Korochenko: Su-35 supplies to the United Arab Emirates will make the country's Air Force the strongest in the region

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Possible deliveries of several dozen fighter jets to the UAE will make this country's Air Force the strongest in the Gulf region, reports RIA News words of military expert, director of TSAMTO Igor Korotchenko.

Korochenko: Su-35 supplies to the United Arab Emirates will make the country's Air Force the strongest in the region


Earlier, the head of "Rostec" Sergey Chemezov at the air show in Dubai, reported on negotiations with the government of the UAE about the supply of Su-35 fighters to the country. How many planes in question, Chemezov did not specify.

“The possible signing of a contract with the UAE for the supply of Russian Su-35 fighter jets will be a landmark event for both countries. For the Emirates, given the complexity of the region and the need to carry out air missions, including with the defeat of naval targets, it will be the perfect aircraft, which is significantly ahead of any Western counterparts presented here. This will allow the UAE to take a leading position in the hierarchy of the Persian Gulf countries and make them the country No. XXUMX in terms of the potential of the Air Force, ”said the expert.

According to him, “the purchase of fighters will allow the UAE to climb the inaccessible step relative to other countries in the region, since the Su-35, having a wide range of controlled weapons, is capable of solving any tasks of intercepting air and fighting sea and land targets. ”

According to Korotchenko, we can talk about buying a few dozen cars. “The Emirates is a rich country, so they can afford any parties, the only question is what decision the military leadership will take. Obviously, there will be at least a few dozen fighters. ”

He noted that the interest of the Russian aviation technology speaks of the independence of the UAE. “This is a sovereign decision of a sovereign state, which really cares about strengthening its national defense,” the expert concluded.
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  1. +5
    9 November 2015 11: 11
    Still, drying was so promoted in Syria ... the price-performance ratio is perfect ...
    1. +3
      9 November 2015 11: 16
      That's right, we need to squeeze mattress covers from the arms market, especially in the Middle East!
      1. +45
        9 November 2015 11: 33
        Yes, it’s all so business of course, but I don’t understand why arming outright enemies ... stop
        1. +3
          9 November 2015 11: 47
          Well, firstly, we are definitely not stupid and take this into account! Weapon options are delivered without an advanced solution! Those. what we already have an anti-reaction to!
          Secondly - money for further modernization, development! in a word - on the progress of the military-industrial complex!
          1. +4
            9 November 2015 12: 25
            and no one thought that the sale of any weapon for fabulous money is far from always a consequence of its quality. Most likely there was political bargaining between the political circles of the UAE and Russia. And for a certain important service (concession) by the Kremlin, the Arabs agreed to thank them properly by purchasing something from military equipment. Moreover, abroad they have long known that Putin can be appeased in precisely this way - by maintaining large orders of the Russian military-industrial complex. In addition, frantic financial bonuses for the contract are received by everyone who was somehow connected with it. And the issue of quality is as if it were separate, no one even says that our planes are bad, it’s just that sometimes it can be a completely different matter. Perhaps even Syria somehow appears in this matter or something else.
        2. +3
          9 November 2015 11: 59
          Quote: Wolverine
          Yes, it’s all so business of course, but I don’t understand why arming outright enemies ...

          Well, probably not such enemies. A country with a population of 4 million people, without industry as such, can probably be called an enemy with a big stretch. What for? For the money, well, maybe oil will also rise in price. There, by the way, they also sold the S-300 to Iran, so everything is fine. smile
        3. +1
          9 November 2015 12: 16
          Quote: Wolverine
          Yes, it’s all so business of course, but I don’t understand why arming outright enemies ...


          They took it off the tongue. Let me explain about the enemies: the hucksters do not have, as such, the concept of "enemy": only competitors and partners. Our army is armed with new devices in fewer numbers than the same China or India. Even Malaysia and Indonesia are armed with ours, including, pardon the tautology, weapons. For myself - in the last place: friendship and partnership, however, well, and profit. And then: how to go hunting - so to feed the dogs.
          1. 0
            9 November 2015 18: 02
            The military-industrial complex should earn, and not just sit on subsidies and orders of domestic budget eaters. We need a balance, an increase in the package of orders due to export, mass production with a decrease in prime cost, and thereby honing production chains. Not to mention the emergence of funds to attract new young specialists and purchase equipment (machine tools, technologies).
            1. 0
              9 November 2015 18: 46
              Quote: Anatole
              The military-industrial complex should earn, and not just sit on subsidies and orders of domestic budget eaters. We need a balance, an increase in the package of orders due to export, mass production with a decrease in prime cost, and thereby honing production chains. Not to mention the emergence of funds to attract new young specialists and purchase equipment (machine tools, technologies).

              With both hands "for", no one is against export. I just want to join our army first, and export is the second thing. Hindus, for example, try to buy military products if they are in service with the exporting country.
          2. 0
            9 November 2015 19: 41
            Quote: villain
            competitors and partners

            And customers
        4. 0
          9 November 2015 12: 32
          Well, the export option is different and different from those in the troops. Especially since the news went that Iran would still receive its C300 from Russia. And if the truth is, they will buy American f-35s or eurofighters. Moreover, their aviation is purely American.
        5. -1
          9 November 2015 13: 08
          Quote: Wolverine
          Yes, it’s all so business of course, but I don’t understand why arming outright enemies ..

          ----------------------
          The UAE is a kissel, a loose state entity. This is not yet Saudi (or already). And export arms come in a cropped version ...
        6. 0
          9 November 2015 14: 02
          That's right, not everything measures money
        7. 0
          9 November 2015 19: 34
          Quote: Wolverine
          Yes, it’s all so business of course, but I don’t understand why arming outright enemies ...

          Anatoly, and what did you proceed by declaring the UAE our open enemy, share, rightly interesting, colleague. hi
      2. +18
        9 November 2015 11: 40
        Now, if you look at the map, then you are still tormented by these UAEs, our country of this size, and our Armed Forces are waiting for equipment at the end of the line, business to business, and the defense of their state should be a priority.
      3. +20
        9 November 2015 11: 56
        What a "JOY" - "UAE Air Force will be the strongest in the region!" Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! To our "Rosoboronexport" - GLORY!
        In the current situation, our Air Force really needs these aircraft. And the money earned from the sale is not a fact that will go to our defense industry. Nabiullina and Siluanov, as always, will find them "effective use" in the form of US government bonds, for example!
        Even with the Su-35, will the UAE Air Force become the strongest in the Middle East? This is “grandma said for two!” The Su-35 is an excellent machine, BUT ... will the “descendants of the Bedouins” be able to use them 100%? Wouldn't it be better to give the “drying” to our pilots?
        1. +4
          9 November 2015 13: 36
          Damn, it looks like children around. request There are only 3 technologically advanced industries where we control a significant part of the market - space, nuclear power and the military industrial complex. Nobody really needs our cars and computers or underpants there. All this is done by SE Asia and the EU. So you have to fight for increasing the market where possible. The UAE (by the way, unlike Qatar or the Saudis) did not cause us any problems. In addition, he regularly overstocked with weapons in the west. And now we first pushed our competitors by placing the UAE BMP, and now also fighters. That is, we strike the mattresses with the most important thing in capitalism - their sales markets and begin to crush their VPK companies. For mattresses it is a strong irritant and they may try to break the deal. In addition, the UAE has a client with money, but money will not hurt our VPK. This is how order by order we can get a profitable regular customer such as Algeria or India.
          1. +1
            9 November 2015 15: 51
            An old joke in the subject.
            Our factory, dear comrades, produces whistles. Whistles we
            send to Mongolia, where shepherds use them in order to
            convoke herds. When cattle are slaughtered, they send the skin ... no, not to
            us, and to Czechoslovakia. In Czechoslovakia, leather shoes are made from these skins,
            and send it ... no, not to us, but to Hungary. In Hungary, these shoes are worn
            Hungarians, and when it is completely worn out, then they send it ... no, not to us, but to
            Romania. There, these shoes are used by workers to knead clay,
            but they send this clay to us, so that we can make it
            whistles. This, comrades, is called the international division of labor.
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          3. 0
            9 November 2015 18: 03
            I fully support +
    2. +7
      9 November 2015 11: 19
      Possible deliveries of several dozen fighters to the UAE will make the country's air force the strongest in the Persian Gulf region, RIA Novosti reports the words of a military expert, director of TsAMTO Igor Korotchenko.
      Where for us? Do we not need to be the strongest in our region? When will they be brought to mind for us and purchased in normal quantities?
      1. +4
        9 November 2015 11: 50
        Yes, after the demonstration of Ros.vooruzheniya in Syria, many countries, especially the rich, began to pay attention to him and not to the "sky-high technologies" of the USA and Co. ... Correlation: anger-quality-price-availability-practical



        personalities will gradually leave expensive "crystal" toys outside the military economy. The Arabs and other countries now need an effective weapon that spreads / burns out the enemy and not computer shooters A la "Desert Storm" which, yes, they look beautiful in Hollywood, only 1991 years have passed since 26 and now money is being invested in efficiency in the first turn and not in Ponta ...
        What the Aerospace Forces could do in a month on old Su-24/25 and on several "Duckies" could not be done (or maybe they did not want to, although now what does it matter?) USA and Co. for almost a year and a half ... talk about the SU-35?
        Another factor of appeal towards the purchase of Ros. weapons may also be the fact that the UAE wants to invest in the purchase of Ros. weapons as a guarantee from the Russian Federation that the Russian Federation, if it is not an ally of the UAE's policy in the Middle East mess, will at least adhere to "Warm neutrality" in relation to this country ... So the Arabs have done more than once by purchasing American, French, German weapons. It seems that the UAE will gradually distance itself from the SA, Qatar and other "Fraternal Arab" countries in order to generally remain as a state, because the turmoil in which the SA and Qatar play the main role of the "Roof" of the bad guys from ISIS is just beginning ...

        P.S. Money for a contract for the supply of SU-35 for the Russian economy (especially now) is very good, as is the very fact of the purchase of Russian weapons (for advertising purposes). But I really would not want in the future to see the SU-35 UAE as well as the BMP-3M (already fighting in Yemen) in the crosshairs of the sights of our airborne forces and aircraft, which is quite possible given the Middle East mess ...
      2. 0
        9 November 2015 14: 08
        What for? How many years did they take the BMP-3? They drove it over a hill, but it was not suitable for our army.
      3. -1
        9 November 2015 14: 19
        we have 2 fighters per year and the contract term is up to fifty shaggy years. It seems like there are no production capacities. and then immediately to the Chinese and Bedouins ... airfields are empty. and the after-repair junk falls.
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    3. +14
      9 November 2015 11: 19
      “This is a sovereign decision of a sovereign state that really cares about strengthening its national defense”,

      All this is very good, and that the contract will be signed and that there will be money, but we don’t need to strengthen our defense capability, especially in the current fire hazard.
      1. +12
        9 November 2015 11: 33
        I have recently been of the opinion that our government has a split personality. Russia pursues a brilliant foreign policy, but completely loses in the domestic one. It seems like two different people rule.
        1. +3
          9 November 2015 11: 46
          Quote: Alexey M
          I have recently been of the opinion that our government has a split personality. Russia pursues a brilliant foreign policy, but completely loses in the domestic one. It seems like two different people rule.

          There are 24 hours in a day and there is only one head ... We must choose priorities. Besides, there will always be "hunters" for a rich but defenseless country. I think so ®
          Although, it's time to change something in the conservatory ®
          1. +6
            9 November 2015 13: 53
            There are 24 hours in a day and there is only one head ... We must choose priorities. Besides, there will always be "hunters" for a rich but defenseless country. I think so ®
            Although, it's time to change something in the conservatory ®


            it turns out Stalin was a dragon with seven heads and time then flowed differently? although ... he did not go in for sports, he did not travel around the world, but he poked his nose everywhere, even reviewed textbooks and films, if I may say so. The conservatory was different then, that's for sure. Perhaps there were more professionals? and why are we again "offended for the state" ??

            these are the words of one serb

            “Why do you need Europe, Russians? It is hard to find a more self-sufficient people than you. It is Europe that needs you, but not you. There are so many of you - as many as three countries, but there is no unity! You have everything of your own: a lot of land, energy, fuel, water, science, industry, culture. When we had Yugoslavia and we were united, we felt like a great force capable of turning mountains. Now, because of our stupidity, nationalism, unwillingness to hear each other, Yugoslavia is no more and we are acne on the political map of Europe, new markets for their dear junk and American democracy. ”

            and more

            “Russians! I now appeal to all Russians, and the inhabitants of Ukraine and Belarus in the Balkans are also considered Russians. Look at us and remember - they will do the same to you when you disconnect and give slack. West - a rabid chain dog clings to your throat. Brothers, remember the fate of Yugoslavia! Don't let me do the same to you! ” from the last interview with Slobodan Milosevic.

            it was said in 2011, but as a prophecy for Ukraine ...
            1. 0
              9 November 2015 15: 43
              Stalin did not manage to do much of what was planned ... Yes, and he died, it seems, not by his death ...
          2. +3
            9 November 2015 14: 21
            And you all think that the tsar’s father directs everything himself, he doesn’t sleep at night, everything takes care of the country.
            Look at the composition of the government. There are 30 snouts, plus two houses of the Duma, plus their governments in the regions. Plus security officials, the army and the Ministry of Emergencies.
            But things are still there. Not so long ago in Russia they showed a documentary film about a thief. And what, someone sat down? And such a movie can be shot in any state office, starting from a kindergarten ending with any ministry.
            To be respected abroad, restore order first at home. And then there will be a rich, strong state that everyone will respect.
          3. 0
            9 November 2015 15: 39
            The President is not a hundred-armed and hundred-footed deity ....
      2. +1
        9 November 2015 11: 34
        And we have su27 all modernize. Probably pack fa wait.
        1. +2
          9 November 2015 14: 24
          they’re not waiting for him anymore. why they say to us, let him be experienced. an order for up to 12 cars seems to have been shot down. like t90cm, we don’t need anything, we are waiting for the armature. even those very budget modernized ones. pah!
    4. +3
      9 November 2015 11: 33
      "Possible deliveries of several dozen fighters to the UAE will make the country's air force the strongest in the region."
      It is not enough to have a good technique. It all depends on the "spacer" between the steering wheel and the seat!
    5. -1
      9 November 2015 11: 35
      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      Still, drying was so promoted in Syria ... the price-performance ratio is perfect ...

      God forbid from air battles, escalation is needed?
    6. +3
      9 November 2015 11: 38
      let them first sign and pay, and then we will rejoice.
    7. +4
      9 November 2015 11: 44
      These Su35 are ready to sell to all countries, but we ourselves do not have enough such aircraft, so first of all our interests, then everything else ...
    8. +4
      9 November 2015 12: 11
      And I think the bourgeois world agrees to do everything if only modern weapons do not appear in Russia, well, what is a few billion dollars for those who print them? Nothing! TWO SECONDS type numbers on the keyboard and press enter .. But in order to get these tokens on the account, we need to spend millions of man hours tearing them away from our needs and worries. And the most interesting thing is that if we get these zeros (what are the doubts in the light of recent events) then what will they give us to spend on them? Securities on legs or apples? And for all that we REALLY need SANCTIONS .. So it seems to me like an operation to buy weapons from the population (it was in Panama, Iraq and other places that the machine gun got 100 bucks) in the occupied territories so that there was nothing to defend your rights in which ..
      pc: Therefore, I was categorically against selling MI-17 to Americans in Afghanistan, let them spend their REAL resources by slaughtering complex and expensive pieces of iron instead of virtual zeros.
      1. 0
        9 November 2015 12: 23
        But it does not seem to you that these planes will go into service with the United States.
      2. +2
        9 November 2015 12: 57
        Quote: max702
        press enter ...
        ... And the most interesting thing is that if we get these zeroes

        Then you can press Enter, and these zeros will come here they are. The photo shows a 6TVK-55 CNC milling vertical machining center manufactured by Tulamash. This is how production works in a market economy.
        1. 0
          9 November 2015 18: 08
          Me, judging by the general number of comments, people write completely removed from production! Export is always a huge plus for our "raw material" economy. Let the factories earn money, buy new equipment and talented guys for wages. more than 15t.r. invite.
        2. 0
          11 November 2015 10: 24
          Come on!!! Mistrals have arrived, equipment for the Mulino landfill, German power plants for destroyers, Opel has also been sold to us, electronic production lines are also being sold ... The market works between its own, but not very well between "partners" ... In Soviet times, nothing high-tech was tried at all do not sell, has something changed now? Why should they firstly make themselves a competitor, and secondly, it is deadly! We are not Chinese! we will not only copy but modify and make it much better! so on toe only chicken legs, apples, and iPhones, well, not the means of production.
    9. 0
      9 November 2015 12: 50
      They still need to be able to manage, drying is not a rollsroys, where everything for the idiot is maximally simplified.
    10. mvg
      -2
      9 November 2015 14: 27
      Is Shikoko worth Drying? And what is its price-effectiveness? Which no one checked. What does it do (Syria) do not play the Su-35S, but the old SU-24, which, at the moment, is more effective than the Su-34.
      The Su-35, in the bomber version, is even worse than the Su-34. They were promoted .. There are not quite araps-dolpoeps sitting there .. Although I am not too sure of the adequacy of our Middle Eastern "friends", they were idiots only of the wars with Israel. Now there are normal top managers ..
    11. 0
      9 November 2015 21: 31
      I don’t know what kind of PR you can get from the Arabs, including the Saudi Arabians, unless black, if their "super duper modernized" f-16s, if I am not mistaken, were shot down by the Houthis who have no air defense.
  2. +7
    9 November 2015 11: 13
    It would be best if they would be our ally in the fight against IS.
    1. +4
      9 November 2015 11: 23
      Look, we supplied weapons to them and the Saudis, they supply his own igil everything is logical and simple.)))))
  3. +5
    9 November 2015 11: 14
    Fuck them, not Our Drying !!!
  4. +18
    9 November 2015 11: 15
    anyway, that sold to the states
    1. +6
      9 November 2015 11: 36
      I absolutely agree.
      In pursuit of the green ruble, our mothers are ready to sell our mother.
      We give the best adversary the best we have. Not sure if this is correct.
      I agree that money for the development of factories and weapons is needed, that squeezing amers from the Arab arms market is not bad.
      But have we all calculated?
  5. +13
    9 November 2015 11: 15
    And these Su-35s do not get to the Saudis and the Americans? belay I don't want the US to be able to get acquainted with the "stuffing" of the 35th. Enough that the United States "visited" all MiGs from the 15th to the 29th, Su-27, S-300, the newest then T-80 from the countries of the former USSR and "allies" such as Anvar Sadat. The study of MiG-29s by NATO specialists helped them a lot in Iraq and Yugoslavia.
    1. +6
      9 November 2015 11: 37
      Quote: 0255
      And these Su-35s do not get to the Saudis and the Americans?

      certainly ...
  6. +7
    9 November 2015 11: 16
    I can feel how our pilots clenched their jaws again, skipping the "partners" in line ..
  7. +5
    9 November 2015 11: 17
    Why should we be raising another sponsor of the next IS in our armament? Our "geniuses" no longer know to whom to sell something, but give them money.
  8. +4
    9 November 2015 11: 18
    The UAE is not our allies, rather, on the contrary, I understand business as a business, but here the issue is military-political. I hope the drying will be in a stripped-down (export) version.
    1. +5
      9 November 2015 11: 21
      Nobody needs a stripped-down version, everyone wants the maximum configuration.
      1. 0
        9 November 2015 11: 26
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Nobody needs a stripped-down version, everyone wants the maximum configuration.

        Want is not harmful. Only in the 1990s, Russia exported MiGs and Dryers, superior to those in its Air Force, because Yeltsin did not want to sponsor the army, but had to survive.
        The US also sells its "F" for export in an export version with "deteriorated" avionics. Like the USSR before 1991.
  9. -1
    9 November 2015 11: 23
    A pair of ICBMs would be sent there, on their own, and not strengthen defense capabilities. Although I understand that having money from them is not bad either.
  10. +8
    9 November 2015 11: 24
    "Wonderful are your deeds, O Lord," to which the desire for profit can reach the Russian officials! Well, it’s necessary for the Air Force themselves to have a patch on a patch, so instead of equipping their own, they reinforce other people's Air Forces! These are the "patriots", Hitler could only dream of such a "fifth column"! And in fact, from what sources did the author take the idea of ​​the "independence" of the UAE, and are they not one of the faithful henchmen of the United States, especially in Iraq, but even more in Iran, and for some reason they did not treat Russia very well, especially in the Chechen conflict! I'm not vindictive, but I well remember all their nastiness in relation to Russia and just take evil after such hackers like this author! Yes, these ---- from the UAE are just waiting for the right moment to stick a knife in our back! I didn't expect this from anyone, but from Korotchenko ... Business is business, but it would be nice to have your own brains, not glued together from green American papers!
    1. +1
      9 November 2015 11: 31
      And let's ask the president what is the matter? Can they explain?
    2. +1
      9 November 2015 11: 36
      Here I am about that! As if our Su-30СМ and Su-34 would not have to conduct air battles with the Su-35.
      1. 0
        10 November 2015 01: 56
        I do not understand you. You need money to build yourself. So let the military-industrial complex earn. And build for yourself. There is PAKFA, all the more the Su-35 with "old" engines will go (the new one as I understand it during testing). Yes, and you can neutralize it at the airfield with Caliber (it was clearly demonstrated, since the UAE is a small state). And they will take no more than a regiment, I think even a squadron for "trial".
        Or let American or European Rafals with Eurofighter buy? For me personally, this is an indicator if the sworn allies of the West buy Sushki. So really the BEST. Anyone who says something wrong, then this example can be given as an argument. The rich Arabs, until the last moment, had all the military aircraft in the West — so why take Russian fighters — even they acknowledge that Su is better. hi
        And their jobs are more important than Western ones. It is necessary to increase capacities (including the civil sector) - but money is needed. And this contract is with nine zeros. That IL-114 is enough to put on the wing, but you never know where you can invest money on business!!?
        By the way, the Arab sheikhs love to define their offspring in aviation - an elite of the type.
  11. 0
    9 November 2015 11: 25
    MIG-21. M. Redfi, 1965
    MIG-25. V. Belenko, 1967
    MIG-29 A.Zuev, 1988
    21st Century Outside: Easier to Sell ...
    PS At the indicated time, these were the NEWEST developments!
    1. +4
      9 November 2015 11: 31
      Refdi hijacked Mig-21, and Belenko in 1976 and not 1967. Here is an interesting article about hijacking - http://rocketpolk44.narod.ru/stran/ulet.htm. It turns out that in the postwar years there were 9! cases of hijacking of Soviet combat aircraft.
    2. 0
      9 November 2015 19: 25
      Quote: knn54
      MIG-29 A.Zuev, 1988

      November 1989, XNUMX
  12. +5
    9 November 2015 11: 28
    The UAE and the SA are the main instigators of all wars in the BV and arming them is to show political myopia.
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  14. -1
    9 November 2015 11: 34
    Yeah, and by the time of delivery to the UAE, it will be necessary to develop an electronic warfare system to suppress the electronics of those Su-35 that will be delivered to the UAE and will be able to fight in Syria.
    The avionics of imported equipment are always different from those used in the RF Aerospace Forces. So that as soon as he crossed the border of Syria, everything was turned off at once under the influence of "Khibiny" or "Sayan" and he fell. And also, so that the catapult does not work ...
    1. +2
      9 November 2015 11: 43
      Does the Su-35 have an eW hinged container? Perhaps ours will sell only the plane (without EW), because if together with EW it will be completely stupid (potential enemies to sell modern electronics). You do not even need to add that this EW will immediately be at the disposal of the United States.
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  15. +1
    9 November 2015 11: 40
    It would be nice to modernize the Syrian Air Force, they are our allies for a long time!
  16. +2
    9 November 2015 11: 41
    SU-35 is a Soviet development, I look forward to aggressive comments from today's "hurray patriots"
    1. +1
      9 November 2015 11: 44
      Also, tell me, in the Russian Empire they came up with engines with a variable thrust vector Sovetskie- extravaganza of stupidity !!!
      1. +2
        9 November 2015 11: 50
        I’ll say that the current colonial Russia will not even create anything near ... And such praisers like Korotchenko are already tired
        1. -4
          9 November 2015 12: 14
          Fsepropalooo ... Whose colony are we?
          1. +4
            9 November 2015 12: 25
            US Federal Reserve Colony
            1. 0
              9 November 2015 14: 21
              US Federal Reserve Colony

              In this case, the whole world is a colony of the US Federal Reserve. The Chinese have even more of our securities invested in the Fed. Some comrades from our economic bloc are striving to turn Russia into a colony of the US Federal Reserve. But this does not mean that we are a colony. This means that the Putin government has something to work on!
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    3. -1
      9 November 2015 19: 32
      Quote: 35lisment35
      SU-35 is a Soviet development, I look forward to aggressive comments from today's "hurray patriots"

      T-10M (Su-27M) - yes. The first flight of 1988.
      T-10BM (Su-35BM) is rather a Russian development. The first flight of 2008. Here everything is described in detail http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/su35bm.html
  17. +3
    9 November 2015 11: 41
    It is a great mistake to supply such weapons to a country that is essentially unfriendly Russia ...
  18. +3
    9 November 2015 11: 43
    Firstly, the United States will in every way impede this contract and I think they will succeed.
    Secondly, the Saudis will launch political bargaining to understand what concessions Russia is ready to make in the Syrian problem.
    Thirdly, if a contract is nevertheless concluded, then all real LTH will be available to US specialists, who are likely to find vulnerabilities and develop effective methods to deal with new Russian fighters, which even in Russia are not in sufficient quantity.
    As a result, despite the flattering news for the Russian defense industry, the military potential and political positions of the Russian Federation in the Middle East can be seriously damaged.
    1. VP
      0
      9 November 2015 11: 55
      And what have the Saudis to do with it? UAE is actually a completely different country
  19. 0
    9 November 2015 11: 44
    I'm not sure, but maybe the quantitative staffing of the "spectrum of weapons" will be a deterrent that does not allow the use of dryers against friendly countries?
  20. +4
    9 November 2015 11: 44
    Quote: Alexey-74
    The UAE is not our allies, rather, on the contrary, I understand business as a business, but here the issue is military-political. I hope the drying will be in a stripped-down (export) version.

    Drying will be in the option chosen by the customer. At his request, they can supply any equipment, not necessarily of Russian production. So it’s quite possible that the export option will be even better. Enough to listen to Zadornov, not only fools live there behind the fence
  21. +1
    9 November 2015 11: 46
    Of course, our Air Force should be equipped with such machines. But do not forget that selling them abroad we at the expense of the buyer very well bring our aircraft.
    If we had not sold aircraft to China and India at one time, our Irkutsk and Komsomol aircraft plants would simply have bent, and the design bureau was the same.
    Money from a foreign customer allowed us to preserve the potential of factories and design bureaus, and as a result we now have Su-30SM, Su-35 and ...... hi
  22. +3
    9 November 2015 11: 48
    Korotchenko is such a Korotchenko
  23. +5
    9 November 2015 11: 51
    The plane is good, of course.

    But Qatar is one of the main sponsors of the Islamists
    in the Middle East, and in Europe.

    Will they require in exchange for a deal
    "relief" in Syria?
    1. +5
      9 November 2015 11: 54
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The plane is good, of course.

      But Qatar is one of the main sponsors of the Islamists
      in the Middle East, and in Europe.

      Will they require in exchange for a deal
      "relief" in Syria?

      Qatar Air Force take part in the western coalition. the Qatar bombardment of Assad’s troops is quite possible.
      1. +1
        9 November 2015 12: 01
        By the way, there is an opinion that Saudi Arabs, and not just Iran, are just waiting for the moment that would flare up in Israel.
        I think that in this vein it is necessary to use all the possibilities in order not to turn the territory of Syria (and not only) into a bacchanal of uncontrolled IS cutthroats.
      2. +1
        9 November 2015 12: 11
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The plane is good, of course.

        But Qatar is one of the main sponsors of the Islamists
        in the Middle East, and in Europe.

        Will they require in exchange for a deal
        "relief" in Syria?

        Qatar Air Force take part in the western coalition. the Qatar bombardment of Assad’s troops is quite possible.

        Dumb it is now - Assad’s troops to bomb. bully
        If you haven’t bothered before, now it is all the more unlikely. Do you think ours will be sorted out who they are attacking: ours or the Syrians? winked
        Moreover, if you start attacking the aircraft of Qatar ...
        Here and in the teeth - or on the airfield from which this plane climbed - you can get. Yes
        It is about this - or rather, so that this does not happen - and they agreed: with Israel, and with Turkey, and with the United States, that is, with the rest of the "coalition" countries.
  24. VP
    +3
    9 November 2015 11: 52
    The most powerful are not those who have more modern technology. This is nothing more than a measurement of the length of pipettes.
    The strongest are those with the most intelligent organization and interaction. And then they will reach Israel will not be easy.
  25. +5
    9 November 2015 11: 55
    It continues to amaze me how adults seem to be led to a deliberate lie. You can say anything, even that Germany is negotiating the purchase of the Su-35, and then completely forget what you said or say that everything fell through because of the intrigues of "you know who." Thus, the price is piled up, and the cheeks become wider because of the importance, because the trend is not tossing bags.

    Any contract for the purchase of something can be considered probable only when the buyer himself declares this.
  26. +2
    9 November 2015 12: 00
    UAE is not Saudi Arabia. Here the game is a win-win. The Su 35 is an export fighter; others will want it too.
    Release will need to increase. Additional funds will appear for the modernization of production, and for their aircraft.
  27. +1
    9 November 2015 12: 07
    And why not the words on the supply of su-35 to Indonesia? One of the largest contracts at the exhibition
    1. 0
      9 November 2015 19: 38
      Quote: Xroft
      And why not the words on the supply of su-35 to Indonesia? One of the largest contracts at the exhibition

      There are no shipments of these aircraft to Indonesia, and there will be
      http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1559642.html
  28. mvg
    0
    9 November 2015 12: 15
    Again "we do not have enough" ... Gentlemen, oil is no longer at $ 200 per barrel, but at $ 49 .. We can well return to the times of EBN, when it was 18 and ate the "Chinese wall" in banks. Currency is needed. There will be nothing bad if the factories in Irkutsk and Komsomolsk start working in 3 shifts .. Stopudoff, they will only be glad there. Su-35 is not a panacea. Not a bad air fighter, nothing more. NOTHING better than the Typhoons of the Saudis and the F-15I of the Jews. Just take a look at the performance characteristics with sober eyes. In general, Brits put their Typhoons higher than Dryers as 1 to 3 ..
    As an air-to-surface fighter, in general, so far, no .. What kind of anti-ship missiles does Drying wear? Yakhont, Brahmos? No, I haven’t met .. Maybe he can use KABs? Or "HARMs"? I haven’t met either.
    And what% of successfully released R-73E. At least for Africa, the numbers .. Just read: 2 rockets were launched, they didn’t hit ... crying
    Sniff, the more, the better, and up to the tonsils. So that they "got hooked" on our equipment and "milk, milk and milk this cow" !!!!!!
  29. +2
    9 November 2015 12: 16
    will not get the UAE Su-35 no one will sell them now! Whatever anyone says!
  30. +1
    9 November 2015 12: 36
    Well, having such an aircraft in service and being able to use its capabilities is not the same thing. There must be a good school in pilot training. In the UAE, of course, there is money, maybe they will master it. When I just started to fly, my old grandfather was on a simulator, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, shared his experience and always said: “The piloting technique is just a free application for combat use! . " I remember with gratitude and respect.
  31. 0
    9 November 2015 12: 40
    well, if they want to "earn extra money ..." wassat And then there are our "TOPOL" and S 400, and ISKANDERS, and also the nuclear submarine laughing hundred little things .... fool wassat I don’t even want to discuss ... WHAT will happen next what laughing
    1. mvg
      0
      9 November 2015 13: 29
      Bullshit does not need to draw. ICBMs are not for sale, S-400, but for God's sake, this is a defensive weapon, what does it threaten with? So that we can’t bomb Bahrain? Do we need it? Iskander only to the elite .. and in the version up to 500 km, it’s easy .. And don’t have to discuss anything .. Everything that is produced is sold, just give as much as I want ... You have never been and will not be an entrepreneur, this is for you not given. Believe me, this is difficult.
      PS: That we will not sell, they will sell arrogant Saxons .. no worse ... that's all .. and they will take a penny from us, or even a ruble. Nothing personal just business.
  32. 0
    9 November 2015 13: 04
    Development money is good, but ears need to be kept sharp.
  33. +2
    9 November 2015 13: 12
    How many Su-35s are in the Russian Air Force? How many do we need? How many can we build them per year? Where is the guarantee that Sushi will not be used against us and our allies? Will the new Dryer get to the naglosaks? We recall the talk of selling Escanders, selling the S-400, disrupting the supply of new weapons to the Russian Armed Forces. We don’t know something, or are they selling us wholesale and retail?
  34. +2
    9 November 2015 14: 57
    Then if you approach wisely:
    - According to the Indian principle, supply with French electronics.
    - With bookmarks that allow you to partially or completely shut off the machine remotely
    - The USA has long been drying thanks to the Ukrainians. There is nothing new in the airframe, in the UVT engines, I don’t know how critical it is to transmit.

    The Su-35 should not have brakes in export, a 4 ++ aircraft, albeit a good one. let there be 4 ++++ in our Air Force. But this is a plane of the last generation and after 10 years it will not be bought. The F-35, the Japanese fighter, will enter the market, the PAK FA will be on the wing, I hope we will grow together with the light 5th generation. And countries with 4th generation aircraft can only fight with each other.
  35. +2
    9 November 2015 15: 00
    They went to the roof, sell SU35, even an export option to our potential enemies? Americans will dismantle it in the cogs and will train in parts of the party how to deal with it more effectively. To sell the Su35 to the Arabs is to undermine the defense of our country.
  36. +2
    9 November 2015 15: 56
    It's funny, and we wave yours and ours, if only they would pay.)
  37. +1
    9 November 2015 16: 33
    completely crazy to sell weapons to these bastards
  38. 0
    9 November 2015 18: 21
    Either they foam at the mouth that we are a raw material appendage, then they sprinkle ashes that we sell a high-tech product to "adversaries". To the hard workers who work for miserable salaries, flee from factories and work in TAXI, explain why we do not need to sell to all "adversaries". The United States is not steaming, all weapons are sold to the left to the right and enemies and friends, and their military-industrial complex only swells and is able to produce weapons many times faster and more massively than our PIECE combat units, due to a huge package of orders. If suddenly orders fall, they are again in the middle of local conflicts somewhere, and they are promoting the demand for their equipment. There will be export orders, it is possible to increase the workshops, and without a hole in the budget, the machine park can be re-equipped. The last generation of specialists is living out, soon there will be no one to train and work! Let our guys earn money, at least they can restore the prestige of the engineering profession, where they can work and at least feed their family. Or do you propose to go there as a monk to get a haircut, and for a crust of bread with the holy spirit? The main thing is that specialists and factories under our steam will have already worked out technological chains at the expense of EXPORT customers! And of course you also need yourself, but at the same time and in any case with mass production, the cost price will come out less, you see, it will do without holes in the budget and strikes of impoverished "pensioners and state employees."
  39. +1
    9 November 2015 18: 49
    Ah, around the huckster! Ay, how can this be! Ah ah ah!!! And whose signature is under the final verdict, approved? Whose, I ask you? ... That's just it ...
  40. +3
    9 November 2015 19: 10
    Quote: Baikonur
    Well, firstly, we are definitely not stupid and take this into account! Weapon options are delivered without an advanced solution! Those. what we already have an anti-reaction to!
    Secondly - money for further modernization, development! in a word - on the progress of the military-industrial complex!

    Thirdly, aircraft without the infrastructure under which it was created lose in their effectiveness. winked
  41. -1
    9 November 2015 20: 44
    Every time there is some kind of export contract for the supply of our weapons, or even just talking about possible contracts - right there in all forums such an angry scream rises that it becomes funny. Interestingly, the Americans are also so indignant when their government sells weapons?
    Now for the Su-35. So far, there is not a single concluded contract, moreover, there is not a single export sample! It will be built next year, after modifying one of the previously produced serial aircraft. Then the tests, which are unlikely to be easy and quick, considering how "our" dryers are tested. Talking about the UAE, I think, is wishful thinking. It's the same story with Indonesia. The only real customer is the PRC, and even then the contract has not been signed.
    Well, for production until 2020 (preliminary plan):
    2016 - 0309-0318 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 0319-0402 for the PRC, 0403-0406 - other exports
    2017 - 0407-0416 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 0417-0506 for the PRC, 0507-0510 - other exports.
    2018 - 0511-0520 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 0601-0610 for the PRC, 0611-0614 - other exports.
    2019 - 0615-0704 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 0705-0712 for export.
    2020 - 0713-0802 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, 0803-0810 for export.

    As you can see, potentially our Air Force may receive additional 50 new dryers. But for today it’s possible to talk about iron 20. Further purchases will depend on the financing of the Ministry of Defense, but if there is export, there will be purchases ...