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Compensation for the "Soviet occupation"? Not before returning Vilnius and Klaipeda to their owners.

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The fuss that has been going on for two decades with the attempts of the Baltic states to obtain compensation from Russia for “Soviet occupation” eventually resulted in a “memorandum of cooperation”, signed in Riga on November 9 by the Ministers of Justice of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.




During the years of independence of these former Soviet republics, the servants of the Baltic Themis have become adept in presenting ridiculous demands to Russia. Although in the 1940 year, all three republics became part of the USSR as a result of the elections, this fact is opposed to political doctrine, according to which the elections of 1940 of the year are regarded as held “with a pistol at their heads”, and the period from 1940 to 1991 was as an occupation by the USSR. “... It is the legal continuity of the existence of the Baltic countries that makes such a demand possible. According to international law, in the event of occupation, both compensation for material damage and an apology in the form of satisfaction can be claimed, ”said the participants of the Riga meeting.

Recall that the “Memorandum of Cooperation” did not appear from scratch. In Latvia, a commission that measures “damage” has been working for many years. So far we have agreed on the amount of 300 billion euros, but the figure is not final, they are trying to increase it all the time. Similar calculations are also made by Lithuania, where so far 830 billion dollars have been counted somewhere.

Estonia behaves a little more restrained. Understanding that instead of money, they can only be offered “ears from a dead donkey” (as Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government Dmitry Rogozin responded to the absurd claims of the Baltic ministers), Estonian politicians are ready to be satisfied with apologies from Moscow. And Estonian Prime Minister Taavi Rõivas criticized the ministers of justice for pointless fuss. According to him, he does not understand what his country can really get from the above-mentioned memorandum.

Nevertheless, the direction of collective paranoia is determined - to demand penalties from Russia. True, these fundraisers admit that they have difficulties with the method of calculating the amount they would like to receive. The ministers agreed that their first practical step should be the unification of “damage” assessment methodologies. Then they are going to jointly formulate a claim for compensation for “damage” in accordance with international law and to prepare legal steps for its presentation. Estonian Minister of Justice U. Reinsalu says that in addition to the demands of the states, there are possible collective demands of individuals for Russia as a “successor to the occupying state” and “for enterprises that used slave labor”.

It would seem that the idea is so absurd that it is enough to make fun of it, as D. Rogozin did, and that’s all. However, let's not hurry. Fundraisers from the Baltics are not simpletons, they act like in the old joke: even if there are spoons, the sediment will still remain. The lawsuits launched against Russia will, as potential claimants hope, to drag the doctrine of “Soviet occupation” into international law. Having done this, the ethnocratic regimes that exist in the Baltic States, expect to solve a number of urgent problems for them.

First off historical responsibility for cooperation with the Nazis during the Second World War and affirm the “right” to number collaborators as fighters for “national independence”. In this case, the authorities have their hands untied to destroy the monuments in honor of the Red Army, the prosecution, including criminal, of former Soviet soldiers, and the ban on Soviet symbols. And even, as the events of recent days show, to stop cultural contacts with Russia: I mean the sensational ban on concerts of the Academic Song and Dance Ensemble of the Russian Army named after A.V. Alexandrov in a number of cities in Lithuania and Latvia under the pretext that these concerts would become “one of the well-paid instruments of Moscow”, striving to “split the Lithuanian society” (this is the opinion expressed by the Minister of Culture of Lithuania Sharunas Birutis).

The “Soviet occupation” doctrine is also a prerequisite for the preservation of the disgraceful institution of mass statelessness in Latvia and the institution of stateless persons in Estonia (the official Estonian name is “persons with undetermined citizenship”). Here the local Russians are called invaders or descendants of the invaders. The legal basis for such discrimination was the acts adopted by the authorities of Latvia and Estonia at the beginning of 1990, according to which the citizenship of these countries was recognized only for those residents who could prove the residence of their ancestors in these territories until 1940.

“If we abandon the concept of occupation, then we put our policy on citizenship, on non-citizens and their rights and other key issues at risk. It is clear that we cannot go to such a step ”- these words, frank to cynicism, sounded in 2005, belong to the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Seimas of Latvia, Vaira Paegle. Over the years since 10, the situation has only worsened: the number of “blacks” (as in the local slang is meant non-citizens, mostly Russians) in Latvia today is about 300 thousand people. In other words, about 15% of the country's population are completely excluded from participation in political life: they do not take part in parliamentary elections and are subject to more than 80 other restrictions on political, economic and social rights. In Estonia, the same powerless "seropassinators" - about 90 thousands. On them as "invaders" and ethnocratic regimes recoup.

So, in the Baltic States are ready to take decisive steps to completely get rid of the legacy of the "Soviet occupation". However, we recall, gentlemen, that there is a double-edged sword. We are talking about territorial acquisitions that you received thanks to the very "occupation regime."

Recall the fate of Klaipeda, I mean the German Memel. In 1923, he was transferred to the League of Nations of Lithuania and it was then that he received the current name. 22 March 1939. Germany sent its troops here. The fascist occupation of the whole of Lithuania was inevitable if the Soviet Union, while concluding a non-aggression treaty with Germany, did not insist on the inclusion of the Baltic states in the zone of its geopolitical interests. And the fact that now Klaipeda is a Lithuanian city is a merit of the Soviet Union.

And what about Vilnius, which became a Polish city of Lithuania in October 1939? And he became such precisely because of the military-political efforts of the USSR, specifically the campaign of the Red Army in the eastern regions of Poland defeated by the Wehrmacht. If Berlin reminds about Memel, and Warsaw about Vilna, who then will be considered the aggressor? There is no Soviet in the past. So, “compensations” on the part of Russia, gentlemen, you should wait at least not earlier than you abandon the fruits of “Stalinist expansionism” that you like.

And the last reminder for those who like to cut down money in an easy way, speculating on ranting about the "occupation". 30 June 2015 The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia announced the start of a verification of the legality of the decision to recognize the independence of the Baltic republics at the beginning of the 1990-s on the grounds that this decision was “made unconstitutional”. Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite and the country's foreign minister Linas Linkiavicius were quick to call the work of the Russian prosecutor’s office a provocation. That they are in vain. The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia simply returns the situation to the legal field, where all the argument that the arrival of the Red Army in 1940 and then in 1944 brought the Baltic States not liberation, but “occupation”, becomes not only ridiculous, but legally insignificant.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 10 November 2015 05: 33
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    Unfortunately, the authorities of Russia in response to the absurd claims of our Baltic neighbors often prefer to remain silent.
    They say that it’s embarrassing to squabble with neighbors. Yes, it is not necessary to enter into a verbal skirmish, but it is necessary to give a reasoned answer at the proper level.

    Brief emotional responses or simply silence are often perceived by our opponents as a confession of Russian guilt. As a result, the number of Russophobes is increasing, especially among foreign youth. But many of them, with proper reasoned answers, could become friends of Russia.

    This is clearly demonstrated by President V. Putin, giving at his press conferences clear answers to many topical issues. But the president, by virtue of his employment, cannot neutralize all the provocative statements that Russia is constantly “shelling” in the course of the information war being waged against it. This is the business of the ministries and departments of the Russian Federation, which should deal with this topic in more detail.


    http://finobzor.ru/show-356-na-chuzhoy-karavay.html


    Our Foreign Ministry works poorly in terms of propaganda.

    Recently, in the West, they are still trying to neutralize our media working there through various frauds ...
    One must be prepared for this ... the struggle on this front is becoming more sophisticated and more inventive.
    1. makst83
      makst83 10 November 2015 05: 37
      18
      not the caliber to pay attention to the screech of small shushury! hi
      And if in the case, then let them give us, as the legal successors of the USSR, ALL pipes, wires, fittings, cement, iron, brick, and they will break down the ports! laughing
      P.S. karoch, as one man said - from a dead donkey their ears! soldier
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 10 November 2015 05: 46
        10
        And if the case, then let them give us, as the legal successors of the USSR, ALL pipes, wires, fittings, cement, iron, brick, and they will dig down the ports! laughing


        Of course, the Baltic states do not differ in common sense ... for RUSSIA may file a counterclaim ...

        But it’s much more complicated considering that RUSSIA agreed that international laws prevail over domestic ones, we get big problems for ourselves ...

        the recent Yukos story when a western court sentenced our country to pay $ 50 billion to their scammers shows what kind of situation we are in.
        Therefore, you need to start with the constitution of RUSSIA where black and white should be written ..

        Domestic laws and criminal administrative law of our country must be higher than foreign laws... if this is not the case, we will inevitably slide into the fact that the Americans will begin to dictate their laws to us ... attempts have already been made ...

        but PUTIN rebuffed them.
        1. SibSlavRus
          SibSlavRus 10 November 2015 07: 10
          +3
          Even the Attorney General recently spoke about this. And this is not even a momentous event, but a reaction to the absurdity of the situation, however.
          But, everything remains at the level of just chatter. It’s necessary to work! And the State Dura and the SovFed are "not a place for discussions."
          But the Constitution will also have to be changed, and who will call the referendum?
          1. BMW
            BMW 10 November 2015 07: 18
            +4
            Quote: SibSlavRus
            But the Constitution will also have to be changed, and who will call the referendum?

            Something I did not see that the latest changes were adopted in a referendum. There is a loophole in the constitution; it can be dragged through the State Duma where there is a necessary majority for the party in power. yes
      2. LeftPers
        LeftPers 10 November 2015 07: 02
        +3
        ".... wrong caliber ...."
        Oh, not the same, definitely not the same, but there are other "Calibers"
        1. cuzmin.mihail2013
          cuzmin.mihail2013 10 November 2015 11: 29
          +2
          Why translate "Caliber" into a trifle. It is enough for these hooligans and NURS.
      3. SibSlavRus
        SibSlavRus 10 November 2015 07: 03
        12
        And also let all the revenues from the beginning of 1991, received from the Soviet industrial infrastructure, be returned. But if the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation decides to recognize the illegality, then for the unpaid taxes alone, the entire Baltic region will go to us as compensation and will become regional regions at most. Then it will be possible to talk to these "prostitutes" in detail.
        PS It’s a pity that in 1721 Peter, having bought the serf-owners of the gates, did not completely and completely resettle them into another ethnic environment, and did not fill the territory with the Russian population. Well, how many problems we managed to avoid from the time of the Second World War to the present moment.

        Half of Europe and even half of the world (including even the states, albeit indirectly) owe us their statehood and even existence!
        I do not understand how many more of these (many swear words here) can be endured?
        It is probably worth lowering these pseudo-states to the level of regional centers of the imperial suburbs.
      4. 34 region
        34 region 10 November 2015 07: 25
        +4
        It is still not clear with the Bialowieza Agreement. Suddenly he is recognized illegal? Then the USSR is alive!
        1. SibSlavRus
          SibSlavRus 10 November 2015 08: 21
          +8
          If so, then the local national elites and pseudo-elites simply outweigh the whole servant.
          We nationalize the public good.
          We will return the 1977 Constitution, where all social guidelines and norms are clearly visible. Obligations and rights of a creator citizen.
          We will master the northern territories with the help of venal bureaucrats and insolent businessmen and bankers, a liberoid party.
          The concept of "social justice" will become the norm.
          The values ​​of a socialist state will become the norm.
          Society will begin to cleanse itself of national genetic malformation by the death penalty and deprivation of citizenship.
          Science, education ...
          Further everywhere.

          Oh, dreams, dreams ... laughing
          Well, how many capitalists will have to format? Or how in 1991-93 they simply change their identities and speeches, Judas? am
        2. Aposlya
          Aposlya 10 November 2015 08: 45
          +1
          And how do you imagine this? You can admit anything, an example of Ukraine as usual, but what's the point? So if you develop the topic, then everything that the authorities have done in the Russian Federation since the 90s will be just as illegitimate ... Then this will begin!
      5. Imperialkolorad
        Imperialkolorad 10 November 2015 08: 04
        +2
        Quote: makst83
        not the caliber to pay attention to the screech of small shushury!

        The same "Caliber" will fly to them.
      6. Belgorod
        Belgorod 10 November 2015 10: 51
        +2
        And if in the case, then let them give us, as the legal successors of the USSR, ALL pipes, wires, fittings, cement, iron, brick, and they will break down the ports
        What for?
        There is a law on restitution. Let them return the factories, factories that the USSR built with the money of the RSFSR, as well as residential buildings. And let them answer where did they share the equipment from the VEF, RAF.
        Also, the difference (between the commercial value and the price at which they were delivered) for gas and fuels and lubricants was patched.
        It is also necessary to recognize the Baltic countries as allies of Hitler, with the subsequent payment of indemnities and compensations
      7. gladcu2
        gladcu2 10 November 2015 17: 39
        +1
        makst83

        I will supplement you. But with a good amount of reasoning.

        Thanks to the author. Since the article is not written in the mainstream "everyone is offending us again."

        Now the reasoning.

        Has anyone read the Jewish catechism? I do not pose the issue of simitism and anti-Semitism. I just turn to the source of information.

        These catechisms describe a system of behavior that destroys the generally accepted rules of relationships in society. Which often provides significant benefits.
        Let me remind you, morality is not only kill, do not kill, force, do not force. This is still the basis of mutual understanding. To resolve the situation when two interlocutors speaking the same language cease to understand each other.


        So, such bursts of information war absolutely exactly correspond to what is written in these catechisms.

        And I will add.

        The case with politics in sports is a sequence of these, well, in general, from this book of wisdom. And please note: the "book of wisdom" focuses on the real value of knowledge. Having read it once, you will gain additional knowledge of the structure of the world.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 05: 51
      +8
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Our Foreign Ministry works poorly in terms of propaganda.

      I have long said that in the information and diplomatic war you need to behave in the same way as in a normal one. Do not call back punches, but respond to a knockout blow. We were taught in the army that the blow should be crushing, and the battle is fleeting. This much later in the movie I saw Van Dam fighting for 10 minutes.

      Do we have creative people in the Foreign Ministry or not? You need to come up with such an "adequate response to inappropriate actions" (for centuries, GDP said!)so that I wouldn’t remember about the claims, but rather think about how to cover my own ass.

      I don't remember why, but America kicked up something else under George W. Bush. So then ours did not hesitate for the only time to do what America does as easily as breathes - to mix politics and economics. Banned the import of "Bush legs". Not even banned, but threatened. And - oh, miracle! - America is right there in the stall! And she herself forgot what she kicked!

      So here you need to think creatively and deal one good blow.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 10 November 2015 06: 39
        +5
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        So here you need to think creatively and deal one good blow.

        Quote: makst83
        And if the case, then let them give us, as the legal successors of the USSR, ALL pipes, wires, fittings, cement, iron, brick, and they will dig down the ports! laughing

        Let them return all the money that Peter-1 Sweden paid for these lands. This is a commercial transaction and does not fall under international border laws, then you can calculate the money for the Ignalina nuclear power plant, plants built by the USSR which were subordinated not to the Councils of Ministers of these republics, but to the Council of Ministers The USSR. By law, this is not the property of the republics, but the property of Russia as the heir to the USSR. Well, the comments stated correctly: it is time for the economic and legal departments of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to begin to draw up financial requirements for these republics and to demand the return of the lands that Stalin gave them, in addition to Vilnius and Klaipeda.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 10 November 2015 10: 36
          +4
          Quote: Amurets
          Let them return all the money that Peter-1 of Sweden paid for these lands

          I don’t understand why no one recalls the external debt of the USSR, which, after its collapse, was paid by Russia for all 15 republics? Why not remember the Balts that we paid for them, too, and therefore, now we should pay the debt.
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 10 November 2015 13: 31
          0
          Moreover, to demand a return in a specific and short time.
        3. gladcu2
          gladcu2 10 November 2015 18: 09
          0
          Amurets

          The dispute is absolutely subjectless.

          To start a dispute and build a chain of reasoning and evidence, you need to choose a starting point.

          Changing this point, this or that side will instantly destroy the entire system of reasoning.

          All this is nonsense comparable to a loud blowing your nose, coughing, shuffling legs, croaking erysipelas while he is driving away and giving a report.
      2. BMW
        BMW 10 November 2015 06: 41
        +6
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        So here you need to think creatively and deal one good blow.

        From this "creativity" at the exit, neither cold nor hot. One continuous bleating.
        Mouth up once and for all. For this, practically nothing is needed, only the will of the government and the president (which is not). It is necessary to pay for the work of ten people who are able to work with archives and know the costing within six months, plus a competent lawyer.
        Is it difficult to raise all the estimates for welfare from 1940 to 1990, transfer to modern money, add up and submit them to the international court. I assure you that the amount will be hundreds, if not thousands of times more than they can think of. And let this lawyer deal with this issue in court for at least 10, at least 20 years.
        Insolence and surprise guarantee success in any case, if not money, then shut up your mouth once and for all. hi
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 06: 51
          +8
          Quote: bmw
          Is it difficult to raise all the estimates for welfare from 1940 to 1990, transfer to modern money, add up and submit them to the international court.

          This is what I call "creative". Not in the forehead - "I can't afford it" and I won't give money, but a counterclaim, recognition of the illegality of sovereignty. "Presents" to count the territorial ... Roll out so many that in the Baltics they do not know such figures. Moreover, so that there is nowhere to turn. I think we have more than lawyers of well-known nationality, so let them show themselves - not all panties are to be divided according to the stars and the bedside tables are cut with a hacksaw. Let them work for the country.

          This one is creative ... laughing

          By the way, I think you can work with Yukos just as "creatively" if you remember where our entire oligarchy came from. There is not a skeleton in everyone's closet - a cemetery. And there are no exceptions. It was such a time ... How can a structure, illegally founded by crime, demand 50 billion? Ay, Rezniki-Padvy-Kuchereny-Barshchevsky! Show yourself, serve the Motherland ...
          1. BMW
            BMW 10 November 2015 07: 09
            +5
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            "Gifts" are territorial.

            I forgot about them. It turns out we bought the territories before the war.
            Quote: MolGro
            Return everything like that !!
            Interestingly someone can share the same cards on other pro balts

            Provided a card MolGro below in the comments. hi
    3. Finches
      Finches 10 November 2015 06: 03
      +7
      Can they be connected back so that they don’t suffer ......? laughing
      1. BMW
        BMW 10 November 2015 06: 45
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        Can they be connected back so that they don’t suffer ......?

        But if the invoice cannot be paid, then land can be taken as compensation. Everything is legal. wink
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 07: 02
          +4
          Quote: bmw
          But if the invoice cannot be paid, then land can be taken as compensation.

          Will not be enough. Their land is too cheap. In the strategic plan, we manage without them, and in the economic plan, so the Baltic is ours, and what is their soil good for? Plant a stunted potato? No, we don’t need Chukhland ... negative
          1. BMW
            BMW 10 November 2015 07: 26
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Will not be enough. Their land is too cheap

            Where is your imperial thinking? Then a week or two ago Putin was invited to emperor to crown. fool And the empire must collect the land. You're not right.
            And to compensate for the low price of their land, Aborigines evicted on Mars, let them master. They will be the first space refugees, let them be proud. hi
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 07: 57
              +1
              Quote: bmw
              And to compensate for the low price of their land, Aborigines evicted on Mars, let them master.

              And send on fishing canoes of the sample of 1915/1935 ... Let them travel to the stars ...
          2. EvgNik
            EvgNik 10 November 2015 07: 36
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            No, we don’t need Chukhland ...

            It is not needed, if only because we will have to take the descendants of the "forest brothers" along with the land. That's who we don't need anymore.
            1. BMW
              BMW 10 November 2015 08: 39
              +1
              Quote: EvgNik
              It is not needed, if only because we will have to take the descendants of the "forest brothers" along with the land. That's who we don't need anymore.

              The United States proposes that territories with a low population density should be recognized as no-man's, so we will recognize Alaska as no-man's. And all the "descendants" will be departed there.
          3. Amurets
            Amurets 10 November 2015 09: 22
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A

            Will not be enough. Their land is too cheap. In the strategic plan, we manage without them, and in the economic plan, so the Baltic is ours, and what is their soil good for? Plant a stunted potato? No, we don’t need Chukhland ... negative

            You're not right! PETR-1 paid for these lands with Silver from Sweden, but he knew how to count money. And according to the Restitution Law, the Baltic states, as EU members, must return the property of others to their old owners. Here is the work of the Foreign Ministry lawyers.
    4. Altona
      Altona 10 November 2015 06: 25
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Our Foreign Ministry works poorly in terms of propaganda.

      ----------------------
      The Foreign Ministry should not engage in propaganda. The Foreign Ministry must give a clear and well-reasoned answer and present our position. Unfortunately, even Putin himself suffers from the "Katyn disease", is worn with stupid memorials and unnecessary confessions ...
      PS Mass media should be engaged in propaganda ...
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 10 November 2015 06: 33
        0
        Quote: Altona
        set our position

        And some people need to INSERT our position. laughing
      2. venaya
        venaya 10 November 2015 06: 50
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        PS Mass media should be engaged in propaganda ...

        And they do, only in which direction they blow. Yesterday I again saw Povzner's TV show. What, with such media, is there really any chance for us to shine? There is no end to the work, there is no time to dampen, and how and how to act is not yet clear. We hope for the best, and rely primarily on ourselves, on each of us, without exception.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 10 November 2015 07: 44
          +1
          Quote: venaya
          What, with such media, is there really any chance for us to shine?

          Our media were bought up by privatization after the dismemberment of the USSR and the pegging of the ruble to the dollar, becoming not ours or not entirely ours. Forgot Gusinsky, for example? Do you know "Echo of Moscow"?
          1. venaya
            venaya 10 November 2015 08: 07
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Our media were bought up for privatization after the dismemberment of the USSR ...

            This is clear. I myself am raising this question everywhere, what to do with these choices in the media, how to stop them in their dirty business. For posts with these questions, I think I'm the first here. No one gives answers, everyone hopes for an uncle.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 10 November 2015 08: 41
              -1
              Quote: venaya
              No one gives answers, everyone hopes for an uncle.

              Conclusion from offshore, at least in Russian jurisdiction, but rather nationalize.

              I have said more than once.
              Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
              Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/
    5. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 10 November 2015 08: 04
      +3
      Historical background in the topic:
      How many beeches N in the word Tallinn?
      The answer is not correctly spelled Revel.
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 10 November 2015 11: 12
      0
      Come on, their nafig ... "Poor Chukhontsy" is one word. They will not judge anything. So, entertainment for a dull internal political life ... there is nothing else.
    7. marlin1203
      marlin1203 10 November 2015 11: 12
      0
      Come on, their nafig ... "Poor Chukhontsy" is one word. They will not judge anything. So, entertainment for a dull domestic political life ... there is nothing else.
  2. svp67
    svp67 10 November 2015 05: 34
    +3
    If the situation in Ukraine does not change, then she too may soon join this "trinity".
    It would be interesting to know their methods of counting, and most importantly the initial data. Interestingly, they are the industry that was created during the time of the USSR on their territory and successfully they themselves, during the time of independence collapsed, where were they attributed to "losses" or "profits"?
    Yes and ...
    LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky put the Lithuanian political elite on the ears with his remark that "if you already live by the 1939 Constitution, then live by it in everything." Therefore, return Vilnius and Klaipeda, which were not part of Lithuania in 1939. The reaction was lightning fast: the Russian Federation was accused of encroaching on the territorial integrity of Lithuania.
    And if you really go this way, then in 1939 Vilnius belonged to Poland, and Klaipeda to Germany, but after WWII Klaipeda was given to the USSR. Interestingly, if you calculate the loss from the transfer of only one Klaipeda, then what amount can be presented?
    1. Altona
      Altona 10 November 2015 06: 27
      0
      Quote: svp67
      If the situation in Ukraine does not change, then she too may soon join this "trinity".

      --------------------
      To the size of Kiev and Chernigov it will be narrowed and will be equal in scale to the same Estonia ...
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 10 November 2015 07: 43
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      If the situation in Ukraine does not change, then she too may soon join this "trinity".

      Already joined. Yatsenyuk constantly demands money from Russia for allegedly debts. Sometimes you listen to it and understand - it is Ukraine that supplies gas, electricity to Russia, and Russia does not pay them for it. And we eat Ukrainian fat, eat them, you know.
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  4. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 10 November 2015 05: 38
    +7
    Something Rogozin promised them a lot what Don't give a damn scattered ears from our donkeys am wassat
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 10 November 2015 06: 01
      +6
      Recently they wrote that the Balts drink too much ... then it’s clear drinks
      1. BMW
        BMW 10 November 2015 06: 53
        +1
        Quote: noWAR
        Recently they wrote that the Balts drink too much ... then it’s clear


        It turns out in your opinion that the president and the government should be drunk to the point of "honesty" and everything will be fine? Apparently the dose was not calculated with EBN? belay
        1. noWAR
          noWAR 10 November 2015 07: 23
          +1
          At least to be honest to begin with, and there ???
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 November 2015 06: 02
      +1
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Something Rogozin promised them a lot. Don't hell scatter ears from our donkeys

      So he only to look and smell. Not for good to give .... laughing
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 10 November 2015 06: 51
        -1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        So he only to look and smell. Not to give away forever .... laughing

        Well, why do you need dead donkey ears?
  5. leo3972
    leo3972 10 November 2015 05: 40
    +1
    If you always pay attention to stupid remarks, then I'm sorry there will not be enough time to answer serious ones.
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  7. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 10 November 2015 05: 42
    +4
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Something Rogozin promised them a lot what Don't give a damn scattered ears from our donkeys am wassat

    Indeed, why do we need so many dead, deaf donkeys? Of these, you can’t even make sausage ... I offer them to cut herring's fur laughing
    Well, or let yourself, they’ll cut the sprat ... tongue
    1. miv110
      miv110 10 November 2015 05: 57
      +1
      Or, like in all of us favorite movie "Vabank" - an ear from a herring. I think this is more understandable for them.
    2. meriem1
      meriem1 10 November 2015 06: 04
      0
      Donkeys they need. Dead donkeys will carry hypothetical money. and LET ASK, ALL EQUAL SEND.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 November 2015 05: 51
    +1
    Very Baltic mongrels want to find their "golden train", like the Poles. True, neither the train nor the gold has yet been found, but already "to the zloty" they calculated how much there will be for each Pole. So the Balts dripped saliva. Now a whole tank battalion of mattresses will protect them, and a whole squadron of attack aircraft ... and their mighty and formidable fleet, together with the NATO fleets, has already caught all Russian submarines in the entire Baltic.
    I don’t even want to comment on this next provocation.
  9. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 10 November 2015 05: 53
    +1
    If these unfinished people want some money, then why not demand money from them in accordance with the history of their joining the Russian Empire? Money for their free treatment? Teaching? In general, for free birth during the "occupation" of each individual - for free obstetrics and preschool institutions.
  10. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 10 November 2015 06: 01
    +3
    Why is the Russian city of Yuryev called Tartu? Occupants, return our lands !!!
  11. Military Builder
    Military Builder 10 November 2015 06: 02
    +2
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Don't give a damn scattered ears from our donkeys


    Well, yes, if it's so simple, to everyone who wants to receive "compensation" from Russia, to distribute the ears of dead donkeys, this poor animal will fall into the "Red Book" as an endangered species
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 10 November 2015 06: 10
      +2
      Quote: War Builder
      if it's so simple, everyone who wants to get "compensation" from Russia, give out the ears of dead donkeys,

      May send them a picture of Obama what He is definitely a donkey but really alive ... for now ...
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    1. perm23
      perm23 10 November 2015 06: 21
      +1
      Most likely a prostitute who has already retired and no one needs. Under the USSR, they gave her money, taught, fed, and then a new owner - and he has everything to work strictly as you want, however, the market. So it works with language and verbal diarrhea.
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      2. DMoroz
        DMoroz 10 November 2015 10: 40
        0
        "We, one might say, found him in the garbage. We washed him, sheltered him, and he draws us figs ...". Buttermilk is always relevant laughing
  13. SAM 5
    SAM 5 10 November 2015 06: 03
    0
    the ethnocratic regimes that exist in the Baltic states expect to solve a number of problems that are relevant to them

    The scoundrel is all to face.
  14. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 10 November 2015 06: 05
    +1
    Unfortunately you can’t block the pipe. It will be bad for ours too. But what should I do?
  15. MolGro
    MolGro 10 November 2015 06: 10
    +3
    Return everything like that !!
    Interestingly, someone can share the same cards on other pro balts!
    1. perm23
      perm23 10 November 2015 06: 24
      +2
      DO NOT do good, do not get evil. And we cannot understand this in any way in relations with other states.
  16. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 10 November 2015 06: 13
    13
    I noticed an interesting offer on the network.
  17. SAM 5
    SAM 5 10 November 2015 06: 22
    +3
    No comments.
  18. Barakuda
    Barakuda 10 November 2015 06: 25
    +4
    Can you imagine how much India, for example, can demand from Britain? winked But normal people live there, not like these paranoiacs.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 November 2015 06: 32
    +3
    "Damage" for the "Soviet occupation"

    Of course it's funny to listen and read about the attempts of the Balts to pass off wishful thinking. But in no case should we be silent about such statements. Otherwise, fans of fascism will completely lose their "scent".
  20. Hammer
    Hammer 10 November 2015 06: 44
    +1
    As soon as Russia hints that you should get to treat "non-citizens", the rhetoric will immediately change
  21. pvv113
    pvv113 10 November 2015 06: 57
    0
    fuss with the attempts of the Baltic states to obtain from Russia compensation for "damage" for the "Soviet occupation"

    Or maybe they want to buy themselves a little mind, but no money?
    1. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 10 November 2015 07: 33
      +1
      Print the millionaire and pass them to them, please.
  22. Senior manager
    Senior manager 10 November 2015 07: 03
    +1
    Statistics know a lot. There is a lot of data on the state of the economies of these misunderstanding entities since the beginning of the 20th century. Just deal with them professionally and invoice. Serious people will not do this - once, but for retirees this occupation is quite suitable to determine at least the order of numbers. I am very sorry that I am not an economist.
  23. nivander
    nivander 10 November 2015 07: 18
    0
    "sanitary cardon" has always been and will be only a change in global politics
  24. Support
    Support 10 November 2015 07: 20
    0
    The more problems there are in the sexual-reproductive system, the more hypersensitive things can be seen and heard. Maybe an enema should be prescribed daily ........
  25. Stinger
    Stinger 10 November 2015 07: 22
    +1
    The EU does not want to feed, so they decided that you can try your luck. You can help. Stop our traffic through these beggars. In the EU you will find your happiness. Labor ennobles man, and beggars never.
  26. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 10 November 2015 07: 44
    0
    Will the Baltic obscurantism end in an interesting way? Or maybe they, like Ukraine, don't know where to profit from poverty anymore? In return, you can arrange their life even more "easy", simply by legal means, for example, to reconsider trade and economic relations. And see what happens .. and you get a very definite situation.
  27. drop
    drop 10 November 2015 08: 08
    +1
    Dear Yuri Rubtsov, it would be advisable to mention in your article how this territory appeared in Russia in general. For what means our Emperor bought it from the Swedes. And all this must be reflected in history textbooks in schools. I have the honor.
  28. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 November 2015 08: 09
    0
    We often scold our government, maybe our government can be used for its intended purpose. Let them bring a counterclaim to the Baltic states, such as a divorce was illegal and it is time to return all the acquired joint property, we can take it with money. Money is rubles.
  29. Bosk
    Bosk 10 November 2015 08: 15
    0
    The more absurd the idea is, there are more people who hear it and naturally react to it, but secondly, this news has its own plus, judging by the fact that they again raised the topic of "compensation" ... this means that one distant country has no fresh ideas at all on the subject of how to hurt Russia!
  30. Watchdog
    Watchdog 10 November 2015 08: 30
    0
    Can it really be true that the lost territories — the Courland, Livonia and Estland provinces of the Ostsee region — can be returned to Russia? wassat
  31. Mikhalych
    Mikhalych 10 November 2015 08: 30
    +1
    Let us recall the fate of Klaipeda, that is, German Memel. In 1923, it was transferred to the League of Nations of Lithuania and it was then that it received its current name. March 22, 1939 Germany introduced its troops here.
    But what about Vilnius, which became Polish from Lithuanian in October 1939?

    Memel is taken on a Russian bayonet. So do not give the Germans. Vilnius - Vilnius - Vilna is not a Polish city. They captured him in 1923.
    Everything that Russia gave the Baltic states to pick up and deduct with interest 7 million Petrovsky efimok paid to them defeated Karla for the Baltic states. 7 lemons at the current rate is just 300 lard. good
    And the dates became rich after 1957, when Nikita began to cut down the woods for them in the cheap and ordered ships. Before that, there were beggars, they were draping in America.
    I think that now nobody will give the forest for the Baltic states by deshovka and order ships. wink
  32. Million
    Million 10 November 2015 08: 31
    0
    There has been too much noise recently from the dwarf Baltic countries. The FSB apparently does not work out in this direction.
  33. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 10 November 2015 09: 51
    0
    If we lose the court, you can always capture them, but if you are shy, it will be cheaper, and NATO will not intervene with them, and so have problems above the roof. It will turn out both with Poland and Great Britain in the year 39, you are our ally, but we do not really want to fight.
  34. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 10 November 2015 09: 52
    0
    preservation of the shameful institution of mass statelessness
    I with two hands for accepting with us such an institution. In many BV countries, such an institute is successfully working, protecting the rights of the indigenous population.
    But in general, the article is interesting and relevant. hi
  35. AlexTires
    AlexTires 10 November 2015 09: 55
    0
    How could some from Russia even want to snatch! And when Russia, taken out of patience, having fended off attacks of greedy ghouls, will conquer part of their territory in fair battle, they begin to demand it back years later. And who will return to Russia its tortured and killed by ghouls population? Who will restore the destroyed houses and factories? The stupid people don’t understand that you don’t need to look in our wolf’s direction and come to us with a sword, then you don’t have to lose anything. Russia does not attack first. And you have to answer for your stupidity.
  36. mamont5
    mamont5 10 November 2015 10: 07
    0
    "Compensation for the" Soviet occupation "? Not before you return Vilnius and Klaipeda to their owners"

    As well as the money spent on the development of nowadays haunted industry.
  37. marinier
    marinier 10 November 2015 10: 14
    0
    Good time of the day, yep!
    Unconditionally, un-divided, inadequate behavior of the Baltic r-ik, angasized by certain circles, who are not interested in normalizing relations with RUSSIA.
    Of course, yes, sanctions will not give a long-term effect, isolation on the mazda-folk scene
    politics toze plucked!
    Well, 4 more yet kids osberny circles in the west, can come up with?
    Kone4no will set small mongrels (in Denmark the Baltic states)
  38. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 10 November 2015 10: 25
    0
    When all these nonsense from the dwarf disgusting under-states will get us through their vile provocations, we will present them with such an account that the indigenous balts for several centuries will pay us debts.

    Of course, we understand that the Americans order three sprats to yap at us in order to keep them in good shape. But common sense and a sense of fear should tell something to poor degenerates at least at the subconscious level!
    There are fewer of these unprecedentedly stupid little men on the planet than the population in the Leningrad Region! They apparently want our near-born descendants to say - and here some tribes of Baltic-Baltic states lived, only at the beginning of the 21st century everyone died by stupidity and from anger and bankruptcy. Nature clearly gets rid of garbage. That number of Russian people in our former territory is enough to put all the baits, in the case of kipish, with cancer and painfully spank.
    Although what to expect from territories where education is absent, as such in principle? Wild people - what to take from them!?!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 10 November 2015 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Volzhanin
      . Nature clearly gets rid of garbage.

      Hello land. hi God bless your words. And then the Anglo-Saxons divorced like cockroaches in the trash. laughing
  39. Aksakal_07
    Aksakal_07 10 November 2015 11: 25
    0
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    ... the struggle on this front is becoming more sophisticated and more inventive

    We will deal with the fabrications of the Baltic Natsiks without problems. But what about the position of the high-ranking part of the Russian "fifth column"? I remember how in the 90s Prime Minister Chernomyrdin personally took to France the first tranche of $ 300 million to repay the tsarist loans received from France before the First World War. Did the Entente countries pay us even a penny for the damage from the intervention of 1918-1921?
    I remember that even at the Genoa Conference of 1922 it was decided that the tsarist debts were approximately equal to the damage to Russia from the intervention and agreed on the "zero" option, that is, no one owes anyone. And the leaders of post-Soviet Russia ran ahead of the steam locomotive to repay debts to France. And this is in conditions that the population has lost hundreds of billions of dollars in savings.
  40. IAlex
    IAlex 10 November 2015 14: 15
    0
    And how much they want to return to us for the occupation. Well, there for the construction of factories, infrastructure, training and treatment, i.e. all that the oligarchs after the occupation were taken to their homeland in the EU?
  41. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 November 2015 18: 03
    0
    The borders of 1939 and the point.
  42. gammipapa
    gammipapa 10 November 2015 20: 06
    0
    Of course, for such money it will be much easier and cheaper to make a lunar landscape there. But this is not our method. Then why not play cards with suicides, especially since all the trump cards are in our hands. To compile lists and specifically export to Russia everything that was set up there, export to the root. Since we occupied them, then this is all ours by law.
    Although their ears from a dead donkey are just in time.

    The tale of the fisherman and the fish they need to send with pictures - let them study.