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Air base in the Southern Military District received the latest Mi-8AMTSH

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To the army base aviation in the Krasnodar Territory received 4 Mi-8AMTSH Terminator helicopters, reports RIA News message of the press service of the Southern Military District.




“Four newest transport and combat helicopters Mi-8AMTSH“ Terminator ”entered service with the air force base of the army aviation of the Southern Military District, located in the Krasnodar Territory, as part of the planned re-equipping of the military district. To date, thanks to the introduction of these aircraft units, the units of the Southern Military District airbase are fully equipped with Mi-8AMTSH helicopters., Says the release.

The cars arrived from the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant (Buryatia), having previously passed military acceptance.

The vehicles "are equipped with modern navigation equipment, night vision devices, which allows flights in all weather conditions, as well as in conditions of poor visibility," the press service said.
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  1. Vadim237
    Vadim237 11 November 2015 17: 52 New
    +4
    The main thing is that there would be a 5-channel surveillance and guidance system on these machines.
    1. War and Peace
      War and Peace 11 November 2015 18: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Vadim237
      The main thing is that there would be a 5-channel surveillance and guidance system on these machines.


      6 channel is better, and 7mi is even better ...
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 November 2015 20: 35 New
        +5
        Air base in the Southern Military District received the latest Mi-8AMTSH

        Why not write nonsense ((Vorobey corrected vocabulary and spelling)! THE NEWEST Attack Helicopters in the Russian Federation are: MI-28 or Ka-52 !!!!
        There are NO other options for today ?! request
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 11 November 2015 20: 57 New
          0
          Something was missing you, sir!
        2. Archon
          Archon 12 November 2015 03: 55 New
          0
          pleases at least that they didn’t write something loud once again like “The airbase in the Southern Military District received the latest“ Terminators ”"
        3. DenZ
          DenZ 12 November 2015 07: 32 New
          0
          The NEWEST Attack Helicopters in the Russian Federation are: MI-28 or Ka-52 !!!!

          And where in the article is it written that MI-8 AMTSH is an attack helicopter? It is written transport and combat.
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      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 11 November 2015 21: 04 New
        +1
        These do not exist, there is only optical, thermal imaging, laser, television and radar.
        1. just exp
          just exp 11 November 2015 22: 31 New
          +1
          and telepathic where to delhi?
          Threat about six and seven channel guidance and reconnaissance it was actually a banter.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 November 2015 21: 08 New
        0
        Attack helicopters from the Russian system can I squeeze NATO hard? pancake ??! END chaliculi !!!

        I'm being put out from the site ..
        He managed to write, but anyway, THE END !!! Pancake!!
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 11 November 2015 22: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: GSH-18
          Attack helicopters from the Russian system can I squeeze NATO hard? pancake ??! END chaliculi !!!

          I'm being put out from the site ..
          He managed to write, but anyway, THE END !!! Pancake!!

          Weed grass wassat
        2. almost demobil
          almost demobil 12 November 2015 04: 42 New
          0
          Quote: GSH-18
          Attack helicopters from the Russian system can I squeeze NATO hard? pancake ??! END chaliculi !!!

          I'm being put out from the site ..
          He managed to write, but anyway, THE END !!! Pancake!!

          What was it?! belay
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    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 11 November 2015 20: 16 New
      +2
      Costructors did a great job on the machine!
      It looks good, seriously, not like the previous MI-8 in civilian or even camouflage color. good
      Just like burnished, like an automaton!
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      2. gjv
        gjv 11 November 2015 21: 34 New
        +4
        Quote: Starover_Z
        The construction engineers did a great job on the machine!

        And how do you like the new IL-106 transporter ?! bully
        1. just exp
          just exp 11 November 2015 22: 30 New
          +4
          this is not IL-106, alas, this is a fantasy on the PAK TA theme, unfortunately PAK TA (not Il106) will most likely look like an ordinary transporter. and I liked this picture from all angles.
          True, I also liked the render of the armata more than the real armata.
          1. Samaritan
            Samaritan 11 November 2015 23: 02 New
            0

            Well then, just such a thing that triflefellow wink drinks :
  2. venaya
    venaya 11 November 2015 17: 57 New
    +1
    This is our answer to the provocations around Donetsk.
    And yet, all-weather is simply necessary today.
    1. War and Peace
      War and Peace 11 November 2015 18: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: venaya
      This is our answer to the provocations around Donetsk.
      And yet, all-weather is simply necessary today.


      and on the provocation around Gorlovka, what would you answer?
      1. venaya
        venaya 11 November 2015 18: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: War and Peace
        and on the provocation around Gorlovka, what would you answer?

        Gorlovka, Donetsk is a single conglomerate, I see no reason to separate them, and here and there live the same people, our people. We must take care of everyone.
        1. just exp
          just exp 11 November 2015 18: 38 New
          +3
          he did not ask about the one or not the one. he asked, and what would you say?
        2. War and Peace
          War and Peace 11 November 2015 18: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: venaya
          Quote: War and Peace
          and on the provocation around Gorlovka, what would you answer?

          Gorlovka, Donetsk is a single conglomerate, I see no reason to separate them, and here and there live the same people, our people. We must take care of everyone.


          nnda guy also in geography 2 to you, Donetsk and Makeevka-merged, but Gorlovka is not yet. But this is not the point, if you decided to respond to a provocation in Donetsk with the release of Mi-8amtsh, then you should respond to the provocation in Gorlovka according to your logic, no less than the release of Ka-90? And Venya?
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 11 November 2015 22: 25 New
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            Quote: War and Peace
            nnda guy also in geography 2 to you, Donetsk and Makeevka-merged, but Gorlovka is not yet.

            Geography teacher?
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  3. marshes
    marshes 11 November 2015 17: 59 New
    +1
    It looks cool, two spheres below and Warts, three Radars? Although the taste and color of the markers are different.
    It’s not bad to think about a turret with a 14.5-23 mm gun or a multi-barrel machine gun of 12.7 mm caliber in the doorway. On the port side. And an additional door on the starboard side.
    1. Lenin
      Lenin 11 November 2015 18: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      Looks cool, two spheres below and Warts, three Radars?


      Two spheres below? A man because, therefore, with eggs ... laughing
  4. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 11 November 2015 18: 00 New
    +1
    Everything is correct, from the South it is absolutely necessary to strengthen oneself, in order to iron bugs if something happens.
    Although apparently soon in Europe it will be difficult to hear European speech through the cries of Asian traders and beggars ...
  5. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 11 November 2015 18: 00 New
    +2
    If I am not mistaken, yesterday there was an article that such "Triminators :)" began to be supplied to SeverA. This is a good trend, however!
  6. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 11 November 2015 18: 02 New
    +9
    In Syria, a stinger got into this, nonhumans shouted alla I to a bar, and the turntable flew to the base on one engine.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 11 November 2015 18: 18 New
      +2
      There is such a video on YouTube, he was dumbfounded by what he saw!
    2. Lenin
      Lenin 11 November 2015 18: 53 New
      +2
      Well, those who were going to the bar, I hope they didn’t get there. laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 November 2015 19: 00 New
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        Quote: Lenin
        Well, those who were going to the bar, I hope they didn’t get there. laughing



        They went to Allah.
        1. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 11 November 2015 19: 27 New
          0
          Muslims will not agree with such a statement.

          pisi:
          And they will be right ...
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  7. Tor5
    Tor5 11 November 2015 18: 04 New
    0
    Good deal! Very reliable machine!
  8. Dmitriy
    Dmitriy 11 November 2015 18: 08 New
    0
    Cool !! We must soon arm ourselves.
  9. Coconut
    Coconut 11 November 2015 18: 12 New
    -6
    you, as in kindergarten, clap your hands on super new cars ... and you thought about the question of why they threw them there?
    1. shans2
      shans2 11 November 2015 18: 27 New
      +1
      because there is a re-equipment with new equipment until 2020 ....
    2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 11 November 2015 18: 33 New
      +4
      Speak rather, otherwise Rostovites are already fleeing to Arkhangelsk in a panic laughing
    3. Samaritan
      Samaritan 11 November 2015 19: 36 New
      +1
      ..Four newest transport and combat helicopters Mi-8AMTSH "Terminator" entered service with the army aviation airbase of the Southern Military District, stationed in the Krasnodar Territory, as part of the planned re-equipment of the military district troops ...
      Threw from the factory !!!
      Change the coconut already, otherwise it’s sausage ...
  10. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 November 2015 18: 13 New
    +2
    These helicopters have no limits to perfection. You can upgrade so much more ..
  11. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 11 November 2015 18: 14 New
    +3
    It looks like domestic dvigles stand on these machines. And the paint is specific, although I'm not an expert in this matter. They look good.
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    2. gjv
      gjv 11 November 2015 21: 46 New
      0
      Quote: dmi.pris
      It seems that on these machines domestic dvigly stand

      The upgraded version of the Mi-8AMTSh military transport helicopter with the new Klimov VK-2500-03 gas turbine engines, the more powerful TA-14 auxiliary power unit and an updated avionics kit.
  12. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 11 November 2015 18: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: Coco
    why did they throw them there?

    So enlighten us why. And then we will like to kindergarten ... pat, that's just in the hands or on the head depends on you.
  13. atamankko
    atamankko 11 November 2015 18: 26 New
    +2
    Closer to the Ukrainians, from there it has long been disgusting.
  14. viktor561
    viktor561 11 November 2015 18: 44 New
    +1
    Step by step - the Russian Armed Forces receives new equipment and weapons and it pleases
  15. V.ic
    V.ic 11 November 2015 19: 00 New
    0
    Pay attention to the output device of the starboard engine / depending on the flight /. It looks like it is partially covered by some kind of "stove". If anyone knows what this "plate" is, then explain ...
  16. GOgaRu
    GOgaRu 11 November 2015 20: 06 New
    0
    I really don't eat; what needs this helicopter? If it is a transport one, then it needs a good jamming station for missile guidance systems and armor at important nodes. If the shock, then he is definitely weak - even the more sophisticated "crocodile" shock abilities are not up to par. One cannon with his head would be enough for him. They also hang NURSs on it for some reason, reduce the carrying capacity. If they fly up close to them, they knock them down, from afar the beat-efficiency is low: a lot of noise and dust, and the result tends to zero.
    1. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 11 November 2015 21: 03 New
      -1
      Are you a specialist in the use of helicopters in battle?
    2. not main
      not main 11 November 2015 21: 04 New
      -1
      Quote: GOgaRu
      I really don't eat; what needs this helicopter? If it is a transport one, then it needs a good jamming station for missile guidance systems and armor at important nodes. If the shock, then he is definitely weak - even the more sophisticated "crocodile" shock abilities are not up to par. One cannon with his head would be enough for him. They also hang NURSs on it for some reason, reduce the carrying capacity. If they fly up close to them, they knock them down, from afar the beat-efficiency is low: a lot of noise and dust, and the result tends to zero.

      What an "expert"! The main thing is that the result of "expertise" tends to zero! And NURS is a very effective weapon! Even in caliber 57, not to mention the caliber 80mm! NURS is launched on average at a distance of 1500m, and try to launch MANPADS from the NURS affected zone!
  17. kasperian_1
    kasperian_1 11 November 2015 20: 24 New
    +1
    MI-8 is an eternal helicopter, can be upgraded to the end of the century)
  18. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 11 November 2015 20: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: V.ic
    Pay attention to the output device of the starboard engine / depending on the flight /. It looks like it is partially covered by some kind of "stove". If anyone knows what this "plate" is, then explain ...

    open the photo. this plate is not above the dvigla nozzle, but on the fuselage
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 12 November 2015 06: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Denis-Skiff
      this plate is not above the dvigla nozzle, but on the fuselage

      It is clear to the goat that the specified object is fixed on the engine nacelle and not on the output device (VU). However, look closely at the shadow of the "slab" on the bonnet next to the VA, hence the "slab" shields the RT. A simplified analogue of "Ears"? Who in the subject comment, if not laziness!
      1. gjv
        gjv 12 November 2015 10: 54 New
        0
        Quote: V.ic
        However, look closely at the shadow of the "slab" on the bonnet next to the VA, hence the "slab" shields the RT. A simplified analogue of "Ears"?

        Victor, take a closer look at the shadow from the "slab". For example, enlarge the picture by 300%. No shadow or "ears" sticking out over the engine nozzle. There is a slight shadow from the nozzle on the nacelle. Here's another photo, shooting not against the sun and closer to 3/4 angle, i.e. it shows better how it is arranged.

        "Plate" - a protective strip over the cover of the power plant control units compartment. It gives a small shadow, but the contours of this shadow are even flat, they do not go into the engine nozzle in any way. On the civilian version of the Mi-8, there is no protective cover.
        Under the cover: transmission drive shaft; main gearbox; gear control rods; power steering screw control; engine power line and fuel tank; struts and main gear frame. hi
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 12 November 2015 11: 46 New
          0
          THANKS for clarification on the protective pad! good In your picture, it is more visible and adjoins the casing of the gear compartment. In the picture in the article, this detail is at a fairly large distance from the body, a gap is visible. M. b. Is it a kind of "shutter" of the gear compartment when firing heat-guided missiles? / Like: let the engine "Khan", but the gearbox is intact ... the flight continues / what
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          2. gjv
            gjv 12 November 2015 12: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: V.ic
            let the engine "khan", but the gearbox is intact ... the flight continues /

            True noticed the flight continues.
            In case of failure of one of the engines, it is necessary to immediately reduce the overall step to a value that ensures the rotation speed of the HB is not less than 92%, while at the same time, by deflecting the control knob and pedals, the resulting roll and turn are countered.
            When accelerating or braking, set the flight speed to 150 ... 120 km / h.
            In case of failure at high altitudes, drop to a height of 500 ... 1000 m.
            If necessary, turn off the PIC (only after leaving the icing zone).
            Determine the failed engine by the readings of the instruments. In order to avoid erroneous actions when turning off the engine, without showing excessive haste, turn off the faulty (failed) engine.
            In the event of a failure of one of the engines, the second engine, when the PD switch is turned on, automatically goes into high mode, up to the emergency mode, depending on the flight mass and flight altitude. Engine emergency operation is determined by increasing the turbocharger speed relative to the take-off mode by 1% and illuminating the display of the CR LV. (RIGHTS.) DV. It is allowed to use emergency engine operation for 6, 15 or 60 minutes, without exceeding the maximum permissible gas temperature in front of the turbine.
          3. Just BB
            Just BB 12 November 2015 19: 26 New
            0
            The "shutter" covers the hydraulic compartment and helicopter control units (main and tail rotor) from bullets and shrapnel. Without engines, a helicopter can be landed, without a hydraulic system - there is no and not always "landing".
            And do not listen to the "tanker" (I read the old instructions to the Mi-8mt crew on actions in case of engine FAILURE) - in case of combat damage, let alone the engine, - it would never occur to anyone to fly somewhere! "pull" to the ground! And with a Kalash in hand, pray for friends
        2. Just BB
          Just BB 12 November 2015 18: 00 New
          0
          gear control rod;

          Very much! good
          Maybe it's better about an avatar? hi
  19. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 11 November 2015 20: 59 New
    +1
    Beautiful car! I often think that if designers from the military-industrial complex were allowed to the Auto industry, then SUCH BEAUTIFUL CARS would be in Russia. Only the prefix "would" get in the way!
  20. Svetlana
    Svetlana 11 November 2015 22: 30 New
    -1
    Quote: War and Peace
    Ka-90
    To reduce noise, I propose to build an electric helicopter coaxial circuit. The advantage of coaxial-type helicopters over uniaxial-type helicopters is that energy is not wasted unnecessarily on the circular (tangential) unwinding of air around the helicopter. For example, a helicopter layout is as follows: two coaxial asynchronous electric motors of the Duyunov motor-wheel type without permanent neodymium magnets with a winding, Slavyanka rotate the vertical thrust helicopter propellers in the opposite direction, as on a KA-52 helicopter. Between the blades of the upper and lower propellers of vertical thrust have a payload cabin, batteries and reversible propellers with electric Duyunova horizontal thrust of smaller diameter than the vertical thrust screws. The power source is aluminum-air batteries. After vertical take-off or take-off with a shorter mileage on an air cushion, the turns of the vertical thrust screws are reduced, and the turns of the horizontal thrust screws are increased. So reach a flight speed of up to 500km / h. After the flight, the container with discharged aluminum-air batteries is completely replaced with a new container with fresh batteries. A container with discharged batteries is sent for recharging. In air-aluminum batteries, an ordinary aqueous solution of sodium chloride is used as the electrolyte, and air is used in the chemical reaction that generates electricity.

    About aluminum-air batteries - see:
    http://vido.com.ua/article/10992/eliektromobil-bolieie-1500-km-na-odnom-zariadie



    -aliuminii-vozdushnyie-akkumuliatory-na-podkhodie /
    http://www.battery-industry.ru/2015/02/11/воздушно-алюминиева
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 11 November 2015 22: 36 New
      0
      Duyunov's unique asynchronous electric motor without permanent magnets with oblique ring windings to increase efficiency:

      About aluminum-air batteries - see:
      http://vido.com.ua/article/10992/eliektromobil-bolieie-1500-km-na-odnom-zariadie

      -aliuminii-vozdushnyie-akkumuliatory-na-podkhodie /
      http://www.battery-industry.ru/2015/02/11/воздушно-алюминиева
      About aluminum-graphite batteries - see:
      http://hitech.vesti.ru/news/view/id/6768
      An aluminum-graphite battery, according to Stanford, went through seven and a half thousand discharge and charge cycles without any loss of properties. But there is still saline solution there, and the creators admit this.
      1. atalef
        atalef 11 November 2015 22: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Svetlana
        Duyunov's unique asynchronous electric motor without permanent magnets with oblique ring windings to increase efficiency

        do induction motors have magnets? belay
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 11 November 2015 22: 55 New
          0
          in any electric motors - both in synchronous and in asynchronous there are electromagnets. In synchronous motors, instead of electromagnets, permanent magnets are sometimes used in the rotor, less often in the stator. But boron-iron-neodymium magnets are expensive, so it’s cheaper to use electric motors without permanent rare earth magnets
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 November 2015 23: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Svetlana
            in any electric motors - both in synchronous and in asynchronous there are electromagnets. In synchronous motors, instead of electromagnets, permanent magnets are sometimes used in the rotor, less often in the stator. But boron-iron-neodymium magnets are expensive, so it’s cheaper to use electric motors without permanent rare earth magnets

            Are you sure about asynchronous? And where they are - in a phase or squirrel-cage rotor belay or in the stator?
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 11 November 2015 23: 40 New
              -1
              In conventional induction motors, the rotor is usually made in the form of a squirrel cage made of copper or aluminum, sometimes reinforced with steel for strength. And in the stator of conventional asynchronizers, 3 electromagnets are used, shifted along the stator ring by 120 degrees. The sinusoidal electric current in the electromagnets of the stator windings of conventional asynchronous motors is also phase-shifted in time by 120 degrees. But there are also asynchronous electric motors with a rotor in which two or many pole permanent magnets are pressed in, although they are rare. The rotating magnetic field of the stator in induction motors has a rotation speed greater than the rotation speed of the rotor. So what about the electromagnets in the stator windings of conventional asynchronous electric motors, you don’t need to worry - they are. They are also in the Duyunov induction motor.
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 17 November 2015 19: 29 New
                0
                In asynchronous electric motors without permanent neodymium magnets with a winding, a Slav (an electric motor-wheel of Duyunov) has an annular squirrel cage rotor located outside around the stator. On a stationary multipolar stator, a Slav is winding. The electrical conductors of the ring rotor can be made of copper alloys, for example, silver-plated beryllium bronze, or aluminum-beryllium-lithium alloy with silicon additives. To reduce eddy current losses for the concentration of magnetic fluxes in the squirrel cage of the rotor and in the stator, stacked cores made of transformer amorphous iron are used. To reduce weight, it is possible to use closed windings made of carbon graphene fibers as electric squirrel cage, which, with the same electrical conductivity, have a lower weight compared to copper and aluminum conductors.
                One of the advantages of using two coaxial asynchronous electric motors without permanent neodymium magnets with a Slavyanka winding (Duyunov motor wheels) to drive the coaxial vertical thrust helicopter propellers in the opposite direction is that if the battery is damaged by a stray bullet, asynchronous motors without constant magnets are able to rotate freely and provide helicopter landing on autorotation. And electric motors with rare earth magnets are not capable of free rotation, they are slowed down by permanent magnets.
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  22. KnightRider
    KnightRider 11 November 2015 22: 34 New
    +1
    Here he is, handsome! good [media = http: //]
    It’s interesting how many of them should be in the troops during the state defense order-2015. I hope to find out soon
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 12 November 2015 05: 50 New
      +2
      This is "another handsome" - "Kazan"! These guys cut through the "chip" faster - the doors on both sides and did not overdo it with weapons! Indeed - a transport and combat helicopter!
      And the "terminator" is complete nonsense!
      Although, what as an option for friendly countries like Nicaragua that can't afford acquire and maintain drums helicopters and transport, but I want ... repeat
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    3. gjv
      gjv 12 November 2015 14: 28 New
      0
      Quote: KnightRider
      It’s interesting how many of them should be in the troops during the state defense order-2015. I hope to find out soon

      According to public procurements, from 2011 to 2015, Mi-8AMT (MTV) was ordered in various configurations for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - 15 pieces, for the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation - 7 pieces. The average price of one car is about 250 million rubles.
  23. ermak.sidorov
    ermak.sidorov 12 November 2015 00: 35 New
    0
    Why was he dubbed the "Terminator"?
    Like "I'll kill everyone! I'll stay alone!"
    It would be better if "Carloson" would fit, or ... what else does it fly there?
  24. Nikotin13
    Nikotin13 12 November 2015 00: 38 New
    +1
    Our honored veteran Mi-8 has long celebrated its 50th anniversary, incl. call it the newest; language does not turn.
    smile
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 12 November 2015 00: 52 New
    0
    Quote: GSH-18
    Attack helicopters from the Russian system can I squeeze NATO hard? pancake ??! END chaliculi !!!

    I'm being put out from the site ..
    He managed to write, but anyway, THE END !!! Pancake!!

    Ur-ra-aa ... pour !!! wassat
  26. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 12 November 2015 04: 07 New
    -1
    As far as I remember, they planned to deliver them to the Arctic !!! Or be afraid, from frost, will start to fall?
  27. Just BB
    Just BB 12 November 2015 06: 02 New
    0
    Quote: non-primary

    And NURS is a very effective weapon! Even in caliber 57

    C5 is "effective" only in commercials - it was not for nothing that it was removed from the ammunition load in the 80s (well, if it's not C-5S, but here the "green humanists" are outraged)
  28. GOgaRu
    GOgaRu 12 November 2015 11: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: non-primary
    Quote: GOgaRu
    I really don't eat; what needs this helicopter? If it is a transport one, then it needs a good jamming station for missile guidance systems and armor at important nodes. If the shock, then he is definitely weak - even the more sophisticated "crocodile" shock abilities are not up to par. One cannon with his head would be enough for him. They also hang NURSs on it for some reason, reduce the carrying capacity. If they fly up close to them, they knock them down, from afar the beat-efficiency is low: a lot of noise and dust, and the result tends to zero.

    What an "expert"! The main thing is that the result of "expertise" tends to zero! And NURS is a very effective weapon! Even in caliber 57, not to mention the caliber 80mm! NURS is launched on average at a distance of 1500m, and try to launch MANPADS from the NURS affected zone!

    Well, if you stand in the open field, then of course Khan. And if there is a hole or a trench, then this volley is like an apchi (unless of course it hits you directly).