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Three roads of the Soviet Bolshevik press (1921-1953)

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The publication in the VO of the article by A. Volodin and the controversy that followed it on the pages of the site once again show that the citizens of Russia are fed up with myths, both “right” and “left”, that история Fatherland is very important for them, as well as those sources on which the historian can rely, studying it. And it turned out that just my graduate student S. Timoshina was working on the topic of informing Soviet citizens about life abroad and, while working on her dissertation, I looked through almost all of our regional and national newspapers from 1921 to 1953 a year. Well, and I read them with her, naturally, and I did. And we decided to introduce VO readers with the results of the just completed study. At the same time, we did not give page-by-page links to articles in newspapers, since this takes a lot of space. But I will emphasize once again, the links are almost for every word, number and fact. After all, this material is, in fact, a “piece of dissertation”. And this is what the analysis of newspaper materials undertaken by the authors showed: instead of one information flow hitting one target, there were three of them, and they diverged in different directions and contradicted each other! The consequences of such an information policy turned out to be sad and make us think about a lot.




“On the first road to go - to be married;
On the second road to go - to be rich;
On the third road to go - to be killed! "
/Russian folktale/


"Road number XXUMX:" You are my dear, world revolution! "

To begin with, the 1921-1927 period could well be called the time of maximum democratization and freedom of speech of the Soviet press. So, in the central press and in regional editions detailed news were published about the famine in the Volga region. It was reported which states and public organizations of foreign states help the starving. That in the Samara region all gophers are eaten and people eat up cats and dogs, and hungry children abandoned by their parents wander the streets in search of a piece of bread, workers live in appalling conditions, and “employees of universities and scientific institutions - professors, teachers and technical employees stand on their wages at the very last place. " It was reported about the frequent manifestations of "labor desertion" for which, for example, in Penza was punished by imprisonment in a concentration camp (!) For a period of one to four months.

However, with regard to informing Soviet citizens about life abroad, an example of the leadership of the Soviet press of those years can serve as a secret circular signed by Secretary of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) V. Molotov from October 9 1923, where an assessment was made of the events that took place at that time Germany: “At the present time it has become absolutely clear that the proletarian coup in Germany is not only inevitable, but already completely close - has moved very close ... The conquest of fascism by broad sections of the petty bourgeoisie is extremely hampered by the correct tactics of Ge Romanian Communist Party. ... For Soviet Germany, an alliance with us, which is very popular among the broad masses of the German people, will be the only chance for salvation. On the other hand, only Soviet Germany is able to provide an opportunity for the USSR to resist the onslaught of international fascism and to speedily resolve the economic problems we face. This determines our position in relation to the German revolution. "

Further, the document gave detailed instructions regulating the activities of local party bodies in the process of informing the public about events in Germany: “The Central Committee considers it necessary: ​​1. To focus the attention of the broadest workers and peasant masses on the German revolution. 2. In advance to expose the intrigues of our external and internal enemies, linking the defeat of revolutionary Germany with the new military campaign against the workers and peasants of the Soviet republics, with the complete defeat and dismemberment of our country. 3. To consolidate in the minds of every worker, peasant and Red Army man the unshakable confidence that the war that foreign imperialists are preparing to impose on us and, above all, the ruling classes of Poland, will be a defensive war for the preservation of land in the hands of the peasants, factories in the hands of the workers, for the very existence worker-peasant government.

Agitprop company in connection with the international situation should be conducted widely and systematically. For this purpose, the Central Committee offers you: 1. Put on the agenda of all party meetings (general, district, cells, etc.) the issue of the international situation, highlighting every stage and turn in the events that are now at the center of international life ... 5. To take all measures for wide coverage of the issue in the press, guided by the articles printed in Pravda and sent from the Press Bureau of TS.K. 6. To organize rallies at enterprises in order to lighten the present international situation with the utmost masses of the working class and to call the proletariat to be vigilant. Use delegate meetings of female workers. 7. Special attention should be paid to the coverage of the international situation among the masses of the peasantry. Broad peasant meetings about the German revolution and the threatening war everywhere must be preceded by meetings of party cells, where they exist. 8. The speakers ... very carefully instruct in the spirit of the general party line outlined by the last party meeting and the instructions of this circular. In our propaganda ... we cannot appeal only to internationalist feelings. We must appeal to the vital economic and political interests ... "

To maintain the confidence of Soviet citizens in the imminent development of the world revolution, newspapers regularly published articles about the growth of the labor movement both in England and in France, and even in the United States, although it was at this time that the period of “prosperity” began - i.e. "Prosperity"!

In the 1925 year at the XIV Congress of the RCP (b), in his report, Stalin was forced to recognize the stabilization of the political and economic situation in capitalist states and even spoke of the "period of ebb of revolutionary waves." However, in the same speech, he declared "the instability and internal weakness of the current stabilization of European capitalism." At the XV Congress of the CPSU (b), he noted the growth of the economy of capitalist countries, but in spite of the facts and figures he cited, he said that "there are some countries that do not go, but leap forward, leaving behind the prewar level," and insisted that “The stabilization of capitalism from this cannot become durable,” and the newspapers immediately picked it up!

The dangerous consequences of such a distorted coverage of events abroad was already realized in those years. So, G.V. Chicherin, who served as Commissar for Foreign Affairs, wrote a letter to Stalin in June 1929 of the year that similar trends in the coverage of foreign events in Soviet newspapers were “outrageous nonsense.” At the same time, he added that the false information from China led to the mistakes of 1927 of the year, and the false information from Germany "will bring incomparably more harm."

Publications about life in the country were still fairly objective in nature, the main thing was to conduct a “party work”. “First of all, we rebuilt the party work,” the reporters of the Beacon of the Revolution factory reported on the pages of Rabochaya Penza newspaper, “since there was no owner on the car, the party organizer of the brigade was the party organizer. Troshin Egor. We reelected the partorga because the networker, in our opinion, should be one of the corners of the triangle on the car. ” To understand what is at stake is absolutely impossible, except that the party work at the enterprise was! But what is strange is that, according to Pravda, the increase in unemployment abroad was caused by nothing more than rationalization of production — that is, thus, to which she herself called on the workers of her own country!

Pravda did not write anything about the 1932 famine of the year, but it reported famine in capitalist countries under headings that spoke for themselves: “Hungry England”, “President of Hunger - on the Tribune”. According to reports of the Soviet press, things were no better in the USA or the USA, where "hunger is stifling and mass unrest is growing by leaps and bounds: a hungry campaign against Washington threatens to exceed the size and determination of a veteran's campaign." The picture of life in foreign countries was so bleak that, judging from the newspaper headlines of those years, the consequences of the economic crisis were everywhere and literally everywhere were the speeches of the working people dissatisfied with their plight.

That is, the world revolution was so clearly on the threshold that it was not surprising why Makar Nagulnov in M. Raised Tselinus, M. Sholokhov, began to study English. He felt from the tone of the Soviet newspapers that it would not start today or tomorrow, and that was when his knowledge would come in handy! After all, "in Soviet Ukraine - a rich harvest, and in Western Ukraine - extreme crop failure" - that is, even nature was "for us"!
When the 18th Congress of the CPSU (b) took place in Moscow in March 1939, Stalin again said that "a new economic crisis began, which seized, above all, the USA, and after them - England, France, and a number of other countries." He described these countries as “non-aggressive, democratic states”, and called Japan, Germany and Italy in his speech “aggressor states” that unleashed a war. V.M. Molotov during his opening speech at the congress, as well as the deputies of the congress.

But the tone of the newspapers changed dramatically immediately after the conclusion of the Soviet-German non-aggression pact 23 August 1939. Articles describing the horrors of the Gestapo disappeared, criticism was heard against Great Britain, France and the United States, and articles appeared about the bitter share of ordinary Finns "under the yoke of Finnish plutocracy." Materials appeared from which it was clear that the main instigators of the new war were not Germany, Italy, Japan, but England and France. It was Great Britain and France that, according to Pravda, hatched plans for war against Germany. Meanwhile, such fluctuations in the information flow are always very dangerous, since they hint at press engagement and own fluctuations in the country's leadership. The flow of information should be more neutral, more indifferent and consistent.

But the worst thing is that vague ideas about the realities of life in the West were not only ordinary citizens of the USSR, but also representatives of the country's political elite, and, in particular, Molotov himself, who was the Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars since 1930, and the People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs from 1939. . For example, in the spring of 1940, the German ambassador von Schulenburg reported to Berlin that "Molotov, who has never been abroad, is experiencing great difficulties when dealing with foreigners."

Reading Soviet 30 newspapers, the thought involuntarily arises that the authorities of the country and its party apparatus did not trust their own people, and apparently believed that truthful messages did not come to him because they are not profitable for the party. That is, they acted, as the authorities of Oceania in the novel by G. Orwell "1984". Obviously, this should have been evident to many (for example, to academician Vernadsky, she definitely threw herself!), And this resulted in a gradual erosion of confidence in propaganda in the country as a whole. Well, the fact that the “world revolution” for some reason will not start at all, saw almost everything!

To be continued.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 13 November 2015 06: 22
    +2
    As everything was bad in Soviet Russia, the press lied to the people, propaganda, do not do this, you have to equal the modern Western publications, which have reached the peak of democracy, especially in the press.
    1. kalibr
      13 November 2015 07: 16
      +2
      Not everything was bad, far from it. But regarding the press, yes. And it was necessary to be equal not to modern Western publications (why did you take it, where is it from the authors?), But to common sense, that is, to give information so that people would have no reason to doubt anything.
      1. Victor jnnjdfy
        Victor jnnjdfy 13 November 2015 17: 27
        +1
        “Every warrior must understand his maneuver” - these are not my words. When a warrior / man ceases to understand, then he begins to doubt, and then ceases to believe.
        It seems to me that this is exactly what you wanted to say.
        I would also like to note that arguing with the "fossil zampolites" is not very effective. Thank God, the "hurray-patriots" have not taken up your grants properly here.
        1. kalibr
          14 November 2015 18: 08
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          They have already taken and blame for all mortal sins, but ... they are also people, they have the right to their own opinion. Wrong? Very often this is from ignorance and many other reasons. So why not argue with them? And then after all, not only they are here, others come in. Another thing is surprising - today almost all information is checked. But ... check them laziness. A step to the right and left of the usual position is shooting on the spot. That is OK. Young people today are no longer like that. Gradually, everything will change.
          Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
          “Every warrior must understand his maneuver” - these are not my words. When a warrior / man ceases to understand, then he begins to doubt, and then ceases to believe.
          It seems to me that this is exactly what you wanted to say.

          Yes, of course, this is obvious!
          1. Victor jnnjdfy
            Victor jnnjdfy 14 November 2015 23: 12
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            This is not the type of dispute in which truth is born. They do not check not because of their laziness. It’s simple and so everything has long been clear to them, and there can be no other way for them in principle.
            I read the "accusations" against you about Western grants. It is clear that you received them for work in no way aimed at the detriment of your Country. But I also think that the West (and grandfather Soros in particular) is not our friend. The West wants the natural resources of the World to belong to all of Mankind (read transnational corporations). The population of Russia is some 2-3% of the world, and reserves of natural resources in the territory of the Russian Federation are concentrated, probably 20-30% of the world. From the point of view of the West, this is a complete "disgrace", and it will not lag behind us here. Plus, the World (the countries and peoples inhabiting them), in my opinion, is based on force. And Russia is the only militarily country in the world that is currently capable of inflicting unacceptable damage on the West. The West wants to eliminate this threat.
            You have compared Western grants to "trophy weapons" that are a sin not to use in battle. But you have recaptured the trophy weapon from the enemy, and you received grants from the hands of the enemy. There is a difference. I am far from the topic of grants and their receipt in order to have a clear position on this issue, and for me everything is not so simple.
            Young people are different now. She is very different. There wasn’t such a variety under the Union. In my opinion, it has become better in comparison with the 90s, but for her material values, in my opinion, are excessively important.
    2. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 13 November 2015 08: 23
      +1
      You download for example the Spark and read for yourself.
      All is available.
      1. kalibr
        13 November 2015 08: 29
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        Yes, and part of the Truth has already been translated into electronic format, no need to go to the library!
    3. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 13 November 2015 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: Igor39
      As everything was bad in Soviet Russia, the press lied to the people, propaganda, do not do this, you have to equal the modern Western publications, which have reached the peak of democracy, especially in the press.

      Honestly, they got such comments. The authors write about specific things, not a single word about Western ones. and especially modern editions. Is it good form to write about the opposite extreme as the only alternative?
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 13 November 2015 08: 01
    +2
    Materials appeared from which it was clear that the main arsonists of the new war were not Germany, Italy, Japan, but England and France...And if you understand .. in fact, it was so .. Germany, Italy, Japan- matches in the hands of England and France, the USA .. and yes, there were a lot of jambs .. Here for example .. In the Song Three tankers the word "Samurai" in the lines: "The samurai decided that night"; “And the samurai flew to the ground”, for foreign policy reasons, it is sometimes replaced by an “enemy pack.” Or the song Accept us, the beautiful Suomi was performed almost six months before the outbreak of hostilities in Karelia. And at the same time, such a song was written in 1940 after the occupation of France by Germany:
    Red banner, communards raised,
    We brought the French people
    And your Paris, taken from Hitler,
    Again, under the banner of red lives.
    Apparently, they planned the liberation of Paris, which was then under the German.
  3. sevtrash
    sevtrash 13 November 2015 08: 08
    +6
    A surprising conclusion "... the country's authorities and its party apparatus did not trust their own people, and apparently believed that truthful messages were useless to him, since they were not beneficial to the party ...". It can be applied to almost any country. Information support for the actions of the authorities was and will be. Most people are led, as one politician put it - biomass. This biomass needs to be spilled so that thoughts and reactions are directed where necessary. So it was and is and is likely to be in all countries, in varying degrees of severity or "rigidity" of the proposed biomass interpretation.
    1. kalibr
      13 November 2015 08: 27
      +2
      Correctly you all write + you are big! Everywhere it is (but the article is about us!). But it is NECESSARY TO POOL CORRECTLY, SKILLED, and not as the examples from our newspapers say. Then not healthy vegetables will grow, but thorny weeds! And then in one place "cannibal Hitler", and six months later already "Chancellor Hitler", "the leader of the German people." Agree that it hurt people's eyes. There was no TV, the newspapers were read carefully, there were political information, mass readings, lectures by propagandists ...
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 09: 31
        +1
        kalibr
        It hurt my eyes? Why would YOU draw such a conclusion from publications in the Spark, which on this subject drove a bug to death?
        The fact of the matter is that political information, mass reading, lectures and other methods used by propaganda of that time, oriented the population as it was necessary.

        In the end, the USSR was not in a state of war with Germany until June 1941, so on what basis would it stop economic cooperation, yelling at the likeness of the current liberal media, to Germany?
        The pragmatic policy of the USSR, according to the notorious myth-makers, is a forbidden technique, and for Western countries, the beacon of democratic development, where is the logic7

        Not the Germans in Moscow, but the Soviet Army in Berlin.
        Now throw the bridge to the present and what will we see? And we will see what the authors of the article are talking about with such aplomb and claims, hoping to throw another lump of dirt in the past, deliberately not noticing the dirt that is pouring now, from screens and newspaper magazines and generally all kinds of media.

        Examples? Let’s just take, for example, Solovyov’s broadcast, The Duel, yesterday’s and one of its participants, a certain director, Reichelgauz — who should be silent and not say how many there are now in RBC, SNOB, TV-Rain, Echo of Moscow and other mouthpieces of propaganda not needed by the country?
        1. kalibr
          13 November 2015 12: 20
          +3
          The authors of the article first of all want to show what mistakes should be avoided by the modern media, haven't you seen it?
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          Not the Germans in Moscow, but the Soviet Army in Berlin.

          Yes, everything is so, but only where is the Soviet army and its country originated? And from here comes the conclusion: the past, including the tragic, must be studied not in order to dance on the bones, but so that it, the tragic, does not happen again! Including the fault of the press!
          1. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 20: 37
            +2
            kalibr
            Where?
            Well, let’s say, the degenerated class of the Soviet party nomenclature betrayed the country in exchange for material and other resources, including AUTHORITY in destinies.

            Stalin warned about the danger of degeneration, speaking of the "accursed caste", saying a phrase, either incomprehensible by all sorts of words, or deliberately spoken about, that with the development of socialism the class struggle tends to intensify.
            It turned out to be right, according to the events of 90 years.

            And it turns out to be right again when it turns out that Putin make a decision, contrary to the liberal caste, the rebellion of CASTA will immediately ripen against him, which then you write, was ... gone?

            And to study ... study, but from the standpoint of historicism
            , which means from the standpoint of those realities, and not knowledge after the fact, taking into account the opinions, events and facts that have already happened and you know.

            Having studied, try not to get from Soros, grants, this one from the hands of the bloody ringleader of the Kiev Junta, the Order of Freedom, I received ... like a certain S. Kovalev, the order from the hands of the bloody Dudaev ... and earn in the country, for the country and in the name of the country .

            Heavy?
            Of course, but not shameful how to get grants from the hands of a little man who had a hand in the murder of our country.
            1. kalibr
              14 November 2015 17: 20
              0
              In 1998, when the Soros Foundation was operating quite legally in Russia, it announced a grant competition for the best popular science book on history. This year my book "Knights of the Middle Ages" was published in my publishing house Enlightenment. Having added new material to it, I wrote the book "Knights of Eurasia". She won a grant in the amount of $ 1 (not a lot, right?) And + another $ 1 was relied upon if I gave a lecture on her at one of the country's universities. I think you will be smart enough to understand that there were no "anti-Russian requirements" for work officially approved by the leadership of the Armed Forces. I went to give a lecture to the University of Novosibirsk, where there is a very solid scientific school of history. And ... it is clear that both students and teachers listened to me there, and were satisfied. Then, on the basis of what was done, the book "Knights of the East" was published. It is on the Web - look for your favorite "Russophobia" for us. Now, use your brains, not foam, to whom in '98 this grant got sick? Country? She got 2 thousand dollars richer! I am silent about myself, but our people received a good book, gained knowledge, became more educated! And what's the shame? Following your logic, in the years of water, it was impossible to take trophy weapons - they have the blood of the murderers of our women and children, there is German canned food, and so on. In my opinion, this is obvious nonsense!
              1. onix757
                onix757 14 November 2015 17: 41
                0
                In 1998, when the Soros Foundation acted quite legally in Russia, he announced a grant competition for the best popular science book on history.

                Is it legal now?
                1. kalibr
                  14 November 2015 18: 12
                  0
                  And now it doesn't work. All! And if any financial injections carried out in an illegal way would have taken place, then ... they would have been calculated and stopped. You can't carry a lot of money in a suitcase either! Of course, financial assistance to "agents of influence" is carried out in this way, no doubt. But it is hardly possible to provide an "anti-Russian grant" legally. In any case, it is difficult to imagine how this is done!
            2. kalibr
              14 November 2015 18: 11
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              Quote: vladkavkaz
              Well, let’s say, the degenerated class of the Soviet party nomenclature betrayed the country in exchange for material and other resources, including AUTHORITY in destinies.

              Then what are we talking about? The country was doomed by any means!
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 18: 14
                -2
                kalibr
                No.
                Did Soros tell you this?
                But for example, the largest learned economist, Leontiev, whom the spotty traitor did not want to listen to, having studied the state of the country, said the USSR, it takes only three years to completely reformat production, which does not require a change in the social system.
                Odanko, such as you, have chosen Yeltsin and Gaidar, having received the collapse, destruction and collapse of the country.
        2. Doctorleg
          Doctorleg 13 November 2015 14: 08
          0
          Do you like to receive false information? Do I understand correctly? After all, the article is about this. Was the West so pragmatic in 1939? Hitler was very surprised when he was informed that England and France declared war on him on September 3 in response to the attack on Poland. You can explain this from the point of view of our propaganda that England and France pushed Hitler to the USSR. It doesn’t matter how they fought then - actively or not, but it is unlikely that the state of war in the West motivated Hitler to start a war in the East. Which he actually confirmed by defeating all sorts of Holland and France to begin with.
  4. brn521
    brn521 13 November 2015 11: 09
    +2
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Did your eyes hurt?

    Even as a cut. This is not today's abundance of sources. At that time there was a shortage of information. For example, one newspaper in the village was literally literate for the illiterate, right down to the ads. Everything was assimilated, thought over and remembered for a long time. In such circumstances, the approach to presenting information should be especially careful.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 11: 31
      -1
      brn521
      Do you have a century-old witness, readings in huts, newspapers of a regional scale? No?

      What was required to convey to the population was brought up to the extent that was required, and no one is interested in how in the West they eat whiskey in the saloons and beat their faces.

      As far as foreign policy was concerned, it was brought up to the extent that is sufficient for the population — you are really sure that YOU are now fully informing precisely the Information, and not fictions, such as those that some Piontkovsky, Radzikhovsky periodically spills out on the air , Venediktov and a bunch of others like them?
      THIS is for you, doesn’t hurt your eyes?
      1. kalibr
        13 November 2015 12: 25
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        Vlad, the difference now is that I can compare what "they inform me" with what they "report there" and draw my own conclusions. And then people did not have such an opportunity. And people noticed when in one issue they wrote "Tukhachevsky is the son of a peasant", and three months later "Tukhachevsky is the son of a landowner". The article contains links to Chicherin and Schulenburg, but as if it all passed you by.
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 20: 28
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          kalibr
          Well ... Tukhachevsky ... as it turned out, those who were right were writing, the son of a landowner, like those who demanded punishment for his deeds, would not hobnob with Trotsky, would not try on Napoleon's hat, look and what was the use, So..

          You come up with today's standards, a long-standing day and absolutely do not take into account the realities of those times and the most acute struggle in the country, between factions in the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, which are pretty littered by both fans of the leiba and kransoboyar, from Kamenev to Zinoviev.
          If in the upper echelons of power, sometimes they didn’t understand who was OWN, and who turned out to be Alien, then do you really think that for the country as a whole, the dregs of discord in the media would be useful?
          Before the war?

          Let's look at the realities of today.
          What is Putin discussing there today? I’ll clarify in Sochi?

          Do you think that what he said there and what tasks he set up, does it make sense to ring up all the newspapers, or, what was said there, has its own, quite definite addressees, performers, and those responsible in general?

          And have you, to me, generally to society, the state media, given exactly the information that you considered necessary.
          And WITHOUT accounting, anyway unconventional, such as figures from the Echo of Moscow, rain and other Piontkovsky.
          1. kalibr
            14 November 2015 17: 22
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            Quote: vladkavkaz
            Do you really think that for the country as a whole, the dregs of discord in the media would be useful?

            Are you illiterate? The article refers to the fact that the discord is NOT USEFUL!
            1. vladkavkaz
              vladkavkaz 14 November 2015 18: 17
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              kalibr
              Then what are you writing about in general in your article, if in a comment, contradict yourself? You are not happy with the presentation of information as it was, now you are again not happy with what you were told that the discord and verbiage is inherent in journalists, the country no need, where is the logic in your construction?
              1. kalibr
                15 November 2015 08: 39
                0
                Read the material, all 3 articles, and not invent!
      2. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 13 November 2015 14: 13
        +2
        Of course, it is better to read the inventions of the state media about the fact that a little more will be a world revolution. It is false information that leads to the fact that they stop trusting government sources. In this sense, the presence of other sources of information does not allow one to go too far. But you can only watch Vesti or read the Pravda newspaper.
  5. dmb
    dmb 13 November 2015 11: 13
    +3
    One can agree with the authors only on one thing, one should not evaluate Soviet propaganda by the standards of capitalist propaganda. After all, the country had a completely different idea. But I did not understand the authors' claims to the Soviet propaganda of the period described by him. The only thing they are dissatisfied with, judging by the article, is the absence of the existence of a capitalist society in the studied regional newspapers. (I wonder where they would get this information from in the districts). And this being was not so hidden from the people. It is worth recalling that "One-Story America" ​​and a host of other literature were not published at all in the era of "glasnost triumph."
    1. kalibr
      13 November 2015 12: 28
      0
      No, not "being" at all! And inconsistencies and contradictions! There should be ONE stream of information in a besieged fortress, not three in different directions. This creates confusion in the minds.
      1. dmb
        dmb 13 November 2015 15: 43
        +1
        Well, where are they, judging by the article? Or do you think that over the years 30 propaganda should not change in accordance with both external and internal circumstances? Then you are more orthodox than any Hasid. If to be frank, the orthodoxy of propaganda methods was one of the main reasons for the temporary victory of the counter-revolution in the 1991 year.
        1. kalibr
          13 November 2015 18: 32
          +1
          Dear Dmitry, you read everything to the end. About all the flows that took place in the USSR at the specified time. And I’m just saying that the presentation of information should change "according to the weather." But smart!
          To make it clearer, I will give an example. George Orwell was notoriously leftist and went to Spain to fight in the units of the POUM - Trotskyists. He returned as an ardent anti-Soviet, about which he wrote in the book "Farewell, Catalonia". World War II began, Hitler attacked the USSR. He comes to the newspaper and brings an article about ... Stalinism! And they tell him - "This is not the time to publish this, our Russian allies!" He told them - Russian "yes", their system - "no". We need to remind people of this all the time! They did not listen to him. The year 2 has come. The newspaper began to sharply criticize "Soviets". And indignant letters from the workers were sent - accusations of cynicism, deceit, venality. The government began to lose its voice. Why? Very sharp roll to the right! It was the same with us in '46! And then in America "blacks are hanged", then they are not hanged at all! And we need a little, so that they don't forget: they send egg powder and shoes, but all the same - class enemies! But without pedaling, lower the tone. And the film "Alexander Nevsky" cannot be removed from the screens, right after the Pact!
          1. dmb
            dmb 14 November 2015 21: 06
            +1
            Listen, well, you can't have such a frivolous discussion. Not everyone is limited only to collections of tales on the Internet. Neither the press of that time, nor in your article, has a single fact when the "hanging of blacks" was refuted. Apparently this is why you brought Orwell's example; there were no domestic ones. Cite where your article speaks of the laudatory odes to capitalism in the Soviet press. There is no such thing, and the fact that after the Pact they began to be silent about Germany and scold Britain, rather testifies to the intelligence of leading propaganda, for it is difficult to imagine more stupidity than scolding the side with which the Non-Aggression Pact was concluded.
            1. kalibr
              15 November 2015 08: 42
              0
              What are we talking about? On the management of public opinion. That is, first to scold and then praise is normal? And the "odes" ... wait part 3!
          2. dmb
            dmb 16 November 2015 08: 19
            0
            Yes, not in your article to be "praised". Well, quote yourself in this part.
    2. kalibr
      13 November 2015 19: 01
      0
      Quote: dmb
      The only thing they are dissatisfied with according to the article is the lack of capitalist society in the studied regional newspapers.

      That was enough. About this in the 3rd article. I was just that at that time, given that system and system, this would be less, or even not at all! You must always read to the end. This is still the "first road". For 20 years they have been writing about the world revolution, but it still has not begun. And they wrote in the spirit, but tomorrow, but tomorrow ...
  6. kvs207
    kvs207 13 November 2015 11: 23
    +1
    Quote: dmb
    (I wonder where they would get this information from in the regions).

    Exactly. Limited sources and qualifications of publishers. We worked for several months and the publishing house of the same newspaper and sees the "kitchen" there. What can I say - sad.
  7. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 13 November 2015 11: 37
    +1
    The author of the article did not cope with the task. She covers this topic from her personal point of view, mercantile and liberal. And here we need an independent, extrapolated approach. And the author pours into our ears that, they say, the Bolsheviks such and such did not write the whole truth to the people, so that this people would be an unaware cattle, which is easier to manage. Beloved author, study the era, cause and effect relationships. And even if after that you don’t have an unbiased picture in your head, you should know that the anti-Soviet is always Russophobe. And the casket just opened. The Bolsheviks had a goal to restore the country and strengthen it. There was no one to hope for, as soon as their own people. The media is an element of control, and its orientation at that time simply could not be different. Therefore, I would like to advise the author to convict the Bolsheviks of incompetence somewhere else, in the West, for example, or in the circle of liberal anti-Soviet friends. Also, the author should study the media of Western countries throughout the period of the confrontation between Russia / USSR and the West, what information they fed their citizens, learn a lot. Well, after comparing with what scale of thinking the Bolsheviks ruled, especially in the Stalin era, and how the power has been functioning since the collapse of the USSR to this day, where reform is an act of vandalism. What does not take, all through one place. Take the same education, medicine, economics, transportation and housing.

    They will pick up healthy and beautiful, and they ask how smart.
    1. kalibr
      13 November 2015 12: 38
      +1
      Quote: Mareman Vasilich
      Therefore, I would like to advise the author to convict the Bolsheviks of incompetence somewhere else, in the West, for example, or in the circle of liberal anti-Soviet friends.

      You know, if I wanted to do this, it was enough just to download the comments of a number of readers from here and publish them "there". It fit perfectly into the picture that the Western media are trying to stick on us. And our people are actively helping them in this! Information flow management is a complex business, it requires professionalism. I have had a number of articles on this topic here on this site. I do not know what you personally lost from the collapse of the USSR (well, we all lost the country), but personally, as an associate professor of the history of the CPSU, I lost a lot, so no need to reproach me. "Also let the author study the media of Western countries throughout the period of confrontation between Russia / USSR and the West, what information they fed their citizens, learn a lot of new things" - did you study, yes, in English and German, yes, and where and how? Am I interested?
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 13 November 2015 17: 53
        +1
        What did you want to say?
        1. kalibr
          13 November 2015 18: 34
          0
          What you need to know about what you write and what you advise others!
  8. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 13 November 2015 12: 22
    +2
    Learn how you can draw a false and necessary conclusion from truthful facts: "The communists lied" and "did not trust their own people."
    Advocacy has always been, it is now going on. And no one will ever give all the information. What is false in these facts? How do the authors relate to the fact that the anniversary of November 7 was not noticed by the official press and TV? Doesn't this surprise the historian and scientist?
    PS Spin the mouse wheel like in roulette.
    "But here's what's strange: according to the newspaper Pravda, the increase in the unemployment rate abroad was caused by nothing more than the rationalization of production - that is, by the same to which she herself urged the workers of her own country!"

    Nothing strange, the difference in the rationalization of production under socialism and capitalism.
    In the USSR, that period grew unemployment? Has the power of the state grown?
    And so it can be for every true fact.
    1. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 13 November 2015 12: 38
      -3
      Comrade, aunt and uncle, authors, brainwashed or work out a grant.
      1. kalibr
        13 November 2015 14: 08
        0
        What nonsense. You yourself brainwashed. You fooled your head with grants, but you also hung your ears. What do you know about grants? Have you ever received them, you know how it surrounds and how it happens? Well, that's not necessary. But go ahead. I personally am glad that we have so many controlled people who are thoughtlessly repeating other people's tales. Without work, our students will not be left!
        By the way, do you know how much "there" they pay for an article, for a book, and at least the average size of grants? Google it and see ... Surprise a little at the same time!
        By the way, I received a grant from the Soros Foundation in 1998, and two grants from the RHNF and now I am participating in the competition for the RHNF grant again.
        1. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 13 November 2015 17: 56
          +1
          Thanks to such recipients of Soros grants, a dime a dozen in the land of traitors. Thanks to the recipients of the "grants", we have now killed medicine with education, but destroyed social services and industry.
          1. kalibr
            13 November 2015 18: 35
            0
            Do you know why I received a grant from Soros? Or is it like with Pasternak: I have not read it, but it's bad!
            1. Mareman Vasilich
              Mareman Vasilich 14 November 2015 11: 21
              0
              Stop making idiots out of people. Do you really think that I will believe that foreign agents of influence wish us and our country good, us, the eternal enemy? All Western funds (American in particular) are aimed at the destruction of our country. And those of our citizens who are related to these funds are traitors.
              1. kalibr
                14 November 2015 17: 28
                0
                Why make an idiot out of you when it's already done?
                Quote: Mareman Vasilich
                And those of our citizens who are related to these funds are traitors.

                Here it is - the classic opinion of an ignorant illiterate type! You don’t even know how much and what kind of research is being done on Western grants in the country and don’t want to know, because propaganda has fooled you. Open the website of the Russian Humanitarian Science Foundation and see what is there, which areas are considered priority and what joint research is being conducted. There is an archive ...
        2. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 2 December 2015 12: 29
          0
          http://zavtra.ru/content/view/soros/
    2. kalibr
      13 November 2015 14: 15
      0
      Once there were mammoths ... but extinct! Once was the USSR. But where is he? Like a mammoth, yes, he swam. So I don’t want another repetition of 1991 of the year, much less 1917!
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 13 November 2015 17: 24
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        Once there were mammoths ... but extinct! Once was the USSR. But where is he? Like a mammoth, yes, he swam. So I don’t want another repetition of 1991 of the year, much less 1917!

        "Was, but swam." Worthy words of the associate professor of the department of the history of the CPSU, receiving grants from Soros. Honestly work out grants. Why google it? Tell me. And, then, usually, in such cases, they remember about 30 coins. Did you keep your membership card or burn it?
        PS"After all, this material is, in fact," a piece of a dissertation. " "For such conclusions, a degree will be awarded today even without protection. Although, the grant is not bad!
        PSI You write better about hard drives.
        1. kalibr
          13 November 2015 18: 43
          0
          If I were you, I would first ask, what is the Soros grant for? Isn't it interesting? And then I would remember about 30 coins. Do you think I didn't specifically mention this? You could have kept silent, right? And you immediately "work out". And what is the RHNF? Are you interested? But immediately blame ... Eh, you need to think with your head. And the ticket, the ticket is like a memory, why burn it, who can annoy? Honestly, we need to ask the VO administration for permission to tell something in the order of memories. And your P.S. this is again from ignorance. And I have been working in high school since 1982. From assistant to associate professor. And about hard drives it turns out better ... So there I write myself, and this is written by my graduate student, and I only help her.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 13 November 2015 20: 01
            +1
            Quote: kalibr
            If I were you ...


            You have posted the article. I expressed my opinion. Extremely negative. I’m not going to lead a discussion about your moral character and merits. Do you want to refute my opinion about your article.
            1. kalibr
              13 November 2015 21: 33
              0
              Every capable citizen of Russia can have his own opinion. This right is guaranteed to him by the constitution. And to refute ... why? Society needs people like you. If they were not for natural reasons, they would have to be hired and paid. Why? My article about synergetics and Ukraine has already been about this here. Curiosity. Curiosity is not a vice! If you had shown him, you would have known that Soros is not as bad and as he is portrayed and has done a lot for Russia, good, although probably bad. But I only read about the bad, but I personally had the good. Also about the RHNF - what it is and where it comes from. And thoughtlessly repeating "they are bad" is not a very smart person, right?
              1. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 13 November 2015 22: 52
                +1
                Quote: kalibr
                And to refute ... why?

                Indeed, how to write an article with a false, far-fetched conclusion to refute the truth?
                Quote: kalibr
                People like you need society.

                I am sure about that. I had to change my opinion about something having received previously unknown knowledge (including the word "VO"), but the main thing is honor, conscience, duty remained unchanged.
                Do you get personal? According to the article, weakly?
                1. kalibr
                  14 November 2015 17: 31
                  +1
                  The article (first part) says it all. The material was read by a famous doctor of sciences, editor of a highly patriotic magazine. I was surprised, did not expect that there were THREE streams, I thought that one! He said that this just speaks of the DEMOCRACY of the then society, although they say that there was a dictatorship. There you go. But here I do not agree with him. The besieged fortress is not up to democracy!
    3. kalibr
      13 November 2015 14: 23
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      Nothing strange, the difference in the rationalization of production under socialism and capitalism.
      In the USSR, that period grew unemployment? Has the power of the state grown?

      And how do you beat the muzzles of the Stakhanovists? And for what?
      And then there were an increase in production rates and events in Novocherkassk, and other places ...
      And the power grew, grew ... and what happened next?
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 13 November 2015 17: 30
        0
        Quote: kalibr
        And the power grew, grew ... and what happened next?

        And then there was Hitler. And then there were the "corrupt communists". (The words are not mine, the one who doesn't give a damn about everything.) And then there were grants.
        1. kalibr
          13 November 2015 18: 50
          0
          How, after all, our people love to count money in someone else's pocket. And ... yes, you can buy a lot. I wrote above that if the admins allow, I will tell you something from my stormy biography. It seems to me that it will be interesting and instructive. And the age is already, pulls on the memoirs-ha-ha. And then as a sin I remember the words of Poincaré. He has become old, dying. The journalists were allowed to see him. "Why didn't you write your memoirs? You know so much!" - said one. And Poincaré replied: "If I told everything I know, not a single person would risk dying for their homeland!" For France? "- the journalist asked him." No, for the homeland! "- Poincaré replied.
        2. kalibr
          13 November 2015 21: 40
          0
          And before the corrupt communists in Penza, according to a report to the OK CPSU in 1962, at the height of the Caribbean crisis, from 5, the 2 communist labor brigades broke up because of drunkenness. We have a former archive of the OK CPSU. He is in every city. It used to be a very important place, but today it’s a cold and smelly refuge of numerous cats. But the documents are interesting there ...
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 13 November 2015 23: 06
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            of the 5 brigades of communist labor, 2 broke up due to drunkenness.

            Yes, easily. Made for show, for showing off, it will fall apart.
            1. kalibr
              14 November 2015 18: 23
              0
              And what else did you do for the same window dressing and what then fell apart?
  9. Pushkar
    Pushkar 13 November 2015 13: 44
    0
    The Soviet "Agitprop", alas, was always clumsy and clumsy. The main proof of this is the events of 1991-93. We lost to the West on all fronts.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 20: 16
      0
      Pushkar
      Sorry, but minus, YOU,
      I put.
      I put it on for the reason that, as YOU call "Soviet agitprop" by the age of 91-93, in particular, since 1987, at least, it absolutely ceased to be Soviet.
      And why so ... think, remember, for example, not an unknown letter from Andreeva and the roar of Yakovlev, packs of scribblers, who in the near future became the basis of liberal media.
      1. kalibr
        13 November 2015 21: 35
        0
        Now Vlad You will also bitterly learn that he was always awkward!
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 23: 02
          0
          kalibr
          With obvious displeasure, I admit ONE YOU, lying impudently, pulling out garbage - is that how Soros grants are being worked out?
          The propaganda of the Union was awkward .. well, yes, therefore, they crushed Hitler. Before that awkward, that the first went into space.
          So clumsy that one Amer president, was forced to admit that the education system of the USSR is inaccessible to the United States, and if nothing is changed in the United States, the United States is doomed.

          We have such a character, A. Tsipko ... what do you remind him of ... he fought for the same, in the Central Committee, promoted something there, but immediately surrendered everything that he "served and swore" at 91, probably the same, the grant was issued ..

          You seem to be afraid that having learned the lesson taught to the people and the country in 90, the country and people will go their own way, and you and your like servants of Soros will be thrown to the sidelines, as completely unnecessary.
          1. kalibr
            14 November 2015 17: 34
            +1
            Quote: vladkavkaz
            The propaganda of the Union was awkward .. well, yes, therefore, they crushed Hitler. Before that awkward, that the first went into space.

            What country are we talking about? Where is she on the world map?
      2. Pushkar
        Pushkar 13 November 2015 22: 12
        +3
        And what was it like, this Agitprop by 1991-93? Haitian? Martian? Yakovlev and Gaidar (editor-in-chief of the Kommunist magazine, who put it!) Where did they come from? Andreeva's letter is doubly out of time (25 years late), stupid and absurd, and therefore it was replicated. I won't bet you a minus.
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 23: 05
          -1
          Pushkar
          Agitprop 91-92, was already anti-Soviet.
          The power of the GOSMASHINA, Power and Propaganda, worked against the country. Have you really forgotten who A. Yakovlev was?
          And where after the coup turned out to be this same A. Yakovlev.
          Adreyeva’s letter was in place, it was not by chance that such a scream, a scream and howl stood, with attempts to defame this woman.
          1. Pushkar
            Pushkar 14 November 2015 00: 29
            +1
            In 1990, 88, 85, 83 - weren't the same people in Agitprop? Where did all this army of Komsomol perestroika activists grow up, who at once became capitalists? Sent from abroad? Find at least one of the current owners of "factories, newspapers, ships" who would not have been in power under the USSR (or their parents)? Better not remember Andreev, she helped them a lot as a scarecrow.
        2. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 14 November 2015 11: 26
          0
          Head think first. The USSR was different, which means that it is necessary to respond in a detailed manner, and not in a generalized manner.
  10. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 13 November 2015 21: 45
    -1
    Quote: brn521
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Did your eyes hurt?

    Even as a cut. This is not today's abundance of sources. At that time there was a shortage of information. For example, one newspaper in the village was literally literate for the illiterate, right down to the ads. Everything was assimilated, thought over and remembered for a long time. In such circumstances, the approach to presenting information should be especially careful.

    Here is what I heard from relatives: my great-grandmother died 45 years ago, lived in the village, could not read, she didn’t get it. But until her death, every newspaper leaf thrown by someone straightened and carefully kept it. She was also afraid of crushing or throwing out some newspaper images. Apparently something tragic happened that she saw. these relatives' stories confirm the quotation.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 23: 16
      -1
      Reptiloid
      What does it confirm? What did you read, remember and learn? Or what did you read, following the events in the country, not really wondering what the Yankees are doing in the saloons, but clearly understanding what needs to be done, here and now.
      You say there is experience. Tragic. This is what it reminds me of, from the time of the hunch building, the anecdote of Khazanov, about the patter and the toilet. It’s not worthwhile to build your logical messages so primitively.
      I’ll bring you another experience, family. I have 10 children, half a hundred chickens, geese, two cows, a dozen huts and a drunk neighbor, a crappy little man, DONOS wrote.
      Yes, here is the secretary, where that letter of denunciation fell, warned the family, they left, they were alive, they were healthy ... and a year later, drunk, they took, under article 58, for embezzlement of social property.

      You have not yet understood why the archival data on the denunciations are closed?
      You still do not understand who is screaming about the past more than anyone else, they say everything is bad there, just knowing that it was bad from their ancestors in abundance?
      Example? Yes, please, remember Zhinka Sakharov, who was an academician and mumbled something from the rostrum of the Congress, about the alleged attacks of his aircraft on his own soldiers?
      Bonner's surname, Elena, who. So she screamed so loudly that her stepfather, the innocent victim of the regime, screamed, screamed, demanded ... dissuaded, did not hear.
      They gave it to read, it’s been enough 15 minutes, that would be nowhere and never, she said about her stepfather, they say innocent, did not say anything to anyone at all.
      The denunciations of the master was to write, a hundred people were injured — teachers and military, response and party workers.
      In the end, we figured out the green, the wall and the kayak into the pit, science was rightly a thief.
      Do you now have something clearer?
  11. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 13 November 2015 22: 09
    0
    Regarding the article, dear Vyacheslav, it’s somehow difficult for me. Parents were born later. During that life, many people told, but not about the press. Only about the shortage of everything, and subscription publications too.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 13 November 2015 22: 59
      0
      I wrote not quite that. According to relatives, there was a shortage of books. Subscription multivolume editions were "loaded." And newspapers and magazines were signed, but they were either "from above" distributed or "played out." In general, as I understand it, the inhabitants of the USSR read there are many books, newspapers and magazines.
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 13 November 2015 23: 23
        +1
        Reptiloid
        Yes, there was a shortage of good books.
        But families wrote out a pack of newspapers and thick magazines. The country read a lot.
        Not waste paper, such as Dontsova and other Rublev divas, but good literature, from Mine Reed for the young, to Dostoevsky, from Fenimore Cooper to Tolstoy, which was worth at least a luxuriously executed book, traditions of the American Indians, Song of Hiawatha ...
        1. Pushkar
          Pushkar 14 November 2015 00: 41
          +1
          Yes, the press was empty, empty. In the same Pravda there was nothing to read, only streamlined empty words. And good literature was in short supply, on the shelves of the stores were luxuriously published materials of congresses and plenums, and "Malaya Zemlya" and "Celina". "Three Musketeers", printed on newsprint, could only be bought by handing over the waste paper. I still have War and Peace on such newsprint, printed in Frunze. PS And I wonder if anyone remembers what the "Song of Hiawatha" is about?
          1. Mareman Vasilich
            Mareman Vasilich 14 November 2015 11: 30
            -1
            This is all in your young head so it seems. All juvenile idiots have the same picture.
            1. Pushkar
              Pushkar 14 November 2015 17: 54
              +2
              Well, you flatter me. I'm not so young. 68 years will suit you? And I am an officer not only in the forum, but also in life. 6 government awards - very young and so on? You really put your language yourself know where.
          2. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 15 November 2015 20: 10
            0
            Pushkar
            Strange books you have ... Mine
            Reed and Fenimore Cooper, Tolstoy and Chekhov, do you have the same thing exclusively on the newspaper? Do you know anything about the Ramayana?
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 14 November 2015 06: 33
      +1
      Dear Vladikavkaz, you have slightly, or rather, distorted my words quite a bit.
      Quote: vladkavkaz
      Reptiloid
      What does it confirm? What did you read, remember and learn? Or what did you read, following the events in the country, not really wondering what the Yankees are doing in the saloons, but clearly understanding what needs to be done, here and now.
      You say the experience is there. Tragic.
      I am not going to quote myself in full. I have this: “the tragic thing that she saw.” Before the war, my great-grandmother had 6 children, after the war, 3. All then learned, became worthy people. And great-grandfathers were gone during the war. lived very poorly, terribly. There was a lot in the village. And the land was measured, and another neighbor (her house was nearby) wrote a letter to someone. But they, my relatives, did not really want to talk about bad things. So you shouldn't the story of my great-grandmother was combined with something personal. I wrote what I know.
      Khazanov’s anecdote didn’t hear. Like Gorbachev. In general, they are very far from me. It’s either simply uninteresting (Khazanov) or criminal (G.M.S.). It is all the more ugly to play a trick on other people's lives, especially the dead. You all reduce it to a primitive. it turns out, in your words, that some kind of joke has the value of a document. And the old woman always told her children and grandchildren about newspapers, about their savings.
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 15 November 2015 20: 21
        0
        Reptiloid
        Colleague, I did not set as my goal how to offend you or something else, you just can not compare the country after the Civil, after the Great Patriotic War, with today.
        The strange arguments of the rabid in anti-Sovietism, already got their impassable blackness ..
        If any other country, within 20 years, was subjected to such a rout, then in general it would hardly have recovered, but the USSR could. It was difficult? Yes it was difficult.
        For example, they scream, the Victory Parade wasn’t flown after 1945, they say it’s such a disgrace .. how to say, how to say .. the small town in Ukraine, Shepetivka, the center, were restored only by 1965, there were so many parades .. towns, villages, villages?
        But by 1965, they were no longer living in bast shoes, onuhs and chicken huts .. and if it weren’t for the war? Has anyone thought about the question, WHY in 1941, why is the war then?
        Why exactly against the USSR, the same historical Russia?
        But the evidence that by 1941, the country began to live less or less well, is mass. Like the testimonies of the German aggressors, soldiers of the Red Army, 18-25 years old, the most stubborn in battles, you wondered why this is so?
        All clowns of the Khazanov type, yes, are of little interest, although it is these clowns, from the stage, who brought a lot of dirt into people's ears and minds, in the years 80-90 ..
        Gorbachev, yes, the court is waiting for him, not earthly, so there, from above, they will ask for the role of Judah, which in its scale surpassed all examples of betrayal in the history of the world ..
    3. kalibr
      14 November 2015 17: 39
      +1
      In the preface to the article it was written that both local and central newspapers were worked through, which took more than one year of hard work. You can also go to the regional library, ask for the newspapers Pravda, Izvestia, Krasnaya Zvezda ... Read, no one forbids! I do not know what conclusions you will come to by choosing this or that topic. But you will have a "slice" of a certain time. Document!
  12. Odysseus
    Odysseus 13 November 2015 22: 18
    0
    Author of the article
    1) Anti-Advisor
    2) It simply does not understand social science, moreover, it does not understand any ideology in general, but a communist one in particular.
    The beginning of the article "Let's start with the fact that the period 1921-1927 could well be called the time of maximum democratization and freedom of speech of the Soviet press" is already shocking.
    To begin with, democracy is a form of government in which power belongs to the people. Thus, the concept of a form of government is applied to the press. There is a great secret.
    Let's continue that "freedom of the press" is a classic manipulation of consciousness. The press depends on who controls / finances the press. In a capitalist society, "freedom of the press" means the freedom of capitalists to defend and promote their interests through the press. In a socialist society, "freedom of the press" means freedom of socialist propaganda through the press.
    "What freedom of the press are you talking about? Freedom of the press for which class - for the bourgeoisie or for the proletariat? If we are talking about freedom of the press for the bourgeoisie, then we do not and will not have it as long as the dictatorship of the proletariat exists" I. Stalin.
    So there could be no abstract "freedom of the press" in Soviet newspapers by definition.
    These are elementary basics with which the author of the article, alas, is not familiar.
    The further content of the article is a set of chaotically selected facts that the author tries to comprehend with the help of concepts (for example, "world revolution"), the essence of which he understands in the same way as "freedom of the press", that is, he does not understand the word at all and which he interprets in toughly anti-Soviet spirit.
    Resume-author can be advised to leave the social sciences in a friendly manner and do what is more consistent with his inclinations and talents.
    1. Pushkar
      Pushkar 14 November 2015 00: 47
      +1
      Quote: Odyssey
      Author of the article
      1) Anti-Advisor
      2) Just do not understand ....
      Resume-author can be advised to leave the social sciences in a friendly manner and do what is more consistent with his inclinations and talents.
      Congratulations, you are undoubtedly talented
      as a writer. A beautiful parody of the editorial in Pravda. Bravo.
    2. kalibr
      14 November 2015 17: 45
      +1
      Quote: Odyssey
      Let's continue that "freedom of the press" is a classic manipulation of consciousness. The press depends on who controls / finances the press. In a capitalist society, "freedom of the press" means the freedom of capitalists to defend and promote their interests through the press. In a socialist society, "freedom of the press" means freedom of socialist propaganda through the press.
      "What freedom of the press are you talking about? Freedom of the press for which class - for the bourgeoisie or for the proletariat? If we are talking about freedom of the press for the bourgeoisie, then we do not and will not have it as long as the dictatorship of the proletariat exists" I. Stalin.

      So our "manipulation" was bad, inept and rude. And in the end? The house that was built on the sand ... collapsed!
  13. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 14 November 2015 19: 53
    0
    Dear Vyacheslav, Thanks for the answer. Maybe someday I’ll read the old issues of newspapers, but not soon. I don’t have enough of the modern I would like to. Your wonderful Japanese topic has been postponed for later. I wanted to read the whole thing without a break. Then you need to somehow structure your written and unfinished. Then I had a thought that you yourself, without knowing it, supported. If I read about weapons or equipment, I don’t write comments. In your article about the hard drive, I read that everyone can write once or twice, which I want to do by writing prose - memories of interesting people. Respectfully.
    1. kalibr
      15 November 2015 08: 51
      +1
      I am only glad when, after my articles, people come to their own decisions, try to learn something more, become more active in something. They go to libraries ... This benefits everyone: both them and society. Is not it? It is bad to mindlessly repeat words that have not been documented and look for simple solutions in everything! Burn, brand, incite ... - it was already. And they burned and branded. And how did it end? So I am only for you and will be the first to applaud you if you succeed. (In secret ... I'll write you "in a personal" how to make it even better)
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    Reptiloid 15 November 2015 11: 23
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    Now I see - the message has arrived, I think how to open it.
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    Reptiloid 15 November 2015 12: 08
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    Opened. I read it. Thank you very much for the advice. The tablet --- the tool is very sensitive and often unpredictable. When the hand has not yet touched, but has come closer.
    I kept thinking about the Soviet press, TV, PR in general. We are always lagging behind in these campaigns. It's a shame for the State. The last example for Russia is the case with our athletes. But there was so much time. Even under Ivan the Terrible, European lists were recorded, denigrating Russia. And so to this day. Our country is still "not catching up". I hope that your articles about the Soviet press will be seen by those to whom it will directly help.
    Of course, all sorts of poetic jokes will not bring the person due respect. As well as obscene fables, which I did not print HERE. And did you read my poems here? Patriotic? Such an immodest question.
    Sincerely.
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    Reptiloid 15 November 2015 22: 13
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    Looked at the covers of your books online !! Impression! Tomorrow I’ll call that store - what’s the answer?