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Balts arm and drive into even greater dependence

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The purchase of 100 infantry combat vehicles (BMP), coupled with the planned acquisition of German self-propelled artillery (POW) Pzh-20 caliber 2000mm about 155, will significantly strengthen the armed forces of Lithuania. In fact, there are no BMPs in service with the Lithuanian army - the Baltic country can “boast”, according to various sources, from 130 to 200 units of American M113A1 armored personnel carriers, SAUs are also not, there are only towable M105 and 101-mm M120 and XNUMX-mm mortar towed guns .

Of course, such a gain is absolutely not enough to threaten Russia directly, nevertheless, the Balts are actively arming, apparently, at the same time, driving their new allies into even greater dependence and debt.

As for the choice between the American BMP Stryker and the German Boxer, then the Lithuanian media got excited with the estimates and did not understand the topic, calling the “American” a mere transport. Stryker is noticeably more serious machine than the Piranha BMP, which are set as an example (in fact, they are their development). As for the Boxer, this BMP is almost X times heavier than the American competitor, and it’s quite debatable which of the machines will be more effective in battle. Nevertheless, the Americans will certainly push their proposal in any case, depriving the Germans of profit - it was not for nothing that money and time was spent on creating a “Russian threat”. Now it's time to reap the rewards - sell to "allies" weapon for millions and billions of dollars, despite the fact that they have no real adversary, and the supposed all the same is ten times stronger.

As REGNUM reported earlier, the competition for the most expensive purchase in stories Lithuanian army - for the purchase of infantry fighting vehicles. And if a month ago, the country's authorities were inclined to buy hundreds of German Boxer armored personnel carriers, then at the moment “all the cards were confused” by the US proposal, or rather, the permission of the US State Department to sell the Stryker infantry fighting system to Lithuania, who had repeatedly visited various NATO ground forces exercises in Lithuania. True, the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense does not comment on the new proposal, concisely stating that the competition is ongoing, and the decision will appear later this year.

The US Department of State allowed Lithuania to sell the 84 Stryker, equipment for them, and provide all kinds of technical support. This writes the American portal armyrecognition.com. The amount of the transaction is even higher than the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense originally planned - 550 million euros.

The Lithuanian media was "hostile" met by such a proposal, while Lithuanian military experts criticized it. Thus, the military expert Audrius Baciulis told the Lithuanian portal 15min that the proposal of the Americans is significantly inferior to the proposal of Germany, and therefore, if such a decision is made, it will be political. Stryker - two generations inferior to the American Piranha BMP, which in their TTX are similar to the German Boxer. According to him, the Stryker only brings the infantry to the battlefield, but does not participate in them. This is essentially a transport.
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  1. venaya
    venaya 10 November 2015 10: 24 New
    +3
    The transaction amount is even higher than originally planned by the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania - 550 million euros.

    What are they rolling a tantrum there, they want to scare? More like regular scarecrows for us, no more. Or maybe they really drive the Balts into debt dependence?
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 10 November 2015 10: 28 New
      +7
      And at the same time Ben Hodzhis tells the Balts that Russia has such a strong army that it will stop any army in this region))) The Balts do not have a voice at all and have become pocket dogs, who are periodically given the command "voice" when a neighbor's pit bull passes by.
      1. venaya
        venaya 10 November 2015 10: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: vodolaz
        Ben Hodgis tells the Baltic states that Russia has such a strong army that it will stop any army in this region

        And what does he mean by that? Strakhov is catching up on the fact that their own population does not support this acupatory power, as they have always held on to the fears and deception of "their" population.
      2. Finches
        Finches 10 November 2015 10: 49 New
        +7
        Why the Balts do not have their own voice !? You are mistaken! When the Balts from across the ocean say:

        - Voice!
        They whistle together:
        "Gavas! Havas! Havas!"

        laughing
        1. gunter_laux
          gunter_laux 10 November 2015 11: 20 New
          -1
          idiotas am what language is it more habitual for the parish to speak? Do we understand German? Havas, hawas ... Mudayuk!
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 10 November 2015 10: 48 New
      +4
      Any country that is not a manufacturer of weapons and military equipment is dependent on any manufacturing countries. Unless, of course, the Balts understand that they do not need this weapon, since no one is going to attack them. Nobody needs them and we, in particular. And 100 bmp and 20 self-propelled guns "do not make the weather."
      1. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 10 November 2015 12: 51 New
        +1
        The owner said, the mongrel should do it, and maybe get it in the ass.
      2. Altona
        Altona 10 November 2015 14: 17 New
        0
        Quote: marlin1203
        Any country that is not a manufacturer of military hardware is dependent on any producer country. Unless, of course, the Balts understand that they do not need this weapon, since no one is going to attack them.

        ----------------------
        Yes, even if they attack, even if we do, hypothetically ... What, these iron boxes will save their infantry? Apparently the experience of Donbass, where tanks easily blaze, not that these cans do not teach them? Buy armored "trash" for billions, without combat and assault aircraft and air defense, why ask? Well, they know better, of course, then they will buy spare parts and service, ammunition by itself ... Business, nothing personal ...
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 10 November 2015 11: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: venaya
      What are they rolling a tantrum there, they want to scare? More like regular scarecrows for us, no more. Or maybe they really drive the Balts into debt dependence?

      Vyacheslav, where did you "see" the hysteria in the article? There is talk about the economic component of the rearmament of the Lithuanian army in the light of political and economic competition, but there is no hysteria.
      Dear, when you write something, think it over at least before clicking the "Add" button, otherwise you look ridiculous enough in your rush to post a comment. hi
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 10 November 2015 12: 18 New
        +1
        They wound themselves up, now they won't stop from hysteria. The economy is under the skirting board, the youth moved to the West as servants. And Russia needs them, like that "elusive Joe".
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 10 November 2015 20: 20 New
          0
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          They themselves have wound themselves up, now they will not stop from hysteria.

          The Americans cheated them, well, you can’t refuse a person to voluntarily stick his head in a loop
          Americans will certainly sell their offer in any case, depriving the Germans of profit - it was not in vain that money and time were spent on creating the “Russian threat”.
  2. Tor5
    Tor5 10 November 2015 10: 26 New
    0
    It would be better if they were engaged in sprats ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 November 2015 11: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: Tor5
      It would be better if they were engaged in sprats ...

      They do not have enough metal for the production of sprat containers, so the mattresses are being driven to them by the second metal to be rolled into tin with "someone's" help.
      We have all the "technologies" for this - they ask for it, we will help)))
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 10 November 2015 12: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Tor5
        It would be better if they were engaged in sprats ...

        Their hard workers all parted, and soon the sprats will be nobody to do.
        1. amirbek
          amirbek 10 November 2015 12: 53 New
          0
          I remember my happy childhood in the 80s in Šiauliai ... well, real communism smile
  3. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 10 November 2015 10: 27 New
    +4
    Already laid out this picture. Do not plus. Just relevant.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 November 2015 10: 28 New
    +1
    Nothing personal just business. And what kind of aircraft is this? The number varies in the size of the regiment - the battalion. Storm in a glass of water. But how much noise!
  5. inferno_nv
    inferno_nv 10 November 2015 10: 29 New
    +2
    The Balts recently remind children of whom they told a terrible bedtime story! Now it’s impossible to eat or sleep, because of fear they can’t get off the toilet! belay
  6. Klibanophoros
    Klibanophoros 10 November 2015 10: 29 New
    +1
    This is not our concern: if they chose the path of cannon fodder, it means that they need a way there.
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 10 November 2015 10: 32 New
    +1
    Why do they need it ??? Well, buy 100pcs, so what?
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 10 November 2015 11: 54 New
      0
      money will be sawed
      no more reason
  8. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 10 November 2015 10: 38 New
    +2
    They just launder money and rob new "SELF". fool
  9. SAM 5
    SAM 5 10 November 2015 10: 40 New
    +3
    And if a month ago, the country's authorities were inclined to buy hundreds of German Boxer armored personnel carriers, then at the moment "the whole card was confused" by the US proposal, or rather, the permission of the US State Department to sell the Stryker BMP to Lithuania

    And then πndos jumped over the chances. And to idiots-Chukhontsev what tries difference.
  10. Arkan
    Arkan 10 November 2015 10: 40 New
    +4
    Nevertheless, the Americans will certainly sell their offer in any case, depriving the Germans of profit - it was not in vain that money and time were spent on creating the “Russian threat”. Now it’s time to reap the benefits of selling millions and billions of dollars to “allies”, despite the fact that they don’t have a real enemy, but the alleged one is still ten times stronger.


    That's the whole open secret. The author of the article is right.
    1. sannych
      sannych 10 November 2015 11: 51 New
      +1
      In a real war, if that happens, pah-pah, the use of this technique is a little more than zero. Americans make a profit, and the Balts, without realizing it (?), Provide a profit for the American military-industrial complex, naively assuming that this technique will protect them from something.
  11. Million
    Million 10 November 2015 10: 45 New
    +3
    Government corrupt-get the result. With Russia it was necessary to be friends, and not be the litter of the states!
  12. Ivan Zadunaisky
    Ivan Zadunaisky 10 November 2015 10: 46 New
    +6
    They need the Baltic countries not to be at enmity with Russia, but to be a bridge between the EU and Russia and would get much more benefit from this. Now they resemble the Pug, which barks at the elephant. In any situation, if God forbid, the war begins, no weapons will save the former Soviet Baltic republics. There, in fact, there is no one to fight, the miserable armies. It is necessary to pursue a peace-loving policy towards its neighbors, and not to provoke them. You have to live with your own mind, not American.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 10 November 2015 12: 52 New
      0
      And here is the matter! Well, they don’t lyupyat ruuuhskih ... :)
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 November 2015 10: 50 New
    +3
    Here both business and the desire to get rid of outdated samples of military equipment is not free. And who should the founding fathers of NATO sell to, if not the Young Europeans who look into their mouths? That is why hysteria about the "Russian threat" has been going on in the last year. It was necessary to prepare a fertile ground for business.
  14. marinier
    marinier 10 November 2015 10: 57 New
    +4
    Good time of the day!
    Messrs. RUSSIAN, eats 4 songs saying "Ov4inka vidka is not worth it."
    Mr., with the mass drap of the Baltic, when pozavitsa Ludy poiavitsa’s garrison,
    You will get more, not partes, about the fighting qualities of the Baltics. You would listen to the opinion of our expert at the Ministry of Defense.
  15. veksha50
    veksha50 10 November 2015 10: 59 New
    +2
    "driving their new allies into even greater dependence and debt" ...

    It seems to me that a small part of the Balts still remaining in their sanity sometimes with nostalgia recall how they did well in the USSR ...

    There they were "white" people ... And now ???
  16. BOB044
    BOB044 10 November 2015 10: 59 New
    +4
    Balts arm and drive into even greater dependence
    And when they were independent states. As were swineherds, so they remained.
  17. starshina pv
    starshina pv 10 November 2015 11: 03 New
    +3
    Pribaltov drive in ...... there is a place for them !!!! gags !!!!
  18. lecturer
    lecturer 10 November 2015 11: 05 New
    +2
    driving their new allies into even greater dependence and debts.
    - the principle of modern business: to fool your brains, issue a loan and "knock out" debts!
  19. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 10 November 2015 11: 07 New
    +4
    the Baltic states are actively arming
  20. _KM_
    _KM_ 10 November 2015 11: 20 New
    +2
    Properly lit the Baltic states. They will now owe the United States the grave of their grandchildren.
  21. vbyby
    vbyby 10 November 2015 11: 28 New
    +1
    USA can continue to play their sixes True on our Stioron
  22. kasperian_1
    kasperian_1 10 November 2015 11: 35 New
    +4
    How to easily manage people by instilling false fears
  23. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 10 November 2015 11: 51 New
    +3
    Balts passage yard of history. Plinth of the continent.
  24. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 10 November 2015 12: 08 New
    +2
    Yes! No luck residents of the small but proud states of the Baltic states. Arabs have oil, Avgans have -mak, even Ukrainians had (though not for long) - Crimea.
  25. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 10 November 2015 12: 50 New
    +1
    Lithuanians are so touching :) Now they will buy strikers and everything will be fine right away - the music will play, the sun will shine and the evil Russians will stop looking at Lithuania and lick their lips eagerly :)
  26. pts-m
    pts-m 10 November 2015 13: 57 New
    0
    their info is comparable to the auction where Yankistan rules. Whoever pays more for the “scrap metal” exported from the combat areas of the Yankee army will get the first one with gas, too, parsley. beats you ...
  27. _KM_
    _KM_ 10 November 2015 14: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Yes! No luck residents of the small but proud states of the Baltic states. Arabs have oil, Avgans have -mak, even Ukrainians had (though not for long) - Crimea.


    What about the Poles?
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 10 November 2015 15: 00 New
      +1
      Apple hemorrhoids ... Acquired by "own mind".
  28. provincial
    provincial 10 November 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    I think they will not sell the new, perhaps equipment from storage facilities that are morally obsolete.
  29. INF
    INF 10 November 2015 15: 44 New
    +1
    , and the alleged one is still ten times stronger.

    Take more, but rather do not compare.