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Rostislav Ischenko: “Open Studio” Guest - Evgeny Satanovsky, Director of the Middle East Institute.

Yevgeny Yanovich, in the morning I looked at the press about the crash of A321. Tell me, what is behind the emergency evacuation of Russian tourists, after the British, Americans, from Egypt? After all, it was more than once when the Americans, the British evacuated their citizens, and the Russian tourists didn't care: they were flooding to Egypt, nobody evacuated them, and nothing really bad happened to them if the sharks did not attack. By the way, in one of the comments on the article I read: "And the villain Satanovsky called for bombing Qatar." At that moment, I thought that I can explain why bombing Qatar is wonderful, why bombing Qatar is terrible, and why bombing Qatar in vain. It all depends on the algorithm that we prescribe, on what goal we want to achieve, by what means, how adequately we predict the reaction of our friends, allies, opponents, etc. In general, there are different options, but they are all are logical. When I think about this evacuation, I see different options. There was a terrorist attack, there was no terrorist attack - until confirmed and not denied. Although more and more inclined to the fact that the attack was. Until evacuation began, everything fit into the normal normal algorithm. The plane fell, people died, expressed condolences, paid compensation and launched an investigation. Suppose there was a terrorist attack. Evacuating 80 thousands of tourists from Egypt, whose number increased according to official data in three days from 50 to 80 thousands, we do not reduce the likelihood of a terrorist attack. On the contrary, we increase. Because in order to protect such a number of people, you need to use the entire Egyptian army. In general, before it was no secret to anyone that at Sharm el-Sheikh airport there were also those “security” measures. It was not yesterday that we learned that terrorist attacks were possible there. Moreover, in Moscow airports I came across the fact that if you are going through the hall of official delegations or through the VIP room, then you can carry anything you like into the plane’s pockets. And if you're in a coat, you can carry 10 bombs. What happened to suddenly such a huge number of people urgently take out of Egypt?

Yevgeny Satanovsky: First, I have never offered to bomb Qatar. I did not offer to bomb this or that country at all: there are other measures to influence its leadership. I’m not talking about Qatar, first of all, I’m talking about a specific Qatari leadership that “protects” specific militants, including in Sinai. These are militants from the Muslim Brotherhood *, the Islamic State **, while in Sinai it is just a targeted terrorist war against the Egyptian leadership and the Egyptian army. In Syria, we attacked the most painful part of the body of the head of the Foreign Ministry of Qatar, who personally personally oversees the Syrian civil war - this is Khaled al-Attiyah. He manages Qatar. Of course, there is a young emir, quite young in Arab ideas, and his overbearing mother, Sheikh Moz, but having persuaded the previous emir to put his heir ahead of the line and go into the shadow of Khaled al-Attiyah, we stepped on his pocket. These multibillion-dollar investments in the overthrow of Assad, in the fact that the pipe will now stretch to Turkey, Erdogan will happily accept it, and the Europeans will be happy, they can be eliminated at any time. Moreover, Qatar already now has to take out militants of the “Islamic State”: someone to Libya for a civil war, which they support against pro-Egyptian groups, someone to Yemen, where they are fighting the Hussites together with the Egyptians. Some long-term project, perhaps because of the Russian videoconferencing on the threshold of victory, when everything has been agreed upon, divided the sectors of attack, may collapse. And this then means the collapse of his career, because al-Attiyah clan is rich, influential, but there are others. So there we can expect not only the situation that occurred in Egypt.

All experts persistently talk about the attack, discuss the type of explosive device, how it was carried, and so on. We on the Russian territory can expect a lot of things resonant, because the enraged representative of the clan, whose billions lie, is looking for where to put them. Qatar has about 100 billion a year of extra money, a lot of ambitions. "The Caucasus Emirate" *** they just bought. This is a serious threat. We have examples: there were before this game with the Saudis, once Prince Abu Faisal came to visit us, probably, the main godfather, so to speak of the Arabs. September 11 - from the United States, and we have Nord-Ost. So we have - Prince Bandar bin Sultan with his first and second Volgograd terrorist attacks. These people are so used to seeing the world. In the case of Sinai and the aircraft, they sent us a black mark, exactly according to Stephenson. In their style, so they have taken. And they are accustomed to complete impunity, because Qatar is very small. Qatar, no matter how hard it is - you will go to the American military base Al-Udeid, the largest in the Middle East.

Well, ours rarely polloshatsya, and why Westerners so raised their own? Apparently, they have much more information, because they are inside this entire intelligence system: Saudi, Qatari. They understand that now something will start there, that it is absolutely necessary to remove all people from there. I can’t even imagine what could start there, but when you have a stream of terrorists, when in a big war with the “Islamic state” Egypt is one of the parties that is leading this war. And, oddly enough, so far on the same side of the barricades with Saudi Arabia. In the terrarium, like-minded Qatar and Saudis are two Wahhabi Salafi states, they hate each other. Somewhere their interests coincide, as in Syria or in Yemen, somewhere they fight through terrorists. Qatar has already brought the situation with attempts to play on the Muslim Brotherhood to revolution and democracy to the point that they even asked him to think whether he would not go to the United Nations from the Cooperation Council of the Arab States of the Persian Gulf: there was such an incident.

Evacuation means that the situation could explode in a big terrorist war in Sinai, when, for example, the strike on hotels simply begins. Didn't they blow up the Hilton in Taba? Okay, an airport is an object that you can cover. And what will you do when the hotels begin to collapse one by one at all the former Israeli airports and naval bases, such as Dahab, Sharm el-Sheikh. The Israelis at one time built the airport, a naval base, then left, all gave to the Egyptians, now there is a resort. You can't cover Sinai completely. This is a tough violation of the convention, because it has always been a tacit agreement: the terrorists do not touch the tourist sector, and their relatives, who are in this tribe, quietly receive their income in this city. By the way, Bedouins of Sinai, who do not love the government, covered the tourist sector. And now, apparently, with all the bitterness that they will simply go bankrupt in Egypt and feel sorry for the warm sea, the situation seems to be such that it is necessary to carry away the legs and all other parts of the body.

R.I .: Well, maybe someone is so brave to catch at once? Three great powers evacuate their own.

ES: Yes, do not care about the great powers: people will go to heaven.

R.I .: Yes, but at the same time their Muslim brothers will grab ...

ES: Yes, it does not bother anyone. At one time, when the Iranians spoke with Ahmadinejad, how do you say there is an apocalypse, there are so many Arabs in Israel? He looked surprised and said, the righteous will go to heaven, and all the rest - what difference does it make to us where these dogs will go.

RI: But the people who are now forcing to evacuate Sinai stepped on the tail of literally everyone. Where to find a place, a safe point from where you can continue to act?

ES: First, there are those who command. For all the terrorism in Sinai, Qatar is personally responsible and the man I called. You see, if Mr. Al-Attiyah said that we, together with the Turkish and Saudi brothers, would now introduce the army into the territory of Syria, the Americans or the British did not turn those words into language. At best, politely: and we can fly, pobomim too. And we will help the Kurds to take Rakka. To which they replied that for the sake of God, let the race on the minefield go, skip a friend, let him joyfully run ahead of you and come to the finish line if he reaches the finish. Moreover, it is Qatar, in which 8500 is a man of the army. They are accustomed to eliminating Gaddafi with small special forces. Yesterday he was rich, but today he is not, he was slaughtered, tried and killed. And in this situation, the men running around Sinai are still in the war, what difference does it make - its great power will kill or the Egyptian army. He is fighting, he knows that he is at war. Drive great. He hates these people, he knows that there are a huge number of people in hotels. Huge is the number of terrorists who specialize in eliminating tourists, this is their enemy.

The second thing is pumping with terrible force: the Russians in Syria are killing our brothers. She is terrible and very time tossed. When you are zombied and zombied, you can already see with bloodshot eyes that there is an enemy, and a lot of other things. I'm not saying that the mountainous area in the center of Sinai is thousands of Islamists. These are all those who were released from prison during the “Arab Spring”, so beloved by our Western colleagues.

See, evacuation is the lesser evil. Why luggage flies separately is now clear too. If I had got into such a situation, I would have been angry that my suitcases remained here. If they hadn't told me: choose, can the entire luggage compartment fly up with you. Then choose, really. Because you can put it, anywhere and anytime: in the hotel, when loaded, and on the bus, you will not find anything. So, it is necessary to pass each bag, each suitcase through the scanner, and, as we know, the scanner at Sharm el-Sheikh airport only works in one situation: when the boss arrives. That's the whole explanation.

R.I .: Look, there are frostbitten terrorists in Sinai, in Syria ...

YS: They are not frostbitten, they just live like that, they believe in it.

R.I .: In order for them to act, someone must direct them, arm them, finance them, otherwise they are just Somali pirates.

E.S .: The Somali Pirates Control Center was in Massachusetts, the largest outside Somalia. From there they received information about which ships go. The money went there, everything worked very well.

R.I .: Despite this center, the Somali pirates dissolved in time and space.

E.S .: Not really. They now have a lot of money, they do not risk them, they invest, they are engaged in other types of business. They will go on strikes on tankers in the straits, do not worry, there will be much more there.

R.I .: If there is a terrorist control center, then you can always reach it, because there are special forces not only in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. And who accidentally lost someone - then you can figure it out just as long who shot down the plane.

E.S .: Theoretically.

R.I .: Why theoretically? It is possible and in practice. You say that Qatari is rich and accustomed to the fact that they can buy everyone. Qatar is a small, weak country, a lot of money. I have always assumed that if you have a machine gun, you will always take a bag of money.

E.S .: And Qatar was laid.

R.I .: In what sense? Has he bought an army?

E.S .: Almost. US military base in Qatar. Qatar is so small that it is useless to bomb it, you will still touch this base.

R.I .: But you can find a person.

ES: A person, from my point of view, even needs to be found. They found Yandarbiyev in their time, and then the flow of money that went to Chechnya to the war against Russia fell on 2 / 3, although the operation was not perfect. Well, long ago it was what is called. We relaxed by that time, but today we are already concentrated. The thing is, people hide behind connections with those and these intelligence services, economic partners. When you do something to Qatar, you are attacking such a wave of economic, political, personal interests, because bags of money go to the highest echelons of power to Europe from the United States. Bags go different. Someone, by the way, and a cache. At one time, Chirac, Mitterrand, Rafik Hariri was carrying suitcases with cash.

RI: Well, did Gaddafi get carried around, and did that help him a lot?

E.S .: A correct idea, but Gaddafi was a rude, outrageous man. He supported terrorism at the level of children's babbling compared to Saudi, Qatari, Pakistan or Turks. The four main countries we hold Islamic terrorism today. Pakistanis, I must say, it also does not bring much happiness, as recently ex-President Pervez Musharraf expressed himself more than substantively. Turks still get their. They are already beginning to cool their relations with China because of the training of Uygurs around the world. And it will not be only with China, because the attacks in Bangkok are absolutely Uygur-Turkish origin. But in Syria, as it happened, Erdogan broke into this path, deciding that he should have his own terrorists and he also supports the “Islamic State”, and he has his own fighters in the form of the “Muslim Brotherhood” or some Turkomans. And in Qatar, “Ahrar al-Sham”, the same “Islamic State” and the same “Muslim Brotherhood”. And Jordan has a little connection with Ahrar al-Sham. Everyone has their favorite al-Qaeda ****. Well, the Saudis are conservative, they have al Qaeda and Jabhat al-Nusra *****.

When you beat them, it is clear that the whole snake coil raises its head, everyone to whom they paid. And this is such a crowd of human rights organizations, UN officials of different nationalities, not Arabs, all those associated with refugees, human rights, unfortunately. Because only now our Geneva Foreign Ministry Group has been confronted with the state of how hard the facts are juggling in official international organizations, support for terrorist groups in Syria. The goal is to destroy Assad. Well, it seems that respectable organizations will work, including very good ones: “Doctors without Borders”, “Human right watch”. And suddenly you are looking at where certain specialists came from, what their salary is, and what this bosses are doing. Those who work in the field is understandable, but everything that has become a power pyramid? For decades, they bought everything. In this invested and invested.

Saudis have invested more in the propaganda of their type of Salafi Islam than we did in Soviet times in all our history in the promotion of socialist ideas. And they did it, concentrating, from the 80-ies, in such a very substantive form. And the Qataris have generally entered the market since 95, when Hamad bin Khalifa At-Thani entered power with his ambitions and began to work. This created a powerful shield and a feeling of invulnerability. In order to beat them, you need to understand how to do it. And I am afraid that this will have to be understood by minimizing the risks.

These guys are ready to unleash even the Third World War, they do not care. Just as the Saudis persuade the Israelis to strike at Iran and its nuclear facilities. They absolutely do not care what will be the result. Because it is clear that Iran’s nuclear can only be obtained by using non-conventional weaponswhich Israel does not have. They do not care: the Shiites are fighting with the Jews, Lord, what a blessing. Then Salafis emerge from the desert, finish off the rest, and all is well. None of the great powers who understood that they should be responsible for their words ever went to such adventures. And these do not understand. Yesterday they ran through their deserts, until recently they were very poor, they were nobody and called them in any way. So what is Qatar 50 years ago? What is Qatar 30 years ago? We were the first structure in Russia that released a book about Qatar in general. Nobody was interested in them at all.

What was Saudi Arabia the same 50 years ago? In the 30s, Stalin said: "We have nothing to look for the ghost of communism in the sands of Saudi Arabia." Kerosene was taken from Baku there. They did not have this oil. That is, it was, but no one knew what it is. These are people living in the style of slave trade and slavery, it was abolished in 1962 or in 1965. Yes, today they have a lot of money, they have modern gadgets, they speak different languages, they graduated from Western universities. Everything is clear, but these are the guys. And here we must very seriously understand what to do with them. Although, of course, if they knew that this kind of game would be answered not by nameless terrorism, but personally by the one who gave him the command, there would be no such situations: we would have long ago ended international terrorism. There is no terrorism without financing. This is a serious economic and political event. This is a big process in which big money is invested. If you don’t, in Russian, say, a roof, a rear, then you don’t have any terrorism.

When Qatar organizes treatment at the Turkish resorts of terrorists who are fighting in Syria when you go to wonderful Antalya, it is quite possible that a crowd of children from Al-Qaida is being treated near you at the hotel. And today it can be in Cyprus: yes, anywhere ...

R.I .: This is the answer to the question, is it necessary and is it possible to go to rest in the Middle East? You said yourself that somewhere they could kill with the 90% guarantee, and somewhere with the 60% guarantee.

E.S .: I know one country where there is a quiet security regime at airports. They just have nowhere to go. Moreover, Ben-Gurion also declared at the time that any attack on Israeli aircraft or the airport system would be perceived as a “casus belli” for the war. And here he was heard by all. Because a specific word was said here: “Do you bomb us or blow up our airports? You will not be. "

R.I .: You say that Qatar is sleeping on a pillow of money and is not afraid of anyone, because it has bought intelligence, the army, politicians, and so on. But his tail has already stepped in Syria. That is, if Russia began to save Assad in Syria, by doing so, it practically made Qatar very costly and, by and large, throw money at the garbage?

ES: Yes, everything is much worse there.

R.I .: After what happened there, the gas pipeline cannot be built in the next ten years.

E.S .: The project is closed.

R.I .: Especially. Since we went to such a level of confrontation, it is clear that some personal actions against specific people can also go and no politicians and intelligence will save. After all, they are afraid and appreciate not intentions, but opportunities. If there is a possibility, then the intention may appear later.

ES: There is a certain mutual consensus that they do not touch the first persons. In fact, until recently, until this “Arab spring”, it was not customary to eliminate people from a certain contingent. At one time, since 1943, even Stalin has stopped considering plans for the liquidation of Hitler. Having politically calculated that everyone would be grateful to him, but behind closed doors, after that they would hit the Soviet Union, uniting with the out-of-Hitler-led Germany. This, approximately, in the form of sanctions is already happening in Ukraine today. Top management considers all combinations of all situations. It is necessary to take certain decisions based on all the consequences that may be in different directions. In this situation, I really believe that the authorities can calculate, and since it is patient, and rightly so, those to whom we are now heavily indebted with this terrorist act or with subsequent ones, they will. In the same way as they say about the actions of the VKS in Syria. There is such a correct expression “usefull idiots” - useful idiots. We also have a lot of useful idiots. And there will be a lot of different signals. Someone will say: "working." And someone will say: "In no case, my God, how can you." What to do now. We still many times about Qatar stumble. And in Belarus, where he managed to wrest fertilizer from us. Instead of a powerful alliance with Russia, Lukashenko after all went to an alliance with Qatar. Both in the Baltics and in Poland with liquefied gas and, by the way, in Ukraine, where they will be happy to deliver it if they are paid. And where many more. What is called "Nothing personal, it's just business". In the old days, release fireplaces, privateers. Free piracy.

R.I .: I don’t know about privateers, but apparently it’s not even in the Middle East, but in the whole East, all this for a long time and clearly not in the interests of the small Gulf states. I do not know what they think about themselves.

YS: They think that they rule everything.

IR: But at the same time, the Greeks are already going to divide Turkey, like the Poles Ukraine.

ES: Well, as for the Greeks and Turkey, I would be careful. Want is not harmful. Borders are changing, much is changing. Come with Turkey to cope. And this, by the way, is another headache. And what should we do if Erdogan launches his terrorists back here? With our visa-free regime and an insane amount of “fun-loving people” from Central Asia, not only with Russian passports that went through Turkey to the war in Syria. Therefore, there is a complex balance of interests.

Let us again not forget that Qatar and Turkey have a certain axis, such a military-political alliance, reminiscent of the situation with the Third Reich and Italy. And rush there, that Al-Attiyah, that the Emir often enough. They covered up, to a considerable extent, by the Turkish army from the consequences of their adventures, having invested all the money that Erdogan needed in his economy. Qatar is not in itself, it has acquired a huge system of relations. And the Saudis are overgrown with it. Look at the Saudi-Pakistani alliance, including in the framework of Riyadh’s financing of Pakistan’s tactical nuclear weapons, which are de facto Saudi nuclear weapons and get to them in ready-made form. Why should they teach their physicists and mathematicians? Although nuclear specialists in Pakistan are currently studying with them. So, everything is not very simple there.

R.I .: The destabilization of the Middle East is growing before our eyes.

E.S .: Increases. And we broke into this situation not from a good life and not for Assad. What is Assad? Well, yes, Assad is a symbol of civil war and resistance; if you remove Assad, there will be another Alawi general. They are cut out, they have nowhere to go. Most likely, there will be Maher Asad, his brother. We broke into Syria, realizing, from my point of view, that we are five minutes from the big kirdyk ...

R.I .: So that's the point. Syria can still be stabilized with a sin in half ...

Ye.S .: Everything just went away. The failure here is colossal. There are irreplaceable potential losses. If we went there, then, apparently, realizing that this process of the collapse of everything must be stopped. The collapse of everything - this is not only the Middle East. It is also Yugoslavia and Ukraine. South Ukraine was part of the Ottoman Porte. Here is my native historic city Satanov was part of Khotyn Pashalyk 70 years. So what? But the ports there have long been gone. So, unfortunately, it all went further. If your democracy does not work out, and perhaps no one likes a local management style, but it is effective, it means that there will be a local management style. Whether it be a military junta, a liberal-democratic parliament, an authoritarian leader, hell, the devil is absolutely not important. If only he didn’t touch his neighbors, didn’t produce terrorism at different near, far, medium and whatever distances he wanted. And a meeting in Vienna is very characteristic in this respect, where curious things said: Syria will be a secular state within its Syrian borders. So, somehow, spreading it out on ribbons is not very successful, and our Western colleagues acknowledged this, despite their heavy insanity.

The fact that they will crap, there is no doubt. There is no doubt that they themselves will also attack this themselves, because no one expected 11 of September. They do not understand how all those people whom they support hate them. And the more they support them, the more they hate them. Yes, we have an agreement with the United States on not transferring MANPADS, but we had the same with Ukraine. The guys will pay dearly, of course, for their policies. Unfortunately, we will pay for their policies. Well, karma is like that. Who promised it would be easy?

R.I .: You say that destabilization was stopped.

E.S .: Suspended. These guys began to be eliminated, regardless of whether they are a good terrorist, a bad terrorist, my terrorist, I am rich and I will pay you, just do not touch him. I looked at the report of what is happening in Syria over the past month, which the Institute of the Middle East publishes on the website. How do they act aviation, the Syrian army, their support group? Well, yes, here are counterattacks, here are some kind of dagger attacks to repel the Aleppo’s deblockade. That blocked the road. But up to a third of the IS terrorists have either been taken out or left on Turkish or Jordanian territory. An influx of new militants is being conducted and is being conducted seriously, but from outside new ones, and this is already serious. Smart people do not want to run under Russian missiles. Of course, they will be supplied with MANPADS in the same way as anti-tank systems.

R.I .: But MANPADS does not bring down everything.

ES: Not everyone, but they will try. From Libya will pull up, including through the Sinai. It is clear that this stream, which the Americans are probably observing from the Libyan warehouses from the Sahel, from the Sahara, does not make them very happy. And they just understand that they can shoot at anything flying. MANPADS are not all knocked down, but if you start to hit at taking off or sitting at low echelons ...

R.I .: But for that you need to come there.

Е.S .: From a certain distance, listen, Egypt is such a place, there are many airports, there are many tourists, Sinai is big, mountains, whatever ...

R.I .: Yes, you can drive terrorists for Mozhai in Syria. They will move to Jordan, Libya. Somehow through joint efforts, it will be possible to stabilize the situation in Iraq through 5 − 7 over the years. It is not clear what to do with the Kurds, but you can somehow agree. But all of this space from Libya to Pakistan and Afghanistan, inclusive, is the same as jelly. Here he took a fist, he slipped between his fingers ...

Ye.S .: It depends on how I took it. Why jelly should be taken with your fingers. Humanity came up with this dish for quite some time. And from the bowl the jelly does not flow. The war with basmachs was won by us for a long time. Basmachi, having ceased to receive funding from the British, moved to a peaceful life, and after some time stopped attacking Soviet territory. This is known. The same South Turkmen tribes in Afghanistan are pure basmachs. On the territory of Saudi to 800, thousands of people are people from Central Asia, only Uzbeks are ethnic from the beginning. The same with the Chechen terrorist war. It's not so good in Dagestan, if not to say bad, but in Chechnya, where they did it, including the local population ... There are factors. First, stop playing against each other. It is clear that the British, Americans, French - this is still a terrarium. But at some point they started to play against us. And notice with what a furious speed everyone began to interact with the Ministry of Defense, when exactly that started in Syria, with the forces of one regiment that they imposed on us for so long, saying that we are fighting in Ukraine. If our people fought in Ukraine, then in general the situation was very different. Because the jokes are over. It was the first signal in Georgia. They decided not to notice this signal and not to pay attention to it. There was a second, very bad signal in Ukraine, which was the victim of all these political speculations.

R.I .: The second signal was in Syria. Syria began in 2011 -2012, and Ukraine in 2013.

ES: No, I mean our signal. We have nothing in 2011 year in Syria. We panged, said something, the Foreign Ministry produced something. But the Russian signal was that enough guys. The third bell rang in Syria, when the regiment arrived, no one was watching. This is a huge hard job - the deployment of even such a small part. None of the infections have noted this. Everything that was supposed to sail - came by sea, everything that should have flown - flew in, turned around and started appropriate actions. Actions, in intensity, are close to the theoretical maximum. Nobody expected such a flight. Accuracy actions are quite serious. Interactions with ground forces are very, very good.

R.I .: I am most impressed with logistics. To organize the provision of a belligerent group at such a distance, moreover, that there are unfriendly, to put it mildly, countries ...

ES: Everything is organized at a very unexpected level. Knowing that when Serdyukov began to happen in the army, you make a helpless gesture. This is the third call. Guys, you want to try us for strength, there will be a very sad result. It's cheaper for you to just stop being a hooligan and start working normally, doing what you say, not what you are doing. The same firing from the Caspian Sea, from the sea-based platform — it was such a clear signal that repulsed all desires to communicate with us by medium-range missiles, cruise missiles from submarines, and destroyers. And it seems that we signed an agreement on the limitation of medium-range missiles, and immediately the naval component began, everything is fine, "stupid Russians." Brains, on this topic, actually turned on yesterday, during which time much has been demonstrated. It is clear that the US Secretary of Defense comes out and says that the Russians have something so secret that they will win all. Well, every secret has its secrets. Nobody touches him. You don't do a damn thing. Either you do not do it on purpose, or you are dragging money from taxpayers. Or you can not do, or do not want, or you interfere with the policy of working as expected with terrorists. Well, what to do, we also need to finish them off, and over two thousand of them run there.

R.I .: States can be frightened, it is possible to agree with them, it is possible not to agree with them. But even if we agree with them, this does not mean that we can work together in the foreseeable future to solve the problem of the terrorist threat, because in the very same Libya all these local tribes, like the Romans, couldn’t be driven out for Mozha, Turks and Italians failed.

E.S .: Can I disagree? Gaddafi demonstrated how it works. Negotiate with Al-Ubaid, with Varfalla - rather big tribe. Take the throat of Benghazi, who is always with his sinusitis - rebellious was, is and will be. Hates Tripoli. Agree with the Benghazians, after you put them in their place, about the posts they will receive and about the share they will receive. Me too news.

R.I .: The preservation of Libya and the fight against terrorism are two different things.

Е.S .: The fight against terrorism, with those who finance it, is pumping up these people with weapons and trying to use them - the process is lengthy. There is an old and kind rule on this subject, which has been forgotten since the 80's: “the white man does not use the natives against another white person, does not give him modern weapons and does not teach him modern methods of combat”. The states in Afghanistan behaved just like that and paid for it on September 11, a Boston terrorist attack, the destruction of its ambassador to Libya. And here the question, of course, is that these people stop training militants, calling them "opposition." At one time in Chechnya, this was achieved. Today, Americans, British, French, Turks are training militants in Jordan, Turkey. It is they who do this. Because if the Saudis train them, there will be an order of magnitude less. Look at the half a billion dollars that went in two tranches to Jabhat al-Nusra, i.e. to Al-Qaeda, such legendary wiring of equipment and people with words, they say, first the first group ran away, and the second gave up on its own and went to Al-Qaida. And we believed it right. Even in the first group, the people naively laughed and said what idiots the Americans spent so much money, but there were four people left and the rest went to Al-Qaida.

In the second group, they stopped laughing, because this is not the case. Yes, there was a congressional scandal, but not a single person at the Pentagon was fired. The idea that I’ll call the devil to win the devil, and then I’ll deal with him or find the next devil and deal with him, the idea is idiotic. Try to persuade this even at least the old Brzezinski. None of them recognize that this is so. The only thing that has to be done here is to speak directly with the American people or Europeans, in an open form. Plain text saying everything that their superiors and their special services do. At the same time, since the Institute of the Middle East is not a state structure, and the state, diplomats, and the Academy of Sciences are not responsible for me, I carry it out in the form of some enlightening voluntary mission. They are masochists, they come, listen, blush deeply, and then write reports to superiors.

We will see further. Drop stone hammer. We must do what is necessary to destroy all these groups, not paying attention to their threats and all this nonsense. That's all.

RI: We will end our dialogue on this optimistic note, and we hope that if, as you recommend, we will kill the terrorists faster than the Americans teach them, they will sooner or later spit on this matter and decide that they will not worth the money ...
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    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 13 November 2015 14: 52
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      Quote: Vladimir
      What secret is the Airbus A321 secret services

      Specialists of the service I know that:
      1) he was shot down
      2) who shot down
      3) what will happen to these nonhumans.

      The conclusion is WET! Quietly and without vivid statements ...
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 13 November 2015 15: 16
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        Quote: MIKHAN
        Conclusion one WET!

        Found an interesting info: Media: Special Forces of the Russian Federation captured two CIA officers in Yemen leading the destruction of A-321 flight
        http://warfiles.ru/show-99602-smi-specnaz-rf-zahvatil-v-yemene-dvuh-sotrudnikov-
        cru-rukovodivshih-unichtozheniem-reysa-a-321.html
        1. northern
          northern 13 November 2015 16: 13
          +3
          very amateurish fake
          1. Drmadfisher
            Drmadfisher 14 November 2015 00: 03
            0
            I agree, read this article
        2. OlegLex
          OlegLex 13 November 2015 16: 14
          0
          Very interesting. only one thing is embarrassing if a plane were shot down by a rocket ground air then it would have characteristic damage which information it is simply not possible to hide and shut up in an Egyptian mess.
          1. sovetskyturist
            sovetskyturist 14 November 2015 02: 56
            0
            then he would have characteristic damage
            There are holes from damaging elements, it seems that camouflage is only used for the sake of external mechanical damage [Bombs are installed either in the area of ​​the well or in the aft cargo compartment. They are usually made of explosives only. They do not use ball bearings or metal cubes as a fragmentation device, because for aircraft this is not necessary.] Http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/10/british-foreign-secretary-sa
            ys-bo
            mb-which-means-missile /
        3. Asadullah
          Asadullah 13 November 2015 16: 29
          +9
          Russian special forces captured two CIA officers in Yemen leading the destruction of A-321 flight


          Bullshit, someone wants answers, only a lie it is insensitive. Here, the beautiful Satanovsky gave an example of a subject work:

          A person, from my point of view, even needs to be found. Here they once found Yandarbiev,


          smile In my words, with twenty years of experience .... the only thing is that only persons of the corresponding appearance can work in this region. Unfortunately, they have very poor learning ability and discipline. From this cut-out of the primitive level.

          Yes, special forces in such conditions does not work. Special Forces is a military unit whose tasks are related to the interaction with other units. I hope that the times when, for the sake of some flapper, two dozen classy fighters were thrown to slaughter, I hope forever.
        4. veksha50
          veksha50 13 November 2015 16: 35
          +1
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          Found an interesting info: Media: Special Forces of the Russian Federation captured two CIA officers in Yemen leading the destruction of A-321 flight



          This news was the day before yesterday, and so idioticly described that it was very difficult to get into this crap ...
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 13 November 2015 18: 54
            +1
            Quote: veksha50
            This news was the day before yesterday, and is so idioticly described


            Indeed, it is very similar to bullshit, but for what purpose?
            (cry.)
        5. PQ-18
          PQ-18 13 November 2015 16: 39
          0
          if there had been an OUTSIDE impact from an anti-aircraft missile, then the characteristic fragmentation holes in the skin of the aircraft would reveal almost INSTANTLY!
        6. NIKNN
          NIKNN 13 November 2015 22: 30
          +3
          tronin.maxim (3) SU Today, 15:16

          Found an interesting info: Media: Special Forces of the Russian Federation captured two CIA officers in Yemen leading the destruction of A-321 flight
          http://warfiles.ru/show-99602-smi-specnaz-rf-zahvatil-v-yemene-dvuh-sotrudnikov-


          cru-rukovodivshih-unichtozheniem-reysa-a-321.html


          Have you read the comments in your link? fool
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 13 November 2015 15: 22
        +3
        Satanovsky’s interesting idea of ​​defeating terrorism requires that white people do not form a tergroup from the natives, that's all. It must be admitted that a full-fledged war is going on in the Middle East. Starting from the USA and ending with Iran, Qatar, S. Arabia, Turkey - everyone takes part in it. Moreover, Syria and Russia are represented in this war by regular units. Here you have the third world hybrid.
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 13 November 2015 15: 41
          +7
          Quote: Proxima
          Satanovsky’s interesting idea of ​​defeating terrorism requires that white people do not form a tergroup from the natives, that's all. It must be admitted that a full-fledged war is going on in the Middle East. Starting from the USA and ending with Iran, Qatar, S. Arabia, Turkey - everyone takes part in it. Moreover, Syria and Russia are represented in this war by regular units. Here you have the third world hybrid.

          World War 3 is already on and its Nobel Peace Prize laureate Barack Obama began by launching the so-called Arab spring and flaming up the whole Middle East, it will be very difficult to extinguish it there is such a tangle of snakes Qatar, Saudi still damn who, but you need to extinguish otherwise it could inflame our house, over Ukraine is already nearby.
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 13 November 2015 15: 53
            +7
            Quote: 79807420129
            Quote: Proxima
            Satanovsky’s interesting idea of ​​defeating terrorism requires that white people do not form a tergroup from the natives, that's all. It must be admitted that a full-fledged war is going on in the Middle East. Starting from the USA and ending with Iran, Qatar, S. Arabia, Turkey - everyone takes part in it. Moreover, Syria and Russia are represented in this war by regular units. Here you have the third world hybrid.

            World War 3 is already on and its Nobel Peace Prize laureate Barack Obama began by launching the so-called Arab spring and flaming up the whole Middle East, it will be very difficult to extinguish it there is such a tangle of snakes Qatar, Saudi still damn who, but you need to extinguish otherwise it could inflame our house, over Ukraine is already nearby.

            You need to extinguish in only one way, namely to find a thread in this ball. There is only one thread in the USA, everything else is secondary. While the struggle is going on in our territory (Eurasia), nothing will change. The enemy must be beaten in his citadel. Namely, to transfer all this to the American continent. Fund some Mexican organization like the Catholic Brothers for the Return of Texas and California. Then the Yankees will quickly press their tails.
        2. Altona
          Altona 13 November 2015 16: 05
          +7
          Quote: Proxima
          Interesting thought of Satanovsky

          --------------------


          to whom in a bummer to read ... here is the link, the second time I give ...
          1. Absurdidat
            Absurdidat 13 November 2015 16: 13
            0
            Satan on Vesti FM has been transmitting for a couple of weeks now, who did not know. It is interesting. Although everything pulls on itself, it’s not a professional presenter, of course, and the co-host boy, for whom they have put a drink to offer, does not save the situation much.
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 13 November 2015 17: 31
              +1
              Honestly, I would take the morning broadcast from Solovyov and give it to Satanovsky, otherwise it’s a very uncomfortable broadcasting time from 14 to 17.
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      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain 13 November 2015 15: 25
        21
        Yes, you read the hair stand on end, and then you understand the speech of the GDP at the UN State Assembly and what he asked the black-maned monkey; "Do you even understand what you have done? They don’t understand horseradish. They’re a snake ball."
      4. milann
        milann 13 November 2015 15: 52
        +6
        Quote: MIKHAN
        We must do what is necessary to destroy all these groups, not paying attention to their threats and all this nonsense. That's all.

        There is nothing to comment on. Satanovsky explained everything on his fingers.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 13 November 2015 16: 01
          +1
          Quote: milann
          Quote: MIKHAN
          We must do what is necessary to destroy all these groups, not paying attention to their threats and all this nonsense. That's all.

          There is nothing to comment on. Satanovsky explained everything on his fingers.

          It's one thing to "explain with fingers" and quite another to act in real life ... God bless them!
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 November 2015 17: 11
          +8
          Quote: milann
          There is nothing to comment on. Satanovsky explained everything on his fingers.

          Satanovsky is a bright and knowledgeable head. In the program Evening with Solovyov, he directly named the customer of the terrorist attack of our "Watermelon", this is the Minister of Defense of Qatar. And then he expressed an idea that I fully share - the performers are pawns, of which there are many and they are just one piece of material .It is necessary to identify those who ordered such terrorist attacks against our citizens and, regardless of status, political weight, bank accounts, to find and kill. So that the person who is going to order a terrorist attack against the citizens of Russia not only understands, but knows that he will ALWAYS be found and killed.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 14 November 2015 02: 07
            +2
            The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Qatar, and not the Minister of Defense.
            Qatar then should be deprived of attendants if there are reinforced concrete docks. International embargo. If the UN does not support and there are docs on the aircraft, then a couple of calibers for them on the terminals. And we will deprive them of attendants and let us know what kind of people on the plane you will answer in any way. I remember in Qatar the Russian ambassador was badly treated. Maybe, of course, a radical proposal and you can come up with a "milder" punishment, but these Arabian monarchs have become insolent. And without a fist they won't understand.
            I remember the employees of our embassy were kidnapped in Lebanon. The answer was so indicative that no one else wanted to contact the USSR. hi
            1. andrewkor
              andrewkor 14 November 2015 05: 57
              0
              boschki pootrezali gadam !!
      5. volot-voin
        volot-voin 13 November 2015 15: 56
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The conclusion is WET! Quietly and without vivid statements ...

        Of course, it is necessary to punish, and also help (say through Iran) the Houthis in Yemen, tell them how to "" bomb Qatar is great ""
      6. maxiban
        maxiban 13 November 2015 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The conclusion is WET! Quietly and without vivid statements ...


        It is necessary to wet sponsors and ideologists, and this is America. And while these nits are in force - this will happen regularly.
  2. cniza
    cniza 13 November 2015 14: 51
    13
    What a secret, if it is, we will never know, but Satan's clever and professional. Thank.
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    1. Scoun
      Scoun 13 November 2015 15: 00
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir
      I think the operation of retaliation will be brutal. The truth is not public ...

      If this happens .... it will certainly be voiced from the screens at a high level ... The government now needs as many "likes" as possible ... and any information that can bring a positive response from the people will be used to the maximum.
      PS
      Makarevich was shod with "love" ...
      RIA News
      14:18
      Makarevich robbed during a tour in Ukraine
      Russian musician Andrei Makarevich said that he was robbed during a tour in Ukraine. According to him, unknown persons stole from his bag all the money in the night train Lviv - Mogilev. Makarevich did not specify whether he had contacted law enforcement authorities regarding the theft.

      I think he shouldn't go to the authorities, let him think that he provided "humanitarian aid".
      1. Altona
        Altona 13 November 2015 16: 02
        +1
        Quote: Scoun
        I think he should not go to the authorities,

        -------------------------
        What authorities should he contact, the linear department of the transport police? So in Russia he will be sent to Zhitomir ... And in Zhitomir he will be told "sho for the burial of cynosities and a penny, the brigade will not be visible" ...
      2. lukewarm
        lukewarm 14 November 2015 09: 11
        +1
        Quote: Scoun
        Makarevich was shod with "love" ...

        I'm glad for the "master". "No home, no friends, no enemies" Now there is no shovel too. Bghavo, AndKhryusha.
  4. vorobey
    vorobey 13 November 2015 14: 54
    10
    postscript surprised ... whether optimistic ...

    or maybe all the same shy away from Qatar ... it will not be worse ...
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 13 November 2015 14: 56
      +6
      Why are you talking about it? Drive at a high speed on a banana ... and wash them off ... there is territory ... pah
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 13 November 2015 15: 10
        10
        Quote: Captain Air Force
        Why are you talking about it? Drive at a high speed on a banana ... and wash them off ... there is territory ... pah


        ride on a banana is so pranks ... it is necessary to shy away so that the Saudis wipe away and feel in California .... sometimes it is better to be a fool who are afraid ... wassat

        because a lot of problems are being solved ... Poor little pirates when they drowned by accident since then I have not heard that our boats were captured ... wink
        1. Erg
          Erg 13 November 2015 16: 04
          +1
          A wedge is knocked out with a wedge. Invest in the local "rip-off". Let the guys have some fun in Qatar bully
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 November 2015 15: 30
      +1
      Quote: vorobey

      or maybe all the same shy away from Qatar ... it will not be worse ...

      Sanya, the article says if we shy on Qatar by hitting amers. They have a base there, and Qatar is too small.
      I’m healthy.
      1. Erg
        Erg 13 November 2015 16: 10
        0
        And that will be? Well, let's apologize to the "world community", they say, got confused with the coordinates. Like a Yankee with a hospital. wassat
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 13 November 2015 19: 55
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: vorobey

        or maybe all the same shy away from Qatar ... it will not be worse ...

        Sanya, the article says if we shy on Qatar by hitting amers. They have a base there, and Qatar is too small.
        I’m healthy.


        Hi ... what the hell with Syria in an hour to warn and ... mustache ...
      3. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 13 November 2015 21: 51
        0
        Nothing, let the Americans bend down. Ready or not, here I come.
    3. volot-voin
      volot-voin 13 November 2015 16: 05
      +2
      Quote: vorobey
      or maybe all the same shy away from Qatar ... it will not be worse

      It’s a good thing, of course, but are you ready for the 3rd world in the active phase? Amers have a base there. It is necessary to enter from the Hussites of Yemen. With them like water off a duck, they are already fighting.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 13 November 2015 19: 54
        +2
        Quote: volot-voin
        It is necessary to enter from the Hussites


        yes it’s possible with them, but the name somehow stirs up ... will it not be stuck in the back of a man at a crucial moment ... and all the same, once and for all with amers then you will stay ..
    4. lukewarm
      lukewarm 14 November 2015 09: 13
      0
      laughing I would like to, but they say the same - no matter how shy - you get on the mattress base. And they are still in quotation marks, but "partners". We must first call them enemies, cleanse their agents from power. And then maybe you won't have to jump around.
  5. Million
    Million 13 November 2015 14: 57
    +5
    Yes, nothing will happen. A little more time will pass and everyone will be forgotten, except for the relatives of the victims. And politicians will somehow agree among themselves
    1. OlegLex
      OlegLex 13 November 2015 16: 04
      +2
      Here you are, my friend, wrong, we will not forget. We will not forget because they will not let us forget. We are on the verge of a great war, a huge war, and maybe even the last one for our civilization, and what our leadership is doing now is preventive measures to avoid it (at best) and in the worst, we gain time to prepare for this very war. You probably laughed in a fist when the GDP announced and approved at the level of the Law the need for citizens to pass the TRP standards, I will not be surprised that the next step will be the return to the NVP schools (for those who will explain the basic military training to young people). And foreign intelligence will not forget, find and multiply customers by zero, so without fanaticism that it would not be particularly exciting the world's economic elite, because there are still those spiders in the bank that it will be a joy to them if it is quiet and kind of like himself. the main thing is to make the right conclusions.
      1. cniza
        cniza 13 November 2015 16: 13
        0
        Quote: OlegLex
        And foreign intelligence will not forget, find and multiply customers by zero, so without fanaticism that it would not be particularly exciting the world's economic elite, because there are still those spiders in the bank, it will be a joy to them if it is quiet and kind of like himself. the main thing is to make the right conclusions.


        Everything is correct and it happens regularly, the used "material" is written off and everyone is happy.
    2. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 13 November 2015 22: 03
      +1
      Qatar and other sultans and emirs really lost fear. They think that hiding behind the Americans, they can kill anyone for the money they wish. Forgot where their place is. If there is real evidence of involvement in the attack, an international court should be organized and the Qatar should be required to extradite the suspects. In case of failure - an ultimatum and a declaration of war on a terrorist state. And the American base. . . they will dump in silence; they are not accustomed to throwing their allies.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 13 November 2015 23: 59
        +1
        Quote: Nikolai K
        If there is real evidence of involvement in the attack, an international court should be organized and Qatar should be required to extradite suspects

        Why complicate it? The court, extradition, demands ... if a person orders a terrorist attack against our citizens, he must clearly understand that this will not go unpunished and that he will be found and killed. And it will not help not political ties, money and the roof of Washington.
    3. lukewarm
      lukewarm 14 November 2015 09: 16
      0
      There is a grain of reason. It's like with the Kursk. They shied away - "she drowned." But our response is maturing years later. Can and shy away, you can and on the base. And at the same time "apologize". Missed, sorry. And in general it was a meteorite, like near Yekaterinburg.
  6. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 13 November 2015 15: 00
    +4
    The Saudis have invested more in propaganda of their type of Salafist Islam than we in Soviet times in our history in the propaganda of socialist ideas.
    This is a serious threat. We have examples: before this game was with the Saudis, once Prince Abu Faisal visited us, probably the main godfather, if I may say so about the Arabs.
    To try to come to an agreement with the Arabs, or to understand nothing. Or to be self-confident stupid people.
  7. Sibiryak13
    Sibiryak13 13 November 2015 15: 02
    +3
    Interesting conversation. Very clever gentlemen.
  8. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 13 November 2015 15: 04
    10
    Demonovsky has an insider information, always interesting to listen to or read
  9. Tor5
    Tor5 13 November 2015 15: 05
    +5
    A deep, serious and necessary article that explains a lot.
  10. Same lech
    Same lech 13 November 2015 15: 19
    +2
    On this optimistic note, we will end our dialogue and hope that if, as you recommend, we will kill terrorists faster than the Americans train them, they will spit on this matter sooner or later and decide that it’s not worth spending money ...


    smile I join .... despite the fact that the topic is a serious author, it seems like a cheerful person.
  11. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 13 November 2015 15: 22
    +3
    Very interesting interview. For myself, I found answers to many questions.
  12. Diviz
    Diviz 13 November 2015 15: 23
    +3
    America would have already begun to bomb in our place. But we need more special agents and special weapons. Otherwise, isolation of us, and especially of other countries, will lead to a regression.
  13. snifer
    snifer 13 November 2015 15: 31
    +1
    Interesting people are still waiting for someone to tell them, in chess there is a saying "watch the opponent's move, and not the words that accompany this move", but the next move, the ban on flights and the removal of tourists separately from the luggage. Is a terrorist attack
  14. Eustace
    Eustace 13 November 2015 15: 32
    +1
    "The East is a delicate matter, Petruha!" But they O-O-VERY respect the power. Soak these freaks in the toilet!
  15. Army soldier2
    Army soldier2 13 November 2015 15: 33
    +5
    For a long time I did not get such pleasure from reading publications in VO.
    I always respected Evgeny Satanovsky for intelligence and analytical abilities. Satanovsky is the head!
    Interestingly, I will live to see the time when Qatar will have to pay our bills?
  16. Averias
    Averias 13 November 2015 15: 51
    +3
    "The words are not of a boy, but of a husband" - I'm talking about Mr. Satanovsky. The smartest and most erudite person who always has something to say, as well as a sober assessment of the situation. Rarely the first time I read articles scrupulously, first along the "diagonal". I read this one as if.
  17. yuriy55
    yuriy55 13 November 2015 15: 58
    +1
    Satanovsky correctly says that he does not have the right to speak on behalf of Russian officials. He is a private person.
    But I really want to hear not only from the lips of this intelligent person, but also from someone very official. From the one who is the guarantor, behind which is the people living in a country with the name of Russia. I want something similar to happen:
    .And here everyone heard him. Because a specific word was said here: “Are you bombing us or blowing up our airports?” You will not be.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 November 2015 15: 58
    +5
    I love Satanovsky. Great professional and clever. Therefore, he understands that a multi-parameter problem does not have simple solutions.
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 13 November 2015 17: 46
      +1
      Yes, a very smart guy and a cool specialist. Able to explain, moreover.
  19. veksha50
    veksha50 13 November 2015 16: 20
    +2
    "When you hit them, it is clear that the whole ball of snakes looks upall to whom they paid. And this is such crowd of human rights organizations, officials The UN of different nationalities, not Arabs, everyone who is connected with refugees, with human rights, unfortunately "...

    Um ... well said ... and these snakes around the world - can not be counted, including ours ...

    The dream is to knock out all the snakes from the snakes ... However, I repeat again - the dream ... They are like in a fairy tale - you chop off one head - two will grow ...
  20. veksha50
    veksha50 13 November 2015 16: 33
    0
    "kill terrorists faster than they are trained by the Americans"...

    Smart and simple, great program for action ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 13 November 2015 18: 00
      0
      Or is it better to kill teachers? There are fewer teachers, less money will go to ice axes.
  21. chinelev. v
    chinelev. v 13 November 2015 16: 34
    0
    Well done Satanovsky! That should be the adviser to the President.
  22. Aroma77
    Aroma77 13 November 2015 16: 43
    0
    Quote: 79807420129
    Quote: Proxima
    Satanovsky’s interesting idea of ​​defeating terrorism requires that white people do not form a tergroup from the natives, that's all. It must be admitted that a full-fledged war is going on in the Middle East. Starting from the USA and ending with Iran, Qatar, S. Arabia, Turkey - everyone takes part in it. Moreover, Syria and Russia are represented in this war by regular units. Here you have the third world hybrid.

    World War 3 is already on and its Nobel Peace Prize laureate Barack Obama began by launching the so-called Arab spring and flaming up the whole Middle East, it will be very difficult to extinguish it there is such a tangle of snakes Qatar, Saudi still damn who, but you need to extinguish otherwise it could inflame our house, over Ukraine is already nearby.

    It is surprising that some still think that Obama is actually in charge. You might also think that Medvedev makes decisions on his own) Neither Obama nor the presidential administration is a driving force, they are all ruled by "neocons".
  23. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 13 November 2015 16: 49
    +2
    Another "open secret". Add 2 + 2. The simplest arithmetic, as it were ... And without the hysterics in the social networks of "highly informed" inethamsters. What was really there, in 20 years "possible versions" from "analysts" will explain. I repeat: this is WAR, brothers! Servicemen - former and current ones are enough for understanding. Those who like to "pick it up", especially those who cannot do anything longer, except to collect gossip on the internet, can be advised to SERVE THE MOTHERLAND for a few years at least. To have some basic "understanding" skills. And only then "to reason like cleverly".
  24. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 13 November 2015 18: 26
    0
    Middle East-OPG !!! Maybe the stabilization task is to "remove the roof" !! ?? because this gadyushnik, at one fine time, can "explode" and then it will be impossible to extinguish this process.
  25. Prutkov
    Prutkov 13 November 2015 18: 26
    +1
    Interesting, but not indisputable. I agree that Qatar = ISIS = Musmane Brothers, that Saud = Al-Qaeda. But then ... Yes, both the Saud and Qatar could have set the terrorists on the plane. Only the ISIS members, who cut their heads in the video and burn people alive, noted their act of terrorism, somehow, quietly, quietly. Al-Qaeda didn't say anything at all. I doubt it. And the attack itself was carried out very technologically. They still have no idea where and what kind of bomb exploded. At the same time, they lose sight of the fact that there is another country that Russia has spoiled its plans in Syria, which has very effective intelligence, which does not hesitate to use sabotage in foreign countries (for example, in Iran or in Saudi Arabia) .It is, this country can get the maximum gesheft from the upset relations between Egypt and Russia, getting paid for tourism ("Relax in the safest resorts in Israel! Fly from the safe airports in Israel!") Why Satanovsky kept silent about this participant in the Middle East conflict ?
    1. Wlad
      Wlad 13 November 2015 20: 55
      +3
      Maybe you should not escalate? Let's wait for the official statements ... This is first. Secondly, one must be careful with the charges. Arrange ter. an act to make money on tourism ??? Do you even think before you write. And why exactly Israel? Turkey, Cyprus, China, Thailand, Vietnam - a flow of tourists is being redirected to these countries. Why not them? I don’t have much sympathy for Israel, I am neutral towards it, but that’s too much ...
  26. Mobilized
    Mobilized 13 November 2015 18: 45
    +5
    To all sincerely admiring Mr. Satanovsky, I suggest that you familiarize yourself with his work "Would you go ...". In his book, Satanovsky writes that the national idea for Russia is not only NOT NEEDED, but even contraindicated. Mr. Satanovsky invites the Russian people to abandon purposeful development, and advises to live just like that - for their own pleasure ...

    All the same, it is striking how still naive there are a huge number of Russian people who project their inner purity on others and do not even suspect that these others can be insidious and malicious in relation to the Russian people.
    Mr. Satanovsky is indeed very knowledgeable and educated, but what goals does he pursue? .. Is it worth it to admire the erudition of a person without deeply analyzing his personality, internal motives, and the direction of his actions? Maybe it's time for Russian people to include extreme criticality in their assessments ?!
    1. Wlad
      Wlad 13 November 2015 21: 13
      +1
      The opinion of Satanovsky is the opinion of Satanovsky. And what's wrong with that? What goals he pursues, I do not know. But his opinion, for me personally, is not superfluous. And why do you write that: "can be insidious and malicious in relation to Russian people "? Russia is multinational. I myself am Russian, but somehow ... I hope there is a mistake
      1. Mobilized
        Mobilized 13 November 2015 21: 32
        0
        Not. Not a typo. Hitler, Napoleon and others tried to destroy precisely the Russian people, and other nations with a trailer. And Satanovsky will be OUTSIDE the national idea of ​​Russia - he will enjoy the company of his like-minded people.
  27. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 13 November 2015 20: 00
    0
    Quote: Mobilized
    Mr. Satanovsky is indeed very knowledgeable and educated, but what goals does he pursue? .. Is it worth it to admire the erudition of a person without deeply analyzing his personality, internal motives, and the direction of his actions?

    Well, this is his vision of life - live yourself and do not disturb others! But he is good in BV pros, this cannot be taken away, and there is no need to argue with ideology - history will judge everyone in its own way. hi
    1. Mobilized
      Mobilized 13 November 2015 20: 17
      +1
      If this gentleman is regularly promoted in prime time on the state TV channel Russia, then his ideology is seeded in Russian heads. And what will these seeds give rise to in Russian society? "Would you go ..." is Satanovsky's direct appeal to the Russian National Idea .... at least evaluate the level of culture of this gentleman. I am already silent about the essential characteristics. If such a person broadcasts on the main channels of the country, he will already have to answer for his ideas and for his actions. Now this is not only his own business.
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 13 November 2015 22: 44
      +3
      Vlad5307 (1) RU Today, 20:00

      Well, this is his vision of life - live yourself and do not disturb others! But he is good in BV pros, this cannot be taken away, and there is no need to argue with ideology - history will judge everyone in its own way.


      When history judges, it can be too late and expensive. Waiting for someone to decide (history or someone else) smacks of fatalism. Now, if this hour is to neutralize danger, then let history judge yes
  28. Nekarmadlen
    Nekarmadlen 13 November 2015 20: 47
    0
    By the way, they say that the land in Egypt around Hurghada belongs to the Saudis ... Saudi Arabia invested very decently in the Egyptian tourism business
  29. Poplar505
    Poplar505 13 November 2015 21: 27
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    Do not consider it cruel, but I consider the following one of the ways to at least reduce the number of people wishing to commit a ter.act:
    1. To abolish the moratorium on the death penalty.
    2. Introduce military courts for these scum. (With all the attributes of this action). There is a war, but the war is different.
    3. Are parents responsible for the children? Yes! To the mines! And his children there too. For complete happiness - all brothers, sisters and nephews. All of them are one berry field.
    4. No lawyers, the investigation and all legal proceedings shall be closed, during the day after collecting the evidence base to conduct court hearings. The sentence shall be executed within a month. Announce the results through the media.
    5. To resume the practice of retaliation for crimes on someone else’s territory through special operations (be the enemy at least the king of the sea, at least an ordinary mercenary).
    Of course, all this under our power-holding is almost not real. It's a pity.
  30. cormorant
    cormorant 13 November 2015 21: 32
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    I read everything in one go, thanks. Satanovsky, as always, chewed everything clearly and explained. The key phrase here is: “We must do what is necessary to destroy all these groups, not paying attention to their threats and all this nonsense.”
  31. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 14 November 2015 00: 50
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    The article by E.Ya., as always, is impeccable and thorough. Give comments to her-
    it's like a first grader to climb with advice to the academician.
  32. Support
    Support 14 November 2015 03: 49
    0
    Ha, you need to do this - a terrorist attack on the Russian Federation, shy away from one ally of the United States, something else - again from another ally and so on. But it’s necessary to beat so that the Allies of the United States lick their lyuli for about 25 years, or even more .... Russia needs to be protected