Russians Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev do not admit their guilt on the charges against them in Ukraine

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The trial continues against the Russians Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Yerofeyev, who were detained by Ukrainian security forces 16 in May. The hearings on the case of Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev, who in Ukraine are called acting (at the time of the arrest) by military personnel of one of the units of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, are held in the Goloseevsky court of Kiev.

RIA News reports that during the court session the Russians declared their readiness to testify, “if there is such a need”. At the same time, one of the Russians, Yevgeny Yerofeyev, made claims to the judge, stating that he did not understand the grounds on which he was called “a soldier” during the trial. The Kiev judge did not answer Yerofeyev’s question.

Recall that earlier in a Kiev court, it was decided to extend the arrest of two Russians until January 2 2016. Lawyers Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev declared that they would apply to higher authorities with the aim of Russians recognizing “prisoners of war”. At the same time, Ukrainian lawyers motivate their initiative by the fact that criminal prisoners cannot be initiated against prisoners of war on the basis of the Geneva Convention.

The prosecutor, speaking at the trial, filed charges against Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev under several articles of the criminal code of Ukraine. Here is a list of articles:

h. 2 Art. 28 (committing a crime by a group of persons, a group of persons in a preliminary conspiracy, an organized group or a criminal organization),

h. 2 Art. 437 (waging aggressive war or aggressive military action),

h. 2 Art. 201 (smuggling),

h. 2 art. 332-1 (violation of the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine),

h. 1 Art. 263 (carrying, storing, purchasing, transferring or selling a firearm weapons, ammunition, explosives without a statutory permit),

h. 1 Art. 258-3 (creating a terrorist group or terrorist organization, leading it),

h. 3 Art. 258 (terrorist act).


however, the Russians did not admit their guilt on any of the listed points. This is reported by the Ukrainian TV channel TSN.

Russians Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev do not admit their guilt on the charges against them in Ukraine


Recall that, according to official data of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Yerofeyev previously served in the units of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but at the time of their arrest on the territory of Ukraine, they were no regular military servicemen of the Russian army.
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  1. +16
    10 November 2015 14: 21
    Hang on guys! Power is in the truth!
    1. +1
      10 November 2015 14: 35
      About how many articles riveted.
      1. +1
        10 November 2015 14: 45
        The investigation has this principle - impute more articles, the court will leave something. But in this case, the court will leave everything, down to poaching and non-payment of alimony, if they were charged.
        1. +1
          10 November 2015 15: 40
          Moreover, dill themselves pierced. The first video said that they were active soldiers of the Russian Federation General Staff and at the same time showed their IDs to fighters of the LPR People’s Police Corps. That is, in their opinion, nm and gru of the Russian Federation are one and the same? A soldier cannot serve in the Russian army if he serves elsewhere. soldier That is, either he serves in nm LPR or in the Russian army.
          1. +2
            10 November 2015 16: 03
            it seems there were no signatures, only "crusts"
        2. 0
          10 November 2015 20: 59
          An independent court, free from morality of Ukraine, can consider the number of articles put forward as small, and present it on its own.
      2. +20
        10 November 2015 14: 50
        After all, somehow their men must be pulled, because their cattle dill torture
        1. +3
          10 November 2015 15: 08
          don't torture, they are exemplary
          1. +4
            10 November 2015 15: 14
            they will not be tortured exemplarily by the camera, but they can be tortured everywhere without traces.
            1. +1
              10 November 2015 15: 21
              here is your opinion http://dixon24.livejournal.com/4094.html
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        3. +2
          10 November 2015 17: 15
          Well, for the time being, for the sake of fairness, it should be noted that the guys were well treated by Ukrainian military doctors. And they did not make out the organs, as one of the detainees was afraid.
      3. +6
        10 November 2015 16: 06
        The most interesting article they have is h. 2 Art. 437 (waging aggressive war or aggressive hostilities).

        I didn’t know that in war it was necessary to behave passively, that something Geyropoy smacks of.
    2. +3
      10 November 2015 15: 06
      But didn’t they organize a global flood? What really is there.
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  2. +7
    10 November 2015 14: 27
    "... part 2 of Art. 437 (conducting an aggressive war or aggressive military operations)"

    now I'm interested in the phenomenon of "passive war".
    1. +2
      10 November 2015 14: 37
      Quote: A-Sim
      "... part 2 of Art. 437 (conducting an aggressive war or aggressive military operations)"

      now I'm interested in the phenomenon of "passive war".

      The impression in the list of articles is that articles are imputed, which at least a little ... well, a little ... pull Russia. The 200th invisible corps of the Russian Federation is not given to prove, so at least two terrorists ...
      In general, a very dark story.
      1. +1
        10 November 2015 15: 15
        And the "lawyers" are interesting. The status of "prisoners of war" is an attempt to soften the heavy clauses imputed to political "kipesh" ... Here ...
  3. +4
    10 November 2015 14: 32
    Our guys will probably be there for a long time to spread rot. In revenge for his "geroysha" Savchenko
    1. +1
      10 November 2015 14: 43
      for that and the calculation. need not give DNR captive ukrov until they are released.
      1. +1
        10 November 2015 15: 13
        just about, the DPR with goodwill gestures distributed half the prisoners, including those who were held at the May 9 parade in Donetsk
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  4. +5
    10 November 2015 14: 32
    You have to pull them out ...
    By any means, Russia has many levers.
    1. +4
      10 November 2015 14: 36
      I support. Although the truth is true, it’s better that the guys are somehow pulled out. It is only thought that dill will be exchanged only for its pilot-corrector.
  5. +1
    10 November 2015 14: 41
    The truth will always come out. Hold on.
    1. +2
      10 November 2015 15: 09
      yes got out already. these fools took their mobile phones with them on a mission, with which the little movies shot. Gru, cho!
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  6. +1
    10 November 2015 14: 43
    Quote: Alekseev
    You have to pull them out ...
    By any means, Russia has many levers.


    That's for sure, you have to pull it out !!!
    But it seems to me that we don’t have anyone to pull out, the entire Special Operations Directorate of the Main Directorate was laid in the vast expanses of Ukraine together with the Altai armored police !!! smile laughing wassat
    But seriously, no one will pull them out and pull them out for one, in my opinion, reason - at the present time, the Russian Federation cannot recognize that its Armed Forces were fighting on the territory of a "foreign" state. Weaken the regime for them, try to shorten their time, achieve any relaxation, but pull out - no !!! It's a pity sad
    IMHO !!! hi
    1. +2
      10 November 2015 14: 47
      Quote: warrior1979
      cannot, at the present time, the Russian Federation admit that its Armed Forces were fighting on the territory of a "foreign" state

      And they (the RF Armed Forces) were fighting?
      1. -8
        10 November 2015 15: 16
        http://s018.radikal.ru/i506/1511/d0/be0e67e569ad.jpg
        1. +4
          10 November 2015 15: 23
          "Dear", if you want, with a slight movement of the mouse I will make a similar plate with your full name. and the signature "from the grateful inhabitants of Tau Ceti"?
          1. 0
            10 November 2015 15: 26
            No, it’s better to take a picture of this obelisk against the background of a house of red bricks and compare the inscription.
            1. +1
              10 November 2015 15: 45
              Life mountain brigade. Now-motorized rifle. PPD-New Atagi. Something with?
              1. 0
                10 November 2015 16: 02
                early August - early September, Illovaysky cauldron.
                and in Spain36-39 both tankers and pilots fought even from Siberia.
                1. +1
                  10 November 2015 17: 55
                  the first one apparently died while warming up the Ilovaysky boiler - 10.11.2009 ...
                  Or was he lying under the fence, waiting while they were killing, so that they would put up a monument ???
                  Do not carry fool fool fool
                2. +1
                  10 November 2015 18: 26
                  For you in Europ (usraina - tse Europa, huh?) This may be news, but we are at war with bearded drinkers (yelling about and without "Alla, I'm in the bar") is not the first decade. For example, over the past 5 years in the Caucasus, where there is officially no war, almost 5 hundred security officials have died.
                  Why should the losses of the brigade deployed in the Czech Republic indicate that we are allegedly fighting in / on the territory of the former. USSR?
                  You still can’t believe me, but if / when we do send troops (and along the Netherlands as well), you will start every morning with loud singing of the Russian anthem.
                  Z.Y. how much one needs to be a great-Ukrainian, in order to believe that a herd of seluks are fighting with the strongest army in the world (this is if you believe the last KShU in the hero city of Washington).
                  1. -4
                    10 November 2015 18: 52
                    earlier it was necessary to introduce when the people in Donetsk-Lugansk asked for it, and not now swing it with an insert, after 8000 civilians killed.
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  7. +6
    10 November 2015 14: 50
    Justice in dill. Hang on guys, this is a witch.
  8. +2
    10 November 2015 14: 54
    Absolutely unproven. The accusation cannot provide any evidence. Just like the two thousandth Russian Army is fighting with Ukropia. I already began to not only hate Ukrainians, but also this whole corrupt and thieving country. Honestly - I got fed up with the politics of Ukraine and everything connected with it!
    Really tired of all this nonsense - I want reason, but the Ukrainian authorities do not show its signs ... tired!
    1. -2
      10 November 2015 15: 12
      presented, from the "vintorez" one of these militias killed a Ukrainian soldier (moreover, a native, it seems, of Tomsk)
      1. +2
        10 November 2015 20: 41
        If a garish Ukrainian boy from the village went out in the evening after work to do masturbation, then he would be "killed" by evil men from a special sniper rifle. If a Ukrainian citizen put on a military uniform and came with a weapon to Donbass, then he was "killed" and not "killed". As I understand it, he died in battle like a "dick".
        Most likely, according to the documents, both Russians at the time of their capture were not military personnel of the RF Armed Forces. The fact that they called themselves active servicemen is more likely to indicate that they were afraid of reprisals on the spot without trial or investigation.
        But there is a saying: "He called himself a load - get into the back", and do not save yourself by all available means.
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  9. +2
    10 November 2015 14: 55
    Hmm ... woe-special forces ....
    1. Hon
      -7
      10 November 2015 15: 06
      Quote: Rattenfanger
      Hmm ... woe-special forces ....

      and there were mountain paratroopers. with foam at the mouth proved that they were not real until their MO recognized
      1. +8
        10 November 2015 15: 20
        Quote: Hon
        and there were mountain paratroopers

        They did not hide that the paratroopers, and that they taxied into the territory of the former. USSR due to the lack of delimitation of the state border.
        But these ... "We are from special forces, the group threw us and the Motherland forgot. In short, we surrender." Either this is bullshit, or the big question is how these two bodies ended up in geological exploration at all.
        When the kakly began to sing war songs about an unequal battle with the Russian special forces in detail, and shake these "dogs of war" with mobile footage, everyone in the subject cried.
        Kaklam does not understand, but in a decent society they beat the whole group for something like that, and for an attempt to organize a circle of "young Mikhalkov" instead of organizing security during the day ... Kaklam does not understand, they have not had an army for 23 years.
        1. avt
          +6
          10 November 2015 15: 27
          Quote: Rattenfanger
          But these ... "We are from special forces, the group threw us and the Motherland forgot. In short, we surrender." Either this is bullshit, or the big question is how these two bodies ended up in geological exploration at all.

          request Actually, there used to be such a rule - Don’t confess. Confess, don’t write. Wrote - do not sign. Signed - refuse. Anyone who chooses this service should show up in the past life, and not draw bat tattoos on his body.
          1. +3
            10 November 2015 15: 39
            I physically cannot imagine the process of accepting two Special Forces soldiers as full. Living, healthy, with weapons, one of them is an officer, most likely a grouper. This is not even non-Euclidean geometry, it is some kind of nth dimension. Above my humble perception, in short.
            1. 0
              10 November 2015 15: 53
              they shot him in the leg, in the hospital Elizarov’s apparatus was screwed onto the camera, a serious wound
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  10. +6
    10 November 2015 15: 19
    Russia opposes Hohlandia from a position of inexplicable modesty, in response to their impudence and greedy. Ukrainians should not be allowed to mock the Russians. That they "sew" anything to our guys, but our official side is silent, like a fish on ice! (Like a fish in water)
  11. +2
    10 November 2015 15: 24
    The set of articles is simply unique - only Ukrainians could attract this. No evidence, just to blather louder. And this "Part 3 of Art. 258 (act of terrorism)" it’s not at all clear what, maybe the events in Odessa will be attributed to them, or the murder of Elderberry?
  12. -1
    10 November 2015 16: 09
    Quote: Alekseev
    You have to pull them out ...
    By any means, Russia has many levers.


    And by what means? There is nothing to think about, both of them will be exchanged for Savchenko and the end of the matter.

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