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November 10 - Day of the employee of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation

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Year after year in our country there is no term “militia”, but the holiday, following the term itself, fortunately did not go away into legal non-existence. Having changed its name, it is being celebrated today by hundreds of thousands of both acting employees of the internal affairs agencies and veterans of the service, who gave many years to the guardian of the rule of law not only in Russia, but also in the Soviet Union. The official name of the holiday of law enforcement officers today is as follows: Day of the employee of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation. The holiday is celebrated annually on November 10 - a long-term tradition that the reformer’s hand has not touched.


November 10 - Day of the employee of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation


To begin with, it is necessary to recall that the so familiar word “militia” with a slight stroke of the pen in the legal context disappeared 1 in March 2011 of the year. The then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev decided that instead of the RSFSR Law No. 1026-I of 18 of April 1991, “On Police”, it is imperative to create a new law - the Law “On Police”. Despite the fact that a considerable number of citizens of the Russian Federation (as shown by public opinion polls) reacted to this kind of initiative with bewilderment or distrust, the law was still adopted. Moreover, as the authors of the new law report, they took into account quite a few proposals “from the floor”, which were made during the discussion of the legislative base of the Russian law enforcement system with a new name.
Recall that in the 2011 year, if you believe the publications of the FOM (Public Opinion Foundation), only 11% supported the renaming initiative, more than 30% of respondents opposed and more than half of the respondents said that they would not care whether the police remained or the police would remain. Apparently, it was decided in the camp of state authorities that if the majority really didn’t care, then the initiative must be taken into their own hands and renamed. Of course, it was stated that the renaming is carried out at all, not even for the sake of renaming, but for the sake of increasing prestige and respect for the Russian law enforcement officer. But so, any government initiative, if it was conceived to be implemented without fail, is argued with double enthusiasm.

It is worth paying attention to the data of public opinion research institutes about not the renaming, but the real activity of the Russian police of today’s day and comparing this kind of activity with yesterday’s. The press service of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs and the websites of the monitoring services presented a summary of this issue.

VCIOM It presents data from a sociological survey called the “Police: Yesterday and Today.”

Question one:
Do you trust the police in your region?

It turns out that they trust or rather trust regional police 46% of respondents. It is noteworthy that in 2013, an identical result was recorded. Do not trust or rather do not trust - also 46% of respondents. At the same time, in comparison with 2013, the level of mistrust increased slightly - by about 1%. But in 2005, the mistrust of the population to local law enforcement agencies was all 57%.

Question twowhich is very similar in content to the first question:
How do you generally evaluate the work of the police in your region?



25% of respondents answered “good” and “very good”. This, by the way, is a record high since 2005. The answers “bad” and “very bad” were given by 20% of respondents. The rest either decided for themselves that the police were working “on average”, or simply could not give a definite answer.
When answering other questions, the following results are shown.

62% of respondents said they did not know their local police inspector. 18% said they knew the precinct personally. In 1990, the person personally acquainted with the inspector was 20%, and those who did not know anything about the precinct were 53%.



The statistics in this case are very ambiguous, since ignorance of the family name and the appearance of a precinct policeman by one or another citizen may not say that the precinct inspector does not work well, but that the law-abiding citizen who did not do what could acquaint him with divisional in the framework of the professional duties of the latter closer.

In 1990, only 8% of respondents said they would like their children to become law enforcement officers. In 2015, those are already 20%. Not wanting the fate of a police officer for their children - 71%.

And law enforcement officers themselves today admit that the level of mistrust towards the police among the population is very high. There are several reasons for this. One of the main reasons is the media bias observed in our country. This is a situation in which the media are much more actively covering such events involving police officers, in which the police themselves violated the law. Headlines like “a policeman killed ...”, “a police officer in a state of intoxication violated ...” or “a police officer extorted ...” are found in our media much more often than publications about law enforcement officers saving people’s lives, working to curb the activities of drug dealers, illegal businesses and Others. With publications of a positive nature, perhaps, the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the major media rarely condescend to such "trifles". After all, the headline “a policeman killed” sounds much more cashier than the headline “a police officer prevented”; with its help, the media can attract much more readers (viewers, listeners).

Of course, it cannot be said that the relatively low level of trust of the Russian police among the Russians themselves is solely due to the mass media. Unfortunately, there is what is called, and their black sheep, who believe that the presence of police pursuit gives the right to be higher than the law. There are people who are ready to use their official position not to serve the people, but to form their local clan, a corrupt level, often turning into a real mafia, controlling virtually all spheres of life in the whole region. These black sheep according to the laws of the genre and focus on themselves significantly more public attention than honest and decent people in the shoulder straps of the Interior Ministry. However, this does not mean at all that Russia does not notice the successes that are achieved by law enforcement officers. These include counter-terrorism operations in different regions of the country, liquidation of underground “financial laundries” (structures for money laundering and withdrawal of funds abroad), and protection of public order during various rallies and mass actions, and everyday work to prevent thousands of domestic crimes.



On this day, “Military Review” wholeheartedly congratulates those police officers who proudly wear shoulder straps who stand guard over the rule of law and are ready to respond to the citizen’s call for help at any moment. Happy holiday, law enforcement officers! Happy holiday, service veterans!
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 10 November 2015 06: 03 New
    -9
    "Our service is both dangerous and difficult ..."
    Happy Werewolves! laughing
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 06: 12 New
      +13
      Quote: Vladimir
      "Our service is both dangerous and difficult ..."
      Happy Werewolves! laughing

      Neighbors in the country, of course, congratulations. (The array is departmental, I happened to be there.) But I don’t watch the Zheglov-Sharapov-Aniskins around, so "Happy police!" say with regard to the entire Ministry of Internal Affairs, the language does not turn. Too our “police” will have to wash for a long time for their pockets turned upside down by drunken men, sergeant’s boots, walking along the ribs on hard workers, for different Yusyukovschina, for extortionists ... That’s when a generation grows up that won’t remember this and don’t have anything like it will be - then I’ll say: "Happy holiday, dear police!" However, I probably will not see this. People do not live that much.

      By the way, when I hear “police” and “policeman”, I always remember a picture from the Internet: “Uncle, why were your partisans shot during the war?”

      But once there was Uncle Styopa and the movie “Born of the Revolution” ... But what has everything turned into ... “Kill - come”? He himself heard when the only time he turned not even for protection - for help in obtaining information.
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 10 November 2015 06: 31 New
        +20
        . the usual word "police" with a light stroke of a pen in a legal context disappeared on March 1, 2011. The then President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev decided that instead of the law of the RSFSR No. 1026-I of April 18, 1991 “On the Police”, it is imperative to create a new law - the law “On Police”.
        - from article

        Police were renamed to police, policemen to policemen, policemen.
        And this is not a simple renaming of the then President D. Medvedev, who was not very prepared for the post, and even now to the post of head of the Government of Russia.
        This is a change in the political appointment of law enforcement agencies of the state, from the defense authorities of the people's state, the people to the defense authorities of the capitalist oligarchic state, oligarchs - bourgeois from the people.

        So, that is not so simple in changing police to police. As you call a ship, it will sail. No wonder honest law enforcement officials try, even in everyday life, to avoid this name, replacing it with a neutral "law enforcement agency."
        1. avt
          avt 10 November 2015 09: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Police renamed the police, policemen to policemen, policemen

          And whom to congratulate in the end!? VV remaining from Soviet times ??? Not - the service is necessary and the state doesn’t need it without it, but I don’t understand anything - ,, Mumu "was written by Turgenev, and the monument to Pushkin ..... request
          1. Lenin
            Lenin 10 November 2015 19: 25 New
            0
            You can employees, but you can bodies ...
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            2. Alena Frolovna
              Alena Frolovna 10 November 2015 20: 53 New
              +6
              But there was once Uncle Styopa


              WITH HOLIDAY, UNCLE STEPY !!!

              Do you know that the famous D. Styopa was painted with actor Alexei Batalov.
              Konstantin Rotov, illustrating Mikhalkov’s book "Uncle Styopa", painted the main character from his son-in-law (Alexei Batalov was the husband of his daughter). And he joked:
              You have 45 boots, and Uncle Stepa has them too!

              Recently, a monument was unveiled in Samara to the most beloved, the highest policeman - Uncle Styopa.
        2. Down House
          Down House 10 November 2015 17: 03 New
          -5
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Police were renamed to police, policemen to policemen, policemen.

          You have very superficial ideas about the essence of the reform - the police really work better than the police.
          1. lukke
            lukke 10 November 2015 22: 00 New
            +1
            You have very superficial ideas about the essence of the reform - the police really work better than the police
            Do not share what? and how do you rate?
            1. Down House
              Down House 10 November 2015 23: 12 New
              -2
              Quote: lukke
              and how do you rate?

              By the way they began to work.
              The minimum that I can say, the police officers (I speak for the traffic police) at least have become at times more polite to me over the past years - this cannot but rejoice.
          2. 1234567890
            1234567890 11 November 2015 17: 14 New
            +1
            - The better?
            - Than the police!
            - So better than that?
            - Than the police, I say the same!
        3. Obliterator
          Obliterator 10 November 2015 18: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Police were renamed to police, policemen to policemen, policemen.
          And this is not a simple renaming of the then President D. Medvedev, who was not very prepared for the post, and even now to the post of head of the Government of Russia.
          This is a change in the political appointment of law enforcement agencies of the state, from the defense authorities of the people's state, the people to the defense authorities of the capitalist oligarchic state, oligarchs - bourgeois from the people.
          So, that is not so simple in changing police to police. As you call a ship, it will sail. No wonder honest law enforcement officials try, even in everyday life, to avoid this name, replacing it with a neutral "law enforcement agency."

          Nonsense. Look at the initial meanings of the words "police" and "police" and everything will become clear. Around the world, professional law enforcement agencies are called the police. Without any ideological cliches created by the Bolsheviks.
      2. Babr
        Babr 10 November 2015 06: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        By the way, when I hear “police” and “policeman”, I always remember a picture from the Internet: “Uncle, why were your partisans shot during the war?”

        The same emotions. The only thing missing is a white bandage with the inscription "policeman"
        But in principle, why be surprised? What government, such and "bodies"
      3. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 10 November 2015 09: 54 New
        +14
        Zoldat_A "Of course, I congratulate the neighbors in the country. (Departmental array, I happened to be there.) But I don’t watch the Zheglov-Sharapov-Aniskins around, therefore," Happy Police Day! "The language doesn’t turn around with respect to the entire Ministry of Internal Affairs. Too our" police “it will take a long time to wash up for pockets turned upside down by drunken men, sergeant’s boots, walking along hard workers on ribs, different Yusyukovschinsky people, extortionists ... That's when a generation grows up that won’t remember this, but don’t have anything like it - then and I’ll say: “Happy holiday, dear police!” However, I probably won’t see this. People don’t live that much. ”
        What are you all under one comb. Not everyone takes, beaten, extorted. There are all kinds of civilians as well as among the military. I remember working on hijacking, so the warriors stole a wheelbarrow in their military unit in the garages. And what?))) All military radishes and I do not congratulate them on February 23? And then I got a job as a citizen.))) The people drum the bosses to the fullest. We would have lived for such tricks up to the first booze.))) And here they’re smiling. Before you judge someone, you need to look at yourself well.)))
      4. alexej123
        alexej123 10 November 2015 10: 03 New
        +10
        You shouldn’t be so. After all, both the army and the police department are a section of society. In what state is society - such and named structures. Just because of the specifics in them, all problems are exacerbated. In the police department there have always been, are and will be honest guys and girls. HOLIDAY !!!
        1. matross
          matross 10 November 2015 10: 47 New
          +5
          Why did the site administration come down to such "congratulations"? One could simply ignore the topic, at least in honor of the holiday, and not create another “media bias”. This is not a military holiday, so a reaction is not necessary. And about our shortcomings, and so for whom it’s not too lazy to write and remove, ideal media is flooded with ideal people. And then the comments provoked one or two. In general, thanks - spoiled the mood in the morning. And where? On the beloved and one of the best patriotic sites of the country. For 22 years of service I still do not recall such a holiday. However, the holiday is short, but the cops anyway ... then everyone knows.
          So colleagues on the holiday, for sincere congratulations - sincere gratitude. I have the honor!
        2. Mikado
          Mikado 10 November 2015 12: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: alexej123
          You shouldn’t be so. After all, both the army and the police department are a section of society. In what state is society - such and named structures. Just because of the specifics in them, all problems are exacerbated. In the police department there have always been, are and will be honest guys and girls. HOLIDAY !!!

          Wonderful wise comment. Happy holiday!
      5. 1234567890
        1234567890 10 November 2015 11: 29 New
        +5
        The police are part of the people, which means the people have the police they deserve.
        The police are the mirror of the people, not blaming the mirror if the face is crooked.
        And in general, there is nothing for people to spoil the holiday and appetite.
      6. Lenin
        Lenin 10 November 2015 19: 24 New
        +1
        Since childhood, I can’t forgive the police for knowing Dunno on the Moon. How insightful was Nosov. laughing Nevertheless, with a holiday, there are those who really die during the ATO. And I will not congratulate those who are engaged in various abominations.
      7. Rock616
        Rock616 11 November 2015 22: 47 New
        +1
        "for ransomware-gayts .."
        Do not be a goose to a pig (not when I did not consider them colleagues, and they too did us) "for sergeant boots that walked along the ribs of hard workers," I have never applied a base for visas. the first pack didn’t throw power, so it’s not right for everyone to fit in one comb, otherwise Stalin’s doctors’s affairs soldier drinks
        "
    2. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 10 November 2015 06: 14 New
      +11
      Quote: Vladimir
      Happy Werewolves!

      The spirit of Chingachgook’s boot am laughing drinks
      1. Babr
        Babr 10 November 2015 06: 40 New
        +1
        "It turns out that 46% of respondents trust or rather trust regional police officers."
        I'm interested, but did the respondents come into contact with law enforcement agencies?
        Or did they make up an opinion sitting at the “blue screen”? lol
        One example (life).
        Exceeded the speed (slightly) at the sign of 40.
        Have stopped.
        They were brainwashed, and ...... they were released, saying that this should not be done. belay
        Subsequently, passing this section, mechanically looked at a speedometer.
        I really learned that I was caught by a traffic police from a neighboring town. We came to exchange experiences request
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 07: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Babr
          I really learned that I was caught by a traffic police from a neighboring town. We came to exchange experiences

          Duc and therefore let go, rinsing the brain. Who will be haggard in foreign territory? They have this strictly ... God forbid you get them from them ... hi
          1. Babr
            Babr 10 November 2015 07: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Who will be haggard in foreign territory?

            At the very bull's eye! There is even no doubt.
            Only for myself did I conclude that evil (violation) can be defeated only by good (scolded, released)
            Result (subconsciously in this place did not break) what
    3. Ivan Slavyanin
      Ivan Slavyanin 10 November 2015 06: 37 New
      +5
      USU !!!! Today in Russia there will be many speed bumps !!!!!!!!
    4. UrraletZ
      UrraletZ 10 November 2015 06: 54 New
      +6
      You yourself are a werewolf!
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 10 November 2015 08: 46 New
        +18
        Happy holiday to everyone who has a relationship !!! And let the “white and fluffy” scratch their tongues, if there’s nothing to talk about ...
        1. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 10 November 2015 10: 41 New
          +13
          Quote: Prapor-527
          Happy holiday to everyone who has a relationship !!! And let the “white and fluffy” scratch their tongues, if there’s nothing to talk about ...

          Thanks for your kind words! I join in the congratulations of all these "cops" (in the best sense of the term). Sam gave 12 years of his young life to UGROzisk. Worked in the 90s. Without days off and walk-throughs. I lost friends honestly standing at their combat post to protect citizens from criminal encroachments. I understand that the site is military, but still do not forget that almost 100% of the employees (men) were somehow related to the armed forces. Many have given their health and even lives in the name of justice. Even if it sounds a little pathetic. In fact, the militia (police) is just a social cut from society. If society is healthy, then the law enforcement system is healthy. And vice versa.
          "Wake up the day you are in the shoes of the police,
          life seems to you the other way around.
          Let’s drink we for those who are in MUR.
          For those who don’t drink in MUR. "
          V.S. Vysotsky.
          1. avt
            avt 10 November 2015 15: 22 New
            -4
            Quote: Petergofsky73
            "Wake up the day you are in the shoes of the police,
            life seems to you the other way around.
            Let’s drink we for those who are in MUR.
            For those who don’t drink in MUR. "

            ,, I understand that in Tamara - the mind,
            What does she have - diploma and aspirations, -
            And I poured vodka into the aquarium:
            Drink fish, for my birthday! "
        2. Rock616
          Rock616 11 November 2015 22: 51 New
          0
          You are right Colleague soldier drinks
    5. fif21
      fif21 10 November 2015 12: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: Vladimir
      Happy Werewolves!

      Eternal memory to the police to the end of their duty.
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    7. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 10 November 2015 15: 48 New
      +9
      All colleagues with a holiday!
      Police lieutenant colonel in reserve (this is me about myself).
      PS To Vladimir Vladimirov’s colleague - the picture could have been chosen more carefully (as well as the words of congratulations), at least this:
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  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 10 November 2015 06: 05 New
    +2
    happy holiday, mentosaurs drinks
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 10 November 2015 06: 05 New
    +24
    real "cops" - happy holiday! winked )
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 November 2015 06: 13 New
      -8
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      m! (no matter how you are being blamed, but without you there is no way!

      Yes gentlemen, no one will bring you to a pre-trial detention center laughing
      1. Barboskin
        Barboskin 10 November 2015 08: 36 New
        +10
        You don’t like the cops. So this is a mirror of our society!
        Ostap Bender of his life conducted only one investigation in the Kareiko case. As a result, he lost faith in humanity and requested a million compensation. And our guys are investigating them in dozens, the loss of faith in humanity is catastrophic, and millions of compensations are not visible. True, we now pay well.
        All employees with a holiday, good night to you.
        1. Karabanov
          Karabanov 11 November 2015 21: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Barboskin
          You don’t like the cops. So this is a mirror of our society!

          Mr. Romanov, for some reason, did not like the police (police), he starts to itch when he mentions him, so do not pay attention.
      2. fif21
        fif21 10 November 2015 12: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes gentlemen, no one will bring you to a pre-trial detention center
        Before the trial, to the "Stolypin" carriage, to the "White Swan" they will bring and green their foreheads (if they introduce a law of the highest degree) All for you gentlemen are thieves, robbers, rapists and other gangster "intelligentsia" We know who is November 10, we will gnash his teeth "and pisses with boiling water.
    2. the most important
      the most important 10 November 2015 09: 05 New
      +14
      Real "cops" on the holiday!
      Unfortunately, the quasi-reforms carried out almost destroyed the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Who carried out the reforms ??? One who does not know anything and does not understand anything! It would be better just playing in the iPhone and not touching anything ... What are the reforms? The continuous reduction and destruction of personnel working on disclosure and prevention, i.e. directly working on the earth. There are simply no words ... the majority does not even imagine how bad things really are ...
      1. bastard
        bastard 10 November 2015 09: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: the most important
        Who carried out the reforms ??? One who does not know anything and does not understand anything! It would be better if he just played in the iPhone and didn’t touch anything ...

        Well, it’s you who say hello to Dimona.
        the familiar word “police” with a light stroke of a pen in a legal context disappeared March 1 2011 year.

        And 16 billion rubles disappeared from the budget, such as replacing two letters. Easy, one touch. And you say: "does not know how, does not understand." Pros! Here it is. laughing
        1. gunya
          gunya 10 November 2015 20: 17 New
          +3
          the familiar word "police" with a flick of a pen in a legal context disappeared on March 1, 2011.


          Roscherk may be easy, but the consequences are lousy.
          How many professionals working "on the ground" lost due to the "easy stroke" and the subsequent "certification", how many loafers, lovers of "written reporting" increased.
          Interesting picture:
          Until the mid-70s, I personally knew my precinct
          before the beginning of the 90s - knew by sight,
          currently I have no idea about it, and knowing the population of my site is the direct duty of the district.
          This is the "police".
          Happy professional holiday, real cops!
  4. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 10 November 2015 06: 12 New
    +5
    Quote: andrei332809
    happy holiday, mentosaurs

    Quote: Andrew Y.
    real "cops" - happy holiday!


    Citizens are drunks! I’m asking you to go in !! laughing drinks
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 10 November 2015 06: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Citizens are drunks!

      then the Alconauts wink
      healthy drinks
      1. Babr
        Babr 10 November 2015 07: 05 New
        +3
        ..............
    2. 1234567890
      1234567890 10 November 2015 11: 19 New
      -1
      Not citizens, but comrades drunks!
  5. narval20
    narval20 10 November 2015 06: 20 New
    +21
    Hmm ... everyone knows how to blame and "criticize".
    And how many guys folded their heads for the rest to sleep and eat quietly? Without them, it would be impossible to go out on the street because of the bloody scum that “democracy” permits everything!
    And these guys do not like the "population" in uniform also because they do not allow every second to drink, steal and rape.
    HOLIDAY FRIENDS!
    SUCCESS IN YOUR DIFFICULT BUT SUCH A REQUIRED SERVICE!
    HONOR, CONSCIENCE and PROFESSIONALISM! And at home - warmth and comfort. soldier good drinks
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 10 November 2015 06: 22 New
    +21
    Congratulations to our police ... pah, you are the police ... (so that this Medvedev was amiss) with the holiday.

    Without her, there would be no one to stop the bandits on the street ...
    and sometimes young guys perish in battles with them ...

    Police officer Viktor Razudalov was killed in Moscow while trying to check documents from three suspicious men. A resident of the North Caucasus Federal District was detained on suspicion of murder, two more suspects are wanted.

    Source: http://www.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/272086/
    © Caucasian Knot
  7. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 10 November 2015 06: 27 New
    +15
    Quote: Vladimir
    "Our service is both dangerous and difficult ..."
    Happy Werewolves! laughing

    The family is not without freaks! But in general, thanks to the sensitive leadership of Mr. Nurgaliyev, the werewolves remained in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and 90% of the specialists went away, like in S.A. But the werewolves also apply to VS. No offense ... You can’t judge by yourself ...
    1. 1234567890
      1234567890 10 November 2015 08: 45 New
      0
      Yeah, Nurgaliyev allowed.
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  8. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 10 November 2015 06: 29 New
    +6
    Return the police !!! The people demand! When you return, then congratulations ...
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 10 November 2015 06: 31 New
      +11
      Quote: Tartar 174
      Return the police !!! The people demand!

      No no At the same time, we will no longer feed the police and the police request wassat
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 November 2015 07: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Tartar 174
      The people demand!

      Chet did not notice.
      1. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 10 November 2015 13: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Chet did not notice.

        So you don’t consider yourself a part of the people and it doesn’t concern you ... Live as you lived, Alexander Romanov. And many of us grew up on the example of Uncle Styopa, Aniskin and others, and not the police academy, and especially not the police in the occupied territories of the USSR during the Second World War.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 November 2015 16: 44 New
          -1
          Quote: Tartar 174
          So you do not consider yourself a part of the people

          A part of the people came to Bolotnaya with white ribbons, but I wasn’t there. You are also a part of the people, but so scanty that you are not interested in the state. There are even no TV reports about those who want to return the police.
          trifle hi
          1. Tatar 174
            Tatar 174 10 November 2015 19: 51 New
            +1
            Not everything can be measured by the number of reports on TV. Today a lot of things are not on TV. There are no stories about steelmakers, tillers, joiners, locksmiths and other hard workers, but there are many of them and Russia is holding onto them. Those of the playmakers and specialists in the enjoyment and consumption of whom every day they discuss those few, a trifle, but there are too many of them on TV. So what about the one who is a trifle, and who does not agree. hi
        2. gunya
          gunya 10 November 2015 20: 22 New
          +2
          Tatar 174 SU

          So you don’t consider yourself a part of the people and it doesn’t concern you ... Live as you lived, Alexander Romanov. And many of us grew up on the example of Uncle Styopa, Aniskin and others, and not the police academy, and especially not the police in the occupied territories of the USSR during the Second World War.

          In time and correctly said! I fully support!
  9. major071
    major071 10 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +24
    Happy Holidays!
  10. nimboris
    nimboris 10 November 2015 06: 41 New
    +12
    All employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs with the Holiday!
    My brother serves in the police, he already congratulated him today, his name is Victor, and his daughter has a birthday, 7 years old. When she was born on the day of the Police, he named Victoria in honor of the brother-policeman (then).
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 10 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +17
    Happy holiday! All those with whom he served in the Leningrad-St. Petersburg militia, who did not bury themselves in the 90s and other years, fellow students of the first graduation of the University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs! Happy holiday, my dears .. guys and girls .. special thanks to the girls of the hospital of the Ministry of Internal Affairs .. they put their feet ... soldier drinks love
  12. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 10 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +15
    As the police were for me, so the police remained. Everything else from the evil one ...
    The crook ALWAYS hated the cops. Now the swindler has entered public offices and is passing laws to mock citizens. The crooks hate the police and therefore there is a shaft of slops on law enforcement agencies. And people are happy to see how they mock their defenders ...
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 08: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: UrraletZ
      As the police were for me, so the police remained. Everything else from the evil one ...
      The crook ALWAYS hated the cops. Now the swindler has entered public offices and is passing laws to mock citizens. The crooks hate the police and therefore there is a shaft of slops on law enforcement agencies. And people are happy to see how they mock their defenders ...

      Everything said is good and right. If still "here and there, sometimes" they wouldn’t turn their pockets from the hard workers, even considering lighters to be their legitimate booty, they wouldn’t be jackal on the roads - we all see every day ... the former head of the ROVD (they didn’t take off - went to increase!) of Azerbaijani nationality PERSONALLY came for "salary" - did not trust anyone. Yes, and fellow countrymen there ... I don’t even remember about the "Yevsyukovschina". But everyone passed the "recertification of certified, certified" ...

      I miss Kondratyev-Zheglov-Aniskin-Sharapov. Where are they? What I see is not happy ...
      1. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 10 November 2015 10: 46 New
        +6
        I miss Kondratyev-Zheglov-Aniskin-Sharapov. Where are they? What I see is not happy ..
        Can't you see? But they are! And thank God!
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 14: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Petergofsky73
          Can't you see? But they are! And thank God!

          Yes, I do not argue, they are. Somewhere. And on the street - extortionists-gayts, looters-PPSniki and in the police department one answer - "they will kill - come" ...

          Thank God, I’ve been old enough for me to lose faith in Santa Claus and the infallibility of the police. As in the rule of law and the fact that before him all are equal.
          1. Down House
            Down House 10 November 2015 17: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And on the street - extortionists-gayts, looters-PPSniki and in the police department one answer - "they will kill - come" ...

            1. "Gayts" never extorted from me.
            2. The faculty never approaches me at all.
            3. But the police department will not tell you this, all call-calls are recorded and checked.
          2. 1234567890
            1234567890 11 November 2015 19: 23 New
            0
            I do not believe in them, they do not exist! and they are ...
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 14: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        If still “here and there, sometimes” pockets were not twisted from the hard workers, even considering lighters to be their legitimate booty, would we be jackal on the roads - we all see every day ... Former head of the police department (not removed - went to increase!) of Azerbaijani nationality PERSONALLY came for a "salary" - did not trust anyone. Yes, and fellow countrymen there ... I don’t even remember about the "Yevsyukovschina". But everyone passed the "recertification of certified, certified" ...

        I look at the cons - there are dissent? Point show with your finger where I lied. Or maybe I live in one state, with one police force, and those who disagree - somewhere else and the police there are completely different?
        1. Babr
          Babr 10 November 2015 15: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: Petergofsky73
          Can't you see? But they are! And thank God

          Gopher again? He is not visible and he is?
          Honest, normal men will not survive in this system. Either they will leave, or they will be "left." I looked at the comments, I did not find the "acting. One nostalgia. request
          1. Peterhof 73
            Peterhof 73 10 November 2015 17: 18 New
            +10
            Quote: Babr
            Quote: Petergofsky73
            Can't you see? But they are! And thank God

            Gopher again? He is not visible and he is?
            Honest, normal men will not survive in this system. Either they will leave, or they will be "left." I looked at the comments, I did not find the "acting. One nostalgia. request

            What a lot of pros like with the old Soviet quenching in the 2000s was a fact. For myself and many of my comrades, I will say this: they went away as Minister Gryzlov. A rare eccentric with a capital "M". Before him, they somehow survived Rushailo (this is the second reincarnation of Mickey Mouse). Before Rushailo, Kulikov was strange (his friend Ponidelko was in St. Petersburg). From Kulikov, for example, there were endless amplifications (12 hours without payment! And a weekend!). Who worked in the search for Peter in those years will understand. Each of these ministers never (from the word absolutely) did not work a single day "on the ground" with an opera or a district police officer. None of these miraculous heroes had any idea about the specifics of the daily routine work of the "land" cops. Naturally, I have never been not only (scared to say) at inspections of "criminal" corpses, identifications, exhumations, but at a simple apartment theft. These guys are used to solving issues in the “baths” and were masters of the “backstage”. Here they also destroyed the car, which everyone knows as the “Soviet Police.” First of all, they dealt a powerful blow to the basis of any frame system (beggarly wages, the constant humiliation by the hardened bosses of their more professional subordinates, the "cheating" with honestly earned employees housing, the removal of benefits for paying for housing, travel by public transport, the presentation of frankly stupid, impossible requirements in advance, the constant "stick" report and much much more) achieved the main the backbone of the police. Still lucky for those who managed to earn a pension. Nurgaliyev, however, simply drew a thick line (paragraph) under everything that had been built for decades as one of the most modern and effective law enforcement services in the world (This is described in the film “Born by the Revolution”). And the ending is logical: Born KONTRRrevolyutsii -Police. So far, young, slurred, but also not showing itself in three and a half years as "rotten through and through."
            I don’t understand one thing, why the police celebrate their birthday on November 10 and not March 1, for example?
            1. Babr
              Babr 11 November 2015 02: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Petergofsky73
              . For myself and many of my comrades, I will say this: they went away as Minister Gryzlov

              You told from your bell tower. Yes. So it probably was.
              I also want to add from my ordinary layman. I remember the patrol cars scurrying from one drug to another, catching drug addicts. But not in order to detain, but in order to select the dose, and hand it back. By the way, the points were located near the police school. And even an overdose of several cadets did not contribute to their closure. I don’t know about it from soap operas, I am a witness to it. This is evidence of a drop in the ocean. But it does exist.
              Now I do not observe this. Maybe with the change of sign (police, police), the methods have changed. But the gopher has not disappeared. He is.
            2. Bruss
              Bruss 12 November 2015 19: 57 New
              0
              It is a pity that you can not put 100 pluses! I came under Yerin, and quit two days before the adoption of the law "On Police"! All the circus described by you, I confirm!
              1. Peterhof 73
                Peterhof 73 15 November 2015 13: 40 New
                0
                Quote: bruss
                It is a pity that you can not put 100 pluses! I came under Yerin, and quit two days before the adoption of the law "On Police"! All the circus described by you, I confirm!

                Thanks, of course. I don’t understand why only you got a minus. But the point is, of course, not the pluses or minuses, but the ability to express one’s position not in unison with most of the comments, but by sharing his practical observations of what is happening inside the systems that are being discussed at the forum. Sometimes, as I noticed, the attitude to the comments of opponents is pronouncedly opportunistic. Some kind of black-and-white perception of reality is obtained (by the type: “Bulava flew” “Hurray! Everything is tip-top. Police are celebrating the day — were you werewolves "with your holiday. Stupid somehow. I return the plus sign to you, however.
      3. the most important
        the most important 10 November 2015 15: 32 New
        +2
        Where is Kondratyev-Zheglov-Aniskin ....? Unfortunately, in most cases, they are either retired or have been reduced ... Evsyukovschina is booming, normal employees are simply in shock!
    2. Kubyanka
      Kubyanka 10 November 2015 16: 44 New
      0
      Where did you see the defenders, honey? I asked a couple of times for help, the answer from the fat-bellied half-booth with major epaulets (which suits my sons) was: "Go to court." And why the heck are such "defenders", loafers and parasites!
      1. Down House
        Down House 10 November 2015 17: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Kubyanka
        the answer from the fat-bellied near-cow with the major epaulets (which suits me as a son) was: "Go to court."

        Excuse me, what request did you make? Your neighbor owed you money or what ?!
        1. Kubyanka
          Kubyanka 10 November 2015 20: 06 New
          +2
          And why so few minuses, I expected more. Neighbors for money did not contact me. But drug addicts a floor above for ... whether. But "law enforcement officers do not care, because they are not going crazy over their heads.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 23: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Kubyanka
            Neighbors for money did not contact me. But drug addicts a floor above for ... whether. But "law enforcement officers do not care, because not over their heads go crazy.
            Himself how many times he saw in the old apartment. I lived on the 5th, and on the first one a lady with a coveted article for storage and distribution traded on a wider market. So the “epaulets” knew perfectly well about that, they did not touch her - she paid them and was not afraid of them. And besides, she did them "sticks". They are sitting in the bushes, waiting for the sticking out of it with a dose. His DAC! And everyone is good. My wife was afraid to go into the staircase, stuck out on the ground floor, were expanding, cars were thrown there. That was until I spoke to her myself. At least, order has arrived at the entrance, and the “shoulder straps” of her clients on the street were accepted.
        2. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 10 November 2015 21: 20 New
          0
          a Caucasian (dog) somehow ran around the area, gnawed a couple of dogs, everyone was hiding in the yards, was repeated a day later, they were kicked off to the district officers on duty, she grabbed the phone, she didn’t introduce herself, she said that the district police officer was busy, who she was and what she was doing on the pipe- sent tactfully - the next time it was the same (01- the duty officer of the precinct — man — who didn’t say - the precinct is not there — what are you doing there? —sent—) —the neighbor threw himself out of the hunting beast — and here it began — raids on the area - but no one passed the neighbor :)
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 23: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: Leshy74
            in the duty room they kicked to the precinct- there she grabbed the phone; the woman didn’t introduce herself; she said that the district police officer was busy, who she was and what she was doing on the pipe, she sent tactfully - next time it was the same(01- the policeman’s duty station, who didn’t say - the local police officer, what are you doing there? —Sent-—) - the neighbor threw himself out of the hunting beast himself, but here it began, round-ups in the area, but no one passed the neighbor :)

            Here I am about the same thing - "kill - come." All the work ...
            1. Peterhof 73
              Peterhof 73 10 November 2015 23: 54 New
              0
              Here I am about the same thing - "kill - come." All the work ...

              "I feel sorry for you Merzlyaev.
              You are some kind of god.
              In a word, SATRAP. "
              film "About the poor hussar, put in a word"
              Py.Sy. "You need to learn .... yes ... study!"
              I don’t remember what’s called. This is for ZOLDAT.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 11 November 2015 08: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: Petergofsky73
                "I feel sorry for you Merzlyaev.
                You are some kind of god.
                In a word, SATRAP. "

                "You need to learn .... yes ... study!"
                I don’t remember what’s called. This is for ZOLDAT.

                I understand - professional pride hurt ...

                Only it’s too late for me to study - my grandchildren are already learning. And you, if you were as smart as a wuther, you would have driven your colleagues looters and bribe-takers with a filthy broom, so that the whole police would not be poured over these pigs in uniform. And what did you do when you met with an old-fashioned gay guy in the police department, about whom the whole department knows that when he was paid a fifty dollars, he opened the cottage for 15 leyam and bought a car for five? Nothing. Say hello and ask how you are doing. And one such starlier Nassr ... heads to dozens of honest, principled and incorruptible operas from the streets of broken lanterns, because dozens of people face this guy every day and form his opinion on the work of the entire police.

                You can, of course, proceed to the SAR in righteous anger - "how so, because of certain unscrupulous workers ...". Just repeat the question that I asked above - where and in what place did I lie? About the fact that on duty the most popular answer is "kill - come"? Or about extortionists? So you with the crusts may not know what there are. Himself how many times with cops, neighbors in the country went for vodka through the traffic police post and they only need to say the magic word "their own" at the post. And about the marauders-PPSnikov, even fifty-ruble lighters diving, you, of course, in the silence of the intellectual struggle against criminals and in the noise of shootings did not hear? And about the Ovoshniks who came to the falsely triggered alarm and in the form of moral compensation taking two volumes of J. London from the closet - didn’t they hear? Well, at least, books - there is a hope that they will read, and not replace them with vodka. But the boy-PPSnuyu, sergeants who go with shoulder straps on their elbows and shoot to smoke for the future - do not know? they would have taken it, and explained to the youngsters that epaulets should be worn with dignity and not be humiliated by begging.

                By the way, my neighbors in the country, opera, firefighters, former athletes are all pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, half of them have children. The gayts live on the other end of the summer cottage. It happened when 30 years ago they gave dachas. So my neighbors with gayts don’t drink vodka, they say "the cop is not a Kent cop."

                It's for Peterhof 73. When there are no arguments, it is easiest to tell a person that he is stupid. A typical habit of intellectually low-grade citizens to go personal. In essence, there is nothing to argue with except "our service is both dangerous and difficult" .....

                By the way, as in that great movie, I can say that "they shot at me and poked knives" no less. I just didn’t become a looter. Honor is more expensive.
                1. Peterhof 73
                  Peterhof 73 11 November 2015 10: 16 New
                  +3
                  This is for Peterhof 73. When there are no arguments, it is easiest to tell a person that he is stupid. A typical habit of intellectually low-grade citizens to go personal. In essence, there is nothing to argue with except "our service is both dangerous and difficult" .....

                  By the way, as in that great movie, I can say that "they shot at me and poked knives" no less. I just didn’t become a looter. Honor is more expensive.

                  I sincerely wish colleague Alexei if I offended you. I had no such intention. And about studying, studying and studying so it is commanded to all of us and will not hurt anyone. And about Merzlyaev from the film "About the poor hussar, put in the word" so this is an illustration of your reasoning in the framework of this discussion. (Typical military argument in a dispute with a police officer). And excuse me, where did you see that I called you a fool? Just carefully reading your comments, I realized that you are not indifferent to the topic, and this apparently means something. The topic of law enforcement corruption in law enforcement is as relevant as in the armed forces. In my opinion, denying this is really stupid and at least not politely poking accusations against people on their professional holiday. Sometimes you can just keep silent. Right? Well, you don’t like the police (police) in general, and in particular, so what? The reproaches are unfounded about some abstract "gay", some kind of PPS nicknames remind: "if someone, here and there, sometimes." You still do not work in the Ministry of Internal Affairs own security service? What bribe taker and villain did you personally catch? (by the way, in my practice there were such precedents) Regarding my intellectual low-grade ... well, I will not deny it. Professional deformation is evident, but still it’s not worth it to immediately judge and row and then get upset that you were misunderstood. For sim, let me take leave. I have the honor.
                  P.S. The list of expressions you used as part of commenting on the article:
                  "Pigs in uniform", "villains", "bastards", "extortionists", "looters", etc. This is a fact. Apparently they offended you greatly!
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 11 November 2015 22: 40 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Petergofsky73
                    Apparently they offended you greatly!

                    Personally, they didn’t do anything to me except once, when I asked them just to find out what kind of person is interested in me - I have to tell the whole situation for a long time, and I don’t need to. A major from the duty unit called me paranoid and that’s it. Although on the part of those about whom I wanted to know, at least the stopudovskaya hooligan was. Come on, I could have done without them. Well, even as a young man, once with friends we got a hand at a restaurant - someone scandalized a lot, they took everyone, then they released the rest, fined three-year-old fines for violating public order.

                    But for the system as a whole - it's a shame. I know those you are writing about - there are a couple of peasants acquaintances in the local police department, there are several of those among the neighbors in the country - that's all, I’m retired. But ETI, which turns their pockets, they spoil everything, they work against the system, against those who honestly serve and crawl under bullets, they have their own pocket more expensive than the system, not to mention morality. You can not do it this way...

                    I think you know the attitude in the army towards the heads of warehouses, to different quartermasters ... For a long time, in Soviet times, first-aid kits began to come to us without a white syringe tube (without promedol). And this is the main medicine, if something happens ... And it did. They said once warehouse - did not understand. Well, we stopped somehow with an "unofficial check". angry Of course, I got a good conversation with the command, but first-aid kits began to come in the kit ... laughing This is not to mention that in their midst rats never existed at all - they did not even risk appearing. So how do they take root in the Ministry of Internal Affairs? I'm not talking about the level of high command and ministers - there were always enough of them. But on earth? ...
  13. Wolka
    Wolka 10 November 2015 06: 54 New
    +14
    Happy professional holiday to everyone who has a real relationship to it ... good soldier
  14. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 10 November 2015 06: 56 New
    +9
    Happy holiday !!!! Real only !!!!
  15. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 10 November 2015 07: 03 New
    +13
    Congratulations to all involved! Yes, we are not fluffy! But without us, too, is impossible. Veterans - health, good luck and lack of problems.
  16. Kuzyakin15
    Kuzyakin15 10 November 2015 07: 04 New
    +8
    Happy holiday to all current and former employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs!
  17. Masya masya
    Masya masya 10 November 2015 07: 04 New
    +11
    Happy Holidays!
  18. Vityok
    Vityok 10 November 2015 07: 14 New
    +5
    Honest and fair "Aniskin" with a holiday! love
  19. KOH
    KOH 10 November 2015 07: 31 New
    +6
    Real police officers, Happy Holidays !!!
  20. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 10 November 2015 07: 48 New
    +5
    ALL WITH A HOLIDAY !!!
  21. Sergey 2014
    Sergey 2014 10 November 2015 08: 02 New
    +4
    HAPPY EVERYONE !!!
  22. tuareg56
    tuareg56 10 November 2015 08: 06 New
    +13
    HOLIDAY, GUYS !!!!!
    And THOSE WHO WRITE ANY GOOD WORDS TO THE ADDRESS OF THE MIA - WHEN PRESSES, THEN EVERYONE SCREAMS "POLICE !!!!", AND NOT THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, FSB, ETC. SEEING SOMETHING IN THIS IS
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 10 November 2015 08: 31 New
      +2
      Here’s a bribe-taker surgeon working in our central hospital, there’s nowhere to put samples .. I started to extort one woman for disability, she said ... no, not the police, they’re out of turn for this doctor. AT THE PROSECUTOR OFFICE ... They tied me up. The whole district-Beloglinsky, Krasnodar Territory is watching this show ..
      Quote: tuareg56
      HOLIDAY, GUYS !!!!!
      And THOSE WHO WRITE ANY GOOD WORDS TO THE ADDRESS OF THE MIA - WHEN PRESSES, THEN EVERYONE SCREAMS "POLICE !!!!", AND NOT THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, FSB, ETC. SEEING SOMETHING IN THIS IS
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 10 November 2015 10: 12 New
        +5
        Listen, but it’s impossible to put “brands” on the whole service.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. 1234567890
        1234567890 10 November 2015 11: 15 New
        +4
        Do not confuse the warm with the soft! The prosecutor’s office cannot “bind” anyone, it doesn’t have such power, now it is a purely supervisory authority. The Investigative Committee itself is a head without arms and legs. But the FSB will not be enough for operational support and power support of all these helpless offices. So, the police, the police, and again the police.
      4. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 11 November 2015 08: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Here we have a bribe-taker surgeon working in our central hospital, there’s nowhere to put samples .. I started to extort one woman for disability, she said ...No, not the police, they have this doctor out of turn.To the PROSECUTOR OFFICE .. They tied it up. The whole district is Beloglinsky, Krasnodar Territory, is watching this show ..
        Quote: tuareg56
        HOLIDAY, GUYS !!!!!
        And THOSE WHO WRITE ANY GOOD WORDS TO THE ADDRESS OF THE MIA - WHEN PRESSES, THEN EVERYONE SCREAMS "POLICE !!!!", AND NOT THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, FSB, ETC. SEEING SOMETHING IN THIS IS

        here they are, keywords - they have this doctor out of turn. when I needed help - the police - the last place I turned to. And it’s not himself, but they went to the place, drafted protocols and dragged me to the victims for evidence. And then merrily, with a twinkle, they sent out refusals to set fire, shooting, an attack with an attempt to apply TTP ... The most interesting is that when it came to Moscow and came back, my question was resolved, and the refusals began to initiate in the second round, when it was already nobody needed it. 9 pieces

        Especially for tuareg56. I personally have good news about the MODERN police, or the devil knows how I can say very few of them there. I proceed from what I see daily. Personally, I don’t need to level up with Dima Semitsvetov, I am "POLICE!" I won’t shout with falsetics, and the police are the last place on Earth where I will ask for help and protection. I have seen such defenders ...
    2. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 10 November 2015 08: 34 New
      +11
      Greetings to Ruslan. All right, whoever screams the loudest, Bribe takers, goat cops (will be deleted again), at the first problems, they run to the department to scribble requests and ask for help. I don’t know how in megalopolises, in small towns on the periphery everything is in sight, or you people or wastes (there are enough landings). Everyone acting and honored HOLIDAY !!! All colleagues have more health, success, stop stupid reforms and XNUMX% return home from service! There are NO EXPERIENCED GUESTS !!!!! ONCE AGAIN!
      1. Down House
        Down House 10 November 2015 17: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: zadorin1974
        I don’t know how in megacities, in small towns on the periphery everything is in sight — or are you a person or waste (there are enough landings)

        I put you a plus, while I set it, I imagined how the staff of the teaching staff “shred the pockets” of respected people in expensive suits traveling home from their factories, where they work as directors laughing
        First of all, you need to understand that the police are “people too” and be a worthy member of society, and not a goof, then there will be nothing to be afraid of “werewolves”, even if they live in the neighborhood!
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 11 November 2015 08: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Down House
          presented - how the staff of the teaching staff "take away the pockets" of respected people in expensive suits traveling home from their factories, where they work as directors

          PPPs are not picking pockets from directors and top managers. And the hard worker, who, after a shift in the hot shop, went into the bottle and took two a hundred into one dish.

          The directors and top managers just have something to take and their drunk driver and telly will be loaded into the back seat and taken home calmly. And the hard worker of the waiting, waiting for the trolley bus, will be taken from the stop, the face will be smashed and the last one and a half thousand will be taken away, LM cigarettes and a lighter for fifty dollars. And if someone has such a situation, it is purely hypothetically “presented”, then it was quite real with my friend. He could grind the whole compartment there into mincemeat - I later praised him that I restrained myself and did not touch anyone with my finger, escaped with a black eye and a broken lip. And then I would have sat down because of scum very, very permanently. His eye was broken when he said that he had fifteen hundred, and his lip when he praised that they had not disdained a cigarette lighter.
          1. Down House
            Down House 11 November 2015 10: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And the hard worker, who, after a shift in the hot shop, went into the bottle and took two a hundred into one dish.

            And then this hypothetical hard worker "who took two in a hundred"
            yelling obscenely in the yard of his house and arranging scuffle, including upon arrival home!
          2. Down House
            Down House 11 November 2015 10: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And if someone has such a situation, it is purely hypothetically “presented”, then it was quite real with my friend.

            And he should have followed up with the appropriate authorities, because:
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And then I would have sat down because of scum very, very permanently.

            Just the same “scum” exceeding powers should sit down.
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And the hard worker of the waiting, waiting for the trolley, from the bus stop will be taken away, they will smash the muzzle in the department and the last one and a half thousand will be taken away

            In general, I’ll remind you once again that being an drunk at a bus stop is an administrative offense - if you drank some food in a taxi, it’s clearly not worth a thousand and a half.
            For some reason, this is the “victim of the police" - initially acting as offenders always forget.
            But they demand from the teaching staff, who for the most part only graduated from school, in the manner of noble lords.
  23. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 10 November 2015 08: 24 New
    +1
    And I associate this day with the draft in the army ... November 10, 1982 should be at the assembly point .. And then the death of Brezhnev .. the team was sent only on the 20th.
  24. 1234567890
    1234567890 10 November 2015 08: 29 New
    +6
    Such an interesting article - it’s kind of like congratulated, but the sediment remained.
    About renaming. If the name were changed in the year 91st, all of our electorate stupefied by the Democrats would take it for granted. Now renaming and replacing the form is an imitation of violent activity (although the form looks nothing nice).
    About the law "On Police". The same eggs, only on the side. I already wrote once that the laws "On Police" and "On Police" are essentially technical. Both the police and the police primarily comply with the Criminal Code, the Code of Criminal Procedure, the Code of Administrative Offenses and the Law "On Horde", and they remained gangster and remained.
    About "trust-distrust." The attitude of the population is regulated centrally and quite simply. If anyone remembers, the extreme 2-3 years before the “reform” from all screens, pages and other Internet, the police were not watered only by the lazy. Immediately after the "reform" (more precisely - renaming with reduction), the muddy stream of slops abruptly subsided. Now they are rinsing too (in the article there is this - see "media distortion"), but not so violently.
    In short, as usual - the goals of the reforms announced publicly do not correspond to the true ones, therefore the reforms are underway, and everything around is confusing: what was it? What goals were set there, apart from the file of budgets - I personally can’t guess poorly, but there is a general weakening of the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (which is typical - despite the new beautiful shape!).
    The only plus of the “reform” is a salary increase. Well, this is not the achievement of the authorities - they simply returned what they had long owed, by the way, without interest and at a minimum.

    Okay, stop bothering.
    ALL EMPLOYEES (former does not happen) - WITH A HOLIDAY!
    And on your street a truck with watermelons will still roll over, all the success, financial flows and dreams come true!
    1. AndreyS
      AndreyS 10 November 2015 10: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: 1234567890
      Now renaming and replacing the form is an imitation of violent activity (although the form looks nothing nice).
      About the law "On Police". The same eggs, only on the side. I already wrote once that the laws "On Police" and "On Police" are essentially technical. Both the police and the police primarily comply with the Criminal Code, the Code of Criminal Procedure, the Code of Administrative Offenses and the Law "On Horde", and they remained gangster and remained.

      You are one hundred percent right! After bandits broke into power in the 90s, most of our laws serve, only the interests of only this "group" of people.
      A small example, so everyday and often happening that almost everyone had it!
      - this summer, surprisingly, people often began to gather under the house of “drunks” (well, like drunks, a people who seem to work but don’t bother themselves) and every day they “had a rest” in the same place somewhere from lunch to the stop. ! Naturally, under the sunset of "rest" drunken cries, obsykaniya porch and everything around well, and by the night of Mathy, etc., etc. The first month the tenants went to make comments, persuaded everything on the drum (we were drinking here and will drink, and the cops were ...), in addition, these dodgers began to rush and threaten. They started ringing at 02, and then the circus began. If the outfit came, it dispersed the herd and no one was taken. As a result, we reached the main administration around the region, as a madman brought an outfit (though for some reason, private security). One of the employees turned out to be familiar, interesting facts began to pop up: 1. In order to detain the "resters" it is necessary to perform the following actions - find two witnesses (for example, at 2 a.m. in a sleeping area), collect evidence (that people really drank, shouted, etc.) .d.), take it for examination (if you agree, it’s not traffic rules for you), draw up a protocol of inspection (in the presence of witnesses), in addition to taking a “rester” in the district department, bring it with documents and some other little things (already I honestly don’t remember), so for every detainee. Most importantly, if there is not enough evidence or if there is no evidence, it will be illegal detention - the result of a reprimand, deprivation of a part of the paid salary (or even abuse of authority - a criminal case against an employee). 2. As a result of the conversation with the employees, it turned out that it turned out to draw up administrative protocols and detained the local people, because (attention, BINGO!) The large accounts payable by the local population for fines !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Total: drink to health, dear citizens ...
      Well, something like this!
      1. 1234567890
        1234567890 10 November 2015 11: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: AndreyS
        It was forbidden to draw up administrative protocols and detain local people, because (attention, BINGO!) large accounts payable by the local population for fines !!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Well, yes, everyone says that after the reform they try to sit quietly and not make sudden movements - it’s a little harder to run into a promontory, like wet with two fingers, to dismiss or article, the authorities pisses and assholes cover their assholes, all that. And this, with fines debts - from the same opera (if true) Tolkovo was invented, so we will win!
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 11 November 2015 08: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: 1234567890
          And this, with fines debts - from the same opera (if true) Sensibly invented, so win!

          Do not take fines, do not accept applications, disguise the police department ... And inside the barricaded entrances ...
          1. 1234567890
            1234567890 11 November 2015 16: 31 New
            0
            ... to disguise as a glass container receiving point, put the scales on duty, an expert on the scales, the person responsible for the reception - to accept, to breed homeless people (but I still need a political officer, my tongue is suspended). Disclosure trample!
      2. Down House
        Down House 10 November 2015 17: 27 New
        0
        Quote: AndreyS
        Interesting facts began to emerge:

        And "these facts", by the way, are in your own interests, so that there will be less "arbitrariness".
        Quote: AndreyS
        Total: drink to health, dear citizens ...
        Well, something like this!

        And we DO NOT.
        Therefore, complain, our country is large, sometimes the standards of living and order differ even at the level of the district administration, not to mention the region.
        Therefore, do not speak for everyone.
    2. Down House
      Down House 10 November 2015 17: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: 1234567890
      Both the police and the police primarily comply with the Criminal Code, the Code of Criminal Procedure, the Code of Administrative Offenses and the Law "On Horde", and they remained gangster and remained.

      1. They do a lot of things, let's start with this.
      2. Gangsters ?! CAO is also a gangster ?! Maybe you yourself "by definitions" live what the laws of the Russian Federation call bandit ?! smile
      1. 1234567890
        1234567890 11 November 2015 16: 39 New
        0
        Why only CAO? Oh, I get it. I came this, wiped the balls, took out the flan from the safe, hungover. Damn, feel better! Someone here with us? Yeah! Citizens parasites, alcoholics, sand pit? I AM!
        Well, I’m not completely talking about the Code of Administrative Offenses, but whoever doesn’t understand it will come down to that anyway, there’s only one point.
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  26. Mercury
    Mercury 10 November 2015 08: 41 New
    +1
    Our people are thinking about how to make a living with bread, and about half of their devices and renaming do not bother half. Any pensioners automatically say that they are closer to the police. Although there is no difference.
    Because of Yeltsin’s policy, we didn’t save the good from the USSR and didn’t remove the bad. On Sunday Kiselev spoke well about Voikov and renaming in his news. Indeed, the main mass of people really do not give a damn about everything around even if it’s in honor of the freak and terrorist.
  27. olegff68
    olegff68 10 November 2015 08: 49 New
    +19
    I read komenty ... fucked up.
    Military a patriotic resource and not a single article about the mass phenomenon of theft, bribery and criminal sloppiness in the Armed Forces, which empty the pockets of citizens, more than all law enforcement agencies combined. But on the cops with a finger poke and spit, it’s so kosher.
    Once again I am surprised how many assholes among us. Gentlemen, you google the statistics of the deaths of employees during execution, over the past years .... Personally, my head hair has moved - this is a war. And people are serving there now, not thanks, but contrary to .... and you have enough conscience to fault them also, on their own holiday.
    Happy cops ... and don’t forget to slam the stack for those who are no longer with you.
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 10 November 2015 10: 50 New
      +3
      Thank you, fully support and plus.
  28. Captain45
    Captain45 10 November 2015 08: 50 New
    +3
    Farewell to the police: - not everything was so bad ...
    Farewell to the police: - leave forever ..
    Farewell to the police: - not everyone loved the country ..
    Farewell to the police: - in difficult years ....

    Farewell to the police: - night, traffic police, road ...
    Farewell to the police: - patrol crew ..
    Farewell to the police: - tired sleep, anxiety ..
    Farewell to the police: - the last briefing ...

    Farewell to the police: - ambushes, skirmishes ....
    Farewell to the police: - blood of wounded friends ...
    Farewell to the police: - jargon, bandits, arrows ...
    Farewell to the police: - all letters - to the museum ...

    Farewell to the police: - Oath, Honor, Courage ...
    Farewell to the police: - serve in the police ??? !!!
    Farewell to the police: - here is the signature ... here is the paper ...
    Farewell to the police: - we’re leaving just to live ..........



    ******

    Bitter tinctures will not help us,
    Do not "smear" a farewell buffet
    Soldiers will sink into oblivion.
    Those that Felix honored portrait.

    Dissolve like thoughts, traditions
    In a whirl of reforms and pursuits ..
    Unusual word police
    Veterans will put on the line.

    Kadrovichka, with a smile of the Chaldean
    I’ll take my “crust” in my hands ...
    "They say we're police now!"
    "Whoever remains is lucky!"

    "Salaries are said to be huge !!"
    "They will remove the income tax !!"
    I looked into the eyes irrepressible ...
    And I thought: "God bless you" .....
    .................................................. ..
    Someone’s got stronger
    Someone will increase arrogance ...
    I can’t work in the police
    I ended up in the police ...
    1. gunya
      gunya 10 November 2015 20: 41 New
      +1
      MANY THANKS, for good poems (maybe a song)!
      How vital it is!
    2. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 10 November 2015 23: 43 New
      0
      drinks Captain45
      Thanks Cap from the whole cop's soul. Plus, not embarrassed (also from the bottom of my heart). It is a pity that I can’t shake your hand tightly in the framework of correspondence. But I press sincerely fellow
  29. user3970
    user3970 10 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +1
    I'll start with a personal story. During the Soviet era, in his youth, he participated in the Komsomol-operational detachment (voluntary duty at public events, dances, etc.). Were friends. And at the Komsomol call, the squad leader was invited to the police department. A year later, he died from a shootout with a bandit. So, when his body was brought to his native city (Sokol. Vologda region), the whole city went to the funeral. I have not seen so many people together even on May 1st. Then there was the police. Do you know when the cop became garbage? When did you get rubber batons! There is an untouchable caste in India. In Russia, air traffic control. When the head of the regional police department "retired", he "suddenly" showed a stash of $ 87 million. Golovkin (the former head of the Vologda and Moscow police departments) on TV said: "I" earned it "in 43 years of service." Oops In my Vologda Oblast there are no brothels, saunas, baths with prostitutes. Why? Perhaps the head of the regional police department is the main pimp? Now governors and mayors are being planted. And that the chiefs of the internal affairs departments of the planted were not up to date with their affairs or were in proportion? Sorry, people, but the difference between a gangster and a cop is thinner than a razor blade. A person with HONOR in ATC is now the exception rather than the rule. Therefore, I do not congratulate you. I have the honor!
    1. alexej123
      alexej123 10 November 2015 10: 18 New
      +10
      Do you even know where the word "trash" came from? A "LEGO"? This is from pre-revolutionary times. From the abbreviated "ICC" - Moscow Criminal Investigation, and the emblem on the uniform coat were cops. And the criminal elements were “introduced” into our language as a sign of hatred. Do not be like them.
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    3. Down House
      Down House 10 November 2015 17: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: user3970
      When I received rubber batons!

      You suggest that drunks-bandits be held back by the holy word and the sign of the Cross ?! laughing
      1. Kubyanka
        Kubyanka 10 November 2015 20: 39 New
        -2
        Not about drunks. For the rest of my life, I remembered how 2 half-drunk garbage was pounded by these same batons (about which user60 writes about) that my friends, aged 3970-15, had just graduated from 16 classes because they were flared in trousers, then there was such a fashion. And 8 years ago I made an appointment with the head of the regional police department, as the “Herr General” only deigned me for 2-2 minutes after I began to talk about the “heroic deeds” of his “heroes”. And after that I will respect the police?
        1. Down House
          Down House 10 November 2015 23: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Kubyanka
          my friends of 15-16 years old who only graduated from 8 classes for the fact that they were in flared trousers, then such a fashion was

          And then there were no more “mods”; did you drink port for example after or instead of lessons? wink
          Quote: Kubyanka
          as "herr general" 2-3 minutes only deigned to listen to me

          Well, after all, they listened to you?
    4. Karabanov
      Karabanov 11 November 2015 21: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: user3970
      I'll start with a personal story.

      I can tell you such stories for a whole book. Only for some reason, gentlemen, comrades who have their own flattering opinion about law enforcement agencies, recall the most denigrating cases and are silent about other points.
      In this case, I always said - what are you dear, just a little what immediately run to the police and ask for help? Pour mud at all, and say a good word you "not enough."
  30. Felix-A
    Felix-A 10 November 2015 09: 25 New
    +4
    Happy Police Day!
  31. rus-5819
    rus-5819 10 November 2015 09: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: CON
    Real police officers, Happy Holidays !!!

    Exactly! Happy holiday policemenwho in childhood read Uncle Styopa, and then were brought up and served following the example of Aniskin and Kondratyev.

    And about the "cops", "antlers", "werewolves", because the family is not without a freak. The militia and the police of the people formed.
  32. Nikita Gromov
    Nikita Gromov 10 November 2015 09: 31 New
    +2
    Happy Holidays, dear law enforcement officers! But do not forget that today, thieves and upstairs.
  33. Roy
    Roy 10 November 2015 09: 35 New
    +4
    Happy Holiday, dear Police! (police - language does not turn).
  34. Kolovrat88
    Kolovrat88 10 November 2015 09: 41 New
    -15
    employees of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation

    good at doing two things
    1. thump
    2. take bribes
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 10 November 2015 10: 08 New
      +6
      Kolovrat88 "employees of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation."
      good at doing two things
      1. thump
      2. take bribes. "
      Kolovrat ... That is, a million personnel thumps and takes bribes? You would go to the Department of Internal Affairs in your Chapaevsk and say it to the cops.))) There’s something nasty to write ... people have a holiday.))) Although for a person who admires the “heroic” defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the Donetsk airport, they’ll throw mud at all our Ministry of Internal Affairs probably ok.
    2. 1234567890
      1234567890 11 November 2015 16: 46 New
      +1
      And you do not drink and despise the drunk?
      The classic was right: if a person doesn’t drink or smoke, think about it - are you a bastard ?!
  35. traveler
    traveler 10 November 2015 10: 22 New
    -6
    perhaps no more rotten state structure.
    unprofessionalism, often stupidity, is replaced by arrogance, a complete disregard for the laws (they never read the UPK) and all this is backed up by absolute impunity.
    hence the effectiveness of their activities.
    to the service as if specially recruited the most greedy and devoid of any moral principles. extorting a bribe is still the most harmless. the norm is looting - stealing something from the scene is a good form.
    all the generals and senior officers are so mired in corruption that they are already moving from racketeering to the direct organization of criminal activity - why racket, when you can just head.
    as a result, we have the most important organized crime group of the country, and in law.
    happy holiday.
    1. serg2108
      serg2108 10 November 2015 12: 06 New
      0
      hi Well, I probably agree about the leadership ... I have seen too many of such leaders, but about the non-professionalism of the employees, this is a moot point ... although after the reform, there were only a few who could be called pros
      1. traveler
        traveler 10 November 2015 14: 01 New
        +6
        I speak with knowledge of the matter, he served 7 years in related structures - the Federal Security Service and the Federal Security Service, the captain of the police, saw how the law enforcement system degraded every year. what is now is already complete darkness.
        1. serg2108
          serg2108 10 November 2015 14: 25 New
          +4
          served 12 years of preferential calendars, and so on 17,5 ran into the Ministry of Internal Affairs I know the same I saw a lot to tell not one site is not enough but the fact that the darkness is complete and the system is degrading is the right diagnosis!
        2. 1234567890
          1234567890 11 November 2015 16: 12 New
          0
          Yeah, cool! How not flown only? Or, after all, from N-Tagil write-eat? Flag in hand, a drum on his shoulders, an electric train to meet! I burst into it, at one time with your show-offs, into a simple district UR (correct) - your legs would have gone without pants and a bottle in one interesting place.
        3. 1234567890
          1234567890 11 November 2015 16: 52 New
          0
          Quote: traveler
          he served 7 years in related structures - the Federal Security Service and the Federal Security Service,

          What bodies, such and employee.
  36. 35lisment35
    35lisment35 10 November 2015 10: 35 New
    +3
    "Thank you" NTV on the formation of a negative image of the police
  37. Free Cossack
    Free Cossack 10 November 2015 10: 52 New
    +4
    Congratulations to all police officers on their professional holiday! He himself served as the operative officer of the OBHSS, then the OEB, then the OEEP, and finally quit. What I do not regret a bit, but I remember the service at the Department of Internal Affairs only on the positive side. Once again, all a Happy Holiday! soldier
  38. serg2108
    serg2108 10 November 2015 11: 25 New
    +2
    All former and current employees with a holiday! happiness in the personal life of health and success in the service and fight against crime!
    fellow
  39. derjavaklub
    derjavaklub 10 November 2015 11: 34 New
    0
    / However, this does not mean at all that Russia does not notice the successes that law enforcement officers achieve. /

    November 10 - Day of the employee of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation

    Mr. policeman

    Under the faceted shoulder straps are minted ...

    On the golden domes, the splendor is beautiful ...

    The milestone is echoed by the victorious Russian banners ...

    Illuminating the greatness in us ...

    Chorus:

    Mr. Police! .. State Gazette! ..

    You flew the flag of the Fatherland in battles! ..

    It is edged by the law! .. state emblem chevron! ..

    You are the keeper of a great day! ..

    The century gloriously breathes with an insightful stronghold ...

    The revived stats are strong! ..

    And the pulse of nerve-hazardous work is bubbling ...

    The country is in the creative crown! ..

    Chorus:

    Mr. Police! .. State Gazette! ..

    You flew the flag of the Fatherland in battles! ..

    It is edged by the law! .. state emblem chevron! ..

    You are the keeper of a great day! ..

    Orders mean the degree of distinction ...

    Sign-blood prologue in the path ...

    And policemen will seem to everyone ...

    The surest outcome in trouble ...

    Chorus:

    Mr. Police! .. State Gazette! ..

    You flew the flag of the Fatherland in battles! ..

    It is edged by the law! .. state emblem chevron! ..

    You are the keeper of a great day! ..

    HAPPY !!!

    © MUZGAZETANOVOSIBIRSK
    © derjavaklub
    © informspecnaz
    © MUZJURNALSOVREMENNIK
  40. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 10 November 2015 11: 47 New
    +5
    Quote: 35lisment35
    November 10 - Day of the employee of the internal affairs bodies of the Russian Federation

    This is the name belay what do reformers with creative laughing
    On October 28 (November 10), 1917, a resolution was adopted by the NKVD of the RSFSR "ON THE WORKING POLICE"
    And this very holiday was celebrated and is celebrated since its birth.
    But for some reason, the reformers did not reschedule the police day. on November 4, they would either have found the day of creation of the oprichnina in the depths of centuries, well, or they would have come up with a day of city or tsarist guards, and the very name "day of renaming as a policeman" would have amazed the rumor of liberal-shit democrats. Apparently, it would be difficult to force employees to celebrate new holidays on days far-fetched, the creators in their knees are rather weak.
    In general, the Day of People’s Militia, Guys! drinks
  41. user3970
    user3970 10 November 2015 15: 02 New
    +2
    Ndya. The police really do not belong to the military. And to the people somehow ... Own departmental clinic, its own colonies, uniform sewn by the Chinese and in China (there was a scandal with colonels - supplymen from the Internal Affairs Directorate). And so, you will not praise yourself, who will praise you? Do you know what makes you think? Not all passionaries (very active and cunning guys) perished in the dashing 90s? Settled down On the money "earned" with a brush and a gun, they made a "successful" business. In the suburbs we see. Entered into power ... Children raised. Where did the children go to study? Moscow State University, LSU, Higher School of Investigators, Higher School of Police and the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Well, these are not the children of Stalin: Jacob is an artillery school, Vasily is a flight school. And not Beria’s son - a rocket launcher. And these "thieves" kids got law degrees and where are they now? You don’t remember how much you had to pay to pass the recertification? And to get a position? Do we remember the 30-year-old General Snezhkov? But the werewolves of the colonels from the MUR could not end, and the prosecutors near Moscow? Oranges will not be born from aspen. Can Saakshvilli of Odessa invite to the post of minister? It’s sad somehow.
    1. alexej123
      alexej123 10 November 2015 15: 53 New
      +7
      Well, yes, both the sergeant from Volgograd who rushed to the terrorist was a “werewolf,” and the major who detained the Belgorod gunner, and the Dagestan and Chechen policemen who die when the terrorists were detained — all under one comb. How many detentions of generals from the Moscow Region for bribes, the construction of mansions, kickbacks, etc. If you started calling, then all. And so, negativity scored in the face. There are still more honest hard workers, just they are not covered much in the media.
    2. alexej123
      alexej123 10 November 2015 16: 04 New
      +3
      And when you say, then at least bring the facts. "Own polyclinic" - and the hospital was hosted by strangers? "Own colonies" - by the way, deputies, judges, prosecutors, and military are sitting in them. The form is sewn for the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and for the Ministry of Defense almost at the same enterprises - in the colonies of the FSIN, GUGL to help. For the rest, you are talking about the tops, by the way no less corrupt in the MO, even based on the amount of funding, and they sent their children there to study.
  42. Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 10 November 2015 16: 02 New
    +1
    Statistics thing is crafty. In the USSR, children from Uncle Stepa, a policeman, took an example, and now uncle Stepa scares police with children.
  43. bbss
    bbss 10 November 2015 16: 51 New
    0
    Congratulations to all former and current employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on their professional holiday!
  44. user3970
    user3970 10 November 2015 16: 56 New
    +1
    I live in Vologda. The best polyclinic in the city is the FSB medical unit, the most tested and cheapest drugs in the medical unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But after the reforms of Serdyukov, in which cities did military hospitals survive? Vologda seems to have been liquidated. The child of a military man in most cases after the Suvorov or Nakhimov school will go further to a military university. Children of former bandits, officials and cops go mainly to study lawyers. Parents have enough money at a decent level to keep their children in the learning process. Not every military will scratch 100 thousand a month. Therefore, the children of the military and study at military schools on state support.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 10 November 2015 17: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: user3970
      The children of former bandits, officials and cops go mainly to study law

      - For what, what do they need from me ?! Where is the guard ?! - he thought behind the closed door of the Main room
      Security escaped because she did not want to give her life for him, because each security guard had a son who studied at a security school to guard someone, but carefully, without risk, for very decent money ....
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    3. Down House
      Down House 10 November 2015 17: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: user3970
      The child of the military in most cases, after the Suvorov or Nakhimov school, will go further to the military university.

      You are a genius, mister. Are you talking about intergenerational mobility, how did you hear anything as a special case of social?
      I will explain to you: only 4% of academicians in Russia were from families of peasant workers.
      The remaining 96% are children of "professors-associate professors".
      So in the army, in short - the colonel is the son of a major - the general is the son of the colonel.
      And if this is so - it’s right - we read about the same Peter Principle and we understand everything.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 10 November 2015 18: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Down House
        So in the army, in short - the colonel is the son of a major - the general is the son of the colonel.

        Can the son of a general become a marshal?
        Нет!
        Marshal has his own son.
        Principle of Peterposition put forward and substantiated in the book of the same name by Lawrence Peter. Formulation: “In a hierarchical system, each individual tends to rise to the level of his incompetence»
        Bush senior and Bush junior clearly refuted this theory.
        And examples continue to multiply and multiply.
        In some countries, caste construction.
        There are democratic countries in which everything is "democratic."
        Darwin also pushed Temko and you support and share it?
        1. Down House
          Down House 10 November 2015 19: 16 New
          0
          Quote: Papakiko
          Bush senior and Bush junior clearly refuted this theory.

          And the board of the “combine” from a peasant family in “another country” refutes yours!
          Both theory and theory, which is verified by statistics, and not by individual particular cases.
          And I told you the statistics: only 4% of academicians in Russia were from families of peasant workers.
          Quote: Papakiko
          In some countries, caste construction.
          There are democratic countries in which everything is "democratic."

          Therefore, we read about the under / over production of the elite and its rotation, the bias to extremes is bad - mobility should be but should be limited in logically justified “percentages”.
          The best basic limitation of mobility is precisely “intergenerational mobility” in the form of a “sieve” as a different culture — separate education.
          Quote: Papakiko
          Darwin also pushed Temko and you support and share it?

          What exactly are you talking about now?
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 10 November 2015 19: 32 New
            -1
            Quote: Down House
            Both theory and theory, which is verified by statistics

            Don't kick my heels laughing
            The theory of statistics, this is not physics and chemistry, but the human community, a strong hand and a smart head (who cares, who cares).
            Quote: Down House
            rather than individual special cases

            Yes, I’m tired of listing who is whom and by whom in the highest financial, political and other monetary circles.
            Everything is divided and sawn between families and others are allowed into the garden, only by polyphonic decision.
            Quote: Down House
            The best basic limitation of mobility is precisely “intergenerational mobility” in the form of a “sieve” as a different culture — separate education.

            Thieves at Harvards and Oxwords and the rest is nonsense in the ass.
            Well, of course, the media in the hands of thieves and the proper hilling of the brains of Chushkans.
            In our country, for 20 years, the education according to the scheme you set out is being destroyed and the goal is specifically understood. crying
            Quote: Down House
            What exactly are you talking about now?

            That theories come up with specific people for specific tasks.
            1. Down House
              Down House 10 November 2015 23: 44 New
              0
              Quote: Papakiko
              Theory of statistics, this is not physics and chemistry, but the human community

              That's it, that "not physics and not chemistry" - that's why we are talking about statistics.
              Quote: Papakiko
              Everything is divided and sawn between families and others are allowed into the garden, only by polyphonic decision.

              And this is partly good, an example in the form of a “combiner” at the helm we have already discussed above.
              Quote: Papakiko
              Thieves at Harvards and Oxwords and the rest is nonsense in the ass.

              Yes, and the rest in universities is simpler.
              Let me give you an example - a gypsy woman from a local "gypsy community" arranged for a friend to go to school - they taught third-graders to smoke and dance in the classroom in a couple of weeks - this is absolutely normal behavior for them - they smoke and hooligan since childhood.
              As a result, the parents rebelled and transferred the gypsies.
              And it may seem insulting to you, but for Harvard students we are the same gypsies without culture, manners and motivation fellow
              Quote: Papakiko
              That theories come up with specific people for specific tasks.

              Theories are primarily “invented” by scientists for the purpose of scientific understanding of the world, and ordinary people come up with “conspiracy theories” if the objective picture of the world does not fit into their subjective view of it.
  45. Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 10 November 2015 17: 17 New
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    Having increased the salary of the military and the police, a line was drawn between the security forces and the rest of the population. Now a police officer on a foreign car is on the road. Appetite comes with eating. Now familiar friends complain that they are short of money. Got loans, almost all on foreign cars when you have to work, you need to earn money. And the people will wait.
  46. Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 10 November 2015 17: 18 New
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    Having increased the salary of the military and the police, a line was drawn between the security forces and the rest of the population. Now a police officer on a foreign car is on the road. Appetite comes with eating. Now familiar friends complain that they are short of money. Got loans, almost all on foreign cars when you have to work, you need to earn money. And the people will wait.
  47. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 10 November 2015 17: 36 New
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    All ATS employees - happy holiday! Honored and Conquered!

    This is purely for police officers. Respect to you, honor and deep bow! Eternal glory to the dead!

    Well, briefly. About the results of the operation "Police-Police" - for the lord of time zones - complete garbage turned out. The benefit of frigging is zero, and even worse, i.e. - exactly the same as from the turn of time back. We thought that the reform was for the good, and foolishly supported, as usual. Only then they dopped that the whole reform was purely and exclusively only in renaming.
    Aby was, albeit to the detriment, but not the same as before! And the renaming didn’t work out very smoothly (there is an opinion that people don’t like servants when gentlemen go everywhere). It would be better both without gentlemen and without policemen.
    In a word, this is not reform, but - ... the very thing that everyone knows is condemned in the press, but approved by moderators in the soul!
  48. zinander
    zinander 10 November 2015 17: 48 New
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    Everything was both good and bad. People are different, like everywhere else. But I don’t remember evil. On the Feast of all who served and serve! Health and prosperity!
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