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Art and politics. How do Ukrainian artists live without Russia?

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We have talked many times about Russian artists who have expressed their position on the conflict in Ukraine. They wrote about those for whom fascism and the glorification of fascism in Ukraine became a personal tragedy. Who does not perceive the power in Kiev as the will of the people. We talked about those who, favored by the power and love of the audience, betrayed their homeland. Became in the ranks of her obvious enemies.


I will not give out my grades to such people today. I, probably, like most of our readers, have my own opinion on this issue. And my opinion, no matter how the situation changes in the future, will not change. Those whom I consider Russian artists, I will always be considered as such. And those who I consider a traitor, I will never call friends and patriots.

I was interested in the other side of the question. Namely, how the artists of Ukraine live today. Those for whom Russian music, the Russian audience was and is not only one of the foundations of creativity, but also a source of love, well-being, if you will. Artists are very dependent on politicians and especially officials. The love of even a regional boss for them has a completely tangible material background. And dislike too. Now, alas, not 80-90-e, and on the tape recordings of homestairs the name is almost impossible to do. Now one show on TV gives more than years of performances at concerts in peripheral cities.

That is why it is not about all artists from Ukraine at once. For example, take two. A great conductor and talented musician. The first one is currently working with one of the European orchestras. The other stayed in Ukraine. Now, besides his artistic career, he is an adviser to the mayor of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko on culture, and is dedicated to the fighters of the Dnieper-1 battalion. Conductor Kirill Karabits and the head of the Vopli Vidoplyasov group Oleg Skrypka.



I will give answers to the main question of these artists in quotations. So why did they refuse to work in Russia? I'll start with Cyril Karabitsa.

"A few months ago I was offered to become the principal guest conductor of the Russian National Orchestra. The guest conductor is the second person in the orchestra. And the National Orchestra is very prestigious, it is the best orchestra in Russia. I refused. But I did not give a clear answer no, until now.

I thought a week or more. I tried to understand what I would feel if I agreed and if I did not. As a person and as a citizen of Ukraine. In a sense, one can say that the citizen won in me. To those who invited me, I said, as it is: that now is a difficult situation, and if I accept this offer, people will not understand me. I do not understand myself. "

As you can see, Kirill quite deliberately talks about the confusion he has in his heart. Confusion because he lives as if out of conflict. He is European. He claimed. He is loved by the listeners. An invitation to the National Orchestra of Russia is almost the pinnacle of a career. But the main thing I advise you to pay attention to is that he absolutely does not perceive Russia and the Russians as something else. For him, the Russians and Ukrainians remained one people. Ukrainians are the same Russian, only live on the outskirts of Russia. Siberians won too Russian, only from Siberia.

Quite a different motivation for Violin.

“I haven’t been in Russia for almost three years. The reason is obvious. The last time I gave a concert at the St. Petersburg club in the winter of 2013. To see that there is a war between our countries, you don’t even need to wear glasses. What kind of trips to Russia can we talk about Such conditions? Concerns about concerts in Russia are periodically heard. For the last time, in my opinion, they offered to play a concert in St. Petersburg in the summer. I explained that this is impossible. Besides all other reasons, there is also elementary security. to the concert Russian fash sty. It can happen anywhere. Any scandals. Moreover, we sing in Ukrainian, but in Russia it is almost taboo. "

He speaks of war as a fact. And the division of the people for him is also a fact. Not to mention the fascists, who in Russia are a dime a dozen. Even such a trifle as the ban of the Ukrainian language is not forgotten. Of course, now some readers will say, the violin "squeaks" for internal use. Is it? In my opinion, just for the outside. For the European.

Exactly the same differences can be seen in the attitude towards those who nevertheless decided to continue working abroad. Especially in Russia.

Karabits. “I don’t condemn people who agreed to work in Russia. Maybe they wouldn’t do that if they were completely in demand in their own country. And when a person doesn’t have a job in his homeland and he is offered it in Russia, what can one think about? It’s very unpleasant that this whole situation is tied to politics. In the speeches of those sitting in parliament, there is a solid anti-Russian rhetoric. At the same time, many have business in Russia, and they live in peace with it. It turns out that to make some sacrifices should everyone except them. "

Violin. "Certainly, all the artists who performed in Russia lost part of their income. We used to give two thirds of our concerts in Russia. But it’s not just that we don’t go there anymore. I know that the Russian concert market has fallen even more than Ukrainian. Their performers are even harder than us. The overall economic situation also plays a role. The performances have become much smaller, fees have fallen. Now 80% of our concerts are held in Ukraine and 20% abroad, in Europe, America and Canada. traveled to these countries, but now we do it more often. First “The demand for Ukrainian music has grown there, and secondly, we ourselves have become more in need. If someone goes to Russia, that’s their conscience. I’m not judging anyone."

Again, as in the first case, Violin is in his repertoire. He takes care of Russian artists. Cares about the Russian people. In Russia, everything is much worse than in Ukraine. Karabits also thinks more logical. More humanly or something. Politics and everything else for him is just one of the not-so-needed, but for some reason, tenacious features of society. Man needs self-realization. A person needs to build his life and the life of his family.

Why do two rather talented people look at the world around so differently? For one, the situation is completely understandable. And his views are radical. War, fascism, Russia in a tragic economic situation. Ukraine - Europe. And for another, for which Europe has long been the same house as Ukraine, the understanding never came. Why internally can he not accept the fact that he has lost some part of himself? How does the Ukrainian media constantly tell him about this?

“I am conducting the opera Khovanshchina at the Basel Theater. Is it Mussorgsky’s opera. And what happens? Now the composer Moussorgsky has become a foreigner for me? And I, conducting Mussorgsky’s opera, are to some extent a traitor. I asked myself this question and I have only one answer to it. Mussorgsky was definitely my composer. He will remain forever. Whatever the situation between countries, I don’t intend to abandon my composer. You can replace Russian gas with Slovak, but you can’t do that with composers .

I repeat. I did not want to write about the already accomplished actions and the words spoken. I wanted to somehow analyze the internal state of Ukrainian artists. Creative people are best suited for such an analysis. They have a nerve pulled, as one familiar actor said. The policy of the state, the active position in politics, make of a normal, talented creative person a “time bomb”. And quite a powerful mine. Powerful because the creative personality has a lot of fans. Fans, as it is now accepted to write. And for these fans, everything that the idol does is automatically correct. And is subject to immediate copying. "Stretched nerve" does not stop. He requires movement. And an artist in politics is often no longer an artist. He is blind weapon this policy.

And at the same time, an artist who loves his work, who does not try to promote any political views with his popularity, is always in demand. Always love.

Two people. Two artists. Two points of view. Both refused to work in Russia. But how different is the attitude towards them.

"... the work that I refused, would open up new perspectives for me, I could more often act in a new capacity not only in Russia, but also in Europe and America. I would like to say that when the war ends I will return to this proposal and accept it. " These are the words of Cyril Karabitsa.

And it seems to me that Kirill will receive such an offer. Be sure to do. But the “fighter” of the punitive battalion “Dnepr-1” Violin is never before. It is like a stigma. Put once and for life. The violin set it on himself. Choice once do everything. In life, there are many times "fork in the road." And no one will stand side by side and push in the back - go there ... We are responsible for our “steps”.
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  1. DenZ
    DenZ 10 November 2015 11: 38 New
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    Moreover, we sing in Ukrainian, and it is practically banned in Russia

    Something did not notice such prohibitions. Just the Ukrainian language in Russia is NOT NEEDED and is not understood in all its diversity, yes, but to prohibit it ...
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 10 November 2015 11: 42 New
      69
      but I’m glad that there’s no Verka Serdyuchka in the zombie’s boy, and this guy dressed as a woman (I don’t dare to name his man) was so nervous for me
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 10 November 2015 11: 55 New
        58
        Ukrainian in Russia is NOT NEEDED and is not understood in all its diversity
        There is no diversity in Ukrainian! There is a sense of spite (if only not in Russian) of the distorted, invented by mediocre-dyots words-u.rody!

        PS:

        The Ukrainian language was artificially created in 1794.

        The inventor of the Little Russian dialect Ivan Petrovich Kotlyarevsky (August 29 (September 9) 1769, Poltava - October 29 (November 10) 1838, ibid.)

        The Ukrainian language was created in 1794 on the basis of some features of the South Russian dialects that still exist in the Rostov and Voronezh regions and at the same time are completely mutually understood with the Russian language that exists in Central Russia. It was created by deliberate distortion of pan-Slavic phonetics, in which instead of pan-Slavic “o” and “ѣ” they began to use the sound “and”, “xv” instead of “f” for the comic effect, as well as by clogging the language with heterodox borrowings and deliberately invented neologisms.
        In the first case, this was expressed in the fact that, for example, a horse that sounds like a horse in both Serbian, Bulgarian, and even Puddle, in Ukrainian began to be called kin. The cat began to be called kit, and so that the cat was not confused with a whale, the whale began to be pronounced as a kit.
        According to the second principle, the stool became a pidral, a runny nose by the undead, and the umbrella became a rose. Then, Soviet Ukrainian philologists replaced the rosechip with a parasol (from the French parasol), the stool was returned to the Russian name, since the pidral did not sound quite decent, and the runny nose remained undead. But during the years of independence, common Slavic and international words began to be replaced with artificially created, stylized common folk tokens. As a result, the midwife became navel, elevator - pidomyomnik, mirror - chandelier, percentage - vidotskom, and gearbox - skirnoy perepihuntsіv laughing .
        As for the systems of declination and conjugation, the latter were simply borrowed from the Church Slavonic language, which until the middle of the 18th century performed the function of a common literary language for all Orthodox Slavs and even among the Wallachians, who later renamed themselves Romanians.

        I don’t remember the source; I once followed a link from VO!
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 10 November 2015 12: 11 New
          10
          Do not confuse that language with today's. Today, no one understands, except dill. That language is melodious and therefore everyone who took a little to their chests sing Ukrainian songs.
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          1. Temples
            Temples 10 November 2015 12: 37 New
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            train

            I read it on the scoreboard in Kharkov)

            So now all of Ukraine will be filled in.
            Hastened to Europe and was busy.
            1. severniy
              severniy 10 November 2015 15: 14 New
              +4
              There is no diversity in Ukrainian! There is a sense of spite (if only not in Russian) of the distorted, invented by mediocre-dyots words-u.rody!

              Do not be like Bandera and throw such statements ..
              The language is magnificent and it doesn’t matter when it appears.
              based on some features of the South Russian dialects, which still exists in the Rostov and Voronezh regions.

              Judging by your data, these are the Cossacks who moved to the Kuban, (just the same in 1792) learned to indulge from the southerners ...
              Hmm ... I live in the south of the Kuban, your version is fun .., but probably also has the right to life ...
              And with the light hand of such applicants, Ukrainian embroidery turned from a beautiful skillful thing into ukrofetish and almost the symbolism of fascism ... In vain, gentlemen, in vain.
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          3. EvgNik
            EvgNik 10 November 2015 12: 58 New
            +1
            I was especially touched by the immortal when I heard the first time, I laughed to tears.
            1. northern
              northern 10 November 2015 15: 14 New
              +1
              This is which "unmerciful waste"?
        3. reservist
          reservist 10 November 2015 12: 50 New
          +7
          Quote: Baikonur
          The Ukrainian language was artificially created in 1794.

          Well, if you recall the “Grammar” (1857) of Kulish, it turns out that later

          from a letter from Kulish to Yakov Golovatsky of October 16, 1866:
          You know that the spelling, nicknamed in our country in Galicia “kulishivka”, was invented by me at a time when everyone in Russia was busy spreading literacy among the common people. In order to facilitate the science of literacy for people who have no time to study for a long time, I came up with simplified spelling. But now a political banner is made of it. Poles are pleased that not all Russians write the same Russian; lately they have especially begun to praise my fiction: they base their absurd plans on it and therefore are ready to flatter even their adversary like me ... Now it takes me to write a new statement in the same way regarding the "extortion" extolled by them. Seeing this banner in enemy hands, I am the first to strike at it and renounce my spelling in the name of Russian unity.


          Panteleimon Kulish, a native of the town of Voronezh, Glukhovsky district, Chernihiv province
        4. klev72
          klev72 10 November 2015 12: 59 New
          +4
          That's interesting
        5. gorefest7777
          gorefest7777 10 November 2015 15: 08 New
          +5
          for 20 years now they have been replacing the Ukrainian language with the Galician dialect - surzhik ...
        6. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 10 November 2015 15: 13 New
          +3
          as well as by clogging the tongue with heterodox borrowings
          The same clogging occurs with the Russian language.
          1. northern
            northern 10 November 2015 15: 15 New
            +5
            For "prolonging" instead of "extending" I want to knock on the top
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        8. anfil
          anfil 10 November 2015 18: 01 New
          +3
          There is no diversity in Ukrainian! There is a sense of spite (if only not in Russian) of the distorted, invented by mediocre-dyots words-u.rody!


          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 11 November 2015 21: 18 New
            0
            Quote: anfil
            There is no diversity in Ukrainian! There is a sense of spite (if only not in Russian) of the distorted, invented by mediocre-dyots words-u.rody!



            probably because the horse is so ...
        9. SergGrey318
          SergGrey318 10 November 2015 22: 36 New
          0
          In some ways, it reminds me of the appearance of American English. But it’s not so comical there.
      2. Yura
        Yura 10 November 2015 12: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        guy (man doesn’t dare to call his tongue)

        Yes, and a guy to call it ... dumb, maybe "disguised as a woman" supposedly a guy? And then neither fish nor meat, nor a man nor a woman, nor a snake nor a hedgehog, a green toad.
      3. domokl
        domokl 10 November 2015 17: 53 New
        +3
        I believe that the people should know those who supported the position of Ukraine today. agree that this also requires some courage. probably the same as the courage of a suicide who independently puts his head in a loop ... Nothing personal. Just people for whom the Kiev government is dear
        The complete list looks like this:

        1) Andrey Makarevich (Time Machine group)

        2) Alexey Navalny (opposition politician)

        3) the staff of the radio station "Echo of Moscow"

        4) Rain TV channel staff

        5) the team of the portal Lenta.ru

        6) Arnold Schwarzenegger (bodybuilder, actor, former Governor of California)

        7) Ruslana Lyzhichko (Ukrainian singer)

        8) Yuri Shevchuk (DDT)

        9) Nikita Dzhigurda (actor)

        10) the team of the "Ocean of Elsa"

        11) the team of the group "Lyapis Trubetskoy"

        12) Sergey Zverev (singer, stylist)

        13) Deacon Kuraev (religious and public figure)

        14) George Clooney (American actor)

        15) Ksenia Sobchak (daughter of Anatoly Sobchak)

        16) Viktor Shenderovich (human rights activist)

        17) Leah Akhedzhakova (actress)

        18) Boris Nemtsov (opposition politician)

        19) Boris Grebenshchikov (poet, musician gr. "Aquarium")

        20) Anna Sedokova (former member of the VIA GRA group)

        21) Irina Khakamada (opposition politician)

        22) Marat Gelman (gallery owner)

        23) Jared Leto (American actor, singer)

        24) Mila Jovovich (American actress)

        25) Martin Gore (musician Depeche Mode)

        26) Zemfira (singer)

        27) Vera Brezhneva (Ukrainian singer)

        28) Vladimir Zelensky (Ukrainian showman, artistic director and leader of the Kvartal-95 studio)

        29) Natasha Koroleva (singer)

        30) Mikhail Khodorkovsky (former co-owner and head of the Yukos oil company)

        31) Bozhena Rynska (journalist, columnist of the Izvestia newspaper, the Gazeta.Ru portal, and the GQ magazine.)

        32) the staff of Radio Liberty

        33) Snob magazine team

        34) Boris Akunin (writer)

        35) rapper Seryoga

        36) Alexander Nevzorov (former reporter, TV presenter, deputy. Now - publicist)

        37) Nikas Safronov (artist)

        38) team of the portal slon.ru

        39) Garry Kasparov (chess player, opposition)

        40) Sasha Gray (former porn actress, dj)

        41) Stanislav Belkovsky (Russian political scientist, sociologist and publicist)

        42) Artemy Troitsky (rock journalist, music critic)

        43) Femen activists (Ukrainian unregistered women's movement)

        44) Deputy Ilya Ponomarev

        45) Diana Arbenina (singer, musician, leader of the rock band Night Snipers)

        46) Scorpions group

        47) Evgeny Kiselev (Russian and Ukrainian journalist.)

        48) Sofia Rotaru (singer)

        49) Vakhtang Kikabidze (singer)

        50) Mikhail Kasyanov (politician, Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation from 2000 to 2004 year.)

        51) Madonna (American singer)

        52) Michael Weller (writer)

        53) Pavel Durov (founder of the social network VKontakte)

        54) Andrey Bilzho (cartoonist, psychiatrist)

        55) Anatoly Pashinin (actor)

        56) Gleb Samoilov (former singer of the Agatha Christie band).

        http://pressa.today/politics/rossijskie-smi-opublikovali-chernyj-spisokzvezd-pod

        derzhavshih-ukrainu /
        All claims go there.
        1. papas-57
          papas-57 10 November 2015 20: 08 New
          +2
          Europeans and Americans from this list can be safely removed. By the way this conflict is presented in the West, these individuals certainly consider their point of view to be correct. Do they only know about the shelling and bombing of cities and villages in the DPR and LPR. And in general, do they know where Ukraine is located. Something I strongly doubt it. It would be interesting to know their point of view after their visit to Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk.
          1. severniy
            severniy 10 November 2015 22: 56 New
            0
            Quote: papas-57
            Europeans and Americans from this list can be safely removed. By the way this conflict is presented in the West, these individuals certainly consider their point of view to be correct. Do they only know about the shelling and bombing of cities and villages in the DPR and LPR. And in general, do they know where Ukraine is located. Something I strongly doubt it. It would be interesting to know their point of view after their visit to Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk.

            I completely agree .., and of the two or three remaining for the independent person .., and the rest, according to Mikhalkov, are not friends for Ukraine, but against and in spite of Russia ...
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            2. severniy
              severniy 10 November 2015 23: 27 New
              0
              Quote: domokl
              I believe that the people should know those who supported the position of Ukraine today. agree that this also requires some courage. probably the same as the courage of a suicide who independently puts his head in a loop ... Nothing personal. Just people for whom the Kiev government is dear
              The complete list looks like this:

              1) Andrey Makarevich (Time Machine group)

              2) Alexey Navalny (opposition politician)

              3) the staff of the radio station "Echo of Moscow"

              4) Rain TV channel staff

              5) the team of the portal Lenta.ru

              6) Arnold Schwarzenegger (bodybuilder, actor, former Governor of California)

              7) Ruslana Lyzhichko (Ukrainian singer)

              8) Yuri Shevchuk (DDT)

              9) Nikita Dzhigurda (actor)

              10) the team of the "Ocean of Elsa"

              11) the team of the group "Lyapis Trubetskoy"

              12) Sergey Zverev (singer, stylist)

              13) Deacon Kuraev (religious and public figure)

              14) George Clooney (American actor)

              15) Ksenia Sobchak (daughter of Anatoly Sobchak)

              16) Viktor Shenderovich (human rights activist)

              17) Leah Akhedzhakova (actress)

              18) Boris Nemtsov (opposition politician)

              19) Boris Grebenshchikov (poet, musician gr. "Aquarium")

              20) Anna Sedokova (former member of the VIA GRA group)

              21) Irina Khakamada (opposition politician)

              22) Marat Gelman (gallery owner)

              23) Jared Leto (American actor, singer)

              24) Mila Jovovich (American actress)

              25) Martin Gore (musician Depeche Mode)

              26) Zemfira (singer)

              27) Vera Brezhneva (Ukrainian singer)

              28) Vladimir Zelensky (Ukrainian showman, artistic director and leader of the Kvartal-95 studio)

              29) Natasha Koroleva (singer)

              30) Mikhail Khodorkovsky (former co-owner and head of the Yukos oil company)

              31) Bozhena Rynska (journalist, columnist of the Izvestia newspaper, the Gazeta.Ru portal, and the GQ magazine.)

              32) the staff of Radio Liberty

              33) Snob magazine team

              34) Boris Akunin (writer)

              35) rapper Seryoga

              36) Alexander Nevzorov (former reporter, TV presenter, deputy. Now - publicist)

              37) Nikas Safronov (artist)

              38) team of the portal slon.ru

              39) Garry Kasparov (chess player, opposition)

              40) Sasha Gray (former porn actress, dj)

              41) Stanislav Belkovsky (Russian political scientist, sociologist and publicist)

              42) Artemy Troitsky (rock journalist, music critic)

              43) Femen activists (Ukrainian unregistered women's movement)

              44) Deputy Ilya Ponomarev

              45) Diana Arbenina (singer, musician, leader of the rock band Night Snipers)

              46) Scorpions group

              47) Evgeny Kiselev (Russian and Ukrainian journalist.)

              48) Sofia Rotaru (singer)

              49) Vakhtang Kikabidze (singer)

              50) Mikhail Kasyanov (politician, Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation from 2000 to 2004 year.)

              51) Madonna (American singer)

              52) Michael Weller (writer)

              53) Pavel Durov (founder of the social network VKontakte)

              54) Andrey Bilzho (cartoonist, psychiatrist)

              55) Anatoly Pashinin (actor)

              56) Gleb Samoilov (former singer of the Agatha Christie band).

              http://pressa.today/politics/rossijskie-smi-opublikovali-chernyj-spisokzvezd-pod


              derzhavshih-ukrainu /
              All claims go there.

              either I didn’t see, or they missed .., but isn’t it on the lists?
    2. Poppy
      Poppy 10 November 2015 11: 50 New
      +2
      you are probably not watching Ukrainian TV, so you don’t notice
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 10 November 2015 12: 08 New
        +9
        Quote: Poppy
        you are probably not watching Ukrainian TV, so you don’t notice

        - Yes, we try occasionally, although this is a complete hopelessness. How can you understand stubborn guys from a parallel world?
        They are to blame for everything Putin and Russia, and there is not enough brain to look in the mirror. Complete degradation ...
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    4. Juborg
      Juborg 10 November 2015 13: 39 New
      +3
      And what is in Russia, what is better in this regard? I myself wrote angry posts about the exclamations of Akhidzhakova, Makarka, Kasparov and Co. And're coming out for the artists, this is a product of the purest propaganda based on Russophobia, justification of fascism and revanchism. And the slogan, who is not in dreams, is against us, the same applies not only to them, but also to us. I was banned forever for criticizing the Vesti .ru channel in one of the groups. To the channel "Zvezda", my way is "ordered" because I dared to criticize the illiteracy of articles and the complete incompetence of comments on videos and articles (by the way, this incompetence and illiteracy seems to be in vogue !?). So these artists are a product of time and of course a highly paid job (for which mom will be sold), and of course a bargaining chip (Shuster, Ha (v) Napolsky, "95 quarter" with a company of comedians and other artistic riffraffs. , even took a picture against the background of the monument to Bandera with a raised thumb (like this is great) and he doesn't care that his father fought with such fascists, and they shot him in the back. that he was offended by the Russians, who gave him the name, fame, position, love of millions.
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 10 November 2015 14: 48 New
      +5
      Everyone knows, and many love Sofia Rotaru, but with her actions and support of the ATO, she closed her way to Russia. Her business in Yalta (commanded by her son and daughter-in-law) is suffering losses. Anatoly Pashinin - who played the role of a Russian officer in the series "Stormy Gates", an ardent opponent of Russia, a member of the ATO. The fact is that even in the future, if they want to return to Russia, they are unlikely to be allowed in. Yes, and are they needed here?
      1. northern
        northern 10 November 2015 15: 17 New
        +1
        From Rotaru did not expect, like, such a talented aunt ...
        1. Wolverine
          Wolverine 10 November 2015 22: 24 New
          0
          Yes, she’s old, sclerosis, so she forgot to whom she owes her well-being and everything that she achieved.
    6. vitalius
      vitalius 11 November 2015 19: 16 New
      0
      The article is nothing. How they live ... Yes, do not care how, let their life live as they see fit. Fatty minus the article.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 10 November 2015 11: 38 New
    13
    But Skrypka will never be a "fighter" of the "Dnepr-1" punitive battalion. It's like a stigma.

    It may well be ... like MAKAREVICH who, speaking in his words, I consider as .... an abusive word (removed by the moderators, can be found on other sites).
    I have a very good attitude to Ukrainian songs ... many of them I like to sing and therefore I am very sorry that UKRAINE has now moved away from us in the direction of European culture that is alien to me.
    1. sannych
      sannych 10 November 2015 11: 45 New
      +6
      "... ordained to the battalion" Dnepr-1 ".
      What kind of dedication is this? It’s a good word, it’s just not worth it to apply it to the Violin, as it is used in uroSMI. He is tied to a battalion of national troops, so, it seems to me, more correctly.
    2. Altona
      Altona 10 November 2015 12: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I have a very good attitude to Ukrainian songs ... many of them I like to sing and therefore I am very sorry that UKRAINE has now moved away from us in the direction of European culture that is alien to me.

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      Me too, because they are sung everywhere, both in Voronezh and in Perm, despite the presence of a "Bashkir-Tatar population" (I met this combination in Chelyabinsk - "a disco for the Bashkir-Tatar population" laughing ) ... And "Chervona Rutu", "Nese Galya water", "Tie me pidmanula", "Rospryagayti cotton horses" - we always sing these songs, our fathers and grandfathers sang them, and our ancestors almost all fought in Ukraine. ..And what can I say for the artists? Firstly, in the West, small-town culture is not needed, they have this rich, with embroidered shirts, with mandolins, with ribbons in their hair; secondly, the Ukrainian culture was fueled by the Russian culture and now the Ukrainian culture will be rapidly lost as it was Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian before it; thirdly, Andryusha Danilko inadvertently sang "Lasha Tumbai" according to him and immediately disappeared into oblivion, although he apologized for a long time afterwards ...
      1. Lone wolf
        Lone wolf 10 November 2015 17: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I have a very good attitude to Ukrainian songs ... many of them I like to sing and therefore I am very sorry that UKRAINE has now moved away from us in the direction of European culture that is alien to me.

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        Me too, because they are sung everywhere, both in Voronezh and in Perm, despite the presence of a "Bashkir-Tatar population" (I met this combination in Chelyabinsk - "a disco for the Bashkir-Tatar population" laughing ) ... And "Chervona Rutu", "Nese Galya water", "Tie me pidmanula", "Rospryagayti cotton horses" - we always sing these songs, our fathers and grandfathers sang them, and our ancestors almost all fought in Ukraine. ..And what can I say for the artists? Firstly, in the West, small-town culture is not needed, they have this rich, with embroidered shirts, with mandolins, with ribbons in their hair; secondly, the Ukrainian culture was fueled by the Russian culture and now the Ukrainian culture will be rapidly lost as it was Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian before it; thirdly, Andryusha Danilko inadvertently sang "Lasha Tumbai" according to him and immediately disappeared into oblivion, although he apologized for a long time afterwards ...
        Well, the ensemble of Alexandrov is performed by You me less than a kidman ... [media = http: ////www.youtube.com/watch? V = 9kVS2CLlEo8]
        1. Lone wolf
          Lone wolf 10 November 2015 18: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Lone Wolf
          Quote: Altona
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          I have a very good attitude to Ukrainian songs ... many of them I like to sing and therefore I am very sorry that UKRAINE has now moved away from us in the direction of European culture that is alien to me.

          ----------------------
          Me too, because they are sung everywhere, both in Voronezh and in Perm, despite the presence of a "Bashkir-Tatar population" (I met this combination in Chelyabinsk - "a disco for the Bashkir-Tatar population" laughing ) ... And "Chervona Rutu", "Nese Galya water", "Tie me pidmanula", "Rospryagayti cotton horses" - we always sing these songs, our fathers and grandfathers sang them, and our ancestors almost all fought in Ukraine. ..And what can I say for the artists? Firstly, in the West, small-town culture is not needed, they have this rich, with embroidered shirts, with mandolins, with ribbons in their hair; secondly, the Ukrainian culture was fueled by the Russian culture and now the Ukrainian culture will be rapidly lost as it was Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian before it; thirdly, Andryusha Danilko inadvertently sang "Lasha Tumbai" according to him and immediately disappeared into oblivion, although he apologized for a long time afterwards ...
          Well, the ensemble of Alexandrov is performed by You me less than a kidman ... [media = http: ////www.youtube.com/watch? V = 9kVS2CLlEo8]
          Sorry confused the Academic Ensemble of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at the Muse Pause What Where When, but some video does not load
  3. ydjin
    ydjin 10 November 2015 11: 39 New
    12
    That's right, you can’t be a little traitor, or or!
  4. Stoler
    Stoler 10 November 2015 11: 41 New
    17
    Here we can do without these artists. Here, we have established "import substitution" with an overabundance, throw at least half in the trash.
  5. Decathlon
    Decathlon 10 November 2015 11: 41 New
    +9
    The artist’s highest duty is to protest against injustice (A. Celentano). In my opinion, he is right!
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 10 November 2015 11: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Decathlon
      . I think he's right!


      Blah blah. Celentano in his youth was a member of the fascist party of Italy (incognito).
      Now - I don’t know, maybe in the party of dog lovers. bully
      1. northern
        northern 10 November 2015 15: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Lelek
        Quote: Decathlon
        . I think he's right!


        Blah blah. Celentano in his youth was a member of the fascist party of Italy (incognito).
        Now - I don’t know, maybe in the party of dog lovers. bully

    2. veksha50
      veksha50 10 November 2015 12: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Decathlon
      I think he's right!



      Which of the two ???
      1. Decathlon
        Decathlon 10 November 2015 12: 37 New
        +2
        Celentano! hi I do not judge, but I will not judge ...
  6. Nissa-on
    Nissa-on 10 November 2015 11: 42 New
    +7
    This is just an example of two people. But it’s hard not to notice how much pop mold came out of the 404th. Moreover, many lit up in concerts where the loot for the ATO was collected.
    How long?
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 November 2015 11: 42 New
    21
    Personally, I am not at all interested in the position of this "vidoplyasov's cry" and not only because it is known in advance, but also because the concept "Ukrainian artist" is becoming a household name. What have we not heard from these "artists" and figures of "culture" over the past year. Have chosen your path - please. Only then do not have to go into Russia to cut money by hook or by crook. Cook in your cauldron, growing forelocks and dressing up in embroidered shirts with trousers, but no longer poke your nose into Russia you do not love.
    1. sannych
      sannych 10 November 2015 11: 58 New
      +4
      Where did he get that the Russian concert market fell even more? Where are the numbers? And in what foreign countries do 20% of concerts of Ukrainian performers take place? Just to say, it doesn’t matter what, but the main thing is that in Russia it is even worse than in (in) Ukraine!
      What have we not heard from these "artists" and figures of "culture" over the past year. Unfortunately, however rather fortunately, over the past year we learned a lot of interesting things about some of our artists.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 10 November 2015 12: 20 New
        0
        Quote: sannych
        And in what foreign countries do 20% of concerts of Ukrainian performers take place?



        He said - in the USA and Canada ... And there, especially in Canada, there are powerful Ukrainian diasporas ... Here they are singing in front of their own ... So just playing on the audience - "we are touring abroad" ...

        Yeah ... for a rupe ... a hedgehog ...
        1. sannych
          sannych 10 November 2015 13: 58 New
          +1
          Demand for Ukrainian music has grown. Well, yes, at least something Ukrainian is in demand abroad. Yuzhmash was ruined, but the violin performs on tour in the United States and Canada.
          "If someone travels to Russia, it's a matter of their conscience. I don't blame anyone."... Damn, it seems that these "someone", according to Skripka, at least did something unnatural and blasphemous, and he, the saint, practically, graciously does not condemn them. Ugh, svidomo.
    2. Altona
      Altona 10 November 2015 12: 46 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Choose your path - please. Only then it is not necessary by hook or by crook to climb into Russia to cut money. Cook in your cauldron by growing forelocks and dressing up in embroidered sharovary pants, just don’t pop into Russia that you don’t like.

      ----------------------
      As Verka Serduchka dash Andriy Danilko once sang "Lasha Tumbai" and since then disappeared from the stage space ... On the other hand, the project "I Want to Viagra" is quite alive, this is a purely Ukrainian event on television and Ani Lorak does not disappear anywhere, and Natasha Koroleva (PoryvAY) and her husband Sergey Glushko are also in place ...
  8. Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 10 November 2015 11: 43 New
    +3
    they cry and Africa cry - gua. but
  9. e2e4
    e2e4 10 November 2015 11: 45 New
    12
    Everyone chooses for themselves
    A woman, a religion, a road.
    Serve the devil or the prophet -
    Everyone chooses for themselves.

    Everyone chooses by themselves
    A sword for a duel, a sword for battle.
    Word for love and prayer
    Everyone chooses by themselves.

    Everyone chooses by themselves
    Shield and plate, staff and patches.
    The measure of final reckoning
    Everyone chooses by themselves.

    Everyone chooses for themselves
    I also choose how I can
    I have no complaints against anyone
    Everyone chooses for themselves

    S.Yu. Levitan
  10. andre
    andre 10 November 2015 11: 47 New
    +6
    Already bored with this "girl" Ukraine. And the news feeds are no longer full of maidanuts. And the article is basically about opportunists and romantics, everything is like in life ,,,
  11. kotvov
    kotvov 10 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +5
    Well, and how to live on? Well, where are we without a violin?
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 10 November 2015 12: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: kotvov
      Well, and how to live on? Well, where are we without a violin?

      Do not be so killed, my dear. As my wife says (a dermatovenerologist): we overcome drought and overcome syphilis! lol
      And, as my former commander used to say, no names were given in Russia in vain!
      For information:
      The violin is also found in criminal tattoos. It is applied [censored] (by the very same, which are not really men). Girls with such a tattoo are considered weak-willed. Most often, such tattoos have [censored] (corrupt girls).
  12. AlexTires
    AlexTires 10 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +5
    To the lonely individuals who see politics in everything, swimming along its course, but wanting to cut money in Russia, the path must be ordered ... Especially since part of the earnings goes to the ATO ...
  13. Foresterer
    Foresterer 10 November 2015 11: 53 New
    +4
    In Russia, we have better and more famous conductors of some kind of Karabits, it’s he who PR himself, but the cry of Vidoplyasov says everything in the guise (Ukrainian person). He really doesn’t have a face, but a convict.
  14. extremall
    extremall 10 November 2015 11: 53 New
    +1
    at what point did this violin crack? ... it seems like he was born when normal people still turned out ... where it got so covered ... It looks like he studied at Kiev University and was already in sight as a rocker musician. Already then - at the end of the 80s, American anti-Russian propaganda apparently worked in Ukraine with the connivance of a labeled freak
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 10 November 2015 12: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: extremall
      the violin cracked ?.

      "Whole violin, whole violin, run out of violin ..." (C)
      (film "Chronicle of a dive bomber")
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 10 November 2015 12: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: extremall
      at what point did this violin crack?.



      Hmm ... And when did Makar, Akhedzhakova, Basilashvili and some more "cracked" ??

      But they are much older than the Violin ...
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 10 November 2015 13: 18 New
        +1
        On the other hand, in the "times of Ona" buffoons, gayers, jesters, and actors were not particularly honored! The bar was generally fed them after performing in the backyard with servants (at best), at worst - at the kennel with dogs!
        And we are surrounded by honor, attention and yet wander!
  15. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 10 November 2015 11: 55 New
    +1
    Ekaterina Pisarenko
    Everyone chooses his own difficult path:
    Walk him straight, maybe turn off.
    Where to get him happiness, why, for what,
    What is bad for him and what is good.

    Everyone chooses who to love,
    To whom to attach, whom to forget.
    With whom to share the pain, joy and sorrow,
    Leave your own, do not touch someone else's.

    Everyone chooses who is friend and who is enemy.
    To tell the truth or, perhaps, to lie.
    To open your heart and soul,
    To whom to admit directly: “I love”.

    Everyone chooses with whom to live,
    Who to allow, with whom just to be friends.
    He chooses his destiny in life
    And life lives as it was able.

    Each has his own choice in accordance with his worldview!
  16. BOB044
    BOB044 10 November 2015 11: 58 New
    +4
    Songs are yes. And from a non-fallow guy with boobs this is through for others.
  17. 31rus
    31rus 10 November 2015 11: 59 New
    +2
    Dear, in this interview, the life and everyday life of all of Ukraine, some are real, thoughtful, reasonable, other "winds of the time", who do not accept a different point of view, angry and not only towards Russia, but everything that contradicts them, society is quite split and this It's good that Russia understands this and gives normal people a choice of who to be with, this is very important for us and for Ukrainians
  18. Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 10 November 2015 11: 59 New
    0
    The best concept for describing such a throwing is parallel reality ...
    It would seem that people lived, created, united their kindred peoples with their art, and now, on the contrary, they divide, and it’s hard to imagine more betrayal than that!
    One reality changes all parallel hypostases ... Going back and replaying is incredibly difficult ... probably even impossible!
  19. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 10 November 2015 12: 01 New
    +1
    If someone goes to Russia, it’s their conscience
    I doubt that you are in demand there and you don’t need them with your conscience, drink in Nezalezhnaya Ukraine
  20. amba balamut 77
    amba balamut 77 10 November 2015 12: 04 New
    +2
    Eprst, they have straight across Lenin. Each buffooner can rule the state and decide the fate of his homeland. Although maybe the buffoons in the rain are necessary, the geyropeytsy on the Square are already tired.
  21. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 10 November 2015 12: 06 New
    +4
    "Russian fascists" ??????? "The Ukrainian language is banned in Russia" ???? What is this Violin about ??? Is it about Russia or am I living in a different world?
  22. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 10 November 2015 12: 15 New
    0
    For example, I like the work of the "Ocean Elzy" group. Especially after watching the movie "We are from the future 2." The compositions fit into the dynamics and the plot of the film very well. I would love to go to a concert.
    1. Manul
      Manul 10 November 2015 12: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Ivan Tucha
      For example, I like the work of the "Ocean Elzy" group.

      And what, I liked it too. They lost their liking after they rode along with everyone on the Maidan. And they calmly listened to "Moscow kalyaku on gilyaku", yes "To knives .." The brains are riddled with a zombie box and an inoculated Russophobia. And whoever is not zombified, he floats with the rest with the flow and assent, so that fees drip for them, and does not fly into a dark gateway.
  23. Belousov
    Belousov 10 November 2015 12: 16 New
    +5
    If "ordained" as a fighter, it is forbidden to appear in Russia for life. Then he will really go to work in America, etc. Only there the fashion for the Ukrainian land will eventually pass, the demand will decrease. Where will he ask then? Actor Zelensky also squeaked something about the aggressor, but at the same time he safely traveled to the aggressor country to film and beat up the grandmother. Maybe it's time to move on to adequate response? Blurt out something against Russia? Stay at home or fly to Canada, where Bandera will make you one more hero. True, you will get much less money there, if you get it at all. And that something we here too much sheltered any trash who allows himself to be spoiled by Russia.
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    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 10 November 2015 13: 53 New
      +1
      So Arbenina out on the telly appears and Zemfira, too, no one for some reason didn’t drive them anywhere. Violin is like that, bullshit, compared to these ladies
  25. Wolka
    Wolka 10 November 2015 12: 22 New
    +1
    there is a musician, but there is a tavern singer, that’s the whole difference, to each his own ...
  26. kit-kat
    kit-kat 10 November 2015 12: 22 New
    +2
    For some reason, the author makes a distinction between these two characters. But there is no difference. Just one has a harsher rhetoric, the other does not.
  27. Kibl
    Kibl 10 November 2015 12: 29 New
    +5
    I live in a cesspool, sorry in Europ, it's warm here here, it gurgles, so if you, dillies, if you start to freeze in winter without enemy gas, please come to us, in the cloaca! Europeans will only be "glad" to you, there was such a trash here quite a long time ago, well, in the last year, such "happiness" came from North Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, well, you yourself probably know from where. If you don't know, ask your owner, the eared macaque!
  28. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 10 November 2015 12: 29 New
    +2
    How do Ukrainian artists live without Russia

    It was not enough for them to give concerts in Russia. They’re empty, they live as they want, only they wouldn’t climb to us (or anything personal).
  29. Million
    Million 10 November 2015 12: 33 New
    +5
    And I even somehow did not notice the absence of Russian artists in Russia)
  30. pts-m
    pts-m 10 November 2015 12: 37 New
    +1
    that the light came down wedge on these poofs? what to fawn before them. sent in three letters and only. the situation will not change from this. that Russia has become impoverished with its talents? the youth of Russia is making its way and there is nothing to whine that everything is bad in Russia. I don’t like it, no one keeps it.
  31. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 10 November 2015 12: 44 New
    +3
    Most of all touched by the phrase about the war going on between Russia and Ukraine :) If there was a war, in Ukraine they would immediately understand this from bombs, missiles, shells and other interesting things falling on their heads. And also for Russian soldiers on Khreshchatyk and in all cities of Ukraine.
  32. vladmcs
    vladmcs 10 November 2015 12: 53 New
    +1
    Directory of technical terms of the Lviv Polytechnic:

    Band-pass filter - smught tsidilo
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 10 November 2015 20: 13 New
      0
      Quote: vladmcs
      Directory of technical terms of the Lviv Polytechnic:

      Band-pass filter - smught tsidilo

      Ukrainian technical language is also HA HA, unprepared to death can harbor. fool wassat
  33. roskot
    roskot 10 November 2015 13: 01 New
    +1
    A little bit of publicity on the situation. It seems like they noticed them. Let them sing and ride for the national battalions. Nehren in Russia to do.
  34. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    Vladimir Pozlnyakov 10 November 2015 13: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Nissa-on
    This is just an example of two people. But it’s hard not to notice how much pop mold came out of the 404th. Moreover, many lit up in concerts where the loot for the ATO was collected.
    How long?

    With Makarevich, who went mad with Judas after the reunification of Crimea and major tax troubles with property near Balaklava (vineyard, winery, yacht club), everything is clear! I don’t understand how everyone’s favorite Sofia Rotaru, following Judas, announced a boycott and helps PUNISHERS in Donbass. ... "How we can - we help: the car" Niva "was given to the ATO, we are providing humanitarian aid!" And this is the People's Artist of the USSR, Ukraine, Moldova!
  35. nivander
    nivander 10 November 2015 14: 24 New
    +6
    here is a zealous guest performer in Ukraine
  36. AlexSam
    AlexSam 10 November 2015 15: 34 New
    +2
    in fact, Skrypka has never been a tavern musician and bullshit ... punk, which ones to look for! many remember the 88th year, "Look", the clip "Dances" ... and how many really cool songs "Yells" have and do not care that they are in Ukrainian, the energy has no language ... we listen to "Pink Floyd" and do we admit that this is the standard? yes, we admit! but the fact that he repainted and sold out, so now ... there was a musician Oleg Violin, a Nazi Violin ... the family has its black sheep ... there are now 60% of them ... God be their judge ...
    1. Lone wolf
      Lone wolf 10 November 2015 17: 50 New
      0
      Quote: AlexSam
      in fact, Skrypka has never been a tavern musician and bullshit ... punk, which ones to look for! many remember the 88th year, "Look", the clip "Dances" ... and how many really cool songs "Yells" have and do not care that they are in Ukrainian, the energy has no language ... we listen to "Pink Floyd" and do we admit that this is the standard? yes, we admit! but the fact that he repainted and sold out, so now ... there was a musician Oleg Violin, a Nazi Violin ... the family has its black sheep ... there are now 60% of them ... God be their judge ...

      But how cool they sing ,,,
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  38. gammipapa
    gammipapa 10 November 2015 19: 05 New
    0
    This is where the Russian language was banned in Russia? Slander.
    Yesterday I was just rummaging around YouTube collecting Russian folk songs (I like and listen to often) So I was even amazed - the Kuban choir sings a lot of songs on the Move. He listened and sings well, but didn’t swing, the immediately killed peaceful people of Donbas come to mind.
  39. prawdawsegda
    prawdawsegda 10 November 2015 20: 49 New
    0
    Most of Ukraine is doomed to return to Russia. It will happen soon, maybe later! Let’s see how those who live before this bright day will sing, most likely they will find a way to justify themselves.
  40. Anatole
    Anatole 10 November 2015 23: 25 New
    0
    Let's go further in a minor
  41. magician
    magician 11 November 2015 01: 58 New
    0
    Rather, the list can be divided into groups:
    - senility
    - duped
    - at the feeding trough
    - convinced

    As soon as the people in 404 come to their senses,
    we’ll immediately understand who is who on the list.
    I would like to think that the bulk of the population
    Ukraine, all the same people are adequate and do not want to fly into the abyss.
  42. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 11 November 2015 08: 27 New
    0
    collective farmer violin dancing to someone else's tune
  43. Oleko
    Oleko 11 November 2015 19: 44 New
    0
    "And for these fans, everything that the idol does is automatically correct. And must be copied immediately."
    Something is not very hard to believe.