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Ban flights to Egypt. What happened to the plane and what awaits the Russian tourist business?

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31 October 2015 was a major plane crash over the Sinai Peninsula. The 9268 Airbus A321 flight, owned by the Russian company Kogalymavia and flying from Egypt to Russia, to St. Petersburg, almost twenty minutes after departure from the Egyptian airport Sharm el-Sheikh disappeared from radar screens. Later, rescue services discovered the wreckage of an aircraft in the Sinai Peninsula. Killed 224 people, including 217 passengers and 7 aircraft crew members. Among the dead were 17 children. The next day after the plane crash, 1 November 2015, was declared a day of mourning in the Russian Federation. After all, it was one of the largest catastrophes in modern Russian stories.


Ban flights to Egypt. What happened to the plane and what awaits the Russian tourist business?

Photo: TASS / Maxim Grigoriev

The exact causes of the disaster are not yet known.

Note that today there is no exact certainty about what caused the plane crash. According to the initial data, which were disseminated by the media, the cause could be a technical malfunction, since the crew of the aircraft seemed to complain about the malfunction a week before the last flight. However, later information began to appear that the plane could have died as a result of a terrorist act. And this is despite the fact that the head of the Egyptian commission for the investigation of the plane crash, Ayman al-Muqaddam, said that so far the special services have not been able to establish the true causes of the plane crash, since not all the debris were found. However, the head of the commission said that the black box of the aircraft recorded a suspicious noise. But so far it is impossible to say for sure whether this noise was caused by an explosion on board the aircraft or not. However, the French television channel France 2, referring to an Egyptian investigator who had access to the investigation of the crash, reported that an explosion occurred on board the aircraft, which was clearly not related to engine failure or any other technical problems. Thus, the channel said that in fact the plane was blown up, which may indicate a possible terrorist act against air transport.

Unstable Sinai

Who could benefit from a terrorist act against a civilian plane carrying absolutely peaceful people - Russian tourists, rested at the resorts of Egypt and returned to their homeland? First of all, suspicions fall on the Islamic State terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation in accordance with a court decision, especially since in recent days the Western media regularly report that the Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the attack . The territory over which the liner crashed, according to media reports, is the zone of the anti-terrorist operation of the Egyptian armed forces against the group calling itself the "Sinai Province of the Islamic State."

The unstable situation in the Sinai Peninsula is due to a whole set of historical, political, cultural and economic factors. First, the Sinai Peninsula has always been characterized by economic backwardness and the unsatisfactory, low standard of living of the local population resulting from it. Secondly, the population of the Sinai Peninsula has a number of cultural differences from the population of the main part of Egypt. These are Palestinians, including refugees from the Palestinian state, and Bedouins. These population groups have always been distinguished by increased susceptibility to various radical ideas, especially against the background of the general socio-economic backwardness of the region and the lack of prospects for young people. Unlike the rest of the Egyptians, the inhabitants of the Sinai Peninsula are practically unrelated to the tourist business. The absence of tourist facilities in almost the entire Sinai Peninsula (except for its south) also makes it impossible for local residents to work in the tourism sector. Meanwhile, for young Egyptians, there is practically no other possibility of a real improvement in their well-being, except to get a job in the tourist sector. Sinai youth do not have this opportunity either. Accordingly, their well-being is not directly related to the presence or absence of foreign tourists, so they are rather indifferent to maintaining stability in the region. But, the inhabitants of Sinai were never alien to criminal activity, which was to control trade routes and smuggling. They did not disdain and robberies. The Bedouin clans of the Sinai Peninsula traditionally controlled the smuggling of various goods, including illegal ones. Naturally, the social environment of the Sinai Peninsula was quite fertile ground for the spread of radical sentiment and, moreover, for the revitalization of extremist activity. Radicals have always viewed the Sinai Peninsula as a strategically convenient region, especially paying attention to its importance for terrorist attacks against neighboring Israel. Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the fact that it was the Sinai Peninsula that became the site of the presence of a large number of radicals. Moreover, the Egyptian law enforcement agencies have always poorly controlled this desert territory. By the way, in the specificity of the socio-economic and political situation of the Sinai Peninsula there is a certain degree of guilt of the Egyptian leadership, which has never shown proper attention to the development of this peripheral territory and questions of organizing life and improving the well-being of its population.



The armed conflict on the Sinai Peninsula began as early as 2011, when, as a result of the Arab Spring, hundreds of religious radicals released from Egyptian prisons rushed there, forming a local unit of the Islamic State and a number of other radical groups. It should be noted that the number of groups is very large, and their activities are decentralized. It is known that armed groups of the following radical organizations are present on the Sinai Peninsula: 1) Vilayat Sinai (branch of the Islamic State, established on the basis of the radical organization Ansair Bayt al-McDhas), 2) Al-Qaida, 3 ) “Al-Jihad”, 4) “At-Takfir Wal Hijra”, 5) “Jaish al-Islam”, 5) “Jund al-Islam”, 6) “Supporters of Jundallah”, 7) “Shabab al- Islam ”, 8)“ Ansar al-Sharia ”, 9)“ Tauhid v-Jihad ”, 10)“ Council of the Mujahideen Shuras ”, 11)“ Majlis Shura al-Mujahidin fi-Aknaf Bayt al-Makdas ”, XNUM X) “The army of al-Jaljal”, 12) “Salafi jihad at Sinai”, 13) “Muslim Brotherhood”. In addition, the bases of the famous Hamas movement, which until recently had good relations with the Egyptian leadership, were located on the Sinai Peninsula for a long time. Hamas as a more serious political movement has repeatedly appealed to the Egyptian leadership to address the socio-economic problems of the region, but did not receive the proper response. In recent years, the relationship between Hamas and the Egyptian authorities has deteriorated, since the latter accused the organization of assisting terrorist groups and in cooperating with extremist organizations in Egypt.

The bulk of the militants of the radical groups operating in the Sinai Peninsula are local Bedouins and Palestinians, as well as people from Libya and Yemen who have moved to Sinai. Extremist activity is most active in the sparsely populated areas of Central and Northern Sinai. Here, militants of radical groups have dug a large number of underground tunnels and shelters, which are used for smuggling weapons from Gaza to Egypt, as well as shelters. The tunnels are pulled out of abandoned houses, but the Egyptian troops periodically destroy the underground structures of the militants, so the latter will have to build new underground communications.
Despite the fact that the fighting has been going on for four years, Egyptian government troops are not yet able to suppress the resistance of radical groups. This is due to the fact that for a long time, according to the Camp David Agreement, Egypt could deploy only very limited army units in the Sinai Peninsula. Only on August 14, 2011, after a sharp complication of the situation in the Middle East, did the leadership of Egypt obtain permission from neighboring Israel to enter the Sinai Peninsula with additional military units tasked with destroying the local radical underground. In the Sinai, there are constant battles between radicals and Egyptian government forces, using armored vehicles and aviation. Back in March 2015, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration announced the danger of flying over the Sinai Peninsula, where radicals are fighting with Egyptian government troops. According to this statement, flights at altitudes below 26000 feet are the most dangerous, since at this distance aircraft of foreign airlines can become a target for hitting anti-aircraft missile systems of radical groups. Later, the European Aviation Safety Agency made a similar statement. At the same time, it is known that the Russian airliner flew at a high altitude, and the militants fighting in Sinai, according to intelligence agencies, do not have the necessary weapons to hit targets at that altitude.

The version of the attack is very common

Another thing is that on board the aircraft at Sharm el-Sheikh airport could be brought explosives, as well as among the passengers could be a suicide bomber. Moreover, religious-extremist groups often use just such a method of destroying aircraft. Recall that in 2004, two Russian aircraft were blown up with the help of suicide bombers who got on board. It is quite likely that the Islamic State could have carried out a similar operation, especially considering that in the ranks of this organization there are a large number of men and women who are ready to play the role of suicide bombers. The fact that the responsibility for the attack took the Egyptian branch of the IG, reported AFP. Indeed, it is impossible to dismiss this version, especially since the IG, after the start of the Russian military-air operation in Syria, has every reason to hold a grudge against the Russian state and bear plans for terrible revenge. The aerospace forces of the Russian Federation, which strike at the positions of IS militants and other radical groups in Syria, do indeed cause serious damage to this terrorist organization. It is known that immediately after the announcement of the crash of a Russian airliner in the sky over the Sinai Peninsula, the largest European airlines Air France and Luftansa announced the termination of flights of their vehicles over the Sinai Peninsula, explaining this decision by flight safety considerations. Although European airlines do not close the air communication with Egypt yet, but its routes, and possibly the intensity, will undergo serious changes after the crash of the Russian airliner.



Investigating the possible causes of the crash of a Russian airliner, a number of European media paid close attention to the specifics of organizing security measures at airports in Egypt and, in particular, at the airport of Sharm el-Sheikh, from where a Kogalymavia aircraft flew on its last flight. As the journalists of the Associated Press reported, airport staff told them that they had repeatedly drawn attention to the malfunction of the passenger baggage scanning device, but the airport managers did not attach any importance to these messages. It also became known that the baggage scanning process was carried out selectively, and many bags and suitcases were not scanned. Note - and this is in conditions of increased danger of terrorist attacks in the countries of the Middle East! In addition, one of the airport employees told reporters that the police, who were supposed to directly ensure the safety of the airport, took bribes from passengers and let them pass on planes with weapons and drugs. Similarly, due diligence of fuel and food delivered to the airport for departing flights, as well as inspection of people involved in the delivery of fuel and food, was not carried out. Another Western publication, the British The Independent, reported that although there was video surveillance at the airport, the security officer who was carrying it out could have been completely absent from the workplace, which made it possible to carry any items without control. Also, according to the publication, some of the surveillance cameras at Sharm el-Sheikh simply did not work. Therefore, with such a level of security organization at the airport, there is nothing surprising in the fact that intruders could infiltrate the plane and activate any terrible plan. If the data of this investigation are true, then many questions arise to the leadership of the Egyptian law enforcement and security services who have served at Sharm el-Sheikh airport.

The fact that the Russian plane could become the object of a terrorist attack by one of the radical groups, despite the absence of official statements about it, was reported by many Western media. But their interest in the version of the terrorist act is quite explicable by political considerations. After all, the West is interested in stopping the Russian operation in Syria, and promotion of the version of the terrorist act, as certain political circles of the United States and the European Union expect, can contribute to changing the position of Russia on the Syrian issue. At least in Russia, public opinion may rise against the participation of the Russian air force in a campaign against radical groups in Syria. Secondly, Russia will inevitably have, in this case, questions to the Egyptian side, and the Russian Federation has very good relations with Egypt lately. They are based, among other things, on economic cooperation between the two states. The Russian Federation is the most important partner of the Egyptian side in the field of tourism business, since it is Russian tourists that make up a significant part of foreign citizens visiting Egypt for tourist purposes. Only in the current 2015 year, at least two million Russian citizens have visited the resorts of Egypt. For many Russians, Egypt has long been a major holiday destination, eclipsing other resorts in popularity. The demand for Egyptian tours especially increased with the onset of currency inflation and the deteriorating financial situation of many Russian families, who now were unable to organize their holidays at more expensive resorts in South and Southeast Asia or the Caribbean.

Flights to Egypt stopped

The development of Russian-Egyptian tourist ties began in the 1990-s. The relative popularity of the Egyptian resorts, combined with the rich history of the “country of the pyramids” and excellent beaches, which ensured the interest of Russian tourists, contributed to the growing popularity. Even the events of the “Arab Spring” 2011, when the internal political situation in Egypt was seriously aggravated, did not cause the cessation of the demand for Egyptian resorts among Russian tourists. It is understandable - on the cheap rest with Egypt can compete, perhaps, Turkey. But Turkey is still a subtropical country, which means that with the onset of autumn, the climatic conditions in the Turkish resorts do not contribute to beach rest. At least, for those people who love a hot vacation in the sun, with a sea tan and unforgettable impressions of bathing in the warm sea. Violation of the tourist interaction between Russia and Egypt is a serious blow to both the domestic tourism business and the Egyptian economy. However, it is difficult to disagree with the fact that if the lives of Russian citizens are at stake, a temporary suspension of tourist ties with Egypt will simply be necessary to ensure the national security of the Russian state.
6 November it became known that President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee agreed with the opinion of its Chairman and Director of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation Alexander Bortnikov on the temporary suspension of all flights of Russian aircraft to Egypt. At a meeting of the NJSC, Bortnikov stated that it is advisable to suspend flights of Russian aviation to Egypt until the true causes of the tragedy have been established. Naturally, the first flight will be terminated for tourist purposes. The head of state agreed with the opinion of the head of the special services and ordered the government to work out the mechanisms necessary for the implementation of the recommendations of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee. In addition to the termination of the aviation communication with Egypt, an instruction was given to ensure the return to the homeland of citizens of the Russian Federation residing in the territory of this country. At the same time, the head of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee stressed that the work on the return of Russian citizens in Egypt should be carried out carefully and the time required for its full implementation. It was also noted that the Egyptian side is doing everything possible to provide assistance in investigating the circumstances of the plane crash over Sinai.

In the Federal Air Transport Agency reported that the agency began work on the suspension of aviation links with Egypt. From 20.00 on Friday 6 in November 2015, the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation interrupted aviation communication with Egypt. All scheduled, transit and charter flights to Egypt were banned, and telegrams were sent to all nine Russian airlines flying to Egypt and to all twenty airports that received and sent airplanes to the “country of pyramids”. Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government Arkady Dvorkovich said that ““ it’s still premature to call specific dates. The work of auditing and developing security controls begins today. In any case, we are talking about a period of at least several weeks, but how many weeks, it is too early to say. We will work together with our Egyptian partners "(Quoted from: http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/11/08/n_7861781.shtml). Thus, the flight connection with Egypt is interrupted for a really impressive period and this cannot but remain without consequences for both Egypt and the Russian Federation. Therefore, we will take a closer look at the question of how this decision of the Russian leadership will affect the current state and development prospects of the Russian tourist business.

Implications for Russian tourism

The “lowest” level of the consequences of this decision has already been felt by consumers - Russian tourists who are resting in Egypt or were going to rest in this country in the near future. On instructions from the Russian leadership, a special operational headquarters for the return of Russian tourists to their homeland was immediately formed in the “Rosturizm”. The structure of this structure included not only officials, but also representatives of the largest travel companies in the country and the Association "Tourist Assistance". This was reported to the representatives of the media by the head of Rostourism, Oleg Safonov. It is known that by the beginning of November 2015 in the resorts of Egypt there were at least 70 thousands of citizens of the Russian Federation. These figures are called journalists in the Association of Tour Operators of Russia. Rostourism announced 79 to thousands of Russian tourists in Egyptian resorts. It is clear that taking so many tourists from Egypt to Russia will not work in a short time. For this task it is necessary to use a large number of air transport and flight personnel. Naturally, the solution of such a large-scale task will require at least a month. On the other hand, the question of compensation for those tourists who have not fully used their vouchers will inevitably be raised. After all, people went to rest for ten, twenty days, and they were evacuated from Egypt after a few days of rest — naturally, many of the tourists would demand compensation from the travel companies. In a similar situation, there were also Russian citizens who had already purchased vouchers to rest in Egypt - before the time when the plane crash occurred in the sky over Sinai. Before the flight connection with Egypt was interrupted, many Russians had already managed to buy tickets and arrive at the airports. Moreover, some of them came from far away - say, from Siberian or Ural settlements to Moscow and other cities of the European part of Russia. Of course, Russian tour operators and responsible government agencies will decide whether to place and transport them back home, or provide tours to other countries of the world, but also, as in the first case, the question of compensation, material and moral damage will inevitably arise. To this end, by the way, in the regions of the country from which the flight to Egypt was carried out, hotlines of the Russian Emergencies Ministry and Rospotrebnadzor are operating. According to Irina Tyurina, who is the press secretary of the Russian Union of Travel Industry (PCT), Russian citizens who decided not to change their country of rest can realize their unused vouchers to Egypt for a year. However, as it turned out, about 20-30% of Russian tourists have already agreed to go instead of Egypt to some other country. Such figures were voiced by the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government, Arkady Dvorkovich.



A more serious problem is the loss of the Russian tourist business of colossal revenues from tourist flights to Egypt. As noted above, Egypt, along with Turkey, was one of the most popular destinations for Russian tourists. Even the financial problems of the Russians and the exacerbation of the political situation in the Middle East did not entail a sharp reduction in the number of tourists heading for Egypt. So, according to the Federal Tourism Agency, only in the first six months of the 2015 of the year 1,054 million Russians visited Egypt, which is 13,4% less than in the same period last year. In Turkey, there was a decrease in the number of tourists by 25,7% - that is, almost two times more than in Egypt. As a result, in Turkey for the first six months 2015 was visited by only 1, 031 million Russian citizens. That is, Egypt turned out to be this year even more attractive place for the rest of Russian citizens than Turkey, which has always kept a palm on the number of tourist trips. Egypt accounted for a huge market volume of travel vouchers, which amounted to about 140 million US dollars monthly. And this is despite the fact that, in general, Egypt remained the most affordable holiday destination for Russian citizens. Replacing the resorts of Egypt at least approximately cheap and suitable for climatic conditions will be very problematic. First of all, because Egypt was the most popular budget place for winter recreation. In November - December of each year, the demand for trips to Egypt increased as much as possible, since people went to rest on the Red Sea beaches, as in Turkey and Cyprus, not to mention the Russian Black Sea or Crimean resorts, the beach holiday at this time of year The form was impossible.

Is there a substitute for Egyptian resorts?

Theoretically, you can replace Egypt with the sea resorts of Israel and Jordan, however, we note that, firstly, this is the same direction of flights, the same unstable Middle East. Secondly, the cost of travel vouchers to Israel will definitely be more expensive than to Egypt, and as for Jordan, its tourist infrastructure cannot be compared with the Egyptian one. Another direction of the Russian winter beach holiday is the countries of South and Southeast Asia. Traditionally, a large number of Russian tourists also traveled to Goa (India), Thailand and Bali (Indonesia), but the cost of trips to resorts in Southeast and South Asia is much more expensive than in Egypt. Actually, people of greater affluence flew to Thailand or Indonesia to rest than to Egypt or Turkey. Therefore, it is unlikely that those who rested in Egypt will be able, without significant financial expenses for their family budget, to change the place of rest for the expensive resorts of Southeast and South Asia. About the Caribbean countries and the islands of the Pacific Ocean, where there are also beautiful beaches for rest, you can not even say - the price of rest there has never been "elevated" for the average Russian who could afford a vacation in Egypt or Turkey. Therefore, now the Russian tour operators offer tourists, flying to Egypt, to change at minimal cost, or even without it, trips, choosing Turkey or Cyprus as a holiday destination. But many citizens refuse to fly to these countries, as they counted on the hot climate of the Red Sea beaches, and not on the Mediterranean temperature in 18-22 degrees. But if the ban on aviation with Egypt will last for several months, then the Russians will have no choice but to look for other options for the autumn and winter holidays.

How could the ban on air travel with Egypt affect the Russian tourist cluster? In recent years, much has been said about the fact that domestic resorts, provided they reach a new level of service, may in the long run replace holidays abroad. First of all, we are talking about the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, and from 2014 - and the Crimea. Improving the tourism infrastructure can raise the level of Russian resorts, although so far many of them remain almost more expensive than foreign resorts - and this despite the fact that the quality of service is often inferior abroad. But it is also obvious that the Crimean and Caucasian coast is not able to replace foreign resorts in organizing a winter beach holiday. Most of the Caucasian and Crimean resorts in winter actually cease to operate. The exceptions are ski resorts, which also attract a large number of tourists. But, first, the category of tourists - lovers of mountain recreation and lovers of beach holiday is somewhat different. These categories do not always overlap, so many beach lovers will never accept the offer to go to mountain resorts instead of beach ones. Secondly, the majority of Russian travel companies will not be able to quickly adapt to the organization of recreation in the mountains, especially since this market niche is also occupied by other companies. Therefore, we should not seriously consider the idea of ​​replacing rest on Egyptian beaches with a vacation in the mountains of the Crimea and the Caucasus. Equally, they will not be able to cover the costs of travel companies and tours of the Golden Ring and other attractions of Central Russia, the Urals, Siberia, and the Far East. Of course, much depends on the advertising of travel companies and on the effectiveness of their activities in changing tourist destinations.
Meanwhile, the decline in travel company profits from travel to Egypt is a serious blow to their income, which will inevitably affect people working in this field, many of whom, even for a short time, may simply lose their jobs. Finally, significant funds from travel companies remained in Egypt - from the hotel business, and also in Russia - from airlines.

The question of whether it will be possible to achieve at least a part of these funds or not will be very debatable. Another serious problem is the relationship with Egypt. Recall that back in 2011, as a result of the events of the “Arab Spring” and the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak, the Russian Federation was forced to temporarily interrupt the air communication with Egypt. 1 February 2011 Russian airlines Transaero and Aeroflot stopped their air communication with Egyptian airports in Hurghada and Sharm el-Sheikh. Somewhat later, it was announced - in accordance with the requirements of Rostourism - about the complete cessation of aviation communication with Egyptian resorts. However, this measure did not last long. Already in early April, the aviation link with Hurghada and Sharm el-Sheikh was gradually restored. The company Pegas Touristik was the first to restore communication with Egyptian resorts in the form of charter flights. However, in 2013, the flight connection with Egypt was again partially discontinued. This time, the Russian airlines stopped delivering tourists to Egyptian resorts because of the sharp exacerbation of the political situation in the country - as you know, in September 2013, there were armed clashes between the government forces of Egypt and supporters of the deposed president Mohammed Mursi. At the end of August 2013, the Russian tour operators stopped selling vouchers to Egypt with departure after 1 September 2013, but in October 2013, the air communication with the Egyptian resorts was resumed. However, the reasons for the termination of aviation communication with the Egyptian resorts in 2011 and 2013. were not as serious as in 2015. Now, it seems, the leadership of the Russian Federation decided to stop flights to Egypt precisely for security reasons of many thousands of Russians.

Ban on flights in the light of Russian-Egyptian relations

Egyptian authorities have already expressed concern about the consequences of a plane crash of a Russian aircraft for the country's tourism business. This was stated by the spokesman for the Ministry of Tourism of Egypt Rush Azizi. For Egypt, tourism is the most important source of income in foreign currency to the country's budget. The economy of Egypt, due to the political situation in the country which had been destabilized over the past five years, was severely damaged. Since the days of the Arab Spring, many foreign tourists have refused to go to Egypt, fearing for their safety and preferring other, calmer countries. However, Russian tourists until recently accounted for a third of all foreign tourists who visited Egyptian resorts, primarily because of the cheapness of the latter and their promotion in Russia. So, in 2014, Egypt was visited by 9,9 million foreign tourists, of whom about a third were citizens of the Russian Federation. Thus, the ban on aviation links with Egypt will deprive the Egyptian tourism sector of the income from millions of Russian tourists. Especially if we take into account that it was the autumn and winter months that were in the greatest demand among Russian tourists, and thanks to the autumn-winter flights, the Egyptian budget received significant financial replenishment, and Russian travel companies significantly expanded their revenues.



At the same time, it is highly unlikely that Egyptian-Russian relations will deteriorate due to the termination of the air traffic. The fact is that under the current Egyptian President Field Marshal Abudl-Fattah Khalil Al-Sisi, Russian-Egyptian relations have seriously improved. Field Marshal Sisi visited the Victory Parade in Moscow 9 in May 2015, while many foreign leaders, in the context of sanctions against Russia, refused to go to festive events. Russia is developing and deepening military, political and economic cooperation with Egypt, so the Egyptian leadership fully understands the reasons that prompted Moscow to announce the termination of its air service. Naturally, the Egyptian authorities will regret this decision, but Cairo has no other way out. According to representatives of the Russian leadership, the Egyptian authorities are taking the most effective part in the evacuation of Russian citizens from the country. In particular, the control over the airports from which the evacuation is carried out is taken by representatives of the Egyptian military. Thus, Deputy Prime Minister A. Dvorkovich said: “Our Egyptian friends have already taken the first steps, the military have already taken control of all passenger clearance procedures, they are present in Sharm el-Sheikh and other airports and minimize uncontrolled actions, which, judging in the opinion of tourists, previously present at a number of airports, we see the goodwill of our friends, our colleagues to minimize all such incidents, to eliminate threats to the safety of life and health of people ”(Quoted from: http://tass.ru/obschestvo/2415837). It is likely that the cessation of the flow of Russian tourists to Egypt will also contribute to the intensification of the efforts of the country's military authorities to combat radical groups, whose actions can seriously damage the economic and political interests of the Egyptian state.
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  1. ImPerts
    ImPerts 9 November 2015 07: 27 New
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    I hope that all these actions will result in putting things in order. Both inside the tourism industry in Russia and in countries where our compatriots rest.
    We would have put things in order on the borders of Russia, otherwise many Aidarites are hanging around, God forbid, they will show us the victims of the coup ...
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    2. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 9 November 2015 08: 45 New
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      ... in recent days, the Western media regularly report that the Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the attack.
      - Western media will write something else. And "ISIS" admits its guilt in any incident where the Russians died for two reasons: 1 - to take revenge, at least in words, for the successful actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria, 2 - to attract attention by saying how cool we are, that we are not we are afraid to fight the Russians (even if they are unarmed and peaceful tourists, the main thing is that they are Russians). The position of the Western media in relation to this tragedy is fully reflected by the ever-memorable marginal magazine "Charlie Hebdo" with its cartoons - these poor in spirit in such an unpretentious way express their protest against the strengthening positions of Russia in the world, for them every bast is in line. Who else but I was always surprised by the desire of fellow citizens to go on vacation abroad - you might think that frying in the sun somewhere in Turkey, Thailand, the same Egypt, devouring local cuisine is the ultimate dream of an average Russian, Kazakhstani, etc. You might think there is nowhere to rest in Russia - after all, there are a lot of beautiful places, there are natural beauty and historical monuments (Baikal, Seliger, "Golden Ring", Karelia, North Caucasus - the list goes on and on). And with the return of Crimea, their number only increased. Another thing is that it is necessary to put things in order in the tourism business and raise the level of service to foreign standards, to which spoiled tourists have already got used to. And the prices need to be brought into a divine form - otherwise it's ridiculous to say that rest in Turkey is much cheaper than in Crimea or Sochi, even taking into account transportation costs.
      I have the honor.
      1. Nekarmadlen
        Nekarmadlen 9 November 2015 12: 04 New
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        If you have the opportunity to go to sea for relaxation in early spring or late autumn, it is better to imagine something better than Egypt (in terms of price - quality) ... If you are interested, look at the weather sites what is the current weather in Hurghada)))))
        1. Ramzaj99
          Ramzaj99 9 November 2015 17: 30 New
          +4
          It's amazing that no one remembers John Kerry's words. When the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces had just begun in Syria, he said in one of his interviews "If the Russians continue their operation in Syria, their civilian planes will begin to serve" - ​​this is, by the way, a quote !!!! And the terrorist attack was committed (it is already clear that it was a terrorist attack), the same guys from the "moderate opposition", in other words, the CIA officers !!
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 9 November 2015 20: 20 New
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            ISRAEL did not transmit data to the Russian Federation, with information about who was involved in the plane crash over Sinai. And it was done purposefully. Israeli secret services were aware of the one who committed the attack 5 days ago. But these data - he redistributed with surgical accuracy the United States and Britain.

            Israel’s desire to work with Moscow in countering terrorism is hypocrisy.
            http://newsru.com/world/09nov2015/cnn.html
            http://rus.postimees.ee/3391599/cnn-dannye-ob-aviakatastrofe-velikobritanii-i-ss


            ha-peredal-izrail
            PS
            And why am I not surprised.
          2. NIKNN
            NIKNN 9 November 2015 20: 39 New
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            Ramzaj99 SU Today, 17:30

            It's amazing that no one remembers John Kerry's words. When the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces had just begun in Syria, he said in one of his interviews "If the Russians continue their operation in Syria, their civilian planes will begin to serve" - ​​this is, by the way, a quote !!!! And the terrorist attack was committed (it is already clear that it was a terrorist attack), the same guys from the "moderate opposition", in other words, the CIA officers !!


            Involvement of any of НАТОis significant. And strangely enough, the difficulty of confirming an explosion on board suggests this idea. The fact is that trace detection known explosives is a fairly simple matter (if correct, the specialists are wrong), but somewhere the information slipped through about the development of a new (experimental to date) explosive based on other chemical bases, supposedly no traces of its action could be detected by analysis methods accepted today. So, it seems that without the help of laboratories in highly developed countries it would hardly have been possible to use it. And yet, it’s not without reason that they expand the search zones (they don’t look for shoes), they are probably looking for the details of the control unit, most likely the control unit was equipped with a pressure sensor and crashed at a certain height. Plus, why are the British eager to engage the SAS in order to destroy the organizer of the terrorist attack, is it not so that the real organizers are not handed over?
            It seems like that. request
          3. Wise Kaa
            Wise Kaa 10 November 2015 03: 23 New
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            Wise Kaa RU November 5, 2015 08:23
            I think that waiting for an expert opinion is pointless. For no one will tell the truth, for the reasons already expressed here, I do not want to repeat. Therefore, you need to include the brains themselves.

            Turn on the following picture in the head:

            At the 23rd minute of the flight over Sinai, the board 9268 disappears from the radar screens, the crew did not give an emergency signal. A sharp drop in the speed and altitude of the aircraft was recorded on monitoring systems. Then we see the wreckage of the aircraft, with a radius of spread of 50 km! Those. a certain force acted on the plane, which instantly led to the destruction of the liner, as a result of which the pilots could not transmit a signal to the dispatcher.
            Talk immediately began that the plane was old, the owner (or rather the lessee) was a small company, and there was not enough money for proper maintenance. But it immediately turned out that the plane was built in 1997, like the Boeing 777 that crashed in Ukraine, and the maintenance was carried out on time, and the crew was experienced. But now, there was something to complain about 14 years ago !!! The same plane hit its tail when landing. And, of course, the repairs were made by the "laymen" from the airbus, which were repaired very badly, or rather not entirely badly, enough for 14 years. And just after so much time, when the A-321 was in operation at the Russian company, this breakdown made itself felt at an altitude of more than 9000 meters above the Sinai Peninsula, so that the plane collapsed instantly. If this is a joke, then it is not very funny! In my opinion, this is just a far-fetched version to hide the truth.

            The truth is that for a month now we have been awaiting retaliatory actions from the "West" and its allies in the Middle East in connection with:
            - the Russian operation in Syria, which they like a bone in the throat and even more;
            - publication of the final report on the crash of MH17 in eastern Ukraine, in which no one is directly accused. But more than half of the countries of the world blame Russia through the media and no matter who really is to blame, public opinion has developed.


            And here is the answer, direct and cruel, as always aimed at innocent people! Representatives of the organizers of the attack, do not even hesitate to talk about it! Of course, the whole world needs to know that the attack, revenge on the Russians for their aggressive policies!
            On the first day of the crash, shots appear with an explosion on some passenger airliner (most likely a fake, but it doesn’t matter), plus ISIS takes responsibility for the attack, then there was a refutation, due to the lack of the necessary air defense systems to operate at such a height, but this is not the reason the availability of financial resources (everything is bought and everything is bought) for the preparation of the attack at the airport. But these Russians do not want to admit the obvious. And then U.S. intelligence is throwing information into the media, first about a heat outbreak over Sinai, and then about intercepting ISIS talks about the attack. They clearly hint: they say look at what we have done and can still do.

            But of course, the version of the attack is not beneficial to us and Egypt, either.
            Russia is not profitable, because the pressure of the fifth column and the rest of the people will begin on the cessation of the operation in Syria, of course, the main thing is that nobody wants to die in airplanes because of some kind of war in the Middle East (if they fought in Russia then, yes, and then that).
            Egypt, in general, has only one version, problems with the aircraft itself. Well, of course. If the attack, then who will fly to the resorts to them, is unprofitable, then it means that something was wrong with the plane. And the fact that the security at the airport mess is all a provocation.

            And politics! Russia with Egypt and Egypt with Russia obviously do not want to spoil relations.
    3. max702
      max702 9 November 2015 12: 30 New
      +2
      Rumor has it that the flight ban and the evacuation of our citizens from Egypt is a preparation for the responsibility for our plane, so that the citizens do not become hostages or their target and are taken away, while the retaliation operation is being prepared .. in light of this, close contacts with the Egyptian leadership are clear, they have asked directly can you guarantee the security YOURSELF? They apparently didn’t give guarantees .. So our tourists are leaving, and the Egyptian authorities do not particularly lament about this, although the losses are enormous. Waiting for answers is thought in three to four weeks ..
      1. aba
        aba 9 November 2015 23: 37 New
        +1
        in the meantime, preparing for the operation of retaliation ..

        Well, if so, then personally I would have easier to bear the fact that on November 26 I can’t fly to Marsa Alam.
  2. bandabas
    bandabas 9 November 2015 07: 36 New
    +4
    It seems that all the same they digged up, it was not in vain that we were forbidden to fly to rest in Ebipet and sent back without baggage. And they do it so as not to provoke a panic. Like everything is normal, do not be afraid of the citizens.
    1. atalef
      atalef 9 November 2015 07: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: bandabas
      Egypt and back sent without baggage. And they do it so as not to provoke a panic. Like everything is normal, do not be afraid citizens

      Of course . where to get cause for concern - flights are canceled, luggage flies separately - there is nothing to worry about.
    2. atalef
      atalef 9 November 2015 07: 51 New
      0
      Quote: bandabas
      Egypt and back sent without baggage. And they do it so as not to provoke a panic. Like everything is normal, do not be afraid citizens

      Of course . where to get cause for concern - flights are canceled, luggage flies separately - there is nothing to worry about.
    3. Yars
      Yars 9 November 2015 15: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: bandabas
      It seems that all the same they digged up, it was not in vain that we were forbidden to fly to rest in Ebipet and sent back without baggage. And they do it so as not to provoke a panic. Like everything is normal, do not be afraid of the citizens.

      another thing is interesting here, that initially all the Western media are trying to blast ABOUT! This is what suggests the idea that the plane was shot down from the ground using MANPADS
  3. Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 9 November 2015 07: 38 New
    +8
    They did the right thing, that they forbade flights, I offered to do it right away. Maybe this at least motivates Egypt to clean up security at its airports and resorts in general and at the same time speed up the investigation of the A321 disaster.
    1. Throw
      Throw 9 November 2015 16: 04 New
      +4
      The Ebipetsk customs at the airports always reminded me of the hungry traffic cops of 90's. Customs officers, like magpies, react to everything that’s shiny and beautiful in their luggage that can be stolen, i.e. recognize illegal for transportation. Then to push to the same tourists. Safety here is a side effect at all.

      As for the "strange sounds" versions of the explosion on board, these are pure speculation and provocation. And all these statements and "materials" of the "intelligence services" of Britt and Coconuts, too.
      Until the chemical traces of the detonated explosive are found, talk about the attack is about nothing ...
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 9 November 2015 16: 40 New
        +2
        Was in July with his wife in Marsa Alam. On the way back, the customs officer confiscated the tweezers for plucking eyebrows from his wife's cosmetic bag, from the Czech set. Probably he will give it to his girlfriend. Round-trip flight by Transaero company, on Tu-204. We flew on the Tu-204 for the first time, before that mainly on "watermelons" and "bobiks". I liked the plane, it was quite comfortable. The only negative is that when cornering, it is kind of roll, very abruptly waddles onto the wing and back. At the same time, the sensations are alarming, but the aviators themselves say that the rolls are much less than they seem.
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 9 November 2015 22: 09 New
      +3
      Nikolay K RU Today, 07:38

      They did the right thing, that they forbade flights, I offered to do it right away. Maybe this at least motivates Egypt to clean up security at its airports and resorts in general and at the same time speed up the investigation of the A321 disaster.


      Given all the factors (and those that we are told), it’s probably right. But based on what was provided, this solution does not seem optimal. Through Turkey, to the example of ISIS, it walks and walks in different ways, but we fly, and even offer tourists in exchange for Egypt. It seems to me (again, based on what was provided), it would be possible to organize our own groups of separate screening of passengers and baggage for our flights, increase the time and thoroughness of the check, for a while until the local authorities prove their ability to ensure security. The Egyptian authorities, I think only for would be It would be cheaper than to compensate travel agencies for losses and shock ordinary citizens, infinitely in relation to them, After all, ordinary people are not going to compensate much. And airlines would not have incurred losses, by the way, they are also not going to cover losses.crying
      1. aba
        aba 9 November 2015 23: 40 New
        0
        Through Turkey to the example of ISIS and walks and walks in different ways

        And the explosions thundered not only in Istanbul, by the way.
  4. atakan
    atakan 9 November 2015 07: 42 New
    +9
    What happened?
    Judging by the bustle and its speed and order, obviously someone from the airport employees threw an extra suitcase with explosives into the plane .8- (
    And that worker is from Saudi Arabia or from Qatar.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 9 November 2015 07: 50 New
    +4
    Judging by the bustle and its speed and order, obviously someone from the airport workers threw an extra suitcase with explosives into the plane

    It is too early to draw conclusions ... although the Anglo-Saxons have already thrown up a noodle that this is the work of FORKING SINAU.

    If this is indeed so, then the question immediately arises of the sponsors of this organization ... the Saudis, QATAR and, last but not least, the Anglo-Saxons themselves come to mind.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 9 November 2015 08: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      and last but not least the Anglo-Saxons themselves.
      The Anglo-Saxons are behind almost all crimes, with the same Malaysian Boeing, they have not figured it out yet. The Yankees have been testing a combat laser for several years now, in sea, air and land-based, with their rotten reputation, the use of this new weapon on a real civilian aircraft cannot be ruled out (no one answered in due time for an airbus shot down from a US ship ). When using a laser, there are hardly any traces of explosives, although their presence will already be in the interests of the United States in such a turn of affairs.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 9 November 2015 08: 04 New
        +1
        Marine option.
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 9 November 2015 08: 24 New
          11
          At the expense of the laser you, of course, "bent"! But, according to indirect indications, the British and American "government" stuffing into the media about the terrorist attack, the "sifting" of the desert by our Emergencies Ministry, etc., could not do without potential partners. It looks like they are looking for "alien" wreckage at the site of the plane's destruction, some kind of drone had a place to be ...
          IMHO
          PS Building versions from the "sofa" is not a rewarding business, but there is still more fog than with the MH-17, which leads to some thoughts ...
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 9 November 2015 09: 34 New
            +3
            Quote: engineer74
            At the expense of the laser you, of course, "bent"!
            I agree that this is rather a fantastic version, but it is also possible, especially if no traces of explosives are found. Building versions is a thankless task, but versions for that and versions in order to build them, one way or another, everything starts with versions. If the liner, sailing at an altitude of 9,4 km, instantly collapsed, if the most probable external causes of the impact, and not a technical malfunction, then the plane was either blown up by a bomb, or destroyed by some weapon such as a rocket, an aircraft cannon, or this is now no longer very fantastic "death ray". The fact that the United States has a stigma in any case in fluff, in this situation, does not cause any special doubts.
          2. DobryAAH
            DobryAAH 9 November 2015 10: 24 New
            +3
            There is a bent version on the Internet, but I do not agree with it.

            The death of Mikhail Lesin and flight 9268, which crashed over Sinai - is there a connection?
            http://newsstreet.ru/blog/22362.html#comment1221

            Russian special forces captured two CIA officers in Yemen leading the destruction of flight 9268
            http://newsstreet.ru/blog/22282.html
            1. Throw
              Throw 9 November 2015 16: 18 New
              +2
              As for the laser, it's not even a "bend" laughing

              Assuming at the time that a flying laboratory with a laser unnoticeably penetrated the airspace of Sinai, and disguised for a scheduled plane, in order to at least spoil the paint on the liner, it had to come to a distance called dangerous proximity or even a threat of collision. This would be fixed by all warning systems and boxes, as well as obscenities of air traffic controllers ..

              So the games of star wars and theories of laser conspiracies, this is certainly interesting, but the fantasy is on the second floor bully
      2. atakan
        atakan 9 November 2015 09: 36 New
        +1
        Per se.
        The Boeing has a built-in remote control system, and for a very long time.
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 9 November 2015 11: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: atakan
          The Boeing has a built-in remote control system, and for a very long time.
          I do not insist on the laser, this is indeed one of the most "exotic" versions, but the. If we assume that the control of the aircraft was somehow intercepted, as you noted, with the help of remote control, it was necessary to create critical overloads that led to the destruction of the aircraft at an altitude of more than 9000 meters. There were suggestions that such overloads could arise when trying to avoid a collision, for example, with a military aircraft (or, as Dmitry (engineer74) hinted, with a drone (or already a collision with a high-altitude drone)). Until there are no real conclusions on the true cause of the tragedy, all options somehow have the right to be considered. In vain below, prorab_ak is indignant about the "clowns" and the lumen of the brain with a laser, any version, including his, may be erroneous or close to the truth.
          1. aquatic
            aquatic 9 November 2015 14: 37 New
            0
            A bomb in a suitcase is much easier and cheaper. There was no excess maneuver, it was not possible on a passenger plane, and the pilots would have managed to give a signal. Unfortunately, everything happened instantly, judging by the photo and video, this explosion in the cockpit landing gear area is less likely but possible, the tail is torn off.
            Flights have been banned, people are being taken out, they may be silent about the terrorist attack in order to avoid panic among tourists.
            The British fussed just because of the words about "planes will fall", they are obtained under suspicion, and it is very unlikely that they are really in business.
            In any case, we are waiting for a conclusion, they will say and everything will become clear.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 9 November 2015 10: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: The same Lech
      It is too early to draw conclusions ... although the Anglo-Saxons have already thrown up a noodle that this is the work of FORKING SINAU.
      If this is indeed so, then the question immediately arises of the sponsors of this organization ... the Saudis, QATAR and, last but not least, the Anglo-Saxons themselves come to mind.

      ... but the fact that Cameron unambiguously threatened Russia with "a repetition of the A321 tragedy? ...
    3. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 9 November 2015 10: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: The same Lech
      Judging by the bustle and its speed and order, obviously someone from the airport workers threw an extra suitcase with explosives into the plane

      It is too early to draw conclusions ... although the Anglo-Saxons have already thrown up a noodle that this is the work of FORKING SINAU.

      If this is indeed so, then the question immediately arises of the sponsors of this organization ... the Saudis, QATAR and, last but not least, the Anglo-Saxons themselves come to mind.


      It may very well be. I recall Carter (the one who was the head of the pendogon) several days before the tragedy warned Russia that she should be prepared for the fact that the planes will begin to fall. At the same time, he did not say a word military... And I didn't like his face right away. Again, the associative chain: "Peter-Putin-Peter-Medvedev-friendship with Egypt-oil-gas-Peter-plane-bombs on the beloved child (ISIS and Co) -MN 17 (failure of the adventure) -kish-handed Ukrainians-rejection of shale gas in the Donbass-civilian plane-failure with the "tribunal" -humiliation at the general assembly-failure of the "pendo-coalition" in Syria-airplane sorties / effectiveness of the Russian Aerospace Forces-Putin-civil aircraft-terrorist attack-Charlie-Peter-Putin ". The circle is complete. In terms of the destruction of civilian aircraft, the Americans are great "masters".
  6. ayuric
    ayuric 9 November 2015 08: 05 New
    +1
    I agree with bandabas, it seems that the special services have dug up something serious, since so soon they banned flights and separated people and luggage, and we also need to put our "specialists" on registration.
  7. andre
    andre 9 November 2015 08: 12 New
    +8
    I’m going to Altai. We are all eager to crackle about our great Motherland. But we are going to help her with our money and Egypt !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 November 2015 08: 22 New
      +4
      Here you are no longer alone, indeed many begin to master domestic tourism.
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    3. AlexSK
      AlexSK 9 November 2015 08: 29 New
      19
      I never flew to rest, never to Turkey, not to Egypt, and I’m not going to have my rest. I like my Siberian nature more. Here I have beauty near the city!
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      2. Peterhof 73
        Peterhof 73 9 November 2015 10: 57 New
        10
        The beauty. Having once visited Baikal, 25 years ago I can’t how I want to go there again. But for me it is very expensive. I'd like to visit Krasnoyarsk, Khakassia, Altai. Unfortunately, domestic tourism is unreasonably expensive for many fellow citizens. Service does not always meet even not very demanding requirements. And the time for rest is often very limited. I have to go to Turkey. decent service, the sea is warm. clean. The prices are reasonable. The flight is fast. And yes. I don’t understand why such high prices for train tickets?
        1. AlexSK
          AlexSK 9 November 2015 12: 26 New
          +2
          I don’t know, I don’t need a nafig service, if I go to nature I’m “wild” (for me all the buzz lies in the wild), well, as they say, it tastes and color ...
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 9 November 2015 14: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: AlexSK
            I don’t know, I don’t need a nafig service, if I go to nature I’m “wild” (for me all the buzz lies in the wild), well, as they say, it tastes and color ...

            what I even agree with the savage, only tickets from St. Petersburg cost 25 thousand to Irkutsk, 18 thousand Barnaul - this is at the beginning of December, and if in the summer you can safely throw 30-40 percent - total for three (two adults + reb. ) 70-80 thousand tickets will be issued purely. For comparison, in June I drove my family to Cyprus - 80 thousand tickets and accommodation for 10 days were issued (apartments with a kitchen, without meals).
            It may be cheaper by train, but it takes almost 3 days one way, and even as much as you eat on the way, and the child is small. Our "zhivoglots" do not want to support their tourism, the southern direction and those prices are kept at a price as if not to the Black Sea, but you fly to Africa for it.
      3. Greenwood
        Greenwood 9 November 2015 15: 21 New
        +1
        You have no palm trees. wassat
      4. traveler
        traveler 9 November 2015 20: 08 New
        +3
        to whom what.
        and here I was sunbathing in Egypt with Turkey, and I snorkled in the Maldives and stood awesome in front of the Taj Mahal, etc. etc. and I have no regrets. the world is big, why deprive yourself of all this? patriotism? I think he’s not at all in it.
    4. 70BSN
      70BSN 9 November 2015 08: 33 New
      +8
      It’s just that everyone understands that you are not helping your great Motherland with your money, but to the pocket of officials and businessmen. After all, most resort bases, recreation areas, camp sites and so on do not belong to the state, but to private hands.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 9 November 2015 14: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: 70BSN
        It’s just that everyone understands that you are not helping your great Motherland with your money, but to the pocket of officials and businessmen. After all, most resort bases, recreation areas, camp sites and so on do not belong to the state, but to private hands.

        what the state has all taxes for this, and the development of a region for a certain self-sufficiency (profit, jobs, demand for certain goods) would make life easier for these regions. Baikal, for example - if you make a normal infrastructure (hotels, transport, security) - I think the Japanese, the Chinese will go in batches, and ours will go if the charters and the message are normal.
        1. 70BSN
          70BSN 9 November 2015 16: 01 New
          0
          That is, it can be considered that the State should allocate money to all these bureaucrats, businessmen in order to build all this (infrastructure), despite the fact that we have a budget deficit both in the subjects and at the federal level.

          Then they built and there will be a cost of rest as it is now in Sochi in the winter. And here all the patriots, despite the high cost, will go to rest. YES?
          And then my friends went on vacation for the New Year holidays in Sochi, and the taxi driver does not know that he has such an address and a hotel in the city.

          I love my country, land, people of our simple.
          I DO NOT LOVE OUR POLICIES AND HEADS OF STATE.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 9 November 2015 17: 39 New
            0
            Quote: 70BSN
            That is, it can be considered that the State should allocate money to all these bureaucrats, businessmen in order to build all this (infrastructure), despite the fact that we have a budget deficit both in the subjects and at the federal level.

            what No, not so, the state should prepare the conditions - and the business should develop itself, of course, there should be state enterprises or enterprises with state participation there (health resorts, etc.).
            And the conditions should be such that people could get there at affordable prices, so that the entrepreneur had confidence that his electricians, gas workers and authorities controlling other resource bases would not dump him here and there and knock out bribes. Finally, loans at low interest rates for those who are developing tourism there, as an option even interest-free loans.
    5. atakan
      atakan 9 November 2015 09: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: andre
      I'm going to Altai

      Have you been there for a long time? In areas where Putin does not exist and some other officials have cut down the forest very much, and now the remnants cut and litter a lot where.
      How, is it true or not? I also want to visit.
    6. dvg79
      dvg79 9 November 2015 12: 19 New
      +2
      I support - not figs to export money from the country, and it will be safer.
    7. lelikas
      lelikas 9 November 2015 14: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: andre
      I’m going to Altai. We are all eager to crackle about our great Motherland. But we are going to help her with our money and Egypt !!!

      So name at least two domestic resorts where you can sunbathe and swim in the winter - I'm sure people will go there right away. In the summer in Egypt, and so not many people are too hot.
      About the difference in prices for holidays in Turkey and ours, in the summer, was it not lazy to joke, although it would seem that what prevented us from making competitive prices? And in a crisis, when the cost of dollar vouchers jumped twice. Greed multiplied by stupidity, and then oh, high season, we did not get as many tourists as we wanted.
    8. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 November 2015 15: 20 New
      0
      In Altai, you cannot sunbathe on the beach under a palm tree. And most of the Russo-tourists give just such a vacation.
      1. traveler
        traveler 9 November 2015 20: 14 New
        +2
        our country is northern, people want warmth. I’m a Murmansk citizen, we have a polar night, of course, by February I would like to dump in the warm lands. so you go for 2-3 weeks, take a rest, and it seems like you can survive until the summer.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 November 2015 08: 22 New
    +4
    For their own safety, Russian tourists can for some time do without Egypt. Regarding the sponsors of a possible terrorist attack, they correctly wrote who first comes to mind. But do not forget with whom and whose special services the same Qatar or the SA are closely cooperating.
    1. 31R-US
      31R-US 9 November 2015 08: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Russian tourists can do without Egypt for some time

      Where temporarily, there constantly
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 9 November 2015 14: 24 New
        0
        Quote: 31R-US
        Where temporarily, there constantly

        Remember the "Arab Spring" - how long did the ban last?
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 9 November 2015 20: 17 New
        0
        Quote: 31R-US
        Where temporarily, there constantly

        it’s necessary to build a bridge wassat
  9. cniza
    cniza 9 November 2015 08: 24 New
    +3
    Quote: rotmistr60
    But do not forget with whom and whose special services the same Qatar or the SA are closely cooperating.



    Ahead of all and most of all stick out the ears of Qatar. am
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 November 2015 08: 35 New
    +3
    Even during the Arab Spring, Russians went to rest in Egypt. I remember very well this TV picture, when they show "crazy" Cairo and calm beaches. Why is it more dangerous now?
    And then these sanctions hit Egypt hard, it’s the same as conspiring with the whole world and stop buying oil from Russia.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 9 November 2015 08: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why is it more dangerous now?

      It was not in Egypt that became more dangerous, but the probability of carrying out possible terrorist attacks on air transport increased.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 9 November 2015 14: 29 New
        0
        Quote: rotmistr60
        It was not in Egypt that became more dangerous, but the probability of carrying out possible terrorist attacks on air transport increased.

        Fly BTA planes - quickly, reliably, with a minimum of comfort. laughing
        But seriously, it is necessary to seriously improve security at airports, as well as to check everyone who had access to the board - after all, explosives were not necessarily in the luggage.
        Well and most importantly - wait for the outcome of the investigation.
      2. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 9 November 2015 18: 11 New
        0
        It’s not yet evening, they can take hostages in hotels. Will we wait?
  11. Beasofffan
    Beasofffan 9 November 2015 08: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: engineer74
    PS Building versions from the "sofa" is not a rewarding business, but there is still more fog than with the MH-17, which leads to some thoughts ...

    Well, every second in our country is an international aviation expert) As well as candidates of science in conspiracy theories, apparently. In general, let the IAC be engaged in the investigation and there is nothing to hypothesize before the corresponding reports. There is no need to stoop to the level of American journalists and their Ukrainian colleagues with the enchanting "Putin knocked down !! 11".
  12. Mercury
    Mercury 9 November 2015 08: 44 New
    +1
    Well, in Siberia, beauty, but agree a couple of months of summer is not enough, especially for children they want to splash in the sea. Come to us in Sochi and Crimea. Yes, if it’s expensive to go to restaurants every day but it’s possible to be more modest. For example, I moved here for permanent residence for five years, I have been living with my family and haven’t gone broke. The same expenses as in other cities
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 November 2015 15: 23 New
      0
      Yeah, and in January-February do you people bathe too?
  13. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 9 November 2015 08: 48 New
    +8
    I have already had this question for a long time: Why, together with parametric and speech recorders and their sensors, do not install video recorders with a video information storage device in the airplane compartments? And not only in all compartments of the aircraft, but also on the hull in different places to fix everything that happens around the aircraft. Well, I don’t see any problem in this and it’s not so expensive now, because even from the Earth’s orbit, a video image is transmitted from the ISS in real time. Then a bunch of questions would have disappeared in the event of a similar situation that arose with flight A-321. This question should be addressed to everyone on whom the decision to install DVRs on airplanes depends and it is urgent to make a decision at the international level to make such a decision, this is very important.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 9 November 2015 13: 15 New
      0
      It weighs an emergency recorder of 10 kg, withstands a monstrous blow of 1000g and a temperature of 1000 degrees during a half hour mine, you can see all the info on the Internet, and it’s not always possible to decipher it, but you’re talking about a DVR! of time, yes, but here technical difficulties arise, imagine what kind of information flow will go from the liner, for example, in five hours of flight!
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 9 November 2015 14: 33 New
        0
        Quote: igorka357
        It weighs an emergency recorder of 10 kg, withstands a monstrous blow of 1000g and a temperature of 1000 degrees during a half hour mine, you can see all the info on the Internet, and it’s not always possible to decipher it, but you’re talking about a DVR! of time, yes, but here technical difficulties arise, imagine what kind of information flow will go from the liner, for example, in five hours of flight!

        Which stream? Today they are even put in all minibuses, the recording is also chased by calc, and ensuring the memory card is no more difficult than coils with wire.
        1. aquatic
          aquatic 9 November 2015 14: 57 New
          0
          What do you want to see on the record, for example, during an explosion inside the cabin? I assure you that what is written in black boxes is enough to find out the cause of the incident with reliable accuracy. We are waiting for the conclusion, probably 95% of the situation is already known, the question is why they are silent.
  14. Svetlana
    Svetlana 9 November 2015 08: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: The same Lech
    Judging by the bustle and its speed and order, obviously someone from the airport workers threw an extra suitcase with explosives into the plane

    It is too early to draw conclusions ... although the Anglo-Saxons have already thrown up a noodle that this is the work of FORKING SINAU.

    If this is indeed so, then the question immediately arises of the sponsors of this organization ... the Saudis, QATAR and, last but not least, the Anglo-Saxons themselves come to mind.

    I think that the Anglo-Saxons are just not least. Since there is still no clear idea of ​​the causes of the disaster, everything was organized at an extremely high level. And this indicates the work of elite special services. Surely, both the Malaysian Boeing and our airbus are the work of the West or its puppets. It is possible that moles are capable of and ready to carry out such a thing in our special services.
  15. Heimdall48
    Heimdall48 9 November 2015 09: 05 New
    -14
    Our authorities laughed once again - before bombing Syria they could have guessed about such a development of events and previously closed flights with Egypt and Turkey.
    All this Syria, together with all Syrians and Assad, together is not worth the life of Russian citizens who died on an airplane. It is a pity for our people, it is necessary to bomb the unchristians, but it is necessary to think those who hold power with their heads in advance, and not when the rooster pecks. Then, after all, and what else can happen, God forbid, we will again plug holes in hindsight.
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 9 November 2015 10: 39 New
      +2
      Do not run in front of a steam locomotive, everyone benefits from the attack, and not the problem of the plane. If it turns out that the problems are in the liner, then you imagine how many problems both our and foreign comrades have at once. Officially, the aircraft is not for us to prenadelecit, and production is also ... And since it’s a bomb, everything can be attributed to it. The Boeing also had problems, the poppy and the Russian Aviation cannot come to an agreement in any way.
      1. Heimdall48
        Heimdall48 9 November 2015 15: 00 New
        +2
        This is our valiant leadership to run and think 10 steps forward, not me. It's not that - the bomb is not a bomb, the fact is - why hadn’t the brain been turned on before and the air traffic not been blocked? It’s time to tighten control inside the country too - it’s just that everyone doesn’t give a damn until the first racket.
    2. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 9 November 2015 14: 01 New
      -3
      "Our authorities" do not care about citizens so much that there can be no questions for them. It is time for citizens to think for themselves and worry. Because "our authorities" would rather drive everyone into the grave than worry, or think about someone other than themselves.
    3. traveler
      traveler 9 November 2015 20: 19 New
      +1
      I agree. It also seems to me that the Assad with all its sectarians is not worth the lives of 224 of our fellow citizens.
  16. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 9 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +1
    Solve the Ukraine-Boeing equation? Syria Airbus. A hint to the diamond-antei that you don’t need to go wherever you go ...
    Our authorities laughed once again - before bombing Syria they could have guessed about such a development of events and previously closed flights with Egypt and Turkey.
    We will never know anything, which is absolutely for the best.
    1. Heimdall48
      Heimdall48 9 November 2015 09: 28 New
      +6
      We will never know anything, which is absolutely for the best.

      This is not the point, but the probability that the plane was blown up and will still be blown up (and not only the planes), and it would be nice to take this probability into account in advance, and not after the coffins with fellow citizens arrive at their homeland.
      1. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 9 November 2015 09: 31 New
        0
        Yes, I agree, but it has always been like this with us, what can we change?
        We will never know anything, which is absolutely for the best.
  17. atakan
    atakan 9 November 2015 09: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    and last but not least the Anglo-Saxons themselves.

    The poor reputation of the Naguls, the guarantee of our attitude towards them.
    - this is called stability, at least 250 years.

    That's how people supported.
  18. Dr.Serg
    Dr.Serg 9 November 2015 10: 27 New
    10
    There really were big security problems at the Sharma airport, I was there several times and when passing the control there the camel could be taken out. A case in a duty-free shop, cards are not accepted, there is no cash - the seller took me through all the controls back to the exit from the airport, past all the customs officers and police (the ATM was only there) and brought me back to the clean area ... bring in and take out whatever you want! On the other hand, I got on Metrojet flights several times, my impressions were not the best ... last August, the pilot could not fit into the runway three times when landing ... I sat at the window and saw enough ... a lane with a roll to the right landing gear, the plane gave a good "goat" with a bang (all this during the day and in perfect weather), two young women were sitting behind me ... so one was already praying, and the second uttered the phrase: "... I, of course I lived, but I don't want to die .. "... There was already a quiet panic in the cabin .... before that, there were also minor" adventures "with this airline ...
  19. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 9 November 2015 10: 33 New
    +1
    Like any kill, look for those who benefit?
  20. prorab_ak
    prorab_ak 9 November 2015 10: 41 New
    -1
    Where do you get so many clowns only? It is clear how two and two that we were "slapped" ... moreover, right off the bat, without even much preparation, which "characterizes" the preparation of our intelligence in the Middle East. Half of the commentators need to be shined with lasers and checked whether it is there or not.
    ...... right now kremleboty with foam at the mouth in an attack trample fellow
    1. Bekas1967
      Bekas1967 9 November 2015 14: 06 New
      0
      I made fun))) people have seen enough of Bond! Hollywood!
  21. dckx
    dckx 9 November 2015 11: 25 New
    -3
    Gentlemen, it seems to me that there is no reliable reason to believe that there is a terrorist attack today !!! We need to wait for an official statement from the government.
    As an example, a tragic accident took place. Then there is a pause and a statement by the "partners" about the availability of information confirming the explosion on board and the satellite's recording of a thermal flash (Facts where?). The British impose a ban on flights of their airlines to Egypt and take out passengers, solely for the reliability of their version (I think that there are other "dividends", they will not be able not to use this tragedy). Russia's actions - Putin's statement "We will not be intimidated," Banning flights to Egypt and removing luggage separately from tourists. All this does not mean a terrorist attack. The statement and removal of passengers separately can be a screen, so as not to create panic, since further massive direct contacts with our tourists are possible, resulting in death (the Saxons will not pull the rubber band, dumping everything on ISIS, what an opportunity). And it is precisely this that the government excludes, ripping people off the rest promptly. The jewelry explosions in the south of Great Britain on November 4 and the lack of mass media coverage of them are nothing more than cooling the "fervor" of the British "enthusiasm" and gaining time. I repeat all the above expressed only the version does not reflect my opinion. Let's wait for the official conclusion!
    1. aquatic
      aquatic 9 November 2015 14: 49 New
      -1
      unfortunately this is an explosion inside the casing, we are waiting for the conclusion as a result of which it occurred
    2. 31R-US
      31R-US 9 November 2015 17: 29 New
      0
      Gentlemen, it seems to me that there is no reliable reason to believe that there is a terrorist attack today !!! We need to wait for an official statement from the government.
      Wait Hope Believe stop
  22. atakan
    atakan 9 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    and last but not least the Anglo-Saxons themselves.

    - and then somehow suddenly unexpected.)
    Great Britain included Russia among the national security threats.
    Deutsche Welle http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/106530/
  23. Sheikh
    Sheikh 9 November 2015 12: 26 New
    0
    Well, you can fly to Egypt by Belarusian, Mongolian and other airlines; there would be a desire.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 9 November 2015 18: 26 New
      0
      Then let the Mongol special forces save you if they take hostages at the resort.
  24. Aleksey888
    Aleksey888 9 November 2015 12: 31 New
    0
    Quote: lwxx
    Do not run in front of a steam locomotive, everyone benefits from the attack, and not the problem of the plane. If it turns out that the problems are in the liner, then you imagine how many problems both our and foreign comrades have at once. Officially, the aircraft is not for us to prenadelecit, and production is also ... And since it’s a bomb, everything can be attributed to it. The Boeing also had problems, the poppy and the Russian Aviation cannot come to an agreement in any way.

    Do you still have doubts that this is not a terrorist attack? sad
  25. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 9 November 2015 14: 15 New
    -5
    We have so many already "dear and respected partners" divorced, and relations with them "the best in the world" Lavrov-Putin brought them to such a state with their scams that take any country directly within a radius of 1000 km from the plane crash site, we all have tooth, everyone has a claim, with everyone somehow managed to change .. well, maybe except for Greece. And then, P. spoke there and promised something, they asked us for help in difficult times, we sent them, they could harbor an insult - they could. Therefore, in the suspects now from America-England, to Qatar-Afghanistan, anyone can be, and for some reason this does not surprise anyone. Hey! Where are our reliable friends? What have Lavrov-xxx been doing for twenty years, if we are only enemies or "our respected partners" surround us?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 9 November 2015 15: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Hey! Where are our reliable friends? What have Lavrov-xxx been doing for twenty years, if we are only enemies or "our respected partners" surround us?

      laughing Well, you seemed to have fallen directly from the moon, show at least one country with friends and your own opinion on the world stage. Everyone is sitting under someone and would be happy to be friends for their own good, but the uncle or aunt will not allow the evil. How many times has it been said that Russia has no friends except its army and navy.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 9 November 2015 15: 53 New
        +1
        Interesting. But for example, China and Russia - are they friends or not? Who is sitting under whom? Russia and India are friends? Are we helping Syria because these are our friends, or because they are sitting under us? When Putin says something from the rostrum at the UN, does he express his own opinion in the international arena, or is he sent a piece of paper from Washington? Or are we the only ones in the world that are unique, we want to do something, no one gives us a decree, and all other countries in the world sit strictly under someone and cannot utter a peep?
        I did not see much sense in your letters, a set of stamps of some kind.
    2. atakan
      atakan 9 November 2015 16: 10 New
      0
      chunga-changa
      If you had lived in Liechtenstein or Switzerland, then everything would have been normal with you. Yes, and Putin has been in power for only nominally 15 years. But Russia is not alive for those very 15 years, but (look at the history textbook)
      But yes, there are definitely no reliable friends of allies.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 9 November 2015 16: 22 New
        -1
        If grandmother had ... she would be grandfather. If I lived where you listed, I would write about the Liechtenstein or Swiss problems in their internet. But this would not have affected the problem of having friends and allies in Russia, as the problem of its incompetence ....
        1. atakan
          atakan 9 November 2015 16: 36 New
          0
          I recall Chernomyrdin, the ambassador (mother), this wasn’t enough for us to have this ambassador in Ukraine, and Lavrov became normal 5-7 years ago.
          As a switch of statehood they included. (
          This is of course Sun Tzu’s strategy directly, a coincidence on several points is clearly visible.
          Of course there are a lot of jambs.
  26. 52
    52 9 November 2015 18: 18 New
    0
    Although he is a Transbaikal man himself, he traveled the Country from Brest to Vladivostok (and more than once, it happened, yes), until the whole country I see, why do I need other shores? Although I went to Cuba for hotstsa, and to Antarctica .. In general, I have never been to the Black Sea. But I swam in the Pacific Ocean and the Baltic Sea. And I washed my face on the south coast of the Arctic Ocean (I didn’t swim, because September). So there is something to see. And if there is not enough money, then to Baikal!
  27. karamultuk
    karamultuk 9 November 2015 19: 51 New
    0
    my opinion is the cancellation of all flights on all types of aircraft, there is a recognition of the attack. all the difference in the interpretation of what happened. in the geyropa Achtung, and there they are not shy in expressions when evacuating citizens, and with what sauce they bring up the export of ours you yourself know.
  28. RoTTor
    RoTTor 9 November 2015 20: 16 New
    0
    If true. then we will drink to our health and we will wait for the reptiles to receive in full and publiclyhttp: //bazaistoria.ru/blog/43805313052/Spetsnaz-RF-zahvatil-v-Yemene-dvuh
    -sotrudnikov-TSRU, -rukovodivsh? utm_campaign = transit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = p
    age_0 & domain = mirtesen.ru & paid = 1 & pad = 1 & tmd = 1о
  29. traveler
    traveler 9 November 2015 20: 45 New
    0
    judging by the comments, no one has read the article to the end. so after all, what will happen to Russian travel companies, it’s real because in the winter they traveled at the expense of Egypt.
    Tourists flew in with tickets they had already bought, the travel industry was waiting for a difficult period, airlines lost flights (unlike South Asia and Turkey, the charters to Egypt were operated by our airlines).
    so the losses are serious, of course it's all the little things against the background of the deaths of so many people.
    I don’t know if the Ishilov’s miscalculated or it happened, but the negative effect of the attack was enormous.
  30. Budilnik
    Budilnik 9 November 2015 20: 58 New
    0
    If this was a terrorist attack, then its roots must be sought beyond the ocean. Doesn’t it look like the American-Ukrainian scenario with a Boeing? as soon as the Donbass militias began to defeat the junta, an airliner crash was organized near Donetsk. Only the successes of the Russian Federation and Assad in the fight against the igil became obvious - there was also a catastrophe with a Russian plane. The CIA has long adopted a similar tactic (aircraft over Sakhalin, etc.), everything is very carefully planned in advance. How can only the CIA plan.
  31. cap54
    cap54 9 November 2015 21: 21 New
    0
    all these actions will result in restoring order. Both inside the tourism industry in Russia and in countries where our compatriots rest.
    Yeah ... they’re not getting into Egypt anymore, yesterday a tour to the UAE cost 70000 rubles, today the same tour costs 75000 rubles, and there are no hotel rooms anymore ... and tomorrow? - 90000? We are offered to go to the Crimea (in November?), And what to do there? Answer: to raise the economy of Crimea, to push our money into the so-called so-called vacation, which has not yet been civilized! I don’t see the sun, I don’t feel heat for almost 10 months of the year, so again in slush? Go to Turkey? The same eggs, only a side view ... No, really! I want to swim, to fry in the sun and that I would be licked on each side !!! And then travel agencies refuse to return the money ... they say that only through the court and then, after 1,5 years Eh !!! Masters in government on unpopular decisions !!! They waved their cowards over the bathhouse and even though the grass did not grow !!! Abidna, you panim !!!
  32. INF
    INF 10 November 2015 01: 53 New
    0
    Quote: AlexSK
    I never flew to rest, never to Turkey, not to Egypt, and I’m not going to have my rest. I like my Siberian nature more. Here I have beauty near the city!


    Acquaintances and relatives from Siberia fly a lot and anywhere, but not to their native lands. Not a rebuke, but a fact.
  33. Wolka
    Wolka 10 November 2015 05: 45 New
    0
    everything is correct, but if you believe that the cause of the crash of our plane was still the explosion of the liner, the question arises, why was it blown up over land, it would be more logical to blow it up in the sea, where, as they say, "ends in water", and the second, in response to the first, conjectures and fantasies of course, but something internally tells me that the explosion was special, not trivial explosives, perhaps a secret portable electronic warfare device was used, a mini transmitter-receiver of an encoded radio signal was hidden in the luggage in advance, which, on command (shot from a beam cannon) from the ground, turned on and with its impulse instantly blocked the operation of all onboard electronics, and this happened repeatedly (at least 2 times) while the onboard electronics (autopilot) tried to level the plane, but in the end the "saboteur" managed to drop it aircraft, however, the control radius of this device is still limited, I will say that this version fits very well into the earlier similar tragedy of the Malaysian Boeing that fell into the sea,where his traces were never found, and now who was profitable, it is clear that the Yankees and the coalition to remove Russia from Syria, or at least during the turmoil after the disaster, to redeploy and reorganize and strengthen the forces of ISIS in Syria ...
  34. Aleks.Antonov
    Aleks.Antonov 10 November 2015 06: 32 New
    0
    Who benefits from an air attack in Egypt?
    As it will not be strange, the Russian government. I love Russia, but what happens takes me out of balance. First, in the spring of the 14th year, the ban on the departure of servicemen, employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and civil servants abroad was prohibited. They were recommended by order to relax in Russia.
    Now the plane crash in Egypt. And a total ban on air travel to Egypt! You tell me the country where the air attack took place, and after which air travel to this country was banned! Is it forbidden to fly to Ukraine? Or in the USA after the mass air attack of 11.09.11/XNUMX/XNUMX? The listing of countries can be continued for a long time.
    What's next?
    Ban air transportation to Turkey? Under some plausible pretext, for example, the war in Syria? And is this all for the sake of Crimea? If you, gentlemen from the government, want to fill the Crimea with tourists, then do a few simple things:
    1. Put things in order with small businesses throughout the country! Let people work, not rob them.
    2. Place order in air transportation to the Crimea and across the country. Build new airports, change logistics.
    3. Build at an accelerated pace a bridge, a tunnel, or even the devil knows what, in the Crimea.
    But even after solving these problems, I personally will not go to the Crimea for a vacation! Because I don’t like it when they look at me like a cash cow. Because I'm out of the habit of boorish communication. I'm used to the client being right. And here even the "servants of the people" consider themselves superior to the people.
    My personal opinion on this plane crash. The tail tore off the plane. The reason was a hit on the landing strip in 2001. And poor-quality repairs at the watermelon factories, after this incident. I, I think that after such incidents the planes should be decommissioned. And sent to scrap.
  35. Buffalo
    Buffalo 11 November 2015 00: 24 New
    0
    What awaits the Russian tourism business, I do not really care.
    More concerned about what awaits Qatar, which, according to Satanovsky, has become the customer of the terrorist attack against our tourists. The customer of the attack was personally the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Qatar.
    This puppet state has long been sponsoring terrorists, due to the large budget received from the sale of energy.
    Mosna is the most vulnerable spot in Qatar; a blow to it will be very painful!
  36. asdasdz
    asdasdz 11 November 2015 20: 49 New
    0
    Another option for whom this disaster may be beneficial is Turkey. Most tourists will fly to Turkey instead of Egypt.