Student Karaulov (Ivanova) admitted her guilt in an attempt to side with the ISIL militants

The decision of the Moscow City Court, a student of the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University, Varvara Karaulova, who recently changed her name to Alexander Ivanov, was left in custody. Recall that a few months ago, Karaulov was returned to Russia from Turkey, where she went to cross the Turkish-Syrian border and enter one of the ISIL cells. According to the special services, Karaulov was recruited by one of the militants (a resident of Tatarstan), who may recently be in Syria. After returning to Moscow, Karaulov was released without giving way to the criminal case, but the student did not break off contacts with the recruiter.

Today, the Moscow City Court judge said that Karaulov (Ivanova) fully admitted her guilt in an attempt to join the militant group of the Islamic State terrorist organization in Syria. It is reported by the news agency TASS. The investigator in charge of the Karaulova case, responding to the lawyers' complaint that the girl allegedly could not be in the SIZO for health reasons, attached a document to the case that the accused had undergone treatment and could be in the SIZO.

Interfax reports that immediately after returning from Turkey, Barbara began an examination at one of the mental health centers. Doctors prescribed a student antidepressant course.

It is reported that during the trial, lawyers Karaulova (Ivanova) familiarized the judge with the characteristics of the accused. Characteristics, they say, one is better than the other. Teachers characterize the girl as gifted and diligent, responsive and grasping knowledge literally on the fly. Why did not talent and diligence help a student of the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University to separate the wheat from the chaff and understand that it is being dragged into a terrorist swamp? - a separate question.

According to the judge, the characteristics are also attached to the case.

Comments

[Vend]

Quote: Observer2014

what to say?

But here she is to blame. She was forgiven at first, but she didn’t get it.

[severniy]

student of the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University Varvara Karaulova,

Isn't it time for the media to become just a "citizen of Karaulova", harosh is already dirty with all kinds of d .... oh the good name of the institution.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

She was looking for a prince on a white Toyota pickup truck ...

[Eugene-Eugene]

So do most girls

[Jack-b]

Quote: severniy

Isn't it time for the media to become just a "citizen of Karaulova", harosh is already dirty with all kinds of d .... oh the good name of the institution.

Here is such a fly in the ointment for this good establishment. I personally want these two names to stand side by side. An educational institution for that and an educational institution in order to teach, rather than read material.

[GSH-18]

Babadura Just pre

[Maxom75]

Fools who have forgiven. It was necessary to go straight into a dummy and for injection, until it turned into a vegetable. It's just cheaper to keep her in a psychiatric hospital for the rest of her life than to eliminate the consequences of the terrorist attacks later. The characteristics of the school psychologist are not surprising: "She has a schizoid psycho-type." Are we now teaching schizos at Moscow State University?

[Oman 47]

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ???
Misunderstandings ...
What are they blaming?

Ivanov needs her girl with great ... hmm ... dignity - then the brains will fall into place!

[Alexnder]

So that others think again.

[Temples]

The very fact of the desire to serve ISIS must be judged.
If you want to become a terrorist, be prepared to sit.
Better to sit on a Coke.
Or did you have to wait until she cuts off someone’s head?

[herruvim]

No one has yet canceled the mental hospitals, according to the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, they will be forcibly treated for about 5 years, I think they will not be sent to prison, they will be sent to Durkee

[SibSlavRus]

Lead pills - a universal medicine for the soul and body, ideally helps with consciousness disorder.
Moreover, relief surrounding the patient and the federal budget.

[smart Fox]

And if it was your daughter?

[pv1005]

Quote: sly fox

And if it was your daughter?

Reread "Taras Bulba", there are all the answers.

[Drmadfisher]

and you don’t distort, the question is specifically for you

[smart Fox]

Taras Bulba is a remote Zaporozhye Middle Ages, read it well. With appropriate morals. In ISIS, like in Taras Bulba, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. I gave birth to you, and I will kill you. Become like these morals?
Do you have your own daughters?
It is easy to wave the slogans on the forums. Lead bullet to a stupid girl That’s only the one who doesn’t have his own child, never wiped the tears of a crying girl and didn’t protect him from troubles. who did not call an ambulance for his child and did not count every minute before arrival.
Are there many of you here?
Put yourself in her place, in the place of her father, who did everything he could then in the summer.
Set ?, Ah, they couldn’t. then you only publish banners.

[pv1005]

Quote: sly fox

Taras Bulba is a remote Zaporozhye Middle Ages, read it well. With appropriate morals. In ISIS, like in Taras Bulba, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. I gave birth to you, and I will kill you. Become like these morals?
Do you have your own daughters?
It is easy to wave the slogans on the forums. Lead bullet to a stupid girl That’s only the one who doesn’t have his own child, never wiped the tears of a crying girl and didn’t protect him from troubles. who did not call an ambulance for his child and did not count every minute before arrival.
Are there many of you here?
Put yourself in her place, in the place of her father, who did everything he could then in the summer.
Set ?, Ah, they couldn’t. then you only publish banners.

Do not think that only you have children and that only you can wipe the snot. For my daughter, tear anyone who offends. But if God forbid betraying and embarking on the path of terrorism (anything can happen in life) and crimes, then I’ll repulse the fifth point myself, and if people die through its activity, then I’ll smear my forehead with green paint.

[igorka357]

I would have killed myself!

[smart Fox]

Here you will give birth, grow and kill. You can handle it.

[igorka357]

I can’t give birth physiologically, and I’m raising three already!

[smart Fox]

So how is it? which of the three can you kill? You think you can control everything in their life. Do not be naive, they are. your children will still surprise you. wait !!!

[SibSlavRus]

We educate our children in love for our Motherland, our people, our History, in the spirit of traditional values ​​(without unnecessary liberals and tolerance), which, unlike us, who are relatively generous and humane, they would have torn this creature.
Sometimes you think: it’s a pity that the troubled Criminal Code with a liberal bias is pity, and not the custom of the people in society dominates. So you look, and corrupt officials, traitors, enemies of the people, drug dealers, pedophiles and other scum, including terrorists and their accomplices, would be much less likely to meet in the news, if at all they lived to see the news.
And the court would have been, but only, as in Soviet times, would have been called PEOPLE.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: herruvim

No one has yet canceled the mental hospitals, according to the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, they will be forcibly treated for about 5 years, I think they will not be sent to prison, they will be sent to Durkee

As they say: "With the prohibition of punitive psychiatry, dissidents lost the chance for qualified medical care" . And they’re sent to Durkah not according to the articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, but according to the conclusion of medical psychiatrists. Sincerely.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Temples

If you want to become a terrorist, be prepared to sit.

If you want to become an extremist - be ready to sit.
Are you sure that with our justice this will work? Me not. Already passed, when under beautiful words Kvachkova and Khabarov were planted.
Proved that the terrorist is execution.
According to the article - you need to work with youth, state ideology is needed, and we have a ban on it. A holy place does not happen empty. In 1905 and 1917 also pale skinny bespectacled bombers moonlighting.

[Hubun]

a demonstrative flogging is needed, especially since she was given a chance to leave everything without consequences, so let it now get itchy

[Alexey Boukin]

It is these "innocent girls" that make terrorists with belts stuffed with explosives. It is necessary to strictly suppress such desires, so that others sometimes turn on their brains.

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Quote: Temples

Did you have to wait until someone cuts off his head?

I agree.
She’s better off two square meters in Crosses than two square meters of victims on a graveyard.

[old pioneer]

Not for intent, but for trying to commit an unlawful act.

[Oman 47]

WHAT action?
Did they find the IG certificate from her?
What article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation do they want to judge?
What is the crime?

UNCLEAR...

In my opinion, the next company is indicative.

About the white and fluffy Vasilyeva and Stool - generally silent ...

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Oman 47

Did they find the IG certificate from her?

Does Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or Abu Umar al-Shishani have such a certificate? Maybe the "kgovaya gebnya" erected vain on them? What proof do you need? Maybe a video of her self-detonation in some kindergarten? Sincerely.

[pv1005]

Quote: Oman 47

WHAT action?
Did they find the IG certificate from her?
What article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation do they want to judge?
What is the crime?

UNCLEAR...

In my opinion, the next company is indicative.

About the white and fluffy Vasilyeva and Stool - generally silent ...

You need a criminal case, evidence, etc. send straight home? And with reports on the work done in a day, where to call on your home or cell phone?

[Oman 47]

On satellite, with ZASom.

Actually, this article discusses the above article, which has no specifics, and not someone’s finger-cramped overinformation.
Are the facts in the article SCHEDULED?
That's it ...

[pv1005]

Quote: Oman 47

On satellite, with ZASom.

Actually, this article discusses the above article, which has no specifics, and not someone’s finger-cramped overinformation.
Are the facts in the article SCHEDULED?
That's it ...

I'm afraid the satellite AAS is not in your home.
And you, besides this site, do not use any other sources of information (television, radio, press)? A lot has been said about why, how and why. This story with the "poor" student has been developing for more than a day or even a month. Therefore, the article covers only the latest information, in the hope that people are mostly literate and can independently collect different sources of information and facts into a single whole.

[igorka357]

Aiding and assisting a terrorist organization, this will do, on such an accusation it will be sewn by the worst prosecutor!

[arane]

Quote: Oman 47

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ???
Misunderstandings ...
What are they blaming?

According to the law will be! She didn’t refuse intent to commit a crime, they interfered with her, and from the point of view of the law it is an attempt on a crime, that is, punishable!
Although the most effective punishment for her is to let go of Isil, only then will it be too late, including repentance

In fact, she is a child, a romantic fool ..... Of course, she is not needed in a jail ....
Send her to the North Pole station, about three years old, let him work, maybe cool, he’ll talk to normal people

In general, how to isolate it from these creatures, until it comes to normal

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: arane

Send it to the North Pole station, about three years old, let it work, it can cool down ...

- She needs a good guy, RUSSIAN!
And now, ONE will sit ONE, will become even more embittered ...

[novobranets]

Quote: arane

In fact, she is a child, a romantic fool ....

In Syria, such children, under the supervision of adult uncles, cut captives' heads. Good romance. Has she not seen, on the same Internet, that her idols are doing? She saw everything, and she understands everything. All her actions are thought out, and she must answer in an adult way. Here they asked, like, why? For an attempt to join a terrorist group, fortunately a suppressed attempt. And if you had not had time to intercept her? Then, after the appropriate treatment, she would return as a ready, convinced suicide bomber, she has a penchant for this, and would pull the "belt" somewhere in the subway, among the many people rushing to work. No, gentlemen, leave your pity to someone else, such as this one needs to be isolated, securely and permanently.

[vodolaz]

In the quarry !!!

[Tor5]

Something all this reminds me of ....

[smart Fox]

And me. To kill. to shoot, in a quarry, flog, in uranium mines, a Russian peasant to her (to rape or what?). Are you people that write something? You read your comments !!! ISIS smokes nervously on the sidelines. Are you brutalized in the heat of your patriotism?

[Prapor-527]

The "unfinished" intent was stopped by the FSB officers ... will be tried for attempted crime.

Quote: Oman 47

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ???
Misunderstandings ...
What are they blaming?

[Samaritan]

Who does not know her, here is the video:

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Oman 47

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ???

Today in Nalchik, for a similar "intent", one furry uncle was killed. And he "just" swore allegiance to ISIS. This is also, in your opinion, "excess"? Was it necessary to wait until Varya-Shura bangs someone? Sincerely.

[Homo]

Quote: Oman 47

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ???

What the hell are you talking about? Not "unfinished" but "suppressed" intent! Do not distort the concept of the Criminal Code. In your opinion, if the killer is taken before the shot (murder), then there is nothing to judge him for? Baby talk and not the judgment of an adult!

[Oman 47]

Question to minusers: is the person who perceives quite reasonable questions during the discussion adequate for POSITION?

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Oman 47

Question to minusers: is the person who perceives quite reasonable questions during the discussion adequate for POSITION?

I didn't minus you, but I will answer. What "reasonable" questions did you ask? Do you own all information on this case, that you think that only "failed intent" is the preamble of the prosecution? Or is her own recognition not enough for you? If only "intent" is listed for it, then it will answer for it, I recommend reading at least pedigree on this question, here is the link:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Умысел
Sincerely.

[Oman 47]

А "... you own all the information on this case that you think ..." this same Barbarian GUILTY ???
1. Before the trial?
2. Based on a murky article by an unknown author, it is not clear from what source?
3. It is necessary to explain how the so-called. "sincere confessions"? And who is interested in them?
4. Do you think that the 19-year-old idiot, preoccupied with the problems of her cap unused, so bluntly stated:
a) I took the oath of ISIS on blood;
b) subscribed to 8 terrorist acts;
c) I went to Syria to cut 12 goals a day and spend ... 3 Igilovites to death every day ???
5. The investigating authorities, with the appropriate setting of the task, will "break on the knee" any experienced prisoner with many years of experience; let alone a domestic girl from Moscow.

This is not a matter of legal subtleties. And not to the extent of her guilt even. In a different.
This case is just a dirty PR, a journalistic inflated fried fact on a certain temporal wave. Is there a little noise for the director of the Ukrainian library in Moscow? Bullshit delirium with facts sucked from the finger. How did it end? Steam fart. Remember the case of a mother with many children, who called the Kakhlyak embassy ?! The same stinky turd.
The preoccupied girl was caught on a hook by professional Mujahideen recruiters. She rushed there without looking; IS here - on the side, didn’t go to ISIS - to the Internet scumbag.
So no - a huge smelly elephant was inflated from the mouse poop. And this elephant stank more strongly with the beginning of the operation of our VKS in Syria ...
Just match the dates.
Sincerely.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Oman 47

IS here - on the side, didn’t go to ISIS - to the Internet scumbag.

Google info about "black widows" from Nord-Ost. Basayev was there, too. Why did you decide that the chakhal was waiting for her there, the hakhal in two days with a hole in her skull will be shown and explained how to avenge him correctly.

Quote: Oman 47

And "... you own all the information on this case, what do you think ..." this same Varvara GUILTY ???

I do not own all the information, but I know Article 205.1. "Assistance in terrorist activities", which provides for punishment, including for hiding a criminal. Remind me, when did the "home girl" report that a terrorist got in touch with her, or is Moscow unaware that ISIS is terrorists, and the intelligence services did not allow searching for videos on the Internet?

Quote: Oman 47

So no - a huge smelly elephant was inflated from the mouse poop.

In the discussion to the last article EwgenyZ posted info about her dad, here is the link:
http://www.bolshoyvopros.ru/questions/1589391-kto-otec-u-varvary-karaulovoj.html


Read, and then figure out what harm her act could have done if Barbara’s Internet-fucker sent her dad a video promising to cut Varenka from the pubic bone to the hyoid, if the folder doesn’t do such and such.

Quote: Oman 47

It is necessary to explain how the so-called. "sincere confessions"? And who is interested in them?

Explain. And at the same time, the fact why people change their name and get a full set of documents, including a passport.
I also recommend that you familiarize yourself with the biography of 17-year-old Khava Baraeva.

Quote: Oman 47

Is there a little noise for the director of the Ukrainian library in Moscow?

I don’t give a damn about the Ukrainian library from a high tower, but I personally believe that they would have closed any other if they found books written by terrorists who were wanted in Russia. IMHO. Sincerely.

[Oman 47]

Dear, did you have an exclusive opportunity to familiarize yourself with the case with FSB investigators ?!
Do you know the FACTS?
No, only what came up and was invented in this PR campaign ...

So WHAT do you want to discuss?

[Prapor-527]

Read the Criminal Code ... It is better to buy a book.

[igorka357]

I didn’t see the point and I don’t see it now! I’ll just say that if you have small children don’t punish them for the fact that the son wants to take drugs, and the daughter goes into prostitution .... now when they do that then then punish, only I think it will be too late! By God you are how small!

[Siberian]

But for some reason her aspirations are not for the Ivanovs, but for the terrorist, whose frenzied love developed in absentia, without a single meeting. What a romance!

[voronbel53]

She changed her surname in order to get a new passport instead of the old one. And they gave her such an excellent characterization - how can such a golden person be judged? She, at a minimum, needs to be given an increased scholarship or some kind of diploma to be issued - yes, such people should be worn in her arms. This is to say that we can get any piece of paper from us, you just have to VERY want and attach as much in monetary terms ...

[Luga]

Quote: Oman 47

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ???
Misunderstandings ...
What are they blaming?

Ivanov needs her girl with great ... hmm ... dignity - then the brains will fall into place!

I agree. One cannot judge for intent. Even if she took the oath on Skype there to some abrek there - judge only for specific cases.

On this occasion, in the news, I do not remember, it is true where it slipped that she herself was engaged in recruitment. Here it is necessary to judge.

By the way, there is article 205.5 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - participation in a terrorist organization, there is from five to ten years. But for this it is not enough to say "he is a participant", concrete actions are needed. If recruited, then a participant. If she only listened, hanging her ears, and confirmed her solidarity without concrete action, then she is not subject to jurisdiction.

Personally, this beggar does not impress me as a frostbitten idealist, ready to cut her head. He will see how this happens in nature, hear the crunch of a cut throat, smell the fresh blood, see the clouds of flies, and after a couple of dozen lousy beards take advantage of it under this surroundings, the romance will disappear, it will only be too late.

Let him sit and think. Suddenly it’s not too late. The main thing is that the Internet is not at hand.

[varov14]

To make compost from such, it’s time to get it and then we’ll play the little girl.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Oman 47

I need my girl Ivanov with great ... hmm ... dignity,

Not there she was looking for him (or she was found earlier, it doesn’t matter!)!
She is already an adult girl, it’s time to already be able to think not only between the legs!

[Maxom75]

Do you prefer her to recruit people to ISIS, and then they blew herself up at schools, airports, subways, hospitals? They will be judged for aiding.

[igorka357]

This girl is a potential murderer of your children and parents, as well as mine and many others! To judge and to judge again ... exemplary for ten years .. just for what she wanted, and those who have already entered the IG and caught for life crumbling, with unbearable working conditions for 15 hours a day!

[kit-kat]

Why are you denigrating the name "Ivanov"?

[FunkschNNX]

So what if they would let her go to the bearded men, just revoke her Russian passport and let her please her "brothers" there without the possibility of returning. I think this is a more severe punishment, and more sophisticated.

[Alexnder]

Planting her at home will be much more humane than letting go, depriving them of citizenship. The way there, definitely death sooner or later.
And so, the young girl will still change her mind.

[FunkschNNX]

Thinking about it ??? She consciously went to fight (to contribute) to a war to which neither her country nor her people had a relationship. No, she will not change her mind and will not get better. She is a fan and differs from the bearded man only in that she did not have time to harm anyone.
Rather, on the contrary, it will launch vigorous activity in Russia. He will recruit, train, provide contacts, transport other fools along the same route. She will be scolded and let go, but how much can she potentially ditch other people? Why, out of pity for an already committed criminal, should society endanger other people?

[avt]

Quote: Фкенщь13

No, she will not change her mind and will not get better.

That's for sure - he’s lying, but maybe the daddy has bothered. The waste material, in vain it was stopped, now I would engage in sexual jihad according to the tonsils

Quote: Фкенщь13

She will be scolded and let go,

Campaign yes, like daddy is not easy, otmazhet.

[Oprychnik]

Lord ... What is a zombie girl to discuss?
"Someone came down the hill. Probably, my dear is coming.))) And if not dear, then don't bother. The main thing is coming. Or maybe to me ..."
The dad gave her a little belt ... It's also not too late now. With a seven-tailed little ribbon, yes ... Well, a good father would have quickly translated it from the Arabic faculty into the Chukchi dialect.

[Vorchun]

Yes, and at the conservatory (MSU) probably something needs to be fixed.

[Reptiloid]

How to understand? In the war I was going to kill people, to sit in holes, to go back and forth with the ISIS, there are no diseases, excellent health. How did you get back home and got sick? Demonitsa.

[Moonsund]

I think the question should be asked deeper. How do we educate, who educates? How did you not keep track of? What are we doing to prevent young people from being hooked. And for this fool, show her a photo with 200 shot children, she can turn on his "gifted and diligent, responsive and grasping knowledge "brain

[Recon]

Her mother said something about incredible love. And it's true, young fools for her sake are capable of actions and worse, for example, to go out the window or gobble up a couple of bundles of Valium. I am inclined to think that this option has the right to life.

[Alexey Lobanov]

Quote: Recon

Her mother said something about incredible love. And it's true, young fools for her sake are capable of actions and worse, for example, to go out the window or gobble up a couple of bundles of Valium.

Well - a normal comment!
The girl is a young fool, she is sorry for her (certainly not in prison or in the psychiatric hospital, although it is necessary to treat, but socially, we are not animals). Lived, go on social networks ...
Her "recruitment" is rather a question for the special services, what kind of bangs do they feel like fish in water and take out the brains of lost youngsters ?????
If we fight terror, we need to fight it everywhere, and protect citizens everywhere, even in the virtual space.

[Mountain shooter]

Girls who are barely out of puberty are easily led by the harsh masculinity of any "fighters for justice" who are not devoid of masculine charm. How many of them were there in Russia, sacrificing themselves for the sake of "ideals" in which they hardly understood anything. They were guided by norepinephrine from a risky life and testosterone companion, dragged them into these "adventures". An obvious drawback of upbringing - the value of human life does not understand and analyze his own state - does not know how.

[Kibl]

Yes, send this fool a military charter to Syria to the war zone and parachute! I got already, albeit in a circle, but what is she, pathologically in love, let her love them all!

[Dezinto]

Turtle - nerd.

It seems not stupid, - an excellent pupil, and at school and at the university, all such clever, speaks several languages ​​- and this is just a computer with open programming code, - and not the mind.

[arane]

Quote: DEZINTO

Bullfinch bug - nerd.

It seems not stupid, - an excellent student, and at school and at the university, all such clever, speaks several languages ​​- and this is just a computer with free programming code, - and not the mind.

So no one says stupid! Just a fool juvenile ....

[lecturer]

And about her mind, again a joke:

A student is taking an exam. Professor slyly says: - Well, I'll put you 3 with a stretch! But first, a stretch.

[I am Russian]

From now on, schools will have a new grading system, instead of "5", "4", "3", "2", "1" there will be "A", "B", "C", "D", "E".
The teacher at the beginning of the lesson: - IF YOU WRITE THE DICTANT BADLY, YOU WILL RECEIVE EVERYTHING ON THE "E" POINT.
The student from the back desk: - THREAT THERE?

[smart Fox]

Where to laugh?
Go to a modern school, where you and E and A and all sorts of different points, modern children will put down.
It’s bad that you are so Russian.

[science fiction writer]

It seems not stupid, - an excellent pupil, and at school and at the university, all such clever, speaks several languages ​​- and this is just a computer with open programming code, - and not the mind.

Such terrorists are needed, she still has a huge plus European mug.
easily move where the Arabs are problematic to do.

[behemot]

and then cut off someone’s head. Nah, on felling, to a complete mental cure.

[kit-kat]

And why do you think that if a person is an excellent student, then he is certainly not stupid?

[rustemkm]

right, let this one now study the beauty of the Magadan Territory. She was already given a chance after the first attempt, but the woman has no brains.

[AdekvatNICK]

bring the guys into your igil only when you arrive there, kindly say goodbye to your passport and personal life, for from that moment you are a slave and most likely your life will be very short.

[PQ-18]

Somehow, it’s painfully noisy and indicative of PR for the work of this young flowing bitch ...
To bring down her violent female libido, you need to take her TWO-THREE years to sew gloves and pouches for the soldiers of the Syrian army. So to say, change her hot ISIS to snow-covered Tagil ...
"Everything for the front, everything for the victory over ISIS!", "With love, from Varenka K."

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Of course, I am far from jurisprudence, but maybe someone from my senior comrades will tell me - but what is she actually accused of, was they arrested for two months for what? Sympathy or even love for a terrorist fighter is of course ay-yi-yi from a moral point of view, but I did not find such an article in the criminal code. The measure of restraint in the form of imprisonment for the battle is exceptional and is applied only when other preventive measures (recognizance not to leave, money guarantee, surety, house arrest) cannot be applied. Who can explain to me why this scribble is so dangerous that it must be imprisoned for two months, with the prospect of extending detention for the duration of the investigation and trial, that is, for a year or two? Maybe a bracelet for her, how to put on Vasilyeva so that she doesn’t run away and let her sit at home, no?

[arane]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

Of course, I am far from jurisprudence, but maybe someone from my senior comrades will tell me - but what is she actually accused of, was they arrested for two months for what? Sympathy or even love for a terrorist fighter is of course ay-yi-yi from a moral point of view, but I did not find such an article in the criminal code. The measure of restraint in the form of imprisonment for the battle is exceptional and is applied only when other preventive measures (recognizance not to leave, money guarantee, surety, house arrest) cannot be applied. Who can explain to me why this scribble is so dangerous that it must be imprisoned for two months, with the prospect of extending detention for the duration of the investigation and trial, that is, for a year or two? Maybe a bracelet for her, how to put on Vasilyeva so that she doesn’t run away and let her sit at home, no?

Yes, everything here is simple and correct! What does la moore have to do with it? An attempt to join the banned terrorist organization in Russia is a crime, even if it did not work out! If she herself refuses in the process from this, then this exempts her from criminal liability

[Baloo]

I support. Sentence for community service as a nurse in a morgue or intensive care unit or in a maternity hospital. He will see the difference between life and death, nature will take it. The romantic intellectual girl imagines the hero of a man whom in reality she did not know.

[Baloo]

I support. Sentence for community service as a nurse in a morgue or intensive care unit or in a maternity hospital. He will see the difference between life and death, nature will take it. The romantic intellectual girl imagines the hero of a man whom in reality she did not know.

[dauria]

Maybe a bracelet for her, how to put on Vasilyeva so that she doesn’t run away and let her sit at home, no?

Well, you compared, damn it ... White and fluffy, neither with an ear nor a snout, the most naive and, in terms of simplicity of soul, Vasilyeva’s artistic nature dragged into the pool. And the bloodthirsty killer and demolitionist in the future, incorrigible, which ALREADY was given a chance. Atu her, vomit dogs, with all severity and fairness .... all the more so since the order for PR campaign has arrived.
Yes, to drive into the neck of all zhurnalyug from this fool, and to dump the real Lyuli to the Specialists. What, damn it, weren’t there normal brain psychologists? They threw it, not finishing the job, so the klusha got stuck in a new way.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: dauria

What, damn it, weren’t there normal brain psychologists?

But what, in Russia they are already condemning dishes to brainwaves, or is this still a personal expression of the will of citizens? Sincerely.
PS: They either let Vasiliev go away, don’t know, then they have to justify everyone. IMHO.

[igorka357]

Harboring or aiding a person belonging to a terrorist organization!

[kill the fascist]

we have Serdyukov at large, and the young stupid on the bench ... wonderful.

[Dezinto]

What does Serdyukov have to do with it? With him - yes, a mess and a spit in the face of society - certainly.
But these are two completely different things.

- This sheep could calmly leave a bag in the subway with the contents! - because the completely reprogrammed fool!

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Quote: DEZINTO

- This sheep could calmly leave a bag in the subway with the contents! - because the completely reprogrammed fool!

Anyone can leave a bag in the subway with the contents - and I, and you and God knows who, and she, of course. The concept of opportunities itself provides. They judge not for the opportunity, but for the deed. As for the attempt to join the terrorist organization and voluntarily renounce it with the release of responsibility - according to the logic, it had to be caught at least on the plane, when trying to fly to bearded friends, and even better on the spot, after it joined. And then again it turns out - she could join, she could not join, change her mind, but sit in prison from sin. While printing, a message was fired about the arrest of the artist Pavlensky. Of course, he is a complete hoopoe, as well as his actions, but the trend, however, can be traced, all those who disagree ... that ...

[igorka357]

Seriously? Well, tell me PERSONALLY to me .. what bag I can leave in the subway, according to your concept !!! ???

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Alexnder

Planting her at home will be much more humane than letting go, depriving them of citizenship. The way there, definitely death sooner or later.
And so, the young girl will still change her mind.

So she sat at home, mother complained that her daughter turned the press into a monster. At home, her parents could not hold. Especially the second time the parents did not hold.
About education. It’s not only parents who bring up friends, friends, etc.

[old pioneer]

The surname could have been changed not to Ivanova, but to Novodvorskaya. She was also- "DO NOT GIVE TO RUSSIAN".

[Bakansky]

this fool will not save anything either, not ISIS will even fit into some kind of garbage. It would have been necessary to let her go, she would have thought better of it after having worked with a fucking machine !!!! although probably it would be too late

[iliitchitch]

Quote: SibSlavRus

Lead pills - a universal medicine for the soul and body, ideally helps with consciousness disorder.
Moreover, relief surrounding the patient and the federal budget.

"Nothing adds brains like a bullet, even if it hits your ass."
(S. Lukyanenko)

[bad]

"the girl allegedly cannot be in a pre-trial detention center for health reasons, attached a document to the case stating that the accused has undergone a course of treatment, and she can stay in a pre-trial detention center." bunk and teach the criminal code of the Russian Federation.

[mamont5]

Quote: Oman 47

Che, for the incomplete action of the INTENT, they will judge her ??? belay
Misunderstandings ...
What are they blaming?

In contact with a recruiter of a terrorist organization banned in Russia. Enough to get started.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: mamont5

Enough to get started.

But without an upright one in court, it won’t work.

[roskot]

They began to talk too much about her. And how clever she is. And we are promoting it. And she, if ordered, would go to the attack. Then it would be too late.

[tomcat117]

Student Karaulova (Ivanova) pleaded guilty ...

Come on whitewash a failed killer or their accomplice.
"Unhappy", unfired student, still a naive sheep, just a girl, an athlete, just an "igilovka".
It's time to "ride" on it, deserved.
It was her boyfriends-suitors who shot down a plane in Egypt, "rejoice for your friends, you friend!"

[Lenin]

I’m looking at all this and really don’t understand why the show was done with a silly fool. After all, the deadline will be real, not like a show with Evgenia Vasilyeva, what scope, what scenery ... And the characters, my God, what characters and how they played ... But why? What do we lack on moronic TV shows and shows? Or are we, as people, considered completely degraded and unable to analyze and think?

[Bekas1967]

Her Mehan is not "recruited" to send ...

[polite people]

This is how mediocre Souls of Christians betray God. Thank God that only a few. Maybe the poor thing will change his mind.

[Victor1]

She was already given one chance to improve, she even changed her last name.
As a result, six months did not pass as I fell for the same.
It is better to put her now for 10 years, so that she thinks well about her actions and the example was different. You look less candidates for suicide bombers will be, and there will be less recruitment.
Now many liberalists feel sorry for her, but who will pity those whom such fools will blow up on a bomb, or just be dragged into this terrorist swamp.
How much wrecking she will bring to the country, in fact a traitor.
But she has not even been expelled from the institute yet, daddy is not a simple type to see, once knocked out a chance for her, now let this fool pay in full.

[atamankko]

Plant and for a long time, once regretted and enough,
too many good defenders.

[starshina pv]

Quote: Temples

The very fact of the desire to serve ISIS must be judged.
If you want to become a terrorist, be prepared to sit.
Better to sit on a Coke.
Or did you have to wait until she cuts off someone’s head?

and what did mom and dad do? everyone to count !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1

[31rus]

This is exactly what deserved, unfortunately, only at the beginning of life, and how many of these, according to the FSB, about 7000 participate in the ranks of militants from the CIS

[PValery53]

Taking into account the fact that we have the dominance of liberals "at the top", the failed igilovka awaits a show trial, where she will be intimidated and intimidated, she will be sentenced to 7 years in prison, but a year later she will be released under life-long control. Well, do not shoot her until people have suffered from her!

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Colleagues, no one is going to whitewash this sheep. But it is also necessary to go to prison on business, and not just in case. If someone forgot, she was swept up and sentenced for talking with a bearded boyfriend on the Internet. She didn’t run anywhere, she didn’t carry bags in the subway, she bred llamurs-tujuras, though not with that, but she was sent to prison. It’s not a matter of her health, it’s not that a girl isn’t allowed - it’s possible, there are special prisons for girls, for the disabled, and for the elderly. The fact is that in prison is an extreme measure of protecting the state from a citizen. This is when a citizen is so dangerous that there are no other options but to isolate him. The killer - definitely, can kill again. A thief who has stolen a billion - without options, will still steal. Pedophile - no need to explain, all have children. But this girl doesn’t seem so dangerous to me personally - lock her at home with a bracelet, disconnect from the Internet and everything, in fact, what other danger is there from her? Will he make a bomb out of a loaf of bread? Okay, I feel I won’t reach you, I started in vain.

[Baloo]

You are right Michael. Most of them are adult men, fathers and grandfathers. What, in your life, you didn’t meet such smart little infantile girls, first love, romance, I imagined the image of a hero myself. There was not enough elementary life experience ... It must be treated with both pills and a word. Scientists have established that love is akin to disease. This is like a slight insanity, a surge of hormones and much more. To the monastery? Also a way out. The girl is gifted, educated. probably parents will figure out what to do. A couple of years will pass if there is a different dominant in her life than the memories of Klaus-Klaus and will be cured. Maybe working as a nurse in intensive care as a punishment can help. She will understand the difference between life and death. Lock it in front of the TV for a day and endlessly twist the corresponding chronicle, so that at last it will understand what evil ISIS is, how they destroy the cultural heritage of the Middle East, how they rob museums, so that their leaders sell it in geyrop and the USA. The main psyche cannot be broken, otherwise the tragedy will really go crazy. They stopped in time, now heal spiritually and physically. Maybe some Orthodox priest could take patronage over her, become a spiritual mentor. Imagine?
Have you tried it? Many inveterate criminals at some point became pious and retired. Among the monks there are also those who served in the Army, carried out military duty with arms, and the soul could not stand it ...

[Baloo]

You are right Michael. Most of them are adult men, fathers and grandfathers. What, in your life, you didn’t meet such smart little infantile girls, first love, romance, I imagined the image of a hero myself. There was not enough elementary life experience ... It must be treated with both pills and a word. Scientists have established that love is akin to disease. This is like a slight insanity, a surge of hormones and much more. To the monastery? Also a way out. The girl is gifted, educated. probably parents will figure out what to do. A couple of years will pass if there is a different dominant in her life than the memories of Klaus-Klaus and will be cured. Maybe working as a nurse in intensive care as a punishment can help. She will understand the difference between life and death. Lock it in front of the TV for a day and endlessly twist the corresponding chronicle, so that at last it will understand what evil ISIS is, how they destroy the cultural heritage of the Middle East, how they rob museums, so that their leaders sell it in geyrop and the USA. The main psyche cannot be broken, otherwise the tragedy will really go crazy. They stopped in time, now heal spiritually and physically. Maybe some Orthodox priest could take patronage over her, become a spiritual mentor. Imagine?
Have you tried it? Many inveterate criminals at some point became pious and retired. Among the monks there are also those who served in the Army, carried out military duty with arms, and the soul could not stand it ...

[Baloo]

A virus got into the computer through a deja vu reader, one of the problems is sending a double copy of the comment, and it’s somehow uncomfortable with the keyboard. Yandex sent a spider utility, but so far there is no effect.
Just demolish the system. As a kosher missed the virus, I won’t know. It seems to be a reliable product. Who will advise which antivirus software?

[Amurets]

Try NOD-32. Do not want to demolish Casper, just disable it temporarily. And run the test version of NOD-32. Remove the virus, delete the test version.

[TsUS-Air Force]

and how many such lost souls live without ideology ...

[Cook]

It seems that philosophy is not for young ladies, it’s very much their tower breaks down. The well-known Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, also from this faculty.

[MAD_SERGANT]

To the count for CHANGE OF THE HOMELAND !!! And as a warning to others

[scaramaks27]

Here I sit, read and think, TO REDUCE, is it a verb or ...

[Amurets]

We must either amend or rewrite the constitution! And the first point should be the paragraph on the National Idea and national priorities. And the rejection of these liberal values ​​that put international laws over national ones. I think that rewriting the entire Constitution is expensive and long, it is better to accept the amendments.

[Erg]

And what, interestingly, would Comrade Stalin say to this? I would look at you, demagogues ...

[magician]

There are a couple of options for a silly woman to atone:
1. Become the object of scientific research for psychologists. (possibly for military purposes)
2. Development of the uninhabited territories of Russia. (For example: the Arctic in full swing, snow shovel row to the rocky base)

[yury74]

at the expense .... apostate ... worthless of it will never be ...

[dchegrinec]

First you get pleasure from creating a family, then from the birth of a child, and the child rolls such a watermelon in 20 years! Now there will be a pain in the neck not only for parents, but also for the state for many years! Such brain disability does not go away quickly.

[3axap82]

A significant portion of unsubscribed sadists and the beast. To kill, on a count, in a psychiatric hospital for drugs ... where are you from, people, Russians in general? Someone Kadyrov for the murder and torture of Russian soldiers, no one calls even to judge, not to mention the count. Yes pissed off? And the girl who did not even scratch anyone on the count ?! Fu slush.

[kit-kat]

Here I agree with Kadyrov. Bandit and killer. And all heels lick him. Already disgusting.

[Support]

If the first time it didn’t come when they forgave me, then only 25 can get there without the right of correspondence .... and as much as possible in the best climate - somewhere in Chukotka ....

[YaMZ-238]

To the wall and with her rifle, and her parents for 2 years to Siberia, because they raised their child and missed it ... that's all! And others will no longer want to do this)))))

[kit-kat]

There is no logic in the actions of this program.

[Prisoner]

Yes, they would have released the poor fellow, there they would have banged her and that's it. "Woman with a cart ..." so to speak, and that's it! So no, they promoted it. Now the crowds of magazines ... x will scatter with their wretched mind, Sho say and why and who is to blame, and what to do?

[YaMZ-238]

Indeed, why did they spin it like that ??? Now, some 15-year-old little girls will make her an idol, like she thundered all over the country, so cool, I also want .... and they will look like fools along her way of communication with ISIS! Now the young people are really bad, that where it’s bad (Nazi gangs, go against their country, drink, smoke, drugs) - it's cool for them !!!

[Baloo]

For couch fighters against terrorism from the Tatarstan site Business-Online.
11.11.2015 12:00
Recruiter “Islamic State” (a terrorist organization whose activities are prohibited in the Russian Federation - approx. Ed.), Talking with a student at Moscow State University Barbara Karaulova, previously been conditionally convicted of custody drug. New details about a resident of Kazan, Ayrat S., who wrote on social networks under the nickname "Klaus Klaus", became known during the investigation of the Karaulova case.
It turned out that this is a native of Tatarstan, Ayrat Samatov. Now he is accused in absentia of participating in a terrorist organization. In 2014, he got a job, began to go to the mosque and save money for a trip to Syria, Kommersant writes. Having accumulated the required amount, he took a ticket to Istanbul, and then ended up in the ranks of the IS militants. By spring, he agreed with Karaulova that she would come to him. Samatov himself bought a ticket to a student, who had become by that time his wife in the Islamic rite, and sent her the reservation number. The girl managed to return when she was going to cross the Turkish-Syrian border.
The Moscow City Court on the eve left the student in custody. Karaulova has been under arrest since October 28 this year on charges of preparing to participate in a terrorist group. Investigators believe that Karaulova, returning to Russia, continued to correspond with Samatov, although all of her communications and social media accounts were already under the control of the FSB. According to investigators, in August she asked her husband to help her with a second attempt to get to Syria.

Whose situation is not clear? A young wife, a naive infantile young lady in love who does not understand that the subject of her love ... and scum. It is good that she was stopped during. Now she needs to be helped, not ruin her fate.