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The drums of war are rattling? ("Latvijas Avize", Latvia)

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The drums of war are rattling? ("Latvijas Avize", Latvia)


Ilya Ilf and Yevgeny Petrov in a satirical novel “The Golden Calf” described a fire in a communal apartment called “Voronya Slobodka”. Its inhabitants only said that there would be a fire in the apartment, so they hurried to protect themselves and slowly carried out valuable things. “The fate of the house was sealed. He could not burn. And indeed - at twelve o'clock at night he was engulfed in flames at the same time in six places, ”wrote Ilf and Petrov with characteristic humor.

It is not necessary to be an outstanding expert in black or white magic in order to know that events can be “told”. And therefore it becomes quite uncomfortable when from time to time predictions are heard about the almost inevitable war between the West and Russia. Well-known experts speak about this (for example, Garry Kasparov, Zbigniew Brzezinski), in a recent interview with Latvijas Avīze this opinion was also expressed by businessman Vilis Vitols. In turn, in the Russian media since the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict there are headlines - "This is the beginning of the Third World War."

It seems that in the West, especially in Europe, they no longer understand what it really means - war. Three generations grew up without war, and the latter is more likely to be associated with a computer game. A similar spiritual situation reigned in Europe a hundred years ago at the beginning of the First World War. On the streets of Berlin, Vienna, London, Paris, St. Petersburg and Riga, people happily embraced when they heard the cries of the boys selling newspapers: “War! The war has begun! ” The first Latvian riflemen were escorted to the front, as if on a romantic walk, the mood of euphoria prevailed among the people: “We throw these Fritz hats!”.

In most Western countries, they switched to a professional army. If you want to fight - this is your free choice, your “bread”, I pay my taxes for it. A professional army has many advantages, but there are some disadvantages. If a young man cannot wake up in time in the morning, and before leaving home he forgets to make the bed (which they would surely have been pressured in the barracks) - this is not a big problem. Much more serious is the alienation of the people from their army.

It creates a frivolous atmosphere in which politicians are tempted to "play around" with the war. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair recently apologized to the American television channel CNN for starting the war in Iraq: “Then we didn’t realize what this would lead to. Everyone who had a hand in the Iraq war is responsible for the current events in the Middle East. ” Recall that the invasion of Iraq was supported by the then ruling coalition of Latvia. The consequences we are feeling today are quite real: more than a million dead, destabilization of the whole region, the civil war in Syria, the formation of the disgusting "Islamic State" and the refugees are now at the door of Latvia.

In Europe, there is a kind of dissociation from the ideas of militarism, but in Russia something is emerging like a new religion, a new cult, in the center of which is the Armed Forces. For about fifteen years (more precisely, since Vladimir Putin came to power), the Russian state-controlled media has been very thoughtful, sophisticated and, it must be admitted, successful propaganda, in which the army is portrayed as a defender, a unifier of the people, a keeper of stories, national spirit, etc. In numerous films, soldiers, a war veteran, or an officer with a family, are fighting evil — the mafia, corrupt officials, and simply wins against ill-wishers. St. Andrew’s flag and St. George ribbon became more popular symbols than the three-color state standard. Now in Russia, the biggest competitions for admission are not in prestigious universities, but in cadet corps. Putin often quotes the words of Alexander III that Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy.

In general, it seems that the world began to play with fire, in some places it is conscious, and in some places because of ignorance or childish innocence. A small consolation: an article by a certain military analyst came across the Internet who asserts: in the event of a nuclear war, the potential targets of Russia will most likely be not the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ...
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 November 2015 08: 17 New
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    The media controlled by the Russian state are very thoughtful, sophisticated and, it must be recognized, successful propaganda, in which the army is portrayed as a defender, unifier of the people, the keeper of glorious history, national spirit, etc.

    And in the Western media their armies are probably portrayed as enemies, renegades, and generally alien bodies. That's what Russia is like, all across the wool.
    1. Finches
      Finches 10 November 2015 08: 28 New
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      Many prophecies, though similar to the immortal,

      "" Do you think that the Emperor will leave it all like that? You don't know him well. There must be a war with the Turks. "They killed my uncle, so here you are in the face!" There will be war, it's like giving it to drink. Serbia and Russia will help us in this war. There will be a fight! "- so after the assassination of the heir to the Austrian throne, Archduke Ferdinand, Schweik prophesied with a mug of beer in his hand.",

      Nevertheless, I want to know - and who needs it? And everyone understands everything perfectly well - War, or just rumors of war, are always needed by tycoons from the military-industrial complex and whose politicians they cover, here are corrupt journalists, specialists of all stripes, experts, etc., sitting on the handouts of these gentlemen and tossing a wood pole into the fire!

      By the way, now I wrote a phrase from the famous novel "The Adventures of the Gallant Soldier Schweik" and remembered that Hasek created it in Kiev, in a house at st. Volodymyrska, 36 ... B And the names of the Ukrainian capital is now an artificial outpost created by the West for inciting hatred towards Russia! If only the politicians of this very West and some Ukrainian leaders read this novel again and think ... I will allow myself to end my post with a quote from this wonderful novel:"It's not easy - to get in somewhere. Everyone can climb in, but to get out - this is the real art of war. When a person climbs somewhere, he must know what is happening around so as not to get into a puddle called disaster .... " laughing
      1. Sober
        Sober 10 November 2015 09: 22 New
        +2
        Sorry, but somehow, I did not quite understand your post. First I wanted to put a minus, then a plus.?
        1. Finches
          Finches 10 November 2015 09: 53 New
          +1
          It turned out a bit allegorical ... I mean that a lot of experts divorced - predictors discussing a global war or here are articles of this type, as if warning, but still about the war and it is with Russia, and that Russia is to blame for everything, most of which are very delusional in nature, as well as Schweik’s prediction ... Nevertheless, all of this kind of article is in the hands of the magnates of the military-industrial complex, since you can spin the flywheel of the arms race and row taxpayer money with a shovel! And the end of the post, I just remembered that Hasek wrote a novel in Kiev, which is quite symbolic for the current situation, and, as it were, he warned everyone with a quote from the novel that it’s good, it’s not good! hi
        2. BecmepH
          BecmepH 10 November 2015 10: 11 New
          0
          And I did not understand the sending of the article ...
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 10 November 2015 11: 58 New
            +1
            And I did not understand the sending of the article ... ,,
            I understand that Russia has already worn boots, and the free world cares about the world. Moreover, they understand that wherever this world, wherever it fits, it always turns out worse than it was.
            1. 341712
              341712 10 November 2015 14: 02 New
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              Quote: kotvov
              I understand that Russia has already worn boots, and the ,, free ,, world cares about the world.

              At the same time, stealthily pokes into Russia with sharpening ...
        3. Sasha 19871987
          Sasha 19871987 10 November 2015 11: 26 New
          +1
          then everything was bible, and at the beginning there was a word ... and thoughts are material. There are a lot of words about the war ... I am definitely against these moods, and again we are being dragged through zombies into adventures ...
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 10 November 2015 08: 29 New
      12
      The Baltic states now have all the articles in this spirit: detached - romantic, that is, not wildly Russophobic, but with hints! We sensed problems from sanctions, it begins to reach that the EU is not eternal, in short curse with the Russian Federation, only at a loss!
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 10 November 2015 08: 38 New
        +6
        "Small consolation: an article by a military analyst came across on the Internet, who claims: in the event of a nuclear war, Russia's potential targets will most likely be not the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ..." ??! Not at all ... In "Caliber" their vents do not take long.
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      3. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 10 November 2015 09: 42 New
        +5
        Well, the author gave it, a typical European national pacifist, probably did not notice pacifists dressed in fascist uniforms in the Baltic and Okrainsk schools, did not notice foreign troops near the borders of Russia, and so on. they, the masters from the west, liked it when the Russian army was broken and plundered, the "freedom-loving" Balts, who long ago settled down under the enlightened west, spat on Russian interests with a grin, and how all this camarilla was worried about the strengthening of Russia in terms of defense and it seems even scary to spit, yes and Russia can afford to simply ignore these mongrels.
    3. Juborg
      Juborg 10 November 2015 12: 52 New
      +1
      The article is complete nonsense and demagoguery. The article is not about anything, or rather about what !? And that allegedly it is the Russians provoking everyone to the war by strengthening their army, as if others did not do this and, in particular, the United States was bombing countries with weak (in comparison with their armies) armies. And the article says that Russia is making a cult and propaganda out of the army and that Putin is quoting (apparently the communist Alexander III) the Russian emperor. And NATO has not almost doubled and does not stand on the borders of Russia !? I’m already silent that Russia is declared "enemy number 1", the same Americans with the British. So what India, and that "Greenpeace" banned in the country as an organization threatening national security.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 10 November 2015 08: 18 New
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    On the whole, it seems that the game began with fire in the world, in some places it is conscious, and in some places due to ignorance or childish naivety.


    I agree ...
    there is a geopolitical reorganization of the world ...
    The unipolar world, the face of the United States does not want to give its power over the world to other players and how it will end alone the Almighty knows.
    1. shershen
      shershen 10 November 2015 08: 51 New
      +3
      People throughout Europe (and not only) will be encouraged by the media to introduce the inevitability of war.
  3. avvg
    avvg 10 November 2015 08: 20 New
    +3
    Playing with the fire of the West and for them the consequences will be very, very deplorable.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 November 2015 08: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: avvg
      Playing with the fire of the West and for them the consequences will be very, very deplorable.



      They forgot how to handle matches and too believed in the effectiveness of American movie heroes.
  4. venaya
    venaya 10 November 2015 08: 20 New
    +3
    A frivolous atmosphere is created in which politicians are tempted to “play around” with the war

    And by whom this atmosphere is created. It is necessary to have strong nerves, a cold mind and always take into account where we live, what we listen to and watch, commissioned by the backstage.
  5. Oman 47
    Oman 47 10 November 2015 08: 21 New
    +4
    Comes to hot Estonian giraffes? belay
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 10 November 2015 08: 31 New
      +3
      "Latvijas Avize", Latvia
      Quote: Oman 47
      Comes to hot Estonian giraffes?

      Slightly missed. See title: "Latvijas Avize", Latvia.
      1. 341712
        341712 10 November 2015 14: 05 New
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        Quote: V.ic
        Oman 47 (3) Today, 08: 21 New
        Comes to hot Estonian giraffes?
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        V.ic (5) Today, 08: 31 ↑ New
        "Latvijas Avize", Latvia
        Quote: Oman 47
        Comes to hot Estonian giraffes?
        Slightly missed. See title: "Latvijas Avize", Latvia.


        We do not understand humus varieties ....
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 10 November 2015 08: 21 New
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    The author began with the wrong premise, which is why all the other conclusions in the article turned out to be controversial: the fire in Voronya Slobodka did not happen from talking about a fire, but because almost all (but this is another story) tenants insured their property against fire ... And everyone began to suspect the other of the intention to set fire to the common house.
    Russia is not at all immune from a general fire, on the contrary, it is building up fire-fighting equipment.
    1. i80186
      i80186 10 November 2015 08: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: inkass_98
      The author began with the wrong premise, which is why all the other conclusions in the article turned out to be controversial: the fire in Voronya Slobodka did not happen from talking about a fire, but because almost all (but this is another story) tenants insured their property against fire ...

      Well, he won't say in plain text what "American insurance" in the form of NATO membership can lead to. And so everything is clear to everyone.
    2. shershen
      shershen 10 November 2015 08: 53 New
      +1
      unfortunately, the "build-up of fire-fighting equipment" in Europe is interpreted in its own way
      1. Sober
        Sober 10 November 2015 09: 32 New
        +2
        They cannot do otherwise. They do not shake, but squeeze them.
    3. Sober
      Sober 10 November 2015 09: 31 New
      0
      A good amendment and, clearly and correctly formulated the answer to the article. And who does not like respect for the St. George ribbon, thereby showing that they are not friends to us, and if it weren’t for this respect, they would not mind making Russia capitalized.
  7. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 10 November 2015 08: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: avvg
    A little consolation: an article of a certain military analyst came across the Internet, who claims that in the event of a nuclear war, Russia’s potential targets will most likely be not the capital of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ...

    And to hell with us Warsaw? Especially nuclear bombs? If only missile defense? Well, don’t bet!
    1. Sober
      Sober 10 November 2015 09: 33 New
      +1
      Here, indeed, a strange statement.
  8. Barboskin
    Barboskin 10 November 2015 08: 25 New
    +2
    The author is a smart guy, the case says. War is a very big evil, God forbid.
    1. shershen
      shershen 10 November 2015 08: 55 New
      +3
      evil for those who will be a direct or indirect participant in the war.
      And for the uncles who will be with this stretch coupons - good.
      every war is first of all a redistribution of property on a state scale, a raider seizure, if you like. No one is safe from this.
      1. Azitral
        Azitral 10 November 2015 10: 28 New
        +5
        About cutting coupons and rejoicing. I beg to differ. There may not be such heavenly places where you can "cut". The situation with the Great War is unpredictable in principle. Such options: the main players have weakened each other to such an extent that some New Zealand, where you expected to sit out, is captured by Indonesia (the population is almost two of the Russian Federation) or someone from Latin America. Making analogs with the Second World War is a fundamental mistake, there will be nothing like it. An ideal war scenario for ANY player is highly unlikely. And in the "world behind the scenes" fools are rare. I don't think they are there at all. So it's not about coupons. The point seems to be an attempt to reduce the population of the Earth by 5-6 times on the sly. By the way, the chemical disarmament of the United States will only be available by 2026. And this is a very effective means against huge masses of poorly armed people, when you can already take off your mask and spit on non-combatants openly.
    2. SAM 5
      SAM 5 10 November 2015 09: 06 New
      +3
      Author smart guy

      ??? !!!
    3. Sober
      Sober 10 November 2015 09: 37 New
      +2
      I can not minus or plus! Both in the article itself and in yours, mutually exclusive statements! But, I agree with the author of the article and with you:
      Quote: Barboskin
      War is a very big evil, God forbid.
  9. drop
    drop 10 November 2015 08: 26 New
    +8
    Dear politicians, stop this bacchanal in the media. War is the grief of the people, but the joy of billionaires. Remember how the people, understanding nothing, accompanied the Russians to the war in the 1914 year with songs. What it led to - the liquidation of the Russian Empire. I have the honor.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 November 2015 08: 52 New
      +3
      This is really for whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear.
  10. SAM 5
    SAM 5 10 November 2015 08: 27 New
    +4
    in the event of a nuclear war, the potential targets of Russia will most likely be not the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ...

    Well, damn it, insanity.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 10 November 2015 08: 38 New
      +1
      This is not insanity .. this is a disease of your politicians .. And you just have diarrhea, Yuri Lorenz ..
      Quote: SAM 5
      in the event of a nuclear war, the potential targets of Russia will most likely be not the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ...

      Well, damn it, insanity.
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 10 November 2015 08: 29 New
    +6
    "the famous expert of Kasparov" ... Oh, mom, they have dirty harry in their authority. Don't be afraid, unfortunate person, to waste plutonium on you, we'll come to the armored personnel carrier and all your fascist proshtatovskoy pack to felling, to gain intelligence.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 10 November 2015 11: 12 New
      +1
      In the Arctic, they are preparing ice.
  12. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 10 November 2015 08: 33 New
    +5
    in the event of a nuclear war, the potential targets of Russia will most likely be not the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ...

    Do not worry. Everyone will get who barked at us and deployed weapons against us.
  13. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 10 November 2015 08: 34 New
    +2
    The author is right that a generation of politicians has grown up who are not afraid of war. Tales that nuclear war is the end of the world are still in the heads of many non-combatants. But politicians and military leaders have long known that radiation falls off very quickly, after a year the background is not much higher than before the event. Hiroshima and Nagasaki rebuilt very quickly and have been living normally for decades. There will be no nuclear winter, the number of nuclear munitions has greatly decreased compared to the times when these models counted, and counted them for the case of undermining all nuclear warheads in Western Europe, and not according to a more realistic distribution.
    So, unfortunately, really fear does not stop those in power in the west.
    Of course, and without a fatal impact on the environment, it will be BP anyway. Hundreds of millions will die, and not only in Europe. Civilization will be discarded in its development for some years.
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +7
    In Europe, a kind of dissociation from the ideas of militarism is observed, but in Russia something like a new religion, a new cult, in the center of which the Armed Forces, is emerging.

    Here it is issued. In the spirit of Baltic senility nationalism aspirated to the west. But just in case, I tried to designate for Russia the goal in Europe - Poland. It can be understood as a kind of excuse - we certainly hate you and throw mud at you, but we are a small country, therefore, in which case, you are please fucking around Poland.
  15. Sergelis
    Sergelis 10 November 2015 08: 52 New
    +5
    How long has Kasparov become an "expert"? All the more famous ...
    1. Sober
      Sober 10 November 2015 09: 41 New
      +2
      Famous zas.ransom a long time!
  16. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 10 November 2015 08: 59 New
    +8
    Dear colleagues, if I were you, I would have somewhat tempered my ardor and reacted more calmly to this yapping from the ESovskaya gate! I don’t want to repeat platitudes, but historically it so happened that the Russian Army has always DEFENSE its people and their FATHERLAND and this is not negotiable! But let this "home-grown" Priboltsk "expert" look back at his so beloved West and what he will see there, and see the gangs of "landsknechts" who abundantly watered the so-called lands with blood. "civilized countries", the fires of the Inquisition and the villainy of the next "European Fuhrer", who is first raised and then "begged" Russia to "calm him down"! The article is rubbish and you shouldn't think about it anymore!
    1. Decathlon
      Decathlon 10 November 2015 09: 09 New
      +1
      I fully support you! hi Soon we will start publishing articles from the censor ?! I understand: in order to beat the enemy, you need to know his weapon. But, firstly: I don’t see the enemy, but only a temporary hindrance, in which case. Secondly: the article itself, as a hidden information weapon, was clearly “forged” not in the Baltics, but you yourself know where! The article is a minus, definitely!
  17. 2224460
    2224460 10 November 2015 09: 00 New
    +1
    Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair recently apologized to the start of the Iraq war in an interview with CNN:
    Worthless is the price of his apology.
    but in Russia something like a new religion is emerging, a new cult, in the center of which the Armed Forces.
    Or maybe pride for our Armed Forces is reviving, you look again, the profession of a soldier will be prestigious, and the manager will remain a slag.
  18. rus-5819
    rus-5819 10 November 2015 09: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Sergelis
    How long has Kasparov become an "expert"? All the more famous ...


    Well, what about? He is a chess player - he knows everything three moves ahead. The most important thing is that the fourth move knows where to hide your own ass.
  19. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 10 November 2015 09: 11 New
    0
    The drain is counted .. But in general it is not for us with this article, it is overseas, please! The military doctrine of Russia has been and remains defensive !!!
  20. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 10 November 2015 09: 11 New
    +1
    As always, in all the troubles, real and imaginary, real and potential, Russia is to blame.
  21. vsdvs
    vsdvs 10 November 2015 09: 14 New
    0
    "In Europe, there is a kind of dissociation from the ideas of militarism, but in Russia something like a new religion, a new cult, in the center of which the Armed Forces, is emerging" - are we the main militarists? For this one phrase very fat minus article.
  22. Indifferent
    Indifferent 10 November 2015 09: 15 New
    +1
    The intelligence of the people in Western countries has decreased significantly. They do not even represent the horrors of modern warfare. And when some regular NATO secretary broadcasts that war is coming, he does not even understand the minimal danger of such a war. Yes, after exchanging nuclear missiles in 10 days, you can wander around the radioactive territory without any particular danger of dying. But there are still nuclear plants, chemical plants, petrochemical plants, which will be fully operational in the first hours of the war. Cities will turn into solid blockages of broken brick and reinforced concrete reinforcement. All logistics will be broken. The people will simply begin to die out of starvation in large cities. Plus looters, just criminals, ready to rob and kill. After all, the entire regime of power will be violated.
    Is life really so burdensome for the western man in the street that hatred of Russia will make him live in the basement and eat poisonous foods. And those can end at any moment.
    Indeed, modern war cannot be compared with the First World War. There the rich did not suffer too much from the hardships of war. They had it all. But what will they have in a modern war?
    Apparently the stupidity of people is indestructible and does not depend on social status.
    As for Kasparov and Bzizhinsky. That first has a long-term progressive schizophrenia, and the second has senile senility.
  23. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 10 November 2015 09: 16 New
    0
    War is a radical remedy, hunger and cold, slower, but no less effective, a little reassured that I’m not afraid of the cold))) now minus 15 outside the window and I’m very happy - you can go to the sink!
  24. Batia
    Batia 10 November 2015 09: 29 New
    +7
    Many have lost their fear of war. There are many reasons, both "shooters" for the younger generation and propaganda. But, in my opinion, there is not a generation in Russia that has not been caught by the burns of war. We need to fight for peace with weapons in our hands, otherwise we will not live. I am a fierce opponent of war, but I am an excellent shooter, a serious military specialty, still in reserve (age), and for the fact that there would be no oppression and destruction of my Motherland, I will take up arms. This is such pacifism.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 10 November 2015 10: 35 New
      +1
      you know the namesake, although I’m retired (by age), but if God forbid that ... t remember from what end Kalash is charging, in my opinion it will not last long!
      I have the honor!
  25. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 10 November 2015 09: 48 New
    0
    For more than 10 years the Baltics have been living only at the expense of the Russian threat: they will not want Russia to conquer them, they will not have money from the main sponsors))
  26. Cappit
    Cappit 10 November 2015 09: 56 New
    0
    Since when did Kasparov become a "famous expert"?
  27. Cappit
    Cappit 10 November 2015 10: 02 New
    +1
    "... in the event of a nuclear war, the potential targets of Russia, most likely, will not be the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ..." - the only sensible idea.
  28. Averias
    Averias 10 November 2015 10: 15 New
    +2
    I have already said, I repeat, the cynicism of society is off the charts, as is the gap from reality. You don't need to go far, I cite my neighbor as an example (part-time dad is my precious). It seems like a smart man, like not a durak, even a doctor and even an honored doctor of Russia. And with patriotism and respect for their country, everything is in order. But something is wrong with him, or rather with that organ called the brain. Straight some kind of anomaly. And that's why, as soon as the events happened in Ukraine, when Crimea became ours and the world whistle began. He, on the next evening walk (we have such a exercise), puffing out his cheeks and making meaningful rotations with his eyes, said - there will be war. Figase - I told him about such loud statements. You asked healthy, everything is all right at home, had a fight with your wife? Eka you my friend brought something. And he is not in any, oppressing his - war, war, war. Three days later, I burst out, gave him a "purgen" for the most I can not. I asked him, do you really imagine what a WAR is? You, an adult, "croak" with such ecstasy on this topic. Do you really want war? Are you practicing sadomaso damn it on the sly? After all, even when you say this terrible word, you savor it. And it’s not just about war (although the term is simply not applicable here), you’re talking about a war with the use of nuclear weapons! You durak I asked him? Offended, they stopped talking, and still. And I hear something like that often, but you start to explain it to them logically, there's no point in it. They look like ....... a
  29. maikl50jrij
    maikl50jrij 10 November 2015 10: 26 New
    0
    Drove a minus! When half the world was destroyed, NATO and its bases rose in the same Baltic states, us, a certain Juris, associates with militarism !!! And in this situation it cannot be otherwise! We touched the West European shit with a toe of a boot and we had enough! And we are not at all happy with any kind of apology for anyone for actions similar to those that led to the non-existence of the once prosperous countries of B. Vostok! angry
  30. asiat_61
    asiat_61 10 November 2015 10: 26 New
    0
    most likely, they will not be the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ... It will not be easier for you, and neither will we. Somewhere I read the interesting idea that ... now a generation has come to politics that has not made war, and therefore is so loud Faberge ... Indeed, Schroeder, Kohl, Andropov, Brezhnev did not have a healthy look at the war. They all seem to be some kind of computer game.
  31. mamont5
    mamont5 10 November 2015 10: 34 New
    +1
    "In general, it seems that a game with fire has begun in the world, in some places it is conscious, and in some places because of ignorance or childish naivety."

    And there is. Here is just a rhetorical question - Who started this "game"?

    "Small consolation: an article by a military analyst came across on the Internet, who claims: in the event of a nuclear war, Russia's potential targets will most likely not be the capitals of the Baltic states, but Warsaw."

    And when the war begins, it will not matter at all who will be the first, and who the next is enough for everyone, everyone will get ...
  32. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 November 2015 10: 35 New
    +3
    You will not beat the drums of war, we will not beat you in the tambourine.))
    Their drums are booming, yelling ...
  33. teron
    teron 10 November 2015 10: 45 New
    +1
    It’s rich in the author’s head. Either he writes about alienation from the professional army in the countries of Europe, then here we have propaganda putting the army at the forefront. Well, if not alienation, then this is how it should be - both a defender and a liberator, etc. etc.
  34. marinier
    marinier 10 November 2015 12: 20 New
    0
    Good time of the day, yep!
    In my opinion, at all times, the Army has been elite society! Observed in
    recent time positive trends in the media RUSSIA, eating a logical result
    politics in general. In my view of the article, there is a twofold feeling, sung
    I think time will show

    P.S. A vremya works for RUSSIA !!!
  35. vladimirw
    vladimirw 10 November 2015 12: 25 New
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    And the little article with a trick, Russia is preparing, yes, that there is already ready for war! And the "peaceful" west will lose to her
  36. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 10 November 2015 12: 51 New
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    The Baltic states (3 "... lands" + Poland) are extremely flattered by the thought, born by them, that they can be the seed for the third world war. Moreover, the politicians of these formations themselves (and a significant part of the population) were so convinced of the threat from the east that they are no longer able to think about anything else. However, three obvious things will never reach them:
    a) as a way to escalate tensions with Russia - these places are ideally suited (but only as geographic territories, not countries);
    b) as a state, no one needs them right now (the dream of the European Union is to wake up in the morning, but there are no "young members");
    b) in the event of war, they disappear first, so as not to interfere (immediately with the whole bag - and with their statehood and independence).
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 10 November 2015 14: 23 New
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      The top of idiocy is to be proud of the fact that you are a bait in a mousetrap. Although the bait does not decide your fate)))) And YaU for extinctions, in general from the Petrosyan region))))) There is an extraordinary day of airborne forces, with a trip to nature enough to smash this halal to smithereens and half ....
      1. Kite
        Kite 11 November 2015 21: 11 New
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        Quote: Kunar
        There is an extraordinary day of the Airborne Forces, with a trip to the countryside, enough to smash this halabud to smithereens and to half ..

        - there is a bad place for a picnic, I even felt sick there and didn’t like Palanga there. And it’s not worth the effort to spend on walks in Lithuanian swamps.
  37. Earnest
    Earnest 10 November 2015 15: 07 New
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    The last thing we want is war - those who have already fought. I really like the picture that I will insert below - two worlds fit in its two halves. The world on the left does not deserve comments without a mate. The world on the right is very well known to me. One of the most vile memories from the "right" world is not my men who died, but how in 2001 I was driving in a hospital shishiga, as usual, half was asleep, the other was playing cards, suddenly a blow, a crash, the back wall was completely ripped out, the left side was half lower , and a meter away from me, the medic's neck punched, I pulled it out of the kunga shishigi, I tried to squeeze her wound with one hand, and I got tangled in the peem cord with the other hand, I tugged and didn’t understand that it wasn’t letting in, I thought it’s too bad, but I’m looking her, between the fingers, blood flows bright, bright. I wanted so much to run away, my people were gone, there was no need to lead the battle, but she grabbed my hand and it was not clear which was worse - to die myself or to leave her like that. There was a dump for a minute, then it realizes that there is no shooting, and this is not an ambush, but an accident. And everyone was so happy that they even broke the tradition of hitting the muzzles of the carriers. And the medic was cured.
  38. Kite
    Kite 10 November 2015 18: 58 New
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    Warsaw is a large city in a large (by European standards) country, but it is insignificant as an attack target, military targets can be attacked without touching traders and prostitutes. But with the Baltic "tigers" it is more difficult! On their territory, it is more difficult to separate bases and airfields from the heap of their surrounding towns. So, a certain "splendid anal-itic" lied to the author. You, Juris Lorencs, would be better off not harnessing yourself to the Amerzian gang, to sit quietly on the sidelines, and not to invite African-American "warriors" to your post.
  39. Weyland
    Weyland 11 November 2015 01: 53 New
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    A little consolation: an article of a certain military analyst came across the Internet, who claims that in the event of a nuclear war, Russia’s potential targets will most likely be not the capital of the Baltic states, but Warsaw ...

    I immediately remembered an old joke about how the Americans asked a question to the Armenian radio:
    - Which city of the USSR is the most beautiful?
    - Yerevan?
    - And what power is a nuclear bomb needed to completely destroy?
    - ...
    after a pause:
    - Sorry, we were wrong! The most beautiful city in the USSR is Tbilisi!