus
        Maksus 14 November 2015 13: 48 New
        0
        It's only the beginning. Open borders + tolerance = uncontrolled flow of terrorist attacks. It is unlikely that Europe will succeed in shaking itself off and declaring another crusade.
      5. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 13: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Maksus
        It's only the beginning. Open borders + tolerance = uncontrolled flow of terrorist attacks. It is unlikely that Europe will succeed in shaking itself off and declaring another crusade.

        not a, Europe (in recent years. it seems to me) has mentally moved to a position - after me, at least a flood.
        Therefore, strategic decisions cannot be made.
        so again roll the bread. feed the afflicted and. this will end, drowning the problem in a stream of chatter and coordination.
  • crumb
    crumb 14 November 2015 11: 40 New
    +1
    Well, are they blacks Europeans ?!
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 14 November 2015 11: 06 New
    +3
    Quote: APASUS
    .Just the French were chosen as the weakest link.

    Do you think in Germany the authorities control all Arabs and other arrivals in the country?
    The same terrorist attack can be carried out in Germany, as if it turned out that the core of terrorists in Germany exists, for the time being they do not want to shoot the office simply.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 14 November 2015 13: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: saturn.mmm
      Quote: APASUS
      .Just the French were chosen as the weakest link.

      Do you think in Germany the authorities control all Arabs and other arrivals in the country?
      The same terrorist attack can be carried out in Germany, as if it turned out that the core of terrorists in Germany exists, for the time being they do not want to shoot the office simply.

      In this world, nothing happens just like that, everything has its own message:
      1 Very soon, a meeting will be held in Syria, where a decision may be made to turn the head on terror, but after these events we will see who and how will use this fact (say that in time - to say nothing, September 11 became the prologue of very big changes)
      2 In France, there is a very large Diaspora of Arabs and the president is weak. But she plays one of the main roles, such an attack in Estonia would not have caused anything but pity. (The country was not chosen by chance)
      3 Germany is the press through which almost all decisions on a united Europe are pushed through. A similar terrorist attack by the Germans can lead the Germans to take up the solution of problems themselves, but someone doesn’t want to. The USA wants to lead and control this process. Rather, they will only bomb those who Americans don’t like and cherish others. Americans want not only to destroy terrorists, but also to form public opinion of whom to call a terrorist, who to execute and who to execute and who pays for everything.
    2. sovetskyturist
      sovetskyturist 14 November 2015 15: 02 New
      +1
      it’s interesting, and who controls Germany from 9.50 min. although the master there a little understands who the puppeteer really is. It’s probably not the lawyers themselves who rule the world with their hands
    3. Grenader
      Grenader 14 November 2015 17: 05 New
      +1
      The question doesn’t give up - why the hell do terrorists carry their passports with them? They will not be allowed to detonate a bomb without a passport?
  • insafufa
    insafufa 14 November 2015 10: 49 New
    +5
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    Bataklan PHOTO ENTRANCE

    To see Paris and die - now takes on a completely different meaning.
    The IG committed a terrorist attack in Paris not because France is more guilty than others, but because those who were in Paris are easiest to confirm - sometimes it’s not clear who is visiting someone — Muslims from the French or vice versa


    Yes, sarcasm was good about seeing and dying

    But now in our world there is nowhere where you can’t be sure that when you come down to rest in the warm regions you won’t die how beautiful the country was Syria. I visited there in 2002. the beauty of the landscape by the sea was just a non-transmitted tourist paradise, the service was lame but still beautiful.
    In Libya, in those years it was possible to forget the wallet and come in the evening to ask the waiter and they would bring it to me so it surprised me that there was no theft and crime.
    In Egypt, by that time he had been in a state of emergency for 30 years, now it has been strengthened, but it is not safer there.
    Tunisia was generally cool there, but now I’m unlikely to go there.

    What did the Middle East turn mattresses and mattresses into?
    Now there is chaos.

    so friends rash actions in the sandbox led to the sowing of a storm reaping a hurricane many thanks to Sarkozy, Blair, Bush Jr. and Barack for the mess.
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 14 November 2015 12: 41 New
      +2
      Have respect for the Russian language and for those who read you - please put punctuation marks, believe me - they do not exist in vain! hi
  • Ramzaj99
    Ramzaj99 14 November 2015 11: 34 New
    +8
    What is surprising is how much shit is pouring from Ukraine, for all social events. networks, about the events in Paris. Everywhere there is gloating, some kind of crazy comments about supporting ISIS, selling them MANPADS, uniting with the Arab brothers and together the war against Russia, wishes that Russia would be the next ........ Lord Ukraine You are crazy...................................
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 14 November 2015 12: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Ramzaj99
      What is surprising is how much shit is pouring from Ukraine, for all social events. networks

      When God wants to punish, he destroys the mind.
      There is nothing more to add about Ukrainian social networks.
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  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 14 November 2015 12: 17 New
    +3
    The irresponsible policies of the EU and Germany, in particular, as well as Hollande’s tolerant idiocy, his spinelessness and the lack of a national policy to protect the French and their rights against attacks from the crowds, are all grounds for terror, even if not related to IS, because natives of the East who had fought and turned into refugees — they become Satan and get clouded by reason from the permissiveness and defenselessness of ordinary Frenchmen. The EU has shown its failure. NATO is an aspen stake in the heart of each of the EU members who have surrendered US sovereignty and allowed occupying forces to their national territories. Now they can’t even provide their security without the Shtatovs, and those who created the IS and, who knows, can even plan it all, rub their sweaty hands, waiting for the pleas of France to Obama about the war against the IS. I am ashamed of the spineless power of the EU countries, ashamed of the cult of the alien black (alien values, anti-national politics) - the same Nobel lowriate as Hitler once was.
    1. atalef
      atalef 14 November 2015 12: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: mojohed2012
      The irresponsible policies of the EU and Germany, in particular, as well as Hollande’s tolerant idiocy, his spinelessness and the absence of a national policy to protect the French and their rights from attacks from those who had come in, are all grounds for terror, even if not related to IS

      100500 hi
  • Baikonur
    Baikonur 14 November 2015 08: 57 New
    +9
    Caricaturists have been crooked!
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 November 2015 10: 05 New
      +5
      Good "stuff" for Charlie ... let's see what they "draw" this time ..
      1. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik 14 November 2015 10: 11 New
        25
        Quote: Otshelnik
        Good "stuff" for Charlie ... let's see what they "draw" this time ..

        Not mine, but to the place.
        I'm not Charlie.
        I am in Grozny the house of the press.
        And the viewer from Nord-Ost is me too!
        I am the flame from Odessa, so know!
        I am a dead family in Gorlovka.
        I'm not Charlie.
        I are children from Beslan.
        I am a hunched mother from Donbass.
        I am a dead officer from Alpha.
        I am a doctor that saved people.
        I am a shield from the creatures that came with weapons.
        I am a Russian tank that is fighting in Syria.
        I'm not Charlie.
        I'm definitely not Charlie ....

        The war, you yourself
        To the gate of the house
        They brought ....
  • mihasik
    mihasik 14 November 2015 09: 03 New
    28
    Quote: Kos_kalinki9
    Quote: crazyrom
    Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?

    This time, if they draw, I think the French themselves will tear off the BOSKs to them. It’s one thing to mock the Russians, but here it’s a bit wrong.

    Do not tear.
    This time they just won’t get paid, and Charlie doesn’t work for free.
    Along the way it began. The states have included plan B. The chaos in Europe is just beginning. The “master” arranges a demonstration flogging of satellites so that even thoughts do not arise about independence.
    Today, a large fire broke out in a migrant camp in Calais. The answer?
    I think Europe will soon "explode" for real. But haven't they been warned?
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    2. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 14 November 2015 10: 29 New
      0
      Quote: mihasik

      Do not tear.
      This time they just won’t get paid, and Charlie doesn’t work for free.
      I think Europe will soon "explode" for real. But haven't they been warned?

      It doesn’t explode. Once Bosko don’t unscrew their idiots, then it won’t.
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  • meriem1
    meriem1 14 November 2015 07: 36 New
    23
    Quote: crazyrom
    Interestingly, now this Charlie will draw caricatures, making fun of these terrorist attacks, or weakly?



    Yes, why would ???? Then there was a "tragedy" //// And now the act is ter. How is it possible? And when our plane was dropped, it's nothing. " freedom of speech". Even the question is not worth it !!! If they just hint, then their "democratic" France will immediately cover! They are people more equal than all others! Serbs. Russian Muslims! ...

    P.S. Huge Condolences to the Simple French People !!! We are with you! And We grieve For the present !!!
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  • natakor1949
    natakor1949 14 November 2015 11: 40 New
    +4
    With all my heart, I condole the innocently affected people. This is what Europe’s short-sighted policies of their leaders have brought to Europe, this blood on the hands of Merkel, Hollande, Obama, etc., for torn apart Iraq, Libya, Syria - this is only the beginning. Well, where are you, obscurantists from Charlie, let's laugh with you, mr ..zy.
  • Taagad
    Taagad 14 November 2015 08: 05 New
    -5
    It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 14 November 2015 08: 29 New
      40
      It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ...

      The wonderful beginning of the message to Charlie Ebdo, which you sent to the wrong address.
      ---
      I do not like hypocrites
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 09: 22 New
        11
        Quote: Turkir
        The wonderful beginning of the message to Charlie Ebdo, which you sent to the wrong address.
        ---
        I do not like hypocrites

        Do not mix innocent people with a hollow magazine.
        1. Alec_s
          Alec_s 14 November 2015 11: 52 New
          +1
          Of course I sympathize with normal people! But the whole circulation of the "dolbutnoy zhurnalchik" was bought up by someone ...
        2. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 14 November 2015 13: 33 New
          +1
          and where is the joy of killing people?
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 14 November 2015 20: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: Russiamoya
            and where is the joy of killing people?

            Look at the three posts above. Taagad wrote: "It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ..", 46 people put him a minus !!! Are these normal people?
            1. Russiamoy
              Russiamoy 14 November 2015 22: 41 New
              -2
              Look at the three posts above. Taagad wrote: "It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ..", 46 people put him a minus !!! Are these normal people?
              cons for duplicity and hypocrisy, if you look at all the opuses and comments and not only on this topic Taagad /
        3. Turkir
          Turkir 14 November 2015 20: 43 New
          +1
          I do not mix anyone and nothing. All normal people express their condolences on the death of innocent people.
          Just do not appropriate the rights of censors and indicate to whom and when to give condolences.
          And the fucking little magazine, as you write, dared to paint funny pictures on 224 of our compatriots who had not yet been buried.
          One to a hundred - that, a badly fucked-up journal, will not release a single funny picture after a series of terrorist attacks in Paris.
          I know what time it is, I won’t know, I’ll ask you.
    2. Russian German
      Russian German 14 November 2015 08: 44 New
      33
      Dear, from the point of view of a normal person in fact - you, of course, are right. I put a plus. But who will explain the same thing to these moral freaks (French)? Or do you need to grieve over the killed French, and you can mock the dead Russians (draw cartoons) as second-class people?
      1. Taagad
        Taagad 14 November 2015 09: 00 New
        -10
        Now is not the time to recall past grievances. Believe me, France is very duplicitous about the Palestinian terror and indirectly supports it. But now is not the time for these memories. Now is the time to mourn over the innocently dead people ...
        1. Alexander_
          Alexander_ 14 November 2015 09: 15 New
          12
          "Now is not the time to recall past grievances"

          To fall into oblivion, or something.
        2. Russian German
          Russian German 14 November 2015 09: 21 New
          +7
          And where does the attitude of France towards Palestine? I don’t quite understand. After all, it was not Hamas and Arafat who attacked the French. Develop a thought. And for the innocent victims a candle must be put. Let the earth rest in peace.
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 November 2015 09: 43 New
            +3
            Quote: Russian German
            And where does the attitude of France towards Palestine? I don’t quite understand. After all, it was not Hamas and Arafat who attacked the French. Develop a thought. And for the innocent victims a candle must be put. Let the earth rest in peace.

            Well, what without Palestine? But how can Jews be attached to this business? wink
            1. korvin1976
              korvin1976 14 November 2015 10: 33 New
              +5
              I sometimes don’t understand the “God's chosen ones”, then you yell that you are being blamed for everything, but now you yourself are asking for the reasons for your accusation. Of course, I knew that not everything is so simple with your sadism, but what else would you slide down to masochism?
            2. andj61
              andj61 14 November 2015 11: 08 New
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              Well, what without Palestine? But how can Jews be attached to this business?

              But is it necessary to cling to the Jews for any reason? what
              Innocent people died at the hands of terrorists - terror must be destroyed!
            3. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 14 November 2015 12: 45 New
              +4
              Well, actually it hooks your fellow countryman ... wink
              I'm afraid for Europeans this is only the beginning ... And the end for the EU.
              In order to get out of this situation, a strong-willed and cruel decision is needed ... So a strong-willed and cruel leader is needed ... Under the bureaucratic structure of the European Union ... this is not yet realistic. So the situation will only grow ...
              The dark-skinned Trojan horse is already in the city, and the inhabitants are still sleeping ...
              1. andj61
                andj61 14 November 2015 13: 37 New
                0
                Quote: Barkhan
                Well, actually it hooks your fellow countryman ...

                And who, interestingly, is my fellow countryman? winked
                Neither Russian German (he did not indicate his residence), nor atalef (lives in Israel, himself from St. Petersburg) are not my countrymen ... request
                1. BARKHAN
                  BARKHAN 14 November 2015 15: 10 New
                  +3
                  "Well, how can it be without Palestine? And how can Jews be attached to this business? Wink" -atalef. I have flashed the Israeli flag for both. I admit a mistake, I apologize. hi
        3. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 14 November 2015 09: 33 New
          12
          Quote: Taagad
          Now is not the time to recall past grievances. Believe me, France is very duplicitous about the Palestinian terror and indirectly supports it. But now is not the time for these memories. Now is the time to mourn over the innocently dead people ...

          1. Today is early, tomorrow is late ... This is a classic of the political demagogy genre (Sorry for the harshness).
          2. Duplicity - apparently this is the essence of tolerance, and the social basis of the abomination that is terrorism and the revolutionary call for the breaking of states.
          The conclusion suggests itself that in those countries where the communist ideology has been condemned, where the media have convinced a significant part of the people, social protest and aspirations for the future are not associated with the idea of ​​building a new society. but with the primitive idea of ​​revenge and destruction of existing states.

          So in the Cold War the path to the victory of communism was clearly outlined ....

          3. We grieve for the dead ... We share the grief of the near and dear ...
          But the state of France has many reproaches ...
          For example, it spread sophisticated terror - base humor, insulting millions of normal rustic people, without a Sorbon education, without a Swiss watch and without a bank account even for $ 100, but people ...
          And for those who recently gathered in a minuscript with "I Charlie" posters, and then was replicated in photographs allegedly at the head of the whole world - contempt and accusation of indulging terrorism and unculture.
        4. Saratovets
          Saratovets 14 November 2015 09: 56 New
          +6
          Right now it's time to get the French wet in their house, otherwise they will run into this rake again and again. and people yes, sorry
          1. Stiletto
            Stiletto 14 November 2015 10: 05 New
            +4
            Quote: Saratovets
            Right now it's time to get the French wet in their house, otherwise they will run into this rake again and again. and people yes, sorry


            Totally agree with you! hi Now let Hollande and Obama tell the French about moderate opposition
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 14 November 2015 12: 51 New
            +3
            But this is just the work of our Foreign Ministry. The site of our embassy should be detailed in detail, which specifically led to such a situation ... Specifically, the policy of the French leadership, which needed the voices of "new voters who came from the south." if the terrorists already have French citizenship.
        5. LukaSaraev
          LukaSaraev 14 November 2015 10: 20 New
          +6
          Well, I do not!! Here and without me they said what I think. But here I could not stand it. Why is this not necessary? Can we put Napoleon on the goddess? Well, he's a gentleman !! Why should I forgive and forget everything for everyone!? Excuse me !!! I do not agree !! Why did France not mourn the innocently destroyed children from New Russia ?? AND ? They don’t know about this? Let them know! This is their president - let him tell.
        6. APASUS
          APASUS 14 November 2015 14: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: Taagad
          Believe me, France is very duplicitous about Palestinian terror and indirectly supports it.

          Do you have any kind of information proving your statement or did you just decide to start talking to people ???
      2. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 09: 42 New
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        Quote: Russian German
        Or do you need to grieve over the killed French, and you can mock the dead Russians (draw cartoons) as second-class people?

        Strong will never fall to the level of scum.
        Strong does as his conscience and education tells him and never nods to another.
        Easy to go down, go up hard .-- don't go down to Charlie's level. hi
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 14 November 2015 10: 00 New
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          The strong one will never go down to the level of scum. The strong one does as his conscience and education tells him and never nods at the other. It is easy to go down, go up hard. - Do not go down to the level of Charlie.


          Nice words

          And yet, no one (of the sane people) is gloating over the tragedy in Paris

          I agree 100% - there are inadequate everywhere and does not mean that you need to blame them.

          And about one famous magazine, there are good words:

          - Do not ask for whom the bell tolls ...



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        3. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 14 November 2015 13: 43 New
          +3
          Yes, especially in your place, where for the death of an Israeli citizen, there’s a fraud in the form of several annihilated “terrorists”.
          Strong will never fall to the level of scum. - loud and pathos. and still do not need to turn over, not a single comment with joy about the dead, but only perplexity about the reaction of the French newspaper and the French government
          ps everyone understands that nedozhurnalyushki do it by order of the government or with their approval.
    3. mihasik
      mihasik 14 November 2015 09: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: Taagad
      It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people

      Yeah, you tell the States. Politics, unprincipled business.
    4. kotovckiy
      kotovckiy 14 November 2015 09: 21 New
      15
      There is no joy. When a magazine was sold in Paris with very funny pictures about how the citizens of Russia are dying in a terrorist attack, the French showed their solidarity with our grief and sold out the print run. I am ready to condole with relatives of the innocently killed people, but the society laughing at our pain does not deserve condolences.
      1. Taagad
        Taagad 14 November 2015 09: 37 New
        0
        Kotovckiy, but do you know what your spiritual twins from the western side said after the terrorist attack on the plane? "It's a pity for the dead, there is no Russia." I hope that such scumbags are in the minority on both sides ...
        1. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 14 November 2015 13: 54 New
          +3
          I wish you with the same active and equally loving stance to go to Western sites and forums such as VO and to protect us from aggressive attacks by Russophobes. very actively the Israeli mother sees intent and double meaning in all the comments.
          ps water sharpens a stone, yes? happiness, good luck and peace to you
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 14 November 2015 10: 11 New
        +9
        Quote: kotovckiy
        I am ready to condole with the relatives of the innocently killed people, but the society laughing at our pain does not deserve condolences.

        Are they the French that gave the World of Voltaire, Diderot, Russo, Dumas, Zola, Gauguin, Renoir, Matisse, Bonaparte, De Gaulle? !!! The current generation has only given Charlie ... France, wake up and look around !!! You are seriously ill, France.
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 14 November 2015 09: 24 New
      13
      Quote: Taagad
      It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people

      We grieve over the innocent dead people and we won’t draw vile caricatures, we don’t have the mentality. I am really sorry that the truly innocent suffered, and the abomination of Charlie Ebdo is still blooming, now it's time to laugh with Charlie, is not it?
    6. TSOOBER
      TSOOBER 14 November 2015 09: 24 New
      +3
      I absolutely agree with you!
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    9. Stiletto
      Stiletto 14 November 2015 09: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Taagad
      It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people


      Well, then, say, like this:

      We express our sincere condolences to the people of France in connection with the terrorist attacks in Paris.
      We look forward to fresh cartoons from Charlie Ebdo. And what? It's so democratic, so European ...
    10. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 November 2015 10: 17 New
      +7
      We are not happy, we are simply satisfied that some Satanists gave other Satanists the same end in the same place ...
      By the way, how often do you grieve over the innocent victims in Palestine?
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    12. bocsman
      bocsman 14 November 2015 10: 19 New
      10
      Quote: Taagad
      It’s sacrilegious now to rejoice in the tragedy ... You just need to mourn the innocently dead people

      In the so-called democratic countries there are no innocents! Since they chose the government, they bear full responsibility for their activities! Including the garbage dump called Charlie! Let us recall the procession "I am Charlie," recall their many thousands of demonstrations for economic reasons! And where were they when they bombed Libya, Iraq, Syria! It's time to collect stones! And at the expense of joy, it is not there, there is simply an understanding that everything in the world is interconnected and sooner or later you have to answer for everything!
    13. lukewarm
      lukewarm 14 November 2015 10: 33 New
      +3
      No one is happy. Just a reminder. About how civilized and enlightened liberally joked about what is possible and what is impossible. And you, dear representative, well, it’s just supposed to teach instructive everywhere and everywhere. "Teach better than your spiders" © Pinocchio
    14. ankir13
      ankir13 14 November 2015 10: 51 New
      0
      Yes, just mourn, along with Charlie. What a theme for an independent caricature!
    15. Darwin
      Darwin 14 November 2015 11: 02 New
      +1
      And no one is happy
    16. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 November 2015 12: 41 New
      +1
      The death toll from two explosions in Beirut reached 43 people, more than 200 people were injured.
      Sorrow ???????
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 14 November 2015 12: 56 New
        +2
        Imagine - YES! It’s a pity to ALL innocently dead people. In all countries. You see, people! Not terrorists! Not the politicians who are guilty of everything! Not the Palestinian suicide mothers, who are having a happy holiday in the whole village, because their children, heroes, were killed, but many people were blown up! Not reading Charlie with a laugh! Not calling for war based on any sacred texts! Killing is contrary to human nature. Killing innocent people - they have no right to be called people!
    17. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 14 November 2015 13: 32 New
      0
      and where is the joy here in the comments? I hope you wrote the same thing in French social networks, after the terrorist attack in Moscow, and after the crash of the plane, and about the drowning Syrian boy, especially in the online version of this pseudo-magazine and for those who buy it, and does not condemn at least at official levels .
    18. BLOND
      BLOND 14 November 2015 13: 54 New
      +1
      And I WANT a cartoon from Charlie on the terrorist attack (let the tolerant ones always be such!)
      Let the OSCE and others and a half years investigate who around the stadium and in a cafe blew up and shot ... (maybe this is an act of suicide ?!)
      Europe mourned the thousands of my fellow countrymen from the Donbass?
    19. urik62
      urik62 14 November 2015 19: 45 New
      0
      For Charlie there is no concept of sacrilege, 2 days ago they themselves said
  • Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 14 November 2015 08: 21 New
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    Get it right! I do not gloat. And I’m not happy.

    But! These are all patterns.

    The pattern of development of super-tolerant European civilization (pederast parades, glum and sacrilege, "Charles") on the one hand.

    And - the pattern of development of the so-called "orthodox", super-conservative Islamic society.

    Therefore, the clash of civilizations that has now erupted in Paris is predictable and natural.


    And - a personal position. Treat as you like. There was nothing for them to mock the Russians who died in Egypt!
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 14 November 2015 10: 36 New
      +1
      And what about tolerance? These are the same terrorists who recently blew up a plane with our citizens. Or do you also see a pattern in this event? Inhumans they are nothumans everywhere. Condolences to the relatives of the victims and to the entire French people.
  • Grenader
    Grenader 14 November 2015 08: 43 New
    15
    I recall the Western media criticized the Russian special forces for their actions in the Nord-Ost for a large number of victims. As practice has shown, their special services are far from being prepared in the best way, the attackers managed to blow up the martyrs' belts.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 14 November 2015 09: 09 New
    +5
    Quote: Lance
    Tolerance dances with tambourines end.

    Good expression!

    And the meaning is exact.

    Europeans can interpret the concept of “tolerance” as they like.
    But other peoples seem to have a consolidated opinion on this word.
    Whereas for the Hebrews tolerance is a noble attitude towards other-looking, disbelieving and propagating, for the rest of the world tolerance is an unprincipled ideology and compromising policy towards violating moral principles.
  • Alexander_
    Alexander_ 14 November 2015 09: 12 New
    +1
    "Tolerance Dances with Tambourines End"

    The Gaitans have a sense of life in these dances, only by removing them from power can this be stopped.
  • atalef
    atalef 14 November 2015 09: 20 New
    +6
    Quote: Lance
    Like movie planes in skyscrapers, so are the 11 / 9 twin towers.
    And now the 13th district is shining for the French ..

    Muslims kill Christians on FRIDAY 13 !!!
    World turned upside down.
    1. bocsman
      bocsman 14 November 2015 10: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      Muslims kill Christians on FRIDAY 13 !!! The world turned upside down.

      Sir, how do you know that there was not a single Jew, Muslim, Buddhist ?!
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  • edge
    edge 14 November 2015 11: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Lance
    For Westerners, deservedly "dreams become reality."

    this karma fate always takes its toll.
  • midashko
    midashko 14 November 2015 06: 47 New
    -53
    And what about Charlie? In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.
    And there is nothing to justify terrorism with resentment at the cartoons. If only there was a reason for the terrorist, he has his own goals. There would be no cartoons, so I would have found a reason in the image of a pig, they would have blown up the theater, where the fairy tale "Three Little Pigs" is going on.
    Offended, damn it, their feelings of believers. Terrorists who feel like me too. It is necessary to wet them.
    And the French must answer ISIS. Those are terrorist attacks, and the French are mass evictions of Muslims from the country, plus mountains of arms to Kurds and Iranians.
    Terror can only be fought with retaliatory terror.
    1. erlikon
      erlikon 14 November 2015 06: 52 New
      -16
      That's right! As Lenin said, we will respond to white terror with red terror! And the dictatorship of the proletariat!
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 14 November 2015 09: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: erlikon
        That's right! As Lenin said, we will respond to white terror with red terror! And the dictatorship of the proletariat!

        1. Lenin said a lot of the right things.
        2. But about the terror, both white and red, Lenin was wrong.
        For whites, what Lenin called terror was just the fulfillment of the historical mission and state laws of the empire - to keep the people in obedience, in slavish, humiliated, hungry, but in any way, but ... In obedience.
        The Reds openly took revenge for this.
        In historical crap, now both sides.
        We should not repeat the mistakes of grandfathers and great-grandfathers.
        3. About the dictatorship of the proletariat, Lenin was right, but with reservations. You forgot to mention the poorest peasantry (living without hiring workers) and soldiers with sailors.
        Today's base for the idea of ​​communism is much wider. Already, engineering and technical personnel, service workers, and scientists were in a state of economic oppression by officials and owners of enterprises ...

        So go ahead!
        Let us prove by deed that France is a weak link in imperialism!
    2. Throw
      Throw 14 November 2015 06: 56 New
      20
      Exactly.
      The purpose of the ideological terrorist attack is fear, the motive is not important.
      Terror stops either counter terror or the elimination of ideologists and financing.

      It is a pity only ordinary people who died for the "polites" of the authorities ...
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 14 November 2015 07: 16 New
        59
        Putin at the UN General Assembly to the West:
        "Do you even understand what you have done? !!"
        1. Homo
          Homo 14 November 2015 07: 29 New
          13
          Quote: Aleksander
          Putin at the UN General Assembly to the West:
          "Do you even understand what you have done? !!"

          Now they not only understood but also felt on their ass.
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 14 November 2015 09: 48 New
            +4
            Quote: Homo
            Now they not only understood but also felt on their ass.

            I doubt very much.
            However, we’ll soon find out about the reaction to terror.
            But I suppose that nothing will change in Western politics.
          2. BLOND
            BLOND 14 November 2015 14: 02 New
            0
            not yet felt
            ranked themselves as celestials ...
            Holland was evacuated from the stadium ... and there are still thousands of fans with football players, etc.
        2. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 14 November 2015 11: 10 New
          +2
          I'm afraid the answer is terrible, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY CONSCIOUSLY ALL OF THESE DO IT!
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 14 November 2015 07: 30 New
        -20
        Quote: Lance
        It is a pity only ordinary people who died for the "polites" of the authorities ...

        Now they will be more attentive closer to the elections so that such a tragedy does not happen again.
        What surprised :: of the first two dozen comments, half was somehow related to the question :: And what will Ebdo magazine publish now.
        People, be ashamed! France has a national tragedy, and you would have a look at the dances on the bones!
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 14 November 2015 08: 53 New
          17
          Quote: hydrox
          People, be ashamed! France has a national tragedy, and you would have a look at the dances on the bones!

          And you ask this question to the French when they mocked them journalistically and performed dances on the bones of those killed in a plane crash in Egypt. And mourning was declared in Russia. And no one, no one condemned these "journalists". And remember the caricature of those who died in the Moscow metro. Something I did not see a single statement from the French with condemnation.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 14 November 2015 10: 01 New
            -2
            And this is not French journalism, it is actually Jewish, and it is you who should appeal to the owners of the magazine with a demand to stop mockery, and not to the French. (I would redistribute this yellow sheet of grenade launchers, so that it would continue to be inconsistent). And you are curious that he lives and continues to mock at everything that for NORMAL people is a TRAGEDY.
            And as long as this trough of scavengers lives on, national tragedies will no longer be tragedies, but an occasion for a liberal discussion of what they say about the next state of emergency.
            1. Kos_kalinki9
              Kos_kalinki9 14 November 2015 10: 41 New
              +6
              That is, France doesn’t seem to be involved in business? A cool plot. The magazine is registered in France, but does not obey their laws. Jews, however.
        2. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 14 November 2015 11: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: hydrox
          France has a national tragedy

          Yeah ... but among the peoples from Libya to India, there has been a "holiday" every day for many years ...
          France is one of the countries that fed and raised the Wahhabi satanists ... and now the shaitans received the "face" command on their own.
          I’m very interested where the team came from, from Fashington, Telaviv, London, or maybe from Paris itself ?????? Aircraft, Charlie, explosions ... and all this in a very short period of time ... I do not believe in such coincidences !!!
      3. Gorinich
        Gorinich 14 November 2015 11: 58 New
        0
        Elimination of ideologists and financing will not work, because Washington would have to be blown up.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 November 2015 06: 57 New
      32
      Quote: midashko
      In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.

      Oh, and here the guest Echo of Moscow came to us. I have not thrown out the plate "I Charlie" yet?
      Quote: midashko
      And there is nothing to justify terrorism

      And who justifies it, except for the USA and Europe itself?
      Quote: midashko
      And the French must answer ISIS.

      And ISIS doesn’t support the French, most recently, including they called them moderate opposition.
      Quote: midashko
      , and the French mass evictions of Muslims from the country

      Dreamed
      Quote: midashko
      , plus mountains of arms to the Kurds and Iranians.

      Drugs?
      Quote: midashko
      Terror can only be fought with retaliatory terror.

      Che offer to blow up?
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 14 November 2015 07: 39 New
        -51
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Che offer to blow up?

        Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A pair of megatons for each should be enough. And do not scare the beginning of the 3rd World War - it has already begun. Paris is just the last episode, from the same chain as New York 9/11, London, Madrid ... And by the way, Nord-Ost, Beslan, the Sinai plane crash is the same chain.
        It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam? If, against all odds, I still hope that I am on the side of civilization, then the 3rd World War will end relatively quickly, with little blood, and Russia will be among those who determine the post-war world order. And if Russia is on the wrong side, then the post-war world order will be gone.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 14 November 2015 07: 44 New
          11
          Quote: Nagan
          , on the side of civilization, the 3rd World War will end relatively quickly, with little blood, and Russia will be among those who determine the post-war world order. And if Russia is on the wrong side, then the post-war world order will be gone.

          Quote: Nagan
          Che offer to blow up?

          Quote: Nagan
          Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A pair of megatons for each -

          It seemed to me that that older civilization would beAnd on this pederasts Charlie had three-room cameras with call prostitutes? Yeah, nothing better than that
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 14 November 2015 08: 10 New
            -7
            Quote: Ruslan67
            It seemed to me that and older civilization will be

            Muslim, or what? Firstly, according to her actions, it is somehow difficult to consider her a civilization. Secondly, Mohammed was born in 570 from the birth of Christ. So if Western civilization is considered Christian, then it is more than half a millennium older. And if you consider it Judeo-Christian (at least the West considers itself to be just that), then you can add more than a millennium (if you count from the Exodus of Jews from Egypt). But pederasts and Charlie are, alas, the costs of the same freedom and shit democracy, which allows the Islamofascists to quietly and without interference prepare and carry out terrorist attacks. I hope that sooner or later the West will understand what liberalism is leading to. It seems like there was a message somewhere that France closed its borders - has the ice really broken?
            By the way, it still seemed to me somehow that the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 14 November 2015 09: 32 New
              13
              Quote: Nagan
              By the way, it still seemed to me somehow that the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?

              His Majesty the Russian people are diverse and identifies themselves as the Russian people
            2. PN
              PN 14 November 2015 09: 52 New
              +1
              And how old was Christianity when it carried out the bonfires of the Holy Inquisition and the Crusades? Yes, as much as Islam now. This is the so-called "transitional age" of religion. So do not drive the demon.
              1. Karlovar
                Karlovar 14 November 2015 14: 54 New
                0
                With the introduction of Christianity by Constantine the Great as the state religion in Rome, in fact, the era of the gloomy Middle Ages began in Europe ... To eradicate paganism, churches, works of art were destroyed, libraries were burned, as a result, scientific knowledge, technology, cultural values ​​were lost .. .For example, they lost the technology of glass, restored a thousand (!) Years later ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 14 November 2015 15: 05 New
                  0
                  Quote: Karlovar
                  With the introduction of Christianity by Constantine the Great as the state religion in Rome, in fact, the era of the gloomy Middle Ages began in Europe ..

                  You probably have punctuation marks not correctly placed.
                  Constantine the great. lived in the East Roman Empire in Constantinople.
                  Quote: Karlovar
                  To eradicate paganism, temples, works of art were destroyed, libraries were burned, as a result, scientific knowledge, technologies, cultural values ​​were lost ... For example, they lost the technology of glass, restored a thousand (!) Years later

                  Generally with dates such a mess.
                  1. Karlovar
                    Karlovar 15 November 2015 14: 15 New
                    -1
                    Constantine the Great (with a capital letter) lived and taxied as one Rome before the split into the western and eastern (Byzantium) parts ... And where he lived, in the sense he liked what he had to do with the East Roman Empire (which was not then) ??? Byzantium, it was Constantinople (city), but the Byzantine Empire was not yet !!! With punctuation marks you, dear, have problems .....
                2. Turkir
                  Turkir 14 November 2015 21: 01 New
                  0
                  An unusual story in Karlovy Vary. There is nothing to add.
                  Taking off my hat. The tragic picture is painted with wide strokes.
              2. sovetskyturist
                sovetskyturist 14 November 2015 15: 56 New
                0
                Dr. Richard Sagg: British monarchs ate human flesh ..... http: //nikolgrig.livejournal.com/175249.html Europe's 'Medicinal Cannibalism': The Healing Power of Death http://www.spiegel.de/international/ zeitgeist / europe-s-medicinal-cannibalism-the



                -healing-power-of-death-a-604548.html
            3. Sergey S.
              Sergey S. 14 November 2015 10: 15 New
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              Quote: Nagan
              somehow it still seemed to me that the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?

              You are very poorly oriented in religious wars. Excuse me.
              1. Western civilization, or rather the former Catholic, separated from traditional Christianity (Orthodoxy) in 1054. so that Western cultural values ​​are young and ancient cultures are antagonistic.
              The essence of the split - the territories of ancient states - Egypt, the Near and Middle East, Greece .. remained Orthodox. The territories of the Western Roman Empire became Catholic, on which the Roman law took root, where it is not caught - not a thief, not proven - not a traitor ...
              2. From the very split for the West, the worst enemies were not the Muslims who seized the Orthodox and Jewish lands, but the Orthodox Byzantium with its wealth and strategic position. Then the battle for the Balkans began ...
              In 1204, in the Crusade, the Western army did not even reach the holy lands - they besieged, captured and plundered Constantinople ...
              And when Constantinople was besieged by the Turks, not a single Western royal ... sent help to the perishing Christians.
              3. The choice of Alexander Nevsky is not necessary. This is criminal.
              Young Alexander fought the Westerners uncompromisingly, and agreed with the Horde .... he paid tribute ...
              At first, Smolensk fought off Batu, and then he himself asked for Horde ...
              L.N. Gumilyov very figuratively said about this: "Where do I have to go to look at Russian antiquities? Right, to the Horde ... Novgorod, Suzdal, Vladimir .. - the whole Golden Ring ... And where the Catholics ruled for some time, even foundations are hard to find ... "
              1. Karlovar
                Karlovar 14 November 2015 15: 24 New
                +2
                The Crusaders not only plundered Byzantium, but occupied it for more than 60 years (the empire began to be called Latin under them) .... After this occupation, the Byzantium was not able to recover from the “Crusader brothers” and in 1453 became easy prey for the Ottomans ... As for the Horde, it was precisely tolerance and freedom of religion, the rule of law ...
            4. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik 14 November 2015 12: 11 New
              +1
              Yes, calm down you !!! You will not succeed in turning the Russians against Muslims, the Russian genes are not the same as yours! And by the way, you have long ago destroyed everything Christian in the West !!!
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 November 2015 12: 22 New
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                Quote: Otshelnik
                Yes, calm down you !!! You won’t succeed in turning the Russians against Muslims, the Russian genes are not the ones you have!

                Yes, I do not need it.
                Russians treat Muslims very well and respect their customs and traditions. hi
                Quote: Otshelnik
                And by the way, you have long ago destroyed everything Christian in the West !!!

                Of course we are, who else.
                Isil did the same we did and fight there under the guise of Muslims. hi
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 14 November 2015 12: 32 New
                  +1
                  Igil the same we did and fighting fighting there under the guise of Muslims

                  Common words. Under the guise of religion, they do their work. I already said that
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 14 November 2015 12: 52 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Igil the same we did and fighting fighting there under the guise of Muslims

                    Common words. Under the guise of religion, they do their work. I already said that

                    Who would doubt your adequacy.
                    Of course, the Anglo-Saxons are fighting in Isil (along with the Jews), and Muslims are demonstrating with calls for love and tolerance.
                2. Otshelnik
                  Otshelnik 14 November 2015 12: 55 New
                  -1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, calm down you !!! You won’t succeed in turning the Russians against Muslims, the Russian genes are not the ones you have!

                  Yes, I do not need it.
                  Russians treat Muslims very well and respect their customs and traditions. hi
                  Quote: Otshelnik
                  And by the way, you have long ago destroyed everything Christian in the West !!!

                  Of course we are, who else.
                  Isil did the same we did and fight there under the guise of Muslims. hi

                  That's it, who else !!!
                  Nah ... you’re fighting women and children in Palestine .... But the igil were created to represent them to the world as Muslims and to fight with others ... for example, Iraq, Syria, Iran and, in the long run, Russia. ..
              2. Karlovar
                Karlovar 14 November 2015 15: 28 New
                +1
                This gentleman with an interesting flag, most likely of an interesting nationality ... It painfully fiercely hates Muslims.
            5. GRAY
              GRAY 14 November 2015 12: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: Nagan
              nevertheless, the Russian people identify themselves with Christian civilization. Or not already?

              The Russian people are Orthodox, and our country is multiconfessional.
              Christian civilization is what? If you mean the western nativity scene where the buggers marry bestialists, then we have nothing to do with them.
              They rotted.
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 14 November 2015 13: 09 New
            +4
            But why at the moment do we even take sides on any side? We have our own side, given by God and watered by the blood of our ancestors ...
            It is necessary to stand aside this time and see how the parents with the brainchild will butt ...
            And that everyone has already forgotten who bombed Libya? And, how the evil dwarf, the former president, galloped with joy when they torn down Gadafi ... By the way, Gaddafi just restrained all this stream of dishonesty in Europe ... Or, like the current one is fighting for the rights of perverts ...
            Be sure that tomorrow in European newspapers they will write that Russia and Putin himself are to blame for everything, it is they who will incorrectly bomb those who blow up Paris ...
        2. Karabanov
          Karabanov 14 November 2015 07: 49 New
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          Quote: Nagan
          It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam?

          These are two sides of the same coin. Western civilized obscurantism proclaims other slogans, but in fact they are only hypocrites and have not gone far from Islamic thugs.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 14 November 2015 15: 41 New
            +3
            Islamic cutthroats and far from civilized obscurantists !!! Indians were not Muslims, the slaves from Africa weren’t taken to America by Muslims, the Muslims didn’t initiate the Cross Wars, India was the "pearl" of not a great Muslim empire, Opium wars were launched not by Persian armadillos, both world wars not the Arabs and Persians unleashed, not the Turks burned Moscow in 1812, not the Arab gentry occupied Moscow in 1610-1612, Peter the Great did not clash with Suleiman the 12th in the Battle of Poltava, Constantinople was not plundered in 1204 sitsenostsami .... The list goes on ...
        3. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 November 2015 08: 07 New
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          Nagan "It’s just not clear what side Russia will be on - civilization or medieval obscurantism called Islam?"
          To indiscriminately moan one of the world's leading religions, dope and stupidity. For centuries we have been living with Muslims in one country. Unlike Europeans. Which were brought about 50 years ago by Moroccans with Arabs and said here take, live. We ask them to love and favor. Our Muslim peoples lived in their territories until their inclusion in Russia. Islam is a normal religion. Another thing is that it is turned by the fascist Salafists. Here they also need to be wetted.
          And then, what does civilization mean?))) And we, that we live in the jungle?))) I also have civilizers, he.h.r.o.v.s.))) They can only be temporary allies, they have their own interests in us ours. Russia is not a Western civilization, maybe close to it, but not Western. Our faith is not that. I agree with Muslims faster than with Catholics. That is, the Tatars are closer to me than the Poles. The Poles are looking at us from high. I mean Muslims, normal, traditional, and not Salafi-stubborn.
          Conclusion. Do not hell to drive indiscriminately the blizzard on Islam. This is one of the greatest religions of the world. And for example, Russians have been interacting with the Tatars for more than 500 years.))) Where do you suggest we move? Together with them we beat the Poles when your America was not in sight. And the French and Germans.)))) We will figure it out ourselves somehow. And we don’t need to frighten us, with consequences, etc. On which side Russia will be ... tyre pyr ... heh heh heh we will be on our side.
          1. kashtak
            kashtak 14 November 2015 08: 28 New
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            Quote: Nagaibak
            Swearing one of the world's leading religions indiscriminately

            it’s not crap anymore, it’s a provocation.
            1. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 14 November 2015 09: 36 New
              0
              chestnut "this is not nonsense, this is a provocation."
              Stopudovo.)))
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            1. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 14 November 2015 09: 34 New
              +8
              Nagan "And we have from them: Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321, etc. Continue the list, or is it up to date?"
              Once again for the alternatively gifted.
              This is the work of the Salafi Nazis. Islam itself does not pose a threat in itself. If you were a smart person, you would not have written this.
              And where does Islam love it?))) Russia has always been a tolerant country, and this is its strength. Since childhood, I grew up with Tatars and Kazakhs. And I respected their faith and customs. From afar you do not understand this under the American flag. To do this, live here. In our cities, there are no Muslim ghettos like in Paris and London. I have half the Tatars in my team. Of these, half are married to Russian women. And part of the Russians are in Tatars. Will you tell me tales about Islam? I know the family husband Tajik wife, Ukrainian. One son is Muslim, the second is Orthodox.))) Or a Tatar family where father and sons are Muslims, and mother and daughter Christians are Orthodox, even though all are Tatars.))) And these are not single examples. There are many of them. For you civilized it is of course wild, but for centuries we have got along and nothing.
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 14 November 2015 12: 50 New
                -7
                Quote: Nagaibak
                Islam itself carries no threat

                Stop cunning. He who has ears, let him hear; he who has eyes, let him see.
                1. Otshelnik
                  Otshelnik 14 November 2015 18: 02 New
                  0
                  Well, let’s not dissemble, (all the more bad business to compete with you on this issue) Islam A threat to Satanists ...
            2. 1goose3
              1goose3 14 November 2015 09: 36 New
              +5
              Who has What does the USA have to do with it, why are you clinging to Russia? Yes, Russia, had many troubles of this plan, including those that you have listed. But where do these troubles grow from, who gave birth, who created Ben Ladon and its structure, who turned up the Middle East and North Africa and created ISIS, who is still arming and financing it? Who tried to blow up the Caucasus, who financed the terrorists who organized the Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321?
              Behind all these events are visible "ears" of the United States, playing the Muslim card. And while the United States, this source and the hotbed of evil, will not be destroyed, there will be no peace in the world.
            3. Tusv
              Tusv 14 November 2015 09: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: Nagan
              And we have from them: Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321, etc. Continue the list, or so in the know?
              However, if this resource is crushed by Islam-lovers, I obviously have nothing to do here.

              They explained to you popularly that it is not necessary to confuse Orthodox Muslims with Salafists and Wahhabis.
              Faithful - Peace to your home. The Beasts of Islam - Your Last Habit of Sartirs
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 November 2015 09: 59 New
                +6
                Quote: Tusv
                They explained to you popularly that it is not necessary to confuse Orthodox Muslims with Salafists and Wahhabis.

                And how to distinguish them? Or do they go to separate mosques? Are they praying for another quran? Are they dressing differently? Speak another language?
                Let us already admit one fact (I again do not persecute Islam, I myself live in such a state and see more than anyone else, either one or the other) --- there is a problem of Muslim extremism, specifically Muslim and religious.
                Any base, any kind of explanation can be brought under it - such as Wahhabis, and these are true believers.
                You say that the majority of the faithful? So I’ll tell you that without the support of this orthodox majority, this Wahhabi minority would not exist.
                Many moderates perceive IS and Wahhabis as a shock detachment (some special forces) of Islam.
                Yes, they do not fight with them, but they support them.
                1. Nagaibak
                  Nagaibak 14 November 2015 10: 13 New
                  +1
                  atalef "Yes, they do not fight along with them, but they support them."
                  I don’t know about you. I know a lot of Muslim people. I have not heard a single word of support for Salafism.
                  Among the Muslims of the North Caucasus, there may be some kind of support, but not all of the population is for sure.
                  Therefore, when you discuss such topics from behind a hillock, you should understand that we can talk about specific regions, people, but not all Muslims in Russia.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 14 November 2015 10: 32 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    I don’t know about you. I know a lot of Muslim people. I have not heard a single word of support for Salafism.

                    Of course not laughing , just how many Russians in the IG? I watched a week ago or 2 how Kadyrov was talking with a group of Chechens (all youth) - caught before leaving for Syria?
                    Young, you want to say that no one knew where they were going? Not mom. not dad, not friends?
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    Among the Muslims of the North Caucasus, there may be some kind of support, but not all of the population is for sure.

                    Here it is not necessary only to generalize - one says - no one supports, the other says - everyone supports.
                    Do not enter into the absolute - the majority supports the IG, it raises their humiliated ego, they feel - yes we can do the same, we are strong, and in their mentality - the cult of power.

                    And of course, all Muslims understand that the Islamic State in general has nothing to fear - they generally do not touch their own.
                  2. Nagaibak
                    Nagaibak 14 November 2015 11: 23 New
                    +3
                    atalef "Of course not, just how many Russians are in IS?"
                    Thousands? Tens of thousands?))) Several hundred Chechens?))) So how many are there? I’m not writing that nobody is there. This is another moment. In different regions in different ways. And you all worked out one thing.
                    atalef "Here it is not necessary only to generalize - one says - no one supports, the other says - everyone supports."
                    Again. Not everyone supports it. In your opinion, 6 million Tatars and Bashkirs support them? No. If there are units. You do not understand what it is about? As already explained to you))) in the North Caucasus there is some kind of support otherwise the bandit underground would not work for so many years. But, you are talking about everyone and all Muslims with a single paint smear. I am against what. At the same time, Siberian Tatars live in a village somewhere near Tyumen, as before. They are Salafists and Buddhists. At work, whoever is not there. I did not come across their support for extremist statements, etc.
                    And of course there will be no caliphate. In addition to faith, there is also nationality, the complementarity of peoples. This is all and will break in the end. From the point of view of the Salafis, many of the customs of the Russian peoples professing Islam are inappropriate. But, these peoples will never abandon the remnants of paganism and their adat. That’s the whole story.
                  3. atalef
                    atalef 14 November 2015 11: 33 New
                    0
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    Thousands? Tens of thousands?))) Several hundred Chechens?)))

                    In general, the conversation is about 5-7 tons, the question is why they are fighting for the IG. not for Assad?
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    Again. Not everyone supports it. In your opinion, 6 million Tatars and Bashkirs support them? No

                    Can't you read? No need to generalize and ask about everyone as not all.
                    6 million or 300 tons - I say that there is support, in families, imams, etc. - otherwise how?
                    Why is it that Jews are not there, Christians are the same as Muslims from the Russian Federation do there? If not supported?

                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    But, you’re talking about everyone and all Muslims are smeared with one paint

                    You are talking about everyone, I never use words
                    All, not one and not having analogues in the world.

                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    From the point of view of the Salafis, many of the customs of the Russian peoples professing Islam are inappropriate. But, these peoples will never abandon the remnants of paganism and their adat. That’s the whole story.

                    The tale is that they will either destroy the pagans or force them to convert to Islam.
                    And this is all in accordance with the Quran.
                  4. Nagaibak
                    Nagaibak 14 November 2015 12: 42 New
                    +1
                    atalef "In general, the conversation is about 5-7 tons, the question is different, why are they fighting for IS. And not for Assad?"
                    And why are Chechens and Circassians fighting for Assad who have been fighting against us all their lives and left for Syria in the 19th century. Their diaspora is for Assad.))) 5-7 thousand. This is a stretch and very big. Why not 10-15 thousand? Is this taking into account the Uzbeks and other Middle Asia?))) In Turkey and Syria, censuses were conducted under Tsar Gorokh. The population of these countries is estimated, no one knows how much they live there.))) And you about figures of fighters speak. Who shamelessly lies such and their number will be.)))
                    atalef "No need to generalize and ask about everyone as not all."
                    So you generalize it. Like they all support ... I tell you this h.earn.ya in vegetable oil.)))
                    atalef "6mln or 300t - I say that there is support, in families, imams, etc. - otherwise how?
                    Why is it that Jews are not there, Christians are the same as Muslims from the Russian Federation are doing there? "
                    Damn ... Tatars and Bashkirs are not there either. If there is one, the unit is the kid who’s the brain of the s.a.s.r.p.a. And you again ask the question what Muslims from Russia do there, that is, again generalize. None of the world.))) We must first find out who is there. And then talk about Muslims from Russia in a general way how you do it.

                    atalef "The tale is that they will either destroy the Gentiles or be forced to convert to Islam."
                    Yeah, they are all half pagans there, they still feed the gods of the house. Who will force someone to go there and where is the question. Basayev won hope for the support of the peoples of Dagestan, but what happened? You probably don’t know?) They rose against him.))) You do not compare our North Caucasus with your baboons.)))
          3. Tusv
            Tusv 14 November 2015 11: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            there is a problem of Muslim extremism, namely Muslim and religious.

            Theosophy has nothing to do with it. Just a cover for a simple idea of ​​omnipotence. What was written on the badge of the fascist - God is with us, what is written on the dollar - We believe in God. And these are Christians !!! Who flooded the world with blood
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 November 2015 11: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: Tusv
              Theosophy has nothing to do with it

              As well as where (by the way, why did you use this word?)

              Quote: Tusv
              Just a cover for a simple idea of ​​omnipotence

              Exaggerate, the authorities want everything, but specific people, specific religions cut their heads
              Quote: Tusv
              What was written on the badge of the fascist - God is with us, what is written on the dollar - We believe in God. And these are Christians !!! Who flooded the world with blood

              Looking for a justification in history? On others we nod?
              It justifies, huh?
              That's because of such moderate believers and Wahhabis feel great.
              You defend and justify them - read carefully what you wrote.
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 14 November 2015 11: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              You defend and justify them - read carefully what you wrote.

              I protect the faithful Muslims from not just attacks, but to monsters a place in Sartir. A brief summary of my posts
        4. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 14 November 2015 11: 51 New
          +7
          I’m a Muslim and I’ll tell you Satan’s chosen one .... close the sewer ... you created them, maybe people don’t know here but we know that your ancestors sowed the change of their own shaitans 1400 years ago. (The most notorious Wahhabis are called Hawarids, Muslims fought with them another 1400 years ago. The battle of Siffein was the largest, the army of Satan was defeated)
          And then in the 19th century, you, Satan, chosen by the hands of the Anglo-Saxons, revived them ... (well, I think this info. Many already know)
          And now you see your offspring for us, for Muslims ...
          When sewerage clogs up what happens? That's it ... wait for your offspring home, now they are not sickly hammering in Syria ...
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 14 November 2015 12: 56 New
            +2
            Easy to nod to others. Only for some reason, wherever the blood of the innocent flows, you hear the bestial roar Allah Akbar.
          2. Otshelnik
            Otshelnik 14 November 2015 13: 47 New
            0
            Meaning, you want to say that when you kill children and women in Palestine, shout to Allahu Akbar? That's the news !!!
          3. miru mir
            miru mir 14 November 2015 14: 01 New
            0
            I said what I wanted to say. And if the meaning of what I said does not reach your brains, and you started translating the arrows, it is not my fault. Your co-religionists kill children, old people and women in Palestine, however bitter it may sound.
            Let's not take our heading off the topic of the article.
          4. Otshelnik
            Otshelnik 14 November 2015 18: 56 New
            0
            Listen to the unselected, truth has long reached my brain ... and my brains do not perceive your hypocrisy, and thank God!
            I will not be surprised that you kill the helpless, you are the people who killed the Prophets, what else can you expect ...
          5. miru mir
            miru mir 14 November 2015 19: 16 New
            +1
            Ek hooked you, sick laughing What hypocrisy do you mean? And you kill the helpless. And at the same time roaring, God is great, is it not hypocrisy.
          6. atalef
            atalef 14 November 2015 19: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: Otshelnik
            Listen to the unselected, truth has long reached my brain

            Lucky beggar
            Quote: Otshelnik
            I will not be surprised that you kill the helpless, you are the people who killed the Prophets, what else can you expect ...

            Why in the plural?
            by the way, call all the prophets, your religion (Islam as I understand it), and I will continue about the prophets.
    4. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 14 November 2015 23: 01 New
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      Well, you somehow grew up and lived most of your life in the Muslim republic. alive and well
      miru mir IL Today, 12:56 PM ↑
      Easy to nod to others. Only for some reason, wherever the blood of the innocent flows, the bestial roar of Allahu Akbar is heard.
    5. miru mir
      miru mir 14 November 2015 23: 07 New
      +1
      Was there such Islam in my homeland? The Kyrgyz did not read the Koran and its various interpretations. They paid tribute to traditions, that's all. Mom also at Easter baked cakes and painted eggs. Was our family religious, no, also a tribute to traditions ...
  • Karlovar
    Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 02 New
    0
    These "favorites" for some time now regularly use the Anglo-Saxons as cannon fodder to advance their interests ....
  • Otshelnik
    Otshelnik 14 November 2015 18: 09 New
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    Well, yes, the Wahhabis have their own mosques (by the way, this is still a question of whether these buildings are mosques), their prayers are different, their clothes are different, they even have different azan times. The Qur'an is interpreted as pleasing to me. I can continue, but I think you’re fine and without me you know !!
    1. atalef
      atalef 14 November 2015 19: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Otshelnik
      yes, the Wahhabis have their own mosques (by the way, it’s still a question of whether these mosques are mosques), they have their own form of prayers, the form of clothes is also different, they even have different azanas.

      The Orthodox, Catholics, Lutherans and Evangelists, etc. - the same
      differences in prayer, form (communion) and clothing

      Quote: Otshelnik
      I can continue, but I think you are all the more well and without me know !!

      Of course, no matter how different they are, they are all Sunni Muslims and believe in Allah, read the Qur'an just like you and pray just like you 5 times a day (well, you may be smaller)
    2. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 19: 40 New
      +2
      atalef (
      Wahhabis, this is a sect in Islam.
      Yes, it has a dominant position in Saudi Arabia, however, it is an extremely reactionary, essentially bandit sect.
      So why should a sect, its antics, be extrapolated to all Muslims?
      If this is to build logical premises, then where are the Jewish Orthodox Christians who do not want to serve Israel, then who are they?
      Maybe you’re better at your place, to figure out who is who, why and why, and only then, here or in another place, you will throw all sorts of absurd accusations?

      In Dagestan, in two villages, Kara and Chaban-mahi, at one time the Wahhabis showed what they stand for, traditional Islam of Dagestan has nothing to do with this sect and smear the same color, Wahhabi and Sunni sectarians in general, like Shiites, are not worth it .

      The Protestants, for example, the cooler Mennonites, had a mind for reason, with regard to any participation in government affairs, the former, the primacy of the Golden Calf, by the way copied from you, and the latter, the sect in its pure form, persecuted everywhere, nobody in the countries needs.
      The Baptists, whose den in the United States, are certainly a sect, totalitarian, not to mention all sorts of Moons, Hubbardists, and so on, so now, maybe they will be charged with them?
      And there is something for that.
  • Russiamoy
    Russiamoy 14 November 2015 19: 09 New
    0
    so in your opinion, it was necessary to destroy all Germans. they, too, all shouted hail and cried with joy when they saw the Fuhrer. lived next to the Nazis, sold them food, rented housing. but cutting off the hydra’s head, the problem disappeared.
    and people in the mass have changed. the main thing is that for Nazism, extremism, etc. there would be no fertilized soil and a favorable environment. the main thing is propaganda and ideology, only it is necessary on the contrary with a + sign.
    1. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 14 November 2015 23: 08 New
      +1
      why my comment appears elsewhere. should be like this:
      Russiamoya (1) RU Today, 19:09 ↑
      so in your opinion, it was necessary to destroy all Germans. they, too, all shouted hail and cried with joy when they saw the Fuhrer. lived next to the Nazis, sold them food, rented housing. but cutting off the hydra’s head, the problem disappeared.
      and people in the mass have changed. the main thing is that for Nazism, extremism, etc. there would be no fertilized soil and a favorable environment. the main thing is propaganda and ideology, only it is necessary on the contrary with a + sign.
      You say that the majority of the faithful? So I’ll tell you that without the support of this orthodox majority, this Wahhabi minority would not exist.
      Many moderates perceive IS and Wahhabis as a shock detachment (some special forces) of Islam.
      Yes, they do not fight with them, but they support them.
  • Turkir
    Turkir 14 November 2015 21: 08 New
    +1
    Muslim extremism

    Muslim extreme? It is very original.
  • Fafnir
    Fafnir 14 November 2015 09: 55 New
    +2
    If you talk like that - you have from the Catholics at least two world wars provoked by your "civilization".
    1. atalef
      atalef 14 November 2015 10: 15 New
      +7
      Quote: Fafnir
      If you talk like that - you have from the Catholics at least two world wars provoked by your "civilization".

      What does it matter what happened 100 years ago and how does it justify what is happening now?
      Here citing such examples as an example and justify these terrorug.
      Of course, all Christians are guilty of an indelible stain, because they cut off a member of some great-grandson of the equestrian prophet in some battle 1000 years ago.
      And this (type) they can’t forget to this day and will take revenge.
      It’s good to seek excuses, terror is terror and the answer to it may not be a tolerant wagging of your ass - but destruction.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 14 November 2015 11: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Terror is terror, and the answer to it is not a tolerant wagging of your ass - but destruction.

        The Israelite said destroying the houses where terrorists live. And you didn’t think that by demolishing a house you make enemies even more
        1. atalef
          atalef 14 November 2015 11: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: Tusv
          Israeli said destroying houses where terrorists live

          Unfortunately, it’s a pity that neither with them
          Quote: Tusv
          And you didn’t think that by demolishing a house you make enemies even more

          I didn’t think and I’m not going to think.
          The terrorist must be destroyed and his family must suffer.
          May we better them than they us.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 14 November 2015 11: 56 New
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          I didn’t think and I’m not going to think.
          The terrorist must be destroyed and his family must suffer.
          May we better them than they us.

          That’s why you are a patch of the enclosed desert, and Russia is a part of the world. Russia is wise. If a friend comes out of the enemy, then he will at least not spoil the house where he lives.
          For this, Russia is building mosques, not demolishing them. "Watering in Sartir" terrorists, but does not touch his house
        3. atalef
          atalef 14 November 2015 19: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: Tusv
          That's why you are scraps of a walled desert

          Refined, mind you
          Quote: Tusv
          and Russia is part of the world.

          wonderful and 7
          Quote: Tusv
          Russia is wise. If a friend comes out of the enemy, then he will at least not spoil the house where he lives.

          I like your reasoning, and from whom are you going to make friends? From ISIS?
          Quote: Tusv
          For this, Russia is building mosques, not demolishing them. "Watering in Sartir" terrorists, but does not touch his house

          will you comment?
          The leader of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, said on December 5 that terrorist families would be expelled from Chechnya without the right to return, and their homes would be demolished. He made this statement after the terrorist attack in Grozny

          Well, Kadyrov is not Russia. he is probably a Jew wink
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 14 November 2015 11: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Tusv
      And you didn’t think that by demolishing a house you make enemies even more

      They have been jumping on this rake for decades.
    3. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 November 2015 19: 01 New
      0
      Aha !! A rake is not only a garden tool
  • andj61
    andj61 14 November 2015 11: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: Nagan
    And we have from them: Nord-Ost, Beslan, A-321, etc. Continue the list, or so in the know?
    However, if this resource is crushed by Islam-lovers, I obviously have nothing to do here.

    Terrorists have neither nationality nor religion. When the Red Army factions organized terror in Germany, the Neo-Nazis and Red Brigades in Italy, the IRA in England, and the Basque ETA in Spain - is that what you think Christians killed Christians and Muslims?
    This is extremism based on turned brains, justified by the ideas of nationalism, communism, fascism, somewhere - Christian values, and in our case, covered by Islam. But these terrorists have nothing to do with Islam! First of all, Muslims themselves suffer from them!
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 15 November 2015 06: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Nagan
    I didn’t enter the month, and today, obviously, I also went in vain

    American, you probably drink a lot, look at your last comments, every day you leave traces on the site.
  • Karlovar
    Karlovar 14 November 2015 15: 52 New
    +4
    You are not right about the Poles ... They do not look high, but, on the contrary, understand their inferiority perfectly, they have a complex of a country of unfulfilled hopes (they began with the occupation of Moscow in 1610 and ended with four sections of Poland). The Pope deliberately brought up the Pope as a hyena in the war against Muscovy, and when it smelled of kerosene, with a clear conscience they threw them to deal with their shit themselves, took advantage of it and threw the number as a product ...
  • your1970
    your1970 14 November 2015 08: 58 New
    11
    Revolver
    "Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A couple of megatons for each should be enough. And do not scare the start of the 3 World .."
    Damaged and ??? Apparently you hope that the United States (Your Flag !!!) will remain on the sidelines and sit overseas ???
    You didn’t think about why people don’t like snacks in Russia ?? Ordinary normal people, why don’t they love ?? And you suggest - a trifle, so nothing ...

    I don’t even want to prophesy (it will come true 100%) - the calls “Kill a Christian neighbor !!! Avenge Mecca !!!” will immediately appear and the true believers (there’s no talk about fanatics !!!!) will go and kill and choke The West is in the blood, and they will not need any nuclear weapons ...
    How many Muslims are there in the US? From 6 to 15 millions (according to various estimates) - here you have at least 5 millions of dead people in the first days right away ... and no police / army can handle it ...

    Here forever the United States will do some kind of stupidity, and then the whole world is raking ....
  • mihasik
    mihasik 14 November 2015 09: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: Nagan
    ... It's just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism ...

    The nursery of medieval obscurantism is right there, under what flag you entered here. Can remind whose project is al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc.?
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 14 November 2015 09: 58 New
    +5
    Quote: Nagan
    It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam?

    Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Unclear???????????????????????

    And we understand that Russia has long been fighting the NATO Mordaire and a tolerant geyropa for justice and cultural values.
    Even against the oligarchs and some officials ...
    Is medieval obscurantism Avicenna, Nizami, Omar Khayyam or Charlie Ebdo with Jens Stoltenberg and McCain?
  • 0255
    0255 14 November 2015 11: 05 New
    +4
    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Che offer to blow up?

    Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further on the list. A pair of megatons for each should be enough.

    And according to Washington, sponsoring 99% of Islamism. Then there will be no funding for ISIS, al-Qaeda, or "moderate" terrorists.

    Quote: Nagan
    It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism, called Islam? If, against all odds, I still hope that I am on the side of civilization, then the 3rd World War will end relatively quickly, with little blood, and Russia will be among those who determine the post-war world order. And if Russia is on the wrong side, then the post-war world order will be gone.

    And Obama’s statements about the exclusivity of the United States, the “democratic” bombing - why not obscurantism? How much grief did the bombing of the Catholic Protestant NATO countries bring to people? How do your bombings for freedom and democracy differ from Islamism? In my opinion, only because you use bombs and missiles, and the Islamists use small arms, explosives and suicide bombers. And Russia, according to Western media, after the Crimea became "on the wrong side" laughing And the order is no longer post-war.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 14 November 2015 11: 32 New
    +9
    Quote: Nagan

    Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Qatar, Dubai, Baghdad, Tehran, and further down the list

    USA blow up to hell and the world will become cleaner, right away!
  • GRIG
    GRIG 14 November 2015 12: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: Nagan
    It’s just not clear on which side Russia will be - civilization or medieval obscurantism

    Revolver, but is it possible to clarify the very concept of "civilization"?

    Who is this ??

    Those who divide the terrorists into moderate and not so?
    Those who scream about the violation of the rights of people who cut off their heads wrong?
    Those declaring war on terrorists and at the same time throwing off / selling weapons to them?
    Those who buy cheap oil from the same terrorists?

    Or maybe these are the communities that tolerate Charlie cynicism from tolerance?
    Or maybe it’s those who put sticks in the wheels and goof about the “wrong” bombing of Russia in Syria?

    What kind of "civilization" can we talk about in the territories of Europe occupied by American bases?
    Where did you find her there, this "civilization"?
    Is it worth mentioning the double standards of "civilization"?

    But is it worth mentioning that last night in Paris, is it just a logical consequence of the cynical actions of your "civilization" that Europe practices at the direction of the ocean?

    Your "civilization" has long been discredited and devalued for a long time, but continues to behave as "the ultimate truth." Especially in relation to Russia.

    Revolver, Russia is not a country in which you can shake with beads and mirrors and exchange for different "nishtyaki" for yourself. And who told you that Russia along the way with your "civilization", which is not even able to protect itself?

    And how many show-offs your "civilization" has. NATO, European security, joint exercises (against Russia)). Honor, pathos, meetings, briefings, "preoccupied" ... And then a few bearded thugs came and set cancer in the European capital.

    Revolver, call yourself "civilization" and be it, these are different concepts.
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 15 November 2015 09: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: GRIG
      Russia is not a country where you can shake with beads and mirrors and exchange for different "nishtyaki" for yourself

      Purely for the sake of justice:
      Mechny and Alkash went for the “beads” themselves and when they changed the country to beads, the people for the most part did not mind drinking Royal alcohol and eating a new-fangled burger.
  • Amurets
    Amurets 14 November 2015 10: 38 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Che offer to blow up?

    I argued with you yesterday, today I support and propose to blow up Nagan.
  • mirag2
    mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 10 New
    17
    ISIS is not terrorists. Rather, a sadistic hippie sect, or something ... Yesterday I tried to post a video: "very soon", but the resource was blocked, that's where it’s horrible ... But the French still need to draw a picture like where in the stadium Igilov’s they play football with their heads. Nefiga wipe-both us and them! no options. This is not a joke.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 11 New
      0
      Here I’ll try to get this video again ... At worst, a link.
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    3. Das Boot
      Das Boot 14 November 2015 07: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: mirag2
      ISIS is a hippie sadistic sect ..

      Hrenase ... How is that?
  • Homo
    Homo 14 November 2015 07: 27 New
    25
    Quote: midashko
    And what about Charlie? In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.

    It will sound disgusting, but I will say. When someone dies or dies, write to me, I will draw a caricature of the death of your loved ones. And we all laugh together. And then let's look at your reaction !!! With such views as you need to be treated! am
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 November 2015 13: 55 New
      0
      He will not have a reaction ... they froze in the process)
  • Senior manager
    Senior manager 14 November 2015 07: 45 New
    +6
    The bills must be presented to the breadwinner IG - phonington.
  • Cheshire
    Cheshire 14 November 2015 07: 47 New
    +3
    And what about Charlie? In my opinion, they have quite harmless caricatures, with a nasty little smell.

    Exactly, with a vile darling. Apparently, you were not directly affected by the caricature of the A321 catastrophe in the Sinai, and God forbid that you touched.
    It is necessary to wet them.

    Until you were touched on the couch, everyone was Suvorov.
    In general, minus you. hi
  • Awaz
    Awaz 14 November 2015 08: 10 New
    +7
    terrorism did not have to be cultivated originally. France danced in the same team with the United States on the topic of the war against the USSR in Afghanistan, from where did Islamic extremism go, which right now in France has proved itself. These are not anti-Israeli groups; these are derivatives of what was created by the USA and its allies against the USSR, as well as the consequences of modern flirting with bandits.
  • Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 14 November 2015 08: 26 New
    +6
    Quote: Thronekeeper
    Charlie deservedly got a bullet in eblo

    And when will the pictures from Charlie appear? The people, of course, are sorry, but it is difficult to resist this question.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 14 November 2015 08: 29 New
    +8
    First of all, condolences to the French people from us, very sorry for the dead people. I hope it is over with the so-called Western tolerance values.
  • Juborg
    Juborg 14 November 2015 09: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Thronekeeper
    Charlie deservedly got a bullet in eblo


    What will humorists do this time? Maybe this time their frog prez itself will shut up forever ?!
  • Liasenski
    Liasenski 14 November 2015 09: 59 New
    +2
    I don't Charlie sympathize with the French
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  • attuda
    attuda 14 November 2015 12: 56 New
    +1
    Charlie deservedly got a bullet in


    Are these 153 unfortunate ex-people all your employees Charlie?
    Who is the plus plus tact?

    ... At least sympathy and condolences to the families of the victims in Paris
    And a lesson to all living ...

    The fourth world is getting warmer ...?

    “I would like to confirm the Russian side’s readiness for the closest cooperation with the French partners in the investigation of the crime committed in Paris,” Putin said. “I hope that his customers and performers will suffer well-deserved punishment.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 14 November 2015 06: 20 New
    17
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

    Charlie is having fun now, caricatures are coming up.


    The Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Paris.

    In fact, ISIS approved, but so far no one has taken responsibility.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 November 2015 06: 22 New
      17
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Charlie is having fun now, caricatures are coming up.

      fertile topic for "creativity" ... (sarcasm, if that ...)
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 14 November 2015 06: 49 New
        24
        My condolences to the French people!
        For them, this is Nord-Ost or September 11th. And Hollande must answer. I wonder who will go for? Will Assad ("This is for Syria") blame the Russian Federation or "turn on the brains"? After all, the Islamic State is a staging of the West. And surely terrorists entered the EU countries with refugees - now the whole EU will be under stress. Interestingly, France-Germany noted at a friendly match - they gave a hint to the entire EU. The refugee problem is becoming a cancer for Europe, now no EU country can be insured against terrorist attacks. The whole EU needs to decide what to do. Walking hand in hand in Paris, EU leaders will not solve the problem.
        This could lead to tension in NATO. France will appeal for revenge, while others, frightened, will begin to put pressure on the brakes. Canada has already left the coalition, the rich Arabs are occupied by Yemen. But since Europeans on a short leash near Washington, France is unlikely to join the Russian Air Force, Assad, the Iranians with Hezbollah. Rather, they will cooperate with the Kurds (but here the Turks) than with the Syrians.
        The French recently hit IG oil production. And this attack can be considered an answer - apparently the French did not bomb badly. hi
        1. Karabanov
          Karabanov 14 November 2015 07: 12 New
          +8
          Quote: Kasym
          Hollande is required to respond. I wonder who will go for? Will Assad ("This is for Syria") blame the Russian Federation or "turn on the brains"? After all, the Islamic State is a staging of the West.

          Islamic terrorists are feeding them, now they thank in full ... Yesterday there was a big article with Satanovsky, he said very correctly - They don’t understand how all those people whom they support hate them. And the more they support them, the more they hate them.
          I don’t know what they’ll come to and what they’ll decide, but the reaction will apparently follow. When this happens somewhere far away, it doesn’t really bother them, you can draw "funny" caricatures ... And now a blow to the very center of the solar plexus in Europe. We will see...
      2. evil partisan
        evil partisan 14 November 2015 09: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        fertile theme for "creativity"

        Look:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=humwInGPf_E
        What do you say? A hint, however ... Oh, close RT nnna ...
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 14 November 2015 06: 27 New
      14
      But there will be a weighty argument in favor of the ground operation in Syria, led by ... the United States, when viewing the news, I remembered the twin towers hi It’s a pity for people, only what did their government do to prevent this from happening? whatThis is a provocation or the result of their policy towards the Arab countries, the result is one! And in the states, as usual, there is silence, a paradise island, their mother is pi.pi.pi.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 14 November 2015 06: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: kot28.ru
        what did their government do to prevent this from happening

        Nothing special :: "huddled" with the United States, and not with Russia.
        Hollande thought it was better not to fight with the bandits, but to be friends with their master
      2. Aleksander
        Aleksander 14 November 2015 07: 00 New
        21
        Quote: kot28.ru
        It’s a pity for people, only what did their government do to prevent this from happening?

        People are certainly sorry, but the government did EVERYTHING for this to happen - support for the "Arab spring", the Syrian opposition, the destruction of Libya, the reception of refugees.
        Western man lived like "behind the glass"-there somewhere his French planes bombed Libya, there somewhere bombed Iraq, and he watched it on TV from a safe place far away and went to sleep. But today the glass
        broken and all the horror and blood suddenly surged into his house! And this is the result of HIS indulgence to his abnormal politicians ....
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 14 November 2015 10: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: Aleksander
          The western man lived like "behind the glass" —there somewhere his French planes bombed Libya, Iraq bombed somewhere, and he watched it on TV from a safe place and went to sleep. But today the glass
          broken and all the horror and blood suddenly surged into his house! And this is the result of HIS indulgence to his abnormal politicians ....

          This is compounded by the fact that at the head of the once great powers are puppets and outright insignificance, loudly called "leaders." In this case, the rag Hollande, who had recently called migrants to his home "for a while," recently decided to "take part" in the operation "anti-beard", trying to grab at least a leaf from a laurel branch, but got a huge cactus in the ass. And that trickster called Marine Le Pen an extremist ... Think, France, think ...
        2. Karlovar
          Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 27 New
          +1
          In a good way, Holland and Merkel, the inhabitants of their countries should impeach, and then judge, at least by the article "negligence" .... But there are no such citizens there, there is a gray mass of hamsters ...
      3. Karlovar
        Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 21 New
        +1
        If the United States goes to a ground operation in Syria, then the Chinese will also get in touch with the ground (they cannot allow chaos in Syria and the BV in general, for various reasons) .. How would the Russian Federation also not have to start the ground, at least keep an eye on the United States with its allies. .
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      2. Revolver
        Revolver 14 November 2015 08: 22 New
        -6
        Quote: xasharat
        Not one real Muslim, he won’t do that. I think this is the work of the Jewish Masonic elite
        Muslims slaughter Christians, and Jews, as always, are to blame. An old song, you just forgot to shout the hail in honor of your idol Adolf, and so reproduced close to the original.
        1. Arman13
          Arman13 14 November 2015 09: 16 New
          +3
          Dear, just do not hang all the dogs on Muslims. Islam is a world religion, like all religions, Islam values ​​human life and human values ​​above all.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 29 New
            +2
            Islam even (about uzhos) forbids usury ....
        2. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 14 November 2015 19: 06 New
          0
          But it’s interesting why people made the axiom of “and the Jews are guilty as always” ????? What did the Jews do, that everyone points a finger at them
          ...?
      3. Awaz
        Awaz 14 November 2015 09: 20 New
        +1
        normal yes, but how many normal Muslims remain. Right now, everything is smoothly turning into Wahhabis. And these are no longer Muslims. These are bandits disguised as Islam.
        Those who are now running around with guns in Paris are not anti-Israeli bandits - they are most likely the extortion of all groups like Al Qaeda, which were created to fight Russia and the USSR. In general, they are allies of the Jews, then I agree.
      4. miru mir
        miru mir 14 November 2015 13: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: xasharat
        Not one real Muslim, this will not do

        Yes Yes Yes belay It is very convenient to shift from a sore head to a healthy one.
    4. Karlovar
      Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 12 New
      0
      If the IG does not take responsibility for the Paris attacks, then this will be a good predictive sign ....
  • Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 14 November 2015 06: 31 New
    12
    maybe I’m an inert person, but when I read this terrible news at night, for some reason one single thought crawled into my brain - E.B.D.O. charlie how will react
    1. Combitor
      Combitor 14 November 2015 06: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: DrMadfisher
      E.B.D.O. charlie how will react

      Probably like that?
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  • vodolaz
    vodolaz 14 November 2015 06: 45 New
    16
    The people, of course, are sorry, but France, as a state, ran into herself. We are waiting for pranksters without borders from Charlie.
  • SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 14 November 2015 07: 20 New
    +1
    Here she is. The answer is tolerance. And this is just the beginning.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 25 New
      +2
      Here in RT, the live broadcast was:
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 34 New
        +2
        A few videos, maybe someone has not seen:
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 53 New
          +1
          Another relative svezhak, France Press post 42 minutes ago:
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 56 New
            +1
            same from the Associated Press:
  • Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 14 November 2015 07: 58 New
    13
    Well, "Charlie Ebdo" - it is rather from the field of psychiatry, this is to the doctor.
    And about the terrorist attacks in Paris - according to the media (TV "Russia-24") there was information that these terrorist acts are ISIS revenge for the actions of French aviation - air strikes on ISIS facilities in the last two days preceding the terrorist attacks in Paris. In this connection, I had a question: if the Russian aerospace forces mix ISIS with mud and sand in Syria for 1,5 months. That reciprocal "revenge" (the same terrorist attacks in Moscow or St. Petersburg) did not follow from ISIS (pah, pah, so as not to jinx it!). Is ISIS so afraid of Russia and its special services, or these creatures are preparing something large-scale. I hope that those Russian specialists whose professional duties include the prevention of terrorist attacks will be able to stop in time any creeps on this issue from both ISIS and those who are behind this ... "fighters for faith."
    I have the honor.
    1. Terminolol
      Terminolol 14 November 2015 08: 07 New
      0
      Will hope...
      Yesterday, a man arrived from Moscow, told that they are looking for 18 terrorists with bombs, children are not allowed to gather at public events. Maybe someone knows ... is this true?
      1. vodolaz
        vodolaz 14 November 2015 08: 21 New
        +3
        Even if this is not true, it is better to overtake than not to overtake. That's about the prohibitions, we have not heard anything, to be honest. Everything is somehow on the verge of rumors.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 14 November 2015 10: 18 New
        +1
        It's a complete lie, we have a situation under control in Moscow.
        1. Terminolol
          Terminolol 14 November 2015 11: 20 New
          0
          And thank God !!! What I wish to everyone!
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 14 November 2015 08: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      This ISIS is so afraid of Russia and its special services

      Most likely it is .... We have a lot of experience in this area! And we do not suffer tolerance! And most importantly, Russia has great prestige in the BV and many ties! "East is a delicate matter ..." And we are half Asians and we know how to feel all the nuances, and most importantly we can show strength and rigidity! These are the things in the intelligence service! hi
    3. Good me
      Good me 14 November 2015 09: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Aleksandr72
      And about the terrorist attacks in Paris - according to the media (TV "Russia-24") there was information that these terrorist acts are ISIS revenge for the actions of French aviation - air strikes on ISIS facilities in the last two days preceding the terrorist attacks in Paris. In this connection, I had a question: if the Russian aerospace forces mix ISIS with mud and sand in Syria for 1,5 months. That reciprocal "revenge" (the same terrorist attacks in Moscow or St. Petersburg) did not follow from ISIS (pah, pah, so as not to jinx it!). Is ISIS so afraid of Russia and its special services, or these creatures are preparing something large-scale.


      Linking the terrorist attack to the ISIS bombing exists as a version. But it seems to me unlikely that ISIS is able to plan and conduct such a large-scale intimidation campaign so quickly ...

      Most likely, the attacks were planned in advance, carefully and thought out. And coincidence with the recent bombing of oil fields controlled by the "Islamic state" is just a coincidence.

      Although, bearded men, they can declare that this is precisely revenge for air raids in order to show how quickly they can respond.
  • Taagad
    Taagad 14 November 2015 08: 04 New
    +5
    Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
    May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 14 November 2015 08: 14 New
      +9
      Quote: Taagad
      Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...

      And who will go just like that?) Do you think it is so easy?) A good half of refugees will take up arms, most likely there are caches there. So there will be war.
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 34 New
        0
        That's what the calculation is done ...
    2. your1970
      your1970 14 November 2015 09: 10 New
      +1
      export technology minimum 25-30% of the population of Europe tell me ??? !!!!
      Hitler destroyed the Jews fanatically and purposefully - and even then he couldn’t do it. And you offer a much larger and more complex event !! And by the way, where to evict who will accept them?
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 35 New
        0
        The United States will ... must ...
    3. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 14 November 2015 09: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Taagad
      Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
      May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!

      So start with the example of your country, the legislative prohibition of Islam. And do not forget about deportation. Db! Sometimes it’s better to be silent ... Some people always ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 10: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexey Lobanov
        Quote: Taagad
        Europe has 2 exit: either death, or legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
        May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!

        So start with the example of your country, the legislative prohibition of Islam. And do not forget about deportation. Db! Sometimes it’s better to be silent ... Some people always ...

        Yes, we would love to, you’ll start to cry first, and our left will sing to you.
        1. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 14 November 2015 10: 06 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Yes, we would love to, you’ll start to cry first, and our left will sing to you.

          Well, we do not yell about Angola! bully
        2. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 14 November 2015 13: 30 New
          +3
          Not entirely clear ... you can not or do not want?
        3. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 14 November 2015 16: 05 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Yes, we would love to, you’ll start to cry first, and our left will sing to you.

          Once again for the ignorant - Islam is prohibited by law in Angola.
    4. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 14 November 2015 10: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Taagad
      May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!


      The most interesting as always (I'm talking about Pearl Harbor and 9.11) is waiting for us later. To do this, such things are allowed (as in Pearl Harbor) or organized (like 9.11) so that the word "revenge" is well embedded in the head of the average man. Apparently this time the center of the world "mess" fell to become the Middle East, so the chance of "revenge" you will have in the near future. In general, let God help us all - probably still we (in the broad sense) managed to play out before the hot stage of the 3 world.
    5. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 14 November 2015 13: 28 New
      +4
      Does it seem to me alone that the creeping expansion of Islam to the north is taking place? In European cities, Christmas trees and girls are already forbidden to go in shorts ... "this offends the feeling of the Muslims", it is unclear how they penetrated these countries ... And this is at home! Spineless slugs!
      And in general, Marinka for president!
    6. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 14 November 2015 14: 08 New
      0
      May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!
      Amin ... and first of all in Palestine ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 14: 22 New
        -1
        Quote: Otshelnik
        May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!!
        Amin ... and first of all in Palestine ...

        Amen or Amen (so right), but to the Palestinians, what are you going to revenge for? wink
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik 14 November 2015 19: 18 New
          0
          Yes, you all correctly understood what and about whom I ....
          I must say that you sometimes do not answer my sometimes tough comments or go around sharp corners ... not bad!
    7. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 14 November 2015 14: 30 New
      +1
      Oh tolerant mother from Israel. pure nationalism. their nationalists also thought so after the deaths of those close to the French bombing and went to France. and a little higher in the comments, along with atalef, they directly aroused a tear with their philanthropy and tolerance and calls to be above all this. Bravo. you can’t hide yours?
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 14: 43 New
        -1
        Quote: Russiamoya
        Oh tolerant mother from Israel. pure nationalism. their nationalists also thought so after the deaths of those close to the French bombing and went to France. and a little higher in the comments, along with atalef, they directly aroused a tear with their philanthropy and tolerance and calls to be above all this. Bravo. you can’t hide yours?

        Russia is yours, what are we talking about?
        1. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 14 November 2015 18: 06 New
          0
          not there my comment / should have been related above to Taagad
          Now is the time to mourn over the innocently dead people ...
          \ Europe has 2 options: either death, or a legislative ban on Islam and deportation of the Islamic population at the place of residence ...
          May the blood of innocent victims be avenged !!! \
          ps Russiamay be written
  • Taagad
    Taagad 14 November 2015 08: 47 New
    +3
    These tragedies will continue and intensify until the West leaves a pink-liberalistic veil from the eyes: there is no so-called white and fluffy “right” Islam and “radical”. Islam is one, and in the Koran of this Islam, the pages ooze with hatred for the Gentiles (Christians and Jews). The West will either have to recognize Islam as illegal (as fascism) and deport Muslims from its territory, or perish ...
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 14 November 2015 09: 06 New
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      Probably you as a Jew and an Israeli are very confused by these lines of the Holy Quran (I quote a poetic translation by I.V. Porokhova, by the way recognized as the most appropriate to the Arabic original by experts in Islam who are highly respected in the Islamic world):

      Sura 95 (20). Fig tree
      In the name of God merciful, merciful!
      1. I swear by the fig tree (Mount of Jerusalem)
      Olive tree (Damascus hill),
      2. I swear by the (holy) Mount Sinai
      3. And this city,
      What is (so magnificent) safe, -
      4. We created man in the most beautiful of forms,
      5. Then We plunged him into the most insignificant state, -
      6. Apart from those who believed (to God)
      And righteous actions do:
      Countless rewards await them without reproach.
      7. Who then can object to you
      The inevitability of the Last Judgment?
      8. Is the Creator really not the best of judges ?!

      Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for war against the infidels (Christians and Jews) or show hatred of them. And everyone can interpret the lines of the Koran in their own way. In the same way, it can be argued that the Torah (Pentateuch) and the Talmud place the people of Israel above all other goys and call for contempt for goyim and even war with them - you can say so, but I will not do that. It is necessary to separate religion, faith and the so-called carriers are faith and religion. And your commentary contains both the truth (about the pink-liberal shroud in the eyes of the West) and the lie that the pages of the Quran oozing hatred towards the Gentiles (Christians and Jews) and the last statement can be considered a call to incite sectarian strife. God save us and Allah from this!
      I have the honor.
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 10: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for hatred against infidels (Christians and Jews) or show hatred for them

        The problem is not in the Quran, but in its interpretation.
        You know the old joke
        Conducting a psychiatric examination of a Serbian maniac, professor asks
        -And here, answer me, my friend, to a simple children's riddle
        --Winter and summer, one color

        --BREEDS (maniac answers)

        And say he is wrong?
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 14 November 2015 13: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        6. Apart from those who believed (to God)

        And with these how?
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for war against the infidels

        Do you want me to find you? By the way, explain what gazavat? AND takiyya?
        1. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 14 November 2015 23: 27 New
          0
          [quote] [Quote: Alexander72
          6. Apart from those who believed (to God)
          And with these how?
          Quote: Aleksandr72
          Reading the Qur'an, for some reason I did not find lines in it that directly call for war against the infidels
          Do you want me to find you? By the way, explain what is gazavat? And takiyya? / Quote]
          then why in other Muslim countries Christians and almost all areas of Islam coexist peacefully. for example in Lebanon. here where the country is a patchwork, abruptly Syria.
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 14 November 2015 23: 35 New
            +2
            Everything for the time being, for the time being. Not everything is so rosy in Lebanon. Why are there more mosques in Kyrgyzstan than schools?
      3. Karlovar
        Karlovar 14 November 2015 16: 43 New
        0
        So he is acting on science, tell the truth and dilute it with a lie ...., well, so that everything is accepted as the truth ...
    2. Bakht
      Bakht 14 November 2015 09: 14 New
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      Yes, you do not know Islam.

      Tell me how you can "legally" ban faith? In Israel, how many victims were there? And what, Islam is banned by law?

      It is criminal in this that they try to blame their sins and mistakes on others. Who claimed the policy of multiculturalism? In the Middle East (Islamic) countries there is no such thing. Who opened their borders and met the "refugees" with flowers? Why are Merkel and Hollande still in their posts? Who blew up dams on the way of migrants and destroyed several states?

      A hundred dead in Paris? It's horrible. And a million (according to some reports more) who died in Islamic countries over the past 10 years - is this wonderful? I can express my sympathy when the leaders of the Western countries (USA, France, England, Germany) stand up and publicly repent for the whole mess that they created. It is they, not the Islamists. Al Qaeda and the Caliphate were created by the Americans. Hamas was created by the Israelis.

      There is another vileness. When the security forces stormed the Nord-Ost, they almost sued Russia for excessive use of force. When the French special forces stormed the cafe - is everything quiet and calm?
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 14 November 2015 13: 20 New
        +3
        Islam is officially banned in Angola, whose population is 95% Christian.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 14 November 2015 18: 52 New
          +3
          I like talking with liberal democrats and adherents of Western values.

          Islam is almost banned in Australia and Japan. Perhaps there are other countries. To the question of how this relates to the principles of freedom of conscience, religion and other charms of the West - the answers are the most extremist. In general, from experience I can say that the most ardent adherents of democracy are the greatest extremists.

          Here on this site the words were said that Islam (the religion of almost 25% of the world's population) should be banned. Can we brand? Well, for example, in Germany, they obligated a yellow star to be worn in due time. Maybe you need to oblige to wear a green crescent in the countries of "developed democracy"?

          Oh Democrats, Pharisees ....
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 November 2015 19: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Bakht
            Islam is almost banned in Australia and Japan. Perhaps there are other countries. To the question of how this relates to the principles of freedom of conscience, religion and other charms of the West - the answers are the most extremist.

            Yes . I liked the answer of the Australian Prime Minister.
            it’s not a ban, it’s a completely different matter. do you disagree with him?
            Immigrants, not Australians, must adapt!
            Either take it, or leave!
            I’m tired because the nation is in constant unrest, have they offended any personality or its culture.
            OUR culture appeared as a result of more than 200 years of hardships, attempts, victories, which fell to the share of millions of men and women who sought freedom. Most of US speaks English, not Arabic, Chinese, Russian, Japanese or other languages. Based on this, if you want to become part of our society - learn our language.

            Most Australians believe in God. This is not some kind of pushing the idea of ​​the Christian right wing, but a fact, because Christian men and women created this nation on Christian principles.

            It is perfectly appropriate to demonstrate this on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I would suggest that you find another country, in another part of the world, because God is part of our culture

            We will accept your faith without further questions. All we say is take OURSHA in response and live with us in peace and harmony.

            This is our country, our culture and our lifestyle and we are ready to give you every opportunity to enjoy it with us.
            But after you have finished whining, complaining and resenting our Flag, Oath, our Christian views, I would like to inspire you to take advantage of yet another Great Australian Freedom. RIGHT TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht 14 November 2015 20: 09 New
              +2
              Well this is the opinion of the prime minister. Who apparently does not know that Muslims also believe in the One God. And they recognize Jesus, if not the son of God, then his messenger. Like Moses, by the way. And there is no hatred of Christians and Jews in the text of the Koran. There are interpretations of individual sectarians. By the way, recently they showed a photo of B. Netanyahu, how he shakes the handle of a wounded bearded man. And in Israeli hospitals treat militants. Moderately or not, B. Netanyahu probably knows better.

              But I’m interested in the moment itself: is it possible to ban religion? Or expel from the country on religious grounds? Or there are some other ways.

              Here I am following the discussion on this topic. Tell me, why did everyone cling to Islam? When the Red Brigades were engaged in terror or no Basques wanted to ban Catholicism?

              Who knows who is fighting ISIS right now? Syrian government army? So there are all Muslims. Kurds? Most Muslims are there. Well, the Yezidis and other faiths. But on land, the vast majority of Muslims wage war on terrorists.

              Prohibit Islam? I have not heard that such a plan in Israel. Whoever tries will receive a united front. And there really will be neither moderate nor immoderate.

              All this nonsense.
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 20: 25 New
                0
                Bakht
                This is not just the opinion of the “prime minister” —this is the opinion of the Anglo-Saxon Nazi, in a veiled form so far, which is not explicit, but clearly making clear the KKK is above all.
              2. atalef
                atalef 15 November 2015 00: 01 New
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                Quote: Bakht
                Well this is the opinion of the prime minister. Who apparently does not know that Muslims also believe in the One God. And they recognize Jesus, if not the son of God, then his messenger. Like Moses, by the way. And there is no hatred of Christians and Jews in the text of the Koran.

                I agree, but you apparently misunderstood his appeal
                Quote: Bakht
                I follow the discussion on this topic. Tell me, why did everyone cling to Islam? When did the Red Brigades engage in terror or did the Basques want to ban Catholicism?

                Red brigades waged religious terror?
                Here the question is precisely the Islamic roots of terror.
                Quote: Bakht
                Who knows who is fighting ISIS right now? Syrian government army? So there are all Muslims. Kurds? Most Muslims are there. Well, the Yezidis and other faiths. But on land, the vast majority of Muslims wage war on terrorists.

                Just do not, half the truth - worse than a lie.
                Shiites and Alawites are fighting the Sunnis.
                And those and those Muslims, only one consider themselves Muslim - why? This is you answer
                Quote: Bakht
                Prohibit Islam? I have not heard that such a plan in Israel. Whoever tries will receive a united front. And there really will be neither moderate nor immoderate.

                The Australian prime minister does not call for this, read carefully.
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht 15 November 2015 12: 37 New
                  +1
                  Half-truth is always a lie. But this can be addressed to any post published here. True - it’s like a faceted glass. There are many faces. From the very beginning, I believed that this was a Shiite-Sunni war. And then everything falls on the shelves. But ... not so simple. There are Sunnis in the government army.

                  If it were just a religious war between Sunnis and Shiites, then everything would be limited to the Middle East. A ratio of 80 to 20 in favor of the Sunnis. They often operate with such numbers, but they forget geography. Most Shiites in this area. But they defend themselves and the Sunnis almost crushed them. Why? Yes, because Sunni radicalism is fueled from the outside. And do not blame the Saudis. Feed comes from Western democracies.

                  Did terror spill over to Europe? The organizers consider this to be quite justified and the number of victims within the minimum. Nothing wrong.

                  We confine ourselves to Israel, without weaving the States. Israel solved its local tasks and decided that the destruction of the Shiite Hezbollah was to his advantage. And therefore, with all my strength I helped bearded men (I specially do not write ISIS or moderate opposition). There are no moderates. There are all bearded men. He helped with logistics and airstrikes and the treatment of the wounded. Evidence of darkness. Very short-sighted position.

                  You are trying to reduce everything to Islamic terror. But find the roots of this terror and be very surprised. Middle Eastern monarchies are the essence of the West. Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia would not have been possible without the support of the West. Al Qaeda, ISIS - all this is the political technology of the West. Quoting the greatest politician of our day, “Do you even understand what you have done”?

                  Save the secular regime of Assad and there will be no religious war and terror. But for 4 years now, Western democracies (I don’t know whether Israel is Western democracy) are trying by all means to overthrow the secular regime and establish the rule of religious fanatics.

                  And I understood the premiere correctly. But ... a strange thing, From the height of my age, I do not consider him an intelligent person. Idiot, he is an idiot in Australia. If you accept migrants to your country, then they will come with their culture. In the third generation, it may happen. So says the science of sociology.

                  By the way, here is another example of a complete inadequate prime minister
                  Davutoglu: Assad joined the coalition with ISIS against the Syrian opposition.
                  1. Bakht
                    Bakht 15 November 2015 17: 11 New
                    0
                    Masks are ripped off: Turkish intelligence chief proposes to recognize Islamic State

                    http://comments.az/topic/maski-sorvany-glava-razvedki-turcii-p/

                    Hakan Fidan summed up: “Putin's invasion of Syria is directed against Islam and international law. “Islamic state” is a reality. We look to the future with optimism. ”
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 14 November 2015 20: 28 New
            +1
            So condemn the atrocities of their co-religionists. Without any BUT. Democracy is not familiar with Islam in principle, but is very convenient for its own purposes.
            1. Russiamoy
              Russiamoy 14 November 2015 23: 31 New
              +1
              here yes. there must be a louder and more united condemnation of the leaders of the Muslim world and imams.
            2. Otshelnik
              Otshelnik 15 November 2015 11: 31 New
              -1
              They are not ours, they are yours, and we have been condemning you for many centuries ...
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 15 November 2015 13: 29 New
                +1
                Why on earth do you classify howling allah akbar to ours? I understand your Wishlist, but at least some sort of logic should be.
    3. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 14 November 2015 10: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Taagad
      The West will either have to recognize Islam as illegal (as fascism) and deport Muslims from its territory, or perish ...

      To the West - maybe. This is due to lack of culture, greed, cowardice and unscrupulousness.
      And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 14 November 2015 11: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Sergey S.
        To the West - maybe. This is due to lack of culture, greed, cowardice and unscrupulousness.
        And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.

        Sergey S. I agree with you completely and in everything. There is a wonderful saying in Russia: “They don’t go to someone else’s store with their charter.” You don’t need to introduce democracy where there is autocracy. It will only get worse. That’s what they reap in the EU. And don’t let God, so that somewhere else he would rush. But my heart feels that Paris will not end. It’s a pity that the innocent people are paying for the stupidity of politicians.
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 14 November 2015 13: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Sergey S.
        And in Russia, the Orthodox are already thousand years live and peace with Muslims.

        Are you kidding me?
      3. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 19: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Sergey S.
        And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.

        Come on you.
        Russia was baptized 1020 years ago.
        1. andj61
          andj61 14 November 2015 19: 38 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: Sergey S.
          And in Russia, the Orthodox have been living in peace with Muslims for a thousand years.

          Come on you.
          Russia was baptized 1020 years ago.

          Why is that alright? The neighboring Bulgaria, which has close ties with Russia, converted to Islam even earlier!
          The state Volga Bulgaria was located in the Middle Volga and Prikamye, arose in the X century. In 919, the governor of the Volga Bulgaria sent an embassy to the Baghdad caliph with a proposal to send the clergy to convert the country to Islam; Ibn Fadlan visited the Volga Bulgaria with the embassy, ​​leaving valuable notes on the Volga region. In 922, Khan Almush declared Islam as the state religion of the Volga Bulgaria.

          And some scientists - bully - they say that before the adoption of Orthodoxy, Prince Vladimir managed to convert to Islam! what
          According to the famous Turkologist O. Pritsak, Vladimir, being the Novgorod prince, converted to Islam, but then, in 988, he baptized himself and ordered Russia to be baptized, although already in 1014 the Bulgarian Kagan Muemin II again bent him to Islam. Pritsak builds his assumptions based on the work of the Arab historian Al-Marwazi (1120) and the set of Bulgarian annals “Jagfar Tarihe” (1680) and this is indirectly confirmed by the following facts:
          - Vladimir married the daughter of the Bulgarian Hagan, and according to Islamic laws, a Muslim woman can only marry a Muslim.
          - Favorite sons of Vladimir were Boris and Gleb, born of the Bulgarian.
          - Before the death of Vladimir, Boris and Gleb were the only supporters of his father and died at the hands of Svyatopolk's older brother, nicknamed "The Accursed."
          - The canonization of the first Russian saints - Vladimir, Boris and Gleb took place for a long time and indecisively.

          So it turns out even more than a thousand years! bully hi
    4. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 14 November 2015 15: 05 New
      +2
      there is a story. a few years ago (at the height of the Wahhabis in the Caucasus) I went with my children to another city. not far from Dagestan. slippery, icy road. tires did not have time to change. suddenly two hares jumped out on the brakes of a car I skidded off the track and ran into a fallen tree. so: in broad daylight, cars go and take off the telephone. 2 cars suddenly stop full of faces (as they say) of Caucasian nationality. By the way it’s clear that I'm Russian). so they ran up, made sure that no one was hurt, went to the car, disconnected the battery. they removed a car from a fallen tree, caused an emergency gang and, having waited for my relatives, left. everything happened pretty quickly, plus I was in a state of shock - I was scared for the children. while everyone came to their senses understood that they forgot to ask: who helped, say thanks. voooot! more than 10 years have passed I remember and thank them. I believed and believe that radicalism comes from a lack of education, just do not need for example the guard. and I advise you to read the Torah and the Qur'an and to each for yourself and compare
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 November 2015 15: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: Russiamoya
        there is a story. a few years ago (at the height of the Wahhabis in the Caucasus) I went with my children to another city. not far from Dagestan. slippery, icy road. tires did not have time to change. suddenly two hares jumped out on the brakes of a car I skidded off the track and ran into a fallen tree. so: in broad daylight, cars go and take off the telephone. 2 cars suddenly stop full of faces (as they say) of Caucasian nationality. By the way it’s clear that I'm Russian). so they ran up, made sure that no one was hurt, went to the car, disconnected the battery. they removed a car from a fallen tree, caused an emergency gang and, having waited for my relatives, left. everything happened pretty quickly, plus I was in a state of shock - I was scared for the children. while everyone came to their senses understood that they forgot to ask: who helped, say thanks. voooot!

        tell me, is this an ordinary case or does it always happen this way?

        Quote: Russiamoya
        and I advise you to read the Torah and the Qur'an and to each for yourself and compare

        What to compare?
        1. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 14 November 2015 18: 15 New
          0
          / tell me, is this an ordinary case, or does it always happen this way? /
          I can’t say, I didn’t conduct polls. I’m talking about myself thinking, at a time when everything seemed to be unambiguous.
          / What to compare? /
          all. I turned it to all sides of the dispute, and not just to you
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  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 14 November 2015 08: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: vyinemeynen

    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?


    Who exactly is in the span is the notorious “Charlie,” who faced a choice - either to “joke sharply” about the shot Parisians, which is fraught with unpleasant consequences (you never know who of the relatives of the dead will come to cut out the next editorial staff) or shut up your opinion there, where is the place for him, sacrificing the declared principle - "you can joke about anything" ...
  • forest park 86
    forest park 86 14 November 2015 09: 31 New
    +1
    Condolences to the French. Have the Shorley cartoons already come out?
  • Saratovets
    Saratovets 14 November 2015 09: 53 New
    0
    It's a pity for people, but the state of France has long run into such a thing ... This is an occasion for a more dense invasion of Syria
  • Lelek
    Lelek 14 November 2015 09: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?


    Charlie Ebdo dies with a laugh, drawing pictures of French terrorists falling under bullets. God - not a fryer - sees and remembers everything.
    Hollande and Merkel, Russia in the person of Putin and Lavrov warned you more than once about the possibility of what happened and offered you a hand in the fight against this evil, but you arrogantly rejected this hand and proclaimed your special (European) tolerance, so you got what you got.
    The Russians, like no one else, know the bitterness of losses from terrorist attacks, so we sympathize and condole the French in their grief.
  • 2s1122
    2s1122 14 November 2015 10: 11 New
    +2
    But it’s a pity to them that when they are killed they become good. As they say, they fought NATO and ran. An interesting journalist will also release a caricature, al how. The more terror there is, the sooner they will realize that digging a hole for others is dangerous for themselves.
  • northern
    northern 14 November 2015 10: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!

    Yes, sorry. But .. already somehow by inertia. I no longer have genuine pity for these people. This is about the dead either good or nothing. And about those living, for whom the murder of two hundred innocent people is just "Charlie," I have no printed words. What, the bombings in Paris claimed some more innocent lives than in that ill-fated plane ??? Yes you are just ebdo.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht 14 November 2015 10: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: north
      Quote: vyinemeynen
      A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!

      This is about the dead either good or nothing.

      It’s best to tell the truth. The quote was interpreted in antiquity. And this quote went for a walk around the world. In its original form, it sounded a little different.

      "About the dead nothing but the truth"

      Tetkorax was once asked:
      - How should one talk about the dead? Either good or nothing?
      Tetcorax replied:
      - People do not need silence; people need truth. But silence is still better than a lie.
      1. northern
        northern 14 November 2015 16: 10 New
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        Do not find fault with this inaccuracy of the wording, the essence of what I said, you are surely understood. Charlie magazine has millions of copies in Europe (this is not a joke, the information is publicly available). Here are so many Europeans in solidarity with the publication and naughty laughs at the death of innocent people in the sky over Sinai. I don’t remember something that the Russians would gloat over the deaths of civilians, wherever they were. I don’t feel any pity for the audience of this kind (which are Sui Charlie).
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 14 November 2015 17: 41 New
          +2
          I do not quibble. I love accuracy. This wording is sore. I, like you, will speak ill of any individual. Whether he is alive or dead. I just can't stand that phrase. According to her about Hitler, either good or nothing. Or Gorbachev (I do not distinguish them very much). Just darling .... Dogs love family. And hands to the elbow in blood.

          The French (and not only the French, all of Europe) received what they should have received. I am simply surprised that they got Ebdo so early.

          Recently, we all witnessed how "kindred spirits" in Ukraine also rejoiced at the deaths in the Moscow metro or over the Sinai in an airplane.

          Those who went to the concert are certainly not to blame. But this is the Western principle of collective responsibility. It was the West that has always acted like this. The people are responsible for state policy. Simple people. Hence the carpet bombing of Europe, Vietnam and Yugoslavia. Hence the sanctions against the Russian Federation. We will punish ALL citizens of the country, because their rulers are bad. The Islamists adopted what Europeans practiced in practice. The collective responsibility of the citizens of the country if someone does not like the policy of the state.

          For that fought for it and ran.
          1. northern
            northern 14 November 2015 23: 29 New
            -1
            Why not remember karma? It appeared in all its glory.
  • Skif83
    Skif83 14 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +3
    Charlie ... ebdo ... are all the little things.
    Sorry, speak?
    And when the women in labor were killed in Budenovsk, did Paris take to the streets too? Or London ... or Washington ...?
    They got what they fought for - liberal tolerance, which is synonymous with permissiveness!
    And we raked in Eltsin’s time when we tried to “plant” their stinky “values”.
    Only one thing worries, how much is Russia itself ready to repel such threats?
    Times are different, but the spirit of eagerness, bribery, indifference has not yet eroded from the blood of our law enforcers.
    So ... hope for God, and row to the shore ... laughing
    1. northern
      northern 14 November 2015 15: 16 New
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      No dear, it not the little things.
      On January 14, 2015, the next 1178 issue of the magazine with a circulation of 3 million copies was released. In Paris, it was sold out in 15 minutes. Thus, the magazine set an absolute record for the entire history of the French press. In the future (Thursday-Friday) it was planned to increase the circulation to 5 million copies. With a prepress add up to 7 million.
      In early February, the issue of the magazine was temporarily suspended, but resumed on February 24 (the previous issue reached a circulation of 8 million)

      Here is the number of people in Europe - active Charlie. Millions!
  • Koresh
    Koresh 14 November 2015 11: 48 New
    0
    Now in Europe will begin to panic and fear of Muslims and refugees from Syria. Europe is waiting for a wave of violence against Muslims, it’s worth waiting for it all the more so that Breivik’s heirs will appear all over Europe soon, and I think that this was what the terrorists wanted to put under their banner the refugees from the Muslims who live there. Here we can expect the birth of a new Hitler (but a little bit tolerant). But it’s a pity for the people, and the commandos who died during the execution. And where did the special services look ??? because of their negligence, so many people died.
  • Mikado
    Mikado 14 November 2015 12: 05 New
    0
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
    Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

    Removed from the tongue, there is nothing to add. I feel sorry for people!
    But the question is, have these hackers already begun to draw their crafts, remains open. Although, it seems to me, they will not draw ..
    1. northern
      northern 14 November 2015 23: 30 New
      0
      no, of course, circulations will fall, or even completely cover the bench.
  • ydjin
    ydjin 14 November 2015 13: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
    Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

    I worry that this show will continue! Puppeteers across the ocean, people will come up with a fairy tale, type people shap. After all, only Russia is to blame for all the troubles! Although here on our website many colleagues, including your humble servant, wrote: “A storm will break, Europe you are on the look out for!” But apparently the mind of Europe swam with fat! No matter how cruel, but can this tragedy sober them up? PS I offer my condolences to the victims and their families. We in Russia know what losses are: blown up houses in Nalchik and Moscow, Nord-Ost and Beslan. Remember ...
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 14 November 2015 13: 29 New
    +1
    Reinforcements for 1500 soldiers throughout Paris? What are Europeans completely impoverished? This is a drop in the ocean. soldier
  • izGOI
    izGOI 14 November 2015 17: 46 New
    0
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?

    And the second: Monsieur Sarkozy, and you bombed Libya on crap ?????
  • malalex
    malalex 14 November 2015 18: 36 New
    0
    Blasphemy test for Charlie's geeks. Now let them increase their circulation by 1000 times. I do not gloat. It's just that I'm NOT CHARLIE already.
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 14 November 2015 19: 39 New
    0
    And why is the vaunted French foreign legion still not wet the Isis in Iraq and Syria? In my opinion, they are just for this purpose and are intended. soldier
    1. northern
      northern 14 November 2015 23: 32 New
      0
      maybe just afraid? and not so much praised.
  • uladzimir.surko
    uladzimir.surko 14 November 2015 06: 14 New
    +8
    Can think they will be raised! am
    1. Renat
      Renat 14 November 2015 06: 56 New
      +4
      It is unlikely. It’s just cynical that some bad people committed this act, knowing perfectly well who for what purpose and on whose team committed the attack.
  • gop
    gop 14 November 2015 06: 14 New
    +3
    fuss went
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 November 2015 06: 19 New
      13
      Quote: Gop
      fuss went

      this is just the beginning ... easy breeze. sorry for the simple people, but the Holland hunt to hit with a head against the wall, however, like all stupidly.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 22 New
        +1
        Here you are right! How many “saboteurs” with refugees have leaked ... Enough for a small army, it’s enough to put the whole of Europe on the ears. Let's see what they’ll say about the unification in the fight against ISIS ...
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        1. SERGEY UI
          SERGEY UI 14 November 2015 09: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: Kos_kalinki9
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: Gop
          fuss went

          this is just the beginning ... easy breeze. sorry for the simple people, but the Holland hunt to hit with a head against the wall, however, like all stupidly.

          Sorry for the common people? And why didn’t the common people put up resistance to the German occupation, why now is it "stupidly" putting up with its "presidents" who put the country under a short-term uncle? So the French met the Germans.
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          2. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 14 November 2015 09: 10 New
            +1
            Yes, I specifically looked for photos without Stalingrad. Once again, the French did not want to attack the "sick" callus.
            1. Good me
              Good me 14 November 2015 09: 31 New
              +5
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Yes, I specifically looked for photos without Stalingrad. Once again, the French did not want to attack the "sick" callus.


              Why delicacy? Only in the lessons of history, you can understand the present ...

              Reference: http://topwar.ru/5524-neznakomaya-franciya-francuzy-protiv-sssr.html
              1. Kos_kalinki9
                Kos_kalinki9 14 November 2015 10: 07 New
                0
                Quote: Good I
                Quote: Kos_kalinki9
                Yes, I specifically looked for photos without Stalingrad. Once again, the French did not want to attack the "sick" callus.


                Why delicacy? Only in the lessons of history, you can understand the present ...

                Reference: http://topwar.ru/5524-neznakomaya-franciya-francuzy-protiv-sssr.html

                So let them learn. Why prompt? When through his tripe reaches the mind, it is better to digest.
  • Nymp
    Nymp 14 November 2015 06: 14 New
    23
    Well, now again there will be a bunch of European snot, the second series "I'm Charlie"! And it was not necessary to climb into Syria with the American ghouls! And by the way, Russia France warned that it would be so. Then they laughed at the Russians.
  • Truth
    Truth 14 November 2015 06: 15 New
    18
    I suspect that they did it theirs, and not foolishly, but under the control of specific services.

    Is it hard to believe?

    And here I am, as I see it, this is my personal, subjective, paranoid version.
    The crowd of migrants rushing and rushing, tolerance does not allow them to spread rot (mericosa will strangle anyone for their project), the locals are no longer just grumbling, they are already starting to howl ...
    Power can not, does not want, and simply can not control. The situation is stalemate ...
    But!!! If you anger a crowd and direct it against another crowd, it can very much work.
    And most importantly, you cannot find the guilty, you just need not to lose control of this "People’s Anger".

    ps Of course there are many options, but I somehow liked this one more.

    ps / ps And to find artists is not a problem, not one 404 country is rich in empty-headed ones, they are pretty wandering around the World.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 14 November 2015 07: 23 New
      +3
      It is also possible ... Many benefit ...
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 14 November 2015 08: 02 New
        +3
        No matter how regrettable, no matter how sorry the people, but this attack should pour water on our mill. After such a benefit, hardly anyone wants 50 tons of weapons to be dumped by unknown people in Syria. And a hundred times they’ll think about PZRK. And a thousand over whether it is worth giving money to bandits. And as for Assad, a turn may happen - he is the one who really fights ISIS with a gun at the ready. But we must wait for accusations of involvement of the FSB (Where can we go without us?) To this abomination.
        1. Truth
          Truth 14 November 2015 08: 31 New
          +2
          Regrettably, sorry for the people ...

          All "cars" of state policy operate on specific fuels:
          - This is the fate and life of ordinary people.
          1. olimpiada15
            olimpiada15 14 November 2015 09: 38 New
            +4
            I fully agree with the user Truth.
            This attack is provoked.
            It cannot be ruled out that the go-ahead was given by Fsh. Just on the eve of the next international meeting on Syria, the states decided to hold additional consultations with their mutual friend.
            Cynically? Yes, but that’s the handwriting of the states. They did not spare their citizens when they arranged 11.09.11/XNUMX/XNUMX. - Remember how the towers collapsed - it was a picture of the destruction of buildings prepared for demolition. The United States needs to expand public opinion in its favor, protect the terrorists they have grown (the money invested should bring income), to form public opinion under such a terrible terrorist attack — it costs nothing — shocked people will accept any slogan under the counter-terrorism sauce as the truth. The United States needs to send troops to Syria in order to get the terrorists out of the attack — and they will push through such a decision, and for this, a terrorist attack was arranged.
            1. cumastra1
              cumastra1 14 November 2015 10: 12 New
              +2
              Gaddafi had good intelligence. What prevents his supporters from organizing a "retaliation action"? It’s not cold to the states, not hot. And they will not get into Syria. Two elephants in one shop will not fit. The risk of a collision with Russia is too great.
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    3. your1970
      your1970 14 November 2015 09: 19 New
      0
      too difficult to control a half-country crowd at least?

      See 404 country or Romania (with Ceausescu) ...
      several thousand thugs easily overthrew the power / police / SBU / army, and now imagine that every Kiev citizen (2,867 million people) would just spit on the Maidan, the Maidan would be washed away simply ...
      And you are a crowd controlled in the back of the country, well, well ...
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 14 November 2015 06: 15 New
    33
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen Today, 06:14 AM New
    A terrible misfortune! Very sorry for the people!
    Why they didn’t prevent it, they warned of “all irons”!
    Charlie ebdo are we waiting?
    1. Truth
      Truth 14 November 2015 06: 36 New
      +5
      Urgently throw on charliehebdo.fr, let them publish it immediately, don’t ask for a fee ..
  • Persistent
    Persistent 14 November 2015 06: 16 New
    23
    My condolences to the dead and their families !!!
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    2. kashtak
      kashtak 14 November 2015 08: 41 New
      +6
      I join in condolences. uncomplicated died again.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 14 November 2015 06: 16 New
    +2
    The number of refugees in one country should be limited, especially since France is actively fighting terrorism. It would be strange if there were no Jews among those who entered France. Another issue is the work of the special services. Apparently, it turned out to be unsatisfactory.
    1. domokl
      domokl 14 November 2015 06: 22 New
      +7
      It's not about refugees. A lot of Frenchmen were in Syria and Iraq. What did they do there? Those who blew up this filthy Charlie at one time are also, by the way, from the same ones. But the fact that refugees will start to shake now and this will cause further escalation is obvious.
      1. Persistent
        Persistent 14 November 2015 06: 57 New
        35
        It's not about refugees.

        The West will once again curse the day when it destroyed Muammar Gaddafi, which caused the puppy delight of “Mad Clinton” He looks into their eyes !!! Who is next ?? England ?? Germany ?? Time will tell ....
        1. Saratovets
          Saratovets 14 November 2015 10: 04 New
          +3
          I respect Gaddafi more and more, there was a smart man, if he hadn’t rushed about like ... then Russia would have covered him like Assad
        2. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 14 November 2015 11: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Persistent
          It's not about refugees.

          The West will once again curse the day when it destroyed Muammar Gaddafi, which caused the puppy delight of “Mad Clinton” He looks into their eyes !!! Who is next ?? England ?? Germany ?? Time will tell ....

          Gaddafi's main problem is that he thought that Europe was solving something. NOTHING!
      2. Good me
        Good me 14 November 2015 09: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        It's not about refugees. A lot of Frenchmen were in Syria and Iraq. What did they do there? Those who blew up this filthy Charlie at one time are also, by the way, from the same ones. But the fact that refugees will start to shake now and this will cause further escalation is obvious.


        Absolutely right. Moreover, all this, the legacy of colonial, and "thought-out" national policy ...
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 14 November 2015 06: 36 New
      +7
      Quote: dchegrinec
      there were no Judas among those who entered France.

      It turned out. But apparently not enough, now everyone who came along will be bugged by everyone, both the authorities and the local population.
      But hatred is mutual and, as a result, ISIS will have more units in Europe.
      The process began - in French Calais, unidentified persons set fire to a refugee camp. Information about the dead or injured has not yet been reported.
      1. Homo
        Homo 14 November 2015 07: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: GRAY
        ... now all the comers will be bugged by everyone, both the authorities and the local population.

        It is unlikely that they are too tolerant, cowardly and prefer comfort to the fight against terrorists.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 14 November 2015 07: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Homo
          It is unlikely that they are too tolerant, cowardly and prefer comfort to the fight against terrorists.

          Do not scratch everyone under one comb, not all of them are like that, the camp in Calais was not burned down by itself.
          In addition, the 150 dead can hardly be called "comfort." Terrorists have unambiguously rocked this swamp, and even if the authorities do not turn the nuts on the refugees, then among the French there will be radicals by any means.
      2. retardu
        retardu 14 November 2015 10: 28 New
        0
        It is high time and so it is necessary to do everywhere with refugee camps.
        I wonder how quickly it comes to them that refugees need to be evicted, not allowed in.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 14 November 2015 10: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: retardu
          It is high time and so it is necessary to do everywhere with refugee camps.
          I wonder how quickly it comes to them that refugees need to be evicted, not allowed in.

          Refugees are not to blame, those who let them go are to blame, and without any filtering.
          Refugees welcom, Che.
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 14 November 2015 13: 37 New
          +2
          Burn refugee camps? But nothing that there are children, women. Do they carry out terrorist attacks? You can’t accept men as refugees. It’s bad in their country - he took a weapon and went to fight! All refugees are concerned, including from Ukraine!
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    3. hydrox
      hydrox 14 November 2015 06: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: dchegrinec
      France is actively fighting terrorism.

      Do you call the actions of France "fight"?
      Nanai boys are fighting - oh, how beautiful!
      Or do you call the fight licking ass tanned president, the owner of these killers?
      What, then, do Russia with the Syrians?
      The cause of this terror is the United States, and some France is already a consequence, and if the United States is not stopped in the production of killers and chaos, then we all can only live our lives in fear under the CIA Damocles sword and terrorists with a smoked president this year around the world prove that the Russian plane and the French cinema are just a prelude to real terror.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 14 November 2015 07: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: hydrox
        The reason for this terror is the United States, and some kind of France is already a consequence

        And Hollande knows about this and Merkel, but they go on about the United States, and innocent people suffer because of this.
        1. Good me
          Good me 14 November 2015 09: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: GRAY
          And Hollande knows about this and Merkel, but they go on about the United States, and innocent people suffer because of this.

          In the final analysis, and the states that are following the course of the United States as a whole, such events do not bode well.
          Therefore, there will be demand from their leaders ...
          Unfortunately not the one they deserve.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 14 November 2015 10: 02 New
            0
            Quote: Good I
            In the final analysis, and the states that are following the course of the United States as a whole, such events do not bode well.

            Pindos will certainly take advantage of the situation, will push through the ground operation - well, ISIS attacked the NATO country ... The United States will try to force the states under their control to fight for American interests naturally.
            1. Good me
              Good me 14 November 2015 10: 12 New
              0
              Quote: GRAY
              Pindos will certainly take advantage of the situation, will push through the ground operation - well, ISIS attacked the NATO country ... The United States will try to force the states under their control to fight for American interests naturally.


              So let's see which of the states you have not named do not realize that what happened, the result of their compromising policies, will once again go on about the United States ...
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 14 November 2015 10: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Good I
                once again go on about the United States ..

                The first backlog is already there, Bardak Obama has already called what is happening "an attack on all of humanity." Hints, while still subtle.
                The media also work out their bread:
                French journalists equated the attacks in Paris to declare war on France. Some media outlets wrote directly about this on Saturday, Interfax reports.

                “This time it's a war,” the daily Le Parisien stated. The position of colleagues is shared by the publication Le Figaro, which published on the front page a summary of the tragic events under the heading: “The war in the center of Paris”.

                In their materials, French journalists unanimously called for the unity of the country and the population in the face of terrorist threats.

                “France will be able to remain united and act as a united front,” the article says Le Parisien.

                “It is impossible not to connect these bloody events with the hostilities in the Middle East. France plays a role in them. And she should continue to act in the same way without hesitation, ”Interfax quotes Liberation morning publication.
  • spech
    spech 14 November 2015 06: 17 New
    +3
    Maybe after that it will reach them that the terrorists do not care about kavo kill or will Charlie draw pictures again?
  • Humpty
    Humpty 14 November 2015 06: 17 New
    +4
    Let’s see what Charlie will draw there. They kissed the jackals.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 14 November 2015 06: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: Humpty
      Let's see what Charlie draws there.

      What does Charlie have to do with it?
      "Tse Europa" with tolerance, multiculturalism and freedom of movement.
      Russia warned that it would be EXACTLY THIS if Europe did not understand whose side to take!
      Thanks to the States for feeding the ISIS terrorist bastard and Ukrainian fascists to our heads. That terrorists, that ukrofashists - are engaged in the same thing, only ISIS - are just bandits, and ukrofashists do this as part of a semi-state.
      1. Good me
        Good me 14 November 2015 09: 58 New
        0
        Quote: hydrox
        What does Charlie have to do with it?
        "Tse Europa" with tolerance, multiculturalism and freedom of movement.


        You forgot to mention the notorious “freedom of speech” and tolerated tolerance, as an element of “Tse Europa”.

        And Charlie, as part of these "pious virtues", fits perfectly into the general chaos.
        1. andj61
          andj61 14 November 2015 11: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: Good I
          And Charlie, as part of these "pious virtues", fits perfectly into the general chaos.

          good Not just fits - this little magazine is an integral part of this chaos! hi
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 November 2015 11: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: andj61
            Quote: Good I
            And Charlie, as part of these "pious virtues", fits perfectly into the general chaos.

            good Not just fits - this little magazine is an integral part of this chaos! hi

            Hi Andrew.
            Of course you know my attitude to the French and France
            I do not condone the killing of the innocent. but going out to the demonstration - WE'RE ALL CHARLIS, think the same thing.
            They probably think that having passed the crowd and with the slogans along the Field of Mars, they will defeat terror.
            Although the story comes back, so they fought fascism
            But for some reason, not only were they among the victorious countries, but also among the permanent members of the UN Security Council.
            1. andj61
              andj61 14 November 2015 17: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              They probably think that having passed the crowd and with the slogans along the Field of Mars, they will defeat terror.
              Although the story comes back, so they fought fascism
              But for some reason, not only were they among the victorious countries, but also among the permanent members of the UN Security Council.

              hi Why were the winners and members of the Security Council - this is understandable. Stalin insisted on De Gaulle as the leader of post-war France, as opposed to Britain, while in China Chiang Kai-shek was in charge. True, De Gaulle wanted to rule the dictator, although the French themselves later called on him.