New "Peremoga". The concept of development of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be prepared by NATO experts

Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko announced that foreign specialists had joined the creation of program strategic documents. This is a document that represents the concept of development of the Ukrainian armed forces for the period up to 2020. According to Mr. Muzhenko, the officials of the North Atlantic military bloc were actively involved in the preparation of this document.


Victor Muzhenko on Facebook writes:
When developing the Concept for the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine before 2020, we will actively use both our own and the best foreign experience.

This was discussed during the founding meeting with domestic experts, representatives of scientific institutions, public organizations and volunteers.

For the first time in stories Ukraine to the development of such an important document included foreign experts, in particular the office of external relations of NATO, after all, among the main directions of development of the national army is the introduction of relevant (NATO) standards.


New "Peremoga". The concept of development of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be prepared by NATO experts


It is reported that the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine agreed on a schedule for receiving advice on the formation of the concept of development of the army from NATO representatives. It is noted that Ukraine "may be in NATO in the 20-year perspective." As the modern Ukrainian “classic” says, to NATO, judging by the timing, “not only all” citizens of Ukraine will reach ...
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  1. viktorrymar 9 November 2015 13: 16 New
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    Maybe someone heard that? : The infamous Ukrainian blogger Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment, Ukrainian media reported.

    The blogger got scandalous after he posted a video message on the Network, in which he cynically rejoiced at the crash of the Russian liner, as a result of which 224 people died.

    “I wanted to sing songs with happiness,” said the blogger, saying that he was extremely pleased with this news.



    Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-11-04/smi-v-kieve-ubit-ukrainskiy-bloger-cinichno-vys

    meyavshiy-krushenie-321 © REN.TV
    1. Now we are free 9 November 2015 13: 18 New
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      It is noted that Ukraine “Could be in NATO in a 20-year perspective”.

      B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!? wassat
      1. Vend 9 November 2015 13: 21 New
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        How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already. Well, except for the stupid maidans.
        1. kepmor 9 November 2015 13: 45 New
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          Yes, Muzhenko’s look (in the photo) speaks about the main thing — not any “help will help anymore”!
          1. 79807420129 9 November 2015 14: 11 New
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            They will develop a plan to quickly carry away their legs, and some sort of a post at NATO headquarters, they will sell everything that is possible on the territory of 404, including honor and conscience.
            1. Altona 9 November 2015 15: 17 New
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              Quote: 79807420129
              They will develop a plan to quickly carry away their legs, and some sort of a post at NATO headquarters, they will sell everything that is possible on the territory of 404, including honor and conscience.

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              Everything will be limited to the plan ... Where is the money, Zin? What equipment will they buy and service? Where did the ammunition come from? Will the army be like the Baltic ones using equipment rented and decommissioned from NATO? Or maybe in general, a regiment of US marines will also house America with Us?
              1. Tatyana 9 November 2015 21: 32 New
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                Quote from the article Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko:
                For the first time in the history of Ukraine, the development of such an important document included foreign experts, in particular the NATO External Relations Office, because among the main directions of development of the domestic army is the implementation of the relevant (NATO) STANDARDS.
                As well as foreign - not sovereign crying - Ukraine’s goals too! fool
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            2. APASUS 9 November 2015 19: 05 New
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              Quote: 79807420129
              They will develop a plan to quickly carry away their legs, and some sort of a post at NATO headquarters, they will sell everything that is possible on the territory of 404, including honor and conscience.

              The plan may remain a plan. Who will allocate money for this reform and development? Here, a default is planned for next month, and there are generally unclear prospects .........
          2. Vladimirets 9 November 2015 14: 25 New
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            Quote: kepmor
            "Peremoga to no longer help"

            No matter how much you say too much, the zrad will not go anywhere. smile
            1. maxim1987 9 November 2015 14: 44 New
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              Quote: Vladimirets
              No matter how much you say too much, the zrad will not go anywhere.


              tse nezalezhnost
            2. maxim1987 9 November 2015 14: 44 New
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              Quote: Vladimirets
              No matter how much you say too much, the zrad will not go anywhere.


              tse nezalezhnost
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          4. Oman 47 9 November 2015 23: 57 New
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            But the STAR at Ilovaisky is almost wider than the shoulder strap, Pinochet, b. Kakhlyatsky ...
        2. iConst 9 November 2015 13: 51 New
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          Quote: Wend
          How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already.
          - Judging by the reports, Kiev (my opinion) did not refuse a forceful decision to return Donbass.
          Valtsman, the illegal president of Ukraine, is preparing two scenarios: the first is when the wheels of Minsk-2 will turn with a creak and the second when the provocation will be prepared to resume hostilities.

          At the same time, I’m sure that Hollande and Merkel are not against the second option, but only “so that the mosquito’s nose doesn’t undermine”, when they could say without losing their faces, we did everything, but Russia is so-so ... and in the text.
          1. I am Russian 9 November 2015 18: 27 New
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            Quote: iConst
            Quote: Wend
            How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already.
            - Judging by the reports, Kiev (my opinion) did not refuse a forceful decision to return Donbass.
            Valtsman, the illegal president of Ukraine, is preparing two scenarios: the first is when the wheels of Minsk-2 will turn with a creak and the second when the provocation will be prepared to resume hostilities.

            At the same time, I’m sure that Hollande and Merkel are not against the second option, but only “so that the mosquito’s nose doesn’t undermine”, when they could say without losing their faces, we did everything, but Russia is so-so ... and in the text.



            Dyk Lavrov has already said that Minsk-2 will be continued for 2016.
        3. wow
          wow 9 November 2015 13: 56 New
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          No, why don’t they? Jump, for example, painted fences again. What are you, boiling a robot, a plaque, a fly ...!
        4. Leviton 9 November 2015 14: 07 New
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          Quote: Wend
          How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already. Well, except for the stupid maidans.

          Well, Maidan, too, with the filing and with the active support of Western specialists .....
        5. volot-voin 9 November 2015 14: 28 New
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          Quote: Wend
          How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already.

          It's hard to be a traitor however. Muzhenko’s gaze is gloomy; you cannot escape fate.
        6. krokodil25 9 November 2015 17: 21 New
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          Quote: Wend
          How pathetic they are. They only do that, hoping for someone. They themselves can’t do anything already. Well, except for the stupid maidans.

          Yes, and I remember the Maidan, they didn’t organize it, they sold the country for dough sprinkled with dill? !
      2. AlexTires 9 November 2015 13: 22 New
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        For the fact that by 2020 year
        “not all” citizens of Ukraine will reach ...
        1. MIKHAN 9 November 2015 13: 28 New
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          When developing the Concept for the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine before 2020, we will actively use both our own and the best foreign experience.

          There is no longer the Ukrainian Army (and it wasn’t in principle) ... There remained gangs of killers of civilians ..
          1. Temples 9 November 2015 13: 35 New
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            They themselves are not zapadlo?
            What kind of warriors are these?
            I can’t name them officers.
            They are like dolls blinking.
            A drop of dignity and would be sent to hell and Amertsev and their "rulers."
            You gave the oath to defend your homeland. So the time has come, and you were blown away ....
          2. kepmor 9 November 2015 14: 15 New
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            About the "gang of killers" is absolutely for sure! I would like the Ukrainians to continue to "actively use their own" slaughter "experience", especially regarding "master cooking (for example, Ilovaisky or Debaltsevsky)"! Damn, great masters, however ... let the mattresses be taught!
            Now compare the look of the GUY HERO and the freak general! There’s nothing more to talk about!
          3. Sober 9 November 2015 16: 42 New
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            And the topic itself is boring, dreary, like the expression of this face in the photo.
      3. Good me 9 November 2015 13: 26 New
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        New "Peremoga". The concept of development of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be prepared by NATO experts


        So what is the pretentious, kasatik? Al "overcome" are over?
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        2. lelikas 9 November 2015 13: 51 New
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          Quote: Good I
          So what is the pretentious, kasatik? Al "overcome" are over?

          Many stars on uniform, crush an unbroken soul, do not give normal work and interfere with overwork!
          He just realized where he fit ....
          1. Good me 9 November 2015 14: 06 New
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            Quote: lelikas
            Many stars on uniform, crush an unbroken soul, do not give normal work and interfere with overwork!
            He just realized where he fit ....


            With stars on uniform, no question. Let changes to svidomye.

            And on the account of what I signed up for, it's a psychiatrist, before it's too late. Then, from the tribunal, in the psychiatric hospital, the "slope" will not work ...
        3. polkovnik manuch 9 November 2015 13: 59 New
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          And the general along the way from a deep hangover?
          1. Oman 47 10 November 2015 00: 02 New
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            Interview - on MONDAY, after YESTERDAY ???! drinks
        4. Finches 9 November 2015 14: 42 New
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          Just now I’ve taken a closer look, why did he have our stars on shoulder straps ??? Today, this is not a trend in (in) Ukraine. Only clover flowers, cannabis stalks or the notorious dill, which, if my memory remains unchanged, even found the Saxon Shakespeare (Hamlet, the Danish prince) symbolizes flattery, deceit and betrayal !?
          1. Finches 9 November 2015 15: 04 New
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            How on a machine in a smartphone words are distorted and you don’t notice! laughing
            Minusit - Muzhenko? laughing
        5. Ganssh 9 November 2015 21: 01 New
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          1983 - graduated from the Leningrad Higher Combined Arms School (now the St. Petersburg Higher Combined Arms Command School)

          disgrace to expel and erase
          sorry I will say the army word - Man Interfering Society
      4. vovanpain 9 November 2015 13: 34 New
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        Quote: Now we are free
        B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?

        Yes, nobody seems to know the answer to this very question. That's probably for it.
      5. Vladimyrych 9 November 2015 13: 37 New
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      6. demon1978 9 November 2015 13: 38 New
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        Quote: Now we are free
        At the same time, it is noted that Ukraine "may be in NATO in a 20-year perspective."

        B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?


        But will there be NATO, in this same 20 year term ??? !!! request The fact that the Ruins in its present form will not be is 100 %% yes
      7. GRAY 9 November 2015 13: 38 New
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        Quote: Now we are free
        At the same time, it is noted that Ukraine "may be in NATO in a 20-year perspective."

        B ... MAIDAN STAND FOR SHCHO?!?

        This is when Ukraine, according to Sobakashvilli, reaches the level of development of the times of Yanukovych. lol
        Glory to EuroGabon!
        1. veksha50 9 November 2015 14: 33 New
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          Quote: GRAY
          Glory to EuroGabon!



          Glorious lad ... Is this a double of Gunpowder ???
          1. GRAY 9 November 2015 14: 45 New
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            Quote: veksha50
            Glorious lad ... Is this a double of Gunpowder ???

            This is his mass-dimensional layout. I went to Europe. lol
      8. Comrade Bender 9 November 2015 14: 29 New
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        Maidan stood for the right to promise "not only for everyone." lol
      9. Maxom75 9 November 2015 15: 11 New
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        Permog will probably be like Katz? Katz always offered to give up.))) Https://youtu.be/N0r2nQdpM58?t=1
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      12. GSH-18 9 November 2015 21: 24 New
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        The new "rethinking". NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

        Seamlessly blending into zrada! lol
      13. proletarian 9 November 2015 23: 25 New
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        Yak for sho, that for the new rope !!!
    2. DanSabaka 9 November 2015 13: 23 New
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      I don’t know, is it true .... but ... the bitch is a bitch death ....
    3. Finches 9 November 2015 13: 29 New
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      This clown is Muzhenko, and also an officer of the Soviet army! It has long been clear to everyone that only one country, the USSR and its successor Russia, has the best combat experience in modern history, after a grandiose WWII and “peace enforcement” of the Kwantung army .. . Everything else that was in the modern history of mankind is true, albeit bloody, but ordinary yard disassembly and no more! And in the West, the military budget is aimed at enriching a certain handful of people, and not at creating a real and combat-ready army — Russia went along this path and only the memory of the War stopped the general collapse of the Armed Forces!
      Once again I will express my opinion about Ukraine, playfully, with the dialogue of the heroes of modern comedy:
      "-You must finish it (Ukraine)!
      - We must seek consensus!
      - Find consensus and kick it, kick it ...! "

      I wonder how Muzhenko lives with bloody boys in his eyes ...?
      1. SibSlavRus 9 November 2015 14: 33 New
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        Interestingly, in the continuation of the topic, will they switch to NATO standards (will they convince you to switch?)?
        Now it will be for sure "both laughter and sin."
        Due to the state budget, of course. American friends will give loans to purchase from, again, American friends used equipment, weapons and equipment. That will greatly help the American army get rid of obsolete models, + constantly selling ammunition, + constant payment of consultants and instructors to PMCs, + constant selling of consumables for equipment, etc. In general, as usual, they will make it dependent, like all NATO. “They will hook on NATO,” so to speak.
        This is nothing personal, just a business.
        Oh yes! Securing an American loan - the remnants of state property and land.
        This is a business !!! And they added pseudo-money, and opened a second-hand second-hand, and the state assets took their hands in full profit, and they will have more interest from the loan.
        How can you be such a sucker?
        Or, do not care logic and common sense, the main thing is not like the Russians?
        Georgians did not help.
        The strength of Russian weapons and spirit is beyond competition! This is historically the case.
        Be you even thrice NATO ...
    4. GRAY 9 November 2015 13: 30 New
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      Quote: viktorrymar
      Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment, Ukrainian media reported.

      There was such infa last week - it turned out to be a fake. Although this is possible in principle, its address can easily be found on various resources.
    5. kepmor 9 November 2015 13: 41 New
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      Justice has triumphed!
    6. corporal 9 November 2015 13: 54 New
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      Quote: viktorrymar
      The infamous Ukrainian blogger Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment,

      Already refuted. It's a pity. am
    7. roskot 9 November 2015 14: 00 New
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      Dog canine death.
    8. veksha50 9 November 2015 14: 15 New
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      Quote: viktorrymar
      Maybe someone heard that? : The infamous Ukrainian blogger Maxim Volokh, who cynically ridiculed the crash of the Russian A-321, was killed in his own apartment, Ukrainian media reported



      Outdated data ... He already, practically not having lived for days after his "performance", rested in a Bose ...

      PS Do not wish evil to your neighbor ...
    9. 33 Watcher 9 November 2015 14: 47 New
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      I heard. And for a long time, a couple of days after the crash and comments, respectively. It seems they killed in their own apartment, of. Authorities, do not comment.
    10. marlin1203 9 November 2015 18: 49 New
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      Why are the eyes of the army general like a sad spaniel?
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      SAG 9 November 2015 23: 30 New
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      There is no such news on your link. minus
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    avt 9 November 2015 13: 17 New
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    ,, Lost the house! " laughing But first, the steam heating will be turned off. They don’t know about it - they prudently banned Bulgakov Ruins in the territory and poke quietly past the toilet. In general, the news is good - considering how the US prepared the armies of Afghanistan and Iraq, one can imagine what will happen at the exit.
  3. Coconut Tima 9 November 2015 13: 19 New
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    "implementation of relevant (NATO) standards."
    Purchase of junk unnecessary in NATO countries?
    1. veksha50 9 November 2015 14: 35 New
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      Quote: coconut tim
      Purchase of junk unnecessary in NATO countries?



      Vparivanie junk for loans issued ... Ukraine for thousands of years will not pay ...
  4. sannych 9 November 2015 13: 19 New
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    The optimists, however, are hidden, right up to 2020 hoping to exist. The revolution of nonsense, apparently, is to attract foreigners in all areas of the state.
  5. Mama_Cholli 9 November 2015 13: 21 New
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    Well Ukrainians are optimists, right up to 2020 make a guess ....

    I hope the head of Gazprom has a different opinion.
    1. Amurets 9 November 2015 13: 26 New
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      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Well Ukrainians are optimists, right up to 2020 make a guess ....

      I hope the head of Gazprom has a different opinion.

      Good until 2120 years do not plan
  6. AlexTires 9 November 2015 13: 23 New
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    Very bad with people in Ukraine.
    Either ministers are imported, then customs officers, now they have reached the specialists of the NATO liaison office. fool
  7. rf xnumx 9 November 2015 13: 24 New
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    implementation of relevant (NATO) standards.
    In whom to introduce there, it’s a ruin
  8. Wolverine 9 November 2015 13: 24 New
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    When developing the Concept for the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until 2020

    What the hell are up to 2020 years, optimists, you don’t know what will happen to them tomorrow, here are the sick ...
    1. Good me 9 November 2015 13: 58 New
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      What the hell are up to 2020 years, optimists, you don’t know what will happen to them tomorrow, here are the sick ...


      They, the Western curators, promised that everything will be a "bunch" ... And Ukraine will become a single state, and the damned will be defeated in the battle in the Urals ...
  9. iliitchitch 9 November 2015 13: 28 New
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    Yes, they, except how to steal, already know nothing, foreign countries will help them stir up the “concept”. In time for December 19th they’ll finish writing, they will give a loan, then they will take it away to pay for the development of a new “contraception” ... But although I’ve dispersed it, these poor people will not survive until the 17th, it seems.
  10. v1tz 9 November 2015 13: 30 New
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    Who would doubt why they needed the territory of Ukraine to implement the military concept of the United States ...
  11. alex-cn 9 November 2015 13: 30 New
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    In vain you guys - the Europeans will make the same clumsy creature out of 404 armies as the European armies. Who will feel bad from this?
  12. tank64rus 9 November 2015 13: 31 New
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    Well, how will it be necessary to kiss the boot of NATO at a meeting of military personnel. What a dirty trick this is. NATO is our enemy, has been and will be. Tales of peaceful appointment leave patients to ward number 6. Well, once 300 million. Allocated war in the Donbass will continue, and Mindogovory will be in the bin.
  13. Kibl 9 November 2015 13: 33 New
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    Why are you killed, Vityok! Why are you sitting there at the General Staff? You haven’t needed anybody for a long time and all the squeals of Parasha that the dill army is in the top five of Europe’s strongest arimies went to manure !!!
  14. Stinger 9 November 2015 13: 39 New
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    And the look of the maydanut general is unclear. They omitted foreign experts. For the first time. The main thing to get used to. Further it will be easier and the view will be clarified according to NATO standards. Take courage, Muzhenko.
  15. Corsair0304 9 November 2015 13: 40 New
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    I can’t understand one thing - why is this "chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (it turns out there is such a thing?) Viktor Muzhenko wears stars on uniform This is the legacy of the USSR / Russia! Let them change for the chisels there either dumplings or bottles with a bottle (this insignia can only be worn by a parashenka)
    A little story about the stars:
    "On April 21, 1917, the Minister of War and Naval A. Guchkov places a five-pointed star on the fringes of sailors' caps - right above the anchor.
    However, the “Martian star” showed itself most vividly after another revolution - the Great October Revolution. The young Soviet government did not have time to start forming the Red Army, when there was an urgent need for new symbolism. This was largely due to the fact that in the fire of the Civil War the warring parties were often dressed in clothes of the same cut and in battle it was not easy to distinguish strangers from their own.
    So in the symbolism of the Land of Soviets the famous red five-pointed star first appears.
    The symbol under the name “Mars star with a plow and a hammer” was officially approved by the order of L. Trotsky on May 7, 1918. The following was also said there: “The Red Army badge is an affiliation of persons serving in the Red Army. service in the Red Army, these signs are proposed to be removed immediately. For failure to comply with this order, the perpetrators will be brought to trial by the military tribunal "
    1. Good me 9 November 2015 14: 27 New
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      Quote: Corsair0304
      So in the symbolism of the Land of Soviets the famous red five-pointed star first appears.


      On the legendary Budenovka, a five-pointed red star, at the beginning with a PLOW and a HAMMER, and later with a SICKLE and a HAMMER, was placed in the center of a five-pointed star sewn in front of the visor with a diameter of the base circle 8,8 cm of cloth, the color of which depended on the type of troops (forces).

      By order of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic No. 628 of 8 on April 1919, six cloth colors were established for the insignia of the branches of the armed forces (forces), which also relied on tight-fitting helmet buttons and a sewn-in star: for the infantry - raspberry, for cavalry - blue, for artillery - orange, for aviation - blue, for engineering troops - black, for border troops (which during this period were also part of the Red Army) - green. The diameter of the base circumference of the patch star has been increased to 10,5 cm.
    2. Normal ok 9 November 2015 15: 57 New
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      I can’t understand one thing - why is this "chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (it turns out there is such a thing?) Viktor Muzhenko wears stars on uniforms? This is the legacy of the USSR / Russia!

      To be precise, the five-pointed stars on epaulettes, Russia copied from France under Nicholas 1. And now stars are used in many armies of the world. For example, these are insignia of American generals.
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    And what, these unfinished stars on uniform have not yet been canceled?
    1. sannych 9 November 2015 13: 49 New
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      Sometimes a comma, put in the right place, dramatically changes the meaning of the statement (or of the question).
  17. pts-m 9 November 2015 13: 43 New
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    if they themselves can’t develop a concept, then there’s a kind of horseradish of wines there. Probably for ... decorating the place ... they could be found more photogenic.
  18. Mordan 9 November 2015 13: 44 New
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    one thought warms my soul - Ukraine is doomed to die very dramatically. And millions of stupid ukrov are not yet aware of this.
  19. Mordan 9 November 2015 13: 45 New
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    It is curious that the Ukrainian word "lads" came from the Polish "claps", that is, rural slaves. For many centuries, the lands of present-day Western Ukraine belonged to the Commonwealth. In Lviv and other cities lived Poles, Jews, Armenians. The place for Ukrainians was only a rural hut, only work in the farmyard and field.
  20. Russia 9 November 2015 13: 47 New
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    NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

    What can I say!
    They "brain-mailed" their brains; And these, other people's brains, are only baked for their own benefit. That's why they are “Aliens” (film). Devour and do not choke.
  21. shinobi 9 November 2015 13: 50 New
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    Complete and finally defeated insanity in a single country. NATO is trying to learn from our experience, it itself is not able to quickly mobilize troops, but these are there too. The full fox is shorter.
  22. bmv04636 9 November 2015 13: 56 New
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    I don’t understand why there are still stars and not daisies, so what is this really a diversion? laughing
  23. afrikanez 9 November 2015 13: 59 New
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    the development of such an important document included foreign experts, in particular the NATO External Relations Office,
    Well, if that is so, then we can safely say that Ukraine went on hand! (NATO-28 has members) laughing
  24. polkovnik manuch 9 November 2015 14: 08 New
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    Muzhenko has already broken along the way, the view is not healthy. Looks like things are not just going bad, but absolutely ...., or maybe he just started to realize that he was sitting on that cart, but he was afraid to jump on the go.
  25. aibolit72 9 November 2015 14: 15 New
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    The new electronic warfare has already entered the troops.
  26. veksha50 9 November 2015 14: 17 New
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    "the concept of development of the armed forces of Ukraine for the period until 2020"...

    And you believe that, stupid ...
  27. roskot 9 November 2015 14: 34 New
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    As they say. With whom you lead, you will receive those standards. Do you need it?
  28. Neophyte 9 November 2015 14: 41 New
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    It’s time to smear heels with fat and stop dreaming of a “great army!” This pseudo-state has no future and it’s time to recognize ukrovoyak!
  29. vobels 9 November 2015 14: 54 New
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    [/ quote] Well, if so, then we can safely say that Ukraine went on hand! (NATO has 28 members) laughing[/ Quote]
    Yes, after 28 members do not give her a long time ...
  30. slaw14 9 November 2015 14: 56 New
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    States have a training mania. Already taken for ...
    1. RUSOIVAN 9 November 2015 15: 37 New
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      Barak Huseynovich or what?
  31. LukaSaraev 9 November 2015 15: 15 New
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    Quote: veksha50
    Ukraine for thousands of years will not pay ...


    And who said. what are they going to pay? And is there already Ukraine? External management. There, business nuland rules everything.
  32. Zomanus 9 November 2015 15: 29 New
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    Well, actually, if Ukraine seeks to become a member of NATO,
    then this approach can be considered the most reasonable.
    Since Ukraine now has practically no army,
    then it’s worth building the NATO structure from scratch.
    And these are weapons, training, communications and interaction with other NATO members.
    It must be admitted that Ukraine, as a friendly state, we have lost forever.
    And to treat it stands exclusively as a neutral-hostile (so far neutral) state.
    Like how to Poland ...
    And I think that soon the full-fledged construction of the demarcation line will begin on our side.
    And this will certainly not be the disgrace that Yatsenyuk is building.
  33. _my opinion 9 November 2015 16: 15 New
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    Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko announced that foreign experts have joined in the creation of program strategic documents.

    ... one illusion remained from the state ... APU is at war with its people ...
    what kind of words I forgot - programmatic strategic documents ... right up to 2020 I waved ...
    the ride continues ...
  34. Lt. Air Force stock 9 November 2015 16: 36 New
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    Now Ukraine will have a pair of Patriot air defense systems, old Abrams tanks, and F-16s.
  35. pvv113 9 November 2015 18: 36 New
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    NATO Specialists Prepare Development Concept

    Quickly glanced at the headline - it seemed not "the concept of the development of the Armed Forces", but "contraception of the development of the Armed Forces". For some reason I was not surprised hi
  36. atamankko 9 November 2015 19: 23 New
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    A dying state cannot have a living Army.
  37. Vladimir 23rus 9 November 2015 20: 54 New
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    foreign specialists, in particular external relations office NATO, after all, among the main directions of development of the domestic army are implementation of relevant (NATO) standards.
    And what will they (the office of external relations) develop for them ??? What are these NATO standards? How to standardly bark at Russia or what?
    1. Oman 47 10 November 2015 00: 20 New
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      EXTERNAL OFFICE OFFICE (in the Russian sense of this phrase) ...
  38. Baloo 9 November 2015 21: 02 New
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    Durkain's NATO standard, it's cooler than the Dusoli circus. We will see. Who pays for the performance? wassat
  39. Good cat 9 November 2015 22: 07 New
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    Found something to brag about, dunce!
  40. Don Cesar 9 November 2015 22: 41 New
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    face of an aging handover that has nothing to lose
  41. natakor1949 9 November 2015 22: 53 New
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    "... judging by the terms, they will reach NATO," not only all "the citizens of the outskirts ..." That phrase says it all.
  42. mamont5 10 November 2015 07: 02 New
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    These "independent" try on the neck of the Western yoke without hiding, and even proud of it.