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The KRET called the T-50 (PAK FA) a digital aircraft with smart trim.

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In the concern Radioelectronic Technologies (KRET), the T-50 (also known as PAK FA) aircraft was called “100% digital”. RIA News cites the statement of the First Deputy Director General of KRET Igor Nasenkov, who is at the international aerospace show in the UAE (Dubai):


In terms of its purpose, the PAK FA aircraft does not simply belong to fifth-generation aircraft - fundamentally new ideas are embodied in it. That is, this is already a completely digital aircraft, which not only provides the pilot with information on request, but also provides the pilot with full informational support - for this, the aircraft is equipped with “smart trim”. By "smart trim" we understand that many surfaces of the aircraft are universal antenna systems, which, when used, ensure the integrated use of the entire aircraft resource.


The KRET called the T-50 (PAK FA) a digital aircraft with smart trim.


Igor Nasenkov states that the PAK FA radar complex performs both passive reconnaissance and active geolocation functions, and also serves as a means of electronic warfare.

Igor Nasenkov:
The PAK FA radar will work not only in the front hemisphere - it will also have a number of opportunities for a circular view, so that the pilot has full information about the radar environment, so that without taking maneuvering actions you can find out what is happening left, right, behind automatic mode with a projection on the helmet and on the interactive glass of the cabin.


For reference: T-50 (PAK FA) - the aircraft, designed to combine the functions of a fighter, bomber and attack aircraft. According to the developers, many of the features of the T-50 are automated. In particular, the aircraft can return to the home airfield, even if the pilot is unable to fly the T-50. The first flight of the T-50 made in 2010 year. At 2016, the year is scheduled for the start of serial deliveries of fifth-generation aircraft to the Russian Federation Air Force. The number of aircraft T-50 in the first batch is not reported.
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  1. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 12 November 2015 15: 50 New
    33
    More such glorious cars. soldier good good good
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 12 November 2015 15: 51 New
      16
      Smart is good. We are waiting for the start of serial production!
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 November 2015 16: 26 New
        13
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Smart is good. We are waiting for the start of serial production!

        But the stripes have problems with the F-35 ... Carlson clearly does not want to go through the GSI. And the Raptor is no longer producing (although that bird had enough problems). And what about the amers, except for the loose pipelace at the price of a platinum ingot (if will quit the program Canada, Norway and Australia)?
        And ours flies and his arsenal is wonderful ... if you look like that, then PAK FA is not quite a plane, but rather a robotic heavy fighter platform. Interestingly, they will call it somehow past the standard abbreviation (such as SU-50), like Orlan, Gyrfalcon or something like that ...?
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 12 November 2015 16: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: NEXUS
          Interestingly, in addition to the standard abbreviation (such as SU-50) they will call him something like Orlan, Krechet, or something else? ...

          Or maybe the competition for the name will be announced ??? Almost a UFO from the descriptions.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 November 2015 16: 35 New
            +6
            Quote: Tatar 174
            Or maybe the competition for the name will be announced ??? Almost a UFO from the descriptions.

            By the way, in the framework of our forum, you can arrange such a competition ... suddenly they listen wink
            1. dr.Bo
              dr.Bo 12 November 2015 16: 41 New
              +4
              Quote: NEXUS
              By the way, in the framework of our forum, you can arrange such a competition ... suddenly they listen

              I am for such a competition. I liked the "Robotic platform" drinks ))
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 November 2015 16: 50 New
                +3
                Quote: dr.Bo
                I am for such a contest.

                Then there are two options at once - KORSHUN and HARPIA. Yes and Griffin, nothing sounds like that. wink
                1. Temples
                  Temples 12 November 2015 17: 27 New
                  +1
                  I would call it simply - "Russian".
                  1. _Vladislav_
                    _Vladislav_ 12 November 2015 17: 36 New
                    +8
                    I watched it at MAX this year. Engines are less noisy than dryers. Maneuverability of the Su-35go. Pilotage performed by test pilot Sergei Bogdan, as always on top. Angles of attack are unbelievable. Flat corkscrew, flashes of hot air from friction with wings, a spectacle unmatched. The car - CAN.

                    The MiG-35 will certainly be quicker (well, it’s easier).

                    PS
                    Delivery is scheduled for 2016, I would like to see the use of missile weapons.
                  2. SAN31
                    SAN31 12 November 2015 21: 36 New
                    +2
                    Offer: Veleslav
                2. dckx
                  dckx 13 November 2015 11: 00 New
                  0
                  Sirin - this is an option for the name .... it is very smooth (easy) he performs aerobatics.
            2. Andrey Draganov
              Andrey Draganov 12 November 2015 19: 04 New
              +3
              It is possible, and so that the story does not forget to name the T-34
          2. dpu
            dpu 12 November 2015 19: 26 New
            +3
            For example "Swift" or something else. In general, good names have always "stuck" to our planes. And the cowardly Anglo-Saxons are zealous with horror stories.
            1. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 12 November 2015 20: 15 New
              +2
              Could you call him "Mockingbird"? Let the sworn partners guess what this means, and we will caress our ears!
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        3. Edvagan
          Edvagan 12 November 2015 16: 52 New
          +5
          why "Gyrfalcon"? Just "Arctic fox"))))))))
          1. vladimir_krm
            vladimir_krm 12 November 2015 21: 00 New
            +3
            So, they called it, and Full Polar fox - FullPolarFox, so that the letter F is the first - as amers accepted :)
            1. mav1971
              mav1971 12 November 2015 21: 52 New
              +2
              Quote: vladimir_krm
              So, they called it, and Full Polar fox - FullPolarFox, so that the letter F is the first - as amers accepted :)


              And everyone in the world will laugh, because the Arctic fox eats the fallen carcasses - p-a-d-a-l-b-sh-i-k.

              Head think a little ...
              1. McLuha-MacLeod
                McLuha-MacLeod 13 November 2015 09: 28 New
                0
                Lies!!! Arctic fox feeds on mice and lemings
              2. vladimir_krm
                vladimir_krm 13 November 2015 10: 16 New
                0
                And everyone in the world will laugh, because the Arctic fox eats the fallen carcasses - p-a-d-a-l-b-sh-i-k.

                So, firstly, it was not I who called, but the designers themselves.
                Secondly, "Arctic fox is omnivorous, its food includes about 125 species of animals and 25 species of plants. However, it is based on small rodents, especially lemmings, as well as birds."
                And thirdly, among Amers, even the symbol of the country is the scavenger eagle, and they do not suffer from this :)
        4. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 12 November 2015 17: 04 New
          +1
          "their Carlson clearly does not want to pass the GSE" ///

          Passed by. Air Force, Marines, Australians, British are already flying.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 November 2015 17: 06 New
            +5
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Passed by. Air Force, Marines, Australians, British are already flying.

            I talked about the main version ... and as for the other two, then the document confirming the passage of state tests is excellent in the studio, please.
            Best regards hi
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 12 November 2015 17: 33 New
              -1
              All three versions fly. They produce approximately 30-34 aircraft per year.
              2-3 planes per year less than planned.
              About 5 of them are exported.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 November 2015 17: 37 New
                +6
                Quote: voyaka uh
                All three versions fly. They produce approximately 30-34 aircraft per year.

                You apparently did not understand the question ... the fact that they "fly" although some are not very good, and some do not land very well, this is known ... my question was different- a document confirming passing state tests perfectly in the studio, please.
                My regards hi
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 12 November 2015 17: 44 New
                  10
                  "a document confirming the passage of state tests perfectly in the studio, please" ////

                  Without the end of state. tests do not start production and export
                  delivery. Already released 150 aircraft, flown tens of thousands of hours.
                  Not one is lost - not a single accident in the air. Record for combat
                  aircraft, by the way.

                  Maybe the T-50 will be better, I do not argue, but the F-35 is already on the conveyor.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 12 November 2015 17: 50 New
                    +8
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Without the end of state. tests do not start production and export
                    delivery.

                    I repeat -BASIC VERSION OF F-35 LIGHTING DOES NOT PASS THE STATE OF TESTS! Due to problems and shortcomings, the date of putting into service with the subsequent really serial production of the MADE-UP Mind machines was postponed to 19 year (and this is for now)
                    1. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 12 November 2015 19: 37 New
                      +2
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Maybe the T-50 will be better, I do not argue, but the F-35 is already on the conveyor.

                      I apologize.
                      It’s exactly on the conveyor belt, but it’s not fighting.
                      How many do the US have? hundreds .....
                      The war is on, and the technology in the park. The point then is that they are on the assembly line. In action, no one has seen them yet, all in words.

                      And the fact that the US is in no hurry to use them in real combat conditions raises doubts about their reliability, efficiency, and steepness.

                      PS
                      as they say Russian PONT, more expensive than the American dollar. Only this in your case.
                    2. mav1971
                      mav1971 12 November 2015 22: 05 New
                      +1
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Without the end of state. tests do not start production and export
                      delivery.

                      I repeat -BASIC VERSION OF F-35 LIGHTING DOES NOT PASS THE STATE OF TESTS! Due to problems and shortcomings, the date of putting into service with the subsequent really serial production of the MADE-UP Mind machines was postponed to 19 year (and this is for now)


                      Stop carrying nonsense according to state tests.
                      Americans do not have a Soviet state test scheme.
                      There are 3 interdependent testing schemes.
                      Qualification.
                      Estimated.
                      Operating
                      On their basis, the beginning of deliveries to combat units occurs.
                      If at least one wing is equipped, it means full acceptance.
                      Those who write about the lack of state tests simply do not understand what they are writing about.
                      stop looking like an idiot after grief scribblers ...
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 12 November 2015 22: 14 New
                        +2
                        Quote: mav1971
                        stop looking like an idiot after grief scribblers ...

                        Man, you probably are not familiar with the concept of tact and culture, since you are rude, holy believing that you look smarter from this. So I tell you, no. There is a forum where EVERY person expresses their position and share their opinions. And if you are HAMLO, then you’re not here, but at the bazaar.
                        Quote: mav1971
                        Americans do not have a Soviet state test scheme.
                        There are 3 interdependent testing schemes.
                        Qualification.
                        Estimated.
                        Operating

                        The eggs are the same, only a side view.
                        On this, communication with you I think is useless, since they did not understand the first time. All the best to you and your conceit.
                      2. mav1971
                        mav1971 12 November 2015 23: 54 New
                        0
                        Quote: NEXUS

                        On this, communication with you I think is useless, since they did not understand the first time. All the best to you and your conceit.


                        This is good.
                        One junk will be less.

                        They have already explained to you many times. that your worldview is different from reality.
                        They wrote about 150 airplanes to you precisely in combat air raids - you are stubbornly akin to autism, stupidly carried nonsense about state tests in each of your posts.
                        Not understanding. that the commissioning metrics are completely different. The approaches are completely different.
                        So why are you surprised that at 100501 the explanation will stop communicating with you like with a child?
                        And they will tell you so. as they said in the good old Soviet school?
                      3. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 13 November 2015 00: 03 New
                        +4
                        Quote: mav1971
                        This is good.
                        One junk will be less.

                        Forgive me, you are either impenetrably stupid, or you have megalomania. But this is not for me, but for a psychologist. As far as your explanations are concerned, they DO NOT cost anything.
                        I’ll explain why ... You can call the acceptance of state tests, or phased testing, the essence does not change. And if officials postpone the term until 19 years, then the machine has problems.
                        The fact that they were done 140 pieces DOES NOT SPEAK ABOUT except that they were made and started to be pushed to the allies. And it does not prove the fact that this is a modified and completed machine.
                        Quote: mav1971
                        And they will tell you so. as they said in the good old Soviet school?

                        And now "as in the good old school" ... LEARN TO UNDERSTAND AND HEAR THE OPPONENT, AND DO NOT LET BUBBLES AND BEAT YOURSELF IN THE CHEST!
                      4. mav1971
                        mav1971 13 November 2015 00: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        LEARN TO UNDERSTAND AND HEAR THE OPPONENT, AND DO NOT LAUNCH THE BUBBLES AND BEAT YOURSELF IN THE CHEST!


                        First of all. Do not hysteria and scream! For writing in capital letters on the Internet is considered to be a tantrum!

                        Secondly. Address these words to the mirror first!
                        Be a little wiser.
                        This is what distinguishes a person from a cow.
                        The ability to think.
                        If our (whether mine, other people, many people in principle) words do not tell you anything, then maybe the problem is not in us? And in your perception?
                        Rather, unwillingness to adequately perceive the information that several completely different people convey to you.
                        Different ages, different lifestyles, different educational levels.
                        But you refuse!
                        So maybe somewhere we don’t need to tighten the bolt?
                        So did not try to think?
                        Not?

                        About psychology.
                        Thank you for reminding me of her. This is one of my first specialized disciplines.
                        lol
                        In principle, useful when an applied topic, otherwise - nonsense.

                        In the subject of psychology.
                        I don’t put a minus to anyone.
                        Neither you nor anyone else.
                        For those living in isolation from realities, cons are no longer needed.
                        I put only the advantages of high-quality posts that carry useful information.
                        Because. that sound thoughts and the development of thinking skills should be encouraged.
                        Psychology however!
                        Good to you, dear man!

                        Threat. And do not hysteria pliz anymore!
                      5. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 13 November 2015 00: 58 New
                        +1
                        Quote: mav1971
                        First of all. Do not hysteria and scream! For writing in capital letters on the Internet is considered to be a tantrum!

                        My dear man, if I wrote you, you read not with the intonation with which I write, so who is the problem?
                        Quote: mav1971
                        Be a little wiser.
                        This is what distinguishes a person from a cow.

                        And again, absolute deafness to the words and the meaning of what was said ... Your attempts to hurt a person, ... well, they are just comical from the outside (I specially write in small font ... that is, in a whisper)
                        Quote: mav1971
                        Rather, unwillingness to adequately perceive the information that several completely different people convey to you.

                        I always perceive adequate information with pleasure. But it’s adequate, not the drool that you lit, rushing and insulting people.
                        Quote: mav1971
                        So maybe somewhere we don’t need to tighten the bolt?

                        You know, not every twisted bolt speaks of your adequacy, since you do not want to hear the essence of what they say. You probably have two truths, yours and wrong, which once again speaks of your deafness in perceiving reciprocal arguments.
                        Quote: mav1971
                        This is one of my first specialized disciplines.

                        I sincerely sympathize with your patients fellow
                        Quote: mav1971
                        I don’t put a minus to anyone.
                        Neither you nor anyone else.

                        Do you think I put them to you? Meaning? We cannot discuss the topic without your "bubbles" and the distribution of stupid labels.
                        Quote: mav1971
                        Good to you, dear man!

                        And all the best to you. hi
                      6. oblako
                        oblako 13 November 2015 07: 07 New
                        +1
                        Why swear then?) Well, they fly, current with restrictions ... they will bring the design to mind, they will modernize the restrictions will be removed. We also had stories with equipment that fought, but officially in service on the accepted one. The reality is that they are still introducing R&D results faster than we are, and this is essential for defense, and we need to work hard on this. The fact that in this component, we can also do something ... the past war has proved. And the criterion "cost - efficiency" has not been canceled, and there are good examples: T-34, AK-47, etc.
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          2. Wiskar
            Wiskar 12 November 2015 22: 06 New
            +1
            The first pair of Israeli F35 will be delivered at the end of 2016. Others will arrive in 2017.
            And these are the words of the director of Lockheed Martin said just a week ago.
            Also solved the problem with the gun system hi
            1. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 12 November 2015 22: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Wiskar
              Also solved the problem with the gun system

              Damp car - guys. In conditions close to combat - people can suffer (and in combat - generally ... die) How can this be? Not a run-in model to the allies ?! Or they are "ALLIES" for YOU
            2. Wiskar
              Wiskar 12 November 2015 23: 18 New
              +2
              How can that be? Not a run-in model to the allies ?! Or they are "ALLIES" for YOU


              They’ve been running around for a long time, in Israel the F-35 squadron was created, there is already someone who will lead it.
              In December 2016, the first F-35s will arrive - already run-in and tested by Israeli pilots. Believe me, Israeli pilots are top-class professionals and they will check everything hi
      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 12 November 2015 17: 56 New
        +7
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Without the end of state. tests do not start production and export deliveries

        Nevertheless, the F-35 has not completed state tests, has not been adopted for service, and its achievement of "full combat readiness" is expected no earlier than 2017. As if well-known facts.
        And the fact that frankly crude aircraft are produced in dozens of units a year, and even shoved to the Allies, says a lot, but nothing good.
      3. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 12 November 2015 20: 17 New
        -1
        But how is his price? It seems like he is too expensive. Even gold of the same weight costs less.
        1. Ivan Susanin
          Ivan Susanin 12 November 2015 22: 35 New
          0
          What do you (critics of high cost) constantly pester at the price? In the US, money is like a fool's candy wrappers. And if it is not enough, they will borrow it. He grows and everyone on the drum at him. Still borrowed. Money is paper, but aircraft are being delivered.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 November 2015 22: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: Ivan Susanin
            What do you (critics of high cost) constantly pester at the price? In the US, money is like a fool's candy wrappers. And if it is not enough, they will borrow it. He grows and everyone on the drum at him. Still borrowed. Money is paper, but aircraft are being delivered.

            Any economist will tell you and "chew" that it is simply impossible to turn on the "printing press" indefinitely. And if everything is so simple, tell me why the Americans did not continue to produce the Raptor, which is an order of magnitude better than Lighting, if the price does not matter to them? , they have not resumed production to this day.
        2. Wiskar
          Wiskar 12 November 2015 23: 26 New
          +1
          But how is his price? It seems like he is too expensive. Even gold of the same weight costs less.


          The first contracts, then it will be cheaper.
          According to the director of Lockheed Martin, for Israel, the cost of a unit including spare parts is 126 million. The second order is approximately 110 million, and by 2018, according to the US Department of Defense, approximately 85 million per unit.

          By the way, how much does the T-50 (PAK FA) cost approximately?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 November 2015 23: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Wiskar
            The first contracts, then it will be cheaper.
            According to the director of Lockheed Martin, for Israel, the cost of a unit including spare parts is 126 million. The second order is approximately 110 million, and by 2018, according to the Ministry of Defense, approximately 85 million per unit.

            For Israel, such prices are possible ... but for other "shareholders"? And you can find out what is the cost of servicing this product?
            Quote: Wiskar
            By the way, how much does the T-50 (PAK FA) cost approximately?

            To do this, you need to at least roughly know what is installed on it and what the cost of all the work is. But we are talking about an EXPERIENCED machine, not a serial machine ... the numbers are different ... and the expansion from $ 50 million to 100 ... serial the car, I think it will cost 60-70 million. But this is my opinion.
            Sincerely. hi
    2. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 13 November 2015 04: 09 New
      0
      Good or not, but f-35s fly. And the number of aircraft produced is much higher than in the Russian Federation. But Mr. Nasenkov wanders around the exhibitions, with the blue dream of a cherished contract. They themselves haven’t got a sleeve yet, but there! It’s better not to sing defframbs, but to come up with names (call at least a pot, just don’t put in the oven). This is a pathology! Aircraft must be built, debugged and delivered exclusively to the Russian aerospace forces.
  2. _Vladislav_
    _Vladislav_ 12 November 2015 17: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: voyaka uh
    All three versions fly. They produce approximately 30-34 aircraft per year.
    2-3 planes per year less than planned.
    About 5 of them are exported.

    Well, the fact that the F-35 is widely present on the international market, and the fact that they fly on it, does not require proof. It's obvious. A lot of cars, like the fifth generation, the harm would be cool.

    One thing is not clear why they did not find their application in real combat conditions?
    There is where to apply, and the car is resting. Instead, work veterans F-18, F-16.
    Is it really not interesting to Americans what their airplane of the future is capable of?
    (The same goes for the raptor - the war is on, and the plane is gathering dust on the shelf).

    PS
    Americans love to celebrate the fact that they have 5th generation aircraft in a hundred. Well, what's the use of these hundreds? If they are afraid to let them into battle.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 17: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: _Vladislav_
      (The same goes for the raptor - the war is on, and the plane is gathering dust on the shelf).

      Raptor in Syria is used as reconnaissance aircraft... such an expensive 5th generation scout wassat
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 12 November 2015 19: 39 New
        +7
        Well, yes, they did, it’s when they buy a jeep for 5 lyam. But they don’t go to ravines, they are afraid to spoil the paint.
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 12 November 2015 19: 56 New
          +8
          Quote: guzik007
          Well, yes, they did, it’s when they buy a jeep for 5 lyam. But they don’t go to ravines, they are afraid to spoil the paint.

          it's like a hammer-h2 for example. Big powerful jeep. But a pancake in the mud will blow off (and snow - personally verified) as it is very heavy. UAZ Patriot 1000 times passable.
    2. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 12 November 2015 20: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: _Vladislav_
      One thing is not clear why they did not find their application in real combat conditions?

      What is there to guess, the mattresses are afraid that in real combat conditions the F-35 will show all its flaws, carefully hidden from the general public! Suddenly it turns out that he is even worse than the Mig-29. I do not exclude ...
  • mav1971
    mav1971 12 November 2015 21: 55 New
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Smart is good. We are waiting for the start of serial production!

    But the stripes have problems with the F-35 ... Carlson clearly does not want to go through the GSI. And the Raptor is no longer producing (although that bird had enough problems). And what about the amers, except for the loose pipelace at the price of a platinum ingot (if will quit the program Canada, Norway and Australia)?
    And ours flies and his arsenal is wonderful ...


    Where does he fly?
    In which combat unit?
    what is his arsenal?
    Already tested and tested?

    Do not share the skins of an unkilled bear!
    don't say gop!
    Do not boast about going to the army!
    How many dumbasses do you still need to give a thousand-year-old Russian life experience (suffered by the blood of blood), so that you would be smarter at least half a cup?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 21: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: mav1971
      Where does he fly?
      In which combat unit?
      what is his arsenal?
      Already tested and tested?

      Do not share the skins of an unkilled bear!
      don't say gop!
      Do not boast about going to the army!
      How many dumbasses do you still need to give a thousand-year-old Russian life experience (suffered by the blood of blood), so that you would be smarter at least half a cup?

      Dear, why be rude? Have you ever seen somewhere in my posts that PAK FA is already a production car?
      Yes, it flies and yes, for the most part, the arsenal has been tested ...
      Read carefully, and then comment.
    2. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 12 November 2015 23: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: mav1971
      How many dumbasses do you still need to give a thousand-year-old Russian life experience (suffered by the blood of blood), so that you would be smarter at least half a cup?

      MINUSED - YOU are the second. Reason: Well, you see - well, why so? This is not entirely respectful, gender Corsica or Carp. Where is the guarantee that you are not a squid, etc.
      P.E. of course - let's get it somehow - more cool .... all things ...
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 13 November 2015 00: 04 New
        -2
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        Quote: mav1971
        How many dumbasses do you still need to give a thousand-year-old Russian life experience (suffered by the blood of blood), so that you would be smarter at least half a cup?

        MINUSED - YOU are the second. Reason: Well, you see - well, why so? This is not entirely respectful, gender Corsica or Carp. Where is the guarantee that you are not a squid, etc.
        P.E. of course - let's get it somehow - more cool .... all things ...


        100 times can be cooler, 120 times ...
        But much more?
        Though ssy in the eye - all God's dew!
        Well, how do you explain to me how?
        How to convey to a person. what is one (albeit 6) prototype unequal to 150 aircraft in combat units?
        How can they compare?
        Do they have a brain at the level of a kindergarten child?
        Or are they just fat trolls?
        But then they really do not troll us, but the real state of our defense!
        And if they are trolling the real state of our defense industry, then to whose mill they then pour water?
        Obviously not in Russian.
        Remains the State Department or Geyropa?
        So are they really enemies then?
        After all, is it so? lol
        Keyboard swipe worthy then? lol
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  • cniza
    cniza 12 November 2015 15: 58 New
    +3
    Quote: cerbuk6155
    More such glorious cars. soldier good good good



    Swan song and not a plane and really PLANE
    In particular, the aircraft may return to the airfield, even if the pilot is not able to pilot the T-50.
  • gav6757
    gav6757 12 November 2015 16: 12 New
    +6
    More good and different planes!
    Fear the Anglo-Saxon nits, Russia is reborn !!!
    1. Artyom
      Artyom 12 November 2015 16: 38 New
      +1
      for the attack, I think the plane should be different.
  • Civil
    Civil 12 November 2015 16: 44 New
    +1
    It's time to cut the 6th generation - a suborbital drone!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 16: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      It's time to cut the 6th generation - a suborbital drone!

      Something like this ... it’s clear that this is just a cartoon, but some thoughts are very interesting.
  • Tor5
    Tor5 12 November 2015 17: 03 New
    +1
    Hurry up in a series and, accordingly, in the Armed forces.
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  • wow
    wow 12 November 2015 18: 47 New
    +2
    Handsome man! I envy white envy !!!
  • KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 12 November 2015 15: 53 New
    +8
    This is really an apparatus for aerospace forces!
  • lexx2038
    lexx2038 12 November 2015 15: 53 New
    14
    I hope the Chinese will not sell yet?
    1. just exp
      just exp 12 November 2015 15: 57 New
      +5
      the Chinese have their 5th generation, and we will supply the Indians, they have been with us here for a long time in cooperation.
  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 12 November 2015 15: 53 New
    +5
    First of all, we are waiting for a new engine, in a series only later ..
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 12 November 2015 16: 34 New
      +3
      There would be an engine on antigravs fellow yes good
      There are no doubts about the fact that the engine will fall.
      1. Col.
        Col. 12 November 2015 16: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Tatar 174
        There would be an engine on antigravs


        And if you add gravitsapu, it’ll be really cool ... lol
        1. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 12 November 2015 20: 29 New
          +5
          Quote: Colonel
          And if you add gravitsapu

          A bit off topic. Once from Hollywood we called our director Danelia (who shot the film "Kin-dza-dza") and asked how he filmed special effects with the flight of a pepelats. Danelia decided to joke and replied that there were no special effects, they just gave him a gravicap at the USSR Ministry of Defense. And after a while, Danelia called from the Ministry of Defense and was advised not to joke around like that anymore - Hollywood got it all out with requests to borrow a gravitsapa for a while! I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be true.
  • pascal309
    pascal309 12 November 2015 15: 54 New
    +4
    This of course is all beautiful. When will the car go to the troops? Either 2015, then 2016, and then they say 2017?
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 12 November 2015 22: 08 New
      0
      Quote: pascal309
      This of course is all beautiful. When will the car go to the troops? Either 2015, then 2016, and then they say 2017?

      2019 at best, the first combat machine will be.
  • Altona
    Altona 12 November 2015 15: 55 New
    +4
    Wow possibilities ... That is, the plane will return to the base in any case, and even completely scans the situation around it ...
  • H - ck 61
    H - ck 61 12 November 2015 15: 58 New
    +5
    Designers are just great!))))
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    2. Col.
      Col. 12 November 2015 16: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: N - ck 61
      Designers are just great!))))


      Key phrase:
      According to the developers,


      Combining two quotes, we get the question: "do we trust the fellows"?
      You can say anything, nobody canceled the advertising moves. For my service, I regularly studied very serious and respected foreign and domestic publications (including those printed), in which the developers and manufacturers of aircraft in ALL countries actively advertised their products. Almost always, this advertisement turned out to be a "declaration of intent"... Trust my many years of experience. So let's wait and see. In the meantime, there is no need to prematurely "shout hurray and throw their caps into the air", otherwise many already "with joy in the goiter stopped breathing" ...
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 12 November 2015 16: 04 New
    +3
    Base airfields probably also need to be prepared (means for landing) After all, Buran flew back in 1988 and sat down without a crew
  • ZSP
    ZSP 12 November 2015 16: 12 New
    +1
    Well, fiction begins to translate into reality:

    "it will also have a number of possibilities for all-round visibility, so that the pilot has complete information about the radar situation, so that, without taking maneuvering actions, he can find out what is happening to the left, right, behind in automatic mode with projection on the helmet and on the interactive glass of the cabin."
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 12 November 2015 22: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: ZSP
      Well, fiction begins to translate into reality:

      "it will also have a number of possibilities for all-round visibility, so that the pilot has complete information about the radar situation, so that, without taking maneuvering actions, he can find out what is happening to the left, right, behind in automatic mode with projection on the helmet and on the interactive glass of the cabin."


      Those. we will repeat that helmet about which the local uryakalka scattered all their drool - "sawing the dough" and other nonsense ..
      So I get it?
      Those. a highly functional helmet and development of a heap of equipment for it - it turns out that the need is not sawing but fighting?
  • Engineer
    Engineer 12 November 2015 16: 13 New
    +1
    L-band radar is located in the wing edges for preliminary detection of American invisibles.
    1. Iline
      Iline 12 November 2015 17: 41 New
      +2
      By "smart skin" we mean that many aircraft surfaces are universal antenna systems, which, when applied, ensure the integrated use of the entire aircraft resource.

      But this problem was already worked on in the 80s, but then it didn’t work out very well due to the poor development of electronics. But 35 years have passed and I see (or hear in the article) the result. If this is indeed so done on the domestic element base - honor and praise to the designers.
      This is really a serious leap forward. hi
    2. mav1971
      mav1971 13 November 2015 00: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      L-band radar is located in the wing edges for preliminary detection of American invisibles.


      And he certainly fit there?
  • LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 12 November 2015 16: 13 New
    0
    these are elements (smart skin) related to generation 6 or at least 5+
  • IAlex
    IAlex 12 November 2015 16: 14 New
    -7
    Have a nice breakfast ...
    1. lukewarm
      lukewarm 12 November 2015 16: 35 New
      +3
      Well kagbe lunch, Comrade General. What does Rollton have to do with it? By the way, they also eat it. I read your other comments and realized that it was no coincidence here. Eat it yourself.
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 12 November 2015 16: 37 New
        -7
        The same cheap and popular instant noodles for the general public. It’s better for patients not to read my comments - they begin to have wild itching of the CWS and personality disorder ... And cheers-patriots of bon appetit, especially at your own expense ...
        1. shans2
          shans2 12 November 2015 17: 10 New
          0
          what is it?

          f-35 UG
          1. IAlex
            IAlex 12 November 2015 17: 15 New
            +1
            Yes, net, just not a crazy patriot ...
            1. shans2
              shans2 12 November 2015 17: 18 New
              0
              Makarevich, sing a song about shit tongue
              1. IAlex
                IAlex 12 November 2015 17: 21 New
                -2
                Sorry, but Makarevich is now on a liberal tour ... T.ch. contact him with this request, and indeed why sing an extra song about you, because you already smell good on the forum ... yes
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 12 November 2015 17: 46 New
                  +8
                  But essentially any comments will be? If KRET hangs noodles - then tell us what exactly. In all the chilling details.
    2. MMX
      MMX 12 November 2015 19: 36 New
      0
      Quote: IAlex
      Have a nice breakfast ...


      To my deepest regret, of the few crumbs of information that have been passed to me, I think that you are right. Perestroika and the 90s were not in vain .. Alas.
  • Simon
    Simon 12 November 2015 16: 15 New
    +1
    And I like the fact that KRET's friends sound menacing. good
  • LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 12 November 2015 16: 15 New
    0
    Friends. don't consider me a complete cynic. but I really want to see a good movie about our pilots. Like: "ONE are going to battle!"
  • FID
    FID 12 November 2015 16: 17 New
    +5
    and active geolocation


    Geolocation - non-destructive detection and investigation of subsurface objects of soil media by radar sensing

    Geolocation - determining the geographic location of an Internet user.


    Forum users, choose what Nasenkov said!
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 12 November 2015 16: 29 New
      +3
      Your knowledge at the level of quotes from Wikipedia is simply amazing! Geolocation is the determination of the position of an object using a positioning system. Whether the user is on the network, or the position of the phone in the operator’s radio network, or the position of the GPS signal receiver with reference to geographical coordinates, there are a lot of options.
  • barclay
    barclay 12 November 2015 16: 25 New
    +1
    In particular, the aircraft may return to the airfield, even if the pilot is not able to pilot the T-50.
    It can be theoretically assumed that the possibility of using it in an unmanned version is laid in this aircraft. This is a very strong idea. God grant that everything would turn out.
  • dvg79
    dvg79 12 November 2015 16: 26 New
    +5
    It seems that he said something, but really nothing. There is essentially no plane, there are prototypes, there is no engine, no AFAR. When will the combat-ready apparatus be presented? Su27 was brought to the USSR several years after the start of production, I doubt that our barely breathing military industry will be able to do this faster, especially such a complex machine. for the best.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 12 November 2015 16: 26 New
    0
    The tale is simple and not a plane! Here it is ve-ee-eeeeeesh, good this is me wink Let now turnip what scratch our sworn lol "friends" bully !!!
  • Platonich
    Platonich 12 November 2015 16: 33 New
    0
    What a beautiful and smart bird! May God grant her a long and long flight!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 18: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Platonitch
      What a beautiful and smart bird! May God grant her a long and long flight!

      1. nemo778
        nemo778 12 November 2015 21: 54 New
        +1
        Thanks! for a good video! By the way, I drew attention to the badges "dangerous radiation" not only! on the nose cone! So "KRET" is not lying! love fellow
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 12 November 2015 22: 02 New
          +3
          Quote: nemo778
          Thanks! for a good video! By the way, I drew attention to the badges "dangerous radiation" not only! on the nose cone! So "KRET" is not lying! love fellow

          You are always welcome ... but the car is not finished yet. It will pass the state tests, will be adopted and put into production ... and then we will rejoice from the bottom of our hearts.
          As for the filling, one can only guess what was "stuffed" there and what this handsome man is capable of.
          Best regards hi
  • INF
    INF 12 November 2015 16: 51 New
    0
    How much is a helmet for this aircraft? ;)
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 12 November 2015 22: 14 New
      0
      Quote: INF
      How much is a helmet for this aircraft? ;)


      Exactly.
      And where did our idiots stick their tongues that the Yankees and the Israelis stigmatized for the terrible cut of dough on helmets?
  • Aurum
    Aurum 12 November 2015 17: 00 New
    0
    CONCRETELY CUTTING smile
  • fest 1973
    fest 1973 12 November 2015 17: 03 New
    +1
    On Victory Day I would like to see. If it doesn’t hurt, then generally FUN laughing will be!
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 12 November 2015 17: 10 New
    0
    I would call this machine-GOD-MOL. Let all those against whom it is used be prayed to God.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 12 November 2015 17: 14 New
    +1
    What about the sides with numbers 6 -1, 2. Tell your taxpayers, we don’t ask about y71.
    1. TSOOBER
      TSOOBER 13 November 2015 10: 16 New
      0
      Condition on November 5th.
      T-50-1 - 253 hours, 215 landings.
      T-50-2 - 230 hours, 232 landings.
      T-50-3 - 327 hours, 168 landings, weapons tests are being carried out.
      T-50-4 - 206 hours, 143 landing, eliminating fuel leaks in the niche of the chassis, OGRO and BGRO.
      T-50-6-2 is currently in the process of applying RPP, T-50-9 is in the final assembly shop.
      T-50-6-2 - assembly after application of the RPP according to the schedule - 30.12., Then the development of systems, 3-6.02. - frequency tests, the first flight - 25.02., transportation to the An-124 to Zhukovsky - 01.03.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      T-50-8 - transfer to LIS according to the schedule 05.12., Application of RPP - 29.12.-03.02., Frequency - 13-16.02, first flight - 10.03., Transportation to Zhukovsky - 15.03.2016.
  • hannibal lecter
    hannibal lecter 12 November 2015 17: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: gav6757
    More good and different planes!
    Fear the Anglo-Saxon nits, Russia is reborn !!!


    This is not Russia reborn, but the USSR is knocking from the grave.
    1. fest 1973
      fest 1973 12 November 2015 17: 27 New
      +3
      Those would knock .db!
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 November 2015 17: 31 New
    +3
    The device is clearly not for ordinary use.
    More like a special forces among ordinary aircraft.
    And it will be used by a similar technique, everything is quiet,
    imperceptibly and with 100% result.
  • SNG
    SNG 12 November 2015 17: 55 New
    +1
    I suggest a name. "FAK-U"
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 17: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: SNG
      I suggest a name. "FAK-U"

      Comrade, this is not our method! laughing More constructive please. yes
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 12 November 2015 18: 10 New
    +2
    So far this is only an advance. We’ll be happy when these cars begin to arrive in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
  • Yarik
    Yarik 12 November 2015 19: 16 New
    +1
    The fact that ours are trying very hard to bring him regular troops is certainly very pleasing, but how much I follow the news about the T-50 is not mentioned anywhere for his native engines. Mention only transitional options. I really want him to go to the series with his native engines.
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 12 November 2015 19: 42 New
    +1
    A breakthrough, but too expensive car. By today's times, hardly an IKS
    will receive a significant number of such machines, piece goods. Very sorry.
  • Berthan
    Berthan 12 November 2015 20: 32 New
    +1
    ... return to the airfield, even if the pilot is not able to pilot the T-50.


    When he also learns to pull in a pilot who is "unable" to pull in, it will be a dream car ...
  • S-cream
    S-cream 12 November 2015 20: 48 New
    +1
    And about engines that should keep supersonic on cruising, and not on afterburner, as before - silence. No information. Neither reliable nor false ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 20: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: S-cream
      And about engines that should keep supersonic on cruising, and not on afterburner, as before - silence.

      These engines AL-41F1 ("product 117"), which are now on the PAK FA, also withstand all modes for fighters of the 5th generation ... "Product 30" is undergoing factory tests. The engine of the second stage will be 15-18% more economical (and this Serious application). They say that the new engine will begin to be installed in the year 18 (although this is conditional). So far they have not talked about the change in terms. Everything else is a state secret, which has not been canceled. hi
    2. mav1971
      mav1971 12 November 2015 22: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: S-cream
      And about engines that should keep supersonic on cruising, and not on afterburner, as before - silence. No information. Neither reliable nor false ...


      For "extremely tight" is "30-tka".
      It is complicated for us so far.
      The motor school then lost 20 years of continuity of personnel change.
      Unassailable not to do it.
      If he goes into the series in 18-19 years and it will be good!
  • cerber
    cerber 13 November 2015 01: 23 New
    0
    so that the pilot has little to kill him for these words
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 13 November 2015 06: 06 New
    0
    Electronics is good, but electronic warfare does not stand still !!!
  • Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 13 November 2015 21: 02 New
    +1
    Mav1971: How to convey to a person. that one (even 6) prototype is not equal to 150 aircraft in combat units?


    But who told you so much about military units? And what are they not in battle? First you need to remember that there are no combat units that have combatant units (and therefore non-combatant) that have reached the established level of combat readiness and are capable of fulfilling combat tasks (and it happens that a combat unit is not combat ready) and combat units that carry out the development of military equipment including). So, in the second case, military equipment, as it were, is actively being exploited, albeit with certain limitations inherent in the mastered equipment, but at the same time it is. .. not in combat, not listed. Well, tell me: what’s the difference between the absent quantitatively (BYE) T-50 and the seemingly serial F-35 (STILL) absent, but qualitatively? In my opinion - no, even let these lightnings rivet a thousand. The criterion of truth is battle!