Minister vs Merkel: putsch ("Der Spiegel", Germany)

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The migration crisis becomes a government crisis. Schaeuble and de Maizières conduct policies at their own peril and risk Merkel has lost the authority to set the rules.

Loss of control. That is the accusation of Angela Merkel, made against the background of the migration crisis. By law. The chancellor without control is the chancellor who is in crisis. However, the problem of Merkel is not in strangers. And in her friends. No one should expect Merkel to keep control over refugee flows. But it is perfectly fair to expect from her that she will control her government. Control of a wave of refugees is an illusion. Control over their own ministers is a must. We are witnessing the process of depriving the chancellor of power. Too late to pronounce the final word?

This government does not even control its own actions. The migration crisis has become a government crisis. Chaotic days in the Office of the Chancellor. Kaleidoscope of events: first, the coalition negotiates a new policy on migrants who are seeking asylum. Then, unexpectedly, the Minister of the Interior appears from around the corner with a statement about the substantial tightening of the mechanisms previously discussed. Immediately after that, he has to take his words back, and the special representative of the Chancellor reports that everything remains as before. And on top of the picture of the word disorder, Wolfgang Schäuble asks for words (Wolfgang Schäuble - Minister of Finance of the Federal Republic of Germany - approx. Per.) And expresses support to the Minister of Internal Affairs. Schäuble, the shadow chancellor, who recently recalled that he was now just as old as Adenauer when he first became chancellor.


Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble

Dirty games of those in power

This is not about trivia: how long can refugees from Syria stay in Germany where a civil war rages? Do they have the right to take their families for reunification? After the compromise decision on refugees, adopted last week, the answers to the questions were: three years and yes. But then it turned out: the Minister of the Interior was playing marked cards. There is the so-called subsidiary protection - only one year of stay and the refusal to reunite with the family. According to the agreement reached a week ago, this rule was supposed to apply to only a very small group of people - 1700 people. Suddenly, de Maiziere declares that such a rule should be valid for the Syrians. De Maizieres - Sharper.

Minister vs Merkel: putsch ("Der Spiegel", Germany)

Home Secretary Thomas de Maiziere

To prevent such chaos, Angela Merkel appointed her confidant, Peter Altmaier, as the coordinator of refugee-related actions. But when he was asked about the trick of de Mezieres, Altmayer had to admit: “I personally did not know that, that’s true.” If he hoped that the matter was settled this way, then he did not take into account the existence of Schäuble. Speaking on television on Sunday, Schaeuble noted that de Mezieres made the “necessary” decision.

There are dirty games of those in power at the expense of tens of thousands of women and children. Their husbands and fathers are in Germany. These are those alone moving men whom the Germans are so afraid of. And now Schaeuble and de Maiziere want to ban them from taking their families? These are Muslims whose Germans are so worried about integrating. And now Schaeuble and de Maiziere want to deprive them of the opportunity to integrate? If their families are not provided with a legal path to reunification, they will look for illegal ways, which may be fatal. On the south coast will lie even more children's corpses.

Such a policy would be heartless and thoughtless. But this no longer concerns Schaeuble and de Maisiere. They now have only one goal: the number of foreigners should not increase. Because in Germany, hatred of foreigners is increasing. Because the republic is changing. However, not foreigners change Germany - the Germans do it. Schaeuble and de Maiziere united with public opinion - against their own government. They think that the majority of the population is on their side. And the Social Democratic Party (SPD)? She really thinks so too.

The behavior of Thomas de Mezieres and Wolfgang Schäuble can be described in one word: putsch.
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  1. +23
    14 November 2015 06: 25
    What geyropa so liquidly managed? Where are the so-called European values? Teaching Russians is nicer than raking up a bunch of your shit.
    1. +9
      14 November 2015 06: 58
      everything goes according to plan. this plan was outlined in general in the 19th century.
      so it was planned and inevitable in decaying Europe.
      and decomposition began in the souls of Europeans, and only then passed into visible forms.

      and the so-called "Author" Jakob Augstein apparently received a finished article from his "owners"
      1. +2
        14 November 2015 07: 04
        Quote: Starfish
        and the so-called "Author" Jakob Augstein apparently received a finished article from his "owners"

        You probably mean the hidden support of Merkel? All that is against her is a putsch.
        1. +7
          14 November 2015 07: 29
          What a crap, not a coup
          dirty games of those in power at the expense of tens of thousands of women and children. Their husbands and fathers are in Germany. These are the men alone moving ..

          Ah, poor lonely peasants ...
          To plow them ..

          Does it seem to anyone that everything in the article is upside down?
          Read disgusting ..
          1. +5
            14 November 2015 07: 50
            Quote: Lance
            Ah, poor lonely peasants ... To plow on them .. Doesn’t it seem to anyone that everything in the article is upside down? It is disgusting to read ..


            It's disgusting. And it’s strange that it is healthy MEN who are fleeing, not women and children — and indeed in all conflicts they are the bulk of the refugees.
            And the ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the finance fellows are from the remnants of real Germans. Even their faces are worthy, not like a sad grimace Merkel ....
            1. +7
              14 November 2015 08: 28
              Quote: Lance
              What a crap, not a coup
              dirty games of those in power at the expense of tens of thousands of women and children. Their husbands and fathers are in Germany. These are the men alone moving ..

              Ah, poor lonely peasants ...
              To plow them ..

              Does it seem to anyone that everything in the article is upside down?
              Read disgusting ..

              Yeah. And I also liked the interview with such a “poor man” - you didn't give us shelter well .. Money, shelter, food, all this is certainly good, but we do not have enough sex. I was amazed by such rudeness .. About the lack of normal employment, mind you not a word ...
              1. +2
                14 November 2015 09: 02
                Properly sat on the neck and legs hung!
              2. +2
                14 November 2015 15: 13
                Quote: severniy
                Quote: Lance
                What a crap, not a coup
                dirty games of those in power at the expense of tens of thousands of women and children. Their husbands and fathers are in Germany. These are the men alone moving ..

                Ah, poor lonely peasants ...
                To plow them ..

                Does it seem to anyone that everything in the article is upside down?
                Read disgusting ..

                Yeah. And I also liked the interview with such a “poor man” - you didn't give us shelter well .. Money, shelter, food, all this is certainly good, but we do not have enough sex. I was amazed by such rudeness .. About the lack of normal employment, mind you not a word ...

                in Europe, in general, the problem with logic - how can you call young 20-35 year old men refugees who abandoned their families in a belligerent country? These are not refugees; they are either economic emigrants or fleeing militants. We must pay tribute - some of the IDM wakes up common sense and they admit that of those who are called "Syrian refugees" there are no more than 10% of real Syrians. The fact remains that those who cannot or do not want to put things in order in their country, but REQUIRES a particularly reverent attitude in the country due to a misunderstanding of those who adopted it, will not be able to give anything good to the new "Motherland". The psychology of traitors is always the same - they always whine loudly about how bad they felt in their country while not trying to become part of the host country, at best they become parasites.
            2. +8
              14 November 2015 08: 31
              Quote: Aleksander
              And it’s strange that it is healthy MEN who are running, and not women and children -

              This is not strange: half of these men go to intelligence to find a place to live, work and call for a family (such laws in the EU). Another part, alone, went in search of happiness, and about a tenth part - mishandled Cossack ISIS, who at the right time will pull an automatic machine out from under the mattress and go to arrange Muslim orders in Europe.
              And the later Europe joins Russian initiatives in Syria and Iraq, the greater the threat of such a probability will increase.
              The best way: to bring order to the big uncles in the BV and to send all refugees, especially family-free, from Geyropa by the nearest express train.
              Cruel?
              Yes, but there is no other way out - Europe will not pull into the crisis the content of such a number of displaced people, it wants it, it doesn’t want it, but it will be necessary to return them to places of permanent residence that still need to be restored, but it’s much cheaper than keeping refugees, giving them no hope of housing or work.
              1. +1
                14 November 2015 08: 49
                in topic to article news France. Horror
            3. +2
              14 November 2015 13: 36
              The concept of "critical mass" will force anyone to think, and the "instinct of national self-preservation" will correct anyone.
              Everything has a limit. The reaction to the inaction of the authorities is the activity of the population, which can go to a victorious end, giving rise to new leaders.
              Especially when the authorities are already causing open hostility.
              For example, the Russian "pseudo-elites" also think not in national interests, but in considerations of financial well-being, which was called into question by the West, BUT .., someone got tired of convincing them and began to kick them.
              For there are no irreplaceable people.
      2. 0
        14 November 2015 08: 22
        Quote: Starfish
        and decay began in the souls of Europeans

        noticed that European experts are multiplying at VO in geometric progression. Moreover, the majority of "experts" do not have the slightest idea about the mentality of the average European.
        1. +1
          14 November 2015 08: 39
          "Moreover, the majority of" experts "do not have the slightest idea about the mentality of an average European"

          on the basis of what such conclusions are made?
          1. 0
            14 November 2015 08: 46
            Quote: Starfish
            on the basis of what such conclusions are made?

            based on comments.
            1. +4
              14 November 2015 10: 25
              More specifically, with examples and debriefing, please. You can roll the post about this.
              Well, it would be nice to indicate the level of your own competence in the issue of European studies. Profile education? History, political science, socionics?
      3. 0
        14 November 2015 17: 55
        A supposedly interesting name for the Aryan ...
    2. +3
      14 November 2015 07: 03
      Quote: Nymp
      Where are the so-called European values?

      And you can list these values. And then I myself can’t remember anything.
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 07: 19
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And you can list these values. And then I myself can’t remember anything.

        Well, that’s all that they think we don’t have! I began to list and it was revealed to me that the text contains inadmissible information on the site, although I did not write anything illegal! Let me write you better in PM.
        1. +5
          14 November 2015 07: 48
          Quote: Nymp

          Well, that’s all that they think we don’t have!

          Briefly about Western values ​​....
        2. 0
          14 November 2015 08: 52
          And me! And me! also. I want to be LITERATE AND ENLIGHTENED! good
      2. +1
        14 November 2015 08: 51
        I join. something I don’t remember theirs (sorry for illiteracy) values ​​... what request
        1. -2
          14 November 2015 09: 17
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko
          something I don’t remember theirs (sorry for illiteracy) values ​​...

          ok, let's go from the opposite: list ours.
          1. +1
            14 November 2015 15: 20
            Quote: Das Boot
            ok, let's go from the opposite: list ours.

            Peace, Love, Freedom, Good, Justice.
            Remember not to confuse.
            1. 0
              14 November 2015 18: 41
              Quote: north
              Peace, Love, Freedom, Good, Justice.

              oh how cute.
              Well, cars on the lawns, rudeness on the roads, household stabbing, total bureaucratic bribery, nepotism, teenage dullness, xenophobia - this is Alpha Centauri, aren't we?
              Incidentally,
              Quote: north
              Remember not to confuse.

              before varnished lubok here to offer.
    3. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 46
      Quote: Nymp
      What geyropa so liquidly managed? Where are the so-called European values? Teaching Russians is nicer than raking up a bunch of your shit.


      Let them teach !! And Vaska listens and eats! What they did not warn? They sanction the light. Blinded with rage. You see, Russia defends its own rights. That's it for Big, miss the most important thing !!! BUT!! WARNED !!!!!!!!
    4. 0
      14 November 2015 09: 10
      The EU campaign crackled at the seams. Mockingbird tweeted for a long time, but they did not understand, thinking that it was only a small bird, but it turned out to be God's eye.
      1. +2
        14 November 2015 10: 25
        What is now Europe after the attacks in Paris. Hundreds of thousands of obscure elements roam the continent, a dozen of them put France on their ears in one evening. And from this mass it is easy to recruit more than one Basmachi division. In general, one place in Europe is pretty hot.
    5. +3
      14 November 2015 11: 34
      Quote: Nymp
      What geyropa so liquidly managed?


      The fact that Europe has "managed" is its hemorrhoids. Let the creation itself be disentangled. Both Putin and Lavrov warned our European "sworn partners" about the consequences of their insane policies - they were arrogantly ignored, and that's what they got.
      We, Russia, need to take all possible measures to avoid the "European syndrome".
    6. 0
      15 November 2015 12: 04
      Quote: Nymp
      What geyropa so liquidly managed? Where are the so-called European values? Teaching Russians is nicer than raking up a bunch of your shit.

      And what else remains for them to do. When a black gentleman thinks for you and his interests coincide with the Germanic, that’s good. And when they do not match, they have what they have. It is bad that ordinary people suffer because of the limited German government.
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  2. +9
    14 November 2015 06: 27
    This is not a trifle: how long can refugees from Syria stay in Germany, where the civil war is raging?
    and here you Germans got stuck in solid oil, "refugees" you already seem to be forever, you will not carry out a global "cleanup"? learn the language, build mosques ...
    1. +2
      14 November 2015 06: 31
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Germans stuck in solidol

      Those. are not familiar with a stickier substance in Rezh or something what? Oh i don't believe feel ...
      Hi, geopolitics of the local spill! drinks
      1. +5
        14 November 2015 06: 33
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Those. are they not familiar with a stickier substance in Rezh, or what?

        Are you talking about a colleague? after all, we’re not familiar ... we are pooping with butterflies! wink drinks Hey Ya hi
        1. +4
          14 November 2015 06: 41
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          geopolitics of the local spill!

          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Are you talking about a colleague?

          Talked in the morning sad laughing Hi drinks
          1. +2
            14 November 2015 06: 45
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Talked in the morning

            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Are you talking about a colleague?

            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            local spill geopolitics

            Thinking for three already. Shame should be thump in the morning.
            1. +3
              14 November 2015 06: 47
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              For three already think.

              Join in Yes We’ll kill a tragus or we’ll drive Partizan into the swamp wink
              1. 0
                14 November 2015 07: 01
                Quote: Ruslan67
                We’ll kill a tragus or we’ll drive Partizan into the swamp

                I know the partisan, but who is the "tragus"? what
                1. +4
                  14 November 2015 07: 05
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  and who is the "tragus"?

                  I'm talking about dominoes feel We are definitely all in the midst of patriotism fool For example, we don’t think about hammering a nail No. We immediately specify: Whom? and sometimes: For what? wassat
              2. +1
                14 November 2015 07: 04
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Partisan in the swamp

                First appoint him an Afghan refugee, and then you can drive.
                1. +2
                  14 November 2015 07: 07
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Make him an Afghan refugee first

                  We’ll appoint him a Betifob. laughing
            2. +3
              14 November 2015 06: 51
              I didn’t drink in the morning, the day was gone.
            3. +5
              14 November 2015 06: 59
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              It should be a shame to thump in the morning.

              that you are Alexander, we are not "petunya", in the morning it is possible ... the current of January 1st! Yes
              1. +6
                14 November 2015 07: 02
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                in the morning then ... the current of January 1 is possible!

                Can not stay up Yes Then as if yesterday recourse laughing
                1. +1
                  14 November 2015 07: 06
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  You can not go to bed. Then as if yesterday

                  Iron logic Ruslan! Yes
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                5. +1
                  14 November 2015 07: 57
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  in the morning then ... the current of January 1 is possible!

                  Can not stay up Yes Then as if yesterday recourse laughing


                  good
              2. +1
                14 November 2015 08: 56
                class !!!! very relevant and sorry that a little off topic!
          2. +2
            14 November 2015 06: 46
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            geopolitics of the local spill!
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Are you talking about a colleague?

            Take it out of context, Colleague! am
            Hi Ruslan! drinks Are you crawling? How long will you ... When will you go already?
            1. +4
              14 November 2015 06: 49
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              . When will you go already?

              He went am wassat
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              Take it out of context, Colleague!

              But how professional winked Colleague hi
              1. +1
                14 November 2015 06: 53
                Quote: Ruslan67
                He went

                Well, I would not call THIS method of transportation with the loud word "go" what .... But the fact that CAM, without reminders and target designations request - this is a plus for you, of course ...Yes .
                And about the refugees wink ...Read?:
                http://politobzor.net/show-70872-a-ne-postavit-li-norvegiyu-na-mesto.html
                1. +2
                  14 November 2015 07: 00
                  Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                  And about the refugees wink ... Read ?:

                  Yes
                2. +1
                  14 November 2015 07: 02
                  [quote] [quote = angry partisan] [quote = Ruslan67] He himself went [/ quote]
                  Well, I would not call THIS way of movement with the loud word "go" ... [/ quote]. But what is CAM, without reminders and targeting request . laughing laughing laughing burning old! good
              2. +2
                14 November 2015 07: 07
                Quote: Ruslan67
                But how professional

                How professionally he divorced us all. Ruslan, the last time when he drew in skype, I did not see Yura, Mavrodi himself was sitting in front of me wassat Atalef and I are already fucked up laughing
                Hey MMM JSC, give the money to the villa until I turned you over to the cops.
                1. +3
                  14 November 2015 07: 11
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Atalef and I are already fucked up

                  I attended laughing
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  How professionally he brought us all apart

                  And pretended to be a skin on a log sad laughing
                  1. +1
                    14 November 2015 07: 14
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    I attended

                    You were not there request
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    And pretended to be a skin on a log

                    Then he drives from hotel to hotel, changes location, is encrypted. But then the bubble let me down wassat
                    1. +2
                      14 November 2015 07: 21
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      You were not there

                      Go to fig-I then dumped beer with his son-in-law fool And he poured bottles on beech there wassat
                2. +1
                  14 November 2015 07: 13
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Hey MMM, give money to the villa

                  Easy: 250% per annum, the receipt - in blood, the kidneys - as a guarantee (doctors will definitely not take your liver as a guarantee ...) and all business. Yes
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  until I passed you to the cops.

                  The messenger has not yet grown ...
                  Hi, borrower! drinks
                  1. +1
                    14 November 2015 07: 20
                    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                    Hi, borrower!

                    Give a million miser angry
                    And in general, do you have a roof?
                    1. +3
                      14 November 2015 07: 23
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And in general, do you have a roof?

                      No. Swept away from frequent consumption wassat
                    2. 0
                      14 November 2015 07: 23
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Give a million

                      I don't serve on Saturdays stop ...
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      miser

                      Not a squeeze, but a zealous host Yes .
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      do you have a roof

                      In a medical sense, yes. And you winked ?
  3. +6
    14 November 2015 06: 28
    refugees from Syria, where a civil war is raging

    as you got, there are refugees from Syria and 20% will not be from the total number of the migration crowd. You will savor your crisis in Europe, but do not tell the whole truth not to yourself not to people. Look at France, gentlemen, German officials and begin to restore order in your offices and heads.
  4. +11
    14 November 2015 06: 30
    Indeed, the governments of most EU countries are at a loss today. Alternative is too scary
    I. Or to abandon everything that has been shouted at for every corner for decades. Renounce tolerance. Renounce tolerance. Renounce democracy for all.
    Or lose the country. Just because illiterate, low-skilled refugees have one important advantage over natives. They breed. They are increasing in number. And they don’t want to become Germans, French or some Czechs. They were and remain Syrians, Tunisians, Iraqis ... They are Arabs.
    It seems to me that soon we will see the end of Schengen. The end of the EU. The EU is falling apart as the USSR used to be.
  5. +2
    14 November 2015 06: 35
    This is not a coup, this is a riot. Both civilian ministers and both are dissatisfied with the actions of Frau Chancellor, which is quite logical. Both perfectly understand the consequences of the "migration crisis" for Germany ...
  6. +2
    14 November 2015 06: 37
    Maybe here, in Germany, what will happen in Paris, and then the response of the common people will be reciprocal, and this is dangerous with so many migrants.
    1. +1
      14 November 2015 06: 43
      I don’t think ... Be that as it may, the German specialists will still be cooler than the French ones. But about the common people .. Alas, the Germans too believed in their exclusiveness in the EU. The glorified three "K" is more important to them than everything else
      1. +1
        14 November 2015 09: 02
        Quote: domokl
        The glorified three "K" is more important to them than everything else

        in the sense of: kinder, kirche, kyuchen?
        but in my opinion a very old sound will soon be more relevant in Germany: the Ku Klux Klan ... doesn’t resemble anything? I am very familiar with this sound. (who jerked the Mosin rifle shutter can confirm - one to one)
      2. 0
        14 November 2015 12: 32
        The glorified three "K" is more important to them than everything else,
        Yeah, especially after the construction of numerous minarets, the prohibition of wearing crosses, the instructions of Muslim patrols from their three Ks, there remains only the obligation to support refugees.
    2. +1
      14 November 2015 07: 15
      Quote: zekaze1980
      and then the answer of the common people will be the answer

      Capaciously and with meaning. Have you decided to "bypass" Vital? Wow, good luck.
  7. +1
    14 November 2015 06: 38
    Angela cannot so ministers resist the pressure of the imigran masses, for Germany such an unprecedented violation of discipline but see no other way of resistance.
  8. +3
    14 November 2015 06: 40
    I am afraid that even Germany, which I considered (and not without reason) to be a model of order, cannot withstand the pressure of problems that are brought with them by the streams of Muslims who rushed "for freebies" from everywhere. Far from only from Syria. Europe did not understand that a targeted action called refugees from Syria was also inspired and prepared, and among these streams of Albanians, Afghans, Pakistanis, Libyans and, a little, Syrians - hundreds of trained fighters, with money, connections, and now understandable goals ...
    1. +1
      14 November 2015 09: 29
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      among these streams of Albanians, Afghans, Pakistanis, Libyans, and, a bit, Syrians - hundreds of trained militants, with money, connections, and now clear goals.

      Merkel will send these "extra" to Ukraine. They are already agreeing that Germany will give lard and 400 thousand refugees in addition. Again, the "visa-free regime" ... Although she may be dismissed earlier "for health reasons," she will definitely not wait until the end of the term with such a policy.
    2. +1
      14 November 2015 12: 54
      Yes. having visited Munich some time ago, I was surprised at the changes. dirty, a lot of beggars, bicycles in parking lots are already on chains everywhere; the metro and the old narrow streets are "ammoniac", and sooooo many people of Arabian or similar appearance.
  9. +2
    14 November 2015 06: 45
    Until Merkel kicked off to the states, that’s how it will be.
    1. +2
      14 November 2015 07: 22
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Until Merkel kicked off to the states, that’s how it will be.

      Until the states, under which they lay down, are kicked, so it will be. And the chancellor is needed for Germany with the iron "Fabergés".
  10. 0
    14 November 2015 06: 47
    The meaning of the change:
    Where not to kiss ---- everywhere ...........! It’s bad if there are many single young men. And if they bring families, it’s even worse!
    Maybe a quiet coup will happen? Will Merkel be ousted?
  11. +2
    14 November 2015 06: 48
    However, Merkel’s problem is not foreigners. AND in her friends.

    Of course, this is one of Merkel’s main concerns. When (one can only guess for what reasons) she is kept on a short leash, and she indulges in undisguised enthusiasm for the policies of the United States to the detriment of her country, what kind of trust can be talked about by reasonable Germans. Sooner or later, but patience will end. What we begin to observe. And in less than 1-2 years, the EU itself will be in question.
    1. 0
      14 November 2015 09: 01
      Quote: rotmistr60
      one can only guess for what reasons) they keep her on a short leash,


      There’s no need to guess here: the elections of the UN Secretary General are on the nose - now they’re preparing Angelka.
      Only because of these events, everything begins to crumble: it is unlikely to normalize such a mess without losing the reputation and unity of the EU.
  12. +1
    14 November 2015 07: 01
    After the events in Paris, Germany will begin to think in an adult way, and not play in heideocracy! Returning refugees to their historical homeland will be cheaper, though
    will have to redefine European values!
  13. +2
    14 November 2015 07: 29
    Just look ... You don't even need to comment here! It is called "bombed", so get the result gentlemen ...
    1. 0
      14 November 2015 07: 55
      ------- Just look ... You don't even need to comment here! It is called "bombed", so get the result gentlemen ...------ these are the consequences of tolerance - savages should live in the wild !!!!
    2. +2
      14 November 2015 08: 24
      Crowds of people on the roller are basically an angry crowd of young men who do not resemble refugees in any way, refugees are only on separate frames.
      This is the crowd of people who came to Europe for their own. Yielding to pseudo-democratic appeals denouncing the authorities of these Muslim countries, they opened the country's gates to foreign influence and they lost a predominantly complicated, but their own country.
      And they came to Europe for what Europe promised them and did not fulfill. For their adventure in the BV, Europeans will have to share their prosperity (which for many Europeans was already fragile). It will simply not be possible to get rid of such "refugees", they will take for themselves what Europe has promised them. But what will then be left of European well-being? That's the question.
    3. +1
      14 November 2015 10: 47
      On the one hand, it’s cool, of course, Zybysyanks are jumping in search of a free euro :) On the other hand, there are a lot of these Zybysyans and they are very muscular and evil. No matter how they are white and soft Europeans ...
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  16. +5
    14 November 2015 08: 01
    And this is the end of Ramadan in Moscow. How many refugee-gastar-illegal immigrants are there? Russians-Russians have something to think about what Although I am well aware that Russia is multinational, but 20 years ago this was not the case.
    1. +8
      14 November 2015 08: 12
      20 years ago, there were fewer Bandera people.
      the dulling of the masses is bearing fruit. By the way, not only the masses of Muslims are getting dull, but everyone else. propaganda of stupidity on TV, numbing education, it is not only in the West and Ukraine - it is also growing in Russia.
      now it does not even need to be actively promoted, it is already being reproduced. because the "stupid" young teachers already "dull" schoolchildren and students in education themselves. and they don't even know about it, they just work honestly, as they were taught.
      1. -2
        14 November 2015 08: 38
        Quote: Starfish
        dullness

        Quote: Starfish
        getting dull

        Quote: Starfish
        stupidity

        Quote: Starfish
        numbing

        Quote: Starfish
        stupid

        Quote: Starfish
        "dull"


        and this is only five lines. laughing Dumb, please?
    2. 0
      14 November 2015 08: 33
      Quote: Barracuda
      Russians-Russians have something to think about

      and what exactly? That we, it turns out, have so many muslims? What a surprise ...
    3. +2
      14 November 2015 09: 07
      Quote: Barracuda
      How many refugee-gastar-illegal immigrants are there


      And what is the difference between the French Production and the Russian?
      Yes, nothing!
      If you think that our government is controlled by Putin, then you are mistaken: just like the French, Russian government is controlled by the IMF, Putin can only adjust the actions of our government within the fright that Putin inspires them, and put villains to the wall can not - States protect their agents ...
  17. +4
    14 November 2015 08: 02
    We recall how the special services of the SGA removed the last chancellor, who defended the interests of Germany Schroeder. Also, the SGA seated a satisfied Merkel on the throne, and how to be dissatisfied, the whole SGA apparatus worked on it, as it seemed. Only here the trick is that the SGA works only for itself. Merkel and Germany and her ilk are a little pig, which they take care of, feed and provide the most favorable living conditions. Until a certain point. There is only one sense in this little pig - to please the real masters of the situation with their flesh. The burghers were fattened for a long time, put to sleep vigilance and imposed a certain way of life ... But is it not time for a friendly feast, but what to bring to the table? And what do you think?
    1. 0
      14 November 2015 08: 29
      Quote: Sergey Guryev
      And what do you think?

      I think it's time for you to tie it with pork stew.
  18. +1
    14 November 2015 08: 43
    So what did the author of the article want to say? Germans should kiss a bunch of crooks in the ass and feed at the expense of their taxes? Among the crowd of illegal immigrants, not only Syrians, but also a bunch of Iraqis, Afghans and others who want to improve their living conditions at the expense of others. Well, they left their defenseless families in danger?
    1. 0
      14 November 2015 08: 55
      Quote: 123_123
      So what did the author of the article want to say?

      which is a split in the three-party coalition. That a migration crisis will inevitably entail a government crisis. And that’s it.
      Quote: 123_123
      Germans should kiss a bunch of crooks in the ass and feed at the expense of their taxes?

      Yes. Otherwise, they will be accused of neo-Nazism and poked their nose into history. Of course, this will not come from Afro-Arab beggars who have not heard of the Third Reich.
      Quote: 123_123
      Among the crowd of illegal immigrants, not only Syrians, but also a bunch of Iraqis, Afghans and others

      Sudanese, Libyans, Malian, Tanzanians, Afghan Uzbeks .... Five Syrians out of a hundred migrants by force.
  19. -1
    14 November 2015 09: 46
    “Otherwise they will be accused of neo-Nazism and poked into history.” And who will blame them? Oh, you can't out loud! And then? Submarines were built for one country for free. And what does this country want for free?
    1. 0
      14 November 2015 10: 24
      Quote: Boris Zidkov
      And who will blame them?

      Yes all. And we including. Germans are constantly chasing revanchism chimeras laughing.
  20. +1
    14 November 2015 09: 59
    Germany Fuhrer is not enough - the rights of Zadornov ....
  21. +3
    14 November 2015 10: 08
    This Frau is the U.S. Extortion ...
    It is necessary to drive her with her stupidity, blindness and Russophobia in the neck !!!
    1. 0
      14 November 2015 10: 56
      The Americans planted her, the Americans removed her ...
  22. 0
    14 November 2015 10: 57
    [quote = severniy] [quote = Lance] What the hell is not a coup
    [quote] dirty games of those in power at the expense of tens of thousands of women and children. Their husbands and fathers are in Germany. These are the men alone moving .. [/ quote]
    Ah, poor lonely peasants ...
    To plow them ..

    Does it seem to anyone that everything in the article is upside down?
    Read disgusting .. [/ quote]
    Yeah. And I also liked the interview with such a “poor man” - you didn’t shelter us well .. Money, shelter, food, all this is certainly good, but we do not have enough sex. I am worn out from such rudeness .. About the lack of normal employment, mind you not a word .... [/

    They (Europeans) kissed all the arrivals on the 5th point over the past years. Humanism, la .... Along the way, rasshrenachivaya countries from which "grateful refugees" came to them or sailed. Leaving wives and children at home is normal. Then pull up, but not a question. Work, but not for .... We went not for that! Give me an allowance? And the work of euros for a couple of thousand. And don't forget the benefits too! You owe me! .... And you really owe me .... Who bombed Libya? Under Gaddafi, they did not leave for Europe! :)
  23. 0
    14 November 2015 21: 38
    Good fresh video on migrants

    I liked the koment under the video - when a refugee from Afghanistan said that he has 10 thousand dollars, the patriot was skewed and he began to twitch his eyes!

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