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In the United States conducted tests of the Trident-2 rocket

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On Sunday, the US Navy conducted a test launch of a strategic three-stage ballistic missile "Trident-2" from a submarine off the coast of California, reports Interfax-AVN message from the representative fleet Ryan Perry


In the United States conducted tests of the Trident-2 rocket
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“As part of the programs of strategic naval systems at sea at the Pacific test site off the southern coast of California, the Trident 2 rocket was launched from the Ohio-class Kentucky nuclear-powered submarine,” Perry said.

"The launch was carried out in order to check the status of the missile system," he added, without specifying the direction of the flight of an unarmed missile.

This message appeared after numerous appeals to the authorities of frightened citizens who watched the bright glow in the night sky over California.

“Information regarding Trident-2 missile test launches is secret until launch,” Perry noted.



As the Orange County Sheriff said, “after a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about aliens, a comet, and even an atomic explosion.” Many have suggested that they witnessed the arrival of UFOs on Earth.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 8 November 2015 12: 45 New
    +10
    “As part of strategic naval systems programs at sea on a Pacific training ground off the southern coast of California, a Trident-2 missile was launched from an Ohio-class Kentucky nuclear-powered submarine,” Perry said.


    And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 8 November 2015 12: 48 New
      +10
      ... after numerous appeals to the authorities of frightened citizens who observed a bright glow in the night sky over California.

      Cool!
      Like this is not in response to our "CALIBER"!
      Like not squealing!
      Like "With us and without your" caliber "everything goes according to plan!"
      Wounded pride sores!
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 8 November 2015 13: 05 New
        +43
        1. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 8 November 2015 18: 04 New
          +9
          Everything is much simpler)))
      2. Duke
        Duke 8 November 2015 15: 09 New
        +11
        UGM-133A Trident II (D5) (Eng. UGM-133A Trident II (D5) - "trident") is an American three-stage ballistic missile designed to be launched from nuclear submarines. Developed by Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Sunnyvale, CA. The missile has a maximum range of 11 km and has a separable warhead with individual guidance units equipped with thermonuclear charges of 300 and 475 kilotons. Due to its high accuracy, SLBMs are capable of effectively hitting small-sized, highly-protected targets - in-depth bunkers and silo launchers of intercontinental ballistic missiles. As of 100, Trident II is the only SLBM remaining in service with the US Navy SSBN and the UK Navy. The warheads deployed on Trident II make up 2010% ​​of the US strategic nuclear forces and 52% of the British strategic nuclear forces.
        Together with the Trident I missile, it is part of the Trident missile system. In 1990, adopted by the U.S. Navy. The carriers of the Trident missile system are 14 Ohio SSBNs. In 1995, adopted by the Royal Navy of Great Britain. Trident II missiles are armed with 4 Vengard-class SSBNs.

        [left] [/ left]
        1. roadsmell
          roadsmell 8 November 2015 16: 18 New
          +3
          Along with the launch of Trident, infa appeared on increasing investment in new defense technologies. In particular, in the railgun:
          http://vz.ru/politics/2015/11/8/776859.html

          I guess the prospect of a confrontation:

          1 day of confrontation.
          AUG of the 6th US fleet enters the Black Sea through the strait. Several destroyers carry new types of weapons, railguns. Americans are encouraged by future battles for democracy.

          2 day.
          Far from the squadron, the only attack aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces flies. And drops just one bomb a couple of kilometers from the USA AUG. Americans laugh at a loser pilot.

          3 day.
          The Russian rescue ships deliver food (bread, Shebekinsky pasta, pearl barley, "Bull-calves in tomato sauce" of the Kerch cannery) and drinking water to the aircraft carriers and escort ships completely de-energized by the electromagnetic bomb. Americans do not laugh.


          Like a fairy tale)))

          But the fairy tale is only partly:
          http://www.odnako.org/blogs/oruzhie-na-novih-fizicheskih-principah-mifi-i-realno


          st-chast-4-russkoe-elektromagnitnoe-oruzhie /
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 November 2015 16: 02 New
        +1
        According to the Orange County Sheriff, “after a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about“ aliens, ““ comets, ”and even“ atomic explosions. ” Many suggested that they witnessed the arrival of UFOs on Earth.

        Oh these americans lol Bobik perenyl in a dream and scared himself!
        Some missiles do not understand where to naughty, others are crammed with fear, and that's all in one country! laughing
      4. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 8 November 2015 16: 09 New
        0
        neighing .... oh, those overseas victims of the zombies
        "After a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about" aliens "," comet "and even" atomic explosion "." Many suggested that they witnessed the arrival of UFOs on Earth.
        1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 17: 33 New
          +1
          quote = sasha 19871987] neighing .... oh, those overseas victims of the zombie’s [quote] "after a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about" aliens, "" comets, "and even" atomic explosions. " Many suggested that they witnessed the arrival of UFOs on Earth. [/ Quote] [/ quote]

          And when, during the Caribbean crisis, Florida mattresses learned about Russian missiles in Cuba, they friendly loaded into cars and rushed to Mexico and Texas, where they organized tent cities!
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 8 November 2015 20: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          neighing .... oh, those overseas victims of the zombies

          I would listen to what our grannies on the benches tell, I wouldn’t laugh so much! This kind of stuff is probably enough everywhere. smile
      5. Sterlya
        Sterlya 8 November 2015 17: 41 New
        +4
        if you believe zavlennymi TTX. Serious. Fat little thing. On solid fuel! VKS then probably followed the route
      6. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 November 2015 20: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Baikonur
        Like not squealing!

        Normal rattling. We also rattled the other day — conducted the nuclear triad exercises with missile launches. soldier
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 8 November 2015 12: 48 New
      +38
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

      This is a planned firing of rockets, there is nothing extraordinary in this. Another thing is that when we test rockets they talk about rattling weapons, and when they are in the order of things.
      1. attuda
        attuda 8 November 2015 20: 14 New
        -1
        This is a planned missile launch.

        Ah ... A couple of aircraft carriers
        send to the moon
        when will I swim?)
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 8 November 2015 12: 50 New
      +12
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

      It was an advertising company dedicated to the release of Fallout 4 !!!
      1. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 8 November 2015 13: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: lelikas
        Quote: cniza
        And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

        It was an advertising company dedicated to the release of Fallout 4 !!!

        So it’s like the 10th
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 8 November 2015 13: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Kyrgyz
          So it’s like the 10th

          Well, and advertising is always up to the exit! smile
      2. nablydatel
        nablydatel 8 November 2015 14: 04 New
        +1
        the diapers were asked to launch a rocket, and the diapers weren’t mistaken that day, they grabbed a good advertisement ten years in advance yes
    4. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 8 November 2015 12: 52 New
      0
      without indicating the direction of flight of the unarmed missile.
      They have one direction. This is understandable. You do not need bluffs, not frightened ones.
      1. Aleksey888
        Aleksey888 8 November 2015 19: 35 New
        0
        As far as I know, they should first notify our government about such launches ... and then you never know if the answer will go right away ...
    5. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 12: 57 New
      +6
      belay
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer but not so straightforward , but with a beautiful hint, how much?


      Well, yes, Dear Victor, do we conduct our tests of the "Mace" based on your comment, is it curvilinear or what? belay
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 8 November 2015 13: 06 New
        +1
        "The launch was carried out in order to check the status of the missile system," he added, without specifying the direction of the flight of an unarmed missile.

        Yes, we understand which way ...))) Well done! Worthy rivals ....
    6. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 8 November 2015 13: 05 New
      +16
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race

      Do you consider Trident 2 an arms race? Our regularly mock Kura. request
    7. Tor5
      Tor5 8 November 2015 13: 47 New
      +1
      We say one thing: "Russians are coming !!!" . We do something else. Without shame and conscience.
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 8 November 2015 18: 07 New
        +2
        That's when Korea launches it yes, and then some sort of trident)))
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    9. Amurets
      Amurets 8 November 2015 13: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

      Well, what to go broke and get scared? Apart from a test period, missiles, after a certain shelf life (especially solid propellant rocket engines), carry out a control shoot, which checks the stability of fuel combustion, its energy characteristics. And the Americans shoot in the area of ​​Kvajalein atoll. Our people know about it and constantly Pacific Fleet reconnaissance vessels graze.
    10. marlin1203
      marlin1203 8 November 2015 14: 33 New
      +9
      And where are the tests? This rocket has been in service since the 80s. Normal training start. We have several in the year. Moreover, new developments. What is the article about? Why panic? Can we start writing about every company or battery exercises?soldier
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 November 2015 20: 53 New
        0
        Quote: marlin1203
        What is the article about? Why panic?

        Yes - throw shit on the fan ...
    11. Tusv
      Tusv 8 November 2015 15: 03 New
      0
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

      Not. They will say that the third sentries do not exist (It seems to be translated Minuteman)
    12. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 8 November 2015 15: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

      Is this an arms race? Before writing this, you would have looked at the directories. The 2 Trident was adopted by the 1990. It is already 25 years old, and the design began in 1975. It is already outdated so that it needs to be changed for a long time.
      This is not an arms race, but an attempt to show that they still have something in service.
      1. 222222
        222222 8 November 2015 15: 32 New
        +2
        Aleksey_K (3) SU Today, 15:16 ↑
        @ According to Ryan Perry, spokesman for the 3rd Operational Fleet, a scheduled launch was carried out to check the condition of the rocket system @ hi
      2. mvg
        mvg 8 November 2015 15: 59 New
        +2
        But the B-52s fly from 60gg, the Tu-95s too, why change what is doing its job properly? What can be done better? Will fly faster? Still stick two dozen warheads? Negro put there with a computer and a joystick?
        The rocket will change, the boat will change .. In the meantime, this tandem is "ahead of the rest." Yes, and this is an expensive lesson, even for a printing press .. as if not to overwork.
        So much nuclear weapons have accumulated on the ball that together we can easily make even the lunar landscape everywhere .. and sunny ..
        So it is asked, but on horseradish goat one more button accordion?
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 8 November 2015 19: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Is this an arms race? Before writing this, you would have looked at the directories. The 2 Trident was adopted by the 1990. It is already 25 years old, and the design began in 1975. It is already outdated so that it needs to be changed for a long time.
        This is not an arms race, but an attempt to show that they still have something in service.

        If sclerosis doesn’t fail me, then the last Trident ICBM was modernized in 2000 ... and so far the amers have nothing to replace.
  2. WE ARE MAKING
    WE ARE MAKING 8 November 2015 12: 46 New
    +21
    “... the police received hundreds of calls about aliens, comets, and even atomic explosions.” Many suggested they witnessed a UFO arrival on Earth. ”

    B ***, well, how did they invent the Iphone, how ???
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 8 November 2015 12: 49 New
      +16
      B ***, well, how did they invent the Iphone, how ???


      They are buying scientists from around the world .... for a long time and successfully. 300 country, where do they get their best practices, experience and school from?

      From "their" in the United States, only a printing press and paper. (exaggerating of course - Edison was all the same))

      1. moskovitt
        moskovitt 8 November 2015 12: 56 New
        -2
        Correctly interpret!
        We have both mother oil and father gas, diamonds, copper, nickel ........ and the population is poor. Why so?
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 8 November 2015 13: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: moskovitt
          We have both mother oil and father gas, diamonds, copper, nickel ........ and the population is poor. Why so?

          From the fact that no government will take responsibility to squander the reserve money fund. It is useless to raise salaries and pensions, because prices jump based on the capabilities of consumers, thanks to our businessmen who work according to an outdated buy-sell scheme. If all businessmen are imprisoned, then the commodity circulation will stop, because there is no replacement for them yet. If you scare them, it is useless - they are scared and each of them thinks that he is the smartest and nothing will happen to him. One hope for their children and grandchildren, who will no longer have such large fangs and sharp claws.
          1. cuzmin.mihail2013
            cuzmin.mihail2013 9 November 2015 01: 19 New
            +1
            If in the 90s, someone met with the “new Russians”, then he knew what they want and what they are capable of, based on the knowledge of their origin and about them, at least some kind of submission to the laws, if not state, then at least thieves.
            The children and grandchildren of our businessmen, and with them the individual representatives of the authorities, in principle, generally do not recognize any laws.
            If some kind of illusion can be built regarding their fathers (well, at least it will give money to treat the child, or help the orphanage), then their offspring, in general, are devoid of any hint of humanity.
            They are so confident in their impunity that they try to do their tricks abroad and if this does not get away with them, they are sincerely surprised.
            At the same time, no matter what they would like, to present themselves as “cool”, and here and there, after falling into an emergency, they agree to commit any crimes for the sake of their relatives. On this, they can go without emergency, and they will, naturally, if it gives them something.
            Therefore, there can be no hope for this "golden" generation !!!
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 8 November 2015 13: 19 New
        +21
        Edison was a typical American, that is, not an inventor, but a merchant. He stupidly bought up patents for inventions and introduced it into production, giving all ideas as his own. It is enough to remember how he threw Tesla.
        1. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 8 November 2015 18: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Orionvit
          remember remember how he threw Tesla.

          If you were an American, you would appreciate this joke is a quote. The joker was still that.
      3. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 8 November 2015 15: 43 New
        +15
        Quote: DEZINTO
        They are buying scientists from around the world .... for a long time and successfully. 300 country, where do they get their best practices, experience and school from?

        From "their" in the United States, only a printing press and paper. (exaggerating of course - Edison was all the same))

        You, apparently, correctly wrote. So, when I worked at a military factory in the beginning of the 80-s, we had West German program-controlled machines. And on top, on the machine control cabinets, were our Soviet small-sized computers (electronic computers) with touch-sensitive screens, there was no keyboard. The transfer of control programs took place over the network from the central computer, which at one time received all control programs from an even more central computer located beyond 10 km. We had our own “Internet”, which the West had only dreamed of. And it worked flawlessly. I was on top of the electronic superiority of the USSR to the West, I was directly involved in the introduction of automated control systems from computers at a remote distance, but, for 35 I was silent for years, I had a non-disclosure subscription. Now, of course, this is all considered outdated information. I am writing about this for the first time.
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 8 November 2015 16: 41 New
          +5
          Quote: Алексей_К
          I was on top of the electronic superiority of the USSR to the West

          Put a plus. Such as you are mammoths of an ancient civilization called the USSR! I’m familiar with a man who somehow had, as I understood, attitude to the programming of missile defense systems, he, like you, also said strange things, so, to put it mildly, with some contempt, he treated all modern Western computer developments as a very primitive technique .
          1. Mikhail m
            Mikhail m 8 November 2015 20: 36 New
            0
            However, we all use primitive Western developments and sloppy Western Internet. And our advanced developments remained
            top, on machine control cabinets
            .
        2. Catafract
          Catafract 8 November 2015 19: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: Алексей_К
          We had our own “Internet”, which the West had only dreamed of. And it worked flawlessly
          did not dream, correctly, in all used.
          at Los Angeles, Stanford Research Center, the University of Utah, and the University of California, Santa Barbara. The computer network was named ARPANET (English Advanced Research Projects Agency Network), and in 1969, within the framework of the project, the network united four of these scientific institutions. All work was funded by the US Department of Defense. Then the ARPANET network began to actively grow and develop; scientists from different fields of science began to use it.
      4. Locksmith
        Locksmith 8 November 2015 17: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: DEZINTO
        exaggerating of course - Edison was still)

        Who invented a cartridge for an incandescent lamp and took a patent for a Lodygin bulb under the guise? wink
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 9 November 2015 00: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Locksmith
          Quote: DEZINTO
          exaggerating of course - Edison was still)

          Who invented a cartridge for an incandescent lamp and took a patent for a Lodygin bulb under the guise? wink

          With Lodygin’s bulb, it’s not so simple, look at the work of Swan and Edison. One of the indisputable principles of the incandescent lamp was invented by Lodygin. Everything else is disgraced, because in Russia it was always difficult to take a patent or privilege for an invention.
      5. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 November 2015 21: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: DEZINTO
        The country is 300 years old, where do they get their best practices, experience and school from?

        I wonder who, then, graduate from Cambridge, Harvard, Yale and many other universities with world-famous names and the highest rating. request
        1. gunya
          gunya 8 November 2015 22: 29 New
          0
          Then tell me where did the various Gaidars, Chubais, Grefs, etc. go on probation?
          Cambridge by the way in England.
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 8 November 2015 12: 49 New
      +6
      B ***, well, how did they invent the Iphone, how ???

      good Better in prose and you will not say laughing
    3. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 8 November 2015 12: 51 New
      +5
      Are they? The visiting "blacks" most likely invented.
      1. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 8 November 2015 13: 52 New
        +2
        Brother-2 :)))) Someone you called a nigga. Episode with a bonfire.
    4. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 8 November 2015 12: 54 New
      +6
      All the smartest nations work for them: Germans, Chinese, Jews, Indians, including ours. And only ravshanama and zhumshutovna come to us.
      1. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 8 November 2015 13: 00 New
        +6
        I do not consider the Iphone a success indicator of progress.
      2. moskovitt
        moskovitt 8 November 2015 13: 03 New
        +2
        Salaam, baradar! Why are you offending? Eh, who is the lump ?!
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 8 November 2015 13: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: moskovitt
          Salaam, baradar! Why are you offending? Eh, who is the lump ?!

          I agree with you! And my minus to him ..
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 8 November 2015 13: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Quote: moskovitt
            Salaam, baradar! Why are you offending? Eh, who is the lump ?!

            I agree with you! And my minus to him ..

            Who minus ..? am
        2. GYGOLA
          GYGOLA 8 November 2015 13: 11 New
          +2
          wink it is strong. laughing
    5. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 8 November 2015 12: 56 New
      +5
      When the company melkosoft disclosed part of the source code, there appeared an author’s commentary by the programmer - "well, Lech, well, sir son!"
    6. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 8 November 2015 13: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: AGAIN
      B ***, well, how did they invent the Iphone, how ???

      Ifon Steve Jobs came up with, now deceased. Windu was invented by a bespectacled, small-sized boy ...
      And there still are such ones, as it were, but not enough! And the rest didn’t invent anything! Now there
      Indians, Chinese and others come up with ...
      Degradation, damn it! An iphone turns into a geyfon, slowly but surely! Windows is getting everything
      Worse and Worse. Sunset era, damn it!
      1. mvg
        mvg 8 November 2015 14: 50 New
        +2
        We would have at least some "seedy", but national Windows, at worst, Solaris or Makos ...
        Well, the "Russian iPhone" at the Nokia 3610 level
    7. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 17: 42 New
      0
      Quote: AGAIN
      “... the police received hundreds of calls about aliens, comets, and even atomic explosions.” Many suggested they witnessed a UFO arrival on Earth. ”

      B ***, well, how did they invent the Iphone, how ???


      In the Pentagon, grabbed their heads! It turned out that almost all secret computer war programs were developed by RUSSIAN programmers!

      Well, Iphone is being collected by CHINESE in lap sheds!
  3. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 8 November 2015 13: 10 New
    +5
    Quote: Vladimir
    small Britain there too

    According to the Orange County Sheriff, “after a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about“ aliens ”
    country of cranks in the letter m.
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 November 2015 13: 13 New
    +3
    The United States began to test its missile systems ... Aircraft carriers take away! Well, they’re doing everything right ...
  5. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 November 2015 13: 13 New
    +12
    Trident-2 is actually an old rocket. The first launch was
    in 1987. But she is held for exceptional reliability.
    156 successful test launches and not a single accident.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 8 November 2015 13: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Trident-2 is actually an old rocket. The first launch was
      in 1987. But she is held for exceptional reliability.
      156 successful test launches and not a single accident.

      And you have some, if not secret ...?)))))
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 November 2015 13: 40 New
        +1
        We have no ICBMs.
        1. andj61
          andj61 8 November 2015 13: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          We have no ICBMs.

          Is that for sure? what
          Jericho-3 is a development of the Jericho-2 rocket, its development was completed in 2005. Jericho-3 is a three-stage ballistic missile with a warhead weighing up to one tonne, capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to a range of 2000-4800 km.
          However, the lack of reliable data and the high degree of secrecy of Israeli work led to the fact that in the media the tactical and technical characteristics of the rocket are evaluated over a very wide range, creating confusion. So, some foreign sources estimate the maximum range of Jericho 3 at 6500 km and even up to 11 km, that is, as intercontinental; reports on the possibility of installing a separable warhead with 2-3 warheads, the possible use of a mobile launcher, the possible presence in the IDF of up to three Jericho-3 squadrons, the possible presence of a warhead with a radar homing head, etc. media reports on the results of the test launch on January 17, 2008, said the launch of a two-stage rocket at a range of 4000 km.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 8 November 2015 14: 59 New
            +2
            Jericho 3 - medium-range missile. Range 4-5 thousand km
            The warhead is about 1 ton.
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 8 November 2015 21: 47 New
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Jericho 3 - medium-range missile. Range 4-5 thousand km


              Is it?
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 8 November 2015 23: 38 New
              0
              This is enough to bubble from Africa to Eurasia! So intercontinental !!! laughing
      2. Russiamoy
        Russiamoy 8 November 2015 17: 07 New
        0
        wanted to catch?
    2. mvg
      mvg 8 November 2015 14: 59 New
      +2
      An old one, yes .. True, it flies 11000 km, has 10 to 14 BG, and a KVO in the region of 500 m is stated. Too shy to ask, but somewhere in the world is cooler and longer? Ohio, too, is no longer a girl, only it turned out so well that 955 fights still have to try to catch up with her by noise (or rather, vice versa). Yes, and I don’t think that they didn’t improve them from series to series, like Burke .. Those, too, are no longer boys. Only the first series and the 3rd series, like heaven and earth.
      Interestingly, if you run 156 clubs, then how many will fly?
      PS: I foresee the answers that how much will fly, so much is enough ...
      1. tenotchetlan
        tenotchetlan 8 November 2015 15: 06 New
        +5
        And where does info about the noise level of Borea come from?
        1. mvg
          mvg 8 November 2015 15: 27 New
          +1
          Uncle in state tests. Something like this. When they built the first fight, everyone said: “No, it won’t float” ... I, of course, exaggerate, but I was not enthusiastic about it. But 855 praised ..
          And the noise, as I understand it, is the most necessary thing for the strategist, plus depth .. I was a little bit at the department underwater coffin ..
          1. Rostovchanin
            Rostovchanin 8 November 2015 18: 08 New
            +1
            But 855 praised ..
            Tell me, what kind of project? maybe 885?
          2. user1212
            user1212 8 November 2015 20: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: mvg
            Uncle in state tests

            Well, a very authoritative source.
            1. mvg
              mvg 8 November 2015 21: 11 New
              -2
              And why not a person who has been designing and swimming and experiencing all his life? Maybe there are other sources? Wiki for example? Or the media? Or URAPATRIOTS? And there is: I know ... and that’s it.
              PS: Ash, of course, 885 .. about 20 years old, it seems to him .. But at the level of SiWulf .. I think that the cost of the project is also not far gone.

              No one imposes his opinion. Someone merges Old from the wiki, someone listens at the table ..
              But now really tell me, why would it, the lag in noise, miraculously be eliminated and jumped over?
              1. user1212
                user1212 9 November 2015 06: 34 New
                0
                Quote: mvg
                And why not a person who has been designing and swimming and experiencing all his life?

                It is embarrassing that one person had a hand in the design and testing of two boats of different classes, designed by different design bureaus, and he was also aware of the noise of the “Ohio” extreme versions. Uncle is not Sergun I.D. an hour?
                Quote: mvg
                But now really tell me, why would it, the lag in noise, miraculously be eliminated and jumped over?

                If you do not know anything, this does not mean that it is not. If you have technical information confirming the high noisiness of the 955th, you are so welcome (signature: military prosecutor’s office laughing ) And such concepts as “believe,” “think,” etc. are all OBS.
                Quote: mvg
                But at the SiVulf level .. I think that in terms of the cost of the project, too, have not gone far.

                Here is another confirmation that a personal IMHO may have little to do with reality. The official cost of the UD is about $ 800 million, Sitwulf more than $ 4 billion. And this despite the fact that the 955-strategist, and Sivulf - multi-purpose. Even if you imagine, theoretically, the creation of two identical nuclear submarines in the Russian Federation and the USA, their cost will not be equal due to the large difference in the salaries of shipbuilders and the huge profitability that shipyards put in military orders
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 November 2015 16: 37 New
        +3
        Quote: mvg
        955 fights still have to try to catch up with her noise

        Dear, you surrender to me, just repeat the ancient myth of "roaring cows." Since that time, relevant conclusions were drawn long ago and the necessary constructive decisions were made. I strongly doubt that our people will perform such stupidity and will release the latest but noisy RPKSNy. Please do not mislead the public.
        1. mvg
          mvg 8 November 2015 19: 22 New
          +2
          Dear, you are just too much optimist. Why would it, Russia, after its 90s, make a breakthrough in technology, and even so as to catch up with the leaders? What are the prerequisites?
          Have we ever been leaders in shipbuilding in history? Though NK, even submarines? All the time they were catching up, catching up ... and then bam, the collapse of the Union .. I myself saw how my professors from the department, sorry, sold jackets on the "Juno". And there were worse options.
          What’s so easy for us to have a civilian aircraft industry? Just the other day, they made the P-14 engine, comparable in performance to a general electric, rolls-royce or prat and vitney ..
          And boats, from what fright did we jump “over the head” from 667 to 955? Background? They "caught" a couple of UFOs and tortured them to "surrender" the technology, and even set up a new production ..
          But I’ve studied “roaring cows” at the department .. nothing interesting, there were simply OTHER.
          And about the "newest" 955 ... I know firsthand how the GOSs were built and how they passed .. It's just that there’s no time, as usual .. but you need to change the Pikes .. They, wrestling, to the Ohio, still swim and swim .. Just like the Chinese before us ..
          There must be traditions in the fleet in order to build good boats .. shaves, paddles, japanesics .. and a normal salary for hard workers and engineers. And not so that on a regular basis, every 5-10 years, the state has dipped its people in, excuse me, a dunk .. That’s the whole secret.
          PS: Do you think that we would start ordering the Mistraliki from the frogs, if we could build them ourselves? And this is just a can, compared to the nuclear submarine ..
          1. gunya
            gunya 8 November 2015 22: 35 New
            0
            Ч
            is it just that civilian aircraft manufacturing has died? Just the other day, they made the P-14 engine, comparable in performance to a general electric, rolls-royce or prat and vitney ..


            Have you heard anything about the PS-90?
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 November 2015 22: 04 New
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        The old one is not old, but it surpasses our new Mace by two and a half times, the Trio of the Trio is 2 - 120 meters.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 8 November 2015 16: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Trident-2 is actually an old rocket. The first launch was
      in 1987. But she is held for exceptional reliability.
      156 successful test launches and not a single accident.

      The rocket is good, no one argues. In Soviet times, the states were ahead of us in solid-fuel sea-based missiles, for a long time we had liquid weapons in service, due to the fact that the liquid efficiency was higher. I will explain. A solid-fuel rocket on a nuclear submarine is much preferable to a liquid one, because there is no danger of leakage of toxic components of rocket fuel. Well, now our "Mace" has made it is a buzz! good
  6. Susul
    Susul 8 November 2015 13: 19 New
    +3
    It’s interesting, but what for secrecy, if all members of the nuclear club are warned about such launches? And then you never know whether the warning system will once again raise a panic and the training launch will turn into a non-educational exchange of gifts
    1. mark2
      mark2 8 November 2015 13: 39 New
      +4
      What if it doesn’t fly up or fall? Therefore, everything is covered in a gloom of secrecy. The fall of a strategic missile will be yet another occasion for the sickness of spiteful critics and a blow to the technical “power” of the United States. And since it flew out, flew and flew, all with the words "Thank God" and crossing themselves posted the news this news)
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 8 November 2015 14: 22 New
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        The rocket flew, but I wonder how the submarine feels. As far as I know, they haven’t done any modernization for a long time (neither missiles nor Ohio).
  7. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 13: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    Quote: cniza
    And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

    This is a planned firing of rockets, there is nothing extraordinary in this. Another thing is that when we test rockets they talk about rattling weapons, and when they are in the order of things.

    And when they experience it - here we are talking about rattling weapons ... And we shoot - in the order of things.

    Quote: cniza
    And they will say that there is no arms race? We have something to answer, but not so straightforward, but with a beautiful hint, how much?

    Not straightforward, but how? Curvilinearly? Well, yes, according to Kura, “Poplar” doesn’t fly in a straight line, but in a curve ...
    And where do you see hints in such situations? Share your innermost knowledge? That shot our "Poplar" to check and extend the term. What is the hint?

    Quote: Vladimir 1964
    Well, yes, Dear Victor, do we conduct our tests of the "Mace" based on your comment, is it curvilinear or what?

    Of course curved. After all, it flies not along a straight line, but along a ballistic trajectory
  8. science fiction writer
    science fiction writer 8 November 2015 13: 23 New
    +4
    This message appeared after numerous appeals to the authorities of frightened citizens who watched the bright glow in the night sky over California.

    Here are the bzduns. In our village we would see this, then for three days a holiday drinksrolled up fellow
  9. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 13: 31 New
    +4
    Quote: SUSUL
    It’s interesting, but what for secrecy, if all members of the nuclear club are warned about such launches? And then you never know whether the warning system will once again raise a panic and the training launch will turn into a non-educational exchange of gifts

    Test program until the start is secret. The program, not the launch itself. And the fact of the launch with the date, time and direction is reported to the "interested parties"
  10. mark2
    mark2 8 November 2015 13: 42 New
    +1
    According to the Orange County Sheriff, “after a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about“ aliens, ““ comets, ”and even“ atomic explosions. ” Many suggested that they witnessed the arrival of UFOs on Earth.


    Damn this is to what "reached" progress. People on flashes in the sky immediately determine that they were UFOs. No one thinks that outbreaks can have a completely terrestrial origin.
  11. search engine
    search engine 8 November 2015 13: 42 New
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    Their brains are still trying to digest that huge amount of secret information that they got from Gorbi's "light hand". Yes, and under the BNE wagons secrets passed overseas. It got to the point that they asked for help in processing the received. In addition, a bunch of our scientists "appeared" with them. It was a muddy time, they said it was difficult ... ...
  12. sergio3004
    sergio3004 8 November 2015 13: 44 New
    +1
    Mother’s milk absorbed the last boom of UFOs in America in the 50s, and they see everything.
  13. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 8 November 2015 13: 47 New
    +2
    According to the Orange County Sheriff, “after a bright flying flash appeared in the night sky, the police received hundreds of calls about“ aliens, ““ comets, ”and even“ atomic explosions. ” Many suggested that they witnessed the arrival of UFOs on Earth.

    Of course, I understand that saying so is not good, but ... This is a whole nation of idiots. Rockets and nuclear weapons in the hands of b-d-b-yl children. This is the land ...
  14. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 14: 07 New
    +9
    Quote: MIKHAN
    The United States began to test its missile systems ... Aircraft carriers take away! Well, they’re doing everything right ...

    You will be very surprised, but check regularly. On average - 4 per year (most often within 1-2 days, paired launches). And they did not start checking, but they check it every year. In order not to be unfounded - the number is lower by years in this century
    = 2000 2
    = 2001 4
    = 2002 6
    = 2003 4
    = 2004 4
    = 2005 4
    = 2006 4
    = 2007 3
    = 2008 4
    = 2009 4
    = 2010 0
    = 2011 1
    = 2012 4
    = 2013 4
    2014 = 2 (I do not guarantee the reliability of the last digit. Maybe 4)

    And aircraft carriers, sometimes periodically withdraw, then fail. Do not look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there
  15. Seneca
    Seneca 8 November 2015 14: 29 New
    0
    US missiles always cool. The more often the better.
  16. V.ic
    V.ic 8 November 2015 14: 54 New
    +2
    Dear, I saw a similar picture around August 1984 with a completely clear starry sky at the end of night flights / at about 00h.30 min. on the longitude of the city of Dalnerechensk, and half the sky, and I'm not sure that this missile was Russian ... So there it is.
  17. Lecha57
    Lecha57 8 November 2015 16: 04 New
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    Yes, let them throw it. One "Caliber" terrified, about the other - just guess.
  18. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 16: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: Lecha57
    Yes, let them throw it. One "Caliber" terrified, about the other - just guess.

    Who did he terrify? Really for the Americans? So they have already had such a weapon for about 30 years ...
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 8 November 2015 16: 54 New
    +1
    This is the most serious argument of the Americans.
    The ground "Mintmen" are given less role and attention, A-61 bombs against Russia are not a very convincing argument (this question, as the most important result of the Korean war - about a possible air supremacy and massive bombing in the USSR 0 is negative). It was the “tridents” who kept the nuclear reductions and disarmament all the time from reduction, willingly exchanging the land in which the USSR dominated.
    “Tomahawks” is already a competition of newer delivery technologies that do not, however, have a global range and the ability to carry such powerful warheads.
    1. mvg
      mvg 8 November 2015 20: 58 New
      0
      A-61-12, as you called it, will never fly in the "front" ranks ... First, the "harm'y", then the axes, then all sorts of missiles are simpler (on airwar.ru there is a whole list of all kinds of AIM), and then tactical aviation will take up the matter .. Strike Igly, Tornado, Typhoons, Flu, Mirages, and they will methodically "modify" the foci ..
      This, of course, is a variant of a limited vigorous war. You never know how much we will trust each other (gee-gee) that we will sign an agreement on the destruction of strategic nuclear forces.
  20. 31rus
    31rus 8 November 2015 17: 54 New
    +1
    It doesn’t please, “we’ll take a fool”, “Tridents”, but “Maces”, there will be only one lid
  21. mvg
    mvg 8 November 2015 18: 09 New
    +2
    As it already begins to make up about "Hurray Caliber" ... Less listen to the media and watch, read more. We have them <50 pcs, maybe in a salvo. The United States and its allies have> 3000, while more advanced, proven, and with a bunch of carriers .. and in different versions ..
    A rustle, a fuck, Caliber brought ... If only to the Iranians, as if this thing had not fallen on their Bosko .. There is NO evidence that they should go where they went, if at all.
    And this caliber (3M14) is also a grenade (3M10) for so many years ... as much as the first ax ..
    Salute, of course, on the DR GDP turned out to be quite good ... But that's where x .. if 2 billion rubles in a few minutes ... you can only guess ..
    PS: But every 3rd comment on topvar .. What a cool (terrible) caliber.
    1. Beard31
      Beard31 8 November 2015 20: 06 New
      +2
      It’s absolutely true, Caliber is a typical subsonic cruise missile, and it does not make sense to make a wunderwafle from it, besides I suspect that such standard missiles in the United States, unlike our country, like dirt and large versions of base platforms.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 8 November 2015 20: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Beard31
        It’s absolutely true, Caliber is a typical subsonic cruise missile, and it does not make sense to make a wunderwafle from it, besides I suspect that such standard missiles in the United States, unlike our country, like dirt and large versions of base platforms.

        Maybe you’re right, but not the fact that very soon everything will not change. For example, with the advent of the serial GL-YU-71.
        1. Beard31
          Beard31 8 November 2015 20: 38 New
          0
          I believe that, militarily, our country will be saved from military aggression by NATO and AI countries, the deployment of super-powerful up to 500 megatons of thermonuclear charges located along the lines of geological faults of lithospheric plates, the Atlantic coast of the North American continent, will save. If the west attacks, send them fish food. Apparently, once upon a time, the mighty civilization of Atlantes disappeared from the history of mankind. And you are not Atlanta, I will not miss them. And all these missiles are only to beat the aggressor’s hands, not allowing to bring the matter to the biblical end of the world.
        2. mvg
          mvg 8 November 2015 20: 51 New
          +1
          Yes, the Chinese have U-71 made in china for a long time flying .. Even the pictures are, though airdrome .. What is his prodigy then?
          The project X-37 made in usa says something to you, they, too, have been flying for 2 years already ..
          Where is the military use of one, two, ten devices .. and what will happen if 3000 missiles arrive immediately .. and from different directions, the submarines will pop up where necessary, airbases from the states, around the world .. even in Kyrgyzstan. The Navy swims from the Norwegian Sea to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Mediterranean.
          You live in some kind of world, with a claim to a miracle weapon, which immediately redistributes the balance of power in the world. There was such a wonderful Austro-Jewish typical, also raving .. waffles. And why would Russia or China get ahead of America in this? What are the prerequisites? I made links to aliens and Leonardo da Vinci there above .. otherwise, nothing!
          PS: Enough to live in a pink world, though it is always black and white .. in the best case, gradations of gray ... well, say, 256 bits ..
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 8 November 2015 21: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: mvg
            Yes, with the Chinese, he U-71 made in china has been flying for a long time.

            You don’t confuse, excuse me, a vegetable with a finger. The Russian Glider Yu-71 has been developed for 5-7 years and the Chinese have nothing to do with it. Hyper-speed aircraft are developed by both Russia and the USA and China, but the speeds are stated different. According to the same amers, our glider is already flying and testing (its declared speed, according to some mattresses, will be about 11 km / h. And its carrying capacity will be quite good.
            Amers also have an analogue of our glider, but for the last time it accelerated to a speed of 5800 km / h and collapsed (they had only 2 flight tests of the glider and both were failures). If sclerosis doesn’t fail me, back in the 80s we had rocket accelerating to 5000 km / h.
            Quote: mvg
            The project X-37 made in usa says something to you, they, too, have been flying for 2 years already ..

            What is its carrying capacity? M. and I am wildly sorry, but what will this wunderwaffle do if we stop supplying the RD-180 to the amers?
            Quote: mvg
            Where is the military use of one, two, ten devices.

            Read carefully, I said such a glider is being tested in Russia, and as far as I understand, in this matter we are closest to the goal.
            Quote: mvg
            . and what will happen if 3000 missiles immediately arrive .. at what from different directions,

            There will be a retaliatory strike, followed by the destruction of America as a continent. Or do you think that China or India will calmly watch everything that happens?
            Quote: mvg
            You live in some kind of world, with a claim to a miracle weapon, which immediately redistributes the balance of power in the world.

            Dear, I live in the real world, unlike you, and your praise of Amer’s power and alarmism. A simple example for people like you is the launch of our Caliber. 26 missiles in total, but the tone and manner of speaking with us has changed dramatically. And the attitude it’s gone somewhere to the binzola, but the hysteria around the world of our sworn “friends” is heard on every corner.
            Quote: mvg
            And why would Russia or China get ahead of America in this? What are the prerequisites? I made links to aliens and Leonardo da Vinci there above .. otherwise, nothing!

            For less, see REN-TV, Dear laughing
            Quote: mvg
            PS: Enough to live in a pink world, though it is always black and white .. in the best case, gradations of gray ... well, say, 256 bits ..

            And looking at your view of the world, it is necessary to collect things with a run and go to surrender to Washington.
            1. mvg
              mvg 8 November 2015 22: 13 New
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              How did the Americans live before the appearance of the RD-180? I won’t know. Armstrong is still in shock. If I were alive. Like the next generation of astronauts.

              About the Chinese "glider" - this is me with a mockery, I'm sorry that it is imperceptible .. It does not fly, this waffle .. And when it flies, only God knows, so far only on paper.

              About our miracle car? What really flew? I do not believe. The fact that the American crashed twice - I believe that there is a way for her. There has never been a controlled hypersonic flight.

              REN-TV do not watch, once. This is ALL TV! There is HOUSE 2, I'm scared!

              I’m not going to give up either. Russians DO NOT GIVE UP!

              Yes, if 3000 axes arrive immediately, of which at least% 10 with nuclear warheads, I would rather die right away. I don’t want to see how my children will suffer .. Here’s such a strategy, from school, after lessons of life safety, it developed .. I won’t run to the bomb shelter. I would like to be at the post in the warhead-2 at this time.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 8 November 2015 22: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: mvg
                How did the Americans live before the appearance of the RD-180?

                If the Americans live well, then why are our RD-180s buying? And there is an answer, would there be an alternative, we wouldn’t buy a billion (this is the figures for the last contract)
                Quote: mvg
                About our miracle car? What really flew? I do not believe.

                It flew ... though everything is classified there ... but back in the 90s there was such an X-90 rocket that successfully accelerated to 5400 km per hour.
                Quote: mvg
                There has never been a controlled hypersonic flight.

                That's why I can’t say anything specific about it yet. Everything is secret.
                Quote: mvg
                REN-TV do not watch, once. This is ALL TV! There is HOUSE 2, I'm scared!

                I absolutely agree here. In the box, there is horror and tolerance. laughing
                Quote: mvg
                I’m not going to give up either. Russians DO NOT GIVE UP!

                That's it!
                Quote: mvg
                Yes, if 3000 axes arrive immediately, of which at least% 10 with nuclear warheads, I would rather die right away. I don’t want to see how my children will suffer .. Here’s such a strategy, from school, after lessons of life safety, it developed .. I won’t run to the bomb shelter. I would like to be at the post in the warhead-2 at this time.

                The fact of the matter is that in response many times more gifts can fly, and not only from the territory of Russia. Americans, though stupid, but not suicides.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 8 November 2015 22: 39 New
              0
              The X 37 spacecraft has a loading capacity of 900 kilograms and technically nothing prevents us from making it an orbital warhead with a capacity of 1 megaton and our cessation of engine deliveries for Atlases, it will not affect the launch of these vehicles into orbit, the United States is full of other rockets with its own engines that this spaceship can bring, they will not have a shortage of RD 180 engines, because we are now fulfilling a contract for the supply of 60 such engines in the United States.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 8 November 2015 22: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: Vadim237
                The X 37 spacecraft has a loading capacity of 900 kilograms and technically nothing prevents us from making it an orbital warhead with a capacity of 1 megaton and our cessation of engine deliveries for Atlases, it will not affect the launch of these vehicles into orbit, the United States is full of other rockets with its own engines that can bring this spaceship

                And where is it “full of other missiles?” I repeat, there would be an alternative, there wouldn’t be an order for our RD-180s. The Ukrainians tried to remake the RD-190 for amers, and what didn’t remind me of?
                Quote: Vadim237
                they will not have a shortage of RD 180 engines, because we are now fulfilling a contract for the supply of 60 such engines in the USA.

                Because the X-37 is not such a radical threat. In addition, I can ask you a question - are you sure that our Spiral project will not be finalized? Indeed, if there is no such information in the public domain, this does not mean that this fact is not nature.
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  24. starec.luka
    starec.luka 8 November 2015 18: 36 New
    +1

    ours is better anyway
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 November 2015 22: 24 New
      +1
      Sineva's ICBMs are already being replaced by the Liner.
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 9 November 2015 09: 29 New
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        Sineva ICBMs are already being replaced by the Liner

        There is no big difference between them. “Liner” - a modification of “Sineva” and not a new rocket, but with some improvements (I can’t write with which ones)
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  25. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 18: 47 New
    +2
    Quote: starec.luka
    ours is better anyway

    Not to add not to decrease to comment. And why argumentation. The main thing is to write that ours is better ...
    1. starec.luka
      starec.luka 8 November 2015 18: 52 New
      -1
      yes this is my opinion. and that something is bad. the videos are good,
  26. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 18: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: starec.luka
    good videos

    The video is beautiful. But what the "expert" says is far-fetched ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 November 2015 19: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      The video is beautiful. But what the "expert" says is far-fetched ...

      What does this “attraction” consist of? The expert said briefly and on the case. In addition, the technical characteristics (approximate) of all of them and our ICBMs are in the public domain.
  27. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 20: 42 New
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    What does this "attraction" consist of?

    What is the attraction?
    To begin with, he spoke absolutely correctly about the maximum throwing weight, and he is the same for the Trident and for the Sineva (2800 kg), and about the starting weight.

    Well, then everything is "pulled". It is said that the Trident at 11300 shoots without load, but the Sineva at such a range (11500) shoots at full load. And this is linden.

    The nominal range of the Sineva is 8300 km. But she does not give this range with a load of 2800 km. With a maximum load, she has a range of about 6700 km. At a range of 8300 km - a load of about 2300 kg. At 11500 km, the cast weight is about 1600 kg. that is, with 2 warheads.
    “Expert” claims that it flies with a standard load, that is, with 4 BG.

    In relation to the Trident. With a maximum load of 8 or 14 BG, the range is about 7800 km. But with a reduced load of 4 blocks - already at 11300. But the “expert”, alas, is too biased towards the performance characteristics ... Well, with a quasi-ballistic trajectory, too, I got it. Ours can, but the Trident ....
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 November 2015 21: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      Well, then everything is "pulled". It is said that the Trident at 11300 shoots without load, but the Sineva at such a range (11500) shoots at full load. And this is linden.

      Again, we don’t know the true TTX. And the expert made a reservation saying that we declare with a decrease, and the Americans with an increase in TTX. So here is your word against it. With regard to range, etc. ... then I am more inclined to believe the expert , (and it is not a matter of patriotism and praise of our missiles). For me, he explained quite popularly and intelligibly.
      Sincerely. hi
  28. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 21: 08 New
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Maybe you’re right, but not the fact that very soon everything will not change. For example, with the advent of the serial GL-YU-71.

    Actually, the Yu-71, or rather 15Y71, is a 15P771 missile, created on the basis of the 15A35 missile. And by no means a glider. have been testing it for several years and still the trials are unstable. Nobody knows how many will bring it. But the enemy also does not sit still, work on the GZLA is underway (and in the same way as we have unstable)
    And in terms of number, Beard is right31. The number of such missiles among Americans is 2 orders of magnitude higher, and the carriers are generally not only larger, but they also carry much more CDs than our carriers.

    Quote: Beard31
    I believe that, militarily, our country will be saved from military aggression by NATO and AI countries, the deployment of super-powerful up to 500 megatons of thermonuclear charges located along the lines of geological faults of lithospheric plates, the Atlantic coast of the North American continent, will save. If the west attacks, send them fish food. Apparently, once upon a time, the mighty civilization of Atlantes disappeared from the history of mankind. And you are not Atlanta, I will not miss them. And all these missiles are only to beat the aggressor’s hands, not allowing to bring the matter to the biblical end of the world.

    The previous post about the amount of CR you have is absolutely normal. And as for the charges - you begin to repeat the unknown myth for some time. Not only have such charges never existed, and it is not even known how they will work. Second, no one has ever tested the effect of charges on faults. Work was discontinued around the mid-70s, when it became clear that it was impossible to predict the result. The charge at the San Anders Fault will be blown up, they will drown California, and at the same time another XZ can sink to the bottom? Caucasus, or Crimea, or Leningrad, and maybe Primorye.
    And the third. Charges, especially such should be regularly serviced. Moreover, between the regulations - a few months. And how are you going to produce such a regulation. Not only will the 500-megaton charge have an enormous weight (50 mt - it weighed 27 tons, calculate how much it will weigh 500 mt. IMHO tons 130-150). so it will first have to be lowered to the bottom, and then regularly get out? It's time to forget the myth of the "Strait after Stalin"
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 November 2015 21: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      Actually, the Yu-71, or rather 15Y71, is a 15P771 missile, created on the basis of the 15A35 missile. And by no means a glider.


      Then what if it is not a hypersonic aircraft?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 November 2015 22: 13 New
        +2
        In general, the Yu-71 is a maneuvering warhead, the first model of which was tested back in 2007, on the UR 100UTTX missile.
      2. mvg
        mvg 8 November 2015 22: 49 New
        0
        Oh, God, I watched the video .. Something inspired me with Oriflame, and something else .. Coca-Cola, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and other advertising .. Fortunately, it’s also connected with advertising. ... That's something like normal Ukrainians from Slavs, made dill ... Now it’s clear where "URAPATR ..." comes from ...
        Let's just say that not everything, far from everything that is conceived, brought to mind. I don’t even know what these videos are made for .. In paper (electronic) form, I see them every day in the news ... Brainwashing is called ..

        PS: I offer more in essence than about advertising .. the site is worth it.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 8 November 2015 22: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: mvg
          Oh, God, I watched the video .. Something inspired me with Oriflame, and something else .. Coca-Cola, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and other advertisements ..

          Attention! yes ... but you watched amers videos about the F-35 and F-22 and generally about the US Army?
          The fact of the development of the Yu-71 is ... and this is a confirmed fact. Indirect evidence is the development of the SARMAT ICBM with a stage that will accelerate the rocket to hyper sound. But hereinafter, not for the eyes of the average man.
          Quote: mvg
          Let's just say, not everything, far from everything that is conceived, brought to mind

          It is necessary to respond to threats. Supostat does not calm down. So, advertising is advertising, but I think the idea was conveyed quite intelligibly.
  29. mvg
    mvg 8 November 2015 21: 33 New
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    At the beginning of the 60's, when Harrison Ford had the honor of sailing (walking) on ​​the K-19, with 3 R-13 SLBMs on board, apparently from 600 km range, the staff at that time had a series of 9 missile carriers with 16 SLBM Polaris-2A (UGM-27) with a range of 1800 km ..
    Well, what could be the backlog?

    PS: The country worked for wear and tear to send this SSBN on the first campaign.
  30. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2015 22: 15 New
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    For me, he explained quite popularly and intelligibly.

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    And the expert made a slip of the tongue, saying that we are declining with a decrease, and the Americans with an increase in TTX. So here is your word against him. With regard to range, etc. ... then I'm more inclined to believe the expert

    Believe it. I believe Degtyaru more ...

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    Then what if it is not a hypersonic aircraft?

    Hypersonic aircraft, but by no means Yu-71. As there is no X-90 rocket, which is the fruit of the magazine