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Confession of a traitor: how Russian nationalism is buried in Ukraine

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We often give the floor to those who are fighting in the army of Donbass. We discuss the situation with them. We more or less understand these people. But we do not know at all about those who are fighting on the side of the punitive battalions of Ukraine. And there are enough of them. And not only from Russia, but also from Belarus, from Kazakhstan and other former Soviet republics. They really fight not for fear, but for conscience. Many are known by their call sign. Upon receipt of such service in the punitive they have their passports withdrawn. However, their real names and surnames are probably known only to special services. The more interesting it will be to learn the "insides" of one of these fighters.


Confession of a traitor: how Russian nationalism is buried in Ukraine


It was not by chance that I made words about treason in the title. And I really think that a person who in any form is harmful to his country is a traitor. And participation in hostilities in the Donbas against the people's republics is no different from participation in the war against their own state. And as if modern "Vlasov" and "Frost" did not try to put themselves on a par with the Spanish 30 volunteers of the last century, everyone understands perfectly well - they supported those who seized power in the wake of the coup. They support the junta.

The interview of this once Russian nationalist was published on the Ukrainian Observer website (Russia is an inverted world: as a resident of Vladivostok, fought for Ukraine). And the reason for this interview is not that the traitor wanted fame. It’s not even that he is very concerned about the fate of Ukraine as a state. Everything is much more prosaic. The wolf saw the flags. Sorry for hunting associations. The forest (in the Ukrainian version of the steppe) suddenly became hostile. Those who were born and lived earlier in this steppe can hide in their “minks”. They are at home. And the wolf is not. His house is far away. But he betrayed him. And now, seeing the flags, I realized: hunters are close. And nowhere to run.

What you read is rather a plea of ​​traitors to the Ukrainian president and government for at least some official status. Otherwise, the deportation to the native “forest” and the camp for a decent time. And by no means pioneer.

Oleg Zhdanov is a Russian who fought in the Donbas for Ukraine as part of one of the volunteer formations. Most of his life he was engaged in arts and crafts, through which he went into paganism.

In his native Vladivostok, he helped like-minded people who brought criminal cases under the so-called “Russian article” - the 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. For those who are not particularly knowledgeable in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, article 282 is to incite hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity. The article is quite interesting. Nationalists call it Russian. It was she who became the main in the fight against nationalism.

How do such people get into battalions? What is the reason for such a rebirth?

"Look, here история This: at first I went to Ukraine as a political emigrant. After that, I helped in one of the volunteer training centers, then I went to the Donbass. Volunteer is my official status in the ATO zone, but it is clear that I did a little bit other things there. "

I think it is clear what lies behind the beautiful "political emigrant." The man violated the Criminal Code of the country. What is the policy? But to say that he escaped from a criminal article does not sound like a "political opponent of the regime." The song is familiar. We have half of London such political emigrants. But those with money. And this peripheral. Beggar.

"Officially, we were going to help dig trenches, but we had to constantly shoot unofficially. We had machine guns, machine guns, grenade launchers — that is, average weaponexcept heavy. "

Poor Russian, Belarusian, Kazakh and other traitors. The entire battalion has heavy weapons, but they are not given. Not Ukrainians. But in fact, this phrase is addressed specifically to Ukrainians. More precisely, the government of Ukraine. See what good soldiers we are? We don’t really need anything. We can and small arms Tanks stop. But you do not grant us citizenship.

"In the first couple of weeks in Ukraine, we tried to get the status of a political émigré, but things are terrible here. You go out into the street - all people support you, it comes out very cool. And you come to the migration service and you understand that the people who sit there, they take a frankly pro-Russian position. Formally, it gives refugee status, but in two cases: you must either be killed on the territory of Russia or imprisoned. The third is not given. This is such a migration policy of the state. "

The state does not want to recognize the traitors? Even a state like Ukraine? What, tell me, is it so surprising and incomprehensible here? Betrayed time - will betray the second. Then the third. The traitor is the essence of man. We know many examples from our history. Each of them believes that betrays only once. But in fact, all life turns into a series of betrayals.

It is very interesting to understand the ideological background of betrayal. In the movies and newsreels, we know that in the Great Patriotic War the majority of traitors were from the ideological, offended by the Soviet authorities. Vlasov, by the way, is more likely an exception from the general list. Or those who most recently "became part of the USSR." Some of them simply looked for opportunities to run across to theirs. And now?

"It's about how to turn on 180 degrees. A very big difference is that you are fighting on the territory of Ukraine against Ukraine or for Ukraine. If you are fighting against Ukraine, you are fighting, in fact, for the Putin regime. And if you are fighting for Ukraine, you automatically fight against Putin's regime.

Another question, I must admit that the population of Russia really turned out to be deceived. But here it is logical that they are deceiving you, and do not be deceived. Why didn't I manage to cheat? Why my like-minded people could not fool? There is only one option - in Russia there is a pathological amount of indifferent people. "


So that's it. Killing Ukrainians, this Anika-warrior is at war with Putin. Fighting with us. That is exactly the "changeling", which I mentioned above. The revolution in Kiev was made according to the law, but education in the same way LDNR - no. What is it said for? Probably, in order to inspire Svidomo Ukrainians that Russia has a strong opposition. Just someone left to fight, and the rest are fighting underground. Although Ukrainians are more understandable "in the cellar." They train their own to fight from the caches. What is the Russian cellar.

But there are interesting moments in this interview. Especially the arguments about the Ukrainian state and its goals.

"The Ukrainian state does not have a goal to win the war, it does not have a goal to legalize foreigners in ATO or political emigration. Such structures have goals that are generally amorphous. These structures are sick and partially parasitic. And what could be the goal there? they had less trouble and problems.
And the goals of those in power are to stay in power. What goal can they have? Imagine, in the country of their maydanovtsy a dime a dozen, and then conscious people come from other countries. Naturally, they would somehow get rid of their own, but also foreigners would crawl. "


Here! Parasites on the body of Ukraine are obtained in power. They are going to "conscious and active" to help Ukraine win in an unequal struggle, and Ukraine, it turns out, is not necessary. No matter how much anyone called them to fight for Ukraine, they themselves drew themselves. It turns out that the epiphany comes to these conscious heads, and it is already too late to drink Borjomi.

Checkboxes are already visible everywhere. Wolves do not know where to run? Yes, and disappointment with all he saw felt. Perhaps the war still teaches something. Even a man with the essence of a traitor begins to realize that further fate is nothing but the fate of an outcast. Outcast for everyone.

And as an officer, I was rejected by the following: “Although those lads who had a military education, like Ilya Bogdanov (senior lieutenant of the border guards of the FSB of the Russian Federation) who fought in the Donbas for Kiev,“ cyborg. ”In March of this year, Petro Poroshenko signed a decree on providing he is of Ukrainian citizenship), they in passing, without any policy, went to the ATO zone ".

I do not want to write about my attitude to this person. And in general I do not want to consider him an officer. The traitor of the "civil" is disgusting, but it happens. Somewhere they were not taught, somewhere they were offended, somewhere they were not brought up. But the officer, and even the border guard ... It's a shame both for the state and for the servicemen.

Nuance smelled? Someone without politics just went to war - the "gently begging." And who has a politician or a “politician” hanging behind his back, the Ukrainian authorities are somehow cautious with those.

An article about a traitor is always written difficult. Vocabulary runs out very quickly and is replaced by profanity. It is difficult to delve into the soul of man from manure. It does not work not to get dirty. But you need to write about these former people. To our memory retained not only the feats of heroes, but the meanness of the traitors. So that after many years it didn’t work out the way it happened in Ukraine. Traitors and murderers of their people suddenly became heroes, and heroes traitors.

This is not in the direction of living in Ukraine, in any part of it. This already applies to us living in Russia. How will it be on or in Ukraine - half the battle. And our main task is to draw appropriate conclusions for the future.

And for the first time I will write an impossible phrase for myself. Correctly Poroshenko does, not satisfying the requests of these renegades for citizenship. Indeed, in Ukraine, their maydaunov enough. And dilute them with foreigners is not worth it. They are like condoms. At some point, very much needed. But after this point they are simply thrown away.

Where we will have to throw away what we don’t need (ready-made traitors and potential traitors) is a question. But a matter of time, I hope.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 10 November 2015 06: 09 New
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    Такие вот "индивидуумы", просто расходный материал. Вот и весь сказ. Они не нужны не какой власти в мирное время, ими можно попользоваться иногда, но принимать в "свою стаю" - ни ни. И это не единственная история, такого вот "героя", борющегося за идеалы "белой расы". Их судьба - сгинуть где то на очередной войне за неправое дело
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 10 November 2015 07: 16 New
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      The betrayal of Russia, the Russian people, unfortunately, has become, if not encouraged, then unpunished in post-Soviet Russia.
      Just remember how many traitors were in government agencies that handed over the interests of Russia to the West and the United States in their posts, and then faded there to the West, to the United States, England, sent their families there, their children educating them there to further settle there.
      How many young specialists, scientists have left for the USA, England to work in their military laboratories and design bureaus, and now creating weapons against us, Russia? Aren't they traitors?
      And unstable people from ordinary, ordinary citizens, looking at the impunity of this phenomenon, not having the ability to use their administrative, official, educational resource, are going to such a direct betrayal.

      Я не оправдываю предательство, я пытаюсь понять откуда оно такое многочисленное. Может быть от отсутствия должного наказания, причем всех, независимо от должностного положения, наличия "толстого кошелька" и "благополучного" отбытия и расположения там за границей, под иммунитетом иностранного паспорта?
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      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 10 November 2015 09: 03 New
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        Thanks for the article Roman. Also, guys were always interested in similar personalities described in the article. Particularly touched by Russian nationalists fighting on the side of the Kiev Junta ... They are Ukrainians in person -Mos.kalyaku on gilyaku! and they answer them -We came to help you brothers fight against Putin! I understand and welcome the finding of Russian nationalists of orthodox Slavs in the LDPR army as the Junta openly proclaimed with its slogan -Mos.kalyaku on gilyaku! Those. all Russian is not in the territory of the former Ukraine.
        BUT I can’t understand these same people fighting on the side of Kiev with the same success they could be in their apartment in Moscow, Pyatigorsk, Khabarovsk or Vladivostok with a cry -Glory to Ukraine! -Hang, i.e. kill yourself for the glory of Ukraine in spite of Russia (while being a citizen of Russia) wassat
        Украина как активированный уголь вытягивает из России всё г... начиная от "Русских националистов" (которые автоматически перестают быть:
        1.РУССКИМИ, когда начинают воевать против "Русского/Славянского мира" за страну с профашистским режимом где у власти ВНИМАНИЕ -Даже нет этнических Украинцев есть: Грузины, Американцы, Армяне, Евреи, Латыши НО НЕТ УКРАИНЦЕВ).
        2.НАЦИОНАЛИСТАМИ ибо воюют против своей нации а становятся -фашистами космополитами или просто "Хейтерами беспредельщиками" -Как боец "Торнадо" по кличке Мождахед (Белорус по национальности, нацист ставший вдруг исламистом...)
        In addition to the above category, Ukraine, like a pump, incorporates other Russophobes and simply sick and selfish people, who have been in the territory of the Russian Federation for so many years and crap Russia despite living, working, studying, eating, getting married / giving birth, giving birth to children in this country...
        Don't you like Russia? Leave, calmly finding work abroad, transporting your relatives there (if they want to leave) and live happily. I would do so, for to say that everything is around r ... BUT at the same time staying in the midst of this r ... and moaning ak- TANTAL is a lie primarily to yourself and self-humiliation feeds on the hands of the one you hate with all the fibers of the soul ...
        Спасибо Украине, что она подобно гигантскому магниту присасывает подобные личности. Единственное очень бы не хотелось, чтобы все эти: гении, "Лучи свободы", настоящие журналисты типа: Г...Польского, Гайдар, Шустера и т.д. вернулись обратно в Россию с соплями и слезами в глазах мямля -Мы ошибались/мы помогали России "топить" Украину/наши знания и навыки пригодятся России...

        No guys, as said in one old book -A betrayer once ...
        1. The lead
          The lead 10 November 2015 12: 12 New
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          Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
          in any form harmful to his country - a traitor
          You would have to make a reservation how the Russian Federation is harmed by this entity. There is a contradiction here, you don’t consider the Russian Federation as a party to the conflict in the Donbas, if so, how does it damage the Russian Federation? From the Russian point of view, the conflict in the Donbass pursues the goal of uniting the Russian world and the Russian people in a single state. It was precisely this goal that I. Strelkov pursued with his comrades who became detonators of the popular uprising in the Donbass against the Kiev junta. caused a conflict between them. An attempt to escape from confrontation by Strelkov was unsuccessful, therefore, recently he has openly acted as an oppositionist who has consistently upheld national teres people. What we have now in the Donbass: on the one hand and on the other hand, Russians and Ukrainians are killing each other. Russian warriors for Kiev are in favor of maintaining the integrity of the Ukrainian state. Yes, Ukraine has many problems, but let us deal with them ourselves, the Russian Federation does not have the right to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine. Thus, on the one hand there are supporters of a single state who consider the collapse of the USSR illegal and criminal, on the other hand, consider the collapse of the USSR an accomplished historical fact that is not subject to revision, therefore, consider Ukraine as it’s clear that the supporters of a single state reflect the national interests of the Russian people, therefore it’s true that this is the secret to the success of the heroic defense of Slavyansk and Donbass as a whole. The supporters of sovereign Ukraine are in fact separatists playing into the hands of Ukrainian fascists-Bandera and the Ukrainian elite, which is not Ukrainian at all in ethnic composition. The supporters of sovereign Ukraine are traitors, how they oppose the national interests of their people.
          1. Mister22408
            Mister22408 10 November 2015 21: 11 New
            +5
            Halogen blood groups ... The purpose of strangers is to make active local Indians perekolbulsya each other (to remind the country? And who doesn’t drive it without actors? And if the Senate committee is reduced to a bathhouse? :-))
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 10 November 2015 14: 57 New
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          Everything is pretty straightforward. The USSR was split using nationalists, and the emphasis was on the Russians. Enough to feed those, these, and why do we need those and so on. And the state is an organism and Russian is the skeleton of the Russian Federation. Is it possible to live without an arm or leg or without a kidney? Of course, but will this make the body stronger or healthier? OUR ENEMIES UNDERSTAND THIS AND IT IS THEREFORE, SPONSORING AND SUPPORTING THE NATIONALISTS. It doesn’t matter Russian or Caucasian. Any split lines that could divide Russia - nationalism, religion, attitude to the Soviet Union - there are many points where you can drive a wedge. And all this is directed against us. When Ukrainian nationalists won, they suddenly found out with surprise that life did not get better, but quite the opposite. That is why, in order to be an empire (no matter what it is called - the USSR, RI, RF), WE WILL HAVE TO FIGHT WITH ALL WHO TRY TO SEPARATE US - AND WITH ANY NATIONALISM IN THE FIRST TIME. hi
          1. The lead
            The lead 10 November 2015 15: 32 New
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            Quote: g1v2
            The USSR was split using nationalists, and the emphasis was on the Russians.
            Controversial statement: The idea of ​​the collapse of the USSR was voiced and adopted at the Bialowieza gathering, and then approved by our deputies (five deputies were only against it) .Thus, the Soviet Union was ruined by its elite, and the people were fed with sweet promises. As for Russian nationalists, there are a considerable number of them fighting in the Donbass, defending Russian national interests. It is in the interests of Russian nationalists to strengthen Russia, so your negative attitude towards them in this sense seems far-fetched. I do not at all try to whitewash the nationalists, for often They adhere to extremist methods and the right ideology.
            1. Insurgent LC
              Insurgent LC 10 November 2015 16: 14 New
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              [quote = Vedun] [quote = g1v2] The USSR was split using nationalists, and the emphasis was on the Russians. [/ quote] Controversial statement. The idea of ​​the collapse of the USSR was voiced and adopted at the Bialowieza gathering, and then approved by our deputies (five deputies were only against it). Thus, the Soviet Union collapsed its elite, and fed the people with sweet promises.

              they forgot only a small nyance that shot when they began to divide Ukraine on a national basis
              Already after the end of the revolution and the Civil War, during which the territory originally controlled by the UNR was at least doubled, the merits of which the Bolsheviks recognized and returned to Kiev M. Grushevsky, were additionally cut off from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR:

              in 1920 - the southwestern part of the Don Army Region (Makeevka, Amvrosievka); The village of Lugansk in the Don region with adjacent territories to the Seversky Donets River.

              In 1925 - Putivl uyezd (without Krupetskaya volost), Krenichanskaya volost of Grayvoronsky district and two incomplete volosts of Grayvoronsky and Belgorod districts of Kursk province.

              In 1926 - the Trinity parish of the Valuysky district of the Voronezh province, part of the Donetsk district of the North Caucasus region (the outskirts of the Stanichno-Lugansk region east of the Seversky Donets river).

              In 1945, the village of Daryino-Ermakovka and the village of Koshary, Krasnosulinsky District, Rostov Region.

              In 1954 - the Crimean region.
              although people never interested anyone, they were only hostages of the situation
              1. Now we are free
                Now we are free 10 November 2015 17: 37 New
                +3
                Эх капитан, Ваша правда сделали добро и не отошли во время, вот нас и "забрызгало благодарностью"...
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              3. The lead
                The lead 10 November 2015 20: 59 New
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                Quote: LPR Insurgent
                forgot only a small nyance
                Перечисленные вами факты передачи территорий не имеют связи с приведенными цитатами,поэтому ваше замечание "забыли"-бессмысленно.
                1. Insurgent LC
                  Insurgent LC 11 November 2015 02: 33 New
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                  Well, why is it pointless if from time immemorial the whole east of Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire, who guerrilla during the Great Patriotic War left-banked Ukraine, and to whom they shouted = suitcase station Russia = we don’t. We were never Ukrainians even mentally
                  1. The lead
                    The lead 11 November 2015 06: 57 New
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                    Quote: LPR Insurgent
                    well why is it pointless
                    Because there is no connection between the quotations you cited and your text? How much more to repeat so that it reaches you?
                    1. BEGA2015
                      BEGA2015 11 November 2015 10: 41 New
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                      "Потому что нет связи между приведенными вами цитатами и вашим текстом"- Тафтология какая-то. Вы думаете, что пишете? Цитаты это часть текста, т.е. сам текст. Я в принципе согласен с "Инсургент ЛНР". Нужно внимательно слушать и осмысливать сказанное (написанное) оппонентом, что к сожалению не все, в том числе и Вы, могут.
                      1. The lead
                        The lead 11 November 2015 12: 16 New
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                        Quote: BEGA2015
                        Quotes are part of the text, i.e. the text itself.
                        Это вы не думаете,что пишите.Была приведена цитата,затем комментарий,который начинался с фразы "забыли только маленький нюанс".То есть этой фразой утверждается,что имеется некий факт,который ставит под сомнение обоснованность приведенной цитаты или определяет ограниченность трактовки.Вместо раскрытия смысла фразы "забыли"выдается информация,которая никакого отношения не имеет к цитате,никак ее не опровергает и не дополняет.
          2. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 11 November 2015 18: 32 New
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            g1v2
            I support an absolutely correct understanding of the situation and actions of the Adversary.
      3. igordok
        igordok 10 November 2015 09: 36 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        I'm trying to understand where it comes from so many.

        Войны открывают подноготную, заставляют сделать выбор. Даже казалось-бы "мирные" 90-ые, и те заставили всех сделать выбор. Нам практически была объявлена война. Попытка спровоцировать гражданский и межэтнический конфликт, и кто-то на это поддался. А предательство, т.е. выбор между долгом и эгоизмом, сидит во многих. И если в младенчестве не дали должного направления, результат очевиден.
        1. SOLGA
          SOLGA 10 November 2015 11: 27 New
          +2
          Ilya Bogdanov, I remember, in general, not from Mother Russia, but from Belarus. And certainly not from the FSB (this fake ukrosmi exposed)
      4. RBLip
        RBLip 10 November 2015 11: 36 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Я не оправдываю предательство, я пытаюсь понять откуда оно такое многочисленное. Может быть от отсутствия должного наказания, причем всех, независимо от должностного положения, наличия "толстого кошелька" и "благополучного" отбытия и расположения там за границей, под иммунитетом иностранного паспорта?

        предательство - оно разное. кто то против России бежит воевать, а кто то... экономику разваливает, берет взятки, простите, ртом и .опой, кто то все это спускает на тормозах, кто то законы принимает,которые либо не действуют, либо напрямую против народа направлены. кто то чад своих распихивает по англиям и америкам, находясь на госслужбе. и таким кого то имя - легион. потому что они решили - им можно. поэтому грустно смотреть как бабка за пачку масла в "пятерке" от инфаркта помирает, а кто то, скомуниздив миллиарды по удо выходит, клипы попутно снимая. и это страшно...
      5. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 10 November 2015 13: 13 New
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        You might think that now there are fewer traitors in the government agencies that surrender Russia's interests to the West and America!
        THEIR SIMPLY DARKNESS !!! Apart from foreign agents, the CIA and other abominations, having the status of advisers to our ministries, etc.
        Tens of thousands of golem enemies! But the system that they built does not allow them to be destroyed and sent to hard labor under the law. Absurdity and surrealism! And the blame for all is greed and a desire to curl out in a curious way in this world of our traitors, collaborators - Chubaisyatins, hunchbacks, ebony, Kasyanov, Gudkov and dead Gaidar, Nemtsov and other rubbish who sold I would not for a snuff of tobacco. Critters!
        1. THE_SEAL
          THE_SEAL 10 November 2015 15: 06 New
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          Do not forget the Shatz and Lazarev, who teach their children to hate the leadership of the country.
      6. bif
        bif 10 November 2015 16: 23 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        The betrayal of Russia, the Russian people, unfortunately, has become, if not encouraged, then unpunished in post-Soviet Russia.
      7. Dad Uassia
        Dad Uassia 10 November 2015 21: 25 New
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        Well, county specialists can understand.
      8. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 11 November 2015 13: 47 New
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        And how much of this rabble is preparing to betray the homeland. They have already sent their scumbags there, bought houses, opened accounts. How many of them are still in power in different positions, district municipal and higher?
      9. sherp2015
        sherp2015 12 November 2015 18: 56 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Just remember how many traitors were in government agencies that handed over the interests of Russia to the West and the United States in their posts, and then faded there to the West, to the United States, England, sent their families there, their children educating them there to further settle there.
        How many young specialists, scientists have left for the USA, England to work in their military laboratories and design bureaus, and now creating weapons against us, Russia? Aren't they traitors?
        And unstable people from ordinary, ordinary citizens, looking at the impunity of this phenomenon, not having the ability to use their administrative, official, educational resource, are going to such a direct betrayal.

        I do not condone the betrayal, I try to understand where it is so numerous from.



        And how many of their hidden sits with us, including in the power structures, only occasionally flashing and wailing our country ....
    2. EngineerP
      EngineerP 11 November 2015 08: 41 New
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      Liquidators are simply necessary, if they are not there, it is necessary to recreate such a unit, one traitor should be publicly liquidated, many others will think about it! You cannot leave such crimes without punishment!
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 11 November 2015 14: 04 New
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        Quote: EngineerP
        The liquidators are simply necessary, if they are not there, it is necessary to recreate such a unit, to liquidate one traitor in public, many others will think

        Who will decide who lives and who dies? selection criteria? Well, the main question - who will guard the watchmen?
    3. BEGA2015
      BEGA2015 11 November 2015 10: 29 New
      +3
      Такие "борцы с Путиным" получают идеологическое воспитание также посредством целого ряда веб-сайтов. Есть например такой сайт "Агенство русской информации". Очень интересно, что сервер этого "агенства" находится в США. Мне могут возразить- зарегистрировать страницу можно на любом сервере. Однако это не так или не совсем так и что важно- националистические веб-сайты охотно регистрируются на западе- США, Польша и т.д. Вот так "раскачиваются" российское, белорусское, украинское, казахское и т.д. общества. Эти людишки просто используются "в темную" и сравнение оных с презервативом абсолютно верно!
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 10 November 2015 06: 12 New
    29
    I have never understood stubborn Russian nationalists who help kill ethnic Russian and Russian-speaking people of Slavic appearance, even left-wing views (although in the Donbass left-wing ideas are not even officially declared), along with Ukrainians who have assimilated your Russian sister cities for 20 years, having made of them Selyuk in the embroidery with the Russian surname and with the corrupted pronunciation of the Russian language. I am already silent about the spreading Greek Catholicism of Western Ukraine, but not about paganism, which such traitors of the Russian people often hide behind. What do these people have in mind? Damn it will disassemble ... am wassat
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 06: 22 New
      14
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      I never understood the stubborn Russian nationalists

      Не такие уж они сложные. те,кто к конце 20 века ходил в прикиде"аля гестапо" слились. Просто потому,что ненависть к ним у народа великая. а государство имело силы разогнать военизированные организации. А остальные типа этого...Уголовники,которые разгоняли дворников таджиков и издевались над одиночками. Свора бешеных псов,не более того.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 10 November 2015 06: 30 New
        17
        Quote: domokl
        Не такие уж они сложные. те,кто к конце 20 века ходил в прикиде"аля гестапо" слились. Просто потому,что ненависть к ним у народа великая. а государство имело силы разогнать военизированные организации. А остальные типа этого...Уголовники,которые разгоняли дворников таджиков и издевались над одиночками. Свора бешеных псов,не более того.


        Александр, это понятно. Но конкретно этот "герой" публикации вовсе не тупой скин, а ясно и четко излагается свои мысли где-то у себя на фейсбуке. Пытается он осмыслить процессы в украинец. и росс. обществах и т.п. Поэтому и возникает вопрос, что у него за каша в голове? Как он собирается нести флаг язычества к примеру, если на Украине, за которую он воюет, оф. религия по-сути греко-католицизм и раскольническое православие? Я уже молчу о еврее Президенте и еврее спикере парламента. И вообще, - каково воевать русскому националисту плечом к плечу с солдатом, который либо скверно знает русский, либо имеет яркий олокопольский диалект, против региона, где 90% общаются на русском языке? Я сейчас блевану... wassat
        1. domokl
          domokl 10 November 2015 06: 36 New
          +9
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          . And in general, what is it like to fight a Russian nationalist shoulder to shoulder with a soldier, that either knows Russian badly or has a bright Olokopol dialect against the region where 90% communicate in Russian? I vomit now

          You reason humanly. But it is necessary differently. Such stubborn ones are usually united in international units. not only Russians, but everyone else. Because even after dill, dill can shoot them. They hate fiercely.
          For them, the main thing is not man, but ideology. In the specific case, the main thing is to escape from punishment. I just don’t want to go to the zone.
          1. OlegLex
            OlegLex 10 November 2015 16: 22 New
            +4
            They are animals and they themselves perfectly understand this, and therefore understand that they have no place among people, so they run to where there is no law, first to Ukraine and then to ISIS
        2. Darkness
          Darkness 10 November 2015 06: 37 New
          +4
          By the way, the pagans very successfully fought on the side of the Donbass. Together with Muslims and Orthodox.
          1. domokl
            domokl 10 November 2015 06: 51 New
            13
            Here is another interesting to me. A nationalist, it seems that any nationality should be at the forefront. Not some political views. And then just a complete twist of the brain. Russian Nazi is fighting against the Russian people.
            Something does not grow together with the nationalists.
            1. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 10 November 2015 07: 00 New
              14
              Quote: domokl
              Here is another interesting to me. A nationalist, it seems that any nationality should be at the forefront. Not some political views. And then just a complete twist of the brain. Russian Nazi is fighting against the Russian people.
              Something does not grow together with the nationalists.


              Alexander, how do you like such a brain twist. Moscow, November 4 2015 year. Russian nationalists shout: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!
              Я удивляюсь одному, почему они не кричали: " Моск...й на ножи!" ??? Чего-то не до конца вывернулись))) Этнические русские на Украине, кто прошел украинскую школу и становление личности, спокойно кричат: "мос...лей на ножи!" Но всё равно, восхищаться селюковской культуре, не будучи на Украине, это еще тот выверт мозга!! wassat And it doesn’t matter that in the column it was possible to go to maydanutye from Ukraine The very fact: imperial flag, Moscow и Glory to Ukraine!!! ...

              1. Same lech
                Same lech 10 November 2015 08: 52 New
                12
                Moscow, the car, the gulag!
                All and forever !!!
                stop playing democracy with them already!
                After all, it was, in which case, the first to come out with a weapon against us!


                This is from a discussion on YouTube .....

                It is not worth the power to flirt with such an audience .... YANUKOVICH played out ....
                take all the participants on a video camera and a pencil as candidates for logging in KOLYMA.
                1. AleBors
                  AleBors 10 November 2015 15: 22 New
                  +1
                  Good idea... wink
              2. kotvov
                kotvov 10 November 2015 19: 42 New
                +3
                Russian nationalists shout: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes !, what they paid for, they shout. Do you really think that these, as it were, Russians have something sacred?
            2. Darkness
              Darkness 10 November 2015 07: 31 New
              15
              Punitive psychiatry was canceled, and so anything is hanging around, without observation.
              1. yastr
                yastr 12 November 2015 17: 58 New
                -1
                They need to apply punitive proctology :))))
          2. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 10 November 2015 09: 19 New
            +6
            When there is no clear state ideology that unites ideas, social and moral guidelines, values ​​precisely on the scale of state education, then all this is replaced by BELIEFS with personal or group beliefs.

            Не зря же в "новых" постсоветских Конституциях ЗАПРЕЩЕНА главенствущая идеология. В итоге имеем бардак в головах и проблемы в воспитании. Появлюятся идеологические течения радикального толка, типа религиозного фанатизма и экстримизма, агрессивного национализма и т.д.

            Although the basic reason for a lot is the violation of social sparseness and, as a consequence, moral values.
            The irritant of all is pseudo-power and pseudo-elite. But, unfortunately, a qualitative change in power and the socio-political system is possible only by force and with blood. History does not know other methods.
          3. AleBors
            AleBors 10 November 2015 15: 21 New
            0
            I support. I met several. Despite the complete confusion in spiritual values, they fight perfectly.
        3. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 10 November 2015 10: 52 New
          +2
          How is he going to carry the flag of paganism, for example, if in Ukraine, for which he is fighting, of. is religion essentially Greek Catholicism and schismatic Orthodoxy?
          Such people can be described in one word - degenerates.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 11: 33 New
            +2
            And what is schismatic Orthodoxy?
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 11 November 2015 00: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              And what is schismatic Orthodoxy?


              followers of the false Patriarch Filaret
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 11 November 2015 00: 41 New
              0
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              And what is schismatic Orthodoxy?


              followers of the false Patriarch Filaret
  3. Hubun
    Hubun 10 November 2015 06: 20 New
    +6
    one road to aspen
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 10 November 2015 06: 52 New
      13
      Oleg Zhdanov is a Russian who fought in the Donbas for Ukraine as part of one of the volunteer groups.


      I hope he gets his bullet in the near future ...

      there is no excuse for betrayal and I always wonder ...
      why General KARBYSHEV or General DENIKIN did not go to serve the enemies of RUSSIA and General VLASOV went ... that this is rot in the human character or fear for his life.
  4. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 10 November 2015 06: 33 New
    +7
    Недавно была статья про предателей тоже,их" бытовые тяготы и отсутствие законности и их "обман"" Вот и этот предатель также жалуется,рассуждает пафосно и философствует. Сетования об их "трудной" предательской жизни.Сожалею о людях, погибших по его вине. Бог наказывает уже предателей,ну и люди добавят! "Спасибо за рассказ.
  5. nozdrevat58
    nozdrevat58 10 November 2015 06: 36 New
    +6
    Checkboxes are already visible everywhere. Wolves do not know where to run? Yes, and disappointment with all he saw felt. Perhaps the war still teaches something. Even a man with the essence of a traitor begins to realize that further fate is nothing but the fate of an outcast. Outcast for everyone.

    Громко сказано "ВОЛК" Это не волки. Волки, где живут, не нападают. Это волки-позорные.
    1. perm23
      perm23 10 November 2015 06: 44 New
      +5
      These are jackals.
    2. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 06: 48 New
      +1
      ATOshnikov constantly have loud callsigns.
    3. igorka357
      igorka357 10 November 2015 06: 58 New
      +2
      Seriously? The wolf has a territory where he hunts and where the lair is located, in fact this whole territory is his house, there he hunts and eats! So do not be misled, because the yard of your house is also your idea, and your corridor .. But if figuratively you are right, wolves are shameful with an emphasis in the word wolves, the last letter!
  6. Sagittarius YaNAO
    Sagittarius YaNAO 10 November 2015 06: 38 New
    +9
    Many are known by their callsigns. Upon receipt of such services in the punitive, their passports are seized.

    Is it not these passports that Poroshenko waved from the rostrum.
    1. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 10 November 2015 16: 19 New
      +2
      maybe the rapporteurs threw off officially under various pretexts from the beginning of the conflict and to this day 56 citizens of the Russian Federation who were declared terrorists and accomplices of terrorists and participated in hostilities were detained and arrested, although who else should be argued
  7. Glot
    Glot 10 November 2015 06: 40 New
    +5
    And what about those generally write that? Not even a mention. So, the little man lived, was, and disappeared, ruining the air. That's all. It’s not worth remembering such ones.
    Everyone decides how to live his life, he decided to live it like that ... his right. All one back to win back nothing.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 06: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Glot
      And what about those generally write that? Not even a mention.

      Well no. That's what they count on ... We will punish here, kill a little and run away. and people will not know anything.
      You must write about such. And not only write, but also seek and plant. The traitor is terrible in that he may have imitators. All the same, no one bears responsibility for actions in the territory of another country
      1. Glot
        Glot 10 November 2015 06: 55 New
        +2
        Well no. That is what they are counting on ...


        Maybe you are right. To me personally, such little men are of little interest.
        And they have enough imitators. Yes, and many of these have no political motive, just people who have not found themselves, who do not want to work, who are thirsty for blood, and who, due to other factors far from politics, go where the war is and they don’t care on whose side and whom to kill. And political positions, this is most often just a screen for them, meaning nothing.
      2. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 10 November 2015 09: 31 New
        +7
        Quote: domokl
        and plant.


        Доброго дня, Александр! " Писать о них, искать"- с этим согласна. Может быть это- кровожадно, но я бы их стреляла на месте, т.к. смертной казни у нас нет, а от пожизненного могут отвертеться, " забугорные друзья" возведут в ранг " великомучеников" и тогда действительно у них " появятся подражатели". А так: " пытался громко жить, но тихо сгинул".
        1. domokl
          domokl 10 November 2015 18: 28 New
          +2
          repeat Tatyana, what about this, her mother, tolerance? A person needs to be educated ... everyones. There, or put in a corner ...
          But I like your train of thought good
  8. Darkness
    Darkness 10 November 2015 06: 47 New
    +8
    А, вообще, какой он, нафтк, "язычник".
    The main thing in paganism is the defense of the Motherland and the continuation and increase of its kind.
    And this is some, having read all kinds of trash.
  9. perm23
    perm23 10 November 2015 06: 53 New
    12
    And most importantly. As during the Great Patriotic War and now. These under the guise of some sort of principles, shoot and kill. Suppose you don’t like the regime, don’t like the president, the government, but why should you kill people, go prove, fight, choose another government, but no, he’s going to kill his own people. And what about the same Ukraine, that people in power are better than our rulers, no. It’s just these traitors and bandits who cover their essence in such a way. As before, the same forest brothers from the Baltic states or Bandera, the Vlasovites said that they were fighting the regime with Stalin, but they weren’t killing the regime, they were Russian men, Belarusians, Kazakhs, etc. And it’s not a mess in their head, just for the jackals are easier for them here, you can rob and expose yourself as a hero. And their insight comes immediately when they are put against the wall. Like in the movie Liberation, ours captured the Vlasovite who was sitting at the mill. As they said to shoot, he immediately remembered both his mother and his homeland and what made him. It's just people like that - scum.
  10. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin 10 November 2015 06: 55 New
    +6
    А что вы хотели? В соц.сети "Одноклассники" вообще "расцвело" "славянофильство" и под этим "славянским соусом" идут призывы свегнуть "жидовский режим Путина" и начать "чистить Русь от черных и жёлтых". Это идёт полная дискредитация и разжигание отвращения к русским как таковым! И многие начинают соглашаться с призывами! Вот она бомба изнутри России!
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 07: 04 New
      +2
      These freaks Russia-it is from Tverskaya to Vykhino))
    2. Romaniga
      Romaniga 11 November 2015 03: 42 New
      0
      There is one such thing here - RUSNAK
  11. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 10 November 2015 06: 58 New
    +3
    These condoms are the same as chikotila and everyone like him will mock a defenseless person over whom they have power. In a word, they need to be destroyed. They have nothing to do with politics.
  12. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 10 November 2015 07: 06 New
    +8
    Антисоветчик ВСЕГДА русофоб. Ненавидящий Россию и её культуру есть Враг кем бы себя он не называл. Фашизм любит облачать себя в "пристойные" формы, - нацболы, "русские националисты", необелогвардейцы, салафиты-ваххабиты, "бандеровцы-которых-внаукраине-нет" и прочая мерзость, повылазившая со всех щелей во время Перестройки и после предательского развала Советского Союза.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 07: 32 New
      +2
      Absolutely.
  13. Aleksiy
    Aleksiy 10 November 2015 07: 07 New
    +5
    У человека в голове гуано. Ну против Путина, ну против системы, ну не принимаешь засилие "чёрных" в России и их беспредел, но при чём тут жители Донбасса вообще не понятно, абсолютно никакой связи. Тут либо автор не договаривает, либо у хероя компасс сбит.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 18: 33 New
      +9
      But Russia is not black. they are only in the heads of Natsik. How can I call Kazan Tatar black if his grandfather beat me next to my German? There are more than 150 nationalities.
      Another thing is foreigners. they cannot always assimilate in our country. but this is their problem.
  14. Support
    Support 10 November 2015 07: 10 New
    +1
    Well, about how many again people of Jewish nationality and religion (Judaism) are in the Legislative and Executive Bodies, from the upper level to the lowest, up to the settlement settlements, it is noticeable and so. And for example, I have an association with the month of October, 1917, with the composition of the first Soviet government. I'm not talking about the oligarchs, all kinds of merchants, and of course about banks and other financial structures, at least if not the son and daughter of Zion, then obviously not Russian, or say not Slavic. What can I say - an example of Kagylavio (metrojet). Who are the founding owners? And then we are surprised at some things ........
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 18: 37 New
      +5
      And then the pick is weak to reason? Stalin Georgians, Khreschev and Brezhnev are more Ukrainians than Russians .. Gorbachev is also from the south ... combine harvesters.
      Only this bullshit. And the most nasty. The most petty. at that time we were one people. My mother sang Ukrainian songs in Ukrainian, never in her life having traveled to Ukraine. we were one people ..
  15. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 10 November 2015 07: 10 New
    +2
    on Aspen !!!!! trembling is not a man!
  16. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 10 November 2015 07: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: Aleksiy
    У человека в голове гуано. Ну против Путина, ну против системы, ну не принимаешь засилие "чёрных" в России и их беспредел, но при чём тут жители Донбасса вообще не понятно, абсолютно никакой связи. Тут либо автор не договаривает, либо у хероя компасс сбит.

    "против Путина", "против засилия чёрных", "против системы", - под такими лозунгами как раз и идёт пушечное мясо разваливать страну. Это всего лишь причина. Под такими же лозунгами и свергали законную власть в Ираке, Ливии, Египте, вна украине и сейчас в Сирии. Нужно быть полным негодяем чтобы вестись на это. Кто ведётся - тот и есть враг, пусть и оболваненный но враг.
    1. Aleksiy
      Aleksiy 10 November 2015 07: 31 New
      +7
      So the little article is a substitution of concepts. The author is trying to TAKE FOR RUSSIAN NATIONALISM some kind of vile chaos. For a Russian nationalist, the inhabitants of Donbass are the same Russians, and not enemies at all. And even more so, the modern ukgain power of the hetman valtsman is clearly not a model for respect. Someone simply in every possible way cheats on the very concept of the RUSSIAN NATIONALIST, even if it is such a mess as this article.
      1. domokl
        domokl 10 November 2015 18: 46 New
        +3
        А ничего,что герой статьи сам пишет о том,что он националист? И преследовался именно по "русской" статье?Жители Донбасса такие же русские? Согласен. А почему тогда герой статьи на противоположной стороне? понятие русский националист...Блин,я знаю множество русских людей.которых националисты с удовольствием повесят на ближайшей березе. просто потому ,что русского в них 0.Кроме любви к России.И знаю козлов.которые кичатся своей родословной ,но при этом назвать их по другомуц,кроме козлов ,не могу.
        When the concept of a nationalist appears in a multinational article, it must be burned out. burn with a hot iron. So that only a scar remains and no memory. And no matter what kind of nationalist it is. Russian, Tatar, Bashkir, Siberian, Kamchatka ... Nationality is not a criterion. A person can be good and bad, smart and stupid, his own and a stranger ... And the face of the face has nothing to do with it
  17. mr.vasilievich
    mr.vasilievich 10 November 2015 07: 22 New
    +4
    It is necessary to calmly and methodically track these traitors, make lists. The goal is subsequent punishment.
  18. leo3972
    leo3972 10 November 2015 07: 24 New
    +2
    Yes, brush our forehead with green paint (we are a humane nation) and to the wall.
  19. parusnik
    parusnik 10 November 2015 07: 33 New
    +5
    So here it is. Killing Ukrainians, this Anika warrior is fighting with Putin.... The traitors during the war years also declared, we are not at war with the people, but with Stalin .... The old otmaz ...
    1. Alexl
      Alexl 10 November 2015 09: 36 New
      0
      He seems to be on the side of the Ukrainians fighting and not against them.
      1. AlexeyL
        AlexeyL 11 November 2015 12: 43 New
        0
        He is not fighting on the side of the Ukrainians, but on the side of the Kiev junta, which he did not mention, mentioning only against what (or rather, whom) he is fighting.
        My family also sang Ukrainian songs, although it has nothing to do with Ukraine, except for its common homeland - the USSR. But I think this is not enough!
  20. Roust
    Roust 10 November 2015 07: 40 New
    0
    Неужели этим "бедолагам" хочется и дальше ощущать себя презервативами, отработанным материалом, который выбрасывается после использования....?
  21. German Titov
    German Titov 10 November 2015 07: 57 New
    +2
    Статье "плюсанул". На стороне карателей действительно воюют много россиян. В "Донбассе" даже "семейный подряд" был из г. Полярный (мои однофамильцы кстати). Не знаю, выжили после Иловайска. Там кроме русских (по национальности) и других хватает.
  22. duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 10 November 2015 08: 12 New
    0
    This is true ... Vocabulary runs out very quickly and is replaced by profanity.
  23. Monetniy
    Monetniy 10 November 2015 08: 18 New
    +2
    не ту сторону выбрал.Нужно было к викигам идти или в "Русич" и на стророне ДНР есть русские националисты язычники, но воюют они не за укроп американский.
  24. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 10 November 2015 08: 25 New
    +1
    Феномен "фашизма" в России и на Украине вообще-то интересен и по настоящему еще толком не изучался. Однако можно сказать, что этот "фашизм" зародился весьма своеобразно, а именно- он вырос из увлечения молодежи немецкой армией и техникой времен Второй Мировой войны. Может показаться странным, но это так. Немецкая армия той эпохи имеет невероятную привлекательность для мальчишек, уж и не знаю почему-скорее всего своей особой формой, своими культурными обычиями (типа нацистского приветствия)и правилами и конечно же своим оружием. Постепенно увлечение всем немецко-фашистским у таких пацанов переросло уже в самое настоящее преклонение перед этим и полное отрицание своего отечественного со всеми вытекающими последствиями.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 09: 33 New
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      Danunafik.
      Детям на протяжении долгого времени заливали про "кровавых упырей коммунистов" и "совок" и восхваляли добрых и справедливых немцев, которые несли порядок и пиво с сосисками.
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 10 November 2015 13: 04 New
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        Quote: Darkness
        Danunafik.
        Детям на протяжении долгого времени заливали про "кровавых упырей коммунистов" и "совок" и восхваляли добрых и справедливых немцев, которые несли порядок и пиво с сосисками.

        Where did you get about the Germans. Never said that. Even Novodvorskaya.
        1. Darkness
          Darkness 10 November 2015 15: 14 New
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          Are you responsible for all?
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 20: 21 New
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            Quote: Darkness
            Are you responsible for all?

            For all and do not. You wrote about the general situation? Or about the fact that someone said something in the gateway? Can you give a few quotes (well, at least 10 pieces), otherwise you write that the children LAST
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 10 November 2015 16: 06 New
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          Решили реабилитировать Новодворскую? Знаете,что говорила эта стерва? Тогда вспомните слова Новодворской про защитников "Белого дома" в 1993м,когда она,беснуясь,призывала их вешать на всех столбах,предварительно изувечив! Вот точно:Гитлер,Гиммлер,Пол Пот и прочая компашка "единомышленников" рукоплескала этим заявлениям-кто на том свете,кто...где-то!
          1. domokl
            domokl 10 November 2015 18: 53 New
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            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Do you know what this bitch said?

            About the dead, either good or nothing ... So be quiet ... Earth to her reinforced concrete ....
          2. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 20: 23 New
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            I am not rehabilitating anyone. It was about a specific thing, not about the White House. Therefore, he cited her as an example, even that she did not say anything like that. And she said that both regimes were worth each other. But this does not mean that Hitler is better. Both are worse
      2. domokl
        domokl 10 November 2015 18: 52 New
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        Quote: Darkness
        Детям на протяжении долгого времени заливали про "кровавых упырей коммунистов

        I do not agree. Filled in at school. and in the family that there was no grandfather, who on May 9 put a heavy jacket on his shoulders? there was no father, mother?
        it’s not in state education. The fact is that parents themselves agreed to such an interpretation of history.
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 11 November 2015 00: 46 New
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          Whose parents? I have never met a person in my life for whom May 9 is not a holiday. That's just the first time I encountered it. When the Nazis were shown on TV, I always wondered where they came from. In my opinion, they grew out of geeks, without any ideology in their heads, just sadists and scum bloodthirsty.
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    2. yastr
      yastr 13 November 2015 09: 36 New
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      Very controversial.
      In childhood, when they played war games, nobody wanted to play for the Germans :))
  25. nimboris
    nimboris 10 November 2015 08: 38 New
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    Well, not enough of what I expected, that’s crying
  26. Begemot
    Begemot 10 November 2015 08: 45 New
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    That is the Russian cellar.
    More precisely, it’s raked, it’s a cellar for good products, and it’s a cellar for slops. Article plus.
  27. Patriot 771
    Patriot 771 10 November 2015 09: 34 New
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    Страна должна знать своих героев и не только. Работы просто не убавится ближайшее время у СК. Отработанный материал (изд.№1) не имеет права на существование (коме как в огне утилизации). Всем тем "обиженным русским" кто взялся за оружие против действительно русских мой совет - валите куда подальше, там где вы, стоящие на коленях будете в фаворе. Представьте сколько сочувствующих соберётся вокруг таких. Именно это мы и наблюдали пару десятков лет тому назад. Все любят русских, но только когда им плохо.
  28. Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 10 November 2015 09: 37 New
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    Yeah. At first I began to read this article on VO and was directly surprised. Really really decided to publish a position on the Donbass of the opposite side. But everything turned out as usual. At least the author’s text, but 80% of the article’s comments, explaining to us what a scoundrel and traitor it is. Yes, and so it is clear that the traitor, but here, too, not the children gathered to bother them with propaganda, let us draw conclusions ourselves from reading the author’s text. Commentators have rightly compared the author of the article with the driven wolf, but is it worth it to rejoice? The current political leadership is absolutely NOT ABLE to work with the opposition, in fact, engaged in its radicalization. We do not have a positive opposition, which has its own alternative position, which can offer the current government its own view on problem solving. In our country there is the only true opinion of the Guarantor and the gray obedient mass, who heed him. The rest have no choice, either they should become a gray political mass, or they will be made of such driven wolves from them. I am surprised to see how my acquaintance, previously a very intelligent and sensible person, becomes a radical, and I won’t be surprised if he soon becomes the same driven wolf and traitor. But I want to ask another question, does Putin really not understand that by making traitors out of his own opposition, but at the same time showing an extreme degree of condescension to the Serdyukovs, Vasiliev and other crooks and thieves, he thereby splits and radicalizes society? Is the opposition, driven underground or even more so serving your enemy, much more dangerous than the opposition open and inclined to cooperate? What does our political system underestimate, steeped in theft and corruption, and only sound opposition thought will bring fresh blood, forcing the ruling elites to change? It is impossible to turn citizens into wolves and traitors if we really think about the good of the country, and not about maintaining our own power.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 19: 02 New
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      I wonder why such an opposition? Do you even understand what opposition is? there are oppositionists. and there are critics. And you confuse them. anyone can criticize. This is not at all difficult. The only difference between the opposition and this very anyone is that the normal opposition offers its own ways of developing society. Your solution to pressing problems.
      And what does our .. is this the most? Nothing ... Everything was lost, Putin is not going there, foreign countries will help us ... Maybe enough? They reminded us of 90. Enough of such help, but I don’t want enough.
      И не надо делать "умных"выводов про Васильеву и прочих Сердюковых.Есть закон и ,нравится нам это или не нравится,он должен исполняться. Не нравится решение-в прокуратуру со своими доводами. Мне вот не нравится,но доказать это юридически не могу. просто шиплю как змей из под колоды и всё.
    2. AlexeyL
      AlexeyL 11 November 2015 12: 54 New
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      Again, you need to tolerantly look at the betrayal?
      And the author’s text is in the link and you just need to click the mouse for this. And reprint here, I agree with the author of the article, there is no need.
    3. Travian
      Travian 11 November 2015 12: 59 New
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      кого загнали в опозицию? кого радикализовали? у гражданина, если есть мозги, то он делает все возможное для блага своей семьи законными способами и не ищет оправданий типа коррупция. А выбор между серой политической массой и кем там - "ЯРКОЙ ПОЛИТИЧЕСКОЙ ФИГУРОЙ" типа навального -разоблачителя, тоже делается соразмерно того, как индивидум понимает свое место в обществе, своих взглядов. и быть "серой массой" или предателем "серой массы" каждый сам определяет для себя. А вот почему человек выбирает быть предателем семьи, предков, крови, Родины (прошу не путать с понятием государства) тут на совести каждого предателя:обида на государство, на царя,
      the representative of the Central Committee of the CPSU, the president, that you were not appreciated, etc. And the idea that the state is driving the wolves is right - do not be a wolf. I did not authorize these wolves to defend my interests. And about the fact that the political leadership does not know how to work with the opposition ... the opposition represented by the government structures has an influence exactly proportional to its representation, and those who do not have representations such as the Union of Right Forces, parnassus, a bulk party, an apple and some other let them fight for the voter. other methods OUTSIDE THE LAW !!! otherwise, again, revolution, civil war, and what remains of Russia?
    4. yastr
      yastr 13 November 2015 09: 50 New
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      Nikolai, what kind of opposition is this?

      For me it looks like this.
      Meetings, therefore, were gathered, and from the stage a certain subject was broadcasting about how everything was bad with us. Am I damn living in another country? Did he say something new to me? No. This is not opposition, but gorlopanstvo.
      And some of my friends at one time picked up this infection to blame everything. Like they are the most observant, clever and open their eyes to everyone. And they are not observant, but fools. It’s not enough to shout about how bad everything is. If you can’t offer a solution, alternatives, it’s better to shut up, you’ll be a smart guy. And it’s easy to pour mud, anyone can.

      И ещё есть проблема. Из-за бугра мол преподносят нам, что мы не против русского народа, а против диктатора Путина. Очень важно понимать, что если нагнут их, то нагнут и всех нас, как уже бывало в 90-х. И что-то мне подсказывает, что как раз-таки верхушка все равно нормально устроится, а мы будем в таком случае в дерьме по висок. Поэтому, при всем моём неоднозначном отношении к власти, её нужно поддерживать. "Да, он - сукин сын, но это наш сукин сын".
  29. Doctorleg
    Doctorleg 10 November 2015 09: 42 New
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    А с чего Вы взяли, что война против ЛДНР это война против России. Я что-то такого региона России не знаю. Ну и про разницу между майданом и переворотом в ЛДНР. В Киеве были украинцы, а вот в ЛДНР без вооруженной "помощи" со стороны России (или россиян) все закончилось бы как в Харькове - ничем. В ЛДНР была не Нуланд с печеньками, а стрелков с автоматами. Ну и наконец. Все время твердят, что на Украине фашизм, подразумевая нацизм. При этом на украине говорят и пишут по русски без ущемления и русских не убивают по национальному признаку. В свое время в Крыму было только 2 школы, преподающие на украинском языке - видимо это много? Теперь нет ни одной. В самой России закрыли украинскую библиотеку. ибо не фиг... Если говорить по простому, та патриотизм - это желание для страны процветание. Ну и, конечно, действие. Только каждый это процветание видит по своему. Как и путь к нему. Одному кажется, что мощная и процветающая страна - государство с огромной армией, у которой в каждом океане по 50 авианосцев, АПЛ, 100500 танков и т.д. Из друзей - только армия и флот. Соседи и не только , особенно небольшие страны, должны бояться до дрожи в коленях. Другие отрасли, кроме ВПК, могут подождать. Люди готовы к лишениям. (Правда , пока сами не заболеют, например, раком). Другие представляют страну с передовой медициной, образованием и поддерживающей дружеские и равноправные отношения другими странами, вне зависимости от их размера.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 10: 06 New
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      But what cannot be a country with a powerful army and advanced medicine and education?
      And further. The weak always obey the strong.
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 10 November 2015 10: 30 New
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        Can. although the budget is not rubber. The United States has the most powerful army (at least on a budget). But ask how much health care costs are more than defense costs. In 2013, they amounted to 17% of GDP (and this is from their GDP), and in Russia-7%. A reduction of 2016% was announced for 10, and with our inflation, the real reduction is even greater. Today is November 10th, and in federal honey. the center where I work ran out of quotas for high-tech treatment methods (and so in most federal centers in Moscow). We record patients for the next year. OMS is generally laughter and tears. In general, I can write a whole novel about problems, but not once. The system in the USA is not perfect and there are big problems. But it stimulates the introduction of new methods and can provide the highest quality of treatment.
        Well, according to the second remark. In the jungle - yes, but I would not want to live in them. Well, the weak can unite.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 10 November 2015 12: 22 New
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          Quote: DoctorOleg
          Doctorleg


          Why are you incognito? Is Nadezhdin our most liberal Boris Borisovich? His most infamous, direct speech. stop
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 12: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: DoctorOleg
            Doctorleg


            Why are you incognito? Is Nadezhdin our most liberal Boris Borisovich? His most infamous, direct speech. stop

            In what sense is incognito? Oh no more than you, dear Lelek. Where is your friend, Bolek? But essentially?
        2. domokl
          domokl 10 November 2015 19: 10 New
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          Quote: DoctorOleg
          The system in the USA is not perfect and there are big problems. But it stimulates the introduction of new methods and can provide the highest quality of treatment.

          Doctor, you are twenty years late. We have already played that match. we have already been told how we should live. And, the most vile, we tried to live like this ... what it led you to, I think, it’s not worth talking. More, don’t want to. We will live as we feel comfortable. With problems, with small salaries, but with a proud soul. Thank God the Russian people have not yet changed their souls on their belly.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 20: 35 New
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            Maybe I didn’t exactly put it. It was about medicine and the healthcare system. You can’t imagine the difference. And what does the soul and belly have to do with it. I won’t speak for the USA - I was not there for long, but in Europe they did not exchange a soul for a belly. They come to the aid only to show you that you are in difficulty. They accept refugees, collect things and money. And it is in the mass. When the attacks occurred, then how many people themselves went to the square to show solidarity. Just do not write that they bombed. it's about people, not about government decisions
            1. a housewife
              a housewife 11 November 2015 01: 05 New
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              А ещё в вашей Европе мерзостей полно. однополые "супруги" родить никого сами не могут, но детей иметь хотят. Не самих детей, а как средство доказать (непонятно кому и зачем, себе, наверное), что они тоже настоящая семья. И как только кто-то из соседей, учителей, воспитателей показывает, что в затруднении - у соседей ребёнок плакал целых две минуты, или мама его очень балует и опекает(чрезмерная любовь, которая калечит психику ребёнка), так сразу власти приходят на помощь и забирают этого ребёнка у родителей. Даже если это мамы и дети - не их подданные, а российские. Это их душа? Передавать детей геям? Или засунуть в приют, где над ними издеваются? Медицина у них на уровне? Этого я не знаю, только с чужих слов. У нас здравоохранение плохое. Вы в нём работаете? Чем улучшили? Деньги от больных берёте? Или чиновник? Что хорошего сделали? Конкретно хочу знать. Насчёт сша. Соседи, уехавшие в штаты, зубки лечить приезжают сюда, хотя один из них там работает зубным техником. Или в Европе и штатах никто не болеет, не умирает? И бедных лечат также, как и богатых? У всех хватает денег и страховок? Почему я не верю?!
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            3. AlexeyL
              AlexeyL 11 November 2015 13: 07 New
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              And in the current state of medicine, the 90s did not contribute?
              Напомните, пожалуйста, какое было состояние медицины и ее финансирование в 90-е. В каком состояние было медицинское оборудование, здания мед. учреждений, подготовка кадров и, на конец, оплата труда медицинских работников. Да и сам "федеральный центр в котором Вы работаете" не подскажите когда образовался?
            4. ksan
              ksan 11 November 2015 14: 45 New
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              I won’t speak for the USA - I was not there for long, but in Europe they did not exchange a soul for a belly. They come to the aid only to show you that you are in difficulty. They accept refugees, collect things and money. And it is in the mass. When the attacks occurred, how many people went to the square themselves to show solidarity
              Ну да легко быть "благородным" по отношению к "ограбленым" да и то недолго repeat Те что "победней" и "благородства" поменьше, уже заборы строят и воинские заслоны ставят чтоб беженцы не дай бог их "идеальный" мир не нарушили. Даже те что "побогаче" и "по благородней" уже приюты жгут синем пламенем скоро и "мочить" начнут,возможно и в сортирах тоже, чтоб "показать солидарность" с теми кто "победней" hi
        3. ksan
          ksan 11 November 2015 14: 33 New
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          Today is November 10th, and in federal honey. the center where I work ran out of quotas for high-tech treatment methods (and so in most federal centers in Moscow). We record patients for the next year. OMS is generally laughter and tears. In general, I can write a whole novel about problems, but not once. The system in the USA is not perfect and there are big problems
          Well, you see, you yourself say that the States are not ideal wink ,а разве в России нечего не делается для улучшения здравоохранения? Есть предложения на "целый роман"? хотите помочь стране и здравоохранению? вперёд и с песней,то есть со своим "романом", в ОНФ, "гражданская инициатива", "открытое правительство" да ещё кучу гражданских объединений и сообществ по разным направлениям. Вот и проявите свою "гражданскую позицию" и стране возможно помогите. hi
          Well, according to the second remark. In the jungle - yes, but I would not want to live in them.
          К сожалению со времён сотворения МИРА это так. Сильный почти всегда прав, и историю пишут победители, и чтобы быть в "победителях" нужна сильная армия и флот или НАШУ историю напишут другие. fellow
    2. ksan
      ksan 11 November 2015 14: 14 New
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      Well and, of course, action. Only everyone sees this prosperity in his own way. Like the path to it. It seems to one that a powerful and prosperous country is a state with a huge army, which has 50 aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, 100500 tanks, etc. in each ocean. Of the friends, only the army and navy. Neighbors and not only, especially small countries, should be afraid to trembling knees. Other industries besides the military-industrial complex can wait. People are ready for hardship. (True, until they themselves become ill, for example, with cancer). Others represent a country with advanced medicine, education, and friendly and equitable relations with other countries, regardless of their size.
      Великая держава, такая как Россия, не может быть со слабой армией и флотом. Если не будет сильной армии и флота то будет не Великая Россия а будет куча маленьких княжеств скорей всего вассальных от Евросоюза(Германии), США или Китая в зависимости от место положения этого княжества.Наличие сильной армии не сколько не противоречит наличию "сильной" медицины и "сильному" образованию.И ещё - WORLD IS NOT FAIR and in HIM there will always be Strong and Weak countries, Great and Small and small and weak will always be afraid, afraid and try to make friends with Strong and Great, the WORLD is so arranged fellow
  30. atamankko
    atamankko 10 November 2015 09: 42 New
    +2
    There is no sin heavier than betrayal, not without reason they are on the ninth circle.
  31. mamont5
    mamont5 10 November 2015 10: 13 New
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    Такой "стон" - урок всем предателям.
  32. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 10 November 2015 10: 29 New
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    обычное дело. большинство россиян выбрало одну сторону конфликта, но нашлись выбравшие другую сторону. так было всегда, почти во всех войнах и конфликтах. выбравших сторону противника предавать их "анафеме" не надо, но при попытке возвращения на родину обязательно отлавливать и отправлять на отсидку, если их раньше не "успокоят" бойцы ЛНР и ДНР. еще было бы неплохо выработать взвешенный закон лишения гражданства.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 10 November 2015 11: 21 New
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      Quote: kill the fascist
      обычное дело. большинство россиян выбрало одну сторону конфликта, но нашлись выбравшие другую сторону. так было всегда, почти во всех войнах и конфликтах. выбравших сторону противника предавать их "анафеме" не надо, но при попытке возвращения на родину обязательно отлавливать и отправлять на отсидку, если их раньше не "успокоят" бойцы ЛНР и ДНР. еще было бы неплохо выработать взвешенный закон лишения гражданства.

      Я бы на отсидку отправлял всех воевавших- не зависимо от того на чьей стороне. Это люди, которые готовы убивать по каким-то надуманным причинам. Только не надо говорить, что защитники ЛДНР это делают в ответ. Кто первым открыл огонь точно неизвестно. Но одними из первых была группа Стрелкова, расстреляв офицеров СБУ. И вообще, всякие "мотороллы", как и другие, с другой стороны, мне не близки. Кстати, когда Украина говорит, что против нее воюет Россия наши руководители говорят, что Россия не является стороной конфликта. И на ВО начинают писать, что опять "свидомые" (ну нравится это слово русским "патриотам") увидели бурятскую танковую милицию. Но те, кто воюет на стороне "хунты" - предатели, потому что воюют против своих (т.е. против России). шизофрения опасная болезнь. надо определяться с позицией.
  33. Alagez
    Alagez 10 November 2015 10: 37 New
    0
    Lope traitors in power ?! Wagon and small trolley. Where to start!
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 10 November 2015 10: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Alagez
      Lope traitors in power ?! Wagon and small trolley. Where to start!

      Indeed, the entire US government is on the scaffold.
  34. Baloo
    Baloo 10 November 2015 11: 19 New
    +2
    . нарушил Уголовный кодекс страны. Какая политика? Но говорить о том, что сбежал от уголовной статьи, не так звучит, как "политический противник режима". Песня знакомая. У нас таких политэмигрантов половина Лондона. Но те с деньгами. А этот периферийный. Нищий.

    He wanted to hide from responsibility in Banderkraine, to gain citizenship by killing Ukrainians who did not want to submit to criminal authority.
    Предатель-это вполне определенный психотип людей, которые всегда хотят выглядеть перед "чужими" лучше чем они есть на самом деле.
  35. alex_sdc
    alex_sdc 10 November 2015 11: 25 New
    +5
    The hero of the article reminds me of the guy who nailed in protest of the current government in Russia NAILS to the cobblestones of Red Square Scrotum.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 11: 41 New
      +5
      На днях этот же "креативщик" облил бензином дверь в здание ФСБ и поджёг.
      It is a pity that they did not attach a moron.
      1. ksan
        ksan 11 November 2015 15: 04 New
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        Gloom (2) RU Yesterday, 11:41 ↑
        На днях этот же "креативщик" облил бензином дверь в здание ФСБ и поджёг.
        It is a pity that they did not attach a moron.
        Here is scream laughing А что в дурдом уже нельзя "креативщиков" определять??
  36. Wolka
    Wolka 10 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +1
    ... the traitor is always a disposable consumable, nothing more, but always attractive for a dirty job, because there is no garbage, there is only the difference in price ...
  37. Belousov
    Belousov 10 November 2015 12: 03 New
    +4
    Собаке собачья смерть. Тут вариантов быть не может. Но возникают другие вопросы. Какой он к черту националист если он язычник? В последние годы идет целенаправленное поливание грязью такого понятия "русский националист". Причем это происходит на фоне откровенного потакания нацменьшинствам, особенно кавказским. Уже заменили понятие татаро-монгольского ига на просто монгольское, с официальной формулировкой чтобы не оскорблять татар России. Такими темпами мы дойдем до того, что скоро в учебниках истории будут писать о том, как генерал Ермолов ездил на поклон к Шамилю. 282 ст УК. действительно является только антирусской. Получить ее очень просто. Ни одного дела против других национальностей по факту оскорбления русского не возбуждено. Или будут тут заливать какие все белые и пушистые и прецедентов не было? И теперь еще вот таких упырей пытаются выдать за "русских националистов", хотя никакой он к черту не националист, а обычный уголовник, стреляющий в русских.
  38. rusich
    rusich 10 November 2015 12: 08 New
    -1
    NATIONALISTS YOU WANT FOR YOURSELF YOURSELF YOU THE SAME RUSSIANS AND NOT UKRAINIAN NAKES
    1. Atemzug
      Atemzug 10 November 2015 12: 50 New
      +9
      Before being called Russian (yours), correct 6 errors in what you wrote.
  39. Atemzug
    Atemzug 10 November 2015 12: 48 New
    -2
    The author, Russia is not at war with Ukraine. What kind of betrayal are we talking about?

    If this citizen wants to die for the ideals that he invented for himself - his right.
    If the author does not agree with this citizen - the author’s right.
    But state secrets were not issued, subversive activities were not conducted, he did not fight against Russia.

    The whole article is the naked emotions of the author, who, in addition to replacing the passport, did nothing at the FMS. Otherwise, I would understand that the true enemies of the people are civil servants.
    1. soldner
      soldner 10 November 2015 13: 52 New
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      I agree that this individual cannot be called a traitor, he did not run away from military service, did not give out state and military secrets, did not participate in military operations against the Russian army, since the Russian army did not invade Ukraine. This is a person’s choice, true or not, we can evaluate only from the standpoint of personal beliefs. And from the point of view of law, the prohibition of an individual engaging somewhere in the service is a violation of his civil rights. Take it easy. But no one calls traitors hundreds of fighters that under the contract they go to the ranks of foreign PMCs, or serve in the Foreign Legion of France.
  40. Mestny
    Mestny 10 November 2015 14: 06 New
    -2
    It is not by chance that I made words about betrayal in the title. And I really think that a person who in any way harms his country is a traitor.

    The author writes.
    For the author’s information, it is correct to write in Russian IN Ukraine.
    "В Украине" используют в подавляющем большинстве махровые либералы и борцы с режимом, то есть борцы с нами, Россией и народом её населяющим. ( они много чего используют в идеологической части войны. но это одна из деталей, которую с маниакальным упорством, либо с особой идейной убеждённостью на базе финансирования можно выделить как основную (???)).
    Does an author using the expression of enemies of that country harm the country?
  41. soldner
    soldner 10 November 2015 14: 09 New
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    Вообще проблема иностранцев на чужой войне не нова, сколько пишется про наемников, добровольцев, контрактников. В большинстве случаев эмоциональные, идеологически мотивированные преобладают над трезвой оценкой, и это логично. Для грузин отряд украинцев "Арго" во время войны в Абхазии считался героями-добровольцами, что пришли на помощь грузинскому народу в борьбе против российской агрессии, а для абхазов это были гнусные наемники кровавого режима Шеварднадзе. И так в любом конфликте: кто за нас, тот доброволец, кто против - наемник. В жизни все сложней. Так, бойцы УНА-УНСО в 1992 году воевали плечом к плечу с казаками на стороне Приднестровья, а уже через год в Абхазии смотрели друг на друга через прицелы. Так же и с наемниками. Это древнейшая уважаемая мужская профессия. Остатки ее известны и в почете: швейцарская гвардия Ватикана, Иностранный легион Франции, гуркхи в армии Британии, белуджи в армии Омана. А вот военные преступления могут совершать солдаты регулярных вооруженных сил, и даже войска ООН. Примеров масса, в Канаде даже расформировали элитный парашютный полк, созданный в 1942 году: издевались над пленными, пытали малолеток в Сомали. Так что разбираться надо в каждом конкретном случае и по закону.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 10 November 2015 14: 53 New
      +3
      You can add about Basayev, who first fought on the side of the Abkhazians.
  42. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 10 November 2015 17: 14 New
    +1
    Ё-моё!Как всегда-деревянные буратины стараются замутить понятие "националист"!Не надо по любому поводу "делать" из националистов "мальчишей-плохишей"!Понятие "националист"можно сравнить с понятием "демократ":есть демократы,и есть демократы-"дерьмократы".Я обращаюсь к тем,кто ещё не "одеревенел":не может существовать нормальное национальное государство без определенной доли здравого национализма! Националист в нормальном смысле этого слова-это человек,который видит и понимает угрозы (в том числе и скрытые) своей стране,народу,государству;несмотря на запудривание мозгов,обвинения со стороны "либерастов" в правящем режиме.Отсутствие здравого национализма в национальных государствах Европы;"пропитка" Европы "либерастической" толерантностью привело к тому,что уже давно заговорили о том,когда же Европа(национальные государства)станет просто географическим понятием.Но вот случился этот пресловутый "миграционный кризис",и Европу стал Клевать" в жoпy некий петух.....конечно,истинные буратины ничего не осознали;но "окончательно не одеревеневшие" послали евротолерантность на кий и стали националистами-т.е. людьми,защищающими свою национальность,национальность своего государства.Даже глава Венгрии,незадолго до этого ратующий за близость страны с толерантным ЕС всеми членами организма,вдруг заговорил(и в этом проявил истинное здравомыслие),что венгерский народ не может иметь рядом с собой исламские анклавы,что это угрожает венгерской нации(т.е. проявил себя здравомыслящим националистом).Для России также существует подобная угроза;но ,к сожалению,правящий режим пытается закамуфлировать эту угрозу,"показывая пальцем" на русских националистов(людей,пытающихся защищать свою национальность,интересы своего народа,своего национального государства)с криком:"Ату их!" Я не спорю-есть В России немало людей,прикрывающихся вывеской русского национализма;а по сути являющиеся национальными предателями.Но надо "зрить в корень"!
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  44. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 10 November 2015 17: 25 New
    0
    Natsiks, liberals, radicals, etc. are used in geopolitics by the sims for the collapse of countries, the enemy is ready to invest in them a myriad of money naturally with subsequent profit, and those who manage this cattle perfectly understand this
    1. soldner
      soldner 10 November 2015 19: 37 New
      -1
      В принципе возражений нет, но правильно писать "семиты". Русский язык надо уважать.
  45. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 10 November 2015 17: 49 New
    +4
    У России такая судьба- быть многонациональной империей. Причем, в отличии от США, куда все "понаехали" и живут вперемешку, в России все национальности имеют свою землю, где могут жить по своим местным правилам и обычаям, но, при этом, передвигаться по всей стране. Уродов много в каждой нации, но взращивать национализм - это приведет к развалу страны и тогда нас просто разобьют всех - по-одиночке.
  46. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 10 November 2015 17: 52 New
    0
    Where it will be necessary to throw away what we do not need (ready traitors and potential traitors) is a question.

    это не "вопрос". Всё продумано и имеются хорошие наработки: после ВОВ отлично работали органы по выявлению всех предателей и воздаяние им по заслугам.
    And this must be done (in contrast to past times) publicly and not to hush up the names and their deeds against Russian people.
    I would also add, after their legal imprisonment, a complete defeat in civil rights.
  47. Appraiser
    Appraiser 10 November 2015 17: 58 New
    0
    Любой национализм: назовем его "хоть белым, хоть чёрным", это дорога в никуда.... Просто слишком много развелось "либерал идиотов" которые играют на чувствах общества, выдавая геополитические интересы одного класса над другим, при этом заворачивают в эту "обёртку" совсем другие цели и задачи. А дураков "мягко выражаясь идиотов" озабоченных национальной идеей всегда хватало.... hi
    1. ava09
      ava09 10 November 2015 18: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Appraiser
      А дураков "мягко выражаясь идиотов" озабоченных национальной идеей всегда хватало....

      Being an elephant, you cannot invade a china shop ...
  48. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 November 2015 18: 25 New
    0
    He made a choice, no one forced him ...
    In short, in Magadan this.
  49. ava09
    ava09 10 November 2015 18: 30 New
    +1
    (C) And I don’t want to consider him an officer at all.
    Only the military man who has the HONOR can be considered a real officer. But traitors are not.
  50. mekhavova
    mekhavova 10 November 2015 18: 42 New
    +2
    Guys! And the hunt for you nonhumans spend ink? They themselves will die out, like mammoths
    1. soldner
      soldner 10 November 2015 19: 44 New
      +3
      Of course, this instance is the concern of the FSB, but since the topic has touched many, let them speak out. For all the hostility toward him, one must act according to the law, unless he gets caught in battle in battle.
    2. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 19: 46 New
      0
      soldier But these are pipes. They will die out with our help ...