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US media: the US budget will not pull the purchase of the planned number of F-35

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American edition Air Force Times, referring to some experts (USA), writes that in the military budget, the draft of which was recently adopted in the Senate, there are not enough funds to purchase the planned number of multi-purpose military aircraft of the new generation - F-35. It is necessary to add that the Americans themselves are the first to consider the aircraft of the new generation F-35.


US media: the US budget will not pull the purchase of the planned number of F-35


The plans from the Pentagon on 2016 year was the purchase of X-NUMX aircraft F-44. In 35, the United States Air Force should receive 2017 of such vehicles, and in the period from 48 to 2018, by 2020 F-60 annually.

It is also reported that such countries as Canada and Norway are planning to leave the F-35 program. If this happens, the cost of the planes will grow even more, and there will definitely not be enough budget funds for purchasing the planned number of F-35 for the USAF for the program, unless, of course, the main argument of the American economy is once again used - the printing press ...

To understand what enormous amounts we are talking about, suffice it to say that Washington was going to allocate about 215 billion dollars (three annual military budgets of Russia) for the purchase of F-35 alone for the next few years (with aircraft servicing). Another interesting amount: about 700 thousand dollars is the so-called interactive helmet of the pilot, the manager of the F-35. With such rates, it is possible that the program will soon be released (if the United States does not make an offer that will be difficult for partners to refuse ...) and other countries cooperating with Washington in the project.
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    1. Temples
      Temples 12 November 2015 13: 04 New
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      about 700 thousand dollars is the so-called interactive helmet of the pilot flying the F-35

      What does the pilot see in him for the money ???
      This is 45 million rubles !!!
      Just wondering what kind of gizmo is this kind of money?
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
        +7
        Ugly of course, but for some reason I like it ... I'm waiting for the minuses.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
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          Quote: Prapor-527
          Ugly of course, but for some reason I like it ... I'm waiting for the minuses.


          why minus for bad taste ... laughing
          1. Prapor-527
            Prapor-527 12 November 2015 13: 34 New
            +2
            Well, the concept of taste is a personal matter ... hi
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 12 November 2015 14: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: Prapor-527
              Well, the concept of taste is a personal matter ... hi


              agree drinks
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              2. Temples
                Temples 12 November 2015 17: 22 New
                +6
                Well, the concept of taste is a personal matter ...

                Bearded joke on the topic:
                "У каждого свой вкус подумал Бобик и лизнул свои фаберже")))
        2. igordok
          igordok 12 November 2015 13: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: Prapor-527
          Ugly of course, but for some reason I like it ... I'm waiting for the minuses.

          By ugliness, he will not reach the F-117. But beautiful, including aerodynamics, you can not name it.
          1. severniy
            severniy 12 November 2015 13: 49 New
            +1
            and my comment was deleted for the printed word, and even awarded before .., well done ...
            I’ll write otherwise they don’t want to buy a poop, and they’re twisting it .. it’s not without reason that the Allies are fleeing THIS headlong ...
          2. Prapor-527
            Prapor-527 12 November 2015 14: 00 New
            12
            Not handsome, not aerodynamic ... Here is my favorite car ... Let the same not quite aerodynamic, but beautiful ... Ka-50.
            1. Maxom75
              Maxom75 12 November 2015 15: 04 New
              +9
              Not handsome, well, maybe so, but if it starts working for you right away, follow the standard for digging super-deep trenches.))) I’m sorry I didn’t remember the topic: There are two hunters: one experienced and experienced, and the second young. Well, the young one is torturing the old: - Well, did you go for a hare ?, experienced - went. - Did you go to the wolf? - Walked. Did you go to a bear? Seasoned sighs - Went. Well, how does it hunt a bear? - Nadi’s den, put your gun in there and fell from the right barrel. Young: - And if a misfire? - Then from the left. And if again a misfire? Then you quickly smear with fresh derm and pretend to be it yourself, suddenly the bear doesn’t want to get dirty. And if there is no fresh shit? Experienced patting a young man on the shoulder: - Believe it will definitely be!))) Around the same when meeting with the KA-50.))
            2. Dormidont2
              Dormidont2 12 November 2015 15: 55 New
              -1
              still set the propeller on the tail to increase speed to 500-600 km \ hour
              1. dckx
                dckx 13 November 2015 06: 37 New
                -1
                The increase in speed is impossible due to the achievement of maximum loads on the main rotor, at the moment when it meets the oncoming flow in the next phase of rotation (i.e., the rotor motion vector is opposite to the direction of flight).
                1. Secta haki
                  Secta haki 13 November 2015 07: 59 New
                  +1
                  Put another screw, stronger ...
        3. Buffalo
          Buffalo 12 November 2015 15: 28 New
          +1
          The main thing is that he is already liked by our East Kazakhstan region.
        4. dauria
          dauria 12 November 2015 18: 18 New
          0
          Ugly of course, but for some reason I like it ..


          laughing повторяете высказывание испытателей про первое впечатление от МиГ -25..Кстати, про F-4 говорили "самолет выглядит так, как будто ему наступили на нос и дали пинка под хвост" . Но тяговооруженность даёт своё- и рекорды ставились на обеих машинах....
        5. Belopolyak
          Belopolyak 12 November 2015 20: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Prapor-527
          Ugly of course, but for some reason I like it ... I'm waiting for the minuses.

          But I don’t get poisoned at all, here the F-22 looks good, and probably the only plane that I like externally (from strangers)
        6. proletarian
          proletarian 12 November 2015 22: 53 New
          0
          Мне тоже нравится,ведь напялив 700000 "штук" "баксов" на голову пилот будет думать не о задании,а о том как бы данное "чудо" не покарябать,ведь до смерти не расплатится.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 09 New
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        Quote: Temples
        about 700 thousand dollars is the so-called interactive helmet of the pilot flying the F-35

        What does the pilot see in him for the money ???
        This is 45 million rubles !!!
        Just wondering what kind of gizmo is this kind of money?


        17 channels plus 32 cable, free Wi-Fi, skype and game console ... repeat
        1. Temples
          Temples 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
          +3
          Then of course the price is justified wassat
          1. samoletil18
            samoletil18 12 November 2015 23: 02 New
            0
            Quote: Temples
            Then of course the price is justified wassat

            Тут проблема у них. Процессор китайский, а что "рашу тудэй" показывать не будет не предусмотрели при подписании контракта, столько полтитически крепких пилотов на все шлемы не найти. Да еще Андроид 4.0... оперативка 1Гб... Где-то 690000$ ему цена. На IOS надо было делать
        2. ROD VDVshny
          ROD VDVshny 12 November 2015 14: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          17 channels plus 32 cable, free Wi-Fi, skype and game console ..

          And scratches behind the ear lol
        3. ferdiperdozzz
          ferdiperdozzz 12 November 2015 14: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          17 channels plus 32 cable, free Wi-Fi, skype and game console ...

          It would be necessary to attach 2 cans of Coca-Cola to it on the sides and attach a fan, and you can sell for 800 thousand :)
      3. Free wind
        Free wind 12 November 2015 13: 42 New
        +6
        It costs not only a helmet, but a whole complex that is powered by a helmet. In the helmet, the pilot will be able to see through the plane, through the helmet you can control weapons, etc.
      4. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 November 2015 13: 55 New
        +5
        about 700 thousand dollars is the so-called interactive helmet of the pilot flying the F-35

        It’s not a matter of how much it costs ... the problem is different, it’s difficult and when bailout it easily turns the pilot’s neck.
        The cost of the F-35 program has already crossed all conceivable and unimaginable boundaries and I think the exit from this program from Canada and Norway (Australia is possible) will make this pipelat not gold, but platinum.
        Like Ilf and Petrov-Saw Schur, saw! They are gold!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 12 November 2015 17: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          It’s not a matter of how much it costs ... the problem is different, it’s difficult and when bailout it easily turns the pilot’s neck.

          Infastopotsot percent
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 12 November 2015 18: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          about 700 thousand dollars is the so-called interactive helmet of the pilot flying the F-35

          It’s not a matter of how much it costs ... the problem is different, it’s difficult and when bailout it easily turns the pilot’s neck.
          The cost of the F-35 program has already crossed all conceivable and unimaginable boundaries and I think the exit from this program from Canada and Norway (Australia is possible) will make this pipelat not gold, but platinum.
          Like Ilf and Petrov-Saw Schur, saw! They are gold!

          They have everything in order so far.
          Lockheed Martin received a contract for the 9th lot for the production of 55 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters in the amount of $ 5,37 billion, reports defensenews.com November 3.
          The lot includes 41 F-35A fighters (26 for the US Air Force, six for Norway, seven for Israel and two for Japan), 12 F-35B (six for the United States Air Force and six for the United Kingdom) and two F-35C (US Navy) . Aircraft must be delivered until December 2017 (en.wikipedia.org reports that the cost of one F-35A without an engine is $ 98 million, F-35B - 104 million, F-35C - 116 million - approx. Military Parity) .
          It is reported that some of the work will be performed by companies in other countries, of which 20% will be in the UK (Wharton) and 5% in Japan (Nagoya).
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 November 2015 18: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            They have everything in order so far.

            That is, there are no problems at all? I will ask you the same question as your fellow countryman-BASIC VERSION F-35 LIGHTING PASSED STATE TEST?And the second question isWhy has the date of adoption of the F-35 been postponed to 19?
            Best regards hi
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 12 November 2015 20: 04 New
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              They have everything in order so far.

              That is, there are no problems at all? I will ask you the same question as your fellow countryman-BASIC VERSION F-35 LIGHTING PASSED STATE TEST?And the second question isWhy has the date of adoption of the F-35 been postponed to 19?
              Best regards hi

              Well, they decided the main ones in my opinion. There is a licking machine. First of all, software. Then the F-35A deployed the first squadron in 2016 with block 2B, and by 2018 block 3B should arrive.
              The so-called GI in the USA passed the F-35V and the first combat squadron had already deployed. According to the plan in 2016 - A, in 2017-C.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 November 2015 20: 12 New
                +1
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                There is a licking machine.

                For four years, with Amer’s scope, they can lick onto another plane. hi
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 12 November 2015 20: 58 New
                  0
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  There is a licking machine.

                  For four years, with Amer’s scope, they can lick onto another plane. hi

                  They can, but why bother?
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 12 November 2015 21: 08 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    They can, but why bother?

                    If only because Lightining is expensive. And not only at the purchase price, but also in those services. We will add to the problems that the same developers will encounter in the future (they can’t get away from them) and those problems that they won’t solve in 4 years (in I’m sure of this). Let us see in a year what the F-35 program itself will turn into and what, finally, Americans will designate for their specialization.
                    Best regards hi
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 12 November 2015 21: 40 New
                      +1
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      .Let's see in a year what the F-35 program itself will turn into and what, finally, Americans will designate for their specialization.
                      Best regards hi

                      that is yes. The main health, but we'll see.
                      Best regards hi
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 12 November 2015 22: 14 New
                  +3
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  There is a licking machine.

                  For four years, with Amer’s scope, they can lick onto another plane. hi


                  and darago, why argue yes ... better send files yes .. let them work on laughing then it will stop a hundred times and they’ll wait ...
              2. Secta haki
                Secta haki 13 November 2015 02: 32 New
                0
                Not that they lick there ... If the F-35V passed the test, then what problems could be with the F-35A which is easier?
      5. sir_obs
        sir_obs 12 November 2015 14: 24 New
        +3
        Filmstrips looks over the humpback skate
      6. dauria
        dauria 12 November 2015 15: 58 New
        +1
        What does the pilot see in him for the money ???


        вообще-то многое...Причем через фюзеляж, причем и днем и ночью, в видимом и ик диапазоне. Даже жаловались с непривычки- "лететь без кабины". Конечно, это способности не самого шлема, а кучи датчиков по всей обшивке и сетей связи. Кстати, и голосовое управление на F-35 есть.
        So the joke about Wi-Fi and online movies is not far from the truth.

        You know, I would gladly change the Sino-Taiwanese computer to a Russian one if it were at least in nature (not to mention cheaper). Ours will have to cook up such a helmet, and there is no guarantee that it will be cheaper.
      7. mark2
        mark2 12 November 2015 17: 41 New
        +1
        Cinema like him on his super-expensive plane alone carries to the nines of all terrorists
      8. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 12 November 2015 20: 34 New
        0
        Handwork, personal adjustment for each pilot. At such small distances from the eye, the slightest deviations of the center-to-center distance and the smallest diopters should be taken into account. Plus, a bunch of electronics that brings to the pilot’s eyes data from all on-board equipment (infa from the dashboard, from night vision devices, from sighting devices, all this is a 360-degree view ... Plus feedback for aiming is like on a helmet. In general, so much piled up that for small pilots, when bailing from such a weight, their head falls into panties :)
      9. remy
        remy 12 November 2015 23: 34 New
        0
        our similar helmet is somehow cheaper than just 8 million rubles
    2. just exp
      just exp 12 November 2015 13: 07 New
      +3
      that’s exactly what the machine can’t just plow for nothing, they take less and less a dollar.
      1. Vend
        Vend 12 November 2015 13: 13 New
        +2
        And the plane was not created for sale in the United States, but to draw money from NATO countries. Now they have a new project - 5 generation submarine. I think it will be the same as with the plane. laughing
        1. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 12 November 2015 13: 18 New
          +2
          And what good is it? And what you like, it’s the price - even though the entire military budget is swelled into it.
          PS And still ours will surpass him.
          1. ferdiperdozzz
            ferdiperdozzz 12 November 2015 14: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: oldseaman1957
            And what good is it?

            "Тяжелый - значит надёжный" (с) "Большой Куш" :))
      2. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 12 November 2015 13: 15 New
        +1
        700 thousand for a helmet! These are two new Lamborghini.
      3. Good me
        Good me 12 November 2015 13: 22 New
        +2
        It is also reported that countries such as Canada and Norway plan to leave the F-35 program.


        And the Israelites? The Israelites, then what?

        After all, they are the most patriotic of the United States, not Americans ...

        How are they? Not going to cancel F35 purchasing plans?

        Практически в каждой статье,где хоть как-то заходила речь о "Лайтнининге",и присутствовали израилитяне, от них исходили только хвалебные отзывы об этом аппарате.

        Как исключение,на замечания форумчан"ОНО сырое",звучало : "Мы F16,научили летать,и F35,доведём до ума..."

        Что, планам,заполучить " САМЫЙ,САМЫЙ,САМЫЙ",не сбыться ?
        1. Secta haki
          Secta haki 13 November 2015 02: 36 New
          0
          А ими такими, как и всем лучшим, пожертвуют в данном случае, для пущей убедительности... излишняя патриотичность не приветствуется. Австралийцев, с их испанскими трамплинными "Канберрами", американцам вообще ни разу не жалко. Они F-35А покупают, а не получают (without engines) in the order of US military assistance in% 20 of the budget.
    3. War and Peace
      War and Peace 12 November 2015 13: 16 New
      +1
      US media: the US budget will not pull the purchase of the planned number of F-35


      and who owns Lockheed Martin Rockefeller or Rothschild? who is so impudently robbing America and everyone else?
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  2. sever.56
    sever.56 12 November 2015 13: 01 New
    +2
    "Деньги давай... Давай деньги"...!!!
    "Партнеры" штатов хоть и находятся у них в рабском подчинении, но и у них терпелка кончается. 700 тысяч баксов за "интерактивный шлем" - это уже за гранью понимания!!!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: sever.56
      Give money, give money


      I also have a problem ... the budget doesn’t pull ... everyone doesn’t have a budget .. cut pensions, raise the retirement age, tax long-distance soldiers, cut down expenses on medicine, education (I got into trouble, there’s nothing to cut). increase excise taxes on alcohol and tobacco and there will be happiness ..

      Hi Valera ..
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 12 November 2015 13: 17 New
        0
        Sanya, hi! hi
        Я думаю, что они и без обрезания обойдутся. Станок печатный в их полном распоряжении. Сколько надо бумажек, столько и напечатают. А то, что долг составляет сотни триллионов долларов, так это ерунда. Возьмут и введут новую валюту. А держателям ценных бумаг и долгов скажут: - у Папы Римского просите, у нас новая валюта, придумают какой-нибудь "амеро" и все!
  3. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 12 November 2015 13: 03 New
    0
    Well, if the national economy doesn’t pull the mattress, then the European one is definitely running into it ... Have they all sailed with the F-35? laughing
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +2
      And the US economy will pull for the purpose of military assistance fu 35th Israel.
  4. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 12 November 2015 13: 04 New
    0
    Yes, even if they buy helmets.
    1. HAM
      HAM 12 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +1
      the Balts have airplanes, well, you saw them at the parade, only there aren’t enough helmets, you need to urgently buy it !! yes
  5. PQ-18
    PQ-18 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
    +1
    request I DO NOT KNOW ... whether to rejoice THIS, whether to grieve !? belay
  6. EFRSTR
    EFRSTR 12 November 2015 13: 10 New
    +1
    They can print any amount of money. Either the industry can’t cope, or the plane is not very good.
  7. tyras85
    tyras85 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
    0
    And so, don’t pull it ... It’s probably from the obesity of every 2nd Americans. Our guys in RUSSIAN dry-ЗАМОЧАТ!!!"Пресловутого"...
  8. igordok
    igordok 12 November 2015 13: 21 New
    +1
    I do not see Kaptsov’s comments, where he would assure that the F-35 will cost less than the F-16.
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    Quote: igordok
    When operating as part of a squadron, the strike power of “F-35” dissolves against the backdrop of numerous “F-16”

    fleet F-35 in the future will exceed the number adopted by f-16

    Quote: igordok
    At the same time, no one will risk sending a “golden plane”

    where did you get that golden

    For objective reasons, F-35A is cheaper than any fighter generation 4 + and 5

    Are you surprised?

    http://topwar.ru/85041-ssha-mogut-otkazatsya-ot-stroitelstva-tretego-zamvolta.ht
    ml
    1. retardu
      retardu 12 November 2015 14: 55 New
      +3
      And you can confirm the opposite with links, preferably to foreign resources, and not to ravings like this article, which has anonymous expressions and all the facts. THIS IS IT, IF IT CAN BE.
      They no longer say that it is not yet known whether Canada will refuse them. There is no question about norgs at all.
      and about 700 000 for a helmet, already decide, it’s 700k, then 600k.
      They took nonsense about the transfer of production to Australia and began to repeat in each article.
      Its cost is 400k
      Вот интересно сколько должен стоить шлем нового поколение(чтоб не кричали о дороговизне),если "старый" без ночного видения стоил 257 000 $ и это в 2010 году(доллар был немного другим)
      1. Secta haki
        Secta haki 13 November 2015 02: 45 New
        0
        Это к "Пупырьчатому", он уже попробовал катапультироваться и теперь всем в порядке антирекламы расказывает об этом... laughing
  9. Diviz
    Diviz 12 November 2015 13: 22 New
    0
    Kharkiv replacement project. Only sheepskin dressing is not worth it.
  10. polk-66
    polk-66 12 November 2015 13: 24 New
    +1
    "Какое небо голубое, мы не сторонники разбоя...."https://youtu.be/SkZ1O4UJdcU
    1. Secta haki
      Secta haki 13 November 2015 02: 48 New
      +1
      there, below there is a link to YouTube, more ... lol
  11. bad
    bad 12 November 2015 13: 25 New
    0
    [quote] [/ quotIt is also reported that countries such as Canada and Norway plan to leave the F-35 program. If this happens, then the cost of aircraft will increase even more, and for the purchase of the planned number of F-35s for the US Air Force the budget allocated for the program is definitely not enough, unless, of course, the main argument of the American economy - the printing press - is used again ... e ] - heh .. problems? laughing
  12. roskot
    roskot 12 November 2015 13: 30 New
    0
    17 channels plus 32 cable, free Wi-Fi, skype and game console ... feel

    And all in triplicate ...
  13. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 12 November 2015 13: 57 New
    0
    Америка - явно «пошла вразнос», и добром этот "вразнос" уже не кончится точно! )))
  14. spolo
    spolo 12 November 2015 13: 58 New
    +1
    I wonder what picture the helmet will draw in the zone of interference of the ribs of the same khibins?
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 12 November 2015 14: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: spolo
      I wonder what picture the helmet will draw in the zone of interference of the ribs of the same khibins?


      it will be something so similar to a member of the foot, but with Russian flavor .. repeat
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 14: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: spolo
      I wonder what picture the helmet will draw in the zone of interference of the ribs of the same khibins?

      I think Krasuha-4 will turn on the broadcast of HOME-2 from the first episodes in a helmet. A terrible death laughing
  15. paxil
    paxil 12 November 2015 14: 05 New
    0
    Okay helmet and the plane itself is worth 110 Lyamov green laughing . They vparivayut his allies + then a pretty penny, it’s expensive to buy laughing.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 November 2015 14: 45 New
    +1
    not enough funds to purchase

    Although the printing press is at hand, the budget is also not rubber. Yes, and to divert to the headstock of NATO allies did not quite succeed.
  17. mitrich
    mitrich 12 November 2015 14: 58 New
    +1
    An expensive plane, but they already have it and will soon go to the troops. And when is our T-50? So far vaguely in the complete set of the 5th generation, weapons, engines, ...
    And the cost of ours, I think it will be no less than the ratio of price / GDP of the Russian Federation or the budget of the Moscow Region.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 15: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: mitrich
      An expensive plane, but they already have it and will soon go to the troops.

      С какого это перепуга то?Сроки отодвинули минимум до 19-го года...и гос испытаний не было.140 "СЫРЫХ"машин-это "не есть",а 140 головных болей и переделок.
      Quote: mitrich
      And when is our T-50?

      PAK FA will be mass-produced since the 16th year and the deadlines have not yet been postponed. Now it is going through the ICG, including the arsenal.
      Quote: mitrich
      So far vaguely in the complete set of the 5th generation, weapons, engines, ...

      The engine of the second stage is undergoing factory tests and it will begin to be installed from the 18th year ... but even with the engine of the first stage, all the speed characteristics of a 5th generation fighter are maintained.
      Quote: mitrich
      And the cost of ours, I think it will be no less than the ratio of price / GDP of the Russian Federation or the budget of the Moscow Region.

      The cost is lower now, and in the future it will decrease even further. Also, do not equal a light under-plane with a heavy fighter platform.
      Best regards hi
  18. mitrich
    mitrich 12 November 2015 15: 57 New
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    Your words, but to God’s ears. Only the practice of recent years shows that many plans remain so in words, and the dates are shifted further and further. Example, our submarines, how much did they expect the Mace? It has already been announced that the MO will first purchase 12 pieces of T-50. This is a drop in the ocean. And how long should the rest be? Soon we will still see their bulk purchases in full.
    Even while the SU-35 is not adopted. hi

    PySy: And they are already going to sell to our sworn friends.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 16: 10 New
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      Quote: mitrich
      It has already been announced that the MO will first purchase 12 pieces of T-50. This is a drop in the ocean.

      Do you think that our MO should publicly discuss its plans? What they write on the Internet and the media is far from true ... and how much in fact they will buy, no one will tell me. But once the work goes in all directions, as for the arsenal, for the engine, and for avionics, it’s logical that it’s not for only 12 cars ... Is it logical? Besides, the issue of reducing the cost of the PAK FA was also raised more than once, and its reduction can only be achieved if less production and a good enough batch.
      Sincerely. hi
    2. Forest
      Forest 12 November 2015 17: 12 New
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      Now we already have 36 serial Su-35 in service.
  19. clinch63
    clinch63 12 November 2015 16: 54 New
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    Maybe the price of the helmet for the F-35 also takes into account the cost of all the sensors with which it forms a picture of the circular view? If there are many such sensors throughout the aircraft (plus an information processing system that already transmits data to the receiving device - the helmet), then this is the price. The T-50 also speaks of smart skin, but it is not known how its cost and the cost of what is worn on the pilot’s head are known.
  20. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 12 November 2015 18: 02 New
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    Quote: clinch63
    Maybe the price of the helmet for the F-35 also takes into account the cost of all the sensors with which it forms a picture of the circular view?


    Over the years of his life, he realized one thing - the more complex the system, the easier it breaks. The pilot will be full of farts if this helmet goes crazy during the battle and starts to show him some porn instead of the real picture.
  21. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 12 November 2015 18: 39 New
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    Норвеги уже получили первые ф35. 700 тыс.австралийских долл.за шлем платят антиподы-австралийцы.(значит 500 тыс.долл.USA для иностранного клиента).Абсолютно большая часть в цене шлема-работа израильской Elbit, на грани современных технологических возможностей. По последним израильским источникам, цена Ф35"адир" для Израиля-85 мн.долл.(без двигателя, он отдельно...) Двигатель F135 в течении 235 дней непрерывных испытаний, претерпел 5210 циклов работы до установленного уровня безопасности. Это позволяет 1200 условных боевых миссий до его замены...
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 12 November 2015 23: 17 New
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      An interesting comment. On business.
      1. Secta haki
        Secta haki 13 November 2015 02: 24 New
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        Specifically, what was there in the case (in addition to advertising Elbit borrowed an English prototype for free for familiarization, for installing this video set-top box on an American pepelats borrowed in turn from a Soviet aircraft), and how are some numbers related to others?
        Work cycles are not even divided by the number of combat missions.

        5 to 2 are not divided? fellow 0:50
        Get your gold ...
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BXj12nzVac
  22. Masters
    Masters 12 November 2015 20: 56 New
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    Quote: Maxom75
    And if there is no fresh shit? Around the same when meeting with the KA-50.))

    For the VSAKalykh troops stationed in the Baltic States, both a bear and a Shark KA-50 are needed