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News of Kharkov SE "Plant named after Malyshev"

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To the only production plant in Ukraine tanks close attention was always riveted. Over the years of independence, the enterprise had ups, downs and even a crisis, when the management planned to divide it into separate legal entities. Recently, the Malyshev plant celebrated its 120th anniversary. About what are the plans of the enterprise, told "SQ" at the factory.


News of Kharkov SE "Plant named after Malyshev"

Assembly shop GP "Plant them. Malyshev" (Kharkiv), 2014 year (c) Censor. NO

- Is the factory provided with orders?

The head of the production department of the State Enterprise "Malyshev Plant" Alexander Pashchenko:

“The company has orders for 5 years ahead. First of all, we are talking about the tank "Oplot". The Ministry of Defense actively supports the production of this combat vehicle. The following year, it was decided to arm the Ukrainian army with dozens of such tanks.

"Oplot" is being tested in Pakistan, where it is tested for accuracy, quality of fire and performance in the desert. I would note that Oplot is capable of working at any thermal mode possible within our planet, therefore it shows excellent results in comparison with the Chinese colleague. Our chances are increasing, and we hope to conclude a contract with the Pakistani Armed Forces for the supply of 300 tanks, which will provide the factory with work.

Let me remind you that under a contract with Thailand 10 tanks "Oplot" were delivered to this country. By the end of the year we will ship 5 more, and in total we have to supply 39 machines.

We are working on a contract with Ethiopia, which is interested in the products of the plant.

And about. Commercial Director of the plant Dmitry Kolesnikov:

- The plant is also engaged in the manufacture of engine compartments (MTO) for armored vehicles. Now we produce 7 kits monthly, but we plan to increase production to 10 MTO per month in the near future. MTO orders will give the load to both the aggregate and the main plant, creating a “break-even point”.

The unique engines for MTO are made only by the Aggregate Plant named after Malyshev. Their advantage is that they can run on any fuel and can withstand any thermal stress. Even the Chinese were not able to reproduce the "Malyshev" engine and MTO as a whole. Therefore, this direction has very big prospects.

Another direction - the production of lightly armored vehicles. Agreements between Morozov’s Kharkiv Design Bureau for Mechanical Engineering and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine for the supply of components for the BTR-3, BTR-4, BTR-4Е and the Dozor machine are being prepared for conclusion.

One contract is already being implemented and the next one for the restoration and repair of military special equipment Bulat for the needs of our army in the ATO zone is being prepared for conclusion.

- The plant has quite large-scale plans for the Oplot tank. What makes it so good that it is popular in the market, where a dozen global corporations work?

And about. Commercial Director of the plant Dmitry Kolesnikov:

- T-84U tank "Oplot" is the pride of the plant, its business card of recent years, one of the best tanks in the world today. Its tactical and technical characteristics are comparable with Western models, and even surpass them in some parameters: in driving performance, protection, and fire control system. In the "Oplot" implemented all modern requirements for armored vehicles. At the same time, the car is almost twice cheaper than its foreign competitors, which means that for this reason it is interesting for potential buyers.

- Does the plant have civil orders?

And about. Commercial Director of the plant Dmitry Kolesnikov:

- The company manufactures engines and spare parts for diesel locomotives, mainly for neighboring countries and Ukraine. Old Soviet and post-Soviet diesel locomotives are gradually being replaced by more modern counterparts, but even with this in mind, the plant has been working in this direction for at least five to seven years to come. Civil orders may be in other areas, but the defense theme will remain a priority for the plant.

- Since Soviet times, the plant has got bulky infrastructure and high overhead costs, which reduce the profitability of production. Did you solve this problem?

And about. General Director of the State Enterprise "Plant named after Malyshev" Alexander Khlan:

- The plant near 20 has long-term contracts and in the near future there will be even more. They will allow the enterprise to work with profit. The organization of labor continues to be improved, which will make it possible to switch to full self-sufficiency. Of great importance is the support of "Ukroboronprom". We firmly know that after shipment of products we will receive payment, which means we will pay wages and make other necessary payments. The stability of the payment of completed orders this year allowed to restore equipment, improve working conditions in the shops and regularly pay salaries.

The plant has practically no wage arrears, a part of the debt of previous years is paid off monthly. Experts in their field can earn from 8 000 UAH. and above, the average salary at the enterprise is 4600 UAH.

- What machines are you planning to restore in the near future?

The head of the production department of the State Enterprise "Malyshev Plant" Alexander Pashchenko:

- In the service of the chief engineer of the plant, we developed a schedule for the restoration and technical re-equipment of the enterprise. First of all, it is the repair of heavy equipment, special CNC machines. This year, the steel mill No. XXUMX was put into operation after almost two years of inactivity; test melts were made in the iron workshop No. XXUMX.

Complete the upgrade is expected for 2016 year. First, within three months, we will repair the existing machines, and then we will start purchasing new ones. The new equipment will work through 6-9 months after the purchase (this is the exact time when the machine was made to order). So next year can be called the year of renewal and modernization of the entire technical park of the plant.

The plans include the development of social programs and the improvement of working conditions in workshops. Scheduled phased start heating in a number of rooms.

- The factory announced recruitment. How many workers are you planning to hire?

The head of the production department of the State Enterprise "Malyshev Plant" Alexander Pashchenko:

- The plant has the opportunity to invite 1 - 1,5 thousand people to work. Work so much that is enough for everyone. The company is interested in experienced skilled workers. But even if there is no experience, a person will be trained in a profession for two months. The plant invites the operators of CNC machines, programmers, engineers. Employed daily by 10 people and more. But the stock of vacancies is still great.

Today, the company rests on the people of the older generation, who gave him more than a dozen years of their lives. They want and can pass on their experience to the young.

As a large state-owned enterprise, the plant provides significant social benefits that are also interesting for young people. It is planned to repair the old and build new housing, two houses have already been built, and one entrance to the settlement from the developer has been allocated. For the purchase of housing issue a loan that must be paid for 25 years. I note that now there are few enterprises in Ukraine with such opportunities.
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  1. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 15 November 2015 13: 24 New
    25
    One plant? All the Ukrop Panzerwaffe? And given that many vehicles are exported, their armed forces have to be content with "scraps" ...
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 15 November 2015 13: 26 New
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      Full of vacancies and a good salary ... It is expected to complete the modernization during 2016. Tale for the Ruins.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 15 November 2015 13: 59 New
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        Quote: oleg-gr
        Full of vacancies and a good salary ... It is expected to complete the modernization during 2016. Tale for the Ruins.

        The fairy tale is not a fairy tale, only tanks collected in Kharkov by Russian hands will kill Russian people in LDNR, such a fairy tale has come true.
        1. Temples
          Temples 15 November 2015 15: 17 New
          16
          The weapons used by dill are almost all collected by Russian hands.
          Not in this case.
          The question is who is fighting with these weapons and against whom?

          Those who are at war with us need to be buried in the ground.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 November 2015 15: 44 New
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            Quote: Temples
            The question is who is fighting with these weapons and against whom?

            Russians and are fighting against Russians. Do not call them, but they remain Russian, wherever they were born.
            1. sergv
              sergv 15 November 2015 16: 13 New
              +4
              that’s the point, and so that they continue to fight backstage is ready to print the extra candy wrappers and unofficially cast into Ukraine, so that everything continues with even greater force - with already new tanks
              1. Talgat
                Talgat 15 November 2015 16: 44 New
                17
                sadly. the reign of the empire of the sea - amers and arrogant Saxons

                Enemies were able to pit against each other 2 the most significant parts of the USSR - the Russian Federation and Ukraine

                Now all hope is for the eastern parts of the USSR - and Central Asia. The diplomatic role of Kazakhstan is important here - not to alienate neighbors, but, on the contrary, to attract them to the integration process. Kazakhstan is the initiator of this. The first success is Kyrgyzstan, yes, the country is poor, but it is better to spend money on it than tomorrow for a war.

                Eurasia is now in decline - it will still not recover from the collapse of the last empire of the USSR. And the EAU is still a "child" and who is really integrating only 3 republics of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus. Kyrgyzstan and Armenians will join like - but not from a good life

                On the other hand, there were many such periods, and each time Eurasia was revived even stronger and more powerful - like the Phoenix bird from the ashes, it is not for nothing that our main fund was named Samruk - (Phoenix). The Eurasian idea is the strongest and most correct - and does not need proof - history itself has proved it many times.

                You can’t even worry about temporary weakness, the peoples of Eurasia will inevitably unite in a new union of Orthodox and steppes - and neither the West nor Europe or China will be able to do anything with this new great alliance. The times of Attila and Stalin, the Golden Horde and tsarist Russia, the USSR and Khan Khubilai will return - and the Japanese will still regret that they even stuttered about the Kuril Islands
            2. Fat
              Fat 15 November 2015 17: 11 New
              +8
              you are mistaken, they are no longer Russian and not even Slavs. they are PROTOCRA
            3. Fat
              Fat 15 November 2015 17: 14 New
              +1
              you are mistaken. they are not Russian and not even Slavs. they are PROTOCRA
          2. Sterlya
            Sterlya 15 November 2015 18: 32 New
            +7
            maybe well him on .. x talk about these? I don’t want to hear. Should, in my opinion, these are only special services to deal with, Why do we need to wrestle our nerves again. The population of Russia is already not large, and unemployment. And here millions of households work in normal positions, the whole north is teeming with them, the currency is being withdrawn to Utopia, and at the same time they are not shy about hating Russia
            1. Bradypodidae
              Bradypodidae 15 November 2015 20: 08 New
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              Quote: Sterlya
              maybe well him on .. x talk about these? I don’t want to hear. Should, in my opinion, these are only special services to deal with, Why do we need to wrestle our nerves again. The population of Russia is already not large, and unemployment. And here millions of households work in normal positions, the whole north is teeming with them, the currency is being withdrawn to Utopia, and at the same time they are not shy about hating Russia

              The North is no longer teeming with Ukrainians, much less normal posts. Chechens get normal posts (they'll get the whole teip, but they will put their own people in the post), but the Tajiks (quality drugs) killed the rough work. So it was in the CIS already in 2002. Not I think that since then something has changed.
              1. Riv
                Riv 15 November 2015 22: 13 New
                +3
                You count: how many of those Chechens. Yes, to recruit superiors in one area - and that is not enough, even if all teips announce a set. And about the Tajiks - someone told you a fairy tale. Well, how many are there in Russia? Even if half a million arrives, well, they won’t be able to take all the posts of janitors and plumbers.
                Well, aren't Ukrainians a gullible people? They will be told everything they are told. :)))
                1. Bradypodidae
                  Bradypodidae 15 November 2015 22: 34 New
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                  Quote: Riv
                  You count: how many of those Chechens. Yes, to recruit superiors in one area - and that is not enough, even if all teips announce a set. And about the Tajiks - someone told you a fairy tale. Well, how many are there in Russia? Even if half a million arrives, well, they won’t be able to take all the posts of janitors and plumbers.
                  Well, aren't Ukrainians a gullible people? They will be told everything they are told. :)))

                  But they don’t need to go to every region. They go to Moscow, St. Petersburg and Surgut. Where there is money. Become one trust manager, and after a year you look, and half of the foremen and foremen at the construction site are Chechens. (In CIS-SurgutNefteGaz, so ) Tajik is also in Torzhek, or Ryazan will not go, why is he a poor hinterland? He is going to Moscow again, Peter, Surgut. And there, on the spot, they will already be allocated where and how much they will work. And they will work there, he’ll say where they’ll buy their authority, or they’ll shove their authority. They’ll put drugs on them. I’ll say that I’ve seen it myself. And they’ll cover them with a bang. And the bosses at the construction site made a big profit. . each hands, and they closed 2002 rubles each. There were more than 10000 people in the brigade. Guess who the difference in payment is?
                  1. fzr1000
                    fzr1000 16 November 2015 00: 13 New
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                    Well, compose an expert. 2002 year. Another second Chechen was marching. Now is the 2015th. In the North, especially now, some cities were closed from these ...
                  2. Riv
                    Riv 16 November 2015 06: 23 New
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                    Come on, tell tales. A Tajik, after all, does not only live on his own - he also sends something home, but he cannot live alone at 10K in the capitals. And Chechens are also not full of Moscow. There are only a million and a half. Even if all the adults from Chechnya are taken out and settled in Moscow, there will be only the fourth largest national group. By the way: guess after whom ...
                    1. Bradypodidae
                      Bradypodidae 16 November 2015 11: 14 New
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                      Quote: Riv
                      Come on, tell tales. A Tajik, after all, does not only live on his own - he also sends something home, but he cannot live alone at 10K in the capitals. And Chechens are also not full of Moscow. There are only a million and a half. Even if all the adults from Chechnya are taken out and settled in Moscow, there will be only the fourth largest national group. By the way: guess after whom ...

                      How much they earn in the capitals, I don’t know. And in Surgut they received 10000. They lived right at the construction site, in the trailer, they cooked for themselves there. And they sent home not only money, but also all the good that the drug addicts wore to them from home. And no one touched them. And so, they are quiet, nice people. They don’t swear, they don’t work, they work like oxen. On Fridays they cook pilaf on fire (they take food to pilaf in the mosque), they treated many people at the construction site. Delicious.
                      Are you a Muscovite? No? Then the Internet will help. For an hour you will find out what, and how much Chechens keep in the capitals.
                      1. Riv
                        Riv 16 November 2015 13: 00 New
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                        Yes, you yourself, as I take a look, the storyteller ... I collected fairy tales and you tell them here. Chechens divided Moscow with him. Tajiks take food for themselves in his mosque. 2002, a mosque in Surgut. :))) There is also at every step of the mosque. And minarets on the city square. And on each donkey.
                        Admit: in 2002, your mom and dad only met.
          3. Wanderer27
            Wanderer27 15 November 2015 18: 43 New
            -4
            Well, let's show your toughness ahead.
          4. Wanderer27
            Wanderer27 15 November 2015 18: 44 New
            -4
            Bury if you can.
          5. Shurale
            Shurale 16 November 2015 09: 33 New
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            In my opinion, it is necessary to bury someone who has admitted that on both sides of the front people speak Russian, and I think we know the name of this person .... Under whatever sauce he presented it to us. It is a crime.
        2. Persistent
          Persistent 15 November 2015 16: 26 New
          +5
          The fairy tale is not a fairy tale, only tanks collected in Kharkov by Russian hands will kill Russian people in LDNR, such a fairy tale has come true.

          The problems of the Kharkiv State Enterprise "Malyshev Plant" are that their welded armor does not withstand the hit of shells and diverges at the seams !!!
          1. Kars
            Kars 16 November 2015 11: 20 New
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            Quote: Persistent
            The problems of the Kharkiv State Enterprise "Malyshev Plant" are that their welded armor does not withstand the hit of shells and diverges at the seams !!!

            And there is a photo of the evidence? Just do not confuse the pododaniya of shells and the internal explosion. The whole Lostarmore to help you))
        3. avg
          avg 15 November 2015 16: 48 New
          +6
          Quote: 79807420129
          The fairy tale is not a fairy tale, only tanks collected in Kharkov by Russian hands will kill Russian people in LDNR, such a fairy tale has come true.

          Unfortunately, it wasn’t even true, but pain.
          1. andreyobd
            andreyobd 17 November 2015 17: 08 New
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            It’s terrible to read such a report from once our factory (((
        4. Приговор
          Приговор 15 November 2015 17: 22 New
          +6
          These are not Russian tanks collected. These are called geeks. They are no longer Russian, only the language remains, and even that they hate, well aware of their betrayal.
          1. perm23
            perm23 15 November 2015 17: 27 New
            +4
            Ordinary traitors and philistines. They just have to feed their family. They do not understand that the ukrofashists will bury them all one, make them jump and bend under them. And the brother in the Donbass will not come to the rescue when the fascist will beat
        5. perm23
          perm23 15 November 2015 17: 24 New
          -2
          And how to make it so that the fairy tale doesn’t become true. Harklev take, help the resistance. And now they are riveting and killing tanks.
        6. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 16 November 2015 00: 05 New
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          Quote: 79807420129
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Full of vacancies and a good salary ... It is expected to complete the modernization during 2016. Tale for the Ruins.

          The fairy tale is not a fairy tale, only tanks collected in Kharkov by Russian hands will kill Russian people in LDNR, such a fairy tale has come true.


          Are they Russian? If the Russians then the tanks go to Berlin.
      2. Aibolit64
        Aibolit64 15 November 2015 16: 55 New
        0
        The fool gets richer in thought. wassat
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 15 November 2015 20: 05 New
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        Quote: oleg-gr
        It is expected to complete the modernization during 2016.

        What a modernization if there is no heating in the workshops!
        A phased launch of heating in a number of rooms is planned.
        There are debts ............ above the roof
    2. Good me
      Good me 15 November 2015 13: 31 New
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      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      One plant? To all the dill panzervaffe?


      The plant was powerful. If he were now "promoted" to the level of his existence in the USSR, then with tanks and accompanying vehicles, he would literally flood the market ...

      In addition, there are (were request ) tank repair plants ... Do I know in what mode, I don’t know.

      But in 2008, among the tanks captured in the boxes of the base in Gori, there were T-72s that were repaired at the Lviv Tank Repair Plant ...
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 15 November 2015 19: 49 New
        +4
        Plant them. Malysheva suffers from a common problem for defense plants in Ukraine. It is written ah, how beautiful, they say, and orders for five years and salaries. For example, in the 2000s. they ordered large-diameter gears for gearboxes for tanks in Zaporozhye for Motor Sich, since they could no longer manufacture them. You can't lure young people into factories for working professions with a roll, the main specialists are pensioners under 70. The machine park has not been modernized since the times of the USSR and is worn out to the extreme. The quality of the products has dropped in no way. And such problems are everywhere. I say this because I have personally encountered this before at work. As for the tank repair factories, I do not know what is there in Lviv, but in Zhitomirskiy gas boilers have been made recently. So with regard to the defense industry in Ukraine, I will say this, everything is very bad. Well, this is for Ukraine, but for others, I think it's very good.
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 15 November 2015 13: 47 New
      52
      Good to joke. A large and powerful plant with history and traditions. A serious danger, given that the still undisclosed Western money in Ukraine goes to the defense industry. Some of the products for export, and some of the troops. And this is already serious. Where will all the new tanks go? It's not hard to guess, I think. And by the way, even in 25 years of wild "independence" in Ukraine, it was not possible to kill all the legacy of the Soviet military-industrial complex. So there is still a lot to reanimate. We need to closely monitor. This weapon and just like that, they won't let him stand idle ...
      1. 78bor1973
        78bor1973 15 November 2015 19: 18 New
        +2
        But it’s interesting and who makes the gun barrels for them, or is they taking off old Soviet ones ?! I generally keep quiet about the sights, the plant is in the Crimea. And judging by the latest international exhibitions, the modern one wasn’t nearly lying around, even the simplest MRAPs cannot be produced!
    4. Civil
      Civil 15 November 2015 14: 02 New
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      We must continue to stagger the situation in Kharkov ...
      1. I am Russian
        I am Russian 15 November 2015 14: 43 New
        +9
        News from the militia of New Russia
        15.11.15/XNUMX/XNUMX. Message from Igor Yashchenko.

        “According to our information, a column of tracked vehicles and trucks loaded with ammunition, as well as the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered Stanytsia Luganskaya and Olkhovoye. These vehicles, cars and buses bear the words“ School ”on them, and there are signs "Children." Although in fact, this transport transported armed people in uniform. With such attempts, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hopes to quietly transfer equipment and personnel to the most strategically important areas. "

        From the LPR militia: "According to intelligence, the number of Ukrainian Armed Forces in the LPR is growing. Stanitsa-Luganskaya is more than 9000 people and about 350 armored combat vehicles. In the area of ​​Happiness there are about 6200 people and up to 200 pieces of equipment, in the Trehizbenka area there are 1000 to 1500 people, and about 50 units of armored combat vehicles. Up to 10 people and about 500 units of equipment are concentrated on Bakhmutka. In the area of ​​Popasna and Zolote, the enemy concentrated 350 people and 8000 units of armored vehicles. In total, about 150 people are concentrated in the LPR. "
        1. ordin64
          ordin64 15 November 2015 17: 16 New
          +7
          On these vehicles, cars and buses, they bore the words "School", and on the windshields there are signs "Children"
          Well, they are children!
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 15 November 2015 14: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        We must continue to stagger the situation in Kharkov ...

        I read somewhere, the ukrobesheshie themselves consider Kharkov to be "wadded" ... it seems like a censor. lies ...
        And finally, does the "black eagle" exist or not?
        1. wk
          wk 15 November 2015 15: 14 New
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          Quote: sabakina
          And finally, does the "black eagle" exist or not?

          "Black Eagle" further CHO is the development of the Omsk Design Bureau, which was successfully strangled under Yeltsin in favor of the current UVZ ... then the case was "family" ... the CHO was based on the T80, the T80u t80 was developed by the Leningrad Design Bureau ... the development of the T80U continued until the mid-2000s .. .. CHO often shone in the late nineties ... then they did not put an end to it ... but it was a concept ... the tower was always shown on the set in a tarpaulin ... one rink seems to be longer than the T80 (I do not claim) ... by the shape of the tower, one could say that the ammunition was placed like Abrams in a capsule in the rear of the tower .... on the T80U GTU there were 1250 hp, more than 1500 were predicted on the CHO ... if the project did not work out badly ... considering, that its mass is less than its western counterparts .... there are also videos with it on YouTube!

          PS: CHO has no relation to the Malyshev factory!
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    5. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 15 November 2015 15: 08 New
      +5
      Come on. We can also say one tank-building plant - UralVagonZavod. But about the leftovers I agree. Yes, and loans from the IMF are unlikely to be able to develop. They need to pray that the IMF does not demand the bankruptcy of HZTM, as their country is in debt bondage, and they see whether they decided to play tanks. I am silent about the CNC machines (which they want to buy) - one machine (some 16R20F3) of Russian production costs more than 1 million rubles, and the European one is more than 20 million, but they will not buy from Russia (themselves you know for what reason), and to buy machines from the EU for them is too expensive.
      1. wk
        wk 15 November 2015 15: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: Dmitry Toderese
        1 million rubles.,

        ... are you at 1989 prices? .... Have you forgotten either the zeros or the currency is not rubles, but another!
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 15 November 2015 20: 16 New
        +7
        The only plant in ukraine that regularly updated its machine park is Motor Sich. Equipment was purchased regularly and in large quantities. For example, the Gleason-Pfauter gear grinding machine alone cost two million dollars. There is no other way in aviation, since the requirements are very high. But since 80 percent. products were supplied to Russia, you yourself understand that the first decree, such as the new government of Ukraine, was to ban any cooperation with Russia. As a result, Russia itself is now excellently producing helicopter and rocket and aircraft engines, and the huge plant is practically idle. I'm just surprised by the maydanuty. The aviation giant was ruined (by the standards of Ukraine), twenty-eight thousand workers were left almost without work (salary of $ 100), they lost a billion hryvnia to the budget. and rejoice. But they firmly believe that they gave a shit to Russia. Morons.
    6. Tor5
      Tor5 15 November 2015 16: 13 New
      0
      I wonder what are the performance characteristics of this "legendary" tank?
    7. Persistent
      Persistent 15 November 2015 16: 20 New
      +5
      The interview was given for "Censor. No" ... That says it all !!! This is another noodle on Svidomo's ears ...
    8. vodolaz
      vodolaz 15 November 2015 21: 37 New
      0
      Even if everything is as they say here, but on some tanks the military industrial complex cannot be pulled out. Better to tell how their aircraft industry and the missile industry are doing.
    9. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 16 November 2015 00: 04 New
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      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      One plant? All the Ukrop Panzerwaffe? And given that many vehicles are exported, their armed forces have to be content with "scraps" ...


      One workshop would be enough. The question is different. This whole story resembles a joke about a fool and a glass penis. It will end in exactly the same way.
    10. _Lexa_
      _Lexa_ 16 November 2015 10: 03 New
      -1
      I think that all the cars are exported, and those vehicles that buyers returned for warranty cases i.e. marriage.
  2. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 November 2015 13: 25 New
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    This article is what year, interesting?
    Or we’re actually lying about
    how is everything bad in Ukraine?
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 15 November 2015 13: 27 New
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      It’s shitty there, but it’s probably not as bad as they say, for the Khokhlostan would have fallen apart for a long time, and no noodles would have helped ...
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 15 November 2015 14: 26 New
        +7
        Quote: IAlex
        It’s shitty there, but it’s probably not as bad as they say, for the Khokhlostan would have fallen apart for a long time, and no noodles would have helped ...


        The former Ukraine is kept afloat only due to the "sponsor" tranches, But patience and trust are also running out of comfort, and even they persuade the "sworn enemies of the Nezalezhnaya" not to impose an embargo on Ukrainian products, otherwise the heart will sink:
        (cry.)
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 16 November 2015 00: 16 New
          +1
          Siluanov already admits negotiations on debt restructuring of Ukrainehttps: //news.yandex.ru/yandsearch? Cl4url = www.gazeta.ru% 2Fbusiness% 2Fnews%
          2F2015%2F11%2F15%2Fn_7891991.shtml&lr=77&lang=ru
          This news is on almost all news resources.
      2. dali
        dali 15 November 2015 14: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: IAlex
        It’s shitty there, but it’s probably not as bad as they say, for the Khokhlostan would have fallen apart for a long time, and no noodles would have helped ...
        And what hasn't collapsed yet ?! belay Or don't you see and hear nothing ?!

        Zomanus, IAlex you fell off the moon - many have friends and relatives in the same Kharkov ... read comments below ...
    2. rubidiy
      rubidiy 15 November 2015 14: 08 New
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      you seem to be living on another planet. hi Ask your friends. I have enough acquaintances of Ukrainians who left for Russia after the coup despite the fact that everything was normal before that. There are acquaintances who made good money before the coup, and after that they lost their jobs, because firms closed up or were forced to cut staff several times.
      The article from top to bottom is full of Soviet-era slogans and lies. It does not even make sense to disassemble. on-duty phrases about how everything flourishes are visible in each offer. Russia in its worst situation was the same, only no one lied that everything was fine.
      Objectively, no Bastions of the tender would not have won, but their American masters kept afloat with minimal effort, so that things would not get so bad that another coup would happen, but it would be real. So some minimum orders for tanks, despite their technical backwardness, will be provided to Ukraine. The plant will work for export in any case, because there is no money in the country. Technologies have been and have been exclusively since Soviet times, and since Since cooperation with Russia has been curtailed, there is nothing worth waiting for except the slow bending of that small scientific potential that still existed in Ukraine.
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 15 November 2015 14: 41 New
      +7
      Quote: Zomanus
      Or are we actually lying about how bad things are in Ukraine?

      As always, all that is possible is exaggerated or understated. At enterprises not directly related to the defense industry, people work, receive a salary. So a son-in-law in Dnepropetrovsk works in an office associated with Korean machine tool manufacturers. He is guaranteed a job and a salary. His wife At Yuzhmash she works one day a week, the salary is intermittent. but, at least they are not kicked out of the hostel. At the very least, there is housing. So evaluate. I would not say that everything is fine. There are problems there. Pensions for pensioners are not indexed. Treatment at their own expense, up to alcohol and cotton wool for injections.
      If we are used to calling, making an appointment, and arriving on the appointed day, you will be surely accepted, then the brother-in-law travels to Kharkov without a guarantee of admission, with oncology. No entry for tomorrow, a week later. Come, and there you will see how many times Lozova will have to go to Kharkov.
    4. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 15 November 2015 16: 19 New
      +4
      No, everything is in its place. Regarding the plans of the plant ... Well, in this case, it looks more like a dream. I will explain why. How many tanks have they made in the last two years? Not repaired, repaired, namely built? Right! Zero. How much has Ukraine fulfilled arms supply contracts? For the same period. And how much did it pluck? Here.
      And I ask you to pay attention to the issue of restoring machines. You read? Recovery! Him that bombed this plant? Well, in general, the plant is in terrible condition, and so far it’s only because many tanks are being burned, it’s necessary to replenish, and they are interrupted by repairs.
    5. Albert1988
      Albert1988 15 November 2015 16: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Zomanus
      Or we’re actually lying about
      how is everything bad in Ukraine?

      It can be assumed that they are lying in the article - the same notorious "stronghold" they had to deliver to Thailand in 2013 among 84 pieces, as a result, only 14 were put in the 10th, now the director broadcasts that next year they will deliver 5 more , then a logical question arises - and HOW will they fulfill Pakistan's orders for 300 units and supply "dozens" to their army, if before that they could not even supply 80 to the Thais? (mind you, the director now casually "reduced" the Thai order from about 80 to 39 cars))) - apparently so that it looks less shameful) ...
      So the article is most likely for intra-European use - they say how cool everything is with us ...
      1. Serg81
        Serg81 16 November 2015 09: 46 New
        +1
        They will not fulfill this contract in any way. Everyone already knows that Oplots are made of old Soviet T-80s, as well as the first contract for the supply of tanks to Pakistan. There are not so many 300 tanks in Ukraine T80, and the full production cycle has not been carried out for 25 years. Mariupol cooked abuse, but it was also like that for 25 years, and modern armor is a multi-layer cake of homogeneous armor and special layers, where they will take it all. This year I talked with an employee who works for Malyshev, and so she said that there was a complete slag and that in another 5 years there were 3-4 directors changed. So what kind of release of tanks can we talk about.
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  3. kotvov
    kotvov 15 November 2015 13: 25 New
    +5
    Tank T-84U "Oplot" is the pride of the plant, its visiting card of recent years ,,,
    I would like to know, and what kind of miracle is this? It is not without reason that the letter U stands after the index.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 15 November 2015 14: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: kotvov
      it’s not without reason that the letter U stands after the index.

      This home is called. Sorry for the bad french.
      1. Baloo_bst
        Baloo_bst 15 November 2015 15: 08 New
        +4
        I would like to have voiced how many pieces of the 84th were released, then you can talk about a business card.
        And so only 64 and even then they take it from NZ and restore it. Yes, and these will end soon.
        I can’t say that, but they say that the BTR-4 is a deep alteration of the 60s, and the independent ones have not had their own building capacities for a long time, and there’s nothing to do with it.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 15 November 2015 16: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Baloo_bst
          I would like to have voiced how many pieces of the 84th were released, then you can talk about a business card.

          Officially, about 10-15 of them were released "for our own" and 10 for Thailand, but there are suspicions that only about 10 - 15 of them were released, and from this amount they were sent to Thailand, but even if we assume what is called to the maximum, then no more than 25 - 30 units were produced - 5 pieces in Ukraine, and about 10 each in Thailand and Pakistan (although they say that there are more of them in Pakistan, but something is not visible there at all) ...
          I repeat that there are also suspicions that the "strongholds" are corny modernized old T-80UD, not new machines ...
          1. Baloo_bst
            Baloo_bst 15 November 2015 17: 21 New
            +1
            I repeat that there are also suspicions that the "strongholds" are corny modernized old T-80UD, not new machines ...

            Yes, everything in the outskirts is modernization, not new.
            If interested, there is a lot about ukrooboronprom.
            http://evgenuss.livejournal.com/?skip=10&tag=Легкая%20бронетехни
            ka% 20404
            Officially, about 10-15 of them were released "for our own" and 10 for Thailand,
            That's exactly 10-15 pieces for many years. And this is the visiting card of the plant, and the loud statement is one of the best in the world. It’s ridiculous.
          2. Tankomaster
            Tankomaster 15 November 2015 23: 11 New
            +1
            84 T-2002s were produced in 10, 4 of them were converted into T-80UD and sold to P ---- ndos in 2003. 5 were converted into BM "Oplot" and delivered as the first batch to Thailand in 2014. In 2015, new BM "Oplot" were assembled and delivered to Thailand, in the amount of 5 pieces. For the Armed Forces of Ukraine, these tanks are not even planned ... there is nothing to pay for them ... and the most important thing is that they cannot be operated. And most importantly, do not confuse the T-84 and BM "Oplot", they are similar, since the basis is still the allied T-80UD, but they have their own differences. only one prototype of the BM "Oplot" was officially adopted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine - more precisely, an exhibition copy, which is carried to exhibitions. And ZTM .. it's such a hole .. it's a pity that such an enterprise was ruined, but in the current conditions it is good.
        2. Serg81
          Serg81 16 November 2015 09: 55 New
          0
          Cases for the BTR-4E in Lovova at the forging and mechanical plant are doing. By the way, the largest in the union was.
          1. Tankomaster
            Tankomaster 16 November 2015 14: 48 New
            0
            did until 2013 .. after that the order was taken away from the UPEC group .. since the quality and price do not meet, and the BTR-4 itself .. is good in ideology, but in execution .. it sucks .. and this is very good in the current conditions ... New Russia will stand.
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    2. wk
      wk 15 November 2015 15: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: kotvov
      Tank T-84U "Oplot" is the pride of the plant, its business card of recent years, I would like to know, and what kind of miracle is it? It's not for nothing that the letter U stands after the index.

      the T80U tank is an Omsk tank, on Malyshev they made a T80UD with a diesel engine instead of a gas turbine ... Although the stronghold is made on the basis of the T80UD, it differs approximately, like the T72 and T90MS
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 15 November 2015 16: 35 New
        +4
        Differs in engine and fire control system. This is not the point, it is the modernization of the T-80 UD, the modernization of the finished tank. Those. we take from storage, disassemble, reassemble. How many tanks did this plant produce independently, i.e. built from scratch? If the 80s run out, what will they do? Should I order the corps from the "aggressor"? Well, in short, it's like a car factory and a tuning studio, can you feel the difference?
    3. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 15 November 2015 15: 29 New
      +1
      Tank T-84U "Oplot" is the pride of the plant, its visiting card of recent years ,,,
      I would like to know, and what kind of miracle is this? It is not without reason that the letter U stands after the index.
      This is a T-80ud
    4. Albert1988
      Albert1988 15 November 2015 16: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: kotvov
      I would like to know, and what kind of miracle is this?

      VO was full of articles about him at one time, so by searching you can find - and in short - this is a weighted type with new devices and DZ T-80UD, and there is an opinion that these are not newly produced T-80UD with bells and whistles, but old ones, taken from the warehouses of the 80s, which were simply "scalded" and passed off as a "fundamentally new tank", from which such difficulties with its serial production come ...
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 15 November 2015 16: 39 New
        +3
        That is how it is. And the article says about it. We produce MTOs and engines, they do it themselves, and the rest are T-80UD donors from storage.
      2. Tankomaster
        Tankomaster 15 November 2015 23: 13 New
        +1
        There are no T-80UD in warehouses, they were all sold to Pakistan back in 1997 .. there are only a few T-80UD machines and those of the training group.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 16 November 2015 09: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Tankomaster
          There are no T-80UD in warehouses, they were all sold to Pakistan back in 1997 ..

          In this case, it becomes clear why they have now "produced" 5-10 "strongholds" and can no longer ...
          1. Tankomaster
            Tankomaster 16 November 2015 14: 52 New
            0
            they can make no more than 10 buildings and towers a year now .. although 15 years ago it was a month, and when the union was 25 years ago, the plant produced 60 to 80 cars a month, with overload at the end of the year it reached 100
          2. Tankomaster
            Tankomaster 16 November 2015 14: 52 New
            0
            they can make no more than 10 buildings and towers a year now .. although 15 years ago it was a month, and when the union was 25 years ago, the plant produced 60 to 80 cars a month, with overload at the end of the year it reached 100
    5. Tankomaster
      Tankomaster 16 November 2015 14: 45 New
      0
      there are two T-84 tanks (478DU9) and BM "Oplot" (478DU10) ... which one is your calling card?
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 November 2015 13: 27 New
    +8
    Few tanks for such a conveyor. There were complaints about the armor made in Ukraine. In general, if there is no assembly line, then we must proceed to the slipway assembly, and many components will not be Ukrainian. For example, you can take Merkava. At the same time, the machine will no longer be able to be twice cheaper than its analogues and problems will begin with exports like the Turks with their Altai. Here everything clings to each other. Those. There will be no independent export, and this is the goal of Ukraine’s air force with other countries.
    1. wk
      wk 15 November 2015 15: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      In general, if there is no assembly line, then we must proceed to the slipway assembly,

      the building assembly also needs to be revived in Russia ... on the basis of tank repair plants ... in the USA it has long been switched to this practice ... throughout the territory a lot of workshops ... in the event of a modern armed conflict, the only conveyor operating in the country will be destroyed.
  5. Oman 47
    Oman 47 15 November 2015 13: 28 New
    11
    A pre-sale preparation of this plant is being carried out ?!
    1. osa64
      osa64 15 November 2015 19: 44 New
      0
      Most likely this is preparation for the sale of the enterprise.
  6. NIKNN
    NIKNN 15 November 2015 13: 28 New
    13
    Tank T-84U "Oplot" is the pride of the plant, its visiting card of recent years, one of the best tanks in the world today


    You can not read further. The only positive quality of the plant is that it feeds 1-1.5 thousand people crying
  7. roskot
    roskot 15 November 2015 13: 28 New
    13
    Well, if the Censor illuminates, then all the other tractor plants in Europe are on the sidelines and nervously smoking.
  8. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 15 November 2015 13: 29 New
    +9
    I can’t calmly hear about the successes of the Ukrainian defense industry — they are killing their people!
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 15 November 2015 13: 36 New
      16
      Quote: serezhasoldatow
      kill their people!

      An army can shoot at its people only once. The next time she shoots at a stranger’s people.
  9. izya top
    izya top 15 November 2015 13: 30 New
    +3
    to believe? or they advertise that young people come, and it will not be necessary to run after them with summons to the grave?
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 15 November 2015 16: 42 New
      0
      Well, how to believe ... Like Eresko about economic growth, like Yatsenyuk about gas independence, like generals about successful warfare, like Poroshenko about a visa-free regime, etc.
  10. Observer2014
    Observer2014 15 November 2015 13: 30 New
    13
    "The plant has practically no wage arrears, part of the debt of previous years is paid off monthly. Specialists in their field can earn from 8 UAH and more, the average salary at the enterprise is 000 UAH."
    Ha ha ha.You just get a grasp of these numbers! "Utse peremoga, so peremoga"! Not for this we stood on the Maidan. Without visas "to Europa" for "zrabitki" from where the dream was! And then, apparently, "curse the enemies of Gaster "with" nenkoy "here, they will ask to go home.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 15 November 2015 13: 55 New
      +6
      I just went to the Kharkiv website as a specialist. Loaders in the store are offered more salaries than the average at the Malyshev plant. "Work in Ukraine full ...! Only pensioners can live there. Who even pay a pension. By the way, about Kharkov. And the city has turned into a dead end!" I don’t know how to whom, but I have only one saying about this: "That's it, the haples have arrived!"
  11. Mantykora
    Mantykora 15 November 2015 13: 31 New
    21
    4600 UAH - Today in Ukraine there are not so many. Of course, more than in the country, but still a little, given inflation, the depreciation of the hryvnia since February 2015. And if you also remember that the tanks will go to war against the Donbass ... 13 silver coins. When will these tanks fight against a real enemy? Damn it in my Kharkov, which has already been lousy lately, and still gathered to rename streets with areas.
    1. Bradypodidae
      Bradypodidae 16 November 2015 00: 16 New
      +1
      4600 grams, this is a salary that 70 percent of the population can only dream of, even taking into account inflation. And how do you 1200gr a month? It's paid in big cities, and so 1200 and live as you want.
  12. aba
    aba 15 November 2015 13: 37 New
    +8
    In his student years, he visited in practice both at the Kharkov MH and at the Lvov Tank Repair.
    There were times ?! And how stupidly everything has sunk into the past ... Some memories, and the most positive ... Probably from the fact that he himself was young as never before. smile
  13. onix757
    onix757 15 November 2015 13: 38 New
    +6
    Close attention was always focused on the only tank production plant in Ukraine.

    ))) So we also have one of the three left. But it could have been ours a year ago.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 15 November 2015 16: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: onix757
      So we also have one of the three left ....

      Do you mean "one out of three stayed"?
      If you mean UVZ, this is now a union.

      UVZ Corporation includes the following enterprises:

      OJSC “Research and Production Corporation Uralvagonzavod”
      OJSC Ural Transport Engineering Plant (Uraltransmash)
      OJSC "Plant No. 9"
      OJSC Rubtsovsk Machine-Building Plant
      OJSC Kamensk-Uralsky Foundry
      Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant - Uraltrac LLC and Vityaz Engineering Company OJSC
      NPO Elektromashina OJSC
      Uralkriomash OJSC
      OJSC "All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Transport Engineering"
      OJSC Central Research Institute Burevestnik
      OJSC Central Research Institute of Materials
      JSC "Research Institute of Engines"
      OJSC Ural Scientific Research Technological Institute
      OJSC "Scientific and Production Company for the Implementation of Scientific and Engineering Innovations"
      OJSC "Ural Design Bureau of Transport Engineering"
      JSC "Design Bureau of Transport Engineering"
      OJSC "Special Design Bureau of Transport Engineering"
      OJSC "Murom Special Design Bureau"
      Ural Heavy Equipment - Uralvagonzavod CJSC UBT-UVZ
      Volchan Mechanical Plant
      OJSC "Electroautomat"
      OJSC "ElectroMachine-building Plant" LEPSE ""
      LLC UVZ-Logistic
      CJSC UVZ-Trans
      Sambre et meuse
      Tver Carriage Works OJSC
      OJSC Tomsk Electrotechnical Plant
  14. Mihail55
    Mihail55 15 November 2015 13: 38 New
    22
    Russian-speaking city forges weapons against its brothers! What a joy ... pah!
  15. family tree
    family tree 15 November 2015 13: 46 New
    12
    The plant has virtually no wage arrears; a part of the debt of previous years is repaid monthly.
    belay Killed!
    The unique engines for MTO are made only by the Aggregate Plant of the Malyshev Plant. Their advantage is that they can operate on any fuel and can withstand any heat load.
    Et, when is this Junkers' "suitcase" on its side, when it was put by Charomsky, did it become unique? YUMO-201, 203. (Although, between us, this diesel engine, back in 1907, Raymond Alexandrovich Koreyvo, being an engineer at the Kolomna plant, patented repeat)
    - The company manufactures engines and spare parts for diesel locomotives, mainly for the near abroad and Ukraine.
    Chobelay Two-stroke too? With an awesome heat stress and a matyukataly start-up?
    1. izya top
      izya top 15 November 2015 13: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: perepilka
      Killed!

      come to life, come to life, live yourself 15 years ago in such an ass. Maybe they will start thinking, not jumping.
      py.sy. Hello hi
      1. family tree
        family tree 15 November 2015 14: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: izya top
        come to life, come to life, live yourself 15 years ago in such an ass. Maybe they will start thinking, not jumping.

        Raise my eyelids, oh, not that (with the same intonation) pour me a hundred grams! drinks
        They were red-hot now, so they stood nearby, why, they didn’t stick, didn’t understand how it ended? There, after all, not only wage arrears, but also savage post-shootings, and the army below the baseboard, and, even I, the thing is past
        ps Health hi
        1. izya top
          izya top 15 November 2015 14: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: perepilka
          ps Health

          ha, I did not know, I will be rich fellow
          well for wealth drinks
          1. family tree
            family tree 15 November 2015 14: 58 New
            0
            Quote: izya top
            well, for wealth drinks

            Support then support drinks
            But, what for it to me, and so there are enough problems recourse Add, and drink vodka, there will be no time belay
            1. izya top
              izya top 15 November 2015 15: 05 New
              +2
              Quote: perepilka
              and drink vodka, there will be no time

              well, then you don’t bring it to me, you are dear to me, like Yuri, as a drinking companion
              1. family tree
                family tree 15 November 2015 15: 38 New
                0
                Quote: izya top
                like Yurka, as a drinking companion

                N-pour! While Yurka is in the offe, the sleeping one is dressed. wink
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 16 November 2015 00: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: perepilka
      Chöbelay Also two-stroke? With an awesome heat stress and a matyukataly start-up?

      Yes! At one time, the KhPI developed a 4-stroke D-70 engine, but it was produced in small series and was used on railway transport. At least I did not have to deal with them, although I had to have all the other mass engines It’s good that D-49 diesel went into production, and even on railway transport we would have a headache.
      1. family tree
        family tree 19 November 2015 23: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        At least I didn’t have to deal with them, although I had to deal with all the other mass engines.

        So they, before this two-stroke, for diesel locomotives did, on the basis of ship. Only that the ship is suitable, there are no problems with cooling, the radiator cooled by water, not at all like air, and the change of loads on the diesel locomotive and on the ship are two big differences. And at the expense of D-70, it might have turned out the engine, only Malyshev’s plant reoriented the tanks and diesel locomotives became irrelevant for them and Lugansk seized the initiative
        1. atalef
          atalef 20 November 2015 00: 12 New
          0
          Hello Vladimir
          7d100m-diesel diesel, in my army at the DES stood 3 of them, each for 1000 kW of power with 10 kW at the output of the generator, the same Malyshevsky plant
  16. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 15 November 2015 13: 48 New
    17
    Advertising is the engine of advertising. At the checkpoints they caught 1,5 thousand military men and sent to the ATO. Now again fill 1,5 thousand vacancies. That's where the conveyor belt is, and not the place in the workshop where the tanks are in the photo.
  17. Altona
    Altona 15 November 2015 13: 50 New
    +9
    The article is junk, now all the bosses are composing such a fairy tale for their enterprise to go over their ears ... And the passage about the "invincible and one of the best in the world" tank "Oplot" somehow dispelled all doubts about such a "prosperous" enterprise .. ...
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 15 November 2015 14: 06 New
      +3
      Be that as it may - the plant is working and, as I understand it, produces weapons (for yourself you know what). If they are really inundated with contracts for 5 years in advance - this is a very unkind sign.
      Well, this is an interview to draw attention to the plant in order to interest investors and customers, as well as attract public finances.
      1. Altona
        Altona 15 November 2015 14: 21 New
        +6
        Quote: theadenter
        Be that as it may - the plant is working and, as I understand it, produces weapons (for yourself you know what). If they are really inundated with contracts for 5 years in advance - this is a very unkind sign.

        -----------------------
        Based on the calculation of 5-10 tanks per year, the plant is provided with orders for 50 years ahead. The only question is, is Ukraine ready to hold out so much?
        1. theadenter
          theadenter 15 November 2015 14: 34 New
          +3
          It all depends on how much debt the Europeans and Americans want to plant Ukraine. They will pay for a long time. Additional income from interest for 100 years ahead who will hurt? The longer the fighting takes place, the more debt will be and less often they will be paid off. The West benefits from this conflict.
          And the destruction of industry, entrepreneurship, trade relations with Russia and reputation - in general, kills the chance of repaying loans in the long term.
          1. sergv
            sergv 15 November 2015 14: 53 New
            +2
            You will be surprised, but in order for the Russians to destroy the Russians, they will just bring in green and other candy wrappers, recognized as the corrupt "elite" of the world currency, give them, unofficially throw them in, etc.
            1. theadenter
              theadenter 15 November 2015 15: 00 New
              +2
              Why destroy the Russians if they can be used to their advantage? Destruction is a side effect of profit.
              1. sergv
                sergv 15 November 2015 15: 37 New
                0
                However, the Russians pose a threat with their genetic connection with their ancestors, which is fraught with the awakening of the thirst for justice in the temporarily duped and "put to sleep". That is why Russians are unpredictable for them, they do not lock into a degenerative system, do not seek to fit into it, they are in an eternal search for truth ...
  18. onix757
    onix757 15 November 2015 13: 52 New
    +3
    Et, when is this Junkers' "suitcase" on its side, when it was put by Charomsky, did it become unique? YUMO-201, 203. (Although, between us, this diesel engine, back in 1907, Raymond Alexandrovich Koreyvo, being an engineer at the Kolomna plant, patented

    In vain are you so, Kharkov dviguns were the most advanced at the time of the collapse of the USSR. And generally in Kharkov all the advanced ideas in tank building were laid.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 15 November 2015 14: 00 New
      +3
      Tagil rules!
    2. family tree
      family tree 15 November 2015 14: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: onix757
      In vain are you so, Kharkov dviguns were the most advanced at the time of the collapse of the USSR.

      I would have believed you, at the expense of dviguns, if not for my specialty "Machines and mechanisms of the forest industry", and qualification "mechanical engineer", "made in USSR"
      1. Kars
        Kars 15 November 2015 14: 29 New
        15
        At the end of the 80, it was the T-80UD that they were going to make the USSR a single tank. The courtiers of Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya rode tanks with precisely such engines.
        1. family tree
          family tree 15 November 2015 14: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Kars
          Courtiers Kantemirovskaya

          Kantemirovtsy, it seems like, after switching to "y", so they ride what
          Hello, gunner hi What pile, show, no, well, it’s interesting yes
          1. Kars
            Kars 15 November 2015 15: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: perepilka
            antemirovtsy, it seems like, after switching to "y", so they ride

            Now it’s most likely on some, but at the beginning of 90_x someone even in 2002 says he saw there were UDs, as well as BV.
            Quote: perepilka
            Hello, gunner

            hi

            Quote: perepilka
            What pile, show, no, well, it’s interesting

            I torment the Jews, they fight back and spoil the inspiration, so this year is only harvested for korbki, Ilyich brought a couple good, and I finally decided with the military enlistment office, so there was enough money for a couple of tanks.
            1. family tree
              family tree 15 November 2015 16: 01 New
              +1
              Quote: Kars
              Ilyich blessed a couple, and I finally decided with the military registration and enlistment office, so there was enough money for a couple of tanks.

              Ilyich, give a bow, on occasion (well, I, if you don’t mind, from you), and it’s kind of in the same area, and even here we rarely meet, although he’s more like Psheks and Norgs, I see such a job, fishing go what
              Lana, good health, it's nice to see the "old man" on VO.
            2. family tree
              family tree 15 November 2015 17: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Kars
              I torment the Jews, they fight back and spoil the inspiration, so this year is only harvested for korbki, Ilyich brought a couple good, and I finally decided with the military enlistment office, so there was enough money for a couple of tanks.

              Finish, at least show the pictures
              How do you have enough for this trifle?
              Good luck, and in PM, if anything hi
              1. Kars
                Kars 15 November 2015 18: 18 New
                +3
                Quote: perepilka
                Finish, at least show the pictures
                How do you have enough for this trifle?

                I’ll complete it, be sure.
                There is not enough patience. And then Carrots will have to do chains from scratch. It does not work out to find the right ones
                1. family tree
                  family tree 15 November 2015 18: 39 New
                  0
                  Et, mother.
                  Good luck bro, nothing more to say
                  zs And why are these screens, on the chassis on the "carrot" what "Cornet", like, how to give a damn what
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 15 November 2015 20: 08 New
                    +3
                    Quote: perepilka
                    And why are these little screens, on the way on the "carrot"

                    Protection of the fodder lure, if I may call it that. I don’t know about the cornet, but in principle I’m not familiar with the cases of this protection being triggered. But at least something is better than nothing.

                    Quote: perepilka
                    Mother

                    I already did one - truth with branded chains, but on the second attempt) (therefore the chain ended) the pleasure is indescribable.
                    1. family tree
                      family tree 15 November 2015 22: 30 New
                      0
                      Quote: Kars
                      I already did one - truth with branded chains, but on the second attempt) (therefore the chain ended) the pleasure is indescribable.

                      One day, the commander, after my campaign, with homies, in the Arkhangelsk taverns, said that the next time, if this happens again, he will beat my face. To the perplexed question: For what? (there were no flights with the command) belay , followed by the answer, (well, the uncle was married repeat) -Of envy request
                      Well, can I slowly, envy without hops, yes fellow Good luck, Andrew.
                      1. Kars
                        Kars 16 November 2015 10: 20 New
                        +1
                        Quote: perepilka
                        Well, can I slowly, envy without hops, yes

                        Please. And this would be an easier process.
        2. onix757
          onix757 15 November 2015 14: 44 New
          +2
          Right. The tanks were intended for military operations in the western direction. Because of innovations, they were not even exported.
          1. family tree
            family tree 15 November 2015 16: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: onix757
            Due to innovations, they were not even exported.

            All the innovations were mainly in the tower. Bullshit is that I'm not a tanker, and not an artilleryman, put me in the place of commander, or gunner, and I'm zero. I was not honored in the tank, sapper and IMRKa, the one on 55-ke.
            Only, this two-stroke, with an ejector-blown radiator, driven by 2500 rpm, in general, either very expensive heat-resistant steel, or can not stand the heat. Kharkov, Malysheva, was experimental, and money was poured there.
            Now, the need is gone. And for export, raw, and tankers ask how many mistakes 72 and 64 forgave.
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        4. Good me
          Good me 15 November 2015 14: 48 New
          +5
          These "courtiers", in a "pancake roll out" are capable of any force that stands in their way.

          The "courtiers" do not fit ... you would also call them "parquet" ...
          1. family tree
            family tree 15 November 2015 15: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Good Me
            The "courtiers" are not suitable.

            Well, at how to look, the courtyard is not only, in the sense, the place where the janitor Stepanov is waving a broom, if in the imperial concept, then ..., not, well, nafig, I better get closer to the kitchen laughing . Cooks, again love , well, you only distract from work what ... the horses are dying, and we, for some reason, how they kick out of retirement, so those who are out of work die faster, although, before that, plowed where the horse is there, a paradox, however what
        5. svp67
          svp67 15 November 2015 21: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Kars
          In the late 80s, it was the T-80UD that they were going to make the USSR a single tank
          I’ll fix it a little, the T80U should be a single tank. I think you understand the difference.
          1. Kars
            Kars 15 November 2015 21: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            I’ll fix it a little, the T80U should be a single tank.

            No, it’s just UD and motors that they don’t like so much that they were going to launch in the Urals.

            Recalls the Head of GBTU (1980-1987) Colonel General Y. Potapov: We have developed a single tank T-80UD with a diesel engine in 1250 hp (in reserve was on 1500 hp) and with more powerful weapons. I reported three times at a special meeting in the Central Committee of the CPSU in the presence of Defense Minister Marshal of the Soviet Union S.F. Sokolov and Deputy Minister of Defense for armament, Army General V.M. Shabanova procedure for re-equipment of plants on the T-80UD tank. An alternate shutdown of the plants for two to three years was foreseen to prepare them for serial production of a single T-80UD tank. the creator of which was General Designer Major General N.A. Shomin at the Malyshev factory. The Central Committee. The CPSU supported my initiative, and the State Planning Commission, together with the Ministry of Defense Industry and the GBTU, prepared a plan for the reconstruction of plants in 2000.
            1. family tree
              family tree 15 November 2015 23: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Kars
              No, just UD

              ruff, ruff, your copper! In the news. Well, they fell back, glory to the Almighty. Not, by any means, four-stroke engines are cheaper and more reliable. Yes, and derivatives of B2, so far, in the north, they sing their song, cool engine pile in Kharkov, for him drinks
      2. Loner_53
        Loner_53 15 November 2015 14: 34 New
        +9
        Quote: perepilka
        I would have believed you, at the expense of dviguns, if not for my specialty "Machines and mechanisms of the forest industry", and qualification "mechanical engineer", "made in USSR"

        Notice how it SOUNDS now "mechanical engineer", "made in USSR" smile hi
        1. family tree
          family tree 15 November 2015 14: 52 New
          +9
          Quote: Loner_53
          Notice how it now SOUNDS "mechanical engineer", "made in USSR" smile

          At one time, we were bombarded with engineers made in the Russian Empire, so, they say, where the engineers were, you, dunce, do not match request laughing
          1. Loner_53
            Loner_53 15 November 2015 16: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: perepilka
            At one time, we were bombarded with engineers made in the Russian Empire, so, they say, where the engineers were, you, dunce, do not match

            Yes, it was like that. laughing
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 15 November 2015 16: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: onix757
      And generally in Kharkov all the advanced ideas in tank building were laid.

      Nevertheless, all Kharkov projects of the 4th generation tank, aka "rebel," boxer "and other" hammers "were completely rejected by the military, as a result of which Leningraders, Omsk and Tagilians were engaged in the development, the result of the work of Tagilians as a result was" object 195 "from which the T-14 conceptually grows))))
      1. onix757
        onix757 15 November 2015 16: 36 New
        +3
        from which T-14 conceptually grows)

        Let's see what grows up. In the Union they could afford such a luxury as conducting several projects at the same time, but now, with one tank factory in operation, you understand, there can be no special choice.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 15 November 2015 16: 48 New
          0
          Quote: onix757
          Let's see what grows up.

          Yes, I really want to see the final look of the production car.
          Quote: onix757
          In the Union they could afford such luxury as conducting several projects at the same time.

          Now, in principle, no one can afford such a thing, neither Americans, nor Europeans, nor Chinese ... For expensive tanks and sophisticated ones have become, and at the same time to carry out several projects - there is no money ...
        2. family tree
          family tree 15 November 2015 16: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: onix757
          you understand, there can be no special choice.

          A couple of competing design bureaus and with one holding can be created. Spread on Omsk and Tagil. On engines, too, but Chelyabinsk is even a competitor what In Yarik, if, so enough of their troubles, strain, so fuck off and it works what
          1. Rader
            Rader 16 November 2015 01: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: perepilka
            Quote: onix757
            you understand, there can be no special choice.

            A couple of competing design bureaus and with one holding can be created. Spread on Omsk and Tagil. On engines, too, but Chelyabinsk is even a competitor what In Yarik, if, so enough of their troubles, strain, so fuck off and it works what

            Competition is good. And if this is a competition of 2 (or more) design bureaus that are part of the same association, then this is generally wonderful. BUT. Why are Omsk residents, not Leningraders? Don’t get me wrong, it’s just a shame for Leningraders, the Design Bureau began to lose their positions, even under the Union (when they decided to abandon the TT and move on to the MBT concept), and the 90s and UVZ lobbyists were buried in the 00th ... I repeat , no offense to the inhabitants of Odessa and Tagil, just looking at the KV-1 and insulting ... request hi
            1. family tree
              family tree 19 November 2015 23: 02 New
              0
              Quote: Rader
              Why are Omsk residents, not Leningraders?

              Sorry for being late, but due to the inhabitants of Omsk and Leningrad:
              1. Omsk under UVZ, then
              with one holding

              2. Omsk to Tagil, in geography, will be closer.
              3. Omsk, the province, however, means there is room for young and zealous, bonzes are everything, to the capital, where it’s warmer, less moneyy and without risk for the ass, so there will be fans.
              4. The main thing is that the T-80U was transferred to Omsk, and they did it, and not the Leningraders, all their latest developments. request hi
    4. Amurets
      Amurets 16 November 2015 01: 13 New
      +2
      The 2-stroke PDP is the most heat-stressed type of engine and from the experience of operating engines of this type I can say: difficult starting, burnout of pistons, scuffing of cylinders are the main defects of diesel engines of this type. I'm not talking about the complexity of adjustments and maintenance. Internet books: Ryazantsev.NK "Motors and Fates". and the book "Technical Description of Diesel Engines 2D-100 10D100. This is a diesel of the same scheme used on railway transport. I myself repaired a diesel engine when I worked on a piece of iron, and a matchmaker served on a T-64. So I know what I am writing.
  19. tinibar
    tinibar 15 November 2015 13: 59 New
    +6
    An article about how everything is garnered in an independent.
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 15 November 2015 14: 44 New
      +3
      Or that Ukraine still has opportunities and resources to maintain a conflict beneficial to the West.
  20. 4thParasinok
    4thParasinok 15 November 2015 13: 59 New
    +4
    Of course, I understand that people need to know what is happening in Ukraine, but why advertise dill on a website and print custom advertising articles?
    1. Isum
      Isum 15 November 2015 14: 22 New
      +3
      Are there potential buyers on the site ??
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 15 November 2015 16: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: IZUM
        Are there potential buyers on the site ??

        I am saving up for a small car ..... BMD-4 is called ...
        1. Altona
          Altona 15 November 2015 23: 31 New
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          I am saving up for a small car ..... BMD-4 is called ...

          ----------------
          And the armored car "Tiger" then what? recourse
      2. Altona
        Altona 15 November 2015 23: 30 New
        0
        Quote: IZUM
        Are there potential buyers on the site ??

        --------------------
        The guys from Donbass seem to be already "regular customers" of the Malyshevsky plant, they are probably pleased to learn about new products and the capabilities of Kharkov tanks, and of the plant as a whole ... The shipment was carried out regularly, with the Ukrainian crew leaving the tank in the neutral zone, where it was taken to parts of Lao PDR ...
    2. theadenter
      theadenter 15 November 2015 14: 58 New
      +5
      I do not see the article’s advertising. We have our own similar tanks, and even better. I see an objectively laid out interview, without propaganda comments and jokes from the author of this reprint.

      Personally, I put a plus neutral article.

      Someone will laugh, someone will scratch the back of his head, someone will seriously worry - everyone will draw his own conclusions. And to protect users from articles that, by all means, are directly related to VO is ridiculous. Our site is not only on Russian weapons.
    3. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 15 November 2015 17: 18 New
      0
      Quote: 4-th Paradise
      Of course, I understand that people need to know what is happening in Ukraine, but why advertise dill on a website and print custom advertising articles?

      In-in! And also reprints from "censor" a.
  21. kasperian_1
    kasperian_1 15 November 2015 14: 02 New
    +1
    In my opinion it is inappropriate to advertise a dill factory for the production of tanks that kill people in Novorossia.
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 15 November 2015 15: 12 New
      +3
      But what about "you need to know the enemy by sight"? wink
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 16 November 2015 01: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Petergofsky73
      In my opinion it is inappropriate to advertise a dill factory for the production of tanks that kill people in Novorossia.

      Firstly, it is a source of information about what is happening at the plant. After all, the destroyed plant was restored by the whole country, not Dill. Secondly, how then can UVZ products be qualified that were repaired at a TRZ in Lviv and thrown into battle? whose hands got the weapon also depends on the people. I came across several books about how the Germans, and ours used captured equipment during the Second World War. One of them is M. Kolomiets. "Trophy tanks of the Red Army."
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 November 2015 14: 09 New
    11
    Who drew attention to the numbers? They are ABSOLUTELY funny. At this rate, this plant will "re-equip" its army for the rest of its life.
    Interestingly, where does he get tank guns? With trunks for rifle shooting in Ukropia, the trouble is generally, for rifled artillery - too, but with tank trunks - how? I have not found a mention anywhere. By the way. A kilo of meat (pork) in Kharkov is 100 g / kg, I recently spoke with a friend.
    The factory does not dream of upgrading the APU, but with export orders in the lower price niche.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 15 November 2015 16: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      , and with tank barrels - how? I have not found a mention anywhere.

      The Sumy Pipe Plant helped. It was the very one that manufactured the high-pressure pipes. But this was a very long time ago, and now, it seems the situation has finally been resolved, all the trunks are mine.
  23. Dimy4
    Dimy4 15 November 2015 14: 22 New
    +3
    ... within our planet ...

    Well, if this goes on, then orders from other planets will begin to arrive.
    1. Isum
      Isum 15 November 2015 14: 24 New
      +1
      Do not dill know something .....
  24. sergv
    sergv 15 November 2015 14: 31 New
    +1
    And that someone doubts that the world behind the scenes will not print green papers to increase the production of weapons in Ukraine? In vain, they themselves agreed - "the world currency", and the central bank is controlled by the FRS, so why be surprised, of course, they will throw in pieces of paper so that there will be a further slaughter of the Russians with each other. And it is not necessary to do it officially, they will just bring in slices of green paper by plane and that's it ...
  25. trakotrah
    trakotrah 15 November 2015 14: 35 New
    +4
    Not "V" Ukraine, but in Ukraine (on the outskirts), write in Russian!
    1. AX
      AX 15 November 2015 16: 55 New
      0
      All the same, "hohloagitprom" works ... Not - "on", but "in" ... ((((
  26. Wolverine
    Wolverine 15 November 2015 14: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
    And given that many vehicles are exported, their armed forces have to be content with "scraps" ...
    The fact that they have business in the first place is a plus, fewer of them will be at the forefront.
  27. sabakina
    sabakina 15 November 2015 14: 53 New
    +1
    [quote = sabakina] [quote = Civil] We must continue to stagger the situation in Kharkov ... [/ quote]
    I read somewhere, the ukrobesheshie themselves consider Kharkov to be "wadded" ... it seems like a censor. lies ...
    And finally, does the "black eagle" exist or not?
    https://youtu.be/JbocwdpJI_g
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    2. sabakina
      sabakina 15 November 2015 16: 20 New
      +1
      Sorry for my double post. Klava died, long live Klava!
  28. Terner38
    Terner38 15 November 2015 14: 59 New
    0
    Let them recover, we will come in handy.
  29. Sailor
    Sailor 15 November 2015 15: 16 New
    +1
    It is bitter to read how the Oplot tank, which is almost in no way inferior to our "Breakthrough", is being produced, and we will still be supplied with an undermodernization in the form of the T-72B3, and why the Oplot, which is not inferior, because it was developed are produced by the same Russian people as we do, and 80 are newer than 72s, I don’t presume to judge whether they brought the diesel to the "mind" and the gun at the Breakthrough of a newer modification, and so the tank is not very bad.
    1. Poplar505
      Poplar505 15 November 2015 16: 07 New
      0
      I think. that another 5 years of this "game" in tug of war and we will lose for Russia the entire eastern outskirts of the country called Ukraine. Not only in industrial, but in socio-demographic terms. There Russian people live while they are Russian in spirit.
    2. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 15 November 2015 17: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Sailor
      It is bitter to read how the Oplot tank, which is almost in no way inferior to our "Breakthrough", is being produced, and we will still be supplied with an undermodernization in the form of the T-72B3, and why the Oplot, which is not inferior, because it was developed are produced by the same Russian people as we do, and 80 are newer than 72s, I don’t presume to judge whether they brought the diesel to the "mind" and the gun at the Breakthrough of a newer modification, and so the tank is not very bad.

      Do not get fooled by this ukrobelnyu. At the end of the article there is a stigma: "censor.net" This is custom-made nonsense, according to which, their "Oplot" (in reality, there are only 5 units in Thailand) has already filled dozens of "Armata" in the Donbas. I specially looked at the materiel. There will be no "Warta" complex on the "Oplot", because the plant remained in the Crimea (Feodossiya). For the same reason, there will be no wind sensor, and a lot of things from the OMS. The entire "Oplot" is mriy svidomitov. And the T-72B3 is a proven, reliable vehicle supplied in large quantities to the Russian troops. There is no reason to worry.
  30. mamont5
    mamont5 15 November 2015 15: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: 79807420129
    The fairy tale is not a fairy tale, only tanks collected in Kharkov by Russian hands will kill Russian people in LDNR, such a fairy tale has come true.

    I doubt it very much. The plant operated earlier using Russian raw materials and components. Now there is neither one nor the other. There is also no money without which there can be no production. During the entire period of the junta's reign, not a single tank was produced from scratch, only repairs and, in many respects, cosmetic "restoration" of equipment removed from storage. So everything that is now being voiced by the junta of different ranks is nothing more than ukrolosungi and their "Wishlist". It's time to get used to the "victorious" screeching ukrohunta.
  31. Wolka
    Wolka 15 November 2015 15: 22 New
    +3
    there was a persistent feeling to give the factory management the wish for the real ...
  32. Fisman
    Fisman 15 November 2015 15: 23 New
    +2
    a tank is certainly more effective than the wall that Ukraine stands on the border with the Russian Federation, but is it possible to win a battle or war at the expense of some tanks?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 15 November 2015 15: 52 New
      +1
      It may sound wild for some users, especially from Ukraine, but Russia should do - EVERYTHING - that this plant would be closed and ruined since it is one of the main suppliers of tanks for punitive Poroshenko.
      1. tank64rus
        tank64rus 15 November 2015 22: 02 New
        +1
        Let the name of Malyshev be removed from the name of the plant, there is nothing to disgrace the name of this Man, one of the creators of the T-34 and other tanks of the USSR. The Russians make tanks, on which the punishers go to kill Russian people just because they want to remain Russian. They dishonored ALL OF US. Americans and others. these traitors are praised, and then they themselves say yes they are second-class people, look how they kill their own people in the Donbass, just for the sake of being considered "Europeans", having lost all independence, they shout about gaining independence. Shame.
      2. tank64rus
        tank64rus 15 November 2015 22: 02 New
        0
        Let the name of Malyshev be removed from the name of the plant, there is nothing to disgrace the name of this Man, one of the creators of the T-34 and other tanks of the USSR. The Russians make tanks, on which the punishers go to kill Russian people just because they want to remain Russian. They dishonored ALL OF US. Americans and others. these traitors are praised, and then they themselves say yes they are second-class people, look how they kill their own people in the Donbass, just for the sake of being considered "Europeans", having lost all independence, they shout about gaining independence. Shame.
  33. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 15 November 2015 15: 51 New
    0
    but I "noticed" that not a single spit, not a single sidelong glance towards Russia in this conversation is not present. either it is blacked out, or the situation changes.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 15 November 2015 16: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Olegovi4
      but I "noticed" that not a single spit, not a single sidelong glance towards Russia in this conversation is not present.

      It's just that "svidomye" have long died out on the site. Whether it was before ... And now it's boring without these "clowns".
  34. Nymp
    Nymp 15 November 2015 16: 11 New
    +1
    Everything in the article is propaganda and a lie. Competent attack in the information war against Russia. Competent, because it is disguised as goodwill on the enemy's website (for the Outskirts) V.O. Here are the bastards.
  35. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 15 November 2015 16: 15 New
    0
    Not, but something, they should have written? That we, having read this nonsense, would be frightened, or envied, or upset. But in my opinion, everyone just spat off and smiled maliciously.
  36. artura0911
    artura0911 15 November 2015 16: 18 New
    0
    Article from the realm of Science Fiction !!))))))
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  38. knobelsdorf
    knobelsdorf 15 November 2015 16: 49 New
    0
    By the way, the contract with Thailand lasts from 2011 and lasts for 3 years-- the result is the delivery of as many as 39 tanks China can supply 200 tanks in two years
  39. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 15 November 2015 16: 54 New
    +2
    The head of the production department of the State Enterprise "Malyshev Plant" Alexander Pashchenko:
    “The company has orders for 5 years ahead. First of all, we are talking about the tank "Oplot". The Ministry of Defense actively supports the production of this combat vehicle. The following year, it was decided to arm the Ukrainian army with dozens of such tanks.


    Citizen A. Pashchenko is somewhat disingenuous about orders, for one reason that is not small. The fact is that in Ukraine there is no production of gun barrels. He was never there when the USSR. That is, they can make tanks, but only without new tank cannons, exclusively by removing the guns from the armored vehicles in storage or repair facilities, which are not measured in Ukraine. But to talk about the reliability and accuracy of firing such weapons is an empty matter, because whoever served in the army knows in what form the equipment went into overhaul. Moreover, the equipment of the training and combat group, which was used mercilessly in combat training, was the first to be repaired.
    Something like this, Dear colleagues. hi
  40. 3officer
    3officer 15 November 2015 16: 55 New
    +2
    I am amazed at how quickly the Kharkiv residents "changed their shoes", literally a year ago they did not allow the monument to Lenin to be knocked down (the point is not in the monument itself, but in relation to what is happening) and generally behaved with dignity. And today, in the forefront of the "ukropatriots" and "you give Donbass !! "
  41. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 15 November 2015 17: 04 New
    0
    Like an employer advertisement! Everything is wonderful, everything is fine. Only they do not attract ads for normal work, this is the law. And the second point: if you want to betray Russia, you can go to work at the Ukrainian military plant!
  42. PValery53
    PValery53 15 November 2015 17: 06 New
    0
    Quote: sergv
    ready to print the extra candy wrappers and unofficially throw in Ukraine

    "The circulation of" green papers "over 3 seas and assumed that at the" cost of printed paper "to achieve strategic goals. But you do not understand? - Well, damn it," the goat understands. "
  43. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 15 November 2015 17: 08 New
    +3
    Please disconnect, our neighbors have a matrix. Return them to the real world. Well, how much can you live in invented reality. And the reality is this. Everyone should, no one needs it. On the one hand are evil, on the other are evil Poles ... And only honest camel drivers valiantly run around the desert, misleading the cruel Russian pilots ... Some are just hardships ...
    Even a smoked benefactor will soon knock over ...
  44. smith7
    smith7 15 November 2015 17: 15 New
    0
    There is no silver lining and vice versa. Country 404 will sooner or later make friends with Russia. Kharkov plant is better not to fall apart, but to work. In addition, people who are employed in production are more sober-minded and less susceptible to Ukraine. In any case, I don’t want to wish evil to these factory workers, because most of them are Soviet people, I really hope that they are potentially loyal to Russia.
  45. Bassoon
    Bassoon 15 November 2015 17: 22 New
    0
    About 6 years ago, one of the cones of this enterprise said that if a soldier knows how to drive a car, he will master the Oplot in five minutes, because it has an automatic transmission.

    Link: http://fakty.ua/19012-harkovchane-gotovyatsya-k-serijnomu-proizvodstvu-novejsheg
    o-ukrainskogo-tanka-oplot-kotoryj-sootvetstvuet-luchshim-mirovym-obrazcam-bronet
    ankovoj-tehniki
  46. cap
    cap 15 November 2015 17: 34 New
    +1
    When will this junta be removed from power by the people of Ukraine?
    Whatever tanks they do they shoot.
    Judging by reports from the DR-LPR, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will attack, shelling is already underway.
    Someone stuffs pockets on orders and simple hard workers plow for a ration of bread.
    The authorities in Ukraine are traitors. That’s it.
  47. Aleksiy
    Aleksiy 15 November 2015 17: 40 New
    0
    Positive article about the company. KhTZ now really has gone up, unlike the same KhAZ. Let me remind you that in Kharkov the flag of Russia was already hoisted on the buildings of the Regional State Administration, but there is no access to the sea near the region, and the presence of a pro-Russian majority is nothing for cunning planners. Two areas both believed and did their best to be with Russia, but instead they are constantly being destroyed turning into ruins under the blows of the Nazis. And working in Kharkov is not at all fun, and therefore they will go to HTZ. Read some comments, so there is only one way for HTZ employees: to quit, having previously destroyed, that they will be able to look towards Moscow with a proudly raised head.
  48. Forest
    Forest 15 November 2015 17: 44 New
    0
    To at least somehow compete now, Oplot needs new ammunition and a new weapon. And so in the future again the same 2A46 with the BMS-22, -29 and -32. Well, 140-mm Bagheera without shells.
  49. PValery53
    PValery53 15 November 2015 17: 51 New
    0
    In vain, the Kharkovites supported the tanks Kiev war gamazdril against Russian in the Donbass. This will come around to them. Kharkov will become an empty town on the sidelines of history.
  50. Kibl
    Kibl 15 November 2015 17: 52 New
    0
    But I still can’t understand in any way, if according to the version of the Ukrop side, Russia is an aggressor and we are in a state of war, then why not carry out a series of sabotage at dill defense plants? !
    1. andrew-z
      andrew-z 15 November 2015 17: 58 New
      +2
      So go ahead, buy a ticket to Belgorod and there on a minibus to Kharkov, go to the factory and decide everything)
    2. nekromonger
      nekromonger 16 November 2015 01: 17 New
      +1
      there’s no reason to arrange sabotage anymore - Malyshev’s factory was killed during the years of independence. 5 tanks in Thailand for 5 years they talk about everything. though soon it will be renamed, because kids are not Bandera and horses are not particularly fond of him and then he will be happy.
      1. max91
        max91 16 November 2015 14: 06 New
        0
        I read that Thailand ordered 49 strongholds