US media: China has tested anti-satellite missile

American edition The Washington Free Beacon claims that China conducted another test of a rocket designed to destroy artificial earth satellites. This is a Dong Neng-3 rocket, which, as the Pentagon is inclined to believe, is capable of destroying satellites with a direct kinetic strike.

In the American edition, referring to sources in the main US military department, they claim that the Chinese Dong Neng-3 is capable of intercepting ballistic missiles.

If you believe the American sources, the Chinese test Dong Neng-3 anti-satellite missile was already the eighth. Previous test events were held last year. And in 2007, during anti-satellite tests weapons The Chinese managed to eliminate the meteorological AES that belonged to the People’s Republic of China.

The Chinese press reported that the tests were conducted 1 November. However, the reports say that the interceptor missile of the Chinese missile defense system was tested.

Pentagon official spokesman General JJ Raymond announced that "we are rapidly approaching the point where every satellite in the orbital constellation may be in danger."

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[Dangerous]

Do we have anything like this?

[Temples]

Consciousness returns to the patient.
Amercians are slowly becoming aware that they are not alone in this world

[Tor5]

And this is very correct!

[hydrox]

Quote: Temples

Consciousness returns to the patient.
Amercians are slowly becoming aware that they are not alone in this world

They would still have to realize that they were approaching, and we had been there for some time and were slowly settling in, our device sniffed the Amer intelligence satellite from a month ago. the Chinese are already approaching us, and the Americans, as it has become noticeable lately, are SYSTEMALLY behind in devices and technologies - not yet a colony, but already not too developed country ...

[FlyEngine]

And it would be necessary for EVERYONE to realize that we are approaching the point when the next satellite will be destroyed and its debris will make it impossible for any further use of space. A chain reaction, when one debris hits a satellite, crushing itself and it into even more such debris, can become a reality. The Earth's orbit will be so clogged that above 200 km there will be a dense enough "screen" of debris. Then we'll just be locked up on the planet.

This is all very sad.

[Corsair]

Quote: FlyEngine

A chain reaction, when one debris hits a satellite, crushing itself and it into even more such debris, can become a reality. The Earth's orbit will be so clogged that above 200 km there will be a dense enough "screen" of debris. Then we'll just be locked up on the planet.

This is all very sad.

It is unlikely that the fragments will fly there for a long time, small ones will eventually enter the atmosphere and burn out, large ones will pile up and with direct kinetics (collisions) the lighter ones will fly off to other orbits and also either burn up or fly higher in radius until the angular velocity is lost

[Letun]

Quote: FlyEngine

And it would be necessary for EVERYONE to realize that we are approaching the point when the next satellite will be destroyed and its debris will make it impossible for any further use of space. A chain reaction, when one debris hits a satellite, crushing itself and it into even more such debris, can become a reality. The Earth's orbit will be so clogged that above 200 km there will be a dense enough "screen" of debris. Then we'll just be locked up on the planet.

This is all very sad.

Dear, you have watched the Hollywood films a la "Gravity".
It is very sad.

[FlyEngine]

No, I have not watched this movie.
And what can you say about the fact that the ISS has to constantly perform maneuvers to evade large space debris?

[Asadullah]

This is all very sad.

The question is not in the wreckage, the question is in the sweet communication orbits. Today, there are already methods for adjusting aircraft, and in the development of laser evaporators. Everything is solved, not so long ago zinc was dissolved in the water of the Rhine, and a spoonful of soda foamed water, today it is one of the cleanest rivers in Westphalia.

[opus]

Quote: FlyEngine

A chain reaction, when one fragment hits a satellite, crushing itself and it into even more such fragments, can become a reality.

Less "gravity" see.
There (in G) they generally did not give a damn about the orbital speed, momentum, mass of debris, eccentricity, true anomaly, etc.
Although, yes, we must admit in orbit it becomes crowded

Animation of a satellite motion in one minute

[Stepan stepanovich]

Imagine night, around the earth, beautiful luminous rings of satellite debris. And a sense of pride in their native country, for Saturn has rings by nature, and our man-made!

[Colonellee]

If this were the case, over billions of years, not only the Earth, but all celestial bodies would be covered by umbrellas from meteors, comets, and other small celestial particles, of which there are a great many in space. Fortunately for us, no one has yet repealed the laws of gravity and other laws of motion of celestial bodies.

[Letun]

Quote: hydrox

They would still have to realize that they were approaching, and we had been there for some time and were slowly settling in, our device sniffed the Amer intelligence satellite from a month ago. the Chinese are already approaching us, and the Americans, as it has become noticeable lately, are SYSTEMALLY behind in devices and technologies - not yet a colony, but already not too developed country ...

Well, yes, it’s the Americans who are asking us for guarantees of missile defense against them, and not vice versa. And it’s they who buy from us all sorts of Intel and Celerons, the manufacturing technology of which they cannot master in any way, are not far off. Truth?
Fools are such fools ...

[Colonellee]

As for missile defense, there is more likely an element of political bargaining than a real horror story for us. Do we remember SOI? And we always have a screw with a reverse screw for a tricky p ... s. And as for Intel and Celeron, the backlog is precisely what is not design, but production technologies. We can invent it better, but putting it on stream, with our production culture, can cause big problems.

[leon17]

C-400 and S-500

[opus]

Quote: leon17

C-400 and S-500

do not write nonsense.
S-400 can't

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http://old.raspletin.ru/produce/adms/s400/

even the 91N6E detection radar will not "take" (Maximum INSTRUMENTAL target detection range = 600 km)
and the Central Exhibition Complex "Elbrus-90 micro" "will not calculate"

S-500 not yet
antimissiles 77Н6-Н and 77Н6-Н1 in the "test"

serially produced until

And we don't have a kinetic interceptor

[mvg]

He said everything correctly. What I wanted to describe in one word "before" was put on the shelves.
Those. people who in the morning writes all sorts of garbage, without delving into the essence, this is adequate .. and I, who rightly wrote, about "before" - it's not informative .. It's funny.
In fact, at the end of the 80s, attempts were made to make an interceptor based on the MiG-31. 8 cars were converted. Up the hill, the plane reached almost 40 km (38 to be precise) and launched a rocket .. Up to 200 km. The collapse of the union, "Tagged" and everything else killed this topic.

[opus]

Quote: mvg

"pre" is not informative

I honestly did not understand anything about "before", sorry.
can clarify.

Quote: mvg

80 years attempts were made on the basis of the MiG-31 to make an interceptor. 8 cars were converted. In the hill, the aircraft reached almost 40 km (38 to be more precise) and launched a rocket ..

The fact is that the interceptor was made (and yes it is -2pcs:
The 30P6 Contact / MiG-31D / 79M6 complex), but the PSR (Interceptor missile) 79M6 was never made.
A 10-meter missile capable of falling into a satellite with a fragmentation warhead at an altitude of 120 km.
Attempts to create a kinetic warhead have not even been made.

One of the tasks of the A-35 and A-135 systems was the defeat of low-orbit satellites.
But their coverage is limited (it is understandable, it is a stationary complex)

[SAN31]

Complexes A-35 and A-135 were not designed for this! Only to defeat the ICD at the entrance to the atmosphere.

[SAN31]

In fact, this topic is not abandoned, transferred to new cars. Cars in development - by 2020 they promise an experimental series, and the altitude will already go under 70 km.

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

antimissiles 77Н6-Н and 77Н6-Н1 in the "test"

Logically, should they be with kinetic interception? Like C-500 atmospheric promised

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

Logically, should they be with kinetic interception? Like C-500 atmospheric promised

I doubt it. On such OCD did not hear.
Element base does not allow.
No atmospheric

Purpose of the S-500 air defense system:
1. The defeat of ballistic missiles with a range of up to 3500 km and speeds up to 5 km / s;
2. The defeat of more advanced ballistic goals, possibly in the future (hypothetically);
3. The defeat of aerodynamic targets;
4. The defeat of air command posts and aircraft AWACS;
5. The defeat of high-speed aerodynamic targets (hypothetically);
6. The defeat of the satellite (hypothetically);

And it would be necessary.
WAR BEGINS IN SPACE

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

Purpose of the S-500 air defense system:
1. The defeat of ballistic missiles with a range of up to 3500 km and speeds up to 5 km / s;
2. The defeat of more advanced ballistic goals, possibly in the future (hypothetically);
3. The defeat of aerodynamic targets;
4. The defeat of air command posts and aircraft AWACS;
5. The defeat of high-speed aerodynamic targets (hypothetically);
6. The defeat of the satellite (hypothetically);

Based on such data, this is a further development of the C-300В series (Antei 2500) So to speak Antey 3500 ...

Honestly hoping all the time a KKV clone

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

Based on such data, this is a further development of the C-300В series (Antei 2500)

not quite

at С-500 The height of defeat by means of the second echelon is up to 100 km.
those. what is needed covers the "hole" of the GPZLA echelon (40km-80km)
+ container radar "Mars" (+200 km to 91N6E)
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And Antey 3500 is a mobile multifunction radar radar 38Н6 and a missile analog 45Т6

Quote: Falcon

Honestly hoping all the time a KKV clone

It’s enough to look at the overall dimensions of our missiles / missiles and launchers, it’s immediately clear: we do not have KKV yet, and are not expected in the near future.
Technological difficulties and lack of element base of own production.
maybe later?

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

at С-500 The height of defeat by means of the second echelon is up to 100 km.

Should 77H6 provide this? Those. there should be gas-dynamic taxiing, and even a decent b / h. A peculiar analogue of THAAD for tasks?

Quote: opus

And Antey 3500 is a mobile multifunction radar radar 38Н6 and a missile analog 45Т6

So this is the banal development of 9M82

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

This should provide 77N6?

I said nothing.

look here:

there are many interesting things, if you read between the lines ..

Although it would be better (my opinion) to unify PIF-PAF Aster 45 (better Aster 60).
still Kill Vehicle mit IR-Sensor weighing 15 kg, something

Quote: Falcon

A peculiar analogue of THAAD for tasks?

or rather EXOGUARD-M from Astrium

, only without KEI (Kinetic Energy Interceptor)

Quote: Falcon

So this is the banal development of 9M82

all new well-tested old.
/ It is necessary to maintain mobility /

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

Although it would be better (my opinion) to unify PIF-PAF Aster 45 (better Aster 60).

They also have a funny height. There is still a combination of aero + gas steering. Not the fact that enough at high altitudes. It would be ideal for 40H6. About 77н6 in the report nothing.

Why then complicated PAC-3 ERINT taxiing? Pif-paf is noticeably simpler.

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

There is still a combination of aero + gas steering.

PIF-PAF is called
Aero for missiles 15 and 30 (Block 0).
As I understand it, they rolled PIF-PAF on them.
PIF = Pilotage Intertiel en Force = "Inertial steering by force"
PAF = Pilotage Aeronautique en Force = "Aerodynamic steering by force"

PIF-PAF describes what is essentially a divert and attitude control system (DACS), which is basically a specialized thrust vectoring system for getting hit-to-kill interceptors to ..

PIF-PAF wouldn’t just hit the target,and also to reduce (compensate) lateral overloads on missiles, during maneuvering (attack),which allows you to make the shell missiles less durable, lighter, which ultimately leads to a decrease in the mass of missiles, launchers and requirements for the carrier


I wrote about 45/60 (Aster 30 Block 1 and Aster 30 Block 1 NT / Aster 30 Block 2 - probably)
There at such ranges (300 and 600 / 1000 km) without multi-step and detachable warhead, well, no matter how.
And in development they have Aster Block 2 NT, which would intercept weapons that have a range of 3,000 kilometers

Quote: Falcon

Not a fact that is enough at high altitudes

Enough.
maneuvering warhead ICBM heavy grabs a miser.
No atmosphere reactive remote control is more effective.

Quote: Falcon

It would be perfect for

The West claims that the analogue (simplified) of DACS is already on one of the 9M96 missile variants. I don’t know whether to believe?

Quote: Falcon

About 77n6 in the report nothing.

sorry, mixed up.

77N6 and so on are analogues (variations, modifications) 48N6E3,48N6D, 48N6DM

Photos GSKB Concern Air Defense "Almaz-Antey" for 2011. Part 1

On the development of the 55R6M product [S-500 air defense system, Triumfator-M design and development project]:

RKD has been developed and the manufacturing of MIMS for the product 85ZH6-1 is nearing completion;
made and tested mock-ups of the main components of the AFAR product 77T6;
developed design documentation for the main element of the AFAR product 77T6 and bench equipment;
the main package of algorithms in real time on the MIMS of the product 77T6 was worked out;
developed 45% RKD on the product 77H6.H;
commissioned MIMS products 77H6.H;
30% of RKD and 70% of software for the 60K6 product were developed.

On product development 1LK222 [airborne laser complex A-60, ROC "Sokol-Echelon"] -

20 stages of design and development work completed and delivered to the customer. The main content of the work performed:
RKD of the product 1LK222 and its components in an agreed volume was developed;
prototyping and testing of models of individual devices 1LK222;
the achievable characteristics of the product 1LK222 are evaluated using complex mathematical modeling;
The hardware and software of the product 1LK222 was developed;
clarification of the technical parameters and operating procedure of the product 1LK222, taking into account the maintenance of the main objects of work.

For product development 50R6A [ROC "Vityaz-PVO"]:


It's cool that GO for 2013 about products is already not gu-gu

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

Why then complicated PAC-3 ERINT taxiing?

What's so complicated?

30 rpm on the approach route and 180 rpm on the interception stage?

SAM is small, decent interception range.
SAM missile speed 5M +
rotation of 30 rpm allows you to greatly reduce aerodynamic surfaces (reduce drag, mass of missiles, size of missiles), but at the same time maintain excellent handling)

rotation of 180 rpm after capture gives:
1. the ability to abandon 4-8 remote control transverse thrust, and to do 1 (2) - just synchronize the speed and the corrective effect of the remote control (which again leads to a decrease in mass and increased accuracy)
2. As an option, the specifics of the operation of the GOS sensor (to increase the capture angle)
3. As an option, the formation of a specific affected area of ​​a warhead-striking device (there is not a generator, but a fragmentation-compression device), what kind of "scalpel" thread is directed action.

Her head is complicated, but the bch is tiny (24kg)

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

There at such ranges (300 and 600 / 1000 km) without multi-step and detachable warhead, well, no matter how.
And in development they have Aster Block 2 NT, which would intercept weapons that have a range of 3,000 kilomete

Wait, not the range of SAMs, but the range of intercepted BRs.

As far as I found, Aster 30 block 2 is up to 150km in range.

Quote: opus

What's so complicated?

30 rpm on the approach route and 180 rpm on the interception stage?

No, I don’t understand why so many DG rudders.

As far as I understand, in the photo this is the block of the steering wheels. Similar to CUDA.

About 9m96 understood, Thanks!

Only:

Quote: opus

Note: Almaz-Antey promises 9M96 in the air-to-Air variant

What the hell? I understand ERINT promise, but there is a frantic speed and it is imprisoned for the missile defense.
And 9m96 speed in the area of ​​1m - will there be just long-range air defense? RVV-DB from a competitor?

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

Wait, not the range of SAMs, but the range of intercepted BRs.

oh yes jamb
The NT upgrade would allow the Aster 30 to hit enemy missiles with a range of 1,000 kilometers. The Block 1 model used by the French and Italian armies can intercept incoming missiles with a range of 600 kilometers, such as the Scud B.

Here, with a detachable warhead, only PIF works (from 3:05) and with PIF-PAF (first)

Quote: Falcon

No, I don’t understand why so many DG rudders.

1. This is not the main steering wheel, this is a propulsion control unit, consisting of 180 micro-RTTT
2. The PAC-3 ERINT does not have a rudder. It has a transverse thrust control
and so much ..
since it’s a solid propellant rocket engine, it’s not adjustable and does not restart, it’s not
It worked, gave an impulse, pressure relief - drowned out, the transition to the next along the axis

Quote: Falcon

And what for?

As the director of "AA" said: we are a commercial enterprise, we need profit
Or maybe Bch is good.
Or maybe an air launch option against satellites or BR.

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

then they are not adjustable and do not restart, this is not a rocket engine

Damn, exactly I didn’t think so.

[Falcon]

Quote: opus

PIF-PAF Aster 45

We have many sources write about the gas-dynamic rudders of the 9m96.
Point blank I do not see them anywhere ...

[opus]

Quote: Falcon

many sources write about gasdynamic rudders at 9m96.

they have the same "many"

It’s understandable, there are such angles of attack .... don’t give bo

Rocket R-73:
Design -... four-section gas-dynamic rudders.

In the terms of reference for the creation of a super-maneuverable missile - with the possibility of reaching angles of attack of about 40 degrees - it was proposed to use gas-dynamic control due to the inefficiency of conventional rudders. The initial version of the missile project did not include aerodynamic controls - tonly gas-dynamic.

Quote: Falcon

Point blank I do not see them anywhere ...

look from the nozzle side:

sketchy of course

something somewhere like this

Prim GDR can also be implemented by blowing into the supercritical part of the "exhaust" nozzle from the BIP gas generator (lighter, less loss, and adding thrust), - although for missiles it is unlikely
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there will be a photo from the stern and without a plug it will be visible

Note: Almaz-Antey promises 9M96 in the air-to-Air variant

[SAN31]

Let's start small. How many types of missiles will the c500 complex have? But is it easier, as Raikin said, are there any complaints about the BUTTONS?

[opus]

Quote: SAN31

Let's start small. How many types of missiles will the c500 complex have?

R&D "Lord-TP" ("Triumphant-Prometheus")

изделия 77Т6, 77Н6-Н и 77Н6-Н1( аналоги :48Н6Е3,48Н6Д,48Н6ДМ, 40Н6)
Вариации 9М96Е,9М98 ?,9М96Е2,9М99 ?
45T6 possible (53T6M modification from A-235)

Quote: SAN31

as Raikin said, to the BUTTONS claim

And who is Raikin and what does the button have to do with PRO / PR?

[SAN31]

Atmosphere where does it end? I’ll tell you a secret - the space station alpha also flies in the atmosphere, only very discharged.

[opus]

Quote: SAN31

Atmosphere where does it end?

Looking for someone.
For the doctor, the earth’s atmosphere ends 18 km from sea level,
on the border of the troposphere and stratosphere: at this height, a person will have blood boiling at normal body temperature, so it is impossible to survive there.
For a pilot and engineer closer to 40 km (in the mesosphere), the aircraft’s bearing planes cease to create lift, and then the atmosphere for the pilot and engineer ends.
For a meteorologist: aurora occurs at altitudes of up to 400 km (in the upper layers of the thermosphere).
For a radio operator, they know the F2 layer ends 500 km from the Earth. There for the radio operator and the end of the atmosphere.
For a physicist, THOUSAND miles from the planet. "Space begins where the probability of collision of molecules is negligible, and this is several thousand kilometers from the planet."

For a rocket launcher = the Karman line is the “unofficial” border between the atmosphere and space. It is located at a 100-kilometer mark where the air density is so low that the aircraft with an arbitrarily large wing should move at the first cosmic speed (approximately 8 km / s)so as not to fall to Earth.

True .... True, very short time.

Quote: SAN31

I’ll tell you a secret - space station alpha

ISS?
The same to me is an open secret
As of (UTC): November 10, 2015 19:51:16 PM
Eccentricity: 0,0006658
Inclination: 51,6446°
Perigee altitude: 398 km
Apogee altitude: 407 km
Ascending node longitude: 72,2174°
Periapsis argument: 125,6512°
Frequency of circulation (revolutions per day): 15,54963921
Mean anomaly: 11,0956°
Coil number: 97085
average orbit height 337–430 km

TLE orbital data

(!) pay attention to number 11, position 54-61 (circled for simplicity) - this is Braking coefficient B * (meaning the number starts with a decimal separator)

[Asadullah]

do not write nonsense.

And why did you decide that the declared characteristics completely limit the capabilities of the complex? Not so long ago, and "some" "Caliber" flew far from the expected results. Tracking objects in orbit, which is 100-150 km, is a much easier task than looking beyond the horizon and calculating the trajectories of non-ballistic aircraft, and everything depends on changing the design of the rocket. By the way, to destroy a satellite, the amount of explosives does not make any sense at all.

[opus]

Quote: Asadullah

And why did you decide that the declared characteristics completely limit the possibility of the complex?

physics and realities of our world.
1. There is no kinetic warhead, even OCD did not seem to start
2. There is no and no OCD in the atmosphere. The perpendicular traction from the Topol BG and others will not work.
3.T.k. no, then in order to deliver "there" a HE warhead weighing 140 kg (minimum, there is no atmosphere and no high-explosive impact), a carcass of 15000 kg weighing and 15 m long is required. (well, or 51T6 - ABM-4 GORGON -45000 kg / 20m)
it will not fit into any PU S-400, S-500.
(if only variations / designs of S-1000)
Complex Outfit-V

Complex IS-MU / ISZ 14F10 or Complex 75P6 / IS-MD Outfit / ISZ 14F11

Quote: Asadullah

Not so long ago, and "some" "Calibers"

I do not know where "someone" flew to.
do not confuse anti-ship Kr and KR on ground objects
ЗК10 (С-10) "Granat" / SS-N-21 SAMPSON or RC-55 / 3К12 Relief - SSC-X-4 SLINGSHOT (ground version of "Granat") ALWAYS "flew" at a distance of 1500 km

- and ZM-14 (and ZM-54) is actually its clone (on modern eb)

Quote: Asadullah

Track objects in orbit, which is 100-150 km, the task is much simpler,

1. At 150 there is nobody, and at 100 all the more
NOSE AES (English LEO) are usually considered satellites with heights from 160 km to 2000 km above the surface of the earth
2. Harder: The angular velocity of LEO satellites is maximum - from 0,2 ° / s to 2,8 ° / s(this is a lot), the periods of revolution are from 87,6 minutes to 127 minutes, the azimuth speed is close to 7,9 km / s (the S-400 is "capable" of fighting up to 4,8 km / s)

Quote: Asadullah

the amount of explosives does not make any sense at all.

Mistake.
no atmosphere, high-explosive action tends to zero.
in a vacuum even a nuclear charge is INEFFECTIVE

[Vadim237]

Most likely, this direction in the creation of the complex C 500 will also be provided.

[Colonellee]

Why put a missile defense on a missile defense? It seems that anti-aircraft missiles are now being launched with striking elements? I can teapot and something I do not understand, but can it be easier to blow a bucket of nails in front of the satellite? Or sprinkle in its orbit if undermining is not possible? I think any satellite after that will turn into a colander. But this is a joke of course, but I think you get the point? And with a nuclear charge you gave a surplus. The nuclear explosion has more damaging factors. Radiation for example. Or EMR, which no satellite equipment can stand.

[opus]

Quote: Colonellee

Why put a missile defense on a missile defense?

And that would be nails from

Quote: Colonellee

bucket of nails

scattered at an acceptable speed and hit a spacecraft (satellite) required explosives.

Missile warheads that hit the target on misses are, without exception, fragmentation.
In this way, the term "fragmentation" in the broad sense of the word is obsolete, and the concept of "fragment" should be attributed only to fragments of natural fragmentation.

Sometimes, wishing to emphasize the fact that on small misses, an anti-aircraft target can be hit by an air shock wave and detonation products, the term "high-explosive fragmentation" is used for warhead anti-aircraft guided missiles with non-contact detonation, which is methodically wrong. (my jamb)

In this case, it would be more correct to use the term “fragmentation compression warhead”, which corresponds to the English term “High Explosive Blast Fragmentation Warhead”.

Quote: Colonellee

Or sprinkle in its orbit if undermining is not possible?

?
The speed of the scattered 7,9km / s, the target speed of 7,9km / s, and the orbit ......
Earth's surface area = 510 million km² / R = 100 km
The area over which satellites can fly (many orbits)

where r = R (Earth) + h (orbit height)
Well, think for yourself 300km

Quote: Colonellee

And with a nuclear charge you gave a surplus.

?
System "Taran", complex and missile UR-100 (starting weight under 42 000 kg)
Range of action - 2000 km. Height of defeat - 700 km.

Type warhead - monoblock nuclear warhead power up to 10 mt

When in 1964 academician M.V. Keldysh brought to the attention of the government, that to repel a 100-ICBM raid, it would be necessary to explode 200 missiles with nuclear warheads (10Mt) over the country's territory, the topic "Ram" was closed by the order of N.S. Khrushchev.

against EMP and radiation, all Ka are protected, because they have space-class avionics ("cooler" military)
radiation-resistant microcircuits for space applications, there is already a metal-ceramic case rule.

our space class is acceptance 5 (acceptance of the customer, in the case of the military - the military representative controls the tests) / 9 (when only the most qualified personnel are involved in the work - for space and nuclear power plants) + resistance to special factors is indicated in (not public ) documentation for the chip.

there is a Brazilian magnetic anomaly (the annual dose can be 10'000-20'000 rad) - where the inner radiation belt comes closer to the earth, up to a height of 200km.

[Asadullah]

physics and realities of our world.

Mistake.
no atmosphere, high-explosive action tends to zero.
in a vacuum even a nuclear charge is INEFFECTIVE

It is physics, and, no mistake. It was not for nothing that he mentioned the quantity of explosives as meaningless in space; the potential energy of elastic deformation is also suitable for this. That is, to find a satellite, this is the main task, because it itself is very small. But all these objects have already been found, orbits, speed of motion and regularities have been calculated. And to bring a bunch of piece of iron to the trajectory of motion, the issue was resolved in another 62 years. To make a special rocket for satellites? And why, when there are universal ones, I added a step and it's done.

[opus]

Quote: Asadullah

To make a special rocket for satellites? And why, when there are universal ones, I added a step and it's done.

getting into a satellite is not a trivial task, even though

Quote: Asadullah

But all these objects have already been found, orbits, speed of motion and regularities have been calculated

I will not go into difficulties, I will give only THREE examples
1. Iskander-M, firing range of miserable 280 km on a fixed target.
KVO, m = 5-7 (optical guidance) / 30-70 (autonomous)
OH according to available maps of the region, autonomous by gyroscope (ANN).
Doesn’t hit the satellite
And here is the RPS: launch range of about 400km, to a height of 300km.
those. C (launch range) = square root (400km ^ 2 + 300km ^ 2), which rushes along the target (azimuthally) with V = 7,9km / s.
For GBI, the approach speed parameter is limited to 10km / s 9, the probability of hitting 60%), higher = guaranteed misses
2. Progress (Union) is docked with the ISS for almost 1/2 days (launch to the reference orbit, transition to the approaching orbit, slow and smooth approach using all the power of the radar and computer and the computer)
3. A direct hit was only possible if when the calculator has moved from the surface of the earth to the maneuvering warhead of an anti-satellite missile: before the delay of the radio signal during the transmission of guidance parameters made the task unsolvable.

The ground-based interceptor Thor (nuclear mark 49 MG with a capacity of 1 megaton, the radius of destruction was 8 km) ....
as a result of 16 test launches, only three (!) missiles reached the target

And then on February 21, 2008, the "successful" interception of the American reconnaissance satellite USA-193 AKP SM-3 ... a decisive role in the destruction of the satellite detonated fuel tank with toxic hydrazine, the presence of which is on board USA-193 and served as a formal occasion for a spectacular interception.

The problem is this:
the counter speed of the target satellite and the interceptor is too high, and in order for a sufficient part of the energy to go to destroy the structure of the device, special measures have to be taken, because most modern satellites have a rather "loose" design and a free layout. The target is simply pierced through with a shell - no explosion, no destruction, not even fragments.
no fuel detonation, no interception

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The B-1000 from the Soviet System A had a very complex high-explosive fragmentation warhead (inside each element a cavity with explosives was arranged, which detonated when the striking element collided with the target and turned a relatively large cube (or ball) into a swarm of tiny fragments that smashed to smithereens all around a fairly long distance.)

Quote: Asadullah

And why, when there are universal ones, I added a step and it's done.

They have other goals, objectives, acceleration characteristics, pitch angles, locations, prelaunch preparations, and cost

SM-3 costs from 12 million dollars.
GBI (at FY2014) was worth $ 78 million
universal Traident D2 costs under $ 200 million

[sharp-lad]

But there is an opportunity to launch into the target orbit half a ton of nuts by twenty in the opposite direction, to get cheap and cheerful.

[opus]

Quote: sharp-lad

But it’s possible to launch into the target orbit half a ton of nuts by twenty in the opposite direction,

1. The opposite?
those. with a tilt angle to the ecliptic 180g?

You drive in a car and throw pebbles: some forward, others back. Which ones fly faster and which ones fly less (in relation to the Earth)?
Earth's angular velocity
The linear velocity of the Earth's rotation (at the equator) is 465,1013 m / s (1674,365 km / h)
For Baikonur it will be about 420 m / s (gives the Earth's rotation "for free")

Unlike all the “normal” space powers, Israel (only) запустил (launches from its territory) the satellite is not in the east direction, but in the west - against the rotation of the Earth. This caused a significant decrease in the carrying capacity of the carrier, since to achieve the orbital (first space) It was necessary to provide speed of the satellite to an extra kilometer per second. But that was the only possible solution. Israel could not allow the missile’s missile stages (and in the event of an accident, the most secret satellite) to fall on the territory of Arab countries hostile to it. Therefore, during the launch, the launch vehicle successively passed over the Mediterranean Sea, past the coast of Egypt and Libya, then along the southern coast of Sicily and, finally, flying over the Strait of Gibraltar, launched the first satellite of Israel into orbit.
not cheap and not angry
2. It is also necessary to "hit" at a convergence speed of 14-20 km / s
GBI at approach speeds of 10 km / s gives the probability of defeat by maneuvering EKV at a speed of approach of up to 10 km / s = 60%, at more than 10 km / s the probability of defeat-> to 0% exponentially
Here (in real life) on Progress cannot dock with MIR, at approach speeds of 1-2 m / s
Collision of the Progress M-34 space shuttle and the Mir station (1997)

3.Due to the approach speed of 14-20km / s, the nail will simply flash and fly away. Energy will not go to destroy the object

[SAN31]

Sarcasm however .., everything is there and is already on duty.

[Coconut Tima]

Major General Anatoly Nestechuk, deputy commander of the space command of the aerospace defense forces of Russia, said in an interview that our defense industry does not intend to sit idly on. “By 2018, a unified space system of ten satellites will be created in Russia,” he said, “the first of which is planned to be launched in 2015. Until 2020, it is planned to equip the orbital constellation with all new types of spacecraft. ” Undoubtedly, satellite fighters will also be present in the grouping.

[milann]

As far as I know, in Russia there is no official release of anti-satellite missiles today. In any case, I have not heard of such missiles. At VO on this topic was material
http://topwar.ru/22400-protivosputnikovoe-oruzhie-kosmicheskie-ubiycy.html

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: milann

As far as I know, in Russia there is no official release of anti-satellite missiles today. In any case, I have not heard of such missiles.

Or there are unofficially, but classified samples.

[hydrox]

And you don’t need to hear about them: when needed, they will prove themselves, and even with great effect (in terms of changing the state of Amer diapers!).

[mvg]

And what else do we have in the "zagashniki"? You should watch less Hollywood, and read more materials (not necessarily comics). We sold the Death Star to the Ukrainians long ago .. so there are no more aces and jokers. And the new one is not ready yet ...
PS: Viktor Bychkov correctly said one phrase: About a fool, and in store for a hundred years ..

[IAlex]

We don’t have anything like that ... A-925 and S-500 either carry an atomic charge or metal elements to hit targets, due to the low accuracy or power of the engines of the missiles themselves ...

Those. for 25 years we completely lagged behind them ... Although the A-925 was originally planned as kinetic, but for those times and capabilities of the equipment, they could not provide sufficient accuracy and put a nuclear warhead ...

[SAN31]

To school, to learn materiel - there are no such complexes A-925. Yes, and the A-325 was never planned to be kinetic. Sorry, it can't be direct. This complex is primarily intended to defeat the mass accumulation of warheads and not as not single ones. Are you going to remove several targets with one bullet, like a sniper? Complex A is the last frontier of defense when there is no other choice to save at least crumbs.

[IAlex]

Buy a primer to read about the A-925 missiles ...

[opus]

Quote: SAN31

To school, to learn materiel - there are no such complexes A-925. Yes, and the A-325 was never planned to be kinetic.

IAlex writes about rocket A-925, not about the complex.

Antimissile A-925 / 51T6 - ICB "Fakel" under the general leadership of P.D. Grushin, lead designer - V.A. Ermolenko (since 25.09.1991 - General Designer V.G. Svetlov)
long-range missile of the A-135 long-range missile defense system;
A-925 WAS and even there is.
since 2006 - 51T6 missiles have been withdrawn from service, and they are being disposed of.


shooting from the firing range in 2009 (although this is 53T6 in my opinion)

Quote: SAN31

Yes, and the A-325 was never planned to be kinetic

A-235 (RTC-181M / ROC "Airplane-M", complex 58R6, missiles 53T6M / 45T6) is a version of the modernized A-135: multi-channel + improved anti-missiles: 51T6 (A-925), PRS-1 / 53T6.
Naturally, there is no kinetic warhead there.
Although who knows
A-235 was not "was", work on it is just underway:
2010 - according to the annual report of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern, technical projects of the components of the A-235 / RTC-181M missile defense system have been developed, a set of work is underway to restore production for the manufacture of 53T6 rocket engines (5S73 products).

[opus]

Quote: IAlex

Although the A-925 was originally planned as kinetic, but for those times

no
Not when. Initially SBN: 10-20 kT or from 1 MT to 2-3 MT
1.TTH radar "Don-2N":

Coordinate measurement accuracy:
- in range - 200 (100) m
- by elevation - 0,02-0,04 (0,06) deg.
for this reason, the conventional (fragmentation compression) warhead was not even considered
(+/- 200m and +/- 0,04 rad at 320km. How to get there?)

2. BTsVM 5E28A / "Argon-17A" with microprocessors LSI series 583 and IS series 106, 134, 530, 533 it is simply beyond the power (to "hit" a small-sized high-speed target)
* Weight - 30 kg
* Power consumption - 100 W
* Representation of numbers - with a fixed point, data types - bit, byte, word (16 bits), double word (32 bits).
* Command system: general-purpose operators, special operators, standard procedure operators.
* The number of commands is 132. The addition execution time is 2 μs.
* The amount of RAM is 4 Kb, the ROM of programs is 32 Kb, the ROM of microprograms is 24 Kb.
* The number of exchange highways - 8. Exchange rate - up to 160 Kb / s.

3. There was only the 51T6 electronic-weight model of the rocket - a complete model of the rocket with all electronic equipment with inert warhead and inert motors. Used in the missile defense system for modeling preflight training, the operation of the interception system, training.

[Asadullah]

Do we have anything like this?

In the days of the USSR, we had the MiG-31D anti-satellite complex. Today, as I understand it, the C400 can cope with such tasks as special lotions, but the C500 is so directly focused on this.

Dogs: This is not the first time the Chinese have tested this missile. Officially, about three years ago, they shot down their old satellite, the United States stank for a week. Unofficially, the destruction of all foreign satellites over the PRC is a priority at the beginning of a widespread conflict.

[sharp-lad]

The technology for creating satellite fighter satellites was developed in the USSR.

[varov14]

Sorry if not, you must have.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

To the states one more sadness :( And not the last one !;)

[GYGOLA]

Poor Americans, nowhere to scare others ... And what is America without satellites in orbit ...

[Scoun]

Here are the balobilkins ... did the p.n.s.do.s.v at least have a semblance of conscience?

Pentagon spokesman General J.J. Raymond announced that “We are fast approaching the point where every satellite entering the orbital constellation may be in danger.”

And why is this representative of the figs silent about how they themselves are accelerating this process of space confrontation by blocking the UN initiative to ban the militarization of space?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Scoun

block UN initiative to ban the militarization of space?

There is a prohibition for ALL, and in the opinion of the "authoritative state", there should be exceptions for the exceptional.

[GRAY]

Quote: Scoun

And why is this representative of the figs silent about how they themselves are accelerating this process of space confrontation by blocking the UN initiative to ban the militarization of space?

Well, America, in their opinion, everything is possible, but nothing is impossible for others.
And then it starts "and we are for sho?", Just like children, cheesword.

[SAM 5]

we are quickly approaching the point where every satellite in the orbital constellation may be in danger. ”

And then.

[A-Sim]

What kind of cloudy sperm have been painted? Like they got scared? Give me some money ...

[Mountain shooter]

China is hinting at mattresses - in the event of a military clash with me, learn to do without navigation and satellite communications, and most likely without a global network. The asymmetric answer is crane style versus tiger style in kung fu.

[AlexTires]

Chinese anti-satellite weapons, in fact, can be used against any space power, and not just against the United States. From the conflict with the United States, the Chinese will absolutely benefit nothing - neither territories, nor resources ... And the largest market of their producers can lose ...

[dchegrinec]

Everything goes to the fact that, if necessary, Russia or China at hour X will be able to turn off everything in the aggressor country. Electronic interference will seem like jokes ..

[kolyhalovs]

Hi-tech is turning ... Hi-tech is turning ...

[chikenous59]

Quote: dchegrinec

Everything goes to the fact that, if necessary, Russia or China at hour X will be able to turn off everything in the aggressor country. Electronic interference will seem like jokes ..

They will also turn off all computers, exchanges, and payment systems to us. So do not feel much joy

[AlexTires]

It is high time that the slogans on the militarization of space be pushed and openly admitted that all countries that are able to bring their pieces of iron into space have adequate funds there in case of military operations. You need to be a fool to deny it, both opportunity and factuality ...

[chikenous59]

Quote: AlexTires

It is high time that the slogans on the militarization of space be pushed and openly admitted that all countries that are able to bring their pieces of iron into space have adequate funds there in case of military operations. You need to be a fool to deny it, both opportunity and factuality ...

This is just your guess. Balabolat openly no one like you will not.
Can you tell me where our warheads are on duty, combat patrol routes? So that everyone knows and is afraid.

[mag nit]

Again the Yankees scratch their turnips ...

[roskot]

It seems to me that not only China is ahead of the rest. Just do not advertise.

[chikenous59]

Quote: roskot

It seems to me that not only China is ahead of the rest. Just do not advertise.

Perhaps Putin already has the support of aliens with superintelligence)) This is also not advertised

[voyaka uh]

"as the Pentagon is inclined to believe, it is capable of destroying satellites with a direct kinetic impact." ////

Wow! Really the Chinese managed to create a kinetic killer vehicle (EKV)
This is a tricky little thing:

[Corsair]

Duc, after all, a kinetic strike is a stupid collision - a shell in a tank makes a kinetic strike when hit, it seems the Chinese made a rocket capable of catching a satellite or catching in the opposite direction and stupidly flashing it through or ramming it

[voyaka uh]

"stupidly stitching it through or ramming it" ///

Why stupid? You have to get (direct hit) into a small object moving
at a speed of the order of 10 km / s. Incredibly difficult technical challenge.

[Corsair]

Quote: voyaka uh

Why stupid? You have to get (direct hit) into a small object moving
at a speed of the order of 10 km / s.

Because the satellite does not have the ability to maneuver at any moment and move away from the rocket, knowing the satellite’s orbit and speed it is easy to calculate where it will be at what moment.

[CT-55_11-9009]

He has the ability to maneuver. Each satellite has a propulsion system, at least to correct the orbit. Yes, and all satellites are monitored. While the Center can receive information. I don’t know about the hours of communication with satellites of Americans and Europeans, with us it is about 8 hours a day. As long as there is a connection, you can give a signal to evade. Another thing is that because of this, the plans will go astray a little, and the satellite will fail earlier.

[Altona]

Quote: voyaka uh

Wow! Really the Chinese managed to create a kinetic killer vehicle

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And how was the satellite shot down? The rocket itself "found" it? Or were they strongly prompted to the rocket?

[voyaka uh]

The missile is first aimed at the radar. Comp. calculates
satellite and rocket trajectories, and the rocket goes to intercept.
When it approaches the satellite, they release the "killer" typewriter.
He steers to the satellite using his own GOS and motor
and rams it.
The future Russian S-500 will work something like this, only
instead of a direct ram they will try to destroy the satellite with shrapnel
after the explosion of a warhead.

[opus]

Quote: voyaka uh

He steers to the satellite using his own GOS and motor
and rams it.

EKV does not "taxi" anywhere (to the satellite).
Because it doesn’t enter the reference orbit, it flies along the ballistic to the calculated point of the meeting.
And thanks to DACS (what you call

Quote: voyaka uh

motor

) he has the ability to maneuver 3-4 km along this ballistic trajectory

[mvg]

Our satellite constellation is losing to the states, while some of the weapons are strongly tied to GPS. There is an option "neither you nor us" .. A vigorous bomb has already been detonated in space, at the same time a very tiny one .. It seemed a little to everyone. In the event of a major conflict, just 200-400 km will blow 1-2 MTn .. And that's it, NTV will no longer be .. At least we will fight in equal conditions.

[Kibalchish]

This is more like an ultimatum than an invitation to dialogue. It must be assumed that the response from Taiwan was appropriate.

[AdekvatNICK]

need a development program "peaceful sky and space without America"

[DenZ]

Our satellite constellation loses to the states, while some part of the weapon is strongly tied to GPS

Our weapons are not tied to GPS with any part! Do not confuse with your navigator.
And the satellites, yes, in the event of a global conflict, they will be struck without delay, both ours and American ones.

[CT-55_11-9009]

Why Zenith and designed in the USSR. They start automatically. It is necessary to replenish the space group, right?

[mvg]

I wrote somewhere that ours too? I do not use a navigator, I have enough compass. But, to your enlightenment ... we have "bangs" who also use GPS services ... All the best.

[tolmachiev51]

In the field of weapons, somehow they don't pay too much attention to China - either ours or ours, but modernized !!! Here is our first "gift", you should never underestimate your opponent. Soon we will learn from them. Although ours are often presented with "gifts" about which for the time being are silent.

[Old26]

Quote: mvg

He said everything correctly. What I wanted to describe in one word "before" was put on the shelves.
Those. people who in the morning writes all sorts of garbage, without delving into the essence, this is adequate .. and I, who rightly wrote, about "before" - it's not informative .. It's funny.

And it always will be, while there will be fools

Quote: mvg

In fact, at the end of the 80s, attempts were made to make an interceptor based on the MiG-31. 8 cars were converted. Up the hill, the plane reached almost 40 km (38 to be precise) and launched a rocket .. Up to 200 km. The collapse of the union, "Tagged" and everything else killed this topic.

We could not even bring to the level of ASAT

Quote: Phantom Revolution

Quote: milann

As far as I know, in Russia there is no official release of anti-satellite missiles today. In any case, I have not heard of such missiles.

Or there are unofficially, but classified samples.

Officially, we stopped the development of JI in the mid-80s

[opus]

Quote: Old26

Officially, we stopped the development of JI in the mid-80s

Not certainly in that way:
1.Complex "Naryad-V" / Launch vehicle "Rokot" / AES-interceptor based on ICBM UR-100NU / 15A35

The last successful launch was on December 26, 1994, from the bunker (PU) of facility No. 175/1.
As reported, the Rokot launch vehicle launched an anti-satellite (camouflaged under Radio-ROSTO = RS-15) into the reference orbit, where the latter immediately exploded.
The Rokot / Outfit-B target group was disbanded and all Naryad operations were officially transferred to Plesetsk.

object No. 175/1: Lease agreement for the Baikonur complex between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Kazakhstan (Moscow, December 10, 1994)

Coverage of President Putin's visit to the State Scientific and Practical Center published on January 23, 2002 in the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper (the mouthpiece of the Ministry of Defense): VVP noted the presence of the Naryad-V system as a potential response to any US decision to withdraw from the ABM Treaty.
The company's management promised Putin to quickly integrate the Naryad system into the country's missile defense network.
The project was also mentioned since during one of the anniversary events of M.V. Khrunichev in the 2000s.


2. Complex IS-MU / AES 14F10 / based on RN 11K69 "Cyclone-2" / AES-interceptor 14F10
The deployment of the complex’s facilities was carried out in 1990. The complex was put into operation in April 1991.On April 26, 1993, a decree of the President of Russia on removing the IS-MU system from combat duty was issued.In August, the 1993 the IS-MU complex is removed from combat duty.

Ground command and computing and measuring station (object 224-B), special launch pad (object 334-B) .....in 2010 city reports on the actual unsuitability of the facility for operation.
Nothing is known about the fate of the ammunition of 16 14F10 satellite interceptors stored at Baikonur

[opus]

The 75P6 / IS-MD Naryad / AES 14F11 complex is a modified IS-MU / AES 14F10 modification with the ability to defeat AES targets in geostationary orbit - in fact, an independent anti-satellite complex. Development was started by TsNPO "Kometa" in 1988. Design completed in 1991.
TsNPO "Kometa" works great

And so, in pursuit:

[Vadim237]

They have already been discarded.

[opus]

Quote: Vadim237

They have already been discarded.

maybe a couple (or a couple of couples) moved in a strange way to China in the dashing nineties?

China’s unexpected rocket interception of its old weather satellite on January 12, 2007. The Chinese admitted to their deed only on January 23, of course, accompanying their statement with assurances of the "peaceful nature of the experiment." The decommissioned satellite FY-1C circulated in a circumcircular orbit approximately 850 kilometers high. For its interception, a modification of a solid-fuel ballistic missile (CT-1) was used, which launched from the Sichan cosmodrome.

It’s not strange.
China does not have a full-fledged SPRN, cannot make a full-fledged clone AL-31F, wants to buy the SU-35 and S-400 (it itself cannot).

A ground-based anti-satellite weapon

[guzik007]

Oh, and then another time they’re poking fun at a neighbor, and they have the wrong system, and paper boats, and here you go: there’s nothing to cover. It is sad and alarming at the same time.

[Old26]

Quote: Vladimirets

There is a ban for ALL, and according to the "authoritative state", there should be exceptions for exceptional

To be honest, apart from this note, and I couldn't find anything vague, even on the UN website. It is not clear what the proposals were, who proposed what and what. As it is not clear and the gradation of "weapons" in space. That is, if your interceptor rotates in space - this is a weapon, but if it stands at the start in a minute's readiness and, on command, goes into orbit and after half a turn hits the target, is it a weapon or not ...

Quote: Corsair

Because the satellite does not have the ability to maneuver at any moment and move away from the rocket, knowing the satellite’s orbit and speed it is easy to calculate where it will be at what moment.

It has. There is a propulsion system, at least a correction engine

Quote: AdekvatNICK

need a development program "peaceful sky and space without America"

This will not happen in the next 50-100 years.

Quote: CT-55_11-9009

Why Zenith and designed in the USSR. They start automatically. It is necessary to replenish the space group, right?

Forget about "zeniths". You can put a very large and very bold cross on them.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: chikenous59

They will also turn off all computers, exchanges, and payment systems to us. So do not feel much joy

So it’s high time to cover this exchange as an element of speculation, otherwise there aren’t enough funds for it - everything settles in offshore!

[Vlad5307]

And why spend money on high-precision kinetic systems, when the effects of air defense missiles are enough - a dense cone of damaging elements is created and yours will not dance! Cheap and cheerful.

[Old26]

Anton, you’re right, but it once crossed my mind that we were stopping the work on anti-satellite weapons voiced by Andropov. Maybe then it was about development?