"Ilyushin Finance Co." handed over to the FSB an Il-96-400VPU aircraft

In its press release from 9, November Ilyushin Finance Co. (IFC) reported that it had transferred the re-equipped IL-96 aircraft to the customer (FSB).

“The joint stock company 5 in November 2015 of the year commissioned the next Il-96 aircraft to the customer. The aircraft was converted at the Voronezh aircraft plant "VASO" into a special package with the Air Control Center with a luxury cabin, after which it successfully passed the full range of ground and flight tests in accordance with customer requirements. The new aircraft was created on the basis of the IL-96-400T owned by IFK.- quotes a blog bmpd message of the enterprise.

The author explains that we are talking about “the former IL-96-400T cargo aircraft (RA-96104 registration number, 97693201004 serial number), rebuilt into an IL-96-400VPU control aircraft for the Federal Security Service of Russia.”

From the moment it was built in 2011, the aircraft remained in storage at the Voronezh plant. For the first time, plans for its re-equipment became known at the end of 2012. In July, the test flights of the machine were started on 2015.

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[cniza]

A good plane, it was in vain put into oblivion.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: cniza

A good plane, it was in vain put into oblivion.

I don’t argue a good one, but the infa will be released again ... It would be nice!

[cniza]

And what is our President flying on now?

[Engineer]

on the same, all the production of these aircraft was kept only by the airline "Russia".

[Baikonur]

"Ilyushin Finance Co." handed over to the FSB an Il-96-400VPU aircraft

Encrypted by FSBeshensky- 4 period Вladimira PUTina! (Agent 004)
A joke, of course!
But ...

[shuhartred]

Quote: Baikonur

Encrypted by FSBeshensky-4 term of Vladimir Putin! (Agent 004)
A joke, of course!
But ...

Quiet damn it, what are you .... almost all surrendered, and also a marshal! So we’ll shine all the secrets, we’ve burnt to the full.

[FID]

Quote: Engineer

on the same, all the production of these aircraft was kept only by the airline "Russia".

You are mistaken, the President flies on the Il-96-300, I will not give the side numbers, you can see them on TV. And this board 96104 is the former "truck" of the "Polet" Il-96-400 aircraft # 96104 ... And not the aircraft "Russia", but the SLO (special flight unit) ...

[Buffalo]

We ordered IL-96 and Polet, and Aeroflot, and Kubana and the FSB, and the presidential detachment.
There is a large order from MO, tankers, truck-based.

[FID]

Quote: Bison

There is a large order from MO, tankers, truck-based.

Only intentions, only ... Although, the Ministry of Defense paid for test flights 96103 (the board flies, and behind it, at the refueling range, "refueled" ones fly).

[Krsk]

Quote: cniza

And what is our President flying on now?

silt 96-300pu

[Prapor-527]

Quote: cniza

And what is our President flying on now?

IL-96-300PU

[Civil]

They wrote a couple of days ago that they want to revive the production of IL-96

[NordUral]

Good intentions usually bridge the road to hell. Our power liberals are just such road builders.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: MIKHAN

I don’t argue a good one, but the infa will be released again ... It would be nice!

It seems that they are going to be overhauled: composite parts of the airframe, new avionics, electronics (the crew will be two-member (aircraft commander and co-pilot)) and PD-14 engines.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

(crew will be two-member (aircraft commander and co-pilot))

Two members is certainly good, but three was better!

[Nick]

Quote: cniza

A good plane, it was in vain put into oblivion.

It was decided to resume the release of the upgraded version of IL-96

[avt]

Quote: Nick

It was decided to resume the release of the upgraded version of IL-96

When and by whom ??? Now the adherents of the Superbudget will attack and explain that the 4 motor sucks and there is no demand for it.

Quote: Didn't serve

Aeroflot kind of put it to the fence, like it’s not effective.

And he ordered bobiki.

[Nick]

Quote: avt

Quote: Nick
It was decided to resume the release of the upgraded version of IL-96
When and by whom ??? Now the adherents of the Superbudget will attack and explain that the 4 motor sucks and there is no demand for it.

After the disaster in Egypt, the passenger Il-96 seems to have a second chance. Ilyushin Aviation Complex is considering the possibility of resuming its serial production at VASO.
It is expected that this will be a deep modernization. At one time, IL-96 was recognized as not meeting modern requirements for noise level. And mass production was minimized to 2013. However, during operation, the liner managed to prove itself well. In any case, there were no disasters with his participation.
Now the "silt" is actively used by the squadron of the President of Russia, in addition, the planes are operated by the Cuban airline.
State TV and Radio Company "Voronezh"

[Peterhof 73]

Tell me, colleague, are the engines on the IL-96 ours or Pratt-n-Whitney?

[FID]

Quote: Petergofsky73

Tell me, colleague, are the engines on the IL-96 ours or Pratt-n-Whitney?

PS-90A ...

[opus]

Quote: Petergofsky73

or Pratt-n-Whitney?

If I am not mistaken, PW-2037 was installed only on IL 96-300M (Dismantled at the LII) - for which the pylons were replaced

different from PS-90A

and the option with two engines Pratt & Whitney PW4082 (or NK-33) on the IL-96MD (but it did not seem to be embodied in metal)

[NordUral]

I look and sad at heart. How many hundreds of such sides would sparkle in our and not our skies. Creatures of the nineties!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: NordUral

I look and sad at heart. How many hundreds of such sides would sparkle in our and not our skies.

By this day in the USSR would have been IL-998!

Quote: NordUral

Creatures of the nineties!

They have no differences from the two thousandth creatures, but rather surpass them in cynicism and greed.

[FID]

Quote: opus

If I am not mistaken, PW-2037 was installed only on IL 96-300M (Dismantled at the LII) - for which the pylons were replaced

You are mistaken twice - 96002 is not taken apart and flies by now ...

[Peterhof 73]

Thanks so much for the clarification.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Nick

After the disaster in Egypt, the passenger IL-96 seems to have a second chance.

And how is the country of origin of the plane connected with the attack on board?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: avt

When and by whom ??? Now the adherents of the Superbudget will attack and explain that the 4 motor sucks and there is no demand for it.

So these are completely different planes. Superjet - short-haul (100 people and a maximum range of 3000). And IL - long-range (300-400, with a range of 9000). Not competitors to each other in any way

[Prapor-527]

Quote: Stirbjorn

So these are completely different planes. Superjet - short-haul (100 people and a maximum range of 3000). And IL - long-range (300-400, with a range of 9000). Not competitors to each other in any way

Well, they don’t release a civilian version, and there are no plans ... though sadly.

[opus]

Quote: Prapor-527

Well, they don’t release a civilian version, and there are no plans ... although it’s sad

Yes you?

IL96-400T b№RA-96105, s No. 97693201005

We are a "strange" country:

sorry 96M "threw"

[Prapor-527]

Quote: opus

Quote: Prapor-527

Well, they don’t release a civilian version, and there are no plans ... although it’s sad

Yes you?

IL96-400T b№RA-96105, s No. 97693201005

We are a "strange" country:

sorry 96M "threw"

And on which airlines will work? Cubana

[opus]

Quote: Prapor-527

And on which airlines will work? Cubana

Cubana is the airline. CUBANA de AVIACION
http://www.cubana.cu/home/
http://www.cubana.ru/
She already works:

Country: Cuba
National airline of Cuba
Year of foundation: 1930
IATA Code: CU
ICAO Code: CUB
Official website of the airline: www.cubana.cu
Address: Ave Van Troi Y Final, Aeropuerto Inter Jose Martin, Terminal 1, 10400, Havana, Cuba
Telephone: + 53 7 834 4446
Fax: + 53 7 233 4056
Email: [email protected]
Representative office in Russia: Moscow st. Korovy Val, 7 bld. 1 entrance 3, 11th floor, office 85, Russia
Phone number of the representative office in Russia: [phone]
Fax of the representative office in Russia: [phone]
E-mail representation in Russia: [email protected]
Base airports: Havana Jose Marti
Domestic flights: Varadero, Havana, Cayo Coco, Cayo Largo del Sur, Santiago, Senfuegos
Flights to the CIS countries: Moscow
International flights: Bogota, Buenos Aires, Guatemala City, Cancun, Caracas, London, Madrid, Mexico City, Montreal, Nassau, Paris, Point a Petr, San Jose, Santo Domingo, Toronto, Fort de -France
Fleet: Airbus A320, Antonov An-24, Antonov An-26, Ilyushin Il-96, Tupolev Tu-204-100

Specifically, the Il-96 "works" (replacing the Boeing 767-300) on the lines

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CU-T1251 Paris Orly

[Cook]

And why the data on the replacement of the 767th Ilom, seven years ago?

[opus]

Quote: Cook

And why the data on the replacement of the 767th Ilom, seven years ago?

So then delivered.

It became known that the Cuban state airline Cubana de Aviación, through the Russian leasing company OJSC Ilyushin Finance Co., leased two Il-96-300 wide-body passenger aircraft, decommissioned by Aeroflot Russian Airlines... The aircraft RA-96008 (built in 1993) and RA-96011 (built in 1994) were purchased. The first of them received the Cubana logo on board at the end of August (while retaining a part of Aeroflot's livery with the Russian flag on the keel) and the Cuban registration number CU-T1717.

Aeroflot took advantage of the aggravation of the discussion about the age of aircraft flying in the country that unfolded after the plane crash in Kazan, and raised the issue of withdrawing IL-96 from its fleet (bought Boigi and Airbus)

I wrote:

Quote: opus

We are a "strange" country:

(well, very strange)

Tu-204-100E / CU-T1702

You better ask CUBANA de AVIACION

Quote: opus

http://www.cubana.cu/home/
http://www.cubana.ru/

[avt]

Quote: Stirbjorn

) Not competitors to each other in any way

Your mistake is that you are comparing the characteristics of various types of airplanes, but you need to look at who and through what machine sucked the budget nipple and milked and milked, despite the "success" of the promoted project. Just take and see how much money it has been learned how many machines are in operation, and how many at the LII are brought up to the customer's requirements ", such as" costumed "out of just over 100 already produced, again how many were returned back.

Quote: Samaritan

Let's not forget that Aeroflot is the main buyer of superjets!

Well, what about the "export potential" and "will we tear everyone in the world poverty with a new super airplane?" And what about the joint production with China? True, against the background of the signing by China with Boeing of a contract for 380 airplanes, including competitors in the Superbudget class, and the return of airplanes from Laos and Indonesia, the SCAC is more silent about “seizing the market in the segment”. And that's right - 10 yards LADY threw - you have to chew, not to chants. When they chew and sing the song of a killed deer - negative experience is also experience and money must be given for a new project, so as not to lose the existing team of designers / sawmills.

[Samaritan]

Quote: avt

Yah !?

28.10 handed over to Aeroflot 21 boards! Ie roughly every fifth. The FULL specification differs from the standard new Flight Management System (FMS) and the presence of a weather radar with the function of determining wind shear, as well as the availability of a wireless data transmission system about the operation of aircraft systems and engines. In addition, in this version the number of cameras of the video surveillance system has been increased, separate lighting and air conditioning control has been done in both passenger salons, and an additional flight attendant workstation has been added. In the "FULL" version, the number of buffet-kitchen modules was increased and two stoves were replaced with stoves of increased capacity for heating food.

[FID]

Quote: Samaritan

The FULL specification differs from the standard new Flight Management System (FMS) and the presence of a weather radar with the function of determining wind shear, as well as the availability of a wireless data transmission system about the operation of aircraft systems and engines

Everything that you listed is on ANY TYPE of flying airplanes (in normal a / c). On IL-96 and Tu-204/214 - KSCPNO (a complex of standard digital flight and navigation equipment (my bread, by the way)) and a weather radar with wind shear, were originally from 1989 ...

[Samaritan]

Yes, I know, they write that they updated?! ...

[avt]

Quote: Samaritan

28.10 handed over to Aeroflot 21 boards! Ie roughly every fifth.

Roughly speaking, but to put it mildly - where are the stoves, air conditioners, and toilets! ??? I actually talked about something else

Quote: avt

!? But what about the "export potential" and "will we tear everyone in the world poverty with a new super airplane?"

And the fact that Aeroflot is being sucked in by ANOTHER 4 returned from Laos and Indonesia, I don’t need to tell, nor how they are shoved into the Ministry of Emergencies. And again and again - I DO NOT SAY THAT THE SUPERBUDGET IS COMPLETE .... quite an average airplane ... . average. But he was exhaled from the very outset as a new miracle in aviation, for which, crying and begging him from the GSS, the whole world will stand in line, well, for this new word of passenger aviation in its segment. Actually for the kind of money that they swell and swell into it from the BUDGET, it’s a commercial project in comparison with different non-commercial Tu204 / 214/334 and different An-148/158 and Il-114, it had to fly along a ballistic trajectory with access to a low orbit through the oceans. And what is the bottom line?

Quote: Samaritan

. In the "FULL" version, the number of buffet-kitchen modules was increased and two stoves were replaced with stoves of increased capacity for heating food.

Like in the next tranche for the next 10 yards, the toilet will be expanded! ?? If, at the budgetary expense of the SCA through the bourgeois, they provided us with new technologies, a machine park, the technical staff trained us, then why the hell in a soviet LII in Zhukovsky herd of NEW, straight from the airplane plant on "debugging" is ????

[Samaritan]

Quote: avt

Quote: Samaritan

28.10 handed over to Aeroflot 21 boards! Ie roughly every fifth.

Roughly speaking, but to put it mildly - where are the stoves, air conditioners, and toilets! ??? I actually talked about something else

Quote: avt

!? But what about the "export potential" and "will we tear everyone in the world poverty with a new super airplane?"

And the fact that Aeroflot is being sucked in by ANOTHER 4 returned from Laos and Indonesia, I don’t need to tell, nor how they are shoved into the Ministry of Emergencies. And again and again - I DO NOT SAY THAT THE SUPERBUDGET IS COMPLETE .... quite an average airplane ... . average. But he was exhaled from the very outset as a new miracle in aviation, for which, crying and begging him from the GSS, the whole world will stand in line, well, for this new word of passenger aviation in its segment. Actually for the kind of money that they swell and swell into it from the BUDGET, it’s a commercial project in comparison with different non-commercial Tu204 / 214/334 and different An-148/158 and Il-114, it had to fly along a ballistic trajectory with access to a low orbit through the oceans. And what is the bottom line?

Quote: Samaritan

. In the "FULL" version, the number of buffet-kitchen modules was increased and two stoves were replaced with stoves of increased capacity for heating food.

Like in the next tranche for the next 10 yards, the toilet will be expanded! ?? If, at the budgetary expense of the SCA through the bourgeois, they provided us with new technologies, a machine park, the technical staff trained us, then why the hell in a soviet LII in Zhukovsky herd of NEW, straight from the airplane plant on "debugging" is ????

And you can link who talked about this ???

Quote: avt

Comparison with different non-commercial Tu204 / 214/334 and different An-148/158 and IL-114

And these airplanes with what tact can be produced ???
In short, you are one of those who shouted that all the polymers had gone through ... and now, when you have mastered and done, it’s still g ... maybe tell me how many planes you released ...

[avt]

Quote: Samaritan

And these airplanes with what tact can be produced ???

These planes CANNOT be produced, because there is stupidly no money for the revival of cooperation on Tu-204/214, which turns out to have no commercial interest, Khristenko said for the Tu-334 that there is no money. Tu-204 m is impossible to execute.An-148 was bought on the vine, but also only for the army they finish on VASO, and the passenger is taken out - they cannot substitute import Rogozin is trying to shove his IL-114 through a relative, well, let’s see how he succeeds. Here and all-eh! Takut, not takt, but in the end ... well, add something to the rhyme. Ah! Yes! MS, which Yak is still in the nest ...

Quote: Samaritan

And you can link who talked about this ???

About what??? About the fact that in Zhukovsky there are new planes for "revision" ??? Well, hammer in the search engine and you will find a table - God knows what a secret and it seems that there is a secret on the SCAC website. release of new ones? Well, for the production of 10 cars a year? So the topic was quite sounded in the media after MAKS. Have you heard about the return of cars from Laos and Indonesia?

[Samaritan]

Quote: avt

About what???

About this: shall we tear everyone in the world poverty with a new super airplane? "

Quote: avt

Tu-204

The presence of prospects in the person of MS-21 and 2 crashed Tu-204-100 deprived the Tu-204SM of any chances.
I just don’t understand. What are you offering ???

[FID]

Quote: Samaritan

2 crashed Tu-204-100

Both planes were "dropped" by the crew, what does the car have to do with it? And he deprived the UAC of chances, for the sake of SSJ ...

[avt]

Quote: Samaritan

Presence of perspective in the person of MS-21

The chicken is in the nest, the testicle is in the chicken. ALL THIS HAS ALREADY HEARD EXACTLY ABOUT THE SUPERBUDGET! And about the prospects of capturing a market segment and about super duper innovations, well, in this case, the "elipsoid fuselage" and the "black wing"

Quote: Samaritan

2 crashed Tu-204-100 deprived the Tu-204CM of any chance.

Quote: SSI

Both planes were "dropped" by the crew, what does the car have to do with it? And he deprived the UAC of chances, for the sake of SSJ ...

Quote: Samaritan

I just don’t understand. What are you offering ???

For starters, I suggest that you think about a simple fact, well, if you follow your logic set forth in the quote above - Why, during the disaster in Vnukovo due to the fault of the crew that couldn’t cope with the control in certain weather conditions, the Tu-204 became completely crap, and the disaster, again the fault of the human factor in Indonesia, led to additional budget financing. And then it goes like that on the list.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Stirbjorn

they are completely different planes. Superjet - short-haul (100 people and a maximum range of 3000).

Fuck he was needed if you already have a good plane
Tu-204,204CM.
So no start, damn it, in a series a car with a localization of 25% sawing, sawing and sawing is the motto of the manual.
A wonderful car is not very swift.
The Tu-204 is one of those aircraft that can safely to land with all the engine disconnected.
Read more at: http://avia.pro/blog/tu-204

Where is the Tu-334 now? shozh for the state then for such a pah ....

[Samaritan]

Quote: avt

And ordered bobiki

Let's not forget that Aeroflot is the main buyer of superjets!
And about the IL-96, the SSI explained in great detail, something like this: As always, everything is trite, they buy used for three pennies, a new one is expensive! Unfortunately, the airline’s task is to earn money here and now, whoever doesn’t make long plans, earn and dump, and then even the grass doesn’t grow ...
and the IL 96 airplane is excellent, and if the PD 14 will be delivered at all, only money needs to be poured in a bunch and duties on the old city ... enter
in general, I think everything will be fine !!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Samaritan

and duties on the old city ... enter

By the way! You + 100500 !!!
Those. the state introduced huge duties on the import of used imported vehicles, but on imp.aviakhlam no!
The question is whose interests are lobbying the state?

[KOH]

Well, do not release hundreds of aircraft in a week, do you need to paralyze air transportation or what? ...

[Airborne Major]

Still fly: a decision was made to revive the production of IL-96


Moscow, 06.11.15/20/53 - XNUMX:XNUMX
OJSC Ilyushin Aviation Complex is planning to revive mass production of IL-96 passenger aircraft, Interfax reports citing a statement by the company's general designer Nikolai Talikov.

Ilyushin Aviation Complex OJSC plans to revive mass production of IL-96 passenger aircraft
Currently, the IL-96 is operated in the presidential flight squad, which already says a lot
He noted that a deep modernization of the liner is expected, which at one time was prophesied as the flagship of Soviet and Russian aviation.

Currently, the IL-96 is operated in the presidential flight squad, which already says a lot about it, as well as the Cuban airline, where the airliners managed to put in front of a campaign to buy old Boeing that flared up in our country.

In addition, the plans of the airline complex in the near future to restore, as part of import substitution, the production of the Il-114 passenger plane in Russia. This turbvinotovy plane is intended for local airlines. Serial production was supposed to be placed in Tashkent, but the collapse of the USSR prevented this. A total of 17 cars were built.

The IL-96 is a wide-body long-range aircraft and was produced from 1993 to 2013 at the facilities of Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Manufacturing OJSC. A plane of truly tragic fate costs half the price of a similar Boeing-767, easier and cheaper to maintain. In addition, it is able to land with four idle engines (i.e. all), which Boeing is incapable of in principle.

In addition, Ilyushin plans to develop a new Il-2021 heavy transport aircraft by 2022-106, for which approval of the Russian Ministry of Defense has already been received. According to Talikov, this is a completely new aircraft that can lift up to 100 tons of payload into the air.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: avt

When and by whom ??? Now adherents of the Superbudget will come running and explain that 4 motors suck and there is no demand for it

Europeans stopped manufacturing the A340 in 2011, and the twin-engine A330 is still available in large quantities and orders are being received.
Now there are only four-engine aircraft Boeing 747-8 and A380, in view of the large mass and size to make them twin-engine, if possible, it is very difficult.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Nick

It was decided to resume the release of the upgraded version of IL-96

Sorry for the piece.

[Samaritan]

Handsome!

God grant that they revived IL - 96 !!!

[Buffalo]

And God forbid new Kuznetsov and NK-93 engines on this plane, which, after working out the resource in the GA, can be put on the ekranoplanes of the Moscow Region.

[Juborg]

The plane is good, but somehow I don't believe in these ".... Finance Co.".

[FID]

Quote: juborg

The plane is good, but somehow I don't believe in these ".... Finance Co.".

The only leasing company that BUY about 40 DOMESTIC aircraft and leased them ...

[Cartman]

fuel eats say a lot compared to foreign

[go21zd45few]

Thanks to Pagasyan, Manturov and others, our civil aviation industry has been ditched. Highly qualified specialists dispersed, illiterate in management
the so-called top managers who successfully take budget money.
And after the appointment of Serdyukov, you can forget about the development of civil aircraft construction, this is equivalent to letting the wolf run into a sheep herd.
The development of the domestic aviation industry is thousands of jobs and tax revenues to the treasury. Medvedev’s government is the fifth column mired in corruption and nepotism.

[ASG7]

A beautiful airplane has a wide sky.

[Not served]

Yes, no one let him into oblivion. On its base, tankers began to make. Let's see what happens to the civilians. There was a program about pilots who turned to VVP with a letter stating that the plane is essentially being "killed" on purpose. Aeroflot seems to have put it on the fence, like not effective.

[2s1122]

This type of Aeroflot Boeing gets more kickbacks when buying them

[Mercury]

What did they stuff it with? Probably it is not visible and not heard, so during the tests it circled around the Pentagon a couple of times and touched the white house with its wing (that’s why the forests around the dome)

[amba balamut 77]

And only soft landings.

[fregina1]

probably air defense can be! Traps for sure ...

[ydjin]

It's time to restore the production of IL-96, and it is desirable to modernize to the maximum! For our conditions, it is the best suited than bass and beans!

[Mihalich17]

The president trusts this plane! The FSB also trusts!
And we fly, while I hope, in Boeing ... But in 1993, I flew IL-86 from Moscow to Yekaterinburg once! Beauty was power !!!
I still remember my feelings of flying and pride in the country!

[g1v2]

Government agencies need reliability and that the plane was domestic, that’s what they are buying. Commercial carriers need to eat little and transport more people, but there are problems with this. Comrades gave a comparison of the gluttony of IL96, Boeing and watermelon. Those are cheaper, which means if our companies switch to il96, then ticket prices will have to be raised - so they will fly less. However, now there is a lot of talk about deep modernization of the il96 to make it more economical, about new engines. By the way, I wanted to ask Ss about the possibility of installing new PD14s that they are now experiencing. If the plane becomes more economical, it is quite possible that the airlines will force it to buy. There Aeroflot has already ordered 50 superjets (21 of them are already flying) and 50 ms21, which are still missing. I think that it is not of my own free will. If IL96 becomes comparable in costs to Boeing and watermelons, then most likely Aeroflot will be obliged to take it. Moreover, the transaero, which did not favor domestic aircraft, was buried and Aeroflot will most likely take its market share.

[BMW]

Quote: g1v2

If IL96 becomes comparable in costs to Boeing and watermelons, then most likely Aeroflot will be obliged to take it.

I do not understand the expense. IL-96 4 PS-90A. Tu-204 PS-90A and A2. The cost of Tu corresponds to Western. According to Ilu, more Boeings take passengers (except 747). Dviguny PS-90A meet all ICAO requirements. Explain where the catch is, or is it lobbyism.
He flew the Il-96 in 2007 with Domodedovo Airlines and Krasair. I have not seen a more comfortable interior.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: bmw

He flew the Il-96 in 2007 with Domodedovo Airlines and Krasair. I have not seen a more comfortable interior.

I subscribe to every word!

[ydjin]

I flew the same in 92, Moscow-Sakhalin, through the Arctic Circle, with landing I don’t remember Norilsk or Vorkuta? Impression, from Moscow in early May landed on an almost polar night with snowdrifts and then home to Sakhalin with the trees just starting to bloom! And as the 86th went along the route, the song! Neither pits nor pitching. Oh, DMB-92!

[amba balamut 77]

Maybe nastalgia for the 62nd does not let go. But when you fly from Moscow to Ilyushka it is somehow calmer than on a foreign pepelats. Although it may be prejudice.

[2s1122]

maybe prejudices, but only the Russian Federation exploited IL, but sometimes Boeing gets through 10 countries to us.

[gloomy fox]

But it’s a wonderful airplane, which prevents it from being released in the Garzhdansok version. On x these feeds of fagot feed only. The FSB did not in vain take it for themselves and not the 15-year-old Boeing. Successful take-off and landing!

[Massik]

Only one name of this company made me feel bad. Why let us torment the English for the state?

[lelikas]

Quote: Marssik

Only one name of this company made me feel bad. Why let us torment the English for the state?

Ilyushin Moshn i Vataga! Well, that sounds!

[Massik]

Quote: lelikas

Ilyushin Moshn i Vataga! Well, that sounds!

Ilyushin just sounds much better.

[Aksakal_07]

It was not enough to call the AKM "an automatic rifle from Kalashnikoff Corp. limited".

[kunstkammer]

with a luxury lounge

is it to have fun with the girls? Are there any saunas there? Or only in the army it is necessary to "endure the hardships" of military service. Here "hardships" are only pleasant.

[Cook]

Quote: ydjin

It's time to restore the production of IL-96, and it is desirable to modernize to the maximum! For our conditions, it is the best suited than bass and beans!

And what exactly is this aircraft better suited to our conditions, you can find out?

[ydjin]

At least by reliability, I'm certainly not an expert in aviation, but usually our technical regulations have always been tougher than western ones. No wonder now the GOST abbreviation is with me and I hope many of my peers and the older generation have always been a symbol of QUALITY!

[33 Watcher]

Can. With IL-96, for the entire time of operation, not a single flight accident.

[emercom1979]

IL-96 behaves steadily in the air, not like "PAZik with wings (my friends call it the airbus) when I happened to fly in the Ilyushin Design Bureau, the air pockets were felt only during takeoff and landing. And the airbus and Boeings were shaking like PAZ on a primer.)))

[Cook]

Do you seriously believe that the plane shakes or does not shake in flight, depending on its manufacturer? Or maybe you recommend airlines to buy planes based on your feelings?

[ydjin]

Quote: Cook

Do you seriously believe that the plane shakes or does not shake in flight, depending on its manufacturer? Or maybe you recommend airlines to buy planes based on your feelings?

Sorry stupid question, on your part. Of course for 86, 96 its dimensions play! I hope you will not deny that a feather is easier to blow away than a brick? And in the rest, do you want to breed with ... what? So I'm not going to

[33 Watcher]

That is what he wants to say, and will be absolutely right. Shakes, does not shake ... This is called flight performance, which in turn consists of the aerodynamics of a particular machine. Ilya fly very well, they are very reliable. And starting with IL-76, all Ilyushin’s cars are masterpieces, each of its kind. And passenger cars were leaked, 86, 96, for one simple reason, freed up markets for Western friends, well, then we were very friends with them.

[Cook]

What does aerodynamics have to do with it, and what specific characteristics affect this? I will understand more if the conversation goes about weight and dimensions. So in this case, the Jambo Jet is out of competition. Well leaked then, and now why not return to them? Once such masterpieces?

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Cook

Do you seriously believe that the plane shakes or does not shake in flight, depending on its manufacturer? Or maybe you recommend airlines to buy planes based on your feelings?

I seriously believe shakes or does not shake depends on the stiffness of the wing of one or another manufacturer.

[Cook]

And which is better, less rigid or more rigid, to increase the profitability of transportation?

[chester9]

ha-ha, and here is a competitor of the TU firm))) they already have a state order for special vehicles such as a communication machine, a control center, an open sky ... and it has already been duplicated, if not in three copies each ... so now on the silts are the grandmother washed doing the same? and the carcasses were made on the basis of the Tu-214 ... or they didn't like it ... as usual in our country: let's do it, but if we don't like it, we'll do it at another plant, and we'll write it off as scrap metal))) Complete nonsense. in September I flew from Moscow to Simferopl, so the government board did the transportation (well, so the aviation company "Russia" with a tricolor in 2 sides, it is a government one, they are shabbat))) there is not enough for champagne) Enough to produce airplanes for yourself, they took away from you foreign cars so you decided to win back on aviation? Give better to people for transportation. And then we pay Boeing and Airbuses for the exploitation of crazy money. For these funds, they would have established their own long ago, but no, kickbacks are more important in your pocket !! Ugh!!!

[chester9]

Quote: Cook

Do you seriously believe that the plane shakes or does not shake in flight, depending on its manufacturer? Or maybe you recommend airlines to buy planes based on your feelings?

believe me, the wing area of ​​Il exceeds the wing area of ​​a commensurate Boeing or an air bass ... and accordingly it will have fewer failures

[chester9]

Quote: ydjin

At least by reliability, I'm certainly not an expert in aviation, but usually our technical regulations have always been tougher than western ones. No wonder now the GOST abbreviation is with me and I hope many of my peers and the older generation have always been a symbol of QUALITY!

Yes, our aircraft has a higher safety margin than imported ones ... if I am not mistaken, 7-fold for civil aviation, 10-fold for military)

[FID]

Quote: chester9

Yes, our aircraft has a higher safety margin than imported ones ... if I am not mistaken, 7-fold for civil aviation, 10-fold for military)

You are mistaken, the safety factor adopted back in the USSR is 2,4, i.e. almost two and a half times the strength of the product should exceed the strength of the components, this is expressed in an increase in the cross-sections of the component parts (I painted this as a former teacher of sopromat, I taught at MADI).

[chester9]

Quote: emercom1979

IL-96 behaves steadily in the air, not like "PAZik with wings (my friends call it the airbus) when I happened to fly in the Ilyushin Design Bureau, the air pockets were felt only during takeoff and landing. And the airbus and Boeings were shaking like PAZ on a primer.)))

Well, the flight conditions are not always the same ... but you are definitely right, the sausage will be less with the same parameters

[F.Vastag]

Why can’t such KRASAVETS like IL-96-400 (both in Passenger and Cargo (for the Ministry of Defense) and in VIP Option - for the presidential air regiment) - DELIVER to STREAM (Launch to the Mass Series (start collecting in the same Volume as and under the Union (the same IL-86).) After all, how do we need Our Domestic Long-Range Airplane (on domestic flights (Moscow-Vladivostok) and International (Moscow-Havana) Airlines. Why the State does not order Its Full Long-haul , or it’s easier to buy a BU for Bugr (having received Kickbacks) and completely depend (on Components, Engines) on the States (Boeing) and Europe (Airbuses). Are there really no State-minded People (in the Aircraft Industry and Aircraft Industry of Russia).

[ydjin]

Quote: F. Vastag

Why can’t such KRASAVETS like IL-96-400 (both in Passenger and Cargo (for the Ministry of Defense) and in VIP Option - for the presidential air regiment) - DELIVER to STREAM (Launch to the Mass Series (start collecting in the same Volume as and under the Union (the same IL-86).) After all, how do we need Our Domestic Long-Range Airplane (on domestic flights (Moscow-Vladivostok) and International (Moscow-Havana) Airlines. Why the State does not order Its Full Long-haul , or it’s easier to buy a BU for Bugr (having received Kickbacks) and completely depend (on Components, Engines) on the States (Boeing) and Europe (Airbuses). Are there really no State-minded People (in the Aircraft Industry and Aircraft Industry of Russia).

I completely agree with you! But what’s the catch I don’t understand ?!

[BMW]

Quote: ydjin

But what’s the catch I don’t understand ?!

Steal from.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: ydjin

But what’s the catch I don’t understand ?!

write Moscow-Kremlin ....

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: F. Vastag

Is there really no State-Mindful People (in the Aircraft Industry and Aircraft Industry of Russia) at all.

Not left.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: F. Vastag

Is there really no State-Mindful People (in the Aircraft Industry and Aircraft Industry of Russia) at all.

Not left.

[chester9]

Quote: Cook

Quote: ydjin

It's time to restore the production of IL-96, and it is desirable to modernize to the maximum! For our conditions, it is the best suited than bass and beans!

And what exactly is this aircraft better suited to our conditions, you can find out?

Well, then see my comments below ... but in general it is even better that, without yielding and exceeding flight characteristics, our people will work in production plants and our people will receive money, and not the moneybags from over the hill. You are generally aware that when servicing imported equipment, there should be special training, it is theirs, the cat is worth big bucks! Our experienced engineer is a jerk in their eyes and when working on that technician will receive a penny, and their "birdie" coming to our country will stick his fingers with a fan and get a sickly salary, and at the same time he will not get dirty even in a drop of oil ...

[Valkh]

What handsome?!? God forbid revive production !!!

[Taranchello]

He flew this miracle in Thailand in 2009, esno Aeroflot. I can say that the plane is really excellent, it goes very smoothly in the air, it does not talk, does not throw it. Compared to bean 747, ours is much more comfortable, except that there are no televisions there, but it’s a matter of configuration, I think you don’t need to put a lot of TV in the seats, but according to the flight sensations, it will give odds to many, if not all. And in the cabin you can really play basketball

[Samaritan]

I flew to Ty 747 ... it seems normal, but two extreme times on watermelons is just awful, my wife does not want to fly anymore ...

[SSeT]

The only time I flew IL-86, at first I scored - the old one, that’s not new, the more I grabbed the otitis in charm - as a result, dozed peacefully, did not take off, didn’t even notice landing, flies powerfully, doesn’t shake, like in a buz, for example. Woke up when they started to applaud. Old school, what, verified plane, reliable!

[chester9]

Quote: 2s1122

maybe prejudices, but only the Russian Federation exploited IL, but sometimes Boeing gets through 10 countries to us.

As it was, it was somehow forbidden to fly over a hill due to the high noise level of engine operation ... they have airports in cities (there are few places) and we have outside the city ... and the amendment is not only in the Russian Federation, but also in the USSR

[BMW]

Quote: chester9

IL was somehow forbidden for flying over a hill due to the high noise level of engine operation.

Lazha.
The IL-96 engines PS-90A, meet all the requirements of ICAO, questionable fuel efficiency.
Due to the noise, they covered IL-86.

[FID]

Quote: bmw

questionable fuel efficiency.

And this is "crap" ... Fuel efficiency is normal, there were gags with the maintenance of four, not two engines ... About fuel efficiency - a classmate (in terms of passengers and range) A-330 has two engines with a thrust of 34 tons, in total - 64 tons, the Il-96 has 4 engines of 16 tons, total - 64 tons ... So it turns out that they are the same in terms of fuel.

[Trigger-Happy]

It was the 86th that was banned, it just took off because of weak engines, and the 96th were already installed by Perm engines, good and foreign, and the company that made them was bought and bankrupt in due time. If there are Permyaks on the site, comment on how things are now .....

[chester9]

Quote: F. Vastag

Why can’t such KRASAVETS like IL-96-400 (both in Passenger and Cargo (for the Ministry of Defense) and in VIP Option - for the presidential air regiment) - DELIVER to STREAM (Launch to the Mass Series (start collecting in the same Volume as and under the Union (the same IL-86).) After all, how do we need Our Domestic Long-Range Airplane (on domestic flights (Moscow-Vladivostok) and International (Moscow-Havana) Airlines. Why the State does not order Its Full Long-haul , or it’s easier to buy a BU for Bugr (having received Kickbacks) and completely depend (on Components, Engines) on the States (Boeing) and Europe (Airbuses). Are there really no State-minded People (in the Aircraft Industry and Aircraft Industry of Russia).

think correctly))) I fully support) ... and in the VIP version they already have everything, you don’t worry))

[Redman]

IL 96-300 (Yelizovo, Kamchatka). Ilyushinsky aircraft - the most reliable in the world! There were and are.

[BMW]

Quote: Redman

IL 96-300 (Yelizovo, Kamchatka). Ilyushinsky aircraft - the most reliable in the world! There were and are.

Greetings fellow countryman!
It is said very correctly.

[Trigger-Happy]

I will answer right away to everyone in whose minds there was hope. Where-where and at the Voronezh VASO, they won’t start producing anything like this in series, because experienced specialists aren’t massively working there. Aviation College does not train specialists for production. You can say and solve anything, only any technologically complex task requires trained and competent personnel, which, unfortunately, has been lost for years!

[Buffalo]

You do not know - do not talk rubbish!
At VASO - 9500 people, approximately, work. Do you think they are all fools? There are training programs, money has been allocated for workers and students of VSTU. There is ALREADY an order for 16 cars. Production has long been debugged.

[Trigger-Happy]

Well, if everything has changed for the better, then I'm only glad about it. Of course, I don’t have the latest data, for the sake of this I’ll find out how things are now, there are friends there, a cat. By the way, they said that. 25 worked in the aviation union, of course they did a lot of non-core activities there. Apparently you yourself consider your fools your colleagues - these are your words, and I spoke about experienced specialists who went to the 000s. You can teach anyone who is literate and willing, but they must be taught by an experienced person and share their experience, but where do they get indignant if they built several cars from scratch in 90 years?

[ydjin]

Here’s another 2 kopecks I’ll add to the topic, the Airbus of our Sakhalin air campaign Aurora (former CAT), which was carrying out their flight from Khabarovsk to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky after take-off, was forced to return back to Khabarovsk because of the cracked windshield of the cockpit! What kind of firewood fly with us?

[Mama_Cholli]

I saw on TV a test pilot and a hero of Russia (according to my TVC about the crashed / shot down Boeing), his name, unfortunately, I don't remember, said about our planes that they are heavier, and not as economical as foreign ones, but much more reliable, since the design there were higher demands. At least for operation at airfields from -50 to +50. Foreign planes, he said, "freeze" (various units) in such conditions.

[Cook]

You know I won’t believe it, because I have a flight engineer flight of 9000 hours. The last type that I mastered was the B747-200 / -300. Wing area, compare for yourself: Il96-300 Skr = 361m2 / Take-off weight 250t; A330 Skr = 361m2 / Take-off weight 242t; V777 Skr = 427m2 / Vl.s. weight 299t; V767 Skr283m2 / Vzl weight 186t. No safety tales are needed either. Take and compare our AP25 (Airworthiness Standards of transport category aircraft) with the American FAR25 or European CS25, they have long been harmonized with themselves, and even the paragraph numbers converge. In the airline where I worked, in the Technical Department, 1700 people worked for aircraft maintenance, Russians trained according to international standards, not infringed on by anyone and proud of what they were doing. No one argues that they need their own aircraft-building industry, but it is unfair to explain the lack of interest in domestic aircraft by airlines for betrayal or kickbacks. Explain to me why, after stopping and resuming flights on Il96, the GDP continued to fly on them without problems, and at the same time allowed Aeroflot, the national type of carrier, to put them at the fence?

[FID]

Quote: Cook

put them at the fence?

Two already Kuban de Aviation took away, the third is going to pick up ... They burned one in the AFL, only 2 stand at the fence, but the question is correct ...

[Buffalo]

Quote: Cook

No safety tales are needed either. Take and compare our AP25 (Airworthiness Standards for Transport Aircraft) with US FAR25 or European CS25

Are you a designer? IL-86 and IL-96 were designed, even according to Soviet standards of strength, and Soviet standards are tougher than American ones.

[Cook]

Can you confirm this with documents in hand?

[Cook]

Here is the history of the issue:
Aircraft airworthiness standards. The first edition of the "USSR Civil Aircraft Airworthiness Standards" (NLGS) was put into effect in 1967. They were based on ICAO requirements, generalized scientific research and practical development of civil aviation equipment in the mid-60s, as well as the experience of its testing and exploitation. Later, after making five changes to them, NLGS became known as NLGS-1 (1972).
The second edition of the "USSR Civil Aircraft Airworthiness Standards" (NLGS-2) was introduced in 1974. NLGS-2 corresponded to the levels of the US (FAR) and Great Britain (BCAR) standards of that period. In the period 1975 ... 80. these Standards were introduced into the practice of industry and civil aviation and played an important role in the creation, certification and operation of new generation aircraft Il-86, Yak-42, An-28 and L-410, increasing the level of flight safety, as well as in the accumulation of domestic experience in practical application of airworthiness requirements.

[Trigger-Happy]

Quote: Cook

but to explain the lack of interest in airlines for domestic aircraft by betrayal or kickbacks is unfair

Well, explain, in your opinion, why our airlines are not interested in the domestic aviation industry?

[Cook]

Of course I will answer you. Firstly, I am the same patriot of my Country as the majority of visitors to this site, and I love and am proud of domestic aviation no less than yours. But, unlike most of the interlocutors, I work for a commercial airline and I had the opportunity to operate both domestic and foreign aviation equipment, so to speak, I had the opportunity to compare. You can argue, of course, to infinity, but please be patient and calmly sort my arguments. Let's start with the engines. I must say, unfortunately, but in terms of fuel efficiency, our planes and engines are inferior, not catastrophically of course, but inferior to the western ones. Here, the reputable SSI provided data on engine thrust, it can be seen that for IL and Airbus the total engine thrust is 64 tons and 68 tons, respectively, if roughly necessary for safe takeoff, the thrust will be 15% of take-off weight, respectively 37,5 tons for IL and 36,3 tons for the Airbus. Accordingly, the underutilized thrust reserve per engine will be 6.5 tons for Il and almost 32 tons for Airbus. I know from my own experience that the declared thrust on our engines is provided at an ambient temperature of + 20'C and below. If higher, then the cut begins and traction sags. Therefore, our aircraft usually take off at full thrust. The adversary, with such a crazy reserve of traction, uses Derate, that is, takes off at a reduced mode, and quite significantly saves resource, fuel and everything else. And Western engines retain the declared thrust up to + 34'C. Such an almost twofold reserve of thrust is needed to ensure safe take-off continuation in the event of a single engine failure. Naturally, before takeoff, calculations are carried out to determine the required thrust, and in case of engine failure, the working one is displayed at full thrust. Now compare the performance characteristics of these aircraft, and think about which airplane the carrier would prefer, even if all else being equal, the first has four engines, and not two, while more loaded, with less resource, with less time between failures. With the need to more often undergo maintenance, with a chronic lack of spare parts and the inability to rent a replacement engine, in case of failure or damage. As a carrier, with such unpredictability, make a schedule and maintain it? Moreover, without raising the price of tickets, because there is real competition in this market. Understand, finally, that the carrier chooses an airplane suitable for his business model, not for its beauty or for the delightful sound from running engines, but for the combination of qualities that allow for a normal transportation economy and flight safety. Air transportation is accompanied by very high overhead costs, you decide for yourself to complete the flight, you have to pay: for kerosene, ground handling of aircraft, maintenance of aircraft, maintenance and inspection of passengers, for take-off and landing, for air navigation services, for catering, salary for the crew. At the same time, costs must be included in the cost of the flight hour: for sewing crew uniforms, leasing payments, possible risks of damage or downtime, expenses for labor-intensive maintenance, staff training, flight safety, and much more for that. Significant working capital is needed, and any even small cost reduction is of great importance. The airplane itself cannot be considered a successful commercial project until a system has been built for its profitable and safe operation. And here we, sadly, are still great behind the west.

[Trigger-Happy]

Well, actually I have similar conclusions and were made, without such details, of course. The answer is interesting, not too lazy to write such a text, thanks. It is clear that under the current conditions, our manufacturers simply will not be able to compete with the same Airbus. Although Aeroflot buys superjets and not only him, I don’t think that to my own detriment.

[Governor]

An empty talk about the restoration of production. In modern Russia, this is impossible! Everything is poher ... So we will interrupt foreign goods in all areas. Very sad, but it is a fact.
No need to build illusions.

[Buffalo]

Quote: Governor

In modern Russia, this is impossible! Everything is fucked up ...

It feels like you've never been to VASO.
Grind rubbish. If there is no way to visit it, go to the VASO website, look at least photos, and read the news. Otherwise, the impression is that you write with a drunk.

[roskot]

It is necessary to revive your civilian fleet. And for this it is necessary that the state is engaged. In the meantime, they consider only taxes on airline profits, this problem will not budge.

[Knight Rider]

Here is the RA-96104 board transferred to the FSB. And behind it is the newly-built and already transferred to LIS Il-96-300 RA-96022

[TOR2]

Quote: KnightRider

It is necessary to revive your civilian fleet

This is true, the vastness of the country obliges this. And only ILs, but also TU too. For example, the upgraded Tu-144 would be very suitable for operation on the Moscow - Vladivostok line.

[ser-pov]

Quote: F. Vastag

Why can’t such KRASAVETS like IL-96-400 (both in Passenger and Cargo (for the Ministry of Defense) and in VIP Option - for the presidential air regiment) - DELIVER to STREAM (Launch to the Mass Series (start collecting in the same Volume as and under the Union (the same IL-86).) After all, how do we need Our Domestic Long-Range Airplane (on domestic flights (Moscow-Vladivostok) and International (Moscow-Havana) Airlines. Why the State does not order Its Full Long-haul , or it’s easier to buy a BU for Bugr (having received Kickbacks) and completely depend (on Components, Engines) on the States (Boeing) and Europe (Airbuses). Are there really no State-minded People (in the Aircraft Industry and Aircraft Industry of Russia).

Because, there were only hucksters, and not people rooting for Russia with their souls ...

[Cook]

Sick people do not have that kind of money to launch production, set up airplanes and then pay extra to passengers so that they fly on them. This was only during the USSR.

[Buffalo]

And airline employees, in your opinion, they, in principle, cannot be patriots? Or admit this, as an exception. So, besides this, they still consider the cost of buying fuel. And here our planes often lose to foreign ones. Design Bureau of engine builders traditionally worked mainly on the defense industry. And the army of the USSR, never considered kerosene costs. And for GA, too, gluttonous engines were made.
And since then, fuel has become very expensive ...

[Cook]

You do not read my posts or what? Isn't that what I'm writing about?

[Cook]

And yet, of course you may not believe me, but here is an excerpt from an interview with the CEO of "RedWings". You can read the full version on the internet. Perhaps reading it will help you figure out why airlines do not really want to get involved with the domestic aviation industry.

"... Red Wings is in the state of a supplicant for the UAC. Tu-204 is an aircraft created for the 27st century, and it has everything to operate safely and efficiently. But the characteristics of the aircraft are artificially deteriorated by people in the Tupolev Design Bureau. These people make it I have a wealth of experience working with Western aircraft manufacturers Airbus and Boeing. Both companies hold large conferences two or three times a year to discuss the topic of aircraft operation. At them the operators are asked what needs to be done in order to to make the plane better. For this we are also paid. In Russia the situation is absolutely opposite. We send to the design bureau our recommendations on how to make the aircraft effective, and to do it not constructively, but to change the package of documents. We are told: pay money. I have already paid money by buying this plane, and you must say thank you to me for knowing how to make the plane effective. I lose 134 thousand rubles on each flight to Hurghada only because of the fact that the design bureau applied to the aircraft of the XXI century the technical regulations of transit service, which were used on the Tu-11. Nobody has it, but we have it. We still have to drain liquid from the toilet into the category of maintenance, and, accordingly, in an off-base airport, I must have engineers who will do this. The same goes for operating, loading and everything else. The situation with spare parts is generally disastrous. XNUMX months ago I placed an order to buy windshields. Until now, the order has not been fulfilled. The brake pad situation is generally ludicrous. The brake pads do not work even a third of the designated resource, and they are not on the market. There is no alternative supplier of spare parts and assemblies. Every day I am bothered by different "spider bugs" that call and offer the same units, but only for cash. We do not buy anything for cash, as we have clean, transparent accounting. The artificial deficit, I am sure, is created by the people who work at these enterprises. Unfortunately, we and KB speak different languages. If you look at the structure of Boeing Civil Aircraft, you will see in the top management five to ten people who used to work in air transport. They headed both the technical departments and the airlines themselves. They understand what operators need. Only the presence of such a whip as free access to the Western aircraft market will force the Design Bureau and the UAC to turn in front of us.

- Maybe the problem is in the Tu-204 itself?

[Cook]

“I'm in love with this plane, even though Boeing has been flying all my life.” As a manager, I have a drive, since before me no one could operate these aircraft cost-effectively, but we can. Tu-204 can be operated efficiently, some of them fly 370 hours a month. It is only necessary to change documents. Western design bureaus receive money from flying planes, ours - including from idle ones. It is beneficial to them that the planes are idle. But once patience will burst, and we will abandon such aircraft. Here is another example. We ordered new Tu-204-100B aircraft with an increased take-off weight of up to 105 tons to obtain certain advantages in loading. What do you think? They were made to us, but the mass of an empty aircraft was increased by 2 tons. To our question “why?” There is only one answer - "experimented." We got a plane 2 tons heavier that carries the same amount of cargo and passengers. Unfortunately, they put heavier seats on it, and we did not get any savings in terms of load. In the cockpit that we made on the Tu-204-100B, there is an amazing navigation system that allows you to automatically enter through inaccurate systems. But this system is not certified, because the KB does not want to do this.

[Cook]

- Not a single parameter ordered planes do not meet the technical specifications. We take these planes with the hope that people in the design bureau will someday wake up market consciousness. Having sent the technical task for aircraft maintenance, in response we received a letter requesting to send spare parts and filters for maintenance. Just think about it: the manufacturing plant asks me, the operator, to buy filters on my own. The supply of spare parts has turned into a criminal business from which someone is feeding. We can buy other pads, but they are uncertified.

In Tupolev Design Bureau there is not a single businessman and not a single person who has ever worked for an airline. I also worked very closely with the management of Boeing and Airbus, so I can say: in the divisions in which they are directly involved in aircraft construction, after-sales service, and marketing, most of the people worked in airlines. They know the needs of carriers.

[NordUral]

What a bastard ruined this great plane!

[Cook]

And you know that the most unpleasant thing is that in our aviation authorities, there are also very few people actually engaged in the operation of aircraft in airlines, and who know the problems of carriers when working in modern conditions. There are many experienced people, but they either came from the same aviation industry or their experience is related to the operation of aircraft during the USSR.

[Aleksandr1959]

An interview with Heinrich Novozhilov, who turned 26 on October 2015, 90. The legendary man, the last of the Mohicans, an outstanding aircraft designer, twice Hero of Socialist Labor, Lenin Prize laureate - Genrikh Novozhilov, together with Sergey Ilyushin, he lifted IL-18, IL-62 aircraft into the sky. Then, under his leadership, such aircraft as Il-76, Il-86, Il-96-300, and Il-114 were created. And today, despite his age, he continues to work at OJSC S.V. Ilyushin, doing everything possible so that the aviation status of Russia remains high not only in words.

http://yuriyko.livejournal.com/2585769.html
Very interesting ratings are given. This interview is worth reading.