Israel Supports Al Qaeda ("Publico.es", Spain)

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Israel Supports Al Qaeda ("Publico.es", Spain)


What had previously been issued as a "conspiracy theory," in fact turned out to be true. As part of the conspiracy of the West against the Syrian state, Israel, starting in 2011, provided military and material and technical assistance to al-Qaeda in Syria.

Photographs by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the media with a wounded Syrian rebel in an Israeli military hospital in the Golan Heights prompted such authoritative international publications as The Wall Street Journal, The Times of Israel and The Daily Beast to conduct their own investigation.

Why did such a high-ranking Israeli official, who had repeatedly called on the world community to fight against Islamic terrorists from Hamas and Iran, shake hands with the “Islamic militant” who wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?

It should be noted that the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) of the Syrian and Israeli forces repeatedly reported Israeli military contacts with fighters from the Front al-Nusra, which is closely linked to Al-Qaida.

As a Druze activist Ahmad al-Maqat told Facebook, who spent 27 years in an Israeli prison and was arrested again in 2014 for anti-Israeli activities, Tel Aviv is implementing a new policy of so-called “peaceful coexistence”. Within the framework of this program, in the Golan Heights, near the Israeli military base, there is a training camp for “alka'idists.

The Israeli authorities deny this and declare that they provide only “humanitarian aid” to people affected by the hostilities. You are amazed at the cynicism of the Israeli regime, which in practice carries out the ruthless genocide of unarmed Palestinians, including children. Israel is the only country bordering Syria that refuses to accept Syrian refugees.

Has Israel forgotten that al-Qaeda has carried out terrorist acts in the United States, Europe and other countries that killed thousands of people?

Or maybe, as stated by former Israeli military intelligence chief Amos Yadlin (Amos Yadlin), within the framework of friendly relations, jihadists provide certain "strategic services" to Israel? Yadlin does not want to admit the possibility of weapons mass destruction by jihadists.

At the same time, Israel is actively engaged in introducing pro-Israel Palestinian agents into the ranks of jihadists, using them as cannon fodder to achieve their interests.

The goal does not always justify the means

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has repeatedly stated that "Israel must wipe out Gaza, as the Americans did with Hiroshima." Sharon is personally responsible for the massacre in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila on the outskirts of Beirut. He preferred to have the rapists and murderers from the Islamic state on the border with Israel, rather than pro-Iranian Hezbollah.

Doesn't this look like what we call “fishing in muddy water”?

Jihadists, none other than the instigators of war, it was with their filing that the flames of war raged in Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen. They are a threat to Russia. Israel seeks to extend its influence from the Euphrates to the Nile.

Possessing a significant military-political potential, does Israel make a mistake when it relies on bin Laden’s students in its strategy?

During the war in Iraq, Donald Rumsfeld created a special group P2OG, whose responsibilities included organizing a series of terrorist acts in order to justify Washington’s activities in the Middle East. It is possible that the P2OG group was involved in the seizure of the Catholic Church of the Blessed Virgin Mary of the Advocate (Saidat al-Nejat) in Baghdad in 2010 year. Al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the attack, and 60 people died as a result of the militant attack.

Israeli targets in Syria

Short term:

- The annexation of the Syrian Golan Heights, rich in water sources and the implementation of control over the water resources of neighboring countries. It should be noted that the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq and Syria are under the control of jihadists. According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to cut off the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

According to another plan developed after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and called Oranim, it is planned to create a so-called “hydraulic safety zone” to control Lebanon’s water resources. It should be noted that NATO also considered similar plans in 2011.

- The destruction of the "axis of resistance: Iran - Syria - Iraq - Hezbollah" ".

Long term:

- Turning the “axis of resistance” into tiny ethnic and religious enclaves that would not be able to withstand Israeli hegemony, which is fully consistent with the “plan B” for American President Obama for Syria.

Israel and the Russian military presence in Syria

Considering that Israel’s strategic goals on the Syrian direction do not include the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad, and the disintegration of the country, it is likely that Tel Aviv will be able to agree with Moscow on the division of spheres of influence, in exchange for maintaining the Tartus naval base after Syria , in the territory controlled by Alawite. Strengthening Russia's military presence in the Middle East will force the US to step up military aid to moderate opposition and lead to the establishment of a no-fly zone from the border with Turkey to the Golan Heights. This will be a preliminary step towards the "balkanization" of the region.

The air operation of the Russian Air Force forces jihadists to retreat in the direction of Iraq and Turkey. This leads to instability in these countries, which is in Israel’s favor.

Russia, leading the "pro-Assadavian coalition" and using military tactics developed in Tehran, significantly strengthened the position of the Syrian president.

Tel Aviv understands that the Iranian and Lebanese forces in these conditions will not take hostile actions against Israel until the conflict in Syria ends.

Moscow for many years supported the US sanctions against Iran, which has one of the largest gas reserves in the world. It is quite obvious that Moscow will try to prevent the construction of gas pipelines Iran-Iraq-Syria, as well as Qatar-Saudi Arabia-Iraq-Syria.

Strangely enough, but it turns out that Netanyahu has a much better relationship with “friend Putin” than with Barack Obama. The fact is that the lifting of US sanctions increases Iran’s international weight to the detriment of Israel and Saudi Arabia.

For the first time since the collapse of the USSR, we are witnessing a rapprochement between Russia and Iraq. This is beneficial for Israel and Saudi Arabia, as in this case it is to the detriment of Iran, as well as the United States. The Syrian events completely unleashed the hands of the Israelis, who stepped up the fight against the Palestinians, and the issue of creating two states receded into the background.

Syria's future

Before the start of Russian military intervention in Syria for Tel Aviv, the best scenario for the development of events was to “freeze” the conflict for many years, and thus switch the attention of Arab countries from Israel to Damascus.

This is exactly what happened during the war between Iraq and Iran (1980-1988) when the “Double Deterrence” plan, developed by Henry Kissinger, was implemented. The main goal of the plan was to prevent war in the economic, political, social and military development of Iran and Iraq, which eventually turned out to be. Now we are seeing Iraq returning to the Stone Age, and Iran is gradually being drawn into the Syrian war.

The words of the former chairman of the US defense policy committee Richard Perle, who said back in 1996, said “Israel in close cooperation with Turkey and Jordan should weaken Syria and also remove Saddam Hussein from Iraq”, were prophetic.

Now we are witnessing how slowly but surely the disintegration of Syria and Iraq is going on, not only as states, but also as nations.

Israel benefits from any, even the most negative development of the situation, such as the complete disintegration of the country and the disintegration of society. Israel is always a winner, whether it is the transformation of Syria into a confessional state, implying the organization of state power in accordance with the division of society into religious communities, like Lebanon, or the establishment of the Islamic state in Syria. This is always better than having a strong neighbor next to you.

Syrians have become the second nation in the world in terms of the number of refugees, after all the forgotten Palestinian refugees. It happened by chance or not, but Palestine and Syria border Israel.

A small Jewish state can become a superpower if there are three elements: territory, oil, and water. All these elements are in neighboring countries.

It may be considered that this is an “ideological plot”, but it turns out that Israel can achieve its hegemonic goals only if it leaves only scorched earth on its way.

Now Israel, along with Saudi Arabia and Turkey, is driving the last nail into the coffin of the Obama doctrine, based on the containment of China. The world's greatest powers, including Iran, clung to the fray in order to show their strength in the Middle East. Meanwhile, China is quietly watching the great powers plunge into the “Syrian swamp”.

The ultra-right forces in Israel live in a world of illusions, trying to wipe out their enemies from the face of the earth, but at the same time they ignore the dialectic, forgetting the theory of communicating vessels in such a troubled region.
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  1. +18
    8 November 2015 06: 17
    Yes, Jews have long supported the Syrian militants. Well, Iran will surely erase this ulcer in the coming decades.
    1. +26
      8 November 2015 08: 07
      Apparently, the Jews on the forum will have to ignore this article - there is nothing to say ...
      And the Spaniards are great fellows, it is not the first time they have removed their masks from the fascist physiognomy of the "chosen of God" - the Spanish courts, as you know, sent the Jews Jews with responsibility for "denying Lochocosta Holocaust yo ...., sorry, to their Jewish mother ...
      1. +6
        8 November 2015 08: 41
        Spanish courts are known to have sent

        The Spaniards, I remember, in the past were not too tolerant. As you, however lol

        Turning the “axis of resistance” into tiny ethnic and religious enclaves

        All of Israel's policy is built around this. And not only in relation to the axis (essentially pro-Russian), but also to all Arab countries. Accordingly, Israel's propaganda works on this order: "Arabs are savages who are not able to live in a multinational and multi-confessional state", "Arabs will never go beyond the borders of tribal communities", "for Arabs, the only power is AK."
      2. +8
        8 November 2015 08: 57
        Quote: Alexkorzun
        Apparently, the Jews ... have nothing to say


        You apparently have not heard Zhirinovsky and Solovyov for a long time. You will not stop pouring in!
        Dahl opened proverbs and sayings on the subject. And there! Honest mother - some words forbidden on the site. I had to rephrase:
        "Behind their tongue does not keep up and barefoot.
        Believe your eyes, not their speeches.
        The whole truth is that from them not true."
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 09: 40
          Colleague, if you use my phrase, then submit it without distorting:
          Apparently, the Jews on the forum will have to ignore this article - there is nothing to say ...

          The meaning is changing and you went the other way, Zhirik dragged.
          1. -2
            8 November 2015 10: 04
            The meaning changes and you go the other way.

            And you have the whole point in one direction
      3. +2
        8 November 2015 11: 15
        note - The author of the article, Nazanín Armanian, is an Armenian, a refugee of Iranian descent living in Barcelona, ​​who has a blog in a Spanish newspaper .. the Spaniards have nothing to do with it.
        1. -11
          8 November 2015 11: 42
          And Armenia is Iran’s closest ally ...
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 12: 02
            Quote: Taagad
            And Armenia is Iran’s closest ally ...

            belay And not Russia?
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 12: 30
              Quote: Hello
              And not Russia?

              outpost of Russia. hi
              1. +7
                8 November 2015 18: 17
                And here the Armenian is not Armenian. Her statement explains a lot in the incomprehensible policy of the State of Israel. On the IG, etc. attention is zero, and Syria was bombed? And how did Bibi worry in Moscow that the weapons of the Russian Federation would fall into Hezbollah’s hands? Etc. hi
                1. +7
                  8 November 2015 18: 32
                  Quote: Kasym
                  And here the Armenian is not Armenian. Her statement explains a lot in the incomprehensible policy of the State of Israel.



                  I will fully support Kasym! What does it really have to do with it

                  And Iran’s main allies now are Russia (as a military-political ally), and no matter how surprised, our republic of Kazakhstan (as an economic ally), by the way, has built a new Iran-Kazakhstan railway and plans to increase trade by 5 times with a friendly neighbor, which put an end to the attempts of external enemies to block Iran. The leadership of Iran and Kazakhstan found a common language, our presidents personally opened the very railway, that is, our southern neighbor becomes a strategic partner for us - such as China for Russia

                  Read the speeches of all Iranian leaders - Sajjidi, Rouhani, etc. - they unambiguously call the West enemies, and Russia and Kazakhstan are called friends and allies

                  But Armenia simply depends on Iran - it has a communication channel through Iran - there are no borders with the CSTO and EAC countries. But of course there isn’t as much benefit to Iran from it as from the KZ and the Russian Federation
          2. +5
            8 November 2015 12: 26
            Well, judging by the article - the customer’s ears stick out from Iran at 100%. hi
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          4. +1
            8 November 2015 14: 17
            Quote: Taagad
            And Armenia is Iran’s closest ally ...

            + That's right, the presidents of Iran kiss in a hickey with the presidents of Armenia. Without Iran, Armenia would have suffocated a long time ago. Moreover, I won’t be surprised if it becomes known that the Armenian diaspora in the USA is actively cooperating with Iranhi
      4. +3
        8 November 2015 12: 07
        Dobroi vremia day g-in!
        Posmet vsiat na sebia smelost korektirovat k kakoi mater
        ke, BENINAMATER!
        G-da starij kak WORLD profesia peisati-ortodoks nu (vi ponimat kakoi drevneshi profesion lol ), deistvovat is pod-tishka, taskat kastan is brand, i pods4itivat pri eto barish.Ni4ego novij!
        Sviaz peisati-ortodoks ne nova, strano o4en strano 4to tak nazivaemij DERMO-KRATOR dermokrizator nabral v rot dermo, i mol4ok.

        PS neverno polu4at udovolsti ot togo 4to nabrat v rot!
        1. -4
          8 November 2015 12: 13
          Quote: marinier
          Dobroi vremia day g-in!
          Posmet vsiat na sebia smelost korektirovat k kakoi mater
          ke, BENINAMATER!
          G-da starij kak WORLD profesia peisati-ortodoks nu (vi ponimat kakoi drevneshi profesion lol ), deistvovat is pod-tishka, taskat kastan is brand, i pods4itivat pri eto barish.Ni4ego novij!
          Sviaz peisati-ortodoks ne nova, strano o4en strano 4to tak nazivaemij DERMO-KRATOR dermokrizator nabral v rot dermo, i mol4ok.

          PS neverno polu4at udovolsti ot togo 4to nabrat v rot!

          Old as world is strong laughing
          Carry chestnut from brand wassat
          And I like you still write your wisdom.
        2. +1
          8 November 2015 16: 37
          I highly recommend using a virtual keyboard.
          http://russian.keyboard.su или http://translit.net/keyboard/ И никто смеяться не станет, если нет проблем с языком!
      5. +13
        8 November 2015 13: 05
        Well, why should they ignore her. Their tactics are correct - all of you are lying and Iran is to blame for everything. laughing Well, in fact, what was new in the article? Is Israel sabotaging Syria, treating and sponsoring militants? Well, so it was clear to everyone - they’ve been fighting for decades. How many times have Israelis struck at Syrian forces. What is Israel collaborating with al-Qaeda Islamists? Well, so Israel made friends with the Saudis against Iran, and al-Qaeda and its Syrian part of Nusra are controlled by the Saudis. Therefore, it is not clear what is surprising in the fact that al-Qaeda militants are being treated in Israel. Kedmi also talked about this, but no one has yet been able to accuse him of lying. In this case, we offer Israel a way out - to cooperate with us, and then our base will be in Syria, not Iranian. The move for Israel. They will cooperate - the border with Syria will become a very peaceful place and we will be able to carry out mutually beneficial projects. They will continue to carry out subversive activities against our ally, al-Assad - and the hezbollah will receive as much weapons as not every Middle Eastern country has.
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 13: 08
          In this case, we offer Israel
          It is very interesting that you are putting forward your proposals on behalf of whom? That is, your aspirations or an official vision of the situation?
      6. +1
        8 November 2015 17: 03
        article belated stuffing 25.10.15/XNUMX/XNUMX
        The Israeli government approved the inclusion of the Islamic State, Al-Nusra Front (Jebhat al-Nusra) and Abdullah Azam Brigades in the list of terrorist organizations. As noted in an official statement by the Israeli government, this decision was made on the recommendation of the General Security Service (Shabak) in connection with the intensified attacks on Israel by jihadist groups operating both abroad and within the country in recent years.
        Until now, the listed organizations were not considered terrorist in Israel, although their activities were banned in the country by the decree of the Minister of Defense of September 4, 2014. This situation did not allow to bring to criminal responsibility the Israelis supporting these organizations, as well as those fighting on their side outside Israel, Israel's "9 channel" reports.


        maybe not everyone likes it? :) as far as I know according to the laws of Israel of. individuals cannot engage with terrorists, so draw conclusions
      7. 0
        9 November 2015 23: 36

        Tel Aviv will allow Moscow to keep the base in Tartus ..... - the most stupid expression in recent times!
    2. -10
      8 November 2015 08: 44
      Professor Alexander Lerner, head of the orthopedics department of the Safed hospital, with 2 especially classified Alkaida terrorists (even their faces are classified), Wounded by government forces during the bombing. Terrorists are so valuable that prostheses worth tens of thousands of dollars each were purchased for them.



      Israeli military
      I protest like a mother
      And as a woman
      1. +28
        8 November 2015 08: 52
        Safed Professor Alexander Lerner with 2 especially classified Alkaida terrorists (even their faces are classified), Wounded by government forces during the bombing

        All this is blah blah blah for the press and the "world community" Two were saved, two hundred were sent to the next world.
        1. +7
          8 November 2015 11: 27
          Quote: DenZ
          They saved two, sent two hundred to the next world.

          + + + + +
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 23: 19
            “When an adult man has sexual intercourse with a little girl, it’s nothing, because when a girl is less than three years old, it’s as if someone sticks a finger in the eye, tears come to the eyes ... but the vision returns, and the innocence returns to the little one a girl who is less than three years old ”(Kethuboth 11b; Talmud, 617); “Sexual intercourse with a girl is permitted if the girl is 3 years old” (Niddah 44b) (see Russian version); “Goy girls from the age of 3 can be abused” (Aboda Sarah 37a).

            Moreover, the Talmud simultaneously provided for an “emergency exit” for the conscience of the Jews themselves ... through the murder of a seduced child: “... if a Jew had intercourse with a non-Jew, be she three years old and one day old or adult, married or not, and even if he is a minor only 9 years old and one day - since he had voluntary intercourse with her, she should be killed, as in the case of an animal (who participated in the act of bestiality), because through her the Jew was in a difficult position ”(Rambam, Mishne Torah, Halakhot Isur Bia, Perek Yud-Bet, 1495, ETT; Maimonides, op cit, «Prohibitions on Sexual Intercourse» 12;.. 10; Talmudic Encyclopedia, «Goy») [5].
            The first explanation is quite rational. Israel does not want to give Syria the Golan heights captured from it. It is possible not to mind and grab something else. And to make it much more convenient when chaos is around. The apartheid robber regime does not want to deal with equal neighbors, the rules of communication with which are regulated by international law. Fragmentation of neighboring states and bloody chaos on their territory provides convenient opportunities for continuing the robbery. The abreks themselves on carts do not pose such a great danger to the Zionist education, since it has a not too long, well-fortified border and technologically advanced armed forces. At the same time, Israel has strict border controls and a tough internal police regime; the possibility of large groups of terrorists seeping into its territory is vanishingly small.

            In addition, a significant number of terrorist groups are on Israeli and American rations and are unlikely to "bite the feeding hand."

            The second explanation, religious and mystical. East Jerusalem is home to the Omar Mosque, one of the greatest Islamic shrines. It was built on the site of the destroyed Second Jewish Temple. The Jews are waiting for the Moshiach - the one whom Christian eschatology calls the Antichrist. And to crown the "king of the Jews" - this false messiah and destroyer of people - they must in the restored Third Temple. Moreover, it should be rebuilt in the very place where it stood.
            1. +3
              8 November 2015 23: 20
              .............. The problem is that the Jews do not dare to destroy the Omar mosque on their own. This will be an unheard-of insult to Islam. After that, every Muslim in the world will be required to wage a holy war against them. Even hypocrites such as Arabian sheikhs will no longer be able to maintain relations with the Zionist entity.

              Now let's look at ISIS. The Caliphate demonstratively (even suspiciously demonstratively) destroys everything that gets in its way. All monuments, all shrines, including Islamic ones, which are declared "wrong" and have nothing to do with "pure Islam". A very realistic option is to organize either an ISIS breakout into East Jerusalem, or simply a powerful terrorist attack on behalf of ISIS. As a result, it is as if the "Muslims" would "themselves" destroy the mosque, and the Jews "will have nothing left to do" but to build the Third Temple in its place.

              This version should not be considered so conspiracy theories. Restoration of the Third Temple is the super task of the Jews, for the sake of which they can sacrifice even a serious financial benefit - according to their faith, the Moshiach will still give them power over the world, so that all expenses will be repulsed and the gesheft will turn out to be colossal.

              And finally, the third version. The actions of this formation have no rational nature. To harm his neighbors is as natural for him as breathing. Let us remember that wherever the Jewish people found themselves after the defeat by the Romans in the Jewish War and the destruction of the Second Temple, they always complained of "anti-Semitism". That is, I had problems with neighbors. If a person constantly complains that he is "persecuted" and "oppressed" everywhere, this means only one thing - he, willingly or unwillingly, behaves in such a way that causes hostility of others. The same Persians once greatly helped the Jews out, giving them shelter. We all see Israel's gratitude. The same is with other peoples, and with the eternal whining about "anti-Semitism" - probably something in their behavior provokes this very anti-Semitism. Maybe they don't want it themselves - but it always happens. Somehow by itself.

              This is not surprising, since Judaism declares only Jews as "real people". Goyim, who are not Jews, are considered just animals, which Jehovah gave to human form so that the Jews would not be so disgusted with using their services.
        2. +2
          8 November 2015 17: 03
          DenZ Today, 08:52
          All this is blah blah blah for the press and the "world community" Two were saved, two hundred were sent to the next world.

          ++++ ..... +++ To conceal a militant policy for the seizure of foreign territories (that you did not live on the one that was presented to you), you would have got hold of a specially wounded photo for this. By the way, they have joy and gratitude in eyes do not shine. The photo in the article says much more. The principle of making shit, and then after achieving your goals noble to look like "forgive us this by accident", everything you do is disgusting. belay
          1. +3
            8 November 2015 21: 25
            And minus one. Hurt, well, well. Hai live Ridna Palestine, to evil enemies. laughing
            1. -1
              8 November 2015 23: 29
              Palestinians are genetic Jews, that is, heirs whose seed was bequeathed [the promised land], and the majority of those professing Judaism are descendants of the Khazars [Turks, Caucasians and Russians. Look at the topic of cutting off dry branches, the Nazis in the camps rotted the so-called Akshenazi Jews. Everyone who went to the desert on collective farms did not go to fulfill the prophecy.
      2. +2
        8 November 2015 09: 02
        Well, you damn, heroes
      3. +6
        8 November 2015 09: 26
        Or maybe these are children from the Gaza Strip after shelling by the Israeli military? They themselves crippled and helped themselves, and now with this pathos this photo is being duplicated.
        1. -3
          8 November 2015 11: 41
          Then they would not have been taken to the Safed hospital. Safed Hospital is the closest hospital to the Syrian border.
      4. +12
        8 November 2015 12: 22
        Quote: Taagad
        The terrorists are so valuable that they acquired prostheses worth tens of thousands of dollars each.

        Touched. Now letting a tear come ...
        ===============================
        I don’t know whether to believe the Swedish daily Aftonbladet (article by Donald Bostrem)


        "Våra söner plundras på sina organ" ("Our sons are being plundered for their organs"
        IDF soldiers kill Palestinians for donor organs

        Aftonbladet tabloid, what to take from it (for 2006: 1 daily readers (Orvesto 425 study: 000), which roughly equals 15% of the population of Sweden.)
        They probably lie ...


        19-year-old Bilal Achmed Ghanan was shot and taken away by Israeli soldiers. His body was returned to his family brutally stitched up from the abdomen to the chin. Source: Israeli Organ Harvesting The New “Blood Libel”? by Alison Weir, 2009.



        The truth was / is:
        L. Greenberg from the National Institute of Forensic Medicine Yehuda Hiss and his "UDO" with an interview

        a certain Levi Yitzhak Rosenbaum (rabbi), who was going to buy (or buy) kidneys from the poor for 10 thousand dollars and then sell them for 160 thousand.

        According to Rosenbaum, he has been involved in this business for many years.
        Well, there are still some 5 rabbis. / Well, the recent syndicate case in New Jersey, the FBI, arrests ...

        every little thing:



        1. -6
          8 November 2015 15: 20
          The liberal Swedish newspaper Sidsvenskan, the main newspaper in the south of the country, sharply criticized Aftonblad and overwhelmed it with Antisemitbladet.

          “We have already heard this story, in one form or another. It completely coincides with the traditional form of conspiracy theory: a large number of threads that the theoretician tries to tie into a single knot, without preoccupying with bringing any proven justifications, ”writes newspaper columnist Mats Skogkar.

          "Whispers in the Dark. Anonymous sources. Gossip. Everything will fit. In the end, we all know that they (the Jews), unlike us, are inhuman and cruel. They are capable of anything, writes the columnist. “Now it only remains to go into a completely predictable defense:“ Anti-Semitism? No, no, just a criticism of Israel. ”






          a certain Levi Yitzhak Rosenbaum (rabbi), who was going to buy (or buy) kidneys from the poor for 10 thousand dollars and then sell them for 160 thousand.




          Rosenbaum is charged with the following: it is assumed that he billed three New Jersey residents between $ 120.000 and $ 150.000 to search for three kidneys. He organized the necessary blood tests to ensure alignment and entry into the United States. According to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, the detention was due to an FBI secret agent who said that he had a sick uncle and therefore needed a kidney.

          For Rosenbaum, it was not about saving a life. He was only focused on capitalizing on the money that instantly settled in his pocket, Fishman said in an interview with an Israeli newspaper. Therefore, the prison sentence for a 61-year-old Israeli is proportionate, given his crime and guilt.

          However, other estimates can be found. Rachel Washauer, who came from Brooklyn to defend the accused, conveyed a completely different impression of Levi Yitzhak Rosenbaum. “There are no casualties,” she told the Associated Press (AP). “Donors are happy and recipients are happy.” Others who came to support Rosenbaum also call him “a devoted Orthodox Jew,” who devoted his life to saving other people.
          1. +5
            8 November 2015 16: 36
            Quote: Wiski
            Donors are happy and recipients are happy. ”

            I sob, already let a tear of tenderness ...crying
            Tell me, would you wish yourself the same "happiness" as those of these donors?
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 20: 02
              Quote: Sid.74
              Tell me, would you wish yourself the same "happiness" as those of these donors?


              They weren’t taken by force, right?
              There are people who donate organs at will and generally for free, so what? Their right.

              I do not support organ trafficking, but given that a person does not die without a kidney, that many donate for free, then the question is more about gaining money on people, and not the question itself, whether this should be done and probably both parties may be quite happy as some die without waiting.
      5. +4
        8 November 2015 14: 20
        but there is evidence that the children suffered precisely from the government army?
    3. -33
      8 November 2015 08: 49
      Steam dust swallow.
      1. -10
        8 November 2015 10: 41
        Israelis, unlike many people, know history and try to draw conclusions from past conflicts, predict future conflicts and try to carry out preventive measures.
        1. +8
          8 November 2015 13: 21
          Israelis, unlike many parasites in conflicts .... hi
        2. +8
          8 November 2015 14: 22
          they do not predict them and provoke
          1. +4
            8 November 2015 16: 14
            Quote: anti-Semite
            they do not predict them and provoke

            Prediction does not preclude provocation. We must pay tribute - MOSAD does its work in a high-quality, albeit not very ethical manner. Efficiency is beyond morality. hi
            1. +3
              8 November 2015 16: 31
              there is no ethics in politics, it infuriates that Jews make victims of themselves even invading foreign countries
              1. +3
                8 November 2015 17: 58
                Quote: anti-Semite
                there is no ethics in politics

                I agree. There are principles and national interests in politics. A statesman may neglect principles for the sake of national interests, but not national interests for the sake of principles.
                Quote: anti-Semite
                Jews make victims
                Centuries-old traditions are such, and religion. laughing
      2. +1
        8 November 2015 12: 14
        Oh, where did you get the Kyrgyz malach from? :)
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 13: 30
          The brother came to visit, brought. Only this is not malachi.
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      4. +1
        8 November 2015 17: 26
        Steam dust swallow.

        Is that you, Russia ??? fool
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 21: 06
          This is me to all ill-wishers.
    4. +8
      8 November 2015 09: 40
      erase this ulcer

      It seems to me that you are a provocateur, a Nazi, a racist, a fascist and just a whore who writes ignorantly and spitefully.
      1. -2
        8 November 2015 17: 47
        Quote: razgildyay
        Seems to me

        But I don’t give up, I’m sure that the Nazis, racists and anti-Semites gather in the Jewish state. And only in Jewish. Therefore, the best minus from me. tongue
    5. 0
      8 November 2015 13: 19
      There is nothing surprising here, Israel is a policy of double standards, a friend as long as he is the enemy of my enemy .... smile
  2. +17
    8 November 2015 06: 28
    Israel "helps" to put out a Middle East fire with gasoline ... Well, well.
  3. +27
    8 November 2015 06: 32
    Israel, since 2011, has provided military and logistical assistance to al-Qaeda in Syria.

    This information is not at all surprising, because fits very smoothly into Israeli politics in this region. Yes, and on our website, commentators from this country constantly mix Assad with mud and criticize (to put it mildly) the actions of our VKS in Syria. Imagine their reaction to this article - a lie, not a knowledge of the situation, etc.
    “Israel must wipe Gaza from the face of the earth, as the Americans did with Hiroshima”

    And this is not a fascist statement. The "chosen" with the "exceptional" dictate the rules for the existence of states in the world, while forgetting a simple Russian proverb: "A stick with two ends."
    1. +7
      8 November 2015 07: 11
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The "chosen" with the "exceptional" dictate the rules for the existence of states in the world, while forgetting a simple Russian proverb: "A stick with two ends."

      To me, in general, it is up to the bulb of Israel, although there are also human people.
      I'm more interested in the future of Russia.
      And this pumping of the negative matrix around Israel has a foundation.
      And the answer is probably here. Here is the "future" of Russia.
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 12: 15
        Israel is destabilizing the Middle East with the Saudis and others like them, thinking that they will rule them in the end, harming Russia, Israel will be extorted, ... and punished ...
    2. +5
      8 November 2015 08: 30
      Quote: rotmistr60
      “Israel must wipe out Gaza,

      Zhirik offered to drop a nuclear bomb on Chechnya, how is it?
      1. +4
        8 November 2015 08: 51
        In my opinion, it is not entirely adequate.
        1. +4
          8 November 2015 11: 39
          Quote: miru mir
          In my opinion, it is not entirely adequate.


          But abruptly McCain will be. laughing
      2. +6
        8 November 2015 09: 30
        In addition - "to enclose the Caucasus with barbed wire", "to limit the birth rate in the Caucasus"!
        "God's chosen blood" always finds a native body, although he likes to repeat that he is RUSSIAN (?)! And SOMETIMES he remembers about grandfather's little factory in the West of the Outskirts! And how he sobbed at the grave of his grandfather in the cemetery in Israel, you had to see!
        And indeed, the presence of a party of marginals, headed by their leader (and gilt) - MUCHING and INSURANCE of the RUSSIAN NATION!
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 11: 26
          Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov

          Vladimir, don’t be offended. You hear a ring, but you don’t know where he is.
          Indeed, only what the authorities want to see is leaked to the press.
          And this is an intelligent person, historian, orientalist. But the authorities are not ubiquitous. Sometimes information leaks out (which I could consider, but you are not), which is worth considering.
          1. +3
            8 November 2015 12: 17
            It was in addition to Zhirinovsky's statement at one time "to throw an atomic bomb on Chechnya"!
        2. 0
          8 November 2015 12: 17
          It was in addition to Zhirinovsky's statement at one time "to throw an atomic bomb on Chechnya"!
          1. +3
            8 November 2015 15: 26
            Well, sometimes you don’t blurt out for a glass of tea? lol
            And imagine the level of the magazine that blew this message?
            And then, more. Are we already so stupid that we seriously take it?
            Or maybe it’s done on purpose. That's how they make a jester out of a person.
            And serious statements are perceived as another whim
  4. +21
    8 November 2015 06: 41
    The children of Moses hating (all) Russia and Russians and RUSSIAN (and try to refute):
    1. -8
      8 November 2015 09: 43
      Yeah, so rebellious that the yoke of the Horde was not, it's a fairy tale; and under the kings, in serfdom in general there was a paradise, the evil communists destroyed everything. And then when everything began to improve under the Communists, the Russians took and destroyed the USSR, as a monastery of unfreedom and oppression.
      1. +14
        8 November 2015 10: 36
        there was, there was a yoke ... from Mongolia the Mongols rode along the high-speed horse-drawn highway ... Serfdom was much milder than the feudal system of Europe. and the nationality of those evil communists was by the way appropriate ..
        1. -9
          8 November 2015 10: 42
          and the nationality of those evil communists was by the way appropriate ..

          Understood, Jews. It’s good that the Mongols are not with the pace.
          Serfdom is much milder than the feudal system of Europe.

          What is softer? Did all the peasants sleep on soft feather beds?
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 10: 56
            I'm not very-Mongols in the Mongols. Bronstein often meet?
            Quote: razgildyay
            What is softer? Did all the peasants sleep on soft feather beds?

            The fact that all the peasants belonged to the king. Otyuuda and "tsar-father". The landowner did not have the right to judge and take the life of his peasant (flog at the most for a minor offense. Saltychikha was condemned and soldered for life for arbitrariness). Until some time, peasants generally had the right to change landlords.
            1. -5
              8 November 2015 11: 15
              Oh, well, in the idyll, the feudal system in Europe is also a model of justice and honesty, as well as of the Christian order. Well, in general you have a maniamok in all fields.
              1. +8
                8 November 2015 11: 19
                What exactly is an example of honesty — the right of a first night for English princes in Ireland? fencing? children's work houses? Were there any analogues to this in Russia?
                1. -7
                  8 November 2015 11: 43
                  first night right for the English princes in ireland

                  There was no right, and the night was not just once, Strashinsky and Gorsky as an example to you, as the most famous cases, well, or even Hannibal, who is Arap Petra.
                  fencing?

                  Fencing someone what?
                  children's work houses?

                  Ololo, the luminosity of Russia himself, the Greatest Peter, the Great gave the decree, so that the street children were sent to manufactories and in the company. Is it worth remembering the life of peasant children, they did not work while their fathers served for 18 years, yes.
                  Manyamirok continues to exist.
                  1. +7
                    8 November 2015 11: 54
                    a reference to those decrees is possible? Yes, and the peasant community, if it gave the soldiers into the family, provided for its children, and as a rule the unmarried served
                    1. -2
                      8 November 2015 12: 20
                      a link

                      Krivonosov A.N. The historical experience of combating homelessness. Convenient book - all together.
                      Yes, and the peasant community, if it gave the soldiers into the family, provided for its children, and as a rule the unmarried served

                      My turn is to ask for a reference, how was help regulated?
                      1. +1
                        8 November 2015 13: 40
                        I’ll definitely download and read at my leisure what exactly it says about the exile of street children in Peter's times. It is unlikely that I will find a reference to the rules of assistance to families of conscripts, because this follows, in principle, from the logic of the world outlook of the peasant community. Reread contemporaries in order to convince you I see no reason, excuse me hi
                  2. +4
                    8 November 2015 13: 46
                    Quote: razgildyay
                    There was no right, and night was more than once,

                    everything was in the past. however, in some countries this was condemned by society, while in others it was enshrined in law. Feel the difference?
                  3. 0
                    8 November 2015 14: 28
                    can you name the country in which then it was different?
                2. +3
                  8 November 2015 11: 48
                  Quote: Saber
                  What exactly is an example of honesty — the right of a first night for English princes in Ireland? fencing? children's work houses? Were there any analogues to this in Russia?

                  Maxim, your argument with Alexei is quite interesting to watch, only a couple of nuances do not correspond to reality. The concept of "English prince in Ireland" evokes a slight smile, due to the absence of the concept of "prince" in the Anglo-Sanksonian hierarchy, and "fencing" is still a bourgeois term, which has an indirect relationship to feudalism.

                  Something like this, colleague, it will be more accurate. hi
                  1. +3
                    8 November 2015 11: 52
                    I agree, dear! I write by raids, I work ..
                    1. +2
                      8 November 2015 11: 55
                      Quote: Saber
                      I agree, dear! I write by raids, I work ..

                      And I, Oleg, are a pensioner. So now I’ll treat you with understanding. Yes
                      1. +1
                        8 November 2015 13: 48
                        Oleg, why Vladimir1964?
                      2. 0
                        8 November 2015 16: 24
                        Quote: Saber
                        why Vladimir 1964?

                        BS MVD or MO most likely.
                      3. 0
                        8 November 2015 16: 34
                        Quote: Ingvar 72

                        BS MVD or MO most likely.


                        And this, colleague Igor, what are you talking about, if not secret?
                      4. +2
                        8 November 2015 18: 01
                        Quote: Vladimir 1964
                        What are you talking about if not a secret?

                        Former employee (although there are no former laughing ) If you take 1964 as the year of birth, then you can be a pensioner at 51 years old while serving in the army or in the organs. hi
                      5. +1
                        8 November 2015 18: 40
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Former employee (although there are no former employees). If you take 1964 as the year of birth, then you can be a pensioner at 51 years old while serving in the army or in the organs.

                        That's right, colleague. I just could not decipher the abbreviation BS. hi
                      6. +1
                        8 November 2015 16: 32
                        Quote: Saber
                        Oleg, why Vladimir1964?


                        It’s me, Maxim, who I called Oleg in the park. I’m sorry, colleague. hi
                        PS And my name and nickname are the same.
          2. +4
            8 November 2015 14: 26
            In what year did the states abolish slavery? allowed marriages between different races? removed black spots on the buses?
        2. +1
          9 November 2015 00: 45
          Only the Mongols did not know about it
      2. +1
        8 November 2015 12: 19
        Serfdom arose under Peter the Great, a great lover of Europe and a window-cutter - made slaves, as was customary in Europe at that time ... Holland was one of the states actively involved in the transportation of slaves (to North America, on the plantation).
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 20: 41
          Quote: shans2
          Serfdom arose under Peter the Great, a great lover of Europe and a window-cutter - made slaves, as was customary in Europe at that time ...

          You read - and you learn a bunch of new things! what
          And I thought that the emergence of serfdom to Peter 1 has nothing to do ... request
          In Kievan Rus and the Novgorod Republic, unfree peasants were divided into categories: stinks, purchases, and slaves. In tsarist Russia, serfdom spread widely by the sixteenth century; officially confirmed by the Council Code of 1649; canceled in 1861.

          And for the first time, serfdom began to be legally formalized by the Judiciary of 1497 under Ivan 3, the grandfather of Ivan the Terrible.
      3. +3
        8 November 2015 16: 20
        Quote: razgildyay
        the evil communists destroyed everything.

        Russian communists? wink
        And the name of the Russian destroyers of the USSR to list? Everywhere Jews were drawn, you will erase figs.
        1. +4
          8 November 2015 23: 43
          Gusskie bhatja
          Russian communists? wink
          The national composition of the personnel of the Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB of the USSR in 1917 - 1938 http://mrk-kprf-spb.narod.ru/bespal.htm “Together with Trotsky”: the origins of the “purges of 1937” in the Red Army http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/istoriya_rossii/vmeste_s_trockim_istoki_chist
          ok_1937_goda_v_krasnoy_armii /
    2. +2
      9 November 2015 07: 20
      Name
      The children of Moses hating (all) Russia and Russians and RUSSIAN (and try to refute):



      Printing this dirt and under your own name, at least bother to indicate your source.
      Although it’s probably muddy to trace the beginning, it is everywhere.
  5. -44
    8 November 2015 06: 51
    I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense. Let the anti-Semites be amuse themselves without us.
    1. +17
      8 November 2015 07: 02
      Why nonsense? After all, Israel supported Afghan dushmans, helped establish Hamas, helped topple the secular regime of Iran, and collaborated with Iran’s ayatollahs, and you can write an encyclopedia about relations with Nazi Germany.
      1. -3
        8 November 2015 08: 54
        Israel collaborated with Iran, but just with the secular. In the days of Nazi Germany, Israel did not exist. So your encyclopedia will be similar to this article.
        1. +7
          8 November 2015 09: 06
          Egor, remember the Iran Contra scandal. Israel played an important role in Iran’s procurement of weapons for the war with Iraq. Yes, there was no Israel and the Jews were and arrangements with the Nazis on the emigration of Jews to Palestine were even a medal with the star of David and a swastika was knocked out for something.
          1. +6
            8 November 2015 09: 43
            Banks and concerns of "God's chosen", located in the US and neutral countries ACTIVELY collaborated with the Hitler regime during the war! Yes, and Adolf came to power with the assistance of US bankers!
            1. -19
              8 November 2015 10: 00
              With the Nazi regime during the war and the USSR actively collaborated.
              1. +5
                8 November 2015 10: 08
                Quote: miru mir
                With the Nazi regime during the war and the USSR actively collaborated.



                Vraki, there was no cooperation with the Nazis during the war. We crushed them during the war. If there was cooperation then BEFORE the war.
                1. -7
                  8 November 2015 10: 36
                  And when the war began, let me ask you?
                  1. +6
                    8 November 2015 10: 49
                    Quote: miru mir
                    And when the war began, let me ask you?



                    Our Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941. It turns out there are people who do not know this.
                    1. -3
                      8 November 2015 10: 53
                      Quote: Athenogen
                      Quote: miru mir
                      And when the war began, let me ask you?



                      Our Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941. It turns out there are people who do not know this.

                      In general, World War II began in 1939
                      1. +4
                        8 November 2015 11: 14
                        Then in 1937 with the Japanese attack on China. but it’s still not clear how actively he collaborated with the Nazi regime of the USSR?
                      2. +4
                        8 November 2015 11: 30
                        Quote: atalef
                        In general, World War II began in 1939

                        Do not confuse the Patriotic with the world. The first began with the arrival of Napoleon's "great army", the second with Hitler's second "European Union". Well, in general, you yourself understand that the world war is alien to us, like the term "Colony" because of which the whole boom was started
                      3. +2
                        8 November 2015 11: 50
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Athenogen
                        Quote: miru mir
                        And when the war began, let me ask you?

                        ...

                        In general, World War II began in 1939

                        We know this without you.
                    2. -1
                      8 November 2015 12: 05
                      The Second World War began a little earlier. AND
                      Quote: Athenogen
                      It turns out there are people who do not know this.
              2. +3
                8 November 2015 10: 24
                Quote: miru mir
                With the Nazi regime during the war and the USSR actively collaborated.

                Just like, through assault strikes by aircraft and tank wedges.
              3. +4
                8 November 2015 10: 37
                and how will "Svidomo" be in Hebrew?
                1. -3
                  8 November 2015 12: 07
                  Quote: Saber
                  and how will "Svidomo" be in Hebrew?

                  And how will it be in Russian?
                  1. +4
                    8 November 2015 13: 44
                    Svidomo in Russian will be Svidomo. The Russian language is extremely flexible and adaptive. He simply borrows the word and gives it a new meaning - "Svidomo" - a narrow-minded, poorly educated person who is maddened by the Soviet past, but has done nothing in the post-Soviet present
                    1. 0
                      8 November 2015 15: 00
                      Russian is my native language. And, I hope, I know Russian no worse than you. But the word Svidomo is unfamiliar to me.
                      Quote: Saber
                      a short-sighted, poorly educated man, frantic about the Soviet past, but did nothing in the post-Soviet present

                      And for such a rich definition, there is no Hebrew word.
                      1. +2
                        8 November 2015 16: 34
                        I give, Svidomo!
                      2. -1
                        8 November 2015 21: 10
                        Thank you, but I can somehow manage without this jargon smile
              4. +3
                8 November 2015 14: 30
                The USSR was the last country to sign a non-attack treaty with the Reich, the first was Poland
          2. 0
            8 November 2015 09: 59
            I know one thing: from the moment of the seizure of power by America, America, Israel and the Soviet Union were appointed as the main enemies of Iran.
            About that medal, I have not heard. Throw, please, link-interesting. I had a neighbor, a repatriate from Newberg, often told me about Germany. By the way, her husband was a Russian subbotnik, died in 1969. And one of the sons died in the First Lebanese.
            1. +2
              8 November 2015 10: 16
              Please https://my.mail.ru/mail/5kov-57/photo/2783/2922.html
              Not everything is so obvious the shah decided to slowly send Anglo-Saxon partners from the oil fields, but this is not the order, besides the shah kept all the money from them and this is several billion with that money, and besides, the source of tension never prevents him from doing dark things. parties.
              1. -2
                8 November 2015 10: 38
                Wow. Thank you, I have not seen such a miracle. I will rummage at leisure.
              2. 0
                8 November 2015 19: 27
                Quote: apro
                Please https://my.mail.ru/mail/5kov-57/photo/2783/2922.html

                This is not a Jewish medal, but a Palestinian German medal. There were some. They were very active in supporting Hitler and their mandated British authorities were forcibly resettled to Australia in 1937. The six-pointed star is depicted there, since it was they who thought they were the "new Israel".
      2. -5
        8 November 2015 10: 12
        Quote: apro
        Why nonsense? After all, Israel supported Afghan dushmans, helped establish Hamas, helped topple the secular regime of Iran, and collaborated with Iran’s ayatollahs, and you can write an encyclopedia about relations with Nazi Germany.

        1. +3
          8 November 2015 10: 25
          Alexander, is something wrong?
          1. -3
            8 November 2015 10: 40
            Quote: apro
            Alexander, is something wrong?

            Sorry, but your nonsense, and it's silly to comment, it's not like that (well, maybe behind the partial truth in the person of Hamas)
            In general, the adequacy, knowledge and horizons are checked precisely in such articles - I see that there is nothing for many (including marshalls) to brag about. You should not try to persuade. Practice, convince others that you and everyone are ruled by Jews, I really like it.
            Everyone finds satisfaction in something that he controls — you can see that they control you. For health.
            And if you think that I will try to convince you of this, don’t hope that you are being ruled, apparently
            1. +7
              8 November 2015 11: 13
              Alexander will leave a bunch of words aside.
              1 connection with the Afghan dushmans, the transfer of either Soviet or Israeli-made weapons, training is an indisputable fact, or are there doubts? Let's discuss
              2Massad’s participation in the Iranian revolution in order to overthrow the secular regime of the Shah and create a hotbed of tension in the region is available.
              According to Hamas, you yourself agreed.
              4cooperation with Nazi Germany as the surname of the Fuhrer?
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 11: 19
                Quote: apro
                connection with the Afghan dushmans transfer or weapons of Soviet and Israeli production, training is an indisputable fact, or are there doubts? let's discuss


                Come on, an example in the studio.
                at the same time, we will discuss the supply of arms of the USSR to all Arab countries
                Quote: apro
                2Massad’s participation in the Iranian revolution in order to overthrow the secular regime of the Shah and create a hotbed of tension in the region is available.

                come on, especially in terms of - why the heck did we need it
                Quote: apro
                4cooperation with Nazi Germany as the surname of the Fuhrer?


                Israel (which a priori did not exist) or the USSR treaty of 39 years?
                1. +4
                  8 November 2015 12: 02
                  How much did you run
                  at the same time, Wilson, bypassing the State Department, reached an agreement in principle with the politicians of Egypt and Israel (in those years Wilson was one of the few representatives of the pro-Israeli lobby in Washington who were not ethnic Jews, which increased its significance in the eyes of the Israelis) about the possible supply of weapons to Afghan militants. Pakistani inter-agency intelligence ISI agreed to distribute Israeli aid to the Mujahideen, "unless the stars of David are painted on boxes."
                  Israel had enough weapons produced in the USSR captured as trophies in numerous wars. In the supply of weapons to friendly Arab states, states and not illegal armed groups, the PLO of the USSR was recognized as a state organization.
                  In Iran, there was such an organization SAVAK which was controlled by the Americans and the massad, the result of cooperation the overthrow of the Shah, why the zone of instability brings big dividends.
                  Israel is not an independent state; it is a weapon of the SGA in the east.
                  The emigration of European Jews began when Hitler came to power and continued after the start of WWII. The Black Sea Fleet of the USSR sank transport in the Black Sea leading Jews to Palestine, was there even a noise. Are Jewish terrorists conducting military operations against the British in Palestine during WWII?
                  And what about the 1939 Moscow treaty? Everything, in the framework of international law, officially the USSR did not fight Hitler with Germany, and honestly did not intend to.
                  1. -1
                    8 November 2015 12: 25
                    Where did the firewood come from? At least some reference will be?
              2. 0
                8 November 2015 11: 22
                Quote: apro
                1 connection with the Afghan dushmans, the transfer of either Soviet or Israeli-made weapons, training is an indisputable fact, or are there doubts? Let's discuss

                Give what your "indisputable" proof.
                Quote: apro
                2Massad’s participation in the Iranian revolution in order to overthrow the secular regime of the Shah and create a hotbed of tension in the region is available.

                Give the data.
      3. +1
        8 November 2015 11: 51
        Quote: apro
        Why nonsense? After all, Israel supported Afghan dushmans, helped establish Hamas, helped topple the secular regime of Iran, and collaborated with Iran’s ayatollahs, and you can write an encyclopedia about relations with Nazi Germany.


        I will not argue with anything, Dear Oleg, but with Hamas, I think this is a little bust, colleague. hi
        1. +3
          8 November 2015 12: 21
          Vladimir, too, at first seemed strange to me, but Fatah was pro-Soviet for Israel more dangerous and at first the Hamasites received support for splitting the Palestinian resistance, and when the clashes with Fatah began, it was a balm to perfume the Jews, such a small stroke to release the corporal captured by the Hamas was released hundreds Hamas supporters from Israeli prisons. Why?
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 15: 56
            Quote: apro
            Vladimir, too, at first seemed strange to me, but Fatah was pro-Soviet for Israel more dangerous and at first the Hamasites received support for splitting the Palestinian resistance, and when the clashes with Fatah began, it was a balm to perfume the Jews, such a small stroke to release the corporal captured by the Hamas was released hundreds Hamas supporters from Israeli prisons. Why?


            Yes, Oleg, something about a more "loyal" attitude of the Israelis to Hamas as opposed to Yaserov's Fatah, I certainly heard out of my ear. However, I was embarrassed by the fact that Fatah was more of a "handshake" type due to "moderation" compared to radical Hamas. But nevertheless, the fact remains that the Israelis had some kind of relationship. I missed it. As a result, I am withdrawing my "accusations" addressed to you. hi Yes
        2. +2
          8 November 2015 16: 36
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          but with Hamas, I think it's a little bust

          Is not a fact. If you look deeper, Hamas is convenient from the point of view of Israel as a constant irritant that allows you to keep the Jewish population consolidated.
          Ben-Gurion, once wrote in the Jewish newspaper Kempfer in New York:
          “If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, using brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews with anti-Semitic slogans.
          I can guarantee that the results, from the point of view of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries, would be ten times greater than the results achieved by thousands of emissaries by reading fruitless sermons. "
          hi
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 17: 26
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Is not a fact. If you look deeper, Hamas is convenient from the point of view of Israel as a constant irritant that allows you to keep the Jewish population consolidated.
            Ben-Gurion, once wrote in the Jewish newspaper Kempfer in New York:
            “If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, using brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews with anti-Semitic slogans.
            I can guarantee that the results, from the point of view of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries, would be ten times greater than the results achieved by thousands of emissaries by reading fruitless sermons. "


            Igor, in this statement by Ben-Gurion, it was not about Israel, but about the countries where Jews lived, with the aim of escalating the situation in them and increasing the growth in the number of returnees to their historical homeland. Yes, and I must admit that over the past time, both the political and demographic situation in Israel has changed significantly and Ben-Gurion’s speech has somewhat lost its relevance.

            Like so, colleague. hi
            1. +3
              8 November 2015 17: 54
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Igor, in this statement by Ben-Gurion, it was not about Israel, but about the countries where Jews lived, with the aim of escalating the situation in them
              Volodya, I’m talking about how to create an image of the enemy in general. And the reception, although not distinguished by the purity of morality, is nonetheless effective, and Hamas is GLOBALLY beneficial to Israel. hi
      4. +1
        9 November 2015 07: 31
        , and encyclopedias can be written about relations with Nazi Germany.


        And you write, we honor.

        I’m reading the last week - Heisenberg Werner - Physics and PhilosophyI'm straining my brain.
        maybe your decent work will dispel a little.
    2. +18
      8 November 2015 07: 09
      Israel helps the Syrian terrorists, nonsense, Israel bombes a sovereign state, nonsense, Israel kills Palestinians and destroys their property, also nonsense. Well, where isn’t nonsense then?
      1. +15
        8 November 2015 07: 39
        For them, it is not nonsense, it is only what they broadcast in a mentoring tone, instructing us illiterate poor fellows on the "true path". Especially 2-3 well-known visitors of this site succeeded in this.
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 09: 24
          Quote: rotmistr60
          2-3 visitors to this site who are well known.

          Something like that, I looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere 1-2 minutes. Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 09: 37
            Quote: EvgNik
            Quote: rotmistr60
            2-3 visitors to this site who are well known.

            Something like that, I looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere 1-2 minutes. Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?

            Do you want to put a plus sign? What would your self-esteem increase?
          2. -6
            8 November 2015 10: 03
            Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?

            I'll put the plus sign, but please don't whine.
          3. +3
            8 November 2015 10: 17
            looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere minus 1-2
            1. +9
              8 November 2015 10: 32
              on such topics it is always a minimum! "They" on all "Nesvoim" pass by cons!
              Also notice!
              Yes, and other offended and offended have a negative "reap"! laughing
              1. -3
                8 November 2015 10: 41
                Hold and you. smile
            2. +6
              8 November 2015 10: 41
              Keep a plus sign from me. I always thought that plus or minus expresses agreement or disagreement with the comment. And many give it some other meaning. what
          4. +1
            9 November 2015 07: 43
            Something like that, I looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere 1-2 minutes. Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?


            No, they’re not tired, but whose will you be?
      2. -8
        8 November 2015 08: 58
        Israel destroys terrorists.
        Israel bombes the enemy state of Syria when it tries to arm Hezbollah terrorists with Russian weapons.
        Israel eradicates FILYSTIN terrorists and destroys their property.
        This is not nonsense.
        1. +5
          8 November 2015 09: 18
          Quote: miru mir
          Israel bombes the enemy state of Syria when it tries to arm Hezbollah terrorists with Russian weapons.

          You say Russian weapons. Yes, the shells of the MLRS from which the missiles are made were made in Russia, but who supplies them?
          Syria is a hostile state? Name one allied state of Israel from neighbors.
          Netutiti
          1. -6
            8 November 2015 09: 29
            Quote: Tusv
            Name one allied state of Israel from neighbors.

            What do you mean by the word ally? Israel really has no allies in its close circle, I think there is no need to explain the reasons? More recently, we fought with them, and yet the memory has not faded. If we take foreign countries, Israel has many friends and allies.
            1. +6
              8 November 2015 09: 40
              Quote: Hello
              Israel really has no allies in its close circle, I think there is no need to explain the reasons?

              But what did Israel do to make at least one loyal state surrounded?
              1. -5
                8 November 2015 09: 45
                Quote: Tusv
                But what did Israel do to make at least one loyal state surrounded?

                Are you talking about loyal or about allies? These are different things. Egypt and Jordan are loyal to us.
                1. +4
                  8 November 2015 09: 59
                  Quote: Hello
                  Egypt and Jordan are loyal to us.

                  Egypt? They have very reverent feelings for Israel. Take a promotion. Jordan? I do not know, was not. After Khattab, a persistent gag reflex to this state
                  1. -1
                    8 November 2015 10: 04
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Egypt? They have very reverent feelings for Israel. Take a promotion. Jordan? I do not know, was not. After Khattab, a persistent gag reflex to this state

                    Absolutely sideways what feelings they feel there, the main thing is that Egyptian interests coincide in many respects with Israeli ones. And no one had any tremulous feelings for anyone.
                  2. 0
                    8 November 2015 10: 43
                    Yes, I didn’t get out from there at one time. When he was young and poor hi
              2. 0
                9 November 2015 07: 46
                But what did Israel do to make at least one loyal state surrounded?



                We drove them to Lunapark, we bought ice cream that we just didn’t.
                they don’t want to play with us and that’s it ...
          2. +1
            8 November 2015 10: 02
            Quote: Tusv
            Name one allied state of Israel from neighbors.

            Egypt, Jordan. Broaden your horizons, dear
            1. +4
              8 November 2015 10: 12
              Quote: miru mir
              Egypt, Jordan. Broaden your horizons, dear

              Apazdal. My horizons Hello expanded. hi
            2. +3
              8 November 2015 11: 50
              Quote: miru mir
              Egypt, Jordan. Broaden your horizons, dear

              Oh, they made fun, and in which direction do you want to broaden your horizons? Toward Egypt or Jordan? Yes, and in chorus and the same thing, so there were only enemies around.
              1. +1
                8 November 2015 12: 26
                Quote: EvgNik
                Oh, they made fun, and in which direction do you want to broaden your horizons? Toward Egypt or Jordan? Yes, and in chorus and the same thing, so there were only enemies around.

                Paranoia?
                1. +2
                  9 November 2015 07: 47
                  Paranoia?


                  By the way, relapse already.
            3. +2
              8 November 2015 14: 41
              there, half of the population for Muslim brothers, as the elections showed, at one time these guys killed secular Egyptian presidents and Al-Sisi, with all due respect to him, is not immortal and not eternal, especially now when the Egyptian economy is going through bad times and in the Sinai a full-fledged war can it so happens that the military will not hold on to power and the Muslim lads will return what kind of relationship will it be this issue, the same king of Jordan rests only on bayonets and direct support of the states among the people openly hate him and sympathy for erroristam grow
        2. +11
          8 November 2015 10: 14
          Quote: miru mir
          Israel destroys terrorists.
          Israel bombes the enemy state of Syria when it tries to arm Hezbollah terrorists with Russian weapons.


          And also destroys the civilian population, women of old people and children.
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 10: 33
            Where is it? In Syria? Valiant Russian pilots noted?
            1. +4
              8 November 2015 10: 59
              Quote: tilix
              Where is it? In Syria? Valiant Russian pilots noted?


              No, not in Syria, in Palestine. And the saddest thing is, look at the chronicle of the Second World War when the Nazis bombed the peaceful cities of Europe and the parallels themselves loom.


              1. +1
                8 November 2015 11: 54
                Not in Syria? Then probably in the destroyed Grozny. Or in Kabul? Where else have you leveled the face of the earth? List lead? We are up to your destruction to grow and grow.
                And remember, who does not shoot, that will not fall. And if I shot, well, whoever didn’t hide is not my fault.
                1. +3
                  8 November 2015 15: 57
                  Quote: tilix
                  List lead?


                  Well, of course, it would be necessary to cite, just not speculation, but facts, and if there is a better video (if there is something I strongly doubt) The fact is that your media is under the control of the owners from overseas, as they say, one "standard". And the standard is to pour a solid, unsubstantiated lie. Have we seen a lot of truth in the Western media? Ukraine was occupied by Russian troops, the Malossian Boeing is also us, in Syria we are fighting not with terrorists, but with the opposition and the civilian population. When we ask for even one proof, they say you take your word for it. Then it turns out that they had unverified information.
                  1. +1
                    8 November 2015 16: 10
                    Video? And the keys and ears? Start when, from Budapest to 20 or from the 10 century?
                    1. +3
                      8 November 2015 16: 35
                      in Vietnam alone, your beloved ally has killed more than died in all Russian wars over the past 1000 years, so give up this hypocritical pathos
                    2. +2
                      8 November 2015 17: 17
                      Quote: tilix
                      Video? And the keys and ears? Start when, from Budapest to 20 or from the 10 century?


                      Again only threats to show laughing laughing laughing I've provided photos and videos, as they say on the face and facts.
                      But doesn’t it seem to you that the lying policy of yours over the ocean hosts is already playing a very cruel joke with all of you (who supports it) ????? After all, more and more they begin to realize this and as a result they cease to believe (although the truth will sound). It's like a famous parable about a boy and wolves.
                      1. +2
                        8 November 2015 17: 24
                        Well look, the city of Grozny
                      2. +1
                        8 November 2015 17: 32


                        There, the city of Grozny.
                      3. +5
                        8 November 2015 17: 58
                        Quote: tilix
                        There, the city of Grozny.



                        We did not compare Grozny with bombs, as Israeli pilots do (because it’s easier, and most importantly safe). Our army entered Grozny and recaptured it; there were street battles. But you do not conduct a ground operation, it all comes down to the bombing of civilian targets. Why bring in infantry because they can kill. And besides, now we have rebuilt Grozny, he is now better than he was. Have you restored at least one destroyed civilian object that you destroyed in Palestine ?????
                        And what is all the evidence? request
                      4. +1
                        8 November 2015 18: 12
                        But you do not conduct ground operations
                        So they started asking for videos and photos, but when they got started, they started raving? There is the General Staff, my youngest opponent, and if he decided to bomb (like Russia in Syria), they would bomb, and in no other way, they would decide it with infantry, then infantry. Go, learn the materiel, with such a wealth of knowledge you will not even be invited to St. Petersburg to Lena. And here you are at the military forum talking nonsense. Or are they just like that?
                      5. +2
                        8 November 2015 18: 43
                        Quote: tilix
                        So started by asking for videos and photos,


                        So I asked for evidence, but there was none at all, one unfounded chatter, if everything is different according to Western media standards, there is a desire to defame, there is no main evidence.


                        Quote: tilix
                        my youngest opponent


                        From what is this statement, or, as always, just to blurt out.

                        Quote: tilix
                        if he decided to bomb (like Russia in Syria)


                        Russia does not bomb civilians like Israel in Palestine. If there is no evidence to the contrary, it is better not to raise this topic, and the fake that mattresses invented is better not to show (they themselves laugh from him)

                        Quote: tilix
                        Go learn the materiel


                        Another nonsense. What is the mat part in FIG, is it a tank or something? I actually wrote about the strategy.

                        Quote: tilix
                        you will not even be invited to Peter to Lena.

                        Something I honestly do not understand the meaning of what was written (maybe he is of course present) What is Lena and why does she live in St. Petersburg?

                        Quote: tilix
                        Or are they just like that?


                        What makes you think that someone is being held here by force? You also seem to be on the forum and no one is holding you here.
                      6. +1
                        8 November 2015 18: 57
                        one unfounded chatter
                        Why did it happen? And photos and videos from Grozny destroyed by Russia.
                        What is this statement about?
                        If it’s not clear to you when they attack and what, then it’s better for me to think that you are young.
                        Russia does not bomb civilians with bombs
                        So civilians say that yes.

                        And that's what, let's disperse peacefully, I will not talk "about the strategy" with you.
                      7. +2
                        8 November 2015 23: 05
                        Quote: tilix
                        Why did it happen? And photos and videos from Grozny destroyed by Russia.


                        You just don't want to listen. I repeat once again, Grozny was not destroyed by aircraft bombs. and freed by a ground operation from terrorists, then rebuilt, became even better than it was. Grozny residents gathered in the square on the holiday of national unity, waved Russian flags and sang a hymn. it says something.

                        Quote: tilix
                        If it’s not clear to you when they attack and what, then it’s better for me to think that you are young


                        Laughed heartily laughing If my point of view does not coincide with yours, it means young, original (I did not expect such a turn of thought laughing )

                        Quote: tilix
                        So civilians say that yes.


                        I guess the dyke from once, This amnrikosy says that says the civilian population. One can see their handwriting with no armed eyes. They accuse Russia of bombing the moderate opposition (the same word came up with moderate lol ) But they themselves admitted that there were only five of them left and they lost them, but the accusations are made.

                        Quote: tilix
                        And that's what, let's disperse peacefully, I will not talk "about the strategy" with you.


                        Yes, I have not fought with you, I am for world peace and justice.
                      8. -2
                        8 November 2015 17: 38
                        But only Chechnya is Russia and the city of Grozny is our city wanted to be destroyed wanted to be rebuilt, we acted on our territory you are ruining cities in other states
                      9. +2
                        8 November 2015 19: 04
                        They wanted to destroy your relatives, they wanted to destroy a neighbor who drank tea peacefully.
                        He wanted to take a knife and stabbed him with a loaf of bread - and for some reason, our city, whatever we want, is your morality or laws.
                      10. 0
                        8 November 2015 19: 30
                        exactly what happens within our borders applies only to those living here
                      11. +3
                        8 November 2015 19: 34
                        Those would be to a psychiatrist .. fool
                      12. +2
                        8 November 2015 20: 04
                        interesting logic, the inhabitants of Israel climb into the interior of the showdown between Russians and Chechens, but to me a psychiatrist? I’m not getting into your internal affairs. I’m your corrupt power, like your showdown with the Arabs. I’m watching the Kremlin.
                      13. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 15
                        You still do not understand why you need a psychiatrist. Well, okay, don’t strain, it’s bad for you wassat
                      14. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 16
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        interesting logic, the inhabitants of Israel climb into the interior of the showdown between Russians and Chechens, but to me a psychiatrist? I’m not getting into your internal affairs. I’m your corrupt power, like your showdown with the Arabs. I’m watching the Kremlin.

                        Well, you personally climb into the internal showdown of the Israelis with the Arabs. And among Jews, the showdown is much more closely related to Arabs than among Russians - with Chechens
                      15. +2
                        8 November 2015 20: 27
                        so stop! I care about your affairs, but the bases in Syria are already our affairs, not only geopolitically but also in terms of the security of our state
                      16. -3
                        8 November 2015 20: 38
                        You can’t figure it out in your Caucasus, but you don’t need to bother.
                        Therefore, airplanes explode recourse

                        During special operations in the North Caucasus, over the past five years, 875 Russian law enforcement officers have died. This was stated by the head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the North Caucasus Federal District (SKFO) Sergey Chenchik.


                        And how many civilians ..
                      17. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 10
                        under Yeltsin, we lost more than 875 deaths per 5 years more than now in a year? about 30 per year die on our roads in this regard, in this regard, the chance of dying in the Caucasus is much lower than crashed by a car, so progress is huge planes have been blown up everywhere and for a long time, have you heard about Lockerbie? Is Putin to blame?
                      18. -2
                        9 November 2015 19: 50
                        we have about 30 deaths on the roads per year


                        airplanes explode everywhere and for a long time


                        Well, if this does not surprise you and is quite ordinary for you, then there’s nothing to talk about hi
                      19. +2
                        8 November 2015 22: 26
                        Quote: Wiski
                        You can’t figure it out in your Caucasus, but you don’t need to bother.
                        Therefore, airplanes explode


                        In general, matzo, overeating?!? You ... I don’t know what to call ...

                        At the hour when the country mourns the victims of the crash, crawled up, an adder, and you are fooling around over the tragedy?

                        I will duplicate this comment to you in a "personal", and I DEMAND that you remove this vileness YOURSELF, and ASK FOR FORGIVENESS FROM RUSSIA ...

                        DO NOT DO THIS, I will write a complaint to the administration so that they give an assessment.
                      20. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 53
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Well, you personally climb into the internal showdown of the Israelis with the Arabs. And among Jews, the showdown is much more closely related to Arabs than among Russians - with Chechens

                        Yes, just Russians and Jews are real brothers! bully
                        Aramaic brothers! Yes
                        And the corresponding article, confirming this fact, was recently published at the VO ... wink http://topwar.ru/85196-arameyskoe-bratstvo.html#comment-id-5149680
                      21. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 45
                        Quote: andj61
                        Yes, just Russians and Jews are real brothers!
                        Aramaic brothers!
                        And the article corresponding, confirming this fact, was recently published in the VO ... http://topwar.ru/85196-arameyskoe-bratstvo.html#comment-id-5149680

                        So another would argue, stamped his feet
              2. 0
                8 November 2015 11: 59
                Well, yes, of course .. such straightforward "peaceful" cities from which thousands of rockets fly and where Arab militants shoot from behind the backs of women and children, from mosques, hospitals and residential buildings.
                1. +2
                  8 November 2015 17: 47
                  Quote: Wiski
                  Well, yes, of course ... such straightforward "peaceful" cities from which thousands of rockets fly and in which Arab militants shoot from behind the backs of women and children, from mosques, hospitals and residential buildings

                  Naturally, the Arabs answer you the same thing - after the Jewish occupation of Arab land after the brutal bombing and shelling of their cities and houses by the Israeli military after the assassination of your army of Arab children, women and the elderly.
                  Or did you expect something else after those terrible crimes that you committed against the Arabs?
                  1. +3
                    8 November 2015 19: 09
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    after the Jewish occupation of Arab land after the brutal bombing and shelling of their cities and houses by the Israeli military after your army killed Arab children, women and the elderly.



                    Oh, I’m crying straight. The losses are quite normal due to the fact that terrorists hide behind civilians, do not let them leave, shoot from houses and mosques with hospitals.

                    When an Arab terrorist shoots out of a house with children and women and a rocket flies in to destroy him, it’s not Israel’s fault.

                    For so many years of conflict, the number of victims is quite acceptable.

                    Occupation of the Arab land .. what land? By what right? Did they have sovereignty there? no. Have they adopted a resolution on division? No. They went to kill the Jews and many times- YES.
                  2. -1
                    8 November 2015 21: 20
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    terrible crimes


                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    after brutal bombing

                    You would, mahmud, change the manuals, scorching black laughing The same sad and deceitful cries. Ugh ...
            2. +1
              8 November 2015 12: 26
              Oh, the minuscars have flown. Does it hurt when you are true then in the face?
              Yeah, it’s not for you a helpless Jew to break off the pace.
              1. +1
                8 November 2015 15: 32
                choose the expression x-o. and in terrible, so they themselves to blame Russian soldiers.
              2. +5
                8 November 2015 20: 55
                Quote: tilix
                Oh, the minuscars have flown. Does it hurt when you are true then in the face?
                Yeah, it’s not for you a helpless Jew to break off the pace.


                We know, we know how helpless you are ... wink
                1. +2
                  8 November 2015 21: 03
                  Thank you dear, but here, below, a noble Siberian hunter wrestler, boasts that he had fun.
                  1. +1
                    8 November 2015 21: 14
                    Quote: tilix
                    Thank you dear, but here, below, a noble Siberian hunter wrestler, boasts that he had fun.

                    Yes, I read your mutual posts - this is something with something! And I am, in irony ..
                    Something again organized in Sunday srach organized, but out of the blue.
                    1. +1
                      8 November 2015 21: 18
                      No, out of the blue does not happen,
                      Themes with development (Sracha): Israel, Jewish manifestation, f-35.
                      if the topic does not grow, we invest one of the previous ones. Something like this...
                      1. +1
                        8 November 2015 22: 07
                        Quote: tilix
                        No, out of the blue does not happen,
                        Themes with development (Sracha): Israel, Jewish manifestation, f-35.
                        if the topic does not grow, we invest one of the previous ones. Something like this...

                        good hi
            3. +3
              8 November 2015 14: 42
              Russian pilots do not bomb children we are not Jews
            4. +2
              8 November 2015 22: 18
              Absolutely moron? ((((
          2. 0
            8 November 2015 10: 46
            http://izrus.co.il/obshie_novosti/news/2015-05-27/94540.html
            Basically, the warriors of Allah of their various and diverse terrorist organizations. There are many of them in Finland.
          3. -10
            8 November 2015 11: 55
            Show footage of the Chechen war?
            Or can he talk about the massacre in the new Alds by Russian special forces?


            I think not worth it. But what is worth understanding is a simple thing, given the density of the territory, given that before any shelling, Israel throws out leaflets, calls, throws SMS, throws warning mini "bombs-bombs" that warn that you need to leave the place and will soon be bombed and Most importantly, Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians, shoot from mosques, schools, hospitals, houses, store ammunition under the houses of civilians and launch rockets from densely populated areas, then such losses of civilians are quite normal, and I would say very low. Americans visit us in Israel to understand how to avoid the loss of civilians in densely populated areas. Not to mention the fact that Israel is using precision weapons.

            Anyone can show such photos, but this is propaganda and nothing more.

            Not to mention the fact that there are a lot of cases when the Arabs themselves killed their own because of problems with missiles and other things

            For example, a rocket launched by Hamas in the direction of Tel Aviv exploded near the Shifa hospital in Gaza, falling into a kindergarten. 5 children were killed, dozens were injured.




            So those killed (if at all since the Arabs are known for staging) could well have died at the hands of the Arabs themselves, given that approximately 20-30 percent of Hamas missiles fell or exploded inside the Gaza Strip
            1. +4
              8 November 2015 12: 18
              Show footage of the Chechen war? ,,
              you really show the LPR and the DPR, the fierce defenders of the ukrofashists. and the fact that you have come to know the enemies, blame yourself.
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 12: 22
                Israel has never defended ukrofashistov. You stupid attacks No.
              2. +1
                8 November 2015 12: 29
                Is it you who are now telling us about the enemies that you’ve been carrying? Tell us about your neurons?
                1. -1
                  8 November 2015 14: 46
                  China Kazakhstan Korea Belarus Armenia
                2. +3
                  8 November 2015 15: 35
                  friends - more than yours
            2. +5
              8 November 2015 14: 47
              recall how the Chechen war began? recall that Russia granted Chechnya freedom and independence and they climbed into Dagestan?
            3. +2
              8 November 2015 15: 34
              show and prove that the special forces and not the militants themselves, just like your gas?
            4. +4
              8 November 2015 17: 51
              Show footage of the Chechen war?
              Or can he talk about the massacre in the new Alds by Russian special forces?

              You were there?
              before any shelling, Israel throws out leaflets, calls, throws SMS, throws warning mini "bombs"

              Before any execution, a sentence is read.
              And from your SMS, what's the use? Present as proof or is it a code to the account where you compensate for the destroyed house, where 15-20 families of 15 people lived (by the way, where do they live now? And is your foresight now on the drum). And all your SMS flyers are the same hypocrisy, you do not scatter them for them, but try to make excuses to the world for your crimes. Tell me why you did not have enough territory that you were given for the formation of the state, why did you take a chance on someone else's?
              I didn’t want, by God, they brought the absurdity rabid. Not all protections in discussions are appropriate.
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 18: 00
                Tell me why you did not have enough territory
                Wrong question.
                Ask your protégés why they did not accept the partition plan in 1948, why they constantly attacked Israel 1948,1956,1967, 1974, and when they lost, they were suddenly at a loss.
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      4. +3
        8 November 2015 10: 15
        Quote: Igor39
        Israel helps the Syrian terrorists, nonsense, Israel bombes a sovereign state, nonsense, Israel kills Palestinians and destroys their property, also nonsense. Well, where isn’t nonsense then?


        Neil in Gaza is true.
    3. gjv
      +10
      8 November 2015 08: 07
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Let the anti-Semites be amuse themselves without us.

      What fun without fascist Zionists?
      Not all Jews are ardent Zionist Semites.
      However, the Zionists rule the ball there.
      1. -8
        8 November 2015 08: 59
        Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose purpose is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Israel)
        1. +3
          8 November 2015 09: 39
          Quote: miru mir
          Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose purpose is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Israel)

          Quote from a Jew from the movie Brother 2:
          "......... Homeland! Today homeland is where the ass is warm, and you know it better than me!"
          And that's it....
          1. +3
            8 November 2015 10: 04
            Well, if you take the film as the basis of life, that’s the truth.
        2. 0
          8 November 2015 14: 45
          not a very popular movement with you as I see, while yours prefer to love Israel from hated Russia
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    5. +4
      8 November 2015 08: 39
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense

      For three quarters of a century, Israel has existed - there haven’t been more friends, but, on the contrary, there are enemies around. What kind of policy do you have?
    6. +8
      8 November 2015 08: 40
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense. Let the anti-Semites be amuse themselves without us.

      Respected! I have always been prejudiced against URP patriots, I carefully read comments from Israel, because the main thing is to get truthful information from the scene, but I'm sorry, after Netanyahu’s secret visits to Moscow, after the Americans betrayed Israel’s interests, one would think that Israel would remain at least neutral. I think that now we can safely supply long-range air defense systems not only to Iran, but also to Syria. And I think that we should look for the trail of Israel in the tragedy of the A-321 aircraft.
      1. -4
        8 November 2015 09: 01
        Bgyyy ... It’s very habitual and convenient, I am the blame for everything.
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 14: 49
          you don’t need to remember about you only when you start poking your nose into Russian affairs
      2. -4
        8 November 2015 11: 38
        Tsar Bell mute, shaky,
        The Tsar Cannon does not shoot, the mother of the child;
        and it’s clear that the Jews are to blame,
        it remains only to find the annals.
    7. +3
      8 November 2015 08: 42
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense.

      Oh, I want to in the field laughing Sunday gag, produce:
    8. +2
      8 November 2015 09: 38
      "IZYA! Look" OUR "pull up!"
    9. +3
      8 November 2015 12: 20
      branding them all immediately with anti-Semites is an old Jewish strategy, but facts are stubborn.
      1. +2
        8 November 2015 12: 56
        immediately condemn all anti-Semites

        Of course, if you would have written clever here, we would have made you smart, and so antesimites, what can you do!
        By the way, this is still garbage, here on the site and the forum, too, you’ll post news about disasters in Russia (not such garbage as this article), you automatically become a Russophobe!
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 20: 33
          Dan4eG:
          And what are you, my dear man, right under the two nicknames rummage now on the forum? Ural-Chel, too, are you?
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 20: 56
            Quote: Kuzyakin15
            Dan4eG:
            And what are you, my dear man, right under the two nicknames rummage now on the forum? Ural-Chel, too, are you?

            belay you confuse something! I'm on the forum and here under the same name! and it's all! ask modders!
  6. 0
    8 November 2015 06: 58
    Not a day without stuffing. fellow
    Well it is necessary what Spaniards fellows determine from photographs of terrorists, a show of psychics resting. wassat
    - The annexation of the Syrian Golan Heights, rich in water sources and the implementation of control over the water resources of neighboring countries. It should be noted that the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq and Syria are under the control of jihadists. According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to cut off the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

    According to another plan developed after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and called Oranim, it is planned to create a so-called “hydraulic safety zone” to control Lebanon’s water resources. It should be noted that NATO also considered similar plans in 2011.


    I cried "speezalists" seen from afar, especially about the Nile in Gaza I liked it.
    A small Jewish state can become a superpower if there are three elements: territory, oil, and water. All these elements are in neighboring countries.

    wassat What are they smoking in the editorial office?
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 08: 54
      Quote: Hello
      I cried "speezalists" seen from afar, especially about the Nile in Gaza I liked it.

      Quote: Hello
      it is planned to block the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

      Brilliant ...
      And with a lake in the USA and Canada, they did not try to block access to Gaza.
      Truly "great thoughts" roam the minds of THINKERS.
      --------------------
      Oh yes ... I forgot, there is also water on Mars ... it also needs to .... shut off
      --------------------
      Abram - you heard what they say:
      - NASA representatives said they still do not have reliable information on whether there is water on Mars.
      “According to them, the accident was the fault in which the Spirit research apparatus fell.” He drowned.
      Sarah, I beg you, do not even think to tell anyone else about this ...
      - Again blame the Jews ...

      Well, what can I say here ... it remains only to scratch the back of the head
    2. +1
      8 November 2015 09: 03
      Quote: Hello
      What are they smoking in the editorial office?

      This is not a smoke. Only from intravenous can so stick.
      1. +4
        8 November 2015 09: 09
        Quote: miru mir
        This is not a smoke. Only from intravenous can so stick.

        I cried about the Jewish superpower, 8 million Jews will put the whole world in a knee-elbow pose. laughing A sense of inferiority or what? request
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 10: 06
          Quote: Hello
          A sense of inferiority or what?

          I do not know. But judging by the comments, something is out of order in the minds of many Russians, definitely.
    3. +5
      8 November 2015 12: 54
      Quote: Hello
      I cried "speezalists" seen from afar, especially about the Nile in Gaza I liked it.

      Quote: atalef
      Neil in Gaza is true.

      ..

      Quote: Author
      According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to block the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

      Well, the author got a little messy (either the Nubian aquifer, or the aquifer of the Jordan River).
      But most likely associated the Egyptians (no matter which) and R. Neil.
      The point is this (if we ignore the control of the river Nile by Israel)


      1.Gas sector:
      There is only one source of fresh water in Gaza - the coastal aquifer that is underground.
      It is also used by Israel and Egypt. Since Gaza’s water intake is located downstream, Israel can control the flow of water and prevent the source from replenishing naturally.


      At a distance of several hundred meters from the sea, fresh water is at a depth of forty centimeters, then the aquifer abruptly goes down. It is this narrow coastal strip, the most fertile in the entire Gaza Strip, and occupied and control the Egyptian Bedouin tribe of Muashi almost the entire coast.
      in 1972, before the Yom Kippur War, when Sinai was still yours. From Egypt, several Bedouin families from this tribe came to the area of ​​Jewish settlements under construction. Jews joyfully gave them a job.
      The Egyptian Bedouins were considered loyal to the Israeli authorities: they hate the Egyptian-Fellahs with fierce hatred and the Egyptian administration pays them the same.
      At the moment, the number of Muasi is, according to the settlers of Gush Katif, from 50 to 70 thousand.


      2.


      3. Israel has declared the Gaza Strip "hostile territory" (in 2007, it seems)
      Following the official declaration of the Gaza Strip as a "hostile territory", Israel may declare that it should no longer obey the provisions of international law and supply water, electricity and fuel to 1,5 million people in the Gaza Strip.
      4.With water in the gas sector - "pipe":
      1. +1
        8 November 2015 13: 12
        Quote: opus

        3. Israel has declared the Gaza Strip "hostile territory" (in 2007, it seems)
        After the official declaration of the Gaza Strip as a "hostile territory", Israel may declare that it should no longer obey the provisions of international law and supply water, electricity and fuel to 1,5 million residents of the Gaza Strip.
        4.With water in the gas sector - "pipe":

        It seems to be possible but for some reason continues to supply water and electricity and medicines.
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 13: 15
          for some reason continues to supply
          But he could cut with a razor.
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 15: 42
            two handles
        2. +3
          8 November 2015 13: 52
          Quote: Hello
          It seems to be possible but for some reason continues to supply water and electricity and medicines.

          The most amazing thing is that it delivers completely free. But international law does not require this at all. And after the seizure of power in Gaza by Hamas militants, it resembles sponsoring terrorists ... request
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 13: 55
            That is, would you suggest that 100% of the population of Gaza are terrorists? If not, then this is a humanitarian aid with which I personally disagree, but there is a reason for its delivery.
            1. +4
              8 November 2015 14: 56
              Quote: tilix
              That is, would you suggest that 100% of the population of Gaza are terrorists? If not, then this is a humanitarian aid with which I personally disagree, but there is a reason for its delivery.

              1. Humanitarian assistance may be a one-time action, or from time to time, but not continuously for a long time. Nobody pays to pay for electricity and water, and is not going to pay, but they are worth the money!
              2. With the help of free electricity and water, the infrastructure of terrorists is being built - isn’t that so?
              So let's do this: flies separately, and cutlets - separately.
              Too much your leadership listens to "international public opinion"! And terrorists use this to their advantage - you know examples even better than I do.
              1. +4
                8 November 2015 14: 58
                Quote: andj61
                Too much your leadership listens to "international public opinion"! And terrorists use this to their advantage - you know examples even better than I do.

                Absolutely agree Yes
              2. +4
                8 November 2015 15: 33
                And terrorists take advantage of this

                A holy place is never empty. I have already said. I don’t agree with such a decision, since how many terrorists do not feed ... on the other hand, how much Russia has invested in Chechnya, and it helped.
                1. 0
                  8 November 2015 15: 43
                  We don’t have so much. Yes, and it helped, not exactly said. As soon as Allah runs out of money for subsidies, the situation will radically change.
                  1. +2
                    8 November 2015 16: 12
                    It's not a no. We will not allow it. IMHO.
                  2. +1
                    8 November 2015 16: 35
                    Quote: miru mir
                    We don’t have so much. Yes, and it helped, not exactly said. As soon as Allah runs out of money for subsidies, the situation will radically change.

                    It is unlikely. Here psychology plays a big role. Chechens are warriors. And they faced warriors there too. Yes, and ours - in the second Chechen - did not look back at "international public opinion" to the same extent as in Israel when they decided to close this issue. And for the money - in Chechnya, probably the best oil in the world is produced for the production of all kinds of lubricants. They made it possible to keep the income from oil production and refining with them - it paid off.
                    In Israel it was also possible to follow approximately the same path - there are hydrocarbon deposits - to create the same "pillow". The government has no will - to solve this issue once and for all. After all, then it will turn out that they left Gaza in vain ...
                    But all the same, someday the Israeli government will be confronted with the need to resolve this issue.
                    1. +2
                      8 November 2015 16: 49
                      I already wrote to you that sometimes you just have great posts? Part I two hands behind. good
                    2. +1
                      8 November 2015 18: 18
                      Quote: andj61
                      In Israel it was also possible to follow approximately the same path - there are hydrocarbon deposits - to create the same "pillow". The government has no will - to solve this issue once and for all. After all, then it will turn out that they left Gaza in vain ...

                      How naive you are
                      1. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 02
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Quote: andj61
                        In Israel it was also possible to follow approximately the same path - there are hydrocarbon deposits - to create the same "pillow". The government has no will - to solve this issue once and for all. After all, then it will turn out that they left Gaza in vain ...

                        How naive you are

                        That is - in your opinion - the will of the Government of Israel is enough? what
                        This is what distinguishes writing posts from realpolitiks - the ability to express their light, even unpleasant - for someone - and almost impossible to implement in a harsh reality. Yes
                        In Chechnya, the situation was much worse than that of Israel with the "Palestinians" - but as soon as one person at the helm showed will - and - I hope - it worked. There would be no will - until now babakhs would run there in the mountains.
                      2. 0
                        8 November 2015 21: 47
                        Quote: andj61
                        In Chechnya, the situation was much worse than that of Israel with the "Palestinians" - but as soon as one person at the helm showed will - and - I hope - it worked. There would be no will - until now babakhs would run there in the mountains.

                        In fact, no. Russia still remained Russia and sat in the UN Security Council with veto power
            2. +4
              8 November 2015 15: 04
              Let the population of gases be provided by the Hamas chosen by this population.
          2. +2
            8 November 2015 14: 32
            Quote: andj61
            The most amazing thing is that it delivers completely free. But international law does not require this at all. And after the seizure of power in Gaza by Hamas militants, it resembles sponsoring terrorists ...

            I'm not sure I can answer without a mat, but I will try. Our Israeli government, with a tenacity worthy of a better application, has been supplying Gaza. On the one hand, we refuse to supply us will be branded the world together, on the other hand it’s no secret that Hamas uses a lot of supplies for military operations. That is, we ourselves feed the enemy. The reason here is what, in my opinion, is not a thoughtful way out of the sector in 2006, then the government’s inability to think one step further in 2007,2008,2009,2011 and 2013. Each time the same thing starts, the operation will begin and how they will start shouting in Washington we turn it off, but we don’t finish it. It seems like without a mat wink In general, I wholeheartedly love politicians of all stripes.
            1. +4
              8 November 2015 14: 59
              Quote: Hello
              . Each time we start the same operation and how to start screaming in Washington we turn it off and don't finish it. It seems like without a mat.

              good I’ll also add my five cents: instead of destroying terrorists ONCE, Israel creates such wonders of technological thought as the Iron Dome — this is only to protect its population. And after all, this can be done easier and cheaper - and any commander in the army is well aware that this requires only political will - and nothing more!
              1. +3
                8 November 2015 15: 07
                Quote: andj61

                I’ll also add my five cents: instead of destroying terrorists ONCE, Israel creates such wonders of technological thought as the Iron Dome — this is only to protect its population. And after all, this can be done easier and cheaper - and any commander in the army is well aware that this requires only political will - and nothing more!

                The iron dome is a good thing, but as you know, sitting on the defensive cannot be seen much. An attack should follow the defense, and something should be glued with it. I would be glad to disagree with you, but you are absolutely right lately there is no political will on Gaza. Every time I return home after another operation, I feel like spat upon. Everything is in the army and people are ready to work and there is technology and work to give. Sadly request
          3. +4
            8 November 2015 15: 02
            Quote: andj61
            And after the seizure of power in Gaza by Hamas militants, it resembles sponsoring terrorists ...

            And you will be right. These are the only terrorists sponsored by Israel.
      2. +1
        8 November 2015 13: 21
        With water in the gas sector - "pipe":
        Israel desalinates its drinking water, who prevents the Arabs from desalinating it? It seems the same sea. And the Arabs have a lot of money.
        But it’s more important for them to buy weapons in order to kill another infidel. And accomplices to them all sorts of liberals of different varieties and stripes, they are children.
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 13: 31
          Quote: Hello
          It seems to be possible but for some reason continues to supply water and electricity and medicines.

          The UN continues to consider the Gaza Strip occupied by Israel, the US State Department (your opinion is important to him)
          The UN position
          In February 2008, Secretary-General Ban was asked at a media availability whether Gaza is occupied territory. "I am not in a position to say on these legal matters", he responded.
          The next day, at a press briefing, a reporter pointed out to a UN spokesman that the secretary-general had told Arab League representatives that Gaza was still considered occupied.
          "Yes, the UN defines Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem as Occupied Palestinian Territory. No, that definition hasn't changed ”, the spokesman replied.
          Farhan Haq, spokesman for the secretary-general, told CNN Monday that the official status of Gaza would change only through a decision of the UN Security Council.
          The US position
          [...] The US State Department Web site also includes Gaza when it discusses the "occupied" territories. State Department spokeswoman Amanda Harper referred CNN Monday to the department's Web site for any questions about the status of Gaza, and she noted that the Web site referred to the 2005 disengagement. When asked the department's position on whether Gaza is still occupied, Harper said she would look into it.

          =============================
          Well, worry about the occupied territory

          Quote: tilix
          Israel desalinates its drinking water, who prevents the Arabs from desalinating it?

          not all, but only part



          Arabs and desalinate (UAE, Saudi Arabia)
          In the gas sector, this is not possible, under 2 million refugees of rogue
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 13: 39
            UN continues to count
            And are you telling me from Russia about the UN? Or the UN sucks only when anti-Russian resolutions are adopted
            gas sector it is not possible
            Why is it impossible? Digging is possible? Is it possible to launch rockets? Is it possible to blow up civilians?
            And about the equifer, your data is incorrect. There is a separate lens. In fact, there are several. And they just reused it, but because it is salted from the sea. With good rains, it desolonizes for several years.
            1. +3
              8 November 2015 14: 15
              Quote: tilix
              And are you telling me from Russia about the UN?

              From Russia, but I don't "tell" anything.
              This is a fact. And not only the UN, but the State Department of your friends.
              Quote: tilix
              when anti-Russian resolutions are adopted

              well, well.
              What are these anti-Russian UN resolutions?
              acre UN 68/262 (Code: A/RES/68/262) I don't know of any.

              Threat on 68/262 24 UN member countries did not vote: Belize, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Republic of the Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Equatorial Guinea, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau, Iran, Israel, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Morocco, Oman, Serbia, Tajikistan, East Timor, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Yemen.

              UN General Assembly resolutions have recommendatory, unlike the UN Security Council.

              But r. from the UN Security Council mandatory :
              UN Security Council No. 478, resolutions 252 (1968), 267 (1969), 271 (1969), 298 (1971), 465 (1980) and 476 (1980), 242 from November 22 on November 1967, well, and so on ...
              You can wipe this piece of paper,

              if you want to listen to stories (
              Quote: tilix
              from Russia tell about the UN?
              )

              Quote: tilix
              Why is it impossible?

              technically.
              There are simply no areas.
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 15: 06
                Why are you writing lies and being impudent or just showing yourself to those who do not understand what they are writing.
                Not all UN Security Council resolutions are binding. Moreover, not a single resolution regarding Israel is binding.

                For example, consider resolution 242
                Israel’s failure to comply with the requirements of the resolution is also facilitated by the fact that the decision of the UN Security Council is only advisory in nature, because it was made with reference to Chapter VI of the UN Charter “Peaceful Settlement of Disputes”. Article 36 of this chapter, paragraph 1, defines the terms of reference of the Security Council in its actions under this article:

                “The Security Council is authorized at any stage of the dispute, having the character specified in Article 33, or a situation of a similar nature, to recommend a proper procedure or methods of settlement.”

                Learn the mat part before you make people laugh bully
                1. +2
                  8 November 2015 15: 46
                  Quote: Wiski
                  Why are you writing lies and being impudent or just showing yourself to those

                  Always "touched" by the heart-rending squeal of the "sons of Israel"

                  Check out:

                  Quote: Wiski
                  Learn the mat part before you make people laugh

                  Silly foul phrase (usually used by illiterate people)

                  DUTY OF RESOLUTIONS OF THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PRINCIPLE OF NON-INTERFERENCE IN THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF STATES
                  it says here:


                  Article 25 of the Charter of the United Nations states that all members of the United Nations "agree, in accordance with this Charter, obey and implement Security Council decisions". Information on how this provision was considered in the Council can be found in the “Handbook” (see “Functions and Powers”, article 25).

                  chewed here:
                  1. +1
                    8 November 2015 16: 16
                    Again, write ignorant stupidity.
                    I gave you an example regarding the resolution, but you again pull out from different places, but the essence does not change and I'm right.

                    The decision of the UN Security Council is not binding if it refers to Chapter VI of the UN Charter “Peaceful Settlement of Disputes”. Article 36 of this chapter, paragraph 1, defines the terms of reference of the Security Council in its actions under this article:

                    “The Security Council is authorized at any stage of the dispute, having the character specified in Article 33, or a situation of a similar nature, to recommend a proper procedure or methods of settlement.”

                    This is recognized by all lawyers, both Russian and any. Therefore, your attempt again past the checkout.

                    By the way, your right is shown at the bottom of your link - you shot yourself in the leg.




                    According to the UN Charter, the Security Council can make decisions (Articles 39, 41, 42) and recommendations (Articles 36, 39, 40). Security Council decisions are binding on States, while recommendations are not7. The recommendations can be considered as an expression of the opinion of an authoritative international body, as a prerequisite for the legitimacy of the state’s activities in accordance with the requirements of the resolution8, or even serve as a confirmation of the validity of the use of force in self-defense (resolution 83 (1950)) 9. The UN Charter does not fix specific sanctions for non-compliance with recommendations, however, the Council has the right to take into account the fact of non-compliance (Article 40).
              2. +1
                8 November 2015 15: 39
                There are simply no areas.
                About UN you replied, but about no squares, if you please chat nonsense. There are enough, such factories do not occupy a large area, we have three already. Moreover, for such a thing, Egypt will give them a place.
                1. +3
                  8 November 2015 15: 52
                  Quote: tilix
                  About UN you replied,

                  his answer is not even worth reading.
                  Tk this is the stupidity of a narcissistic illiterate citizen of Israel.
                  Quote: tilix
                  There are enough such plants do not occupy a large area; we already have three.

                  I "failed" (did not have time to fix it).
                  Not only squares (they are the same)



                  Abu Dhabi Environmental Agency (EAD) is building 30 solar desalination plants in the emirate, and 20 of them have already been commissioned.
                  Each plant produces about 1100 liters of pure water per hour, which is an average of 6600 liters per day

                  but also power and financial. no them.

                  The United States will not give them osmosis

                  Carlsbad Desalination Project, whose value is estimated at 1 billion US dollarswill help provide safe drinking water 300 thousand people in southern California.
                  (what is 0,3 million? for gas)





                  [img] http://carlsbaddesal.com/Websites/carlsbaddesal/PhotoGallery/3397880/projec
                  t_aerial.jpg? 20907 [/ img]


                  Quote: tilix
                  we have three already

                  If the State Department detached S. Gaza every year for $ 3-10 billion, then S. Gaza would have already had 5 of these probably (in alluvial, probably)

                  Quote: tilix
                  Moreover, for such a thing, Egypt will give them a place.

                  Egypt itself "refused" from the Gaza Strip (well, you remember), they do not need them, they have enough of their own troublemakers
                  1. +3
                    8 November 2015 16: 21
                    Egypt itself "abandoned" the Gaza Strip
                    You have no idea on what subsidies your favorite "gazans" are sitting. They should turn this money into desalination plants, but no, they are digging.
                    By the way, 300 million euros received by Abu Mazen for the construction of a desalination plant in Gaza. In 2011 year. And where is the money? And where is the desalination plant?

                    Do you also want from the State Department? How much did you (Russia) give to Syria? Billion dollars? And what, there are desalination plants? I tell you again, take the people of Gaza for their minds, and if they started to arrange their place, everyone would help. By the way, the Egyptians offered them a huge area in return for calming down, but no, they don’t want to. More important than the wrong to kill. What you do not understand yet, that you are also infidels, and it will reach you.
                    1. +1
                      8 November 2015 16: 40
                      in Syria there is a war of 4 years imposed from outside it is now not up to desalination plants, the survival of non-Sunni movements and Kurds is in question
                    2. +2
                      8 November 2015 16: 59
                      Quote: tilix
                      You have no idea on what subsidies your favorite "gazans" are sitting.

                      1. Not "loved" by me. I'm Arabs (and even more so this thread) ... mmm, let's put it mildly, not "very" / I won't sit next to you. exactly.
                      2. What about? enlighten!
                      Quote: tilix
                      Do you also want from the State Department?

                      not. I don’t need anything from them. I hope the majority of the people of my homeland do the same.
                      Quote: tilix
                      And what, there are desalination plants?

                      And why do they (the Syrians) need "desalination plants"?
                      Return:


                      Resolution 497 of the UN Security Council of December 17, 1981 (this is your "smart" Jewish boy with the nickname of low-grade drink)

                      After the "help" of the State Department and Israel, Syria has it.

                      The same would be with desalination plants

                      1. +1
                        8 November 2015 17: 03
                        About
                        Quote: tilix
                        they are digging.
                        and "loved ones" I want to note:
                        the so-called terrorism (
                        Quote: tilix
                        Is it possible to launch rockets? Is it possible to blow up civilians?
                        )
                        whose cow would mumble, and a Jewish one would rather be silent (on terrorism).
                        Irgun, Lehi,

                        Brit ha-kanaim, ha-mahteret ha-yehudit



                        (Sow the wind, reap the storm)

                        1948.04.09 Deir Yassin. Massacre by Jews of the unarmed civilian Arab population in Palestine. A detachment of Jewish terrorists from the Irgun organization (chief - future Prime Minister of Israel Menachem Begin)

                        cut out the entire population (253 killed), houses were blown up with dynamite, corpses were thrown into wells. The cruelty of the killers did not lag behind the Old Testament examples: pregnant women had their stomachs ripped open, children of all ages, starting from infants, were killed without exception.
                      2. +1
                        8 November 2015 17: 10
                        So you would be silent, have you already calculated how many civilians in Chechnya were killed? In all wars we won’t get so much. Deir Yassin - so what? There was a war, and who didn’t hide, and I shot it was not my fault. Ask your military, about Chechnya, about Dagestan, about Afghanistan - if you have little information read artifor. Not yet. Whoever raises a weapon should not cry when he receives an answer.
                        Here's an example: On April 13, Arab paramilitary forces attacked a medical convoy at Hadassah Hospital on Mount Scopus [3]. As a result of the attack, seventy-nine Jews, mostly doctors and nurses, as well as one British soldier, were killed, including in the set fire to buses. This massacre was not condemned or mentioned by you.
                        So let your cow, if something of decency is left in it, is silent on this topic, especially since your numbers are incorrect.
                        The cruelty of the killers did not lag behind the Old Testament examples
                        What is your concern? Why did Grishka Otrepiy get killed? Yes, how cruel it is.
                      3. 0
                        8 November 2015 17: 43
                        the Chechen part of Russia in Dagestan was not in Afghanistan; the legitimate government called us
                      4. +4
                        8 November 2015 18: 11
                        Quote: tilix
                        Have you already calculated how many civilians in Chechnya you killed?

                        How many?
                        Just do not need the data of the Human Rights Center "Memorial".
                        This is the same as Pssaku quote. or the old prostitute Nuland.
                        =============================
                        1.In 1992, the Chechen Republic lived aboutnumber of 1 million permanent residents.
                        2. According to minimal estimates, in March 2000, about 300 thousand people remained in all settlements of Chechnya. According to the registration held in August 2000 in connection with the election of a deputy to the State Duma of Chechnya, there were more than 400 thousand people over the age of 18 on its territory.
                        According to the Moscow authorities, 573,9 thousand people live in Chechnya, according to the passport and visa service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - 995,5 thousand, according to local administrations - 1166,3 thousand, according to the Danish Council for Refugees - 733,9 thousand, according to According to the results of the registration of the State Committee on Statistics at the beginning of 2002, 574 thousand people lived in the republic. According to experts (Chechnya in "peaceful" figures // Economy and Life. South. —No.22. -November 2001. -S. 12; and migration of the population of the Russian Federation in 2001. - M: Goskomstat, 2002. -S.15.), in November 2001, 610 thousand people lived in the republic ...
                        Cool, yeah?
                        Scary figures

                        -According to rough estimates, about 20 thousand people were executed in Chechnya for the 1990s
                        -The share of Russians in the population of the Chechen Republic decreased from 25,0% to 1,3%, or more than 30 times! The estimated Russian population in the region decreased during the 1990s by at least 280-300 thousand people. By the beginning of 1999, no more than 30-50 thousand Russians remained in Chechnya, and by 2001 there remained in the republic only 10 thousand Russians.


                        Count yourself

                        ===============================
                        Before the outbreak of hostilities in 1948, about 1 million 250 thousand Arabs lived in Palestine, of which 750 thousand Arabs lived in territories reserved for the Jewish state and territories reserved for the Arab state conquered by Israel during the war. During the War of Independence, about 600 thousand Arabs - residents of Palestine left their homes located in the territory defined, according to the UN resolution, for the Jewish state and part of the territory defined under the Arab state.

                        Israeli authorities refused to let refugees back to their places of residence after the war, and the land and real estate of refugees was confiscated by the state of Israel.
                        Al-Nakba

                        Remind you of your friends of the Lebanese Christian phalangists, Sabra and Shatila .. and the strange impotence of the IDF (not to occupy West Beirut, it was a potential, but to consider (and may be directly involved) the massacre)?
                      5. +1
                        8 November 2015 18: 22
                        Just do not need the data of the Human Rights Center "Memorial".
                        Why not? Only him will be. Do you take Palestinian sources? So Memorial. I'll see it now.
                        Attention: According to the international organization Amnesty International (2007), up to 25 thousands of civilians died in the war (Second).
                        In the first: About 26 thousand people died during the year of hostilities, of which 2 thousand Russian troops and 10 — 15 thousand militants, the rest are civilians (that is, from 9 to 14 thousand).

                        600 Thousands of Arabs - Palestinians Left their Homes
                        Why did they run away? They listened to the Arab leadership who begged them to escape. Let the Arab leadership take care of them. Those who do not run away and succeed, we will take care of them. Instead, we received Jews from the same countries.

                        Remind you of your Lebanese Christian friends
                        You have a one-sided look, everyone cuts one another there, and when we stood up for the Lebanese Christians and practically saved them, did it hurt you?
                      6. +3
                        8 November 2015 19: 08
                        Quote: tilix
                        Why not? Only him will be. Do you take Palestinian sources?

                        1. Better take Pssaki or Nuland.
                        2. I do not take Palestinian sources.
                        3 (!) Be friends with arithmetic? *
                        just count. Figures cited.
                        The memorial is blown away.
                        Moreover, the number of refugees from Chechnya must be deducted (East and Europe)
                        With the "memorial" figures WELL WILL NOT COUNT IN ANY way
                        Quote: tilix
                        Those who do not run away and succeed, we will take care of them. Instead, we received Jews from the same countries.

                        aha "take care".
                        they took the Hebrew, the stump is clear, and for this they expelled the Arabs.
                        If you care so much about Chechnya, so ask Chechens.
                        Or compare Chechnya:

                        with the territories you occupied


                        Quote: tilix
                        You have a one-sided look

                        Not mine.
                        I’ve forgotten about Sabra and Shatila (I generally thought that Papa Assad got dirty there: well, that story is the upper / lower teeth of girls at school, etc.)
                        I just recently read a FRENCH book about this.
                        This is their look
                      7. +1
                        8 November 2015 19: 19
                        According to estimates of the Union of Committees of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia, official figures on human losses in the second Chechen war are underestimated at least twice (approximately the same as happened during the first Chechen campaign).

                        about refugees:

                        You already returned them, huh?
                      8. +2
                        8 November 2015 19: 35
                        The committee of soldiers' mothers is not the 16-year-old stsukuhi who are also members of the free friday and go to the American embassy for salaries?
                      9. +3
                        8 November 2015 19: 30
                        Quote: opus
                        Not mine.
                        I’ve forgotten about Sabra and Shatila (I generally thought that Papa Assad got dirty there: well, that story is the upper / lower teeth of girls at school, etc.)
                        I just recently read a FRENCH book about this.
                        This is their look

                        Oh, can I play this game too? The photos show the "blockade" Gaza







                        I can dig a few dozen photos of luxurious beaches and markets, rich multi-storey houses and villas, and much more.

                        As for Grozny, I can find modern photographs where there are still holes from bullets and shells on the houses - but I won’t. There, instead of a normal state, they decided to build a gangster-and received.

                        But I will add one thing: my friend there is engaged in the social rehabilitation of children, adolescents and youth. So the stories there are not too flattering if desired - mountains
                      10. +1
                        9 November 2015 10: 55
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Oh, can I play this game too? The photos show the "blockade" Gaza

                        1.Yes please
                        2.A lot of such places? (after)



                        Quote: Pimply
                        As for Grozny, I can find modern photographs where there are still holes from bullets and shells on the houses - but I won’t.

                        Why so ("I won't")?
                        I'll tell you in St. Petersburg with traces.
                        Are you in Grozny, or in Chechnya?

                        Quote: Pimply
                        There, instead of a normal state, they decided to build a gangster-and received it.

                        1. The same thing happened with Chechnya, only worse than SG
                        2. Doesn't SG seem to be Israeli?
                        On the Marmara, the flagship of the Freedom Flotilla, marching through the blockade of the Gaza Strip, - there are about 600 people. It was this ship that gave battle to the Israeli commandos, who, according to official figures, shot "more than ten" participants in the international voyage.
                        Israel captured the humanitarian flotilla going to Gaza: 19 dead (VIDEO)

                        EU requires investigation, Israeli flags burned in Turkey
                      11. +1
                        8 November 2015 17: 55
                        Let's think about returning, only after the return of the Kuril Islands. So that they looked and knew what would happen in the event of a repeated attack.
                        And why do they (the Syrians) need "desalination plants"?
                        And you do not know that in Syria the deepest deficiency of fresh water? Most came from Turkey, but alas, they built a series of dams that reduced by 60% the flow of fresh water to Syria.
                        Some observers believe that this was the trigger in the denouement and aggravation of the Syrian internal conflict. There is no water left for simple irrigated agriculture. The man came down from the mountains, well, where to go, they drank the water while they were far away, and went to "who is closer." Live like nadot.
                      12. +2
                        8 November 2015 18: 12
                        the Kuril Islands, an uninhabited island ridge, were discovered and mapped on the world map by Russian navigators and included in the Empire as a discoverer, Japan won them during the war 1905 later the USSR won them back from here, to whom should we give the Kuril Islands if the first person to step on was it Russian?
                      13. 0
                        8 November 2015 19: 40
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        the Kuril Islands, an uninhabited island ridge, were discovered and mapped on the world map by Russian navigators and included in the Empire as a discoverer, Japan won them during the war 1905 later the USSR won them back from here, to whom should we give the Kuril Islands if the first person to step on was it Russian?

                        Actually no

                        The first information about the islands was obtained by the Japanese during an expedition to Hokkaido and Sakhalin in 1635. In 1644, following the results of the 1635 — 1637 expeditions. In Hokkaido, the first Japanese map of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands was compiled. Then, in 1643, the islands were examined by the Dutch, led by Martin Frieze. This expedition compiled more detailed maps and described the land.

                        In Russia, the first mention of the Kuril Islands dates back to the 1646 year, when NI Kolobov spoke about the bearded secrets that inhabit the islands.

                        For the first time, Russians entered the Kuril land in the 1711 year.
                        The first delimitation of the possessions of Russia and Japan in the Kuril Islands was made in the Shimodsky treatise of 1855.

                        In exchange for ownership of Sakhalin, Russia transferred all the Kuril Islands to Japan in 1875.

                        This is if purely on the facts that you cited. There are many other points by which Russia has the right to claim these islands. But obviously not by right of the discoverer
                      14. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 09
                        Are these disputes useless do the Japanese want islands? let them come and take
                      15. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 13
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        Are these disputes useless do the Japanese want islands? let them come and take

                        How menacing and courageous. Only here does not add knowledge
                      16. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 28
                        the main thing is that the Kuril Islands are under our control
                      17. +1
                        8 November 2015 18: 41
                        Quote: opus
                        After the "help" of the State Department and Israel, Syria has it.

                        Syria has this primarily because of the internal conflict that smoldered over the course of many decades, splashed out, as in the 1982 in Hama, and eventually spilled out into a wide, wide river. Were it not for the long-term dominance of one group (small) over another (in which there were more than 70 percent of the country's population), were there not total corruption and hopelessness, no Arab springs would work. And so - reality pokes the situation in the face. Civil war always begins with soil well-fertilized by hatred.
                      18. +1
                        8 November 2015 19: 36
                        But the Allavites did not spread rot to other religions and did not impose their own, as with the Sunites?
                      19. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 03
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        But the Allavites did not spread rot to other religions and did not impose their own, as with the Sunites?

                        Well, the Allawites were spreading the Sunnis, because during the years of the French administration they were willing to cooperate with it and, by the time of Syria’s independence, they were the backbone of the local army and administration, after which they would not let anyone in there for a long time.
                      20. +3
                        8 November 2015 20: 31
                        and churches stood next to Shiite Sunni mosques, women walked bare-head dressed in dresses worked cafes and restaurants bars and movie theaters like the Saudis? Qatari? in the uae? You know a lot of Sunni countries where with respect to other religions and people of secular views?
                  2. +3
                    8 November 2015 16: 22
                    The stupidity of a narcissistic, illiterate citizen of Israel.


                    I just showed your stupidity.


                    According to the UN Charter, the Security Council can make decisions (Articles 39, 41, 42) and recommendations (Articles 36, 39, 40). Decisions of the Security Council are binding on States, while recommendations are not. 7 The recommendations can be considered as an expression of the opinion of an authoritative international body, as a prerequisite for the legitimacy of the state’s activities in accordance with the requirements of the resolution8, or even serve as a confirmation of the validity of the use of force in self-defense (resolution 83 (1950)) 9. The UN Charter does not fix specific sanctions for non-compliance with recommendations, however, the Council has the right to take into account the fact of non-compliance (Article 40).


                    So i was right
                    All resolutions regarding Israel are advisory despite the fact that the UN Security Council has been adopted bully .
              3. -1
                8 November 2015 18: 26
                Quote: opus

                But r. from the UN Security Council:
                UN Security Council No. 478, resolutions 252 (1968), 267 (1969), 271 (1969), 298 (1971), 465 (1980) and 476 (1980), 242 from November 22 on November 1967, well, and so on ...

                You know what the UN is and what the UN Security Council is. The first is a club in the sandbox for the exchange of views, in which all recognize each other to one degree or another. And the UN Security Council is a group of the five strongest and most influential guys in the sandbox into which they regularly, for the sake of appearances, invite others to shout. But only they have the right to veto. Sometimes they make a joint statement. Which is called mandatory. Only here it is in fact not necessary. It can be ignored. And here the question arises - how strong and influential guys are ready to respond to the situation. Because, again, the UN is only an advisory body
                1. +2
                  8 November 2015 19: 11
                  Quote: Pimply
                  You know what the UN is and what the UN Security Council is.

                  It is a question or a statement?
                  request

                  I want to remind you that I did not start about the UN (GA or Security Council).
                  Someone else "ruined the air" about the UN / Russia resolutions.

                  1. +2
                    8 November 2015 19: 16
                    Quote: opus
                    It is a question or a statement?


                    I want to remind you that I did not start about the UN (GA or Security Council).
                    Someone else "ruined the air" about the UN / Russia resolutions.


                    It was not you who started, but you continued, right?
                    1. +1
                      8 November 2015 19: 31
                      Quote: Pimply
                      but you continued, right?

                      I replied.
                      (there is still a difference with "continued")
                      Although you are right: this policy is not mine (there is nothing new about weapons / technology).
                      + to you.
                      I’d better go play in the tanks (good x3) hi
                      1. +2
                        8 November 2015 19: 47
                        Quote: opus
                        I’d better go play in the tanks (good x3)

                        Everyone has their own toys. My toys today:
                      2. +1
                        9 November 2015 10: 46
                        Quote: Kaiten
                        My toys today:

                        lucky.
                        I have no access to similar ones (in fact).
                        / I can only talk with an Algerian Navy officer about the PTV /
                        So you get Pakko (judging by the photo and "work" in the evening at the factory)?


                        / Test partner “The last photo shows two new Merkavas 5 (in the foreground). Current guns removed."

                        recourse
                      3. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 04
                        Quote: opus
                        I replied.
                        (there is still a difference with "continued")
                        Although you are right: this policy is not mine (there is nothing new about weapons / technology).
                        + to you.
                        I’d better go play in the tanks (good x3)

                        Good luck good evening
          2. +4
            8 November 2015 15: 10
            Million dollar question.
            But first, a great revelation - Egypt has a border with the Gaza Strip, which Israel does not control.
            The question is, how can Israel occupy the Gaza Strip if Israel’s troops are not in Gaza and the Gaza Strip has a free border with Egypt and Egypt itself blocks the Gaza Strip due to terror?
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 16: 03
              Quote: Wiski
              But first, a great revelation - Egypt has a border with the Gaza Strip, which Israel does not control.
              The question is, how can Israel occupy the Gaza Strip?

              Stupid question. The same for $ 2 billion.
              Crimea borders with Ukraine, there is no land communication between Russia and Ukraine ...
              AS HIS
              Quote: Wiski
              may occupy
              Russia? belay

              Quote: Wiski
              and the Gaza Strip has a free border with Egypt and Egypt itself is blocking the Gaza Strip because of terror?


              As a result of the Arab-Israeli war of 1948-1949, which began after the decision of the UN and the subsequent formation of the state of Israel, an Arab state was not created, and from 1948 to 1967 the sector was under Egyptian control. According to the results of the Six Day War, from 1967 to 2005, the sector was under Israeli control. In accordance with the Oslo Accords (1993) signed between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Israel temporarily provides military control over the airspace of the Gaza Strip, some of its land borders (the rest are under Egyptian control) and territorial waters. As a result of the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) was formed on the basis of the West Bank and the sector.

              What is Egypt controlling there ...


              I don’t understand.
              The area around the cities of Arish, Rafah and Sheikh Zuweid on the border with Israel practically not controlled by the Egyptian authorities.



          3. 0
            8 November 2015 20: 32
            Quote: opus
            The UN continues to consider the Gaza Strip occupied by Israel, the US State Department (your opinion is important to him)

            The State Department and the United Nations continue to consider Crimea, Ukraine.
            What now? Described in fear.?
            1. +1
              9 November 2015 10: 39
              Quote: atalef
              The State Department and the United Nations continue to consider Crimea, Ukraine.

              I will remind you:
              1. Article "Israel Supports Al-Qaeda (" Publico.es ", Spain)"
              2. The topic of water in the SG, the Nile River and its overlapping is discussed.
              Question: where does Crimea and Ukraine come from?
              -------------------
              I will express my (purely) opinion (if Crimea / Ukraine is for you, this topic is expensive):
              1. If the collapse of "USSR No. 2" / 3MV and the State Department and the UN does not happen (which I doubt), Crimea will be considered a part of the Russian Federation for 5-7 years
              2. Jerusalem (East), the Golan Heights and other occupied territories will never be considered Israeli by anyone.
              And they will kick you out of there

              Quote: atalef
              What now? Described in fear.?

              If there is an obsessive phobia about enuresis, you need to turn to a varach
              Yes
  7. +27
    8 November 2015 07: 00
    Israel - an artificially created state that does not have a right to land on which it exists - they were simply allowed to live there, now it is one of the largest aggressors in the Middle East, along with the states. Why was Israel created? To save the Jewish people from total annihilation. Gave them territory - live and rejoice. No, now it is one of the most aggressive countries in the world. I am not anti-Semite, but the Israeli policy towards Palestine (which had to share its territory) smells of genocide. We should remember our story and not make mistakes.
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          1. +9
            8 November 2015 08: 48
            Quote: Babr
            Forgive him Alexander. He does not know what he is saying.

            Interesting thing: one violates the rules of the site, but they delete the post of another, which pays attention to this violation! what
            Your affairs are wonderful, moderators! request bully
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 09: 57
              Yes? And you think there are no "OUR" among the moderators? Whatever it is! For 22 years of my life in Kolyma and Magadan I met THREE "OUR"! TWO in the research institute and ONE in the supply! Well, and one more every summer flew on a business trip from St. Petersburg (some scientific research institute of problems of the North)! So don't worry!
    2. +19
      8 November 2015 08: 08
      Quote: EvgNik
      Gave them territory - live and rejoice. No, now it is one of the most aggressive countries in the world. I am not anti-Semite, but the Israeli policy towards Palestine (which had to share its territory) smells of genocide. We should remember our story and not make mistakes.

      Here they are in relation to Palestine
      1. +13
        8 November 2015 08: 27
        Quote: vc 72019
        Here they are in relation to Palestine

        What I was talking about without even knowing about such a dynamics of land capture. One word - let the goat into the garden ...
        1. -21
          8 November 2015 09: 08
          Nefig was a war unleashed against the young Israeli state.
          1. +11
            8 November 2015 10: 13
            Quote: miru mir
            Nefig was a war unleashed against the young Israeli state.

            Nefig had genocide against Palestinian Arabs to arrange and evict them from the territories in which they lived.
            1. -8
              8 November 2015 10: 39
              First, before writing the word genocide, at least find out what it is and don’t show your stupidity.

              Regarding the eviction, the current Palestinian leader, Abu Mazen, personally wrote
              (Filastin A-Thawra, March 1976): "The Arab armies forced the Palestinians to leave their homes."


              The Arab High Committee (actually the governing body of the Palestinian Arabs) forced Arabs living in Jaffa, Jerusalem, Haifa and other urban centers to leave their homes "until the Jews were exterminated." London weekly "The Economist" (October 2, 1948) wrote: "Of the 62 thousand Arabs who lived in Haifa, no more than five or six thousand remained <...> The most powerful factors (in flight) were the declarations and appeals made by the Supreme Palestinian-Arab committee, calling on all Arabs in Haifa to leave the city and warning that those who remain in Haifa under Jewish rule will be considered traitors. "
              Arab leaders and the Arab Liberation Army urged urban and rural Arab populations to evacuate in order to facilitate the success of the Arabs' attack and then take over Jewish homes.

              Khaled al-Azam, Syrian Prime Minister (memoirs, 1973): “We brought refugees to disaster, urging them to leave their homes.”
              Jordanian daily Palestine (February 19, 1949): "Arab states ... incited Palestinians to temporarily leave their homes so as not to interfere with the invasion of the Arab armies."
              Al-Ayyam daily newspaper (May 13, 2008): “The Arab Liberation Army told the Palestinians:“ Leave your homes and villages, and you will be back in a few days. If you leave them, then we will be able to fulfill our mission ... ""
              The writer Salah Jubran described the events in Haifa of that time (1962): “The high Arab command asked the population to leave the country for two weeks so as not to interfere with military operations. They told us: “The guns do not distinguish who is in front of them - Arabs or Jews. Leave the country for a few weeks and you will come back with a victory ... “I heard a Haganah speaker calling on the Arabs to stay and live in peace with the Jewish brothers. The late mayor of Haifa also requested the population to return to our homes. Histadrut, our union, distributed flyers urging Arabs to return. I still have such a leaflet. ”
          2. +5
            8 November 2015 12: 02
            Quote: miru mir
            Nefig was a war unleashed against the young Israeli state.

            Wahahah - ohoho
            We take all the territories of the former under the Nazis - nefig attack was.
            L is the logic.
            1. -1
              8 November 2015 12: 06
              Recall what sovereign territories of the Arabs at that time? What was the Arab state from which Israel took these territories?
      2. -6
        8 November 2015 10: 32
        How much will this lying card go on the Internet - it's hard to say wassat

        This card is as deceitful as this article.

        The funny thing is that the map allegedly shows the land lost by the so-called Palestinians (Arabs). In fact, at that time they had no land at all. It was a mandated territory and nothing belonged to them.

        The left map is the usual forgery; in green, the whole territory is indicated in general where Jews allegedly did not live and attributed this territory to Arabs without any sense and right and taken from a pro-Palestinian propaganda site, including the desert and other territories where Arabs never lived .
        The author of this card has done great good to the anti-Semites - he distributed a fake card that naive people still believe.

        The second map seems to be correct, but this map is not relevant for the reason that it is a division map that the United Nations proposed to create a two-state. In fact, it only shows that the first card is bullshit, since before that no one had given anything to the Arabs

        Again, the second map shows the division of what the United Nations proposed and what the Arabs themselves rejected and decided to dump the Jews into the sea. Jews agreed to a division, but similar resolutions are valid only when both sides adopt a resolution. Arabs went to war and the resolution lost its force.
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 14: 56
          that's just the UN decision that gave Israel the right to exist, sounded like 2 state for 2 peoples, is there a Jewish state where the Palestinian?
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 15: 30
            The UN did not give Israel the right to exist. The UN recognized Israel as a state after Israel proclaimed itself. The UN can neither create a state nor give a right to exist.

            There is no Palestinian since the Arabs tried several times to destroy the Jews and Israel and did not accept the resolution. Yes, and the resolution was recommendatory.

            Moreover, why don’t you ask Egypt that you kept Gaza for 19 years or from Jordan, that you refused to claim Judea and Samaria only in my year 87.
            The neighboring Arab countries never believed that the Palestinians, who had been invented as a people in the early 60s, were supposed to. And only after they realized that Israel didn’t take by force they went the other way.
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 16: 16
              Nasser offered to take Gaza and close the problem your horn rested, okay, they would have seized the territory, put things in order and lived in peace and you’re suffering and the Palestinians are suffering and a lot of money for the wind and terror
              1. +1
                8 November 2015 17: 23
                Can you recall who signed the Oslo Accords, who supported Hamas, who rejoiced and welcomed that Israel had withdrawn troops from Gaza? Who rejoiced that there would be democratic elections in Gaza, and then Hamas seized power by force? RUSSIA.
                1. +1
                  8 November 2015 17: 49
                  Hasn't your Mossad created Hamas as a counterweight to Fathu? when Hamas seized the gas, Fatah asked for permission to transfer the security forces to restore order you banned! it’s you who created Hamas because it’s a convenient opponent and because with the help of this scarecrow you can drag any law
                  1. +2
                    8 November 2015 19: 42
                    Quote: anti-Semite
                    Hasn't your Mossad created Hamas as a counterweight to Fathu? when Hamas seized the gas, Fatah asked for permission to transfer the security forces to restore order you banned! it’s you who created Hamas because it’s a convenient opponent and because with the help of this scarecrow you can drag any law

                    No, actually. Hamas began as a purely charitable peace organization, therefore its activities were approved. But to create - of course you have a cool look at the reality of 8)
                    1. 0
                      8 November 2015 20: 10
                      and yet when the fatah wanted to slam them you were against
                      1. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 15
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        and yet when the fatah wanted to slam them you were against
                        And detail? I'd like to listen to the history of the Middle East in your interpretation, here the further, the funnier
                      2. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 32
                        does Jacob Kedmi lie?
          2. -1
            8 November 2015 18: 45
            Quote: anti-Semite
            that's just the UN decision that gave Israel the right to exist, sounded like 2 state for 2 peoples, is there a Jewish state where the Palestinian?

            Dear little friend, do you know that at the moment there is no single legal definition of the state. And the UN only strengthens the membership of a certain conditional entity in the UN - and that’s it. No more. The UN is an advisory body, an instrument of international diplomacy.
    3. -2
      8 November 2015 08: 24
      I agree with you. Well, the first Nazis.
    4. +12
      8 November 2015 08: 37
      Quote: EvgNik
      Israel - an artificially created state that does not have the right to land on which it exists - they were simply allowed to live there, now it is one of the largest aggressors in the Middle East, along with the states.

      In fact, all states in the world are created on the basis of the will of a certain group of people, that is, ARTIFICially. Naturally, only children appear, and states, unfortunately, are not created. If you approach with such standards, then all the states in the BV, and in Africa, with the possible exception of Egypt and Ethiopia, were created according to the results of the collapse of the colonial system and did not exist before that. In the territory of the former British mandate of Palestine there are - one Jewish state - Israel, and almost two Arab states: Jordan and Palestine. All three of these states, as well as Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, KSA, etc. - certainly artificially created. In this region, Turkey and Egypt have a long history of existing ones. Of course, it is possible to consider the Arab caliphates that existed in the Middle Ages as the predecessors of Syria and Iraq, but Turkish and Anglo-French rule in the region completely breaks this continuity from five thousand years ago. Both Jews and Arabs lived together under the Turks - and for a very long time.
      1. +5
        8 November 2015 09: 34
        Quote: andj61
        In fact, all states in the world are created on the basis of the will of a certain group of people, that is, ARTIFICially.

        I agree, almost ... All states were created by the will of the people who created them. Israel was created by decision of the UN, and this is completely different. And without this decision, they would continue to wander around different countries and muddied the water there, which in fact they are doing now successfully living in their own, albeit artificial, homeland.
        1. -10
          8 November 2015 09: 41
          Quote: EvgNik
          I agree, almost ... All states were created by the will of the people who created them. Israel was created by decision of the UN, and this is completely different. And without this decision, they would continue to wander around different countries and muddied the water there, which in fact they are doing now successfully living in their own, albeit artificial, homeland.

          The UN does not create a state; it only recognizes or does not recognize a fait accompli. I dare to say that Israel would have been created without a UN decision, all the prerequisites were there, but there would be more problems.
        2. +4
          8 November 2015 09: 58
          And the most offensive is that the USSR (on its own head) was the first to recognize this misunderstanding!
      2. +2
        8 November 2015 10: 08
        Quote: andj61
        In fact, all states in the world are created on the basis of the will of a certain group of people, that is, ARTIFICially. Naturally, only children appear, and states, unfortunately, are not created. If you approach with such standards, then all the states in the BV, and in Africa, with the possible exception of Egypt and Ethiopia, were created according to the results of the collapse of the colonial system and did not exist before that. In the territory of the former British mandate of Palestine there are - one Jewish state - Israel, and almost two Arab states: Jordan and Palestine. All three of these states, as well as Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, KSA, etc. - certainly artificially created. In this region, Turkey and Egypt have a long history of existing ones. Of course, it is possible to consider the Arab caliphates that existed in the Middle Ages as the predecessors of Syria and Iraq, but Turkish and Anglo-French rule in the region completely breaks this continuity from five thousand years ago. Both Jews and Arabs lived together under the Turks - and for a very long time.

        A good, calm, cultured and, most importantly, competent commentary, Dear colleague. But it is unlikely that many participants in the "battle between the Zionists and the patriots" will pay attention to him. laughing
        PS Andrey, I’m not joking about the literacy of your comment. hi
    5. +1
      8 November 2015 09: 07
      Quote: EvgNik
      Gave them territory - live and rejoice.

      So they used to live in peace. You Arabs would instill peaceful initiative in your little brothers.
      1. +3
        8 November 2015 10: 04
        Quote: miru mir
        So they used to live in peace. You Arabs would instill peaceful initiative in your little brothers.

        And what about this? Just read the Babylonian Talmud
        4. Libbre David 37: "Telling the goyim something about our religious relations
        tantamount to killing all Jews, because if they knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly. "
        5. Libbre David 37: "If a Jew is given the floor to explain any part of the rabbi's book, he should only give false explanations. Anyone who ever breaks this law will be killed." 6. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a girl is allowed if the girl is 3 years old."
        7. Schabouth Hag 6d: "Jews can make false promises for excuses."
        8. Hikkoth Akum X1: "Don't save the goyim in case of danger or death."
        9. Hikkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the goyim."
        10. Choschen Hamm 388,15: "If it can be proven that someone gave the money of the Israelites to the goyim, a way must be found to wipe it off the face of the earth after prudent compensation for damages."
        11. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew can have everything he finds if it belongs to Akum (goy). He who returns property (goyim) sins against the Law, increasing the power of offenders. However, it deserves praise if the lost property is returned to glory the name of God, that is, when Christians will praise the Jews and look at them as honest people. "

        Especially item number 11, so fair
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 10: 20
          Quote: APASUS
          And what about this? Just read the Babylonian Talmud

          Oh, vey, and I believe honestly honestly, but the Babylonian Talmud could not be written in Russian, did you apparently read it in Aramaic in the original? Give the link do not poison the soul.
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 10: 36
            Quote: Hello
            Oh, vey, and I believe honestly honestly, but the Babylonian Talmud could not be written in Russian, did you apparently read it in Aramaic in the original? Give the link do not poison the soul.

            I can give you a comment by a linguist, where he disputes this spelling and proves the origin years later than is presented in history.
            But I don’t see the point in this, so that I do not write a reaction I foresee in advance ............. and for the reaction Thank you of course! Now your comrades will do.
            1. -4
              8 November 2015 10: 56
              Quote: APASUS
              I can give you a comment by a linguist, where he disputes this spelling and proves the origin years later than is presented in history.

              Let’s read if I challenge it. I hope the linguist uses the source? And then I would not want to stumble again on a scholar broadcasting about Jewish books from the words of an unknown translator.
        2. -5
          8 November 2015 10: 50
          I’m all this mura-Talmud-Shmalmud, and other tales, I don’t bother my head. And I do not advise you hi
  8. +1
    8 November 2015 07: 10
    There is no smoke without fire.
  9. -3
    8 November 2015 07: 15
    Correctly Namedirek Smoke does not happen without fire. And the catechism, the line of serenity, the statements of the Russian Tsars.
  10. +6
    8 November 2015 07: 26
    I will add. I have acquaintances from the Jews, and relatives of my acquaintances live in Israel. You will meet one - the dearest person, the soul of the company, but if several Jews gather, it is already either a sect or a Masonic lodge.
    1. -6
      8 November 2015 08: 16
      but if several Jews gather, this is either a sect or a Masonic lodge.


      Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia.
      1. -3
        8 November 2015 08: 19
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia.

        Hello Maki, come on, let’s cut off Neil in Gaza wassat . And then the Spaniards tell us without the Nile and the Tigris with the Euphrates in any way. fellow
        1. +8
          8 November 2015 08: 43
          Quote: Hello
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia.

          Hello Maki, come on, let’s cut off Neil in Gaza wassat . And then the Spaniards tell us without the Nile and the Tigris with the Euphrates in any way. fellow

          Why only Neil? Limpopo and Amazon decided to leave the Arabs? tongue
          1. +4
            8 November 2015 08: 58
            Quote: andj61
            Why only Neil? Limpopo and Amazon decided to leave the Arabs?

            I would not be surprised if some "authoritative" publication writes that the Amazon and Limpopo are vitally necessary for Israel to dominate the world, and they also write about the statements of some first secretary of Tsar Solomon that you cannot build a third temple without the Volga and Baikal. And in general, everyone already knows that the Jews want to seize everything, why the evidence. wassat
            1. -5
              8 November 2015 09: 44
              EvgNik did not differ intelligence and wit
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 14: 11
                Quote: Eugene-Eugene
                mind and quick wits

                Lelik and Bolik have been Srail's friends for 50 years. True, thanks to the Smolensk birch tree, one "friend" has become less, however, the "schmolengs-holocaust" in someone's priest is still itching.
        2. -6
          8 November 2015 09: 06
          Quote: Hello
          And then the Spaniards tell us without the Nile and the Tigris with the Euphrates in any way.

          Taki when you grow wiser
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 09: 12
            Quote: Tusv
            Taki when you grow wiser

            What sadness are you?
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 09: 20
              Quote: Hello
              What sadness are you?

              Natives live with you. Scary for them
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 09: 25
                Quote: Tusv
                Natives live with you. Scary for them

                Life is a terrible thing. wink
                1. 0
                  8 November 2015 09: 30
                  Quote: Hello
                  Life is a terrible thing.

                  Well, this is clear to everyone. Inevitable Fatal Illness
      2. +9
        8 November 2015 08: 30
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia

        Wait, just pull the diapers. And paranoia is an occupational disease of all Jews.
      3. +2
        8 November 2015 09: 13
        You need to protect yourself from your Sanhedrin in our thought and our government (both "institutions" with a small letter). And there is also someone Chubais, also, they say, not a stranger to you. This is if on the merits. But about the Nile in Gaza ... also the working part of the brain is slightly stalled.
    2. -7
      8 November 2015 09: 03
      Quote: EvgNik
      You will meet one - the dearest person, the soul of the company, but if several Jews gather, it is already either a sect or a Masonic lodge.

      Old Estonian Joke
      - Look, these Russians are boiling a glass of fotka and they won’t get anything, but we have to go.
      If the Jews are the Masonic lodge, then who are we with our part of the world?
      1. +1
        8 November 2015 09: 41
        Quote: Tusv
        If the Jews are the Masonic lodge, then we with our part of the world who

        Well, let there not be a Masonic lodge, let there be a Jewish bank, or a conspiracy or something else, but I know that there is nothing good - an example is the country of Israel.
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 09: 44
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: Tusv
          If the Jews are the Masonic lodge, then we with our part of the world who

          Well, let there not be a Masonic lodge, let there be a Jewish bank, or a conspiracy or something else, but I know that there is nothing good - an example is the country of Israel.

          Bank or conspiracy laughing
          Some kind of innate inferiority complex
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 09: 53
            Bank or conspiracy
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 14: 16
              Quote: Eugene-Eugene
              or conspiracy

              The "machine" is excellent! Only the "conspiracy" should be removed!
          2. +2
            8 November 2015 10: 06
            Quote: atalef
            Some kind of innate inferiority complex

            With the full value in Russia, everything is in order. In the nineties, a German came. We all swim, and he is in the middle of the meadow and how he will yell in Russian. Well, in general, it’s not possible here, but in the vast expanses of Russia this one word means the highest degree of delight and the found meaning of life
        2. +1
          8 November 2015 09: 48
          Yes, exhale you already!
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 10: 51
            Wah! Pretty boy!!!
          2. +1
            8 November 2015 14: 18
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            and exhale you already!

            This is how much you need to take on such an exhaust? (1 g / mol = 23 liters) ...
  11. +8
    8 November 2015 07: 33
    For Israel, the state is quite happy with the chaos around it, since it is in a hostile environment. They know how to use the divide and conquer command in perfection. The people of Israel themselves are essentially a hostage to the situation, because no matter how they treat ordinary Jews, they don’t really need all these wars, because every ordinary person, not a ruler, dreams of an ordinary normal quiet life, in fact the people are hostage to the situation. Although of course I’m not going to whitewash the Jewish people, because what is happening around them is their part of the guilt. But I made conclusions based on many articles and books about Israel and the Jews.
  12. +11
    8 November 2015 07: 48
    It’s no secret that the Israelis assisted the terrorists ... when, at the very beginning of the Syrian confrontation, they provided medical assistance in their hospitals to the militants who were hiding on their territory from the persecution of government troops, the weapons captured during the fighting were the same Israeli ... and these strange shelling, as ordered by the territory of Israel, but the answer for something always came from the Syrian troops.
    1. -6
      8 November 2015 07: 58
      Israelis assisted the terrorists ... when, at the very beginning of the Syrian confrontation, they provided medical assistance to militants in their hospitals

      I fundamentally disagree, I think they simply filled their hands in order to maintain their status as one of the best doctors. And how much material appears for transplantology.
      1. +5
        8 November 2015 08: 08
        Well, yes, such as doctors without borders.
        Quote: nemec55
        Israelis assisted the terrorists ... when, at the very beginning of the Syrian confrontation, they provided medical assistance to militants in their hospitals

        I fundamentally disagree, I think they simply filled their hands in order to maintain their status as one of the best doctors. And how much material appears for transplantology.

        I think they just stuffed a hand

        But for this they can fill the face.
      2. 0
        8 November 2015 10: 05
        How can you write such nonsense? Israeli medicine is so far ahead of ours as your brain lags behind Einstein in development. And for transplantology - what do you know, have you seen enough movies?
        1. -3
          8 November 2015 10: 44
          How can you write such nonsense? Israeli medicine is so far ahead of ours as your brain lags behind Einstein in development. And for transplantology - what do you know, have you seen enough movies?

          Have you written these three words for half a day in order to fart louder or so to knock on a tambourine and run around the fire? The media then realized that they were joking
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 11: 58
            Yes, as I read the diarrhea, this is your verbal and wrote. Where does the half-day data come from?
        2. -1
          8 November 2015 15: 04
          Einstein is a top paid clown whose task is to divert attention from Nikola Tesla? well, he still gave out the theory of relativity, though it was refuted but not the essence
          1. -1
            8 November 2015 16: 08
            I haven’t heard such a thing yet - BRAVO - nomination is Nonsense OF THE YEAR !!! And what kind of theory of relativity did Einstein put forward?
            1. 0
              8 November 2015 16: 45
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Общая_теория_относительности hi
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 17: 27
                A special one?
      3. +1
        8 November 2015 10: 10
        Well, it's straight "Charlie Hebdo" - they laughingly put up a caricature with boxes of human limbs of victims of the plane crash over SINAI! That's really symbolic - over the "promised land" of the ZIONISTS!
    2. +2
      8 November 2015 09: 13
      Quote: Strashila
      It's no secret that the Israelis helped the terrorists ...

      Both!!! What are you informed. And from where does everyone know this? Of these anti-Israeli statues? Or did you personally drag terrorists with diplomas to Israeli hospitals?
  13. 0
    8 November 2015 07: 51
    Survive at all costs - the Jewish principle in action! negative
    1. 0
      8 November 2015 08: 08
      Here I am talking about too
  14. +4
    8 November 2015 08: 08
    This news is already a year old, Israel says, if the wounded is knocking, then we are treating him without asking who he is fighting for. Like they stand over the Arabs without supporting anyone.
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    2. +2
      8 November 2015 08: 14
      In the photo, the wounded man is similar to Yarosh. what
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 09: 14
        Quote: Turkir
        In the photo, the wounded man is similar to Yarosh.

        So this is it. Bgyyy ...
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 15: 06
          so Natsik from the outskirts of Israel money fly for treatment doesn’t smell like money especially Waltsman and Kolomoisky
          1. -1
            8 November 2015 16: 52
            This is Natsik for you, and half the world - about 100 countries believe that you are such ... and they just do not.
            However, Russia itself has officially recognized the Ukrainian government and is pursuing a policy with it at all levels.
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 17: 11
              against the good bats of the right sector of Kolomoisky and many others, I did not care about the world’s opinion, this world didn’t see the massacre in China, this world didn’t spit on the slaughter in Korea and Vietnam, this world supported Napoleon and was loyal to Hitler until the Soviet padded jacket turned neck of the Wehrmacht, the world can consider everything that wants me does not care
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  16. +2
    8 November 2015 08: 39
    Surprisingly, there was still a publication independent of the representatives of the "chosen people". No pasarán!
    1. -1
      8 November 2015 10: 14
      WHERE!? WHAT IS THE EDITION !?
      IDENTIFY!
      THIS CANNOT BE !!!
      1. +1
        8 November 2015 14: 01
        Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        WHERE!? WHAT IS THE EDITION !?
        IDENTIFY!
        THIS CANNOT BE

        Excuse me, I ask you to pan, painted from the windows ...
        "Israel Supports Al Qaeda (Publico.es, Spain)".
        Maybe the buv is not alive, but after getting drunk, rubbing his eyes, you know that it was like this: Israel supports Al-Qaeda ("Publico.es", Spain).
  17. +1
    8 November 2015 08: 42
    Golems saving the people are on the mind. Hitler taught nothing?
  18. 0
    8 November 2015 08: 46
    Many peoples have a genetic memory of them; Spain remembers.
  19. +7
    8 November 2015 08: 47
    He has connections everywhere -
    In stores and at the base.
    And what are our connections? -
    Detox only ...
    All the enemies were defeated long ago
    They overthrew all the kings
    It's a pity we forgot in a hurry
    Overthrow these Jews!
  20. 0
    8 November 2015 08: 48
    I got to the phrase "You are amazed at the cynicism of the Israeli regime, which in practice carries out the ruthless genocide of unarmed Palestinians, including children." and threw-ordinary, sucked from the finger anti-Israeli propaganda.
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 08: 57
      From a graduate of secondary school No. 61, hello to a graduate of secondary school No. 9!
      1. +2
        8 November 2015 10: 11
        Quote: Humpty
        From a graduate of secondary school No. 61, hello to a graduate of secondary school No. 9!

        Gip-gip !!!
    2. 0
      8 November 2015 10: 18
      Quote: miru mir
      common anti-Israeli propaganda sucked from a finger.

      We are used to it, and you have to go wink
    3. 0
      8 November 2015 15: 07
      the entire Israeli press is full of similar articles only about Russia, so it’s a sin for you to resent
    4. 0
      8 November 2015 18: 59
      Quote: miru mir
      I got to the phrase "You are amazed at the cynicism of the Israeli regime, which in practice carries out the ruthless genocide of unarmed Palestinians, including children." and threw it-ordinary, sucked out of the finger anti-Israeli propaganda.

      Well, what did you expect from one of the most left-wing Spanish newspapers
  21. +1
    8 November 2015 09: 07
    Hmm, politicians brewed porridge in 47, deciding to give their own state to the Jews. Given that there are many dark and incomprehensible spots in the history of mankind, especially with the location of certain historical key events, the allocation of land for the country of Israel in the Arab territories does not look too smart . Which led to what we have now. The concepts of Israeli security are too eagerly and one-sidedly interpreted, which leads not only to the expansion of their own territory, but also to problems with their neighbors. Too much ambition. There is another country with such ambitions of exclusivity. So they hide their actions under the guise of bringing democracy to all corners of the world, regardless of whether those nations need it or not wink
    so it’s such a gift that Joseph Vissarionovich made to the world Jews, and they gave their land to uuuuu how far away and they do not create any problems for neighbors - the places were deaf lol
    They would give them land somewhere in the middle of the Sahara and there would be no problems in the Middle East feel
    hi
    1. +3
      8 November 2015 09: 45
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Hmm, politicians brewed porridge in 47, deciding to give their own state to the Jews. Given that there are many dark and incomprehensible spots in the history of mankind, especially with the location of certain historical key events, the allocation of land for the country of Israel in the Arab territories does not look too smart . Which led to what we have now.

      In the 91st brewed so brewed. We decided to give statehood on Russian soil a whole pack of nationalists, including a number of nationalities that did not even exist in pre-revolutionary Russia. It doesn't look smart.
      Israel and their Moroccan and Algerian blood brothers (sometimes called Palestinians) are far away and have no relatives there. Let them understand their own.
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 10: 04
        Quote: Humpty
        In the 91st brewed so brewed. We decided to give statehood on Russian soil a whole pack of nationalists, including a number of nationalities that did not even exist in pre-revolutionary Russia. It doesn't look smart.

        Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs wink Formally, the republics that type separated from the USSR, which led to its collapse, are separate states. LEGALLY !!! Therefore, to say that the type gave the nationalists free rein is very tense. Another thing is how these newly emerging countries took advantage of their freedom. After all, someone ruined the old grievances and rushed to the worst not without help from outside, but someone tried to preserve all the ties left from the Great Country! Yes, we had to drop formalism and accept the rules of the game, becoming an independent state. And to create already other ties based on at least some semblance of world law - there are all sorts of treaties, unions ...
        You can’t row all under one comb! hi
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 10: 48
          Quote: Rurikovich
          You can’t row all under one comb!

          It is impossible. Nothing, they grabbed me. This is surprising, but Russian is closer to me South Koreans than Belarusians. This is not ironic, but in fact the response.
    2. 0
      8 November 2015 09: 51
      Quote: Rurikovich
      That would give them land somewhere in the middle of the Sahara

      And better in Antarctica. I am kidding that to earn more minuses from the Israelis. By the way, today I put only one minus to the children of Israel - for the most impudent comment, I understand - patriotism, and we have few of them on the site, but I tried to equalize the disadvantages set by them to the best of my ability.
      1. +3
        8 November 2015 10: 20
        Quote: EvgNik
        I am kidding that to earn more minuses from the Israelis. By the way, today the children of Israel put only one minus

        Thank you, my dear father, how would you live without you?
        Another plus sign from me earned.

        Quote: EvgNik
        Wait just diapers pull

        Hope already pulled? you can describe with happiness wink
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 18: 35
          Quote: atalef
          Hope already pulled? you can describe with happiness

          Atalef, you used to get minuses from me, but don’t try today - today is your holiday, sit all day on one article and earn hard on the minus. God help you. And today I’m kind ... to the Jews, I’m not negative. I put only my advantages - I correct your unjustified malice. Specifically to you, visitors to VO, I have no complaints, as well as to the people of Israel. But to the country of Israel-is.
    3. +1
      8 November 2015 10: 20
      So Joseph Vissarionovich proposed to send to the NEW LAND when the delegation came to ask for CRIMEA and KUBAN for their NEW state! Sorry I did not have time!
  22. +10
    8 November 2015 10: 04
    Why be surprised? The state of Israel itself was created on the territory of the Palestinian state and, like a cuckoo, pushed this state itself out of the nest. Now Palestinians live without a homeland in refugee camps, and Israelis are all talking about their unfortunate fate. And who does Israel support in Ukraine? The same Bandera and fascists who are treated in Israeli clinics. Not a single child from the southeast, not to mention the women and old people who suffered from the Ukrainian army, are not treated by the "noble" Jews. And where are the constant demands from everyone to respect the suffering of the Jewish people during the Second World War? For some reason, this does not apply to fascist Ukraine.
    1. +2
      8 November 2015 10: 07
      Because in today's world money rules !!! wink
      1. +2
        8 November 2015 10: 49
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Because in today's world money rules !!! wink

        Well, the Rurik people were never poor.
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 11: 00
          Quote: atalef
          Well, the Rurik people were never poor.

          For that we have less exorbitant ambitions, we live peacefully with our neighbors, we are not trying to indicate to everyone around what is good for us and what is bad tongue wink hi
        2. 0
          8 November 2015 12: 38
          What does the Rurikovich have to do with it? and even the Romanovs?
    2. +1
      8 November 2015 10: 13
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      Why be surprised? The state of Israel itself was created on the territory of the Palestinian state and, like a cuckoo, this state itself pushed out of the nest.

      Seriously? Was it a Palestinian state? The British with the Ottomans at a loss.
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      And who does Israel support in Ukraine?

      No one
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      Not a single child from the southeast, not to mention the women and old people who suffered from the Ukrainian army, are not treated by "noble" Jews

      I’ll tell you more, and children from western Ukraine, Israel does not treat, and children from Honduras, too.
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      The same Bandera and fascists who are being treated in Israeli clinics.

      Show at least one.
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      For some reason, this does not apply to fascist Ukraine.

      My God, does your country maintain relations with the fascist state and recognize the legitimate fascist president?
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 15: 10
        http://nnm.me/blogs/z7z2929/ranenyh-maydanovcev-budut-lechit-v-izraile/ ну например так
    3. +9
      8 November 2015 10: 33
      Quote: Nina Czerny
      Not a single child from the southeast, not to mention the women and old people who suffered from the Ukrainian army, are not treated by "noble" Jews.

      But they treated the "activists" of the Maidan, who killed the soldiers of the "Berkut". Who may have called on "m * skals and w * dov to knives" who are honored as heroes of the Bandera who killed Jews in the Second World War am

      Jews, what do you do in Israel with those who threw Molotov cocktails at police or special forces?
      1. -9
        8 November 2015 11: 33
        Proved to kill? Was the court? What an attempt to blame without evidence. Smacks of Russian propaganda stop
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 11: 57
          Here it smells, but does not smell but it STinkS !!!!! your Jewish propaganda. But the people can’t be fooled!
          1. -2
            8 November 2015 12: 12
            It smacks of mine just those who shove the video for the purpose of propaganda. And propaganda is far from Jewish. Oh, how many peoples in world history there were deceived peoples .. Well, you continue to live in fantasies wassat
        2. +4
          8 November 2015 13: 06
          Quote: Wiski
          Proved to kill? Was the court? What an attempt to blame without evidence. Smacks of Russian propaganda stop

          There is plenty of evidence of the murders of the "berkut" on Youtube, and they are removed from there. See for yourself:


          Are these videos also Russian propaganda?
          The atrocities of the UPA, which other * chat svidomye in the Second World War against the Jews, and not only in your opinion a lie?
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 13: 43
            The one that’s on the video in the hospital, where does he kill on your video? Moreover, he is a doctor in general.
            1. +2
              8 November 2015 14: 16
              Quote: Wiski
              The one that’s on the video in the hospital, where does he kill on your video? Moreover, he is a doctor in general.

              So what if he's a doctor? I'm talking about the fact that you treat the real criminals from the Maidan or the Syrian Islamists. Have you cured the Berkutovites a lot? Or citizens of the DPR and LPR affected by the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 15: 01
                These are just your thoughts and nothing more.
        3. +3
          8 November 2015 15: 12
          Adolf Aloizovich Shikelgruber didn’t kill the Jews personally either, what next?
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 15: 40
            And the fact that no one doubts his fault and it has been proved, and not all speculation, that they are trying to present as supposedly the truth.
            I just did not understand why you spent his Austrian surname Schiklgruber distorted her and middle name. Or are you still one of those who think that they are still underdeveloped, that they will mix up the Austrian surname with the Jewish one and that there are those who think that Hitler is Jewish? Well, this is no longer even funny.
            1. +2
              8 November 2015 16: 23
              my nationality doesn’t care much for you if you see anti-Semitism in everything, the crime of the new regime in Ukraine is obvious but the political interests of your country will never allow you to recognize the Nazi nature of the Poroshenko regime
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 16: 43
                Complexes just with you. None of the adequate people cites the name of Adolf in this way, except in an attempt to do as I described above.
                Israel does not interfere in your showdown with Ukraine at all. Stop writing nonsense
                1. +2
                  8 November 2015 17: 13
                  yah? the loudest after reuniting with the Crimea howled in Ukraine and in Israel for you it's a direct personal tragedy crying
  23. +8
    8 November 2015 10: 13
    Quote: miru mir
    Bgyyy ...

    Listen, a Kyrgyz Jew or a Jewish Kyrgyz, did not have time to appear on the site, but already rude to the fullest. At the same time, you still call for increasing your horizons. Can you first raise the culture of behavior in society?
    1. -8
      8 November 2015 10: 57
      Hamly? It seems everything is decorous and cultural. Only if you have already begun to give away nationalities here, I’m Russian, who was born in Kyrgyzstan and lives in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?
      1. +2
        8 November 2015 11: 17
        Quote: miru mir
        I am Russian, born in Kyrgyzstan and living in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?

        Hasn't he emigrated from Putin’s regime?
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 12: 18
          Quote: Tusv
          Hasn't he emigrated from Putin’s regime?

          Rather, because in Russia it is difficult for a Russian to obtain citizenship. In Israel or Germany it’s sometimes easier.
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 12: 49
            Quote: Humpty
            that in Russia it is difficult for a Russian to obtain citizenship. In Israel or Germany, sometimes easier

            Everyone has almost the same law. Five years or so. Israel has enough mother
            1. +2
              8 November 2015 13: 11
              Quote: Tusv
              Israel has enough mother

              For Russia, not enough entries in the Soviet birth certificate and someone else's passport - Russian, as well as father, mother and wife combined and the lack of nuances that discredit the biography.
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 16: 54
                Quote: Humpty
                For Russia, not enough entries in the Soviet birth certificate and someone else's passport - Russian, as well as father

                Hello. Permanently resided until 1991 and for Crimea until March 18, 2014. Russian Passport without delay. Everyone else, if not Nobel laureate - five years. Bourgeois has the same thing.
                I have Mom Jewish - Israel, of course, without my comments today, I give citizenship for a month.
                As I understand it. Mossad won't even give me a tourist visa
                1. +2
                  8 November 2015 20: 44
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Hello. Permanently resided until 1991 and for Crimea until March 18, 2014. Russian Passport without delay. Everyone else, if not Nobel laureate - five years

                  Or Depardieu wink

                  Quote: Tusv
                  I have Mom Jewish - Israel, of course, without my comments today, I give citizenship for a month.

                  Month? And I always thought right at the airport belay
          2. +3
            8 November 2015 14: 08
            My wife’s relatives in the Penza region settled, at first. And I went there to look around. The attitude of the locals is never worse. And all the Russians from Central Asia, only chock called laughing The difference in mentality is huge. Well, on this basis, constant skirmishes. And the father-in-law was burned twice, the second time the house burned down along with the father-in-law. Such hospitable Russians at the beginning of the 90s lived there. Now then, I think, everything has settled down - all the same, more than one decade has passed.
            1. 0
              8 November 2015 16: 14
              bad luck. that about me is a bunch of opposite examples (from Chechnya, from Ukraine from Central Asia), rather neutral to those who came from the former Soviet Republics, especially to Russian repatriates. They helped all nationalities as much as they could. although at the expense of the difference in mentality you are right- Russians are strongly assimilated during a long stay away from their homeland
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 22: 55
                Assimilated, not quite true. For me, the Motherland-Kyrgyzstan.
        2. +4
          8 November 2015 12: 43
          Nobody heard about him in those years. hi
      2. 0
        8 November 2015 12: 08
        Quote: miru mir
        Hamly? It seems everything is decorous and cultural. Only if you have already begun to give away nationalities here, I’m Russian, who was born in Kyrgyzstan and lives in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?

        in other words, a man without a clan, without a tribe ...
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 14: 10
          Quote: Egevich
          in other words, a man without a clan, without a tribe ...

          This is why you made such conclusions?
      3. +1
        8 November 2015 12: 21
        Quote: miru mir
        I am Russian, born in Kyrgyzstan and living in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?

        Wahahah - ohoho
        And yours and ours - and everyone managed to lick the ass.
        Go chupachups still polizi.
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 14: 13
          Come on without insults, sickly. There is something to say in PM. On the topic of the article there is something-please-politely and correctly. And to pass on to personality, and even in tyrnetic, it doesn’t paint anyone.
        2. 0
          8 November 2015 15: 14
          cosmopolitan)))) now it is clear why Stalin spread rot
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    2. -1
      8 November 2015 13: 02
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Listen, a Kyrgyz Jew or a Jewish Kyrgyz, did not have time to appear on the site, but already rude to the fullest. At the same time, you still call for increasing your horizons.

      Enumeration of the captain. By the way, note the photos of people (left and right) who have done much more good for Russia than many of the forum participants.
      The world knows one of them personally. As well as I am.
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 13: 36
        Quote: Humpty
        take a note of the photos of people (left and right) who have done much more good for Russia than many of the forum participants.
        The world knows one of them personally. As well as I am.


        It?
        A meeting of graduates of Frunze School No. 61 in Israel (2008) - photo by Alex Hoffman - graduated in 1971, from graduated in 1970 - V. Spektor was present.
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 13: 42
          Quote: andj61
          It?

          Yeah. On the right is the head of studies - Yakir (not an accidental similarity of surname), on the left is a computer science teacher Rappoport. I don’t know two in the middle.
      2. +3
        8 November 2015 14: 16
        Is it Efim Borisovich or what? Wow!!! New photo or from archives?
  24. +2
    8 November 2015 10: 19
    Quote: Strashila
    It's no secret that the Israelis helped the terrorists ...

    Oh, and how to qualify kidnappings, airstrikes on neighboring countries, ...
    Yes, and getting a contribution ...
    Quote: miru mir
    In the days of Nazi Germany, Israel did not exist.
    1. -1
      8 November 2015 11: 16
      Oh, and how to qualify kidnappings, airstrikes on neighboring countries, ...


      Given that Israel and Syria are at war, when Syria fires at Israel or caravans of weapons go to terrorists like Hezbollah, which in theory should no longer exist according to a UN decision, Israel’s actions are quite correct.

      The abductions of terrorists and other dishonesty - everyone does, and what they’re doing right.

      Yes, and getting a contribution ...


      I don’t remember Israel forcing Germany to pay money by force.
      And the fact that Germany understands that it is responsible for the attempt to exterminate the Jews, and that it appropriated the property of the Jews for a couple of hundred billion, is in the hands of the flag.
      1. +2
        8 November 2015 15: 16
        Russians were killed many times more, more Chinese than Russians and Jews combined, however only the death of the Jews is the tragedy of everyone else, it’s not a pity it’s just goy
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 16: 03
          Firstly, I don’t remember that Hitler made the decision to annihilate the Russian people; secondly, about 60% of Jews in Europe and about 1/3 of the Jews of the world were annihilated. In the third, the USSR already received reparations.
          And about the goyim here is generally stupid. Sorry for everyone.
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 16: 49
            and 27 million Soviet citizens 80% of which ethnic Russians he destroyed for the love of art? Slavs were subject to destruction just like gypsies and Jews
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 17: 36
              A huge number of people became victims of the Nazi regime for political, social and racial reasons. The first victims were the Germans themselves, persecuted primarily for political activity. Many of them died in concentration camps, and those that were released were broken physically and mentally. "Defective" Germans, i.e. mentally ill and disabled people were killed in the framework of the so-called "euthanasia" program. Homosexuals, criminal elements, and those who complained about the regime — but no matter how brutally they were treated in the camps, were not doomed to annihilation, like the Jews.

              The Nazis destroyed many thousands of Roma and Sinti (often called gypsies). Various estimates indicate the number from 200.000 thousand to over 500.000 thousand victims among the gypsy people. However, the Nazi policy towards Roma was not consistent. For example, in the territory of Great Germany, where Roma and Sinti were sufficiently integrated into society, they were considered as socially dangerous and were subject to destruction, while in the occupied territories of the Soviet Union those who lived settled mostly did not touch, but they persecuted and killed those who continued to lead a traditional nomadic lifestyle.

              Slavic peoples inhabiting Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Czechoslovakia and Bulgaria were also considered "racially inferior." But the attitude to these ethnic groups was dictated not only by racial theory, but by real political interests. Despite their alleged “inferiority”, the Slovaks, Croats, Bulgarians and some Ukrainians were ready to use the Nazis as allies. At the same time, many thousands of Russian prisoners of war were killed in hard labor and unbearable conditions in Nazi camps, in which they were seen primarily by communists and "subhuman." The Poles were also severely persecuted, in line with the Nazi plans for the reorganization of Europe on a racial basis. However, these plans also did not include the complete destruction of the Polish people. Polish children with an “Aryan” appearance were to be raised like Germans; the intelligentsia and national leaders were subject to destruction in order to suppress the very possibility of resistance, all others should be made slaves
  25. +7
    8 November 2015 10: 51
    The article is a sketch on a fan for the purpose of ignition, why do you comment on it there is not a single fact?
    1. 0
      8 November 2015 11: 19
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      The article is a sketch on a fan for the purpose of ignition, why do you comment on it there is not a single fact?

      Analyzes in the morning pass
    2. 0
      8 November 2015 12: 46
      True hi
    3. 0
      8 November 2015 16: 20
      agree. need not worry about them but about our own state, and why didn’t we?
  26. 0
    8 November 2015 11: 00
    Nda, so we, too, in due time contributed to the relocation of many "these same". While studying in Irkutsk, with friends, we were engaged in wrestling. And we loved to walk near the Irkutsk synagogue. When you meet "him" you will gently wind the peysics on your left hand, and shake your right finger And they suddenly smell of liquid fertilizer. Yes, they say in Novosibirsk in the vicinity of Akademgorodok in 70-80 there was nowhere to spit.
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 11: 30
      Would you meet oh how many Jews who would pile on you and your company. But you did choose the weak. It is understandable to satisfy their complexes.
      Honestly, only a moron can be proud of it. fool
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 15: 52
        or maybe you don’t have to climb into someone else’s house? do you have israel, and live in peace at home, why did you come to us?
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 16: 05
          To you? And who are you to decide who and where to live? Am I the president of the country? Or who?
          The opinion of insects is uninteresting negative
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 16: 53
            I am a representative of the INDIGENOUS ethnic group I live on the land where my ancestors lived 1000 years ago where they built cities even before the arrival of your Christianity this is my land, the "bugs" will get tired of enduring your bestial behavior at our house we will choose Kholmogorov as president or Kvachkov, I will see what you will sing then
            1. 0
              8 November 2015 17: 44
              You haven't chosen anyone for a long time. They do everything for you. As Putin said - Here, you know, they say: every Russian, if you "rub" properly, there will be a Tatar

              There are almost no Jews in Russia, and you are all on the planet. Complexes at you.

              So it’s not necessary to present yourself as an indigenous ethnos - it’s not known what will happen if you are rubbed :), especially since
              Vladimir Putin spoke out against amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the “state-forming Russian people”. "Is it dangerous. We don’t need this, ”he said, responding in the State Duma to the question of the deputy from the Communist Party, film director Vladimir Bortko.

              According to Putin, the introduction of such an amendment will automatically make part of the Russian population first-class people.

              “But we want you to have a strong, united nation, one people, so that every person who lives in the country thinks that this is his homeland. There is no other country and cannot be. In order for each person to feel this way, we must all be equal. This is a matter of principle, ”said the Prime Minister.

              1. +2
                8 November 2015 18: 25
                Well, of course! the elections are not fair, Putin lost)) but no one can say who actually won, I know for sure that they credited a number of votes and that Putin won without fraud and stuffing honestly and proof of this is the tantrum of the opposition observers who cursed quilted jackets, proposals to limit suffrage (if the people against Putin, why take away the right to vote from the people?) repeated statements by liberals that 90% of the population are Zaputino quilted jackets and sociological studies conducted by the Americans this clearly doesn’t have any reason to help the authorities, all this proves that the elections were fair and the results reflect the political views of society, although Jewish propaganda talks about the terrible dictatorship in Russia that before Putin he will not last forever and how the next will relate to Israel depends on the Jews themselves than the more evil you bring to the Russian people, the more anti-Semitism you will receive in return
                1. -2
                  8 November 2015 18: 43
                  Yes, yes, that’s exactly how it was and so every time laughing
                  1. 0
                    8 November 2015 19: 43
                    okay Putin rigged the election, the question is who won then?
                    1. -2
                      8 November 2015 20: 07
                      Putin won because it was not an election, but a fiction.
                      So I don’t argue, I understand perfectly well that Putin destroyed the entire opposition, all sorts of Zhirinovsky and Zyuganovs portray the appearance of democracy and are well aware that Putin will be in power. Putin puts them into power a little in the regions, but holds the main power at home.
                      Therefore, this is how they live in Russia, but this is your business. It’s just not necessary to write that the Russians have a real choice or an alternative, Putin destroyed them.
                      1. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 45
                        if the people really were against what prevented voting for prokhorov? what prevented the liberals from stopping squabbling and uniting around prokhorov as a first step, for example? if in 15 million Moscow it was difficult to scrape together 100 and then uniting the monarchists socialists of liberals and LGBT people into a bunch of nationalists, they snapped together, even the Venedikts admitted that after the Crimea many who had turned their backs on the echo of Moscow, if the bulk lost, even though the bulk of it if it’s not even ears dragged the laws changed so that he would participate and lose, and it’s not about the violations and mythical throws Shenderovich, with all my disgust, he admitted that the ass party on the couch won, supporters of bulk trynd and they didn’t come to the polls, they scrambled 000 people at the last rally and it’s with cops and the press, I remember the activist crying saying they are fighting with the redhead and passers-by are laughing at them, I’ve swallowed democracy and liberalism better for 1000 years dictatorship but just it is not there! unfortunately Putin is not Stalin
                      2. -2
                        8 November 2015 20: 49
                        Yes vote do not vote, you still get x .. that is Putin ..
                      3. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 06
                        Dear, we must still respect the choice of Russia and its leader. Even if we do not like him. IMHO.
                      4. +2
                        8 November 2015 21: 18
                        from 91 to 2000 they received Yeltsin and it wasn’t the best time most of the citizens chose Putin, it may or may not like it, but it is a fact, today the GDP enjoys great support in society, thanks a lot to the pro-Western liberals who made hell in the country
                      5. +1
                        8 November 2015 22: 36
                        Quote: Wiski
                        Yes vote do not vote, you still get x .. that is Putin ..

                        Ai-yah, how impolite.
    2. +1
      8 November 2015 12: 12
      You will meet "him" you will wind the peysiki gently on your left hand
      An excellent example of the Great Russian "man". And the pride is that he mocked another unarmed man.
      You would often remind about this here.
      1. +1
        8 November 2015 16: 21
        no better than the opponent
  27. +2
    8 November 2015 11: 40
    Well, I’ve never seen a Jewish fighter in 15 years of fighting. My grandfather had been hunting since 7 (seven) years. Now I’m over 40. I have never seen a Jewish hunter in the taiga.
    1. -1
      8 November 2015 12: 19
      I was looking badly. And not everyone says - a Jew. wassat
  28. +3
    8 November 2015 12: 04
    So we learned the point of view of the Iranian journalist
    about Israel. In my opinion, nothing new.
    1. +3
      8 November 2015 12: 29
      Quote: voyaka uh
      So we learned the point of view of the Iranian journalist
      about Israel. In my opinion, nothing new.

      Why Nile Nothing in Gaza fellow
  29. 0
    8 November 2015 12: 27
    Wiski. Maybe you will come to me in Bratsk, we will go to the taiga, we will hunt.
  30. 0
    8 November 2015 12: 27
    Wiski. Maybe you will come to me in Bratsk, we will go to the taiga, we will hunt.
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 13: 47
      I have a Jewish friend from Rostov who loves hunting.
      And I’m the best suited to shoot Arab terrorists, if I really need to.
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 18: 16
        Quote: Wiski
        Arab terrorists

        And what is Israel called the exciting land of Palestine, bringing death to peaceful Arabs. Or do you say that you shoot and bomb only terrorists exclusively? Is this not a whole terrorist state entity? In this case, I mean exactly Israel.
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 18: 47
          Quote: EvgNik
          And what is Israel called the breathtaking land of Palestine,


          What is Palestine like? What is this?

          bringing death to peaceful Arabs


          Nobody brings death to peaceful Arabs unless terrorists hide behind them.

          . Or do you say that you shoot and bomb only terrorists exclusively?


          Yes, but if terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah are hiding behind civilians, then civilians are dying. However, international law allows the death of civilians, if they were not the goal.

          Of course there are mistakes, but they happen to everyone.
          In the Chechen war, the Russian army made a lot of mistakes and decently killed civilians. And nothing, everyone understands, battles in such places and those who are hiding behind civilians are victims.


          Is this not a whole terrorist state entity? In this case, I mean exactly Israel.


          Of course not. Israel never and never sets a goal for civilians.
  31. 0
    8 November 2015 12: 32
    Wiski. We have in Siberia. Strong wrestlers are Buryats, Yakuts, Tuvans have their nationality. But Jewish fighters are nonsense. Show at least one. I framed it and on the wall.
    1. +2
      8 November 2015 12: 44
      We check who the first of the Soviet wrestlers becomes the Olympic champion. In Helsinki.

      Boris Maksimovich (Maksovich) Gurevich (23 March 1931, Moscow, USSR - 10 January 1995, Moscow, Russia) - Soviet wrestler of the classical (Greco-Roman) style, Olympic champion 1952 of the year, Honored Master of Sports of the USSR (1952), Honored Trainer of Russia . The first Soviet Olympic champion in wrestling.

      And what is characteristic of the Gurevichs:

      Boris Mikhailovich Gurevich (October 8 October 1937, Kiev, Ukrainian SSR, USSR) - Soviet freestyle wrestler, Olympic champion 1968 of the year, two-time world champion (1967, 1969), silver medalist of the world championship (1961), two-time European champion (1967, XNN ), six-time champion of the USSR (1970, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1965, 1966). Honored Master of Sports of the USSR (1967).
    2. 0
      8 November 2015 14: 21
      Quote: Boris Zidkov
      . I framed it and on the wall.

      Zagugli, Boris Zhidkov. Or hold this one.
  32. 0
    8 November 2015 12: 56
    Oh wow, is that all? And where are the Jews hunters?
    1. +3
      8 November 2015 13: 01
      Jewish fighters are nonsense. Show me at least one
      There you have two. Olympic. Champions. So nonsense is still you. And Jewish hunters are now hunting for Arab terrorists.
      1. +6
        8 November 2015 13: 08
        As one Jew in a stand-up said, growing Olympic champions is not an Israeli approach to sports. The Israeli approach is to find out which of the Olympic champions is already a Jew. lol
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 14: 22
          Quote: g1v2
          which of the Olympic champions is already a Jew.

          Exactly!
  33. +1
    8 November 2015 13: 09
    Oh, we don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but where are the Jews wrestlers in Siberia? And the conversation was about Jewish hunters in the taiga. I have never seen a Jewish hunter in the taiga.
    1. +2
      8 November 2015 13: 12
      Didn't you write
      But Jewish fighters are nonsense. Show me at least one
      Here are two, and you wag and evade. It somehow does not remind me of a Siberian hunter wrestler.
    2. +2
      8 November 2015 13: 35
      Quote: Boris Zidkov
      I have never seen a Jewish hunter in the taiga.

      And I did not see, because. in the taiga there were few. But in the desert, under water and in the mountains, I saw enough Jewish hunters.
      It may be enough Jews to be reckoned among the Khabadniks and other antisocial elements.
  34. -1
    8 November 2015 13: 19
    How many Siberian hunters of fighters have you seen?
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 13: 28
      I will be very grateful to you if you don’t go to you, I don’t know you, and otherwise h.
      You want to tell me that for "Siberian hunter-fighters" to wag and evade is a normal line of behavior?
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 13: 42
        Why does your tribe constantly poke and then wag that they are used to poking in Hebrew and carry this poke here. When they poke them, they bring those poking in the hs. So where are the Jewish hunters in the Siberian taiga?
        1. +2
          8 November 2015 13: 51
          I have great pride in my tribe. And I never saw that it lined up and barked at you personally YOU. If there is a separate individual who poked you. jump with him to health. Here, as I happened to make sure several times, they communicate in Russian. And therefore you, if not agreed otherwise. However, you can go to Hebrew, and then it will be to you.
          where are the Jewish hunters in the Siberian taiga?
          Why would they be there?
  35. 0
    8 November 2015 13: 29
    The trajectories of some historical processes connecting the USSR, the USA, NATO, Israel, Zionism and fascism obviously intersect in the biography of General Heusinger. I will give some information from open sources.
    Wikipedia about Adolf Heusinger:
    On October 15, 1940, Colonel Heusinger was appointed chief of the operational department of the General Staff of the Ground Forces.
    After the invasion of the USSR on June 22, 1941, the General Staff of the Ground Forces (OKH) became primarily responsible for planning operations in this theater of operations, and the General Staff of the Armed Forces (OKW) became responsible for other theaters. Heusinger continued to lead the operations department of the General Staff of the ground forces. From January 1942 he became a major general, and from January 1943 - a lieutenant general.
    Since June 10, 1944, in connection with Zeitzler’s disease, Lieutenant General Heusinger became Acting Chief of the General Staff of the Ground Forces.
    On May 8, 1945, Heusinger was captured by US forces.
    In captivity, Heusinger was involved as a witness at the Nuremberg trials.
    Arkady Poltorak about Heusinger and fascism:
    I recall his testimony in 1945, which was announced at a meeting of the International Tribunal. Like Bach-Zelevsky, Heusinger was asked who ordered and who carried out operations against participants in the Resistance movement. And Heusinger stated:
    - Directives regarding methods of conducting operations against partisans were issued by OKW and OKH according to Hitler’s orders and after consultations with Himmler.
    He further admits that it was the General Staff and the Wehrmacht led by him that carried out the gravest crimes against the civilian population:
    - The command of the land army was responsible for the transfer of orders that established the basic principles for conducting punitive expeditions against the population.
    In his testimony, Heusinger found a good understanding of the goals that the Nazi party pursued during the war, and along with it the General Staff. He stated:
    - My personal opinion has always been that the treatment of the civilian population and the methods of waging anti-guerrilla warfare in the areas of operations, approved by senior military and political leaders, have contributed to the implementation of plans for the systematic destruction of Slavism and Jewry.
  36. +1
    8 November 2015 13: 30
    To be continued. Wikipedia about Heusinger and NATO:
    June 30, 1947 he was released from captivity.
    In 1948-1950 he collaborated with the "Organization of Gehlen."
    In 1950, Heusinger became military adviser to the first Federal Chancellor of Germany, Konrad Adenauer.
    In 1951, a German consultant in negotiations on the establishment of the European Defense Community.
    From 1952 to 1955 he was the head of the military department at the Blanca Office, which was later transformed into the Federal Ministry of Defense.
    In June 1955, the Bundeswehr armed forces were organized, and Heusinger returned to military service. In November 1955, he received the rank of lieutenant general and was appointed chairman of the military governing council.
    In March 1957, he replaced General Hans Speidel as head of the department of the armed forces of the German Ministry of Defense.
    In June 1957, Heusinger was promoted to the rank of full general and became the first inspector general of the Bundeswehr.
    In April 1961, Heusinger was appointed Chairman of the NATO Military Committee in Washington.
    Wikipedia on US-Israeli relations and Heusinger:
    In May 1961, the first meeting of the new American President John F. Kennedy with Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion took place. In early 1962, countries signed an extradition treaty, and on December 27 of that year, President Kennedy announced "special relations" between the United States and Israel in the Middle East and the supply of military equipment to Israel.
    Starting with the supply of exclusively defensive weapons, for example, the MIM-23 Hawk, by the mid-1960s, the United States began to supply offensive weapons. In addition, the United States contributes to the West German weapons supplied to Israel under the compensation agreement.
    In March 1964, Heusinger resigned from military service.
    Wikipedia about Heusinger, fascism and the USSR:
    In December 1961, the USSR unsuccessfully demanded that the United States extradite Heusinger, declaring him a war criminal, guilty of the massacre of civilians on the territory of the USSR. (see Koryukovskaya tragedy).
    The punitive action in Kryukovka was ordered by the chief of staff of the 399th main field commandant's office, Baer Bruno Franz.
    Koryukovskaya tragedy - the massacre of civilians in the village of Koryukovka, Chernihiv region, committed on March 1-2, 1943 by SS troops, the Ukrainian auxiliary police and soldiers of the Hungarian 105th light division. As a result of the punitive action, about 6700 people died, which is many times more than the famous massacres in the Belarusian Khatyn, Czech Lidice and French Oradour and makes it the largest in the Second World War.
    And here Zionism, of course, will be asked by our former and some real fellow citizens. I will answer this question with a question: did I get the impression that this general, in word and deed, served the interests of Zionism no later than from 1945 to 1964?
    1. -2
      8 November 2015 13: 59
      Yeah, you have one.
      1. +2
        8 November 2015 18: 21
        Quote: Wiski
        Yeah, you have one.

        Why, not only.
        1. 0
          8 November 2015 18: 48
          But then try to explain the connection, because from the quotes it is not visible in any way.
  37. +5
    8 November 2015 14: 20
    Good conversation is going on ..... wassat
    1. -1
      8 November 2015 14: 35
      Yeah, a man pretends to be religious and he’ll be ridiculous.
  38. mvg
    0
    8 November 2015 14: 45
    Quote: Vladimir 1964
    Quote: miru mir
    In my opinion, it is not entirely adequate.


    But abruptly McCain will be. laughing

    Or maybe the direct teleconference McCain - Zhirinovsky? And with the money raised from this show, you can buy something useful. There will be a lot of money, the audience will swing.
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 16: 22
      Quote: mvg

      Or maybe the direct teleconference McCain - Zhirinovsky? And with the money raised from this show, you can buy something useful. There will be a lot of money, the audience will swing.

      And the Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahu need them in the company, he recently justified Hitler.
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 16: 54
        so a fellow triber, even though he’s lost and his own!
      2. -1
        8 November 2015 21: 52
        Quote: quilted jacket
        he recently justified Hitler

        You're lying like Trotsky again, mahmud laughing He said about your fellow Nazi collaborator
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 22: 30
          Quote: miru mir
          You lie again as Trotsky, mahmud laughing. He spoke about your fellow Nazi collaborator

          Are you miru mir or is it right Izzy Katzman? smile just because of your level of "development" you cannot understand what your prime minister said so - Hitler did not want to kill the Jews but wanted to evict them to the Middle East, and some mullah advised him to kill them.
          That is, Hitler, according to him, was not a maniac-killer but the one who wanted the creation of the state of Israel.
          Has it reached you at last?
          1. +3
            8 November 2015 22: 42
            My dear mahmud, my name is Yegor Grigoriev. And you know this for a long time. But Bibi said that Hitler and the alahbabahnutny mufti El Husseini, helping the Nazis to form the SS troops, two pair boots.
  39. 0
    8 November 2015 15: 14
    Wiski. Here you wrote. "The maximum is good for Arab terrorists to shoot" I have seen a lot during my service in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces. I served in the Caucasus and Central Asia. For me, that areabs that Jews are one hamman ob.r.ez. .and.
    1. 0
      8 November 2015 15: 44
      It seems that you were there and shell-shocked that you are descending to the level of cattle calling different peoples sad
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 16: 06
        It’s very good that finally it’s true, although slowly and bit by bit, that Israel finances and leads terrorists in the BV (and most likely not only in the BV but the rest of the world), it is slowly starting to break through into the light and become accessible to all.
        By the way about the fact that Israel is allegedly in "friendly" relations with Jordan and Egypt, as the Jews of Israel claim here. In fact, they have "good" relations exclusively with the leadership of these countries, to a greater extent with Jordan.
        The common people of both Egypt and Jordan hate Israel:
        The Bedouins urge the King of Jordan to start a war for the “liberation of Jerusalem”
        More than fifty leaders of the Bedouin communities issued a joint statement calling on King Abdullah II of Jordan to create a “people's militia,” which, along with the Jordanian army, will “free Jerusalem”.
        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/10/27/beduini-izrailya-prizivayut-kor

        olya-iordanii-nachat-voynu-za-osvobozhdenie-ierusalima /
        1. +1
          8 November 2015 16: 17
          Well, what Israeli soldiers are doing now in the Palestinian lands they occupy cannot be described at all.
          The tortures and killings of Arabs take such proportions that outrage is growing throughout the world:
          Human rights defenders accuse Israel of extrajudicial killings
          The international human rights organization Amnesty International released a statement in which Israel is accused of the willful and unmotivated killing of Palestinians by Israeli military personnel. According to the authors of the statement, they are talking about "extrajudicial executions".
          http://9tv.co.il/news/2015/10/29/216109.html
          1. +2
            8 November 2015 17: 18
            Oh yeah, sure Amnesty International is such a credible organization, right?

            Well then, of course, you believe and agree with what they wrote, for example, in 2009 -

            Amnesty International accused Russia of "lawlessness in the North Caucasus", noting that the numerous violations of human rights in this region do not allow us to talk about normalizing the situation.

            "There has been and remains a complete lack of political will in the region to enforce the rule of law and overcome the impunity that accompanies present and past human rights violations," the London-based human rights organization said in a 48-page report.

            Human rights activists refer to the stories of eyewitnesses who observed indiscriminate killings, the facts of the use of so-called “Excessive force”, killing and torture of detainees and other human rights violations in Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan and Kabardino-Balkaria.

            People detained without apparent “legal grounds” are being held in secret prisons, “many of these facts can be characterized as kidnappings, relatives of the disappeared are intimidated, there are cases of people being expelled from their homes,” the report said.

            The organization notes that it is impossible to give exact figures on the scale of the crimes, in particular due to the fact that the relatives of the victims are systematically intimidated.



            Or newer


            mnesty International: Russia commits war crimes
            Recently, Amnesty International personnel in Donbass have noted heavy losses on both sides of the military conflict, said Amnesty International Secretary General Salil Shetty. “We believe that Russia is committing war crimes, moreover, recently our personnel in Donbass have seen large casualties on both sides, "Shetty said.
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 17: 33
              Quote: Wiski
              Or newer

              And who saw the Russian regular troops in the Donbass?
              Maybe you saw? so show us.
              But the Israeli army was killing and beating men, children, women, everyone saw:
              Terrible Israeli military five mocking an unarmed Arab
              1. -1
                8 November 2015 18: 13
                Show you videos of how Russians are killed in Chechnya? Or will not we all the same?
                So I did not understand, do you agree with Amnesty International regarding Russia or not? Their reports are built in the same way as the one you brought.

                As for the video, in Israel all this is investigated and taken measures and punished.
                And so it is enough to go on a spree like "the Russian military is beating" and there are enough examples of the violence of Russian soldiers and not only soldiers, but also policemen and others. True, I hope that Russia is still investigating this.
                1. 0
                  8 November 2015 18: 23
                  Quote: Wiski
                  Show you videos of how Russians are being killed in Chechnya? Or are we not going to do it all the same?

                  Come on, show it.
                  Only in these two cases is there a huge difference - Russia fought in Chechnya on its territory where gangs of terrorists seized power, but you kill and mock Arabs on their land that is temporarily occupied by Jews and formed a state called Israel whose borders are not recognized by more than one country in the world .
                  Do you understand the difference?
                  1. -3
                    8 November 2015 18: 40
                    Do you understand the difference?


                    Understandable - according to your logic, Russians can be killed, raped civilians justifying it with the fact that this is for the sake of their territory.


                    you are killing and mocking the Arabs precisely on their land, temporarily occupied by the Jews and the state that formed there under the name Israel, whose current borders are not recognized by more than one country in the world.


                    Oh, wey, we kill, oh, we’ll be bullied, just like the Russians, who justify this by saying that this is for their own territory. laughing

                    In fact, such violence is everywhere and always. This was done by Russians and Americans and others.

                    And this land is ours, it is not occupied because in order to occupy something, it is necessary that there is something sovereign before that and now we are not here temporarily forever.

                    Come on, show it.


                    1. 0
                      8 November 2015 18: 45
                      "according to your logic, Russians can kill, rape civilians, justifying this by the fact that it is for the sake of their territory." Yes, that's right, and if you acted within your borders, then there would be no dispute
                      1. 0
                        8 November 2015 18: 53
                        Yes, that’s how it would be and if you acted within your borders there would be no dispute


                        Oh, let’s justify the terror and killings of civilians. What's next? Do you yourself go to water civilians for your territory?

                        Where Israel operates, there is no dispute either. The borders are not defined anywhere, not a single resolution (all of them are either advisory or not valid), which is confirmed by the Oslo and others agreements, where the borders are negotiations.
                      2. -1
                        8 November 2015 19: 04
                        UN Security Council - far from advisory. Your hyperactivity is very revealing: it is clearly visible that you are trying to justify the blood that Israel pours.

                        And it’s obvious for himself to justify it, and not for the readers of the site, since your opinions are very subjective and plentifully flavored by Israeli propaganda.

                        Be healthy :)
                      3. -1
                        8 November 2015 19: 14
                        Quote: Dagen
                        UN Security Council - far from advisory.



                        Learn the mate part -

                        According to the UN Charter, the Security Council can make decisions (Articles 39, 41, 42) and recommendations (Articles 36, 39, 40). Decisions of the Security Council are binding on States, while recommendations are not. 7 The recommendations can be considered as an expression of the opinion of an authoritative international body, as a prerequisite for the legitimacy of the state’s activities in accordance with the requirements of the resolution8, or even serve as a confirmation of the validity of the use of force in self-defense (resolution 83 (1950)) 9. The UN Charter does not fix specific sanctions for non-compliance with recommendations, however, the Council has the right to take into account the fact of non-compliance (Article 40).





                        Quote: Dagen
                        justify the blood that Israel pours.


                        Of course we do with leat and matzo. Oh no, we just eat babies. laughing
                      4. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 06
                        Uti ways. Do not UN resolutions on Israel exist in your world? After each regular war, such Security Council resolutions (not recommendations) appeared. West Bank, Golan, East Jerusalem - offhand.

                        However, all the same word for word was already discussed in the comments on this site with other Israelis.
                      5. 0
                        8 November 2015 19: 48
                        Chechen territory is much more important than its population; maintaining territorial integrity justifies any victims
                      6. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 18
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        Chechen territory is much more important than its population; maintaining territorial integrity justifies any victims

                        Oh how. You are so sensitive and Hitler will begin to quote
                      7. -1
                        8 November 2015 20: 55
                        if I were a German, I would probably support Hitler, but it so happened that he brought a lot of evil to my people, although I approve of his internal policy regarding Germany
                      8. 0
                        8 November 2015 21: 48
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        if I were a German, I would probably support Hitler, but it so happened that he brought a lot of evil to my people, although I approve of his domestic policy regarding Germany

                        So you are a Nazi convinced?
                      9. 0
                        9 November 2015 00: 11
                        Regardless of what is meant by the word "Nazism" for me, the preservation of the country's sovereignty, its territorial integrity and the possibility of expanding borders are top priorities along with the development of the army and industry, respectively, science, but relying on the history and culture of the people, but the idea of ​​taking over the whole world was the height of idiocy Fuehrer I admit it
                      10. -2
                        8 November 2015 20: 20
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        Chechen territory is much more important than its population; maintaining territorial integrity justifies any victims


                        That is why they gave it to Kadyrov, who does what he wants there?
                      11. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 54
                        Kadyrov is loyal, it was necessary and fought in Georgia, it was necessary to go to Ukraine today the order on the territory of Chechnya is supported by the Chechens themselves, this removed the need to keep the army there, as long as he is loyal and does not pretend to secession, let him do what he wants
                    2. +1
                      8 November 2015 20: 02
                      Quote: Wiski
                      Understandable - according to your logic, Russians can be killed, raped civilians justifying it with the fact that this is for the sake of their territory

                      Russians, unlike you, do not kill anyone. Moreover, more civilians. Yes, they destroy the terrorists.
                      Quote: Wiski
                      And this land is ours, it is not occupied because in order to occupy something, it is necessary that there is something sovereign before that and not temporarily, we are here forever

                      Your land, as you say, is much smaller and you have taken the rest from the Palestinians by force.

                      By the way, about the video that you gave where the Chechens are killed is written below:
                      Stills from the movie "The Search" (2014).
                      These are storytellers. smile
                      1. -1
                        8 November 2015 20: 19
                        Quote: quilted jacket

                        Your land, as you say, is much smaller and you have taken the rest from the Palestinians by force.

                        By the way, about the video that you gave where the Chechens are killed is written below:
                        Stills from the movie "The Search" (2014).
                        These are storytellers.

                        Vatnichek, hello, my charm (s)! Where did you wander around, I missed 8))
                      2. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 47
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Hatchet, hello, my dear

                        You know, when I read such appeals to people from your side, like - my friend, dear, lovely - I become more and more confident (and I’m not alone smile ) that you were sent to Russia by the local LGBT community of Israel, so that you would spread the ideals of homosexuality among the inhabitants of our country.
                        So pimpy understand finally in our country you can’t find a same-sex couple, go to your Israel there people with your orientation in high esteem lol
                      3. -1
                        8 November 2015 20: 33
                        Russians, unlike you, do not kill anyone. Moreover, more civilians. Yes, they destroy the terrorists.


                        I brought that video. I can bring more.
                        But apparently you are blind wassat


                        Your land, as you say, is much smaller and you have taken the rest from the Palestinians by force.


                        They didn’t take it away, but occupied the territories when the Arabs once again tried to destroy Israel. Given that the Arabs did not accept the resolution on division, then they had no land.



                        By the way, about the video that you gave where the Chechens are killed is written below:
                        Stills from the movie "The Search" (2014).
                        These are storytellers.


                        oppa error.


                        Well this is also a good video -
                      4. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 56
                        Quote: Wiski
                        I brought that video. I can bring more.
                        But apparently you are blind

                        I already answered you your first video from the movie where the actors play there below and its name and who plays the main role is written.
                        Quote: Wiski
                        Not taken away, but occupied territories

                        Well, if correctly expressed, the feasts expelled from there the indigenous local inhabitants of the Arabs and settled the Jews in their place.
                        Quote: Wiski
                        Well this is also a good video

                        Again there are no injured children, not women, not old people, but only men of military age, apparently militants.
                        In short you are a citizen laughing
                    3. +1
                      9 November 2015 13: 04
                      Beautiful movie, cinematic. Filmed well. Moreover, for some reason, not a single insignia or chevron enters the frame. wink And all according to the laws of cinema - an evil ivan pushes speech angrily laughing and shoots the unfortunate Selyuk. And at the same time he doesn’t forget to shoot it all in decent quality - probably to make it easier for the military prosecutor’s office with evidence. good And by the way, what was they filming for? During the Chechen wars, only very wealthy people had mobile phones with good cameras - not like now. In general, a very good setting - I put five points and propose to nominate for an Oscar. There, a short film, like evil Ivanes killing a peaceful village, will definitely take the first prize. Well, I laughed, which is also good after a night shift. Yes
                2. +1
                  8 November 2015 18: 43
                  Quote: Wiski
                  And just walk something like

                  Google is a search engine of an anti-Russian, pro-state orientation, so that it still will not give out. By the way, it was he who betrayed that Ukraine was a 404 error.
                  1. -1
                    8 November 2015 18: 54
                    I would understand if it weren’t true. And so, what's the difference. It seems to you anti-Russian, but in fact a completely normal search engine.

                    By the way, it was he who betrayed that Ukraine was a 404 error.


                    Well, and you are anti-Russian, anti-Russian.
                3. 0
                  8 November 2015 18: 43
                  that's just the Russians have the right to kill at least in Chechnya, even in Dagestan because it is within the borders of our country that we are doing our job at home, you can kill all Arabs of Israel tomorrow, I won’t say a word, but you went beyond your borders and that’s another conversation
                  1. +1
                    8 November 2015 18: 55
                    Quote: anti-Semite
                    then we do this at home


                    Oh my friend, you support the terror and the killing of civilians.
                    Tomorrow your parents will be put on pitchfork by comrades with similar thinking and what will you do?
                    1. +1
                      8 November 2015 19: 53
                      I am Russian is my country and for the sake of preserving its borders I take any action, especially since there is no division into peaceful and non-peaceful, there are those loyal to the authorities and non-loyal firsts who need to receive support, the latter should be neutralized without discounts on gender and age if Israel cleared 1 times established a strict order for gas and returned the law, and there would be no talk, but while you torture yourself and them
                      1. +2
                        8 November 2015 20: 20
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        I am Russian is my country and for the sake of preserving its borders I take any action, especially since there is no division into peaceful and non-peaceful, there are those loyal to the authorities and non-loyal firsts who need to receive support, the latter should be neutralized without discounts on gender and age if Israel cleared 1 times established a strict order for gas and returned the law, and there would be no talk, but while you torture yourself and them


                        Are you not afraid to accidentally fall into disloyal? Mistaken, or just in case - like many too loyal - under the knife. There Yagoda and Yezhov - what were loyal, and then - once, and disloyal, and even enemies of the people of 8)
                      2. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 33
                        Quote: Pimply
                        There Yagoda and Yezhov - what were loyal, and then - once, and disloyal, and even enemies of the people

                        As I understand it, this is all from the same opera - about the millions who were tortured by the bloody Stalinist regime and the possible arrival of a no less bloody regime now?
                        Calm down, for God's sake! And under Stalin, what was put to him in perestroika - it’s necessary to divide by 10, but now it’s not even close to such a regime. And the fact that you remembered Yezhov and Yagoda is very revealing: both the Russian (well, almost — his mother was Lithuanian), and the Jew, who received almost unlimited power and were smeared in blood, in the end, got what they deserved! This is only a plus mode. In the negative - that they generally had such authority.
                      3. +1
                        8 November 2015 20: 42
                        This is only in plus mode
                        So then it is, only the subsequent ones received the same power. Maybe at the conservatory?
                      4. 0
                        8 November 2015 20: 59
                        berry and hedgehogs just like Tukhachevsky just from yours, Stalin cleaned them up and correctly made order possible only with tough power chewing snot people cost more than any dictatorship
                      5. +1
                        8 November 2015 21: 49
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        berry and hedgehogs just like Tukhachevsky just from yours, Stalin cleaned them up and correctly made order possible only with tough power chewing snot people cost more than any dictatorship

                        All of ours. And then bam - and you, too, are ours, and you have a trunk to the back of your head, and you are surprised and shout - like so, I’m mine!
                      6. +1
                        9 November 2015 00: 12
                        read less Solzhenitsyn and Novodvorskaya
                      7. +1
                        9 November 2015 09: 40
                        Quote: Pimply
                        all of ours. And then bam - and you, too, are ours, and you have a trunk to the back of your head, and you are surprised and shout - like so, I’m mine!

                        good Everything is true, but you cannot evaluate the cruelty of people without reference to the era! In the country - the beacon of democracy, millions perished from hunger in the 30s, and at the same time thousands of tons of food were destroyed there to maintain demand, but now no one remembers this. Or how the state arranged natural genocide on certain groups of its own citizens - in addition to Indians and Negroes, these were ethnic Japanese and Germans; about rampant crime in the same place and draconian methods of fighting it, when at the same time hundreds of innocents were destroyed. And no one will remember what happened in England, France, not to mention Germany, Italy, Spain, Romania, Poland. They also forgot everything. And everyone always remembers the "bloody crimes of communism", although they were not something outstanding compared to what was happening all over the world in those years.
        2. -1
          8 November 2015 17: 05
          This is as true as the fact that Russia is an aggressor and an occupier.
          1. +1
            8 November 2015 17: 21
            Quote: Wiski
            This is as true as the fact that Russia is an aggressor and an occupier.

            Of course, of course, I didn’t even doubt that you would justify Israel - this is a state built on the blood and bones of the Palestinian Arabs.
            Well read these statements of your prosecutor’s office. Although the evidence that Jewish soldiers in Israel are brutally murdering Arabs without trial and investigation is understandable.
            Prosecutor's Office: IDF soldiers tortured Palestinian
            4 fighters of the Netzah Yehuda battalion are today charged with ill-treatment of arrested Palestinians.
            The indictment states that in one of the cases, the soldiers used a medical device to torture the detainee with electric current, while filming what was happening on a cell phone.
            Yesterday, military police arrested seven Netzah Yehuda fighters. This unit consists mainly of religious orthodoxy. The military prosecutor's office believes that those arrested participated in three different episodes of bullying of those arrested.
            http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/10/29/prokuratura--soldati-cahala-pit
            ali-tokom-palestinca --- /
            1. -2
              8 November 2015 18: 34
              Quote: quilted jacket
              it is a state built on the blood and bones of the Palestinian Arabs.


              Given that the Palestinian Arabs arose as a concept only in the 60s, and that the Arab countries themselves drove them and did not give them the state of Jordan for 40 years, Egypt was 17 years old.

              Arab leaders and the Arab Liberation Army urged urban and rural Arab populations to evacuate in order to facilitate the success of the Arabs' attack and then take over Jewish homes.
              Mahmoud Abbas (Filastin A-Thawra, March 1976) wrote: "The Arab armies forced the Palestinians to leave their homes."

              Khaled al-Azam, Syrian Prime Minister (memoirs, 1973): “We brought refugees to disaster, urging them to leave their homes.”
              Jordanian daily Palestine (February 19, 1949): "Arab states ... incited Palestinians to temporarily leave their homes so as not to interfere with the invasion of the Arab armies."
              Al-Ayyam daily newspaper (May 13, 2008): “The Arab Liberation Army told the Palestinians:“ Leave your homes and villages, and you will be back in a few days. If you leave them, then we will be able to fulfill our mission ... ""



              King Hussein of Jordan, at a meeting of the League of Arab States in Amman in November 1987, said: “The emergence of a Palestinian national community as a people was a response to the claim that Palestine belongs to the Jews.

              It is quite clear who the responsibility is in the Arab countries, not to mention what exactly the Arabs rejected the resolution on the creation of two states and went to war on the Jews.

              But the Jews only took their toll and nothing more.


              Well read these statements of your prosecutor’s office. Although the evidence that Jewish soldiers in Israel are brutally murdering Arabs without trial and investigation is understandable.


              Just like the Russians kill without trial, and Ukrainians and others.


              Prosecutor's Office: IDF soldiers tortured Palestinian
              4 fighters of the Netzah Yehuda battalion today charged with ill-treatment of arrested Palestinians


              You see - in Israel they catch and punish.


              But the Russian ones ... there is a clear problem with this .. although they committed atrocities no less -

              On February 5, New Alds were cleared by two units, which behaved differently. The unit, clearing the southern side of the village, robbed the house, but did not commit murders. The unit that cleared the north side (namely, the OMON police department of the St. Petersburg police) killed 56 people (counting 10 people killed in neighboring areas of Grozny), including 6 women, 11 old people from 60 years and older (the oldest born in 1924); among those killed there was a one-year-old baby (Khasan Estamirov) and a woman at 9 months of pregnancy (Toita Estamirova). According to Novaya Gazeta, witnesses claimed that 49-year-old Sultan Temirov had his head cut off and his body thrown to dogs. Mostly Chechens killed by nationality, also two Russians (including Elena Kuznetsova, 70 years old). The average age of those killed was 44 years. On the same day, murders were committed in the surrounding areas of Grozny. Some managed to pay off. Witnesses claimed that there could have been more victims if the village doctor Aset Chadayev had not run through the yards and forced people to go out and gather in a crowd.

              According to Human Rights Watch, there have been incidents of arson and rape.
              й
              1. +1
                8 November 2015 18: 49
                So what? we at home what we want and we do our squabbles with Chechens did not go outside the country, no one forbids you to restore order in Israel the question is why do you climb into Syria
              2. -3
                8 November 2015 19: 20
                Quote: Wiski
                Just like the Russians kill without trial, and Ukrainians and others.

                But for this minus without any doubt. Do not tell my slippers - the Russians kill the Ukrainians, and even without trial! Ek skidded you! And not vice versa? Ukrainians kill Russians, not Russians but Russians. So it will be more true.
                1. 0
                  8 November 2015 19: 22
                  Quote: EvgNik
                  But for this minus without any doubt. Do not tell my slippers - the Russians kill the Ukrainians, and even without trial! Ek skidded you! And not vice versa? Ukrainians kill Russians, not Russians but Russians. So it will be more true.


                  Well, you fantasize and I can.
                  Here's how you got it - Ukrainian Ukrainians, and even without trial laughing
              3. +1
                8 November 2015 19: 20
                Quote: Wiski
                But the Jews only took their toll and nothing more.

                Well then, tell me, when was the Jewish state (if there was of course) the last time three or four hundred years ago? And where were the Jews, if in 1800 there were only 20 thousand of them in the land of Israel?
                Yes, it wasn’t you there who ever seized a foreign land belonging to the Arabs, along with the one that was allocated to you and are now inventing fairy tales.
                Quote: Wiski
                You see - in Israel they catch and punish

                Four maniacs were allegedly caught and the rest are freely mocking at the Arabs.
                Quote: Wiski
                But Russian .. this is a clear problem.

                So show the atrocities of the Russian army?
                You can’t, but I will show you Israeli atrocities:

                1. -1
                  8 November 2015 19: 41
                  they seized a foreign land belonging to the Arabs, along with the one that you have been allocated and are now inventing fairy tales.


                  Once again, to whom did the land belong after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire?
                  To the Arabs? No.
                  What are you lying to then.

                  Four maniacs were allegedly caught and the rest are freely mocking at the Arabs.


                  That's what they say about Russians.


                  So show the atrocities of the Russian army?
                  You can’t, but I will show you Israeli atrocities:


                  Showed above. Look.
                  Are these atrocities? The loss of civilian life that terrorists hide behind is not atrocities. Beatings, yes, they happen, as in other countries, but in Israel they always severely punish them.


                  There were atrocities in Chechnya, atrocities in Aladah -

                  On February 5, New Alds were cleared by two units, which behaved differently. The unit, clearing the southern side of the village, robbed the house, but did not commit murders. The unit that cleared the north side (namely, the OMON police department of the St. Petersburg police) killed 56 people (counting 10 people killed in neighboring areas of Grozny), including 6 women, 11 old people from 60 years and older (the oldest born in 1924); among those killed there was a one-year-old baby (Khasan Estamirov) and a woman at 9 months of pregnancy (Toita Estamirova). According to Novaya Gazeta, witnesses claimed that 49-year-old Sultan Temirov had his head cut off and his body thrown to dogs. Mostly Chechens killed by nationality, also two Russians (including Elena Kuznetsova, 70 years old). The average age of those killed was 44 years. On the same day, murders were committed in the surrounding areas of Grozny. Some managed to pay off. Witnesses claimed that there could have been more victims if the village doctor Aset Chadayev had not run through the yards and forced people to go out and gather in a crowd.

                  According to a Human Rights Watch report, there were incidents of arson and rape.



                  1. +1
                    8 November 2015 20: 35
                    Quote: Wiski
                    Once again, to whom did the land belong after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire?
                    To the Arabs? No.

                    Well, enlighten me - really the Jews laughing
                    There were 20 Jews out of 400 local residents, mostly Arabs.
                    Quote: Wiski
                    That's what they say about Russians.

                    No need to lie Russia has never committed aggression against other countries and has not committed atrocities on foreign territory.
                    Quote: Wiski
                    There were atrocities in Chechnya, atrocities in Aladah

                    Well, what did you show?
                    Not a single killed child or woman is there. The men killed are militants.
                    And probably this farce was shot either by Politkovskaya or some sort of Babchenko.
                    1. 0
                      8 November 2015 20: 45
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      There were 20 Jews out of 400 local residents, mostly Arabs.


                      Minister in Hamas government in Gaza Fathi Hamad:

                      ... Glory to Allah, we all have Arab roots, every Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank can boast of ancestors from Saudi Arabia, Yemen or elsewhere. We are all connected by blood ties. <> I'll tell you about myself. I am half Egyptian. There are 30 clans living in Gaza with the surname al-Masri (Egyptian). Brothers! Half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis! Who are the Palestinians? Yes, these are people whose ancestors moved here from Cairo, Alexandria, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are all Egyptians! ...



                      It's not about quantity. In the North Caucasus, how many Russians live and what?


                      No need to lie Russia has never committed aggression against other countries and has not committed atrocities on foreign territory.


                      Israel also never committed any aggression. The Arabs did it, but they got it in the ass.


                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      Well, what did you show?
                      Not a single killed child or woman is there. The men killed are militants.
                      And probably this farce was shot either by Politkovskaya or some sort of Babchenko.



                      sure sure
                      On February 5, New Alds were cleared by two units, which behaved differently. The unit, clearing the southern side of the village, robbed the house, but did not commit murders. The unit that cleared the north side (namely, the OMON police department of the St. Petersburg police) killed 56 people (counting 10 people killed in neighboring areas of Grozny), including 6 women, 11 old people from 60 years and older (the oldest born in 1924); among those killed there was a one-year-old baby (Khasan Estamirov) and a woman at 9 months of pregnancy (Toita Estamirova).
                      1. +2
                        8 November 2015 21: 33
                        Quote: Wiski
                        It's not about quantity.

                        In this case, it’s in quantity because if you lived there so long ago that no one remembers it.
                        Quote: Wiski
                        Israel also never committed any aggression.

                        Why, you who and who occupied Palestine and who attacked Egypt in 1956, and who attacked the Arab countries in 1967, and who attacked Lebanon in 1982,2006.
                        Yes, you are still the aggressors.
                        Quote: Wiski
                        sure sure

                        Of course of course smile
      2. +1
        8 November 2015 16: 26
        This is said by the one who regularly calls the Palestinians Russian Persians? ))) not for you here to talk about "cattle"
      3. +1
        8 November 2015 17: 05
        Quote: Wiski
        It seems that you were there and shell-shocked that you are descending to the level of cattle calling different peoples

        As they say - Whose cow would moo.
        It is from you that some of the citizens of Israel pour here streams of lies and hatred towards other nations that are not Jews.
        Although he can still wait for them, ardent xenophobes for whom people of other nationalities and religions are just goyim.
        1. -2
          8 November 2015 18: 36
          Quote: quilted jacket
          It is from you that some of the citizens of Israel pour here streams of lies and hatred towards other nations that are not Jews.
          Although he can still wait for them, ardent xenophobes for whom people of other nationalities and religions are just goyim.


          It's fun to read this from an ardent anti-Semite.
          Streams are just the main ones from people like you.
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 18: 51
            Quote: Wiski
            The flows are just the main ones from people like you

            I only expose the lies that you are here - bear.
            But you have lies and hatred of other people in every word.
            1. 0
              8 November 2015 19: 11
              You rather exposed yourself by showing your lies and hatred. However, everyone here knows you, an ardent anti-Semite with complexes.
              1. 0
                8 November 2015 20: 10
                Quote: Wiski
                You rather exposed yourself by showing your lies and hate

                And I just don’t have them - it’s only the ability of citizens like you lol
                1. 0
                  8 November 2015 20: 34
                  Mdya, you also have a split personality what
                  1. +1
                    8 November 2015 21: 11
                    Quote: Wiski
                    Mdya, you also have a split personality

                    I have?
                    I don’t need to attribute my diseases lol
  40. -1
    8 November 2015 16: 13
    We had such time in Russia. My generation passed hot spots on the territory of the USSR. Personally, I have 3 (three). I have colleagues who have 5 (five) hot spots behind me. And to the collapse of the USSR. And to the revolution and to many troubles, your tribe had a hand in it, made good money. So the torn paisas are a little to you for all our troubles. And I have 3 (three) shell shocks.
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 16: 45
      And to the revolution
      There is a branch nearby that the Bolsheviks saved Russia.
      your tribe had a hand in it
      So it’s like in a joke, “You, Petrovs, you don’t understand, she’s good, he’s bad.”
      My close friend in Israel, you have passed two such points, but remained a man.
      So torn pace
      But please remind about this more often. Homeland must know its heroes.
      1. 0
        8 November 2015 17: 21
        Stalin saved Russia when in 37 he cleaned the country from the fiery gevolutionaries of the Leninists, and what do you care about our Motherland?
        1. -1
          8 November 2015 18: 59
          Quote: anti-Semite
          Stalin saved Russia when in 37 he cleaned the country from the fiery gevolutionaries of the Leninists, and what do you care about our Motherland?


          And what about ours? What are you standing around discussing how the Jews live, where is their land and so on. Solve your problems.
          1. -1
            8 November 2015 19: 08
            Quote: Wiski
            And what about ours? What are you standing around discussing how the Jews live, where is their land and so on. Solve your problems.

            I do not condone him, but he is not at all worried about the Israelis. He is worried about the Palestinians. And at the same time for the adjacent territories that Israel occupied, going far beyond its borders (defined by the UN Security Council).
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 19: 20
              He is worried about the Palestinians. And at the same time for the adjacent territories that Israel occupied, going far beyond its borders (defined by the UN Security Council).


              With his nickname, it's clear who he is worried about.

              The UN cannot define boundaries. There was a resolution and the Arabs did not accept it and went to war. The resolution is advisory and could have been valid if two sides had accepted it.

              That is why the territories differ from resolution to resolution.

              If you look at the division of 47 years, before the call (recommendatory) in resolution 242 already to another territory. And Oslo’s agreements are also different, and now they’re already talking - the same US about the preservation of 70-80% of settlements.
              1. +1
                8 November 2015 20: 33
                Quote: Wiski
                The UN cannot define boundaries.

                The Israeli Foreign Ministry does not agree with you, since Israel is still a member of the UN as a full member, which means it agrees with the UN Charter :)
                1. 0
                  8 November 2015 20: 46
                  And where is it stated in the UN charter that the UN can define borders?
                  1. +3
                    8 November 2015 22: 38
                    Quote: Wiski
                    And where is it stated in the UN charter that the UN can define borders?

                    The UN may condemn and demand the return of the occupied territories. And Israel, in response, will spin the propaganda of the Israelis about good Israelis defending themselves against the hordes of Arabs and continue the occupation and destruction of the State of Palestine (as of 2014, 135 of the 193 UN member states recognized this state). And then Kiril will come to topwar.ru and will tell you very important things that only he understands.
                  2. +1
                    9 November 2015 05: 18
                    Quote: Wiski
                    And where is it stated in the UN charter that the UN can define borders?

                    If you do not agree with the UN, then return to the territory in which lived from 50 to 55000 thousand Jews before the creation of Israel. And you will be happy.
          2. +1
            8 November 2015 19: 56
            I don’t need your Israel for free, only Tartus and Latakia are practically our territory and you are hindering us diligently to gain a foothold there, which means we are getting into our affairs
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 20: 21
              Quote: anti-Semite
              I don’t need your Israel for free, only Tartus and Latakia are practically our territory and you are hindering us diligently to gain a foothold there, which means we are getting into our affairs


              Oh, and when is it?
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 21: 01
                since our president decided that we needed these bases and the Syrian authorities approved the deployment of our troops
            2. -1
              8 November 2015 20: 35
              Yours Oh wow fantasies what stormy laughing
              1. +2
                8 November 2015 21: 25
                Crimea was Ukraine a couple of years ago, nothing is permanent in this world, the Allavite region as part of Russia is not bad at all, and the coast there is excellent
    2. +1
      8 November 2015 17: 20
      Quote: Boris Zidkov
      We had such time in Russia. My generation passed hot spots on the territory of the USSR. Personally, I have 3 (three). I have colleagues who have 5 (five) hot spots behind me. And to the collapse of the USSR. And to the revolution and to many troubles, your tribe had a hand in it, made good money. So the torn paisas are a little to you for all our troubles. And I have 3 (three) shell shocks.

      Something I doubt, I’m very much sir that you are going somewhere further than your sofa. You know, rhetoric is not at all military. Rather Bosyatskaya.
  41. +1
    8 November 2015 17: 36
    But tell, "God's chosen", in your own words, the Palestinian militants are supported by Qatar and the SA. Why don't you hit them, for example, with your Air Force?
    But because these are the same vassals of Sashka as you, their bases are there, and the owner will scoop up your scruff for arbitrariness and will not throw dollars into Jewish poverty.
    That’s all your independence, signposters. hi
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 18: 42
      Incidentally, Israel wanted to beg money from the United States apparently to continue financing its armed forces, supporting terrorism, continuing the occupation of Palestinian lands and looting, and for some reason the United States refused them.
      Apparently understands that anyway, more are poured in their pockets. lol
      Obama Denies Netanyahu's Request
      The US administration does not intend to increase military assistance to Israel.
      This is stated in the New York Times editorial, citing sources in the White House. Judging by the words of American officials, Jerusalem failed to convince Washington of the justification for increasing military aid - in terms of both the quantity and quality of the supplied weapons.
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/11/08/smi--obama-otvetit-otkazom-na-p
      rosbi-netaniyagu /
      1. -1
        8 November 2015 19: 03
        Quote: quilted jacket
        support for terrorism, the continuation of the occupation of Palestinian lands and plunder and the United States for some reason refused them.



        Well, these are not billions of Syria and other things forgiving to the detriment of ordinary Russians and substituting Russians for terrorist attacks for the sake of their ambitions and the preservation of Assad’s dictatorial-terrorist regime wink
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          8 November 2015 19: 35
          Quote: Wiski
          Well, these are not billions of Syria and other things forgiving to the detriment of ordinary Russians and substituting Russians for terrorist attacks for the sake of their ambitions and the preservation of Assad’s dictatorial-terrorist regime

          So there is a very strong suspicion that the terrorist attacks are financed by Israel, judging by your example, for helping the militants of Al Nusra and the Islamic State in their aggression against Syria.
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            8 November 2015 20: 10
            Quote: quilted jacket
            So there is a very strong suspicion that the terrorist attacks are financed by Israel, judging by your example, for helping the militants of Al Nusra and the Islamic State in their aggression against Syria.


            There is no suspicion and Israel has never financed or assisted ISIS and Al Nusra. Israel only humanitarianly helped the moderate opposition, which protected the Israeli border from the IS attack and for the protection of the Druze in the Golan Heights.
            1. +1
              8 November 2015 20: 15
              Quote: Wiski
              There is no suspicion and Israel has never financed or assisted ISIS and Al Nusra.

              Maybe you don’t have it in Israel, but in Russia and even many people in the world are becoming more and more confident that it is Israel that supports and finances terror.
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                8 November 2015 20: 47
                Yes, no one is getting stronger, except for anti-Semites and those who do not understand what is happening at all.
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                  8 November 2015 21: 04
                  Quote: Wiski
                  Yes, no one is getting stronger, except for anti-Semites and those who do not understand what is happening at all.

                  Well, come in your dreams and live in a world invented by you where Israel is the beacon of democracy and the engine of progress lol
        2. 0
          8 November 2015 19: 58
          the Russians are for, if the Israelis are against it is your problem
    2. +3
      8 November 2015 19: 27
      Quote: mitrich
      But tell, "God's chosen", in your own words, the Palestinian militants are supported by Qatar and the SA. Why don't you hit them, for example, with your Air Force?
      But because these are the same vassals of Sashka as you, their bases are there, and the owner will scoop up your scruff for arbitrariness and will not throw dollars into Jewish poverty.
      That’s all your independence, signposters. hi

      From your words, the ISIS, too, the USA and the Saudis and Qatar support what you do not hit him?
      Let me guess you are the same sassa vassals like us. lol
      Podpi.ndosniki what to take with you
  42. +1
    8 November 2015 18: 33
    Hello. I absolutely naklast that there with the severed sideways doubts. Here your professor washed away like liquid fertilizer in the toilet bowl. After I asked him a question. Somehow he modestly said so. "Grozny taught me" Yu asked him what kind of , position, what kind of campaign. I have in-ch p-p 28804. in ch 21005.
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 18: 51
      a prohessor grabbing a portrait hides behind a blacklist
  43. 0
    8 November 2015 18: 51
    To summarize. Thanks to the Spaniards for the article. The day was not in vain.
  44. 0
    8 November 2015 18: 52
    While I was reading the comments, everything became very obvious - it was not the Jews who shook hands with the terrorists, they were the Russians, the most infamous bloody ghouls. That we all do not give life. And arguing is useless, there is no chance.
    1. +2
      8 November 2015 19: 09
      Self-criticism aims at exposing and eliminating our mistakes, our weaknesses
      Quotes I.V. Stalin.
      smile
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        8 November 2015 19: 59
        the creation of Israel is Stalin's only mistake
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          8 November 2015 20: 22
          Quote: anti-Semite
          the creation of Israel is Stalin's only mistake

          That is, the destruction of several million citizens of the USSR is not an error?
          For fun, how did Stalin create Israel?
          1. 0
            8 November 2015 20: 58
            Quote: Pimply
            That is, the destruction of several million citizens of the USSR is not an error?

            Well, let’s remember, for example, that the bloody People’s Commissar of the NKVD Yagoda was a Jew.
            So now, blame the Jews for the destruction of Soviet citizens?
            1. 0
              8 November 2015 21: 52
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Well, let’s remember, for example, that the bloody People’s Commissar of the NKVD Yagoda was a Jew.
              So now, blame the Jews for the destruction of Soviet citizens?


              Vatnichek, and Nikolai Ivanovich Ezhov - Russian. So Russians are not blamed in this case.
              Why are you trampling to the side? It was about Joseph Vassarionovich and his fans
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                8 November 2015 22: 10
                Quote: Pimply
                Vatnichek

                Pimpled not necessary - a quilted jacket and so on, I already explained to you there are no people with your non-traditional orientation lol
                You are the only one we can say - unique smile
                Quote: Pimply
                Yezhov Nikolai Ivanovich - Russian. So they don’t blame the Russians in this case. Why are you treading the track? It was about Joseph Vassarionovich and his fans

                Here it is not necessary to run into Steel that then we had a dark business and nobody confirmed.
                But the fact that he helped create Israel in this, of course, is his mistake.
          2. +2
            8 November 2015 21: 34
            Bulk Kasyanov and other liberal oppression legally citizens of Russia are actually enemies of the state and the people, the cleaning of the country from such people, I approve and welcome if at least half of those destroyed by Stalin were the same ram as today's white-ribbon ones, then everything is right and for the good of saving people from cancer sometimes it is necessary to cut out malignant cells along with healthy ones, but this is what is called "necessary evil" this gave a colossal impetus to the development of the country, it's a pity only not all enemies of the people were eliminated, perhaps if Lavrenty Pavlovich received power instead of Khrushchev, tragedy 91 would not have happened
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            9 November 2015 05: 04
            Quote: Pimply
            For fun, how did Stalin create Israel?

            http://scepsis.net/library/id_1633.html
            The above link gives an answer to the role of Stalin in the creation of Israel.
        2. 0
          8 November 2015 20: 35
          Stalin is gone laughing
          1. +3
            8 November 2015 21: 35
            Ogha, 100 000 000 Stalin personally killed and ate, he will not lie
            1. 0
              8 November 2015 21: 54
              Quote: anti-Semite
              Ogha, 100 000 000 Stalin personally killed and ate, he will not lie


              No, but personally signed the orders and pursued a policy that caused the direct and indirect death of approximately 3 million Soviet citizens
              1. +1
                9 November 2015 00: 16
                I’m embarrassed to ask, why did the population grow so much? But who worked in factories and factories? it’s not for you to clean the dung in the cowshed; education here is necessary about design bureaus and institutions do not even stutter?
            2. +2
              8 November 2015 22: 37
              Quote: anti-Semite
              Ogha, 100 000 000 Stalin personally killed and ate, he will not lie

              good
  45. 0
    8 November 2015 19: 02
    Another Iranian release at the level of Vatnik, under the Armenian position. This line is interesting:

    "It should be noted that the jihadists control the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq and Syria. According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to cut off the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip."

    Where does Gaza supply water with Nile water, which also passes through Israeli territory, otherwise how to block it?
  46. +1
    8 November 2015 19: 25
    Of course, we must pay attention to the fact that the author has a problem with
    Israel's far right forces live in a world of illusions
    . That is, she is an ultra-left, ardent liberalist. Well, to understand hu is hu.
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    8 November 2015 21: 16
    all terrorists are the product of intelligence services of the west
    1. +1
      8 November 2015 22: 13
      Quote: DHA
      all terrorists are the product of intelligence services of the west

      Well, except for the palaces and a couple more Arab movements! these are purely from the KGB born!
  49. +2
    8 November 2015 21: 40
    "Jews, Jews ...", but what does modern Israel have to do with it? These four guys are MAGAV fighters, border guards. Arab Muslim, Christian, Druze and Jew ("Jew" in Russian). Those who are in the subject will naturally immediately determine who is who ... smile
    1. +2
      8 November 2015 23: 56
      photo is missing or forgot ...
  50. +1
    8 November 2015 23: 06
    Quote: Wiski
    Rosenbaum is charged with the following: it is estimated that he billed three New Jersey residents in the amount of $ 120.000 to $ 150.000 to search for three kidneys for them. He organized the necessary blood tests to ensure alignment and entry into the United States.


    No .. All the same, the Jews are a great people. They even have a simple rabbi, almost everyone knows who needs a kidney. And do not hesitate, he will pick up a kosher kidney for everyone who wants a Jew. In total for 150 green tugriks!
    But I wonder if he will deceive and drive a Jew, a "non-Jewish" kidney? And if earlier this kidney ate beer, vodka and, God forbid, hung out with pork? Well this is how a Jew can live then? Can he demand his money back?