KRET: in November, the military will be delivered to the complex, turning the bombers into electronic warfare aircraft

The first batch of special containers that turn the Su-34 into an EW aircraft will be delivered to the military department in the current month, reports RIA News report of Igor Nasenkov, Deputy Director General of Concern Radioelectronic Technologies.




"The first batch will be delivered in November of this year," said the deputy head at the air show in Dubai.

"The Defense Ministry will receive the first batch of so-called stackable stackers installed under the fuselage, which will make it possible to turn a standard Su-34 into a specialized electronic warfare aircraft that can protect not only itself, but also ensure effective radio jamming of radar systems and anti-aircraft missile systems watch and so on - that is, the protection and other aircraft of the group ",
told Nasenkov.

Agency reference: Holding "Radioelectronic Technologies Concern" was established in 2009. Main areas of activity: development and production of systems and complexes of avionics for civil and military aviation"airborne radar stations, state recognition tools, electronic warfare systems."

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  1. Sasha 19871987 12 November 2015 15: 26 New
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    someone like me, this news caused a genuine smile))) fly-bomb and blind the enemy, very great news
    1. cniza 12 November 2015 15: 33 New
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      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      someone like me, this news caused a genuine smile))) fly-bomb and blind the enemy, very great news



      Three in one, as they say, is very pleasant news and I think that this will not reduce the payload.
      1. hrych 12 November 2015 15: 38 New
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        1. viktor561 12 November 2015 16: 01 New
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          Hrych - this is super - I’ll show the technicians guys - they were quite lazy
          1. i80186 12 November 2015 16: 27 New
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            Quote: viktor561
            Hrych - this is super - I’ll show the technicians guys - they were quite lazy

            So judging by the points and helmet - this is a pilot. Do not show to technicians. smile
            1. AID.S 12 November 2015 17: 15 New
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              Such a plane is not needed! :-)
              1. crazyrom 13 November 2015 02: 36 New
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                Exactly a week ago, I just wrote about it:
                Most interestingly, no one pays attention to the very gas turbine at Su-34. This is superfluous ENERGY. 105 kilowatts. This opens up tremendous opportunities. For starters, you can have powerful EW systems, such as AWACS. If not by one plane, then 2-3 for sure. Su-34 seems to be already flying with the Khibiny on the wingtips. Then, you can more powerful radar, regardless of electricity.

                right here http://topwar.ru/85660-su-34-protiv-f-15e-yarost-nebes.html#comment-id-5183079
      2. Starover_Z 12 November 2015 15: 45 New
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        Quote: cniza
        I think this will not reduce the payload.

        And then “bash to bash” - or carry anti-radar missiles, reducing the load to defeat combat targets, or carry one container with the option of jamming within a certain radius of the entire ground electronic!
        I think that the special container is even more profitable when the group departs!
      3. Tatar 174 12 November 2015 16: 24 New
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        Quote: cniza
        Three in one, as they say, is very nice news and I think that this will not reduce the payload

        The most important thing in everything is not even this, but the fact that in the near future not a single p @ dl @ and close to our planes will dare to approach, the story of Donald Cook probably everyone knows and will remember for a long time laughing
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    3. NEXUS 12 November 2015 15: 46 New
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      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      someone like me, this news caused a genuine smile))) fly-bomb and blind the enemy, very great news

      Someone recently tried to compare the F-15 with the SU-34 ... now it’s interesting to listen to the comparisons ...
      1. Falcon 12 November 2015 16: 03 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Someone recently tried to compare the F-15 with the SU-34 ... now it’s interesting to listen to the comparisons ...


        And what's new in this news. We have known about the container for a long time.
        It is one with 90 rear and front hemisphere viewing sectors.



        Todg needs to be compared with F-18G



        Only he carries 7 containers and an all-round overview.

        By the way, in F-18G, Australians are remade the usual F-18. Those. no problem.

        Well, you can hang one of the containers on the F-15, nothing will change.

        Just do not forget about the upgraded F-15E with AFAR. Which can already act as a narrow-minded electronic warfare ...

        1. NEXUS 12 November 2015 16: 18 New
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          Quote: Falcon
          Just do not forget about the upgraded F-15E with AFAR. Which can already act as a narrow-minded electronic warfare ...

          And the power and capabilities of such an electronic warfare system that will be installed on the "duckling" are known?
          Best regards hi
          1. Just BB 12 November 2015 19: 53 New
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            Quote: NEXUS

            And the power and capabilities of such an electronic warfare system that will be installed on the "duckling" are known?



            “Or maybe the keys to the apartment where the money is ?!” fool
            1. NEXUS 12 November 2015 20: 09 New
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              Quote: Just VV
              “Or maybe the keys to the apartment where the money is ?!”

              I’m also, dear, that the "duckling", I’m sure, this electronic warfare complex is more powerful and can solve tasks more voluminous than the one that stands on the F-15
              Best regards hi
              1. Just BB 12 November 2015 20: 15 New
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                "Duckling" is a strike aircraft, the 15th is a heavy fighter - of course they have different systems.
                Only to us here (on the forum) why?
                1. NEXUS 12 November 2015 20: 20 New
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                  Quote: Just VV
                  "Duckling" is a strike aircraft, the 15th is a heavy fighter - of course they have different systems.
                  Only to us here (on the forum) why?

                  Then, that not so long ago, three articles were published on the VO about comparing these machines. Browse through the articles archive.
                  My regards. hi
              2. mav1971 12 November 2015 23: 40 New
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                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: Just VV
                “Or maybe the keys to the apartment where the money is ?!”

                I’m also, dear, that the "duckling", I’m sure, this electronic warfare complex is more powerful and can solve tasks more voluminous than the one that stands on the F-15
                Best regards hi


                L-175В, which stands on the Su-34, began to be developed in the 1977 year.
                Those. any sane person understands that the elemental base and algorithms in it are still used.
                Since then, she has been lying and waiting for the start of production of the Su-34.
                Just waiting stupidly.
                Compare the computers of the year 75 and modern ones?

                We go further - the first AFAR created in the Soviet Union / Russia dates back to 2005 year.
                Schemes of its work, algorithms in the distant 77 year - it was just terra incognita.
                About AFAR in the 1977 year did not even stutter in the projects.
                I must say right away that it is not recommended to confuse PFAR and AFAR. For the construct is still different and the algorithms are all the more different.
                About LPI mode, about broadband noise-like transmission - then did not hear.
                so here
                work with a narrow beam of 1,5-2 degrees in AFAR - and the Khibiny are powerless!
                Tuning the operating frequency of 1200 once a second in the widest range - the hibins simply do not have time to perceive the signal, because they are old.
                Khibiny outdated! Fact.
                It is necessary to make new systems already with an understanding of the working schemes of AFAR and its algorithms. Using almost supercomputer processors, otherwise it is extremely problematic to fight such crap.
                1. opus 13 November 2015 01: 36 New
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                  Quote: mav1971
                  L-175В, which stands on the Su-34, began to be developed in the 1977 year.

                  In 1977 about SU-34 and did not think
                  In 1977, at KNIRTI, research began on the creation of electronic jamming complexes on base of functional blocks of basic structures (FBBK)

                  In 1984, the development of the "Khibiny-10В" / L-175В "Khibiny-10В" complex
                  Quote: mav1971
                  Just waiting stupidly.

                  Yeah...don't write bullshit. You might think besides SU-34 we have nothing (SU-24 for example)

                  For information to you for SU-34 should be applied "Tarantula"
                  state contract No.73051 The contract deadline was set on November 25 November 2012.

                  Prototypes of the Kit of container means of electronic suppression (KKS REP) L-700A (B, C, D, D) KNIRTI was made in a timely manner, but the Ministry of Defense did not provide for the tactical and technical task (TTZ) to use the KKS REP as suspension objects on front-line aircraft, and therefore it is impossible to carry out this stage of the ROC.
                  further court (A40-59893 / 12), forfeit in the amount of 156,9 million rubles. and interest on borrowed money in the amount of 12 million rubles.

                  Defense Ministry court lost, SU-34 did not receive KKS REP L-700A (B, C, D, D)
                  Quote: mav1971
                  We go further - the first AFAR created in the Soviet Union / Russia dates back to 2005 year.

                  Even further, even closer.

                  Radar "Barrier" is the first in the world PAR, 1981. So what?
                  for the REP complex, an AFAR or PAR is not needed if the REP complex is not tied to radars (there, yes, one part of the cells (MRP) works as a radar, and the other as a jammer.)

                  Do you see Kraukha-2,4 AFAR (FAR)?

                  Why to the REP LPI complex?
                  low-probability-of-intercept?
                  LPIR is a class of radar (radar)
                  REP "creates" phantoms around the protected object, interferes with the radar receiver (it needs to be burned in full), makes a correction to the reflected signal of the irradiator radar from the object, etc.
                  REP no need to keep quiet
                  1. opus 13 November 2015 01: 38 New
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                    Quote: mav1971
                    About AFAR in the 1977 year did not even stutter in the projects.

                    AFAR (and IFAR) in the counter-type REP type is difficult to implement, because air cooling is NOT enough (strong overheating), and the liquid must be supplied / discharged (77mu need 11,3 l / min) - this is also a crap.
                    + price, each MRP costs from $ 1000, and they need from 500 pieces
                    Quote: mav1971
                    and the algorithms are all the more different.

                    the algorithms are the same (as the Germans had) while the 2D canvas, that's how they switch to 3D (cone, hemisphere) then the algorithms will be different

                    Quote: mav1971
                    About LPI mode, about broadband noise-like transmission

                    Why to the REP LPI complex?
                    low-probability-of-intercept?
                    LPIR is a class of radar (radar)
                    REP "creates" phantoms around the protected object, interferes with the radar receiver (it needs to be burned in full), makes a correction to the reflected signal of the irradiator radar from the object, etc.
                    REP no need to keep quiet
                    Quote: mav1971
                    Tuning the operating frequency 1200 times per second in the widest range

                    1000, and not in the "widest", but rather narrow range of frequencies: X (8 - 12 GHz)
                    Quote: mav1971
                    Using almost supercomputer processors,

                    yep
                    nothing so that the F – 22 Raptor until recently (until upgrade Block 30/35 from 2013, if you didn’t forget) flew on the Intel 960mx processor, developed in 1984, production in the USA was then at 1000-1500nm - nobody really buzzed about the Americans putting backward electronics on airplanes

                    This (photo) is not a military option

                    (almost on this, the casing is ceramic only)

                    what are supercomputers?
                  2. mav1971 13 November 2015 09: 42 New
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                    Quote: opus

                    In 1977 about SU-34 and did not think
                    In 1977, at KNIRTI, research began on the creation of electronic jamming complexes on base of functional blocks of basic structures (FBBK)

                    In 1984, the development of the "Khibiny-10В" / L-175В "Khibiny-10В" complex


                    about Su-34 I agree - did not think.
                    But you did not understand the most important thing. The development of the complex, which became the result of the L-175В, took place on the basis of ideas and the element base for the 1977 cutoff.
                    That’s what the bullet is!

                    Quote:
                    The first work related to the creation of KREP “Khibiny” began at the Kaluga Scientific Research Radio-Technical Institute (KNIRTI) in 1977. It was planned to create a unified electronic countermeasures complex for all military branches, where the tasks of KNIRTI were the development of Proran radio electronic reconnaissance equipment (RTR) units and Regata active interference station (SAP), which was successfully completed by the defense of research work in 1980 [2].

                    And the fact that the L-175В was adopted as part of the Su-34 complex as early as the 2007 year did not change a bit in the element base and the scheme of work developed as of the 77 year.

                    Quote: opus

                    Yeah...don't write bullshit. You might think besides SU-34 we have nothing (SU-24 for example)

                    On the Su-24, nothing further appeared beyond the layout. KS-418 from the same family never left the layout stage.

                    Quote: opus

                    For information to you for SU-34 should be applied "Tarantula"
                    state contract No.73051 The contract deadline was set on November 25 November 2012.

                    a tarantula is a modernization.
                    already in 2007, they understood that the initial version of Khibin, in connection with the development of AFAR, could not resist them.
                    And since you even know the number of the contract, and you know about the scandalous story, what Tarantula is talking about again? Again about the layout? Again, which is not in combat units? Again, boast about going to the army?
                    Share the skin again?

                    Quote: opus

                    Radar "Barrier" is the first in the world PAR, 1981. So what?
                    for the REP complex, an AFAR or PAR is not needed if the REP complex is not tied to radars (there, yes, one part of the cells (MRP) works as a radar, and the other as a jammer.)


                    REP may not need AFAR - here you can be relatively right.
                    But ...
                    You did not understand the main message.
                    Namely - the opposition of electronic warfare and radar AFAR.
                    The Khibin is opposed by AN / APG-77,79,81,63 with two European AFARs, which are installed on almost all modern NATO fighters.
                    This is the main thing.

                    And now, looking at the schemes and algorithms of operation of radar with AFAR it is already clear that the L-175В system (and we do not have another more modern combat unit on the Su-34) can not be opposed.
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                    2. opus 13 November 2015 12: 40 New
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                      Quote: mav1971
                      The first works related to the creation of KREP "Khibiny"

                      not hibiny, but
                      Quote: opus
                      At KNIRTI, research has begun on the creation of electronic suppression systems based on functional blocks of basic structures (FBKK)

                      Roughly speaking, a hanging container was required
                      Quote: mav1971
                      not a bit has changed anything in the element base and the scheme of work developed as of 77

                      Has changed. There is another EB.
                      This is not, "Beans", "Azalea" and "Lilac" are visible in size and in energy consumption.
                      Quote: mav1971
                      a tarantula is a modernization.

                      no
                      Quote: mav1971
                      and you know about the scandalous story, then what Tarantula is it all about again?

                      see arbitration
                      Quote: opus
                      A40-59893 / 12
                      ,everybody there
                      Quote: mav1971
                      Khibiny opposed AN / APG-77,79,81,63 two European AFAR

                      1. In Europe, while Thales RBE2 development (and not everywhere) is the first and only radar with AFAR in Europe

                      2.AN / APG 63 only AN / APG-63 (V3) and there are only 18 of them
                      APG-79 in operational testing
                      Quote: mav1971
                      that are installed on almost all modern NATO fighters.
                      -it is not true
                      3. To cope with AFAR, AFAR is not needed for REP.
                      Power needed (simpler here: basic radar equation)


                      A good algorithm and computing power are needed.
                      Quote: mav1971
                      radar algorithms with AFAR

                      the algorithm is the same
              3. Nosgoth 14 November 2015 07: 28 New
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                Just for thought.

                1. On October 6, 2015, the Russian Air Force received 74Su-34.

                2. Armed with the US Air Force 176F-15C, modifications for electronic warfare
                (equipped with Raytheon APG-63 (V) 3 radars with active phased array antenna (AFAR), and hang a container with jamming systems on the central pylon)

                This is not counting about 190 F-15 US allies upgradeable to F-15SE
                (Another feature of the F-15SE version is the installation of a specially developed electronic warfare system (EW). The developer chose to equip the aircraft with a digital electronic warfare system (DEWS) of BAE Systems, which includes a digital radar warning receiver and a digital jammer , an integrated trap-shooting system and interference suppression system. According to the company’s specialists, the aircraft’s PJIC and warning system continue to function when interfering with enemy radar systems by an airplane.)

                I am a patriot of Russia and also proud of her achievements, but I really look at things and understand that, by QUANTITY, we are still very far behind. So 1 versus 5 are already fairy tales, even if the enemy is slightly behind, they are more unique (not even counting specialized aircraft).

                Haters are evil.
          2. Falcon 12 November 2015 21: 53 New
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            Quote: NEXUS
            And the power and capabilities of such an electronic warfare system that will be installed on the "duckling" are known?


            The question is rather to Comrade. To the ancients.

            On the wing which are 3,6 kW. Container - I don’t know.

            Quote: NEXUS
            I’m also, dear, that the "duckling", I’m sure, this electronic warfare complex is more powerful and can solve tasks more voluminous than the one that stands on the F-15


            No, it doesn’t. Corners are not those suppressions. Yes, and the number!

            There is such a thing - each electronic warfare requires powerful energy. Another calibration for the ability to operate their equipment.

            Therefore, our "Partners" and use special. EW aircraft.





            Ordinary fighters cannot give such power, and why - overweight.

            And the Su-34 is not a special aircraft for electronic warfare ...
            1. NEXUS 12 November 2015 22: 25 New
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              Quote: Falcon
              Ordinary fighters cannot give such power, and why - overweight.

              And if in the compartment say 4-6 cars can they suppress the location of the adversary and his guidance system?
              Sorry if the question is strange ... I am not strong on EW systems. But I would like to know your opinion.
              Sincerely. hi
              1. Nosgoth 14 November 2015 07: 32 New
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                Despite the fact that the numerical advantage will not be on our side?
        2. opus 13 November 2015 00: 13 New
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          It is one with 90 rear and front hemisphere viewing sectors.

          StationИ REP MFKEPB on 2 endings (U1 and U2) и under belly x1 , TOTAL = 3.
          In total, up to x5 (for a group) (U1 and U2 + Sh1 and Sh0) and 1n central

          *2 modules, the operating frequency range of which coincides with the “Khibin” frequency range of the main carrier, essentially representing transmitting devices of increased power without their own RTR unit
          * 2 modules with a working frequency range different from the Khibin frequency range of the main carrier, with the P unit installed
          TP

          Khibiny-10V multifunctional electronic warfare complex (product L-175V) from OJSC KNIRTI

          Wing module KREP "Khibiny" on the Su-34




          Quote: NEXUS
          And the power and capabilities of such an electronic warfare system that will be installed on the "duckling" are known?

          Central unit:
          Power consumption (module) 3600 W
          Coverage in the rear and front hemispheres sector +/- 45 degrees
          SP: modernized jamming station KS418
          electronic intelligence complex - "Proran"
          active jamming system - "Regatta"

          on the L-265M10 will switch or the "Himalayas"

          it is both built-in and container type
          1. NEXUS 13 November 2015 00: 27 New
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            Quote: opus
            Central unit:
            Power consumption (module) 3600 W
            Coverage in the rear and front hemispheres sector +/- 45 degrees
            SP: modernized jamming station KS418
            electronic intelligence complex - "Proran"
            active jamming system - "Regatta"

            on the L-265M10 will switch or the "Himalayas"

            Thank you, Opus ... I'm sorry, I don’t know what to call you, therefore I am addressing by nickname.
            Sincerely. hi
            1. opus 13 November 2015 00: 47 New
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              Thank you, Opus ... I'm sorry, I don’t know what to call you, therefore I am addressing by nickname.

              you are welcome.
              Parents called Anton:


              And you Nexus?

              request
              1. NEXUS 13 November 2015 01: 04 New
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                Quote: opus
                Parents called Anton:

                Andrey ... nice to meet you, Anton. drinks
      2. vorobey 12 November 2015 23: 45 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Someone recently tried to compare the F-15 with the SU-34 ... now it’s interesting to listen to the comparisons ...

        and again you want to paralyze the opinion? Wait, the guys with the files after the F35 topping up will express themselves ...
  2. Gray 43 12 November 2015 15: 27 New
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    A smart weapon is based on electronics - to dazzle it and then it benefits little
    1. hydrox 12 November 2015 15: 37 New
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      Quote: Gray 43
      A smart weapon is based on electronics - to dazzle it and then it benefits little


      A little is not the right word: it immediately becomes a defenseless and very easy target (if it does not rush into the afterburner using a wrist compass (and if it can correctly determine the direction of departure)). laughing
    2. varov14 12 November 2015 16: 25 New
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      So maybe he himself blinds those who are trying to blind him, otherwise what's the point, or is it a guidance system for the target?
  3. PlotnikoffDD 12 November 2015 15: 27 New
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    Surely already available on planes flying in Syria.
    1. Just BB 12 November 2015 19: 50 New
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      PlotnikoffDD
      Surely already available on planes flying in Syria.

      am
      What for? What should he do there? "Mobiles" in the bearded jammed?
  4. katalonec2014 12 November 2015 15: 30 New
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    In time, I'm afraid in December they may already be needed.
  5. Wedmak 12 November 2015 15: 32 New
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    On time ... Turchinov just wants to develop his air defense. He only wants, and he already has an answer.
    1. kil 31 12 November 2015 15: 38 New
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      The article is about 24 e, and the picture is about 34 e. It would be better if you drew how and where the container is placed on 24 ohm.
      1. Wedmak 12 November 2015 15: 56 New
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        The article is about 24 e, and the picture is about 34 e.

        An article about 34 just. But since he has his own electronic warfare on the wingtips, then most likely these containers will be away, on the fairings of the air intakes (or how right?).
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        Quote: Kil 31
        The article is about 24 e, and the picture is about 34 e. It would be better if you drew how and where the container is placed on 24 ohm.


        No way and nowhere.
        They are not intended for installation on Su-24.
        OCD for compatibility ceased at the end of the 80's. early 90's.
  6. v1tz 12 November 2015 15: 35 New
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    Priority for many years, especially in local war ...
  7. AlexTires 12 November 2015 15: 36 New
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    At first, the Buyans are capable of launching non-1.5 kilometers of rockets. Now Su-34 is able to carry out the work of higher-class aircraft. Russia stubbornly puts the States on the headstock!
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      At first, the Buyans are capable of launching non-1.5 kilometers of rockets. Now Su-34 is able to carry out the work of higher-class aircraft. Russia stubbornly puts the States on the headstock!


      Those. REO suspension containers used by both adversaries and our aircraft from the mid-60's are new?
      Does this work of a higher class?
      Already 50 years of suspension with REO used! Surround! Are you just “born”?
      To school again!
  8. Alexander 3 12 November 2015 15: 37 New
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    KRET is not in vain eating bread, I am glad for them so many developments.
  9. marinier 12 November 2015 15: 40 New
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    I liked the income, and the illustration of the place.
    Unconditionally and news priatnaia
  10. Altona 12 November 2015 15: 42 New
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    Here’s litit, such a African shackle was destroyed, and suddenly, the monitors go out, the engine sneezes, the trigger does not work ... And that's it, the light itself went out ... laughing
    1. AlexTires 12 November 2015 15: 45 New
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      monitors ... engine ... trigger ... The most important thing - horseradish catapult! am
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        Quote: AlexTires
        monitors ... engine ... trigger ... The most important thing - horseradish catapult! am

        Does the igniter also go out?
  11. samara-58 12 November 2015 15: 45 New
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    Come on, come on !!! The Americans are already bored!
  12. viktor561 12 November 2015 15: 47 New
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    It’s clear in Russian - the United States is spending a billion on super technology - we’ll ruble to neutralize it - a simple example - if anyone remembers SOI, space wars have ended in the United States, since the USSR launched cheap satellites by the button releasing steel balls in the orbits of US satellites - and the end and SOI and GSM in seconds will be! "There is a nut for every bolt"
    1. just exp 12 November 2015 15: 57 New
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      But what have satellites and GSM?
      1. viktor561 12 November 2015 16: 06 New
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        Actually GPS - satellite navigation under the control of the United States - Sorry for the abbreviation
  13. demandy1 12 November 2015 15: 59 New
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    I would like to see an American plane that electronics fails laughinghow much will he last in the air?
    1. Denis 60 rus 12 November 2015 16: 35 New
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      depends on the height ...)
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  14. gav6757 12 November 2015 16: 09 New
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    I am glad that much has been done for the country's defense.
    We have a clear foreign policy, this is also good!
    I would also like to reinforce the foreign policy of the state, understandable for people to domestic politics!
    Electronic warfare is excellent, but the rear needs to be strengthened, and we have some corrupt ki in power and there is no end in sight ...
  15. viktor561 12 November 2015 16: 30 New
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    EW is a terrible dream for the USA - they don’t know how to fight without electronics at all - there will be a herd of sheep! With toilet paper and diapers
  16. Platonich 12 November 2015 16: 35 New
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    What a sad but strict muzzle.
  17. INF
    INF 12 November 2015 16: 53 New
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    Soon they will blame us for any interference :)
  18. Zomanus 12 November 2015 17: 45 New
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    +1
    A good idea. Break in the container version,
    and it can be several containers per plane,
    which are constantly being developed from departure to departure.
    Well, and then, taking into account the developments, the blocks will go inside the fuselage.
    Damn, on the Su-34 posters it looks so elegant
    and as you look at the photo, where the technicians are serving it,
    such a colossus ...
  19. Alexandr2637 12 November 2015 18: 00 New
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    This is strong!
    You give cruise and strategic missiles EW!
    Somehow I remember the film 07th changes course ...
  20. bad
    bad 12 November 2015 18: 01 New
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    KRET: in November, the military will be delivered to the complex, turning the bombers into electronic warfare aircraft
    ... "partners" ordered hemorrhoids ?? .. no? ... anyway, it will be .. laughing
  21. Buffalo 12 November 2015 18: 22 New
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    Cook now, the pilots will scatter like sailors from Donald Cook!
    - Ku-ku, Grinya!laughing
  22. Averias 12 November 2015 18: 23 New
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    Yes, it’s a holiday today. What is not news is balm.
  23. prostofily 12 November 2015 19: 10 New
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    There have long been suspicions - it’s not in vain that they are maneuverable and with good downs our planes do. It is clear that the amers also have what. But right away they screamed half a year ago and why this fucking over maneuverability, if they have 180 missiles. Yes, at least 1000.
  24. Just BB 12 November 2015 19: 46 New
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    I am amazed at these "managers" from the "defense" !!!
    What did he invent or say so new ?!
    From ancient times (from the 70s), strike aircraft had suspended electronic warfare equipment.
    When planning combat operations, a group of "silencers" from regular regiments with hanging containers was always assigned. (do not drag the Su-24-m "director" An-12 with you)
    It is written in all textbooks on the tactics of the air forces of aviation powers
  25. Utlan 12 November 2015 19: 47 New
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    I would like to say hello to the Americans!
  26. persei 12 November 2015 21: 55 New
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    good news ... I think for the hawks of Congress and the US General Staff will also be "good news")))))))))))