Ukrainian Navy replenished with two armored boats

Secretary of the National Security Council and Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov attends a gala replenishment ceremony for the gallant Ukrainian fleet. We are talking about the commissioning of two armored boats of project 58155 Gyurza-M. Information Agency Interfax-Ukraine quotes Turchinov statement:


For two years of the war (apparently Turchinov has been fighting with someone for two years already - approx. “VO”), we were able to significantly increase the armored potential of our armed forces, our army received new Tanks, armored personnel carriers, other armored vehicles, our military pilots received modernized aircraft and for the first time during these difficult two years of the war, our military sailors will receive two warships.


Ukrainian Navy replenished with two armored boats


Turchinov said that the new combat boats will be the pride of the Ukrainian fleet, as they can "find and destroy the enemy."

It should be noted that the laying of armored boats took place in Kiev (Leninskaya Kuznitsa Plant, the development of the Shipbuilding Center in Nikolayev) in October 2012 of the year. In the then plans of the Ministry of Defense, it appeared that by the 2017, 9 of such boats would be commissioned.

The main characteristics of the armored cars of the project "Gyurza-M":

displacement - 51 t,
length - 23 m, width - 4,8 m, draft - 1 m,
maximum travel speed - 25 knots,
cruising range - 700 miles (according to other data - 900 miles),
autonomy - 5 days,
crew - 5 people.

Armored battles are equipped with Katran-M combat modules with an automatic 30-mm automatic ZTM1 automatic cannon, an automatic grenade launcher and an 7,62 mm machine gun. ATGM “Barrier” with a laser targeting system can be used. According to some reports, there is a set of MANPADS on board.

The original purpose is to carry out anti-piracy operations and operations against smugglers in the Black Sea-Azov water area and on the Danube River.
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  1. Vladimyrych 12 November 2015 12: 45 New
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    Ukrainian "Zumwalt". Even the wheelhouse is built using stealth technology. What ...
    Looks like they will take into operation boats according to the number of admirals ...

    1. Baloo_bst 12 November 2015 12: 49 New
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      Turchinov said that the new combat boats will be the pride of the Ukrainian fleet, as they can "find and destroy the enemy."

      Well, now in Ukraine, a dozen more admirals will appear.
      1. Duke 12 November 2015 13: 14 New
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        Turchinov said that the new combat boats will be the pride of the Ukrainian fleet, as they can "find and destroy the enemy."

        And before they could not find and destroy the enemy.
      2. Prisoner 12 November 2015 14: 14 New
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        Find something they find. The question is what? Adventures on your asses this by itself. winked Who is the enemy? If these are those about whom I think, then it is unlikely that these five poor fellows will have a desire to destroy him. laughing
        1. svp67 12 November 2015 17: 34 New
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          Quote: Captive
          Who is the enemy?

          Originally Romania, now of course we ...
      3. svp67 12 November 2015 17: 35 New
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        Quote: Baloo_bst
        Well, now in Ukraine, a dozen more admirals will appear.

        Mabut, mabut, but the fact that Poroshenko was enriched in this matter is a fact, since the "Lenin Forge" in his "empire"
    2. vovanpain 12 November 2015 12: 51 New
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      laughing All of our Black Sea Fleet and the daring menacing dill is not suitable.
      1. Ezhaak 12 November 2015 13: 10 New
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        Quote: vovanpain
        Black Sea Fleet and not so good terrible dill

        Especially with yellow-black balls on board to increase buoyancy. Or maybe this is so that, if necessary, soar above the water, such as an eagle?
        I am sure there will be a refutation that this is a festive decoration. But are flags of colorization not enough and cries: Glory to Urkaine?
        1. Aljavad 13 November 2015 00: 02 New
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          to soar over water if necessary,


          One border guard, I remember, tried to show the flag near Novoazovsk. So he "soared"!

          Then they talked. this is his armata ... request
    3. vorobey 12 November 2015 12: 52 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      Ukrainian "Zumwalt". Even the wheelhouse is built using stealth technology. What ...


      this news was already 2 weeks ago relished ... negative

      either Ukrainians let them down for two weeks and celebrate, or Poroshenko’s blacksmith cuts loot with Stakhanov’s labor ... The Lenin smithy releases them ..
      1. vorobey 12 November 2015 12: 54 New
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        the most interesting is that the project is much more beautiful than the actual execution ...

        and Gyurza was developed for the needs of Uzbekistan and with American money ... laughing
        1. severniy 12 November 2015 13: 00 New
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          what are you joking, cool KAKERA, the current camouflage is somehow not river, and certainly not marine, in the swamp they will "GO", or like that submarine in the steppes of Ukraine ?, if the second, then everything falls into place ...
          1. vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
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            Quote: severniy
            the current camouflage is somehow not river, and certainly not marine, in the swamp they will "GO", or like that submarine in the steppes of Ukraine ?, if the second, then everything falls into place ...


            let me repeat ... what kind of paint was this and painted .. blue and yellow ...
            1. severniy 12 November 2015 13: 27 New
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              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: severniy
              the current camouflage is somehow not river, and certainly not marine, in the swamp they will "GO", or like that submarine in the steppes of Ukraine ?, if the second, then everything falls into place ...


              let me repeat ... what kind of paint was this and painted .. blue and yellow ...

              I’m not a linguist, but then she’s so bland, according to rumors something like this ... smile
              1. vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 51 New
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                Quote: severniy
                but then that Zhovta is so black


                Are you running a hair dryer? laughing
            2. Oman 47 12 November 2015 23: 51 New
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              Duc, for river admiral fishing color ... belay
              And shoot ducks from small-caliber little guns on ducks.
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          3. Aljavad 13 November 2015 00: 06 New
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            funny kAKera, the current camouflage is somehow not river, and certainly not marine, in the swamp they will “GO”,


            To rush through the reeds! A WALK - for yourself! am
        2. anfil 12 November 2015 13: 23 New
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          vorobey
          the most interesting is that the project is much more beautiful than the actual execution ...
          and Gyurza was developed for the needs of Uzbekistan and with American money ...


          They know how to develop at the expense of others ...
          Moscow. 12 November. INTERFAX.RU - The developers of the promising Ukrainian An-178 transport aircraft made a mistake in calculating the centering of the aircraft, that is, the position of its center of gravity with respect to the wing, the N + 1 website reports.

          For this reason, the test and distillation flights of the transporter are carried out with an additional ballast weight of a total mass of 1,32 tons.

          Ballast cargo on an airplane is 15 steel plates weighing 85-90 kilograms each. They are stacked in a package behind the cockpit. An error in calculating the alignment of the An-178 was found on the first prototype aircraft with the serial number 001 and registration UR-EXP. <...>
          link:http://www.interfax.ru/world/478787 crying
        3. self-propelled 12 November 2015 14: 02 New
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          Quote: vorobey
          the most interesting is that the project is much more beautiful than the actual execution ...

          and Gyurza was developed for the needs of Uzbekistan and with American money ...


          in the photo in the article "Gyurza" (without the letter M) smile
          The armored boat of the 58155 project (Gyurza-M) was developed by the Ukrainian enterprise Treasury Research and Design Center for Shipbuilding (Nikolaev) and is a further development of the boats of the 58150 project (Gyurza), two units of which were built by the Lenin Forge in 2004 for border service of Uzbekistan with American funding (in 5,6 million dollars). The project boat 58155 (Gyurza-M) is slightly larger than the boat 58150 (Gyurza) and has enhanced armament (the aft machine-gun turret has been replaced by a turret with a small-caliber cannon similar to a bow)
          it’s interesting that both first armored boats were supposed to be surrendered to the Navy by the end of the 2013 year, however, due to insufficient funding and poor quality of the Leninskaya Kuznitsa plant, their construction was significantly delayed, and in December 2013 the MOU terminated the contract with the Leninskaya Kuznitsa altogether, planning to transfer the construction of these boats to another enterprise.
          the construction of armored boats was resumed in the autumn of 2014 already as an "emergency military order", an additional factor in favor of their completion was the fact that the Leninsky Forge factory belonged to commercial entities controlled by the new president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko
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            bif 12 November 2015 21: 49 New
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            Quote: self-propelled
            The 58155 project boat (Gyurza-M) is slightly larger than the 58150 boat (Gyurza) and has enhanced armament
      2. Marconi41 12 November 2015 12: 59 New
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        Quote: vorobey
        there was already this news 2 weeks ago

        Apparently someone decided that the members of the forum IN amnesia.
        1. guzik007 12 November 2015 13: 24 New
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          Ukrainian Navy replenished with two armored boats


          Armed Forces of Ukraine Overfilled with two armored boats.
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      3. TSOOBER 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
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        Some photo is not right in the article. The review from the bridge is just super!
        1. Consul-t 12 November 2015 13: 44 New
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          True, I didn’t immediately notice that the installation of an automatic gun interferes with the view from the bridge.
          Apparently built through the back, oh sorry, through the stern ... laughing
          1. vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 58 New
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            Quote: Consul-t
            Apparently built through the back, oh sorry, through the stern ...


            they stuffed it there a little, but less ...
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      4. Vitaly72 13 November 2015 01: 01 New
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        In how, people marry-e ,,,, sya, and then there’s nothing to put on shoes
    4. cniza 12 November 2015 12: 52 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      Ukrainian "Zumwalt". Even the wheelhouse is built using stealth technology. What ...



      And the contours of the case resemble an enlarged "casserole", and the proportions are suitable.
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    6. Prapor-527 12 November 2015 12: 56 New
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      Ukrainian Navy replenished with two armored boats Does Ukraine have a Navy?
      1. vorobey 12 November 2015 12: 59 New
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        Quote: Prapor-527
        Ukraine has a Navy?



        leave alone the symbol of Ukraine (unfinished rusty and falling apart) repeat
        1. aleks_29296 12 November 2015 16: 46 New
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          leave alone the symbol of Ukraine (unfinished rusty and falling apart) feel

          This is a symbol of another state, which unfortunately no longer exists, the legacy of which is still being consumed by Ukraine, and by us too ....
          1. Aljavad 13 November 2015 00: 17 New
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            leave alone the symbol of Ukraine (unfinished rusty and falling apart) feel
            This is a symbol of another state, which unfortunately no longer exists, the legacy of which is still being consumed by Ukraine, and by us too ....


            This is the symbolism: all of Ukraine is the legacy of another state, which unfortunately no longer exists, and it is only being eaten so far ....
      2. Vladimyrych 12 November 2015 13: 00 New
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        Here they are ......... (substitute a decent word) these "Ukrainians"! They ruined such a ship (pictured) ... crying
        What they didn’t sell us ... the conjuncturers are bad ...
    7. AlexTires 12 November 2015 12: 57 New
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      Very high-tech, given that the only cabin is closed with armor ... Bulletproof ....
    8. serg1970 12 November 2015 13: 02 New
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      I offer them another limousine for admirals to pile:
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    10. Samaritan 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
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      Oh, and how they built them and accepted
      whether the song, in one word Ukraine:



      ... By the way, Shary made an advertisement IN, we are waiting for the censors
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      2. severniy 12 November 2015 13: 34 New
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        plus sign for the video !!! laughing
        Duc and the word "Lenin" in this case does not break them from how ...
    11. Fregate 12 November 2015 13: 14 New
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      They are going to block Crimea from the sea.
    12. Juborg 12 November 2015 14: 38 New
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      And the prefix "M", this means without a radar or what on "M", you need to add up, otherwise the piglet did not have enough hryvnias?
    13. tilovaykrisa 12 November 2015 14: 47 New
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      only the cabin is reserved there; everything else has no reservation.
      1. Vitaly72 13 November 2015 01: 15 New
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        Is the wheelhouse modular?
    14. marlin1203 12 November 2015 14: 51 New
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      By the way, on the river and in the coastal sea zone, a good boat of poachers like this to drive. It’s clear that against any missile ship it’s just a target, but as a “motor with a gun” it’s very wow, especially if it’s also a high-speed one ...
    15. Altona 12 November 2015 22: 05 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      Ukrainian "Zumwalt".

      -------------------------
      Exactly ... Ukrozumwalt should be called this little ship ... laughing
  2. andrey6060 12 November 2015 12: 45 New
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    Be afraid of everything!
  3. gop
    gop 12 November 2015 12: 45 New
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    Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk along the way, they love hunting and fishing, they will go to beavers
  4. Dangerous 12 November 2015 12: 47 New
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    balloons and have air defense ??
    1. v1tz 12 November 2015 12: 54 New
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      This is a disguise, they will think that it is a pleasure boat and will not touch ...
    2. AlexTires 12 November 2015 12: 58 New
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      The question is different: where is this .... oars?
      1. Wedmak 12 November 2015 13: 13 New
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        and where is this .... oars?

        On the back. One thing.
      2. just exp 12 November 2015 13: 16 New
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        I just wanted about the oars and the hanging dry closet. autonomy is still 5 days after all.
        1. Sasha_Sar 12 November 2015 15: 53 New
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          There were such shopping malls in the USSR Navy, where the project does not include latrine. The problem was solved in this way, they reduced the speed to 18 knots (they couldn’t go quieter) the “needy” got up on the transom, held onto the flagpole with his hands and did his job (here you have a toilet and trouble in one person).
    3. Middle-brother 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
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      Balls provide a buoyancy margin
    4. aleks_29296 12 November 2015 16: 49 New
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      balloons and have air defense ??

      No, this is a buoyancy complex laughing
  5. PQ-18 12 November 2015 12: 47 New
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    The Ukrainian Navy is clearly preparing to take the Kremlin "from the sea"! crying
    1. kot28.ru 12 November 2015 12: 51 New
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      Ну they have enough experiencesince the Black Sea their handiwork wink then dig to Moscow! wassat
      1. Koshak 12 November 2015 12: 55 New
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        Quote: kot28.ru
        Ну they have enough experiencesince the Black Sea their handiwork wink then dig to Moscow! wassat

        They would rather pour Crimea-2 near Odessa and would not open our mouths.
        1. kot28.ru 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
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          Odessa is in doubt, let them immediately go to Canada, they will be more whole! soldier
    2. vorobey 12 November 2015 13: 01 New
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      Quote: PQ-18
      The original purpose - the implementation of anti-piracy operations


      not ... a quote ... The original purpose is to carry out anti-piracy operations ... I'm under the table ..
      laughing
      1. AlexTires 12 November 2015 13: 03 New
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        He doesn’t have a place in the sea, except for coastal patrols, inflatable mattresses with migrants to drown ...
    3. Altona 12 November 2015 22: 08 New
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      Quote: PQ-18
      The Ukrainian Navy is clearly preparing to take the Kremlin "from the sea"!

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      Of course, Moscow is the port of seven seas, they told us so in the USSR .. laughing
  6. Tor5
    Tor5 12 November 2015 12: 47 New
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    "A boat sailed, swayed along the Yauza River!"
  7. Mikhail Krapivin 12 November 2015 12: 47 New
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    Put all the right-wingers on them, take them to the sea further from the coast and flood ...
  8. Altona 12 November 2015 12: 48 New
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    Terrible trough, Putin and Javelin will hang on him ... laughing
    1. ermak.sidorov 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
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      ... and if 2 javelins are hanged, then he will bank, scoop up to the bottom ... there will be submarines
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  11. Alexnder 12 November 2015 12: 49 New
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    And then they painted it on horseradish in camouflage? Will they walk through the swamps?
    1. Curculum 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
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      -Moysha, and where are you running from nenki?
      - To Japan.
      - Oh, there the sea often drowns, even drown ...
      - It’s better to drown in the sea than to drown in shit!
    2. just exp 12 November 2015 13: 17 New
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      it’s to drive along the rivers, such a “ship” will turn over the first wave in the sea.
    3. igordok 12 November 2015 13: 37 New
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      Quote: Alexnder
      And then they painted it on horseradish in camouflage? Will they walk through the swamps?

      In the photo one of the Uzbek boats made on the outskirts.
      The frontier service of the Republic of Uzbekistan acted as the customer of two patrol boats Jaihun and Saykhun, and the US State Department funded the construction as part of the International Program to Combat Terrorism and the Illicit Transportation of Arms and Drugs.

      It was discussed at VO in 2011 - http://topwar.ru/?newsid=5409
      1. Altona 12 November 2015 15: 11 New
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        In the photo one of the Uzbek boats made on the outskirts.

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        If in the words "Jaihun" and "Saykhun" the letter "y" is transferred to its proper place, then we get the exact description of this little ship ... fellow
    4. mich 12 November 2015 15: 17 New
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      Justified, the engine probably works on peat)
  12. Rossiyanin 12 November 2015 12: 50 New
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    And what will it give them request
    1. science fiction writer 12 November 2015 13: 01 New
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      draft - 1 m,

      In the fountains see swimming lol will laughing
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    3. FIREMAN 12 November 2015 13: 02 New
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      And what will request give them

      It (they) ... don't drown!
    4. Koshak 12 November 2015 14: 41 New
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      Quote: Rossiyanin
      And what will it give them request

      A few new admirals.
  13. Decathlon 12 November 2015 12: 50 New
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    Here are two more admirals placed at the service!
    1. cniza 12 November 2015 12: 55 New
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      Quote: Decathlon
      Here are two more admirals placed at the service!



      Three, one to replace, well, in case of illness, vacation. laughing
      1. RUSOIVAN 12 November 2015 13: 34 New
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        Four: the United States (and 404 tries to be like them in everything), 2 crews per ship!
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  15. bad
    bad 12 November 2015 12: 53 New
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    for the first time during these difficult two years of the war, our sailors will receive two warships
    ... heh .. it remains to put them next to the "hetman of the Sagaidachny" or pl "Zaporozhye" - and is proud of the "invincibility" of the navy "non-stop" - simultaneously wiping away the tears of tenderness ... ceased! laughing
  16. AlexTires 12 November 2015 12: 54 New
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    The last armored personnel carrier was dismantled to get a gun for this craft? And anyway, they weren’t ripped there in place from the name of the enterprise that built their super-secret and nanotechnological ship?
  17. Wedmak 12 November 2015 12: 55 New
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    the implementation of anti-piracy operations and operations against smugglers in the Black Sea-Azov waters and on the Danube River.

    Did I miss something? Smugglers and pirates wound up in Ukraine? Well, first, fat is probably being brought from Poland, but what are the pirates doing there? Catch smugglers?
    1. vorobey 12 November 2015 12: 57 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      the implementation of anti-piracy operations and operations against smugglers in the Black Sea-Azov waters and on the Danube River.

      Did I miss something? Smugglers and pirates wound up in Ukraine? Well, first, fat is probably being brought from Poland, but what are the pirates doing there? Catch smugglers?


      ask another question why does he need ATGM? laughing hi
      1. Alexnder 12 November 2015 13: 01 New
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        Well, what they found, then screwed. The battle ship .....
      2. Wedmak 12 November 2015 13: 22 New
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        Why does he need ATGM?

        Well ... on the lack of fish and cancer - a herring. But about the ATGM really a question. You look at the armament: in front of the tower from the BMP-2, behind from the BTR-70, ATGM FAGOT (range 2 km, guns to 4 km).
        This is a river boat, poachers to catch! Given how high its board above the water, against the tank on the shore of the bassoon, it will not help him from the word "no way."
      3. dzvero 12 November 2015 13: 32 New
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        And what else is there to fight back from an accidentally encountered pirate PT-76 guarding smuggling scams?
        1. vorobey 12 November 2015 14: 31 New
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          Quote: dzvero
          And what else is there to fight back from an accidentally encountered pirate PT-76 guarding smuggling scams?


          good good I did not think ... to blame .. repeat
        2. Aljavad 13 November 2015 00: 28 New
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          how else to fight back from an accidentally encountered pirate PT-76 guarding smuggling scams?


          Duc, PT-76 can sink two Gyurzys with one shot! belay
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    3. the villain 13 November 2015 01: 49 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      Well, first, fat is probably being brought from Poland, but what are the pirates doing there? Catch smugglers?

      They take fat and take it back to Poland wassat
  18. raid14 12 November 2015 12: 56 New
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    What were these two miracles called Ukrainian engineering? By chance, not Bismarck and Tirpitz? Now in the gang.logy fashion for everything German.
    1. Volodin 12 November 2015 13: 04 New
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      "Tirpitz" is not "Tirpitz", but "Pastor" is the most ... And the second, apparently, "Derzhimorda".
    2. Aljavad 13 November 2015 00: 31 New
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      What were these two miracles called Ukrainian engineering? By chance, not Bismarck and Tirpitz? Now in the gang.logy fashion for everything German.


      One is Femen, and the other is Feil. Ukraine is now tolerant ..
  19. v1tz 12 November 2015 12: 56 New
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    The Germans were still advancing on such boats ...
  20. roskot 12 November 2015 12: 58 New
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    What are they in the Black Sea. To moor on the Dnieper that were visible from the SBU window and took pride in the mighty fleet of Ukraine.
  21. pts-m 12 November 2015 12: 58 New
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    boat under the command of the admiral, sounds proudly!
  22. alex-cn 12 November 2015 12: 58 New
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    Experts say that one tank shell is enough for these boats.
  23. Stinger 12 November 2015 13: 02 New
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    Now there is no where to go. Have to leave Sevastopol. Two years of battles, and here they can still "find and destroy the enemy." And at night and in a dark place!
  24. vitaliy.rnd 12 November 2015 13: 04 New
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    And is the ball so that it doesn’t drown?
    1. ia-ai00 12 November 2015 13: 21 New
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      ... no, to "take off" ... laughing
      1. vitaliy.rnd 12 November 2015 17: 48 New
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        Well then, it's a Flying Dutchman.
        1. the villain 13 November 2015 01: 53 New
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          Quote: vitaliy.rnd
          Flying Dutchman

          Her, not a Dutchman, but a Holodran wassat
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  25. A1L9E4K9S 12 November 2015 13: 04 New
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    The lord of the seas and oceans ukroflot (the rest are not suitable for him), strengthened his power with two more aircraft carriers.
  26. aina01 12 November 2015 13: 05 New
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    They (-sense and -co) to Turkey will be dumped on them when the trouble starts
  27. ayuric 12 November 2015 13: 06 New
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    "During the two years of the war, our army received new tanks, armored personnel carriers, other armored vehicles, modernized aircraft, and for the first time during these difficult two years of the war, our military sailors will receive two warships."
    Well, brethren, the turkey is not burning in detski, does he believe in himself?
  28. Grach710 12 November 2015 13: 07 New
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    I did not know that a boat with a gun is called a warship. In the war at sea, the combat effectiveness of these painted boxes tends to 0. In the place of dill, this wretchedness would not have shown at all. And at the most democratic free Ukrainian media, they will tell that the Black Sea Fleet is now kirdyk because of those adopted these two super boats hi
  29. Mountain shooter 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
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    The camouflage of these boats is for coastal ambush reeds. According to information, draft is less than a meter, bulletproof armor is only on the wheelhouse. These are not sea boats, rather, for the Dnieper. Although, I’ve overcome it, of course. All will be found and destroyed. am
  30. afrikanez 12 November 2015 13: 08 New
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    Honestly, they think and act like children. What they hope is completely incomprehensible. States will suck and throw out and who will you need then? fool
  31. rosstov 12 November 2015 13: 10 New
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    Quote: raid14
    What were these two miracles called Ukrainian engineering? By chance, not Bismarck and Tirpitz? Now in the gang.logy fashion for everything German.



    No, "Thunderstorm Parash" and "Rabbit In the Ocean Yatsenyuk" are more suitable for them
  32. ia-ai00 12 November 2015 13: 10 New
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    I wonder which of the ruling three of Ukraine was going to "fishing" in this pool of UNProbable ...? laughing
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      Two troughs, the question is urgent - who will stay
  33. Taranchello 12 November 2015 13: 11 New
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    How did he dare to call it a warship !!! ??? Armored there is only a wheelhouse, and the bulletproof armor.
    Modern missile boats retain a small displacement (100-500 tons) and high speed (30-50 knots), and this "Khokhlochudatechniki" has a displacement of 51 tons and a speed of 25 knots, a gun of 30 mm (no missiles), and he, damn it, FIGHT SHIP !!!
    But he has a highlight in armament. Attention!!! ATGM, damn it !!!
    But why the hell does he need him ??? Well, if only on a floating BMP to shoot in the black sea ...
    1. Corsair0304 12 November 2015 13: 21 New
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      But he has a highlight in armament. Attention!!! ATGM, damn it !!!
      But why the hell does he need him ???


      Everything is extremely clear and understandable: the implementation of anti-piracy operations and operations against smugglers in the Black Sea-Azov waters and on the Danube River.

      It turns out they have pirates in the Black Sea and Azov. And the ATGM is needed to beat the armored monsters on which these pirates move.
    2. just exp 12 November 2015 13: 21 New
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      Well, suppose there are still missiles, ATGMs, not anti-ship missiles, but still.
      I ask you, your fearsome practitioner.
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    1. RUSOIVAN 12 November 2015 13: 37 New
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      I immediately recall a joke: "Well, son, I put on an earring, they are either worn by buggers or pirates, but I don’t see a ship under the windows!" And now: drum roll: ship! Dress, Turchinov, earrings!
  35. Das Boot 12 November 2015 13: 18 New
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    to decorate a military vessel with balls - this is MPC. Apparently, the first people who were accepted into the state of the new Navy were the animators and organizers of the holidays. Long neighing ....
    and, well, he delivered camouflage under a swamp cable.
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      These are not balls — this is the know-how purchased from ISIS air defense — the balls are inflated with helium and a toll block is attached from below.
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  36. 1536 12 November 2015 13: 26 New
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    It’s already late with the plane - they worked. But will we tolerate their terrorism in the Black Sea too?
  37. Sergey Polt 12 November 2015 13: 37 New
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    How many already killed Russian divisions? So they will soon get to our fleet ... It's time to take the ships far away ... In Syria, it will be safer ...
  38. Stirbjorn 12 November 2015 13: 42 New
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    It’s a pity no one writes about the boat itself, continuous sharpness. What if our boats? There are "raptors" also in swamp camouflage.
    1. chunga-changa 12 November 2015 13: 49 New
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      In principle, the boats for the tasks are quite decent, well protected and armed. They certainly won’t be pulled against the navy, but they will be quite formidable units on the rivers, in any case, the Raptors are worse armed, and the Buyans are much more unarmored. Plus ATGM for such boats is a great thing, it allows you to quickly and reliably deal with classmates and protect yourself from tanks. We all remember the sinking of a boat from a tank near Mariupol last year, this boat would most likely destroy the tank. Our closest analogue of those in service is AK Bumblebee, of course the thing is good, but it was developed almost 45 years ago and cannot be considered modern in any way. Boats apparently require repair and modernization, at least radars and modern sights are needed. By the way, Ukraine, too, should have remained a few "Bumblebees" on the Danube.
      1. Wedmak 12 November 2015 14: 10 New
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        AK "Bumblebee", of course a good thing, but it was developed almost 45 years ago and cannot be considered modern in any way.

        A moot point. The bumblebee sits much lower, it is more difficult to get into it. Bumblebee 76 mm gun and armor. And also MLRS in the middle part.
        Now compare this little ship and the Bumblebee.


        And by the way, about ATGMs.
        When designing the AKA of 1204 Ave., it was also envisaged to equip it with two anti-tank missile system (ATGM) 9K11 "Baby" (ammunition 4 ATGM), located side-by-side in the area of ​​7-8 sp. with remote control on the navigation bridge.
        They refused only because it was not possible to stabilize the ATGM scope. The question is, how will stabilize the ATGM sight on a Ukrainian boat? And is this not a fake, because Bassoon:
        man-portable anti-tank missile system with semi-automatic command guidance over the wires.
        something I can hardly imagine pointing the rocket at least for any pitching.
        1. vorobey 12 November 2015 14: 48 New
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          They refused only because it was not possible to stabilize the ATGM scope. The question is, how will stabilize the ATGM sight on a Ukrainian boat? And is this not a fake, because Bassoon: a portable anti-tank missile system with a semi-automatic command guidance over the wires. Something I can hardly imagine rocket guidance at least for any pitching.


          and I about the same above ... good
        2. chunga-changa 12 November 2015 15: 38 New
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          They refused only because it was not possible to stabilize the ATGM scope

          That was 40 years ago. Now there are no problems with the stabilization of sights and installations.
          Controversial issue.

          Honestly, I didn’t understand which question you consider controversial. Is Bumblebee a good thing, or is it obsolete?
          1. Wedmak 12 November 2015 15: 54 New
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            Now there are no problems with the stabilization of sights and installations.

            On such a little thing too?
            Honestly, I didn’t understand which question you consider controversial.

            Well, as I understand it, you are comparing Gyurza and Bumblebee. Yes, it is outdated, for some reason it carries more weapons than the latest Gyurza. Therefore, not an adversary at all. Or didn’t I understand?
            1. chunga-changa 12 November 2015 19: 13 New
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              I had in mind an analogue in displacement and purpose. It’s difficult to judge about the adversary or not. In a spherical vacuum - no, in real life - who will see whom first. A 76 mm shell can do a lot of things.
              As for stabilization - yes, even on the BMP-2 there was already a stabilized sight, gun and ATGM. We have a lot of modern analogs - "Uninhabited combat module", for example such. Here, by the way, is one of the options for upgrading the "Bumblebee", you remove the front tower, put the "Epoch", the gunner’s fighting post and we have practically the same "Gyurza" in armament in front of us ..
    2. Das Boot 12 November 2015 13: 56 New
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      Quote: Stirbjorn
      It’s a pity no one writes about the boat itself, continuous sharpness. What if our boats? There are "raptors" also in swamp camouflage.

      a substantive remark, it must be admitted.
      it's just that the first reaction is always this: mechanically ostracizing all the new things)) In vain, probably.
      1. vorobey 12 November 2015 14: 50 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        It’s a pity no one writes about the boat itself, continuous sharpness. What if our boats? There are "raptors" also in swamp camouflage.

        a substantive remark, it must be admitted.
        it's just that the first reaction is always this: mechanically ostracizing all the new things)) In vain, probably.


        just in the previous news, they wiped this boat with a cloth on all sides ... and it was ... not so long ago as November 06 ... topwar.ru/85748-v-sostav-ukrainskih-vms-voydut-dva-katera-gyurza -m-osnaschennye-
        po-natovskim-standartam.
        1. Das Boot 12 November 2015 15: 05 New
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          just in the previous news they wiped this boat with a cloth from all sides ...

          ss ... But were there balls?
          (these balls were given to me ...) laughing
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            Quote: Das Boot
            Quote: vorobey
            just in the previous news they wiped this boat with a cloth from all sides ...

            ss ... But were there balls?
            (these balls were given to me ...) laughing


            Of course there were ... champagne do not dare to peel on board so that the boat does not break here and decorate with balls ...
    3. Wedmak 12 November 2015 14: 00 New
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      You shouldn’t be so. On the site, an entire article on this topic was.
      http://topwar.ru/?newsid=5409

      There are "raptors" also in swamp camouflage.

      This is not a swamp. This is a distorting camouflage. Distorts the proportions and dimensions of the vessel.
  39. rus-5819 12 November 2015 13: 49 New
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    "Tirpitz" is not "Tirpitz", but "Pastor" is the most ... And the second, apparently, "Derzhimorda".


    And "ATGM" apparently means indestructible friendship Пoroshenko and TOURchinova?

    So, YAKLI (Yaytsenyuk_Klitschko), "NAVAKI" (Nalyvaychenko-Avakov) will soon be in service, and armor-piercing "SEEDS" at prisveks! And the half-dead Yuzhmash will rivet them
  40. gabonskijfront 12 November 2015 14: 02 New
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    With balls, they got excited, an uneven hour will blow away with the wind.
  41. Army soldier2 12 November 2015 14: 03 New
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    Quote: Marconi41
    Quote: vorobey
    there was already this news 2 weeks ago

    Apparently someone decided that the members of the forum IN amnesia.


    We are waiting for the publication for the third time ... so that it penetrates to the liver ...
    1. Das Boot 12 November 2015 15: 07 New
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      Quote: Army 2
      We are waiting for the publication for the third time ... so that it penetrates to the liver ...

      well ... in pink and blue camouflage and with sparkles ...
  42. sgr291158 12 November 2015 14: 17 New
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    Well now everything is no equal to the dill fleet. Tear everyone.
  43. mag nit 12 November 2015 14: 22 New
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    Parody of the fleet.
  44. AlexSam 12 November 2015 14: 36 New
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    and I added the article)) not because it caused me an attack of pride in the Ukrainian fleet and that smuggling and piracy in this great country will now be finished, but because the possessed pastor had fun)) he, * decree, fight! two years!!! apparently started on November 7, 2013, incognito)))
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    I have a boat progress-4.. maybe they, too, will upgrade it to the level of stealth technologies. That the GIMS patrols could not detect me.
  46. Vasilenko Vladimir 12 November 2015 15: 29 New
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    since they can "find and destroy the enemy."

    and the rest of the Navy ships can’t?
  47. cte-power 12 November 2015 15: 38 New
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    Kazanka 5m? armored?

    cool!
  48. Denis Skiff 12 November 2015 16: 42 New
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    Big Cobablik ...)))
  49. INF
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    Who lives in Mosca, look, Lenin should be turned upside down.
  50. Altona 12 November 2015 22: 12 New
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    The weight of the ship 51 tons is somehow very suspiciously selected according to the carrying capacity of the 5-axle trawl ... Apparently, to unify the boat, if there is ... Or transfer it to the theater of operations on the roads .. laughing

    PS In the photo is a 38 mt gull sliding trawl carrying a Hydromet boat ...