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Magomed Tolboev: "Only from space today you can protect the country"

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Magomed Tolboev: "Only from space today you can protect the country"After decades of devastation and attraction of mockery, the Buran seems to be returning as a boomerang - for nothing, reusable! On the eve of the next, 27, anniversary (November 15 1988) of the first and only triumphal flight in the unmanned mode of the Soviet “shuttle”, a person who taught to fly this technical miracle tells about his trials and prospects for rebirth.


- Magomed Omarovich, what was it like to you - the person who was directly involved in the development of this super-project was to find out that the program “Energy-Buran” was worthlessly curtailed? When did a copy of the space shuttle be carried as a carcass along the Moskva River, then putting it as an attraction in Gorky Park of Culture and Leisure, and the roof of the hangar in 2002 fell on the original?

“Of course, it hurt me and all my comrades who participated in the trials.” The Energy-Buran program did not cease to exist overnight. By the way, the decision of the government is still not officially closed. It was suspended in 1990 by the Ministry. aviation industry, which is not there now, its functions are transferred to a number of other departments. Three years later, she was "mothballed." By the way, since the Energy-Buran program began with a resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU, only the president of the Russian Federation can, in theory, cancel it today. In general, the destruction of this unique space project, like many others, was a logical consequence of the "disaster" historical epochs when it became fashionable to deny all past achievements, cut into scrap metal and put into scrap.

- You were part of the test pilot of the manned analogue of Buran 12 - (BTS-02 OK-GLI) called the “Volkovskaya dozen”. Tell us how you got to the party, led by pilot-cosmonaut, Hero of the Soviet Union Igor Volk?

- I am generally surprised how I became a pilot. I grew up in the mountains, did not know Russian, shepherd. I have never been to Makhachkala before! But somehow I made it to flight school in Yeisk, where there were no direct trains from the capital of Dagestan.

As a result, much more educated Russian guys were not selected, and I was among the 225-ti (from 1196 enrolled) enrolled in the school. Only 123 people came to release. In 1977, I entered the cosmonaut corps, passed almost the entire commission there, “cut off” on medicine: due to several catapults, I had 4 Schmorl's hernia. After that, I returned to the military unit. He flew to Germany for three years, visited Angola on a “business trip”. He ended up in the squad of test pilots. It was generally the strongest school in the world. This is still nowhere else. I always compare it with the Bolshoi Theater, ballet. It is impossible to say about someone in the world that he is stronger ballet, well, even "La Scala" in the world is, but there are horse - opera.

- And when you first saw the "Buran" was a perception that it is "prima ballerina" more?

- Honestly, at first glance I could not believe that he would fly at all. In appearance - a suitcase with wings weighing 80 tons, like a small train. On the other hand, we knew then that a lot of the most serious specialists were working on the program. Later we received exact figures: six thousand enterprises, a million 200 thousand highly qualified specialists. And all together - 3 million 600 thousand. Of course, we realized that we have the last responsibility, that we have in our hands a fragile “golden egg”, We can drop it, but we can save ...

“And how did you experience this precious colossus?”

- There were horizontal flight tests. On the Buran analogue with mounted engines from Su-37 and Su-27, we performed flights to test its landing on the ground. In general, there is no comparison with the aircraft, except that it flies! On the plane you are landing on a glide path with a tilt angle of two degrees 40 minutes and a maximum speed of 5 meters per second. When closer, the 2-3 meters per second. And we have a speed of decline - 120-160 meters per second! This 360 kilometers per hour vertically downwards and thus more forward 1800 kilometers per hour. The algorithms developed by us formed the system of automatic landing, which the real “Buran” had already produced from space. Yes, so successfully that the world gasped.

Separately worked out the salvation of the blocks. The ship "Buran" was a central unit, where the most powerful four-engine, and there are four groups of 4 engine, it is valuable units. When I accompanied the “Buran” on takeoff, my task was to photograph the separation of the “Energy” side blocks: whether they were connected to each other, how they entered, that is, all the visual parameters. It turned out that they are very symmetrical. By the way, it depends on how they disconnected, instantly or with a delay of 0,1 seconds. The task was to put on them the chassis and the parachute system for landing. This rescue system just did not have time to finish.

Later, we were taught in Zhukovsky French test pilots as part of a reusable space program "Hermes". They from the Orion-5 launch vehicle were supposed to launch their ship, which was all the way smaller than the Buran in terms of weight and dimensions. No one had such experience in our world, and still does not have it!

The hardest moral, psychological blow was dealt to us - the second set in the Volkov squad. The first set was older than us on 15 years, and still others did not even have time to feel anything.

Crews have already been identified, the numbers of the ships, who will fly with whom, who is the commander, who is the second. And suddenly - the program turned. If we continue the “theatrical theme,” it seems that after the first brilliant dance of the entire ballet troupe with the prima in charge, the curtain suddenly falls, the audience and actors are announced: disperse, the continuation of the performance is postponed for an indefinite time ...

- And what, there were any non-standard, non-standard situations?

- Surprisingly, it was not connected with “Buran”. This program itself, despite its originality, was realized with the highest technological requirements. At that time, the electronic industry lagged behind the American one, the Japanese one. We remember the difference between the Japanese and our portable receivers, tape recorders ... But despite this, there was not a single serious failure in electronics during the flights!

- There was a legend that appeared in the film “Buran”. The constellation of the wolf "about some rock, overtaking one after another testers of the Soviet shuttle. That is, people who were associated with the tests of the ship, died early under various circumstances. Weren't you afraid when your comrades suddenly began to leave one by one? Then, like an investigation and even our security services has been initiated: Is not American "friends" will adapt the series of deaths ...

- Yes, different hypotheses were put forward. But nothing of the kind was found there. There is an ordinary work of professionals, and there are mistakes of professionals. And the fact that the guys died, it was the excess of the possibilities of professionalism itself ...

- The Energy-Buran program was the last “technical feat” of the Soviet Union, however, some still say that the USSR was killed as a result of the war in Afghanistan and economic overstrain during the construction of the space shuttle ...

- Let no tales be told! Why did America not fall apart from the lunar program? For that time, they have invested huge amounts of money - 14 billions of dollars in direct government investments, not counting the funds raised. But what was the explosion in the field of radio electronics! Now they have paid for this program a hundred times!

- Not going to be smaller and practical "way out" of the Buran - there is plenty of high-tech, ranging from unique skin! I know a company that rose in the production of industrial furnaces, starting with a small cooperative of muffle furnaces, inside of which there was a “Buranovskaya” hot-melt ...

- All these technologies would find application in the national economy, would cause a qualitative leap in many industries. For example, for the first time on the Buran, for synchronization of eight computers, a quartz oscillator was used, which supplied a single grid of clock signals of the 4 frequency of the megahertz. Where was it ?! If the program "Energy-Buran" continued, then this system would also find application. But, apparently, someone really did not want this ....

- Despite his own work, ranging from the sketchy “lapot” of Pavel Tsybin, myasishchevsky and Tupolev, chelomeyevsky rocket-planes to the “Spiral” of Lozino-Lozinsky, the CPSU Central Committee gave the developers a direct instruction to copy the American shuttle ...

- It was the fear of an American: the ship "Discovery" then dived from space directly over the Kremlin - on 70 kilometers. And then he bounced and left the tracking system from orbit. This can be compared with when you let the “pancake” in the water, and it ricochets from the waves and jumps several times until the force of gravity is stronger. The system of entry into the atmosphere is the same - you click, bounce off, and, losing speed, you approach the ground. The American shuttle, diving over the Kremlin, frightened our old leaders.

- Since last year, in the media, following a statement by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, a not very active, but noticeable wave of discussions about the possibility of resuming the space shuttle program has gone. There were even proposals, almost in accordance with the previous drawings, to renew the “Buran”. In your opinion, should it be done?

- Of course you need! It is necessary for the country both technologically and emotionally. Because it will become the strongest national stimulus - a symbol of the rise of industry, science and the human spirit. If Russia succeeds, the whole world will move forward.

Of course, it is necessary to do this, using the principles developed, scientific reserves, and the method of testing the apparatus. We got very good results then, and they are not outdated. Although the technology itself, technological processes, of course, are completely different. In the design of the shuttle, for example, composites can take up to 80%.

- But it’s no secret that the “Energy-Buran” program was mainly sharpened for military purposes, and putting such a payload into orbit was not related to peaceful tasks, at that time, at least ...

- Of course, Buran mostly had military tasks. There were manipulators, with the help of which it was possible to throw satellites from orbit. So, the task was worked out - to remove from orbit and take to Earth the long-term US station Skylab. Special lungets were prepared for this in the ship's hold - 16 long and 4,5 radius of meter. We on the ground have already worked laser, electromagnetic guns. I worked with them in the institutes, shot, worked. It remained only to put them into orbit. Experiments were successfully carried out for the Buran on the recognition of combat heads: the false ones had to be distinguished from the real ones.

- So we should return to the “defense” space shuttle?

- Required. We have to save our country.

- Save from space?

- Exactly. Only from space it can be protected today.

“Why then don't the States try to resume the program of their shuttles?” Today, at least, we hear nothing about it.

- They have no need. In America, everything is there, no one will ever attack it, they know about it: they will never dare to attack it either from the air or from space.

- And what could the Buran project look like today?

- In my opinion, it is necessary to build primarily small-sized shuttles on the project “Lightning”: the crew of the 2 man, and everything else is a hold. Load capacity there 5 tons. This is a lot! With the help of such shuttles it is rational, in my opinion, to build on Earth's orbit a large “jump station” to other planets in deep space. Shuttles in this case would become space trucks. They would bring building materials for this orbital mega-design itself, modules of spacecraft that could be screwed right in orbit.

- A lot of criticism sounded on the economic part of the program "Energy-Buran". They wrote that, they say, they made a cart, and then they went to look for a load for it. Say, a lot of money was wasted. By the way, economically and with the Americans, this too was not justified.

- We must do everything with the linkage. If we take separately "Buran" - it is really a meaningless waste of energy. Imagine you are growing, for example, one ton of grain, like a peasant. You have enough for your family, and enough for your neighbors to sell. You can take this one ton on “Zhiguli” to the flour-grinding factory, grind and quietly go home. Why do you need to buy KrAZ, with a load capacity of 40 tons for this? But I am sure that the economic, “peaceful” tasks for Buran would certainly have appeared if the USSR had not collapsed.

Then, I will tell you - well, it is impossible to measure everything with money, the rate of profit, like our “effective managers” - a dollar there, a dollar here. So we and the satellite, and the person never in space would launch.

The dream of mankind has always been to learn how to fly, like birds — ever higher, farther and faster, to get to the Moon and other planets. And what would it be available once to any earthling.

Sometimes, however, it starts to seem to me that we are the last of the flight dreams of the Mohicans. I personally fly on everything that is held in the air: on a parachute, on a paraglider, on a Boeing. But there are only a few like me. I personally 65 years. I, thank God, saved health, energy. But will someone come after us? These thoughts are alarming. After the collapse of the USSR, we went the wrong way and now painfully, slowly get out of it. However, I will say another thing - our country is not poor and not poor, as the "opponents" want to present us. We are a prosperous nation today. I always say "do not anger God." Thank you for living in such an age. What do you whine all the time? Do not whine, and work.
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  1. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 14 November 2015 15: 50
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    God save me from friends, and I can handle the enemies myself. Sapienti sat.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 14 November 2015 15: 54
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      Yes! OUR "Humpbacked friend" to the song of overseas "friends" took and killed "Energy-Buran"!
      So far, no one has done anything of the sort in grandeur!

      PS: I watched the launch of Energia and Buran as a child! I've never seen anything cooler in my life! Although later he himself took part in the launches of the Soyuz and Protons! This is also grandiose, but they do not stand next to Energie!

      PS: Seeing, watching the slow, painful death of the Energia-Buran program, tears flowed like a river.
      And if you saw what infrastructure was built for this program! Mini city! Aseichas he is DEAD! like Chernobyl! Only Without explosions, without a fight!
      1. Temples
        Temples 14 November 2015 15: 59
        56
        - Well, you can’t measure everything with money, the rate of profit, like our “effective managers” - a dollar there, a dollar here. So we would never launch a satellite and a man into space.

        Golden words!

        After the collapse of the USSR, we went completely the wrong way and now it is painful, slowly getting out of it. However, I’ll say another thing - our country is not poor and not poor, as the “opponents” want us to imagine. We are a prosperous nation today. I always say "do not anger God." Thank Him for living in such an era. What do you whine constantly? Do not whine, but work.

        I agree.
        Very positive person !!!
        Thanks to the author for the article.
      2. Tor5
        Tor5 14 November 2015 16: 34
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        How much has been lost. And not "on the vine", but practically in its prime ....
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      4. Sterlya
        Sterlya 14 November 2015 16: 45
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        Quote: Baikonur
        Yes! OUR "Humpbacked friend" to the song of overseas "friends" took and killed "Energy-Buran"!

        This is just one of the projects that our Brokeback friend killed, together with EBN they destroyed the whole country. Not like Buran
        1. onix757
          onix757 14 November 2015 17: 25
          -14 qualifying.
          Humpbacked, of course, is hunchbacked, but the Tushino machine-building industry has dropped to the level of an artel already under Putin
          1. Buffalo
            Buffalo 14 November 2015 19: 50
            15
            It's a lie! Already under Yeltsin, TMZ began to produce metal shields for riot police, which were used in conjunction with "democratizers" (rubber truncheons). In the workshop where the Buran's cabin was being felled, they began to brew tanks for beer, wine, etc. The space program stopped, the aviation program stopped even earlier (the MiG-23 was being built there), the plant was redesigned and the assembly of buses began there.
            1. onix757
              onix757 14 November 2015 19: 59
              +5
              21.08.2013
              For several years, the Tushino Engineering Plant has been “hanging” between the resumption of work and the final closure. Despite the fact that the main shareholder of the enterprise is the city of Moscow, despite the multimillion-dollar financial injections of the past years and the unique team, despite the numerous appeals of employees to the president and deputies of the State Duma, TMZ is now closer than ever to closure.
            2. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 14 November 2015 23: 53
              +4
              And at our institute, where we were engaged in promising developments in automation and robotics, we began to design equipment for the production of caps for canning fool
          2. Maj.
            Maj. 14 November 2015 20: 02
            +2
            and why some criminals are not judged, yes by court vip
            1. go21zd45few
              go21zd45few 15 November 2015 13: 51
              +3
              Who are the judges? Those who ruined and sold Russia posthumously erect monuments to them, and the living still ruin and sell Russia, can they carve themselves out. But if the people continue to turn their necks under the ax, then Russia will be surrendered to the west and disappear as a state.
          3. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 14 November 2015 20: 45
            +2
            These are the consequences of the actions of previous leaders, now they hiccup.
      5. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 14 November 2015 16: 58
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        and how many such Chernobyls happened in the 90s !! my heart bleeds ... Therefore, I can’t calmly watch old films about the war, tears are welling up - which country our grandfathers saved and how mediocre it was ... and their descendants! And how long should we restore it ...
      6. Buffalo
        Buffalo 14 November 2015 19: 23
        +8
        The death of the program was instant. Shortly after the first flight, funding for the program was stopped ...
        A bit of history. During vibration resistance tests of the bow of the ship's fuselage, together with the cockpit module inside, the rear wall collapsed at the point where the hinged support of the astronavigation unit was attached. By that time, the management of RSC Energia and NPO Molniya already realized that the program was under threat of closure. The destruction during vibration testing made manned flight impossible. Realizing that there was no time and money for revision, it was decided to launch the ship in an unmanned version, using the existing reserve. And that was absolutely the right decision.
        Otherwise, an unmanned flight would not have taken place.

        Clarifications:
        BTS 002!
        The team of I.P. Volk was called "wolf pack" behind the eyes.
        MOTolboyev met and examined the "Buran" in the air, on the MiG-31, before landing at Baikonur.
        1. kare
          kare 14 November 2015 20: 19
          +8
          I think that Lozino Lozinsky's "game" has not yet been played to the end
          1. dali
            dali 15 November 2015 00: 37
            -1
            Quote: kare
            I think that Lozino Lozinsky's "game" has not yet been played to the end
            Well, who's to say that the Kommunyak elite did not betray the USSR? They decided to become lords ?!
            1. dali
              dali 16 November 2015 14: 30
              0
              Well, who is against the fact that the party bonzes, the leadership (starting almost everywhere with the 1st secretary of the district committee) of the CPSU (Kommunnyak elite) betrayed the USSR that they decided to go to the bar ?! Four minusers - and justify neither how - nor how?
              1. Tatar
                Tatar 16 November 2015 16: 05
                +1
                betrayal cannot be replaced with another word
                1. dali
                  dali 17 November 2015 23: 17
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                  Quote: Tatar
                  betrayal cannot be replaced with another word

                  100% agree ...

                  shl
                  Tatars are the descendants of the Volga Bulgaria. Present Tatarstan is 4 times smaller than the Volga Bulgaria.

                  The Russians and the Bulgars were very friendly nations, events were recorded in which the Volga Bulgaria helped with the food of Russia in a dry and hungry year. There was a proverb: "rather, the stone will begin to float, and the tree will sink, than the Russians and the Bulgars will quarrel."
      7. Maj.
        Maj. 14 November 2015 20: 00
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        and now there are many incompetent comrades to say the least. they are heard
      8. lis-ik
        lis-ik 14 November 2015 20: 14
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        After distribution, I ended up at the Motor Design Bureau, it seems that it was a purely automotive theme, but we made a transport chassis for the 17U720 unit, as it turned out later it was Buran, now it's not secret. I personally designed the mud guards for the car, though I was only 19 years old. So I participated a little.
      9. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 14 November 2015 20: 43
        +4
        In Crimea, even a reserve strip was built. When EBN drank Crimea and Sevastopol, they plundered.
        1. THE_SEAL
          THE_SEAL 16 November 2015 16: 02
          +1
          Quote: serezhasoldatow
          In Crimea, even a reserve strip was built. When EBN drank Crimea and Sevastopol, they plundered.

          And the grandson of EBN is hanging out in California. And it’s not a dishwasher.
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      11. Lexa-149
        Lexa-149 17 November 2015 11: 45
        0
        He traded half of the country for the Nobel Prize ... Borya-drunk stupidly drank the second half ...
    2. cniza
      cniza 14 November 2015 15: 58
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      - Required. We have to save our country.

      - Save from space?

      - Exactly. Only from space it can be protected today.



      All enemies can be seen from there and all can be kept on "sight". In general, such a program was stopped ... The Gorbachevs, etc.
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      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 14 November 2015 16: 20
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        What are you lying to? What for?
        Read his biography! He is not a civilian, but a military test pilot, and he is Honored!
        -Since 1984 - test cosmonaut Buran reusable spacecraft [1] [2] [3], Deputy Commander of the Cosmonaut Test Unit LII.
        1. northern
          northern 14 November 2015 16: 27
          +1
          Talk to the commander of that detachment, Igor Volk, and ask about the fact that Tolboev trusted in these tests, as well as how he was enrolled in this detachment. I also recommend asking Alexander Garnayev the same questions, in those years he commanded a detachment of test pilots No. 1 in the LII.
          And Tolboev himself, even to himself, might not tell something, I could hear it.
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 14 November 2015 16: 32
            +4
            Of course, I can’t talk with the commander of that detachment, Igor Volk, and ask about the fact that Tolboev trusted in these tests, and also how he was enrolled in this detachment!

            Enlighten! Very interesting!
            1. northern
              northern 14 November 2015 16: 35
              +1
              http://www.buran.ru/htm/anabst.htm
              M. Tolboev not only NEVER flew these tests, but was never included in the roster = neither the main, nor even the backup crew

              Moreover, everywhere this hero claims to have experienced Buran.

              Tolboeva, by the way, the link to this site is usually enraging, it is not mentioned anywhere, but for the rest, for some reason, strange ...

              And chatting with the same Garnayev is very simple, for example, here https://www.facebook.com/alexander.garnaev?fref=ts
              1. Armored optimist
                Armored optimist 14 November 2015 16: 42
                +4
                He took part in the trials of Buran. The truth is not in the crew. And, for example, as a pilot of the MIG-25 escort.
                1. Baikonur
                  Baikonur 14 November 2015 16: 55
                  +2
                  Here's what else I found - An article about him - Heroes of a vegetable warehouse (indeed interesting!) -
                  http://polit.ru/article/2013/10/18/tolboev/
                  1. northern
                    northern 14 November 2015 17: 08
                    0
                    The article is very significant
                2. northern
                  northern 14 November 2015 17: 07
                  +4
                  “As a test pilot, I participated in the creation of the Buran spacecraft, which terribly scared Americans,” Tolboev proudly boasts to reporters. Without specifying that his role in the "creation" was limited to video filming of the Burana flight from the MiG-25. And then, he did not shoot, but Sergey Zhadovsky sitting next to him.
                  1. onix757
                    onix757 14 November 2015 17: 10
                    +1
                    What does it change?
                  2. Timeout
                    Timeout 17 November 2015 15: 29
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                    Quote: north
                    Tolboev boasts with pride

                    With Tolboyev and his brother in general, strange "unexpected events" happened, each was awarded a gold star for some unknown reason, the elder 1992 and the younger 2007. There was information that the elder helped his kunak Dzhokhar with the conversion of trainers into combat ones when he was a deputy. The youngest, having served in the ZakVO for 4 years after graduating from college, managed to get into the Lipetsk PPI and, according to our valiant press, test all the aircraft that existed at that time. And as a military representative at ULAZ, he arranged a catastrophe with the death of a person. Moreover, he is not a certified helicopter pilot. In short, even those "comrades".
              2. Buffalo
                Buffalo 14 November 2015 20: 19
                +6
                Well, in comparison with Garnayev A.Yu., Tolboev M.O., at least he did not work in the USA and never lived there.
                Although, he is not perfect ...
      2. Dyusseldorf
        Dyusseldorf 14 November 2015 17: 21
        14
        Did he buy the star of the hero in the transition? belay Or did the "magazines" give it to him? you also forgot to add that Buran was made of cardboard and was filmed on a Mosfilm, and you alone know this secret.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 17 November 2015 15: 39
          0
          Quote: Dyusseldorf
          Did he buy the star of the hero in the transition?

          Dear, didn’t you think what you received for? Yes, even in 1992. What were such achievements then? Apparently such thoughts did not visit you at all. And at that time, EBN, to celebrate the joys of all his close associates and their comrades, was distributing the newly invented award not at all for real merits.
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        1. northern
          northern 14 November 2015 18: 24
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          Quote: saltickov.
          a group of patrons do not morale a person from themselves that represent ki State Department.

      4. jPilot
        jPilot 14 November 2015 18: 32
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        And we have that, HA PILOT, a fucking indicator !!! I really would not have thought, if so then why the code of military pilots is "written off", we have a queue (really). I haven’t received the epicrisis yet, but I’ve already got the calls. Subsequently, during retraining for commerce and civilian types, all instructors were really "oozed" to the limit.
        I won’t write for the rest, although if a person even indirectly participated in any activities related to the testing of a particular aircraft, he already has the right to say that he participated.
        Moreover, a person really writes a lot of correct and relevant.
        Or you do not agree that what happened with Buran is not a betrayal of the interests of the country and treason !!!!
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 14 November 2015 21: 05
          0
          Eugene, tell me it’s true that the Air Force pilots are not willing to take on civilian airlines, supposedly there is an order not to take civilian aviation! Specific?
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      5. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 14 November 2015 20: 48
        +1
        Facts for discussion, and so ...
      6. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 14 November 2015 21: 00
        +8
        Well, they took it and talked about the person.))) Maybe he didn’t fly on the Buran, but they just don’t award people.
        From the wiki "During the period of flight test work, he mastered and tested dozens of types and modifications of aircraft. On account of his tests MiG-23M, MiG-25, MiG-29, MiG-31, Su-24, Su-27. The USSR national aviation sports team mastered and for the first time took to the skies several types of ultralight sports and experimental aircraft, made 2 successful emergency landings of aircraft with an inoperative engine and one landing of a Su-27 with a destroyed tail unit.

        In 1976, he catapulted from an uncontrolled MiG-15 UTI aircraft. According to other sources [what?] The bailout took place for educational purposes. Being the head of the PDS 642 guards. Apib M. Tolboev conducted educational demonstration classes.

        Tested the strength of the aircraft MAI-89, performed the first lift into the air of ultra-light aircraft "Elf", MAI, M-15, "Staer" and others.

        In 1983-1994 he completed a full training course at the Y. A. Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center. LII astronauts were preparing for manned flights on the Buran reusable spacecraft. During the Buran program, he worked out manual control systems and automatic landing on a Tu-154 laboratory aircraft equipped with the Buran control system, and the MiG-25, aerodynamically close to the Buran MTKK [3].

        On November 15, 1988, during the return of the Buran from orbital flight, the MiG-25 aircraft was piloted with optical-television surveillance equipment designed to transmit information about the external state of the Buran to the MCC during landing.
        Direct line with Vladimir Putin,
        2013 year
        As secretary of the Security Council of the Republic of Dagestan, he negotiated with field commanders, took part in measures to prevent the spread of hostilities to Dagestan. In 1999-2000, he was Deputy Commander of Aviation of the Moscow District of Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation [3] and Chief Inspector of Aviation of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. "
        Hero of the Russian Federation (November 17, 1992)
        Order of the Red Banner of Labor (1989)
        Honored Test Pilot of the Russian Federation (1996).
        Title: Colonel.
      7. marinier
        marinier 14 November 2015 23: 12
        +1
        Hello!
        No-goze so the officer-hero is vilifying, especially knowing, 4to
        will not answer. Not in Russian!
        I wish you all the best!
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      8. yan 2015
        yan 2015 15 November 2015 11: 16
        -3
        If only the pages of VO did not stain this phony hero and phony tester of Buran, on which he did not make a single flight, unlike the real "wolf pack".

        I believe that the author of this vyser and dirty pages of the site.

        it’s funny when the Internet general decided that he can give an assessment of the activities of the real Hero of Russia.
    5. War and Peace
      War and Peace 14 November 2015 16: 35
      0
      I have long said that it is necessary to launch nuclear weapons into space in spite of these stupid bans, a rocket will fly 300-500 km from America from space in minutes and America with all the Rothschilds and Rockefellers and no aegis will help ...
      1. AUL
        AUL 14 November 2015 17: 36
        +3
        Do you think that in this case the mattress covers will not hang the same crap over the Kremlin?
        Sometimes it’s useful to think before you say anything. And even more so, write on the entire Internet!
        1. Dyusseldorf
          Dyusseldorf 14 November 2015 17: 45
          +6
          I think that they will hang in any case, but they are ashamed to apply, knowing that the same crap hangs over them ...
        2. War and Peace
          War and Peace 14 November 2015 18: 13
          0
          Quote: AUL
          Do you think that in this case the mattress covers will not hang the same crap over the Kremlin?
          Sometimes it’s useful to think before you say anything. And even more so, write on the entire Internet!


          this is a view from the aul, in such a case as the deployment of a nuclear-space group will be only one desire is not enough and in this case there will be someone who has more advanced space technology, for example, in the USSR, space stations were developed, and amers do not have it wasn’t expected (skyleb is an American lie), and so we could create a station with missiles, but they took on us an agreement on not placing nuclear weapons in space, we had an LEVER OF INFLUENCE on politics, but instead refused it. If we list all our losses in space, just because we were imposed on stupid treaties, there will be a whole list
          refusal to deploy nuclear weapons
          -failure from the SPIRAL program
          rejection of the LUNAR PROGRAM
          - abandonment of the BURAN PROGRAM
          -failure from the ENERGY program
          rejection of the MIR program
          - adoption of the ANGARA program (erroneous decision)
          THESE ARE CRIMINAL ERRORS made by the leaders of the USSR and Russia ...
          1. Yurmix
            Yurmix 14 November 2015 18: 39
            +5
            Quote: War and Peace
            THESE ARE CRIMINAL ERRORS made by the leaders of the USSR and Russia ...

            After the arrival of the labeled one, the collapse of the USSR had almost begun, followed by the assassination of everything opposed to the Yankees, I personally do not think that the Union collapsed after the Belovezhskaya Pushcha. And I will never believe that the hunchbacked one did not know that his reforms could happen, that he did not say he was not a cook. And I won’t be surprised if during my life it will be known about this freak that these were not mistakes in his rule.
            1. Xsanchez
              Xsanchez 16 November 2015 22: 14
              0
              Everyone writes only about the mistakes of Gorbachev's rule: perestroika, then and there. And in my opinion, if you carefully analyze his actions, there were no mistakes: Gorbachev acted purposefully, he confidently, with leaps and bounds, led the country to collapse! : Gorbachev arrives from abroad in 1985, he signed some other nasty things with Reagan, and at a meeting at the airport, with correspondents, he gave out another pearl: “I, he says, came home fertilized (pause) ... with new ideas . "
              Although I was 13 years old then, I immediately thought p.dar!
              As subsequently it turned out: it was a meeting, in my opinion, in Malta where the Nobel laureate passed ALL!
    6. Civil
      Civil 14 November 2015 21: 45
      +1
      I watched the start of Energy on central television ..
  2. NIKNN
    NIKNN 14 November 2015 15: 50
    29
    Magomed Omarovich thank you for your work!
    1. pilot8878
      pilot8878 14 November 2015 16: 34
      +7
      Quote: NIKNN
      Magomed Omarovich thank you for your work!

      And you have many years of happiness, health, success in everything.
    2. yan 2015
      yan 2015 15 November 2015 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: NIKNN
      Magomed Omarovich thank you for your work!


      I fully join you. Such compatriots are the pride of our people.
  3. Nymp
    Nymp 14 November 2015 15: 55
    18
    God forbid, the updated, modernized Buran will still inspire awe and respect for Russian technology!
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 14 November 2015 20: 56
      +1
      "Buran" is not ideal as a weapon system. Lots of flaws.
      Dorog.
      Vulnerable.
      Limited combat readiness (by time spent in orbit).

      In this regard, an air-launched vehicle (starting from a carrier aircraft) is more preferable. He has no tanks, fuel and oxidizer, and therefore, the use of the design is more economical.
  4. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 14 November 2015 15: 55
    14
    Yes ... The times of romance have sunk into oblivion ... Even children now do not dream further than a tablet or iPhone. Namely, a dream and an idea have always moved progress.
    1. aba
      aba 15 November 2015 16: 56
      +1
      Even children now do not dream further than a tablet or iPhone.

      What they imposed on and dream of. They probably forgot how in the 90s, children, almost without exception, dreamed of becoming brothers and sissies?
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 15 November 2015 19: 17
        0
        True, true, even the satire was therefore occasioned in the form of an altered rhyme:
        being a gangster is good
        and sorry * duck is better
        sorry * duck i'll go
        let them teach me ...
  5. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 14 November 2015 15: 57
    +8
    health to you and longevity!
  6. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 14 November 2015 15: 58
    +5
    This is called the syndrome of the older generation, when over the years everyone begins to think that they are the last of the Mohicans, and after them everything will go to dust. It was 50 and 100 years ago, but everything is progressing and no one is irreplaceable in this world.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 14 November 2015 16: 15
      14
      Quote: dchegrinec
      This is called the syndrome of the older generation, when over the years everyone begins to think that they are the last of the Mohicans, and after them everything will go to dust. It was 50 and 100 years ago, but everything is progressing and no one is irreplaceable in this world.

      There are no irreplaceable people and progress does not stand still for sure, but there are effective managers who are ready to ruin any good deed for profit, unless we could defeat fascism with such hucksters, fly Gagarin into space or restore if industry, these managers would study the experience of previous generations, people like Magomed Tolboev and not Dave Carnegie would study How to cover a sucker, and not bad to restore Buran-Energy. A country would have a great profit both in commercial and in militarily.
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 14 November 2015 16: 32
      +2
      I don’t know how people who didn’t create anything worthwhile 50 years ago, now, or in the probable future will call such a syndrome, but these brilliant works, inventions under the Energia-Buran project should not sink into oblivion at the whim of political morons, who, in pursuit of absolute power, ruined the young shoots of innovation and skill. Undoubtedly, Magomed Omarovich Tolboyev, with his story-narration, revealed many nuances that were not customary to talk about before. But, over time, the ideas of reusable spacecraft have not lost their relevance. How much mental and physical strength was needed to survive the destruction of the "brainchild" suffered by some politicians, profane scholars and zealous sycophants-performers. The louder and clearer the words sound today:
      "... our country is neither beggarly nor poor, as the“ opponents ”want to present us. We are a prosperous nation today. I always say“ don’t anger God. ”You will thank Him for living in such an era. What are you whining constantly? Don't whine, but work. "
      hi
    3. theodore rasp
      theodore rasp 14 November 2015 16: 40
      +3
      Quote: dchegrinec
      nobody is irreplaceable in this world.


      Yes, if there is someone to replace, and if the population (people) has disappeared? Replace the mammoths!
    4. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 17: 18
      +4
      No, it's just that nothing greater has been created over the years of "democracy", and it never will be ... if we take into account that "armata" and "hangara" could have appeared 20 years ago under favorable conditions
  7. I am Russian
    I am Russian 14 November 2015 16: 07
    +9
    Sometimes, however, it starts to seem to me that we are the last of the flight dreams of the Mohicans. I personally fly on everything that is held in the air: on a parachute, on a paraglider, on a Boeing. But there are only a few like me. I personally 65 years. I, thank God, saved health, energy. But will someone come after us? These thoughts are alarming. After the collapse of the USSR, we went the wrong way and now painfully, slowly get out of it. However, I will say another thing - our country is not poor and not poor, as the "opponents" want to present us. We are a prosperous nation today. I always say "do not anger God." Thank you for living in such an age. What do you whine all the time? Do not whine, and work.


    Gold words!!!
    Only not a nation, but people(it’s more correct in our culture) !!
    You look at teenagers, what’s interesting to them? Anything, but not science.
    Special thanks for the last words !!
  8. asar
    asar 14 November 2015 16: 15
    +7
    Buran

    A comrade talked about a meeting with the head of the shop where Buran was assembled!
    And now he’s out of work;
    I am ashamed in front of him, even though I have nothing to do with it!
    And our government is not ashamed ?!
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 14 November 2015 16: 22
      +4
      They have no time to be ashamed. It is necessary to attach the 13th floor to the castle
    2. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 17: 14
      +1
      Where they collected, that plant is already gone (
      1. asar
        asar 14 November 2015 18: 19
        +1
        Where they collected, that plant is already gone (

        Почему нет?
        Ust-Katav, other plants of the South Ural "reserve"!
        1. onix757
          onix757 14 November 2015 18: 24
          +2
          Special Forward. The final assembly was carried out at the Tushino machine-building, from which almost nothing is now left
  9. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 14 November 2015 16: 19
    +4
    I’m very glad to talk with Magomed Omarovich! A wonderful story with the hope of future successes, achievements of Our Country! As a child, I was very worried about the closure of the Project, and then too. I was always interested in everything related to Space.
    With great respect.
  10. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 14 November 2015 16: 19
    12
    Buran or not, but a reusable orbital ship is necessary - airplanes do not fly the same type only, there are at least 3 classes of cars.
    The fact that Buran could bring cargo from space is worth a lot.
    And expensive or not - who are interested in the value of Yars, for example, I’m definitely not interested - the main thing is that it is!
    I’m stupid, but in my opinion the Buran and the rocket are like a car with an internal combustion engine and a steam engine, like an electric locomotive and a steam locomotive.
    In other words, it’s a pity that Buran-Energia was closed and did not do anything better on this base.
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 November 2015 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: Anisim1977
      Buran or not, but a reusable orbital ship is necessary -



      And sooner or later, but we will do it.
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 14 November 2015 16: 38
      +4
      Quote: Anisim1977
      It’s a pity that Buran-Energia was closed and did not do anything better at this base.
      Yes, so much time has been lost. How much could be done. "Ams" would now be left far behind and "sniff the dust", figuratively speaking. Humpbacked cattle, brought so much harm, it's scary to think.
  11. Hope1960
    Hope1960 14 November 2015 16: 23
    +5
    It hurts for the long-suffering "Buran" !!! I really want a revival, but at a higher level !!!
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 17: 05
      +6
      Unfortunately this is not possible. Technologies are lost, enterprises participating in cooperation are destroyed. Point. Now it’s not up to Buran, now we need to restore the production of the Tu-160, but there are problems with this, since the situation is the same.
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  14. tatarin_ru
    tatarin_ru 14 November 2015 16: 55
    +5
    Any mega-projects are dragging technological and industrial development in other industries. It always has been.
    Let's hope we are entering an era of "Big Change"
  15. Dyusseldorf
    Dyusseldorf 14 November 2015 17: 09
    +9
    This really was a country of EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES! "I grew up in the mountains, did not know the Russian language, she chaban. I had never been to Makhachkala before!" And, which is typical, the guy ran to be recruited, not to the scum in IS, like some students of Moscow State University ...
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 17: 12
      +1
      Well said
  16. Poplar505
    Poplar505 14 November 2015 17: 11
    +8
    When it comes to Buran, the question arises every time: how is it the only time in the history of 2 spaceports, at a sensitive military facility, with good ground and airborne equipment, for the only working and tested object ready for use for its intended purpose? technologies of its time, the cosmic pride of our country - the roof of the MIK collapses and destroys the flying Buran.
    Tell me, please, is this incident with what degree of probability considered accidental? If not, then the names in the studio, if not scary, of course. The cosmodrome commander, the commander of a part of this site, deputy for the VVO, the representative of Moscow, responsible for this issue, etc. ?????
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 17: 22
      0
      Time will tell and maybe not for us but for our descendants
  17. March
    March 14 November 2015 17: 48
    +2
    in one agree with the article: ruined Buran! It would be nice to restore it to a new, modern level!
  18. a.vasutin2016
    a.vasutin2016 14 November 2015 17: 58
    +2
    The ENERGY-BURAN program was not the last technical achievement of the USSR, but BURAN was created earlier than its time, and as the author writes, it decided the Central Committee of the CPSU and I think it will return or returned to this project, the time has come and MOSCOW is returning to its place on the geopolitical map of the world. Five five-year plans confrontation between the intelligence services of the WEST and EAST And it did not allow the WEST to become the head of the world and push MOSCOW to the outskirts of world politics, in those days science knew no shortage of funds and today no one will throw it, and smart people worked in the Central Committee and they saved the funds for such matters, must wait.....
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 17: 59
      +2
      More specifically .. well, acre besides slogans
  19. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 14 November 2015 18: 19
    +7
    Quote: north
    If only the pages of VO did not stain this phony hero and phony tester of Buran, on which he did not make a single flight, unlike the real "wolf pack".

    - has never been legally certified as a GA Pilot and / or AirLine-PiLot and has not worked a single day as a professional;

    - never participated in any test programs of civil aircraft (except for completely different flights on LL'ah);

    - not a single V.S. I haven’t officially studied foreign production in full and haven’t officially flown anything like that at all ...


    Tolboev claims that he did all this and is certified.
    A person lies on every corner and is a favorite media person among magazine owners in the event of any catastrophe, because he distributes an interior view to the right and left, sometimes not knowing what happened and where.


    What is this run, uv. north? I saw the landing of Buran, and Magomed Tolboev accompanied him on the MIG-25. Did he happen to be there, or on his own initiative? Che for malice and desa rushing.
    1. jPilot
      jPilot 14 November 2015 20: 55
      0
      That identity of the Civil Air Fleet there are many of them, he personally "joked" lol No.
  20. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 14 November 2015 18: 27
    +1
    It is very sad that having destroyed a promising area in astronautics, nothing of equal value has been created in 30 years. Well, do not take the Angara as a breakthrough, which most likely will not overcome the bar of 20 tons.
  21. Bayonet
    Bayonet 14 November 2015 18: 31
    +4
    I agree with everything, only one BUT - "So, the task was being worked out - to remove from orbit and take to Earth the long-term American station" Skylab. " And here is some "information for thought", look carefully at the numbers! smile Skylab Station Launched on May 14, 1973, hosted three Apollo expeditions from May 1973 to February 1974, deorbited and collapsed on July 11, 1979. Length - 24,6 m, maximum diameter - 6,6 m, weight - 77 tons.
    “Buran” completed its first and only space flight in unmanned mode on November 15, 1988. The shuttle launched 29,5 tons into low Earth orbit and could drop loads of up to 14,5 tons from orbit.
  22. Old26
    Old26 14 November 2015 18: 32
    +3
    Quote: Baikonur
    I watched the launch of Energia and Buran in childhood

    Need to understand the ten lived? And where, if not a secret? I watched from the 17th site. And you're right, an indescribable sight

    Quote: north
    “As a test pilot, I participated in the creation of the Buran spacecraft, which terribly scared Americans,” Tolboev proudly boasts to reporters. Without specifying that his role in the "creation" was limited to video filming of the Burana flight from the MiG-25. And then, he did not shoot, but Sergey Zhadovsky sitting next to him.

    Tolboyev was a member of the "Wolf Pack" and was engaged in what was instructed. In particular, landing on the "flying laboratory"

    Quote: north
    Buran’s fake tester, on which he did not make a single flight

    I should note that there were 44 pilots out of 26 people trained under the Buran program. Six of them made flights to analogues. So, all the rest are fake, despite the fact that each worked out his own node, incl. and landing in the automatic mode of the flying laboratory ???

    Quote: north
    Chat with the commander of that squad Igor Volk

    Communicated at work in the 80s. And I know that someone was trusted. What's next? I repeat. Of the trained pilots, only a third managed to pilot an analogue. So what???

    Quote: war and peace
    I have long said that it is necessary to launch nuclear weapons into space in spite of these stupid bans, a rocket will fly 300-500 km from America from space in minutes and America with all the Rothschilds and Rockefellers and no aegis will help ...

    You forget only one thing. In exactly the same way, in minutes, a rocket will fly from space to Russia and the kirdyk of Russia ...

    Quote: north
    M. Tolboev not only NEVER flew these tests, but was never included in the roster = neither the main, nor even the backup crew

    And of the entire set with almost 100% certainty, only the crew of the first manned flight is known. The remaining 42 people will also smear shit?

    Quote: Nymp
    God forbid, the updated, modernized Buran will still inspire awe and respect for Russian technology!

    No and not planned in the coming years. God forbid a new manned ship to create ....

    Quote: Poplar505
    When it comes to Buran, the question arises every time: how is it the only time in the history of 2 spaceports, at a sensitive military facility, with good ground and airborne equipment, for the only working and tested object ready for use for its intended purpose? technologies of its time, the cosmic pride of our country - the roof of the MIK collapses and destroys the flying Buran.

    And where does the airborne and ground equipment? The roof collapsed, alas, when most of the spaceport belonged to the Republic of Kazakhstan. Do not be surprised that the MIC also ...
  23. midshipman
    midshipman 14 November 2015 18: 36
    +8
    Dear onix, asar and others, I am pleased to see your pain for our country. You are right Gorbachev and the drunkard of All Russia destroyed what our fathers and we created. I was subordinate to dozens of enterprises that created systems for this ISS. They employed about 120 thousand specialists. Today many of them are gone, just as the creators of the ship have passed away. For example, VNIIRA, which provided the creation of a control, navigation and approach system, employed 5600 specialists. Currently, 1200 are working. PO "Polet" disappeared, became scanty, 15000 specialists worked on it, they manufactured equipment for the main and two alternate airfields. Only a few people who were involved in the creation of the ISS remained in JSC VNIIRA, I congratulate them, especially Maksimenko M.D. I was not only supervising the creation of systems for the ISS, but in my youth I worked on the creation of onboard equipment, then I was a member of the State Commission for the launch of the ISS. I have the honor.
  24. iouris
    iouris 14 November 2015 18: 40
    +2
    1) This is not about "Buran" and not about M. Tolboyev, but about the fact that only from outer space it is possible to protect the country.
    2) I completely agree and the air war in Syria without space would be conducted differently, less efficiently.
    PS Kutakhov allegedly said: "He who is strong in the air is generally strong!"
    Today we can say this
    "Who left space, he left at all!"
  25. Colonellee
    Colonellee 14 November 2015 18: 44
    +4
    Nails would be made of these people; there wouldn’t be tighter nails in the world of nails ...
  26. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 14 November 2015 19: 16
    +3
    Dear MICHMAN! From the bottom of my heart, I wish you, as well as all the other forum users, and myself, of course, that our country would recover with industry soon!
    My grandmother was one of the leaders of a large NGO. There were tasks close to what you said. She retired in the mid 80s. Then everyone knows what happened. Sometimes I pass by and a small factory leases space.
    I know that people were proud of their work, place of work.
  27. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 14 November 2015 19: 35
    0
    Quote: onix757
    Humpbacked, of course, is hunchbacked, but the Tushino machine-building industry has dropped to the level of an artel already under Putin

    At TMZ, mainly assembly production was. And for assembly everything had to be produced at many enterprises (we read the history of TMZ)
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 November 2015 19: 51
      +3
      If a glider is assembled at any other enterprise out of more than 1250 enterprises involved in the Energy-Buran program, I will be sincerely glad. But this will not happen, because out of 7 thousand defense plants (this is only in the RSFSR), only 1200 remain
  28. PQ-18
    PQ-18 14 November 2015 20: 00
    -1
    I, nevertheless, due to my amateurish naivety, link promising space systems (including reusable ones) with the development of promising HEAVY and SUPER-heavy r \ n such as "Angara" ..
    Under which the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome and the Tseolkovsk science city is very ACTIVE, where it is planned to place "everything necessary for space."
    The honored veteran Tolboeev's announcements "who are after US old people .." I DO NOT SHARE!
    If there is a scientific school and personnel, then the painful process of "generational change" of cosmonauts and test pilots will be SUCCESSFULLY completed on time.
    The SYSTEM is important, and worthy people can ALWAYS PREPARE for a replacement!
  29. Papapg
    Papapg 14 November 2015 20: 12
    +8
    Quote: north
    Tolboev proudly boasts to reporters

    Do you know when Tolboyev met Buran in a lightweight MiG-25 on a collision course and at very high speeds, what maneuver did he use to catch up with him? Personally, it amazed me. And Buran is a collective "fruit", I have nothing to do with it, and Tolboyev, yes, has the right to say so.
  30. Buffalo
    Buffalo 14 November 2015 20: 41
    0
    As for the Discovery dive, over the Kremlin.
    It was not the dive itself that scared him, but the fact that if he had a combat laser on board, he could have hit them.
    And therefore, the combat laser was supposed to be installed on the "Buran". One thing was not taken into account in this - the time the ship was ready for a retaliatory strike. - Preparation of "Buran" for flight is by no means instantaneous, and the cost of the flight is high.
    1. PQ-18
      PQ-18 14 November 2015 21: 00
      +2
      It was not the dive itself that scared him, but the fact that if he had a combat laser on board, he could have hit them

      What power was this "combat laser" aboard the diving American shuttle, WHAT "troubles" could he have done in the Kremlin, what source of energy was there for him on board Discovery?
      I then (naively) suspected that the threat was limited to the POSSIBILITY to carry a solid mass of thermonuclear charges in the "bomb bay" capable of sweeping away Moscow and all command posts, control centers "in one go" (dive) located on a MANEUVERABLE near-Earth space platform (invulnerable to PRO- Air defense)! ...
      And then there is the "striking rays of death" from space capable of burning through a window in the office of the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee!
  31. aak.ua
    aak.ua 14 November 2015 21: 17
    0
    And yet - there is hope that people like Tolboev are not over yet ...
  32. Buffalo
    Buffalo 14 November 2015 21: 25
    0
    At TMZ, the father of D.O. Rogozin, the current deputy prime minister, Oleg Konstantinovich, a former military pilot, worked as a customer representative.
  33. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 14 November 2015 21: 42
    +4
    Quote: PQ-18
    I, nevertheless, due to my amateurish naivety, link promising space systems (including reusable ones) with the development of promising HEAVY and SUPER-heavy r / n such as the Angara "Angara" ..

    Heavy and super heavy Angara! Wow! What do we smoke Mr. Comrade Barin (cross out the necessary)? The Angara missile family has a payload of 1,5 to 35 tons. Where is the heavy here - 70 tons and heavyweight - 100-120 tons? Where are the tables on the East under 35 tons and assembly = assembly buildings. At least 20 tons were made - and then Proton will not be caught up.
  34. family tree
    family tree 14 November 2015 22: 51
    +1
    Very interesting one.
    In the list of test pilots, it is not
    356 Talalakin, Andrei Ivanovich 05.03.1938/17.04.2000/17.08.1984 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX A.N. Tupolev Experimental Design Bureau XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    357 Tarasov, Yuri Alexandrovich 15.02.1939/18.12.1991/XNUMX Research and Flight Testing Center XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    358 Taroshchin, Leonid Ivanovich 07.03.1915/21.11.2003/16.03.1963 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX Scientific and Research Flight Test Center XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    359 Tayursky, Konstantin Dmitrievich 26.08.1922/03.09.2005/10.12.1964 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX State Red Banner Scientific and Testing Institute of the Air Force XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    360 Twelenev, Mikhail Stepanovich 20.07.1920/25.04.1985/14.03.1961 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX State Red Banner Scientific and Testing Institute of the Air Force XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    361 Terentyev, Andrei Grigoryevich 16.08.1911/23.12.1977/07.10.1959 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX State Red Banner Scientific and Testing Institute of the Air Force XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    362 Tersky, Vladimir Ivanovich 21.12.1932/18.08.1977/XNUMX Experimental Design Bureau of O.K. Antonov XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    363 Timofeev, Anatoly Sergeyevich 03.02.1927/02.08.2007/16.08.1974 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX State Red Banner Scientific and Testing Institute of the Air Force XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    364 Timoshchenko, Boris Georgievich 18.11.1932/15.08.1980/XNUMX Lukhovitsky Aviation Plant XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    365 Tishkov, Yuri Mikhailovich 28.09.1948/15.08.1991/XNUMX State Red Banner Scientific Testing Institute of the Air Force XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    366 Tkachenko, Vladimir Andreevich 04.05.1932/26.07.2011/14.08.1981 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX Experimental Design Bureau of O.K. Antonov XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    367 Trofimov, Victor Petrovich 25.04.1916/11.06.1998/1 - 23.09.1961/XNUMX/XNUMX Design Bureau No. XNUMX XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    368 Trusov, Nikolai Pavlovich 08.02.1921/12.02.1982/17.08.1970 - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX State Red Banner Scientific and Testing Institute of the Air Force XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    369 Tyuryumin, Alexander Mikhailovich 18.02.1928/28.08.1974/XNUMX Experimental Design Bureau named after S.V. Ilyushin XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX

    Although, according to Wiki
    In 1977, in connection with the direction of flight test work, he retired to the reserve with the rank of captain. In 1981 he graduated from the Test Pilot School of the USSR Ministry of Aviation Industry and was sent to work as a test pilot at the Flight Testing Institute. M. M. Gromova (LII, Zhukovsky). Since 1984 - test cosmonaut Buran space shuttle [1] [2] [3], deputy commander of the test cosmonaut test detachment LII.

    And in 1989, a test pilot (military) civilian "Order of the Red Banner of Labor" (et, damn it, directors of timber industry enterprises were awarded when the challenge, in socialist competition, for five years, in the same hands, or procurement and sale, due to logistics, times in increase three, permanently what ) TO THE MILITARY TEST PILOT, Shpakovsky order (hussars, be silent!). Maybe I, the northern, stupid Pomors and the forester, will anyone enlighten me, at the expense of all this?
  35. Old26
    Old26 15 November 2015 00: 18
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    Quote: perepilka
    And in 1989, to the test pilot (military) civil "Order of the Red Banner of Labor." TO THE MILITARY TEST FLYER, shpakovsky order (hussars, keep quiet!). Maybe someone will enlighten me, a northern, stupid Pomor and a forester, about all this?

    And what to educate. If in 1977 he retired to the rank of captain, then from that time he is a civilian.

    Quote: Bison
    As for the Discovery dive, over the Kremlin.

    "Was there a boy" ?? That is, was there a dive? How long did he dive there? Did you return to base orbit with the holy spirit? And the second question. And with such an orbit, with such an inclination, at least he flew to the latitude of Moscow ????

    Quote: Bison
    It was not the dive itself that scared him, but the fact that if he had a combat laser on board, he could have hit them.

    And he was among the Americans at that time of such mass dimensions that it fit in the compartment? IMHO and now there is no such thing in the world that from orbit to land on the ground

    Quote: Bison
    And therefore, the combat laser was supposed to be installed on the "Buran".
    As far as I remember, the orbital block with the laser should have been output, but the laser itself .... I did not even hear conversations

    Quote: PQ-18
    with the development of promising HEAVY and SUPER-heavy r \ n such as "Angara" ..

    Forget about them. The dead end branch, and because of Popovkin’s voluntaristic decisions, has been discarded for at least 10 years
    1. family tree
      family tree 15 November 2015 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      And what to educate. If in 1977 he retired to the rank of captain, then from that time he is a civilian.

      Yes, God bless him, Zhirik, there, also civilian, and also reached the colonel. Well, Tolboev even flew what what Although Timur Avtandilovich flew, and Boris Alekseevich, 47 and 49
  36. yan 2015
    yan 2015 15 November 2015 09: 24
    +2
    Quote: north
    north (5) Yesterday, 16:12 ↑
    If only the pages of VO did not stain this phony hero and phony tester of Buran, on which he did not make a single flight, unlike the real "wolf pack".

    - has never been legally certified as a GA Pilot and / or AirLine-PiLot and has not worked a single day as a professional







    why lie something ... dear.
  37. Egevich
    Egevich 15 November 2015 12: 56
    +2
    when there is nothing to say in essence - go to the person (s)
    and my grandfather always used to say: "you have to work harder and do less work."
    1. yan 2015
      yan 2015 15 November 2015 13: 26
      +1
      not words make a man .. but his deeds. something like this.
      so your grandfather knows what he is saying.
  38. Bumpy_johnson
    Bumpy_johnson 15 November 2015 14: 33
    0
    Sensible man! In more of these ... It is a pity the education system believes otherwise ...
  39. Evilblacker
    Evilblacker 15 November 2015 16: 46
    +2
    This system has always been respected.
  40. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 15 November 2015 17: 43
    +1
    Quote: YURMIX
    And I will never believe that the hunchbacked one did not know that his reforms could happen, that he did not say he was not a cook. And I won’t be surprised if during my life it will be known about this freak that these were not mistakes in his rule.

    Well, yes, he was just a combiner with a party card and his education was some kind of agricultural technical school! laughing
  41. Axon
    Axon 15 November 2015 18: 32
    -2
    Buran is, of course, the pride of the country, but for his sake they put her on a hungry ration.
    And then Afghan, low oil, so Gorbachev had no choice.
    Everything was done before him, and of course, we are all smart, now.
  42. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 15 November 2015 21: 28
    +2
    Gone is the "country of Dreamers, the country of Heroes!"
    This is one of the Heroes of that Power.
    A corrupt country of thieves has appeared, which estimates everything with the money of others - everything is in dollars! In this country there is no place for such Heroes. They will remain in their villages without the Russian language and education.
  43. Soldier dusty
    Soldier dusty 16 November 2015 20: 02
    0
    "Don't whine, but work"
    Here are the keywords!
  44. 2ez
    2ez 17 November 2015 09: 47
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    "Since 1987, he was trained under the Buran program, during which he worked out the manual control and automatic landing systems on the Tu-154 laboratory aircraft, equipped with the Buran control system, and the MiG-25, in aerodynamics close to the Buran MTKK . "
    And no one noticed that this "northern" is simply lying without a twinge of conscience! Was Tolboyev a member of the Buran cosmonaut corps? WAS! What was he doing there? Played candy wrappers? Or was he still doing the business that was entrusted to him? And who from Igor Volk's team was instructed to receive the "Buran" on landing? Why not those who were already in the Buran's cockpit? Or maybe simply because Tolboyev was better than others ready for this? And did he have appropriate training? Or did he learn to fly an aircraft on carousels? After all, he did not just fly nearby, but took pictures of the landing in automatic mode. And what of the fact that he was not holding the camera? He is a pilot, his job is to control the plane, and to control it in such a way that it would be convenient for the operator to shoot, because it was not just a movie, but fixing all flight parameters during the landing approach ...
    And "Buran-Energiya" is a pity ... I also watched this SIGHT on TV ... Nice! But we still forget about the fact that "Energy" was created for this project, which no one could repeat! Still, it could carry 100 tons of payload into orbit ... Yes, and An-225 Mriya (unfortunately, already Ruinovskaya) was also created specifically for this project, as a carrier ... MAYBE STILL STOP WHEN THEY FLY AGAIN?
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  46. South Ural
    South Ural 17 November 2015 16: 48
    0
    Quote from text.: "In general, the destruction of this unique space project, like many others, was a logical consequence of the 'bad' historical era, when all past achievements became fashionable to deny, cut into scrap metal and hand over to scrap."

    Here, in my opinion, one of the main thoughts of the author