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Fights are approaching Russia from the south

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Fights are approaching Russia from the south



US Secretary of State John Kerry began his Central Asian tour with a visit to Samarkand, where on November 1 the first five-plus-one meeting took place. An agreement on which was reached in advance, during the 70th session of the UN General Assembly in September in New York, that is, before the Russian military aviation began operations in Syria. Many experts believe that this voyage of the main American diplomat to Central Asia is a response to Moscow’s military assistance to Damascus. I dare to assume that this is not so or not quite so. What the US Secretary of State in Central Asia is doing, far from the borders of his country, I would call systematic work to maintain world domination and strengthen Washington’s political influence.

FIVE PLUS ONE FORMAT


Central Asia (Central Asia) has always been under the watchful eye of the government and intelligence agencies of the United States, but at the present time the importance of this region is of particular importance to them. First of all, it must be borne in mind that the war in Afghanistan is far from complete, but the states are still determined to defend their political interests in the regions north of Afghan territory. By controlling Central Asia, they can, to varying degrees, influence the processes occurring throughout Asia.

In addition, Washington’s global projects “Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership” and “Trans-Pacific Partnership” can be seriously hampered by another international project “New Silk Road”. The US seems intent to intervene here and complicate the implementation of this trans-Asian project. Washington is also very concerned about the active foreign policy of Moscow and, according to the head of the military department Ashton Carter, is taking “new options for action” to contain Russia, including by military methods. And yet, the American administration considers the economic and, accordingly, the military power of China, which, by the way, has a strong influence in Central Asia, a challenge that has significantly increased in recent decades.

What is the newly created organization “five plus one” and what tasks, besides economic, should it solve? The structure of this closed club included five Central Asian countries - Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, the role of moderator, of course, goes to the United States. One of the key issues that was discussed at the Samarkand meeting was the issue of security in connection with the situation in Afghanistan.

It is striking that the two powers, whose interest in security in this region is much more pronounced than that of Washington, namely Russia and China, were not present at this meeting. It is likely that the United States intends to create here some alternative to the organization of a collective security treaty (CSTO), which includes Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. And also, it seems, Washington is going to drive a wedge into the body of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). It can be assumed that the Americans are not so much concerned about the security of this region, as their political and military presence in it.

Over the 13 years of the Afghanistan war, the United States achieved the same result by the end of the 2014 year as the USSR did by the 1986 year. Washington does not control the Afghan territory militarily, although the US military presence remains there. The US military contingent, as well as soldiers of other NATO countries and other coalition member states, whose total number does not exceed 13 thousand bayonets, is aimed mainly at self-defense and support of the allied government in Kabul. Which, despite having its own army, is still held by foreign bayonets. The involvement of the Central Asian countries in the military-political alliance will allow Washington to keep troops in the region, on the territory of non-belligerent countries. First of all, Americans can rely on Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, but with good luck and for more. To fulfill its plan to "contain" Moscow, states, of course, need Kazakhstan bordering on Russia. It is unlikely that they plan to send troops into this Central Asian country, but to create another “Ukraine” near Russia, torn by contradictions, it would be quite suitable for them.


US Secretary of State inspects
sights of Samarkand. Reuters Photos

COMPARING RESULTS OF TWO WARS

As Napoleon said, “money is the blood of war,” and we will begin with it. The average annual war costs in Afghanistan for the USSR in 1979 – 1989 were 6,143 billion dollars, for the USA in 2001 – 2014 approximately 10 times more - 60,1 billion dollars. According to American media, only Washington spent up to 5 million per hour Afghanistan, there is still need to add on the budget of the troops of other members of the coalition. The cost of staying a US soldier in this war per year was more than a million dollars for the American treasury.

Losses among personnel, in equipment, armaments of the USSR Armed Forces are many times greater than those of the Americans. But let's face it. Along with Western countries, Pakistan, Iran, China, the Persian Gulf states and some North African countries supported the Afghan opposition, which fought against the troops of the USSR and the DRA. The West at the beginning of the 1980's managed to organize the isolation of the USSR to some extent. The world community blamed Moscow for the war in Afghanistan and the downed Boeing South Korean airline. Against this background, in fact, a coalition of states fought against the USSR in Afghanistan.

During the nine years of that war, the Union lost about 15 thousand military personnel, 118 aircraft, 333 helicopters, 147 killed tanks, 1314 armored vehicles, 433 units of barreled and rocket artillery, 510 engineering vehicles, 11 369 trucks and tankers.

Dushmans who fought against the Shuravi received over $ 10 billion worth of weapons from their sponsors. During this war, special forces of the United States and Great Britain carried out a number of secret operations against our troops and armed forces. By the end of 1982, the United States had established a supply of explosives and mines, various small-caliber rifles. weapons, grenade launchers, mortars and MANPADS. According to the Pentagon, the Afghan guerrillas received 1000 Stinger MANPADS, of which fewer were used 350 units. A certain amount of Stinger was later bought out by the US Department of State from the local bureaucrats, but more than 400 complexes remained in Afghanistan.

The coalition led by the United States during the invasion of Afghanistan, compared with the Soviets, was simply in greenhouse conditions. In fact, she fought only against the Afghan partisans (mainly against the Taliban), who received weapons from the Afghan National Army (ANA), from China and very limited quantities from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (and some other Gulf countries and North Africa) . But despite this, having spent over 13 years of war more than 715 billion dollars, the coalition came to the same result as the “shuravi” in 1986, that is, the need to curtail this unpromising military campaign as soon as possible. On 1 November 2014, at the time when the operation with the ridiculous name “Enduring Freedom”, and in fact the long war that lasted from 2001 to the end of 2014, was declarative, but not actually completed, the coalition’s losses were 7442 people killed. I do not know on what principle Washington determined the end of this war. In reality, it is not complete, and so far it has no end in sight. But it seems that now the American leadership simply does not want to bring the duration of this war to a tragic mark in 15 years. They don’t like this number in Washington, it reminds of the ingloriously lost 1959 – 1975 war in Vietnam. But no matter how cool, the new coalition operation led by the United States with the pathetic name “Resolute Support” is nothing more than a continuation of the Afghan war launched in 2001, but in a more sluggish mode.

AFGHAN NATIONAL ARMY


As you know, since January 1, 2015, the alliance declaratively does not fight the war in Afghanistan, NATO is only carrying out Operation Decisive Support. That is, with 1 in January, it is believed that Kabul is fighting on its own. Currently, there are 178-thousandth army and police forces at the disposal of the government of Afghanistan, which number up to 150 thousand people, besides there are self-defense detachments in which up to 30 thousand people are involved.

After the withdrawal of the Soviet troops, the regime of Najibullah had a smaller, but better armed army under its gun. The Soviet Union then left at the disposal of Kabul 763 tank, 129 BMP, 1225 BTR and BRDM, 2609 units of receiver and rocket artillery, 226 aircraft and 89 helicopters (including shock and transport), about 13 thousand vehicles.

The modern army of Afghanistan (ANA), in fact, remained without attack jet aircraft. As for combat helicopters, their number has more than doubled compared to 1986 a year. The armament of the ANA was carried out from the arsenals of the NATO countries, the states that were former participants of the Warsaw Pact, the former Soviet republics and now is a very heterogeneous mixture created according to the principle “from the world out ...”, no systematic and planned character, mixed European, American, Chinese , Soviet, Russian samples, the list goes on. Such diversity in armament creates many problems in the provision of ammunition, spare parts, and HMS. In addition, there is a significant reduction in the fleet of armored vehicles, primarily due to the problems of supply, the unsatisfactory repair base and the lack of trained personnel to operate it. The number of barreled, recoilless and rocket artillery units has decreased by approximately five times (compared to the 1986 year). The United States, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Croatia, Turkey, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Albania, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania took part in the supply of weapons and equipment for the ANA. I’ll add one more touch finally: c 2013, Georgian military instructors were involved in training Afghan soldiers.

Despite the efforts made by the coalition, the low fighting capacity of the Afghan troops, poor discipline, general desertion remained at about the same level as it was in 1979 – 1989 years. In addition, there is currently a large shortage of qualified commanders and specialists in the ANA.

Organizationally, the Army of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (IRA) consists of seven brigade corps, whose headquarters are located in major cities: Kabul, Gardez, Kandahar, Herat, Mazari Sharif, Lashkar Gah. In 2011, special commando forces were created, which are currently the most combat-ready part of the ANA. If you believe the published data, their number is about 12 thousand bayonets.

There is another interesting detail - this is the national composition of the ANA. According to the information provided by the experts, the majority of servicemen of the ANA are representatives of the northern peoples of Afghanistan, more than 35% are Tajiks, less than 10% are Uzbeks, a little higher than 10% are Hazaras, about 5% are Turkmen, aimaks and other nationalities. The share of Pashtuns remains no more than 40% of the total personnel, although traditionally the army of Afghanistan was mainly formed from Pashtuns. This is explained by the fact that the modern army was created on the basis of the Northern Alliance units, the backbone of which were the Tajiks and Uzbeks. This detail is very interesting, and we will return to it.

VILAYAT KHORASAN

In one of his interviews, the former governor of Kunduz, Muhammad Umar Safi, said that the IG (the Islamic State terrorist group is banned in Russia) noticeably intensified in the provinces of Kunduz, Takhar, Badakhshan, in the counties bordering Tajikistan, in the province of Baghlan, where they are recruited supporters among Tajiks, as well as in the province of Faryab, which borders with Turkmenistan, with a predominantly Uzbek population. According to General Zaman Vaziri, IS recruiters in particular have succeeded in recruiting young people to their ranks in Kunar province. In Nuristan, the IG found fertile ground for the dissemination of their ideas. The fact is that the Nuristanis were not Muslims for just any 130 years and called them kafirs (“cockroaches” - a swear word for infidels), and only at the end of the XIX century they were converted to Islam by Pashtuns, and this appeal was not bloodless. The Islamists skillfully take advantage of the fact that there are some interethnic contradictions between the Nuristanis and the Pashtuns, the Tadzhiks and the Pashtuns, etc. The IG has the greatest success in regions with a non-Pushtun Sunni population.

The Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Anatoly Antonov, confirmed that the IG has recently significantly intensified in areas near the north-western borders of Afghanistan. In particular, he said: “We are celebrating the growing influence of the Islamic State in Afghanistan, which has already settled in 25 from the 34 provinces of the republic. At the same time, the group is trying to gain a foothold in neighboring Pakistan, on the territory of which we record attempts by emissaries of the “Islamic State” to conduct recruitment work and establish contacts with other terrorist groups. ”

According to the publisher Al Jaseera in the IG battle groups there are a lot of non-Afghans. Combat detachments of the province of Khorasan (a province of the “Islamic state” banned in the Russian Federation) are waging a fierce war with both government forces and other rebel organizations that do not recognize the supreme power of the caliph (al-Baghdadi). Policemen captured by captives, soldiers of the ANA, fighters of self-defense detachments and the Taliban are subjected to cruel executions. The militants of the IG are armed with small arms, and possibly light artillery, I admit that they have grenade launchers and MANPADS. They also have explosives in their arsenal, use partisan tactics characteristic of the Islamists, in which suicide bombers play an important role. According to information leaked to the media, IG enjoys the support of Pakistan, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. And here it is necessary to make a very substantial reservation. For example, in Sinai, the “branch” of the IG is the local militant Islamist organization Ansar Beit al-Magdi, which in fact is only affiliated with the IG, that is, its members swore allegiance to the caliphate. The same thing happens, for example, in Libya, where a number of completely independent Islamist groups, such as Ansar al-Sharia, swore allegiance to the IS and operate under its banner, the same happened in Nigeria, where the local Islamist organization Boko Haram "declared itself part of the IG. In Afghanistan, the "branch" of the IG - the Vilayat Khorasan - of course, did not arise from scratch, representatives of various local Islamist groups joined its ranks, but it was organized purposefully precisely as an IG structure. There are too many foreigners in the current combat squads, Arabs dominate among the leaders. In addition, there is a strong organizational impact on this group from the outside, and the central structure of the Islamic State can hardly provide assistance from Syria (and Iraq) to its Afghan “branch” now.

Oddly enough, the emergence of the IG in Afghanistan was at an opportune moment at a difficult moment for the coalition forces of NATO countries and allies of the alliance. One would like to exclaim: “Yes, this is nothing but the American famous system of checks and balances, projected onto international relations!” For Kubul to be more compliant, there is a horror story for him - the Taliban, for which another horror story is created - the IS. Honestly, this method is as old as the world. In ancient Rome, it sounded like this - Divide et impera (divide and conquer). Using this principle, the British Empire reigned supreme for about 100 years, from the date of the Battle of Waterloo (July 18, 1815) to the beginning of World War I (formally, July 28, 1914, the day of the assassination of the Austrian Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo). Now it is used by the dominant modern empire in the world (I really don’t know which Rome is) - the USA.

There is one more detail that should not escape our attention. The fact is that potential recruits for IG in Central Asia are Sunni Muslims: Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmen, Nuristanis, but by no means Pushtuns. More precisely, there cannot be a massive influx of Pashtuns into this Islamist organization, let's see why. Sunnis in Afghanistan make up roughly 80% of the total population. In this country, as, indeed, almost everywhere in Central Asia, the Hanafi madhhab (religious and legal system) and the theological school Deobandi predominate. In addition, in this region, the Nakshbandi Sufi Order is very influential in spiritual terms. Let me remind you once again that it is in Syria and Iraq, where the Sunnis also adhere to the interpretation of Shana law in Hanafi and where the Naqshbandi Tariqah has a great influence, the Islamic State has emerged. But in the IG, the Salafi ideology predominates, which, in fact, denies all madhhabs (the Sunnites have the greatest influence on four madhhabs) and orders to resolve legal issues and regulate their life and relations among members of the Ummah (Muslim community), as well as all domestic and foreign policy issues Guided only by primary sources, including the Al Quran, Sunnah (Prophet’s life), Haditha and Fatwa (governing orders), issued by the first two righteous caliphs. Salafis, for example, believe that the Kaaba in Mecca must be destroyed as a pagan pre-Islamic religious object. As we can see, the alliance between the adherents of the Salafi ideology, the followers of the Hanafi madhhab and the adherents of the Naqshbandi tariqah is quite possible.

DO NOT REMEMBER THE TALIBAN CALCULATION


Yes, the Pashtuns (overwhelmingly) are Sunni, adhere to the Hanafi madhhab and the views of the Deobandi theological school, some of them are adherents of the Naqshbandi Sufi Order. But they are also very strictly guided by the Pushtunwali (the unwritten law of the life of the Pashtun), much more strictly than the North Caucasian peoples, they adad (local traditions). Perhaps one of the Pashtuns was in the ranks of the IG, but this state will continue until the ideology of the IG comes into conflict with Pashtunvali. Further, the choice for everyone will be obvious, a person will either want to be Pashtun (to do Pashtunvali), or to give up his roots (which is impossible for Pashtun) and become a Salafi. Of course, there are outcasts in any nation, some of the Pashtuns (namely, the Pashtuns are the backbone of the Taliban) can abandon their kind, tribe, people, but these will be few.

October and the beginning of November of this year were marked by the intensification of the military actions of the Taliban. They are fighting in most Afghan provinces against government forces and IS troops. This time, the areas where the Tajik and Uzbek population hostile to the Taliban were subjected to bold attacks. In early October, the Taliban took control of several counties of the province of Kunduz and the city of Kunduz itself (which was then left by them without a fight). Further, in the Dakar district, the Afghan province of Takhar, bordering Tajikistan, the Taliban attacked army positions, roadblocks, police cordons and stations on the night of 27 on October 28, and administrative institutions were attacked. By morning, the county was completely under the control of the rebels. In late October - early November, small battles took place in the provinces of Badakhshan, Uruzgan, Kandahar, Helmand, Paktia and Paktika. In the province of Zabul (where the majority of the population are Pashtuns), local fights have been going on for a week between the Taliban, with military success, and the provinces of Khorasan (IG). Military operations engulfed Arghandab, Khaki-Afghan and Daichopan counties. Here the paramilitary groups of the IG are defeated on all counts.

There were many criticisms of my article “Kabul needs urgent help” (see “NVO” No. 39). The veteran officers of the USSR Armed Forces who fought in Afghanistan indicated that they could not support the Taliban and believe the statements that the goal of the Taliban was only to restore sovereign Afghanistan as an emirate within the borders of the 1989 of the year. I want to emphasize once again - I am not pleading for the support of the Taliban, but only point out that the backbone consists of Pashtuns. Of course, there is no agreement between them, the tribes and clans of this anthropologically non-identical people are constantly at odds with each other, but at some point, if there is a common threat, they are able to consolidate. Do not forget about the law of "blood feud" among Pashtuns. According to Pashtunvali, revenge must be committed, no matter how long it takes (a year or a century does not matter), and this is an honor for Pashtun. Why, tell me, does Russia multiply for itself “bloodlines” when there is no vital need for this? I can say this about rendering possible military assistance to this movement: the weapons transferred to the Taliban can be in anyone’s hands (as the Americans say - only business, nothing personal). In addition, if Russia openly engages with the Taliban, for the West this will be another reason to accuse our country of "supporting terrorists." And this despite the fact that the representative of the US military department, Captain Jeff Davis, told reporters two weeks ago during a briefing about plans of the American command, which provides for operations against Islamist groups affiliated with Al-Qaeda, the IG is also viewed as a possible opponent. but not the Taliban.

Moreover, he stressed that Washington views the Taliban as an important reconciliation partner. True, it is not entirely clear which of the Taliban groups, in whose ranks there is no unity, was meant by the representative of the Pentagon.

GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN


First of all, I want to note that Afghanistan has an observer status in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). There are also a number of signed formal intergovernmental agreements between our countries, including an agreement on cooperation in the fight against illicit trafficking in narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances and their precursors. There are other nongovernmental agreements. Here, perhaps, is all that can be said about official partnership relations between Moscow and Kabul. At the international conference on Afghanistan that went on 8 – 9 in Moscow in October, Army General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, said it was necessary “to assist the leadership of Afghanistan” (see the article “Kabul needs urgent assistance”, “NVO” No. 39). Intention is good, but let us, before drawing conclusions, see what the present government in Kabul is.

The IRA was represented at the Moscow conference by the Vice-President, General Abdul-Rashid Dostum. The name in our country is well known, this military leader at one time fought for the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA), one can say that he sympathizes with Russia. It should be noted that nothing anti-Russian was said from the lips of the current president and prime minister of the IRA. But we must not forget that this government, like the previous one, came to power thanks to the intervention of the military coalition led by the United States. That is, Kabul is entirely under the influence of Washington. It is not difficult to guess which side the current ruling elite of Afghanistan is in in the Russian-American contradictions. I am sure that Kabul does not take a single decision without consulting with Washington, since it depends entirely on him. For example, only for the maintenance of the Afghan security forces is required up to 8 billion dollars annually, which is already several times higher than the budget of the country, add here considerable expenses for the army. It is not only about foreign bayonets that are vital for the protection of the current Afghan leadership; without financial support from the United States, Kabul will not last a week.

In the last election, a large number of the country's population did not participate, this is evident from their results. It is no secret that most of the Afghan Pashtun tribes (and not only Pashtuns) simply do not recognize the power of Kabul. Not long ago, the heads of the Pashtun tribes, a number of Afghan politicians, former ministers, suggested Kabul to assemble a “great tribal council” - the Loya Jirga, as it was done in the distant past, on which to consider the government of Afghanistan, to which there was no answer. Most likely not follow.

It is no secret that the current Afghan leadership does not control most of the country, despite the fact that NATO troops are still present in Afghanistan. Consider the option when these troops leave the country. Naturally, the ruling elite can really rely only on the armed forces loyal to it, the army, the police, special services, the militia. Much has already been said about the fighting qualities of the armed forces of Afghanistan. I don’t undertake to predict how long the current government will hold out without the military presence of the West, but I know for sure that it’s not for long. When the pro-American government falls, what will happen in this case with the armed forces of Afghanistan?

Now it's time to return to the national composition of the ANA. But first I want to remind you that in Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and other countries of the Central Asian five (how do you like this new term? I propose to introduce it into circulation, for accuracy of understanding, I inform you that it includes five former Soviet Central Asian republics, and now five independent states, namely Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan) there are already Islamic illegal organizations affiliated with the IG. And these are the northern neighbors of Afghanistan.

If we talk about the Pashtun part of the army of Afghanistan, then this is 40% of its composition, potential deserters, those who can easily go over to the Taliban side. The rest, most of the armed forces of Afghanistan (Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens, aimaks, who profess Sunni Islam, but unlike the Pashtuns are not guided by the Pashtunvali) may well be in the ranks of the IS fighters. It’s logical that these fighters will easily go to war to the north, beyond the borders of Afghanistan - to their “historical homeland ”(Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, etc.) in order to return its brothers to the bosom of“ true, primordial, Salafi Islam. ”

We return to the question of the possibility of supplying Russian-made weapons to Afghanistan: if this is a business, the possibility of making a profit prevails here; and if we are talking about free deliveries, then ... there is something to think about. Well, say for God's sake, why donate your weapon free of charge into the hands of your potential enemy?

Let me remind you that the ANA is now in a miserable state, to put it mildly, and despite this fact, it (in the event NATO’s final withdrawal from Afghanistan) can pose a significant potential threat to Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan (as, indeed, to other Central Asian countries). ). It is not difficult to assume that the United States can use the current (or deliberately created) situation to deploy its troops, air defense systems, missile defense, as well as launchers of medium-range missiles in these countries. For example, Tashkent or Ashkhabad will be intractable (which is unlikely), then an invasion from the south, the overthrow of secular rulers and the establishment of Islamist power awaits them. And the IG in this regard is a great horror story, this organization is already famous for its bloodthirstiness (this image is intelligently cultivated from the first days of the IG existence, and in this the influence of Western “marketing” culture is noticeable).
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 15 November 2015 19: 31 New
    41
    Anglo-Americans will never lag behind Russia!

    Once again they rub their hands seeing what kind of mess is going on here on our Euro-Asian continents.

    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 15 November 2015 19: 41 New
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      Quote: DEZINTO
      Anglo-Americans will never lag behind Russia!

      And they will definitely push, promote, "cheer up" and "approve" the Taliban, ISIS and other terrorist trash to the borders of Russia. And inside Russia! Their goal is one - Russia! To destroy those who "know too much" the truth about them, about their centuries-old meanness, vileness, atrocities. And seize the greatest natural resources and natural clean vast territory!
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 15 November 2015 19: 46 New
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        Quote: Baikonur
        And they will surely push the Taliban, the igil to the borders of Russia!

        Video in the subject.
        Washed down in response to threats against Russia:
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 15 November 2015 20: 17 New
          11
          Why so? After the arrival of mattresses, the production of drugs increased many times.
          And what is bad for Peace is good for mattresses
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 15 November 2015 20: 49 New
            +5
            hostages said in life again in France belay
            1. sovetskyturist
              sovetskyturist 15 November 2015 21: 39 New
              +1
              US Senator Luke Rudkovsky said that it was Hilary Clinton who created and sponsored ISIS http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=32356 Secretary of State Kerry called a press conference at which he declared the Syrian War and called on the whole American coalition rally around the United States .http: //sherriequestioningall.blogspot.ru/2015/11/us-declaring-war-on-syri
              at
              hrough-paris.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB8TkSHQVa4
            2. Dryuya2
              Dryuya2 15 November 2015 22: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: Dryuya2
              Life News said

              thank god - sort of everything is fine .
        2. 34 region
          34 region 16 November 2015 01: 05 New
          +4
          I was pleased with KAMAZ with a white Amersky star and the inscription US ARMY. They train fighters in the quiet at our sworn partners!
      2. marlin1203
        marlin1203 15 November 2015 19: 52 New
        0
        Is there another way out of this situation, except how to burn out all the nafig with napalm? The former "humanitarian" approach of the USSR in Afghanistan with the training of personnel, education of the population and the construction of economic and industrial facilities did not work either.
        1. Angro Magno
          Angro Magno 15 November 2015 20: 04 New
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          The approach worked. And it worked fine until Judas appeared inside the USSR.
          1. cniza
            cniza 15 November 2015 20: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: Angro Magno
            The approach worked. And it worked fine until Judas appeared inside the USSR.



            Everything in history repeats itself and betrayals do not show anything new.
          2. Sterlya
            Sterlya 15 November 2015 20: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Angro Magno
            The approach worked. And it worked fine until Judas appeared inside the USSR.

            But. The main Judas that appeared were with a dermocratic face. And so. It could all end normally.
          3. sherp2015
            sherp2015 15 November 2015 20: 37 New
            +9
            Quote: Angro Magno
            worked until Judas appeared inside the USSR.


            But they did not disappear anywhere ... They are full in the Kremlin and in all areas in the leadership ...
            1. Sterlya
              Sterlya 15 November 2015 20: 42 New
              +5
              Quote: sherp2015
              But they did not disappear anywhere ... They are full in the Kremlin and in all areas in the leadership ...

              Yeah. Trouble. But how much power is in power however
              1. 34 region
                34 region 16 November 2015 01: 18 New
                +2
                So manure always pops up! laughing
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 15 November 2015 20: 51 New
              +1
              Exactly, you should not indulge in illusions.
            3. Angro Magno
              Angro Magno 16 November 2015 07: 24 New
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              Some have already died from old age. The rest are hiding abroad.
          4. Bayonet
            Bayonet 15 November 2015 20: 50 New
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            Quote: Angro Magno
            The approach worked. And it worked fine until Judas appeared inside the USSR.

            As of January 1, 1999, irretrievable losses in the Afghan war (those killed, those who died from wounds, illnesses and accidents, disappeared) were estimated as follows:
            Soviet Army - 14
            KGB - 576
            Ministry of Internal Affairs - 28
            Total - 15 031 people. Sanitary losses - almost 54 thousand wounded, shell-shocked, injured; 416 thousand sick.
            According to the testimony of Vladimir Sidelnikov, professor of the St. Petersburg Military Medical Academy, the military personnel who died from wounds and diseases in hospitals in the USSR are not taken into account in the final figures.
            In a study of the Afghan war conducted by officers of the General Staff under the leadership of prof. Valentina Runova, estimated 26 thousand dead, including those killed in battle, who died from wounds and diseases, and who died as a result of accidents.
            Economic losses of the USSR
            About 800 million US dollars were annually spent on supporting the Kabul government from the USSR budget.
            About $ 40 billion was spent annually on the maintenance of the 3th Army and the conduct of hostilities from the budget of the USSR.
            Fine? And the same “Judas who appeared in the USSR” ended this senseless slaughter. It is not known how many more children would have returned home under the bar 200 and 300, if not for those "Judas".
            1. Izotovp
              Izotovp 15 November 2015 21: 58 New
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              Is it Dudaev and Shevardnadze, who leaked information on the operational plans of our group to Ahmad Shah Masoud that ended this war?
              Do you seriously believe that our opponents were Afghans?
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              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 16 November 2015 06: 35 New
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                Quote: Izotovp
                These are Dudaev and Shevardnadze, who leaked information to Ahmad Shah Masoud

                Rave comrade!
                Quote: Izotovp
                Do you seriously believe that our opponents were Afghans?

                And you ask those who have been there, they will tell who they fought with.
                1. Izotovp
                  Izotovp 16 November 2015 14: 37 New
                  0
                  http://topwar.ru/39821-afgan.html
                  If it was nonsense !!
                  I talked a lot with those who were there. The Mujahideen were an instrument in the hands of non-Afghans at all.
            2. tank64rus
              tank64rus 15 November 2015 22: 23 New
              +5
              This is only an episode of the war between Russia and the West. And who is against that, Brokeback and so on. Judas, although Judas is unlikely to have agreed to this. The West will wage war to the end. Either we or they are not given a third. All.
            3. tank64rus
              tank64rus 15 November 2015 22: 23 New
              0
              This is only an episode of the war between Russia and the West. And who is against that, Brokeback and so on. Judas, although Judas is unlikely to have agreed to this. The West will wage war to the end. Either we or they are not given a third. All.
            4. Nick
              Nick 15 November 2015 22: 44 New
              +5
              Quote: Bayonet
              And those "Judas who appeared in the USSR" ended this senseless slaughter. It is not known how many more children would have returned home under the bar 200 and 300, if not for those "Judas".

              Judas not only ended the war and was allowed in by the United States, they also killed the USSR. How much did the Russian and other peoples of the former USSR lose in internecine wars, how many died from starvation and western poison? Millions of lives have been lost by the peoples of the former USSR! This is simply not comparable with the losses of the USSR in Afghanistan. Less to you.
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            6. Bayonet
              Bayonet 16 November 2015 21: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Bayonet
              It is not known how many more children would have returned home under the bar 200 and 300, if not for those "Judas".
              Yes, thirty minuses from people who were not in Afghanistan did not bury the relatives of those who died in that war ... Like bugs stink and bite, stink and bite ... Well, God be your judge ...
          5. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 16 November 2015 00: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Angro Magno
            The approach worked. And it worked fine until it appeared ...

            belay
            Russia is planning a "hybrid war" campaign aimed at destabilizing Europe, said Bulgarian President
            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-plans-a-hybrid-warfare-cam
            paign-aimed-at-destabalizing-europe-says-bulgarian-president-a6734981.html
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 15 November 2015 20: 50 New
          0
          THE USSR! Be correct
        3. 34 region
          34 region 16 November 2015 01: 16 New
          +3
          Why didn't it work? We helped, built. Even the Afghan astronaut was launched into space. What did the Americans do? They stupidly removed the country as a possible competitor. Nobody has conquered the Afghans! Why conquer them? Afghans are warriors and they cannot be defeated! What is the concept of people to conquer? Plant your flag? To conquer this is to prevent the country's production and science from developing. In this regard, Afghan lies on both shoulder blades. Neither production nor science. Do they fight among themselves? Yes, the Americans still throw dough so that they kill each other even more. That USSR won in 45. He had science, production. Afghan has a fig. We also failed in the 90s.
        4. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 16 November 2015 12: 30 New
          +2
          USSR is written with a capital letter! This is the period in our history when Mother Russia was called the USSR. Do not be like ghouls from Ukraine!
      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain 15 November 2015 20: 11 New
        31
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Anglo-Americans will never lag behind Russia!

        How many years this blatant Saxon aggression lasts, centuries and black-footed monkey horseradish to break us.
        1. cniza
          cniza 15 November 2015 20: 34 New
          +5
          Here it is only with the globes and fight.
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      4. 79807420129
        79807420129 15 November 2015 20: 45 New
        19
        Mattress makers want to hit Russia from the south, let alone preserve the heroin factory in Afghanistan, now I understand one more purpose of our operation in Syria, if Syria falls, Iran will be the next target, if Iran falls, mattresses create a belt of chaos from Syria to Pakistan, Central Asia does not withstand this pressure and the Yankees having penetrated there, first with the help of cookies, and then creating puppets in the likeness of Ukraine, they surround us with military bases at the same time robbing all of Central Asia and blocking China's path to Europe, but now it seems that Syria is behind, We need to strengthen Tajik-Afghan border, and China has long been time to stop abstaining at the UN, but this is only my opinion.
        1. Dimy4
          Dimy4 15 November 2015 21: 00 New
          10
          China is waiting in the wings when we and the United States run out of wood to play the first violin on the planet. My opinion.
      5. Nick
        Nick 15 November 2015 22: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Baikonur
        And they will definitely push, promote, "cheer up" and "approve" the Taliban, ISIS and other terrorist trash to the borders of Russia. And inside Russia! Their goal is one - Russia!

        Therefore, all this trash should be disposed of and sewer in the Middle East! Glory to Assad!
    2. Dreiko11
      Dreiko11 16 November 2015 02: 31 New
      +1
      Americans, through their spyware programs, are blackmailing the whole world ...
  2. Balagan
    Balagan 15 November 2015 19: 36 New
    +7
    Weapon test in the first photo! smile
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 15 November 2015 21: 18 New
      +4
      The Queen of England personally met the President of Kazakhstan (even the British were offended by the violation of etiquette), and they signed contracts for a not feeble amount abruptly (I am sure they will be deceived in the end). The point is that the Yankees are not working alone, but along with the EU mongrels. When we already develop tectonic weapons, what would be something to do with these freaks. am
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 15 November 2015 21: 23 New
        +1
        Yes, the Queen of England is not casual .... it's not some kind of freak (sashabaronkoen)
        1. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 15 November 2015 22: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: samarin1969
          Yes, the Queen of England is not casual ...
          Tutov is what they write recourse :
          As part of the comprehensive development program “100 concrete steps to implement 5 institutional reforms” in Astana, it is planned to create a financial center of global and regional scale. One of the most understandable and successful world analogues is the financial center in Dubai, which has been successfully operating since 2004 of the year.
          ..
          But what is the financial center of Dubai? Why is it even needed? The answer lies on the surface. The functioning of the international financial center is impossible without appropriate judicial support. Moreover, not just court and arbitration, but the one to which the international investor is accustomed, that is, with the familiar rules of the game, for which thousands of professional legal teams are prepared. After all, a lot of money requires detailed legal support.
          The idea of ​​creating an International Arbitration Center (AIFC) in Astana using the best international standards for resolving investment disputes, with the involvement of reputable foreign experts in the field of commercial law, was accepted with enthusiasm by a number of large business entities that are participants in international arbitration proceedings.
          It is planned that the financial court of Astana will work foreign judges. Following the example of DIFC in the international financial center "Astana" will be applied anglo-saxon law. Office language will be English. A detailed bill on the financial court is being developed taking into account the experience of the Dubai model. The uniqueness of this experience lies in the fact that all DIFC structures were focused on creating the most comfortable investment climate. If you follow the experience of the UAE and Singapore, in Kazakhstan for foreign investors you need to create conditions much better than at home. The AIFC Financial Court will provide for the possibility of judicial precedent.
          Kazakhstan now has a unique opportunity to occupy its own niche. Judge for yourself, in the territory of the Eurasian Union there is no such court. And integration is in full swing and many external players are showing interest in it. It is clear that such a court cannot appear in Russia, due to geopolitical reasons. But Russian companies are already interested in such a court.
          http://yvision.kz/post/565431
          1. 34 region
            34 region 16 November 2015 01: 29 New
            +1
            As I understand it, this is such an economic plan for Barbarossa. Fast financial and legal strikes to defeat the enemy. Clever what to say!
  3. veksha50
    veksha50 15 November 2015 19: 37 New
    12
    "The US intends to create here some alternative to the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), which includes Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. And it also looks like Washington is going to drive a wedge into the body of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)" ...

    Mdaaaa ... It smells bad ...

    Kazakhstan ... Tajikistan ... And so our border guard there, drop everything and leave - a lot of slop in the form of drugs and dushmans floods ...

    Damn, what is it, Russia is not allowed to live in peace ???

    Well, at least someone will say against it, however, the ringleader needs to be beaten - the states ... Until they get on the head - peace is not like Russia, but there will be no peace in the world ...
    1. Rader
      Rader 15 November 2015 20: 10 New
      13
      Damn, what is it, Russia is not allowed to live in peace ???

      And when was the last time you were allowed to "live in peace"? wink
      Well, at least someone will say against it, however, the ringleader needs to be beaten - the states ... Until they get on the head - peace is not like Russia, but there will be no peace in the world ...

      But in the 90s, and in the zero years, they believed that cordial friendship is possible with the West and the rest of the USA ... Well, who else doubts that we must act on the principle: if the door is closed in the heart, do you need to knock on the liver?
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 15 November 2015 20: 30 New
        12
        Quote: veksha50
        Washington is going to drive a wedge into the body of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)

        Traditional corruption and clannishness of the power system of these countries is very strongly influenced here. Washington is actively using this and already now has a sufficient number of agents of influence in all the power structures of these five countries. But the most terrible thing is the successful struggle of foreign NGOs like Soros, for the minds of young people. For example, in Almaty, the Military Institute of Foreign Languages ​​is half funded by the US and NATO. In Astana, at civilian universities, almost all students undergo training in the West. A whole state program "Bolashak" has been created. As a result, for the majority of "educated" youth, American and European "values" are closer than national ones, and Russia and China are presented as the main enemy.
        In addition, most Asian politicians are very ambitious and flattered that such huge neighboring countries as China and Russia respect their sovereignty and do not interfere in internal affairs. Therefore, John Kerry and other NATO supporters successfully exploit this situation by driving a political wedge where, in principle, it should not be. And if the trend does not change, then the Asian region will soon become a serious problem for Russia and China.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 16 November 2015 01: 38 New
          +4
          Well, what else to expect from Danians bringing free cheese?
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 15 November 2015 20: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: Rader
        And when was the last time you were allowed to "live in peace"? wink

        Never. And it will never be until everyone transfers like bugs. Or something different...
        1. Rader
          Rader 15 November 2015 20: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Sterlya
          Quote: Rader
          And when was the last time you were allowed to "live in peace"? wink

          Never. And never will be until all transmit as bugs. Or something different...

          Why is it so cruel? I am sure that you can just talk to them, explain our position, and everyone will certainly come to a consensus => we will all live in a World without violence and wars ...
          P.S. ** I myself did not believe in *** what I wrote! laughing drinks
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 November 2015 21: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: veksha50
      Damn, what is it, Russia is not allowed to live in peace ???
      Their goal is to destroy their rivals in order to remain the "king of the mountain".
      There are several reasons.
      1-I, natural wealth, minerals in our Siberian pantry;
      2-I, the fear of the growing military force of Russia, capable of destroying the States in the reciprocal (reciprocal) counter-nuclear weapon;
      3-I, the desire to destroy the coalitions formed with the participation of the Russian Federation and China as a real threat to the hegemony of the Yankees;
      4-I, the desire to undermine the economies of rivals, their financial system,
      5-I, destroy the influential political pole, one of the centers of power and influence;
      6th, the implementation of geopolitical plans under the general signboard "Ring of anaconda", for the conquest of world domination
      and so.
      Possible options ...
      1. 34 region
        34 region 16 November 2015 01: 40 New
        0
        Options? Are possible. To hurt them! The question is how?
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 November 2015 21: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: veksha50
      Mdaaaa ... It smells bad ... Kazakhstan ... Tajikistan ...
      For some reason, out of the entire former union brotherhood, I am the warmest in all of Kazakhstan, its wise and seasoned President, a true friend of Russia.
      Apparently, after Ukraine, Kazakhstan is next in line. Friends and allies are not betrayed, you probably have to get involved in an adult way ...
      This is where the strength of the allied bonds will be checked.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 16 November 2015 05: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        For some reason, out of the entire former union brotherhood, I am the warmest in all of Kazakhstan, its wise and seasoned President, a true friend of Russia.

        Lobobludia with the other hand, as well as fawning over the strong and rudeness to the weak, is not a manifestation of sincere friendship.
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Friends and allies are not betrayed, you probably have to get involved in an adult way ...

        Yes, someone besides Ivan will grab the coals from the fire.
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Apparently, after Ukraine, Kazakhstan is next in line.

        Not yet. Bashkarma is obedient, kicks off, but only a little bit. But the Kyrgyz did not become obedient, between internal fights, the Americans left, then they reduced the status of interstate relations with them.
  4. moskowit
    moskowit 15 November 2015 19: 38 New
    +9
    IS is a real danger to Central Asia. Due to their weakness, these states alone will not be able to resist expansion from the south. To unite them in a strong alliance do not give many reasons. Economic, ethnic, clan power and others.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 15 November 2015 20: 11 New
      +6
      The real danger is to err in reality.
      IG will not come from the south. IG comes from within. It would be from the south, we could have done it alone.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 16 November 2015 01: 46 New
      0
      But the Union was able to unite them!
  5. Baloo
    Baloo 15 November 2015 19: 38 New
    14
    Central Asian leaders should remember the fate of Gaddafi and Libya, Saddam Hussein and Iraq. Everyone can continue the list. First, cookies and the patronage of the drug mafia, to embroil everyone with Russia and China, to prepare the pro-American "elite" and here it is another coup with the participation of another "moderate opposition" in the name of "brotherhood, equality, freedom, human values." We know they swam ... am .
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 15 November 2015 20: 14 New
      +2
      Well, Akayev (the author of a multi-vector approach in the CIS) and Bakiev (a direct protege of the United States and Soros's best friend) have been sitting in Moscow and Minsk for a long time. Of course in the Kyrgyz Republic we "believe" in geopolitical confrontation. We know they swam.
    2. Rader
      Rader 15 November 2015 20: 26 New
      +6
      In order to understand how effective the US "assistance" to Kabul is, it is enough to know the balance of power before and after the start of "indestructible freedom". The Northern Alliance, before the arrival of the "light elves", controlled about half of the country's territory. Now government troops control Kabul, and of several other large cities. In any, more or less remote area, equip "expeditions like to Mars". And they don't go to hard-to-reach areas unnecessarily, because they know: "there are miracles, there ISIS / Alqaeda / Mujahideen roam"
      1. 34 region
        34 region 16 November 2015 02: 00 New
        +1
        Control, not control. What is there to guess on a camomile. Afghanistan is knocked out of the cage. And the states here are very effective. All potential competitors will be (or already) thrown back into the Stone Age. Does Afghanistan produce computers, cars, phones? All products are not made in Afghanistan. And this is the main point.
    3. flay
      flay 15 November 2015 21: 27 New
      +3
      The panopticon is that all the "great leaders of small states" really want to be "weighty" on the world stage. It doesn't matter what is on the same scale with the United States. They are weighty. Here everything is according to Freud fellow and according to Krylov am
      And what with them, and their regimes will happen in the case of obstinacy, they know. angry
      Choose the path "product number 2 repeat "though there is a chance to stay still, just to stay in power!
    4. 34 region
      34 region 16 November 2015 01: 52 New
      0
      I'm afraid glasses with bucks can overshadow all the lessons of fallen leaders. And even foreign accounts did not save them. And the most erogenous zone is the ears. Scratched on the ears and all! Scribe! And he looks so white and fluffy! winked
  6. marinier
    marinier 15 November 2015 19: 43 New
    23
    Good time of the day, Dear!
    Thank you very much to the author!
    I learned a lot of new length sebia.
    Especially 4ut did not choke coffee when 4ital about Georgian instructors,
    length of the Afghan army.
    With respect!
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 15 November 2015 20: 28 New
      15
      Anthony, Georgian instructors - they are for teaching long-distance running, this is the profile use of these "eagles"! Until now, their record for running, from Tskhinval to Tbilisi, has not been broken by any army in the world!laughing
      1. marinier
        marinier 15 November 2015 22: 42 New
        +3
        Good time of the day, Dear!
        Ornate, but it came.
        How would this skill the Georgians not instilled in the Afghans ?!
      2. 34 region
        34 region 16 November 2015 02: 01 New
        0
        And what? Valuable experience! laughing
    2. KBR109
      KBR109 15 November 2015 20: 29 New
      12
      Thank you for your persistence in learning the language. Pay attention to the letters and corresponding sounds - F - and - I -. With respect to your work ... good
      1. marinier
        marinier 15 November 2015 22: 46 New
        +1
        Hello dear!
        Thank you for your greetings! There is no substitution for replacing (if
        semi4itsia).
        I ask in your Person all respected well-wishers.
        Do not judge strictly.
    3. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 15 November 2015 21: 02 New
      +9
      Those Georgians are still "heroes" ... lol
      1. marinier
        marinier 15 November 2015 22: 49 New
        +2
        You are right Dear!
        But he noticed, the NATO equipment.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 16 November 2015 02: 06 New
          +3
          Whose was it supposed to be? Who is the sponsor?
      2. 34 region
        34 region 16 November 2015 02: 05 New
        +1
        Laughter, laughter, but did they have to die for someone? According to the results of 08.08.08. a lesson was learned. And ISIS began to swell.
  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 November 2015 20: 04 New
    +7
    The author expresses very clearly (which is rare) ... I would like to hope that the guarantees of China and Russia in the security of the "five" will be more significant than the "sweet voice" of John Sarumanovich Kerry ...
    Otherwise, you will have to build the "Stalin line" near Orenburg ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 16 November 2015 02: 10 New
      0
      Interesting! This five where stores the acquired overwork? If not in Russia or China, then there are no guarantees.
  8. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 15 November 2015 20: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: moskowit
    IS is a real danger to Central Asia. Due to their weakness, these states alone will not be able to resist expansion from the south. To unite them in a strong alliance do not give many reasons. Economic, ethnic, clan power and others.

    There is probably a desire to sit on 2 chairs. They think that both Russia and America will support them at the same time.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 16 November 2015 02: 12 New
      0
      And when and whom did America support? Without sarcasm. Purely for fun. If suicides, then supported (kill faster!).
  9. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 15 November 2015 20: 10 New
    +2
    The author's point of view is interesting. As for the analysis of the state of the Afghan army, I think it is competent and objective. But in the matter of finding allies or at least some kind of "foothold" in Afghanistan, we will have to look for anything, because otherwise we will lose influence in this serious region. I agree with the author about the plans for the supply of weapons, the situation here is really unpredictable, but that means we need to look for other levers of influence, or rather cooperation with the Taliban, based at least on the old principle “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. hi
    1. flay
      flay 15 November 2015 21: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      An interesting point of view of the author .....;, proceeding at least from the old principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." hi

      It turns out funny, considering that the Americans are still kind of howling with the Taliban. It is emerging that now we, Russia will supply the Taliban with weapons to combat the minke whales. So to say, the response for the period 1979-1989.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 15 November 2015 22: 10 New
        +2
        The East is a delicate matter ... there are regular reports that the Taliban are fighting with the Ishilovites ... why not help (indirectly) these Makhnovists!
        1. 34 region
          34 region 16 November 2015 02: 18 New
          0
          Is it easier to block ISIS financing channels? Just one ice ax.
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 November 2015 22: 10 New
        0
        Quote: flay
        It turns out funny, considering that the Americans are still kind of howling with the Taliban. It is emerging that now we, Russia will supply the Taliban with weapons to combat the minke whales. So to say, the response for the period 1979-1989.

        With a weapon just, Dear flay, maybe you should not rush, although with the insufficient level of information that we have, it is certainly difficult to judge. But the fact that the situation in Afghanistan, to some extent may develop in your understanding, is quite likely.
        Somehow I think so, colleague. hi
    2. 34 region
      34 region 16 November 2015 02: 16 New
      +1
      And what about the army? There are no productions. There is no work. Where to go? Only in the army. I want to live. You can still grow poppy. The choice is small.
  10. prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 15 November 2015 20: 10 New
    0
    Kindness, the offer of friendship and cooperation, economic and any other help does not help us with our neighbors, as well as with our so-called partners. It’s time to move to pacification or taming!
  11. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 15 November 2015 20: 20 New
    +2
    What a trump card in the photo at the beginning of the article! These can be quickly supplied to all without exception (would be plywood!)
  12. Humpty
    Humpty 15 November 2015 20: 22 New
    +5
    Quote: KG_patriot_last
    The real danger is to err in reality.
    IG will not come from the south. IG comes from within. It would be from the south, we could have done it alone.

    Briefly and accurately. We cannot count the number of mosques. The last of the destroyed terrorists came to us from the north, from the most prosperous of the "magnificent five".
    Something tells us that the Taliban is not the main threat to the SA.
  13. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 15 November 2015 20: 51 New
    +3
    The Taliban may not be the best neighbor, but he had one, namely, he struggled with poppy crops and drug production. Now, drugs with the tacit blessing of the NATO troops have invaded Russia. Perhaps this was the main goal of the introduction of NATO troops in Afghanistan.
  14. Dimy4
    Dimy4 15 November 2015 21: 02 New
    +4
    The United States, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Croatia, Turkey, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Albania, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania took part in the supply of arms and equipment to ANA.

    It’s enough to mention only the United States, all the rest are just mongrels, they don’t have their own opinion, and they only vote on the host’s command.
  15. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 15 November 2015 21: 12 New
    +7
    No, I did not understand the author.
    The Sunnis, in his interpretation, hold diametrically opposed views.
    About Shiites there is no talk at all, but oh well.
    The Pashtuns, like the light in the window, were hurt by the guys, but they pumped up with anthropological integrity - here I finally fell into the sediment - what, are there four-eyed and six-armed Pashtuns? Or like those from Marco Polo walking on one leg and closing this fins from the sun?
    Either the translation ... or the author ... well, I’ve penetrated deeply ... into Asian trends.
    .
    Nonsense. A lot of letters, but little meaning.
    Started for health, ended for peace.
    And where does the Soviet Union, kill me six-armed Pashtun, did not understand at all.
    ....
    The invaders came and built hospitals, schools, train stations and power plants, houses and wells.
    Then the liberators came and allowed to sow the IAC.
  16. stas11830
    stas11830 15 November 2015 21: 17 New
    +3
    The US influence in Asia, and especially in Kazakhstan, should not be allowed to increase. They will inflame a national conflict on a larger scale there than in Ukraine. And there, ISIS and the Taliban will catch up.
  17. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 15 November 2015 21: 30 New
    +1
    Thanks to the author for a serious and detailed analysis of the situation in SA. Generally speaking, the biggest threat to the world is in the states themselves, namely, the huge US national debt. This is a time bomb for the whole world, or if you want a volcano that is constantly smoking and ready The BRICS countries began to create mechanisms for "demining", but now there are so few sane people left in the world, thanks to the "independent" media, that one can only hope for a miracle of an instant redistribution of forces request .
    1. Bashibuzuk
      Bashibuzuk 15 November 2015 21: 42 New
      +1
      Comrade Gladysheff2010 ...
      "..Thanks to the author for a serious and detailed analysis of the situation in CA ...."
      You yourself understood what is the difference between Naqshbandi and 4 madhhabs? as well as between Shiites and Sunnis?
      You yourself clearly see the difference in the mass pilgrimage to the Kaaaba and calls to blow it up ... nafik.
      And in Syria, the President-elect is generally averit.
      What is this?
      ....
      Urya, Urya ... we are all asil.
      1. dali
        dali 15 November 2015 22: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Bashibuzuk
        You yourself understood what is the difference between Naqshbandi and 4 madhhabs? as well as between Shiites and Sunnis?
        Duck write what's the difference ?! And, accordingly, who is who, that is, "Naqshbendis and 4 madhhabs"?
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 15 November 2015 22: 20 New
          +1
          I'll write ...
          And do you find out everything yourself?
          .
          4- madhhab is .... no, it is not so necessary to begin.
          There are two essential branches of Islam.
          One branch believes that there was only one doctrine, which was given to them by the recordings of the speeches of Muhammad (Muhammad) - and it was recorded by his wives and followers - Ali, Fatima .. etc. So this is Shiism. Not very developed. By purely female troubles.
          And there is another branch that believes that there were FOUR followers of Muhammad - this is Sunnism.
          These are the four "Righteous Caliphs" who brought the truth to the WORLD.
          .
          Count for yourself how many followers could develop, from four who know better.
          .
          Wahhabism and Suffism completely reject it all.
          They are based on only one book - the Quran.
          But they interpret it in their own way.
          Each abnormal in the village has its own IMAM.
          If there is money, then the field commander.
          ....
          Is there a difference or not?
          With centralized power like the Alawites?
          ....
          .
          .
          And when you feel the ISLAM ... note that in Christianity only FOUR gospels are used.
          Recognized as reliable.
          Everything else is crypto ...
          1. dali
            dali 15 November 2015 23: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            I'll write ...
            And do you find out everything yourself?
            Why so much ambition ?! belay
            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            These are the four "Righteous Caliphs" who brought the truth to the WORLD.
            What is the truth that was carried into the world ?! belay
            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            Count for yourself how many followers could develop, from four who know better.

            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            Wahhabism and Suffism completely reject it all.
            They are based on only one book - the Quran.
            But they interpret it in their own way.

            and ...?! -
            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            And when you feel Islam ...

            What to feel ... what a complete tear in the understanding of Islam ?! Clearly and so !!!
            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            note that in Christianity only the FOUR Gospels are used.
            Recognized as reliable.
            Again, what four ... and do not send to
            Quote: Bashibuzuk
            And do you find out everything yourself?
            I didn’t raise this topic ... so take the trouble to explain your point of view !!!
          2. dvg79
            dvg79 16 November 2015 04: 01 New
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            You count how many only official Christian churches in the world, and they had 4 gospels.
          3. dvg79
            dvg79 16 November 2015 04: 06 New
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            You count how many only official Christian churches in the world, and they had 4 gospels.
  18. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 15 November 2015 21: 40 New
    +1
    Wherever you spit, you will fall into the enemy, and friends are such ambiguous, mow
    with a sly look to the side. Well, where to go to the Russian man, where to find
    loyal friends and allies? The Army and Navy alone will not be enough, new friends
    need to grow and attract to your side. And we, in pursuit of profits, started this process, we lost all old friends. In the same Afghanistan
    how many abandoned, pro-Russian-minded people who studied in our country? All about ... whether.
  19. de_monSher
    de_monSher 15 November 2015 21: 42 New
    +8
    I am still surprised by the "analytics", Central Asian, from the side of the Russian inhabitants (it is worth noting that only the inhabitants, the state structures of Russia practically do not participate in this). I myself have been absent from Uzbekistan for a full 6 years (I mostly stuck out in Ukraine, before their "revolution" and Belarus, dealing with issues concerning the consequences of the Chernobyl accident). When I was there, I read the saying of "pale-faced brothers and sisters," and was horrified - I thought it was not so bad. Came, podofigel, slightly. You are lying, gentlemen, gentlemen, and gentlemen, comrades. Rather, you are just too lazy sometimes to tear your ass off the couch, come and see for yourself. So you're making it up. You invent everything - inside and out.

    First, I will say for Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan - the army and power structures. I will NOT say that they are in excellent, but in GOOD condition, combat-ready and drilled. At the same time, it is possible not to talk about Kazakhstan, but also Uzbekistan perceives Russia as an ally and friend. No options. Not China, not the United States, but Russia. At the same time, when in the context of Uzbekistan, all kinds of "analysts" remember about a small army, for some reason they forget about the troops of the explosives. In general, under arms, according to my most conservative estimates, now in Uzbekistan has no less than half a million army (together with the troops of the VV and units and units of the SNB).

    Special services work for 5 plus. Unlike Russia, even where for some reason you "babysit" with all sorts of rags, think about their "rights", etc. they don't stand on ceremony here. With all this, the politeness and courtesy of the guys from the SNB (the Uzbek analogue of your FSB) is at an excellent level - vigilance + politeness, a very good combination.

    At all metro stations, tables and selective checking of large bags - everything is extremely polite and neat, and everyone understands what is needed - time is right. Everywhere, in the subway and in the city, there are social posters calling for vigilance.

    6 years while I was there, all of you, friends, comrades, and friends, gentlemen, were crying - de "they press the Russian language ... especially in Uzbekistan ... wai-wai, eh!". Woo ... shas. As was the Russian language, the language of the state structures of Uzbekistan, as well as a very well-spoken language of communication, it has remained so. Moreover, both among the people of the older generation and among young people (and gasterbayters have nothing to do with it, as a rule, they just do not know Russian - they come mainly from the provinces). All office work is practically in Russian. And no one is going to change ANYTHING, the most interesting thing is.

    At first I wanted to write a huge article on this subject, but still my hands never reach - work in bulk.

    Yes, damn it, that drove me despondent - so there is no fight against smoking, and the absence, almost complete, of urns in the city ... * ((I myself am a smoker with experience. And when you smoke a cigarette on the street (of course it’s bad that this can be done on the street), and then half an hour looking for the ballot box to throw a cigarette, it’s kind of sad. It’s clear that the ballot boxes were removed after the explosions in Moscow the same. But anyway - it's terrible ... * (

    Look something like this ...
    1. Izotovp
      Izotovp 15 November 2015 22: 04 New
      +2
      Thank you for responding and illuminating the situation from the inside.
      1. de_monSher
        de_monSher 15 November 2015 22: 20 New
        +4
        Thank you for responding and illuminating the situation from the inside.


        Yes, always please ... I’ll roll the article, by the way. There are so many interesting points - and it becomes apparent when you do not see your homeland for a long time. And so, really - you read in Russia about what is happening in Uzbekistan and your hair stands on end. It got to the point that I myself began to believe that in Uzbekistan there are only a few state-owned channels, and there is practically no Internet (in all seriousness, damn it! You have a very powerful propaganda machine ... or rather, I’m lying, your propaganda machine started working in unison with the same machines in the USA and Europe).

        There are two problems in Uzbekistan - staff shortage (mainly engineering and high-tech) and, damn it, "monetary hyperinflation." I put the latter in quotes, because this practically does not affect real life (only huge packs of money in my pocket, which is not good). I don't know what the authorities are up to, but most likely they just want to get rid of the cash (shas, ​​almost everywhere, even at the bazaars introduced cashless payments, and terminals), and IMMEDIATELY reform the money.

        And about freedom of information. In each house, thank God, 50-70 channels (Russian channels prevail, of course). Own, localized, production of consumer electronics - from toasters to televisions, are not very expensive products, but rather high quality. The production of computers is also localized. I’m just silent about cars - everywhere, some Uzbek Chevrolet - from little ones, I forgot the name of the Matizov receivers, to Captiv, etc.

        Not everything is generally bad, in the "kingdom of Uzbekistan" ... *)

        And, most importantly, the Taliban-Maliban and IG-GG will not pass through us all, that’s for sure. It is necessary to strengthen Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan.
        1. deduly1957
          deduly1957 16 November 2015 03: 42 New
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          Excuse me dear, but I have lived in Tashkent for 40 years, in principle, I have not seen a bad attitude towards Russians, and now there are many friends there, but! Skype has not been working for 3 months now and no one knows what they have to communicate through "OK", I suspect with my small mind that it is easier to control people on social networks.
    2. dali
      dali 15 November 2015 22: 13 New
      +2
      Immediately pay attention to the fact that towards the Uzbeks and the Kazakhs there is a completely normal attitude - only one thing, tell me why the Russians were leaving you in large numbers at one time, what if it was so good to leave. What kind of transformation is it now:
      Quote: de_monSher
      What does it have to do with both older people and young people (and migrant workers have nothing to do with it, as a rule, they don’t know the Russian language - they come mainly from the hinterland). Paperwork is all practical, in Russian. And no one is going to change ANYTHING, the most interesting thing is.


      Well and accordingly, why aren’t you raising energy in your homeland ?! belay

      shl
      By the way, when he served, we had an Uzbek in our company - what’s called a man! And when Kazakh was sent to prepare for the parade in Odessa - also a man in the full Russian sense of the word.
      1. de_monSher
        de_monSher 15 November 2015 22: 33 New
        +5
        Well and accordingly, why aren’t you raising energy in your homeland?


        I left at the call of my heart - rarely anyone would understand this, but still - since childhood, I wanted to participate in the elimination of the consequences of the Chernobyl accident. Honestly - I didn't make millions, I didn't have them, everyone often looked at me like an idiot - "you have to do money, not suffer the garbage!", This is the slogan of our time. Well ... not foreign to me countries and Ukraine, and Belarus and Russia, whatever one may say. In the Uzbek energy sector, God forbid, maybe I'll still take part (but this is not really my profile, to be honest - I am an applied mathematician, and my specialization is mathematical biology) - I think the nuclear power plant is still going to waste, together with Russia, on Aydarkul. Maybe then the "graters" will end, Uzbekistan with Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

        Like that...
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 15 November 2015 23: 44 New
          +1
          -Hello! Is there really a project to build a nuclear power plant in Aydarkul? Use the local salt water to cool the reactor? So they got it with the construction of the Chardara hydroelectric station!
          1. de_monSher
            de_monSher 15 November 2015 23: 51 New
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            Use the local salt water to cool the reactor?


            o_O ... Since when did Aydarkul become salty then? Specially after your words, I raised the reference information, just in case - mineralization 2 ppm. Do you seriously think such water is salty? If you take into account that the mineralization of the Volga, or Oka, can reach 8-10 ppm, then, honestly, the water of Aidarkul is generally super-fresh ... *)
            1. saygon66
              saygon66 15 November 2015 23: 54 New
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              - Probably wrote inaccurately .. I had to visit the salt lakes from the Chardara reservoir ... It’s long been true ...
              1. de_monSher
                de_monSher 15 November 2015 23: 59 New
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                Chardara reservoir ... The truth has long been ...


                All the water that did not reach the Aral Sea, the Shas accumulated in Aranasay - Syr Darya, almost all goes there. It seems that right now there are about 50 cubic kilometers of water, more than 3000 sq km mirror. So there are no salt lakes there ... *)
          2. de_monSher
            de_monSher 15 November 2015 23: 56 New
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            -Hello! Is there really a project to build a nuclear power plant in Aydarkul?


            Yes, I heard that such an opportunity is being worked out. The site seems to have been chosen, in the Arnasay area. Let's see what happens - but the probability of construction is high.
            1. saygon66
              saygon66 16 November 2015 00: 09 New
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              - It seems that the construction of the Chardara hydroelectric power station was later recognized as erroneous ... The reservoir turned out to be shallow, with a huge "mirror" area, which caused the evaporation of water, and, as a result, an increase in the concentration of salts. The adjacent territory was also flooded, just in the direction of Aydarkul ... Almost an ecological catastrophe ... The fish that multiplied in huge quantities does not count ... The hydroelectric station itself experienced problems associated with siltation of the conduits ... Water in Daria is the color of Stolovsky cocoa...
              1. de_monSher
                de_monSher 16 November 2015 00: 12 New
                +1
                It seems the construction of the Chardara hydroelectric station was later recognized as erroneous


                At the moment, the Chardara Hydroelectric Power Station has been transferred to Kazakhstan - this is for reference. In the mid-10s there was a disengagement of territories.

                And as for Aidarkul and Daria - neither naya nor naya ... I’ve been doing underwater hunting there all the 10th years, with pleasure. Water is wonderful, in the ducts it is crystal clear ... *)
                1. saygon66
                  saygon66 16 November 2015 00: 17 New
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                  - Perhaps ... Yet 30 years ago ... The sea was approaching the city of Chardara itself ...
      2. de_monSher
        de_monSher 15 November 2015 22: 47 New
        +1
        Why are you so Russian at one time massively left, why leave if so good.


        I skipped this question. I did not say that everything is fine - I said that everything is like everywhere else in the world (by the way, I don’t like the modern world order - loot rules the show everywhere, and there is no ideology).

        As for those who left - I have no right to speak FOR THEM. They themselves will say everything, I think, when they want and if they want.

        I can only say that in the 90s, they were driving from a surge of Uzbek nationalism. In the 2000s, nationalism was uprooted, thank God ... but, hmm, you see, I always said and say - Uzbekistan, this is the late USSR. Here, obviously, they will not let you get rich. Do you understand? A striking example is the Russian-Uzbek billionaire Usmanov. Then he would not have become a billionaire - they simply wouldn’t have done it to him, would have planted him (he, by the way, was in Uzbekistan).

        But there are more than one or two reasons for leaving the country. Ask those who left, and draw your conclusions ... but throw out such a thing as Uzbek nationalism. It is practically gone.
  20. atamankko
    atamankko 15 November 2015 21: 49 New
    +2
    Well, the US can use the corrupt power of some states
    The great experience and ability to find and manipulate traitors in the countries affects.
  21. flay
    flay 15 November 2015 21: 57 New
    0
    Quote: v.yegorov
    Wherever you spit, you will fall into the enemy, and friends are such ambiguous, mow
    with a sly look to the side. Well, where to go to the Russian man, where to find
    loyal friends and allies? The Army and Navy alone will not be enough, new friends
    need to grow and attract to your side. And we, in pursuit of profits, started this process, we lost all old friends. In the same Afghanistan
    how many abandoned, pro-Russian-minded people who studied in our country? All about ... whether.


    Well, straight and EVERYTHING. Yes they started
    but not pr..li or pr..e..li (I did not understand, I apologize, which word is correct in meaning? laughing )
    The only question is with whom to be friends? The prospect is only the Taliban?
    Quote: Vladimir 1964
    The point of view of the author is interesting. As for the analysis of the state of the Afghan army, I consider it competent and objective. But on the question of finding allies or at least some kind of "fulcrum" in Afghanistan we will have to search for anyone, because otherwise we will lose influence in this serious region. I agree with the author in the plans for the supply of weapons, the situation here is really not predictable, but then we need to look for other levers of influence or rather cooperation with the same "The Taliban", based on at least the old principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". hi
  22. Altona
    Altona 15 November 2015 22: 15 New
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    I don't understand why Americans and Europeans are trying to do business there ... Eastern peoples do not recognize agreements with the wrong ones, all supplies of weapons and uniforms are immediately thrown into local markets ... Germany supplied excellent sets of police uniforms - they all turned out to be on the market, Walter PPK pistols like James Bond in the same place, with harnesses and holsters and new oils. It's the same with American weapons, Barrett rifles, a good thing, they shoot far away ... They only recognize strength, that is, a bearded man comes at night, puts a barrel to his head and goes to fight a farmer, no, they will give 50 or 100 dollars to the family, but he will go to war voluntarily and forcibly ... And all sorts of democracy and civil procedures are generally an unknown beast ... There is some mahalla commission in the kishlak, everything will be decided there, there are also people who know writing and arithmetic ... the experience of communicating with the peoples of Soviet then Turkestan (such Achilov and Kurbanmagomedov were sitting in the next control room, Achilov's dream was to marry the beautiful Aigul, a cute girl on her head with 43 pigtails, 2 "Volga" kalym need) ...
  23. family tree
    family tree 15 November 2015 22: 54 New
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    This what From what crossroads did the author of the Turks decide to compare with the Afghans?
    No, there is only an excuse, and the sale of the dreams of all the Russian tsars will come true, along the way, achoa, we will drive the Bosphorus repeat
    And in Afghanistan there is no army, even among the Taliban, so there are separate gangs, with, like, a central leadership. If you don’t pay attention to the Western howl, then, to accustom and swear fidelity, two fingers (feudalism, cho, and even remember who the Shuravi arerepeat )
    1. Love
      Love 15 November 2015 23: 11 New
      0
      Moreover, their tricks with the fellow Britons suggest thoughts ... belay Why, it is interesting to know, the guarantor is silent? ..
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 16 November 2015 02: 13 New
        +2
        I don't see anything bad. I would be happy for the trade and economic successes of my neighbor and ally. The reason is simple. The richer the neighbor, the more trade and less serious problems. "There is nothing worse than a poor neighbor."
        Actually, the idea of ​​the United States in the "5 + 1" committee is as follows (as stated by the US authorities). They want to integrate Afghanistan into the Central Asian economy. And thereby raise the Afghan. Let's see if there will be any constructive actions by the United States or all this is boltology. And there are several BUTs at once:
        1. They were told that the military problem of Afghanistan can not be solved. It is necessary to at least establish infrastructure (roads, water supply, electricity, etc.) there. But the Westerners did nothing. And how to trade without transport links?
        2. Afghan in ruins. What can we trade with them? They have no grandmothers, and the US is not really investing in the Afghan economy.
        3. In Soviet Central Asia and Kazakhstan, we ourselves cannot agree. Grater above the roof. From energy to water. Not to mention the minefields at the borders and often blocked roads. Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan are in the EAEU, Turkmenistan is "kept", Tashkent did not want to integrate and, for example, closed the railway communication with Dushanbe altogether. Tajiks all the time look around to the south - as if there were no flashes on the borders. And the US will suddenly "integrate" everyone with its tarnished authority?
        4. And who will invest in Afghanistan now, where are the guarantees? This TAPI pipeline is "registered with a pitchfork on the water."
        Therefore, this committee is more like a platform for private talks between diplomats. But let’s see if the USA can really invest in the economy of the region and Afghanistan especially. And at our expense, it will not crawl now - there is no stability in the south of Central Asia. hi
        1. Andrey NM
          Andrey NM 16 November 2015 06: 31 New
          +2
          Great. We played a little Afghan here, and now let's integrate Afghanistan into the Central Asian economy. Oh, and what goods do they have for their neighbors! From the poppy! Do you like flowers? We also indulged in cookies in Ukraine ... Europe and Russia, we have to do something, they are so bad right now! Oh, and even here in Libya, Syria and Iraq, people wandered off somewhere, you really accept him, otherwise you are far away from us and we don’t like bearded ones. Yes, when you help, here are the account numbers, all the money only through them, we swear by mom, everyone will do good deeds ...

          And everywhere - they are alone, they pump everything out of the situation, and the whole world should correct the situation, but without them.
      2. exalex2
        exalex2 16 November 2015 06: 48 New
        -1
        Quote: Love
        Why, it is interesting to know, the guarantor is silent? ..

        Money and "friends" are over.
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  26. dvg79
    dvg79 16 November 2015 04: 08 New
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    Dear administration, why did they transfer me to foreigners? Why did they hang the flag of Iceland.
  27. mamont5
    mamont5 16 November 2015 05: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Anglo-Americans will never lag behind Russia!

    Well, why? Left behind when they fall apart.
  28. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 16 November 2015 05: 59 New
    +1
    Losses among personnel, in equipment, in armaments of the USSR Armed Forces are many times greater than those of the Americans.

    The author, do not tell me what losses are incurred by contractors in "country A" or "Eistan"? Don't know, don't you? Are they included in the official statistics? Also no? And the fact that there are 4 times more of them than GI, also did not hear?
    It's sad ....
  29. meriem1
    meriem1 16 November 2015 06: 29 New
    +1
    I’ll add one final touch after all: since 2013, Georgian military instructors have been involved in training Afghan soldiers.


    Here it is a systemic crisis and the inability to think logically! Pashtuns who dream of dying with joy in battle will be trained by shameful people from Georgia ??? Will they teach snoring ???
  30. exalex2
    exalex2 16 November 2015 06: 33 New
    0
    What, someone had doubts? We are "brothers" "partners" "friends" "colleagues" "allies", but not enemies .. The ubiquitous speaks like that .. Who and what is against? Alexander Romanov?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 November 2015 06: 57 New
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      Quote: exalex2
      We are "brothers" "partners" "friends" "colleagues" "allies", but not enemies

      Wow, why then our Omnipresent will not go to meet our partners, friends and allies, will not return Crimea, as required by friends and allies. Will he not hand over Assad to be torn to pieces by partners?
      Quote: exalex2
      Alexander Romanov?

      Oh yeah, you hear Putin called them Partners, Partners. Big minds are not enough. It's a pity, but these are not my difficulties hi
      1. exalex2
        exalex2 16 November 2015 09: 46 New
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        [quote = Alexander Romanov] You don't have enough intelligence for big ones.
        I have enough .. You do not bother me.
  31. Platonich
    Platonich 16 November 2015 06: 40 New
    -1
    Yeah! There will be a second Ukraine from Kazakhstan! We’ll lose it soon too !!
  32. maikl50jrij
    maikl50jrij 16 November 2015 07: 25 New
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    Afghans have a whole life of war. This is the people whose children are born with weapons in order to survive. Amers will not "take" the Afghans. They understand this, but to leave completely from there means to lose the zone of influence, although they did not influence anything there except the intensity of the "burning" of internecine strife. It was not in vain that the Americans carried money in suitcases to Central Asia, the former republics of our union. They were preparing revolutions. Establishment of a unified government there was expensive for the USSR. Now it will be even more expensive if we "interfere" there. Only through negotiation, persuasion and example can you convince. We cannot "click through" this moment. That's when you will remember our "first presidents" with a "kind" word!
  33. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 November 2015 08: 00 New
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    We can say with confidence only one thing: Russia is only dreaming of peace. It seems that we will again have to return to Soviet times, when up to 80% of the country's resources went to the army. Otherwise, we will not be able to ensure our security. If it is otherwise, we can only welcome such a thing .
  34. GUKTU
    GUKTU 16 November 2015 08: 58 New
    +1
    Everything is very simple. When the grace is bad for the Americans in Eurasia. In someone else’s misfortune, mattress workers earn and remove competitors. So it was, is and will be. The bigger the mess in the EU and Asia, the better the US economy. And so it will endlessly, until there is a mattress
  35. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 18 November 2015 01: 24 New
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    This time, areas where the Tajik and Uzbek populations hostile to the Taliban were subjected to bold attacks. In early October, the Taliban took control of several counties in the province of Kunduz and the city of Kunduz itself (which was then left without a fight by them). Further, in the Dakar county, the Afghan province of Tahar, bordering Tajikistan, the Taliban attacked army positions, roadblocks, police cordons and police stations on the night of October 27-28, and administrative institutions were attacked.


    Against the backdrop of these events, the 149th Guards of SMEs, deployed in the Republic of Tajikistan in Kulyab, are being withdrawn as soon as possible from Kulyab to Dushanbe, as the Soviet PGW, to nowhere.
    There is no housing for l / s. There is no official housing in the required quantity. Tajiks, having learned about such a case, piled up the price for raising housing and now the prices for an empty apartment in the GIPROZEM area (201BB deployment area) are comparable to Moscow - about 300 green American rubles .The most interesting thing is that they require payment in dollars !!! In rubles and in local currency do not charge!
    Full scribe ...