NATO: A giant radio-electronic bubble in Syria does not allow us to fly

NATO: A giant radio-electronic bubble in Syria does not allow us to fly

Blinded by radar, disrupted the electronic guidance systems, as well as set a hindrance satellite imagery in the "bubble" in diameter 600 km, according to one of NATO generals in the publication Daily OSNet.


From the combat zone in northern Syria came news about the deployment of a new Russian electronic jamming system, which can reportedly blind the radar, disrupt electronic guidance systems, and also interfere with satellite imagery.

This last post follows an earlier report on the Russian cruiser with the S-300 missile defense system deployed off the coast of Latakia. Both of these systems make up what the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of NATO, General Philip Breedlove, describes as the “Russian bubble” of A2 / AD (anti-access / restricted area) in Syria, writes Daily OSNet.

As a result, NATO turned out to be effectively blinded inside a bubble with a diameter of 600 km, centered on the Russian base in Latakia. Further, the author tries to understand what the secret weapon Russians deployed in Syria. It assumes that the technology in question seems to be similar to KRET Richag (smiled), but apparently with functions of a larger scale. A tactical version of this system was presented to journalists in Russia in April 2015.

The Richag system, mounted on the base of the Mi-8MT helicopter. They say that now there is no way to suppress it. Its electronic countermeasure is designed to blind the radar, sonar and other detection systems in order to protect airplanes, helicopters, UAVs, land and sea forces against air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles and other defense systems within a radius of several hundred kilometers. It can be installed on blocks of any kind of armed forces, including helicopters and airplanes, as well as ground and ship forces. Much attention in the article is paid to the crocodile tears of NATO General Philip Breedlove, who said that in addition to the Baltic States and the Black Sea, the Russians closed our access to the Mediterranean.

Do not forget the inglorious mission of "Donald Cook" in the Black Sea.

Judging by their actions, they frantically search for points of contact, but they are afraid that they will accept the abrupt transition from confrontation to cooperation for surrender. To Obama, this is an aspen stake in a political career. For some considerable time, we do not hear any “raids” on V. Churkin in the UN from one unbalanced person. The tone and content of the speech of J. Kerry regarding Syria and Ukraine has changed. No one is demanding the immediate departure of Assad, but they are already reprimanding the Poroshenko regime for violating the Minsk decisions. Russia gives a calm and adequate response to the insults. Now the American media themselves recalled to Obama everything he said about the "economy torn to pieces" and about Russia, as a "regional power", but in an unpleasant way for him.

Readers' comments are about the same as on the Censor. We do not believe, all lies, we will destroy with a simple rocket, Kremlin propaganda, although there are also common thoughts, as America has reached such a state when it is being driven away from everywhere.

PS by reference Foreign OS Daily OSNet
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2015 05: 51 New
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    General Philip Breedlove describes how "Russian bubble" A2 / AD (anti-access / restricted area) in Syria,
    you yourself are a "bubble" Mr. Breedlove! and your country is the Bubble! wassat for us, this is a controlled space. here and survived to the wars of the future, science fiction in life.
    1. svp67 9 November 2015 06: 09 New
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      hi
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      for us, this is a controlled space.

      I’m wondering what the “scammers” say about this, especially in terms of our invasion ...
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        KOH 9 November 2015 06: 12 New
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        Govnopolsky was told on the phone that: "We all obsseram!"))))
        1. crazyrom 9 November 2015 06: 28 New
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          Oh how it turns out! "The best army in the world" with the largest budget was powerless against a small Russian base (which was not even completed yet).
          1. aktanir 9 November 2015 07: 28 New
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            the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty
            1. LeftPers 9 November 2015 08: 14 New
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              And I recall Dolores Ibarruri: "It is better to die standing than to live on your knees." Of course, it’s not about death, but let them compromise, and our position is firm and clear, and it’s not worth bending down under all the freaks of Russia.
              1. severniy 9 November 2015 10: 28 New
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                Rzhach article !!!!!! laughing I remembered how I played in Stalker with cheats .....
                It's great that not all brains left the country!
                I may be a urapatriot, but thank you to the author for the positive on Monday .... hi
                1. Navy7981 10 November 2015 17: 00 New
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                  "It's great that not all brains left the country!"

                  I support you and think that the average and the worst have left! The best ones are here! Results on the face!
              2. kapitan281271 9 November 2015 10: 36 New
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                It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                PS The officially declared income of Mr. Sechen 4 million rubles ATTENTION ON A DAY!
                1. Samaritan 9 November 2015 10: 56 New
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                  Quote: kapitan281271
                  It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                  PS The officially declared income of Mr. Sechen 4 million rubles ATTENTION ON A DAY!

                  Those. football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world doesn’t ???
                  Bulk relocate!
                  1. severniy 9 November 2015 11: 05 New
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                    Quote: Samaritan
                    Quote: kapitan281271
                    It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                    PS The officially declared income of Mr. Sechen 4 million rubles ATTENTION ON A DAY!

                    Those. football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world doesn’t ???
                    Bulk relocate!

                    I would not bring down in one heap the talented athletes and grabbers-bureaucrats who were on time at the distribution. Do not insult this sport, besides income is NOT COMPARABLE !!!! Do not forget that "these" are bought by athletes and entire teams, and not vice versa ...
                    1. Samaritan 9 November 2015 13: 30 New
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                      About
                      Quote: severniy
                      NOT COMPARIBLE !!!!

                      Parashenka earned about 800 million $$, Trump about 1 billion ... that is, they are 2-3 million. $$$ per day ... that is, 40 times more !!! Sechin is just an Kazan orphan in comparison with them !!!
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                      2. NordUral 24 March 2018 22: 41 New
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                        What a pity you are, Andrey. Yes, take pity on “our” rogues.
                    2. Samaritan 9 November 2015 20: 00 New
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                      Quote: severniy
                      Quote: Samaritan
                      Quote: kapitan281271
                      It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                      PS The officially declared income of Mr. Sechen 4 million rubles ATTENTION ON A DAY!

                      Those. football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world doesn’t ???
                      Bulk relocate!

                      I would not bring down in one heap the talented athletes and grabbers-bureaucrats who were on time at the distribution. Do not insult this sport, besides income is NOT COMPARABLE !!!! Do not forget that "these" are bought by athletes and entire teams, and not vice versa ...

                      only now there are oligarchs who raise foreign clubs, but there are ours !!! And once again, Sechin in this regard deserves respect that he did not fall as the rest, but raises Russia, 100 thousand people work for him and brings profit to the treasury! In short, I got sick ... come to my bathhouse on Thursday, there you can discuss a foggy bottle! drinks
                      1. Starley from the south 11 November 2015 01: 21 New
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                        But once in Russia at the end of the 19 century, philanthropy was highly developed among merchants. Merchants then received all sorts of preferences and awards from the tsarist government. Recall that the merchant Tretyakov created an art gallery, Soldatenkov contained many free libraries and hospitals for the poor. And now there are rich and honest, for whom the Motherland is not an empty phrase. It’s only a pity that there are few such people. I only hope that there will be more of them further.
                    3. nerd.su 9 November 2015 23: 30 New
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                      Quote: severniy
                      I wouldn’t bring together talented athletes and grabbers,

                      Is this about our football team?
                  2. twviewer 9 November 2015 14: 41 New
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                    Quote: Samaritan
                    football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world doesn’t ???
                    Bulk relocate!

                    well, let him go play hockey, Putin has been training for a long time :)

                    By the way, Putin once said that heads of state corporations would receive as officials, well, people can see a short memory, and a language without bones.
                  3. KORFOR 9 November 2015 19: 14 New
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                    Quote: Samaritan
                    Quote: kapitan281271
                    It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                    PS The officially declared income of Mr. Sechen 4 million rubles ATTENTION ON A DAY!

                    Those. football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world doesn’t ???
                    Bulk relocate!

                    Yes, let them get ..., EVERYTHING ... and the oligarchs and athletes ... If only they paid the hard workers ... !! And not 20t. and 100t.r. - least...!! Then let them even go to the golden toilets ..! And then they have 4 lyamas a day, and granny buys a liter of milk for 3 days ... !! ((((
                    1. Beard 11 November 2015 10: 09 New
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                      soon we will receive so much. laughing
                  4. igorka357 10 November 2015 06: 32 New
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                    Che for nonsense, not a single athlete in the world gets 4 lyama per day! Are you finally from what planet?
                    1. Yuyuka 10 November 2015 14: 59 New
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                      finally it’s not about athletes, but about “read above” repeat
                  5. Yuyuka 10 November 2015 15: 06 New
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                    Those. football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world doesn’t ???

                    No problem! let it get! only to us all about the crisis and sanctions, they poke a national treasure and immediately sell it to us at very market prices! in addition, raise taxes, energy prices! if it’s so hard for everyone - can we share the burden? in reasonable pleporia? well, at least due to an increase in taxes on the rich, not much, at least a few percent, decency for the sake of repeat
                  6. papas-57 11 November 2015 05: 18 New
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                    ''Those. football players and hockey players can receive, but the head of one of the largest companies in the world does not. '' And this company was created personally by him, a genius, on his honestly earned money? Did he save a penny all his life, was malnourished himself, his family was hungry? Not a damn thing like that. An ordinary bureaucrat got into the right stream, that's all his achievements.
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                  8. 3axap82 11 November 2015 05: 37 New
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                    And you yourself are not Sechin by chance?))) But you don’t believe that the average Russian will stand up for one of the largest, there are no entrepreneurs, but USERS. income.
                2. podpolkovnik 9 November 2015 11: 14 New
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                  Quote: kapitan281271
                  It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                  PS The officially declared income of Mr. Sechen 4 million rubles ATTENTION ON A DAY!
                  1. 3axap82 12 November 2015 06: 00 New
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                    Judging by the photo and reaction, you are Lieutenant Colonel Massad and have nothing to do with Russia, except for the fact that you know Russian.
                    PS I know that this is Rowan Atkinson.))
                3. Nick 9 November 2015 19: 20 New
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                  Quote: kapitan281271
                  It’s standing, of course, it’s better, but I don’t really want to die while standing because of the stupidity and lack of utility of the butler and manturov’s, well, in the sense not because ******* but somehow offensively, and I would like for Russia’s sovereign policy not only my family paid, but also, as it were, to add to this payment the Secrets, Deripasok, and in the extreme case Serdyukovs.

                  Are you looking for an excuse for betrayal?
              3. andrew42 9 November 2015 14: 39 New
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                Yes nowhere else to bend. And so they crawled away from the edge of the abyss, and move further away, which cannot but rejoice!
            2. northern 9 November 2015 08: 19 New
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              What again, "Putinsilvsepropalo"? change training manual
              1. aktanir 9 November 2015 12: 45 New
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                I wrote about the fact that we are going into poverty, because life has become more difficult. And it’s somehow unpleasant when the reduction in income during various optimizations and reductions concerns only ordinary citizens, and real loafers like State Duma deputies with a salary of 600 thousand rubles a month continue to watch us from TV screens. They sit for nothing and wonder, it was 0,3 ppm, now let's do 0,1, now it was 0,1 now let's show our work and come up with a different value ... They’re doing it ... instead of really working and inventing it specific measures to save the wallets of citizens, the country's economy, the development of entrepreneurship, agriculture, engineering, industry as a whole. Instead, they found an inventive way to replenish the treasury through coercion at the level of the law to pay all property and other types of taxes. They turn life into a rip-off ...
                1. Xsanchez 9 November 2015 20: 12 New
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                  Glazyeva at the premiere! Medvedev with Ulyukaev and Nabiullin resigned. Nationalize the Central Bank. Drive the libertrians to the dog.
                  1. 3axap82 12 November 2015 06: 13 New
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                    And you turn to Putin with this proposal. Doesn't want to listen ?! Strange ....
                2. 97110 9 November 2015 22: 50 New
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                  Quote: aktanir
                  They do it .. instead of really working and coming up with specific measures to save the wallets of citizens

                  Wake up, in the country CAPITALISM is built. Where has it been seen under capitalism - specific measures to save the wallets of all citizens in general? Enough to save selected wallets for the successful operation of the principle of economic coercion of voters. Then democracy will shine in a well-organized capitalist society. And if ALL wallets are saved, anarchy will certainly ensue from the harmful feeling of independence of voters.
                3. northern 10 November 2015 08: 26 New
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                  Do you know such a saying - "Every nation is worthy of its rulers"? Nobody climbs the barricades, right? Therefore, this state of affairs suits. And you cannot impress many with the mere words, unless you are of course Tolstoy or Dostoevsky.
                4. shpilkerman 10 November 2015 15: 35 New
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                  Nobody will work there seriously, while most of the crooks sitting there. I don’t understand how Valuev ended up there. His forehead struck the wall of the State Duma and sat down, or what? What can we say about bills if people are sitting there who are far from politics. Athletes, actors - they do not belong there, for sure.
                  1. northern 10 November 2015 21: 30 New
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                    We knew one president, a former actor ...
                5. SAXA.SHURA 11 November 2015 19: 15 New
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                  Yes, I agree with you on this, but you don’t need to be discouraged either, and despondency is one of mortal sins. Of course, I would like our people to live in prosperity and the children would be happy and no one would threaten us with war, but Russia was in different alterations, and those who want to try us on the teeth let them become a dentist in the queue, otherwise they will chew gums. Like this.
            3. mihasik
              mihasik 9 November 2015 08: 58 New
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              Quote: aktanir
              the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty

              What are the tradeoffs? Who to look for?
              In our economy, not the Americans were fucking, but their "native" government. Played off with * ka, in iPhone!
              I still do not understand: in the Government of the Russian Federation, who are all these people and for what "merits" are they allowed to sit at the "feeding trough"? Who collected them there?
              The list of the track record, please announce!
              1. Vadim237 9 November 2015 09: 49 New
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                Well, it’s no longer a secret that most of the deputies, including regional governors, went to power to earn a boble, on state property and budgetary funds they now have land sales and construction in their top places.
                1. Baikonur 9 November 2015 09: 56 New
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                  World government, mother of their leg! Salts! Cavaliers of the orders of foreign legions!
                  Thieves of socialist property! (Experienced, x / f "operation" Y ")
                  Joseph Vissarionovich, wake up! Work is unmeasured!
                  1. severniy 9 November 2015 10: 41 New
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                    Quote: mihasik
                    in iPhones!

                    Yeah, envy !!!!!! lol Maybe you still remember pens and watches good
                    1. Jackking 9 November 2015 11: 04 New
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                      This is not envy, but an attempt to open your eyes to the fact that in most cases, and among our government, too, an iPhone is smarter than its owner. And any other smartphone too (even single-core laughing ) - but the possession of iPhones also shows a limited mind and the presence of dependence on herd opinions ...
                    2. severniy 9 November 2015 11: 07 New
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                      Quote: severniy
                      Quote: mihasik
                      in iPhones!

                      Yeah, envy !!!!!! lol Maybe you still remember pens and watches good

                      Quarrel for you with a small letter ... hi
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                        mihasik 9 November 2015 12: 24 New
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                        Quote: severniy
                        Quote: severniy
                        Quote: mihasik
                        in iPhones!

                        Yeah, envy !!!!!! lol Maybe you still remember pens and watches good

                        Quarrel for you with a small letter ... hi

                        Yes, no, I'm not touchy, but I’ll bite my ear on the token!)
                        The point is not the presence of an “accessory”, but the absence of any positive actions when admiring it. (And they still get a feeble salary for this).
                        Or from the opposite: let them not do anything, if only they would not prevent professionals from pulling the country out of the threshing floor.
                      2. severniy 9 November 2015 16: 50 New
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                        Quote: mihasik
                        Quote: severniy
                        Quote: severniy
                        Quote: mihasik
                        in iPhones!

                        Yeah, envy !!!!!! lol Maybe you still remember pens and watches good

                        Quarrel for you with a small letter ... hi

                        Yes, no, I'm not touchy, but I’ll bite my ear on the token!)
                        The point is not the presence of an “accessory”, but the absence of any positive actions when admiring it. (And they still get a feeble salary for this).
                        Or from the opposite: let them not do anything, if only they would not prevent professionals from pulling the country out of the threshing floor.

                        So I current for .. Or you did not make out sarcasm ... lol Moreover, it is doubly offensive to me that a public person, the second person of the state, clicks on an apple in front of a mirror. Hardness fool , it’s like a grandmother in an oval office The Russian flag would be hung .....
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                        mihasik 9 November 2015 18: 19 New
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                        Quote: severniy
                        So I current for .. Or you did not make out sarcasm ...

                        Duc saw)).
                      4. 97110 9 November 2015 23: 07 New
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                        Quote: severniy
                        the second person of the state clicks on the apple in front of the mirror. Hardness

                        It is necessary to ask the President about the unspoken obligation of the head of the cabinet to use exclusively the Y-background.
              2. Yujiko 11 November 2015 07: 15 New
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                "They filled the whole plan" (c) ComedyClub
          2. innoker-1563 9 November 2015 11: 07 New
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            I totally agree with you! The government headed by the prime minister is worthless. While ballast hang on the neck, there is not a single positive moment from them.
            1. Belousov 9 November 2015 13: 49 New
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              And here the question arises - who actually keeps them there? Who is stopping Putin from dispersing them? And he will only have enough of them "for success." Among the successes, for example, stabbing the stabilization fund and the bitterness that it will end soon, there will be nothing to saw.
              1. Sega66 9 November 2015 15: 41 New
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                You see from the sofa you know better how they work than the GDP in place.
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                  mihasik 9 November 2015 17: 01 New
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                  Quote: Sega66
                  You see from the sofa you know better how they work than the GDP in place.

                  Yes, not only from the couch, but also to the shops (although sometimes now), but I also go to the pharmacy. And you do not notice "cardinal improvements"? Are you doing fine?
                  Earn in currency or shares in Gazprom? Then yes, everything is fine with you. Especially with income in foreign currency living in the ruble zone is a freebie!
                  Most of all, it infuriates that these lovely uncles from the Government of the Russian Federation solve the country's problems by worsening the standard of living of the population.
                  Do not explain why these lovely uncles, against the backdrop of "universal success in the economy," raised their already not small salaries at times? Are you raised from a good life, or is there not enough money? And why did one stop grabbing at a friend? Maybe they took care of the rest? Well, at least they raised a civil servant? No? Why?
                  Maybe we are talking about different countries here?
              2. Xsanchez 9 November 2015 20: 36 New
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                It’s necessary to answer for the reduction of the stabilization fund! The government is to answer! Assisting the financial sector of the economy, guilty of collapses, is a crime. Instead of helping production to reduce interest, they continue to kill the industry with high percentages. At the same time, the government prays as an icon: reducing inflation. pests.
            2. Belousov 9 November 2015 13: 49 New
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              And here the question arises - who actually keeps them there? Who is stopping Putin from dispersing them? And he will only have enough of them "for success." Among the successes, for example, stabbing the stabilization fund and the bitterness that it will end soon, there will be nothing to saw.
          3. NordUral 9 November 2015 11: 27 New
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            That's it! Our enemy is the liberals in the government, in the Central Bank, in all verticals and branches of government, from top to bottom.
          4. Prophetic 9 November 2015 18: 51 New
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            So, we’re not talking nonsense! am The blow to our economy was caused primarily by a fall in oil prices by half. And this blow was done precisely by the Americans. Whoever claims the opposite does not understand anything in geopolitics. Moreover, the blow struck at a loss. (Shale oil is unprofitable at current prices.) Pure policy. And do not rumble about the fact that our allegedly did nothing before. Ten years ago, at the current decline in prices, GDP would have collapsed percent on 25, and now only on 4.8%. And it's all. There will be no more fall.
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              mihasik 10 November 2015 03: 23 New
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              Quote: Prophetic
              So, we’re not talking nonsense! The blow to our economy was caused primarily by a fall in oil prices by half.

              What are you, really? And do you still believe in this blizzard? Or maybe these "improvements" happened from the West-oriented economic policy of our Government, instead of developing and modernizing our own? And what are we now observing, its consequences, reinforced by the economic war? What consequences, nobody calculated? If so, what are these people still doing in power? Joining the WTO what turned out for all sectors of domestic industry? Is she gone? Where did it go? Did you leave for China? It’s entirely joint ventures and foreign owners, we buy the rest abroad, even for the military-industrial complex! This is with * ka nonsense. Agriculture was almost completely ruined, but the networkers did not give up, and they are still trying to finish it. So where is the bullshit?
              If the whole thing is about the price of oil, as a negative time factor, tell me, how did we live in 2008 at an oil price of $ 28 per barrel?
              1. Yuyuka 10 November 2015 22: 38 New
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                If the whole thing is about the price of oil, as a negative time factor, tell me, how did we live in 2008 at an oil price of $ 28 per barrel?

                where does the oil price really! The question is how many plants have bent over the past 15 years? And not small ones! type in a search engine - "pleasantly" be surprised am and even now - acquaintances work at the once largest factory, now there are "horns and legs"! And after the New Year, another 30% reduction! I don’t know what wave, and everything under the Christmas tree was mostly! There are no words ... some obscene ...
          5. Xsanchez 9 November 2015 20: 18 New
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            Look for the ends in Leningrad in 1989. Yandex to help!
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              mihasik 10 November 2015 03: 29 New
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              Look for the ends in Leningrad in 1989. Yandex to help!

              Friends of Sobchak?)
          6. dimunder 9 November 2015 21: 03 New
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            I totally agree !!! sit all garbage invent, prevent ordinary people from living !!! such creatures are called parasites! as Zadornov said, “Deputies are servants of the people. Why do servants live better than their masters?” All our Duma members must be thrown for a year into the life that lives by ordinary people. and I’m sure it would immediately clear their brains!
          7. 97110 9 November 2015 23: 00 New
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            Quote: mihasik
            Who collected them there?

            Look who forms a government in our well-organized country. Information is open, does not require such agiotage. At the same time, decide on your own role. Did you exercise your voting right? Or pounded loudly on the left chest? In the hope of whose ears?
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              mihasik 10 November 2015 03: 37 New
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              Did you exercise your voting right? Or pounded loudly on the left chest? In the hope of whose ears?

              Used. Only now, if you believe the triumph of the election law, tell me, where do ratings and opinion polls come from? For my whole life no one has asked me anything). I live my whole life in a million city, in the center .. The questioners haven’t reached?) Wasn’t there enough strength?) Or didn’t they reach me?)
              1. 97110 10 November 2015 09: 47 New
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                Only if you believe the triumph of election law

                Yes, I'm too old for such a belief. With the general connivance. I will give you another example, not ratings and polls. Why do owners and tenants of residential premises in MKD meekly pay the debts of their neighbors? No strength to deal with the management company? It is clear that it is generally difficult to fight a legal entity. But the turnover, not paying the rent, face to ferment nizya? To a direct question you come across a direct misunderstanding of a simple fact. If the neighbor does not pay, then you, you personally, live worse. No, the authorities are guilty, it's the bureaucrats snickering at the feeding trough. At the same time, it is impossible to assemble meetings of owners of residential premises. Some blissful come to yell about the destruction of cars parking in the yard. Throughout the city, literally a couple of houses live sane old men who forced to pay all the neighbors. They have a common house minimum. The rest do not want to engage in OWNERSHIP. Someone else, best of all, directly Putin, MUST. With such "citizens" it is a sin not to use the possibilities of the law.
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                  The rest do not want to engage in OWNERSHIP. Someone else, best of all, directly Putin, MUST.

                  And what does Putin have to do with it? It seems to me that Putin and the Security Council are fulfilling their function to the best of their ability - strengthens the Army and Navy, security, foreign policy and the prestige of the state, and he succeeds. But the Government of the Russian Federation should, as I see it, deal with the internal problems of the economy, but it has long been laid big and thick on the "should". Type will resolve itself, the market will judge everything. If so, to hell with us in general the Government, only additional costs.
                  And to be honest about Putin, there is one saying: "If the leader works for everyone himself, he’s a worthless leader, because he cannot organize the process." What kind of fucking (stage) is his May decrees from 2012? How much did they complete? And his noble: “We don’t let our own in” and “we don’t change horses at the crossing”, they will bring him to the zugunder. They will substitute their own. They already substitute it with their "impotence" of action. And the people with us simple good quickly forget. for that negativity remembers for a long time. How many such examples in our history.
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                    And what does Putin have to do with it?

                    Have you read the comment? Or are you only responding to your last name?
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                Or maybe get it yourself?
        2. Ivan Ivanovich 9 November 2015 09: 22 New
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          yes do not care ...
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          otherwise everything will go into poverty

          And what, before that, they skated like cheese in butter ????
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            Dear SSI, how do you feel about this “news”: PJSC United Aircraft Building Corporation and PJSC Tupolev signed a contract in accordance with the terms of which Kazan Aviation Production Association named after S.P. Until the end of 2017, Gorbunova will manufacture and supply two Tu-214 aircraft to an unnamed state customer in the modification of an air control center with a special airborne communications center. The contract value amounted to more than 5.6 billion rubles.
            1. FID
              FID 10 November 2015 08: 54 New
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              Dear SSI, how do you feel about this "news"

              As usual ... There are many such people in the Arctic Ocean, two more cars will be added, it’s bad that the "citizens" do not buy them ...
        4. Vadim237 9 November 2015 09: 42 New
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          Do not worry, do not slide.
        5. Streich 9 November 2015 09: 53 New
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          Hiccups while Europe. This is a fact I personally see. And hiccups quality.
        6. crumb 9 November 2015 09: 58 New
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          Well, hiccup my friend hiccup!
        7. max702 9 November 2015 10: 22 New
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          the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty

          The answer is ..
        8. Archon 9 November 2015 10: 26 New
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          Well, why immediately into poverty? only foreign items and products are more expensive for us. It is just necessary to organize production on its territory. For example, do you want to sell smartphones and laptops in Russia? -Gather them in the territory of the Russian Federation. After all, cars are already being assembled and there are no special problems. The same is with clothes - otherwise they bring clothes made to us not only in China, but even in You are!

          By the way, Russian smartphones have long existed and this is not a yotophone, but Highscreen and Dexp, for example. At first they simply sold purely Chinese phones under their brand, and now they themselves are developing the design, device and software of smartphones that they assemble in Chinese factories in the same way as all other companies, including iPhones.
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        10. VeteranS 9 November 2015 10: 37 New
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          In 1941, on October 30, when the Nazis were only 27 km from Moscow, the first panic-mongers and dishonest officials ran from the capital ... Result, see May 9, 1945! It is impossible to defeat Russia by external force, but we cannot allow the 5th column to undermine the power of the state from the inside ..
        11. sergeant1986 9 November 2015 10: 44 New
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          If you bend down too much, you can ...
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        13. Amulet 9 November 2015 11: 44 New
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          Maybe you just need to work?
          1. Yuyuka 10 November 2015 23: 04 New
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            ik! Susie! the question is where and by whom, and for how much ?? in my opinion it is necessary to work more completely different, with the head, and not the point of joining the legs and back, coming up with new taxes and tariffs, increasing fines ... did not pay attention to how much the market sold for magnets and for what? and how much comes for them? This is an indicator of what - that no one wants to work ??
        14. spiriolla-45 9 November 2015 12: 25 New
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          You do not need to look for anything, but you need to change the government and domestic policy. Changes in foreign policy will be leveled, while maintaining the same course in the internal affairs of the state.
          1. Sega66 9 November 2015 15: 46 New
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            Candidates for a new government in the studio! And we will discuss here ...
            1. Xsanchez 9 November 2015 20: 50 New
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              Not only candidates are needed, we need a program.
          2. Prophetic 9 November 2015 18: 59 New
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            And how, my friend, are you going to change them? Is it not the Maidan?
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            Changes in foreign policy will be leveled

            Who was killed?
        15. kotvov 9 November 2015 13: 02 New
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          need to hiccup compromises ,,
          but someone does not give you, search and find, Nemtsov’s place is free.
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        16. volot-voin 9 November 2015 13: 34 New
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          the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty

          Rather, they opened their eyes to reality. They made it necessary to produce everything ourselves. And you thought foreign help us?
        17. SIMM 9 November 2015 14: 07 New
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          Not everything is measured by the degree of fullness of the abdomen
        18. gav6757 9 November 2015 14: 41 New
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          The fact that the economy was fucked up is YES!
          But to compromise, what is it?
          Not enough money?
          So let them give up the dollar, why do we need it? They will print the number of rubles equal to the total income of the country, etc. In general, the concept of Stalin.
          Nationalization of natural reserves is also needed! Not good for the people's good, according to different alligarchs to tear.
          In general, we want to live well, we need to remove from the economy of liberalists and shitMok-tat!
          1. Third kalach 10 November 2015 09: 54 New
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            "We also need nationalization of natural reserves! It’s not a good thing to have a national good, to tear it over different alligarchs." So at us everything is already nationalized ...
        19. Ivan Ivanych 9 November 2015 17: 52 New
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          "hiccups compromises" - for Monday this is normal)))
        20. Nick 9 November 2015 19: 18 New
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          the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty
          negative
          I read your comment and immediately remembered the character from A. Gaidar's novel "Military Secret" Malchish Pokhish. Remember that? The one who sold himself to a bourgeoisie for a basket of cookies and a barrel of jam ... hi
        21. the most important 9 November 2015 19: 28 New
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          the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty

          The enemy is not so terrible as we ourselves are terrible !!! In our economy, unfortunately, we have blasted ourselves ...
        22. samuil60 9 November 2015 23: 06 New
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          I already dried a bag of three crackers, and my pants were wet. I don’t sleep at night, I’m thinking everything: well, how suddenly we will slide into poverty! And the heart skips a beat ...
        23. Aksakal_07 10 November 2015 12: 22 New
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          And you are a beggar. Beggar in spirit. We are the descendants of those who did not seek compromise with the Nazis, Napoleons and other figures who tried to push Russia.
        24. holding 10 November 2015 14: 16 New
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          Right now, your fellow countryman will be corrected in the "rank" for such opinions ...
          But from me +.
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          After the horror of the 90s, people are unlikely to feel any sanctions.
        26. Rimlianin 10 November 2015 18: 19 New
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          In our economy, it was not the Americans and Europeans who were fucking, but their own government, which was recruited from the associates of the 90s reform economists. And it acts solely in the interests of big business, acting out on a simple population.
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          Already rolled down, s.p. teachers were cut by 35-40%
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            CRASH  Today, 20:30 ↑

            Already rolled down, s.p. teachers were cut by 35-40%

            Are you a teacher? Or are you the daughter of a Crimean officer? fool stop
        28. boris-1230 10 November 2015 21: 07 New
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          otherwise everything will go into poverty

          We will not be hungry, we will live without parmesan and jamon. The main thing is not to become impoverished!hi
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          Until recently, there were some compromises, even surrender, judging by how they praised us ... Maybe enough already ?!
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          What are you talking about!
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          Can we come to the consensus with a bald consensus? Yes, they wanted to spit on everyone and do not respect anything but power, it’s better to feed your army than someone else’s. soldier
      2. Poppy 9 November 2015 11: 32 New
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        their budget mainly goes to maintaining bases around the world (and, of course, to theft), a little remains for new weapons
      3. Dilshat 9 November 2015 18: 54 New
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        And so far we can not oppose anything against the umbrella in the form of a fully liberal anti-people government.
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        Quote: crazyrom
        Oh how it turns out!

        Yes, although we do not know all the details, that is, “throwing bonnets into the air” and indulging in excessive skepticism is not right, it is quite obvious that the development of electronic suppression means has reached new frontiers.
        Well, the famous Aegis has 200-300 goals, and if there are them, including false ones, 2000-3000, will the computers of this very Aegis hang?
        The conclusion is clear without pictures: our military needs to be able to use weapons and manage troops both "network-centrically" and in a time-tested "manual" mode.
        That is, to resign paper cards, PAB-2, Andrianov’s compass, Morse code, TA-57, adjustment of fire in target figures, shooting with a scale, thousandth formula, signal flags, the principle of “do as I do!” and much more early ...
        And if ours in Syria really blew up such an "electronic bubble" then this is just great! good
    2. Kostyar 9 November 2015 09: 12 New
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      the tears of NATO general Philip Breedlove

      Russia is not Libya for you, “Butting” with Us is not for you to draw letters on the fences !!!
    3. ArhipenkoAndrey 9 November 2015 09: 43 New
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      Gonokoksky justifies his surname, spoils everything, both his own and others, an amazing talent.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2015 06: 14 New
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    I’m wondering what the "puppies" say about this.

    and me Seryoga, no ... hi
    1. noWAR 9 November 2015 06: 34 New
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      Quote: Andrew Y.
      Quote: svp67
      I’m wondering what the "puppies" say about this.

      and me Seryoga, no ... hi
    2. igor.borov775 9 November 2015 07: 44 New
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      I don’t either. Advocacy should be dealt with in other places, but here it seemed to be a less serious review, but it turns into a simple talking room which is not measured now on TV.
  3. knyazru 9 November 2015 06: 42 New
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    in terms of our invasion ...

    Intrusions? And where did we invade?
  4. 33 Watcher 9 November 2015 10: 12 New
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    They won’t say anything. Because they will not be told anything about it.
  5. Sasha 19871987 9 November 2015 10: 32 New
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    very pleased with our electronics))) there is nothing much to comment on)))
  6. gridasov 9 November 2015 12: 01 New
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    There is a rule: "If the enemy is stronger than you, then avoid war, if equal, then control the balance of power, if weaker than you, destroy." Within the framework of those events that exist, it is necessary to clearly understand that there is a struggle for the space of future existence and if the enemy is stronger than you, he will not regret it. New technologies are condensing and narrowing our living space on the Earth. Whoever does not understand this has already lost.
  • Alex_Rarog 9 November 2015 06: 12 New
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    They survived, but were not ready ...
  • theadenter 9 November 2015 06: 40 New
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    Yes, this is their favorite thing - to speak in riddles and omissions.
  • igor.borov775 9 November 2015 07: 40 New
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    Hi!! Something the site has recently ceased to like. It is turning into ordinary propaganda. Inflated an electronic bubble over the Mediterranean Sea. Here it is. Any inhabitant will be frightened and the deputies will urgently demand a revision of the country's budget. A terrible enemy at the gates of Europe. This news is reported not just by an official but by a general. Learn propaganda throws as the brave general demonstrated it. The Russians dragged the space defense. dragged. Mediterranean Sea in the bubble. Poor Europeans. It turns out that in the Middle East, Syrian opposition (the Free Syrian Army) fight not against Assad, they are opposed to treacherous Russians. Yes, I did not expect to meet such material here. Accordingly, the attitude to this reprint is sharply negative.
    1. atalef 9 November 2015 07: 48 New
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      Quote: igor.borov775
      . Inflated an electronic bubble over the Mediterranean Sea. Here it is.

      The article (more precisely, some kind of incomprehensible stub) - resembles the OBS, in my opinion the only thing that pouted is the bladder in the author’s head.
      .
      Why release so base things. Of course - this is another opportunity for the idiots - to calm down (but this good is enough).
      Interestingly who advises the technical side of the admission of articles on HE.
      Not a minus to the author - there are thousands of such authors on the network.
      To the consultant - minus. hi
      1. retardu 9 November 2015 08: 05 New
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        I thought to read it, but then DONALD KUK cut his eye, immediately put a minus.
        There is still a sect of witnesses of the dismissal of sailors from Cook
      2. andj61 9 November 2015 08: 50 New
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        Quote: atalef
        Not a minus to the author - there are thousands of such authors on the network.
        To the consultant - minus.

        Well, we have one consultant at VO - Oleg Sokolov! Is it a minus? what
        Hello Alexander! bully hi
        1. Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2015 09: 59 New
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          Quote: andj61
          Quote: atalef
          Not a minus to the author - there are thousands of such authors on the network.
          To the consultant - minus.

          Well, we have one consultant at VO - Oleg Sokolov! Is it a minus? what
          Hello Alexander! bully hi

          clearly pinned! yes
      3. Old
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        Yes, they play out. I already do not go to the Annunews. Desire is repelled by just such low-grade material. And here I already notice more and more often that I no longer want to read further headings.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2015 11: 42 New
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          Quote: Old
          And here I already notice more and more often that I no longer want to read further headings.

          why register? to report this?
          1. severniy 9 November 2015 12: 12 New
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            Quote: Old
            Yes, they play out. I already do not go to the Annunews. Desire is repelled by just such low-grade material. And here I already notice more and more often that I no longer want to read further headings.

            Maybe you can hang out with the chess players in the park ... With our ENTILEKTs we will not be a company to you ...
            The only thing, I think the editors of Vaud, really will finish the game! How are they without you here .... recourse
            1. Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2015 12: 21 New
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              [quote] [quote = severniy] How are they without you here ..[/ quote] how how ... the site rating will fall ... crying
      4. 0255 9 November 2015 10: 02 New
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        Quote: atalef
        The article (more precisely, some kind of incomprehensible stub) - resembles the OBS, in my opinion the only thing that pouted is the bladder in the author’s head.
        .
        Why release so base things. Of course - this is another opportunity for the idiots - to calm down (but this good is enough).
        Interestingly who advises the technical side of the admission of articles on HE.
        Not a minus to the author - there are thousands of such authors on the network.
        To the consultant - minus. hi

        Oh, how about that? You do not admit that the goy Russian systems of electronic warfare suppress the kosher the best in the world electronics of your beloved USA? laughing
        1. Turkir 9 November 2015 13: 39 New
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          The full version of the article is about Donald Cook
          It sounds too strong even in poor translation -
          US destroyer Donald Cook, equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10, 2014. The goal was to demonstrate strength and intimidation in connection with Russia's position in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters contradicts the Montreux Convention on the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea on warships of countries not washed by this sea. In response, Russia introduced an unarmed Su 24 bomber to fly around an American destroyer. Nevertheless, experts say that this aircraft is equipped with the latest Russian electronic weapons complex. According to this version, Aegis noticed from afar an approaching aircraft, and an alarm sounded. Everything went fine, and American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. But suddenly all the screens went blank. Aegis doesn't work anymore, and missiles cannot get target information. Meanwhile, the Su-24 flew over the destroyer deck, made a U-turn and simulated a missile strike at a target. Then it turned out, and repeated the maneuver. And he did so 12 times.

          And he did so .. 12 times ..
          Oh, I can’t ... laughing
          1. severniy 9 November 2015 17: 07 New
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            A flyer on a hike ...
            And finally I think the guy was at least awarded .... What nerves you need to have ....
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        Quote: atalef
        The article (more precisely, some kind of incomprehensible stub) - resembles the OBS, in my opinion the only thing that pouted is the bladder in the author’s head.


        Quote: igor.borov775
        . Turns into ordinary propaganda. Inflated an electronic bubble over the Mediterranean Sea.

        ... gentlemen! hey gentlemen ...
        The material is imported! Toko is our translation!
        Whoever doesn’t like it, read the original - http://osnetdaily.com/2015/10/russian-jamming-system-blocks-all-nato-electronics

        -inside-bubble-600-km-in-diameter-over-syria /

        And for those who are dense in the topic, they can read and compare here -
        E-war - myths and truth
        Source: http://politikus.ru/army/62333-elektronnaya-voyna-mify-i-pravda.html
        Politikus.ru

        It may of course be that NATO mimosas fight a bad guy ... laughing
        But, there is a fact - a fact: no one else is allowed to invade where WE BASED!
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  • Good me 9 November 2015 07: 55 New
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    For you, the apostates of the vile, this is a “bubble”, for our army, for all who are fighting righteously, this is a HEAVENLY COVER ...
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      As you can see, it’s nice how, with all the private people, a muzzle and a ball!
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      For you, the apostates of the vile, this is a “bubble”, for our army, for all who are fighting righteously, this is a HEAVENLY COVER ...

      Beautiful! good hi
  • Alexey-74 9 November 2015 08: 53 New
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    they’re afraid that the “bubble” would not spread to the whole Mediterranean ????
    1. dorz 9 November 2015 09: 09 New
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      We need to send cookies to NATO generals to calm down.
      1. Nyrobsky 9 November 2015 10: 28 New
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        We need to send cookies to NATO generals to calm down.

        They’ll manage without cookies.
        Fir cones to them - let them bite yes
  • Spnsr 9 November 2015 10: 36 New
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    Quote: Andrew Y.
    General Philip Breedlove describes how "Russian bubble" A2 / AD (anti-access / restricted area) in Syria,
    you yourself are a "bubble" Mr. Breedlove! and your country is the Bubble! wassat for us, this is a controlled space. here and survived to the wars of the future, science fiction in life.

    I’m afraid to repeat myself, but “in the old, old-fashioned way in direct and immediate contact ...” wink
  • knn54 9 November 2015 11: 31 New
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    You can’t fly, crawl.
  • dauria 9 November 2015 12: 13 New
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    here and survived the wars of the future, science fiction in life
    wassat

    Yes, schA still gravity as we cancel on .... laughing
    designed to blind radars, sonars and other detection systems, in order to protect aircraft, helicopters, UAVs, ground and naval forces against air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles and other defensive systems in a radius of several hundred kilometers.


    Is there really no engineers left on the site to neighing?
  • Juborg 9 November 2015 12: 30 New
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    Paraphrasing of the same articles, with unchanged 600 kilometers, the UN and Churkin. Enough already. It is necessary to deal with the analysis of situations, and not what this article rephrases.
  • Yars 9 November 2015 16: 41 New
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    General Philip Breedlove describes how "Russian bubble" A2 / AD (anti-access / restricted area) in Syria,
    you yourself are a "bubble" Mr. Breedlove! and your country is the Bubble! wassat for us, this is a controlled space. here and survived to the wars of the future, science fiction in life.

    and some screamed "Putin absolutely", but it turns out that no, and the "bear iPhone" as you can see, pretty much allocates money for such developments! So hare some chewing snot!
  • Xsanchez 9 November 2015 19: 14 New
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    EW systems should not be praised, because in addition to high-tech weapons with on-board electronics, there are conventional (obsolete) types of weapons that can also be fought with. NATO's problem is that they almost never use outdated weapons. Pontoons interfere, literally.
  • nika407 9 November 2015 20: 15 New
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    NATO is blinded in a bubble, and ours fly))))
  • Rav075 9 November 2015 05: 55 New
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    Blind, deaf and dumb NATO members! It seems from this that their diarrheal disease began. wassat
    1. Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2015 06: 16 New
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      Quote: Rav075
      diarrheal disease has begun.

      nonsense ... they will insert leather chopiks to each other, they can easily ... wassat
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        NATO: A giant radio-electronic bubble in Syria does not allow us to fly
        Little such a trifle, but how nice! soldier
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    it only remains to blow up civilian aircraft! land rest in peace with innocent victims.
    1. subbtin.725 9 November 2015 06: 57 New
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      Judging by their actions, they are feverishly looking for common ground, but they are afraid that the sharp transition from confrontation to cooperation will be taken for surrender. Obama is, an aspen stake into a political career.

      Apparently - this is the key phrase. Anglo-Saxons want to turn on the back, roll away, so to speak, but don’t know how to do so in order to incur minimal reputation (they are "hegemons") losses. And what an explosion on their conscience, so the entire sane population has already guessed. The vile revenge of "torn to shreds" of Russia, for its inflexibility and true sovereign.
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  • Barboskin 9 November 2015 06: 08 New
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    Just some hooligans, international! lol
    1. iliitchitch 9 November 2015 06: 36 New
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      Yes, not just bullies! This nightmare of Putin is not something that stealing does not give any development - it does not allow close. That bubble man.
  • Mikhail m 9 November 2015 06: 13 New
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    They have not yet seen in action our most secret weapon - the spring from the Belarus tractor.
    1. Gloomy 9 November 2015 11: 16 New
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      Moderator, please delete the post about the mention of secret weapons. laughing
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        Quote: Michael m
        They have not yet seen in action our most secret weapon - the spring from the Belarus tractor.

        And I thought the father is a backup trump card .....
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    dsi 9 November 2015 06: 16 New
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    They say that now there is no way to suppress it.

    And how then ours fly there, these generals have not yet thought ...
  • Cosmos1987 9 November 2015 06: 18 New
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    satellite interference is detected
    what nonsense ??? how can you prevent visual exploration of the satellite by radio-electronic interference, well, if only by influencing the satellite itself, and this is another war. This also includes
    designed to dazzle radars, sonar
    1. SPACE 9 November 2015 06: 37 New
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      Quote: Cosmos1987
      what nonsense ??? how can you prevent visual exploration of the satellite by radio-electronic interference, well, if only by influencing the satellite itself, and this is another war.

      Once he was driving a car and witnessed a strange event on the highway, people in uniform appreciated the place and forced everyone to go around the area. I decided to shoot this event on video, but neither HTC nor iPhone came out of this and even the Canon camera could not focus, and after a couple of kilometers they started working again. Here is such nonsense.
      1. Cosmos1987 9 November 2015 06: 56 New
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        I think having an iPhone and a Canon camera, your car is definitely not cheap, respectively, with an on-board computer, which, like the electronics in your hands, should have been buggy, but this did not happen. And one more thing, for example, you were in the radius of the action of some kind of radiation, as I mentioned above, the satellite could not be subjected to this, otherwise this is another war ....
        1. PSih2097 9 November 2015 08: 26 New
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          the satellite could not be subjected to this, otherwise this is another war ....

          Wait all the photographic equipment on electronics, there would be a simple soap dish on the film, there wouldn’t be such ... IMHO

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            Zenit is a champion!
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          I think having an iPhone and a Canon camera, your car is definitely not cheap



          Um ... a Chinese iPhone is inexpensive, but Canon can be different ... Here, I have, for 3,5 thousand, I’m taking pictures of my granddaughter ...
      2. demo 9 November 2015 07: 03 New
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        UFO how to drink to give! UFO!
        1. Spnsr 9 November 2015 11: 18 New
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          Quote: demo
          UFO how to drink to give! UFO!

          I also thought the plot from the movie War of the Worlds
        2. Kite 9 November 2015 12: 27 New
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          how to give drink! UFO!

          Now we need to write RNLO.
      3. Wedmak 9 November 2015 07: 14 New
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        but neither HTC nor iPhone and even a Canon camera could not focus with this.

        I wonder why? It actually uses focusing in a visual image, more precisely along the boundaries of small objects that have clear separation of light and shadow. Called contrast autofocus. There is also phase autofocus, the same garbage only in profile. In general, so that your systems cannot focus, either the object should be blurred in the optical range (so that even our vision will go crazy), or something should affect the matrices of photographic equipment, such as lasers, masers, and others. But rather, all at the same time, because Most good photo equipment has several focusing systems that complement each other.
        It seems to me that your story is a bike.
        1. SPACE 9 November 2015 07: 44 New
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          It seems to me that your story is a bike.

          This is 100% fact and we were his witnesses. Visually observed events were clear, but the equipment on all three devices showed blurry outlines. Actually, the first time I took off, I decided that the equipment was junking on one of the phones, which is why I made an attempt to remove it from another and then I was not too lazy to pull out the camera.
          1. Wedmak 9 November 2015 07: 53 New
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            but the equipment on all three devices showed blurry outlines.

            I will not argue. But of course, “hindsight” is all strong: you had to try to focus manually.
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      When I went through urgent in KDVO it is in the distant 88-90s. Once an officer told us that they had a meeting at headquarters. Some specialists came from Moscow, and showed a NATO satellite map. There are a number of buildings on the shore with giant white balls (I myself watched them for several tens of kilometers), but they were not on the NATO map, there was a lake in general. I still think that this is a "bike" (although the officer is worthy of trust), but it is said on the basis of other physical principles. But who knows ...
    3. bugaev2005 9 November 2015 07: 55 New
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      Very simple. Modern cameras are a bunch of electronic devices (transistors, diodes, etc.), and with the help of the induced electromagnetic field, it is very easy to make the pn-junctions stop working in the right mode ... here you have the cameras fail .. A simple optical camera will certainly work, but again, its control system may be blocked. That's it, the satellite is going blind.
      1. Corsair 9 November 2015 10: 35 New
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        Very simple. Modern cameras are a bunch of electronic devices (transistors, diodes, etc.), and with the help of the induced electromagnetic field, it is very easy to make the pn-junctions stop working in the right mode ... here you have the cameras fail .. A simple optical camera will certainly work, but again, its control system may be blocked. That's it, the satellite is going blind.

        laughing it’s a bit wrong, it’s not the satellite that blinds, but the device receiving / requesting on the ground, reconnaissance satellites and geosatellites fly at such altitudes that the ground-based electronic warfare systems will not finish, and then either press the electronic warfare on satellites from closely located orbits (if any ), or not at all recourse
        1. Spnsr 9 November 2015 11: 35 New
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          Quote: Corsair
          Quote: bugaev2005
          Very simple. Modern cameras are a bunch of electronic devices (transistors, diodes, etc.), and with the help of the induced electromagnetic field, it is very easy to make the pn-junctions stop working in the right mode ... here you have the cameras fail .. A simple optical camera will certainly work, but again, its control system may be blocked. That's it, the satellite is going blind.

          laughing it’s a bit wrong, it’s not the satellite that blinds, but the device receiving / requesting on the ground, reconnaissance satellites and geosatellites fly at such altitudes that the ground-based electronic warfare systems will not finish, and then either press the electronic warfare on satellites from closely located orbits (if any ), or not at all recourse

          or add one more wavelength to the radiated objects, or lengthen them ... wink
      2. opus 9 November 2015 11: 52 New
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        and with the help of the induced electromagnetic field, it is very easy to make the pn junctions stop working in the desired mode

        ?Than?
        1.Electrons, gamma and X-ray radiation
        (the charge begins to gradually accumulate in the gate dielectric of the transistors, and accordingly the parameters of the transistors begin to slowly change - the threshold voltage of the transistors and the leakage current, RI and GI make the pn junctions inside the microcircuit work like small "solar panels")
        Commercial withstand up to 5000 rad (a person may stop working already after 500-1000 glad).
        on modern stable technical processes (65nm and less) routine chips are obtained that can withstand the radiation dose in 1mln
        2.Protons, alpha particles and high-energy ions
        (single-event upset, SEU; at worst, cause a thyristor latch (single-event latchup, SEL).
        Up to 300-500km of orbit on the earth can be obtained with a nuclear explosion (or near), or inside RITEK
        3. Neutrons + 10B
        It has long been used for the production of all microcircuits only the 11B isotope. Now neutrons pass through the microcircuit almost unhindered without causing errors ..
        4.EMY, yes
        -internal spurious resonances, an increase in the number of possible types of malfunctions in the functioning of the system and a decrease in the threshold levels of their occurrence, the effect of “snapping”, etc.
        but it is important there that the maximum amplitude of the detected pickup is reached with the orientation of the terminals of the IC along the vector of the electric field, and the minimum with orthogonal orientation.
        What is very "difficult" to accomplish holding the Iphone in your hand, trying to photograph something, not knowing the coordinates of the source of interference and its parameters (or vice versa to create interference on the phone)

        the location of the IC relative to the polarization of microwave radiation


        -failures begin under the action impulse Microwave irradiation (1 ... 10 GHz) with a power flux density greater than 100 μW / cm2 (E> 20 V / m).
        And this is VERY MUCH
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          Quote: opus
          Quote: bugaev2005
          and with the help of the induced electromagnetic field, it is very easy to make the pn junctions stop working in the desired mode

          ?Than?
          1.Electrons, gamma and X-ray radiation
          (the charge begins to gradually accumulate in the gate dielectric of the transistors, and accordingly the parameters of the transistors begin to slowly change - the threshold voltage of the transistors and the leakage current, RI and GI make the pn junctions inside the microcircuit work like small "solar panels")
          Commercial withstand up to 5000 rad (a person may stop working already after 500-1000 glad).
          on modern stable technical processes (65nm and less) routine chips are obtained that can withstand the radiation dose in 1mln
          2.Protons, alpha particles and high-energy ions
          (single-event upset, SEU; at worst, cause a thyristor latch (single-event latchup, SEL).
          Up to 300-500km of orbit on the earth can be obtained with a nuclear explosion (or near), or inside RITEK
          3. Neutrons + 10B
          It has long been used for the production of all microcircuits only the 11B isotope. Now neutrons pass through the microcircuit almost unhindered without causing errors ..
          4.EMY, yes
          -internal spurious resonances, an increase in the number of possible types of malfunctions in the functioning of the system and a decrease in the threshold levels of their occurrence, the effect of “snapping”, etc.
          but it is important there that the maximum amplitude of the detected pickup is reached with the orientation of the terminals of the IC along the vector of the electric field, and the minimum with orthogonal orientation.
          What is very "difficult" to accomplish holding the Iphone in your hand, trying to photograph something, not knowing the coordinates of the source of interference and its parameters (or vice versa to create interference on the phone)

          the location of the IC relative to the polarization of microwave radiation


          -failures begin under the action impulse Microwave irradiation (1 ... 10 GHz) with a power flux density greater than 100 μW / cm2 (E> 20 V / m).
          And this is VERY MUCH

          something is too smart, just turn on the ir emitter and the optics will go blind
          example blinding pilots of airplanes ik pointers
          1. Good me 9 November 2015 13: 20 New
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            example blinding pilots of airplanes ik pointers


            Well, damn it, "flashed" ... At the time of Shnobelevka, to give out, for such a "discovery" ...

            I propose to experiment with the remote control from the TV, trying to dazzle them with someone from home yes

            PS: Yes, optoelectronics "fades" from NOT-visible IR radiation, but not such an "optical device" as the human eye, which is INVISIBLE, DOES NOT SEE.
            1. Spnsr 9 November 2015 14: 04 New
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              PS: Yes, optoelectronics "fades" from an UNVISIBLE IR radiation,

              what else to add? there is enough glare on the optics so that the eye does not see anything behind it
              1. Good me 9 November 2015 14: 44 New
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                Quote: SpnSr
                Quote: Good I
                PS: Yes, optoelectronics "fades" from an UNVISIBLE IR radiation,

                what else to add? there is enough glare on the optics so that the eye does not see anything behind it



                Do you have civilian pilots whom hooligans periodically try to dazzle with LASER (not "IK", as you "issued" ...) INSTRUCTIONS, fly in optoelectronic devices (as a variant of NVD)? ? ? belay
                1. Spnsr 9 November 2015 15: 25 New
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                  Quote: Good I
                  Do you have, that, civil aviation pilots whom hooligans periodically try to blind with LASER (not "IK", as you "issued" ...) INSTRUCTIONS, fly in optoelectronic devices (as a variant of NVD)? ?

                  squealing a little boy, but does not change the essence of the matter, if only the wavelength of the necessary radiation! and so, of course not, but the glare on the glass is enough to get in the way! in addition, on the ground it can be a point that scatters into a larger spot at a distance, and on the thing that you cited as an example, there is also an optics that goes blind !!!
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              You’ll laugh, but the TV is not controlled by the IR remote control when the "energy-saving" light from China is on. I’m not saying that all the models, but there is a precedent, because of this I almost threw the remote control away until I understood the reason for the failure ... The lamp illuminated the input IR receiver
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                Quote: HAM
                You’ll laugh, but the TV is not controlled by the IR remote control when the "energy-saving" light from China is on. I’m not saying that all the models, but there is a precedent, because of this I almost threw the remote control away until I understood the reason for the failure ... The lamp illuminated the input IR receiver


                Here, apparently, the problem is the low noise immunity of the control channel, namely the receiver of infrared radiation of the TV ...
          2. opus 9 November 2015 13: 24 New
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            something is too smart, just turn on the ir emitter and the optics will go blind

            actually speech

            Quote: SPACE
            I decided to shoot this event on video, but neither HTC nor iPhone nor even a Canon camera came out of this could not focus, and after a couple of kilometers they earned again.


            (no one l / pointer in the lens "Cosmos" did not shine)

            on the electronic base (mobile phone) you can shine with IR radiation until blue, well, or until the hand holding the phone burns

            Optics of the mobile phone will be nothing

            2mW laser, red, made in China. Regular laser pointer, sold in different stores. It feeds on three 1,5 V tablet batteries.
            The working wavelength of the semiconductor laser LED is 630-680 nm. Such a product with a power of 2 mW is almost absolutely safe. Even if they shine right in the eye. The retina will not burn out, but only there will be temporary blindness from about an hour to a day.
            1. Spnsr 9 November 2015 19: 34 New
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              Quote: opus
              2mW laser, red, made in China. Regular laser pointer, sold in different stores. It feeds on three 1,5 V tablet batteries.
              The working wavelength of the semiconductor laser LED is 630-680 nm. Such a product with a power of 2 mW is almost absolutely safe. Even if they shine right in the eye. The retina will not burn out, but only there will be temporary blindness from about an hour to a day.

              creepy calling for ik! but in essence the difference in frequency and intensity,
              so what it is about!
              the satellite does not hang constantly in one place, and the radiation power for blinding is not needed much! it's about batteries !!! laughing
              relative to others, well there is radaraff - sanaraff
              the fact that we were shown a year ago mi8 equipped, if shown, it was already more likely squeezed!
              maybe it’s just when the planes fly out, the equipment turns on, everything goes blindly!
              Sanar type that are underwater! - Guys, you don’t know, but Russia is at war! I won’t go into the details of what I have to experience in the civilian world, but objectively, we are pulling equipment to our borders, they didn’t take into account that these SKs. they’ve touched the citizens of Kazakhstan, they dropped it in a gip
              if at least one fluffy eared now says that it’s like, well, if you dropped it, then um! I’ll tell you right away that this is pin.dos.tan, this is not their brainchild, namely their armed forces on the territory of Arabstan, and the relationship of arabstan with pin.das.tan is a couple like nata in guey.sayuz!
              and after that you want nonsense. lufff got into trouble!
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            Who wanted an engineer?
        2. Prophetic 9 November 2015 20: 08 New
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          Read. Giggled. Enchanting crap. It’s such a terrible science-like mixture that you’re even surprised at what finger you can suck out all this dregs from.
          on modern stable technical processes (65nm and less) routine chips are obtained that can withstand the radiation dose in 1mln
          And then we are tormented by the poor, but with him - routine. Who is it in our country such rivets routine? And so that the range was? Voronezh? Peter? Zelenograd? Who?! Why are electrons in the same group with gamma? What the hell? A completely different physics of interaction. What does "
          neutrons + 10В
          ? What is this new word in physics - the 11B isotope? Reminds "outsiders B" wink Why is it that the use of the mysterious isotope 11В leads to the fact that
          Now neutrons pass through the microcircuit almost unhindered without causing errors ..
          This is from what ..? What kind of nonsense? It is necessary to get drunk.
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            Quote: Prophetic
            that you even wonder from which finger you can suck all this dregs

            I don’t know whose fingers (or something else) you suck there, but no one is not

            Quote: Prophetic
            Who is it in our country such rivets routine? And so that the range was?

            1. Not "with us," the prophetic you ours, was written, but written
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            Quote: opus
            on modern persistent technical processes (65nm or less)

            -Discussed apparatus (
            Quote: SPACE
            nor HTC neither iPhone nor even a Canon camera couldn’t focus,
            )
            obviously not domestic , "dumb you are ours"
            2. Zelenograd Mikron, 2014 ... if you really want to
            Quote: Prophetic
            in our country



            Elbrus-4S


            Quote: Prophetic
            Why are electrons in the same group with gamma? What the hell?

            Radish horseradish is not sweeter.
            X-ray radiation (secondary) is obtained due to the collision of electrons with the device’s body. The electron will not pass further than the “body”.
            Alles Klar unsere DRi (Oy) "prophetic?
            Quote: Prophetic
            ? What is this new word in physics - the 11B isotope? Reminds "outsiders In

            For especially hit (head?)

            Quote: Prophetic
            It is necessary to get drunk.

            Do you feel and did not stop "You are ours rude"?

            Boron is used for alloying silicon and in the form of borosilicate glass to isolate metal layers. The problem is that natural boron is 20% boron-10, which reacts very well with neutrons with the release of alpha particles directly in the heart of the chip. This led to errors in the operation of microcircuits, especially memory.

            By the way, this property of boron is used for emergency shutdown of nuclear reactors - boric acid enriched in the 10B isotope is poured into it.

            Quote: opus
            for the production of all microchips only 11B isotope


            neutrons pass through the microcircuit almost unhindered without causing errors.

            Ku? Or else to chew?
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              It is also possible, as it is interesting.
    4. Locksmith 9 November 2015 08: 42 New
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      what nonsense ??? how to prevent visual exploration of the satellite by electronic interference,

      Satellites often make a radar map of the area and also the transmitting channel — it is also a radio, so it is jammed with a bang wink
  • Mera joota 9 November 2015 06: 18 New
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    Bullshit sucked from a finger (to say the least). In this hypothetical “bubble” for some reason, not only military aircraft, but also civilian ones fly, do they have different physical principles of radar?
    You should already be convinced of the frivolity of the article by reading the following lines:
    Its electronic countermeasure is designed to blind radar, sonar and other detection systems

    Well, let's suppose it is possible to interfere with a radar helicopter, but what does sonar have to do with it? Fart in the water or what? And how are the “other” detection systems interfered with? "Other" detection systems (besides radar) are optical detection systems, how are they interfered with? Suppose in the visible spectrum it is possible (hypothetically) to interfere by plunging all of Syria into smoke or fog, but in the IR range? Heat the atmosphere and the surface of the earth within a radius of 600 km. to one temperature so that no one stands out? But how then is UV radiation?

    Gentlemen, comrades, everyone who puts the pluses to this article and writes delicious reviews shows his prime illiteracy.
    1. Cosmos1987 9 November 2015 06: 25 New
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      Now, if everything is jammed, then the Russian technology should not work on the idea either, since it works on the same physical trailers as the foreign one, and MI-8 will take so much energy from where such equipment will work, and not easier would do it something stationary ?!
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        Quote: Cosmos1987
        Now, if everything is jammed, then the Russian technology should not work on the idea, since it works on the same physical trailers as the foreign one,

        You didn’t enter, Chubais tensed up and adjusted the “nishtyak” to the defense industry, all our equipment now works in the nano-micro-millimeter range. repeat
        1. severniy 9 November 2015 17: 24 New
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          Bullshit sucked from a finger (to say the least). In this hypothetical “bubble” for some reason, not only military aircraft, but also civilian ones fly, do they have different physical principles of radar?
          You should already be convinced of the frivolity of the article by reading the following lines:
          Its electronic countermeasure is designed to blind radar, sonar and other detection systems

          Well, let's suppose it is possible to interfere with a radar helicopter, but what does sonar have to do with it? Fart in the water or what? And how are the “other” detection systems interfered with? "Other" detection systems (besides radar) are optical detection systems, how are they interfered with? Suppose in the visible spectrum it is possible (hypothetically) to interfere by plunging all of Syria into smoke or fog, but in the IR range? Heat the atmosphere and the surface of the earth within a radius of 600 km. to one temperature so that no one stands out? But how then is UV radiation?

          Gentlemen, comrades, everyone who puts the pluses to this article and writes delicious reviews shows his prime illiteracy.

          The clumsy language of the article can be explained by a crooked translation, but on the topic ... Previously, people who were trying to fly were afraid and burned, however, it turned out to be possible without witchcraft, so not everything that we cannot understand is impossible in principle .....
      2. foxic 9 November 2015 07: 13 New
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        Or to make it something ship ... power will allow. And the impact is personal. The structure of their own and their own signals is known, the system does not respond to its signals with a burst of interference at certain frequencies, and its means operate without interference. And to jam all frequencies constantly is not enough strength.
      3. Cosmos1987 9 November 2015 10: 11 New
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        Gentlemen minus signers, argue your minus please, your opinion on this subject is very interesting.
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          Jamming only enemy technology. The built-in blocks in our equipment allow it to work as usual, as if there was no suppression. There is an analogy with encrypted data transmission. We perfectly see our broadcast, hear and read, and our opponent sees only a meaningless set of characters. In EW the same principle. I tell you, as a former military communications officer.
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          ... but on this and I want to say "DB"
      4. Prophetic 9 November 2015 20: 42 New
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        I don’t want to whitewash the article, but ... The whole range is not muffled, but the GPS window specifically. It is narrow. The general principle is that the noise power should be at least an order of magnitude greater than the signal coming from the satellite. A pretty weak signal, by the way. Moreover, the noise generator does not work stupidly at all 360 degrees, and a specific detected target is worked out. One product can work out at the same time ... many winked goals. And that’s all! And without a GPS amer’s technique cannot fully work. For example, tomahawks can only work clearly defined in space. And ours work for Glonas. Another range.
    2. pv1005 9 November 2015 06: 27 New
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      Well, what are you doing on them, on exceptional ones? What the OFFICE said about it, they bleat. fool And the people put the advantages of the article apparently for fear caught up by NATU, and not for physical fables.
    3. Just BB 9 November 2015 06: 35 New
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      Well, why immediately "Brad"?
      The system is standing and standing - it will be necessary - we turn it on!
      Until 1996, our REB squadron was stationed in Damascus. But “not allowing her to get sober” Bora, he was asked to return her home. Which was done.
      But she kept fear there .... good
      The adversary knows what to be afraid of.

      But you do not need to show your "trump cards" either - they know how to play poker (otherwise it will start now ... "I swam, I know!"
    4. BecmepH 9 November 2015 06: 41 New
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      And how are the “other” detection systems interfered with? "Other" detection systems (besides radar) are optical detection systems, how are they interfered with? Suppose in the visible spectrum it is possible (hypothetically) to interfere by plunging all of Syria into smoke or fog, but in the IR range? Heat the atmosphere and the surface of the earth within a radius of 600 km. to one temperature so that no one stands out? But how then is UV radiation?
      Maybe you are a specialist in electronic warfare, I don’t ... But why did you decide that our systems affect various kinds of radiation? And can it be that they act not on radiation, but on the equipment itself? I'm exaggerating, but maybe they suppress the operation of some sort of transistor or some kind of synchrophasotron? You said a lot of clever words, but only with your fingers said water was poured. It’s fantastic (in your opinion), but a particular person is crying, a representative of a particular state, and for us it’s a balm for the soul.
      1. Mera joota 9 November 2015 07: 05 New
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        Maybe you're special in electronic warfare, I don’t ...

        I just went through physics at school (Soviet, which is important).

        Quote: BecmepH
        But why did you decide that our systems affect various kinds of radiation?

        Well, probably because the article says:
        Its electronic countermeasure is designed to blind radar, sonar and other detection systems


        Quote: BecmepH
        And can it be that they act not on radiation, but on the equipment itself?

        Well yes, the almighty virus ...

        Quote: BecmepH
        I'm exaggerating, but maybe they suppress the operation of some sort of transistor or some kind of synchrophasotron?

        At a distance, it is possible to “suppress" only EM radiation, this requires a high radiation power, very high. But EM properties have a "bad" tendency to attenuation, and therefore "suppress" the equipment at a distance of not even 600 km, but at least 100 km. impossible. For this reason, EM ammunition does not have a future, because to disable equipment it is necessary to fire them directly near the object, and the incapacitation will be temporary, but to hell it is necessary if at the same distance the IF warhead will smash this equipment to shreds.
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        but a particular person is crying, a representative of a particular state, and to us this is a balm for the soul.

        And here are two explanations. Either this is a complete mess and the invention of a stupid journalist, or the general includes a fool in pursuit of certain mercantile interests.
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        and to us it is a balm for the soul.

        Like "ah, it’s not difficult to fool me ..."
      2. SPACE 9 November 2015 07: 31 New
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        Maybe you and a specialist in electronic warfare, I don’t ... But why did you decide that our systems affect various kinds of radiation?

        What is modern electronic warfare? This is a set of antenna emitters controlled by a computer with a set of proven algorithms for combat use. What do we know about radio waves? phenomena of interference and diffraction, what effect do waves of certain frequencies have on objects and materials, the interaction of several different frequencies and the directivity of radiation? A million possible consequences, from not significant to significant, but if someone has already penetrated these secrets?
        Z.Y. Once again, the Trident 2 rocket will take off, on which the distant Voronezh-M and Voronezh-DM radar focuses over the radio horizon and the gyroscopes of the rocket will begin to slow down ...))) And these are just flowers ...
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          A million possible consequences, from not significant to significant, but if someone has already penetrated these secrets?

          They can be recognized by foil caps.
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          Once again, Trident 2 rocket will take off, on which the separated radar Voronezh-M and Voronezh-DM focuses over the radio horizon, and the rocket's gyroscopes will start to slow down ... And these are just flowers ...

          Well, yes, HAARP is also a bastard.
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      Bullshit sucked from a finger

      I don’t even know what article to put + or -. On the one hand, they seemed to be frightened (or they gave up the view to increase military spending), on the other hand, delirium for tantrums. request
      Then he said correctly:
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      They have not yet seen in action our most secret weapon - the spring from the Belarus tractor.

      Let our tractors be afraid, because they can be dismantled and use top-secret weapons on new physical principles. laughing
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        I don’t even know what article to put + or -. On the one hand, they seemed to be frightened (or they gave up the view to increase military spending), on the other hand, delirium for tantrums. request

        For fear, a sachet was put, well, and + article, respectively.
    6. VeryBravePiggy 9 November 2015 06: 56 New
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      But D. Bush is able to use the disconnected binoculars. As they say, not only everyone knows how to do this, few can do it.
      If without jokes, such "good" news should be treated without hatred moods.
    7. foxic 9 November 2015 06: 57 New
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      I do not see delirium.
      I don’t see much difference between sonar and radar. In both cases, computer processing of the reflected signal is carried out. The propagation medium and type of emitter differ. The counteraction algorithm, than to "lock up" the computer, will be the same ....
      Satellites with optics fly very low 150-200 km maximum. The coverage area of ​​the dome is 600 km .... you can’t touch it only with your hands - someone else’s property .... but otherwise - without restrictions ... :)
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      2. Mera joota 9 November 2015 07: 11 New
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        I do not see delirium.

        But I do not see the arguments. What is the "counteraction algorithm"?
      3. Wedmak 9 November 2015 07: 21 New
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        I don’t see much difference between sonar and radar. In both cases, computer processing of the reflected signal is carried out. The propagation medium and type of emitter differ. The counteraction algorithm, than to "lock up" the computer, will be the same ....

        You do not see in vain. If the exposure algorithm is basically the same, then the phot effectors (signal emitters, antennas, etc.) are completely different. And the distribution speeds are different. Like power.
        Satellites with optics fly very low 150 -200 km maximum.

        Well, they fly, and work mainly in the visible and infrared spectrum. Something I doubt that we have EW stations that put interference in the visible spectrum at a distance of 300 km. First, how? Secondly, what? Thirdly, is it possible that besides this general, no one else noticed such interference?
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        I don’t see much difference between sonar and radar.
        You will scream, I will shine in your eyes with a flashlight. Strongly my flashlight Your voice will interrupt ????
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          You will scream, I will shine in your eyes with a flashlight. Strongly my flashlight Your voice will interrupt ????

          And if you shine with a certain frequency while changing in time and in different spectra according to a certain algorithm? We influence the vision, through the brain, the voice ...
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          2. Mera joota 9 November 2015 09: 14 New
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            We influence the vision, through the brain, the voice ...

            Well, yes, you can still emit gases, so that the eyes begin to watery ... Let's collect further ...
    8. dckx 9 November 2015 07: 03 New
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      Respected Mera joota the presence of questions to which you cannot find an explanation is not evidence of the absence of the described capabilities of electronic warfare. You know the algorithms of operation of control systems, detection or tracking of a target so thoroughly that you are absolutely sure that the article "Bullshit sucked from a finger". I do not ask you how close you are to the physics of the electronic warfare process ... Of course, the article has great exaggeration, but the work of the aerospace forces in Syria suggests that our Western "partners" cannot do us any harm (as they want it) - probably because there are forces that impede this process. With respect!!!
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        You can not find an explanation is not evidence of the lack of described capabilities of electronic warfare

        ALL electronic countermeasures systems (meaning all over the world) operate on the principle of distortion of the reflected EM signal. You can "find" the wave on which the enemy is working and "saddle" it or jam it over the entire range. The first option is preferable because it is less energy-intensive, for the second option you need more power.
        There is nothing more practical. It is impossible to interfere with visible light remotely without using aerosols / smoke, it is impossible to emit electromagnetic waves to interfere with acoustic systems because there is a different principle ...
        1. dckx 9 November 2015 07: 52 New
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          Theoretically, the UAV of the “partners”, through an optical television channel, has detected a target and accompanies it by highlighting it with a laser, and then what? Management and data exchange with UAVs is carried out on the basis of an optical-television principle? The same satellite exchanges data using the EM signal, do you know the working height of the Kraukha reliably?
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        Dear Mera Joota, the presence of questions that you cannot find an explanation is not proof of the absence of the described capabilities of electronic warfare

        And let's from the opposite.
        The Syrian army uses electronic means, the militants use ours use, plus UAVs with a clear video image, plus space imagery, plus outdated Syrian aircraft - all arbayten. Only NATO does not have Arbeiten - a paradox.
        They are afraid of our air defense and they are building a fool.
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        Quote: dckx
        Of course, the article has a strong exaggeration, but the work of the videoconferencing system in Syria suggests that our Western “partners” cannot harm us effectively (as they want it) - probably because there are forces that impede this process.

        Or maybe they can’t do it because they’re just afraid to get an answer?
        If there really was such a “bubble” with a diameter of 600 km, then civil services would have yelled for a long time - the airports of Antalya, Beirut, Israel, Amman, Damascus, etc. But none of this is even heard close!
        Or what - selective radiation is applied? Acts solely on the US coalition?
        The article, of course, warms the soul - bully - but it is absolutely not confirmed by anything, and it contradicts the physics of the process with certain nuances: colleagues have already noted this.
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          I have already commented below, but I repeat - "According to Fedor Dmitruk, general director of the Bryansk Electromechanical Plant, the tool (Krasuha - 4) allows you to detect an aircraft, make capture-tracking and, if necessary, interfere." Why did you decide that there is a global suppression of the specified area.
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      But, actually, optical (and other than purely radar) systems and devices do not consist of lenses alone, etc., there are electronics that control them, and nodes and blocks responsible for transferring data to where it should be , but they are also subject to the influence of interfering EM radiation. Of course, they are protected during manufacture, but it seems that ours have figured out how to “pierce” it.
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      2. Mera joota 9 November 2015 07: 34 New
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        there is electronics that controls them, and nodes and blocks responsible for transferring data to where it should be, but they are also subject to the influence of interfering EM radiation

        At what distance? A hundred meters? Maybe.
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        Of course, they defend themselves during manufacture, but it seems that ours have figured out how to “punch” it.

        A simple question, the control equipment of the electronic warfare complex located on the helicopter, the systems operating on the helicopter are not affected by this "superradiation"? Or is everything working on unearthly principles there?
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      Bullshit sucked from a finger (to say the least). In this hypothetical
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      Amazing reviews show your prime ignorance.

      Most likely in the article "freedom of translation" or incorrectly understood thoughts of the speaker. Most likely, we mean that we have a solid defense there with a radius of 600, created using C300 complexes and other means. From this we get the "dome / bubble". I would like to believe that we are able to "blur the eye" with the help of electronic warfare. Unless, of course, the NLoshniki helped us wassat
    11. Gani 9 November 2015 07: 37 New
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      Diameter 600km, => radius 300km - this is probably, in their opinion, a 100% safe distance from the C300 complex, but if you’re closer then your hands are shaking, missiles are not pointing, it gets cloudy in your eyes, it’s heating up in your pants. such a bubble
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      Gentlemen, comrades, everyone who puts the pluses to this article and writes delicious reviews shows his prime illiteracy.

      It is quite possible that they have a different level of awareness, all the satellites, no matter what kind of optical RADAR radios, have a radio channel on board to transmit the reconnaissance — they jam it actually. Sonars are not only for submariners, but also acoustic stations for something, for example, for anti-helicopter mines. wink
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      I read, I read, my nerves ran out of sonar. Are there many enemy submarines in the sands of Syria?
    14. Corsair 9 November 2015 11: 01 New
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      belay well, they didn’t write here that the pilots or missiles are completely blind, but if you shut down any connection, they specifically stall, the ZhPS doesn’t work, now they probably can’t fly stupidly on cards, you can launch missiles, only lighthouses are not caught, coconut doesn’t grow, cry god pray ...
      Surveillance without communication and a working radar is like looking at a black hole and flying nowhere, the plane flew into the zone and disappeared from the radars, are they alive or they are already dusting them with sand - is that a question? Usually, when an airplane disappears from the radar, a large-scale search is announced, and in this case even a search cannot be performed.
    15. Spnsr 9 November 2015 11: 39 New
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      But in the IR range? N

      on tanks put missile defense systems with IR guidance
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      shows his prime illiteracy.

      - why so sharply and categorically? Categorically judges you know who?
      Why did you decide that all the interference is put by the system from one box? Why fog all over Syria? Why emit false signals in the entire spectrum of electromagnetic waves? IR, UV, ..... then gamma, X-ray and high energy particle detector should be provided for communication between military objects and reconnaissance wink If all this fits, then a little remains - to learn to recognize objects by feeling and sniffing. lol
    17. Spnsr 9 November 2015 19: 44 New
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      what does sonar have to do with it? Fart in the water or what?

      not that word! laughing so lit up that not only listening is impossible! laughing
  • IGMIT 9 November 2015 06: 20 New
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    But how can NATO live and watch or listen?
  • pv1005 9 November 2015 06: 20 New
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    How do you command me to understand "Much attention is paid in the article to the crocodile tears of NATO general Philip Breedlove, who said that in addition to the Baltic states and the Black Sea, the Russians closed our access to the Mediterranean."? Something I did not hear about such closures? But it’s all the same nice, damn it, we haven’t done anything yet, and we have already caught up with fear.
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      we haven’t done anything yet, and we have already caught up with fear.

      You describe the behavior of a small child who jumped out from the door shouting "BU!" spreading his hands and rejoices as a mother comically waved her hands wailing, "Oh, I'm afraid, I'm afraid."
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        You describe the behavior of a small child who jumped out from the door shouting "BU!" spreading his hands and rejoices as a mother comically waved her hands wailing, "Oh, I'm afraid, I'm afraid."

        and who is mom here? laughing bridlaff chtoli?
        and who did "boo", because Russian in white says nothing was done! laughing
  • Alexander 3 9 November 2015 06: 23 New
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    Our war zone is a no-fly zone for NATO. Let them get used to it.
    1. EGOrkka 9 November 2015 06: 31 New
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      ... how to get used to it? ... without aviation ..... they don’t know anything ... wink
  • Strezhevchanin 9 November 2015 06: 30 New
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    Natasha complain, it’s just tin.
  • Koronik 9 November 2015 06: 35 New
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    Only in this way and not otherwise!
  • Loner_53 9 November 2015 06: 41 New
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    NATO: A giant radio-electronic bubble in Syria does not allow us to fly


    Joy and admiration and the cry of the soul GLORY TO RUSSIA!!! smile hi
  • Yak-3P 9 November 2015 06: 47 New
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    What are we arguing about? no one even knows the principles of the Krasukh there Avtobaz and the modern Russian electronic warfare .. mystery ... ours are there and the others are not there .. satellite optics there are no clouds, and everything else is radio + processor so in theory and we can extinguish the optics in the stratosphere to create a thread of the northern lights .. yes and it seems the Jews complained that they got their start
  • mamont5 9 November 2015 06: 49 New
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    Quote: svp67
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    Quote: Andrew Y.
    for us, this is a controlled space.

    I’m wondering what the “scammers” say about this, especially in terms of our invasion ...

    So there is the answer in the article:
    “Reader comments are about the same as Censor. We don’t believe all the enemies, we’ll destroy a simple rocket, the Kremlin’s propaganda, although there are common thoughts as America has come to the point where it is being persecuted everywhere.”
  • wanderer 9 November 2015 06: 53 New
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    Strange, it’s 60 kilometers from me to Latakia in a straight line, satellite TV is working, cellular communication is working, the Internet is also working, but the navigator in the car is working - a cool bubble.
    1. dckx 9 November 2015 07: 10 New
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      I quote: “According to Fedor Dmitruk, general director of the Bryansk Electromechanical Plant, the tool (Krasuha-4) allows you to detect an aircraft, capture-escort and, if necessary, interfere.” Why did you decide that there is a global suppression of the specified area. Only dangerous and interesting goals.
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      wanderer ..... Strange, from me to Latakia there are 60 kilometers in a straight line, satellite TV works, cellular communication works, the Internet also works, but the navigator in the car works — it's a cool bubble.


      Nothing strange, wanderer. You use receivers, and this “bubble” suppresses emitters, of course, not for civilian purposes. Although, if necessary, it will "drown out" these emitters.
      Only now the NATO called him a "bubble", out of place. A bubble is a ball that can burst.
      It is more likely that the NATO man himself launched a "bubble" from such news.
    3. Yurmix 9 November 2015 09: 05 New
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      I don’t see it strange that the “box” and the navigator are working. For military equipment, the frequencies are different, not for consumer goods. This is not the first satellite to send a signal that even amateur radio enthusiasts have received, and there can be no guesswork from the area, because it cannot. I’ll also note about the propagation of radio waves, the distribution of those depends on their length and, accordingly, this will be the transmitter power in range. If anyone in the subject knows that it is not correct to compare the long-wave range and the microwave.
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      Have you ever seen a map?
      60 kilometer yes to Tartus 45, to Beirut 150, and to the lands with the indicated banner - a little further.
      Closer "hard" to be with the indicated symbol.
      Forgot about the mountains, sir, and they are there under 2000 meters
    5. Prophetic 9 November 2015 20: 55 New
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      Secret development. Scientists might not know. This is a secret invisible hat like that. Nano wassat
    6. Turkir 10 November 2015 00: 28 New
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      Strange, from me to Latakia 60 kilometers in a straight line

      Where are you in Syria?
      Please specify your location. Then we will know exactly how far you are from Latakia.
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    The old woman suffered long in high-voltage wires,
    Her charred carcass was found by timurovtsy in the bushes ...


    However, in this case for NATO, there is another popular Russian proverb: well done against the sheep, and well done against the sheep itself!

    Russia is not Yugoslavia, Iraq or Libya. Russia is Russia. The mysterious Russian soul that, if it ate her angry, will always fight back. For us will not be!
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  • man_of_war 9 November 2015 07: 06 New
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    Quote: wanderer
    Strange, it’s 60 kilometers from me to Latakia in a straight line, satellite TV is working, cellular communication is working, the Internet is also working, but the navigator in the car is working - a cool bubble.

    So maybe your equipment is not interested in these "bloodthirsty" Russians ... They apparently eat up Muscovite exclusive, technically exceptional :)
  • Sars 9 November 2015 07: 07 New
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    Russia - nothing to do with - is the Syrian magnetic anomaly. According to the forecasts of our scientists, similar anomalies will soon appear in the Black Sea and the Baltic states.
  • pvv113 9 November 2015 07: 08 New
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    Assumes that the technology in question is similar to Richag CRET

    About the electronic warfare systems "Vitebsk" and "Lever" - an excellent film
  • slizhov 9 November 2015 07: 19 New
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    It is necessary to create several of these bubbles so that their borders overlap each other, so that the Americans and the nose do not stick. And then create “muddy” glass for them on the entire planet, up to their coast. Then they will end up in a cage, then then bony fingers turning into Uncle Sam’s thick friable belly will rest on their states.
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    General seemed to sorted out the day before. Heaped everything in a heap, and electronic warfare, and satellites, and guidance systems.
  • cergey51046 9 November 2015 07: 24 New
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    I would like electronics in the area near the enemy to fail. Like the explosion of an electronic bomb.
  • rotmistr60 9 November 2015 07: 32 New
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    Something considerable time we don’t hear “raids” in the UN on V. Churkin from one unbalanced person

    The fact that the Americans "understand" only power is an axiom, deduced back in Soviet times. Americans perceive attempts to negotiate with them as weakness and bend their line even harder. As soon as they feel that they can get shakopat, so immediately find common points of interaction.
  • chaldon 9 November 2015 07: 47 New
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    Through the lips of a NATO general, the West is trying to justify its actual inaction in the fight against ISIS by the presence of an "electronic bubble" inflated by the treacherous Putin over Syria with Shoigu. As the saying goes: "Our Egorka, for all the excuses!"
  • oracul 9 November 2015 08: 13 New
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    You can argue for as long as you want, the main thing would be the subject of debate. I am personally pleased that not everything secret becomes instantly apparent, as it was, for example, in the 90s, the beginning of the XNUMXs. In the excitement of controversy, you can blurt out what the enemy should not know even by indirect signs. They are not fools engaged in intelligence. You just need to raise the question correctly, and then holy simplicity is worse than thieves.
  • kartalovkolya 9 November 2015 08: 16 New
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    I would like to tell the “critics” on the one hand and the “fools” on the other, do not strain and calmly take this “cry of Yaroslavna” coming from the American general Bridlav! A bubble there or something like that, I think it has a place to be, ours at least took EW measures and protect the Russian pilots from insane attempts to counter their actions with the delivery of ISIS air defense systems! Or did NATO think that Russia “arranged” them a free shooting range for training on real airplanes? And here’s “HORRY THERE IN A Gnaw”, as they say in a simple and intelligible Russian language! The main task is, first and foremost, to create a safe environment for our pilots, and therefore I think that our "crushed" and will "crush" all attempts by the West to disrupt the operation to destroy terrorists in Syria! And do not pour "crocodile tears" on all kinds of terrorists, both ISIS and "moderate", because the West itself, in the person of the French king, who organized the Bartholomew’s Night, proclaimed: "... beat everyone, and the Lord himself will figure out who Huguenot, and who is the true Catholic ... "!
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  • maxon106 9 November 2015 08: 34 New
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    Quote: svp67
    hi
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    for us, this is a controlled space.

    I’m wondering what the “scammers” say about this, especially in terms of our invasion ...

    yeah fuck what they say
  • Mercenary 9 November 2015 09: 00 New
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    But we fly and nothing !? laughing
  • Ivan Ivanovich 9 November 2015 09: 24 New
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    All the same, it’s nice that our defense industry doesn’t fail, thanks to all the specialized specialists
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    Eh, the economy would work for us. How the military industry works, but apparently there is no incentive
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    "The radars were blinded, the operation of electronic guidance systems was disrupted, and satellite interference was detected in a" bubble "with a diameter of 600 km" ...

    What a pleasure to hear such news ...
  • maikl50jrij 9 November 2015 09: 51 New
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    There is much more that is mysterious in the Russian dense forest ... The "civilized" world cannot understand the actions of the "barbarians"! As one of their representatives said, apparently God is with us ... wink
  • Streich 9 November 2015 09: 58 New
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    Finally, I waited for it to happen. Here you have all the guided missiles, missiles, bullets, what else there are GPS computers, as well as stealth technologies for airplanes, tanks, ships and fighting elephants. When will I wait for the systems not for blinding and loss of controllability, but for burning out the enemy’s electronics. GLORY TO OUR EW.
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    A bubble can and should, but hardly of such magnitude. Because their technique works in the centimeter range, and there is a decent attenuation and propagation within the line of sight. The earth is round, so the EW antennas should be higher. The interference from the EW is crushed by the enemy’s radar receiver, not the transmitter, and this is concrete, so everything can work around. Moreover, purely hypothetically, you can create false targets on the locator screen. Well, and a bubble in the visible range of 600 km is from the realm of fiction, you can probably blind a specific satellite with a laser, but are there any filters there that are visible? Well, hang an aerosol for a while around the object, not for 600 km?
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      And why do you think that it is necessary to “crush” interference? You can “count” the “signal” without even knowing what kind of information it carries, record and send again, and again and confuse the receiver until the equipment hangs completely. And dazzle the satellite? Yes, very simply, now everything, absolutely all optical devices are focused with the help of rangefinders (no matter which), the mercury deception systems of warhead guidance systems work on the same principle.
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    For the patriotic message of the article - the author is a big plus!
    For reliability, in terms of technical content - nothing to put.
    For CONTINUOUS jamming of a zone of such an area - the transmitting power is simply not enough. Again - the orbiting constellation of satellites includes several types of satellites, including thermal imaging and optical.
    Or a NATO general under this screen is trying to "get out" something of his own,
    either the technical parameters are distorted in the article and the information is “pulled” by pieces.
    Or, what ESPECIALLY wants to hope for, is a new word in the glorious deed of Russian electronic warfare equipment.
  • Evilblacker 9 November 2015 10: 28 New
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    In front of our defense industry, I just take off my hat and bow to the ground. When the enemy intimidated half the world begins to cry and "complain to mommy" - it’s worth a lot. And this, in turn, is the most powerful counterargument to our liberals, who advocate a reduction in defense spending.
    That's when the government will cleanse these liberals, then the social policy in the country will improve.
  • Kir1984 9 November 2015 10: 40 New
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    it's a dome, not a bubble !!! wink
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      Put a bubble for the article.
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  • facktor 9 November 2015 11: 25 New
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    Scout satellites with side-view radars are blinded once, if you can. Focusing of optical systems (focusing, as before) is performed not by the phase-contrast method, - estimate the satellite speed and lens aperture, but by rangefinder scanning, which also gives elevations of the underlying surface. Now imagine that not a locking signal is returned to the rangefinder, but any crap from the counter-reaction system. What will the camera focus on then?
  • Reptiloid 9 November 2015 11: 44 New
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    The Russian Army in Syria has already shown to the whole world and the United States that their theories are one thing, and our practice is quite another! I am proud of RUSSIA !!!
    Quote: Streich
    Finally, I waited for it to happen. Here you have all the guided missiles, missiles, bullets, what else there are GPS computers, as well as stealth technologies for airplanes, tanks, ships and fighting elephants. When will I wait for the systems not for blinding and loss of controllability, but for burning out the enemy’s electronics. GLORY TO OUR EW.
  • Buffalo 9 November 2015 11: 58 New
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    NATO: Giant electronic bubble in Syria does not allow us to fly.
    - God did not give a horny cow to a cheerful cow.
  • Zomanus 9 November 2015 12: 10 New
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    Apparently this is one of the parts of our "asymmetric response" to US threats (we will speak directly).
    They did not begin to build many bases and many missiles, but simply made their missiles useless.
    And taking into account the fact that our geniuses from KRET promised to soon make the EuroPRO system useless, and the Americans clearly heard this, we are waiting for the next flurry of Mr. air from the shallow countries of the anti-Russian arc, Poles and pro-balts.
  • Yugra 9 November 2015 12: 44 New
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    Right pride bursts from our capabilities ...
  • metropolity 9 November 2015 13: 05 New
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    Maybe it’s enough to already tell a tale about Donald Cook? )))
    The author refers to

    http://osnetdaily.com/2015/10/russian-jamming-system-blocks-all-nato-electronics
    -inside-bubble-600-km-in-diameter-over-syria /
    which links to a blogger
    http://tarpley.net/kerry-wants-enablers-on-the-ground-in-syria-but-no-decision-f
    rom-obama-on-ground-war-yet-russians-jamming-nato-electronics /
    which refers to another blogger on Livelyk, whose account there is deleted
    http://www.liveleak.com/c/phallus_naut
    And already in the very first link there is no general))
    1. Prophetic 9 November 2015 21: 15 New
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      Aircraft SREB exist, but on the Su-24, which flew around Cook, they simply are not put. And put on the Su-34. Well, a little embellished people. It happens. wink
  • Sheikh 9 November 2015 14: 17 New
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    Quote: aktanir
    the Americans and Europeans nevertheless beat a lot in our economy, compromises must be hiccuped, otherwise everything will go into poverty

    in this regard, the persistence and adequacy of the work of Minister Lavrov & Co. cannot but cause admiration. and the supreme commander, especially when compared with the Soviet times of the glorious Ukrainians Khrushchev and Brezhnev (this is the question of the Russian occupation of Ukraine)
    ps I have nothing against normal Ukrainians.