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Confession of a traitor: how Russian nationalism is buried in Ukraine

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We often give the floor to those who are fighting in the army of Donbass. We discuss the situation with them. We more or less understand these people. But we do not know at all about those who are fighting on the side of the punitive battalions of Ukraine. And there are enough of them. And not only from Russia, but also from Belarus, from Kazakhstan and other former Soviet republics. They really fight not for fear, but for conscience. Many are known by their call sign. Upon receipt of such service in the punitive they have their passports withdrawn. However, their real names and surnames are probably known only to special services. The more interesting it will be to learn the "insides" of one of these fighters.


Confession of a traitor: how Russian nationalism is buried in Ukraine


It was not by chance that I made words about treason in the title. And I really think that a person who in any form is harmful to his country is a traitor. And participation in hostilities in the Donbas against the people's republics is no different from participation in the war against their own state. And as if modern "Vlasov" and "Frost" did not try to put themselves on a par with the Spanish 30 volunteers of the last century, everyone understands perfectly well - they supported those who seized power in the wake of the coup. They support the junta.

The interview of this once Russian nationalist was published on the Ukrainian Observer website (Russia is an inverted world: as a resident of Vladivostok, fought for Ukraine). And the reason for this interview is not that the traitor wanted fame. It’s not even that he is very concerned about the fate of Ukraine as a state. Everything is much more prosaic. The wolf saw the flags. Sorry for hunting associations. The forest (in the Ukrainian version of the steppe) suddenly became hostile. Those who were born and lived earlier in this steppe can hide in their “minks”. They are at home. And the wolf is not. His house is far away. But he betrayed him. And now, seeing the flags, I realized: hunters are close. And nowhere to run.

What you read is rather a plea of ​​traitors to the Ukrainian president and government for at least some official status. Otherwise, the deportation to the native “forest” and the camp for a decent time. And by no means pioneer.

Oleg Zhdanov is a Russian who fought in the Donbas for Ukraine as part of one of the volunteer formations. Most of his life he was engaged in arts and crafts, through which he went into paganism.

In his native Vladivostok, he helped like-minded people who brought criminal cases under the so-called “Russian article” - the 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. For those who are not particularly knowledgeable in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, article 282 is to incite hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity. The article is quite interesting. Nationalists call it Russian. It was she who became the main in the fight against nationalism.

How do such people get into battalions? What is the reason for such a rebirth?

"Look, here история This: at first I went to Ukraine as a political emigrant. After that, I helped in one of the volunteer training centers, then I went to the Donbass. Volunteer is my official status in the ATO zone, but it is clear that I did a little bit other things there. "

I think it is clear what lies behind the beautiful "political emigrant." The man violated the Criminal Code of the country. What is the policy? But to say that he escaped from a criminal article does not sound like a "political opponent of the regime." The song is familiar. We have half of London such political emigrants. But those with money. And this peripheral. Beggar.

"Officially, we were going to help dig trenches, but we had to constantly shoot unofficially. We had machine guns, machine guns, grenade launchers — that is, average weaponexcept heavy. "

Poor Russian, Belarusian, Kazakh and other traitors. The entire battalion has heavy weapons, but they are not given. Not Ukrainians. But in fact, this phrase is addressed specifically to Ukrainians. More precisely, the government of Ukraine. See what good soldiers we are? We don’t really need anything. We can and small arms Tanks stop. But you do not grant us citizenship.

"In the first couple of weeks in Ukraine, we tried to get the status of a political émigré, but things are terrible here. You go out into the street - all people support you, it comes out very cool. And you come to the migration service and you understand that the people who sit there, they take a frankly pro-Russian position. Formally, it gives refugee status, but in two cases: you must either be killed on the territory of Russia or imprisoned. The third is not given. This is such a migration policy of the state. "

The state does not want to recognize the traitors? Even a state like Ukraine? What, tell me, is it so surprising and incomprehensible here? Betrayed time - will betray the second. Then the third. The traitor is the essence of man. We know many examples from our history. Each of them believes that betrays only once. But in fact, all life turns into a series of betrayals.

It is very interesting to understand the ideological background of betrayal. In the movies and newsreels, we know that in the Great Patriotic War the majority of traitors were from the ideological, offended by the Soviet authorities. Vlasov, by the way, is more likely an exception from the general list. Or those who most recently "became part of the USSR." Some of them simply looked for opportunities to run across to theirs. And now?

"It's about how to turn on 180 degrees. A very big difference is that you are fighting on the territory of Ukraine against Ukraine or for Ukraine. If you are fighting against Ukraine, you are fighting, in fact, for the Putin regime. And if you are fighting for Ukraine, you automatically fight against Putin's regime.

Another question, I must admit that the population of Russia really turned out to be deceived. But here it is logical that they are deceiving you, and do not be deceived. Why didn't I manage to cheat? Why my like-minded people could not fool? There is only one option - in Russia there is a pathological amount of indifferent people. "


So that's it. Killing Ukrainians, this Anika-warrior is at war with Putin. Fighting with us. That is exactly the "changeling", which I mentioned above. The revolution in Kiev was made according to the law, but education in the same way LDNR - no. What is it said for? Probably, in order to inspire Svidomo Ukrainians that Russia has a strong opposition. Just someone left to fight, and the rest are fighting underground. Although Ukrainians are more understandable "in the cellar." They train their own to fight from the caches. What is the Russian cellar.

But there are interesting moments in this interview. Especially the arguments about the Ukrainian state and its goals.

"The Ukrainian state does not have a goal to win the war, it does not have a goal to legalize foreigners in ATO or political emigration. Such structures have goals that are generally amorphous. These structures are sick and partially parasitic. And what could be the goal there? they had less trouble and problems.
And the goals of those in power are to stay in power. What goal can they have? Imagine, in the country of their maydanovtsy a dime a dozen, and then conscious people come from other countries. Naturally, they would somehow get rid of their own, but also foreigners would crawl. "


Here! Parasites on the body of Ukraine are obtained in power. They are going to "conscious and active" to help Ukraine win in an unequal struggle, and Ukraine, it turns out, is not necessary. No matter how much anyone called them to fight for Ukraine, they themselves drew themselves. It turns out that the epiphany comes to these conscious heads, and it is already too late to drink Borjomi.

Checkboxes are already visible everywhere. Wolves do not know where to run? Yes, and disappointment with all he saw felt. Perhaps the war still teaches something. Even a man with the essence of a traitor begins to realize that further fate is nothing but the fate of an outcast. Outcast for everyone.

And as an officer, I was rejected by the following: “Although those lads who had a military education, like Ilya Bogdanov (senior lieutenant of the border guards of the FSB of the Russian Federation) who fought in the Donbas for Kiev,“ cyborg. ”In March of this year, Petro Poroshenko signed a decree on providing he is of Ukrainian citizenship), they in passing, without any policy, went to the ATO zone ".

I do not want to write about my attitude to this person. And in general I do not want to consider him an officer. The traitor of the "civil" is disgusting, but it happens. Somewhere they were not taught, somewhere they were offended, somewhere they were not brought up. But the officer, and even the border guard ... It's a shame both for the state and for the servicemen.

Nuance smelled? Someone without politics just went to war - the "gently begging." And who has a politician or a “politician” hanging behind his back, the Ukrainian authorities are somehow cautious with those.

An article about a traitor is always written difficult. Vocabulary runs out very quickly and is replaced by profanity. It is difficult to delve into the soul of man from manure. It does not work not to get dirty. But you need to write about these former people. To our memory retained not only the feats of heroes, but the meanness of the traitors. So that after many years it didn’t work out the way it happened in Ukraine. Traitors and murderers of their people suddenly became heroes, and heroes traitors.

This is not in the direction of living in Ukraine, in any part of it. This already applies to us living in Russia. How will it be on or in Ukraine - half the battle. And our main task is to draw appropriate conclusions for the future.

And for the first time I will write an impossible phrase for myself. Correctly Poroshenko does, not satisfying the requests of these renegades for citizenship. Indeed, in Ukraine, their maydaunov enough. And dilute them with foreigners is not worth it. They are like condoms. At some point, very much needed. But after this point they are simply thrown away.

Where we will have to throw away what we don’t need (ready-made traitors and potential traitors) is a question. But a matter of time, I hope.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 10 November 2015 06: 09
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    Such are the "individuals", just a consumable. That's the whole story. They are not needed by any government in peacetime, they can be used sometimes, but they can be accepted into "your flock" - neither. And this is not the only story of such a "hero" fighting for the ideals of the "white race". Their fate is to disappear somewhere in another war for a wrong cause
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 10 November 2015 07: 16
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      The betrayal of Russia, the Russian people, unfortunately, has become, if not encouraged, then unpunished in post-Soviet Russia.
      Just remember how many traitors were in government agencies that handed over the interests of Russia to the West and the United States in their posts, and then faded there to the West, to the United States, England, sent their families there, their children educating them there to further settle there.
      How many young specialists, scientists have left for the USA, England to work in their military laboratories and design bureaus, and now creating weapons against us, Russia? Aren't they traitors?
      And unstable people from ordinary, ordinary citizens, looking at the impunity of this phenomenon, not having the ability to use their administrative, official, educational resource, are going to such a direct betrayal.

      I do not condone betrayal, I am trying to understand why it is so numerous. Maybe from the lack of proper punishment, and all, regardless of official position, the presence of a "fat wallet" and "safe" departure and location there abroad, under the immunity of a foreign passport?
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      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 10 November 2015 09: 03
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        Thanks for the article Roman. Also, guys were always interested in similar personalities described in the article. Particularly touched by Russian nationalists fighting on the side of the Kiev Junta ... They are Ukrainians in person -Mos.kalyaku on gilyaku! and they answer them -We came to help you brothers fight against Putin! I understand and welcome the finding of Russian nationalists of orthodox Slavs in the LDPR army as the Junta openly proclaimed with its slogan -Mos.kalyaku on gilyaku! Those. all Russian is not in the territory of the former Ukraine.
        BUT I can’t understand these same people fighting on the side of Kiev with the same success they could be in their apartment in Moscow, Pyatigorsk, Khabarovsk or Vladivostok with a cry -Glory to Ukraine! -Hang, i.e. kill yourself for the glory of Ukraine in spite of Russia (while being a citizen of Russia) wassat
        Ukraine, like activated carbon, pulls out of Russia all the r ... starting from the "Russian nationalists" (which automatically cease to be:
        1.RUSSIANS, when they begin to fight against the "Russian / Slavic world" for a country with a pro-fascist regime where power is ATTENTION -Even there are no ethnic Ukrainians: Georgians, Americans, Armenians, Jews, Latvians, BUT NO UKRAINIANS).
        2.NATIONALISTS because they fight against their nation and become fascists, cosmopolitans, or simply "haters outrageous" -Like a "Tornado" fighter named Mozdakhed (Belarusian by nationality, a Nazi who suddenly became an Islamist ...)
        In addition to the above category, Ukraine, like a pump, incorporates other Russophobes and simply sick and selfish people, who have been in the territory of the Russian Federation for so many years and crap Russia despite living, working, studying, eating, getting married / giving birth, giving birth to children in this country...
        Don't you like Russia? Leave, calmly finding work abroad, transporting your relatives there (if they want to leave) and live happily. I would do so, for to say that everything is around r ... BUT at the same time staying in the midst of this r ... and moaning ak- TANTAL is a lie primarily to yourself and self-humiliation feeds on the hands of the one you hate with all the fibers of the soul ...
        Thanks to Ukraine for sucking such individuals like a giant magnet. The only thing I really would not want all these: geniuses, "Rays of Freedom", real journalists such as: G ... Polsky, Gaidar, Shuster, etc. returned back to Russia with snot and tears in the eyes of a mumbled -We were wrong / we helped Russia "drown" Ukraine / our knowledge and skills will be useful to Russia ...

        No guys, as said in one old book -A betrayer once ...
        1. The lead
          The lead 10 November 2015 12: 12
          -2
          Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
          in any form harmful to his country - a traitor
          You would have to make a reservation how the Russian Federation is harmed by this entity. There is a contradiction here, you don’t consider the Russian Federation as a party to the conflict in the Donbas, if so, how does it damage the Russian Federation? From the Russian point of view, the conflict in the Donbass pursues the goal of uniting the Russian world and the Russian people in a single state. It was precisely this goal that I. Strelkov pursued with his comrades who became detonators of the popular uprising in the Donbass against the Kiev junta. caused a conflict between them. An attempt to escape from confrontation by Strelkov was unsuccessful, therefore, recently he has openly acted as an oppositionist who has consistently upheld national teres people. What we have now in the Donbass: on the one hand and on the other hand, Russians and Ukrainians are killing each other. Russian warriors for Kiev are in favor of maintaining the integrity of the Ukrainian state. Yes, Ukraine has many problems, but let us deal with them ourselves, the Russian Federation does not have the right to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine. Thus, on the one hand there are supporters of a single state who consider the collapse of the USSR illegal and criminal, on the other hand, consider the collapse of the USSR an accomplished historical fact that is not subject to revision, therefore, consider Ukraine as it’s clear that the supporters of a single state reflect the national interests of the Russian people, therefore it’s true that this is the secret to the success of the heroic defense of Slavyansk and Donbass as a whole. The supporters of sovereign Ukraine are in fact separatists playing into the hands of Ukrainian fascists-Bandera and the Ukrainian elite, which is not Ukrainian at all in ethnic composition. The supporters of sovereign Ukraine are traitors, how they oppose the national interests of their people.
          1. Mister22408
            Mister22408 10 November 2015 21: 11
            +5
            Halogen blood groups ... The purpose of strangers is to make active local Indians perekolbulsya each other (to remind the country? And who doesn’t drive it without actors? And if the Senate committee is reduced to a bathhouse? :-))
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 10 November 2015 14: 57
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          Everything is pretty straightforward. The USSR was split using nationalists, and the emphasis was on the Russians. Enough to feed those, these, and why do we need those and so on. And the state is an organism and Russian is the skeleton of the Russian Federation. Is it possible to live without an arm or leg or without a kidney? Of course, but will this make the body stronger or healthier? OUR ENEMIES UNDERSTAND THIS AND IT IS THEREFORE, SPONSORING AND SUPPORTING THE NATIONALISTS. It doesn’t matter Russian or Caucasian. Any split lines that could divide Russia - nationalism, religion, attitude to the Soviet Union - there are many points where you can drive a wedge. And all this is directed against us. When Ukrainian nationalists won, they suddenly found out with surprise that life did not get better, but quite the opposite. That is why, in order to be an empire (no matter what it is called - the USSR, RI, RF), WE WILL HAVE TO FIGHT WITH ALL WHO TRY TO SEPARATE US - AND WITH ANY NATIONALISM IN THE FIRST TIME. hi
          1. The lead
            The lead 10 November 2015 15: 32
            +6
            Quote: g1v2
            The USSR was split using nationalists, and the emphasis was on the Russians.
            Controversial statement: The idea of ​​the collapse of the USSR was voiced and adopted at the Bialowieza gathering, and then approved by our deputies (five deputies were only against it) .Thus, the Soviet Union was ruined by its elite, and the people were fed with sweet promises. As for Russian nationalists, there are a considerable number of them fighting in the Donbass, defending Russian national interests. It is in the interests of Russian nationalists to strengthen Russia, so your negative attitude towards them in this sense seems far-fetched. I do not at all try to whitewash the nationalists, for often They adhere to extremist methods and the right ideology.
            1. Insurgent LC
              Insurgent LC 10 November 2015 16: 14
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              [quote = Vedun] [quote = g1v2] The USSR was split using nationalists, and the emphasis was on the Russians. [/ quote] Controversial statement. The idea of ​​the collapse of the USSR was voiced and adopted at the Bialowieza gathering, and then approved by our deputies (five deputies were only against it). Thus, the Soviet Union collapsed its elite, and fed the people with sweet promises.

              they forgot only a small nyance that shot when they began to divide Ukraine on a national basis
              Already after the end of the revolution and the Civil War, during which the territory originally controlled by the UNR was at least doubled, the merits of which the Bolsheviks recognized and returned to Kiev M. Grushevsky, were additionally cut off from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR:

              in 1920 - the southwestern part of the Don Army Region (Makeevka, Amvrosievka); The village of Lugansk in the Don region with adjacent territories to the Seversky Donets River.

              In 1925 - Putivl uyezd (without Krupetskaya volost), Krenichanskaya volost of Grayvoronsky district and two incomplete volosts of Grayvoronsky and Belgorod districts of Kursk province.

              In 1926 - the Trinity parish of the Valuysky district of the Voronezh province, part of the Donetsk district of the North Caucasus region (the outskirts of the Stanichno-Lugansk region east of the Seversky Donets river).

              In 1945, the village of Daryino-Ermakovka and the village of Koshary, Krasnosulinsky District, Rostov Region.

              In 1954 - the Crimean region.
              although people never interested anyone, they were only hostages of the situation
              1. Now we are free
                Now we are free 10 November 2015 17: 37
                +3
                Eh captain, your truth did good and did not leave on time, so we were "spattered with gratitude" ...
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              3. The lead
                The lead 10 November 2015 20: 59
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                Quote: LPR Insurgent
                forgot only a small nyance
                The facts of the transfer of territories listed by you have no connection with the quoted quotations, therefore your remark "forgotten" is meaningless.
                1. Insurgent LC
                  Insurgent LC 11 November 2015 02: 33
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                  Well, why is it pointless if from time immemorial the whole east of Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire, who guerrilla during the Great Patriotic War left-banked Ukraine, and to whom they shouted = suitcase station Russia = we don’t. We were never Ukrainians even mentally
                  1. The lead
                    The lead 11 November 2015 06: 57
                    -6
                    Quote: LPR Insurgent
                    well why is it pointless
                    Because there is no connection between the quotations you cited and your text? How much more to repeat so that it reaches you?
                    1. BEGA2015
                      BEGA2015 11 November 2015 10: 41
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                      "Because there is no connection between the quotes you cited and your text" - Some kind of taftology. Do you think you are writing? Quotes are part of the text, i.e. the text itself. In principle, I agree with Insurgent LPR. It is necessary to listen carefully and comprehend what is said (written) by the opponent, which unfortunately not everyone, including you, can.
                      1. The lead
                        The lead 11 November 2015 12: 16
                        -1
                        Quote: BEGA2015
                        Quotes are part of the text, i.e. the text itself.
                        You don’t think you’re writing. A quotation was given, then a comment that began with the phrase “only a small nuance was forgotten.” That is, this phrase states that there is a fact that casts doubt on the validity of the quoted quotation or determines the limited interpretation. disclosing the meaning of the phrase "forgotten" is given information that has nothing to do with the quote, does not refute or supplement it.
          2. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 11 November 2015 18: 32
            -2
            g1v2
            I support an absolutely correct understanding of the situation and actions of the Adversary.
      3. igordok
        igordok 10 November 2015 09: 36
        +6
        Quote: vladimirZ
        I'm trying to understand where it comes from so many.

        Wars reveal the ins and outs, make you make a choice. Even the seemingly "peaceful" 90s, and those forced everyone to make a choice. War was practically declared on us. An attempt to provoke civil and interethnic conflict, and someone succumbed to it. And betrayal, i.e. the choice between duty and selfishness sits in many. And if the proper direction was not given in infancy, the result is obvious.
        1. SOLGA
          SOLGA 10 November 2015 11: 27
          +2
          Ilya Bogdanov, I remember, in general, not from Mother Russia, but from Belarus. And certainly not from the FSB (this fake ukrosmi exposed)
      4. RBLip
        RBLip 10 November 2015 11: 36
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        I do not condone betrayal, I am trying to understand why it is so numerous. Maybe from the lack of proper punishment, and all, regardless of official position, the presence of a "fat wallet" and "safe" departure and location there abroad, under the immunity of a foreign passport?

        betrayal is different. someone runs to fight against Russia, and someone ... is ruining the economy, taking bribes, excuse me, with his mouth and. Whoa, someone is putting all this on the brakes, someone is passing laws that either do not work, or are directed against the people directly. Someone shoves their children across England and America, being in the civil service. and such someone's name is legion. because they decided - they can. That is why it is sad to watch how a grandmother dies from a heart attack for a pack of oil in the top five, and someone, having worked together billions of dollars in udo, comes out, simultaneously filming clips. and it's scary ...
      5. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 10 November 2015 13: 13
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        You might think that now there are fewer traitors in the government agencies that surrender Russia's interests to the West and America!
        THEIR SIMPLY DARKNESS !!! Apart from foreign agents, the CIA and other abominations, having the status of advisers to our ministries, etc.
        Tens of thousands of golem enemies! But the system that they built does not allow them to be destroyed and sent to hard labor under the law. Absurdity and surrealism! And the blame for all is greed and a desire to curl out in a curious way in this world of our traitors, collaborators - Chubaisyatins, hunchbacks, ebony, Kasyanov, Gudkov and dead Gaidar, Nemtsov and other rubbish who sold I would not for a snuff of tobacco. Critters!
        1. THE_SEAL
          THE_SEAL 10 November 2015 15: 06
          +6
          Do not forget the Shatz and Lazarev, who teach their children to hate the leadership of the country.
      6. bif
        bif 10 November 2015 16: 23
        +7
        Quote: vladimirZ
        The betrayal of Russia, the Russian people, unfortunately, has become, if not encouraged, then unpunished in post-Soviet Russia.
      7. Dad Uassia
        Dad Uassia 10 November 2015 21: 25
        0
        Well, county specialists can understand.
      8. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 11 November 2015 13: 47
        +2
        And how much of this rabble is preparing to betray the homeland. They have already sent their scumbags there, bought houses, opened accounts. How many of them are still in power in different positions, district municipal and higher?
      9. sherp2015
        sherp2015 12 November 2015 18: 56
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        Just remember how many traitors were in government agencies that handed over the interests of Russia to the West and the United States in their posts, and then faded there to the West, to the United States, England, sent their families there, their children educating them there to further settle there.
        How many young specialists, scientists have left for the USA, England to work in their military laboratories and design bureaus, and now creating weapons against us, Russia? Aren't they traitors?
        And unstable people from ordinary, ordinary citizens, looking at the impunity of this phenomenon, not having the ability to use their administrative, official, educational resource, are going to such a direct betrayal.

        I do not condone the betrayal, I try to understand where it is so numerous from.



        And how many of their hidden sits with us, including in the power structures, only occasionally flashing and wailing our country ....
    2. EngineerP
      EngineerP 11 November 2015 08: 41
      +1
      Liquidators are simply necessary, if they are not there, it is necessary to recreate such a unit, one traitor should be publicly liquidated, many others will think about it! You cannot leave such crimes without punishment!
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 11 November 2015 14: 04
        0
        Quote: EngineerP
        The liquidators are simply necessary, if they are not there, it is necessary to recreate such a unit, to liquidate one traitor in public, many others will think

        Who will decide who lives and who dies? selection criteria? Well, the main question - who will guard the watchmen?
    3. BEGA2015
      BEGA2015 11 November 2015 10: 29
      +3
      Such "fighters against Putin" also receive ideological education through a number of websites. There is, for example, such a site "Russian Information Agency". It is very interesting that the server of this "agency" is located in the USA. Someone may argue that you can register a page on any server. However, this is not so or not quite so, and what is important is that nationalist websites are willingly registering in the west - USA, Poland, etc. This is how the Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Kazakh, etc. "swing". society. These little people are simply used "in the dark" and their comparison with a condom is absolutely true!
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 10 November 2015 06: 12
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    I have never understood stubborn Russian nationalists who help kill ethnic Russian and Russian-speaking people of Slavic appearance, even left-wing views (although in the Donbass left-wing ideas are not even officially declared), along with Ukrainians who have assimilated your Russian sister cities for 20 years, having made of them Selyuk in the embroidery with the Russian surname and with the corrupted pronunciation of the Russian language. I am already silent about the spreading Greek Catholicism of Western Ukraine, but not about paganism, which such traitors of the Russian people often hide behind. What do these people have in mind? Damn it will disassemble ... am wassat
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 06: 22
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      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      I never understood the stubborn Russian nationalists

      They are not that difficult. those who by the end of the 20th century wore the "ala Gestapo" outfit merged. Simply because the people have a great hatred for them. and the state had the strength to disperse the paramilitary organizations. And the rest like this ... Criminals who dispersed the Tajik janitors and mocked the lonely. A pack of mad dogs, nothing more.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 10 November 2015 06: 30
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        Quote: domokl
        They are not that difficult. those who by the end of the 20th century wore the "ala Gestapo" outfit merged. Simply because the people have a great hatred for them. and the state had the strength to disperse the paramilitary organizations. And the rest like this ... Criminals who dispersed the Tajik janitors and mocked the lonely. A pack of mad dogs, nothing more.


        Alexander, that's understandable. But this particular "hero" of the publication is not at all a stupid skin, but clearly and clearly expresses his thoughts somewhere on his Facebook. He is trying to comprehend the processes in the Ukrainian. and Ross. societies, etc. Therefore, the question arises, what kind of mess is in his head? How is he going to carry the flag of paganism, for example, if in Ukraine, for which he is fighting, of. religion in essence Greek Catholicism and schismatic Orthodoxy? I am already silent about the Jewish President and the Jewish Speaker of the Parliament. And in general, what is it like for a Russian nationalist to fight shoulder to shoulder with a soldier who either knows Russian badly or has a bright Olokopol dialect, against a region where 90% of them speak Russian? I'm going to vomit ... wassat
        1. domokl
          domokl 10 November 2015 06: 36
          +9
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          . And in general, what is it like to fight a Russian nationalist shoulder to shoulder with a soldier, that either knows Russian badly or has a bright Olokopol dialect against the region where 90% communicate in Russian? I vomit now

          You reason humanly. But it is necessary differently. Such stubborn ones are usually united in international units. not only Russians, but everyone else. Because even after dill, dill can shoot them. They hate fiercely.
          For them, the main thing is not man, but ideology. In the specific case, the main thing is to escape from punishment. I just don’t want to go to the zone.
          1. OlegLex
            OlegLex 10 November 2015 16: 22
            +4
            They are animals and they themselves perfectly understand this, and therefore understand that they have no place among people, so they run to where there is no law, first to Ukraine and then to ISIS
        2. Darkness
          Darkness 10 November 2015 06: 37
          +4
          By the way, the pagans very successfully fought on the side of the Donbass. Together with Muslims and Orthodox.
          1. domokl
            domokl 10 November 2015 06: 51
            13
            Here is another interesting to me. A nationalist, it seems that any nationality should be at the forefront. Not some political views. And then just a complete twist of the brain. Russian Nazi is fighting against the Russian people.
            Something does not grow together with the nationalists.
            1. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 10 November 2015 07: 00
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              Quote: domokl
              Here is another interesting to me. A nationalist, it seems that any nationality should be at the forefront. Not some political views. And then just a complete twist of the brain. Russian Nazi is fighting against the Russian people.
              Something does not grow together with the nationalists.


              Alexander, how do you like such a brain twist. Moscow, November 4 2015 year. Russian nationalists shout: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!
              I only wonder why they didn’t shout: "Moscow ... for knives!" ??? Something not completely turned out))) Ethnic Russians in Ukraine, who went through the Ukrainian school and the formation of a personality, calmly shout: "Mos ... go to the knives!" But all the same, admiring the Selyukov culture without being in Ukraine is still a brain twist !! wassat And it doesn’t matter that in the column it was possible to go to maydanutye from Ukraine The very fact: imperial flag, Moscow и Glory to Ukraine!!! ...

              1. Same lech
                Same lech 10 November 2015 08: 52
                12
                Moscow, the car, the gulag!
                All and forever !!!
                stop playing democracy with them already!
                After all, it was, in which case, the first to come out with a weapon against us!


                This is from a discussion on YouTube .....

                It is not worth the power to flirt with such an audience .... YANUKOVICH played out ....
                take all the participants on a video camera and a pencil as candidates for logging in KOLYMA.
                1. AleBors
                  AleBors 10 November 2015 15: 22
                  +1
                  Good idea... wink
              2. kotvov
                kotvov 10 November 2015 19: 42
                +3
                Russian nationalists shout: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes !, what they paid for, they shout. Do you really think that these, as it were, Russians have something sacred?
            2. Darkness
              Darkness 10 November 2015 07: 31
              15
              Punitive psychiatry was canceled, and so anything is hanging around, without observation.
              1. yastr
                yastr 12 November 2015 17: 58
                -1
                They need to apply punitive proctology :))))
          2. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 10 November 2015 09: 19
            +6
            When there is no clear state ideology that unites ideas, social and moral guidelines, values ​​precisely on the scale of state education, then all this is replaced by BELIEFS with personal or group beliefs.

            It is not for nothing that the dominant ideology is FORBIDDEN in the "new" post-Soviet Constitutions. As a result, we have a mess in our heads and problems in education. Radical ideological currents will appear, such as religious fanaticism and extremism, aggressive nationalism, etc.

            Although the basic reason for a lot is the violation of social sparseness and, as a consequence, moral values.
            The irritant of all is pseudo-power and pseudo-elite. But, unfortunately, a qualitative change in power and the socio-political system is possible only by force and with blood. History does not know other methods.
          3. AleBors
            AleBors 10 November 2015 15: 21
            0
            I support. I met several. Despite the complete confusion in spiritual values, they fight perfectly.
        3. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 10 November 2015 10: 52
          +2
          How is he going to carry the flag of paganism, for example, if in Ukraine, for which he is fighting, of. is religion essentially Greek Catholicism and schismatic Orthodoxy?
          Such people can be described in one word - degenerates.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 11: 33
            +2
            And what is schismatic Orthodoxy?
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 11 November 2015 00: 41
              +3
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              And what is schismatic Orthodoxy?


              followers of the false Patriarch Filaret
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 11 November 2015 00: 41
              0
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              And what is schismatic Orthodoxy?


              followers of the false Patriarch Filaret
  3. Hubun
    Hubun 10 November 2015 06: 20
    +6
    one road to aspen
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 10 November 2015 06: 52
      13
      Oleg Zhdanov is a Russian who fought in the Donbas for Ukraine as part of one of the volunteer groups.


      I hope he gets his bullet in the near future ...

      there is no excuse for betrayal and I always wonder ...
      why General KARBYSHEV or General DENIKIN did not go to serve the enemies of RUSSIA and General VLASOV went ... that this is rot in the human character or fear for his life.
  4. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 10 November 2015 06: 33
    +7
    Recently there was an article about traitors too, their "everyday hardships and lack of legality and their" deception "" So this traitor also complains, thinks pompously and philosophizes. Complaining about their "difficult" treacherous life. I'm sorry about the people who died through his fault. God is already punishing traitors, and people will add! "Thanks for the story.
  5. nozdrevat58
    nozdrevat58 10 November 2015 06: 36
    +6
    Checkboxes are already visible everywhere. Wolves do not know where to run? Yes, and disappointment with all he saw felt. Perhaps the war still teaches something. Even a man with the essence of a traitor begins to realize that further fate is nothing but the fate of an outcast. Outcast for everyone.

    Loudly said "WOLF" These are not wolves. The wolves where they live do not attack. They are shameful wolves.
    1. perm23
      perm23 10 November 2015 06: 44
      +5
      These are jackals.
    2. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 06: 48
      +1
      ATOshnikov constantly have loud callsigns.
    3. igorka357
      igorka357 10 November 2015 06: 58
      +2
      Seriously? The wolf has a territory where he hunts and where the lair is located, in fact this whole territory is his house, there he hunts and eats! So do not be misled, because the yard of your house is also your idea, and your corridor .. But if figuratively you are right, wolves are shameful with an emphasis in the word wolves, the last letter!
  6. Sagittarius YaNAO
    Sagittarius YaNAO 10 November 2015 06: 38
    +9
    Many are known by their callsigns. Upon receipt of such services in the punitive, their passports are seized.

    Is it not these passports that Poroshenko waved from the rostrum.
    1. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 10 November 2015 16: 19
      +2
      maybe the rapporteurs threw off officially under various pretexts from the beginning of the conflict and to this day 56 citizens of the Russian Federation who were declared terrorists and accomplices of terrorists and participated in hostilities were detained and arrested, although who else should be argued
  7. Glot
    Glot 10 November 2015 06: 40
    +5
    And what about those generally write that? Not even a mention. So, the little man lived, was, and disappeared, ruining the air. That's all. It’s not worth remembering such ones.
    Everyone decides how to live his life, he decided to live it like that ... his right. All one back to win back nothing.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 06: 44
      +5
      Quote: Glot
      And what about those generally write that? Not even a mention.

      Well no. That's what they count on ... We will punish here, kill a little and run away. and people will not know anything.
      You must write about such. And not only write, but also seek and plant. The traitor is terrible in that he may have imitators. All the same, no one bears responsibility for actions in the territory of another country
      1. Glot
        Glot 10 November 2015 06: 55
        +2
        Well no. That is what they are counting on ...


        Maybe you are right. To me personally, such little men are of little interest.
        And they have enough imitators. Yes, and many of these have no political motive, just people who have not found themselves, who do not want to work, who are thirsty for blood, and who, due to other factors far from politics, go where the war is and they don’t care on whose side and whom to kill. And political positions, this is most often just a screen for them, meaning nothing.
      2. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 10 November 2015 09: 31
        +7
        Quote: domokl
        and plant.


        Good day, Alexander! “To write about them, to search” - I agree with this. Maybe this is bloodthirsty, but I would shoot them on the spot, tk. We do not have the death penalty, but they can get away from life imprisonment, the "foreign friends" will be elevated to the rank of "great martyrs" and then they will indeed "have imitators." And so: "I tried to live loudly, but quietly disappeared."
        1. domokl
          domokl 10 November 2015 18: 28
          +2
          repeat Tatyana, what about this, her mother, tolerance? A person needs to be educated ... everyones. There, or put in a corner ...
          But I like your train of thought good
  8. Darkness
    Darkness 10 November 2015 06: 47
    +8
    And, in general, what is he, naftk, "pagan".
    The main thing in paganism is the defense of the Motherland and the continuation and increase of its kind.
    And this is some, having read all kinds of trash.
  9. perm23
    perm23 10 November 2015 06: 53
    12
    And most importantly. As during the Great Patriotic War and now. These under the guise of some sort of principles, shoot and kill. Suppose you don’t like the regime, don’t like the president, the government, but why should you kill people, go prove, fight, choose another government, but no, he’s going to kill his own people. And what about the same Ukraine, that people in power are better than our rulers, no. It’s just these traitors and bandits who cover their essence in such a way. As before, the same forest brothers from the Baltic states or Bandera, the Vlasovites said that they were fighting the regime with Stalin, but they weren’t killing the regime, they were Russian men, Belarusians, Kazakhs, etc. And it’s not a mess in their head, just for the jackals are easier for them here, you can rob and expose yourself as a hero. And their insight comes immediately when they are put against the wall. Like in the movie Liberation, ours captured the Vlasovite who was sitting at the mill. As they said to shoot, he immediately remembered both his mother and his homeland and what made him. It's just people like that - scum.
  10. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin 10 November 2015 06: 55
    +6
    What do you want? In the social network Odnoklassniki, "Slavophilism" has generally "blossomed" and under this "Slavic sauce" there are calls to overthrow the "Jewish regime of Putin" and begin "to cleanse Russia of blacks and yellows." This is a complete discrediting and inciting disgust towards Russians as such! And many are beginning to agree with the calls! Here it is a bomb from inside Russia!
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 07: 04
      +2
      These freaks Russia-it is from Tverskaya to Vykhino))
    2. Romaniga
      Romaniga 11 November 2015 03: 42
      0
      There is one such thing here - RUSNAK
  11. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 10 November 2015 06: 58
    +3
    These condoms are the same as chikotila and everyone like him will mock a defenseless person over whom they have power. In a word, they need to be destroyed. They have nothing to do with politics.
  12. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 10 November 2015 07: 06
    +8
    Anti-Soviet is ALWAYS a Russophobe. He who hates Russia and its culture is an Enemy whoever he calls himself. Fascism loves to dress itself in "decent" forms - the National Bolsheviks, "Russian nationalists", neo-White Guards, Salafis-Wahhabis, "Bandera-who-are-not-in-Ukraine-Ukraine" and other abomination that climbed out of all cracks during Perestroika and after the treacherous collapse of the Soviet Union ...
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 07: 32
      +2
      Absolutely.
  13. Aleksiy
    Aleksiy 10 November 2015 07: 07
    +5
    The man has guano in his head. Well, against Putin, well, against the system, well, you don't accept the dominance of "blacks" in Russia and their lawlessness, but what does the Donbass residents have to do with it, absolutely no connection. Here either the author does not finish speaking, or the hero's compass is knocked down.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 18: 33
      +9
      But Russia is not black. they are only in the heads of Natsik. How can I call Kazan Tatar black if his grandfather beat me next to my German? There are more than 150 nationalities.
      Another thing is foreigners. they cannot always assimilate in our country. but this is their problem.
  14. Support
    Support 10 November 2015 07: 10
    +1
    Well, about how many again people of Jewish nationality and religion (Judaism) are in the Legislative and Executive Bodies, from the upper level to the lowest, up to the settlement settlements, it is noticeable and so. And for example, I have an association with the month of October, 1917, with the composition of the first Soviet government. I'm not talking about the oligarchs, all kinds of merchants, and of course about banks and other financial structures, at least if not the son and daughter of Zion, then obviously not Russian, or say not Slavic. What can I say - an example of Kagylavio (metrojet). Who are the founding owners? And then we are surprised at some things ........
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 18: 37
      +5
      And then the pick is weak to reason? Stalin Georgians, Khreschev and Brezhnev are more Ukrainians than Russians .. Gorbachev is also from the south ... combine harvesters.
      Only this bullshit. And the most nasty. The most petty. at that time we were one people. My mother sang Ukrainian songs in Ukrainian, never in her life having traveled to Ukraine. we were one people ..
  15. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 10 November 2015 07: 10
    +2
    on Aspen !!!!! trembling is not a man!
  16. UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 10 November 2015 07: 13
    +5
    Quote: Aleksiy
    The man has guano in his head. Well, against Putin, well, against the system, well, you don't accept the dominance of "blacks" in Russia and their lawlessness, but what does the Donbass residents have to do with it, absolutely no connection. Here either the author does not finish speaking, or the hero's compass is knocked down.

    "against Putin," "against the dominance of the blacks," "against the system," - under such slogans it is just cannon fodder to destroy the country. This is just the reason. Under the same slogans, they overthrew the legitimate government in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, in Ukraine and now in Syria. You have to be a complete villain to be led by this. Whoever is being led is the enemy, albeit a duped enemy.
    1. Aleksiy
      Aleksiy 10 November 2015 07: 31
      +7
      So the little article is a substitution of concepts. The author is trying to TAKE FOR RUSSIAN NATIONALISM some kind of vile chaos. For a Russian nationalist, the inhabitants of Donbass are the same Russians, and not enemies at all. And even more so, the modern ukgain power of the hetman valtsman is clearly not a model for respect. Someone simply in every possible way cheats on the very concept of the RUSSIAN NATIONALIST, even if it is such a mess as this article.
      1. domokl
        domokl 10 November 2015 18: 46
        +3
        And nothing that the hero of the article himself writes that he is a nationalist? And was he persecuted precisely under the "Russian" article? Are the residents of Donbass the same Russians? I agree. And why then the hero of the article is on the opposite side? the concept of a Russian nationalist ... Damn, I know a lot of Russian people. which nationalists will gladly hang on the nearest birch. simply because the Russian in them is 0. Apart from the love for Russia. And I know goats who boast of their ancestry, but at the same time I can’t call them anything other than goats.
        When the concept of a nationalist appears in a multinational article, it must be burned out. burn with a hot iron. So that only a scar remains and no memory. And no matter what kind of nationalist it is. Russian, Tatar, Bashkir, Siberian, Kamchatka ... Nationality is not a criterion. A person can be good and bad, smart and stupid, his own and a stranger ... And the face of the face has nothing to do with it
  17. mr.vasilievich
    mr.vasilievich 10 November 2015 07: 22
    +4
    It is necessary to calmly and methodically track these traitors, make lists. The goal is subsequent punishment.
  18. leo3972
    leo3972 10 November 2015 07: 24
    +2
    Yes, brush our forehead with green paint (we are a humane nation) and to the wall.
  19. parusnik
    parusnik 10 November 2015 07: 33
    +5
    So here it is. Killing Ukrainians, this Anika warrior is fighting with Putin.... The traitors during the war years also declared, we are not at war with the people, but with Stalin .... The old otmaz ...
    1. Alexl
      Alexl 10 November 2015 09: 36
      0
      He seems to be on the side of the Ukrainians fighting and not against them.
      1. AlexeyL
        AlexeyL 11 November 2015 12: 43
        0
        He is not fighting on the side of the Ukrainians, but on the side of the Kiev junta, which he did not mention, mentioning only against what (or rather, whom) he is fighting.
        My family also sang Ukrainian songs, although it has nothing to do with Ukraine, except for its common homeland - the USSR. But I think this is not enough!
  20. Roust
    Roust 10 November 2015 07: 40
    0
    Do these "poor fellows" want to continue to feel like condoms, waste material that is thrown away after use ....?
  21. German Titov
    German Titov 10 November 2015 07: 57
    +2
    Article "plusanul". Many Russians are indeed fighting on the side of the punishers. In "Donbass" even "family contract" was from the city of Polyarny (my namesakes by the way). I don't know, we survived after Ilovaisk. There, in addition to Russians (by nationality), there are enough others.
  22. duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 10 November 2015 08: 12
    0
    This is true ... Vocabulary runs out very quickly and is replaced by profanity.
  23. Monetniy
    Monetniy 10 November 2015 08: 18
    +2
    vybral.Nuzhno was the wrong side to go to the Vikings or to "Rusich" and on the side of the DPR there are Russian nationalists pagans, but they are not fighting for American dill.
  24. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 10 November 2015 08: 25
    +1
    The phenomenon of "fascism" in Russia and Ukraine is actually interesting and has not yet been properly studied. However, we can say that this "fascism" originated in a very peculiar way, namely, it grew out of the youth's enthusiasm for the German army and equipment during the Second World War. It may seem strange, but it is. The German army of that era has an incredible appeal for boys, I don't know why, most likely with its special form, its cultural customs (such as a Nazi greeting) and rules, and of course its weapons. Gradually, such boys' enthusiasm for everything German-fascist has grown into a very real admiration for this and a complete denial of their native with all the ensuing consequences.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 09: 33
      +2
      Danunafik.
      For a long time, children were told about the "bloody communist ghouls" and the "scoop" and praised the kind and fair Germans who brought order and beer with sausages.
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 10 November 2015 13: 04
        0
        Quote: Darkness
        Danunafik.
        For a long time, children were told about the "bloody communist ghouls" and the "scoop" and praised the kind and fair Germans who brought order and beer with sausages.

        Where did you get about the Germans. Never said that. Even Novodvorskaya.
        1. Darkness
          Darkness 10 November 2015 15: 14
          -1
          Are you responsible for all?
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 20: 21
            +3
            Quote: Darkness
            Are you responsible for all?

            For all and do not. You wrote about the general situation? Or about the fact that someone said something in the gateway? Can you give a few quotes (well, at least 10 pieces), otherwise you write that the children LAST
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 10 November 2015 16: 06
          +3
          Have you decided to rehabilitate Novodvorskaya? Do you know what that bitch said? Then remember the words of Novodvorskaya about the defenders of the "White House" in 1993, when she, raging, urged them to hang on all poles, having previously mutilated! That's right: Hitler, Himmler, Pol Pot and other bunch of "like-minded people" applauded these statements - who is in the next world, who is ... somewhere!
          1. domokl
            domokl 10 November 2015 18: 53
            +3
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Do you know what this bitch said?

            About the dead, either good or nothing ... So be quiet ... Earth to her reinforced concrete ....
          2. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 20: 23
            +2
            I am not rehabilitating anyone. It was about a specific thing, not about the White House. Therefore, he cited her as an example, even that she did not say anything like that. And she said that both regimes were worth each other. But this does not mean that Hitler is better. Both are worse
      2. domokl
        domokl 10 November 2015 18: 52
        0
        Quote: Darkness
        For a long time, children were told about the "bloody ghouls of the communists

        I do not agree. Filled in at school. and in the family that there was no grandfather, who on May 9 put a heavy jacket on his shoulders? there was no father, mother?
        it’s not in state education. The fact is that parents themselves agreed to such an interpretation of history.
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 11 November 2015 00: 46
          +2
          Whose parents? I have never met a person in my life for whom May 9 is not a holiday. That's just the first time I encountered it. When the Nazis were shown on TV, I always wondered where they came from. In my opinion, they grew out of geeks, without any ideology in their heads, just sadists and scum bloodthirsty.
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    2. yastr
      yastr 13 November 2015 09: 36
      0
      Very controversial.
      In childhood, when they played war games, nobody wanted to play for the Germans :))
  25. nimboris
    nimboris 10 November 2015 08: 38
    0
    Well, not enough of what I expected, that’s crying
  26. Begemot
    Begemot 10 November 2015 08: 45
    0
    That is the Russian cellar.
    More precisely, it’s raked, it’s a cellar for good products, and it’s a cellar for slops. Article plus.
  27. Patriot 771
    Patriot 771 10 November 2015 09: 34
    +1
    The country should know its heroes and not only. Work simply will not decrease in the near future at the UK. Waste material (ed. # 1) has no right to exist (coma as in the fire of utilization). To all those "offended Russians" who took up arms against the really Russians, my advice is to go to hell, where you, on your knees, will be in favor. Imagine how many sympathizers gather around such. This is exactly what we observed a couple of decades ago. Everyone loves Russians, but only when they feel bad.
  28. Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 10 November 2015 09: 37
    +6
    Yeah. At first I began to read this article on VO and was directly surprised. Really really decided to publish a position on the Donbass of the opposite side. But everything turned out as usual. At least the author’s text, but 80% of the article’s comments, explaining to us what a scoundrel and traitor it is. Yes, and so it is clear that the traitor, but here, too, not the children gathered to bother them with propaganda, let us draw conclusions ourselves from reading the author’s text. Commentators have rightly compared the author of the article with the driven wolf, but is it worth it to rejoice? The current political leadership is absolutely NOT ABLE to work with the opposition, in fact, engaged in its radicalization. We do not have a positive opposition, which has its own alternative position, which can offer the current government its own view on problem solving. In our country there is the only true opinion of the Guarantor and the gray obedient mass, who heed him. The rest have no choice, either they should become a gray political mass, or they will be made of such driven wolves from them. I am surprised to see how my acquaintance, previously a very intelligent and sensible person, becomes a radical, and I won’t be surprised if he soon becomes the same driven wolf and traitor. But I want to ask another question, does Putin really not understand that by making traitors out of his own opposition, but at the same time showing an extreme degree of condescension to the Serdyukovs, Vasiliev and other crooks and thieves, he thereby splits and radicalizes society? Is the opposition, driven underground or even more so serving your enemy, much more dangerous than the opposition open and inclined to cooperate? What does our political system underestimate, steeped in theft and corruption, and only sound opposition thought will bring fresh blood, forcing the ruling elites to change? It is impossible to turn citizens into wolves and traitors if we really think about the good of the country, and not about maintaining our own power.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 19: 02
      +4
      I wonder why such an opposition? Do you even understand what opposition is? there are oppositionists. and there are critics. And you confuse them. anyone can criticize. This is not at all difficult. The only difference between the opposition and this very anyone is that the normal opposition offers its own ways of developing society. Your solution to pressing problems.
      And what does our .. is this the most? Nothing ... Everything was lost, Putin is not going there, foreign countries will help us ... Maybe enough? They reminded us of 90. Enough of such help, but I don’t want enough.
      And there is no need to make "smart" conclusions about Vasilyeva and other Serdyukovs. There is a law and, whether we like it or not, it must be implemented. I do not like the decision, to the prosecutor's office with their arguments. I don’t like it, but I cannot legally prove it. I just hiss like a snake from under the deck and that's it.
    2. AlexeyL
      AlexeyL 11 November 2015 12: 54
      0
      Again, you need to tolerantly look at the betrayal?
      And the author’s text is in the link and you just need to click the mouse for this. And reprint here, I agree with the author of the article, there is no need.
    3. Travian
      Travian 11 November 2015 12: 59
      0
      who was driven into opposition? who was radicalized? a citizen, if he has brains, does everything possible for the good of his family in legal ways and does not seek excuses such as corruption. And the choice between the gray political mass and who is there - a "BRIGHT POLITICAL FIGURE" such as a bulk-exposer, is also made in proportion to how an individual understands his place in society, his views. and to be a "gray mass" or a traitor to the "gray mass" everyone decides for himself. And that is why a person chooses to be a traitor to his family, ancestors, blood, Motherland (please do not confuse it with the concept of the state) here on the conscience of every traitor: an insult to the state, to the king,
      the representative of the Central Committee of the CPSU, the president, that you were not appreciated, etc. And the idea that the state is driving the wolves is right - do not be a wolf. I did not authorize these wolves to defend my interests. And about the fact that the political leadership does not know how to work with the opposition ... the opposition represented by the government structures has an influence exactly proportional to its representation, and those who do not have representations such as the Union of Right Forces, parnassus, a bulk party, an apple and some other let them fight for the voter. other methods OUTSIDE THE LAW !!! otherwise, again, revolution, civil war, and what remains of Russia?
    4. yastr
      yastr 13 November 2015 09: 50
      0
      Nikolai, what kind of opposition is this?

      For me it looks like this.
      Meetings, therefore, were gathered, and from the stage a certain subject was broadcasting about how everything was bad with us. Am I damn living in another country? Did he say something new to me? No. This is not opposition, but gorlopanstvo.
      And some of my friends at one time picked up this infection to blame everything. Like they are the most observant, clever and open their eyes to everyone. And they are not observant, but fools. It’s not enough to shout about how bad everything is. If you can’t offer a solution, alternatives, it’s better to shut up, you’ll be a smart guy. And it’s easy to pour mud, anyone can.

      And then there's the problem. From behind the hillock, they say they tell us that we are not against the Russian people, but against the dictator Putin. It is very important to understand that if they are bent, then all of us will be bent, as already happened in the 90s. And something tells me that just the same the top will settle down normally anyway, and in this case we will be in shit up to our temples. Therefore, for all my ambiguous attitude towards the authorities, it must be supported. "Yes, he's a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch."
  29. Doctorleg
    Doctorleg 10 November 2015 09: 42
    -6
    And where did you get the idea that the war against the LPR is a war against Russia. I don't know about such a region of Russia. Well, about the difference between the Maidan and the coup in the LPR. There were Ukrainians in Kiev, but in the LDNR without armed "help" from Russia (or the Russians), everything would have ended like in Kharkov - nothing. In LDNR there was not Nuland with cookies, but shooters with machine guns. And finally. They say all the time that there is fascism in Ukraine, meaning Nazism. At the same time, in Ukraine they speak and write in Russian without prejudice, and Russians are not killed on the basis of ethnicity. At one time in the Crimea there were only 2 schools teaching in the Ukrainian language - apparently this is a lot? Now there are none. In Russia itself, the Ukrainian library was closed. for not fig ... To put it simply, that patriotism is a desire for prosperity for the country. And, of course, action. Only everyone sees this prosperity in his own way. As well as the path to it. One thinks that a powerful and prosperous country is a state with a huge army, which has 50 aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, 100500 tanks, etc. in each ocean. Friends - only the army and the navy. Neighbors and not only, especially small countries, should be afraid to tremble in the knees. Other industries besides the military-industrial complex can wait. People are ready for hardship. (True, until they themselves get sick, for example, with cancer). Others represent a country with advanced medicine, education and friendly and equal relations with other countries, regardless of their size.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 10: 06
      +2
      But what cannot be a country with a powerful army and advanced medicine and education?
      And further. The weak always obey the strong.
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 10 November 2015 10: 30
        -1
        Can. although the budget is not rubber. The United States has the most powerful army (at least on a budget). But ask how much health care costs are more than defense costs. In 2013, they amounted to 17% of GDP (and this is from their GDP), and in Russia-7%. A reduction of 2016% was announced for 10, and with our inflation, the real reduction is even greater. Today is November 10th, and in federal honey. the center where I work ran out of quotas for high-tech treatment methods (and so in most federal centers in Moscow). We record patients for the next year. OMS is generally laughter and tears. In general, I can write a whole novel about problems, but not once. The system in the USA is not perfect and there are big problems. But it stimulates the introduction of new methods and can provide the highest quality of treatment.
        Well, according to the second remark. In the jungle - yes, but I would not want to live in them. Well, the weak can unite.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 10 November 2015 12: 22
          +4
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          Doctorleg


          Why are you incognito? Is Nadezhdin our most liberal Boris Borisovich? His most infamous, direct speech. stop
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 12: 54
            +1
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: DoctorOleg
            Doctorleg


            Why are you incognito? Is Nadezhdin our most liberal Boris Borisovich? His most infamous, direct speech. stop

            In what sense is incognito? Oh no more than you, dear Lelek. Where is your friend, Bolek? But essentially?
        2. domokl
          domokl 10 November 2015 19: 10
          +3
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          The system in the USA is not perfect and there are big problems. But it stimulates the introduction of new methods and can provide the highest quality of treatment.

          Doctor, you are twenty years late. We have already played that match. we have already been told how we should live. And, the most vile, we tried to live like this ... what it led you to, I think, it’s not worth talking. More, don’t want to. We will live as we feel comfortable. With problems, with small salaries, but with a proud soul. Thank God the Russian people have not yet changed their souls on their belly.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 10 November 2015 20: 35
            0
            Maybe I didn’t exactly put it. It was about medicine and the healthcare system. You can’t imagine the difference. And what does the soul and belly have to do with it. I won’t speak for the USA - I was not there for long, but in Europe they did not exchange a soul for a belly. They come to the aid only to show you that you are in difficulty. They accept refugees, collect things and money. And it is in the mass. When the attacks occurred, then how many people themselves went to the square to show solidarity. Just do not write that they bombed. it's about people, not about government decisions
            1. a housewife
              a housewife 11 November 2015 01: 05
              +3
              And your Europe is full of abominations. same-sex "spouses" cannot give birth to anyone themselves, but they want to have children. Not the children themselves, but as a means to prove (it is not clear to whom and why, to myself, perhaps) that they are also a real family. And as soon as one of the neighbors, teachers, educators shows that they are in difficulty - the neighbors have a child crying for two whole minutes, or his mother spoils and takes care of him very much (excessive love that cripples the child's psyche), the authorities immediately come to the rescue and take this child away from the parents. Even if these are mothers and children - not their subjects, but Russian ones. Is this their soul? Transfer children to gays? Or shove them into an orphanage where they are bullied? Is their medicine up to par? This I do not know, only hearsay. Our healthcare is poor. Do you work in it? How did they improve? Do you take money from the sick? Or an official? What good did they do? Specifically, I want to know. About the United States. Neighbors who have left for the states come here to treat their teeth, although one of them works there as a dental technician. Or in Europe and the states, no one gets sick, does not die? And the poor are treated as well as the rich? Does everyone have enough money and insurance? Why don't I believe ?!
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            3. AlexeyL
              AlexeyL 11 November 2015 13: 07
              0
              And in the current state of medicine, the 90s did not contribute?
              Please remind me of the state of medicine and its funding in the 90s. What was the state of the medical equipment, medical buildings? institutions, training and, at the end, remuneration of medical workers. And the "federal center in which you work" itself, tell me when it was formed?
            4. ksan
              ksan 11 November 2015 14: 45
              0
              I won’t speak for the USA - I was not there for long, but in Europe they did not exchange a soul for a belly. They come to the aid only to show you that you are in difficulty. They accept refugees, collect things and money. And it is in the mass. When the attacks occurred, how many people went to the square themselves to show solidarity
              Well, it's easy to be "noble" in relation to the "robbed" and even then not for long repeat Those that are "poorer" and "noble" less, are already building fences and military barriers set up so that refugees, God forbid, their "ideal" peace is not violated. Even those that are "richer" and "noble" are already burning shelters with a blue flame and will soon start to "wet", perhaps in toilets too, to "show solidarity" with those who are "poorer" hi
        3. ksan
          ksan 11 November 2015 14: 33
          0
          Today is November 10th, and in federal honey. the center where I work ran out of quotas for high-tech treatment methods (and so in most federal centers in Moscow). We record patients for the next year. OMS is generally laughter and tears. In general, I can write a whole novel about problems, but not once. The system in the USA is not perfect and there are big problems
          Well, you see, you yourself say that the States are not ideal wink , and isn't there anything being done in Russia to improve healthcare? Any suggestions for a "whole novel"? want to help the country and healthcare? forward and with the song, that is, with your "novel", in the ONF, "civil initiative", "open government" and even a bunch of civic associations and communities in different directions. So show your "civic position" and maybe help the country. hi
          Well, according to the second remark. In the jungle - yes, but I would not want to live in them.
          Unfortunately, since the creation of the WORLD, this is so. The strong is almost always right, and history is written by the winners, and to be in the "winners" you need a strong army and navy, or OUR history will be written by others. fellow
    2. ksan
      ksan 11 November 2015 14: 14
      0
      Well and, of course, action. Only everyone sees this prosperity in his own way. Like the path to it. It seems to one that a powerful and prosperous country is a state with a huge army, which has 50 aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, 100500 tanks, etc. in each ocean. Of the friends, only the army and navy. Neighbors and not only, especially small countries, should be afraid to trembling knees. Other industries besides the military-industrial complex can wait. People are ready for hardship. (True, until they themselves become ill, for example, with cancer). Others represent a country with advanced medicine, education, and friendly and equitable relations with other countries, regardless of their size.
      A great power like Russia cannot have a weak army and navy. If there is no strong army and navy, then there will not be Great Russia, but there will be a bunch of small principalities, most likely vassals from the European Union (Germany), the USA or China, depending on the location of this principality. The presence of a strong army does not contradict the presence of "strong" medicine and "strong" education. And more - WORLD IS NOT FAIR and in HIM there will always be Strong and Weak countries, Great and Small and small and weak will always be afraid, afraid and try to make friends with Strong and Great, the WORLD is so arranged fellow
  30. atamankko
    atamankko 10 November 2015 09: 42
    +2
    There is no sin heavier than betrayal, not without reason they are on the ninth circle.
  31. mamont5
    mamont5 10 November 2015 10: 13
    0
    Such a "groan" is a lesson for all traitors.
  32. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 10 November 2015 10: 29
    +2
    The usual thing. most Russians chose one side of the conflict, but there were those who chose the other side. this has always been the case, in almost all wars and conflicts. Those who have chosen the side of the enemy do not need to be "anathematized", but when trying to return to their homeland, it is imperative to catch them and send them to jail, if the soldiers of the LPR and DPR do not "calm down" them earlier. it would also be nice to develop a balanced law of deprivation of citizenship.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 10 November 2015 11: 21
      12 th
      Quote: kill the fascist
      The usual thing. most Russians chose one side of the conflict, but there were those who chose the other side. this has always been the case, in almost all wars and conflicts. Those who have chosen the side of the enemy do not need to be "anathematized", but when trying to return to their homeland, it is imperative to catch them and send them to jail, if the soldiers of the LPR and DPR do not "calm down" them earlier. it would also be nice to develop a balanced law of deprivation of citizenship.

      I would have sent all the warriors to jail, no matter which side. These are people who are ready to kill for some far-fetched reason. Just don't say that the defenders of the LPR are doing it in response. It is not known exactly who first opened fire. But one of the first was Strelkov's group, shooting the officers of the SBU. And in general, all sorts of "motorballs", like others, on the other hand, are not close to me. By the way, when Ukraine says that Russia is fighting against it, our leaders say that Russia is not a party to the conflict. And in VO they begin to write that again "svidomye" (well, the Russian "patriots" like this word) saw the Buryat tank police. But those who are fighting on the side of the "junta" are traitors, because they are fighting against their own (ie, against Russia). schizophrenia is a dangerous disease. it is necessary to determine the position.
  33. Alagez
    Alagez 10 November 2015 10: 37
    0
    Lope traitors in power ?! Wagon and small trolley. Where to start!
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 10 November 2015 10: 43
      +2
      Quote: Alagez
      Lope traitors in power ?! Wagon and small trolley. Where to start!

      Indeed, the entire US government is on the scaffold.
  34. Baloo
    Baloo 10 November 2015 11: 19
    +2
    . violated the country's Criminal Code. What policy? But to say that he fled from a criminal article does not sound like a "political opponent of the regime." The song is familiar. We have such political emigrants half of London. But those with money. And this one is peripheral. Beggar.

    He wanted to hide from responsibility in Banderkraine, to gain citizenship by killing Ukrainians who did not want to submit to criminal authority.
    A traitor is a very specific psychotype of people who always want to look better in front of "strangers" than they really are.
  35. alex_sdc
    alex_sdc 10 November 2015 11: 25
    +5
    The hero of the article reminds me of the guy who nailed in protest of the current government in Russia NAILS to the cobblestones of Red Square Scrotum.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 10 November 2015 11: 41
      +5
      The other day the same "creative" poured gasoline over the door to the FSB building and set it on fire.
      It is a pity that they did not attach a moron.
      1. ksan
        ksan 11 November 2015 15: 04
        0
        Gloom (2) RU Yesterday, 11:41 ↑
        The other day the same "creative" poured gasoline over the door to the FSB building and set it on fire.
        It is a pity that they did not attach a moron.
        Here is scream laughing And that in a madhouse it is already impossible to define "creatives" ??
  36. Wolka
    Wolka 10 November 2015 11: 50
    +1
    ... the traitor is always a disposable consumable, nothing more, but always attractive for a dirty job, because there is no garbage, there is only the difference in price ...
  37. Belousov
    Belousov 10 November 2015 12: 03
    +4
    A dog's death. There can be no options. But other questions arise. What the hell is a nationalist if he's a heathen? In recent years, there has been a purposeful slinging of mud on the concept of "Russian nationalist" Moreover, this is taking place against the background of open indulgence of national minorities, especially the Caucasian ones. We have already replaced the concept of the Tatar-Mongol yoke by simply Mongolian, with an official wording so as not to offend the Tatars of Russia. At this pace, we will reach the point that soon in history textbooks they will write about how General Yermolov went to bow to Shamil. 282 article of the Criminal Code. really is only anti-Russian. It's very easy to get it. Not a single case has been initiated against other nationalities for insulting a Russian. Or will they fill in all white and fluffy and there were no precedents? And now they are trying to pass off such ghouls as "Russian nationalists", although he is not a nationalist to hell, but an ordinary criminal shooting at Russians.
  38. rusich
    rusich 10 November 2015 12: 08
    -1
    NATIONALISTS YOU WANT FOR YOURSELF YOURSELF YOU THE SAME RUSSIANS AND NOT UKRAINIAN NAKES
    1. Atemzug
      Atemzug 10 November 2015 12: 50
      +9
      Before being called Russian (yours), correct 6 errors in what you wrote.
  39. Atemzug
    Atemzug 10 November 2015 12: 48
    -2
    The author, Russia is not at war with Ukraine. What kind of betrayal are we talking about?

    If this citizen wants to die for the ideals that he invented for himself - his right.
    If the author does not agree with this citizen - the author’s right.
    But state secrets were not issued, subversive activities were not conducted, he did not fight against Russia.

    The whole article is the naked emotions of the author, who, in addition to replacing the passport, did nothing at the FMS. Otherwise, I would understand that the true enemies of the people are civil servants.
    1. soldner
      soldner 10 November 2015 13: 52
      0
      I agree that this individual cannot be called a traitor, he did not run away from military service, did not give out state and military secrets, did not participate in military operations against the Russian army, since the Russian army did not invade Ukraine. This is a person’s choice, true or not, we can evaluate only from the standpoint of personal beliefs. And from the point of view of law, the prohibition of an individual engaging somewhere in the service is a violation of his civil rights. Take it easy. But no one calls traitors hundreds of fighters that under the contract they go to the ranks of foreign PMCs, or serve in the Foreign Legion of France.
  40. Mestny
    Mestny 10 November 2015 14: 06
    -2
    It is not by chance that I made words about betrayal in the title. And I really think that a person who in any way harms his country is a traitor.

    The author writes.
    For the author’s information, it is correct to write in Russian IN Ukraine.
    “In Ukraine,” the overwhelming majority of anti-regime liberals and fighters, that is, fighters with us, Russia and the people inhabiting it, use it. (They use a lot of things in the ideological part of the war. But this is one of the details that, with maniacal persistence, or with special ideological conviction based on funding, can be singled out as the main one (???)).
    Does an author using the expression of enemies of that country harm the country?
  41. soldner
    soldner 10 November 2015 14: 09
    0
    In general, the problem of foreigners in someone else's war is not new, as much is written about mercenaries, volunteers, contract soldiers. In most cases, emotional, ideologically motivated ones prevail over a sober assessment, and this is logical. For Georgians, during the war in Abkhazia, the Argo unit of Ukrainians was considered heroic volunteers who came to the aid of the Georgian people in the fight against Russian aggression, while for the Abkhaz they were vile mercenaries of Shevardnadze's bloody regime. And so in any conflict: who is for us is a volunteer, who is against is a mercenary. In life, everything is more complicated. So, the UNA-UNSO fighters in 1992 fought shoulder to shoulder with the Cossacks on the side of Transnistria, and a year later in Abkhazia they looked at each other through the sights. So it is with mercenaries. This is the oldest respected male profession. Its remains are known and held in high esteem: the Vatican's Swiss guard, the French Foreign Legion, the Gurkhas in the British army, the Baluchis in the Omani army. But war crimes can be committed by soldiers of the regular armed forces, and even UN troops. There are a lot of examples, in Canada even the elite parachute regiment, created in 1942, was disbanded: they mocked prisoners, tortured youngsters in Somalia. So you need to understand in each specific case and according to the law.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 10 November 2015 14: 53
      +3
      You can add about Basayev, who first fought on the side of the Abkhazians.
  42. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 10 November 2015 17: 14
    +1
    E-mine! As always, the wooden Buratins are trying to muddy up the concept of "nationalist"! There is no need to "make" of nationalists "bad boys" for any reason! The concept of "nationalist" can be compared with the concept of "democrat": there are democrats, and there are democrats - "shitcrats". I appeal to those who have not yet "stiffened": there can be no normal nation state without a certain amount of healthy nationalism! A nationalist in the normal sense of the word is a person who sees and understands threats (including hidden ones) to his country, people, state; despite the dusting of the brain, accusations from the "liberals" in the ruling regime. Lack of sound nationalism in nation states. Europe; the "impregnation" of Europe with "liberal" tolerance has led to the fact that for a long time they started talking about when Europe (nation-states) will become just a geographical concept. But this notorious "migration crisis" happened, and Europe began to Peck "in the ass a certain rooster ..... of course, the true Pinocchio did not realize anything; but the "completely numb" sent Eurotolerance to the cue and became nationalists, that is, people defending their nationality, the nationality of their state. Even the head of Hungary, not long before that advocating the proximity of the country to a tolerant EU with all members of the body, suddenly spoke (and in this he showed true sanity) that the Hungarian people cannot have with them Islamic enclaves that it threatens the Hungarian nation (i.e. proved to be a sane nationalist) There is a similar threat to Russia as well; but, unfortunately, the ruling regime is trying to camouflage this threat by "pointing the finger" at Russian nationalists (people trying to defend their nationality, the interests of their people, their national state) shouting : "Atu them!" I do not argue, there are a lot of people in Russia hiding behind the signboard of Russian nationalism, but in fact they are national traitors. But we must "look at the root"!
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  44. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 10 November 2015 17: 25
    0
    Natsiks, liberals, radicals, etc. are used in geopolitics by the sims for the collapse of countries, the enemy is ready to invest in them a myriad of money naturally with subsequent profit, and those who manage this cattle perfectly understand this
    1. soldner
      soldner 10 November 2015 19: 37
      -1
      In principle, there are no objections, but it is correct to write "Semites". The Russian language must be respected.
  45. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 10 November 2015 17: 49
    +4
    Russia has such a destiny to be a multinational empire. Moreover, unlike the United States, where everyone "came in large numbers" and live intermingled, in Russia all nationalities have their own land, where they can live according to their local rules and customs, but, at the same time, move throughout the country. There are many ugly creatures in every nation, but cultivating nationalism will lead to the collapse of the country and then they will simply defeat us all - one by one.
  46. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 10 November 2015 17: 52
    0
    Where it will be necessary to throw away what we do not need (ready traitors and potential traitors) is a question.

    it's not a question". Everything is thought out and there are good developments: after the Second World War, the authorities worked perfectly to identify all traitors and reward them as they deserved.
    And this must be done (in contrast to past times) publicly and not to hush up the names and their deeds against Russian people.
    I would also add, after their legal imprisonment, a complete defeat in civil rights.
  47. Appraiser
    Appraiser 10 November 2015 17: 58
    0
    Any nationalism: let's call it "even white, even black", it's a road to nowhere .... There are simply too many "liberal idiots" who play on the feelings of society, betraying the geopolitical interests of one class over another, while wrapping them in this "wrapper" "completely different goals and objectives. And there were always enough fools "to put it mildly idiots" concerned with the national idea ... hi
    1. ava09
      ava09 10 November 2015 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: Appraiser
      And there were always enough fools "to put it mildly idiots" concerned with the national idea ...

      Being an elephant, you cannot invade a china shop ...
  48. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 November 2015 18: 25
    0
    He made a choice, no one forced him ...
    In short, in Magadan this.
  49. ava09
    ava09 10 November 2015 18: 30
    +1
    (C) And I don’t want to consider him an officer at all.
    Only the military man who has the HONOR can be considered a real officer. But traitors are not.
  50. mekhavova
    mekhavova 10 November 2015 18: 42
    +2
    Guys! And the hunt for you nonhumans spend ink? They themselves will die out, like mammoths
    1. soldner
      soldner 10 November 2015 19: 44
      +3
      Of course, this instance is the concern of the FSB, but since the topic has touched many, let them speak out. For all the hostility toward him, one must act according to the law, unless he gets caught in battle in battle.
    2. domokl
      domokl 10 November 2015 19: 46
      0
      soldier But these are pipes. They will die out with our help ...