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Israeli Air Force responded by air strikes on the next rocket launch from the Gaza Strip

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Aviation Israel strikes in the Gaza Strip in response to another rocket attack by Palestinian extremists, reports RIA News message of the press service of the military department of the country.




“The aim of the bombing was the position of the ruling Islamist movement Hamas in the southern part of the Gaza Strip,” the military said.

Released by militants on the eve of the rocket "fell in an open area in the south of Israel."

Information about victims as a result of mutual blows was not received.

The press service stressed that "since the beginning of 2015, the 19 missiles launched by Gaza terrorists have already exploded on Israeli territory."

Regardless of the religious convictions of the “rocket men” themselves and their belonging to any groupings and factions, Israel places responsibility for the breakdown of the truce on Hamas, ruling in the Gaza Strip, and it is up to it to respect the agreements reached.
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  1. Uncle
    Uncle 9 November 2015 17: 42 New
    +4
    Infinite circle: these are the rocket, those are the air strike. Gordian knot, who will cut it?
    1. st25310
      st25310 9 November 2015 17: 46 New
      13
      Comrades of Israel: what are the real prerequisites for moving towards peace in the region ???
      1. Wiski
        Wiski 9 November 2015 20: 06 New
        13
        Quote: st25310
        Comrades of Israel: what are the real prerequisites for moving towards peace in the region ???


        In the region? This is your American-Russian problem already wassat
        The Arab-Israeli conflict has long been no longer a regional issue, despite many trying to create that feeling. The problem between the Palestinians and Israel is now the smallest. ISIS, Iraq, Syria, terror in Egypt, etc. - these are problems.

        And peace between Arabs and Jews will never come because the Arabs do not and did not have the goal of peace.

        There was a prime minister in Israel, who believed in 2006 or 2007 that the Golan should be returned to Syria. What would Israel have next to itself in the situation in Syria? God forbid now to twitch at all on the return of territories.
        Israel had already left Gaza; there were elections, but after them Hamas seized power by force, refused all agreements and began firing rockets at Israel. Who guarantees Israel that this will not happen? Global community? Not. We saw what happened after the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon - Hezbollah, according to the UN decision, should have been disbanded, but did not. After which there was a second Lebanese war and again the UN Security Council decided to disarm Hezbollah and even put UNIFIL forces near the border. Did it help? No - Hezbollah remained, armed to the teeth.

        Israel offered peace on almost all conditions of the Arabs - this was shared by our two prime ministers, Barak-Arafat and Olmert Abu Mazen. Both Arafat and Olmert refused. Why, because they got everything? But because they do not need peace. If there is peace, they will have to survive on their own, they will have to accept a couple of millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps; they don’t need it.

        Now, in general, a wild situation. According to his Palestinian law, Abu Mazen would have been obliged to hold elections 7-8 years ago. In fact, it is no longer legitimate since it was not chosen. Abu Mazen does not have power in the Gaza Strip - that is, half the territory of a future Palestinian state. The agreement with him does not solve the problem with 1,8 million Palestinians and Hamas in Gaza. So who is Abu Mazen really representing now? Exactly.
        1. Michael_59
          Michael_59 9 November 2015 20: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: Wiski
          the Arab Israeli conflict has long been no longer a regional problem


          Nifigase statement of the question. For the sake of this, they say, and passenger liners are falling?
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 02 New
            -1
            Quote: Michael_59
            Nifigase statement of the question. For the sake of this, they say, and passenger liners are falling?



            Not understood. Explain.
            1. Michael_59
              Michael_59 9 November 2015 21: 39 New
              +1
              One of the parties to the conflict understands that in the medium term it alone will not cope (well, or it will be too expensive) on the other and, in order to solve this problem, this creates the conditions for involving a third party.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 9 November 2015 23: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Michael_59
            Nifigase statement of the question. For the sake of this, they say, and passenger liners are falling?

            Tourists in the Sinai have been killing for a good two decades, without any involvement from Israel. And even more so. You are not aware of this? I advise you to do history
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 9 November 2015 22: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: Wiski
          And peace between Arabs and Jews will never come because the Arabs do not and did not have the goal of peace.

          Imagine that the Nazis in the USSR chopped off the ground to the Urals. The Americans organized the UN. Everyone was already tired of fighting and the Germans would have proposed - but let's divide the land in fact. And Germany would receive borders recognized by all states to the Urals.
          How do you think would react in subsequent years of the USSR? In my opinion, it’s not hard to guess - he would start a “terrorist” war against the unhappy, tired of the constant wars of Germany. And everyone would say that these "dirty Russians", pigs, shell us, kill us and do not want to live in peace with us.
          What they sow, you reap. It was not necessary to chop off someone else's land, even if there was a UN resolution.
          Well, for a long time, that Russia should be expelled from the UN, adopt a resolution without Russia and declare Russia the territory of the USA, England, Germany, France, Japan, China and Canada.
          Do you think Russia should obey?
          Remember, for all peoples, the conqueror always remains the conqueror.
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 9 November 2015 22: 24 New
            +5
            You have the most important and biggest mistake in that you are comparing the seizure of already existing countries with each other.
            This is a fatal mistake that turns your reasoning into completely wrong.

            This suggests that you do not know the essence, namely, that until the age of 47, this land did not belong to either Arabs or Jews. The Arabs did not have sovereignty there.
            The UN has decided to divide the land, which did not have sovereignty, and therefore your comparisons with existing countries and the seizure of their territories is a complete mistake.

            Moreover, today the State of Palestine de jure partially recognized state , unlike Israel.

            There was a resolution on the division of the territory. The resolution was advisory in nature and would have been valid if both sides had adopted it. The Jews accepted, the Arabs went to war. And they tried many more times to exterminate the Jews even when the Jews had neither Judea, Samaria, nor the Gaza Strip; from 48 to 67 years these territories were owned by Arab countries.

            Therefore, just making claims to Israel for not allowing itself to be killed and occupying territories that did not have sovereignty is clearly wrong.
            1. Throw
              Throw 10 November 2015 02: 05 New
              -1

              Wiski IL
              Yesterday, 20: 06 ↑
              Quote: st25310
              Comrades of Israel: what are the real prerequisites for moving towards peace in the region ???

              In the region? This is your American-Russian problem already wassat

              Fucking Jews outweigh responsibility and hide behind coined terms to their interpretations ..

              Sovereignty?
              And why did the Indians not have it?
              But did Yugoslavia not have it?

              On whose land are you sitting?
              Where are the refugees from?

              Or does Russia support Hamas with weapons and money and instructors ?!

              Or maybe you need to support? Purely for the triumph of democracy in the "partially recognized" ..

              Or put on the "standards" of the UN and further on the Hamburg account ..

              am
        3. Wiski
          Wiski 10 November 2015 10: 20 New
          +1
          Both Arafat and Olmert refused


          there is a mistake. Arafat and Abu Mazen were meant
    2. Coconut Tima
      Coconut Tima 9 November 2015 17: 48 New
      57
      It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!
      1. slaw14
        slaw14 9 November 2015 17: 53 New
        +4
        Yes, I’ll die laughing now. You’re not joking anymore.
      2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 9 November 2015 18: 29 New
        +7
        Quote: coconut tim
        It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!


        So they tried to crush RUSSIA under themselves since 1917 .. In some ways, even REDUCED. They brought the "Lenin Guard" in a sealed car (99% of the God's chosen ones) - the government is in exile! They slipped Jewish wives to the key leaders of the Bolshevik party! Stalin "figured out" this "guard" in the 30s! Instead of the Crimea and the Kuban, he proposed to allocate a NEW LAND to them in 1945! Why did this brotherhood persecute after his death!
        1. Wiski
          Wiski 9 November 2015 20: 38 New
          +6
          What kind of Russians, judging by your logic, are weak and weak people, if they can be crushed by a couple of percent of Jews laughing .
          Look for a problem among Russians - start by understanding that it is not worth throwing your weaknesses and weaknesses on others with a huge number of Russians. Your complaints sound mildly funny laughing
          You also write that you needed the Georgian Stalin, since you were not able to clean up yourself laughing
          1. atalef
            atalef 9 November 2015 20: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: Wiski
            What kind of Russians, judging by your logic, are weak and weak people, if they can be crushed by a couple of percent of Jews

            The fact, judging by the comments, is recognized by 90% of those who comment on this article on VO.
            Apparently it is and Russia has been ruled by Jews for many years, okay.
            Apparently, even though we are few, we are still so strong that we crushed Russia for ourselves (and some claim that the whole world)
            GUT, as the Cossacks say - Lubo. hi
            1. Hello
              Hello 9 November 2015 20: 55 New
              -5
              Quote: atalef
              Apparently it is and Russia has been ruled by Jews for many years, okay.

              Guys, give me something to rule tongue
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 9 November 2015 21: 02 New
                +1
                Quote: Hello
                Guys, give me something to rule

                To begin with, you will have to take Russian citizenship and serve in the Russian army, then you will be unlearned at the RANEPA and the thing is in the hat. All in your hands. smile
                1. Hello
                  Hello 9 November 2015 21: 06 New
                  +3
                  Quote: GRAY
                  To begin with, you will have to take Russian citizenship and serve in the Russian army, then you will be unlearned at the RANEPA and the thing is in the hat. All in your hands.

                  I have such citizenship, but the problem with the army after the Israeli immediately in the reserve or in the reserve I do not know exactly what is called. In general, not a draft wink
                  And what is RANEPA? belay
                  1. GRAY
                    GRAY 9 November 2015 21: 21 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Hello
                    RASHIGS

                    Russian Academy of National Economy and Public Administration.
                    . Generally not recruiting

                    Then without mase already.
                    1. Hello
                      Hello 9 November 2015 21: 37 New
                      0
                      Quote: GRAY
                      Then without mase already.

                      Sorry, I already set up plans winked
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            3. 34 region
              34 region 9 November 2015 21: 47 New
              +2
              We will not go far. Take Ukraine. Who is in power? Or is it a purely information war against the Jews?
        2. 34 region
          34 region 9 November 2015 21: 43 New
          -1
          Not only the Bolsheviks were traveling in a sealed train car. There were representatives of other parties. You can type in the search: Myths of the USSR. I think it will be very interesting.
        3. kepmor
          kepmor 9 November 2015 23: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Quote: coconut tim
          It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!


          So they tried to crush RUSSIA under themselves since 1917 .. In some ways, even REDUCED. They brought the "Lenin Guard" in a sealed car (99% of the God's chosen ones) - the government is in exile! They slipped Jewish wives to the key leaders of the Bolshevik party! Stalin "figured out" this "guard" in the 30s! Instead of the Crimea and the Kuban, he proposed to allocate a NEW LAND to them in 1945! Why did this brotherhood persecute after his death!

          Judging by the number of "God-chosen" in the country's leadership, among the friends and advisers of the Tsar (Levitin, which is a consonant surname), oligarchs, party people and other "near-tron racket", they brought this plan to life.
      3. bhdir1946
        bhdir1946 9 November 2015 18: 42 New
        -4
        You lagged behind life: in the Gaza Strip you found huge oil reserves. All the fuss over joining yourself. 40 years is only the "Exodus", they were also taken to the Babylonian captivity and 70 years were there.
        1. Coconut Tima
          Coconut Tima 9 November 2015 18: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: bhdir1946
          You are behind the times: huge reserves of oil found in the Gaza Strip

          This Gaza Strip belongs to Palestine, not Israel! So do not run through life in front of a horse!
        2. 34 region
          34 region 9 November 2015 22: 00 New
          0
          Why fight only over oil? In the desert, water is worth its weight in gold. You can fight for the monopoly of water resources.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 9 November 2015 23: 53 New
          0
          Quote: bhdir1946
          You lagged behind life: in the Gaza Strip you found huge oil reserves. All the fuss over joining yourself. 40 years is only the "Exodus", they were also taken to the Babylonian captivity and 70 years were there.

          And who found tell? 8)
      4. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 9 November 2015 19: 40 New
        +2
        Coconut Tima
        It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!



        place as place ... and they are enemies, everywhere.

        By the way, the gas was scraped a little all the same. \
      5. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 9 November 2015 19: 51 New
        -2
        So, it’s like Israeli geneticists claim Palestinian genetic Jews, and not alien professors of Judaism. By the way, the promised land is promised to descendants by seed, and the globalized will be replaced by Scientologists
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 9 November 2015 23: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: sovetskyturist
          So, it’s like Israeli geneticists claim Palestinian genetic Jews, and not alien professors of Judaism. By the way, the promised land is promised to descendants by seed, and the globalized will be replaced by Scientologists

          And what kind of Israeli genetics?
      6. shvn
        shvn 9 November 2015 19: 59 New
        0
        Come on! Recently, around the world, Jews said they found oil nemeryano in the Golan)) Fake maybe? )))
      7. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 9 November 2015 21: 41 New
        0
        Quote: coconut tim
        It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!

        There are really a lot of enemies there, but you are wrong about oil and gas. We found there not weak reserves of both of them, but not on the mainland, but on the sea shelf. It seems like the information slipped that the Russian Federation will participate in the development.
      8. Taagad
        Taagad 9 November 2015 22: 36 New
        +9
        Firstly, gas has already been found. Secondly, I am even pleased that we do not have minerals. The presence of spherical income from minerals decomposes peoples. And so we have to develop high-tech production and science in order to build a country, and not be a raw materials appendage
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    3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 9 November 2015 18: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: Uncle
      Infinite circle: these are the rocket, those are the air strike. Gordian knot, who will cut it?


      Nobody will ever chop! Lawrence of Arabia, an Englishman who practically led the Arabs' revolt against the Ottoman Empire (1916-1918), said: "There WILL NEVER BE A WORLD BETWEEN ARABS AND JEWS!"
      By the way, the same can be said of the BANDER part of UKROPIA and the DONBASS!
    4. War and Peace
      War and Peace 9 November 2015 18: 18 New
      +2
      soon there will be no place in this sector to place even one rocket — everything was captured by the Jews, the technology of such attacks is simple — the enemy terrorists came up with and now you can bomb them as many as you like ...
      1. Wiski
        Wiski 9 November 2015 20: 29 New
        +3
        Fans of these cards forget a simple thing - in Israel itself live 20% of Arabs - 1,8 million and represent as if only Jews live in Israel.

        Secondly, it is somehow forgotten by some that the Arabs wanted to exterminate the Jews many times and that the borders of the Jewish state somehow gave and give at least a small rear - from Judea and Samaria - (West Bank) - half of Israel is easily shot through, from the Golan Heights .

        Thirdly, the Arabs themselves did not accept the resolution on division and tried to destroy the Jews many times and therefore complain that the attempt to destroy the Jews failed and asking the Jews to leave the territories to try again is somehow strange. wassat
        Israel, when it left Gaza, power was seized and several operations had already been carried out, and the south of Israel was constantly fired upon. Does Israel need this in Judea and Samaria? No.

        Therefore, showing this card does not make sense. As correctly and correctly said the first Prime Minister of Israel - Ben Gurion -

        War is war.
        It was not we who started it, but they. Should we allow the enemy to return back so that he can start a war against us again? They lost and fled, and I will be against their return after the war.



        Arabs have enough land to build a state there and live happily there, but they don’t need it sad
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 9 November 2015 21: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Wiski
          Fans of these cards forget a simple thing - in Israel itself live 20% of Arabs - 1,8 million and represent as if only Jews live in Israel.
          :

          They do not forget that at the end of the 19th century 90% of the territory there was not populated and belonged not to the mythical Palestinians, who were so named in 1964, but to the Turkish Empire.
        2. War and Peace
          War and Peace 9 November 2015 21: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Wiski
          Secondly, some people somehow forget that the Arabs wanted to destroy the Jews many times


          some Jews have already forgotten that the world community recognized Israel as the aggressor state the first to unleash a war for territorial claims

          UN resolution recognizing Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination


          http://via-midgard.info/news/rezolyuciya-oon-o-priznanii-sionizma-formoj.htm
          1. Hello
            Hello 9 November 2015 21: 44 New
            0
            Quote: war and peace
            some Jews have already forgotten that the international community recognized Israel as the aggressor state the first to unleash a war for territorial

            Here are people with perseverance worthy of a better application, post the same thing. How many times to say that this resolution was canceled 91 times this time. The USSR fought against the United States and its allies and the resolution is a solid policy no more than two. The USSR was seduced by the sweet voices of its Arab friends who many Nazi friends warmed up after the war, and these friends wrote them theories that were rightly true according to Mein Kampf, and the USSR quoted them later on without inspection. Such is the paradox, the Nazi victors quoted the uninformed Nazis.
            In general, listen to Vysotsky: take the order from Nasser wink
          2. Wiski
            Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 44 New
            -1
            Quote: war and peace
            some Jews have already forgotten that the world community recognized Israel as the aggressor state the first to unleash a war for territorial claims


            When is that?



            Quote: war and peace
            UN resolution recognizing Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination


            And what to expect from the anti-Semitic policies of the USSR, its satellites and Muslims with Africans. Here, either anti-Semites voted for this resolution, or outcast countries, or Muslims. It is rarely possible to see there a country spotless in anti-Semitism that voted for. This is ordinary anti-Semitism and nothing more.

            Just look at those who voted for and those who are against and abstained -


            According
            Albania, Algeria, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bahrain, Belarusian SSR, Bulgaria, Brazil, Burundi, Hungary, Guyana, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, German Democratic Republic, Grenada, Dahomey, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran , Cape Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Qatar, Cyprus, People's Republic of China, Congo, Kuwait, Cuba, Laos, Lebanon, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Mauritania, Madagascar, Malaysia, Mali, Maldives, Malta, Morocco, Mexico, Mozambique, Mongolia , Niger, Nigeria, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Northern Yemen, Senegal, Syrian Arab Republic, Somalia, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Sudan, Tanzania, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukrainian SSR, Chad, Czechoslovakia, Sri Lanka, Equatorial Guinea, South Yemen.

            Против
            Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Ivory Coast, United Kingdom, Haiti, Honduras, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Israel, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Canada, Costa Rica, Liberia, Luxembourg, Malawi, Netherlands, Nicaragua, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, El Salvador, United States of America, Uruguay, Federal Republic of Germany, Fiji, Finland, France, Central African Republic, Switzerland, Sweden.

            Abstained
            Argentina, Burma, Bolivia, Botswana, Bhutan, Venezuela, Upper Volta, Gabon, Ghana, Guatemala, Greece, Zaire, Zambia, Kenya, Colombia, Lesotho, Mauritania, Nepal, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Singapore, Sierra Leone , Thailand, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Philippines, Chile, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Jamaica, Japan.



            Of course, then the resolution was canceled and PAY ATTENTION The USSR voted FOR THE CANCELATION OF THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION - The CCCR, apparently, realized that they had clearly gone over with anti-Semitism. But this you forget to write and indicate hi
      2. atalef
        atalef 10 November 2015 07: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: war and peace
        soon there will be no place in this sector to place even one rocket — everything was captured by the Jews, the technology of such attacks is simple — the enemy terrorists came up with and now you can bomb them as many as you like ...

        But has the size of the sector changed since it was Egyptian?
    5. Oman 47
      Oman 47 9 November 2015 23: 08 New
      +3
      AND EXTREMELY RIGHT, the Jews act in response to the "bold" actions of the surrounding reckless Arabs, stupidly making money from such provocations. hi
      And besides - “boldly” hiding behind the snotty Arabian youngsters and their women in the veils ...
      Donkeys are shameful, NOT MEN.

      PS Verbovetsky Igor, if you are reading now - SHOLOM! Electric mail is the same; hello to the wives of the children! good
      1. Freelancer7
        Freelancer7 10 November 2015 03: 02 New
        0
        It seems to me that these single launches are beneficial for Israel in a quote from open terrain in southern Israel.

        1. There are no victims, which affects the direct logic of the shelling quite strongly.
        2. The ideological background of utopia is a constant war. Under this slogan, you can demand anything from the citizens of the country.
        3. The United States ask for money, weapons, technology for protection.
        4. Training for military pilots.
        5. The media report another victory.

        Total score:
        Palestine -1 (complete failure, no casualties)
        Israel +5 (points above)

        And so regularly.
        Is fecit eui prodest!
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 9 November 2015 17: 42 New
    18
    But we don’t have aviation in Donetsk to "respond to the next launch of an APU missile in Donetsk." request
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 9 November 2015 17: 46 New
      -1
      And why do you need us?
    2. UralMan
      UralMan 9 November 2015 17: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      But we don’t have aviation in Donetsk to "respond to the next launch of an APU missile in Donetsk."

      And you ask ours in Syria, let them be wrapped up in you ...
      And I think --- so wrapped up ... soon.
      And so wrapped up ... Parache will not seem enough
    3. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 9 November 2015 19: 55 New
      0
      We have it, it’s the same as you have :) When you really need it, you will have airplanes, I VERY hope so.
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    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 9 November 2015 17: 52 New
      31
      Peace in the region is now independent of Israel.
      Once upon a time, 40-50 years ago, Israel was a red rag
      for the Arabs and the factor of their cohesion.
      For the last 30 years, Arabs have been disassembling each other. And all
      cooler and cooler. Even if suddenly Israel instantly
      will move to the moon (to the joy of all our ill-wishers laughing ) -
      wars in the Middle East will blaze, as they will.
      1. arane
        arane 9 November 2015 17: 57 New
        16
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Peace in the region is now independent of Israel.
        Once upon a time, 40-50 years ago, Israel was a red rag
        for the Arabs and the factor of their cohesion.
        For the last 30 years, Arabs have been disassembling each other. And all
        cooler and cooler. Even if suddenly Israel instantly
        will move to the moon (to the joy of all our ill-wishers laughing ) -
        wars in the Middle East will blaze, as they will.


        Believe me, Alexei, even in this case they won’t calm down. They say that Israel on the moon encroached on their crescent ...
        And they will build a rocket to shoot at the moon
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 9 November 2015 18: 01 New
          +6
          Slyly otmazyvatsya: "We (Israel) have nothing to do with it!" Here are the pens! They themselves were bullied!
          We do not add fuel to the fire! "We have nothing to do with the Arabian springs, summers, autumn, winters!"
          Maybe you are also against the United States? Say - "they are to blame for everything! And we are unfortunate, they lie about us, slander, evil tongues, liars!"
          Even if suddenly Israel instantly moves to the moon,
          wars in the Middle East will blaze, as they will.
          Sure! We scorched along with friends of the United States, and now we won’t be able to jump back! Especially to the moon!
          1. Manul
            Manul 9 November 2015 19: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe you are also against the United States? Say - "it’s their fault!

            yes Exactly! Recently, the tone of statements has changed - we are completely independent from America, we respect them purely for free dry packs. We never touched anyone. And in principle, we really love Russians. I’m talking about those who have disappeared. Somehow, everything happens very synchronously with them.
      2. UralMan
        UralMan 9 November 2015 17: 58 New
        +3
        and that’s true ...
        and again, as always
        Jews are to blame
      3. mvg
        mvg 9 November 2015 18: 15 New
        +2
        Not not not ... You don’t leave anywhere ... (to the moon) The circus is already lacking .. Patience, soon we will come to you .. in peace ..
      4. GRAY
        GRAY 9 November 2015 19: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Peace in the region is now independent of Israel.


        Recognize Palestine as a state and declare war on it as normal, or something ...
        How much can a cat pull eggs?
        1. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich 9 November 2015 19: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Peace in the region is now independent of Israel.


          Recognize Palestine as a state and declare war on it as normal, or something ...
          How much can a cat pull eggs?

          Just do not laugh ... Palestine will be bent without Israel!
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 9 November 2015 19: 33 New
            0
            Quote: AlNikolaich
            Palestine will be bent without Israel!

            That will be the incentive for the peace process.
      5. Manul
        Manul 9 November 2015 19: 15 New
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Even if suddenly Israel instantly
        will move to the moon (to the joy of all our ill-wishers) -
        wars in the Middle East will blaze, as they will.

        I treat you Alexei with deep respect, but if with garlic, Israel will not fly to the moon. There is no one to take interest from.
        Wars in the east are unleashed from the outside. And if you imagine that the United States, and not the USSR, fell apart, then I have a deep conviction that nothing would burn in the east and in the world.
      6. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 9 November 2015 19: 24 New
        +1
        Alexey (voyaka uh), in the discussion of this article, the comment passed

        Quote: venaya
        It depends on what kind of Jews, Ashkenazi (Germany in Hebrew), so those who come from the lower Volga, have nothing to do with Arabs, by the way in Israel they are under 90%. As for the "Sephardic" (Spain in Hebrew), then yes, they are direct relatives of the Arabs. True, I wrote about other peoples who did not come from the Arabian desert. Previously, northern white people lived there, as described in the literature.


        Do not consider it work, Dear colleague, comment for me stupid, what it is about.

        hi
        1. venaya
          venaya 10 November 2015 05: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          ... comment for me ... what this is about.

          The question was whether the inhabitants of Israel are direct relatives of the Arabs living nearby, or not. According to the Arab professor, the Jews of Israel, professing Judaism, are 90% immigrants from the Khazar Kaganate, from the lower Volga, that is, they are not directly related to the Arabs, since they belong more to the group of Turkic peoples. Commentator from Israel voyaka uh "He didn’t agree with me, but he didn’t give not only any numbers or other information, but also used unacceptable antics in the style of"SOMETHING"That's all, there are still questions, I will answer. I myself am not leaving the answers or the responsibility.
          1. atalef
            atalef 10 November 2015 07: 10 New
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            Quote: venaya
            t. According to the Arab professor, the Jews of Israel, professing Judaism, are 90% come from the Khazar Kaganate

            ie Jesus is the same Khazarin? belay

            Quote: venaya
            Commentator from Israel voyaka uh disagreed with me

            With you or with
            Quote: venaya
            According to an Arab professor

            As I understand it, you did not bring your personal evidence
            Quote: venaya
            "That's all, there are still questions, I will answer

            Answer
            why- Jesus from the tribe of David, lived in Judea and his name was Ishua bin Joseph, and not Mahmut ibn Hattab from Sakhnin?
            1. venaya
              venaya 10 November 2015 09: 44 New
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              Quote: atalef
              ie Jesus is the same Khazarin?
              As I understand it, you did not bring your personal evidence ... Answer why, Jesus from the tribe of David lived in Judea and his name was Ishua bin Joseph, and not Mahmut ibn Hattab from Sakhnin?

              "Jesus is the same Khazarin? "- The question is complex, needs to be considered, besides it is not clear what kind of Jesus we are talking about, about Jesus Christ, or about Joshua? It is best to have material for genetic analysis, but given the age of the subjects, we can only talk about the analysis of mummy particles. Do you have at least pieces of mummies available from these entities? Until you provide material for research, talking about ethnic origin is unacceptable. Names are a function of religious addiction, it is impossible to determine from them. Since the state of Israel was created in 1948, at the beginning from the “repatriates” from Poland, where Ashkenazi lived mainly Why Poland? So the FPS party was founded in Geneva / Basel at the first World Zionist Congress, and Pan Pilsutsky was the undisputed leader until his death, and it was in Poland that the Judeophobic moods were most developed. , stronger than in Germany, there was more time since 1917. So the settlement of Palestine did not primarily go to the Sephardim but to the Ashkenazi, hence the high A small percentage of them are now in Israel. By the way, please give the ratio of the Jews living in Israel by origin according to your version, with the numbers you know. The conversation should be specific, based on scientific research and not on the basis of religious dogmas. By the way, I have not heard from you any version of the origin of the Levites, why? The Bushmen tribe, one of the most ancient and cultural tribes of Africa, has its own language of the oldest sociable language group and has its roots in central and southern Africa. Where did you get such disrespect for such ancient peoples? As for Karl Marx, his name is Mordecai Levy ... ... I can’t say anything further, it’s very difficult for me. So he is the purest Levite with the purest African roots. Do you even have any version of the origin of the Levites, otherwise I'm going to r ... but, it’s not clear why, it seems you are simply mocking me. Give us your data, at least some, otherwise the conversation is meaningless.
              1. atalef
                atalef 10 November 2015 13: 42 New
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                Quote: venaya
                Give us your data, at least some, otherwise the conversation is meaningless.

                with such ignorance as you, but it’s not worth talking.
                Google to help you
                tags
                Levites, Coens, family of David. Jesus

                By the way - all over your opus. Do you have a piece of your great-grandfather’s mummy? What not? Well then, prove that you are not gypsies.
      7. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 9 November 2015 20: 05 New
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        go north and east to win, but as long as Israel and the SA in alliance against the Shiites, it will not work
      8. Your friend
        Your friend 9 November 2015 20: 27 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        Peace in the region is now independent of Israel.
        Once upon a time, 40-50 years ago, Israel was a red rag
        for the Arabs and the factor of their cohesion.
        For the last 30 years, Arabs have been disassembling each other. And all
        cooler and cooler. Even if suddenly Israel instantly
        will move to the moon (to the joy of all our ill-wishers laughing ) -
        wars in the Middle East will blaze, as they will.

        All right. Shiites slaughter Sunnis, Sunnis slaughter Kurds and all of them are cut by the IG. What kind of Jews are there ...
        Confess, when Ali was killed in Kufa’s mosque, did Mossad’s ears stick out there?)))
        1. Hello
          Hello 9 November 2015 20: 58 New
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          Quote: Your friend
          All right. Shiites slaughter Sunnis, Sunnis slaughter Kurds and all of them are cut by the IG. What kind of Jews are there ...
          Confess, when Ali was killed in Kufa’s mosque, did Mossad’s ears stick out there?)))

          I’ll tell you more when the army of Darius lost to Alexander, this is the first Mossad’s operation to guide a shecher in the Middle East wassat
      9. 34 region
        34 region 9 November 2015 22: 09 New
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        On the one hand, yes. Today, they seem to be fighting among themselves. And who pushed them to this? Who was biting? Who brewed this porridge? And England still had plans to create Israel in 1917. Apparently not just?
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  5. alone
    alone 9 November 2015 17: 45 New
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    Surprised by the Palestinians! Even a donkey once stepping on a puddle, the second time does not. And they continue their stupid rocket attacks, and then begin to whine about retaliatory strikes.
    1. Hello
      Hello 9 November 2015 18: 13 New
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      Quote: lonely
      Surprised by the Palestinians! Even a donkey once stepping on a puddle, the second time does not. And they continue their stupid rocket attacks, and then begin to whine about retaliatory strikes.

      Well, those who broadcast to them about jihad and ghazavat rarely come under fire because they sit in Qatar and grandmothers get it, and youths with a burning eye can wash their ears well. As they say, I’m selling disposable soldiers is not expensive. And you imagine that you need to create your own state how much to account for all the money that went to Palestine, and the money has already been invested, it’s better to launch a couple of rackets and now he’s an insidious enemy before his eyes. And who does not believe how to attach and carry a Zionist spy to a motorcycle. request
      1. alone
        alone 9 November 2015 18: 39 New
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        Quote: Hello
        Well, those who broadcast to them about jihad and ghazavat rarely come under fire because they sit in Qatar and grandmothers get it, and youths with a burning eye can wash their ears well. As they say, I’m selling disposable soldiers is not expensive. And you imagine that you need to create your own state how much to account for all the money that went to Palestine, and the money has already been invested, it’s better to launch a couple of rackets and now he’s an insidious enemy before his eyes. And who does not believe how to attach and carry a Zionist spy to a motorcycle.



        Salam Aleikuma Ilya! As the saying goes, the world is full of naive fools who, in order for the pseudo-leaders to stuff their pockets at the cost of their own blood, are ready to tear their fifth point of plumage. As a Muslim, I have always been critical of the actions of the Palestinians. In this way, they’re not building a state. It’s impossible to change anything. it’s necessary to put up with the fact that you have to live near Israel. Otherwise, nothing will work.
        1. Hello
          Hello 9 November 2015 18: 53 New
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          Quote: lonely
          Salam Aleikuma Ilya!

          My regards hi
          Quote: lonely
          As the saying goes, the world is full of naive fools who, in order for the pseudo-leaders to stuff their pockets at the cost of their own blood, are ready to tear their fifth point of plumage

          To my deep regret, this is happening all over the place in the Muslim world, the reason as it seems to me is precisely in the incitement of hatred by some leaders. Sunites to Shiites, Sunites to friends, generally to infidels. Although the other fellow believer is not faithful, kill me request
          As in the name of Allah it is possible to kill one who goes to God the other way, God is one.
          Quote: lonely
          .I, as a Muslim, have always been critical of the actions of the Palestinians. In this way, they are not building a state. It is already impossible to change anything. They have to put up with the fact that they will have to live next to Israel. Otherwise, nothing will work.

          As Golda Meir said: Peace will come when Arabs love their children more than they hate Israel!
          1. 34 region
            34 region 9 November 2015 22: 21 New
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            And such an uncomfortable question. Everyone knows about the war of Jews and Arabs. And what do Jews do for Arabs other than military action? Is something peaceful coming from the Jews? Or just retaliatory attacks? What good did the Jews do (do) for the Arabs?
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 9 November 2015 22: 33 New
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              Jews do much more to Arabs than Arabs do to Jews.
              Just look at the Israeli Arab projects in Jordan, for example, or with Egypt.
              We supply free electricity to Gaza and Judea and Samaria - they already have billions of dollars in debt to Israel, we pass humanitarian aid, we supply everything we need, the Palestinians are treated in Israel and decently. There is an economy, we buy from them and they are with us, tens of thousands of Palestinians work in Israel and much, much more. Of course, if they kill Jews, and they need to give in to the ass, we do it.
            2. atalef
              atalef 10 November 2015 07: 20 New
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              Quote: 34 region
              And such an uncomfortable question. Everyone knows about the war of Jews and Arabs. And what do Jews do for Arabs other than military action? Is something peaceful coming from the Jews? Or just retaliatory attacks? What good did the Jews do (do) for the Arabs?

              They work for us, are treated, we supply them with water. electricity and even collect import duties for them (transferring directly to the accounts of the Autonomy) - at the same time, only the debt of the Electric Company is currently 450 million dollars.
              Yes, by the way, until 2007 in the Palestinian Authority they didn’t pay for electricity at all (people), all the bills were paid by Autonomy (you could pay, of course, you could put it in quotation marks) maybe you didn’t pay at all, and when they pressed their tail once or twice a year, Europe paid it , UN and several times grandmother gave Russia. After the Palestinian electric company began installing electric meters in their homes, there were riots and some even shot someone. Nevertheless, collecting money for electricity from their citizens, the Palestinian Authority, for the energy supplied (to Israel) ) all the same does not pay. Where does the money go? Well, probably where the 400 million went. dollars for a desalination plant (for palaces) - they received money, there is no plant, and why there is no water in the tap - the answer is clear.
              The Israeli electricity company again threatens the Palestinian Authority to turn off the electricity if the Arab side does not pay a huge accumulated debt.
              This was announced at the end of last week in an interview with Arut Sheva radio station by the chairman of the board of directors of the company Iftah Ron-Tal. According to him, "the unimaginable debt of the PA for electricity amounted to 1,7 billion shekels."
              "It's just a scandal, we don’t intend to supply the PA to the detriment of the Israeli consumer, and in the coming weeks we will reduce the flow of electricity into the autonomy until it repays the debt."
              He added that Khevrat Hashmal is a state-owned company and is obliged to coordinate its steps with the government. “There are two options: either we are cutting supplies, or the government will find some other solution,” says Ron-Tal. - If you do not pay for electricity for one month, they allow you to pull, in the second month they send a warning, and the third disconnects you from the network. This must be done with Palestinian autonomy. ”
        2. MACCABI-TLV
          MACCABI-TLV 9 November 2015 23: 37 New
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          Quote: lonely
          . He must be reconciled with the fact that he will have to live next to Israel. Otherwise, nothing will work.

          long ago resigned, but to earn money as it should ?!
      2. bhdir1946
        bhdir1946 9 November 2015 18: 49 New
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        This is anti-Maidan in Arabic. Puppeteers always pull from the far away for the necessary neti, as elsewhere
      3. 34 region
        34 region 9 November 2015 22: 17 New
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        And what is MOSSAD doing at this time? Washes grandmas? It seems to be the best special service, but here such a puncture! You started to soak in toilets before Putin!
    2. Manul
      Manul 9 November 2015 19: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: lonely
      Surprised by the Palestinians! Even a donkey once stepping on a puddle, the second time does not. And they continue their stupid rocket attacks, and then begin to whine about retaliatory strikes.

      It is very easy to create lawlessness in the destroyed territory. I can’t blame anyone using the information that is currently available. Who is stopping a couple of Crusaders from disguising as Palestinians to launch a rocket? The main thing is to kindle the flame of hatred. The main thing is to nurture the sprouts of war ..
      1. alone
        alone 9 November 2015 19: 52 New
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        Quote: Manul
        It is very easy to create lawlessness in the destroyed territory. I can’t blame anyone using the information that is currently available. Who is stopping a couple of Crusaders from disguising as Palestinians to launch a rocket? The main thing is to kindle the flame of hatred. The main thing is to nurture the sprouts of war ..


        You know, blaming the CIA for all sins is simple. You don’t need to ignite the flame of hatred. It sits tightly in the heads of Palestinians and Arabs. And yet, the hatred arsonist would not launch a rocket into the wasteland, but where there are more women and children. There’s no friend, it’s just the Palestinians themselves. Judging by the trajectory of the rocket.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 9 November 2015 22: 23 New
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          So easy to launch rockets !? I’m looking at Chubais constantly under rocket fire! laughing
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 10 November 2015 00: 28 New
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        Quote: Manul

        It is very easy to create lawlessness in the destroyed territory. I can’t blame anyone using the information that is currently available. Who is stopping a couple of Crusaders from disguising as Palestinians to launch a rocket? The main thing is to kindle the flame of hatred. The main thing is to nurture the sprouts of war ..

        The meaninglessness of this.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 10 November 2015 00: 26 New
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      Quote: lonely
      Surprised by the Palestinians! Even a donkey once stepping on a puddle, the second time does not. And they continue their stupid rocket attacks, and then begin to whine about retaliatory strikes.

      For starters, for many groups - including Hamas - this is serious money.
      Secondly, this is religious fanaticism.
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 10 November 2015 17: 28 New
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        Quote: Pimply
        Secondly, this is religious fanaticism.

        For most, this is first.
  6. Teberii
    Teberii 9 November 2015 17: 45 New
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    It will be constantly Israel does not recognize the Palestinian state.
    1. avt
      avt 9 November 2015 17: 48 New
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      Quote: Teberii
      It will be constantly Israel does not recognize the Palestinian state.

      laughing laughing Well, not kidding why? Even if they admit, the next shelling with water pipes will be under the slogan of the complete and unconditional destruction of Israel.
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 9 November 2015 17: 50 New
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    What kind of rockets are there? In the basement, on the knee, they are gathered from Chinese crackers? If Israel is a mortal enemy, then it’s just silly to engage in such garbage, receiving full-fledged airstrikes in response. And in general, for almost 70 years they have been wetting each other for nothing. Yes, the Middle East is forever, here Zhirik is 100% right.
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      1. MACCABI-TLV
        MACCABI-TLV 9 November 2015 23: 40 New
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        Quote: Hello
        Good trolling is my young green friend. Do you want to eat?

        I do not even read such posts after reading the first sentence.
    2. Wiski
      Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 00 New
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      Russians are furious at the mere mention of their nationality. The word "Russian" is the SELF-name of their people, acts on them like a red rag on a bull. Use this word a couple of times in your comments and look at the opponent’s reaction.
      2) There are a few words that make Russians writhe, like hell from incense. This is Judaism, Socialism, the USSR, Trotsky. Positive remarks about Israel, about the Jewish people, about great Jewish political figures, about the achievements of the Jews and their contribution to science, art and other spheres immediately lead to the fact that the Russian begins to rush like a monkey, and if the Russian is more cunning, he tries anoint them with dirt stealthily, in order not to run into.
      3) Russians defend any crime committed by Russians. Therefore, it’s enough to mention any Russian crime, for example, a Russian crime will be tried - the Beilis case, which was completely justified - throw to the Jews, the doctors’ case, the actions of Russians in Chechnya, Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, which led to the deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians - women and children, and immediately the identity of the interlocutor becomes clear. Russian will begin to defend criminals and homosexuals with foam at the mouth, a decent person will condemn.
      4) Russians are forbidden to praise Jews and condemn their fellow tribesmen. The Russian will never condemn the bloody executioner Stalin, but will always blame Troyky. Russian will never praise Jewish artists and sculptors, whose works have become masterpieces of world art of the 20 century: M. Chagall, E. Lisitsky, I. Rybak, I. Tchaikov, I. Pan, A. Tyshler, M. Axelrod, M. Gorshman, R. Falk, M. Epstein, G. Inger, S. Bronshtein, R. Margolin, S. Yudovin and others, but will always praise their fellow tribesmen - mish-pans.



      5) Jews are forbidden to write the word God. They write it to Gd. It’s clear why: the children of Satan cannot write and pronounce the name of God


      The Russians will never want to check how much false information they use blaming the Jews, because if they did, they would know that the Torah tells the Jews to take care of the Name of the Most High, as well as everything that carries any kduhu - "holiness."
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 9 November 2015 21: 07 New
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        Quote: Wiski
        Russians are furious at the mere mention of their nationality. The word "Russian" is the SELF-name of their people, acts on them like a red rag on a bull. Use this word a couple of times in your comments and look at the opponent’s reaction.
        2) There are a few words that make Russians writhe, like hell from incense. This is Judaism, Socialism, the USSR, Trotsky. Positive remarks about Israel, about the Jewish people, about great Jewish political figures, about the achievements of the Jews and their contribution to science, art and other spheres immediately lead to the fact that the Russian begins to rush like a monkey, and if the Russian is more cunning, he tries anoint them with dirt stealthily, in order not to run into.
        3) Russians defend any crime committed by Russians. Therefore, it’s enough to mention any Russian crime, for example, a Russian crime will be tried - the Beilis case, which was completely justified - throw to the Jews, the doctors’ case, the actions of Russians in Chechnya, Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, which led to the deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians - women and children, and immediately the identity of the interlocutor becomes clear. Russian will begin to defend criminals and homosexuals with foam at the mouth, a decent person will condemn.
        4) Russians are forbidden to praise Jews and condemn their fellow tribesmen. The Russian will never condemn the bloody executioner Stalin, but will always blame Troyky. Russian will never praise Jewish artists and sculptors, whose works have become masterpieces of world art of the 20 century: M. Chagall, E. Lisitsky, I. Rybak, I. Tchaikov, I. Pan, A. Tyshler, M. Axelrod, M. Gorshman, R. Falk, M. Epstein, G. Inger, S. Bronshtein, R. Margolin, S. Yudovin and others, but will always praise their fellow tribesmen - mish-pans.



        5) Jews are forbidden to write the word God. They write it to Gd. It’s clear why: the children of Satan cannot write and pronounce the name of God


        The Russians will never want to check how much false information they use blaming the Jews, because if they did, they would know that the Torah tells the Jews to take care of the Name of the Most High, as well as everything that carries any kduhu - "holiness."

        I would applaud you, but it’s bad luck, you, like a real Nazi, began to blame ALL Russians, all without exception.
        It looks especially funny against the background of these of your Nazi outpourings
        Quote: Wiski
        It is very clearly visible who voted - either countries that were under the USSR, African, or outcast countries, or Muslim countries that always vote against Israel in any case voted for. In general, basically one cattle and anti-Semites
        .
        1. Wiski
          Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 27 New
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          Quote: Your friend
          I would applaud you, but it’s bad luck, you, like a real Nazi, began to blame ALL Russians, all without exception.


          This generally humorous post was a parody.

          It looks especially funny against the background of these of your Nazi outpourings


          There are no Nazi statements there. The truth is not worth the trouble. The Germans admitted that Hitler did the same and you should hi

          Noah, I think it’s clear to you that I called the USSR anti-Semitic, and not bydlyatsky.
          But to argue that in the USSR there was an anti-Semitic policy is generally ridiculous -




          State policy towards Jews was twofold. On the one hand, officially anti-Semitism was seen as a negative legacy of the “great-power chauvinism” of the Russian Empire, a positive attitude towards Jews also helped preserve the image of the USSR as the main fighter against Nazism. On the other hand, the minimization of the national identity of Soviet Jews and especially those associated with the creation of the state of Israel pushed the state towards anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism as a state policy arose in the late 1930s, during the period of the establishment of Stalinist terror and reached its peak in the late 1940s - early 1950s


          After the death of Stalin, Soviet leaders began to complain that the proportion of Jews engaged in mental work was much higher than their share in the population, and USSR Minister of Culture Yekaterina Furtseva publicly stated that the number of Jewish students should be equal to the number of Jewish miners

          After the severance of diplomatic relations with Israel, a powerful campaign for the ideological struggle against Zionism gained strength in the USSR. In practice, she often turned into anti-Semitism. In particular, the admission of Jews to a number of prestigious universities was limited, as well as to work in law enforcement agencies, abroad and in institutions working with foreigners [78]. In 1972, at the suit of the International League against Racism, a trial took place in Paris, which established that the magazine "USSR", published by the Soviet embassies in Paris, London and Rome, published an article that was an exact copy of the pre-revolutionary anti-Semitic brochure of the Mikhail Union Archangel published in St. Petersburg in 1906 with the subtitle “On the impossibility of granting full rights to Jews”


          There was discrimination against Jews when admitted to the Faculty of Mechanics and Mathematics of Moscow State University. The largest mathematician, Israel Moiseevich Gelfand, for years of anti-Semitic considerations was not allowed to attend foreign conferences and was thrown over three times during elections to the USSR Academy of Sciences. According to mathematician Academician Sergei Petrovich Novikov, Mathematical Institute. Steklova “associated with demonstrative, vile anti-Semitism”

          The years of control of S. Lapin on Central Television became known as the period of anti-Semitism on Central Television of the USSR. Such popular performers as Vadim Mulerman, Valery Obodzinsky, Maya Kristalinskaya, Aida Vedishcheva, Larisa Mondrus, Emil Horovets, Nina Brodskaya gradually stopped filming such popular artists.

          Jews leaving the USSR to other countries were persecuted as “traitors”. In particular, Hero of the Soviet Union Mikhail Grabsky was stripped of this title and all other state awards [82]. Information about the Heroes of the USSR Wolfas Wilenskis, Mil Felsenstein and Kalmanis Shuras was not included at all in the two-volume reference book “Heroes of the Soviet Union” edited by Army General I. N. Shkadov, published in 1987-1988


          etc.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 9 November 2015 21: 47 New
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            There are no Nazi statements there. The truth is not worth the trouble. The Germans admitted that Hitler did the same and you need hi

            Noah, I think it’s clear to you that I called the USSR anti-Semitic, and not bydlyatsky.
            But to argue that in the USSR there was an anti-Semitic policy is generally ridiculous -

            What does the USSR have to do with it. You Muslim countries and African countries called cattle, only because they voted against Israel. These are Nazi statements.
            Let’s not talk about anti-Semitism in the USSR, but how many famous scientists, artists, ministers, war Jews were in the know. And no matter how it sounds crazy, they created Heb. Auth. Region - there was no Russian autonomous region, but a Jewish one. In Nazi Germany, this is anti-Semitism, and in the USSR there is an ordinary, idiotic everyday life, which is full in the rest of the world.
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 59 New
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              Quote: Your friend
              they called the cattle only because they voted against Israel. These are Nazi statements.


              Call someone cattle this Nazi saying? fool
              Do not write nonsense hi


              Let’s not talk about anti-Semitism in the USSR, but how many famous scientists, artists, ministers, war Jews were in the know.



              Yes it was, but it did not change anti-Semitic politics and nuances.

              Read anti-Semitism in the USSR on the wiki; in short, but generally understandable hi
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 9 November 2015 22: 14 New
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                Quote: Wiski
                Quote: Your friend
                they called the cattle only because they voted against Israel. These are Nazi statements.


                Call someone cattle this Nazi saying? fool
                Do not write nonsense hi


                Let’s not talk about anti-Semitism in the USSR, but how many famous scientists, artists, ministers, war Jews were in the know.



                Yes it was, but it did not change anti-Semitic politics and nuances.

                Read anti-Semitism in the USSR on the wiki; in short, but generally understandable hi


                Stupidity? Those. you persist in your statement that the Muslim and African peoples would .. Yes, you really are not a Nazi, you are just .... a bad person.
                I write to you again, there was no anti-Semitism in the USSR.
                1. Wiski
                  Wiski 9 November 2015 22: 28 New
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                  Quote: Your friend
                  I write to you again, there was no anti-Semitism in the USSR.


                  I lived there and to me, as a Jew, who was not allowed to break through somewhere and somewhere, more clearly wink



                  Quote: Your friend
                  Those. Do you persist in your claim that the Muslim and African peoples? Yes indeed you are not a Nazi, you just ....


                  I’m just a realist, and you should study the concepts that you use since you have no idea about them hi
                  1. Your friend
                    Your friend 9 November 2015 22: 49 New
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                    I lived there and to me, as a Jew, who was not allowed to break through somewhere and somewhere, more clearly wink

                    For some reason, nothing hindered the other Jews, but you certainly know better.
                    It’s cool if you weren’t allowed to get somewhere or where, it’s definitely anti-Semitism. Or maybe people "smarter" smarter than you, any Estonians or Kazakhs, but did you feel offended by this?

                    I’m just a realist, and you should study the concepts that you use since you have no idea about them hi

                    Of course, of course, to call byd ... oh whole nations is to be a realist, and not a banal, stubborn Natsik. In reality, you are no different from local anti-Semites.)))
                    1. Wiski
                      Wiski 9 November 2015 23: 05 New
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                      Quote: Your friend
                      For some reason, nothing hindered the other Jews, but you certainly know better.



                      Many were in the way.

                      Or maybe people "smarter" smarter than you, any Estonians or Kazakhs, but did you feel offended by this?


                      If fellow . You just have not come across this and are not able to understand tongue

                      Quote: Your friend
                      Of course, of course, to call byd ... oh whole nations is to be a realist, and not a banal, stubborn Natsik. In reality, you are no different from local anti-Semites.)))



                      In general, I wrote there not only about byd .., but also about anti-Semites. Muslims are essentially (but not all, there are exceptions, but I talked about those who voted) of their anti-Semites for the most part. They always vote against Israel, and no matter why, they have such a company.

                      And given that this is byd .. spiritually undeveloped, wordlessly submissive people who obey the will of others and allow themselves to be exploited - then this completely describes the other countries that voted FOR. In this case, people are countries.
                      So yes, I think so hi

                      By the way, you still haven’t figured out the terms — I advise you to finally figure it out. Again, I had in mind the politics of the country, not the peoples.
                      The fact that there was anti-Semitism in the USSR and there was an anti-Semitic policy does not mean that all anti-Semites in the USSR yes
                      1. Your friend
                        Your friend 9 November 2015 23: 27 New
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                        Many were in the way.

                        Very many did not interfere. Why are you arguing, once again there are many Jews among the artists, the military, in the government ... If there was anti-Semitism, then it would be like in Nazi Germany.
                        Had a fellow. You just have not come across this and are not able to understand tongue

                        Well, of course, I'm not able to understand. In the USSR, for example, there was nat. quota, for example in Kachinsky school, for nat. minorities reserved seats, and no matter how smart you Russian guy would be, you couldn’t get to school if all the places for the “titular” nation were selected. Do you think the USSR was anti-Russian?
                        In general, I wrote there not only about byd .., but also about anti-Semites. Muslims are essentially (but not all, there are exceptions, but I talked about those who voted) of their anti-Semites for the most part. They always vote against Israel, and no matter why, they have such a company.

                        And given that this is a byd ... spiritually undeveloped, wordlessly submissive people who obey the will of others and allow themselves to be exploited - this completely describes other countries that voted FOR. In this case, people are countries.
                        So yes, I think so hi

                        By the way, you still haven’t figured out the terms — I advise you to finally figure it out. Again, I had in mind the politics of the country, not the peoples.
                        The fact that there was anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic politics in the USSR does not mean that in the USSR all anti-Semites are yes

                        You are a Jew, you call Muslim and Arab countries - dumb cattle and this is not Nazism? Yes, even I really "did not understand the terms."
                        You also managed to stick anti-Semitism to Muslims, well, "for the most part" (it’s cool here you don’t have a fresh reservation that you had in mind "country’s policy, not peoples"). I say you are just the other side of the coin of local anti-Semites. There is no difference between you.
                      2. Maki Avellevich
                        Maki Avellevich 11 November 2015 07: 13 New
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                        Very many did not interfere.
                    2. andj61
                      andj61 9 November 2015 23: 28 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Wiski
                      By the way, you still haven’t figured out the terms — I advise you to finally figure it out. Again, I had in mind the politics of the country, not the peoples.
                      The fact that there was anti-Semitism in the USSR and there was an anti-Semitic policy does not mean that all anti-Semites in the USSR

                      And in my opinion, it’s you who are confusing concepts. In the USSR, anti-Semitism may have been, but this was not state policy, and this was not encouraged by the authorities. But anti-Zionism was - and in the rank of state. politicians. Just do not equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. This is for you, maybe the same concepts, but for me they are different.
                      Jews were treated with caution in the USSR, singling out from nearby, but no more than people of other nationalities. By the way, the Central Asians and Caucasians were much more biased. But this is understandable - in the 70s they only began to appear in central Russia. Jews lived here for a long time, and if the older (00-40 years of birth of the 20th century) still remembered religious differences, then we (the 50-60s of the birth of the 20th century) already spit on it. And they belonged to the Jews - and to all the others - to a large extent by their purely human qualities. And, frankly, no one was interested in nationality, if the features characteristic of nationality were not present. And in view of the obvious differences then there were Asians and Caucasians, and not Jews at all. Among my friends, in addition to the Slavs, there are Jews, Kazakhs, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Finns, Germans, Tatar, Chuvash.
                      And for some reason, we do not have questions of national hatred. Would a good man.
                    3. Wiski
                      Wiski 9 November 2015 23: 45 New
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                      but this was not state policy, and this was not encouraged by the authorities.



                      USSR Minister of Culture Ekaterina Furtseva publicly stated that the number of Jewish students should be equal to the number of Jewish miners

                      After the severance of diplomatic relations with Israel, a powerful campaign for the ideological struggle against Zionism gained strength in the USSR. In practice, she often turned into anti-Semitism. In particular, the admission of Jews to a number of prestigious universities was limited, as well as to work in law enforcement agencies, abroad and in institutions working with foreigners. In 1972, at the suit of the International League against Racism, a trial took place in Paris, which established that the magazine "USSR", published by the Soviet embassies in Paris, London and Rome, published an article that was an exact copy of the pre-revolutionary anti-Semitic brochure of the Mikhail Union Archangel published in St. Petersburg in 1906 with the subtitle “On the impossibility of granting full rights to Jews”



                      Quote: andj61
                      And they belonged to the Jews - and to all the others - to a large extent by their purely human qualities


                      Oh, if only.

                      In 1949, the campaign against the "cosmopolitans" began. Jewish issues were not permitted even within the framework of general Soviet periodicals. It came to the destruction of Jewish fonts preserved in some printing houses. In 1951, the removal of Jews from important government posts in Eastern European countries began.



                      Anti-Semitism was clearly manifested in discussions at that time in the USSR of problems of art and culture. When the poem “Babi Yar” appeared by E. Yevtushenko in September 1961, conservative and anti-Semitic elements among Soviet writers and critics attacked the work and the author with accusations of “cosmopolitanism”, and these attacks were accompanied by clearly anti-Semitic hints in the spirit of propaganda last years of Stalin.

                      Given the undesirable international outcry that open anti-Semitic newspapers, especially the central ones, could have caused, the Soviet press developed devious methods, which were expressed in tendentious coverage of Middle Eastern events with misinformation and half-truth, and even in a disproportionate amount of material about Israel in comparison with other events in the world . Anti-Zionism was also promoted by socio-political and literary magazines. In the 1970s and 80s many popular magazines, such as Twinkle and Man and the Law, were the most anti-Semitic. Until 1987, almost no issue of Ogonyok could do without any anti-Zionist material. The magazine "Man and the Law", covering the lawsuits against yoga teachers, inspired readers that these Jewish teachers are killing their gullible students, and in one of the correspondence from the United States indicated that there were no criminals among the Russian emigrants living in New York, but there are a lot of criminals among Jews who emigrated from the Soviet Union (Russia), but the police unknowingly mistook them for Russians (the reader could easily understand how much these Jews blacken the dignity of the Russian people in the eyes of Americans).
                      etc.
                    4. andj61
                      andj61 10 November 2015 11: 29 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Wiski
                      Quote: andj61
                      And they belonged to the Jews - and to all the others - to a large extent by their purely human qualities

                      Oh, if only.

                      Well - analyze - "what is your evidence"!
                      Furtseva was dragged in: of course, she was a minister during my lifetime, but you must admit in childhood - and when she died, I was 13 (but she was sick for a long time and did not control anything during the illness) - I don’t care about all kinds of ministers. In addition, raise - for what reason it was said. In a number of universities - legal, economic, related to the same culture - up to 80% of students were Jews. And not because they are exceptionally smart. The teacher was also Jewish and also facilitated the acceptance of his relatives, acquaintances, acquaintances, acquaintances. It was localism - and they fought with it. In the 70s and 80s, another factor arose that was also raised to the banner by those who insist on discrimination and anti-Semitism. This is a ban on working in a number of places associated with the state of those who had relatives abroad. I studied at MVTU im. Bauman. At my faculty, on my stream there were enough Jews, but at that time technical universities were no longer popular. But from the faculty, they trained rocket science specialists at the end of the 2nd year, they transferred to us a girl who married a Colombian communist: he is a communist, but a foreigner was impossible! Also, Jews were not allowed to secrets - and all the others who had relatives abroad. They didn’t set anyone apart!
                      After the institute, he worked at NII-4 of the Ministry of Defense - the head NII SRF. There were many Jews, but they complained that their acquaintances, whose relatives had left for PIZh in Israel, etc. they didn’t take to work. But even they did not explain this ban on work with anti-Semitism - this was a general rule for ALL.
                      The Cosmopolitan Affair You, of course, remembered the affair! good bully Still, the pogroms in the civilian in Ukraine, and there - during the time of the uprising B. Khmelnitsky remembered - that would be it!
                      But the fact that I didn’t especially read “Spark” - “Man and the Law” - was anti-Semitic - the whole crap. I remember how in the 80s, its editor-in-chief Korotich raised questions about cosmopolitans and the reasons for the Jewish pogroms in the early 20th century. Here are just a “Spark” spoke from clearly anti-Zionist positions, but you put an equal sign between these concepts.
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          3. Mordan
            Mordan 9 November 2015 22: 46 New
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            in this case, not an insult, but a reminder of the historical relations of Poland and Ukraine. It was with this word that the Polish lords called their Ukrainian slaves. The slaves have a short historical memory - and they are sure that now the Poles have become their best friends, who will give them money and weapons and support them for free in the fight against me. But the Polish lords have a very good memory.
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    3. SSeT
      SSeT 9 November 2015 23: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Wiski
      E. Lissitzky, I. Rybak, I. Tchaikov, I. Pan, A. Tyshler, M. Axelrod, M. Gorshman, R. Falk, M. Epstein, G. Inger, S. Bronstein, R. Margolin, S. Yudovin et al


      Excuse me, who are all these people? Especially for world history ?? Why are they so big? (without sarcasm, seriously !!)
  • Hello
    Hello 9 November 2015 21: 10 New
    +2
    Wiski
    Why do you become like an idiot, it doesn’t color you negative
    No offense, but in my opinion it's out of place
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Hello
      No offense, but in my opinion it's out of place



      Of course out of place. It was an attempt to show the stupidity of the comrade who wrote it.
      I thought it was obvious that I was not trying to offend anyone.
      If anything, sorry. hi
  • arane
    arane 9 November 2015 21: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: Wiski
    Russians are furious at the mere mention of their nationality. The word "Russian" is the SELF-name of their people, acts on them like a red rag on a bull. Use this word a couple of times in your comments and look at the opponent’s reaction.
    2) There are a few words that make Russians writhe, like hell from incense. This is Judaism, Socialism, the USSR, Trotsky. Positive remarks about Israel, about the Jewish people, about great Jewish political figures, about the achievements of the Jews and their contribution to science, art and other spheres immediately lead to the fact that the Russian begins to rush like a monkey, and if the Russian is more cunning, he tries anoint them with dirt stealthily, in order not to run into.
    3) Russians defend any crime committed by Russians. Therefore, it’s enough to mention any Russian crime, for example, a Russian crime will be tried - the Beilis case, which was completely justified - throw to the Jews, the doctors’ case, the actions of Russians in Chechnya, Crimea and Ukraine and Georgia, which led to the deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians - women and children, and immediately the identity of the interlocutor becomes clear. Russian will begin to defend criminals and homosexuals with foam at the mouth, a decent person will condemn.
    4) Russians are forbidden to praise Jews and condemn their fellow tribesmen. The Russian will never condemn the bloody executioner Stalin, but will always blame Troyky. Russian will never praise Jewish artists and sculptors, whose works have become masterpieces of world art of the 20 century: M. Chagall, E. Lisitsky, I. Rybak, I. Tchaikov, I. Pan, A. Tyshler, M. Axelrod, M. Gorshman, R. Falk, M. Epstein, G. Inger, S. Bronshtein, R. Margolin, S. Yudovin and others, but will always praise their fellow tribesmen - mish-pans.



    5) Jews are forbidden to write the word God. They write it to Gd. It’s clear why: the children of Satan cannot write and pronounce the name of God


    The Russians will never want to check how much false information they use blaming the Jews, because if they did, they would know that the Torah tells the Jews to take care of the Name of the Most High, as well as everything that carries any kduhu - "holiness."


    Minus to you from the heart! Not for your stupid post! Sorry for the banality, it is because of these that the word zh.id comes to mind! Are you offended by the no less stupid post of Mordan! So write to him in PM and bark there as much as you want. And so you can say they insulted not so much him as all my compatriots! He is also a minus.
    Here, not all Natsiks and anti-simsites, although there are some
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 23 New
      -2
      Yes, this was a joke in general.
  • Frigate
    Frigate 9 November 2015 21: 14 New
    +3
    Quote: Wiski
    Russians are furious at the mere mention of their nationality. The word "Russian" is the SELF-name of their people, acts on them like a red rag on a bull. Use this word a couple of times in your comments and look at the opponent’s reaction.
    2) There are a few words from which the Russians begin to writhe, like hell from incense .....

    Mdya, that's for this, the Jews do not like you. This is when the Russians were offended by the word Russian?
    And why should Russians speak well of Trotsky?
    And what does the torus say about non-Jews?
    And if the Russians are so bad, so why did you come to Russia?
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 9 November 2015 21: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Frigate
      Mdya, that's for this, the Jews do not like you. This is when the Russians were offended by the word Russian?


      Yes, I wanted to write something else instead of Russian, but here it is forbidden, but you understand what I mean.

      Quote: Frigate
      And why should Russians speak well of Trotsky?


      And what for the Jews about Stalin?

      Quote: Frigate
      And if the Russians are so bad, so why did you come to Russia?


      Yes, this is generally a joke - there was a parody that does not reflect my opinion in any way. smile
      1. arane
        arane 9 November 2015 23: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Wiski
        Quote: Frigate
        Mdya, that's for this, the Jews do not like you. This is when the Russians were offended by the word Russian?


        Yes, I wanted to write something else instead of Russian, but here it is forbidden, but you understand what I mean.

        Quote: Frigate
        And why should Russians speak well of Trotsky?


        And what for the Jews about Stalin?

        Quote: Frigate
        And if the Russians are so bad, so why did you come to Russia?


        Yes, this is generally a joke - there was a parody that does not reflect my opinion in any way. smile


        Alright world! Kill the topic! drinks
  • miru mir
    miru mir 9 November 2015 21: 56 New
    +1
    People are wise and stupid, bold and cowardly. And it does not depend on nationality. Judging by your komenty-you are stupid.
  • Your friend
    Your friend 9 November 2015 21: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Mordan
    Jews are furious at the mere mention of their nationality. The word "Jew" is the SELF-name of their people, acts on them like a red rag on a bull. Use this word a couple of times in your comments and look at the opponent’s reaction.
    2) There are a few words that make Jews writhe like hell from incense. These are Christ, Christianity (Orthodoxy), Socialism, USSR, I.V. Stalin. Positive remarks about Russia, the Russian people, the great Russian political figures, tsars, etc. immediately lead to the fact that the Jew begins to throw poop like a monkey, and if the Jew is more cunning, then he tries to anoint them with dirt stealthily, in passing, so as not to run into.
    3) Jews defend any crime committed by the Jews. Therefore, it is enough to mention any Jewish crime, for example, the ritual murder of Alyosha Yushchinsky by Beilis, the betrayal of France by Captain Dreyfus, or the recent bombing of the Gaza Strip in Palestine by incendiary phosphorus bombs, which led to the deaths of hundreds of innocent children, and immediately the identity of the interlocutor becomes clear. a Jew begins to defend criminals and homosexuals with foam at the mouth, a decent person will condemn.
    4) Jews are forbidden to praise non-Jews (goyim) and condemn their fellow tribesmen. a Jew will never condemn the bloodthirsty executioner of Trotsky, but will always blame Stalin. a Jew will never praise Russian artists Vasily Mikhailovich Vasnetsov or Pavel Viktorovich Ryzhenko, but he will always praise his fellow tribesmen - mashilok-incomplete Chagalls, Kandinsky and Malevichs. A Jew will never say a good word about the great Soviet Russian writer M.I.Sholokhov, but he will always praise the small rhyme of a Jew, Joseph Brodsky /
    5) Jews are forbidden to write the word God. They write it to Gd. It is understandable why: the children of Satan should not write and pronounce the name of God.

    Some kind of nonsense. Who pluses this?
    1. Hello
      Hello 9 November 2015 21: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Your friend
      Some kind of nonsense. Who pluses this?

      The same guys with one crinkle. wink
  • 34 region
    34 region 9 November 2015 22: 29 New
    -1
    With a red rag, you are bent! Bulls color blind. Red color is not seen. And their friends with swords annoy, inflicting injections and hurting them. A red rag is for the viewer (attracts attention).
    1. arane
      arane 9 November 2015 23: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: 34 region
      With a red rag, you are bent! Bulls color blind. Red color is not seen. And their friends with swords annoy, inflicting injections and hurting them. A red rag is for the viewer (attracts attention).



      Actually, this is a figurative expression ...... "like a red rag for a bull"
    2. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 9 November 2015 23: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: 34 region
      And their friends with swords irritate, inflicting injections and hurting them.

      annoying their sudden movements with a cloak ...
  • biron
    biron 9 November 2015 19: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: st25310
    Comrades of Israel: what are the real prerequisites for moving towards peace in the region ???

    It would be nice to apply sanctions to America.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 9 November 2015 22: 34 New
      +1
      Interesting! What are the sanctions? Do not supply US weapons? winked
  • Zheka40
    Zheka40 9 November 2015 19: 35 New
    +1
    Want to see the most nationalist state in the world of the 21st century? Where is it, maybe in totalitarian North Korea? Not! This is Israel baby! (C)
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 9 November 2015 20: 05 New
      +2
      Pure truth - a Jewish acquaintance wanted to move to his historical homeland, flew to check out, as there. At the airport, Israeli border guards took his laptop away from him and looked at everything that was possible in this poor laptop, literally turned it inside out, such as "suddenly you have correspondence with Arabs-terrorists there." A friend pereplevilsya, changed his mind about moving, no longer yearns for his historical homeland :)
      1. Michael_59
        Michael_59 9 November 2015 21: 51 New
        +2
        Looks like the edge of the wrong system ...
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 9 November 2015 22: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        change his mind, no longer yearns for his historical homeland

        Glory to Alahu!
      3. MACCABI-TLV
        MACCABI-TLV 9 November 2015 23: 47 New
        +4
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        At the airport, Israeli border guards took his laptop away from him and looked at everything that was possible in that poor laptop, literally turned it inside out, such as "suddenly you have correspondence with Arabs-terrorists there"

        But they didn’t take it away in Egypt, everyone knows how unfortunately it ended ....
        One of you (either you or a friend) should stop making up.
      4. atalef
        atalef 10 November 2015 13: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Pure truth - a Jewish acquaintance wanted to move to his historical homeland, flew to check out, as there. At the airport, Israeli border guards took his laptop away from him and looked at everything that was possible in this poor laptop, literally turned it inside out, such as "suddenly you have correspondence with Arabs-terrorists there." A friend pereplevilsya, changed his mind about moving, no longer yearns for his historical homeland :)

        The storyteller, he arrived, looked that there is a need to plow, came up with a story about notebooks - and returned with dignity.
      5. atalef
        atalef 10 November 2015 13: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Pure truth - a Jewish acquaintance wanted to move to his historical homeland, flew to check out, as there. At the airport, Israeli border guards took his laptop away from him and looked at everything that was possible in this poor laptop, literally turned it inside out, such as "suddenly you have correspondence with Arabs-terrorists there." A friend pereplevilsya, changed his mind about moving, no longer yearns for his historical homeland :)

        The storyteller, he arrived, looked that there is a need to plow, came up with a story about notebooks - and returned with dignity.
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 9 November 2015 22: 00 New
      +5
      Annette Haskia. Muslim arabic woman. The mother of three IDF soldiers.
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 9 November 2015 20: 13 New
    -6
    Hello. Here's the reason for trolling. You refute on the points that are listed. Mordan. And yet: The dash of dignity, the case of doctors, the catechism.
    1. Hello
      Hello 9 November 2015 20: 59 New
      +3
      Quote: Boris Zidkov
      Hello. Here's the reason for trolling. You refute on the points that are listed. Mordan. And yet: The dash of dignity, the case of doctors, the catechism.

      Now I’ll just take a run. I’m angry and I don’t give wink
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 9 November 2015 20: 41 New
    +2
    Why does the Israelis have a state and the Palestinians have a “sector”?

    Not for the sake of srach - I honestly don’t know. request Can anyone explain? hi
    1. atalef
      atalef 9 November 2015 20: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Why does the Israelis have a state and the Palestinians have a “sector”?

      Not for the sake of srach - I honestly don’t know. request Can anyone explain? hi

      Because the place is so called, the sector of the city of Gaza.
      What about the state? This is to Abu Mazen (their president), when he will be able to come to Gaza from West Berega (without the threat that they will cut him into ribbons from a cap) - then Zap. Bereg and Gaza can unite and make the state - PALESTINE, but for now they hate each other more than the Israelis.
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 9 November 2015 20: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Why does the Israelis have a state and the Palestinians have a “sector”?

      It’s just that the Israelites have the bad memories associated with the word “ghetto,” which is why they call it “the sector” - that’s more politically correct.
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 9 November 2015 21: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: GRAY
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Why does the Israelis have a state and the Palestinians have a “sector”?

        It’s just that the Israelites have the bad memories associated with the word “ghetto,” which is why they call it “the sector” - that’s more politically correct.

        Now they will tell you that the standard of living of Arabs in the Gaza Strip is higher than that of Russians.)
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 9 November 2015 22: 06 New
        +2
        ghetto gases.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 9 November 2015 22: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: miru mir
          ghetto gases.

          Paradise of the earth, og.
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 9 November 2015 22: 27 New
            +1
            Terrorist points destroyed, og.
          2. Wiski
            Wiski 9 November 2015 22: 37 New
            +6
            Well, this "paradise" is because the Palestinians are firing from / near residential buildings, hospitals, mosques, etc.
            1. SSeT
              SSeT 10 November 2015 00: 05 New
              +3
              I was in Jerusalem a couple of years ago. Impressions Pts interesting. Arabs live autonomies right in the city, which is interesting. On the border of autonomy, the walls are in the sky and the tension, the roadblocks, in the city and inside the walls are calmly and somehow colorful-soulful or something. People are busy with their affairs and do not climb to each other. Communicated with everyone, quite calmly. The soldiers patrol the wailing wall, spoke with the Russian-speaking, as far as the commander allowed. Very interesting, go, you will not regret it. And yes! don't joke at israeli customs! hi
      3. MACCABI-TLV
        MACCABI-TLV 9 November 2015 23: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: GRAY
        It’s just that the Israelites have the bad memories associated with the word “ghetto,” which is why they call it “the sector” - that’s more politically correct.

        do you have any complaints against Egypt bordering the sector?
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 9 November 2015 20: 51 New
    +4
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Why does the Israelis have a state and the Palestinians have a “sector”?

    Not for the sake of srach - I honestly don’t know. request Can anyone explain? hi


    That way they came to the apartment to Filipp Filippych Schvondera, were condensed, now he is renting a room with Sharikov ...
  • snifer
    snifer 9 November 2015 21: 36 New
    +2
    I love Israeli branches wassat
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 10 November 2015 00: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: snifer
      I love Israeli branches wassat


      Oh brother! If there was an opportunity to throw srach from Israeli branches, it would be a song on V.O.! wink
      For example, this:

      They converged. Wave and stone
      Poetry and prose, ice and flame
      Not so different among themselves.
      At first the mutual difference
      They were boring to each other;
      Then I liked it; later
      Come down every day on horseback
      And soon became inseparable.
      So people (the first I repent)
      From doing nothing friends! yes
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 9 November 2015 21: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: Wiski
    Quote: st25310
    Comrades of Israel: what are the real prerequisites for moving towards peace in the region ???


    In the region? This is your American-Russian problem already wassat
    The Arab-Israeli conflict has long been no longer a regional issue, despite many trying to create that feeling. The problem between the Palestinians and Israel is now the smallest. ISIS, Iraq, Syria, terror in Egypt, etc. - these are problems.

    And peace between Arabs and Jews will never come because the Arabs do not and did not have the goal of peace.

    There was a prime minister in Israel, who believed in 2006 or 2007 that the Golan should be returned to Syria. What would Israel have next to itself in the situation in Syria? God forbid now to twitch at all on the return of territories.
    Israel had already left Gaza; there were elections, but after them Hamas seized power by force, refused all agreements and began firing rockets at Israel. Who guarantees Israel that this will not happen? Global community? Not. We saw what happened after the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon - Hezbollah, according to the UN decision, should have been disbanded, but did not. After which there was a second Lebanese war and again the UN Security Council decided to disarm Hezbollah and even put UNIFIL forces near the border. Did it help? No - Hezbollah remained, armed to the teeth.

    Israel offered peace on almost all conditions of the Arabs - this was shared by our two prime ministers, Barak-Arafat and Olmert Abu Mazen. Both Arafat and Olmert refused. Why, because they got everything? But because they do not need peace. If there is peace, they will have to survive on their own, they will have to accept a couple of millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps; they don’t need it.

    Now, in general, a wild situation. According to his Palestinian law, Abu Mazen would have been obliged to hold elections 7-8 years ago. In fact, it is no longer legitimate since it was not chosen. Abu Mazen does not have power in the Gaza Strip - that is, half the territory of a future Palestinian state. The agreement with him does not solve the problem with 1,8 million Palestinians and Hamas in Gaza. So who is Abu Mazen really representing now? Exactly.

    And peace between Arabs and Jews will never come because the Arabs do not and did not have the goal of peace.

    And what is their purpose? Accept the selected lands. So you are not going to give them away.
    God forbid now to twitch at all on the return of territories.
    Where is the world to look for?
    Abu Mazen has no power in the Gaza Strip - that is, half the territory of the future Palestinian state

    Well, God himself ordered the situation to be taken while the water is muddy. No offense, you are not the only ones.
    Who guarantees Israel that this will not happen?

    This is yeah ... and if, for example, with the tacit consent of the observing parties, you expanded your possessions by another 1000 km. Who would guarantee you?
    PS: Separately, I will highlight in the postscript. I have nothing against the nationality of anyone. Just reasoning from what is. hi
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 9 November 2015 22: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: NIKNN
      And what is their purpose? Accept the selected lands. So you are not going to give them away.


      The goal is constant conflict.
      Of course, to reconcile, after so many attempts to destroy the Jews, it would be time to reconcile that the Jews would not give more territory — they did not deserve it.
      They already have enough land.

      By the way, according to polls in East Jerusalem, most Arabs will want to move to Israel.

      The Beit Sahur Public Opinion Research Center published a survey of Arabs living in East Jerusalem. When asked what kind of citizenship they would prefer, Israeli or Palestinian, if they had such a choice, 52% of respondents said that they would prefer to keep the Teudat Zeut.

      Only 42% of East Jerusalem residents would prefer to obtain Palestinian citizenship if such a thing were ever created.


      And this survey was not yet conducted in a difficult situation — that is, if it came to the real point that refugees from the camps would rush into the future Palestinian state (refugees can be put in quotation marks, since the UN only made them refugees, in all other cases the refugee it’s the one who himself was expelled or fled, and among the Palestinians, by a special UN decision, they gave the concept of refugee to those who were born in another country - laughter and only here you can clearly see the attempt of the world community and Arab countries not to arrange Arabs inside the country, as they did Jews who accepted 700-800 thousand Jews who fled. Again, this was done to maintain the conflict), then almost all Arabs would want to stay in Israel.

      Here are the words of a Palestinian Muslim -

      According to Bassam Aid, the head and founder of the Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group:

      The camp where I grew up, like 58 other UNRWA refugee camps, was created with the sole purpose of preserving the Palestinian Arab people in “temporary” conditions for 65 years now under the false pretext and plausible promise of the “right to return” to the villages of 1948 that do not exist ... UNRWA continues to depend on the death and suffering of five million Palestinians mired in UNRWA camps ... The more Palestinians suffer, the more funds go to UNRWA, which allows it to attract uncontrolled humanitarian funds and to procure ammunition ... Palestinian people obliged to rebel against the arbitrariness of the UNRWA administration, which seeks to perpetuate our refugee status, instead of helping our people strive for a better future ...




      Where is the world to look for?


      As where? Israel is ready to give up about 90% of Judea and Samaria (West Bank). Live and be happy.
      Places the sea.


      Quote: NIKNN
      Well, God himself ordered the situation to be taken while the water is muddy. No offense, you are not the only ones.


      But it was a shame since this is a stupid comparison
      By the way, the Palestinians held elections — the first democratic ones, and then Hamas began to kill his own people and seized power — this is a showdown between his own people. Everyone was waiting for the Palestinians to choose peace or war; they chose war.


      Quote: NIKNN
      This is yeah ... and if, for example, with the tacit consent of the observing parties, you expanded your possessions by another 1000 km. Who would guarantee you?


      What is the connection at all?
  • kepmor
    kepmor 9 November 2015 22: 48 New
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    Quote: coconut tim
    It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!

    It’s time for the moderators to set up a separate column for such masterpieces of popular thought! Well, right. Ready anecdote!
    1. arane
      arane 9 November 2015 23: 26 New
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      Quote: kepmor
      Quote: coconut tim
      It must be so! 40 years wandering through the desert to choose a place where there is no oil, no gas and all around enemies!

      It’s time for the moderators to set up a separate column for such masterpieces of popular thought! Well, right. Ready anecdote!


      This joke is a hundred years old at lunch, even Zadornov walked on it
  • 1rl141
    1rl141 9 November 2015 23: 29 New
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    Quote: Wiski
    The goal is constant conflict.
    Of course, to reconcile, after so many attempts to destroy the Jews, it would be time to reconcile that the Jews would not give more territory — they did not deserve it.
    They already have enough land.


    Well, the true degree of Jewry is manifested. Hitler is straight with pace. He knows to whom and how much is needed for complete happiness. Who deserves it. Some Jews are always and only a little. They need more. They certainly deserve more.
    You Jews, when you shied away in the desert, you’ve got a big headache. As practice has shown, Jews are very cool about staying behind the Arctic Circle for some time. After that, the Jews cease to be arrogant and become like people.
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 9 November 2015 23: 52 New
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      Quote: 1rl141
      Well, the true degree of Jewry is manifested. Hitler straight with pace.


      In your silly fantasies wink

      He knows whom and how much is needed for complete happiness. Who deserves it


      Oh, I'm sorry that the Jews do not allow themselves to destroy the Arabs, so that they rejoice. fool

      Jews alone always and little. They need more. They certainly deserve more.


      Oh, what passions. How many Jews have taken? How much land did the Arabs get? No need to make ignorant comparisons. Jews deserved to have a territory that allows them to live quietly and fight off the Arabs who tried to destroy them, especially considering that it was the Arabs who did not agree to the division proposed by the UN and therefore Israel maintains such borders that allow it to defend itself.
      And with all this, the Arabs have a great place to create their own state if they want to.

      Israel does not have to divide Jerusalem and evict settlers - this is Jewish land.

      You Jews, when you shied in the desert, you see your head baked hard


      See you see nothing fool

      As practice has shown, Jews are very good at cooling off their stay, for some time, beyond the Arctic Circle. After that, the Jews cease to be arrogant and become like people.


      As practice has shown, people like you are not able to think adequately and write all kinds of nonsense, and in this case, to me, reading such an opus from someone who does not consider Jews to be people — that is, an ordinary anti-Semitic racist — is not interesting. hi
  • 1rl141
    1rl141 9 November 2015 23: 42 New
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    Quote: Wiski
    Quote: Your friend
    I write to you again, there was no anti-Semitism in the USSR.

    I lived there and to me, as a Jew, who was not allowed to break through somewhere and somewhere, more clearly


    So it’s not a special mind and abilities, since it has not broken through.
    And you might think, in Israel, all the doors are open for a simple Arab! Directly come in, dear Arab friend, take the position you want, and if you want, you can become president! Yes, you have goitic Semitism there!
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      1. Your friend
        Your friend 10 November 2015 00: 19 New
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        Quote: Wiski
        Quote: 1rl141
        So it’s not a special mind and abilities, since it has not broken through.


        According to numerous evidence and facts, from the second half of the 1960s to the beginning of the 1980s, Jews who were educated or worked in the field of mathematics in the USSR were discriminated against when entering universities, graduate schools and work, defending dissertations, while trying to publish article or book when traveling to scientific conferences and abroad

        One of the most scandalous areas of this discrimination was the massive prevention of admission of applicants of Jewish origin to the Faculty of Mechanics and Mathematics of Moscow State University. Georgy Shpiro calls the current rector of Moscow State University Viktor Sadovnichy (at that time supervised the work of the selection committee), dean of the mehmat Oleg Lupanov, as well as professor and senior examiner Alexander Mishchenko, the main conductors of the discriminatory policy on mehmat. Alexander Shen adds to this list a number of members of the selection committee. The leading researcher of the Mehmat Vladimir Tkachuk writes about mass discrimination of Jews in those years at the entrance exams in mathematics in the popular manual “Mathematics for the applicant”. A similar system operated at the Bauman Moscow State Technical University and some other prestigious universities

        There were significantly fewer Jews admitted to the Mechanics and Mathematics Department of Moscow State University in 1978 than under the conditions of the “percentage rate” of the Russian Empire. This year, 21 graduates of one of the Moscow mathematical schools entered the faculty, of which 14 were Russians and 7 were Jews. All 14 Russians were accepted, out of 7 Jews - only 1 (he received the I prize at the International Mathematical Olympiad and for 3 consecutive years received the 1978st prize at the All-Union Olympiads). Among the Jews who were not accepted, two were the repeated winners of the Moscow Olympiad (Prizewinner of the All-Russian Olympiad Zinovy ​​Reichshtein could not enter the Mechmath of Moscow State University in 1988, and later became a professor of mathematics at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, successfully completing graduate school at Harvard University in XNUMX).


        The tasks themselves, which were offered to Jewish applicants at the entrance exams at the Faculty of Mechanics and Mathematics of Moscow State University, gained fame and became the subject of discussion in the international scientific community. Academician Sakharov noted that one of the tasks offered to Jewish applicants he himself solved with difficulty as a result of an hour's work in peace and quiet at home, and the applicant had only 20 minutes during the exam with an unfriendly examiner. Sakharov noted that for the solution he used his considerable experience in solving complex mathematical problems, as well as a large stock of mathematical knowledge.

        Ethnic discrimination was recorded both statistically and documented. Senderov not only investigated the problem, but compiled lists of the most tricky tasks, prepared a memo on how to answer the exams, and helped applicants in their struggle with the selection commissions. Senderov published the results of his research together with Boris Kanevsky in 1980 in a samizdat entitled “Intellectual Genocide”.


        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Деканы_МГУ
        You yourself will find the deans of the Jews at Moscow State University, or tell me?
        Stop nonsense to post.
        1. Wiski
          Wiski 10 November 2015 00: 22 New
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          Quote: Your friend
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Деканы_МГУ
          You yourself will find the deans of the Jews at Moscow State University, or tell me?
          Stop nonsense to post.



          These are proven facts. hi

          In the mid-1970s, a campaign of mass rejection through the Higher Attestation Commission of candidate and doctoral dissertations defended by Jewish mathematicians began. To do this, specially ordered unfair and biased reviews were used. For 20 years (from 1964 to 1984) not a single mathematician of Jewish origin was elected to the USSR Academy of Sciences. A member of 10 foreign academies, one of the greatest mathematicians of the 31th century, Israel Gelfand for XNUMX years could not become a full member of the Academy of Sciences due to the opposition of Vinogradov and Pontryagin
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 10 November 2015 00: 34 New
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            Quote: Wiski
            Quote: Your friend
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Деканы_МГУ
            You yourself will find the deans of the Jews at Moscow State University, or tell me?
            Stop nonsense to post.



            These are proven facts. hi

            In the mid-1970s, a campaign of mass rejection through the Higher Attestation Commission of candidate and doctoral dissertations defended by Jewish mathematicians began. To do this, specially ordered unfair and biased reviews were used. For 20 years (from 1964 to 1984) not a single mathematician of Jewish origin was elected to the USSR Academy of Sciences. A member of 10 foreign academies, one of the greatest mathematicians of the 31th century, Israel Gelfand for XNUMX years could not become a full member of the Academy of Sciences due to the opposition of Vinogradov and Pontryagin


            And a corresponding member of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 53g. Gelfand became due to the fact that there was no anti-Semitism then? And then came anti-Semitism? And then, when he was elected a full member of the USSR Academy of Sciences, did anti-Semism go back?
            Here he is ....
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 10 November 2015 00: 46 New
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              And a corresponding member of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 53g. Gelfand became due to the fact that there was no anti-Semitism then? And then came anti-Semitism? And then, when he was elected a full member of the USSR Academy of Sciences, did anti-Semism go back?
              Here he is ....



              Anti-Semitism does not mean that everything was forbidden to everyone, but also that everything was complicated or delayed.

              Gelfand, if he were Russian, would become an academician much earlier. But nationality did not come out bully


              Judge for yourself. 53 recognized as a corresponding member of the Academy of Sciences, after which he was not made an academician despite -






              Honorary Member of the Moscow Mathematical Society (1971)
              Honorary Doctor (Honoris Causa)
              Oxford University (1973)
              Sorbonne University (1973)
              Harvard University (1976)
              Princeton University (1977)
              Uppsala University (1977)
              Honorary Foreign Member
              American Academy of Arts and Sciences (1964)
              American Mathematical Society (1966)
              London Mathematical Society (1967)
              United States National Academy of Sciences (NAS) (1970)
              Royal Irish Academy (1970)
              Royal Swedish Academy (1974)
              Academies of Sciences of France (Académie des Sciences, 1976)
              Royal Society of London (1977)


              First Wolf Mathematics Prize Winner (1978)
              Wigner Medal of the International Union for Group Theory in Physics (Wigner Medaille, 1980)
              Stalin Prizes (1951, 1953)
              Lenin Prize (1961)
              Three Orders of Lenin (1954, 1956, 1973)
              Two Orders of the Red Banner of Labor (1963, 1983)
              Order of Friendship of Peoples (1975)
              Order of the Badge of Honor (1953)
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 10 November 2015 00: 52 New
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                Quote: Wiski
                And a corresponding member of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 53g. Gelfand became due to the fact that there was no anti-Semitism then? And then came anti-Semitism? And then, when he was elected a full member of the USSR Academy of Sciences, did anti-Semism go back?
                Here he is ....



                Anti-Semitism does not mean that everything was forbidden to everyone, but also that everything was complicated or delayed.

                Gelfand, if he were Russian, would become an academician much earlier. But nationality did not come out bully


                Judge for yourself. 53 recognized as a corresponding member of the Academy of Sciences, after which he was not made an academician despite -






                Honorary Member of the Moscow Mathematical Society (1971)
                Honorary Doctor (Honoris Causa)
                Oxford University (1973)
                Sorbonne University (1973)
                Harvard University (1976)
                Princeton University (1977)
                Uppsala University (1977)
                Honorary Foreign Member
                American Academy of Arts and Sciences (1964)
                American Mathematical Society (1966)
                London Mathematical Society (1967)
                United States National Academy of Sciences (NAS) (1970)
                Royal Irish Academy (1970)
                Royal Swedish Academy (1974)
                Academies of Sciences of France (Académie des Sciences, 1976)
                Royal Society of London (1977)


                First Wolf Mathematics Prize Winner (1978)
                Wigner Medal of the International Union for Group Theory in Physics (Wigner Medaille, 1980)
                Stalin Prizes (1951, 1953)
                Lenin Prize (1961)
                Three Orders of Lenin (1954, 1956, 1973)
                Two Orders of the Red Banner of Labor (1963, 1983)
                Order of Friendship of Peoples (1975)
                Order of the Badge of Honor (1953)

                Well, of course, only because of anti-Semitism, and not at all because there might have been more worthy people, not because academic science is this terrible viper, where they are ready to “kill” each other for their titles. And of course, due to anti-Semitism, Gelfand was given orders, prizes. Horrible, just suicidal anti-Semitism. Nothing better than gas chambers in German concentration camps.
              2. andj61
                andj61 10 November 2015 11: 44 New
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                Quote: Wiski
                Anti-Semitism does not mean that everything was forbidden to everyone, but also that everything was complicated or delayed.
                Gelfand, if he were Russian, would become an academician much earlier. But nationality did not come out

                Do you think he was pinched because he was a Jew? And his colleagues - regardless of their nationality - recall his unbearable character!
                Gelfand's student A. A. Abramov recalled:
                It is known that Dorodnitsyn and Israel Moiseyevich Gelfand had a relationship ... strained ... Gelfand had a spoiled relationship, in my opinion, with everyone. <...> There was a banquet in honor of Israel Moiseevich. His student, Zeitlin, speaks: “Israel Moiseevich, I know why you are an honorary member of many academies in the world, and we are not an academician!” "Why?" <...> "Because they know your work there, but do not know you as a person!"
                The Director of the Hematological Scientific Center, Academician A.I. Vorobyov, who considered himself a student of I.M. Gelfand, gave him this characteristic:
                What to say about him? That Gelfand boor is like saying nothing. He is rude to disgrace.
                Recalls V. M. Tikhomirov:
                Pretty soon, I stopped attending the Gelfand seminar. Partly because he understood little, but also for one more reason. Gelfand allowed himself, as it were softer to say, very indelicate remarks in relation to the seminar participants.
                Once, in front of an audience of 14-08, I saw my friend and fellow student (his life was cut short very early), who was in extreme excitement. When I asked him what was the matter, he sent a flurry of curses on me, which he was preparing to honor Israel Moiseevich when he left the audience. And the whole thing was that my friend managed to ask the speaker a question. Gelfand exclaimed: “Do not answer! Our seminar is designed for literate people. ” I barely reassured my friend, but fearing such remarks addressed to me, I stopped going to the Gelfand seminar.
                - Walks with I. M. Gelfand
                These same features of Gelfand in communication with people were noted by A. M. Yaglom and E. B. Dynkin.
            2. Wiski
              Wiski 10 November 2015 00: 47 New
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              The policy of not allowing mathematicians of Jewish origin to international conferences and to the Academy of Sciences is associated with the names of the then head of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy of Sciences L. S. Pontryagin and director of the Steklov Institute of Mathematics RAS Academician Ivan Vinogradov:

              “... Pontryagin, an outstanding mathematician, but a terrible anti-Semite, did not let him into academics. Gelfand’s non-election to the USSR Academy of Sciences was a shame. Gelfand was already an academician of several foreign academies, but at the department of mathematics, where Pontryagin was heavy, Gelfand was overwhelmed many times. After another failure of Gelfand, I protested at the general meeting of the Academy, and Academician Leonovich asked the then President of the Academy Anatoly Petrovich Alexandrov the question: “Does a member of foreign academies have the right to become a Soviet academician?” Alexandrov, perplexed, replies: “Of course, he has ...” Everyone who needs to have guessed who they were talking about. Gelfand's long non-election to the USSR Academy of Sciences was a shame.
              Acad. E. L. Feinberg »

              «
              It seemed that the Central Committee even singled out a position for Gelfand, but the dense stream of anti-Semitic academics under the leadership of Ivan Matveevich [Vinogradov] decided to lay bones, but not to let Gelfand into the ranks of the Russian Academy. And, in the end, the Central Committee could not do anything with them.
              Ilya Iosifovich Pyatetsky-Shapiro "


              The restrictive policy of the mathematics department of the Academy of Sciences regarding Jews, however, had much more ancient roots:

              “This [Nobel Prize award to L. V. Kantorovich] was an unusual phenomenon, given the situation of terry anti-Semitism that reigned in mathematical science. Incidentally, this anti-Semitism has a long history. And in the pre-war time, there was one and only one Jewish academician in the department of mathematics of the USSR Academy of Sciences, which contrasted sharply with the departments of physics, chemistry, etc. And this custom lasted until recently. For many years, such an academic was Sergei Natanovich Bernstein. After his death, he became Leonid Vitalievich Kantorovich, and at the end of his life in academics, Israel Moiseevich Gelfand, one of the most powerful mathematicians living in the world, was finally selected.
              Doctor of Economics A. I. Katsenelinboygen "
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 10 November 2015 01: 02 New
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                Quote: Wiski
                The policy of not allowing mathematicians of Jewish origin to international conferences and to the Academy of Sciences is associated with the names of the then head of the Department of Mathematics of the Academy of Sciences L. S. Pontryagin and director of the Steklov Institute of Mathematics RAS Academician Ivan Vinogradov:

                “... Pontryagin, an outstanding mathematician, but a terrible anti-Semite, did not let him into academics. Gelfand’s non-election to the USSR Academy of Sciences was a shame. Gelfand was already an academician of several foreign academies, but at the department of mathematics, where Pontryagin was heavy, Gelfand was overwhelmed many times. After another failure of Gelfand, I protested at the general meeting of the Academy, and Academician Leonovich asked the then President of the Academy Anatoly Petrovich Alexandrov the question: “Does a member of foreign academies have the right to become a Soviet academician?” Alexandrov, perplexed, replies: “Of course, he has ...” Everyone who needs to have guessed who they were talking about. Gelfand's long non-election to the USSR Academy of Sciences was a shame.
                Acad. E. L. Feinberg »

                «
                It seemed that the Central Committee even singled out a position for Gelfand, but the dense stream of anti-Semitic academics under the leadership of Ivan Matveevich [Vinogradov] decided to lay bones, but not to let Gelfand into the ranks of the Russian Academy. And, in the end, the Central Committee could not do anything with them.
                Ilya Iosifovich Pyatetsky-Shapiro "


                The restrictive policy of the mathematics department of the Academy of Sciences regarding Jews, however, had much more ancient roots:

                “This [Nobel Prize award to L. V. Kantorovich] was an unusual phenomenon, given the situation of terry anti-Semitism that reigned in mathematical science. Incidentally, this anti-Semitism has a long history. And in the pre-war time, there was one and only one Jewish academician in the department of mathematics of the USSR Academy of Sciences, which contrasted sharply with the departments of physics, chemistry, etc. And this custom lasted until recently. For many years, such an academic was Sergei Natanovich Bernstein. After his death, he became Leonid Vitalievich Kantorovich, and at the end of his life in academics, Israel Moiseevich Gelfand, one of the most powerful mathematicians living in the world, was finally selected.
                Doctor of Economics A. I. Katsenelinboygen "

                Cool, these people consider the number of Jews in mathematics, not mathematical achievements, namely, they believe that the number of Jews should be greater, just because they are Jews.
                And the funny thing is that in your stupid attempts to prove the anti-Semitism of USSR science, you proved its absence - "And in the pre-war era, there was only one Jewish academician in the department of mathematics of the USSR Academy of Sciences, which contrasted sharply with the departments of physics, chemistry, etc." . Those. in physics and chemistry with the Jews everything was ok.)))
  • SSeT
    SSeT 9 November 2015 23: 44 New
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    Quote: Wiski
    E. Lissitzky, I. Rybak, I. Tchaikov, I. Pan, A. Tyshler, M. Axelrod, M. Gorshman, R. Falk, M. Epstein, G. Inger, S. Bronstein, R. Margolin, S. Yudovin et al


    Excuse me, who are all these people for world history ?? Why are they so great? (without sarcasm, seriously !!)
  • MACCABI-TLV
    MACCABI-TLV 10 November 2015 00: 17 New
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    [media = https: //vk.com/video3126785_164159227]
    [media = http: //ok.ru/video/5811603704]
  • 1rl141
    1rl141 10 November 2015 00: 19 New
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    Quote: Wiski

    As practice has shown, people like you are not able to think adequately and write all kinds of nonsense, and in this case, to me, reading such an opus from someone who does not consider Jews to be people — that is, an ordinary anti-Semitic racist — is not interesting.

    It’s worth a little bit to hook a Jew and that’s it! Racist and anti-Semite! And the stinkers swept all over the world! Why are you so offended? It’s straight, I’d say it’s omitted .... It’s just that you have an ICP ... You start to yell and crow, cockerel ... Relax, we’re not afraid of fighting males.
    Quote: Wiski
    Yes, this is generally a joke - there was a parody that does not reflect my opinion in any way.
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 10 November 2015 00: 25 New
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      Quote: 1rl141
      It’s worth a little bit to hook a Jew and that’s it! Racist and anti-Semite! And the stinkers swept all over the world! Why are you so offended? It’s straight, I’d say it’s omitted .... It’s just that you have an ICP ... You start to yell and crow, cockerel ... Relax, we’re not afraid of fighting males.


      This is exactly your reaction to the truth.
      This is how anti-Semites attack Jews like you. So racists and anti-Semites make excuses - if a Jew suddenly called racist and anti-Semite those who he really is, they immediately begin to write, "It’s worth a little bit to hook a Jew and that's it! Racist and anti-Semite!" etc.

      You are stupid attempts to otmazatsya bully
    2. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 10 November 2015 02: 04 New
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      Quote: 1rl141
      Relax, we’re not afraid of fighting males here.

      in the absence of a brain, fear is an unknown feeling! fool
      1. noWAR
        noWAR 10 November 2015 03: 07 New
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        Fear is an instinct, not the result of violent brain activity. Do you know these things or?
        1. MACCABI-TLV
          MACCABI-TLV 10 November 2015 11: 19 New
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          Quote: noWAR
          Fear is an instinct, not the result of violent brain activity. Do you know these things or?

          yeah, your digestive activity comes ...
  • Pimply
    Pimply 10 November 2015 00: 30 New
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    This music will be eternal
  • 1rl141
    1rl141 10 November 2015 00: 58 New
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    Quote: SSeT
    Quote: Wiski
    E. Lissitzky, I. Rybak, I. Tchaikov, I. Pan, A. Tyshler, M. Axelrod, M. Gorshman, R. Falk, M. Epstein, G. Inger, S. Bronstein, R. Margolin, S. Yudovin et al

    Excuse me, who are all these people for world history ?? Why are they so great? (without sarcasm, seriously !!)


    Lissitzky is like an artist. He either had problems with his psyche or smoked boorish shmal. Jews consider him great.
    Isn't the fisherman a violinist?
    Seagulls - a sculptor. There are many. Not Michelangelo, but the Jews consider him great.
    Tyshler is also like an artist. Shmal smoked no less boisterous than Lissitzky’s. Jews consider him great.
    Axelrod is like an artist. Jews consider him great because he painted Jews.
    Gorshman is an artist. He drew pictures for books. Illustrated. Jews consider him a Jewish Dürer, even better.
    Falk is an artist in a Jewish theater; therefore, by definition, he is great.
    Epstein - a type of philosopher. Professor Russian culture and literatureBut at an American university ... At a Russian university, it seemed to him "it was impossible to break through," or maybe he simply did not shine ...
    And others. - The artists of the same plan in the style of popular primitivism.

    In general, these people are not remarkable for anything special. They are the same as many. If they were not doing what they were doing and even if they were not born at all, the world would not have noticed the loss of fighters. And after a couple of decades no one will remember them. Well, except for the Jews themselves, of course .. They will also have to convince the world of their exclusivity with something.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 10 November 2015 06: 33 New
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      Quote: 1rl141
      Well, except for the Jews themselves, of course .. They will also have to convince the world of their exclusivity with something.

      Naturally. And the greatest Russian poet, according to the West, including Israel, means Yosya Brodsky.
      Regarding the lands disputed between Arabs and Israelis - a good article: http://www.pro-israel.ru/palestina-i-israel.html
      Israel and Palestine conflict history - lies deep enough. Two sides should understand this issue, because, as the history of Israel and Palestine says, two peoples can live together on the same territory.
      These are the last lines of the article.
      But the God-chosen is allowed everything (or rather, they allow themselves to do so).
      And they write and rewrite history themselves, starting from biblical times. And they managed to spread their religion throughout the Earth. True, they themselves abstracted from it.
      Such a property of character.
      For myself, one Old Testament (Torah), for others, squeezes (quotes).
      It is useless to argue with colleagues from Israel. They (the Jews) have always believed (and will continue to believe) that they are the most offended people on Earth, you can’t prove anything.
    2. SSeT
      SSeT 10 November 2015 23: 59 New
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      1RL141 SU:
      Actually about this and my post was. Small-town Jewish celebrities no more. Like our mayor
  • srelock
    srelock 10 November 2015 02: 18 New
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    "Kosher" for Israel - federalization. Palestine as part of Israel as a Republic, and Fatah and Hamas in the Knesset. True, such an idyll is not included in the US plans ... smile
  • kasperian_1
    kasperian_1 10 November 2015 11: 49 New
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    Israel is being played negative
  • 1rl141
    1rl141 10 November 2015 12: 16 New
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    Having drawn the line, we can conclude that all those people whom the Jews consider to be great Jews and mentioned here were born, raised, brought up, trained, achieved remarkable results in their activities in Russia.
    That is, they went through a Russian school. And they became great Jews. The conclusion is, when you cook there by yourself, I’m sorry, you don’t get anything good out of you. And if you don’t push, nothing good will come of you.
    Therefore, sit upright and do not crow. If you do not want to thank your homeland, then at least keep silent. You will seem smarter.
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 10 November 2015 12: 51 New
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    Wiski, USSR Minister of Culture, Yekaterina Furtseva publicly stated that the number of Jewish students should be equal to the number of Jewish miners. She worked at the mine as an explosive. But I didn’t see any Jews there. And I don’t know a Jewish miner.