The new "help". NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko announced that foreign specialists had joined the creation of program strategic documents. This is a document that represents the concept of development of the Ukrainian armed forces for the period up to 2020. According to Mr. Muzhenko, the officials of the North Atlantic military bloc were actively involved in the preparation of this document.

Victor Muzhenko on Facebook writes:

When developing the Concept for the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine before 2020, we will actively use both our own and the best foreign experience.

This was discussed during the founding meeting with domestic experts, representatives of scientific institutions, public organizations and volunteers.

For the first time in stories Ukraine to the development of such an important document included foreign experts, in particular the office of external relations of NATO, after all, among the main directions of development of the national army is the introduction of relevant (NATO) standards.

It is reported that the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine agreed on a schedule for receiving advice on the formation of the concept of development of the army from NATO representatives. It is noted that Ukraine "may be in NATO in the 20-year perspective." As the modern Ukrainian “classic” says, to NATO, judging by the timing, “not only all” citizens of Ukraine will reach ...

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[viktorrymar]

Maybe someone heard that? : The infamous Ukrainian blogger Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment, Ukrainian media reported.

The blogger got scandalous after he posted a video message on the Network, in which he cynically rejoiced at the crash of the Russian liner, as a result of which 224 people died.

"I wanted to sing songs out of happiness," said the blogger, saying that he was extremely pleased with this news.



Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-11-04/smi-v-kieve-ubit-ukrainskiy-bloger-cinichno-vys

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[Now we are free]

It is noted that Ukraine “Could be in NATO in a 20-year perspective”.

B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?

[Vend]

How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already. Well, except for the stupid maidans.

[kepmor]

Yes, Muzhenko's glance (in the photo) speaks of the main thing - no "peremoga will not help anymore"!

[79807420129]

They will develop a plan to quickly carry away their legs, and some sort of a post at NATO headquarters, they will sell everything that is possible on the territory of 404, including honor and conscience.

[Altona]

Quote: 79807420129

They will develop a plan to quickly carry away their legs, and some sort of a post at NATO headquarters, they will sell everything that is possible on the territory of 404, including honor and conscience.

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Everything will be limited to the plan ... Where is the money, Zin? Why will the equipment be bought and serviced? Where is the ammunition for this technique? Will the army be like the Baltic, on equipment rented and decommissioned from NATO? Or maybe, in general, the US Marine regiment will also house "America with us"?

[Tatyana]

Quote from the article Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko:

For the first time in the history of Ukraine, the development of such an important document included foreign experts, in particular the NATO External Relations Office, because among the main directions of development of the domestic army is the implementation of the relevant (NATO) STANDARDS.

As well as foreign - not sovereign - Ukraine’s goals too!

[APASUS]

Quote: 79807420129

They will develop a plan to quickly carry away their legs, and some sort of a post at NATO headquarters, they will sell everything that is possible on the territory of 404, including honor and conscience.

The plan may remain a plan. Who will allocate money for this reform and development? Here, a default is planned for next month, and there are generally unclear prospects .........

[Vladimirets]

Quote: kepmor

"a change won't help anymore"

No matter how much you say too much, the zrad will not go anywhere.

[maxim1987]

Quote: Vladimirets

No matter how much you say too much, the zrad will not go anywhere.

tse nezalezhnost

[maxim1987]

Quote: Vladimirets

No matter how much you say too much, the zrad will not go anywhere.

tse nezalezhnost

[Oman 47]

But the STAR at Ilovaisky is almost wider than the shoulder strap, Pinochet, b. Kakhlyatsky ...

[iConst]

Quote: Wend

How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already.

- Judging by the reports, Kiev (my opinion) did not refuse a forceful decision to return Donbass.
Valtsman, the illegal president of Ukraine, is preparing two scenarios: the first is when the wheels of Minsk-2 will turn with a creak and the second when the provocation will be prepared to resume hostilities.

At the same time, I am sure that both Hollande and Merkel are not against the second option, but only "so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose," when they can say without losing face - we did everything, but Russia is so and so ... and in the text.

[I am Russian]

Quote: iConst

Quote: Wend

How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already.

- Judging by the reports, Kiev (my opinion) did not refuse a forceful decision to return Donbass.
Valtsman, the illegal president of Ukraine, is preparing two scenarios: the first is when the wheels of Minsk-2 will turn with a creak and the second when the provocation will be prepared to resume hostilities.

At the same time, I am sure that both Hollande and Merkel are not against the second option, but only "so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose," when they can say without losing face - we did everything, but Russia is so and so ... and in the text.

Duc Lavrov has already said that Minsk-2 will be continued in 2016.

[wow]

No, why don’t they? Jump, for example, painted fences again. What are you, boiling a robot, a plaque, a fly ...!

[Leviton]

Quote: Wend

How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already. Well, except for the stupid maidans.

Well, Maidan, too, with the filing and with the active support of Western specialists .....

[volot-voin]

Quote: Wend

How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already.

It's hard to be a traitor however. Muzhenko’s gaze is gloomy; you cannot escape fate.

[crocodile25]

Quote: Wend

How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already. Well, except for the stupid maidans.

Yes, and I remember the Maidan, they didn’t organize it, they sold the country for dough sprinkled with dill? !

[AlexTires]

For the fact that by 2020 year

“not all” citizens of Ukraine will reach ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

When developing the Concept for the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine before 2020, we will actively use both our own and the best foreign experience.

There is no longer the Ukrainian Army (and it wasn’t in principle) ... There remained gangs of killers of civilians ..

[Temples]

They themselves are not zapadlo?
What kind of warriors are these?
I can’t name them officers.
They are like dolls blinking.
A drop of dignity and would have sent to hell and the Americans and their "rulers".
You gave the oath to defend your homeland. So the time has come, and you were blown away ....

[kepmor]

About the "gang of murderers" is absolutely certain! I would like the Ukrainians to continue to "actively use their own" lethal "experience, especially in terms of" master brewing (for example, Ilovaisky or Debaltsevsky) "! Damn, great masters, however ... let them teach mattress makers!
Now compare the look of the GUY HERO and the freak general! There’s nothing more to talk about!

[Sober]

And the topic itself is boring, dreary, like the expression of this face in the photo.

[Good me]

The new "help". NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

So why did you get pissed off, Iris? Al "peremogi" are over?

[lelikas]

Quote: Good Me

So why did you get pissed off, Iris? Al "peremogi" are over?

Many stars on uniform, crush an unbroken soul, do not give normal work and interfere with overwork!
He just realized where he fit ....

[Good me]

Quote: lelikas

Many stars on uniform, crush an unbroken soul, do not give normal work and interfere with overwork!
He just realized where he fit ....

With stars on uniform, no question. Let changes to svidomye.

And at the expense of what I signed up for, it's a psychiatrist before it's too late. Then, from the tribunal, in the psychiatric hospital, it will not work out ...

[colonel manuch]

And the general along the way from a deep hangover?

[Oman 47]

Interview - on MONDAY, after YESTERDAY ???!

[Finches]

Just now I’ve taken a closer look, why did he have our stars on shoulder straps ??? Today, this is not a trend in (in) Ukraine. Only clover flowers, cannabis stalks or the notorious dill, which, if my memory remains unchanged, even found the Saxon Shakespeare (Hamlet, the Danish prince) symbolizes flattery, deceit and betrayal !?

[Finches]

How on a machine in a smartphone words are distorted and you don’t notice!
Minusit - Muzhenko?

[Ganssh]

1983 - graduated from the Leningrad Higher Combined Arms School (now the St. Petersburg Higher Combined Arms Command School)

disgrace to expel and erase
sorry I will say the army word - Man Interfering Society

[vovanpain]

Quote: Now we are free

B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?

Yes, nobody seems to know the answer to this very question. That's probably for it.

[Vladimyrych]

[demon1978]

Quote: Now we are free

At the same time, it is noted that Ukraine "may be in NATO in a 20-year perspective."

B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?

But will there be NATO, in this same 20 year term ??? !!! The fact that the Ruins in its present form will not be is 100 %%

[GRAY]

Quote: Now we are free

At the same time, it is noted that Ukraine "may be in NATO in a 20-year perspective."

B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?

This is when Ukraine, according to Sobakashvilli, reaches the level of development of the times of Yanukovych.
Glory to EuroGabon!

[veksha50]

Quote: GRAY

Glory to EuroGabon!

Glorious lad ... Is this a double of Gunpowder ???

[GRAY]

Quote: veksha50

Glorious lad ... Is this a double of Gunpowder ???

This is his mass-dimensional layout. I went to Europe.

[Comrade Bender]

Maidan stood for the right to promises "not only for everyone."

[Maxom75]

Permog will probably be like Katz? Katz always offered to give up.))) Https://youtu.be/N0r2nQdpM58?t=1

[GSH-18]

New "peremoga". NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

Seamlessly blending into zrada!

[proletarian]

Yak for sho, that for the new rope !!!

[DanSabaka]

I don’t know, is it true .... but ... the bitch is a bitch death ....

[Finches]

This Muzhenko clown, and also an officer of the Soviet Army! It has long been clear to everyone that only one country, the USSR and its successor Russia, has the best combat experience in modern history, after the grandiose scale of the Second World War and the "compulsion to peace" of the Kwantung Army .. .Everything else that was in the modern history of mankind is true, albeit bloody, but ordinary yard showdowns and nothing more! And in the West, the military budget is aimed at enriching a certain handful of people, and not at creating a real and efficient army, and Russia went along this path and only the memory of the War stopped the general collapse of the Armed Forces!
Once again I will express my opinion about Ukraine, playfully, with the dialogue of the heroes of modern comedy:
"-It is necessary to finish her (Ukraine)!
- We must seek consensus!
- Find consensus and kicking it, kicking it ....! "

I wonder how Muzhenko lives with bloody boys in his eyes ...?

[SibSlavRus]

Interestingly, in the continuation of the topic, will they switch to NATO standards (will they convince you to switch?)?
This will be exactly "both laughter and sin".
At the expense of the state budget, of course. American friends will issue loans for the purchase of second-hand equipment, weapons and equipment from, again, American friends. This will greatly help the American army get rid of outdated samples, + constantly sell ammunition, + constant payment of consultants and instructors of PMCs, + constant sale of consumables for equipment, etc. In general, as usual, they will make them dependent, like all NATO. "They'll be hooked on NATO," so to speak.
This is nothing personal, just a business.
Oh yes! Securing an American loan - the remnants of state property and land.
This is a business !!! And they added pseudo-money, and opened a second-hand second-hand, and the state assets took their hands in full profit, and they will have more interest from the loan.
How can you be such a sucker?
Or, do not care logic and common sense, the main thing is not like the Russians?
Georgians did not help.
The strength of Russian weapons and spirit is beyond competition! This is historically the case.
Be you even thrice NATO ...

[GRAY]

Quote: viktorrymar

Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment, Ukrainian media reported.

There was such infa last week - it turned out to be a fake. Although this is possible in principle, its address can easily be found on various resources.

[kepmor]

Justice has triumphed!

[corporal]

Quote: viktorrymar

The infamous Ukrainian blogger Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment,

Already refuted. It's a pity.

[roskot]

Dog canine death.

[veksha50]

Quote: viktorrymar

Maybe someone heard that? : The infamous Ukrainian blogger Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment, Ukrainian media reported

Outdated data ... He has almost never lived a day after his "speech", he rested in the Bose ...

PS Do not wish evil to your neighbor ...

[33 Watcher]

I heard. And for a long time, a couple of days after the crash and comments, respectively. It seems they killed in their own apartment, of. Authorities, do not comment.

[marlin1203]

Why are the eyes of the army general like a sad spaniel?

[SAG]

There is no such news on your link. minus

[avt]

"The house is gone!" But first, the steam heating will be turned off. They don’t know about it - they prudently banned Bulgakov Ruins in the territory and poke quietly past the toilet. In general, the news is good - considering how the US prepared the armies of Afghanistan and Iraq, one can imagine what will happen at the exit.

[Coconut Tima]

"implementation of the relevant (NATO) standards."
Purchase of junk unnecessary in NATO countries?

[veksha50]

Quote: Tim Coconuts

Purchase of junk unnecessary in NATO countries?

Vparivanie junk for loans issued ... Ukraine for thousands of years will not pay ...

[sannych]

The optimists, however, are hidden, right up to 2020 hoping to exist. The revolution of nonsense, apparently, is to attract foreigners in all areas of the state.

[Mama_Cholli]

Well Ukrainians are optimists, right up to 2020 make a guess ....

I hope the head of Gazprom has a different opinion.

[Amurets]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

Well Ukrainians are optimists, right up to 2020 make a guess ....

I hope the head of Gazprom has a different opinion.

Good until 2120 years do not plan

[AlexTires]

Very bad with people in Ukraine.
Either ministers are imported, then customs officers, now they have reached the specialists of the NATO liaison office.

[rf xnumx]

implementation of relevant (NATO) standards.

In whom to introduce there, it’s a ruin

[Wolverine]

When developing the Concept for the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until 2020

What the hell are up to 2020 years, optimists, you don’t know what will happen to them tomorrow, here are the sick ...

[Good me]

Quote: Wolverine

What the hell are up to 2020 years, optimists, you don’t know what will happen to them tomorrow, here are the sick ...

They, the Western curators, were promised that everything would be a "bundle" ... And Yukraina would become a single state, and the damned ones would be defeated in the battle in the Urals ...

[iliitchitch]

Yes, they just do not know how to steal, foreign countries will help them stir up the "concept". By December 19, they will finish composing, they will give a loan, and they will immediately take it away at the expense of paying for the development of a new "contraception" ... And although I overclocked it, really, these wretched people will not live up to the 17th, I think.

[v1tz]

Who would doubt why they needed the territory of Ukraine to implement the military concept of the United States ...

[alex-cn]

In vain you guys - the Europeans will make the same clumsy creature out of 404 armies as the European armies. Who will feel bad from this?

[tank64rus]

Well, how will it be necessary to kiss the boot of NATO at a meeting of military personnel. What a dirty trick this is. NATO is our enemy, has been and will be. Tales of peaceful appointment leave patients to ward number 6. Well, once 300 million. Allocated war in the Donbass will continue, and Mindogovory will be in the bin.

[Kibl]

Why are you killed, Vityok! Why are you sitting there at the General Staff? You haven’t needed anybody for a long time and all the squeals of Parasha that the dill army is in the top five of Europe’s strongest arimies went to manure !!!

[Stinger]

And the look of the maydanut general is unclear. They omitted foreign experts. For the first time. The main thing to get used to. Further it will be easier and the view will be clarified according to NATO standards. Take courage, Muzhenko.

[Corsair0304]

I can't understand one thing - why this "Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (it turns out that there is such a thing?) Viktor Muzhenko wears stars on his shoulder straps? This is the legacy of the USSR / Russia! Let them change for teeth there or dumplings or bottles with vodka (this insignia can only be worn by Parashenka)
A little story about the stars:
"On April 21, 1917, the Minister of War and Navy A. Guchkov places a five-pointed star on the rims of the sailors' caps - right above the anchor.
However, the "star of Mars" proved itself most vividly after another revolution - the Great October Revolution. No sooner had the young Soviet government began to form the Red Army, than there was an urgent need for new symbols. This was largely due to the fact that in the fire often dressed in clothes of the same cut and in battle it was not easy to distinguish strangers from their own.
So in the symbolism of the Land of Soviets the famous red five-pointed star first appears.
Officially, the symbol called "the star of Mars with a plow and a hammer" was approved by the order of L. Trotsky dated May 7, 1918. The following was also said there: "The Red Army badge is the property of persons serving in the Red Army. service in the Red Army, these signs are proposed to be removed immediately. For failure to comply with this order, the perpetrators will be brought to trial by a military tribunal. "

[Good me]

Quote: Corsair0304

So in the symbolism of the Land of Soviets the famous red five-pointed star first appears.

On the legendary Budenovka, a five-pointed red star, at the beginning with a PLOW and a HAMMER, and later with a SICKLE and a HAMMER, was placed in the center of a five-pointed star sewn in front of the visor with a diameter of the base circle 8,8 cm of cloth, the color of which depended on the type of troops (forces).

By order of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic No. 628 of 8 on April 1919, six cloth colors were established for the insignia of the branches of the armed forces (forces), which also relied on tight-fitting helmet buttons and a sewn-in star: for the infantry - raspberry, for cavalry - blue, for artillery - orange, for aviation - blue, for engineering troops - black, for border troops (which during this period were also part of the Red Army) - green. The diameter of the base circumference of the patch star has been increased to 10,5 cm.

[Normal ok]

I can't understand one thing - why this "Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (it turns out that there is such a thing?) Viktor Muzhenko wears stars on his shoulder straps? This is the legacy of the USSR / Russia!

To be precise, the five-pointed stars on epaulettes, Russia copied from France under Nicholas 1. And now stars are used in many armies of the world. For example, these are insignia of American generals.

[interceptor58]

And what, these unfinished stars on uniform have not yet been canceled?

[sannych]

Sometimes a comma, put in the right place, dramatically changes the meaning of the statement (or of the question).

[pts-m]

if they themselves can’t develop a concept, then there’s a kind of horseradish of wines there. Probably for ... decorating the place ... they could be found more photogenic.

[Caustic]

one thought warms my soul - Ukraine is doomed to die very dramatically. And millions of stupid ukrov are not yet aware of this.

[Caustic]

It is curious that the Ukrainian word "lads" came from the Polish "claps", that is, rural slaves. For many centuries, the lands of present-day Western Ukraine belonged to the Commonwealth. In Lviv and other cities lived Poles, Jews, Armenians. The place for Ukrainians was only a rural hut, only work in the farmyard and field.

[Russia]

NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

What can I say!
They "otmaidanili" their brains, think of strangers "mind" to get hold of. And these, other people's brains, only care about their own benefit. That's why they are "Aliens" (film). They will devour and not choke.

[shinobi]

Complete and finally defeated insanity in a single country. NATO is trying to learn from our experience, it itself is not able to quickly mobilize troops, but these are there too. The full fox is shorter.

[bmv04636]

I don’t understand why there are still stars and not daisies, so what is this really a diversion?

[afrikanez]

the development of such an important document included foreign experts, in particular the NATO External Relations Office,

Well, if that is so, then we can safely say that Ukraine went on hand! (NATO-28 has members)

[colonel manuch]

Muzhenko has already broken along the way, the view is not healthy. Looks like things are not just going bad, but absolutely ...., or maybe he just started to realize that he was sitting on that cart, but he was afraid to jump on the go.

[aibolit72]

The new electronic warfare has already entered the troops.

[veksha50]

"the concept of development of the armed forces of Ukraine for the period until 2020"...

And you believe that, stupid ...

[roskot]

As they say. With whom you lead, you will receive those standards. Do you need it?

[Neophyte]

It's time to smear your heels with lard and stop dreaming of a "great army"! This pseudo-state has NO future and it's time to recognize the ukrovoyaks!

[vobels]

[/ quote] Well, if so, then we can safely say that Ukraine went on hand! (NATO has 28 members) [/ Quote]
Yes, after 28 members do not give her a long time ...

[slaw14]

States have a training mania. Already taken for ...

[RUSOIVAN]

Barak Huseynovich or what?

[LukaSaraev]

Quote: veksha50

Ukraine for thousands of years will not pay ...

And who said. what are they going to pay? And is there already Ukraine? External management. There, business nuland rules everything.

[Zomanus]

Well, actually, if Ukraine seeks to become a member of NATO,
then this approach can be considered the most reasonable.
Since Ukraine now has practically no army,
then it’s worth building the NATO structure from scratch.
And these are weapons, training, communications and interaction with other NATO members.
It must be admitted that Ukraine, as a friendly state, we have lost forever.
And to treat it stands exclusively as a neutral-hostile (so far neutral) state.
Like how to Poland ...
And I think that soon the full-fledged construction of the demarcation line will begin on our side.
And this will certainly not be the disgrace that Yatsenyuk is building.

[_my opinion]

Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko announced that foreign experts have joined in the creation of program strategic documents.

... one illusion remained from the state ... APU is at war with its people ...
what kind of words I forgot - programmatic strategic documents ... right up to 2020 I waved ...
the ride continues ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Now Ukraine will be forced to sell Patriot air defense systems, old Abrams tanks, and F-16s.

[pvv113]

NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

A quick glance at the title - it seemed not "the concept of development of the Armed Forces", but "contraception for the development of the Armed Forces". For some reason I was not surprised

[atamankko]

A dying state cannot have a living Army.

[Vladimir 23rus]

foreign specialists, in particular external relations office NATO, after all, among the main directions of development of the domestic army are implementation of relevant (NATO) standards.

And what will they (the office of external relations) develop for them ??? What are these NATO standards? How to standardly bark at Russia or what?

[Oman 47]

EXTERNAL OFFICE OFFICE (in the Russian sense of this phrase) ...

[Baloo]

Durkain's NATO standard, it's cooler than the Dusoli circus. We will see. Who pays for the performance?

[Good cat]

Found something to brag about, dunce!

[Don Cesar]

face of an aging handover that has nothing to lose

[natakor1949]

“... judging by the timeframe, not only all the citizens of the outskirts will reach NATO ...” This phrase says it all.

[mamont5]

These "independent" are not hiding trying on the Western yoke around their necks, and they are proud of it.