Washington hopes Moscow will reconsider its decision on Ukrainian debt

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US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew expressed the hope that the Russian Federation would reconsider its position on the Ukrainian $ 3 billion, as this is important for restoring Ukraine’s solvency, reports RIA News.



“I think they could do it, recognize that restructuring gives Ukraine the opportunity to return to economic growth. This is critically important for Ukraine, which will automatically be able to meet its obligations, ”Lew said on BBC.

“I hope that Russia will reconsider its position on debt reconstruction,” the minister added, stressing that “the productive work of Ukraine and Russia to resolve controversial issues and the implementation of the Minsk Agreements is critically important for both parties and global geopolitics in general.”

As previously reported, Moscow refused to participate in the restructuring, indicating that the debt is not commercial (as Kiev insists), but state. It expires on December 25. Earlier, Kiev threatened not to pay the debt and declare a technical default on it, after which the fate of the debt was likely to move to judicial instances.

“The main threat to Kiev in this situation is that the current IMF rules prohibit lending to countries that have a delay in front of an official creditor, only lending to debtors of commercial creditors is allowed,” the agency explains, pointing out that “continued lending by the IMF to Kiev is actually a matter of survival, because without fund loans, Ukraine will not be able to get out of the economic crisis. ”

In this regard, the IMF plans to change the rules of lending. On November 23, a meeting of the Board of Directors of the Fund is to take place, where, as expected, “the issue of lifting the ban on financing countries that have outstanding debts to an official creditor” will be considered. Such a change will allow the Fund to continue to cooperate with debtors, provided that they "tried in good faith to agree on restructuring, but could not do it."

Moscow does not want Ukraine to remain without financial assistance, but the IMF’s desire to change the rules for lending right now seemed strange to her, “as if this was done for a specific situation.”

In addition, Moscow stated that the Ukrainian government did not even try to reach an agreement with the Russian Federation on restructuring, and "refused to consider any alternatives, except for the proposal to equalize debt to Russia with debts to private creditors."

“According to the media, which has not yet found official confirmation, besides a judicial solution to the conflict, Russia is considering other options. In particular, the alleged Russian Vnesheconombank is in talks with the Russian government to take on Ukraine’s debt and then invest these securities in the capital of its subsidiary Prominvestbank, which in turn will later present the papers to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance for repayment. At the same time, the possibility of a discount is allegedly also being discussed, ”concludes RIA“News».
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  1. +71
    12 November 2015 10: 15
    But are they not dead in Washington? You want Russia to restructure its debt, get out of Ukraine and take its henchmen, along with the Nazis. Yes, change the anti-Russian rhetoric. And then they hope.
    1. +60
      12 November 2015 10: 22
      It may well be that you outbid him and then you can forgive, otherwise many may be kind at someone else’s expense ...
      1. +57
        12 November 2015 10: 31
        And it seems to me that, as usual, ours kick until the last moment, like showing the people of Russia that we are tough, will hold crowds of negotiations in various "formats", and then they will find pretexts, excuses (like we are not enemies, we are interconnected, if we don’t help, then blah, blah, blah) for discounts! As well as gas!
        And so, of course, I would very much like us to say to these "non-brothers" - Pay, you sinister, for everything! Honestly!
        1. +8
          12 November 2015 10: 34
          it all depends on what kakly offer in return.
          serious bidding is going on here, so if there are any discounts somewhere, then there are reasons for this.
          1. 0
            12 November 2015 11: 48
            and I hope they finally give us back Alaska, because it was leased and the lease came out ....
            1. +3
              12 November 2015 12: 31
              Before writing about the rental of Alaska, at least superficially study the issue. I am sure that a lot of new things will open for you.
              1. KVS
                0
                12 November 2015 19: 19
                and where was the gold that should go for Alaska?
                he is not ...
                so that our Alaska)
            2. 0
              12 November 2015 17: 44
              But does this minister not want to bite the fried nails? Even if they do not hope for restructuring
          2. +1
            12 November 2015 12: 13
            Quote: just explo
            here are bidding serious


            Definitely bargaining. Ukraine is the last link in the chain of objects of this bargaining. They bargain with the owners, and the Seine is instructed to do stuffing from time to time to keep the topic afloat. We have something to exchange these three lardas for, especially since, most likely, from the very beginning it was assumed that this debt is irrecoverable. We forgave much larger sums to the "brothers".
        2. +21
          12 November 2015 10: 40
          And I’m sure that Russia will go towards Ukraine! But I don’t remember that Russia went towards its own people! We are for them second-class people!
          1. 0
            12 November 2015 11: 43
            Absolutely right! Forgiven many billions of debts to the USSR to everyone, even those who can pay (for kickbacks, how else?), And their people will spread rot and press.
            1. +8
              12 November 2015 12: 02
              Quote: zoknyay82
              , and their people will spread rot and press.

              Oh, how are you hypocrites spread rot, you can’t tear your ass from a chair. All while crying, sitting at the computer. How bad you are. Close the computer and go to work.
            2. +3
              12 November 2015 12: 20
              [quote = lock82] their people will spread rot and press. I am also against debt forgiveness. But it’s emotions. For not only the East, but politics is a delicate matter. I don’t know how it will end. But for me this is not the main thing in your comment. Tell me specifically who is spread rot and insinuates you, for what and how this is being done. Despite the fact that it is not easy for an ordinary citizen to live, you, dear, have gone too far.
        3. avt
          +8
          12 November 2015 10: 43
          Quote: Baikonur
          And it seems to me that, as usual, our people kick until the last moment, like showing the people of Russia that we are tough, they will hold crowds of negotiations in various "formats", and then they will find excuses, excuses

          Rather, there may be an offer that will be difficult to refuse. Thanks to the wise decision of the minister who received the title of "best finance minister", Russia's assets are kept in the "most reliable securities" of which country? Again, what, where, lies? Draw your own conclusions.
          1. +11
            12 November 2015 10: 45
            Here. Americans just feel where you can put pressure. They will find, press, and forgive the debt. Our country is still financially dependent on the United States.
        4. +5
          12 November 2015 10: 57
          1). Washington hopes Moscow will reconsider its decision on Ukrainian debt
          -With x ... whether?!? laughing Feed your Tame Cannibals?
          2). “I hope that Russia will reconsider its position on debt reconstruction,” the minister added, emphasizing that “the productive work of Ukraine and Russia to resolve contentious issues and the implementation of the Minsk agreements it’s critically important both for both parties and the world geopolitics as a whole. ”
          -Wh ... is it?!? We have this and it was spelled out in the "Minsk Agreements" wassat ?

          3). Guys, everything goes to the next war, because:
          I. Seething G ... in "Geroslav" reaches a critical maximum (the communal apartment and taxes may bang).
          II. SASHA kicks under the priest Poroshenko / Valtsman for Syria and other nishtyaki thrown by him Uncle Vova require revenge.
          III. Regarding the return of 3 billion of Russia's debt on December 25, the issue can be delayed because -Well, how to repay the debt to the #STATE AGGRESSOR?

          We’ll see, there’s not much time left ...
          1. +1
            12 November 2015 15: 16
            Quote: Now we are free
            We’ll see, there’s not much time left


            I'm afraid if:

            - VEB is in talks with the Russian government to take on Ukraine’s debt;
            - then VEB will invest these securities in the capital of its subsidiary Prominvestbank;
            - Prominvestbank, in turn, will subsequently present the paper to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance for repayment, then ... these 3 billion cried for the Russian economy.
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        6. +1
          12 November 2015 10: 58
          It’s a pity if it will be so. I would not want to.
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        8. +7
          12 November 2015 11: 08
          I agree with you on all 100. Never have our defended their, our interests to the end, always gave up shamefully position. And this is when fooling us through the media. They keep us for stupid fools.
          As with the Mistrals, they shouted, shouted, squealed that, breaking the Storage, we would be forfeited ... a few yards ... But in the end? Rather, not everything was given to us.
          The same with gas Ukraine, made all conceivable, inconceivable concessions. And this is after all the commentators-experts-analysts have hoarse convincing us to tear them like a hot-water bottle.
          It will be the same here. They will give our money to our enemies who are ready to devour us. And become with such a policy, and with such theft, will we ever be richer?
        9. -1
          12 November 2015 15: 42
          Quote: Baikonur
          And it seems to me that, as usual, ours kick until the last moment, like showing the people of Russia that we are tough, will hold crowds of negotiations in various "formats", and then they will find pretexts, excuses (like we are not enemies, we are interconnected, if we don’t help, then blah, blah, blah) for discounts! As well as gas!
          And so, of course, I would very much like us to say to these "non-brothers" - Pay, you sinister, for everything! Honestly!

          Evgeny, given the level of respect for our government that we now have, we cannot count on something acceptable for the Motherland. They will come solely out of mercantile interests. Their money is there, the Savings Bank alone has billions of interests there. So think, "will the bros leave Gref?" hi
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      2. +5
        12 November 2015 10: 33
        It is necessary to have an absolutely perverted mind in order to demand that Russia make concessions and at the same time intensify the hostilities of the Donbas threatening the genocide of the Russian-speaking population. There were many of them, but their story was very short.
      3. +4
        12 November 2015 10: 34
        Quote: fox21h
        It may well be that you outbid him and then you can forgive, otherwise many may be kind at someone else’s expense ...


        All right !!! What hello is the answer !!!! Let the Yankees teach their proteges manners, for starters !!! Let them admit that they were talking nonsense about Russian troops in the Donbass and transplant Natsik! Then you can talk!
      4. +7
        12 November 2015 10: 37
        If the son is de.bil, then his parents are responsible for him! Yankees, you gave birth to this "planet of the apes" - you pay for it, no matter whose dollars, you will print yourself! am
      5. +3
        12 November 2015 10: 46
        Quote: fox21h
        outbid him and then you can forgive

        That’s exactly what I wanted to say. The wealthy Duratino is the farther, take this debt upon yourself, settle accounts with Russia, and dill dill deal with you. Do as you like with them, at least pay a couple more billion to them.
    2. +18
      12 November 2015 10: 24
      If minke whales are so sorry for banderlogy, then who prevents them from paying for them, and then let them decide on the restructuring with them.
    3. +29
      12 November 2015 10: 25
      US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew expressed hope that the Russian Federation will reconsider its position in relation to the 3 billion Ukrainian debt, since this is important for restoring Ukraine’s solvency

      Russia must forgive the debt to Ukraine so that Ukraine can pay its debts to Western creditors ?! And huh hu not ho-ho ?! fool
      Or maybe vice versa - the West will give Ukraine 3 lard that Ukraine has given us and let it continue to take loans for settlement with others!
      That's it, the only way and no other way !!!
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      2. +4
        12 November 2015 10: 44
        This is the country's prestige (at least some for Ukraine) are not joking with public debt. But a change in the IMF's charter because of Ukraine is already serious. This is a strong blow to the credibility of this organization. Everyone is looking askance at the IMF. So not everything is as simple as written in this article. Can you imagine what the West will demand from Ukraine for changing the IMF charter?!? One thing is for sure, in any case Poroshenko and the company will not say hello !!! So, we are waiting for another hyperbolus from Petya.
    4. +8
      12 November 2015 10: 31
      Quote: Wend
      But are they not dead in Washington? You want Russia to restructure its debt, get out of Ukraine and take its henchmen, along with the Nazis. Yes, change the anti-Russian rhetoric. And then they hope.



      No ... well, they climbed into our "sandbox", they shit in it and make claims to us.


      “According to the media, which has not yet found official confirmation, in addition to the judicial solution to the conflict, Russia is considering other options. In particular, allegedly the Russian Vnesheconombank is negotiating with the Russian government to take over Ukraine’s debt and then invest these securities in the capital of its subsidiary Prominvestbank, which in turn will present the securities to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance in future. At the same time, the possibility of discount is allegedly also being discussed, ”concludes RIA Novosti.



      Even this option is a manifestation of weakness, let them drive money and that's it.
      1. +2
        12 November 2015 10: 43
        They bite the giving hand and want something else. Yes, we, in general, could forgive the debt if there was someone with brains there, and why idiots need money.
        Here's an example: they are swept out of the Donbas, restore everything there, give autonomy to Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, and to all who wish, they prohibit the Nazis, well, etc., etc.
        Then yes. Then you might think. what
        And so ... well, there’s money for war!
        1. +1
          12 November 2015 11: 25
          Come out from all southeast, from Kharkov to Odessa, then there will be a conversation.
      2. -4
        12 November 2015 11: 00
        It is more likely that in Russia they also gathered to cut government money.
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    6. +1
      12 November 2015 10: 58
      Russia needs to show character and stand on its return of debt !!! Why is it that Russia doesn’t help anyone and doesn’t lift the sanction, but they only know how to bite it harder !!! am
    7. +1
      12 November 2015 11: 09
      Quote: Wend
      IMF plans to change lending rules

      So let it change - faster their financial system will collapse! Of course, we’ll be hooked, but we don’t get used to it!
    8. mihasik
      +3
      12 November 2015 11: 13
      Quote: Wend
      But are they not dead in Washington? You want Russia to restructure its debt, get out of Ukraine and take its henchmen, along with the Nazis. Yes, change the anti-Russian rhetoric

      So this is the same old US "Wishlist" record:
      1. It was possible to tear Ukraine away from Russia.
      2. Establish "pocket" government - succeeded.
      3. It was possible to destroy economic ties with the Russian Federation through the EU.
      So what is next...
      4. It was not possible to draw the Russian Federation into a military conflict in Ukraine.
      5. To hang Ukraine, "torn apart by the aggression of the Russian Federation," on the balance of the Russian Federation (such as indemnity) - and here it is interesting.
      We kind of continue to pay Ukraine with discounts on gas and electricity, as we used to pay for the Fleet in Crimea with the same discounts, only the discounts decreased from one hundred dollars / 1t.cub. up to $ 20 / 1t.cub., and Crimea is already ours and the EU does not pay for the risks of transit to Europe, but the EU.)
      6. To impose their liquefied gas, and to cut off Russian from the EU, the Americans did not succeed, for well-known reasons.
      So they whine and howl about unfulfilled dreams. They told them to join Gazprom, only there dreams come true).
    9. +1
      12 November 2015 11: 18
      You can consider it, but pay for the anti-Russian reforms carried out by Ukraine, thank you ... A way out was proposed, let Europe or the IMF give money to Kiev, it will transfer it to us as a debt, "what is the European citizen's spouse about?" Whoever "dances" is the one who pays, send an SMS from parliament to the US embassy: "honey, put 3 lard on your phone", otherwise I won't love ...
    10. +1
      12 November 2015 12: 35
      it is necessary at the same level to express hope that the United States will pay Urina's debts to Russia.
    11. 0
      12 November 2015 12: 57
      Quote: Wend
      But are they not dead in Washington?

      They’re not dead, they’re doing what could have been predicted a year ago. When the United States insisted that Ukraine sever all economic ties with Russia, then obviously some promises were made to help Ukraine from the United States. What we see is that help. The Ukrainian government sits tightly on the American hook, and therefore will accept any help, even in words. And the United States, as an aid, will also change the rules in the IMF. If only not to give live money, if only it would be denser to hook the poor ho ... Ukrainians. And then, when there will be no way at all, and Ukraine will begin the privatization of land, then it will be free of charge for debts and will have it in full. Nothing personal just business...
    12. 0
      12 November 2015 14: 58
      US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew expressed the hope that the Russian Federation will reconsider its position regarding the 3 billion Ukrainian debt, as it is important to restore Ukraine’s solvency, RIA Novosti reports.
      in fact, we have our own ... some, but the Minister of Finance laughing
  2. +17
    12 November 2015 10: 17
    Why on earth. Dill has enough money for war. Will interrupt.
  3. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 18
    Well done! Hope dies last.
  4. +16
    12 November 2015 10: 18
    "Restructuring enables Ukraine to return to economic growth. This is critical for Ukraine, which will automatically be able to meet its obligations."

    And why should Russia support an economically Nazi anti-Russian state hostile to us (if IT can be called a state)?
    1. +3
      12 November 2015 10: 29
      restructuring enables Ukraine to return to economic growth.

      And further borrow money from the USA.
      MMM on a global scale.
  5. +3
    12 November 2015 10: 19
    Of course, it will review it as before, the counter will turn it on =)
  6. +8
    12 November 2015 10: 21
    And why not star-striped rich Pinocchio themselves to pay for poor Ukrainians from freshly printed and the end smile
  7. +14
    12 November 2015 10: 22
    What completely stupid people?
    No, I would understand their hope if we had a printing press for green paper, and all the other countries would keep their gold in our country too.
    I could have allowed this if SUSHA had filled up our country with cheap products and dumped oil on the contrary to say $ 120 per barrel.
    I can even assume that nothing of the above will happen, but Ukraine will remain a friendly country for Russia.

    But when SySHA impose sanctions against us, organize a coup on the threshold of our country, make an openly hostile and aggressive country out of a neighbor, and then they hope to the heap that we will not demand our money .......

    THEY ARE DEBILS?
  8. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 23
    US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew


    And how long have they sent such a wise thing in Russian?
    If not, then send! laughing
  9. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 23
    If the Government of Russia goes to debt restructuring to these Ukrainian villains, I will lose faith in justice.
    Although I do not rule out such a move. Indeed, based on our ideology, the government in Ukraine is bad, and the fraternal Ukrainian people are exceptionally good, and despite the fact that the good people voluntarily chose a bad president and bad deputies, they need help.
  10. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 23
    it’s just how much one should not respect oneself in order to beg for those whom they hate and with whom they are at war, some kind of preferences in paying debts. Be peasants, repay a debt and then calmly download yourself for pleasure.
    1. +1
      12 November 2015 11: 03
      On the contrary, they respect themselves, and they consider us suckers that Russia can’t be taken again, since it’s so kind. And the filthy fascist illegitimate government recognized and stopped the Donbass and does not respond to provocations on shelling the borders, on the blockade of the Crimea, on statements about aggression .. What can not be taken from such people.
      1. 0
        12 November 2015 12: 28
        Awaz
        it’s just how much you do not have to respect yourself so that you should beg for those whom they hate and with whom they are at war, some kind of preferences in paying debts
        On the contrary, they are mocking us Nazi!
        They know that their ass ... NICE WHILE (!) wassat hiding behind the Americans.
        1. -1
          12 November 2015 12: 56
          Well, you are a little in vain. While the Americans are not particularly covering up for them. What rushes through the pages of the media is husk. In reality, those who really make decisions in the IMF are unlikely to make concessions to the Khokhlov, and therefore they are trying to somehow persuade Russia. In the IMF, in Russia, pawns and personalities are sitting at the top who hold positions by some conspiracy and that they often carry nonsense, does not say that the system agrees with them and acts according to their forecasts and statements. Here's an example scanned inflated for doping. This is also a husk, really those who know everything, sit quietly and control the process and it is unlikely that anyone would ever mind banning the Russian Federation from participating in competitions. We have officials from sports, of course, but they also probably know about the sins of many federations, and I also think that in a difficult moment they will be able to reveal someone’s exploits.
  11. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 24
    I don’t know how for anyone! For me personally, a map of Ukraine a long time ago on a ceramic oval framed by plastic flowers! So that: either good or nothing ... crying
    1. +3
      12 November 2015 10: 36
      Quote: Decathlon
      For me personally, a map of Ukraine a long time ago on a ceramic oval framed by plastic flowers!

      Map of Ukraine ... Ukraine has globe! lol The photo is real, without installation. I took a picture myself in the store.
  12. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 25
    They do not want to reform their bank. We will see whether they will reform or pay for them. wink
  13. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 26
    In Washington let them not hope fool that Moscow will reconsider its decision on Ukrainian debt
  14. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 26
    And I want the United States to start supplying arms to official Syria i.e. Bashar Assad to fight international terrorism! Bash on bash
  15. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 28
    expressed hope that the Russian Federation will reconsider its position regarding the 3 billion Ukrainian debt, since it is important for restoration of solvency of Ukraine

    So help Ukraine to pay off with Russia, if you “love” it so much and worry about it. There was no need for you (the Americans) to push this country into direct confrontation with Russia. And now, for our own money, to listen to vilified words from your vassal bedding?
  16. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 29
    Washington hopes Moscow will reconsider its decision on Ukrainian debt

    Yes, with joy, let the United States give for Ukrainians with interest and the point is in the hat. laughing
  17. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 30
    I wonder what their hopes are based on. Or what arguments did you pick up?
  18. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 30
    My heart feels that the mattress covers are turned inside out, but will make it so that Great Dill will not repay debts. Base? Dependence of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation on the Fed of the United States of America.
  19. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 31
    [quote = Wend] And were they not dead in Washington?
    Audacity second happiness! Considering the reconciliatory position of many decision-makers in Moscow and the assertion that Ukraine is one, and that the tragedy of Odessa passed silently, and that debts are written off to the whole world and there are still a lot of factors, it can be assumed that this will be forgiven .. Well, you think, the budget is miserable, so who cares about it ... the prime minister will not burn out of shame and will not resign.
  20. +3
    12 November 2015 10: 31
    Let the US pay in their place! Well, then they can collect their debts from Ukraine in peace. laughing
  21. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 33
    States themselves owe the whole world and are not going to return anyone. They don’t understand how it is when you have a crisis, and the debtor asks to forgive the debt.
  22. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 34
    US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew, I have an answer on your proposal. Revealed by such, with meaning, facts, diagnosis and direction. True, it consists of very unprintable expressions and idiomatic turns that are quite difficult to translate into English. Here.
    1. 0
      12 November 2015 10: 43
      We can write a collective letter to "Chamberlain" ....
      1. +2
        12 November 2015 11: 31
        Of course you can sculpt. And maybe we will even become famous after that. Only now I'm afraid of the simple and clear words of the Russian language they do not understand. And the translation will smooth out all intelligible statements.
        Well, Lavrov explained everything to him at the diplomatic.
  23. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 36
    Washington hopes Moscow will reconsider its decision on Ukrainian debt

    A good article title for stubborn Svidomo who believe that Russia attacked Ukraine as they say ukro-media, or that Ukraine is at the stage of war with the Russian Federation as Poroshenko claims.
    Let your owners from the USA pay your debts, your friends from Poland, your friends from Lithuania and, of course, the British who are so close to you. That is, all are Europeans.
  24. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 38
    Ukraine has found money for the war in the Donbass-and will find to repay its public debt! Or beg for their striped masters.
  25. +2
    12 November 2015 10: 43
    In the course of the coast they have beguiled .... in general ofanarel.
    1. +1
      12 November 2015 11: 52
      Quote: fox21h
      maybe buy it and then you can forgive, otherwise many can be kind at someone else’s expense ..

      The story of Ukrainian duty recalls an episode of a conversation between Stalin and Churchill:
      “Sir, Churchill, why don’t you give back our share of the captured German fleet?”
      - We have not decided yet: will we divide or drown the German fleet?
      - First, we will divide the fleet. And if Mr. Churchill wants, he can drown his share ...
  26. PPD
    0
    12 November 2015 10: 43
    Restructuring please. But go ahead!
    In the morning, money, in the afternoon, restructuring, in the afternoon, money, in the evening, restructuring,
    evening money-night restructuring ...
    Tssssssssssss, but keep in mind the secret: the roof with the economy of Ukraine goes on tour. fellow
  27. +3
    12 November 2015 10: 47
    YES not a question)))) USA GIVES UKRAINE DEBT - AND IT GIVES RUSSIA!
    ANY CAPRICE at the expense of the USA)))
  28. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 48
    Are we tightening our belts in our country to forgive debts to a hostile neighbor? Forgive me, let's go to the demonstrations with protests! The West cherished them (hooh .... c) so let them feed them. They took fashion on their own and raking us.
  29. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 51
    Let me ask, with what hangover Russia is obliged to forgive debts to its enemies?
  30. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 53
    If a debt is forgiven, it means that the Russian government does not work for its people and state, but against them
    1. 0
      12 November 2015 13: 03
      That's because, therefore, we still have to spend budget money on suing dill in international courts, which we will lose, like the Yukos affair. Give an opportunity to earn some Western law office. This money had already played a role when they pushed Yanuk to refuse to sign an association with the EU. Another thing is that to take full advantage of the opportunities that were purchased for the money could not. But they received quite a bit. Isn’t Crimea worth 2bn dead carcasses of dead raccoons? IMHO, it costs much more.
  31. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 53
    Let them give them 3 lard, and zero problems. And then they themselves only agreed to give lard guarantees. But will anyone give real money under the guarantee of a soap bubble? :)
  32. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 54
    The aggressor is cunning and cunning - he demands to return the money. Ay-ay, if not humane. "They are children !!!"
  33. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 56
    Now I know what "super arrogance" is ... "Maybe you need a key to the apartment"? .. fool
  34. +1
    12 November 2015 10: 56
    The couple at this Where-I-drink-there-and-Lew last brains twisted. With some joy (a hangover?) I began to express hope. And this is instead of, as always, experiencing deep concern over what the hell Moscow will be reviewing.
    It would be better if Parashe and Yaytsenyukh hinted that if they were thrown off with their hard-earned money, you would look and scrape together than give a debt.
  35. Darkoff
    0
    12 November 2015 10: 58
    And they impose other sanctions against us, and provoke other losses, and they ask for more concessions from us! Insolence is unheard of! On the verge of inadequacy.
  36. +4
    12 November 2015 10: 58
    (US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew expressed the hope that the Russian Federation will reconsider its position regarding the 3 billion Ukrainian debt, since this is important for restoring Ukraine’s solvency.)

    And with what fright? Russia for the former Ukraine, according to the statements of Poroshild and Yacefeller, is the main enemy, and the debts of the enemy are graciously cut or forgiven only after its complete surrender and not earlier. So, in turn, we express the hope that the US will in the near future allocate to its Ukrainian mongrels a target tranche of $ 3 billion to pay off debt to Russia, and not get off with the distribution of crackers and sandwiches.
  37. 0
    12 November 2015 10: 58
    Some kind of fat trolling from the USA. Nothing, ours also mastered this art, we are waiting :)
  38. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 01
    Ukraine asks for help from the "aggressor"? Yeah ...
  39. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 02
    Whoever brewed porridge on Krajn let and dissolve.
  40. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 05
    2 pencils to give to the Minister of Finance ...
  41. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 05
    As mercenaries pay, there is money. And how to repay debts, so they disappeared somewhere.
  42. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 07
    I wonder what happens if you merge "Dill" and "Mattress" into one bottle ?! "Tsarskaya vodka" nervously smokes on the sidelines. It seems that they have been looking for each other for a long time and finally merged in ecstasy of how to screw up Russia. Some have impudence, others have no conscience, but greatness is enough for the whole world ...
  43. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 11
    I was in Krivbas at 91 when a divorce and a maiden name between Ukraine and Russia happened. In general, they shouted in my face that we will bend, and they will eat solo in chocolate. At 93 he arrived, sitting in the afternoon in dominoes pounding. Smoke samosad. Whoever has cigarettes or cigarettes lives well. He asked who we are not working. They do not pay salaries and the mine was closed. And right now, in general, khanty Khokhloma. Where did Zin come from? Senya and the company have already stolen everything. A classmate to me as the current Maidan began on Skype yelling sho live they will be happily ever after in Kiev. So let them give the money and live as they want.
  44. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 15
    To forgive Ukraine’s debt - do not respect yourself! In this case, the authority of our helmsmen will not fall, but will crash not only in Russia.
  45. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 15
    And the US Treasury does not want to pay the debt of Ukraine and close this issue?
  46. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 21
    And it seems to me that Russia will forgive them this debt. Because so many Russian officials are tied to Ukraine in financial fraud and money laundering. Shame on Mother Russia! He can’t stand firmly for himself in this area.
  47. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 22
    Ukraine takes IMF loans and where does it spend them?
    1) to war, she needs to kill her people and destroy the cities of Donbass
    2) plundered by oligarchs who become richer at times
    3) for payments to the same IMF and other creditors.
    Where in these points is there a share of Russian interest? Well, at least one reason for concessions to thieves and murderers destroying their state and their people? We have enough of our thieves, why subsidize war and corruption, especially the country that is considered an enemy and aggressor.
    In addition to this sovereign debt, Ukraine still owes for gas, and repay loans to private businesses.
    The United States has its own interest in Ukraine and a sickly one - they see the territory as a springboard for an attack on Russia and rake in an economy where no one is going to allow Russian business.
    What kind of economic development Ukraine is talking about, not a single hryvnia is spent on economic development and support for citizens of the country.
    And I recall the advice of a visitor to VO from the Netherlands, Anthony "stop forgiving debts to brothers, no one respects such" - good advice.
    There can be no forgiveness of debt to the enemy, even if the curators of the junta themselves pay. And if the IMF decides to continue lending to this sharagu, then this is their business.
  48. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 22

    “I think they could do this, admit that restructuring enables Ukraine to return to economic growth. This is critical for Ukraine, which will automatically be able to meet its obligations, ”Lew said on the BBC.
    Here you are, the USA and give Ukraine 3 billion; it will repay Russia’s debt. And everything will be around the edges.
    tongue
  49. +2
    12 November 2015 11: 26
    "IMF plans to change lending rules"...

    Naturally...

    I think none of the members of the forum forgot what Russia received last fall - according to the rules of this country’s IMF, we, Russia (!!!) were forced to pay more, and moreover, the first part of the IMF tranche of Russia to Ukraine ... I don’t remember which the amount - but - is huge ... And this is at that moment when all the dirt was pouring on Russia from the side of the same Ukraine (I said this softly) ...

    Now what, we have to take the second plunge - to restructure the state debt to a country that is actually waging a war against us ???

    Yesterday, how much was written in defense of the pilot who died on Sushka ... And who of the defenders bothered to read his interview, given two years before the death ???

    Russia is NOT at war with Ukraine ... This is Ukraine at war with Russia in all available ways, but it has not yet officially declared war ...

    To press economically ... We do not need the multimillion-dollar deaths of the Ukrainian people, we need the death of the state mechanism that now exists in Ukraine ...

    In this case, the truth is on our side, and no matter how the IMF changes the rules, it will only be able to continue to feed ukupyr, but not for Russian money ... And let the international court once again approach this issue with double standards .. A. And you have to dodge, in the same place one of the guarantors of this loan sits in London ...

    So it would be great if the cunning Naglia would pay the debt of Ukraine to Russia ...
  50. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 26
    Yes, forgive the debt, forgive. What can I say, they practically wrote off the ship engines, for the AN70, for joint development, and here they quietly write off or postpone the payment for an indefinite period, which is practically tantamount to a write-off.
  51. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 29
    Yankees, lending money is a business, if Svidomo crests are so dear to you, then buy the debts of independent Ukraine from Russia, and we will be happy and you both will be happy, or weak...
  52. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 29
    "Russian Vnesheconombank is negotiating with the Russian government to take on Ukraine's debt and then invest these securities in the capital of the subsidiary Prominvestbank, which, in turn, will subsequently present the securities to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance for redemption."

    What kind of madness is this??? Or 100% sabotage of your country, your people, your state...

    And the ideological supply comes from the Central Bank and the government itself...

    Eeh, why am I not the sailor Zheleznyak, and where is my youth???!!!
  53. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 29
    Let them not even hope. Has the “hegemon” run out of arguments?
    Even if the United States is forced to change the IMF lending rules, it will once again confirm the illogicality of its actions.
    December 25 - MONEY FOR A BARREL!!!
  54. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 41
    If they are so worried, then let them transfer Ukraine’s debt onto themselves and pay!
    We somehow don’t mind!
  55. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 57
    Before speaking, for the debts of dill, let them sort out theirs!
  56. +1
    12 November 2015 11: 58
    Why don't you go through the forest! If America wants to help Ukraine, let it pay its debt! And directly to Russia, bypassing the thieving bandit Ukrainian regime!
  57. +1
    12 November 2015 12: 03
    Quote: Nitarius
    YES not a question)))) USA GIVES UKRAINE DEBT - AND IT GIVES RUSSIA!
    ANY CAPRICE at the expense of the USA)))


    No, no, no! Let the United States immediately repay its debt to Russia! Don’t give anything to Ukraine - they’ll steal it along the road
  58. 0
    12 November 2015 12: 23
    If you revise it, then in the direction of increase! winked smile
  59. 0
    12 November 2015 12: 40
    ...allegedly, the Russian Vnesheconombank is negotiating with the Russian government in order to take over Ukraine’s debt and then invest these securities in the capital of its subsidiary Prominvestbank, which, in turn, will subsequently present the securities to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance for repayment.

    If this, in my opinion, scam works, then the Ministry of Finance will receive the ears of a dead donkey.
    A similar scam was carried out during the “debt restructuring” of Angola in 1996-7, the soloist was Arkady Gaydamak (with the participation of Abalone Investment Limited, “Russian Credit” and Pierre Falcon), now hiding from justice in Israel, by the way, Israel has turned into a comfortable settling tank for criminal evil spirits.
  60. 0
    12 November 2015 13: 01
    Quote: Baikonur
    And it seems to me that, as usual, ours kick until the last moment, like showing the people of Russia that we are tough, will hold crowds of negotiations in various "formats", and then they will find pretexts, excuses (like we are not enemies, we are interconnected, if we don’t help, then blah, blah, blah) for discounts! As well as gas!
    And so, of course, I would very much like us to say to these "non-brothers" - Pay, you sinister, for everything! Honestly!

    And it doesn’t even seem to me anymore, but that’s how it will be. Who is in charge of our financial sector? That's right, practically only liberals. Here's the answer... angry
  61. 0
    12 November 2015 13: 07
    Nobody will restructure anything... They will simply forgive, forgive everyone. They will pout their lips, frown menacingly... and... take it, take it. The state will not become poorer... The Tsar knows what he is doing.
  62. 0
    12 November 2015 13: 17
    The United States, represented by the IMF, offers to forgive their debt (it’s not really the case here - the money was spent by the country represented by its local six).
    The solution to this issue is on a different level - “get out.” favorites from the IMF is called" since the change of the rules of the game by a sharper leads to his castration (at best - by an ordinary throwing out "from the table").
  63. 0
    12 November 2015 13: 57
    Once Putin spoke about this at some press conference when he was asked about Ukraine’s debt: what problems should the United States and the IMF pay off Ukraine’s debt and the issue is closed. laughing
  64. 0
    12 November 2015 14: 07
    As always, they will fuck you from behind and then we will turn to face them and settle everything completely! FATE!!!!!
  65. 0
    12 November 2015 14: 21
    The debt will be forgiven. First they will break down, then they will agree to restructuring, 25%, then they will quietly forgive, but we will not know about it. As long as we engage in forgiveness and altruism, Russia will be kicked and punched in the gut with impunity (doping, for example. “And to support the French workers” (V. Putin)). Gabon with a nuclear club. And no “Caliber” will help.
  66. 0
    12 November 2015 15: 40
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Oh, how you hypocrites are being bullied, you can’t get your ass off the chair. You keep crying while sitting at the computer. How bad you feel. Close the computer and go to work

    sentences don't go further than the chair
    1. 0
      12 November 2015 15: 50
      Quote: masters
      sentences don't go further than the chair

      Loose stools? - Go to the doctor!
  67. 0
    12 November 2015 15: 56
    Americans stand up for this debt for a reason. After all, there is no money for dill, and neither does the IMF, which means paying the Americans. So they're busting their ass left and right
  68. 0
    12 November 2015 18: 18
    I don't think we will forgive.
    Because there is no point in this, the country is dying,
    and these three lard will not make a difference.
    Again, we need to forge weapons of future victory,
    and good weapons cost good money.
    What about the “family of Slavic peoples”,
    so the article skipped on the subject of
    that Lukashenko was ready for the collapse of Russia last fall and even hinted at
    primordially Belarusian lands that Russia must return.
  69. 0
    12 November 2015 18: 40
    “Russian Vnesheconombank is negotiating with the Russian government to take over Ukraine’s debt and then invest these securities in the capital of its subsidiary Prominvestbank, which, in turn, will subsequently present the securities to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance for repayment. At the same time, the possibility of a discount is allegedly also being discussed.”

    Isn’t this an attempt by our bankers to cut away government money?
  70. +2
    12 November 2015 19: 23
    There is basically nothing to talk about here. I hope that hardly anyone is going to play at a loss. As far as I understand, they are calculating how to lose less. crests are not going to give it to us in the future under this government, the World Bank is changing the rules for them, etc., but we decided to print an additional trillion. There are only 2 options: take as much as we can this hour (the financiers decide) or stand on the principle that this money works for dill for an unknown amount of time. The Americans, with their stupid statement, are simply provoking us (they know very well that following their lead is the same as stepping over ourselves), so that we follow the principle and do not withdraw money from the Khokhlyatsky circulation. Well, if we don’t go, it will be their victory (they saw how we screwed up the Russians, they just said that’s all), no matter how you look at it, they’re kind of screwed.
    By the way, I haven’t come across a single comment from Israeli citizens. request
  71. 0
    12 November 2015 23: 56
    The Americans made a mess in Ukraine, and we, therefore, be kind and pay the “fine”. Are they friends with the brains there, in the Department of State?

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