It's time to get Putin in trouble (US News and World Report, USA)

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Retired Army General Wesley Clark

The former commander-in-chief of the NATO forces in Europe says that the Obama administration should seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things and ignite the Ukrainian crisis.

Moscow is in suspense. It conducts an open military campaign in Syria and secret subversive actions in Ukraine, annexing the Crimean Peninsula last year. The Russian government is also facing growing international pressure, pondering how to respond to the explosion of a civilian jetliner full of rest, and the assumption that the Islamic State carried out the attack.

Now is the time to deliver unexpected troubles to Putin.

“If the United States is closely following Russian plans, they should understand that now is the perfect time to step up assistance to Ukraine in the field of economics and military training,” said retired army general Wesley Clark, who before his discharge from the army commanded NATO forces in Europe. “If we want to train the Ukrainian army and deliver defensive weapons to it, now is the time for that.”

Clark, who unsuccessfully tried to become a Democratic presidential candidate in 2004, very actively advocates that President Barack Obama put such a Ukrainian army weapon, for example, anti-tank missile systems, as well as intensified work on its training. So far, the Obama administration refuses to escalate tensions between the West and the East, which may also provoke new actions by separatist rebels in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, who enjoy the support of Russia.

It's time to get Putin in trouble (US News and World Report, USA)

Caricature of Wesley Clark during the 2004 presidential race of the year.

Ukraine, which was once the “breadbasket of the Soviet Union,” after its collapse, increasingly identifies itself with the West, which causes a strong reaction of discontent from Moscow, which it considers the threat of Kiev’s attempt to join the NATO alliance. When last year, as a result of a popular uprising, its pro-Russian president was expelled, Ukraine appealed to the West to supply military equipment, training and financial assistance to counter Russian aggression, while it is trying to curb corruption within the country that became widespread there. .

Some Obama advisers are aggressively offering him to supply modern weapons systems to Ukraine in addition to the non-lethal assistance that the United States currently provides.

“I personally belong to that camp, which believes that we must provide Ukraine with lethal military assistance, mainly anti-tank weapons,” said Evelyn Farkas, who held the position of Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Ukraine last Friday. Eurasia.


Evelyn Farkas ex-Assistant Minister of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.

Farkas told reporters on Friday that her departure was not related to political differences within the administration, but expressed concern about what the administration was not doing enough to contain Russia.

Obama gets conflicting advice on this issue. Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, commander of US forces in Europe, believes that Russia, with its decreasing budget, will not be able to expand military activity. But if in such conditions more weapons appear in the theater, the situation may become more dangerous.

“If the United States provides a lot of weapons, say, Ukraine, and this will lead to the death of a large number of Russian soldiers and the destruction of a large number of Russian equipment, the strategic calculations will not move in any positive direction,” he told US News in September. “If Putin starts to suffer great losses there, then I think he will redouble his efforts and we will get a serious escalation.”

“I do not mind that Ukrainian soldiers had the opportunity to destroy Russian Tanksbut we must not lose sight of the broader strategic picture. If we begin to supply offensive weapons, this will lead to serious contradictions with our allies, weakening the unity of the alliance against Russia, which is very important. "

But according to Clark, the needs of Putin's wars, Russia's internal problems and the ongoing investigation of the crash provide a good opportunity to take advantage of the moment.

“Why not seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things? - he says. - It is necessary to put it at a disadvantage, to outsmart it. To show that while he leads the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine. ”
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  1. +45
    13 November 2015 08: 16
    Yes, P.R.I.D.U.R.K.O.V. everywhere is enough, and even more so in America.
    1. +35
      13 November 2015 08: 30
      It's time to get Putin in trouble

      Let, provide, only do not bite your own tails, shakAlye !!
      1. +48
        13 November 2015 08: 37
        The actions of Russia forced the Western rulers to remove the mask.
        Now it has become clear to everyone in Russia what the West wants.
        There has never been a desire in the West to exist together with Russia.
        They do not want to live in peace and harmony.
        Stupid dogs like this general began to bark openly.
        They are trained precisely for this.
        Analytics is not his thing.
        Just a bullshit dog who wants to get one more bone from the owner.
        1. +7
          13 November 2015 09: 00
          better to shoot yourself right away .....!
          1. +11
            13 November 2015 09: 34
            We must put him at a disadvantage, outwit (Putin)

            Your trickster is with the little finger of a baby! But Putin will not fit in your mouth!
            (Forgive me for such vulgarity, but such morons want to answer that way, in an adult way!)
            1. +9
              13 November 2015 10: 20
              Theoretical, it is possible to implement a plan in which DLNR will suffer heavy losses. But, for this, the Americans need to act independently. If you spend time training the Ukrainian soldier, owning new equipment, then they will get nothing at the output. Over time, the possibility of the militia will grow in proportion to the Ukrainian army.

              if Putin begins to suffer heavy losses there, then I think he will double his efforts, and we will get a serious escalation

              It's like that. If the Americans get involved. That DLNR can suffer heavy losses. And then Putin will be forced to use a regular army with all its combat capabilities. And the Americans in this case are simply not able to win in Ukraine, just look at its geographical location. The Americans are certainly tough guys, but not in such numbers and not so close to the borders of Russia and its ally (Belarus).

              If we begin to supply offensive weapons, this will lead to serious contradictions with our allies, weakening the unity of the alliance against Russia, which is very important. "

              Correctly the uncle argues. Europeans need a war with Russia no more than a goat button accordion. In the event of hostilities in Ukraine, the overwhelming number of NATO allies will not support the United States.

              PS
              Perhaps with different losses, but in the end, the Russian Armed Forces will succeed in a hypothetical war with the United States in Ukraine, near its borders.
              Plus, after such aggression, Ukraine will cease to be “unplaced”. I mean that the puppet government will be dropped.
            2. +7
              13 November 2015 10: 21
              They usually say about nuts that he does not have everything at home. But this pretzel seems to have no one at home.
          2. +5
            13 November 2015 09: 51
            Quote: Alexey-74
            better to shoot yourself right away .....!

            Surrounded by such women as in the photo they can be understood, but not necessary!
            1. +3
              13 November 2015 10: 10
              Russians outwit? What are sick at all? They probably do not know who Suvorov, Ushakov or Kutuzov are, whose military science is passed down from generation to generation.
          3. +1
            13 November 2015 10: 26
            Quote: Alexey-74
            “Why not seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things? - he says. - It is necessary to put it at a disadvantage, to outsmart it. To show that while he leads the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine. ”


            Exactly this ( better to shoot yourself right away .....! they do. Outsiders are shitty! On the face of the crisis of the outlook of the "chosen". And attempts like their thoughts are visible in the form of shelling of Donbass !!!
        2. +3
          13 November 2015 09: 41
          Quote: Temples
          The actions of Russia forced the Western rulers to remove the mask.

          yes what, nafig masks? The habit of thinking with newspaper editorials and caricatures of Kukryniksov has a bad effect on the nervous system) One must be a very narrow-minded person to suspect the West of sympathy for Russia.
          Quote: Temples
          There has never been a desire in the West to exist together with Russia.

          Straight revelation laughing
          Quote: Temples
          They do not want to live in peace and harmony.

          Because we understand "peace and harmony" in different ways) For us, this is first of all - parity and cooperation, and for the States - diktat, domination and compulsion to obedience. And, in fact, they (the States) never hid it.
        3. +3
          13 November 2015 11: 12
          And what about her evil eyes?
          1. +10
            13 November 2015 11: 42
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And what about her evil eyes?
        4. +2
          13 November 2015 11: 30
          so Wesley Clark is just one of those who took off the mask from the west.
          Yes, he did not become a Russophile, but he speaks honestly about what he knows.
        5. 0
          13 November 2015 11: 37
          They simply don’t even realize that GDP can play on several fronts)
      2. +3
        13 November 2015 09: 14
        “If the United States provides a lot of weapons, say, Ukraine, and this will lead to the death of a large number of Russian soldiers and the destruction of a large number of Russian equipment, the strategic calculations will not move in any positive direction,” he told US News in September. “If Putin starts to suffer great losses there, then I think he will redouble his efforts and we will get a serious escalation.”

        Well, if it happens, then it’s not a sin to screw it up through the "supply channels" ... For a long time they didn’t get it from the tinsel ... they forgot how to think beyond the river, but it turned out to be not that wide. Watch carefully for information leaks from the Ministry of Defense, Banderlog ...
    2. +6
      13 November 2015 08: 35
      Hold your pocket wider Mr. Clark ...
    3. +15
      13 November 2015 08: 37
      Horror as you need now the eruption of Yellowstone. Guys, imagine if the USA suddenly died, how the world would change for the better, how the Isis would be crushed, how the Turks would shut up with the Arabs supplying these thugs, how would all the refugees be returned to their homeland, even forcibly. How it all depends on these fucking Americans with their fucking dollars and the economy imposed on the World with loan interest.
      1. +3
        13 November 2015 10: 21
        "Comrade Kurchatov, how are we doing with the strait between Alaska and Mexico !?"
        I.V. Stalin (It is a pity that a joke)!
    4. +15
      13 November 2015 08: 40
      No one doubts that the war in territory 404, the question is when? Outsmart a chess player who plays on several boards at once and drives opponents into a corner; on the alert whales are capable of any meanness.
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    6. +9
      13 November 2015 08: 47
      Hmm ... Well, the text of the general ... Song of V. Vysotsky "They scare them with plates ... They say mean ones fly ... Then your dogs bark ... Then the ruins say" The client is clearly FROM THERE !!! Ravings of a madman!!!
    7. +6
      13 November 2015 09: 04
      And they have a nest there! ..
      1. +4
        13 November 2015 09: 12
        and who there pulls his tongue ...?
    8. +7
      13 November 2015 09: 26
      Farkas has obvious signs of a Basedov disease in the photo ...
      1. MSL
        0
        13 November 2015 15: 55
        According to the photo, not only her. More than half of Western political leaders.
    9. +7
      13 November 2015 09: 28
      Wesley Clark is a war criminal! This Anglo-Saxon bombed Yugoslavia ... An ice ax would help him ...!
      1. +3
        13 November 2015 09: 44
        To show that while he is playing the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine. ”
        Well, judging by the events taking place in the world, the conclusion is as follows: Putin plays chess, and the west plays drafts! hi
      2. +1
        13 November 2015 10: 37
        Quote: Finches
        Wesley Clark is a war criminal! This Anglo-Saxon bombed Yugoslavia ... An ice ax would help him ...!

        Yes, here I am! I agree, my client. Come on guys, step aside so as not to splatter.
        Although, he is already nobody. Natural radioactive background. Samo will soon resolve.
    10. +6
      13 November 2015 09: 37
      Quote: avvg
      Yes, P.R.I.D.U.R.K.O.V. everywhere is enough, and even more so in America.

      And how can they outwit the president of Russia when all the plans are already blabbed out laughing I think they hope to frighten Putin, they say you won’t leave Syria, we’ll start bugging in Ukraine. Well, as they say, you’re worse. Clowns and only laughing
    11. +8
      13 November 2015 09: 47
      Quote: avvg
      Yes, P.R.I.D.U.R.K.O.V. everywhere is enough, and even more so in America.


      Clark is generally a rare dolboklyuy. He tried to force the British to attack our landing at Pristina airport. The British turned a finger at the temple and urgently reported to Washington that it was necessary to besiege this moron before he started the third world war. And after this incident, Clark was slowly removed from command.
      1. +3
        13 November 2015 10: 11
        Quote: yushch
        Clark is generally a rare dolboklyuy. He tried to force the British to attack our landing at Pristina airport. The British turned a finger at the temple and urgently reported to Washington that it was necessary to besiege this moron before he started the third world war. And after this incident, Clark was slowly removed from command.

        ----------------------
        He calls for it now. His sparrow’s brain does not understand that he is fomenting a new war in Europe, which Germany doesn’t need. Because then the spread will begin not only of the Arab, but also of the Ukrainian militants. Having smashed their foreheads on the eastern front, they will go to where it is easier, and this is the West ... But people like Clark don’t think about this, they think that there are dolphins in the world who will always fight for Omerigu. True Ukrainians still believe in the supply of javelins ...
    12. +4
      13 November 2015 09: 51
      Translated into Russian: in Matrasia there is a heated discussion about which next one I will stir up for Russia to stir up in response to its actions in Syria.

      By the way, about the birds: but do Mexican supporters of the return of former territories depressed by the USA need support?
      Or are Texas branch activists? belay request
    13. +2
      13 November 2015 10: 14
      Firstly, this is a country of rabble idiots! Got it already!
      And secondly, it can start arming the Indians on reservations, blacks in the ghettos, separatists in Texas, so that they can tackle their internal problems, rather than create world ones!
      Quote: avvg
      Firstly, these are countries of rabble idiots! Already got these idiots!
      And secondly, it can start arming the Indians on reservations, blacks in the ghettos, separatists in Texas, so that they can tackle their internal problems, rather than create world ones!
    14. +1
      13 November 2015 10: 48
      Like grown-up Uncles and Aunts?
      And the thinking of primitive people .. Sorry .. what else is there in the 21st century. Sorry !!!
    15. +1
      13 November 2015 12: 27
      Quote: avvg
      Yes, P.R.I.D.U.R.K.O.V. everywhere is enough, and even more so in America.


      As the unforgettable Faina Ranevskaya used to say: "Under the tail of a peacock you can see an ordinary chicken woman." bully
    16. 0
      13 November 2015 12: 32
      Hike this clever guy and on demobilization in the same helmet sleeps .. because "smart" thoughts and climb into the head laughing
  2. +19
    13 November 2015 08: 20
    In China, they say, don’t pull the whiskers of a sleeping tiger. There are too many politicians who care about this at the expense of Russophobic speeches. How would you not regret it later ...
    1. +12
      13 November 2015 08: 35
      Quote: Magic Archer
      In China, they say, don’t pull the whiskers of a sleeping tiger. There are too many politicians who care about this at the expense of Russophobic speeches. How would you not regret it later ...

      I spent my childhood in the working area of ​​a big city, which is not the most prosperous in terms of crime. AND I was taught from childhood - you need to be afraid of those who beat in silence. And as soon as the villain begins to threaten, jump, swing, everything, at that moment the fight is lost.

      Remember, for example, their own American cinema. The main character (good fight) holds a sweat with a scoundrel pistol (bad fight) and there are two options. Either he begins to say bad battle, what a bad and bad fight breaks out and brings a bunch of hemorrhoids to the battle, or the hood fight plays nobility, drops the weapon and starts to fight with the bad fight on his fists or knives.

      In both cases, the same error. "Shoot quickly and silently and save yourself from further hemorrhoids" - this is how we were taught.

      And why is America to blame for this PR? They are brought up like that. And Hollywood as well. No military victories, nothing to boast of. So you need to come up with them in the cinema, and then the generals will shout: "Let's go to war with Russia!"
    2. +5
      13 November 2015 08: 36
      But in Russia they say, do not wake a sleeping bear, or there is no mind count the cripple.
      1. 0
        13 November 2015 15: 58
        Is the bear still sleeping? They have been sticking a stick at the den for two years now. Bear woke up and already yawned (Donbass) and now he already roared (Syria). God save them all will come out.
        Quote: go21zd45few
        But in Russia they say, do not wake a sleeping bear, or there is no mind count the cripple.
    3. +3
      13 November 2015 08: 37
      Quote: Magic Archer
      don’t pull the tiger’s mustache.


      And everyone notices that the FORMER politicians are becoming the most noisy (like those who are "for us", but much more than those that are "against us").
      This is the information war and the formation of public opinion, and, of course, the desire to bring Russia out of balance ("you see, Russia will make mistakes in anger and mistakes!")
      1. +1
        13 November 2015 10: 45
        Quote: hydrox
        And everyone notices that the EXAMINATED politicians become the most vociferous

        I do not notice. They are all screamers. Just released in circulation allow themselves a harsher rhetoric with a single purpose - not to be in the garbage chute. The torture of oblivion is the worst for them)
    4. +2
      13 November 2015 09: 13
      Quote: Magic Archer
      In China, they say, don’t pull the mustache of a sleeping tiger.

      We can add that a bear in Taiga should not be woken up, especially in winter - it is fraught ...
  3. +11
    13 November 2015 08: 20
    Evelyn Farkas ex-Assistant Minister of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.
    In the photo, a man with obvious phobias.
    Such a view is not mentally healthy people.
    Are they probably specially cultivated and planted there at the Pentagon and the State Depot?

    I remembered a movie about Camo.
    The same pepper was.
    1. +8
      13 November 2015 08: 25
      In the photo, not only the psyche is broken - there are also organic disorders. Yes In general, a typical representative of a bazedovy disease.
      1. +3
        13 November 2015 08: 38
        with such helpers and enemies is not necessary
    2. +4
      13 November 2015 08: 44
      Quote: demo
      In the photo, a man with obvious phobias.
      Such a view is not mentally healthy people.


      It was she who could not get rid of the impression obtained after an accidental entry into the shower, where Obama instructed Clark.
  4. +5
    13 November 2015 08: 20
    the Obama administration should seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things and rekindle the Ukrainian crisis
    .I already wrote earlier - I think that’s why they are pulling 404 troops to the DPR and LPR.
  5. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 20
    the Obama administration should seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things and ignite the Ukrainian crisis.

    The fool does not understand that this fact was taken into account even before the entry of our videoconferencing system into Syria. Therefore, the incitement of the Ukrainian crisis will come sideways, first of all, for Ukraine itself and once again will show the inability of the United States to think strategically.
    1. +3
      13 November 2015 08: 29
      Yes, for Ukraine itself it ALREADY turned out on almost all sides, which is possible.
    2. +1
      13 November 2015 08: 29
      Yes, for Ukraine itself it ALREADY turned out on almost all sides, which is possible.
  6. +9
    13 November 2015 08: 24
    It must be put at a disadvantage, outwitted. To show that while he is playing the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine. ”

    My little daughter is trickier than them.
    1. +4
      13 November 2015 08: 41
      Quote: Vladimirets
      My little daughter is trickier than them.

      This multi-star, maybe, was once a cunning, only now in the place of cunning a notorious insanity has settled down. laughing
  7. +2
    13 November 2015 08: 24
    Pay attention to her eyes, well, clearly stoned ... maybe because now, already "former" ...
    1. +2
      13 November 2015 08: 38
      You obviously never smoked, everything would have been different, a smoked person, and it would have never occurred to you to prove something with foam at your mouth. There is clearly a prolonged sitting on antidepressants or other psychotropic drugs. The psyche in such cases is always very shaky, a person is very quick-tempered and is even aggressive in the intervals between the methods of wheels. Immediately after taking, on the contrary, it is depressed and apathetic to everything.
  8. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 25
    From the article: "I am not opposed to Ukrainian soldiers being able to destroy Russian tanks, but we must not lose sight of the larger strategic picture."
    Sounds like a toast. You may not mind, but who will listen to you? In order for Ukrainian soldiers to have such an opportunity, it is necessary, firstly, somewhere to find Russian tanks in Ukraine, secondly, to find Ukrainian soldiers near these tanks, and thirdly, how to get news from this parallel reality.
    P.S. In the photo there is an illustration for the song "Well, you are so terrible ..."
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    2. 0
      13 November 2015 16: 08
      P.S. In the photo there is an illustration for the song "Well, you are so terrible ..."

      And in general, all the ladies in politics are not beauties, to put it mildly. Compared to them, our Matvienko is "Mrs. Mira".
  9. +2
    13 November 2015 08: 26
    Somehow, all these -politiks finely swim. Everything is somehow straightforward. Forgot to think big.
  10. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 26
    Now is the time to deliver unexpected troubles to Putin.
    Yes, deliver it to Putin so that the pestilence there begins - that’s the problem Putin will have about how to bury you all ....
  11. +2
    13 November 2015 08: 27
    Oh, I can’t, it’s necessary to outwit Putin. Is it Darkest to outsmart? Ostap Ibragimych with delusions of grandeur was found, will pull the boat and will think that he is cunning, they are not capable of more.
  12. +1
    13 November 2015 08: 28
    What is needed in order to "cool" the hot heads of the mattress? I think it's a sniper bullet.
  13. +5
    13 November 2015 08: 32
    All these thinkers do not understand what Putin, against whom they are going to do something all the time, has voted for and continues to support more than 85% of the country's population, which means that they are going to fight the Russian population, which in turn fully supports our foreign policy. then the second moment. Russia now has nothing to fear, because no one will confront us anywhere, because the West has no chance. They understand this and try to beat their heels in the chest. As they say there was a long way to the top of Olympus, yes now it’s fast and painful to fall. And Ukraine itself will be in our hands naked and impoverished. Although this would not be the best option .. it’s a retribution for our inaction for 25 years.
  14. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 33
    Moscow is in tension. She is conducting an open military campaign in Syria and covert subversive activities in Ukraine, annexing the Crimean Peninsula last year.
    The actions are so secret that all the special services of the evil empire still can not provide any evidence of these actions. Invisibility caps in action.
  15. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 34
    “I personally belong to that camp, which believes that we should provide Ukraine with lethal military assistance, mainly anti-tank weapons”
    Show that while he is playing the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine
    Why not help Texas and other states wanting to secede from the United States. Also a weapon. This will be fair.
    1. +1
      13 November 2015 08: 45
      Quote: EvgNik
      Why not help Texas and other states wanting to secede from the United States. Also a weapon. This will be fair.

      Oh, Texas is armed to the teeth, I think they have everything they need. And separatist sentiments also be healthy, the federal government is only in Austin.
    2. 0
      13 November 2015 08: 56
      Out of your dimensionless pocket, or what?
      1. 0
        13 November 2015 09: 10
        Quote: Bison
        Out of your dimensionless pocket, or what?

        Firstly, not you, but you, because we did not drink to the Brudershaft.
        People they are not poor all the same Yankees, free sale of weapons, if you want you can get everything. Read here- http: //xn--80aa2bkafhg.xn--p1ai/article.php? Nid = 7871.
        1. -2
          13 November 2015 09: 33
          Pay attention to whom the message is addressed!
  16. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 34
    Well, well, you taught Georgians the same thing to fight, we wish you the same luck this time too. ((((((((((((( negative
  17. +3
    13 November 2015 08: 36
    The Yankees also read "Censor" during the campaign ...
  18. +3
    13 November 2015 08: 37
    In the queue "friends" in the queue ... do not create panic, the missiles will go to everyone!
  19. +3
    13 November 2015 08: 37
    Evelyn Farkas, honey, Jewelin and Tampax are not the same thing. They have only one thing in common, and here and there the "charge" is in the tube. And if you think that with the help of a "magic" tube to a problem place you can solve the problem, then you are mistaken. In this case, problems will only be added.
  20. +3
    13 November 2015 08: 40
    Why not take advantage of the moment when Putin’s attention is focused on other things?
    Outwit, you say. But on the tricky ... there is always ... with a screw. According to the Russian proverb. You will not notice how you find yourself in an uncomfortable position - get a pretty penny through the little bench. We do not need rude. We ourselves are rude.
  21. +2
    13 November 2015 08: 42
    Naive fools are these American generals. So far it has not come to mind that Putin thinks globally and not unidirectionally
  22. +1
    13 November 2015 08: 43
    "Who gave the children gunpowder?" (C). From an old movie about sailors. Naive! laughing
  23. +2
    13 November 2015 08: 47
    Joking, joking, but they’re preparing a toad to Donbass. I think it’ll start soon.
  24. +2
    13 November 2015 08: 48
    For a long time, the United States did not get a snot. And then Putin will quickly provide you with another political loss.
  25. cap
    +3
    13 November 2015 08: 49
    “I personally belong to the camp, which believes that we should provide Ukraine with lethal military assistance, mainly anti-tank weapons,” said Evelyn Farkas, who until last Friday served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.
    The camp indicated, and in which hut?
  26. +1
    13 November 2015 08: 51
    They forget .. that Russians live in UKRAINE! This is not Afghanistan, etc.
    As if these partners didn’t have to blow their asses from Ukraine!
  27. +1
    13 November 2015 08: 53
    It must be put at a disadvantage, outwitted. To show that while he is playing the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine. ”


    Gamblers! The price of their games is a thousand lives! They would arrange such games in the USA themselves!
  28. +1
    13 November 2015 08: 55
    Marazamatiki are terrible fool
  29. +4
    13 November 2015 08: 56
    If this adherent of circus art looked beyond his nose, then after easy conclusions he could assume that, according to the old Ukrainian tradition of sharing weapons with the militias, as well as a pathological shortage of cash in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, all these ATGMs, etc. for US locations. Incl. and in Syria. Yes, and Russia, I believe, will not ignore this clearly hostile step. We, too, if necessary, we can shit robust. (Vietnam is the most striking example). Putting something quietly to someone is a simple matter. So the phrase "Now is the time to bring unexpected trouble to Putin" sounds like "It's time to piss off grandmother - to freeze your ears."
  30. +1
    13 November 2015 08: 57
    third victorious Easter - May 01, 2016
  31. sl3
    +2
    13 November 2015 08: 59
    The dirty trickster. How would you do something nasty. Is it weak in the open?
  32. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 02
    Now it’s clear what the West wants.

    I really want something else: - I really want them to stand "cancer" in front of Russia!
    Because - for "much" must!
    But according to Clark, the needs of Putin's wars, Russia's internal problems and the ongoing investigation of the crash provide a good opportunity to take advantage of the moment.


    Oh you bastard, scum1
    Tear off your epaulettes, gon.don, mraaaaaaazaz!
    Shoot quickly and silently and rid yourself of further hemorrhoids "- that's how we were taught.


    Alexei! Good all!
    We were taught that way too (maybe we had the same "Teachers" ?!)
    "Did it quietly, quietly left" is our motto!
    Today this motto has been put into practice!
  33. Don
    +6
    13 November 2015 09: 03
    I read like jingoistic patriots and couch marshals on this forum shouting "let them try, let them supply, yes we are to him, yes we are them ...". But reality looks a little different. If something happens, it will not be the Americans or even the Europeans who will go on the offensive in the Donbass, but the duped RUSSIAN (Ukrainian) guys! And they will kill RUSSIANS, including Russians! Whatever you say, but this war is fratricidal. And this inadequate general says correctly - this is not theirs, but our huge problem and headache. They will definitely not give us an amicable solution to the Ukrainian problem (the Minsk Agreements), and a military solution will lead to a confrontation with NATO, which will require huge sacrifices, funds, extreme stress on the state apparatus, a violation of our usual normal life for a long time, perhaps for decades. Most of you are not ready for this. So let's at least change this not smart tone when discussing this problem, but try to reason sensibly, like our leadership.
    1. +3
      13 November 2015 09: 21
      So what do you suggest? I want to object to you, the general is quite adequate, he expresses the opinion of a huge army of Western politicians, who think that it’s time to fall on Russia with all the overseas force, they want to, but they are also pricked, they suddenly arise in their BOURGEONISE because of their bulk on Russia some inconvenience. I believe that it is now required of us to transfer our entire life to war footing, which is fraught with restrictions in the public sphere and deprivation for the people, because here you are right, they will not leave us behind. Only here is no translation visible, neither in the public (liberal pacifists still chatter that they are being told), nor in the economic sphere. No matter how the option was repeated on June 22.
  34. +2
    13 November 2015 09: 08
    I hope these are just empty words and the Pentagon is smart enough not to kindle the fire of war!
    1. +1
      13 November 2015 09: 58
      I think that it will not be the Pentagon who will "kindle the fire of war", since the war will not be the same as it was 70 years ago. I don’t want to think for the CIA, but why shouldn't some single unknown Russian-made aircraft bomb some European city. What's going up here. Let's say they impose an embargo on the export of Russian oil. as they have already done with Iran. What will our government do with its commitment to the western model of the economy? Changing the model will not work quickly, but they talk about the dollar exchange rate, but the dollars will not be found.
  35. 0
    13 November 2015 09: 08
    "To show that while he is playing a game for Syria in the West, we are playing a game for the West in Ukraine."

    This geek of the human race considers the GAME all that is happening! PLAY !!! How sometimes I want that if not in our world, then at least in the other world, in fact, there was a court of God
  36. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 09
    Quote: avvg
    “Why not seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things? - he says. - It is necessary to put it at a disadvantage, to outsmart it. To show that while he leads the game for Syria in the West, we are playing the game for the West in Ukraine. ”

    wassat belay laughing truth! and so we will tell all this to our media, let them tell everyone what we (mattresses) are super-duper! And most importantly in Russia no one will know about it! No. Russians do not know how to read, did not see TVs rejoicing, and indeed they have everything in the war! feel Some in Syria, others on tanks in Dill! No one even guesses that we (mattresses) are so clever as the ducks of all re-cheat and help the dill people! wassat fool And most importantly, the war is not in our territory ..! WHAT THE TRUTH IS THE COUNTRY OF FOOLS ?! fool In vain Columbus or whoever was there actually discovered them ... negative All! We looked, you can close it back! am
  37. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 18
    if the pupil is completely visible and the squirrel around the pupil is visible, then the person - PSIH in one form or another is the opinion of my godfather (psychiatrist under the Union, 79 years old)
  38. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 18
    Oh look, the lame ducks quacked))
  39. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 19
    I finished well - "we are playing a GAME for the West in Ukraine." Playful! Place playful in a sandpit or supervised by a medical staff.
  40. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 22
    just one rocket in Yelluston volcano and ALL - Columbus opened Putin closed wink
  41. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 23
    Not everything is clear with the biography of Farkas. Opponent of Russia, this is how many "our" media describe it.
    Посмотрел http://www.liveinternet.ru/tags/%DD%E2%E5%EB%E8%ED+%D4%E0%F0%EA%E0%F1/
    There are several quotes from this Farkas, and to my amazement I read -
    "Russia has every right to conduct military strikes on the territory of Turkey, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and any other country where ISIS terrorist groups are located, as this does not contradict international law," said Evelyn, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia Farkas on the air of the American edition of the BBC radio station.

    “The situation is that, in full accordance with international law, any country that has declared war has the right to end it where the threat came from and is coming from those forces who declared the war. As far as we know, ISIS and certain representatives of Saudi Arabia called for to jihad against Russia, that is, in essence, they declared war. ”Very short-sighted calls.

    After the start of the Russian military operation, a significant number of ISIS fighters retreated to the territory of Turkey and other neighboring states, but mainly to the territory of Turkey. If the states where the ISIS terrorist groups "hid" do not take any action to destroy or neutralize them, then according to international law, Russia has every right to such actions, and even without notice to the authorities of that countrywho "sheltered" this threat. And everything will fully comply with international laws and UN resolutions. "- says a high-ranking Pentagon spokeswoman

    Perhaps she was fired precisely for this point of view?
  42. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 30
    We already see the actual defeat and collapse of the SGA policy in the Middle East.
    Watching these statements in Ukraine, you can see that the action plan for losing in this area is not even considered by the SGA administration) And given the new capabilities of the Russian Armed Forces, any attempts to solve the crisis by military means will lead to defeat!
  43. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 32
    They have a tantrum. Something is going wrong. And our work is going on, systematic and inevitable. The main thing is that our elite would cram, and we will help as much as we can.
    1. +1
      13 November 2015 09: 41
      The world was unlucky, a rare selection of fools in the civilian ranks. Moreover, neither they themselves nor their children will go to die.
  44. 0
    13 November 2015 09: 32
    The former NATO Allied Commander Europe says: "Now is the time to give Putin some unexpected trouble."

    For even greater surprise, you still need to specify the date and time. laughing
  45. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 34
    Quote: avvg
    Farkas told reporters on Friday that her departure was not related to political differences within the administration, but expressed concern about what the administration was not doing enough to contain Russia.

    This monster is very much like our talented and now deceased homosexual A.Nuriev, if you imagine her without hair bully
  46. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 37
    ... we must provide Ukraine with lethal military assistance .... ",


    After the "lethal help", as I understand it, the patient will no longer even breathe.
  47. +2
    13 November 2015 09: 37
    Apparently calibers and bubbles do not teach them anything.
    1. 0
      13 November 2015 11: 38
      They just have not tried them on their filthy skin yet.
  48. +1
    13 November 2015 09: 38
    American citizens are widely represented in almost all countries, unlike the Russians. If the confrontation begins, they will be very vulnerable. They believe that capturing Bout, Yaroshenko, putting them in prison, they will not receive an adequate response.
  49. bad
    +1
    13 November 2015 09: 39
    Quote: BMP-2
    In the photo, not only the psyche is broken - there are also organic disorders. Yes In general, a typical representative of a bazedovy disease.
    ... yeah .. from what incubator do they pull them out? .. one worse than the other ..
    1. +1
      13 November 2015 10: 46
      Elementaryly, even in the Middle Ages, arrogant Saxons and other Europoids massively burned, drowned, hung all their beautiful women under the guise of witches and witches! There were only notorious, evil crocodiles and lesbians!
  50. +3
    13 November 2015 09: 44
    Once I had a flash of lightning on my fly, sorry for intimate details, but then I realized what an unexpected nuisance is! I'm not stupid, and yet, I do not understand how this Amer will do something similar with Volodya? Got it - to distract attention, Got it, put a weapon for the Hoykhlans, but how he would make an unexpected trouble, I did not understand! Americans have been diverting attention and delivering weapons for decades, so why the unexpected ?! Obama on the cover of the magazine for fagots? So this is his problem, who unzips his fly? And Volodya has to do with it ?! I didn’t understand ...
    1. 0
      13 November 2015 11: 41
      Quote: Arjuna
      why is it unexpected ?! Obama on the cover of the magazine for fagots?


      Even this, khe-khe, was not unexpected ...
  51. +2
    13 November 2015 09: 52
    Hello dear!
    The Russians have a wonderful saying: “Don’t dig for your neighbor, you’ll get there yourself.”
    In my opinion, the Americans have been in this mess with feces for a long time. Otherwise they wouldn’t stink like that.
  52. +2
    13 November 2015 09: 54
    Of course they forgot to ask Europe. all the delights of being a slave.
    “two boyars meet, one says to the other, look, my slave is about to dive in for the sake of laughter. And the slave stands there, knows that it will stink and it’s not pleasant and he can’t say anything.” This may not be a completely correct comparison, but this is how I see the situation between a slave and a master.
  53. +1
    13 November 2015 10: 08
    Now is the time to deliver unexpected troubles to Putin. Wesley Clark


    Be careful, Clark, according to the good old tradition, messengers who deliver bad news (unexpected troubles) are executed.
  54. +2
    13 November 2015 10: 20
    Or maybe we should add trouble to Washington? Isn’t it time for him to answer for the terrorist attacks he organized on September 11, 2001 in New York? And for the Japanese Fukushima, when the planet was on the verge of nuclear
    cataclysm caused by the USA? She also needs to answer for the “missing” Boeing 777
    Malaysia Airlines on March 8, 2014, which they shot down by mistake as it flew over their top-secret Diego Garcia military base. Let the U.S.
    will also be responsible for a scam on a global scale, when they declared that their astronauts
    were on the Moon. The USA has NEVER been to the Moon, this has been scientifically proven. In order to protect astronauts from cosmic radiation, they need a crew capsule made of lead, weighing almost 400 tons. And there is also a lot that says about this scam, such as lunar soil, which was brought from the Moon, but no one has ever seen it. And that the documents,
    video documents, etc. were stolen from US intelligence services. And who will believe it?
    ....And who will hold accountable for the massacre in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine due to Washington? The whole world knows about this, but they keep a low profile. For some reason, we are afraid to tell the truth
    to our “Colleagues” and “Partners”, but they throw mud and slop at us, and
    They don’t give a damn about the village, two about the village. We will always be aggressors and enemies in their face, and they won’t stop spitting and kicking at us until they receive a worthy answer in their own “style.”
    1. 0
      13 November 2015 11: 31
      Wedge with wedge. Americans really like to pry into other people’s affairs, organize Maidans, and revolutions. It would be good for the world if blacks, Latinos, and Indians fought against whites. So that the whole world to the ground. Wishing people war is bad, but these Americans are too much foul. They'll take their time, maybe then they'll have less of these Clarks.
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  55. +2
    13 November 2015 10: 30
    It is useless to treat these degenerates, medicine is powerless - only to euthanize fool
  56. +1
    13 November 2015 10: 34
    An aggressive policy must be pursued towards the United States, aimed at destabilizing both the economic and political situation within the states themselves. This is extremely difficult to do. Many of our citizens sympathize with the American way of life, falsely believing that the United States is the center of democracy and a fair capitalist economy. Today's mentality of many Russian people is formed in such a way that for the sake of momentary earthly blessings, they are ready to sacrifice the independence of the country, the greatness of the nation, and forget the glorious past of our ancestors. We see an example of such a scenario in Ukraine. The United States has conducted and will continue to conduct subversive activities, using the narrow-minded leaders of the non-systemic opposition, as well as the people's dissatisfaction with significantly worsened social conditions. To prevent such a scenario, the first thing to do is to strengthen anti-American propaganda. We need to be realistic and understand that the Americans will go to great lengths to ensure that Russia repeats the fate of the USSR
  57. +1
    13 November 2015 10: 46
    At present, it is very difficult to defeat Russia, and all sane Western politicians understand this. Unfortunately, there are so many evil spirits within our country that even cops are voluntarily recruited by the CIA. The corrupt bureaucracy, liberals of all stripes from complete idiots to outright traitors and the Comrador bourgeoisie are the main enemies; they will be the first, if the opportunity arises, to stick a knife in the back and surrender the state. The history of Russia knows such examples.
  58. cap
    0
    13 November 2015 10: 57
    Farkas told reporters Friday that her departure had nothing to do with political differences within the administration, but expressed concern that the administration was not doing enough to contain Russia.
    That is, she explained that she remained in the camp, but was transferred from the barracks to the hospital for violating the rules and criticizing the address of the supervisor.
  59. +1
    13 November 2015 11: 00
    Ukraine, historically, one might say, has been accustomed to freebies since childhood, so I’m not against it, let the Yankees subsidize the independent economy, the crests will swallow everything, they won’t even choke, but they will never become richer, much less smarter, the experience of the Russian Empire, and then the USSR a clear confirmation that at one time so much was invested in Ukraine that others could not even dream of, but the result is obvious, everything was gobbled up, stolen, sold and destroyed...
  60. 0
    13 November 2015 11: 08
    Why are they all goggle-eyed? They want to show that the brains are there and come out through the eyes? Damn imbeciles.....
  61. 0
    13 November 2015 11: 13
    Evelyn Farkas ex-Assistant Minister of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.



    And this one there, her eyes bugged out, as if she had a brain tumor. wassat
  62. +1
    13 November 2015 11: 27
    Let's remember August 2008, how did the conflict end?
    Despite the fact that after that conflict we made many conclusions and made adjustments to our actions, since that time the army has undergone major changes both in terms of weapons and personnel.
    So the outbreak of a conflict in Ukraine will only lead to Kyiv completely losing the country’s sovereignty and losing a large number of personnel, equipment, and infrastructure.
    Bottom line: unleashing a conflict in Ukraine is reckless, stupid, and fruitless.
  63. +1
    13 November 2015 11: 31
    How good it is to discuss whether to give weapons or not. How good it is to reason and discuss this or that, knowing that a bomb will not fall on your house, that you are safe and nothing threatens you personally. I wonder how all these “hawks” would behave in a situation that was exactly the opposite? Would they remain “hawks” or would they turn into “wet hens” or destitute mongrels running through their native ashes and calling for their dead children and parents? When the war does not come to your house, you are always so brave! The stars and stripes...
  64. 0
    13 November 2015 11: 35
    They scared the hedgehog with their bare ass! One more trouble, one less - this is no longer important. But it’s time for the frostbitten Yankees to stop waking up Likho while it’s quiet. Otherwise, the same thing could happen to the fascist government and its troops in Ukraine as with ISIS in Syria. Moreover, you don’t need to fly far... This will be an economy class promotion.
  65. +1
    13 November 2015 11: 38
    I am not against the fact that the Afghan Mujahideen would have the opportunity to shoot down American and NATO planes and helicopters in general.
  66. +1
    13 November 2015 11: 40
    "the Obama administration should seize the moment when Putin’s attention is riveted on other things and rekindle the Ukrainian crisis"...


    Don’t worry, general, Putin’s attention will be enough for both Syria and Ukraine, and the United States certainly does not leave the zone of his strict control...
  67. 0
    13 November 2015 11: 44
    "When last year, as a result of a popular uprising, she was expelled pro-Russian the president"...

    Hm... Yanyk is a pro-Russian president??? If this were so, then what happened would not have happened...
  68. 0
    13 November 2015 12: 07
    Wesley Krark: With Putin's attention elsewhere, and fueling the Ukrainian crisis...

    Come on guys, this is our plan: the “white exceptionalists” together with the “Svidomo Banderlogs” are starting and THEY LOSE!
    What about outsmarting PUTIN?
    An expert in political blackmail - “Berez”, a multi-talenter, tried to weave something against RUSSIA, and so he wove himself a wooden pea coat.
    Conclusion: for many centuries, the history of RUSSIA has not taught its enemies anything!
  69. 0
    13 November 2015 12: 29
    But if more weapons appear in the theater under such conditions, the situation could become more dangerous.

    Sometimes generals have brains too. And in response to the Javelins, Pinocchio may appear.
  70. +1
    13 November 2015 12: 38
    I won’t talk about the military component, let’s go back to what was said earlier, the West has practically no arguments against RUSSIA, especially military ones and the actions in Syria confirm this, ideological, etc., the only argument is internal politics, but here, no matter how much we want, they are right. In domestic politics, in particular in the economy, there is a failure, as a result of incompetent policies and our supreme power and government and, first of all, stupid adherence to the same rotten, rotten Western economy and politics, and until the AUTHORITY finds the strength to move away from such a policy and begins to impose In general, there is a normal order in the country, these Western buggers will constantly peck at us, a state cannot be strong without a strong domestic policy and a strong foreign policy CANNOT BE, and if we proceed from the current situation, then our authorities do not see all this or do not want to see that It’s just regrettable. Although they will peck at us, water us, provoke us, whether we will be weak or strong, then it is better to be strong.
  71. +1
    13 November 2015 13: 06
    You are our concerned...
  72. 0
    13 November 2015 13: 54
    This is about this Wesley Clark - they said in my opinion - that he (Clark) has a Warhead instead of a Head.
  73. 0
    13 November 2015 14: 33
    "outwit Putin" .... Try it.
  74. 0
    13 November 2015 18: 18
    And what kind of creature is this, Evelyn Farkas, that threatens the Russian President?!. - Wait, I’ll look through the political microscope. - I don’t see anything! - even less political germs!!
  75. 0
    13 November 2015 18: 22
    "It's time to give Putin some trouble (US News and World Report, USA)"
    - Scarecrow, don’t be embarrassed! Otherwise, “the women from the bathhouse will throw basins at you”!
  76. 0
    21 November 2015 21: 47
    "jackal" howls the caravan is moving
    In our case, it rearms and slowly regains lost positions.
    and howl because they can’t do anything,
    and let him hang himself out of anger, the world will become cleaner

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