Vladimir Putin: US missile defense system in Eastern Europe aims to neutralize Russia's nuclear potential

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Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the continued formation of the American missile defense system in Eastern Europe. As you know, for a long time, the American authorities have declared that the European missile defense system has nothing to do with deterring the Russian nuclear potential, but is aimed at protecting Europeans from the Iranian "nuclear threat." Today, when even the term “Iranian nuclear threat” looks empty (after solving the issue of the Iranian nuclear program), the Americans are building an e-missile defense system, no longer trying to find alternative arguments, are silently raising.

Vladimir Putin, who spoke at a meeting on the development of the Russian Armed Forces, quoted by the news agency TASS:

We have repeatedly pointed out that such actions are regarded as an attempt to undermine the existing parity in the field of nuclear missiles. And in fact, loosen the entire system of global and regional stability. References to the Iranian and North Korean nuclear threats only cover up true plans. And their true goal is to neutralize the strategic nuclear potential of other nuclear states, except for the United States and their allies — above all, our country, Russia.


Vladimir Putin: US missile defense system in Eastern Europe aims to neutralize Russia's nuclear potential


According to the President of the Russian Federation, the further expansion of the American missile defense system will damage the global security.

Vladimir Putin on the response steps:
We will work on the missile defense system, but at the first stage, as we have repeatedly said, we will work on attack systems that are able to overcome any missile defense systems.


Recall that the elements of ground-based missile defense (radar) Americans install on the territory of Poland and Romania.
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  1. +78
    10 November 2015 18: 43
    Whoever doubts, only the Europeans themselves do not believe and do not think that if they suddenly rake something in the first place.
    1. +56
      10 November 2015 18: 46
      ATP from the heart .. to former colleagues in Warsaw .., we do not remember ... we write ..
      1. +14
        10 November 2015 18: 48
        Ameripedam need as much as possible to catch up on the Europeans and on their own!
        To cut more greens from both yours and Euros!
        1. +50
          10 November 2015 18: 50
          Putin is a man !!!
          Speaks plain text.
          Without emotion, specifically and in the case.
          He confirmed by deeds that his words must be trusted.
          He said that our strike systems will overcome the Amer’s missile defense - that’s how it is and the network !!!
          1. -18
            10 November 2015 19: 47
            There are no problems, you need to make ONE nuclear charge that will tear the globe. And for a long time we will be safe
            1. +8
              10 November 2015 19: 58
              This idea has been disturbing since Soviet times, because it is real.
              Quote: Civil
              tear the globe
              1. +15
                10 November 2015 23: 37
                In fact, we are all children of the atomic world. The atomic world allowed our Motherland to breathe and live in peace with 1945 - several generations grew in peacetime

                We reached an unprecedented standard of living at the end of the development of the USSR, if it were not for the collapse, it would be even better now

                The strategic nuclear forces were and are still keeping the aggressor from an immediate attack. Unfortunately, Europe and the United States are insane (a good illustration of the Hollywood film Resident Evil) in their desire for war and aggression, this was proved by the first and second world wars - this is all of course explained by geopolitics - capital markets and "rulers of the world" striving for hegemony, but all equally bad as something from all this

                And now they want to "nullify" the deterrent potential of Russian nuclear weapons - of course, in order to commit unpunished aggression

                I really hope that the plans of the aggressors will not work, and we can still live in peace
                1. 0
                  15 November 2015 04: 15
                  He lived in the USSR, I still can’t understand how the country was prosli .... Not even a country, but a whole socialist world. It’s a pity that nowadays young people cannot be shown what it is like to live with free education, medicine, housing and other sectors that a person needs, how to be able to do any business of your choice and not pay big money for it. After all, they will now grow up with capitalist concepts and will believe that it should be so. I don’t remember in any commentary, I read the opinion that we lived in the USSR practically under communism - at first I was indignant, did not agree, and then I realized that it was true: all the needs (necessary) were met, and all conditions were created to realize the opportunities. I don’t know if I will live to see the advent of a new socialism (probably modernized) in the world, but I believe that this is necessary for the survival of all mankind, and I believe that it will be so.
            2. +1
              10 November 2015 20: 01
              the problem is, even 200 megatons will not do anything to the earth.
              look at the power of volcanoes. hundreds of megatons, and dust on a large area of ​​land, crop failure three or four years, but the land has not gone anywhere.
              1. +19
                10 November 2015 21: 40
                Quote: just explo
                even 200 megatons will not do anything to the earth
                Well do not tell, do not tell!
                At first, after testing the "Kuz'kina Mother" (AN602 capacity of about 58Mt), we were going to detonate 100Mt. But after the report of Kurchatov I.V. this idea was abandoned ... Do you know why by chance? -- No? At your leisure, be curious!
                Second, the in addition to the threat of "blowing" the atmosphere of the explosive, the detonation of nuclear warheads of this power class at stress points of lithospheric plates can lead to serious consequences: tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanoes awakened everywhere ...
                Third, at one time, it was considered (and calculated) the possibility of using such an explosion at a depth (in the ocean) to launch an uncontrolled thermonuclear fusion reaction of deuterium / tritium. After that, our Blue Planet turned into a supernova.
                And you say "nothing will happen" ...
            3. +23
              10 November 2015 21: 07
              Quote: Civil
              need to make ONE nuclear charge that will tear the globe
              Vadim! And what is it that pulls YOURSELF to KEEP all the time!? Instead of burning a house, it might be better to get rid of cockroaches anyway?
              1. +20
                10 November 2015 22: 33
                Do obvious oligophrenics really lack reason that:
                DISTANCES only from Kaliningrad to the most rabid capitals of the countries of the Geysouz:
                to London in a straight line about 1400 km;
                to Paris - 1400 km;
                to Berlin - 500 km;
                Rome - 1500 km;
                To the rest of the vshivot too hand to hand, that is, within reach of "Caliber"!
                A "Caliber" can be installed on anything, even on the deck of the yacht Abramovich!
                You don’t need to spend even "Caliber" on sproeaters .... They themselves will drown in their own feces from fear!
                1. +5
                  10 November 2015 23: 14
                  Vladimir Pozlnyakov (11) SU Today, 22:33 ↑
                  Do obvious oligophrenics really lack reason that:
                  DISTANCES only from Kaliningrad to the most rabid capitals of the Geisoyuz countries: "
                  .And it's hard to believe that the Iskandr has a range of only 500 km .. probably -2500 km .. ?? laughing
                  (Maximum range of hitting a target:
                  500 km Iskander-K (2000 km with the R-500 cruise missile)
                  1. +3
                    11 November 2015 11: 33
                    Yes "Iskander" will potentially fly over 2000 km, but there is also a "Caliber" sea and airborne. Their range of up to 3000 km has already been tested, this is with a conventional b / h, and with nuclear warheads up to 4000 km. A small summary. Launching "Calibers" from the Baltic and Black Seas, plus from the air (without entering NATO's air defense zones) from different points, plus "Iskander" and where will the whole gamerope be? I think in full f ... ne. And those who deploy American missile defense elements and nuclear weapons, in the first place.
                  2. 0
                    12 November 2015 19: 15
                    + 1, no more than no less
                2. 0
                  12 November 2015 19: 13
                  You have four of them (and all edro ???? do not grind nonsense, proceed from reality
                3. 0
                  15 November 2015 04: 02
                  I think that just all these Baltic limitrophes and Poland are sure, knowing Russia from the past from the USSR, that there will be no war, and, therefore, the dough can be ripped out of the United States for deploying missile defense elements, so to speak, for free. However, they clearly forgot that the "freebie" sometimes "goes sideways". However, they probably quite rightly believe that if there is an atomic war, it will already be "no difference" who will die first and who will last longer.
              2. +1
                12 November 2015 06: 53
                Yes, you are certainly right, but unfortunately getting rid of these cockroaches will be sooooo expensive and half of the house will burn anyway! Sorry
            4. +8
              10 November 2015 22: 02
              Quote: Civil
              There are no problems, you need to make ONE nuclear charge that will tear the globe. And for a long time we will be safe

              And why didn’t you please the ball?)))))
              It is enough to burn the United States to hell with England to the heap, and the whole world will live in peace and harmony at least 300 years, until the birth of the new United States, if they are not aborted by those who have a good memory))).
              1. +30
                10 November 2015 23: 11
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                And why didn’t you please the ball?)))))

                I don’t know why they didn’t please the ball ... I like it. I look at this photo and want to become an astronaut in my childhood ... laughing
                1. +6
                  10 November 2015 23: 45
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  I like. I look at this photo and want to become an astronaut in my childhood.

                  From the heart .... +++ laughing
            5. +1
              11 November 2015 00: 51
              Quote: Civil
              There are no problems, you need to make ONE nuclear charge that will tear the globe. And for a long time we will be safe

              Why reinvent the wheel? It has long been proven that if a country with nuclear weapons explodes it on its territory (everything), then it will not seem enough to the whole planet, up to a change in the Earth's tilt angle, rotation speed and orbit change.
            6. 0
              11 November 2015 04: 55
              ..... if you say it .... then you’re definitely in ... security .... worse ... because already ... will not be .... bully
          2. +4
            10 November 2015 20: 10
            Why hide? Here either Pan or disappeared.
          3. +5
            10 November 2015 20: 35
            In vain .. Worse ABM only liberals in the country. And in the government itself.
          4. -14
            10 November 2015 21: 00
            There is even worse PRO.Putinsky environment ..
          5. -22
            10 November 2015 21: 08
            Quote: Temples
            Putin is a man !!!

            And he passed. His face is tired, age ...
            1. +6
              11 November 2015 07: 04
              Quote: zennon
              Quote: Temples
              Putin is a man !!!

              And he passed. His face is tired, age ...


              May God all of us at his age look, think and be in such excellent physical shape.
            2. 0
              19 November 2015 05: 58
              And what? I look even worse ... wink For another term, if health allows.
          6. +11
            10 November 2015 21: 49
            Quote: Temples
            Putin is a man !!!
            Speaks plain text.
            Without emotion, specifically and in the case.
            He confirmed by deeds that his words must be trusted.
            He said that our strike systems will overcome the Amer’s missile defense - that’s how it is and the network !!!

            Of course the man is real, but one is not a warrior in the field, it is necessary to support our Man.
          7. +2
            10 November 2015 22: 01
            Sorry, he’s saying for the 101st time ... He also spoke to Yanukovych and the piglet ... In plain text ... We need not speak, but act ... While Russia is defending ... GDP is understandably harder at times than a tagged bitch .. . Therefore, we are waiting, and therefore we hope ...
            1. +5
              10 November 2015 23: 14
              Quote: victor
              GDP is understandably harder at times than a labeled bitch ... That's why we are waiting, that's why we hope ...

              Duc, the stump is clear - to build something is always more difficult than to break and sell what others have built ... That's why we hope. Hope dies last.
              1. -7
                10 November 2015 23: 51
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Hope dies last.

                ... Vera said, killing Love ...
          8. +4
            10 November 2015 23: 06
            Quote: Temples
            Putin is a man !!!
            Speaks plain text.
            Without emotion, specifically and in the case.

            To me, too, Openel's secret. It was not clear right away, as soon as the Americans announced that the missile defense system in Poland was directed against Iran? Was it necessary to look at Ukraine, "Arab Spring" and other rubbish so that everyone had a clear knowledge of geography?
        2. +1
          11 November 2015 04: 57
          The thing is ... the PSS ... they want to strike ... from Europe ... thereby substituting them under ... otvetku.I supposedly ... yourself ... out of business ... bully
        3. +1
          11 November 2015 08: 34
          Quote: Baikonur
          Ameripedam

          wassat need to remember)) and then 3,14ndos yes 3.14ndosy
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      3. +34
        10 November 2015 19: 15
        Greetings.
        For a long time it’s not written down (probably the bond doesn’t want paper).
        And unsubscribe to ex-brothers for their renegade !!!

        P.S. RUSSIANS have a nice saying
        "Otoliutsya for a cat, a mouse's tears"
        Ouz then empty ex bro
        peniaout for sebia !!!
        1. +7
          10 November 2015 20: 01
          Quote: marinier
          Greetings.

          Dear Marinir, maybe this link will help you:
          http://www.ulitka.com/%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82_%D0%B8_%D
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          %81%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F_windows-13396.html

          There about the Russification of bourgeois computers. laughing
          1. 0
            10 November 2015 20: 22
            Is it worth throwing beads? A person’s chip is this. He understands everything, but can write with difficulty. I have never heard of translators.
          2. +24
            10 November 2015 20: 40
            Good day, Mr. Lobanov!
            Information to the mind.
            In my family there were no merchants, usury, and tax
            filibusters!
            I am a hereditary military man.
            My Rod enters de Waal. All hereditary officers !!!
            Those who gave their lives for Faith to the Crown !!!

            P.S. 4ES IMEU.
            1. +8
              10 November 2015 21: 51
              In no case did not want to offend you, on the contrary - I wanted to help. At this link you will find many ways how not to suffer from transliteration, but simply to write in your native language. For the Crown ... laughing
            2. -9
              10 November 2015 22: 17
              And from Christ and Priam weakly ??? My family goes back to Adam and Eve himself - but I doubt very much, because I’m not a Jew ... By the way, your ancestors first made descendants and then died ??? And the last question, as I understand it , you (YOU) died in the battle with Putin (he has a sword-gun longer) ... You, dead ... Putin left an inheritance (in the sense of children, not a cut off organ) ??? Lives and a crown to lice - i.e. to the crown ... ATP !!! BOUGHT, HOW LIKE watching SOVIET COMEDIES !!! +++
              1. -4
                11 November 2015 00: 09
                Even fewer mercenary-usurers, but simply Dutch-Dutch officers escaped ... Especially considering the feat of the deceased in the fight against Putney. Or it’s just a generous Netherlands ... By the way, this is shit ... the country was called the Nieders, and they always called themselves Dutch. ... It seems like they haven’t smoked yet ... Even in football - Niderzas ... never a single commentator has ever called - always - DUTCHES ... Smoked.
            3. 0
              10 November 2015 22: 40
              And "ZIZNI" was given for whose crown in the THIRD order? Belgian, Aglitsk, Swiss ....?
          3. +6
            10 November 2015 21: 58
            Quote: Alexey Lobanov
            There about Russification of bourgeois computers



            Um ... Anthony Mariner is an officer in the Netherlands Navy ... A man is trained in Russian ... Maybe a friend, maybe ... hmm, intelligence officer studying the language of a potential enemy ...

            But his colloquial speech is improving every day ...
            1. +1
              10 November 2015 22: 10
              But his colloquial speech is improving every day ...

              It improves simply with fabulous speed.
              1. +2
                10 November 2015 22: 49
                Guys, believe me, Fool is driving!
            2. +2
              10 November 2015 22: 47
              I had to meet a curator on a joint topic with the Canadians in one of the All-Russian Research Institute of the North-East! A clown named Bill Light, after "a few glasses of tea," when pressed, confessed that he had graduated from an intelligence school in Pennsylvania. For the ability to the Russian language was appointed the curator of ecology for a joint venture with Canada!
            3. +1
              10 November 2015 22: 57
              Sorry, brother, of course he seems like a fine fellow ... But I used translators ... I still managed to do so, so we had a German acquaintance, spoke Russian with a subtle accent ... We always praised her for this, and especially penetrating understanding (like me and the guys from the institutes) -How it was hard to get rid of the accent ... But humor - ...................... We did not use sexual humor is Sovdep upbringing, purely industrial-household ... But to understand several meanings of the word in the sense ... SENSE of the spoken phrase ... It really needs to be grown in an environment where half-hints are understood ... By the way, with Italians, and even then they crossed paths with the Poles ... And, as Zadorny used to say, without our defectors (mostly Jews), they couldn’t decrypt ...
      4. +10
        10 November 2015 19: 25
        Yes, we don’t even write it down, but simply enter them into the program as targets ...
        1. +5
          10 November 2015 19: 40
          Quote: Jovanni
          Yes, we don’t even write it down, but simply enter them into the program as targets ...

          Note: not from evil, but forced ...
        2. +2
          10 November 2015 22: 00
          Quote: Jovanni
          enter to the program them as goals ..


          Hmm ... in flight missionhowever ... So it’s really called ...
      5. +3
        11 November 2015 07: 26
        Quote: severniy
        ATP from the heart .. to former colleagues in Warsaw .., we do not remember ... we write ..


        The experience of two domestic wars shows that as soon as Russian troops cross the western border, they have a bunch of allies.
      6. 0
        12 November 2015 06: 54
        Quote: severniy
        we don’t remember ... we write ..

        And we map potential targets for our "birds" soldier
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    3. +22
      10 November 2015 18: 49
      Europeans themselves do not believe and do not think


      Yes, they do not care. If only they would not cut the social and allow anal pleasures.
    4. +8
      10 November 2015 18: 54
      Quote: cniza
      Whoever doubts, only the Europeans themselves do not believe and do not think that if they suddenly rake something in the first place.

      US Europe preparing to sacrifice. And interestingly, in several ways.
      1. +10
        10 November 2015 19: 01
        Quote: Wend
        US Europe preparing to sacrifice. And interestingly, in several ways.

        And Europe does not seem to mind:
        "Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! .. I'm glad to be deceived myself!" A.S. Pushkin.
    5. +26
      10 November 2015 19: 08
      Good time of the day, yep!
      We believe even how we believe 4to after RUSSIA the answer will burst!
      Moreover, there is no doubt about where 4ut-4th is RUSSIAN
      The nuclear forces will collapse there immediately!
      Therefore, we are protesting like a brain, but it’s a matter of voice,
      crying in the wilderness. But soberly thought, asia Europe, will go
      help from you !!!!!!!

      P.S. Uz deeply rooted deeply rooted lucifer.
    6. +3
      10 November 2015 21: 15
      Quote: cniza
      Whoever doubts, only the Europeans themselves do not believe and do not think that if they suddenly rake something in the first place.
      "If anything" with the use of nuclear weapons, then "ogrebut" generally everything. And if not, then the missile defense positions will be destroyed by high-precision weapons or RDG "without noise and dust", and then ... how will it be taken out ... soldier
    7. 0
      10 November 2015 22: 17
      US missile defense system in Eastern Europe aims to neutralize Russia's nuclear potential

      This has long been known, despite the "assurances" of the mattress. And now the excuse has disappeared (Iranian threat! belay ) What to do, what to do ??! belay Like what? CUIF! laughing Poker Face.
      Yes, it was not there! Noodles no longer rolls. am
      1. 0
        11 November 2015 23: 19
        "According to the President of the Russian Federation, further expansion of the American missile defense system will damage world security."
        Let the "whisperers" be afraid, and our President immediately and directly declares this.
    8. +1
      11 November 2015 05: 17
      They would often watch the chronicle of Hiroshima and pray that the mind would return to them not too late.
    9. 0
      11 November 2015 19: 29
      And the Americans, who want to sit out overseas, as in the old years, but to hell succeed, the first to rake America on its territory.
    10. -2
      12 November 2015 15: 14
      The American missile defense system in Poland and Romania is not able to destroy missiles from the Urals towards America. can only destroy missiles in the direction of Europe. Is Putin afraid that Russia will have less opportunity to attack Europe? This is not the case. Russia can make an attack on Europe with cruise missiles. Putin is not afraid of any American missiles. He fears that American bases in Poland and Romania are blocking the expansion of Russian influence in Central Europe. Russia, although today even without US bases, it is too weak to dominate this part of Europe but it is very emotional because it closes the path for Russian imperialism in the future. How to live if the Americans block the imperial spirit of Russia?
  2. +9
    10 November 2015 18: 44
    Have the Americans commented on the GDP statement yet? Do not remember about Iran and North Korea? Or shake off dust from an old record and get ready to scroll it on the air?
    1. +5
      10 November 2015 18: 52
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Have the Americans commented on the GDP statement yet? Do not remember about Iran and North Korea? Or shake off dust from an old record and get ready to scroll it on the air?


      By our morning their squeaks and squeals will erupt ... The aggressor Russia threatens us, Europe give me money, we will put more rockets for you ...
      1. +1
        10 November 2015 20: 49
        Quote: cniza

        By our morning their squeaks and squeals will erupt ... The aggressor Russia threatens us, Europe give me money, we will put more rockets for you ...

        I will add to your phrase "... so that not a single retaliation strike was struck on our (American) territory."
        Rejoice Europe, host American weapons and the Yankees have prepared for you an honorable mission to die for America!
  3. +3
    10 November 2015 18: 44
    We will work on strike systems that are able to overcome any missile defense system.
    So all missile defense will turn into zilch. "Caliber" has already made me nervous
  4. +8
    10 November 2015 18: 45
    Eastern Europe is digging its own grave. By deploying the American missile defense system, it becomes the first "target" in the event of an armed conflict.
    1. -23
      10 November 2015 18: 51
      Quote: alexey bukin
      Eastern Europe is digging its own grave. By deploying the American missile defense system, it becomes the first "target" in the event of an armed conflict.

      And Nitsche so that more recently it was our territory?))) It turns out on their own and fucking ... And who are we doing that?

      So, Putin seems to have said everything correctly ... But I didn’t understand, did he open his eyes to anyone?)))))))))))))

      Can someone drown in the subject and clarify for whom the statement was made?

      Cons, as I understand it, to Putin, since there is essentially nothing to answer))))
      1. +9
        10 November 2015 19: 24
        Quote: Hardy
        And Nitsche so that more recently it was our territory?

        I think that "niche." If there are elements of an enemy ... oh, American missile defense system, then for it (for the territory) it is not only harmful, but also useful. Weeding, so to speak.
        Quote: Hardy
        for whom was the statement made?

        Isn't it clear? For everyone and for you as well. Even if you looked at this issue with wide-open eyes, it's time to call a spade a spade, without diplomatic politeness. Moreover, the "partners" do not bother themselves with this very politeness.
      2. +3
        10 November 2015 19: 27
        Before the G-20, preventive conversations for sworn enemies. We all knew so.
        Only this missile defense will not work, it is a waste of money against us, for our own illusions - this is it.
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      4. +1
        10 November 2015 19: 47
        Quote: Hardy
        Can someone drown in the subject and clarify for whom the statement was made?

        Cons, as I understand it, to Putin, since there is essentially nothing to answer))))

        I understood everything correctly ...
        I doubt that someone will explain something to you. Trolls are not susceptible to explanation.
      5. +2
        10 November 2015 22: 15
        Never watch American comedies, then don't go stupid! And minus do not get!
      6. +1
        10 November 2015 23: 57
        Quote: Hardy
        But I didn’t understand, was he opening his eyes to whom?))))))))))))))

        And how do you understand if you are the one to whom you have not opened your eyes. Therefore, you are carrying a blizzard, a blind man. (On * you * intentionally).
      7. 0
        11 November 2015 06: 41
        Quote: Hardy
        Cons, as I understand Putin,

        DS Mania grandiosa.
    2. +2
      10 November 2015 19: 44
      Quote: Alexey Bukin
      she becomes the first "target"

      Buffer zone in the style of the lunar landscape ....... I can already hear the rustling packaging of cookies, guys, let's, like in the 40s !!!!
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  6. +29
    10 November 2015 18: 48
    And in general, we live so close and in a neighborly joke:
    - Where did you serve?
    - Not far from London.
    - Wow! But where exactly?
    - In Kaliningrad.
    - Nothing is "close" ...
    - Well, I don’t know, the company commander said that the flight time is 15 minutes ...
    1. +6
      10 November 2015 19: 06
      Want to get to America? Go to serve in the Strategic Rocket Forces.
      lol
      1. +6
        10 November 2015 20: 01
        Dear "rookie" for the invitation, thank you ... anecdote about flights:

        A Georgian drags a ram onto a plane. The pilot asks him:
        - Why are you dragging a ram?
        - What ram? She studies at my Moscow State University. And this is a souvenir.
        1. +5
          10 November 2015 20: 53
          Quote: morpod
          She studies at my Moscow State University. And this is a souvenir.

          I heard a little differently.
          ...- This is not a ram, this is a diploma. She studies at the institute.
          lol
          1. +2
            10 November 2015 21: 19
            Great, BUT now the prices have gone up! Therefore, the "ram" is just a suvEnyr!
    2. +2
      10 November 2015 22: 44
      Ay, thank you sincerely and hello from Kaliningrad!))
      1. 0
        11 November 2015 19: 19
        And lastly, son, commandment in the navy:
        "Keep watch carefully!"

        P / S ... the main thing is not to splash!
  7. +4
    10 November 2015 18: 49
    well, that "cards were opened"
  8. +6
    10 November 2015 18: 51
    Poland and Romania are extra countries on the planet. Start with them, if that.
  9. +3
    10 November 2015 18: 53
    For a long time it was necessary to poke these partners.
  10. +9
    10 November 2015 18: 54
    If the United States has actually unilaterally withdrawn from the ABM restriction treaty, then why is Russia still operating under this treaty? It may be time to propose the creation of missile defense systems, China, India, Iran, the BRICS countries. I am sure of those who want to deploy a modern missile defense umbrella over their country will be a lot from simple deliveries of S-400 to joint development of strategic systems of missile defense and missile defense. This is the only option to force Americans to abide by the treaty and refuse to deploy missile defense systems near Moscow. Otherwise, you will have to transfer the capital beyond the Urals.
  11. +10
    10 November 2015 18: 57
    It's a pity of course the money spent on this.
    But in war, as in war! We, Russia, decide against whom we are friends.
    By our standards a village in the outback is three hundred years old or more. Our churches are albeit time-worn. They stand, waiting for their parishioners. And many waited.
    And the thieves community of the USA only, only got out of the cradle of history and has already ruined everything that is possible. It’s time to swaddle it again, or to put it across the bench, and pour hot. negative hi
  12. +5
    10 November 2015 18: 58
    "What a melancholy! The fool is cherished, the fool is carefully nurtured, the fool is fertilized, and there is no end in sight ...
    ... Some kind of curse on humanity, some kind of terrible succession of threats and dangers. Imperialism, fascism ... Tens of millions of ruined lives, distorted destinies ... Including millions of dead fools, good and evil, guilty and innocent ... ".
    (A. and B. Strugatsky, "Predatory Things of the Century") - 1964 (!) Year.
    Well, will these people become wiser? They run openly. It’s already written in plain text when they hit first. NOT, collective stupidity is booming.
    1. 0
      10 November 2015 19: 18
      Quote: iliitch

      Well, will these people become wiser? They run openly. It’s already written in plain text when they hit first. NOT, collective stupidity is booming.

      And when will we grow wiser? ))) We are here even reading the Strugaki, but do not understand what we are reading.

      For whom did Putin make a warning? For Eastern Europe? So they prepared it for slaughter specifically so that no one was left, who else remembers about the times from the USSR. Against whom is our army against if all states, like Ukraine, are captured? The USA is also not independent. Well, is this a bunch of obese blacks really a threat to us?)))

      And to transnational business, any war is only a plus. They are not even afraid of local nuclear and are pushing it hard. And if we bomb the US, they will only scratch their hands, write off the bucks for this, and begin to build a new money pyramid. They are everywhere and no where. They do not care for any casualties and even ecological disaster. Yes, they will agree to rule from the bunker, if only not to lose power ...

      Not tired of fighting with windmills to the joy of the rich?)))))))))
      1. +1
        10 November 2015 19: 26
        Well, not everyone can stand on a smart guy. Where are all siblings?
      2. -1
        11 November 2015 06: 47
        Quote: Hardy
        And when will we grow wiser? ))) We are here even reading the Strugaki, but do not understand what we are reading.

        So start with yourself. Your diagnosis is placed above.
  13. +7
    10 November 2015 19: 02
    Well, something like this!
  14. +3
    10 November 2015 19: 04
    And the eternal battle-peace we only dream of.
    1. 0
      11 November 2015 17: 07
      In such a turbulent time, I am glad that I do not live in Moscow.
  15. +5
    10 November 2015 19: 05
    Russia should not put itself in the position of a defender. We are a state that does not kneel in front of the United States.
    1. +5
      10 November 2015 19: 13
      We can only say if someone needs:
    2. +3
      10 November 2015 19: 16
      Quote: BOB044
      Russia should not put itself in the position of a defender. We are a state that does not kneel in front of the United States.


      It didn’t stand, much less will never stand.
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  16. Stepan stepanovich
    +3
    10 November 2015 19: 12
    The next step, the agreement on medium-range missiles in the toilet!
    Or plutonium sold to all the chief officers7
  17. +1
    10 November 2015 19: 12
    We must prepare an adequate answer!
  18. +2
    10 November 2015 19: 12
    Quote: Hardy
    Can someone drown in the subject and clarify for whom the statement was made?

    For the crowd. Once again. you have to maintain the image of the enemy among the people. Otherwise, he will begin to ask questions, uncomfortable questions, to which the leadership has no answers. Only common words repeated dozens of times ...

    Quote: Vita VKO
    If the United States has actually unilaterally withdrawn from the ABM restriction treaty, then why is Russia still operating under this treaty?

    Why? Yes, everything is very simple. If we were to declare now that we would withdraw from the ABM treaty there would not be such a trump card as EuroPRO, there wouldn’t be a bogey threat.

    Quote: Vita VKO
    It may be time to propose the creation of missile defense systems, China, India, Iran, the BRICS countries. I am sure of those who want to deploy a modern missile defense umbrella over their country will be a lot from simple deliveries of S-400 to joint development of strategic systems of missile defense and missile defense.

    Well, you all put in one bottle. Are you sure that India or Iran wants to have an umbrella in the form of a Russian missile defense? Does this Russian missile defense tool exist? Well, PRO BRICS - generally hung. Cover with a missile defense umbrella not only Russia and China, but also Brazil and South Africa .... The S-400 is not at all involved. She will be able to protect exclusively from missiles in China, India and Iran. We create a missile defense system where the funds will protect against missiles of partners, and not the enemy ... Very wisely


    Quote: Vita VKO
    This is the only option to force Americans to abide by the treaty and refuse to deploy missile defense systems near Moscow. Otherwise, you will have to transfer the capital beyond the Urals.

    This is not an option at all. Moreover, EuroPro for Russian strategic nuclear forces is like a dead poultice
    1. +5
      10 November 2015 21: 20
      Quote: Old26
      This is not an option at all. Moreover, EuroPro for Russian strategic nuclear forces is like a dead poultice

      We have already discussed this topic. Yes, they can’t right now. But who said that in the plans of the USA now or tomorrow to put nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation? In this case, the main thing for Americans is to gain a foothold near the borders of the Russian Federation and build missile defense bases. What missiles will be there in 10 years, we do not know. But this is built only against Russia. Iran is completely out of business here.
      1. +4
        10 November 2015 22: 14
        Quote: Old26
        For the crowd. Once again. you have to support the image of the enemy among the people
        Firstly, that statement is neither the first nor the last. Secondly, it is a double-edged sword, on the one hand to reassure the people, on the other, to make it clear to European politicians that they will soon become priority goals. But in my opinion, complacency is a dangerous illusion in this matter. The United States has more than once proved that without hesitation they will hide themselves with a living European shield to strike at Russia.
        Quote: dvina71
        If we were to declare now that we would withdraw from the ABM treaty there would not be such a trump card as EuroPro

        Russian politicians have been waving this "trump card" for three years now, and what's the point? The next step of American baboons in accordance with the concept of a global lightning strike on the right of the mighty will be the deployment of nuclear weapons in space. And the "trump card" of the European missile defense system will become simply soft paper, which they are already wiping with.
        Quote: Old26
        Well, you all put in one bottle.

        Exactly. Only in one bottle of the country of NATO, and in the other the rest of the world. Although even countries that openly pursue their policies in the interests of the United States do not feel safe. What can we say about those who are trying to pursue a policy in their interests, for example, to abandon $ in foreign trade operations. This is worse for the United States, with its gigantic national debt, than terrorism hundreds of times. It is not surprising that such countries are becoming more and more and they all want to have at least some sort of protection from the aerospace threat from NATO.
        Quote: Old26
        Moreover, EuroPro for Russian strategic nuclear forces is like a dead poultice

        Are you 100% sure that only anti-missiles will be in the mines? Fortunately, there are very few naive and gullible people among military specialists, as a rule, these qualities disappear in the cadet period. From the very beginning it was clear that EUROPRO was a screen to increase the likelihood of a first unpunished strike. And this probability increases at times.
  19. +2
    10 November 2015 19: 14
    Stupid and arrogant because there is no one nobler than a Russian soldier
  20. +2
    10 November 2015 19: 16
    How high the price of possible failure shows us history. It was on the basis of the frankly unshiny beginning of the war with Finland for the USSR that Hitler came to the conclusion about the “colossus with feet of clay”, which cost us 27 millions of people who died.
  21. +4
    10 November 2015 19: 17
    The Russian leadership should begin negotiations with China and Iran on the modernization of their rocket engines. And that’s all. Only negotiations. And nothing more. The very prospect that China will be able to upgrade its new strategic rocket launchers with the help of new rocket engines to a level that can easily overcome the missile defense of the United States and Japan will frighten the Americans. Russia can get sooooo big benefit from this.
    First, the United States. To prevent such a development of events, the United States will be ready to "merge" both Ukraine and its allies in Syria.
    Secondly, missile defense. They will also "merge" their missile defense program in Europe.
    Thirdly, China. Russian liberalists as soon as they do not comment on gas deals with China. In one they are right. Namely, that China, using sanctions against Russia, requires more favorable prices and conditions. But as soon as they face the possibility of upgrading their missile arsenal, then energy prices will instantly increase. And this will already be the demand and condition of the Russian side.
    So Russian analysts just need to think through this option.
    The US is already economically inferior to China. But if China gets such rocket technology, then China will be able to create the same nuclear triad as the United States and Russia have.
  22. +2
    10 November 2015 19: 19
    He said everything correctly (in diplomatic language). Only it was necessary to more openly and clearly say (for the absolutely stupid) that these strike systems would continue to be aimed against those states from which the threat came for us, that is, in whose territory not only nuclear weapons were deployed, but also missile defense systems.
  23. +6
    10 November 2015 19: 21
    DEAR FORUM, SORRY NOT FOR THE THEME? SOON A NEW YEAR! IT IS TIME FOR A NEW CALENDAR !!! BY THE PAST ALMOST EVERYTHING MATTER!
    1. -3
      10 November 2015 19: 44
      Quote: 1961NNN
      BY THE PAST, ALMOST EVERYTHING MATCHED!

      Yeah! Only Shoigu need to change places with Rogozin. And so well done! Feels - Patriots of Russia!!!
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  25. -6
    10 November 2015 19: 22
    We will work on a missile defense system

    This is a long time! In the meantime, only words.
    C400 and the notorious C500 are not a means to combat strategic missiles. And that means that today, alas, we are absolutely defenseless.
    1. +3
      10 November 2015 19: 55
      C400 and the notorious C500 are not a means to combat strategic missiles. And that means that today, alas, we are absolutely defenseless

      You might think the US has protection !? from SNF today, there is no protection ...
  26. +2
    10 November 2015 19: 25
    Interestingly, medium or shorter range missiles can help from this exceptional missile defense.
    1. +2
      10 November 2015 20: 00
      They can. And Caliber can and Iskander can.
      1. +1
        10 November 2015 20: 20
        But the INF Treaty sounds worse, well, at the philistine level.
        1. +1
          10 November 2015 21: 58
          Well, we don’t need to scare anyone? The result is important to us.
  27. +1
    10 November 2015 19: 28
    Exhortations do not work on an adversary. It is necessary, without advertising the process, to prepare for the complete debunking of the universal monster. He has long understood what "Kuz'k's mother" is, but he wants to feel its effect on himself. No problem.
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  29. +3
    10 November 2015 19: 31
    But had anyone else doubted this before? America has long prepared behavior for cases if no one had guessed and for cases if everyone had guessed. There is no limit to the Borzoi’s called, it’s only necessary to beat painfully! In another way, you only fend off all the time or say in Russian: who didn’t group in time, he lost. But this position may someday not bring to good ..
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  31. +2
    10 November 2015 19: 32
    The Americans are adding fuel to the fire, and Europe silently looks at it. Do they not understand that they are not inaccessible? Or is the dependence of Europolitiks on the SGA so great that they are ready to leave their country in the midst of World War II for the interests of a power located on the other side of the Earth?
    1. +4
      10 November 2015 19: 48
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      The Americans are adding fuel to the fire, and Europe silently looks at it. Do they not understand that they are not inaccessible? Or is the dependence of Europolitiks on the SGA so great that they are ready to leave their country in the midst of World War II for the interests of a power located on the other side of the Earth?

      And in 90 we watched silently how the country was robbed and killed?)))) We also needed to be killed for this?))))
      Nitsche so that we ourselves framed Europe by abandoning our ideals and selling the country for a couple of cents?

      Withdrew their bases from Europe, allowed to send troops to transnational business, and now are they threatening them for this?))))))))

      But what, those who surrendered our country and Europe, are they really punished? No, everyone is sitting either in or near the government. With dough and chocolate ...

      Now the last step is being completed. One part of the former Warsaw Pact will fight with another))))
      Dreams of international imperialism come true))))

      Come on, inflate each other))) We’ll also clash with the USA, otherwise they don’t know how to get rid of the buck)))

      Oh Russia ... with its eternal misfortunes. Although the roads are a little tweaked, but only the roads ...
      1. +6
        10 November 2015 20: 20
        Hardy, so what do you suggest? Again "peace, friendship, gum" with America? Or something else? Your comments are trolling.
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  32. +4
    10 November 2015 19: 33
    well, like that am
  33. +1
    10 November 2015 19: 58
    If necessary, we will get them through the North Pole.
  34. +3
    10 November 2015 20: 03
    Quote: tnk1969
    The Russian leadership should begin negotiations with China and Iran on the modernization of their rocket engines. And that’s all. Only negotiations. And nothing more. The very prospect that China will be able to upgrade its new strategic rocket launchers with the help of new rocket engines to a level that can easily overcome the missile defense of the United States and Japan will frighten the Americans.

    None of the existing missile defense systems IS ABLE to contain the nuclear strike of countries with significant missile capabilities. Japan's missile defense is not at all involved. She is not able to bring down any of the Chinese intermediate and intercontinental range missiles. Only certain types of North Korean missiles

    Antimissiles deployed in a missile defense system are also capable of shooting down ICBMs, but the system has not yet been finalized, the probability of hitting a target is such that for 100% destruction of a "simple target", namely a warhead, up to 4 antimissiles are needed. If the target is complex, namely with MIRV and KSP ABM, the number of such interceptors increases to 17. Based on the fact that there are about 36 of them deployed in the missile defense system, the maximum that they can shoot down is 2 ICBMs (Russia or China - no difference), and here is the entire potential of North Korean long-range missiles, anti-missile missiles deployed in the PPR and in the VPR will be able to multiply by zero. That is, already now, this missile defense system in two regions is not capable of intercepting Russian or Chinese missiles.

    Quote: tnk1969
    From this Russia can get sooooo big benefit. First of all, the United States. To prevent such a development of events, the United States will be ready to "merge" both Ukraine and its allies in Syria. Secondly, the missile defense system. They will also "merge" their missile defense program in Europe. Thirdly, China. Russian liberals as soon as not comment on trade deals with China on gas. In one thing they are right. Namely, China, using the sanctions against Russia, demands more favorable prices and conditions for itself.

    we will leave China and gas contracts out of brackets. These bugs will not lead to the United States merging Ukraine. And so they will soon merge it without these steps. The threat to modernize the engines of the PRC and India will not lead to their merging their allies in Syria. If necessary, they will merge without this threat ... Well, they will not close missile defense either. They still need to cover the NATO flank, Iran is gaining strength as a missile power, and the current Euro-missile defense system is designed to intercept Iran’s missiles and there’s nothing more. This applies to the American, the French-Italian-British segment ...
  35. +4
    10 November 2015 20: 04
    Quote: tnk1969
    But as soon as they face the possibility of upgrading their missile arsenal, then energy prices will instantly increase. And this will already be the demand and condition of the Russian side. So Russian analysts just need to think through this option. The US is already economically inferior to China. But if China gets such rocket technology, then China will be able to create the same nuclear triad as the United States and Russia have.

    Surely thought and rejected as fantastic. I do not understand some writers. They are outraged by the possibility of transferring the S-400 to India and China, then they immediately offer to modernize their strategic nuclear forces.
    As for such a triad as that of Russia and the USA, China is very, very far from it. The submarine missile carriers in their infancy and the missile launch range are far from the same as those of Russia and the USA, the number of missile carriers can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Well, the main strategic bomber in China is our TU-16, which is far from even the ancient B-52 ...

    Quote: vitaliy.rnd
    If necessary, we will get them through the North Pole

    And they??? They don’t get us ??? How tired of such statements for the sake of pluses
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  37. -2
    10 November 2015 20: 17
    Our Gauges bend all the NATO Air Defense / Missile Defense Systems, Our Ballistic Missiles do the same, what's the point of building them? I don’t understand! Complacency or what?
  38. -3
    10 November 2015 20: 21
    Quote: Santjaga_Garka
    Our Gauges bend all the NATO Air Defense / Missile Defense Systems,

    Our CALIBERS are lost by the NATO air defense system at the expense of times. Stop repeating the ravings that missile defense systems against cruise missiles
  39. +2
    10 November 2015 20: 23
    It’s bad that the railway complexes were cut. Thanks humpback angry
    1. +2
      10 November 2015 20: 42
      A practical decision has already been made to resume train complexes at a new, much higher technical and technological level ... NATO is already moaning about this ... bully
    2. +1
      10 November 2015 22: 59
      No! BZDRK REVIVAL! Just do not advertise too much!
      1. +1
        11 November 2015 00: 04
        Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        No! BZDRK REVIVAL! Just do not advertise too much!

        Why not advertise? It has already been announced that the first will go in 2019. For everything about everything for three years with a tail. So what are waiting, s)))
        By the way, the mattresses are anxiously worried - they are waiting)))
  40. +1
    10 November 2015 20: 33
    Quote: cniza
    Whoever doubts, only the Europeans themselves do not believe and do not think that if they suddenly rake something in the first place.

    Yes, they all understand, they don’t understand only one thing - they won’t be able to stand aside, innocently drawing a finger on the sand ...
  41. +1
    10 November 2015 20: 37
    Quote: SPACE
    July 9, 2013 23:04 | "Foreign media: power games of Vladimir Putin - Russia is increasing its missile defense"

    The main problems of missile defense are 1. Nuclear weapons destruction method. 2. Aiming accuracy. Everything else depends on it. The Americans opted for kinetic interception, plus this method in a low mass of the strike unit, which requires a lighter-mass missile of the Ijes and Thaad type. But on the other hand, you need the highest accuracy of interception "in ten" centimeter back and forth is already a miss. In other words, the Americans relied on high-tech, modern radars and powerful computing technology. During the period of tracking the BB, the radar transmits data to a powerful computer that instantly calculates the entire flight trajectory of the BB and, knowing the parameters of its anti-missile, brings it to the meeting point with constant correction, plus the infrared guidance system of the unit itself. This is the ideal! And not ideal? Each warhead, even an ordinary one (not maneuvering), has its own mass, speed and shape, the parameters of a non-linear change in speed depend on these data, during the flight and the trajectory itself. And if you do not know these parameters in advance, then you must, as they say, calculate them on the fly, i.e. the computer cannot calculate the lead point in advance, only approximately, and already in the process bring it up. That is why it is very important to hide the flight parameters of the BB during testing, this state. secret. And now about the maneuvering BB, the first type with an offset center i.e. when the BB seems to rotate, but not along the axis but with some displacement, such as in a spiral, passive maneuvering. Here, for interception, the complexity still increases many times over, not only is the speed not linear, but also the rotation, even if it is periodic, but not known in advance! And if the BB is active and maneuvers in two coordinates and in speed, and even not periodically, then all put out the light, UNDER ANY CONDITIONS it is impossible to HIT such a BB, and this is not to mention high speeds, convergence, interference, and if also a massive launch .. then NO NO AND NO.
    In Russia, the fragmentation method of destruction was taken as the basis, the fact is that in nuclear warheads the critical mass of fissile material and the explosion occurs due to the usual explosive and a spherical shock wave that compresses the shell with uranium, which leads to an increase in the critical mass and if the shell hits the shell with a fragment or even if one of the initiating charges, then there will be no explosion, the block will simply fall to the ground. True, in my opinion they have now abandoned the shell in favor of petal type detonators i.e. only uranium is compressed from two sides, it is harder to hit (here is a secret, maybe that's why they decided to use kinetic interception !?;). Fragments are not quite fragments, they are special-shaped elements made of several metals, damaging elements that, when impacted, actively affect the BB and even the flight path of the fragments is special. Thousands of tests have been carried out since 60 in laboratories and at polygons in order to find the optimal properties of fragments. At the same time, the BB intercepts a whole cloud of fragments, which increases the likelihood of damage and is not required for high accuracy. The downside here is only that such a warhead weighs a lot and you need an appropriate carrier. Considering the dimensions of a true gazelle type anti-missile and the one planned for the c-500 in the dimensions of the c-400, it should be that, well, it’s very unique and ingenious. My opinion is REAL PRO, you can create to intercept all Western BBs, but for this you need at least 2000 missile defense.
  42. +2
    10 November 2015 20: 38
    The old truth is, "If you want peace, prepare for war" ... especially with such overseas "partners" and their allies ... Thank God that our esteemed President and the top military-political leadership of Russia understands this perfectly well, and are constantly working to improve our level of security and instant retaliation for any aggressor!
  43. +5
    10 November 2015 20: 41
    By the way, about the allies in the bloc. Nuclear rockets were taken out of Belarus, which was taken out, but Belarusians, unlike the Ukrainians, did not detonate a single mine. All mines are on conservation. So if you break the signed enslaving agreements, then missiles can be returned to the mines.
    1. +3
      10 November 2015 22: 10
      Quote: Pilot bin-bom
      So if you break the signed enslaving agreements, then missiles can be returned to the mines.



      It is unlikely ... The mines were "sharpened" for Voevoda-Satan, which had already passed all the imaginable and inconceivable terms of service extension ... Plus, the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and the Yuzhmash plant will not make new products for us ...

      And it’s easier to build these mines for new products by capital investments ... And new ones are also useless, now we need mobile mobile complexes first of all ...

      However, Belarusians are an economic people, the Soviet legacy, unlike some, was not about ... not lost ...
  44. +2
    10 November 2015 20: 45
    The funniest thing is that the Americans will not make this system effective; donating a euro for them is nothing. But the dough pumped nemereno from the European Union. Plus, they will frighten all the rich Europeans and assure that it will be calmer to move to the states, preferably with money.
    Yes, and Russia, if it is spent, also solid pluses for the United States. I think ours has already figured out what to do.
  45. +3
    10 November 2015 21: 02
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Otherwise, you will have to transfer the capital beyond the Urals.


    Do not have to. Moscow is covered, and with regards to Washington, where is it, if what?
  46. +6
    10 November 2015 21: 17
    "If a fight is inevitable .."
  47. +3
    10 November 2015 21: 26
    What else (in addition to the Igil group in Syria) must be blown up with new generation missiles, so that the dumb geyrops get it: dangerous, extremely dangerous to threaten Russia with NATO missile defense. Some are already at risk!
  48. +4
    10 November 2015 21: 54
    Quote: m-arsenich


    Do not have to. Moscow is covered


    What is covered? A copper basin
    1. 0
      10 November 2015 22: 38
      Three air defense / missile defense belts
  49. 0
    10 November 2015 22: 02
    if something serious begins, there will be no time to be distracted by Europeans. First, overseas partners need to neutralize and sink, finally, the damned island.
  50. +3
    10 November 2015 22: 04
    "we will work and over shock systemsThat able to overcome any missile defense system"...

    All this was already practically at the end of the 80s ...

    No wonder the other day, it was initiated (by the way, Russia) the signing of a new treaty on the non-proliferation of combat systems in space ... Putin knew in advance that the United States would refuse to sign this treaty, and thereby untie Russia's hands ...

    He plays multi-way, clearly providing himself with possible advantages in international legal positions ...
  51. 0
    10 November 2015 22: 10
    Quote: colonel
    Hardy, so what do you suggest? Again "peace, friendship, gum" with America? Or something else? Your comments are trolling.

    Well, what does America have to do with it?)))) Tell me also that Obama is deciding something...)))) Yes, lately the monopolists have been deliberately installing clowns in the US presidency so that the world community does not even have an idea that the state can be a real leader.

    Do you really think that ordinary Americans or Europeans want to fight? And those that are “not simple” have long since ceased to belong to any country. They don't give a damn if the US gets bombed. Actually, like many members of our government, they have houses all over the globe and do not depend on the fate of Russia.

    We laugh at Ukraine, but who rules us? Aren't they the same guys with Western ideology? Haven’t you heard how Ulyukaev compared us to flies who are being poisoned?

    What are we going to fight for? For Russia or a gas station with flies instead of people?

    If you are for Russia, then first you need to destroy your internal enemies, starting with Chubais. And build your own independent economy. And respond to Western threats in a targeted manner, as in Syria. That is, to destroy personally the real leaders of transnational business, who profit from wars and are trying to incite us.


    If we remain in the Western economic system, then there’s no point in rocking the boat. Why then fight? Because Ulyukaev and company will continue to export resources for candy wrappers?

    Against the backdrop of this situation, Putin’s statement today looks like cheap populism. West (transnational business or as they are also called: world government, although in fact it is an ordinary gangway) and so he knows everything about our weapons and, apparently, they are happy with the war. Westerners won’t know anything, or they will be served it with the tenderloin and the right sauce.

    And then it turns out that he told us all this... Like we should be imbued with the moment and be ready to die for the bright ideals of the capitalist future.)))) And all "Yeah, well done, let's bomb everyone..."
    Well, the flag is in your hands guys. Continue dancing on your rake)))

    For me personally, as long as liberals sit in our government and Chubais does not sit, this is all a scam to increase ratings and divert attention from real problems.
  52. 0
    10 November 2015 22: 22
    Let them poke around. Apparently they haven't had any real trouble for a long time. But we have nowhere to retreat and we don’t need to, enough is enough.
  53. 0
    10 November 2015 22: 29
    Quote: Alexandr2637
    What is covered? A copper basin


    For the uninformed: in the states there is simply no air defense system as such, their entire territory is an unplowed field for us... Well, according to the agreement with the United States, they cover the ICBM silos in Nevada with a missile defense system, and in the USSR 3 missile defense rings cover the central industrial area. Over time, the states withdrew from the ABM Treaty, placing systems on destroyers, and the Russian Federation, in response, built “nano-tractors” for deep plowing of virgin lands overseas.
    Is it clear now? negative
  54. +1
    10 November 2015 22: 45
    Quote: dvina71
    We have already discussed this topic. Yes, they can’t right now. But who said that in the plans of the USA now or tomorrow to put nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation? In this case, the main thing for Americans is to gain a foothold near the borders of the Russian Federation and build missile defense bases. What missiles will be there in 10 years, we do not know. But this is built only against Russia. Iran is completely out of business here.


    We discussed it, dear Gennady, we discussed it. But what can you do if people once again write nonsense. We have to repeat it.

    So, what can we say about the American segment of EuroBMD (I am not considering THAAD).

    The United States currently has two types of missiles in service. "Standard". SM-3 Block IA (RIM-161B) и SM-3 Block IВ (RIM-161С).
    The range is 500 and 700 km, respectively, and the altitude reach is 160 and 250 km. Capable of intercepting targets with speed up to 3-3,5 km/s. At the air base in Deveselu they are installing "Standard" SM-3 Block IB (RIM-161C).

    There are questions:
    1. What can they intercept? What kind of missiles? We don't have rockets with such speeds. Then whose?

    2. Rumors are now persistently circulating that the Americans may put a Tomahawk there instead of the Standard. Purely theoretically they can. The Americans now have Tomahawks with ranges of 1500-1600 km.

    In order for them to, at least theoretically, hit our main strategic targets, the base should be located 400-500 kilometers to the north. And even then, only one of our missile bases would be under attack

    A question hangs in the air. Do we think Americans are complete idiots? Especially if you accept the crazy idea of ​​\u2b\u24bplacing cruise missiles instead of anti-missile missiles, which will take XNUMX hours to reach our territory...? In addition, the base ammunition is XNUMX Standard. Yes, any American destroyer will have more Tomahawks and not be a stationary target...

    Then what is the base for and against whom?
    Just don’t repeat the statements of our politicians, even the president (this does not apply to you, Gennady). Personally, do you see the logic in this placement of the base (if we take it as an axiom that it is against us)?

    You, Gennady, wrote that it is unknown what will appear in 10 years. Five years ago I would have agreed with you. Not anymore. Now we can clearly say what the future will be.
  55. 0
    10 November 2015 22: 55
    I will continue

    It is a "Standard" SM-3 Block IIA (RIM-161D) и "Standard" SM-3 Block IIВ(there is no RIM index yet, since these are long-term plans and there are no rockets yet)

    The first will have a range of 1000 km and height reach in 500 km, second, as planned 2500 and reach 1500.

    The first was to be put into service with EMNIP in 2016 year. But at the end of the past, the beginning of this, there was only the first launch and it was far from successful. Tests have been moved according to plans Until 2018 year and 2020 her plan will be put into service.
    But even with such a range and reach, it cannot threaten our strategic nuclear forces, since it is designed to intercept targets at speeds 4,5-5 km / s. But we don’t have those.

    When do they plan to create "Standard" SM-3 Block IIВ - unknown. And even more so for armament. And although it has very high parameters in terms of range and altitude (the range is especially questionable), the speed of targets is again in the region of 5,0-5,5, maximum 6 km/s. Again, these are not ICBM speeds. The dimensions will be the same (at least that’s what they plan). But the most important thing is that the radar has a range for us, if my sclerosis does not change me, about 1100 km, which is less than the distance to the border with Russia.

    Something like this. Therefore, as they say "He who has eyes, let him see; he who has ears, let him hear". Well, for a certain category, write or write, they will repeat their opinion.

    Quote: Pilot Bin Bom
    By the way, about the allies in the bloc. Nuclear rockets were taken out of Belarus, which was taken out, but Belarusians, unlike the Ukrainians, did not detonate a single mine. All mines are on conservation. So if you break the signed enslaving agreements, then missiles can be returned to the mines.

    Of course we will place them in Belarus in mines. "Yars" or something else. It's a small matter. Dig these mines, equip them, and then you can put missiles there... laughing
  56. 0
    10 November 2015 22: 55
    I will continue

    It is a "Standard" SM-3 Block IIA (RIM-161D) и "Standard" SM-3 Block IIВ(there is no RIM index yet, since these are long-term plans and there are no rockets yet)

    The first will have a range of 1000 km and height reach in 500 km, second, as planned 2500 and reach 1500.

    The first was to be put into service with EMNIP in 2016 year. But at the end of the past, the beginning of this, there was only the first launch and it was far from successful. Tests have been moved according to plans Until 2018 year and 2020 her plan will be put into service.
    But even with such a range and reach, it cannot threaten our strategic nuclear forces, since it is designed to intercept targets at speeds 4,5-5 km / s. But we don’t have those.

    When do they plan to create "Standard" SM-3 Block IIВ - unknown. And even more so for armament. And although it has very high parameters in terms of range and altitude (the range is especially questionable), the speed of targets is again in the region of 5,0-5,5, maximum 6 km/s. Again, these are not ICBM speeds. The dimensions will be the same (at least that’s what they plan). But the most important thing is that the radar has a range for us, if my sclerosis does not change me, about 1100 km, which is less than the distance to the border with Russia.

    Something like this. Therefore, as they say "He who has eyes, let him see; he who has ears, let him hear". Well, for a certain category, write or write, they will repeat their opinion.

    Quote: Pilot Bin Bom
    By the way, about the allies in the bloc. Nuclear rockets were taken out of Belarus, which was taken out, but Belarusians, unlike the Ukrainians, did not detonate a single mine. All mines are on conservation. So if you break the signed enslaving agreements, then missiles can be returned to the mines.

    Of course we will place them in Belarus in mines. "Yars" or something else. It's a small matter. Dig these mines, equip them, and then you can put missiles there... laughing
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  60. +1
    10 November 2015 23: 46
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Pilot Bin Bom
    So if you break the signed enslaving agreements, then missiles can be returned to the mines.


    It is unlikely ... The mines were "sharpened" for Voevoda-Satan, which had already passed all the imaginable and inconceivable terms of service extension ... Plus, the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and the Yuzhmash plant will not make new products for us ...

    For information. The mines in Belarus were not designed for missiles of this type (Voevoda-Satan) for the simple reason that:
    1. In Belarus NEVER there were no divisions equipped with silo ICBMs
    2. Missiles of this type (Voevoda-Satan) NEVER BASED in Belarus.

    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: Pilot Bin Bom
    So if you break the signed enslaving agreements, then missiles can be returned to the mines.


    And it’s easier to re-equip these mines for new products due to capital investments, it’s easier to build new ones...

    Not at all. It is always cheaper to refurbish than to build new ones, which is usually done


    Quote: m-arsenich
    Quote: Alexandr2637
    What is covered? A copper basin


    For the uninformed: in the states there is simply no air defense system as such, their entire territory is an unplowed field for us... Well, according to the agreement with the United States, they cover the ICBM silos in Nevada with a missile defense system, and in the USSR 3 missile defense rings cover the central industrial area. Over time, the states withdrew from the ABM Treaty, placing systems on destroyers, and the Russian Federation, in response, built “nano-tractors” for deep plowing of virgin lands overseas.
    Is it clear now? negative


    Of course, the USA does not have an air defense system. And there hasn't been one since 1957. A NORAD и command post at Cheyenne Mountain they built it exclusively for the filming of the Stargate series. Of course, the field is unplowed.

    Under the US ABM Treaty NEVER mines in Nevada were not closed. Under the agreement, the missile defense system was deployed around the Grand Forks base in North Dakota.

    Quote: m-arsenich
    Quote: Alexandr2637
    What is covered? A copper basin


    and in the USSR 3 missile defense rings cover the central industrial region.

    Actually, you shouldn’t confuse the three Moscow air defense rings, the so-called. "Blue Ring" with a missile defense system, which was located focally and not in rings

    I am also writing this for the ignorant. And, dear Mikhail (m-arsenich), if you undertake to explain something to someone, then at least read the materials on this topic first, and then speak. Otherwise, you are carrying a blizzard with a very smart look, without knowing how things actually stand. No offense
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  62. -3
    10 November 2015 23: 53
    I don’t understand the hysteria about missile defense...strengthening the NATO group on our western borders. Isn’t this what our politicians...the military and our propaganda have been trying to achieve for the last 2-3 years? Provocative statements. Provocative airplane flights. Provocative actions. We spent a long time trying to find enemies for ourselves. It happened... I don’t understand why there’s such an upset.
  63. 0
    11 November 2015 00: 26
    Leopold SAID guys let's live together soldier
  64. 0
    11 November 2015 01: 07
    Quote: Old26
    No offense


    I’m also old and experienced (beginning P-12;-15), so I’m not offended. They closed not in the sense of liquidated, but in the sense of COVERED; rings not in the sense of "solid circles", but exactly as you hi clarified - OCHAGOVO.
  65. 0
    11 November 2015 01: 49
    The existence of the United States has caused/is causing/will cause damage to world security. Of course, I understand that after a 25-year liberal frenzy, getting an American missile defense system in the overfed oligarchic face (the entire top of the Russian Federation) is unpleasant, especially knowing that the United States needs the resources of Siberia, without risky ghoul hirelings. However, missile defense is already being deployed at our borders, and will be ready in a year or two. And the means to overcome it still need to be developed for more than one year. At the current level of science and industry in the Russian Federation, 5-10 years, i.e. all words, words and words...

    Is it weak for a guarantor to create a flotilla of 11661 series ships modernized for the ocean zone in two years, screw atomic warheads onto the calibers and take the USA and the EU into a semi-circle on a permanent basis by agreeing to base the ships in Cuba and Nicaragua???

    Or is it easier to fuck than to move government-issued safety bags?
  66. 0
    11 November 2015 02: 53
    When such things are said openly by the head of state,
    This is already a serious matter.
    This is essentially a sign that we are ready for a fight.
    And now we wait to see what America will do in response.
    I think that Europe will now be quite tense,
    for it is clear that everyone will get p-lei.
    We have probably forgotten how it was before detente and perestroika,
    but it seems to me that this is exactly what happened.
    By the way, an alternative answer is to plant thermonuclear landmines at stress points in the earth’s crust off the enemy’s coast.
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    0
    11 November 2015 05: 21
    GDP HAS ONE BUTTON FOR EVERYONE. RED.
    INSCRIPTION - “THE WHO DIDN’T HIDE I’M NOT GUILTY.”
  68. -1
    11 November 2015 05: 23
    Putin said, so it will be...
  69. 0
    11 November 2015 06: 18
    Yes, it must be openly stated that if nuclear weapons are launched into the Russian Federation, then the Russian Federation will shoot at everyone who even farted in the direction of the Russian Federation, regardless of the launch site of the carriers. And just.....
  70. 0
    11 November 2015 06: 32
    As I understand it, this is a hint to Europe that in the event of a “big mess,” the missile defense systems will be the first to be destroyed, regardless of persons and countries.
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  72. 0
    11 November 2015 06: 55
    I remember there was such a project in the Soviet Union. Create a bomb of enormous power in the form of an oil tanker (you can imagine the scale). So when our scientists calculated what could happen if it exploded, they decided to abandon this project. And the result of the calculations is as follows: from the catastrophic destruction of continents in the form of prices, to a displacement of the earth’s axis.
  73. 0
    11 November 2015 07: 58
    Quote: m-arsenich
    Quote: Old26
    No offense


    I’m also old and experienced (beginning P-12;-15), so I’m not offended. They closed not in the sense of liquidated, but in the sense of COVERED; rings not in the sense of "solid circles", but exactly as you hi clarified - OCHAGOVO.

    I also meant covered up. But nevertheless, not in Nevada, but in North Dakota, which is at the "opposite" end of the US, in the north rather than the south. Grand Fores Base

    Quote: Zomanus
    When such things are said openly by the head of state, this is already a serious matter. In fact, this is a sign that we are ready for a fight. And now we are waiting to see what America will do in response. I think that Europe will now tense up quite a bit, because it is clear that it will get -lay to everyone. We have probably forgotten how it was before detente and perestroika, but it seems to me that this is exactly how it was.

    When such things are said openly by the head of state, they are said for the people, first of all for their own. The people must support the image of the enemy. US presidents do and have done exactly the same thing before. But for some reason we perceive their statements as nonsense. Read the statements of forum members on the speeches of the same US Secretary of Defense, on the speeches of their president. All this is perceived as nonsense, and the most affectionate definition was: Is this old man out of his mind?
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  75. 0
    11 November 2015 08: 00
    And we take our president’s speech at face value. And I must say that he fulfills his task. And the task is simple. Unite the population in the face of an even non-existent threat. And then, based on this matter, you can make any decisions, even the most unpopular ones. The first bell has already sounded, and also publicly, a couple of days ago, when our Prime Minister for the first time officially announced that the state would raise the retirement age for men and women to 65. Not a word about raising pensions to normal levels...
    And the people will perceive this positively: how could it be otherwise, we are surrounded, and suddenly there will be a war with capitalist predators? (with)

    Quote: Zomanus
    By the way, an alternative answer is to plant thermonuclear landmines at stress points in the earth’s crust off the enemy’s coast.

    By the way, maybe it’s already enough to talk about outright nonsense about bombs?

    Quote: Volka
    Putin said, so it will be...

    How else. The man said it, the man did it. But there is a huge distance between words and deeds...

    Quote: sokudo
    As I understand it, this is a hint to Europe that in the event of a “big mess,” the missile defense systems will be the first to be destroyed, regardless of persons and countries.

    Why hint if this is an axiom and they already know about it. The question remains open (from a purely technical point of view): who is this missile defense system against?

    Quote: Prop
    Yes, it must be openly stated that if nuclear weapons are launched into the Russian Federation, then the Russian Federation will shoot at everyone who even farted in the direction of the Russian Federation, regardless of the launch site of the carriers. And just.....

    The first country that we will “overwhelm” with nuclear warheads will be Georgia. She not only farted, but also fought with us in 2008. Of course you can shoot. We just forget that others will also shoot... And making such idiotic statements is a sign of the “immaturity” of the country. There is a military doctrine, our opponents are aware of its provisions. It's enough...
  76. 0
    11 November 2015 13: 17
    Quote: Civil
    And for a long time we will be safe

    such a charge already exists - yellowstone, laid in the right place, the only question is who will blow it up first... the Americans also benefit from this, this is their only salvation.
  77. 0
    11 November 2015 13: 50
    Well, let’s set up an experiment for their missile defense system - let’s launch a “gift” towards ISIS, will they shoot it down or not? This will be a real test for both us and them.
  78. 0
    11 November 2015 15: 53
    Quote: Belousov
    Well, let’s set up an experiment for their missile defense system - let’s launch a “gift” towards ISIS, will they shoot it down or not? This will be a real test for both us and them

    Let's. But first, learn MATCHso as not to write such nonsense
  79. 0
    11 November 2015 18: 10
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: Civil
    There are no problems, you need to make ONE nuclear charge that will tear the globe. And for a long time we will be safe

    And why didn’t you please the ball?)))))
    It is enough to burn the United States to hell with England to the heap, and the whole world will live in peace and harmony at least 300 years, until the birth of the new United States, if they are not aborted by those who have a good memory))).

    In my opinion, it’s time to call the USA and England terrorist organizations banned in Russia.
  80. 0
    11 November 2015 18: 30
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    And why didn’t you please the ball?)))))

    I don’t know why they didn’t please the ball ... I like it. I look at this photo and want to become an astronaut in my childhood ... laughing

    Yeah, become an astronaut, fly away and watch the wonderful blue ball through a telescope! bully
    In general, it’s probably interesting to observe from the outside how the local (global) fauna is trying to come up with a more sophisticated way to self-destruct, taking with it all the flora. soldier
  81. 0
    11 November 2015 19: 48
    Previously, Vladimir Vladimirovich hinted, but now he has already started talking directly about such things. It's getting more interesting...
  82. 0
    12 November 2015 11: 51
    I didn’t see it posted here, the news appeared just yesterday.
    PUTIN about new RUSSIA weapons systems in response to US missile defense threats!!! OPK meeting in Sochi.

  83. 0
    12 November 2015 15: 44
    Quote: Seneca
    I don’t understand the hysteria about missile defense...strengthening the NATO group on our western borders. Isn’t this what our politicians...the military and our propaganda have been trying to achieve for the last 2-3 years? Provocative statements. Provocative airplane flights. Provocative actions. We spent a long time trying to find enemies for ourselves. It happened... I don’t understand why there’s such an upset.


    Such a stupid, stupid person. Where do mentally retarded individuals come from? It seems that the unnatural copulations of ancestors up to the seventh generation lead to such a sad result.
  84. -2
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