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Israel Supports Al Qaeda ("Publico.es", Spain)

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Israel Supports Al Qaeda ("Publico.es", Spain)



What had previously been issued as a "conspiracy theory," in fact turned out to be true. As part of the conspiracy of the West against the Syrian state, Israel, starting in 2011, provided military and material and technical assistance to al-Qaeda in Syria.

Photographs by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the media with a wounded Syrian rebel in an Israeli military hospital in the Golan Heights prompted such authoritative international publications as The Wall Street Journal, The Times of Israel and The Daily Beast to conduct their own investigation.

Why did such a high-ranking Israeli official, who had repeatedly called on the world community to fight against Islamic terrorists from Hamas and Iran, shake hands with the “Islamic militant” who wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?

It should be noted that the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF) of the Syrian and Israeli forces repeatedly reported Israeli military contacts with fighters from the Front al-Nusra, which is closely linked to Al-Qaida.

As a Druze activist Ahmad al-Maqat told Facebook, who spent 27 years in an Israeli prison and was arrested again in 2014 for anti-Israeli activities, Tel Aviv is implementing a new policy of so-called “peaceful coexistence”. Within the framework of this program, in the Golan Heights, near the Israeli military base, there is a training camp for “alka'idists.

The Israeli authorities deny this and declare that they provide only “humanitarian aid” to people affected by the hostilities. You are amazed at the cynicism of the Israeli regime, which in practice carries out the ruthless genocide of unarmed Palestinians, including children. Israel is the only country bordering Syria that refuses to accept Syrian refugees.

Has Israel forgotten that al-Qaeda has carried out terrorist acts in the United States, Europe and other countries that killed thousands of people?

Or maybe, as stated by former Israeli military intelligence chief Amos Yadlin (Amos Yadlin), within the framework of friendly relations, jihadists provide certain "strategic services" to Israel? Yadlin does not want to admit the possibility of weapons mass destruction by jihadists.

At the same time, Israel is actively engaged in introducing pro-Israel Palestinian agents into the ranks of jihadists, using them as cannon fodder to achieve their interests.

The goal does not always justify the means

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has repeatedly stated that "Israel must wipe out Gaza, as the Americans did with Hiroshima." Sharon is personally responsible for the massacre in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila on the outskirts of Beirut. He preferred to have the rapists and murderers from the Islamic state on the border with Israel, rather than pro-Iranian Hezbollah.

Doesn't this look like what we call “fishing in muddy water”?

Jihadists, none other than the instigators of war, it was with their filing that the flames of war raged in Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen. They are a threat to Russia. Israel seeks to extend its influence from the Euphrates to the Nile.

Possessing a significant military-political potential, does Israel make a mistake when it relies on bin Laden’s students in its strategy?

During the war in Iraq, Donald Rumsfeld created a special group P2OG, whose responsibilities included organizing a series of terrorist acts in order to justify Washington’s activities in the Middle East. It is possible that the P2OG group was involved in the seizure of the Catholic Church of the Blessed Virgin Mary of the Advocate (Saidat al-Nejat) in Baghdad in 2010 year. Al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the attack, and 60 people died as a result of the militant attack.

Israeli targets in Syria

Short term:

- The annexation of the Syrian Golan Heights, rich in water sources and the implementation of control over the water resources of neighboring countries. It should be noted that the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq and Syria are under the control of jihadists. According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to cut off the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

According to another plan developed after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and called Oranim, it is planned to create a so-called “hydraulic safety zone” to control Lebanon’s water resources. It should be noted that NATO also considered similar plans in 2011.

- The destruction of the "axis of resistance: Iran - Syria - Iraq - Hezbollah" ".

Long term:

- Turning the “axis of resistance” into tiny ethnic and religious enclaves that would not be able to withstand Israeli hegemony, which is fully consistent with the “plan B” for American President Obama for Syria.

Israel and the Russian military presence in Syria

Considering that Israel’s strategic goals on the Syrian direction do not include the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad, and the disintegration of the country, it is likely that Tel Aviv will be able to agree with Moscow on the division of spheres of influence, in exchange for maintaining the Tartus naval base after Syria , in the territory controlled by Alawite. Strengthening Russia's military presence in the Middle East will force the US to step up military aid to moderate opposition and lead to the establishment of a no-fly zone from the border with Turkey to the Golan Heights. This will be a preliminary step towards the "balkanization" of the region.

The air operation of the Russian Air Force forces jihadists to retreat in the direction of Iraq and Turkey. This leads to instability in these countries, which is in Israel’s favor.

Russia, leading the "pro-Assadavian coalition" and using military tactics developed in Tehran, significantly strengthened the position of the Syrian president.

Tel Aviv understands that the Iranian and Lebanese forces in these conditions will not take hostile actions against Israel until the conflict in Syria ends.

Moscow for many years supported the US sanctions against Iran, which has one of the largest gas reserves in the world. It is quite obvious that Moscow will try to prevent the construction of gas pipelines Iran-Iraq-Syria, as well as Qatar-Saudi Arabia-Iraq-Syria.

Strangely enough, but it turns out that Netanyahu has a much better relationship with “friend Putin” than with Barack Obama. The fact is that the lifting of US sanctions increases Iran’s international weight to the detriment of Israel and Saudi Arabia.

For the first time since the collapse of the USSR, we are witnessing a rapprochement between Russia and Iraq. This is beneficial for Israel and Saudi Arabia, as in this case it is to the detriment of Iran, as well as the United States. The Syrian events completely unleashed the hands of the Israelis, who stepped up the fight against the Palestinians, and the issue of creating two states receded into the background.

Syria's future

Before the start of Russian military intervention in Syria for Tel Aviv, the best scenario for the development of events was to “freeze” the conflict for many years, and thus switch the attention of Arab countries from Israel to Damascus.

This is exactly what happened during the war between Iraq and Iran (1980-1988) when the “Double Deterrence” plan, developed by Henry Kissinger, was implemented. The main goal of the plan was to prevent war in the economic, political, social and military development of Iran and Iraq, which eventually turned out to be. Now we are seeing Iraq returning to the Stone Age, and Iran is gradually being drawn into the Syrian war.

The words of the former chairman of the US defense policy committee Richard Perle, who said back in 1996, said “Israel in close cooperation with Turkey and Jordan should weaken Syria and also remove Saddam Hussein from Iraq”, were prophetic.

Now we are witnessing how slowly but surely the disintegration of Syria and Iraq is going on, not only as states, but also as nations.

Israel benefits from any, even the most negative development of the situation, such as the complete disintegration of the country and the disintegration of society. Israel is always a winner, whether it is the transformation of Syria into a confessional state, implying the organization of state power in accordance with the division of society into religious communities, like Lebanon, or the establishment of the Islamic state in Syria. This is always better than having a strong neighbor next to you.

Syrians have become the second nation in the world in terms of the number of refugees, after all the forgotten Palestinian refugees. It happened by chance or not, but Palestine and Syria border Israel.

A small Jewish state can become a superpower if there are three elements: territory, oil, and water. All these elements are in neighboring countries.

It may be considered that this is an “ideological plot”, but it turns out that Israel can achieve its hegemonic goals only if it leaves only scorched earth on its way.

Now Israel, along with Saudi Arabia and Turkey, is driving the last nail into the coffin of the Obama doctrine, based on the containment of China. The world's greatest powers, including Iran, clung to the fray in order to show their strength in the Middle East. Meanwhile, China is quietly watching the great powers plunge into the “Syrian swamp”.

The ultra-right forces in Israel live in a world of illusions, trying to wipe out their enemies from the face of the earth, but at the same time they ignore the dialectic, forgetting the theory of communicating vessels in such a troubled region.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 8 November 2015 06: 17 New
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    Yes, Jews have long supported the Syrian militants. Well, Iran will surely erase this ulcer in the coming decades.
    1. Alexkorzun
      Alexkorzun 8 November 2015 08: 07 New
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      Apparently, the Jews on the forum will have to ignore this article - there is nothing to say ...
      А испанцы - молодцы, не первый раз снимают маски с фашисткой физиономии "богоизбранных"- испанские суды, как известно, послали the Jews евреев с ответственностью за "отрицание Lochocosta холокоста" к yo ...., sorry, to their Jewish mother ...
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 08: 41 New
        +6
        Spanish courts are known to have sent

        The Spaniards, I remember, in the past were not too tolerant. As you, however lol

        Turning the “axis of resistance” into tiny ethnic and religious enclaves

        Вокруг этого строится вся политика Израиля. И не только по отношению к оси (пророссийской по сути), но и ко всем арабским странам. Соответственно по этому заказу работает пропаганда Израиля: "арабы - дикари, не способные жить в многонациональном и многоконфессиональном государстве", "арабы никогда не выйдут за границы родоплеменных общин", "для арабов единственная власть - АК".
      2. nils
        nils 8 November 2015 08: 57 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexkorzun
        Apparently, the Jews ... have nothing to say


        You apparently have not heard Zhirinovsky and Solovyov for a long time. You will not stop pouring in!
        Dahl opened proverbs and sayings on the subject. And there! Honest mother - some words forbidden on the site. I had to rephrase:
        "Behind their tongue does not keep up and barefoot.
        Believe your eyes, not their speeches.
        The whole truth is that from them неправда."
        1. Alexkorzun
          Alexkorzun 8 November 2015 09: 40 New
          +2
          Colleague, if you use my phrase, then submit it without distorting:
          Apparently, the Jews on the forum will have to ignore this article - there is nothing to say ...

          The meaning is changing and you went the other way, Zhirik dragged.
          1. Eugene-Eugene
            Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 10: 04 New
            -2
            The meaning changes and you go the other way.

            And you have the whole point in one direction
      3. Boz_canavar
        Boz_canavar 8 November 2015 11: 15 New
        +2
        note - The author of the article, Nazanín Armanian, is an Armenian, a refugee of Iranian descent living in Barcelona, ​​who has a blog in a Spanish newspaper .. the Spaniards have nothing to do with it.
        1. Taagad
          Taagad 8 November 2015 11: 42 New
          -11
          And Armenia is Iran’s closest ally ...
          1. Hello
            Hello 8 November 2015 12: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: Taagad
            And Armenia is Iran’s closest ally ...

            belay And not Russia?
            1. Boz_canavar
              Boz_canavar 8 November 2015 12: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Hello
              And not Russia?

              outpost of Russia. hi
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 8 November 2015 18: 17 New
                +7
                And here the Armenian is not Armenian. Her statement explains a lot in the incomprehensible policy of the State of Israel. On the IG, etc. attention is zero, and Syria was bombed? And how did Bibi worry in Moscow that the weapons of the Russian Federation would fall into Hezbollah’s hands? Etc. hi
                1. Talgat
                  Talgat 8 November 2015 18: 32 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Kasym
                  And here the Armenian is not Armenian. Her statement explains a lot in the incomprehensible policy of the State of Israel.



                  I will fully support Kasym! What does it really have to do with it

                  And Iran’s main allies now are Russia (as a military-political ally), and no matter how surprised, our republic of Kazakhstan (as an economic ally), by the way, has built a new Iran-Kazakhstan railway and plans to increase trade by 5 times with a friendly neighbor, which put an end to the attempts of external enemies to block Iran. The leadership of Iran and Kazakhstan found a common language, our presidents personally opened the very railway, that is, our southern neighbor becomes a strategic partner for us - such as China for Russia

                  Read the speeches of all Iranian leaders - Sajjidi, Rouhani, etc. - they unambiguously call the West enemies, and Russia and Kazakhstan are called friends and allies

                  But Armenia simply depends on Iran - it has a communication channel through Iran - there are no borders with the CSTO and EAC countries. But of course there isn’t as much benefit to Iran from it as from the KZ and the Russian Federation
          2. Boz_canavar
            Boz_canavar 8 November 2015 12: 26 New
            +5
            Well, judging by the article - the customer’s ears stick out from Iran at 100%. hi
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          4. Boz_canavar
            Boz_canavar 8 November 2015 14: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: Taagad
            And Armenia is Iran’s closest ally ...

            + That's right, the presidents of Iran kiss in a hickey with the presidents of Armenia. Without Iran, Armenia would have suffocated a long time ago. Moreover, I won’t be surprised if it becomes known that the Armenian diaspora in the USA is actively cooperating with Iranhi
      4. marinier
        marinier 8 November 2015 12: 07 New
        +3
        Dobroi vremia sutok g-in!
        Posmet vsiat na sebia smelost korektirovat k kakoi mater
        ke, BENINAMATER!
        G-da starij kak WORLD profesia peisati-ortodoks nu (vi ponimat kakoi drevneshi profesion lol ), deistvovat is pod-tishka, taskat kastan is brand, i pods4itivat pri eto barish.Ni4ego novij!
        Sviaz peisati-ortodoks ne nova, strano o4en strano 4to tak nazivaemij DERMO-KRATOR dermokrizator nabral v rot dermo, i mol4ok.

        PS neverno polu4at udovolsti ot togo 4to nabrat v rot!
        1. Hello
          Hello 8 November 2015 12: 13 New
          -4
          Quote: marinier
          Dobroi vremia sutok g-in!
          Posmet vsiat na sebia smelost korektirovat k kakoi mater
          ke, BENINAMATER!
          G-da starij kak WORLD profesia peisati-ortodoks nu (vi ponimat kakoi drevneshi profesion lol ), deistvovat is pod-tishka, taskat kastan is brand, i pods4itivat pri eto barish.Ni4ego novij!
          Sviaz peisati-ortodoks ne nova, strano o4en strano 4to tak nazivaemij DERMO-KRATOR dermokrizator nabral v rot dermo, i mol4ok.

          PS neverno polu4at udovolsti ot togo 4to nabrat v rot!

          Old as world is strong laughing
          Carry chestnut from brand wassat
          And I like you still write your wisdom.
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 8 November 2015 16: 37 New
          +1
          I highly recommend using a virtual keyboard.
          http://russian.keyboard.su или http://translit.net/keyboard/ И никто смеяться не станет, если нет проблем с языком!
      5. g1v2
        g1v2 8 November 2015 13: 05 New
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        Well, why should they ignore her. Their tactics are correct - all of you are lying and Iran is to blame for everything. laughing Well, in fact, what was new in the article? Is Israel sabotaging Syria, treating and sponsoring militants? Well, so it was clear to everyone - they’ve been fighting for decades. How many times have Israelis struck at Syrian forces. What is Israel collaborating with al-Qaeda Islamists? Well, so Israel made friends with the Saudis against Iran, and al-Qaeda and its Syrian part of Nusra are controlled by the Saudis. Therefore, it is not clear what is surprising in the fact that al-Qaeda militants are being treated in Israel. Kedmi also talked about this, but no one has yet been able to accuse him of lying. In this case, we offer Israel a way out - to cooperate with us, and then our base will be in Syria, not Iranian. The move for Israel. They will cooperate - the border with Syria will become a very peaceful place and we will be able to carry out mutually beneficial projects. They will continue to carry out subversive activities against our ally, al-Assad - and the hezbollah will receive as much weapons as not every Middle Eastern country has.
        1. tilix
          tilix 8 November 2015 13: 08 New
          +2
          In this case, we offer Israel
          It is very interesting that you are putting forward your proposals on behalf of whom? That is, your aspirations or an official vision of the situation?
      6. twviewer
        twviewer 8 November 2015 17: 03 New
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        article belated stuffing 25.10.15/XNUMX/XNUMX
        Израильское правительство утвердило включение группировок "Исламское государство", "Фронт Ан-Нусра" ("Джебхат ан-Нусра") и "Бригады Абдаллы Азама" в список террористических организаций. Как отмечается в официальном заявлении правительства Израиля, это решение было принято по рекомендации Службы общей безопасности (ШАБАК) в связи с усилившимися в последние годы атаками на Израиль со стороны джихадистских группировок, действующих как за границей, так и внутри страны.
        До настоящего времени в Израиле перечисленные организации не считались террористическими, хотя их деятельность была запрещена на территории страны указом министра обороны от 4 сентября 2014 года. Такое положение не позволяло привлечь к уголовной ответственности израильтян, выступающих в поддержку этих организаций, а также воюющих на их стороне за пределами Израиля, передает израильский "9 канал".


        maybe not everyone likes it? :) as far as I know according to the laws of Israel of. individuals cannot engage with terrorists, so draw conclusions
      7. the most important
        the most important 9 November 2015 23: 36 New
        0

        Tel Aviv will allow Moscow to keep the base in Tartus ..... - the most stupid expression in recent times!
    2. Taagad
      Taagad 8 November 2015 08: 44 New
      -10
      Professor Alexander Lerner, head of the orthopedics department of the Safed hospital, with 2 especially classified Alkaida terrorists (even their faces are classified), Wounded by government forces during the bombing. Terrorists are so valuable that prostheses worth tens of thousands of dollars each were purchased for them.



      Israeli military
      I protest like a mother
      And as a woman
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 8 November 2015 08: 52 New
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        Safed Professor Alexander Lerner with 2 especially classified Alkaida terrorists (even their faces are classified), Wounded by government forces during the bombing

        Все это- бла-бла-бла для прессы и "мирового сообщества" Двух спасли- двести на тот свет отправили.
        1. Rrrj
          Rrrj 8 November 2015 11: 27 New
          +7
          Quote: DenZ
          They saved two, sent two hundred to the next world.

          + + + + +
          1. sovetskyturist
            sovetskyturist 8 November 2015 23: 19 New
            0
            “When an adult man has sexual intercourse with a little girl, it’s nothing, because when a girl is less than three years old, it’s as if someone sticks a finger in the eye, tears come to the eyes ... but the vision returns, and the innocence returns to the little one a girl who is less than three years old ”(Kethuboth 11b; Talmud, 617); “Sexual intercourse with a girl is permitted if the girl is 3 years old” (Niddah 44b) (see Russian version); “Goy girls from the age of 3 can be abused” (Aboda Sarah 37a).

            Moreover, the Talmud simultaneously provided for an “emergency exit” for the conscience of the Jews themselves ... through the murder of a seduced child: “... if a Jew had intercourse with a non-Jew, be she three years old and one day old or adult, married or not, and even if he is a minor only 9 years old and one day - since he had voluntary intercourse with her, she should be killed, as in the case of an animal (who participated in the act of bestiality), because through her the Jew was in a difficult position ”(Rambam, Mishne Torah, Halakhot Isur Bia, Perek Yud-Bet, 1495, ETT; Maimonides, op cit, «Prohibitions on Sexual Intercourse» 12;.. 10; Talmudic Encyclopedia, «Goy») [5].
            The first explanation is quite rational. Israel does not want to give Syria the Golan heights captured from it. It is possible not to mind and grab something else. And to make it much more convenient when chaos is around. The apartheid robber regime does not want to deal with equal neighbors, the rules of communication with which are regulated by international law. Fragmentation of neighboring states and bloody chaos on their territory provides convenient opportunities for continuing the robbery. The abreks themselves on carts do not pose such a great danger to the Zionist education, since it has a not too long, well-fortified border and technologically advanced armed forces. At the same time, Israel has strict border controls and a tough internal police regime; the possibility of large groups of terrorists seeping into its territory is vanishingly small.

            К тому же, значительное число террористических групп состоят на израильском и американском довольствии и вряд ли станут "кусать кормящую руку".

            Объяснение второе, религиозно-мистическое. В Восточном Иерусалиме расположена мечеть Омара, одна из величайших исламских святынь. Построена она на месте разрушенного Второго Иудейского Храма. Иудеи ждут мошиаха, - того, кого христианская эсхатология именует антихристом. А короновать "царя иудейского", - этого лжемессию и губителя людей, - они обязательно должны в восстановленном Третьем Храме. Причём вновь построен он должен быть на том самом месте, где и стоял.
            1. sovetskyturist
              sovetskyturist 8 November 2015 23: 20 New
              +3
              .............. The problem is that the Jews do not dare to destroy the Omar mosque on their own. This will be an unheard-of insult to Islam. After that, every Muslim in the world will be required to wage a holy war against them. Even hypocrites such as Arabian sheikhs will no longer be able to maintain relations with the Zionist entity.

              А теперь посмотрим на ИГИЛ. Халифат показательно (даже подозрительно демонстративно) разрушает всё, что оказывается у него на пути. Все памятники, все святыни, в том числе и исламские, которые объявляются "неправильными", не имеющими отношения к "чистому исламу". Вполне реальный вариант - организовать либо прорыв ИГИЛ в Восточный Иерусалим, либо просто мощный теракт от имени ИГИЛ. В итоге как бы "мусульмане" как бы "сами" разрушат мечеть, а иудеям "ничего не останется делать", как построить на её месте Третий Храм.

              Эту версию не стоит считать такой уж конспирологической. Восстановление Третьего Храма - это сверхзадача иудеев, ради осуществления которой они могут пожертвовать даже серьёзной финансовой выгодой - по их вере, "мошиах" всё равно даст им власть над миром, так что все расходы отобьются и гешефт на выходе получится колоссальный.

              Ну и, наконец, третья версия. Действия данного образования не имеют рациональной природы. Приносить вред соседям для него так же естественно, как дышать. Вспомним, что где бы ни оказывался иудейский народ после разгрома римлянинами в Иудейской войне и разрушения Второго Храма, везде он жаловался на "антисемитизм". То есть, имел проблемы с соседями. Если какой-то человек постоянно жалуется, что его везде "преследуют" и "притесняют", это означает только одно - он, вольно или невольно, сам ведёт себя так, что вызывает неприязнь окружающих. Те же персы когда-то здорово выручили иудеев, дав им приют. Блапгодарность Израиля мы все видим. То же и с другими народами, и с вечным нытьём про "антисемитизм" - наверное, что-то в их поведении этот самый антисемитизм провоцирует. Может быть, они этого и сами не хотят - но так постоянно получается. Как-то само собой.

              Это и не удивительно, поскольку иудаизм провозглашает "настоящими людьми" лишь евреев. Гои, - не евреи, - считаются всего лишь животными, которым Иегова дал человеческий облик для того, чтобы иудеям было не так противно пользоваться их услугами.
        2. NIKNN
          NIKNN 8 November 2015 17: 03 New
          +2
          DenZ Today, 08:52
          Все это- бла-бла-бла для прессы и "мирового сообщества" Двух спасли- двести на тот свет отправили.

          ++++.....+++ Для сокрытия воинственной политики для захвата чужих территорий(что вам не жилось на той которую вам подарили), вы бы для этого фото специально ранеными разжились.кстати че то у них радости и благодарности в глазах не отсвечивается. Фото в статье куда о большем говорит. Принцип нагадить, а потом по достижении своих целей благородными выглядеть "простите мы это нечаянно", мерзко все, что вы делаете. belay
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 8 November 2015 21: 25 New
            +3
            And minus one. Hurt, well, well. Hai live Ridna Palestine, to evil enemies. laughing
            1. sovetskyturist
              sovetskyturist 8 November 2015 23: 29 New
              -1
              Palestinians are genetic Jews, that is, heirs whose seed was bequeathed [the promised land], and the majority of those professing Judaism are descendants of the Khazars [Turks, Caucasians and Russians. Look at the topic of cutting off dry branches, the Nazis in the camps rotted the so-called Akshenazi Jews. Everyone who went to the desert on collective farms did not go to fulfill the prophecy.
      2. Eugene-Eugene
        Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 09: 02 New
        +2
        Well, you damn, heroes
      3. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 8 November 2015 09: 26 New
        +6
        Or maybe these are children from the Gaza Strip after shelling by the Israeli military? They themselves crippled and helped themselves, and now with this pathos this photo is being duplicated.
        1. Taagad
          Taagad 8 November 2015 11: 41 New
          -3
          Then they would not have been taken to the Safed hospital. Safed Hospital is the closest hospital to the Syrian border.
      4. opus
        opus 8 November 2015 12: 22 New
        12
        Quote: Taagad
        The terrorists are so valuable that they acquired prostheses worth tens of thousands of dollars each.

        Touched. Now letting a tear come ...
        ===============================
        I don’t know whether to believe the Swedish daily Aftonbladet (article by Donald Bostrem)


        "Våra söner plundras på sina organ" ("Our sons are being plundered for their organs"
        IDF soldiers kill Palestinians for donor organs

        Aftonbladet tabloid, what to take from it (for 2006: 1 daily readers (Orvesto 425 study: 000), which roughly equals 15% of the population of Sweden.)
        They probably lie ...


        19-year-old Bilal Achmed Ghanan was shot and taken away by Israeli soldiers. His body was returned to his family brutally stitched up from the abdomen to the chin. Source: Israeli Organ Harvesting The New “Blood Libel”? by Alison Weir, 2009.



        The truth was / is:
        L. Greenberg из National Institute of Forensic Medicine Yehuda Hiss и его"УДО" с интерьвю

        a certain Levi Yitzhak Rosenbaum (rabbi), who was going to buy (or buy) kidneys from the poor for 10 thousand dollars and then sell them for 160 thousand.

        According to Rosenbaum, he has been involved in this business for many years.
        Well, there are still some 5 rabbis. / Well, the recent syndicate case in New Jersey, the FBI, arrests ...

        every little thing:



        1. Wiski
          Wiski 8 November 2015 15: 20 New
          -6
          The liberal Swedish newspaper Sidsvenskan, the main newspaper in the south of the country, sharply criticized Aftonblad and overwhelmed it with Antisemitbladet.

          “We have already heard this story, in one form or another. It completely coincides with the traditional form of conspiracy theory: a large number of threads that the theoretician tries to tie into a single knot, without preoccupying with bringing any proven justifications, ”writes newspaper columnist Mats Skogkar.

          "Whispers in the Dark. Anonymous sources. Gossip. Everything will fit. In the end, we all know that they (the Jews), unlike us, are inhuman and cruel. They are capable of anything, writes the columnist. “Now it only remains to go into a completely predictable defense:“ Anti-Semitism? No, no, just a criticism of Israel. ”






          a certain Levi Yitzhak Rosenbaum (rabbi), who was going to buy (or buy) kidneys from the poor for 10 thousand dollars and then sell them for 160 thousand.




          Rosenbaum is charged with the following: it is assumed that he billed three New Jersey residents between $ 120.000 and $ 150.000 to search for three kidneys. He organized the necessary blood tests to ensure alignment and entry into the United States. According to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, the detention was due to an FBI secret agent who said that he had a sick uncle and therefore needed a kidney.

          For Rosenbaum, it was not about saving a life. He was only focused on capitalizing on the money that instantly settled in his pocket, Fishman said in an interview with an Israeli newspaper. Therefore, the prison sentence for a 61-year-old Israeli is proportionate, given his crime and guilt.

          However, other estimates can be found. Rachel Washauer, who came from Brooklyn to defend the accused, conveyed a completely different impression of Levi Yitzhak Rosenbaum. “There are no casualties,” she told the Associated Press (AP). “Donors are happy and recipients are happy.” Others who came to support Rosenbaum also call him “a devoted Orthodox Jew,” who devoted his life to saving other people.
          1. Sid.74
            8 November 2015 16: 36 New
            +5
            Quote: Wiski
            Donors are happy and recipients are happy. ”

            I sob, already let a tear of tenderness ...crying
            Скажите,а Вы себе такого же "счастья",как у этих доноров,пожелали бы?
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 8 November 2015 20: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Sid.74
              Скажите,а Вы себе такого же "счастья",как у этих доноров,пожелали бы?


              They weren’t taken by force, right?
              There are people who donate organs at will and generally for free, so what? Their right.

              I do not support organ trafficking, but given that a person does not die without a kidney, that many donate for free, then the question is more about gaining money on people, and not the question itself, whether this should be done and probably both parties may be quite happy as some die without waiting.
      5. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 20 New
        +4
        but there is evidence that the children suffered precisely from the government army?
    3. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 08: 49 New
      -33
      Steam dust swallow.
      1. captain
        captain 8 November 2015 10: 41 New
        -10
        Israelis, unlike many people, know history and try to draw conclusions from past conflicts, predict future conflicts and try to carry out preventive measures.
        1. Appraiser
          Appraiser 8 November 2015 13: 21 New
          +8
          Israelis, unlike many parasites in conflicts .... hi
        2. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 22 New
          +8
          they do not predict them and provoke
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 16: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: anti-Semite
            they do not predict them and provoke

            Prediction does not preclude provocation. We must pay tribute - MOSAD does its work in a high-quality, albeit not very ethical manner. Efficiency is beyond morality. hi
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 November 2015 16: 31 New
              +3
              there is no ethics in politics, it infuriates that Jews make victims of themselves even invading foreign countries
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 17: 58 New
                +3
                Quote: anti-Semite
                there is no ethics in politics

                I agree. There are principles and national interests in politics. A statesman may neglect principles for the sake of national interests, but not national interests for the sake of principles.
                Quote: anti-Semite
                Jews make victims
                Centuries-old traditions are such, and religion. laughing
      2. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 8 November 2015 12: 14 New
        +1
        Oh, where did you get the Kyrgyz malach from? :)
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 13: 30 New
          0
          The brother came to visit, brought. Only this is not malachi.
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      4. mitrich
        mitrich 8 November 2015 17: 26 New
        +1
        Steam dust swallow.

        Is that you, Russia ??? fool
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 21: 06 New
          +2
          This is me to all ill-wishers.
    4. Slobber
      Slobber 8 November 2015 09: 40 New
      +8
      erase this ulcer

      It seems to me that you are a provocateur, a Nazi, a racist, a fascist and just a whore who writes ignorantly and spitefully.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 8 November 2015 17: 47 New
        -2
        Quote: razgildyay
        Seems to me

        But I don’t give up, I’m sure that the Nazis, racists and anti-Semites gather in the Jewish state. And only in Jewish. Therefore, the best minus from me. tongue
    5. Appraiser
      Appraiser 8 November 2015 13: 19 New
      0
      There is nothing surprising here, Israel is a policy of double standards, a friend as long as he is the enemy of my enemy .... smile
  2. parafoiler
    parafoiler 8 November 2015 06: 28 New
    17
    Израиль бензином "помогает" тушить ближневосточный пожар... Ну-ну.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 November 2015 06: 32 New
    27
    Israel, since 2011, has provided military and logistical assistance to al-Qaeda in Syria.

    This information is not at all surprising, because fits very smoothly into Israeli politics in this region. Yes, and on our website, commentators from this country constantly mix Assad with mud and criticize (to put it mildly) the actions of our VKS in Syria. Imagine their reaction to this article - a lie, not a knowledge of the situation, etc.
    “Israel must wipe Gaza from the face of the earth, as the Americans did with Hiroshima”

    А это чем не фашистское заявление. "Избранные" с "исключительными" диктуют правила существования государств в мире, при этом забывают простую русскую поговорку: "Палка о двух концах".
    1. Babr
      Babr 8 November 2015 07: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      "Избранные" с "исключительными" диктуют правила существования государств в мире, при этом забывают простую русскую поговорку: "Палка о двух концах".

      To me, in general, it is up to the bulb of Israel, although there are also human people.
      I'm more interested in the future of Russia.
      And this pumping of the negative matrix around Israel has a foundation.
      А разгадка наверно здесь.Здесь "будущее" России.
      1. shans2
        shans2 8 November 2015 12: 15 New
        0
        Israel is destabilizing the Middle East with the Saudis and others like them, thinking that they will rule them in the end, harming Russia, Israel will be extorted, ... and punished ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 November 2015 08: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      “Israel must wipe out Gaza,

      Zhirik offered to drop a nuclear bomb on Chechnya, how is it?
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 8 November 2015 08: 51 New
        +4
        In my opinion, it is not entirely adequate.
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 11: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: miru mir
          In my opinion, it is not entirely adequate.


          But abruptly McCain will be. laughing
      2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 09: 30 New
        +6
        Кроме того - "обнести Кавказ колючей проволокой", "ограничить рождаемость на Кавказе"!
        "Богоизбранная кровь" всегда находит родное тело, хотя и любит повторять, что он РУССКИЙ(?)! И про заводик дедушки на Западе Окраины ИНОГДА вспоминает! А уж как рыдал на могиле дедушки на кладбище в Израиле, нужно было посмотреть!
        And indeed, the presence of a party of marginals, headed by their leader (and gilt) - MUCHING and INSURANCE of the RUSSIAN NATION!
        1. Babr
          Babr 8 November 2015 11: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov

          Vladimir, don’t be offended. You hear a ring, but you don’t know where he is.
          Indeed, only what the authorities want to see is leaked to the press.
          And this is an intelligent person, historian, orientalist. But the authorities are not ubiquitous. Sometimes information leaks out (which I could consider, but you are not), which is worth considering.
          1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
            Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 12: 17 New
            +3
            Речь шла в дополнение к заявлению в своё время Жириновского "бросить на Чечню атомную бомбу"!
        2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 12: 17 New
          0
          Речь шла в дополнение к заявлению в своё время Жириновского "бросить на Чечню атомную бомбу"!
          1. Babr
            Babr 8 November 2015 15: 26 New
            +3
            Well, sometimes you don’t blurt out for a glass of tea? lol
            And imagine the level of the magazine that blew this message?
            And then, more. Are we already so stupid that we seriously take it?
            Or maybe it’s done on purpose. That's how they make a jester out of a person.
            And serious statements are perceived as another whim
  4. Name
    Name 8 November 2015 06: 41 New
    21
    The children of Moses hating (all) Russia and Russians and RUSSIAN (and try to refute):
    1. Slobber
      Slobber 8 November 2015 09: 43 New
      -8
      Yeah, so rebellious that the yoke of the Horde was not, it's a fairy tale; and under the kings, in serfdom in general there was a paradise, the evil communists destroyed everything. And then when everything began to improve under the Communists, the Russians took and destroyed the USSR, as a monastery of unfreedom and oppression.
      1. saber
        saber 8 November 2015 10: 36 New
        14
        there was, there was a yoke ... from Mongolia the Mongols rode along the high-speed horse-drawn highway ... Serfdom was much milder than the feudal system of Europe. and the nationality of those evil communists was by the way appropriate ..
        1. Slobber
          Slobber 8 November 2015 10: 42 New
          -9
          and the nationality of those evil communists was by the way appropriate ..

          Understood, Jews. It’s good that the Mongols are not with the pace.
          Serfdom is much milder than the feudal system of Europe.

          What is softer? Did all the peasants sleep on soft feather beds?
          1. saber
            saber 8 November 2015 10: 56 New
            +2
            I'm not very-Mongols in the Mongols. Bronstein often meet?
            Quote: razgildyay
            What is softer? Did all the peasants sleep on soft feather beds?

            Тем,что все крестьяне принадлежали царю. Отюуда и "царь-батюшка". Помещик не имел права судить и лишать жизни своего крестьянина(максимум за мелкую провинность выпороть. Салтычиху таки осудили и впаяли пожизненно за самоуправство). А до некоторых времен крестьяне вообще имели право менять помещиков.
            1. Slobber
              Slobber 8 November 2015 11: 15 New
              -5
              Oh, well, in the idyll, the feudal system in Europe is also a model of justice and honesty, as well as of the Christian order. Well, in general you have a maniamok in all fields.
              1. saber
                saber 8 November 2015 11: 19 New
                +8
                What exactly is an example of honesty — the right of a first night for English princes in Ireland? fencing? children's work houses? Were there any analogues to this in Russia?
                1. Slobber
                  Slobber 8 November 2015 11: 43 New
                  -7
                  first night right for the English princes in ireland

                  There was no right, and the night was not just once, Strashinsky and Gorsky as an example to you, as the most famous cases, well, or even Hannibal, who is Arap Petra.
                  fencing?

                  Fencing someone what?
                  children's work houses?

                  Ololo, the luminosity of Russia himself, the Greatest Peter, the Great gave the decree, so that the street children were sent to manufactories and in the company. Is it worth remembering the life of peasant children, they did not work while their fathers served for 18 years, yes.
                  Manyamirok continues to exist.
                  1. saber
                    saber 8 November 2015 11: 54 New
                    +7
                    a reference to those decrees is possible? Yes, and the peasant community, if it gave the soldiers into the family, provided for its children, and as a rule the unmarried served
                    1. Slobber
                      Slobber 8 November 2015 12: 20 New
                      -2
                      a link

                      Krivonosov A.N. The historical experience of combating homelessness. Convenient book - all together.
                      Yes, and the peasant community, if it gave the soldiers into the family, provided for its children, and as a rule the unmarried served

                      My turn is to ask for a reference, how was help regulated?
                      1. saber
                        saber 8 November 2015 13: 40 New
                        +1
                        I’ll definitely download and read at my leisure what exactly it says about the exile of street children in Peter's times. It is unlikely that I will find a reference to the rules of assistance to families of conscripts, because this follows, in principle, from the logic of the world outlook of the peasant community. Reread contemporaries in order to convince you I see no reason, excuse me hi
                  2. saber
                    saber 8 November 2015 13: 46 New
                    +4
                    Quote: razgildyay
                    There was no right, and night was more than once,

                    everything was in the past. however, in some countries this was condemned by society, while in others it was enshrined in law. Feel the difference?
                  3. anti-Semite
                    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 28 New
                    0
                    can you name the country in which then it was different?
                2. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 11: 48 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Saber
                  What exactly is an example of honesty — the right of a first night for English princes in Ireland? fencing? children's work houses? Were there any analogues to this in Russia?

                  Максим, Ваш спор с Алексеем достаточно интересно смотреть, вот только пару нюансов не соответствуют реалиям. Понятие "английский князь в Ирландии" вызывает легкую улыбку, по причине отсутствия понятия "князь" в англосанксонской иерархии, да и "огораживание" всё-таки буржуазный термин, к феодализму имеющий опосредственное отношение.

                  Something like this, colleague, it will be more accurate. hi
                  1. saber
                    saber 8 November 2015 11: 52 New
                    +3
                    I agree, dear! I write by raids, I work ..
                    1. Vladimir 1964
                      Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 11: 55 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Saber
                      I agree, dear! I write by raids, I work ..

                      And I, Oleg, are a pensioner. So now I’ll treat you with understanding. yes
                      1. saber
                        saber 8 November 2015 13: 48 New
                        +1
                        Oleg, why Vladimir1964?
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 16: 24 New
                        0
                        Quote: Saber
                        why Vladimir 1964?

                        BS MVD or MO most likely.
                      3. Vladimir 1964
                        Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 16: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72

                        BS MVD or MO most likely.


                        And this, colleague Igor, what are you talking about, if not secret?
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 18: 01 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Vladimir 1964
                        What are you talking about if not a secret?

                        Former employee (although there are no former laughing ) If you take 1964 as the year of birth, then you can be a pensioner at 51 years old while serving in the army or in the organs. hi
                      5. Vladimir 1964
                        Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 18: 40 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Former employee (although there are no former employees). If you take 1964 as the year of birth, then you can be a pensioner at 51 years old while serving in the army or in the organs.

                        That's right, colleague. I just could not decipher the abbreviation BS. hi
                3. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 16: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Saber
                  Oleg, why Vladimir1964?


                  It’s me, Maxim, who I called Oleg in the park. I’m sorry, colleague. hi
                  PS And my name and nickname are the same.
  5. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 26 New
    +4
    In what year did the states abolish slavery? allowed marriages between different races? removed black spots on the buses?
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 9 November 2015 00: 45 New
    +1
    Only the Mongols did not know about it
  • shans2
    shans2 8 November 2015 12: 19 New
    +1
    Serfdom arose under Peter the Great, a great lover of Europe and a window-cutter - made slaves, as was customary in Europe at that time ... Holland was one of the states actively involved in the transportation of slaves (to North America, on the plantation).
    1. andj61
      andj61 8 November 2015 20: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: shans2
      Serfdom arose under Peter the Great, a great lover of Europe and a window-cutter - made slaves, as was customary in Europe at that time ...

      You read - and you learn a bunch of new things! what
      And I thought that the emergence of serfdom to Peter 1 has nothing to do ... request
      In Kievan Rus and the Novgorod Republic, unfree peasants were divided into categories: stinks, purchases, and slaves. In tsarist Russia, serfdom spread widely by the sixteenth century; officially confirmed by the Council Code of 1649; canceled in 1861.

      And for the first time, serfdom began to be legally formalized by the Judiciary of 1497 under Ivan 3, the grandfather of Ivan the Terrible.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 16: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: razgildyay
    the evil communists destroyed everything.

    Russian communists? wink
    And the name of the Russian destroyers of the USSR to list? Everywhere Jews were drawn, you will erase figs.
    1. sovetskyturist
      sovetskyturist 8 November 2015 23: 43 New
      +4
      Gusskie bhatja
      Russian communists? wink
      The national composition of the personnel of the Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB of the USSR in 1917 - 1938 http://mrk-kprf-spb.narod.ru/bespal.htm “Together with Trotsky”: the origins of the “purges of 1937” in the Red Army http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/istoriya_rossii/vmeste_s_trockim_istoki_chist
      ok_1937_goda_v_krasnoy_armii /
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 9 November 2015 07: 20 New
    +2
    Name
    The children of Moses hating (all) Russia and Russians and RUSSIAN (and try to refute):



    Printing this dirt and under your own name, at least bother to indicate your source.
    Although it’s probably muddy to trace the beginning, it is everywhere.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 8 November 2015 06: 51 New
    -44
    I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense. Let the anti-Semites be amuse themselves without us.
    1. apro
      apro 8 November 2015 07: 02 New
      17
      Why nonsense? After all, Israel supported Afghan dushmans, helped establish Hamas, helped topple the secular regime of Iran, and collaborated with Iran’s ayatollahs, and you can write an encyclopedia about relations with Nazi Germany.
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 8 November 2015 08: 54 New
        -3
        Israel collaborated with Iran, but just with the secular. In the days of Nazi Germany, Israel did not exist. So your encyclopedia will be similar to this article.
        1. apro
          apro 8 November 2015 09: 06 New
          +7
          Egor, remember the Iran Contra scandal. Israel played an important role in Iran’s procurement of weapons for the war with Iraq. Yes, there was no Israel and the Jews were and arrangements with the Nazis on the emigration of Jews to Palestine were even a medal with the star of David and a swastika was knocked out for something.
          1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
            Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 09: 43 New
            +6
            Банки и концерны "богоизбранных", размещённые в США и нейтральных странах АКТИВНО сотрудничали с гитлеровским режимом в годы войны! Да и Адольф пришел к власти при содействии банкиров США!
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 00 New
              -19
              With the Nazi regime during the war and the USSR actively collaborated.
              1. Afinogen
                Afinogen 8 November 2015 10: 08 New
                +5
                Quote: miru mir
                With the Nazi regime during the war and the USSR actively collaborated.



                Vraki, there was no cooperation with the Nazis during the war. We crushed them during the war. If there was cooperation then BEFORE the war.
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 36 New
                  -7
                  And when the war began, let me ask you?
                  1. Afinogen
                    Afinogen 8 November 2015 10: 49 New
                    +6
                    Quote: miru mir
                    And when the war began, let me ask you?



                    Our Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941. It turns out there are people who do not know this.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 8 November 2015 10: 53 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Athenogen
                      Quote: miru mir
                      And when the war began, let me ask you?



                      Our Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941. It turns out there are people who do not know this.

                      In general, World War II began in 1939
                      1. saber
                        saber 8 November 2015 11: 14 New
                        +4
                        Then in 1937 with the Japanese attack on China. but it’s still not clear how actively he collaborated with the Nazi regime of the USSR?
                      2. Tusv
                        Tusv 8 November 2015 11: 30 New
                        +4
                        Quote: atalef
                        In general, World War II began in 1939

                        Не путай Отечественную с мировой. Первая началась с приходом "великой армии" Наполеона, вторая со вторым "Евросоюзом" Гитлера. Ну в общем сам понимаешь, что мировая война нам чужда, как и термин "Колония" из за которых вся буча и затевалась
                      3. Rrrj
                        Rrrj 8 November 2015 11: 50 New
                        +2
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Athenogen
                        Quote: miru mir
                        And when the war began, let me ask you?

                        .

                        In general, World War II began in 1939

                        We know this without you.
                    2. miru mir
                      miru mir 8 November 2015 12: 05 New
                      -1
                      The Second World War began a little earlier. AND
                      Quote: Athenogen
                      It turns out there are people who do not know this.
              2. apro
                apro 8 November 2015 10: 24 New
                +3
                Quote: miru mir
                With the Nazi regime during the war and the USSR actively collaborated.

                Just like, through assault strikes by aircraft and tank wedges.
              3. saber
                saber 8 November 2015 10: 37 New
                +4
                а как будет "свидомый" на иврите?
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 8 November 2015 12: 07 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Saber
                  а как будет "свидомый" на иврите?

                  And how will it be in Russian?
                  1. saber
                    saber 8 November 2015 13: 44 New
                    +4
                    Свидомый по-русски будет-свидомый. Русский язык чрезвычайно гибкиЙ и адаптивный. Просто заимствует слово и дает ему новый смысл-"свидомый" - недалекий, малообразованный человек, оголтело хающий советское прошлое , однако ничего не сделавший в постсоветском настоящем
                    1. miru mir
                      miru mir 8 November 2015 15: 00 New
                      0
                      Russian is my native language. And, I hope, I know Russian no worse than you. But the word Svidomo is unfamiliar to me.
                      Quote: Saber
                      a short-sighted, poorly educated man, frantic about the Soviet past, but did nothing in the post-Soviet present

                      And for such a rich definition, there is no Hebrew word.
                      1. saber
                        saber 8 November 2015 16: 34 New
                        +2
                        I give, Svidomo!
                      2. miru mir
                        miru mir 8 November 2015 21: 10 New
                        -1
                        Thank you, but I can somehow manage without this jargon smile
            2. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 30 New
              +3
              The USSR was the last country to sign a non-attack treaty with the Reich, the first was Poland
        2. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 59 New
          0
          I know one thing: from the moment of the seizure of power by America, America, Israel and the Soviet Union were appointed as the main enemies of Iran.
          About that medal, I have not heard. Throw, please, link-interesting. I had a neighbor, a repatriate from Newberg, often told me about Germany. By the way, her husband was a Russian subbotnik, died in 1969. And one of the sons died in the First Lebanese.
          1. apro
            apro 8 November 2015 10: 16 New
            +2
            Please https://my.mail.ru/mail/5kov-57/photo/2783/2922.html
            Not everything is so obvious the shah decided to slowly send Anglo-Saxon partners from the oil fields, but this is not the order, besides the shah kept all the money from them and this is several billion with that money, and besides, the source of tension never prevents him from doing dark things. parties.
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 38 New
              -2
              Wow. Thank you, I have not seen such a miracle. I will rummage at leisure.
            2. Kaiten
              Kaiten 8 November 2015 19: 27 New
              0
              Quote: apro
              Please https://my.mail.ru/mail/5kov-57/photo/2783/2922.html

              Это не еврейская медаль, а медаль палестинских немцев. Были и такие. Они очень активно поддерживали Гитлера и их мандатные британские власти силой переселили в Австралию в 1937. Шестиконечная звезда там изображена, поскольку именно себя они мнили "новым израилем".
    2. atalef
      atalef 8 November 2015 10: 12 New
      -5
      Quote: apro
      Why nonsense? After all, Israel supported Afghan dushmans, helped establish Hamas, helped topple the secular regime of Iran, and collaborated with Iran’s ayatollahs, and you can write an encyclopedia about relations with Nazi Germany.

      1. apro
        apro 8 November 2015 10: 25 New
        +3
        Alexander, is something wrong?
        1. atalef
          atalef 8 November 2015 10: 40 New
          -3
          Quote: apro
          Alexander, is something wrong?

          Sorry, but your nonsense, and it's silly to comment, it's not like that (well, maybe behind the partial truth in the person of Hamas)
          In general, the adequacy, knowledge and horizons are checked precisely in such articles - I see that there is nothing for many (including marshalls) to brag about. You should not try to persuade. Practice, convince others that you and everyone are ruled by Jews, I really like it.
          Everyone finds satisfaction in something that he controls — you can see that they control you. For health.
          And if you think that I will try to convince you of this, don’t hope that you are being ruled, apparently
          1. apro
            apro 8 November 2015 11: 13 New
            +7
            Alexander will leave a bunch of words aside.
            1 connection with the Afghan dushmans, the transfer of either Soviet or Israeli-made weapons, training is an indisputable fact, or are there doubts? Let's discuss
            2Massad’s participation in the Iranian revolution in order to overthrow the secular regime of the Shah and create a hotbed of tension in the region is available.
            According to Hamas, you yourself agreed.
            4cooperation with Nazi Germany as the surname of the Fuhrer?
            1. atalef
              atalef 8 November 2015 11: 19 New
              0
              Quote: apro
              connection with the Afghan dushmans transfer or weapons of Soviet and Israeli production, training is an indisputable fact, or are there doubts? let's discuss


              Come on, an example in the studio.
              at the same time, we will discuss the supply of arms of the USSR to all Arab countries
              Quote: apro
              2Massad’s participation in the Iranian revolution in order to overthrow the secular regime of the Shah and create a hotbed of tension in the region is available.

              come on, especially in terms of - why the heck did we need it
              Quote: apro
              4cooperation with Nazi Germany as the surname of the Fuhrer?


              Israel (which a priori did not exist) or the USSR treaty of 39 years?
              1. apro
                apro 8 November 2015 12: 02 New
                +4
                How much did you run
                at the same time, Wilson, bypassing the State Department, reached an agreement in principle with the politicians of Egypt and Israel (in those years Wilson was one of the few representatives of the pro-Israeli lobby in Washington who were not ethnic Jews, which increased its significance in the eyes of the Israelis) about the possible supply of weapons to Afghan militants. Pakistani inter-agency intelligence ISI agreed to distribute Israeli aid to the Mujahideen, "unless the stars of David are painted on boxes."
                Israel had enough weapons produced in the USSR captured as trophies in numerous wars. In the supply of weapons to friendly Arab states, states and not illegal armed groups, the PLO of the USSR was recognized as a state organization.
                In Iran, there was such an organization SAVAK which was controlled by the Americans and the massad, the result of cooperation the overthrow of the Shah, why the zone of instability brings big dividends.
                Israel is not an independent state; it is a weapon of the SGA in the east.
                The emigration of European Jews began when Hitler came to power and continued after the start of WWII. The Black Sea Fleet of the USSR sank transport in the Black Sea leading Jews to Palestine, was there even a noise. Are Jewish terrorists conducting military operations against the British in Palestine during WWII?
                And what about the 1939 Moscow treaty? Everything, in the framework of international law, officially the USSR did not fight Hitler with Germany, and honestly did not intend to.
                1. Hello
                  Hello 8 November 2015 12: 25 New
                  -1
                  Where did the firewood come from? At least some reference will be?
            2. Hello
              Hello 8 November 2015 11: 22 New
              0
              Quote: apro
              1 connection with the Afghan dushmans, the transfer of either Soviet or Israeli-made weapons, training is an indisputable fact, or are there doubts? Let's discuss

              Давайте какие ваши "неоспоримые" доказательства.
              Quote: apro
              2Massad’s participation in the Iranian revolution in order to overthrow the secular regime of the Shah and create a hotbed of tension in the region is available.

              Give the data.
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 11: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: apro
      Why nonsense? After all, Israel supported Afghan dushmans, helped establish Hamas, helped topple the secular regime of Iran, and collaborated with Iran’s ayatollahs, and you can write an encyclopedia about relations with Nazi Germany.


      I will not argue with anything, Dear Oleg, but with Hamas, I think this is a little bust, colleague. hi
      1. apro
        apro 8 November 2015 12: 21 New
        +3
        Vladimir, too, at first seemed strange to me, but Fatah was pro-Soviet for Israel more dangerous and at first the Hamasites received support for splitting the Palestinian resistance, and when the clashes with Fatah began, it was a balm to perfume the Jews, such a small stroke to release the corporal captured by the Hamas was released hundreds Hamas supporters from Israeli prisons. Why?
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 15: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: apro
          Vladimir, too, at first seemed strange to me, but Fatah was pro-Soviet for Israel more dangerous and at first the Hamasites received support for splitting the Palestinian resistance, and when the clashes with Fatah began, it was a balm to perfume the Jews, such a small stroke to release the corporal captured by the Hamas was released hundreds Hamas supporters from Israeli prisons. Why?


          Да, Олег, что-то о более "лояльном" отношении израильтян к ХАМАС в противовес Ясеровскому ФАТХу я конечно краем уха слышал. Меня однако смушало то что ФАТХ был более типа "рукопожатным" вследствии "умеренности" по сравнению с радикальным ХАМАС. Но тем не менее факт остаётся фактом, какие-то взаимоотношения у израильтян имели место быть. Я это упустил. В следствии чего снимаю свои "объвинения" в Ваш адрес. hi yes
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 16: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        but with Hamas, I think it's a little bust

        Is not a fact. If you look deeper, Hamas is convenient from the point of view of Israel as a constant irritant that allows you to keep the Jewish population consolidated.
        Ben-Gurion, once wrote in the Jewish newspaper Kempfer in New York:
        “If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, using brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews with anti-Semitic slogans.
        I can guarantee that the results, from the point of view of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries, would be ten times greater than the results achieved by thousands of emissaries by reading fruitless sermons. "
        hi
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 17: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Is not a fact. If you look deeper, Hamas is convenient from the point of view of Israel as a constant irritant that allows you to keep the Jewish population consolidated.
          Ben-Gurion, once wrote in the Jewish newspaper Kempfer in New York:
          “If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, using brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews with anti-Semitic slogans.
          I can guarantee that the results, from the point of view of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries, would be ten times greater than the results achieved by thousands of emissaries by reading fruitless sermons. "


          Igor, in this statement by Ben-Gurion, it was not about Israel, but about the countries where Jews lived, with the aim of escalating the situation in them and increasing the growth in the number of returnees to their historical homeland. Yes, and I must admit that over the past time, both the political and demographic situation in Israel has changed significantly and Ben-Gurion’s speech has somewhat lost its relevance.

          Like so, colleague. hi
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 November 2015 17: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            Igor, in this statement by Ben-Gurion, it was not about Israel, but about the countries where Jews lived, with the aim of escalating the situation in them
            Volodya, I’m talking about how to create an image of the enemy in general. And the reception, although not distinguished by the purity of morality, is nonetheless effective, and Hamas is GLOBALLY beneficial to Israel. hi
    4. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 9 November 2015 07: 31 New
      +1
      , and encyclopedias can be written about relations with Nazi Germany.


      And you write, we honor.

      I’m reading the last week - Heisenberg Werner - Physics and PhilosophyI'm straining my brain.
      maybe your decent work will dispel a little.
  • Igor39
    Igor39 8 November 2015 07: 09 New
    18
    Israel helps the Syrian terrorists, nonsense, Israel bombes a sovereign state, nonsense, Israel kills Palestinians and destroys their property, also nonsense. Well, where isn’t nonsense then?
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 8 November 2015 07: 39 New
      15
      Для них не бред это только то, что вещают они менторским тоном, наставляя на "путь истинный" нас неграмотных бедолаг. Особенно в этом преуспели 2-3 посетителя этого сайта, которые хорошо известны.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 8 November 2015 09: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: rotmistr60
        2-3 visitors to this site who are well known.

        Something like that, I looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere 1-2 minutes. Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?
        1. atalef
          atalef 8 November 2015 09: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: rotmistr60
          2-3 visitors to this site who are well known.

          Something like that, I looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere 1-2 minutes. Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?

          Do you want to put a plus sign? What would your self-esteem increase?
        2. Slobber
          Slobber 8 November 2015 10: 03 New
          -6
          Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?

          Поставлю "плюсик", только не нойте пожалуйста.
        3. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 10: 17 New
          +3
          looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere minus 1-2
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 8 November 2015 10: 32 New
            +9
            на такие темы это всегда - минимум! "Они" по всем подряд "Несвоим" проходят минусами!
            Also notice!
            Да и другие обиженные и оскорблённые имеют отрицательную "пипку жать"! laughing
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 41 New
              -3
              Hold and you. smile
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 41 New
            +6
            Keep a plus sign from me. I always thought that plus or minus expresses agreement or disagreement with the comment. And many give it some other meaning. what
        4. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 9 November 2015 07: 43 New
          +1
          Something like that, I looked through the ratings of comments - almost everywhere 1-2 minutes. Fingers minus not tired, the descendants of Judah?


          No, they’re not tired, but whose will you be?
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 08: 58 New
      -8
      Israel destroys terrorists.
      Israel bombes the enemy state of Syria when it tries to arm Hezbollah terrorists with Russian weapons.
      Israel eradicates FILYSTIN terrorists and destroys their property.
      This is not nonsense.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 18 New
        +5
        Quote: miru mir
        Israel bombes the enemy state of Syria when it tries to arm Hezbollah terrorists with Russian weapons.

        You say Russian weapons. Yes, the shells of the MLRS from which the missiles are made were made in Russia, but who supplies them?
        Syria is a hostile state? Name one allied state of Israel from neighbors.
        Netutiti
        1. Hello
          Hello 8 November 2015 09: 29 New
          -6
          Quote: Tusv
          Name one allied state of Israel from neighbors.

          What do you mean by the word ally? Israel really has no allies in its close circle, I think there is no need to explain the reasons? More recently, we fought with them, and yet the memory has not faded. If we take foreign countries, Israel has many friends and allies.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 40 New
            +6
            Quote: Hello
            Israel really has no allies in its close circle, I think there is no need to explain the reasons?

            But what did Israel do to make at least one loyal state surrounded?
            1. Hello
              Hello 8 November 2015 09: 45 New
              -5
              Quote: Tusv
              But what did Israel do to make at least one loyal state surrounded?

              Are you talking about loyal or about allies? These are different things. Egypt and Jordan are loyal to us.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 59 New
                +4
                Quote: Hello
                Egypt and Jordan are loyal to us.

                Egypt? They have very reverent feelings for Israel. Take a promotion. Jordan? I do not know, was not. After Khattab, a persistent gag reflex to this state
                1. Hello
                  Hello 8 November 2015 10: 04 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Egypt? They have very reverent feelings for Israel. Take a promotion. Jordan? I do not know, was not. After Khattab, a persistent gag reflex to this state

                  Absolutely sideways what feelings they feel there, the main thing is that Egyptian interests coincide in many respects with Israeli ones. And no one had any tremulous feelings for anyone.
                2. miru mir
                  miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 43 New
                  0
                  Yes, I didn’t get out from there at one time. When he was young and poor hi
            2. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 9 November 2015 07: 46 New
              0
              But what did Israel do to make at least one loyal state surrounded?



              We drove them to Lunapark, we bought ice cream that we just didn’t.
              they don’t want to play with us and that’s it ...
        2. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Tusv
          Name one allied state of Israel from neighbors.

          Egypt, Jordan. Broaden your horizons, dear
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 8 November 2015 10: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: miru mir
            Egypt, Jordan. Broaden your horizons, dear

            Apazdal. My horizons Hello expanded. hi
          2. EvgNik
            EvgNik 8 November 2015 11: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: miru mir
            Egypt, Jordan. Broaden your horizons, dear

            Oh, they made fun, and in which direction do you want to broaden your horizons? Toward Egypt or Jordan? Yes, and in chorus and the same thing, so there were only enemies around.
            1. Hello
              Hello 8 November 2015 12: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: EvgNik
              Oh, they made fun, and in which direction do you want to broaden your horizons? Toward Egypt or Jordan? Yes, and in chorus and the same thing, so there were only enemies around.

              Paranoia?
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 9 November 2015 07: 47 New
                +2
                Paranoia?


                By the way, relapse already.
          3. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 41 New
            +2
            there, half of the population for Muslim brothers, as the elections showed, at one time these guys killed secular Egyptian presidents and Al-Sisi, with all due respect to him, is not immortal and not eternal, especially now when the Egyptian economy is going through bad times and in the Sinai a full-fledged war can it so happens that the military will not hold on to power and the Muslim lads will return what kind of relationship will it be this issue, the same king of Jordan rests only on bayonets and direct support of the states among the people openly hate him and sympathy for erroristam grow
      2. Afinogen
        Afinogen 8 November 2015 10: 14 New
        11
        Quote: miru mir
        Israel destroys terrorists.
        Israel bombes the enemy state of Syria when it tries to arm Hezbollah terrorists with Russian weapons.


        And also destroys the civilian population, women of old people and children.
        1. tilix
          tilix 8 November 2015 10: 33 New
          +1
          Where is it? In Syria? Valiant Russian pilots noted?
          1. Afinogen
            Afinogen 8 November 2015 10: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: tilix
            Where is it? In Syria? Valiant Russian pilots noted?


            No, not in Syria, in Palestine. And the saddest thing is, look at the chronicle of the Second World War when the Nazis bombed the peaceful cities of Europe and the parallels themselves loom.


            1. tilix
              tilix 8 November 2015 11: 54 New
              +1
              Not in Syria? Then probably in the destroyed Grozny. Or in Kabul? Where else have you leveled the face of the earth? List lead? We are up to your destruction to grow and grow.
              And remember, who does not shoot, that will not fall. And if I shot, well, whoever didn’t hide is not my fault.
              1. Afinogen
                Afinogen 8 November 2015 15: 57 New
                +3
                Quote: tilix
                List lead?


                Ну конечно, надо бы привести, только не домыслы, а факты, и если есть то лучше видео( если оно есть в чем сильно сомневаюсь) Дело в том что ваши СМИ под контролем хозяев из за океана, как говорится один "стандарт". А стандарт заключается в том, чтоб лить сплошную бездоказательную лож. Много мы видели правды в западных СМИ ? Украину оккупировали Российские войска, малозийский боинг тоже мы, в Сирии боремся не с террористами, а с оппозицией и мирным населением. Когда мы просим хоть одно доказательство, то они говорят вы верьте на слово. Потом выясняется что у них не проверенная информация была.
                1. tilix
                  tilix 8 November 2015 16: 10 New
                  +1
                  Video? And the keys and ears? Start when, from Budapest to 20 or from the 10 century?
                  1. anti-Semite
                    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 16: 35 New
                    +3
                    in Vietnam alone, your beloved ally has killed more than died in all Russian wars over the past 1000 years, so give up this hypocritical pathos
                  2. Afinogen
                    Afinogen 8 November 2015 17: 17 New
                    +2
                    Quote: tilix
                    Video? And the keys and ears? Start when, from Budapest to 20 or from the 10 century?


                    Again only threats to show laughing laughing laughing I've provided photos and videos, as they say on the face and facts.
                    But doesn’t it seem to you that the lying policy of yours over the ocean hosts is already playing a very cruel joke with all of you (who supports it) ????? After all, more and more they begin to realize this and as a result they cease to believe (although the truth will sound). It's like a famous parable about a boy and wolves.
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 17: 24 New
                      +2
                      Well look, the city of Grozny
                    2. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 17: 32 New
                      +1


                      There, the city of Grozny.
                    3. Afinogen
                      Afinogen 8 November 2015 17: 58 New
                      +5
                      Quote: tilix
                      There, the city of Grozny.



                      We did not compare Grozny with bombs, as Israeli pilots do (because it’s easier, and most importantly safe). Our army entered Grozny and recaptured it; there were street battles. But you do not conduct a ground operation, it all comes down to the bombing of civilian targets. Why bring in infantry because they can kill. And besides, now we have rebuilt Grozny, he is now better than he was. Have you restored at least one destroyed civilian object that you destroyed in Palestine ?????
                      And what is all the evidence? request
                    4. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 18: 12 New
                      +1
                      But you do not conduct ground operations
                      So they started asking for videos and photos, but when they got started, they started raving? There is the General Staff, my youngest opponent, and if he decided to bomb (like Russia in Syria), they would bomb, and in no other way, they would decide it with infantry, then infantry. Go, learn the materiel, with such a wealth of knowledge you will not even be invited to St. Petersburg to Lena. And here you are at the military forum talking nonsense. Or are they just like that?
                    5. Afinogen
                      Afinogen 8 November 2015 18: 43 New
                      +2
                      Quote: tilix
                      So started by asking for videos and photos,


                      So I asked for evidence, but there was none at all, one unfounded chatter, if everything is different according to Western media standards, there is a desire to defame, there is no main evidence.


                      Quote: tilix
                      my youngest opponent


                      From what is this statement, or, as always, just to blurt out.

                      Quote: tilix
                      if he decided to bomb (like Russia in Syria)


                      Russia does not bomb civilians like Israel in Palestine. If there is no evidence to the contrary, it is better not to raise this topic, and the fake that mattresses invented is better not to show (they themselves laugh from him)

                      Quote: tilix
                      Go learn the materiel


                      Another nonsense. What is the mat part in FIG, is it a tank or something? I actually wrote about the strategy.

                      Quote: tilix
                      you will not even be invited to Peter to Lena.

                      Something I honestly do not understand the meaning of what was written (maybe he is of course present) What is Lena and why does she live in St. Petersburg?

                      Quote: tilix
                      Or are they just like that?


                      What makes you think that someone is being held here by force? You also seem to be on the forum and no one is holding you here.
                    6. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 18: 57 New
                      +1
                      one unfounded chatter
                      Why did it happen? And photos and videos from Grozny destroyed by Russia.
                      What is this statement about?
                      If it’s not clear to you when they attack and what, then it’s better for me to think that you are young.
                      Russia does not bomb civilians with bombs
                      So civilians say that yes.

                      И вот что, давайте мирно разойдёмся, не буду с вами "про стратегию" рассуждать.
                    7. Afinogen
                      Afinogen 8 November 2015 23: 05 New
                      +2
                      Quote: tilix
                      Why did it happen? And photos and videos from Grozny destroyed by Russia.


                      You just don't want to listen. I repeat once again, Grozny was not destroyed by aircraft bombs. and freed by a ground operation from terrorists, then rebuilt, became even better than it was. Grozny residents gathered in the square on the holiday of national unity, waved Russian flags and sang a hymn. it says something.

                      Quote: tilix
                      If it’s not clear to you when they attack and what, then it’s better for me to think that you are young


                      Laughed heartily laughing If my point of view does not coincide with yours, it means young, original (I did not expect such a turn of thought laughing )

                      Quote: tilix
                      So civilians say that yes.


                      I guess the dyke from once, This amnrikosy says that says the civilian population. One can see their handwriting with no armed eyes. They accuse Russia of bombing the moderate opposition (the same word came up with moderate lol ) But they themselves admitted that there were only five of them left and they lost them, but the accusations are made.

                      Quote: tilix
                      И вот что, давайте мирно разойдёмся, не буду с вами "про стратегию" рассуждать.


                      Yes, I have not fought with you, I am for world peace and justice.
          2. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 8 November 2015 17: 38 New
            -2
            But only Chechnya is Russia and the city of Grozny is our city wanted to be destroyed wanted to be rebuilt, we acted on our territory you are ruining cities in other states
          3. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 19: 04 New
            +2
            They wanted to destroy your relatives, they wanted to destroy a neighbor who drank tea peacefully.
            He wanted to take a knife and stabbed him with a loaf of bread - and for some reason, our city, whatever we want, is your morality or laws.
          4. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 8 November 2015 19: 30 New
            0
            exactly what happens within our borders applies only to those living here
          5. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 19: 34 New
            +3
            Those would be to a psychiatrist .. fool
          6. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 04 New
            +2
            interesting logic, the inhabitants of Israel climb into the interior of the showdown between Russians and Chechens, but to me a psychiatrist? I’m not getting into your internal affairs. I’m your corrupt power, like your showdown with the Arabs. I’m watching the Kremlin.
          7. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 20: 15 New
            +1
            You still do not understand why you need a psychiatrist. Well, okay, don’t strain, it’s bad for you wassat
          8. Pimply
            Pimply 8 November 2015 20: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: anti-Semite
            interesting logic, the inhabitants of Israel climb into the interior of the showdown between Russians and Chechens, but to me a psychiatrist? I’m not getting into your internal affairs. I’m your corrupt power, like your showdown with the Arabs. I’m watching the Kremlin.

            Well, you personally climb into the internal showdown of the Israelis with the Arabs. And among Jews, the showdown is much more closely related to Arabs than among Russians - with Chechens
          9. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 27 New
            +2
            so stop! I care about your affairs, but the bases in Syria are already our affairs, not only geopolitically but also in terms of the security of our state
          10. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 20: 38 New
            -3
            You can’t figure it out in your Caucasus, but you don’t need to bother.
            Therefore, airplanes explode recourse

            During special operations in the North Caucasus, over the past five years, 875 Russian law enforcement officers have died. This was stated by the head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the North Caucasus Federal District (SKFO) Sergey Chenchik.


            And how many civilians ..
          11. anti-Semite
            anti-Semite 8 November 2015 21: 10 New
            +1
            under Yeltsin, we lost more than 875 deaths per 5 years more than now in a year? about 30 per year die on our roads in this regard, in this regard, the chance of dying in the Caucasus is much lower than crashed by a car, so progress is huge planes have been blown up everywhere and for a long time, have you heard about Lockerbie? Is Putin to blame?
          12. Wiski
            Wiski 9 November 2015 19: 50 New
            -2
            we have about 30 deaths on the roads per year


            airplanes explode everywhere and for a long time


            Well, if this does not surprise you and is quite ordinary for you, then there’s nothing to talk about hi
        2. Good me
          Good me 8 November 2015 22: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: Wiski
          You can’t figure it out in your Caucasus, but you don’t need to bother.
          Therefore, airplanes explode


          In general, matzo, overeating?!? You ... I don’t know what to call ...

          At the hour when the country mourns the victims of the crash, crawled up, an adder, and you are fooling around over the tragedy?

          Продублирую этот комментарий к тебе в "личку", и ТРЕБУЮ,чтоб ты удалил эту гнусность САМ, и ПРОСИЛ ПРОЩЕНИЯ У РОССИИ...

          DO NOT DO THIS, I will write a complaint to the administration so that they give an assessment.
    3. andj61
      andj61 8 November 2015 20: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Pimply
      Well, you personally climb into the internal showdown of the Israelis with the Arabs. And among Jews, the showdown is much more closely related to Arabs than among Russians - with Chechens

      Yes, just Russians and Jews are real brothers! bully
      Aramaic brothers! yes
      And the corresponding article, confirming this fact, was recently published at the VO ... wink http://topwar.ru/85196-arameyskoe-bratstvo.html#comment-id-5149680
    4. Pimply
      Pimply 8 November 2015 21: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: andj61
      Yes, just Russians and Jews are real brothers!
      Aramaic brothers!
      And the article corresponding, confirming this fact, was recently published in the VO ... http://topwar.ru/85196-arameyskoe-bratstvo.html#comment-id-5149680

      So another would argue, stamped his feet
  • Wiski
    Wiski 8 November 2015 11: 59 New
    0
    Ну да конечно..такие прям "мирные" города из которых летят тысячи ракет и в которых арабские боевики стреляют из за спин женщин и детей, из мечетей, больниц и жилых домов.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 8 November 2015 17: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Wiski
      Ну да конечно..такие прям "мирные" города из которых летят тысячи ракет и в которых арабские боевики стреляют из за спин женщин и детей, из мечетей, больниц и жилых домов

      Naturally, the Arabs answer you the same thing - after the Jewish occupation of Arab land after the brutal bombing and shelling of their cities and houses by the Israeli military after the assassination of your army of Arab children, women and the elderly.
      Or did you expect something else after those terrible crimes that you committed against the Arabs?
      1. Wiski
        Wiski 8 November 2015 19: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: quilted jacket
        after the Jewish occupation of Arab land after the brutal bombing and shelling of their cities and houses by the Israeli military after your army killed Arab children, women and the elderly.



        Oh, I’m crying straight. The losses are quite normal due to the fact that terrorists hide behind civilians, do not let them leave, shoot from houses and mosques with hospitals.

        When an Arab terrorist shoots out of a house with children and women and a rocket flies in to destroy him, it’s not Israel’s fault.

        For so many years of conflict, the number of victims is quite acceptable.

        Occupation of the Arab land .. what land? By what right? Did they have sovereignty there? no. Have they adopted a resolution on division? No. They went to kill the Jews and many times- YES.
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 8 November 2015 21: 20 New
        -1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        terrible crimes


        Quote: quilted jacket
        after brutal bombing

        You would, mahmud, change the manuals, scorching black laughing The same sad and deceitful cries. Ugh ...
  • tilix
    tilix 8 November 2015 12: 26 New
    +1
    Oh, the minuscars have flown. Does it hurt when you are true then in the face?
    Yeah, it’s not for you a helpless Jew to break off the pace.
    1. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 8 November 2015 15: 32 New
      +1
      choose the expression x-o. and in terrible, so they themselves to blame Russian soldiers.
    2. andj61
      andj61 8 November 2015 20: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: tilix
      Oh, the minuscars have flown. Does it hurt when you are true then in the face?
      Yeah, it’s not for you a helpless Jew to break off the pace.


      We know, we know how helpless you are ... wink
      1. tilix
        tilix 8 November 2015 21: 03 New
        +2
        Thank you dear, but here, below, a noble Siberian hunter wrestler, boasts that he had fun.
        1. andj61
          andj61 8 November 2015 21: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: tilix
          Thank you dear, but here, below, a noble Siberian hunter wrestler, boasts that he had fun.

          Yes, I read your mutual posts - this is something with something! And I am, in irony ..
          Something again organized in Sunday srach organized, but out of the blue.
          1. tilix
            tilix 8 November 2015 21: 18 New
            +1
            No, out of the blue does not happen,
            Themes with development (Sracha): Israel, Jewish manifestation, f-35.
            if the topic does not grow, we invest one of the previous ones. Something like this...
            1. andj61
              andj61 8 November 2015 22: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: tilix
              No, out of the blue does not happen,
              Themes with development (Sracha): Israel, Jewish manifestation, f-35.
              if the topic does not grow, we invest one of the previous ones. Something like this...

              good hi
  • anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 42 New
    +3
    Russian pilots do not bomb children we are not Jews
  • Bekas1967
    Bekas1967 8 November 2015 22: 18 New
    +2
    Absolutely moron? ((((
  • miru mir
    miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 46 New
    0
    http://izrus.co.il/obshie_novosti/news/2015-05-27/94540.html
    Basically, the warriors of Allah of their various and diverse terrorist organizations. There are many of them in Finland.
  • Wiski
    Wiski 8 November 2015 11: 55 New
    -10
    Show footage of the Chechen war?
    Or can he talk about the massacre in the new Alds by Russian special forces?


    Я думаю не стоит. А вот, что стоит так это понять простую вещь учитывая плотность территории, учитывая, что перед любым обстрелом Израиль раскидывает листовки, звонит,кидает смс, кидает предупредительные мини "бомбочки-хлопки" , которые предупреждают, что нужно покидать место и скоро будут бомбить и самое главное, что Хамас и хизбалла прикрываются мирными жителями, стреляет из мечетей, школ, больниц, домов, хранят боеприпасы под домами мирных жителей и запускают ракеты из густонаселённый мест, то подобные потери мирного населения вполне нормальные,а я бы сказал, очень низкие. К нам в Израиль американцы ездят,чтобы понять ,как максимально избежать потерь мирного населения в густонаселённых районах. Не говоря уж о том, что Израиль использует высокоточное оружие .

    Anyone can show such photos, but this is propaganda and nothing more.

    Not to mention the fact that there are a lot of cases when the Arabs themselves killed their own because of problems with missiles and other things

    Так например, Выпущенная ХАМАСом в направлении Тель-Авива ракета взорвалась у больницы "Шифа" в Газе, упав на детский сад. Убито 5 детей, десятки ранены.




    So those killed (if at all since the Arabs are known for staging) could well have died at the hands of the Arabs themselves, given that approximately 20-30 percent of Hamas missiles fell or exploded inside the Gaza Strip
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 8 November 2015 12: 18 New
      +4
      Show footage of the Chechen war? ,,
      you really show the LPR and the DPR, the fierce defenders of the ukrofashists. and the fact that you have come to know the enemies, blame yourself.
      1. Wiski
        Wiski 8 November 2015 12: 22 New
        0
        Israel has never defended ukrofashistov. You stupid attacks No.
      2. tilix
        tilix 8 November 2015 12: 29 New
        +1
        Is it you who are now telling us about the enemies that you’ve been carrying? Tell us about your neurons?
        1. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 46 New
          -1
          China Kazakhstan Korea Belarus Armenia
        2. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 8 November 2015 15: 35 New
          +3
          friends - more than yours
    2. anti-Semite
      anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 47 New
      +5
      recall how the Chechen war began? recall that Russia granted Chechnya freedom and independence and they climbed into Dagestan?
    3. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 8 November 2015 15: 34 New
      +2
      show and prove that the special forces and not the militants themselves, just like your gas?
    4. NIKNN
      NIKNN 8 November 2015 17: 51 New
      +4
      Show footage of the Chechen war?
      Or can he talk about the massacre in the new Alds by Russian special forces?

      You were there?
      перед любым обстрелом Израиль раскидывает листовки, звонит,кидает смс, кидает предупредительные мини "бомбочки

      Before any execution, a sentence is read.
      And from your SMS, what's the use? Present as proof or is it a code to the account where you compensate for the destroyed house, where 15-20 families of 15 people lived (by the way, where do they live now? And is your foresight now on the drum). And all your SMS flyers are the same hypocrisy, you do not scatter them for them, but try to make excuses to the world for your crimes. Tell me why you did not have enough territory that you were given for the formation of the state, why did you take a chance on someone else's?
      I didn’t want, by God, they brought the absurdity rabid. Not all protections in discussions are appropriate.
      1. tilix
        tilix 8 November 2015 18: 00 New
        +2
        Tell me why you did not have enough territory
        Wrong question.
        Ask your protégés why they did not accept the partition plan in 1948, why they constantly attacked Israel 1948,1956,1967, 1974, and when they lost, they were suddenly at a loss.
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  • atalef
    atalef 8 November 2015 10: 15 New
    +3
    Quote: Igor39
    Israel helps the Syrian terrorists, nonsense, Israel bombes a sovereign state, nonsense, Israel kills Palestinians and destroys their property, also nonsense. Well, where isn’t nonsense then?


    Neil in Gaza is true.
  • gjv
    gjv 8 November 2015 08: 07 New
    10
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Let the anti-Semites be amuse themselves without us.

    What fun without fascist Zionists?
    Not all Jews are ardent Zionist Semites.
    However, the Zionists rule the ball there.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 08: 59 New
      -8
      Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose purpose is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Israel)
      1. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 8 November 2015 09: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: miru mir
        Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose purpose is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Israel)

        Quote from a Jew from the movie Brother 2:
        ".........Родина! Сегодня родина там, где задница в тепле, и ты лучше меня это знаешь!"
        And that's it....
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 04 New
          +3
          Well, if you take the film as the basis of life, that’s the truth.
      2. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 45 New
        0
        not a very popular movement with you as I see, while yours prefer to love Israel from hated Russia
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  • Tusv
    Tusv 8 November 2015 08: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense

    For three quarters of a century, Israel has existed - there haven’t been more friends, but, on the contrary, there are enemies around. What kind of policy do you have?
  • Amurets
    Amurets 8 November 2015 08: 40 New
    +8
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense. Let the anti-Semites be amuse themselves without us.

    Respected! I have always been prejudiced against URP patriots, I carefully read comments from Israel, because the main thing is to get truthful information from the scene, but I'm sorry, after Netanyahu’s secret visits to Moscow, after the Americans betrayed Israel’s interests, one would think that Israel would remain at least neutral. I think that now we can safely supply long-range air defense systems not only to Iran, but also to Syria. And I think that we should look for the trail of Israel in the tragedy of the A-321 aircraft.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 01 New
      -4
      Bgyyy ... It’s very habitual and convenient, I am the blame for everything.
      1. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 49 New
        +1
        you don’t need to remember about you only when you start poking your nose into Russian affairs
    2. Wiski
      Wiski 8 November 2015 11: 38 New
      -4
      Tsar Bell mute, shaky,
      The Tsar Cannon does not shoot, the mother of the child;
      and it’s clear that the Jews are to blame,
      it remains only to find the annals.
  • Name
    Name 8 November 2015 08: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    I urge the Israelis not to respond to this nonsense.

    Oh, I want to in the field laughing Sunday gag, produce:
  • Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +2
    "ИЗЯ! Гляди "НАШИ" подтягиваются!"
  • shans2
    shans2 8 November 2015 12: 20 New
    +3
    branding them all immediately with anti-Semites is an old Jewish strategy, but facts are stubborn.
    1. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 8 November 2015 12: 56 New
      +2
      immediately condemn all anti-Semites

      Of course, if you would have written clever here, we would have made you smart, and so antesimites, what can you do!
      By the way, this is still garbage, here on the site and the forum, too, you’ll post news about disasters in Russia (not such garbage as this article), you automatically become a Russophobe!
      1. Kuzyakin15
        Kuzyakin15 8 November 2015 20: 33 New
        +1
        Dan4eG:
        And what are you, my dear man, right under the two nicknames rummage now on the forum? Ural-Chel, too, are you?
        1. Dan4eG
          Dan4eG 8 November 2015 20: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Kuzyakin15
          Dan4eG:
          And what are you, my dear man, right under the two nicknames rummage now on the forum? Ural-Chel, too, are you?

          belay you confuse something! I'm on the forum and here under the same name! and it's all! ask modders!
  • Hello
    Hello 8 November 2015 06: 58 New
    0
    Not a day without stuffing. fellow
    Well it is necessary what Spaniards fellows determine from photographs of terrorists, a show of psychics resting. wassat
    - The annexation of the Syrian Golan Heights, rich in water sources and the implementation of control over the water resources of neighboring countries. It should be noted that the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq and Syria are under the control of jihadists. According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to cut off the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

    According to another plan developed after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and called Oranim, it is planned to create a so-called “hydraulic safety zone” to control Lebanon’s water resources. It should be noted that NATO also considered similar plans in 2011.


    Я плакал "шпецеалистов" видно издалека,особенно про Нил в Газе понравилось.
    A small Jewish state can become a superpower if there are three elements: territory, oil, and water. All these elements are in neighboring countries.

    wassat What are they smoking in the editorial office?
    1. UralMan
      UralMan 8 November 2015 08: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Hello
      Я плакал "шпецеалистов" видно издалека,особенно про Нил в Газе понравилось.

      Quote: Hello
      it is planned to block the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

      Brilliant ...
      And with a lake in the USA and Canada, they did not try to block access to Gaza.
      Поистине "великие мысли" бродят в умах МЫСЛИТЕЛЕЙ.
      --------------------
      Oh yes ... I forgot, there is also water on Mars ... it also needs to .... shut off
      --------------------
      Abram - you heard what they say:
      - NASA representatives said they still do not have reliable information on whether there is water on Mars.
      “According to them, the accident was the fault in which the Spirit research apparatus fell.” He drowned.
      Sarah, I beg you, do not even think to tell anyone else about this ...
      - Again blame the Jews ...

      Well, what can I say here ... it remains only to scratch the back of the head
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Hello
      What are they smoking in the editorial office?

      This is not a smoke. Only from intravenous can so stick.
      1. Hello
        Hello 8 November 2015 09: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: miru mir
        This is not a smoke. Only from intravenous can so stick.

        I cried about the Jewish superpower, 8 million Jews will put the whole world in a knee-elbow pose. laughing A sense of inferiority or what? request
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Hello
          A sense of inferiority or what?

          I do not know. But judging by the comments, something is out of order in the minds of many Russians, definitely.
    3. opus
      opus 8 November 2015 12: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Hello
      Я плакал "шпецеалистов" видно издалека,особенно про Нил в Газе понравилось.

      Quote: atalef
      Neil in Gaza is true.

      ..

      Quote: Author
      According to the Yeor plan, developed in 1974, it is planned to block the access of water from the Nile River to the Gaza Strip.

      Well, the author got a little messy (either the Nubian aquifer, or the aquifer of the Jordan River).
      But most likely associated the Egyptians (no matter which) and R. Neil.
      The point is this (if we ignore the control of the river Nile by Israel)


      1.Gas sector:
      There is only one source of fresh water in Gaza - the coastal aquifer that is underground.
      It is also used by Israel and Egypt. Since Gaza’s water intake is located downstream, Israel can control the flow of water and prevent the source from replenishing naturally.


      At a distance of several hundred meters from the sea, fresh water is at a depth of forty centimeters, then the aquifer abruptly goes down. It is this narrow coastal strip, the most fertile in the entire Gaza Strip, and occupied and control the Egyptian Bedouin tribe of Muashi almost the entire coast.
      in 1972, before the Yom Kippur War, when Sinai was still yours. From Egypt, several Bedouin families from this tribe came to the area of ​​Jewish settlements under construction. Jews joyfully gave them a job.
      The Egyptian Bedouins were considered loyal to the Israeli authorities: they hate the Egyptian-Fellahs with fierce hatred and the Egyptian administration pays them the same.
      At the moment, the number of Muasi is, according to the settlers of Gush Katif, from 50 to 70 thousand.


      2.


      3.Израиль объявил сектор Газа "враждебной территорией" (в 2007 вроде бы)
      После официального объявления сектора Газа "враждебной территорией" Израиль может заявить, что более не должен подчиняться положениям международного права and supply water, electricity and fuel to 1,5 million people in the Gaza Strip.
      4.С водой в секторе газа -"труба":
      1. Hello
        Hello 8 November 2015 13: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: opus

        3.Израиль объявил сектор Газа "враждебной территорией" (в 2007 вроде бы)
        После официального объявления сектора Газа "враждебной территорией" Израиль может заявить, что более не должен подчиняться положениям международного права и поставлять воду, свет и топливо 1,5 млн. жителей сектора Газа.
        4.С водой в секторе газа -"труба":

        It seems to be possible but for some reason continues to supply water and electricity and medicines.
        1. tilix
          tilix 8 November 2015 13: 15 New
          +1
          for some reason continues to supply
          But he could cut with a razor.
          1. Russiamoy
            Russiamoy 8 November 2015 15: 42 New
            0
            two handles
        2. andj61
          andj61 8 November 2015 13: 52 New
          +3
          Quote: Hello
          It seems to be possible but for some reason continues to supply water and electricity and medicines.

          The most amazing thing is that it delivers completely free. But international law does not require this at all. And after the seizure of power in Gaza by Hamas militants, it resembles sponsoring terrorists ... request
          1. tilix
            tilix 8 November 2015 13: 55 New
            +2
            That is, would you suggest that 100% of the population of Gaza are terrorists? If not, then this is a humanitarian aid with which I personally disagree, but there is a reason for its delivery.
            1. andj61
              andj61 8 November 2015 14: 56 New
              +4
              Quote: tilix
              That is, would you suggest that 100% of the population of Gaza are terrorists? If not, then this is a humanitarian aid with which I personally disagree, but there is a reason for its delivery.

              1. Humanitarian assistance may be a one-time action, or from time to time, but not continuously for a long time. Nobody pays to pay for electricity and water, and is not going to pay, but they are worth the money!
              2. With the help of free electricity and water, the infrastructure of terrorists is being built - isn’t that so?
              So let's do this: flies separately, and cutlets - separately.
              Слишком уж ваше руководство прислушивается к "международному общественному мнению"! А террористы используют это в своих интересах - примеры Вам известны даже лучше, чем мне.
              1. Hello
                Hello 8 November 2015 14: 58 New
                +4
                Quote: andj61
                Слишком уж ваше руководство прислушивается к "международному общественному мнению"! А террористы используют это в своих интересах - примеры Вам известны даже лучше, чем мне.

                Absolutely agree yes
              2. tilix
                tilix 8 November 2015 15: 33 New
                +4
                And terrorists take advantage of this

                A holy place is never empty. I have already said. I don’t agree with such a decision, since how many terrorists do not feed ... on the other hand, how much Russia has invested in Chechnya, and it helped.
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 8 November 2015 15: 43 New
                  0
                  We don’t have so much. Yes, and it helped, not exactly said. As soon as Allah runs out of money for subsidies, the situation will radically change.
                  1. tilix
                    tilix 8 November 2015 16: 12 New
                    +2
                    It's not a no. We will not allow it. IMHO.
                  2. andj61
                    andj61 8 November 2015 16: 35 New
                    +1
                    Quote: miru mir
                    We don’t have so much. Yes, and it helped, not exactly said. As soon as Allah runs out of money for subsidies, the situation will radically change.

                    Это вряд ли. Тут психология большую роль играет. Чеченцы - воины. И столкнулись там тоже в воинами. Да и наши -во вторую чеченскую - на "международное общественное мнение" в такой степени, как в Израиле, не оглядывались, когда решили этот вопрос закрыть. А по деньгам - в Чечне добывается, наверное, самая лучшая в мире нефть для производства всевозможных смазок. Дали возможность оставить доходыв с нефтедобычи м нефтепереработки у них - это себя оправдало.
                    В Израиле тоже можно было пойти по примерно такому же пути - залежи углеводородов имеются - для создания такой же "подушки". Воли нет - у правительства - решить этот вопрос раз и навсегда. Ведь тогда получится, что из Газы уходили напрасно...
                    But all the same, someday the Israeli government will be confronted with the need to resolve this issue.
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 16: 49 New
                      +2
                      I already wrote to you that sometimes you just have great posts? Part I two hands behind. good
                    2. Pimply
                      Pimply 8 November 2015 18: 18 New
                      +1
                      Quote: andj61
                      В Израиле тоже можно было пойти по примерно такому же пути - залежи углеводородов имеются - для создания такой же "подушки". Воли нет - у правительства - решить этот вопрос раз и навсегда. Ведь тогда получится, что из Газы уходили напрасно...

                      How naive you are
                      1. andj61
                        andj61 8 November 2015 21: 02 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Quote: andj61
                        В Израиле тоже можно было пойти по примерно такому же пути - залежи углеводородов имеются - для создания такой же "подушки". Воли нет - у правительства - решить этот вопрос раз и навсегда. Ведь тогда получится, что из Газы уходили напрасно...

                        How naive you are

                        That is - in your opinion - the will of the Government of Israel is enough? what
                        This is what distinguishes writing posts from realpolitiks - the ability to express their light, even unpleasant - for someone - and almost impossible to implement in a harsh reality. yes
                        В Чечне ситуация была гораздо хуже, чем у Израиля с "палестинцами" - но стоило одному человеку у руля проявить волю - и - надеюсь - получилось. Не было бы воли - до сих пор бабахи бегали бы там по горам.
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 8 November 2015 21: 47 New
                        0
                        Quote: andj61
                        В Чечне ситуация была гораздо хуже, чем у Израиля с "палестинцами" - но стоило одному человеку у руля проявить волю - и - надеюсь - получилось. Не было бы воли - до сих пор бабахи бегали бы там по горам.

                        In fact, no. Russia still remained Russia and sat in the UN Security Council with veto power
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 8 November 2015 15: 04 New
            +4
            Let the population of gases be provided by the Hamas chosen by this population.
        3. Hello
          Hello 8 November 2015 14: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: andj61
          The most amazing thing is that it delivers completely free. But international law does not require this at all. And after the seizure of power in Gaza by Hamas militants, it resembles sponsoring terrorists ...

          I'm not sure I can answer without a mat, but I will try. Our Israeli government, with a tenacity worthy of a better application, has been supplying Gaza. On the one hand, we refuse to supply us will be branded the world together, on the other hand it’s no secret that Hamas uses a lot of supplies for military operations. That is, we ourselves feed the enemy. The reason here is what, in my opinion, is not a thoughtful way out of the sector in 2006, then the government’s inability to think one step further in 2007,2008,2009,2011 and 2013. Each time the same thing starts, the operation will begin and how they will start shouting in Washington we turn it off, but we don’t finish it. It seems like without a mat wink In general, I wholeheartedly love politicians of all stripes.
          1. andj61
            andj61 8 November 2015 14: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: Hello
            . Each time we start the same operation and how to start screaming in Washington we turn it off and don't finish it. It seems like without a mat.

            good I’ll also add my five cents: instead of destroying terrorists ONCE, Israel creates such wonders of technological thought as the Iron Dome — this is only to protect its population. And after all, this can be done easier and cheaper - and any commander in the army is well aware that this requires only political will - and nothing more!
            1. Hello
              Hello 8 November 2015 15: 07 New
              +3
              Quote: andj61

              I’ll also add my five cents: instead of destroying terrorists ONCE, Israel creates such wonders of technological thought as the Iron Dome — this is only to protect its population. And after all, this can be done easier and cheaper - and any commander in the army is well aware that this requires only political will - and nothing more!

              The iron dome is a good thing, but as you know, sitting on the defensive cannot be seen much. An attack should follow the defense, and something should be glued with it. I would be glad to disagree with you, but you are absolutely right lately there is no political will on Gaza. Every time I return home after another operation, I feel like spat upon. Everything is in the army and people are ready to work and there is technology and work to give. Sadly request
        4. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 15: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: andj61
          And after the seizure of power in Gaza by Hamas militants, it resembles sponsoring terrorists ...

          And you will be right. These are the only terrorists sponsored by Israel.
    4. tilix
      tilix 8 November 2015 13: 21 New
      +1
      С водой в секторе газа -"труба":
      Israel desalinates its drinking water, who prevents the Arabs from desalinating it? It seems the same sea. And the Arabs have a lot of money.
      But it’s more important for them to buy weapons in order to kill another infidel. And accomplices to them all sorts of liberals of different varieties and stripes, they are children.
      1. opus
        opus 8 November 2015 13: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Hello
        It seems to be possible but for some reason continues to supply water and electricity and medicines.

        The UN continues to consider the Gaza Strip occupied by Israel, the US State Department (your opinion is important to him)
        The UN position
        In February 2008, Secretary-General Ban was asked at a media availability whether Gaza is occupied territory. "I am not in a position to say on these legal matters", he responded.
        The next day, at a press briefing, a reporter pointed out to a UN spokesman that the secretary-general had told Arab League representatives that Gaza was still considered occupied.
        "Yes, the UN defines Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem as Occupied Palestinian Territory. No, that definition hasn't changed ”, the spokesman replied.
        Farhan Haq, spokesman for the secretary-general, told CNN Monday that the official status of Gaza would change only through a decision of the UN Security Council.
        The US position
        [...] The US State Department Web site also includes Gaza when it discusses the "occupied" territories. State Department spokeswoman Amanda Harper referred CNN Monday to the department's Web site for any questions about the status of Gaza, and she noted that the Web site referred to the 2005 disengagement. When asked the department's position on whether Gaza is still occupied, Harper said she would look into it.

        =============================
        Well, worry about the occupied territory

        Quote: tilix
        Israel desalinates its drinking water, who prevents the Arabs from desalinating it?

        not all, but only part



        Arabs and desalinate (UAE, Saudi Arabia)
        In the gas sector, this is not possible, under 2 million refugees of rogue
        1. tilix
          tilix 8 November 2015 13: 39 New
          +2
          UN continues to count
          And are you telling me from Russia about the UN? Or the UN sucks only when anti-Russian resolutions are adopted
          gas sector it is not possible
          Why is it impossible? Digging is possible? Is it possible to launch rockets? Is it possible to blow up civilians?
          And about the equifer, your data is incorrect. There is a separate lens. In fact, there are several. And they just reused it, but because it is salted from the sea. With good rains, it desolonizes for several years.
          1. opus
            opus 8 November 2015 14: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: tilix
            And are you telling me from Russia about the UN?

            Из России, но ни чего не "рассказываю".
            This is a fact. And not only the UN, but the State Department of your friends.
            Quote: tilix
            when anti-Russian resolutions are adopted

            well, well.
            What are these anti-Russian UN resolutions?
            Acre UN 68/262 (Code: A / RES / 68/262) I do not know any.

            Threat on 68/262 24 UN member countries did not vote: Belize, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Republic of the Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Equatorial Guinea, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau, Iran, Israel, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Morocco, Oman, Serbia, Tajikistan, East Timor, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Yemen.

            UN General Assembly resolutions have recommendatory, unlike the UN Security Council.

            But r. from the UN Security Council mandatory :
            UN Security Council No. 478, resolutions 252 (1968), 267 (1969), 271 (1969), 298 (1971), 465 (1980) and 476 (1980), 242 from November 22 on November 1967, well, and so on ...
            You can wipe this piece of paper,

            if you want to listen to stories (
            Quote: tilix
            from Russia tell about the UN?
            )

            Quote: tilix
            Why is it impossible?

            technically.
            There are simply no areas.
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 8 November 2015 15: 06 New
              +2
              Why are you writing lies and being impudent or just showing yourself to those who do not understand what they are writing.
              Not all UN Security Council resolutions are binding. Moreover, not a single resolution regarding Israel is binding.

              For example, consider resolution 242
              Israel’s failure to comply with the requirements of the resolution is also facilitated by the fact that the decision of the UN Security Council is only advisory in nature, because it was made with reference to Chapter VI of the UN Charter “Peaceful Settlement of Disputes”. Article 36 of this chapter, paragraph 1, defines the terms of reference of the Security Council in its actions under this article:

              “The Security Council is authorized at any stage of the dispute, having the character specified in Article 33, or a situation of a similar nature, to recommend a proper procedure or methods of settlement.”

              Learn the mat part before you make people laugh bully
              1. opus
                opus 8 November 2015 15: 46 New
                +2
                Quote: Wiski
                Why are you writing lies and being impudent or just showing yourself to those

                Всегда "умилял" истошный визг "сынов израилевых"

                Check out:

                Quote: Wiski
                Learn the mat part before you make people laugh

                Silly foul phrase (usually used by illiterate people)

                DUTY OF RESOLUTIONS OF THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PRINCIPLE OF NON-INTERFERENCE IN THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF STATES
                it says here:


                Article 25 of the Charter of the United Nations states that all members of the United Nations "agree, in accordance with this Charter, obey and implement Security Council decisions". Information on how this provision was considered in the Council can be found in the “Handbook” (see “Functions and Powers”, article 25).

                chewed here:
                1. Wiski
                  Wiski 8 November 2015 16: 16 New
                  +1
                  Again, write ignorant stupidity.
                  I gave you an example regarding the resolution, but you again pull out from different places, but the essence does not change and I'm right.

                  The decision of the UN Security Council is not binding if it refers to Chapter VI of the UN Charter “Peaceful Settlement of Disputes”. Article 36 of this chapter, paragraph 1, defines the terms of reference of the Security Council in its actions under this article:

                  “The Security Council is authorized at any stage of the dispute, having the character specified in Article 33, or a situation of a similar nature, to recommend a proper procedure or methods of settlement.”

                  This is recognized by all lawyers, both Russian and any. Therefore, your attempt again past the checkout.

                  By the way, your right is shown at the bottom of your link - you shot yourself in the leg.




                  According to the UN Charter, the Security Council can make decisions (Articles 39, 41, 42) and recommendations (Articles 36, 39, 40). Security Council decisions are binding on States, while recommendations are not7. The recommendations can be considered as an expression of the opinion of an authoritative international body, as a prerequisite for the legitimacy of the state’s activities in accordance with the requirements of the resolution8, or even serve as a confirmation of the validity of the use of force in self-defense (resolution 83 (1950)) 9. The UN Charter does not fix specific sanctions for non-compliance with recommendations, however, the Council has the right to take into account the fact of non-compliance (Article 40).
            2. tilix
              tilix 8 November 2015 15: 39 New
              +1
              There are simply no areas.
              Насчот ООН вам <Wiski> ответил, а про нет площадей, чепухой болтать изволите. Есть достаточно, большой площади такие заводы не занимают, у нас три уже. Больше того, для такого дела, им Египет даст место.
              1. opus
                opus 8 November 2015 15: 52 New
                +3
                Quote: tilix
                Насчот ООН вам <Wiski> ответил,

                his answer is not even worth reading.
                Tk this is the stupidity of a narcissistic illiterate citizen of Israel.
                Quote: tilix
                There are enough such plants do not occupy a large area; we already have three.

                у меня "сорвалось" (исправить не успел).
                Not only squares (they are the same)



                Abu Dhabi Environmental Agency (EAD) is building 30 solar desalination plants in the emirate, and 20 of them have already been commissioned.
                Each plant produces about 1100 liters of pure water per hour, which is an average of 6600 liters per day

                but also power and financial. no them.

                "Осмос" им не дадут США

                Carlsbad Desalination Project, whose value is estimated at 1 billion US dollarswill help provide safe drinking water 300 thousand people in southern California.
                (what is 0,3 million? for gas)





                [img] http://carlsbaddesal.com/Websites/carlsbaddesal/PhotoGallery/3397880/projec
                t_aerial.jpg? 20907 [/ img]


                Quote: tilix
                we have three already

                If the State Department detached S. Gaza every year for $ 3-10 billion, then S. Gaza would have already had 5 of these probably (in alluvial, probably)

                Quote: tilix
                Moreover, for such a thing, Egypt will give them a place.

                не даст.Египет сам "отказался " от сектора Газа( ну Вы помните),они ему не нужны,своих баламутов хватает
                1. tilix
                  tilix 8 November 2015 16: 21 New
                  +3
                  Египет сам "отказался " от сектора Газа
                  Вы не представляете на каких дотациях ваши любимые "газане" сидят. Им бы эти деньги обратить в опреснители, так нет, они подкопы делают.
                  By the way, 300 million euros received by Abu Mazen for the construction of a desalination plant in Gaza. In 2011 year. And where is the money? And where is the desalination plant?

                  Do you also want from the State Department? How much did you (Russia) give to Syria? Billion dollars? And what, there are desalination plants? I tell you again, take the people of Gaza for their minds, and if they started to arrange their place, everyone would help. By the way, the Egyptians offered them a huge area in return for calming down, but no, they don’t want to. More important than the wrong to kill. What you do not understand yet, that you are also infidels, and it will reach you.
                  1. anti-Semite
                    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 16: 40 New
                    +1
                    in Syria there is a war of 4 years imposed from outside it is now not up to desalination plants, the survival of non-Sunni movements and Kurds is in question
                  2. opus
                    opus 8 November 2015 16: 59 New
                    +2
                    Quote: tilix
                    Вы не представляете на каких дотациях ваши любимые "газане" сидят.

                    1.Не "любимые" мной. Я арабов (а уж тем паче эту ветку)... ммм,скажем так мягко не "очень"/Какать рядом не сяду. точно.
                    2. What about? enlighten!
                    Quote: tilix
                    Do you also want from the State Department?

                    not. I don’t need anything from them. I hope the majority of the people of my homeland do the same.
                    Quote: tilix
                    And what, there are desalination plants?

                    А зачем им (сирийцам) "опреснители"?
                    Return:


                    резолюция № 497 Совета Безопасности ООН от 17 декабря 1981 г. (это вашему "умному" еврейскому мальчику с ником низкопробного пойла)

                    После "помощи" госдепа и Израиля,Сирия имеет это.

                    The same would be with desalination plants

                    1. opus
                      opus 8 November 2015 17: 03 New
                      +1
                      About
                      Quote: tilix
                      they are digging.
                      и "любимых" хочу заметить:
                      the so-called terrorism (
                      Quote: tilix
                      Is it possible to launch rockets? Is it possible to blow up civilians?
                      )
                      whose cow would mumble, and a Jewish one would rather be silent (on terrorism).
                      Irgun, Lehi,

                      Brit ha-kanaim, ha-mahteret ha-yehudit



                      (Sow the wind, reap the storm)

                      1948.04.09 Дейр-Ясин. Массовая резня евреями безоружного мирного арабского населения в Палестине. Отряд еврейских террористов из организации "Иргун" (начальник - future Prime Minister of Israel Menachem Begin)

                      cut out the entire population (253 killed), houses were blown up with dynamite, corpses were thrown into wells. The cruelty of the killers did not lag behind the Old Testament examples: pregnant women had their stomachs ripped open, children of all ages, starting from infants, were killed without exception.
                    2. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 17: 10 New
                      +1
                      So you would be silent, have you already calculated how many civilians in Chechnya were killed? In all wars we won’t get so much. Deir Yassin - so what? There was a war, and who didn’t hide, and I shot it was not my fault. Ask your military, about Chechnya, about Dagestan, about Afghanistan - if you have little information read artifor. Not yet. Whoever raises a weapon should not cry when he receives an answer.
                      Here's an example: On April 13, Arab paramilitary forces attacked a medical convoy at Hadassah Hospital on Mount Scopus [3]. As a result of the attack, seventy-nine Jews, mostly doctors and nurses, as well as one British soldier, were killed, including in the set fire to buses. This massacre was not condemned or mentioned by you.
                      So let your cow, if something of decency is left in it, is silent on this topic, especially since your numbers are incorrect.
                      The cruelty of the killers did not lag behind the Old Testament examples
                      What is your concern? Why did Grishka Otrepiy get killed? Yes, how cruel it is.
                    3. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 8 November 2015 17: 43 New
                      0
                      the Chechen part of Russia in Dagestan was not in Afghanistan; the legitimate government called us
                    4. opus
                      opus 8 November 2015 18: 11 New
                      +4
                      Quote: tilix
                      Have you already calculated how many civilians in Chechnya you killed?

                      How many?
                      Just do not need the data of the Human Rights Center "Memorial".
                      This is the same as Pssaku quote. or the old prostitute Nuland.
                      =============================
                      1.In 1992, the Chechen Republic lived aboutnumber of 1 million permanent residents.
                      2. According to minimal estimates, in March 2000, about 300 thousand people remained in all settlements of Chechnya. According to the registration held in August 2000 in connection with the election of a deputy to the State Duma of Chechnya, there were more than 400 thousand people over the age of 18 on its territory.
                      По данным московских властей, в Чечне проживает 573,9 тысячи человек, по данным паспортно-визовой службы МВД — 995,5 тысячи, по данным местных администраций - 1166,3 тысячи, согласно сведениям Датского Совета по беженцам—733,9 тысячи, по результатам учета Государственного комитета по статистике на начало 2002 года в республике проживало 574 тысячи человек.По данным экспертов(Чечня в "мирных" цифрах // Экономика и жизнь. Юг. —№22. -Ноябрь 2001. -С.12.; Численность и миграция населения Российской Федерации в 2001 году. - М: Госкомстат, 2002. -С.15.), в ноябре 2001 года в республике проживало 610 тысяч человек...
                      Cool, yeah?
                      Scary figures

                      -According to rough estimates, about 20 thousand people were executed in Chechnya for the 1990s
                      -The share of Russians in the population of the Chechen Republic decreased from 25,0% to 1,3%, or more than 30 times! The estimated Russian population in the region decreased during the 1990s by at least 280-300 thousand people. By the beginning of 1999, no more than 30-50 thousand Russians remained in Chechnya, and by 2001 there remained in the republic only 10 thousand Russians.


                      Count yourself

                      ===============================
                      Before the outbreak of hostilities in 1948, about 1 million 250 thousand Arabs lived in Palestine, of which 750 thousand Arabs lived in territories reserved for the Jewish state and territories reserved for the Arab state conquered by Israel during the war. During the War of Independence, about 600 thousand Arabs - residents of Palestine left their homes located in the territory defined, according to the UN resolution, for the Jewish state and part of the territory defined under the Arab state.

                      Israeli authorities refused to let refugees back to their places of residence after the war, and the land and real estate of refugees was confiscated by the state of Israel.
                      Al-Nakba

                      Remind you of your friends of the Lebanese Christian phalangists, Sabra and Shatila .. and the strange impotence of the IDF (not to occupy West Beirut, it was a potential, but to consider (and may be directly involved) the massacre)?
                    5. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 18: 22 New
                      +1
                      Just do not need the data of the Human Rights Center "Memorial".
                      Why not? Only him will be. Do you take Palestinian sources? So Memorial. I'll see it now.
                      Attention: According to the international organization Amnesty International (2007), up to 25 thousands of civilians died in the war (Second).
                      In the first: About 26 thousand people died during the year of hostilities, of which 2 thousand Russian troops and 10 — 15 thousand militants, the rest are civilians (that is, from 9 to 14 thousand).

                      600 Thousands of Arabs - Palestinians Left their Homes
                      Why did they run away? They listened to the Arab leadership who begged them to escape. Let the Arab leadership take care of them. Those who do not run away and succeed, we will take care of them. Instead, we received Jews from the same countries.

                      Remind you of your Lebanese Christian friends
                      You have a one-sided look, everyone cuts one another there, and when we stood up for the Lebanese Christians and practically saved them, did it hurt you?
                    6. opus
                      opus 8 November 2015 19: 08 New
                      +3
                      Quote: tilix
                      Why not? Only him will be. Do you take Palestinian sources?

                      1. Better take Pssaki or Nuland.
                      2. I do not take Palestinian sources.
                      3 (!) Be friends with arithmetic? *
                      just count. Figures cited.
                      The memorial is blown away.
                      Moreover, the number of refugees from Chechnya must be deducted (East and Europe)
                      С "мемориалом" цифры НУ НИ КАК НЕ СОЙДУТСЯ
                      Quote: tilix
                      Those who do not run away and succeed, we will take care of them. Instead, we received Jews from the same countries.

                      ага"заботитесь".
                      they took the Hebrew, the stump is clear, and for this they expelled the Arabs.
                      If you care so much about Chechnya, so ask Chechens.
                      Or compare Chechnya:

                      with the territories you occupied


                      Quote: tilix
                      You have a one-sided look

                      Not mine.
                      I’ve forgotten about Sabra and Shatila (I generally thought that Papa Assad got dirty there: well, that story is the upper / lower teeth of girls at school, etc.)
                      I just recently read a FRENCH book about this.
                      This is their look
                    7. tilix
                      tilix 8 November 2015 19: 19 New
                      +1
                      According to estimates of the Union of Committees of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia, official figures on human losses in the second Chechen war are underestimated at least twice (approximately the same as happened during the first Chechen campaign).

                      about refugees:

                      You already returned them, huh?
                    8. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 8 November 2015 19: 35 New
                      +2
                      The committee of soldiers' mothers is not the 16-year-old stsukuhi who are also members of the free friday and go to the American embassy for salaries?
                  3. Pimply
                    Pimply 8 November 2015 19: 30 New
                    +3
                    Quote: opus
                    Not mine.
                    I’ve forgotten about Sabra and Shatila (I generally thought that Papa Assad got dirty there: well, that story is the upper / lower teeth of girls at school, etc.)
                    I just recently read a FRENCH book about this.
                    This is their look

                    Ой, а можно я тоже в эту игру поиграю? На фотографиях - "блокадная" Газа







                    I can dig a few dozen photos of luxurious beaches and markets, rich multi-storey houses and villas, and much more.

                    As for Grozny, I can find modern photographs where there are still holes from bullets and shells on the houses - but I won’t. There, instead of a normal state, they decided to build a gangster-and received.

                    But I will add one thing: my friend there is engaged in the social rehabilitation of children, adolescents and youth. So the stories there are not too flattering if desired - mountains
                  4. opus
                    opus 9 November 2015 10: 55 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Ой, а можно я тоже в эту игру поиграю? На фотографиях - "блокадная" Газа

                    1.Yes please
                    2.A lot of such places? (after)



                    Quote: Pimply
                    As for Grozny, I can find modern photographs where there are still holes from bullets and shells on the houses - but I won’t.

                    Чего ж так ("не буду")?
                    Я Вам и в Питере "нарою" со следами.
                    Вы в Грозном, или в Чечене такие "наройте":

                    Quote: Pimply
                    There, instead of a normal state, they decided to build a gangster-and received it.

                    1. The same thing happened with Chechnya, only worse than SG
                    2. Doesn't SG seem to be Israeli?
                    На "Мармаре" - флагмане "Флотилии свободы", marching through the blockade of the Gaza Strip, - находятся около 600 человек. Именно это судно дало бой израильским "коммандос", застрелившим, по официальным данным, "более десяти" участников международного плавания.
                    Israel captured the humanitarian flotilla going to Gaza: 19 dead (VIDEO)

                    EU requires investigation, Israeli flags burned in Turkey
        2. tilix
          tilix 8 November 2015 17: 55 New
          +1
          Let's think about returning, only after the return of the Kuril Islands. So that they looked and knew what would happen in the event of a repeated attack.
          А зачем им (сирийцам) "опреснители"?
          And you do not know that in Syria the deepest deficiency of fresh water? Most came from Turkey, but alas, they built a series of dams that reduced by 60% the flow of fresh water to Syria.
          Некоторые обозреватели считают, что именно это послужило "курком" в развязке и усугублении сирийского внутреннего конфликта. Воды на простое поливное земледелие не осталось. Человек спустился с гор, ну и куда идти, воду выпили а сами далеко, и пошли в "кто ближе". Жить как то надоть.
        3. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 18: 12 New
          +2
          the Kuril Islands, an uninhabited island ridge, were discovered and mapped on the world map by Russian navigators and included in the Empire as a discoverer, Japan won them during the war 1905 later the USSR won them back from here, to whom should we give the Kuril Islands if the first person to step on was it Russian?
        4. Pimply
          Pimply 8 November 2015 19: 40 New
          0
          Quote: anti-Semite
          the Kuril Islands, an uninhabited island ridge, were discovered and mapped on the world map by Russian navigators and included in the Empire as a discoverer, Japan won them during the war 1905 later the USSR won them back from here, to whom should we give the Kuril Islands if the first person to step on was it Russian?

          Actually no

          The first information about the islands was obtained by the Japanese during an expedition to Hokkaido and Sakhalin in 1635. In 1644, following the results of the 1635 — 1637 expeditions. In Hokkaido, the first Japanese map of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands was compiled. Then, in 1643, the islands were examined by the Dutch, led by Martin Frieze. This expedition compiled more detailed maps and described the land.

          In Russia, the first mention of the Kuril Islands dates back to the 1646 year, when NI Kolobov spoke about the bearded secrets that inhabit the islands.

          For the first time, Russians entered the Kuril land in the 1711 year.
          The first delimitation of the possessions of Russia and Japan in the Kuril Islands was made in the Shimodsky treatise of 1855.

          In exchange for ownership of Sakhalin, Russia transferred all the Kuril Islands to Japan in 1875.

          This is if purely on the facts that you cited. There are many other points by which Russia has the right to claim these islands. But obviously not by right of the discoverer
        5. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 09 New
          0
          Are these disputes useless do the Japanese want islands? let them come and take
        6. Pimply
          Pimply 8 November 2015 20: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: anti-Semite
          Are these disputes useless do the Japanese want islands? let them come and take

          How menacing and courageous. Only here does not add knowledge
        7. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 28 New
          0
          the main thing is that the Kuril Islands are under our control
  • Pimply
    Pimply 8 November 2015 18: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: opus
    После "помощи" госдепа и Израиля,Сирия имеет это.

    Syria has this primarily because of the internal conflict that smoldered over the course of many decades, splashed out, as in the 1982 in Hama, and eventually spilled out into a wide, wide river. Were it not for the long-term dominance of one group (small) over another (in which there were more than 70 percent of the country's population), were there not total corruption and hopelessness, no Arab springs would work. And so - reality pokes the situation in the face. Civil war always begins with soil well-fertilized by hatred.
  • anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 19: 36 New
    +1
    But the Allavites did not spread rot to other religions and did not impose their own, as with the Sunites?
  • Pimply
    Pimply 8 November 2015 20: 03 New
    0
    Quote: anti-Semite
    But the Allavites did not spread rot to other religions and did not impose their own, as with the Sunites?

    Well, the Allawites were spreading the Sunnis, because during the years of the French administration they were willing to cooperate with it and, by the time of Syria’s independence, they were the backbone of the local army and administration, after which they would not let anyone in there for a long time.
  • anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 31 New
    +3
    and churches stood next to Shiite Sunni mosques, women walked bare-head dressed in dresses worked cafes and restaurants bars and movie theaters like the Saudis? Qatari? in the uae? You know a lot of Sunni countries where with respect to other religions and people of secular views?
  • Wiski
    Wiski 8 November 2015 16: 22 New
    +3
    The stupidity of a narcissistic, illiterate citizen of Israel.


    I just showed your stupidity.


    According to the UN Charter, the Security Council can make decisions (Articles 39, 41, 42) and recommendations (Articles 36, 39, 40). Decisions of the Security Council are binding on States, while recommendations are not. 7 The recommendations can be considered as an expression of the opinion of an authoritative international body, as a prerequisite for the legitimacy of the state’s activities in accordance with the requirements of the resolution8, or even serve as a confirmation of the validity of the use of force in self-defense (resolution 83 (1950)) 9. The UN Charter does not fix specific sanctions for non-compliance with recommendations, however, the Council has the right to take into account the fact of non-compliance (Article 40).


    So i was right
    All resolutions regarding Israel are advisory despite the fact that the UN Security Council has been adopted bully .
  • Pimply
    Pimply 8 November 2015 18: 26 New
    -1
    Quote: opus

    But r. from the UN Security Council:
    UN Security Council No. 478, resolutions 252 (1968), 267 (1969), 271 (1969), 298 (1971), 465 (1980) and 476 (1980), 242 from November 22 on November 1967, well, and so on ...

    You know what the UN is and what the UN Security Council is. The first is a club in the sandbox for the exchange of views, in which all recognize each other to one degree or another. And the UN Security Council is a group of the five strongest and most influential guys in the sandbox into which they regularly, for the sake of appearances, invite others to shout. But only they have the right to veto. Sometimes they make a joint statement. Which is called mandatory. Only here it is in fact not necessary. It can be ignored. And here the question arises - how strong and influential guys are ready to respond to the situation. Because, again, the UN is only an advisory body
    1. opus
      opus 8 November 2015 19: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Pimply
      You know what the UN is and what the UN Security Council is.

      It is a question or a statement?
      request

      I want to remind you that I did not start about the UN (GA or Security Council).
      Про резолюции ООН/Россию "испортил воздух" кто-то другой.

      1. Pimply
        Pimply 8 November 2015 19: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: opus
        It is a question or a statement?


        I want to remind you that I did not start about the UN (GA or Security Council).
        Про резолюции ООН/Россию "испортил воздух" кто-то другой.


        It was not you who started, but you continued, right?
        1. opus
          opus 8 November 2015 19: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          but you continued, right?

          I replied.
          (все же разница есть с "продолжил")
          Although you are right: this policy is not mine (there is nothing new about weapons / technology).
          + to you.
          I’d better go play in the tanks (good x3) hi
          1. Kaiten
            Kaiten 8 November 2015 19: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: opus
            I’d better go play in the tanks (good x3)

            Everyone has their own toys. My toys today:
          2. opus
            opus 9 November 2015 10: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: Kaiten
            My toys today:

            lucky.
            I have no access to similar ones (in fact).
            / I can only talk with an Algerian Navy officer about the PTV /
            Так вы получается Pakko (судя по фото и "работе" в вечернюю на заводе)?


            / Test partner " На последнем фото две новые Меркавы 5 (на переднем плане). Повышенной проходимости. Current guns removed."

            recourse
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 8 November 2015 20: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: opus
          I replied.
          (все же разница есть с "продолжил")
          Although you are right: this policy is not mine (there is nothing new about weapons / technology).
          + to you.
          I’d better go play in the tanks (good x3)

          Good luck good evening
  • Wiski
    Wiski 8 November 2015 15: 10 New
    +4
    Million dollar question.
    But first, a great revelation - Egypt has a border with the Gaza Strip, which Israel does not control.
    The question is, how can Israel occupy the Gaza Strip if Israel’s troops are not in Gaza and the Gaza Strip has a free border with Egypt and Egypt itself blocks the Gaza Strip due to terror?
    1. opus
      opus 8 November 2015 16: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Wiski
      But first, a great revelation - Egypt has a border with the Gaza Strip, which Israel does not control.
      The question is, how can Israel occupy the Gaza Strip?

      Stupid question. The same for $ 2 billion.
      Crimea borders with Ukraine, there is no land communication between Russia and Ukraine ...
      AS HIS
      Quote: Wiski
      may occupy
      Russia? belay

      Quote: Wiski
      and the Gaza Strip has a free border with Egypt and Egypt itself is blocking the Gaza Strip because of terror?


      As a result of the Arab-Israeli war of 1948-1949, which began after the decision of the UN and the subsequent formation of the state of Israel, an Arab state was not created, and from 1948 to 1967 the sector was under Egyptian control. According to the results of the Six Day War, from 1967 to 2005, the sector was under Israeli control. In accordance with the Oslo Accords (1993) signed between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Israel temporarily provides military control over the airspace of the Gaza Strip, some of its land borders (the rest are under Egyptian control) and territorial waters. As a result of the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) was formed on the basis of the West Bank and the sector.

      What is Egypt controlling there ...


      I don’t understand.
      The area around the cities of Arish, Rafah and Sheikh Zuweid on the border with Israel practically not controlled by the Egyptian authorities.



  • atalef
    atalef 8 November 2015 20: 32 New
    0
    Quote: opus
    The UN continues to consider the Gaza Strip occupied by Israel, the US State Department (your opinion is important to him)

    The State Department and the United Nations continue to consider Crimea, Ukraine.
    What now? Described in fear.?
    1. opus
      opus 9 November 2015 10: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: atalef
      The State Department and the United Nations continue to consider Crimea, Ukraine.

      I will remind you:
      1.Статья "Израиль поддерживает Аль-Каиду ("Publico.es", Испания)"
      2. The topic of water in the SG, the Nile River and its overlapping is discussed.
      Question: where does Crimea and Ukraine come from?
      -------------------
      I will express my (purely) opinion (if Crimea / Ukraine is for you, this topic is expensive):
      1.Если не произойдет(в чем сомневаюсь) развал "СССР№2"/3МВ и госдеп и ООН ,лет ч/з 5-7 лет будут считать Крым -частью РФ
      2. Jerusalem (East), the Golan Heights and other occupied territories will never be considered Israeli by anyone.
      And they will kick you out of there

      Quote: atalef
      What now? Described in fear.?

      If there is an obsessive phobia about enuresis, you need to turn to a varach
      yes
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 8 November 2015 07: 00 New
    27
    Israel - an artificially created state that does not have a right to land on which it exists - they were simply allowed to live there, now it is one of the largest aggressors in the Middle East, along with the states. Why was Israel created? To save the Jewish people from total annihilation. Gave them territory - live and rejoice. No, now it is one of the most aggressive countries in the world. I am not anti-Semite, but the Israeli policy towards Palestine (which had to share its territory) smells of genocide. We should remember our story and not make mistakes.
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          1. andj61
            andj61 8 November 2015 08: 48 New
            +9
            Quote: Babr
            Forgive him Alexander. He does not know what he is saying.

            Interesting thing: one violates the rules of the site, but they delete the post of another, which pays attention to this violation! what
            Your affairs are wonderful, moderators! request bully
            1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
              Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 09: 57 New
              +1
              Да? А думаете среди модераторов "НАШИХ" нет? Как бы ни так! За 22 года жизни на Колыме и в Магадане встретил ТРЁХ "НАШИХ"! ДВОИХ в научно-исследовательским институте и ОДНОГО в снабжении! Ну, и ещё один ежегодно летом прилетал в командировку из Питера (какой-то НИИ проблем Севера)! Так что не волнуйтесь!
    2. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 8 November 2015 08: 08 New
      19
      Quote: EvgNik
      Gave them territory - live and rejoice. No, now it is one of the most aggressive countries in the world. I am not anti-Semite, but the Israeli policy towards Palestine (which had to share its territory) smells of genocide. We should remember our story and not make mistakes.

      Here they are in relation to Palestine
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 8 November 2015 08: 27 New
        13
        Quote: vc 72019
        Here they are in relation to Palestine

        What I was talking about without even knowing about such a dynamics of land capture. One word - let the goat into the garden ...
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 08 New
          -21
          Nefig was a war unleashed against the young Israeli state.
          1. 0255
            0255 8 November 2015 10: 13 New
            11
            Quote: miru mir
            Nefig was a war unleashed against the young Israeli state.

            Nefig had genocide against Palestinian Arabs to arrange and evict them from the territories in which they lived.
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 8 November 2015 10: 39 New
              -8
              First, before writing the word genocide, at least find out what it is and don’t show your stupidity.

              Regarding the eviction, the current Palestinian leader, Abu Mazen, personally wrote
              (Filastin A-Thawra, March 1976): "The Arab armies forced the Palestinians to leave their homes."


              Арабский Верховный комитет (фактически руководящий орган палестинских арабов) силой или убеждением заставил арабов, живущих в Яффо, Иерусалиме, Хайфе и других городских центрах, покинуть свои дома «до тех пор, пока евреи не будут уничтожены». Лондонский еженедельник «Экономист» (2 октября 1948 года) писал: «Из 62 тысяч арабов, живших в Хайфе, осталось не более пяти-шести тысяч <…> Самыми мощными факторами (в бегстве) были декларации и воззвания, сделанные Верховным палестинско-арабским комитетом, призывавшие всех арабов Хайфы уйти из города и предупреждавшие, что те, кто останутся в Хайфе под властью евреев, будут считаться изменниками».
              Arab leaders and the Arab Liberation Army urged urban and rural Arab populations to evacuate in order to facilitate the success of the Arabs' attack and then take over Jewish homes.

              Khaled al-Azam, Syrian Prime Minister (memoirs, 1973): “We brought refugees to disaster, urging them to leave their homes.”
              Jordanian daily Palestine (February 19, 1949): "Arab states ... incited Palestinians to temporarily leave their homes so as not to interfere with the invasion of the Arab armies."
              Al-Ayyam daily newspaper (May 13, 2008): “The Arab Liberation Army told the Palestinians:“ Leave your homes and villages, and you will be back in a few days. If you leave them, then we will be able to fulfill our mission ... ""
              The writer Salah Jubran described the events in Haifa of that time (1962): “The high Arab command asked the population to leave the country for two weeks so as not to interfere with military operations. They told us: “The guns do not distinguish who is in front of them - Arabs or Jews. Leave the country for a few weeks and you will come back with a victory ... “I heard a Haganah speaker calling on the Arabs to stay and live in peace with the Jewish brothers. The late mayor of Haifa also requested the population to return to our homes. Histadrut, our union, distributed flyers urging Arabs to return. I still have such a leaflet. ”
          2. Rrrj
            Rrrj 8 November 2015 12: 02 New
            +5
            Quote: miru mir
            Nefig was a war unleashed against the young Israeli state.

            Wahahah - ohoho
            We take all the territories of the former under the Nazis - nefig attack was.
            L is the logic.
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 8 November 2015 12: 06 New
              -1
              Recall what sovereign territories of the Arabs at that time? What was the Arab state from which Israel took these territories?
      2. Wiski
        Wiski 8 November 2015 10: 32 New
        -6
        How much will this lying card go on the Internet - it's hard to say wassat

        This card is as deceitful as this article.

        The funny thing is that the map allegedly shows the land lost by the so-called Palestinians (Arabs). In fact, at that time they had no land at all. It was a mandated territory and nothing belonged to them.

        The left map is the usual forgery; in green, the whole territory is indicated in general where Jews allegedly did not live and attributed this territory to Arabs without any sense and right and taken from a pro-Palestinian propaganda site, including the desert and other territories where Arabs never lived .
        The author of this card has done great good to the anti-Semites - he distributed a fake card that naive people still believe.

        The second map seems to be correct, but this map is not relevant for the reason that it is a division map that the United Nations proposed to create a two-state. In fact, it only shows that the first card is bullshit, since before that no one had given anything to the Arabs

        Again, the second map shows the division of what the United Nations proposed and what the Arabs themselves rejected and decided to dump the Jews into the sea. Jews agreed to a division, but similar resolutions are valid only when both sides adopt a resolution. Arabs went to war and the resolution lost its force.
        1. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 14: 56 New
          +2
          that's just the UN decision that gave Israel the right to exist, sounded like 2 state for 2 peoples, is there a Jewish state where the Palestinian?
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 15: 30 New
            0
            The UN did not give Israel the right to exist. The UN recognized Israel as a state after Israel proclaimed itself. The UN can neither create a state nor give a right to exist.

            There is no Palestinian since the Arabs tried several times to destroy the Jews and Israel and did not accept the resolution. Yes, and the resolution was recommendatory.

            Moreover, why don’t you ask Egypt that you kept Gaza for 19 years or from Jordan, that you refused to claim Judea and Samaria only in my year 87.
            The neighboring Arab countries never believed that the Palestinians, who had been invented as a people in the early 60s, were supposed to. And only after they realized that Israel didn’t take by force they went the other way.
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 November 2015 16: 16 New
              +1
              Nasser offered to take Gaza and close the problem your horn rested, okay, they would have seized the territory, put things in order and lived in peace and you’re suffering and the Palestinians are suffering and a lot of money for the wind and terror
              1. Wiski
                Wiski 8 November 2015 17: 23 New
                +1
                Can you recall who signed the Oslo Accords, who supported Hamas, who rejoiced and welcomed that Israel had withdrawn troops from Gaza? Who rejoiced that there would be democratic elections in Gaza, and then Hamas seized power by force? RUSSIA.
                1. anti-Semite
                  anti-Semite 8 November 2015 17: 49 New
                  +1
                  Hasn't your Mossad created Hamas as a counterweight to Fathu? when Hamas seized the gas, Fatah asked for permission to transfer the security forces to restore order you banned! it’s you who created Hamas because it’s a convenient opponent and because with the help of this scarecrow you can drag any law
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 8 November 2015 19: 42 New
                    +2
                    Quote: anti-Semite
                    Hasn't your Mossad created Hamas as a counterweight to Fathu? when Hamas seized the gas, Fatah asked for permission to transfer the security forces to restore order you banned! it’s you who created Hamas because it’s a convenient opponent and because with the help of this scarecrow you can drag any law

                    No, actually. Hamas began as a purely charitable peace organization, therefore its activities were approved. But to create - of course you have a cool look at the reality of 8)
                    1. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 10 New
                      0
                      and yet when the fatah wanted to slam them you were against
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 8 November 2015 20: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: anti-Semite
                        and yet when the fatah wanted to slam them you were against
                        And detail? I'd like to listen to the history of the Middle East in your interpretation, here the further, the funnier
                      2. anti-Semite
                        anti-Semite 8 November 2015 20: 32 New
                        0
                        does Jacob Kedmi lie?
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 8 November 2015 18: 45 New
          -1
          Quote: anti-Semite
          that's just the UN decision that gave Israel the right to exist, sounded like 2 state for 2 peoples, is there a Jewish state where the Palestinian?

          Dear little friend, do you know that at the moment there is no single legal definition of the state. And the UN only strengthens the membership of a certain conditional entity in the UN - and that’s it. No more. The UN is an advisory body, an instrument of international diplomacy.
  • Sorokin
    Sorokin 8 November 2015 08: 24 New
    -2
    I agree with you. Well, the first Nazis.
  • andj61
    andj61 8 November 2015 08: 37 New
    12
    Quote: EvgNik
    Israel - an artificially created state that does not have the right to land on which it exists - they were simply allowed to live there, now it is one of the largest aggressors in the Middle East, along with the states.

    In fact, all states in the world are created on the basis of the will of a certain group of people, that is, ARTIFICially. Naturally, only children appear, and states, unfortunately, are not created. If you approach with such standards, then all the states in the BV, and in Africa, with the possible exception of Egypt and Ethiopia, were created according to the results of the collapse of the colonial system and did not exist before that. In the territory of the former British mandate of Palestine there are - one Jewish state - Israel, and almost two Arab states: Jordan and Palestine. All three of these states, as well as Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, KSA, etc. - certainly artificially created. In this region, Turkey and Egypt have a long history of existing ones. Of course, it is possible to consider the Arab caliphates that existed in the Middle Ages as the predecessors of Syria and Iraq, but Turkish and Anglo-French rule in the region completely breaks this continuity from five thousand years ago. Both Jews and Arabs lived together under the Turks - and for a very long time.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 8 November 2015 09: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: andj61
      In fact, all states in the world are created on the basis of the will of a certain group of people, that is, ARTIFICially.

      I agree, almost ... All states were created by the will of the people who created them. Israel was created by decision of the UN, and this is completely different. And without this decision, they would continue to wander around different countries and muddied the water there, which in fact they are doing now successfully living in their own, albeit artificial, homeland.
      1. Hello
        Hello 8 November 2015 09: 41 New
        -10
        Quote: EvgNik
        I agree, almost ... All states were created by the will of the people who created them. Israel was created by decision of the UN, and this is completely different. And without this decision, they would continue to wander around different countries and muddied the water there, which in fact they are doing now successfully living in their own, albeit artificial, homeland.

        The UN does not create a state; it only recognizes or does not recognize a fait accompli. I dare to say that Israel would have been created without a UN decision, all the prerequisites were there, but there would be more problems.
      2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 09: 58 New
        +4
        And the most offensive is that the USSR (on its own head) was the first to recognize this misunderstanding!
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 8 November 2015 10: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: andj61
      In fact, all states in the world are created on the basis of the will of a certain group of people, that is, ARTIFICially. Naturally, only children appear, and states, unfortunately, are not created. If you approach with such standards, then all the states in the BV, and in Africa, with the possible exception of Egypt and Ethiopia, were created according to the results of the collapse of the colonial system and did not exist before that. In the territory of the former British mandate of Palestine there are - one Jewish state - Israel, and almost two Arab states: Jordan and Palestine. All three of these states, as well as Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, KSA, etc. - certainly artificially created. In this region, Turkey and Egypt have a long history of existing ones. Of course, it is possible to consider the Arab caliphates that existed in the Middle Ages as the predecessors of Syria and Iraq, but Turkish and Anglo-French rule in the region completely breaks this continuity from five thousand years ago. Both Jews and Arabs lived together under the Turks - and for a very long time.

      Хороший, спокойный, культурный а самое главное грамотный комментарий, Уважаемый коллега. Но маловероятно что многие участники "схватки сионистов с патриотами" обратят на него внимание. laughing
      PS Andrey, I’m not joking about the literacy of your comment. hi
  • miru mir
    miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: EvgNik
    Gave them territory - live and rejoice.

    So they used to live in peace. You Arabs would instill peaceful initiative in your little brothers.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 8 November 2015 10: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: miru mir
      So they used to live in peace. You Arabs would instill peaceful initiative in your little brothers.

      And what about this? Just read the Babylonian Talmud
      4. Libbre David 37: "Сообщать гоям что нибудь о наших религиозных отношениях
      tantamount to killing all Jews, because if they knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly. "
      5. Libbre David 37: "Если еврею предоставят слово для объяснения какой либо части книги раввина, он должен давать только лживые объяснения. Тот,кто когда либо нарушит этот закон будет умервщлён." 6. Yebhamoth 11b: "Сексуальные сношения с девочкой разрешены если девочке есть 3 года."
      7. Schabouth Hag 6d: "Jews can make false promises for excuses."
      8. Hikkoth Akum X1: "Don't save the goyim in case of danger or death."
      9. Hikkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the goyim."
      10. Choschen Hamm 388,15: "If it can be proven that someone gave the money of the Israelites to the goyim, a way must be found to wipe it off the face of the earth after prudent compensation for damages."
      11. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew can have everything he finds if it belongs to Akum (goy). He who returns property (goyim) sins against the Law, increasing the power of offenders. However, it deserves praise if the lost property is returned to glory the name of God, that is, when Christians will praise the Jews and look at them as honest people. "

      Especially item number 11, so fair
      1. Hello
        Hello 8 November 2015 10: 20 New
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        And what about this? Just read the Babylonian Talmud

        Oh, vey, and I believe honestly honestly, but the Babylonian Talmud could not be written in Russian, did you apparently read it in Aramaic in the original? Give the link do not poison the soul.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 8 November 2015 10: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: Hello
          Oh, vey, and I believe honestly honestly, but the Babylonian Talmud could not be written in Russian, did you apparently read it in Aramaic in the original? Give the link do not poison the soul.

          I can give you a comment by a linguist, where he disputes this spelling and proves the origin years later than is presented in history.
          But I don’t see the point in this, so that I do not write a reaction I foresee in advance ............. and for the reaction Thank you of course! Now your comrades will do.
          1. Hello
            Hello 8 November 2015 10: 56 New
            -4
            Quote: APASUS
            I can give you a comment by a linguist, where he disputes this spelling and proves the origin years later than is presented in history.

            Let’s read if I challenge it. I hope the linguist uses the source? And then I would not want to stumble again on a scholar broadcasting about Jewish books from the words of an unknown translator.
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 50 New
        -5
        I’m all this mura-Talmud-Shmalmud, and other tales, I don’t bother my head. And I do not advise you hi
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 8 November 2015 07: 10 New
    +1
    There is no smoke without fire.
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 8 November 2015 07: 15 New
    -3
    Correctly Namedirek Smoke does not happen without fire. And the catechism, the line of serenity, the statements of the Russian Tsars.
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 8 November 2015 07: 26 New
    +6
    I will add. I have acquaintances from the Jews, and relatives of my acquaintances live in Israel. You will meet one - the dearest person, the soul of the company, but if several Jews gather, it is already either a sect or a Masonic lodge.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 8 November 2015 08: 16 New
      -6
      but if several Jews gather, this is either a sect or a Masonic lodge.


      Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia.
      1. Hello
        Hello 8 November 2015 08: 19 New
        -3
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia.

        Hello Maki, come on, let’s cut off Neil in Gaza wassat . And then the Spaniards tell us without the Nile and the Tigris with the Euphrates in any way. fellow
        1. andj61
          andj61 8 November 2015 08: 43 New
          +8
          Quote: Hello
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia.

          Hello Maki, come on, let’s cut off Neil in Gaza wassat . And then the Spaniards tell us without the Nile and the Tigris with the Euphrates in any way. fellow

          Why only Neil? Limpopo and Amazon decided to leave the Arabs? tongue
          1. Hello
            Hello 8 November 2015 08: 58 New
            +4
            Quote: andj61
            Why only Neil? Limpopo and Amazon decided to leave the Arabs?

            Не удивлюсь если какое нибудь"авторитетное" издание напишет что для доминирования над миром Израилю жизненно необходима Амазонка и Лимпопо, а так же напишут про высказывания какого нибудь первого секретаря царя Соломона чтов без Волги и Байкала третьего храма не построишь. И вообще все и так знают что евреи хотят все захватить зачем доказательства. wassat
            1. Eugene-Eugene
              Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 09: 44 New
              -5
              EvgNik did not differ intelligence and wit
              1. V.ic
                V.ic 8 November 2015 14: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: Eugene-Eugene
                mind and quick wits

                Лелик и Болик ч/з 50 лет лепшие друганы Сраиля. Правда, спасибо смоленской берёзке, одним "друганом" меньше стало, однако "шмоленгс-холокост" в чьей-т попе до сих пор свербит.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 06 New
          -6
          Quote: Hello
          And then the Spaniards tell us without the Nile and the Tigris with the Euphrates in any way.

          Taki when you grow wiser
          1. Hello
            Hello 8 November 2015 09: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Tusv
            Taki when you grow wiser

            What sadness are you?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: Hello
              What sadness are you?

              Natives live with you. Scary for them
              1. Hello
                Hello 8 November 2015 09: 25 New
                +2
                Quote: Tusv
                Natives live with you. Scary for them

                Life is a terrible thing. wink
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: Hello
                  Life is a terrible thing.

                  Well, this is clear to everyone. Inevitable Fatal Illness
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 8 November 2015 08: 30 New
        +9
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Beware of the Masson Lodges and Paranoia

        Wait, just pull the diapers. And paranoia is an occupational disease of all Jews.
      3. Dim Bes
        Dim Bes 8 November 2015 09: 13 New
        +2
        Оберегаться нужно от Вашего Синедриона в нашей думе и нашем правительстве (оба "заведения" с маленькой буквы). И есть еще некто чубайс, тоже, говорят, не чужой Вам. Это если по существу. А вот про Нил в Газе.. еще рабочую часть мозга слегка застопорило.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 8 November 2015 09: 03 New
      -7
      Quote: EvgNik
      You will meet one - the dearest person, the soul of the company, but if several Jews gather, it is already either a sect or a Masonic lodge.

      Old Estonian Joke
      - Look, these Russians are boiling a glass of fotka and they won’t get anything, but we have to go.
      If the Jews are the Masonic lodge, then who are we with our part of the world?
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 8 November 2015 09: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Tusv
        If the Jews are the Masonic lodge, then we with our part of the world who

        Well, let there not be a Masonic lodge, let there be a Jewish bank, or a conspiracy or something else, but I know that there is nothing good - an example is the country of Israel.
        1. atalef
          atalef 8 November 2015 09: 44 New
          0
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: Tusv
          If the Jews are the Masonic lodge, then we with our part of the world who

          Well, let there not be a Masonic lodge, let there be a Jewish bank, or a conspiracy or something else, but I know that there is nothing good - an example is the country of Israel.

          Bank or conspiracy laughing
          Some kind of innate inferiority complex
          1. Eugene-Eugene
            Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 09: 53 New
            +2
            Bank or conspiracy
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 8 November 2015 14: 16 New
              +1
              Quote: Eugene-Eugene
              or conspiracy

              "Станок" отличный! Только "заговор" надо бы снять!
          2. Tusv
            Tusv 8 November 2015 10: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Some kind of innate inferiority complex

            With the full value in Russia, everything is in order. In the nineties, a German came. We all swim, and he is in the middle of the meadow and how he will yell in Russian. Well, in general, it’s not possible here, but in the vast expanses of Russia this one word means the highest degree of delight and the found meaning of life
        2. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 8 November 2015 09: 48 New
          +1
          Yes, exhale you already!
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 51 New
            +1
            Wah! Pretty boy!!!
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 8 November 2015 14: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            and exhale you already!

            This is how much you need to take on such an exhaust? (1 g / mol = 23 liters) ...
  • andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 8 November 2015 07: 33 New
    +8
    For Israel, the state is quite happy with the chaos around it, since it is in a hostile environment. They know how to use the divide and conquer command in perfection. The people of Israel themselves are essentially a hostage to the situation, because no matter how they treat ordinary Jews, they don’t really need all these wars, because every ordinary person, not a ruler, dreams of an ordinary normal quiet life, in fact the people are hostage to the situation. Although of course I’m not going to whitewash the Jewish people, because what is happening around them is their part of the guilt. But I made conclusions based on many articles and books about Israel and the Jews.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 8 November 2015 07: 48 New
    11
    It’s no secret that the Israelis assisted the terrorists ... when, at the very beginning of the Syrian confrontation, they provided medical assistance in their hospitals to the militants who were hiding on their territory from the persecution of government troops, the weapons captured during the fighting were the same Israeli ... and these strange shelling, as ordered by the territory of Israel, but the answer for something always came from the Syrian troops.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 8 November 2015 07: 58 New
      -6
      Israelis assisted the terrorists ... when, at the very beginning of the Syrian confrontation, they provided medical assistance to militants in their hospitals

      I fundamentally disagree, I think they simply filled their hands in order to maintain their status as one of the best doctors. And how much material appears for transplantology.
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 8 November 2015 08: 08 New
        +5
        Well, yes, such as doctors without borders.
        Quote: nemec55
        Israelis assisted the terrorists ... when, at the very beginning of the Syrian confrontation, they provided medical assistance to militants in their hospitals

        I fundamentally disagree, I think they simply filled their hands in order to maintain their status as one of the best doctors. And how much material appears for transplantology.

        I think they just stuffed a hand

        But for this they can fill the face.
      2. Maksus
        Maksus 8 November 2015 10: 05 New
        0
        How can you write such nonsense? Israeli medicine is so far ahead of ours as your brain lags behind Einstein in development. And for transplantology - what do you know, have you seen enough movies?
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 8 November 2015 10: 44 New
          -3
          How can you write such nonsense? Israeli medicine is so far ahead of ours as your brain lags behind Einstein in development. And for transplantology - what do you know, have you seen enough movies?

          Have you written these three words for half a day in order to fart louder or so to knock on a tambourine and run around the fire? The media then realized that they were joking
          1. Maksus
            Maksus 8 November 2015 11: 58 New
            +2
            Yes, as I read the diarrhea, this is your verbal and wrote. Where does the half-day data come from?
        2. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 15: 04 New
          -1
          Einstein is a top paid clown whose task is to divert attention from Nikola Tesla? well, he still gave out the theory of relativity, though it was refuted but not the essence
          1. Maksus
            Maksus 8 November 2015 16: 08 New
            -1
            I haven’t heard such a thing yet - BRAVO - nomination is Nonsense OF THE YEAR !!! And what kind of theory of relativity did Einstein put forward?
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 November 2015 16: 45 New
              0
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Общая_теория_относительности hi
              1. Maksus
                Maksus 8 November 2015 17: 27 New
                0
                A special one?
      3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 10: 10 New
        +1
        Ну, прям "Шарли Эбдо" - те со смехом выставили карикатуру с ящиками человеческих конечностей жертв авиакатострофы над СИНАЕМ! Вот уж символично - над "землёй обетованной" СИОНИСТОВ!
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: Strashila
      It's no secret that the Israelis helped the terrorists ...

      Both!!! What are you informed. And from where does everyone know this? Of these anti-Israeli statues? Or did you personally drag terrorists with diplomas to Israeli hospitals?
  • samara-58
    samara-58 8 November 2015 07: 51 New
    0
    Survive at all costs - the Jewish principle in action! negative
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 8 November 2015 08: 08 New
      0
      Here I am talking about too
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 November 2015 08: 08 New
    +4
    This news is already a year old, Israel says, if the wounded is knocking, then we are treating him without asking who he is fighting for. Like they stand over the Arabs without supporting anyone.
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    2. Turkir
      Turkir 8 November 2015 08: 14 New
      +2
      In the photo, the wounded man is similar to Yarosh. what
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 8 November 2015 09: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Turkir
        In the photo, the wounded man is similar to Yarosh.

        So this is it. Bgyyy ...
        1. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 15: 06 New
          0
          so Natsik from the outskirts of Israel money fly for treatment doesn’t smell like money especially Waltsman and Kolomoisky
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 16: 52 New
            -1
            This is Natsik for you, and half the world - about 100 countries believe that you are such ... and they just do not.
            However, Russia itself has officially recognized the Ukrainian government and is pursuing a policy with it at all levels.
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 November 2015 17: 11 New
              +1
              against the good bats of the right sector of Kolomoisky and many others, I did not care about the world’s opinion, this world didn’t see the massacre in China, this world didn’t spit on the slaughter in Korea and Vietnam, this world supported Napoleon and was loyal to Hitler until the Soviet padded jacket turned neck of the Wehrmacht, the world can consider everything that wants me does not care
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  • V.ic
    V.ic 8 November 2015 08: 39 New
    +2
    Удивительно, но нашлось всё-таки независимое от представителей "народа избранного" издание. No pasarán!
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 10: 14 New
      -1
      WHERE!? WHAT IS THE EDITION !?
      IDENTIFY!
      THIS CANNOT BE !!!
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 8 November 2015 14: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        WHERE!? WHAT IS THE EDITION !?
        IDENTIFY!
        THIS CANNOT BE

        Excuse me, I ask you to pan, painted from the windows ...
        "Израиль поддерживает Аль-Каиду ("Publico.es", Испания)".
        Може ж був не зовсим жив, но ж опосля опохмеления, протеревши очи, знайшов что усё было так: Израиль поддерживает Аль-Каиду ("Publico.es", Испания).
  • 1536
    1536 8 November 2015 08: 42 New
    +1
    Golems saving the people are on the mind. Hitler taught nothing?
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 8 November 2015 08: 46 New
    0
    Many peoples have a genetic memory of them; Spain remembers.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 8 November 2015 08: 47 New
    +7
    He has connections everywhere -
    In stores and at the base.
    And what are our connections? -
    Detox only ...
    All the enemies were defeated long ago
    They overthrew all the kings
    It's a pity we forgot in a hurry
    Overthrow these Jews!
  • miru mir
    miru mir 8 November 2015 08: 48 New
    0
    I got to the phrase "Поражаешься цинизму израильского режима, который на практике осуществляет безжалостный геноцид безоружных палестинцев, включая детей." and threw-ordinary, sucked from the finger anti-Israeli propaganda.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 8 November 2015 08: 57 New
      +1
      From a graduate of secondary school No. 61, hello to a graduate of secondary school No. 9!
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Humpty
        From a graduate of secondary school No. 61, hello to a graduate of secondary school No. 9!

        Gip-gip !!!
    2. user1212
      user1212 8 November 2015 10: 18 New
      0
      Quote: miru mir
      common anti-Israeli propaganda sucked from a finger.

      We are used to it, and you have to go wink
    3. anti-Semite
      anti-Semite 8 November 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      the entire Israeli press is full of similar articles only about Russia, so it’s a sin for you to resent
    4. Pimply
      Pimply 8 November 2015 18: 59 New
      0
      Quote: miru mir
      Дошёл до фразы "Поражаешься цинизму израильского режима, который на практике осуществляет безжалостный геноцид безоружных палестинцев, включая детей." и бросил-обыкновенная, высосанная из пальца антиизраильская пропаганда.

      Well, what did you expect from one of the most left-wing Spanish newspapers
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 8 November 2015 09: 07 New
    +1
    Hmm, politicians brewed porridge in 47, deciding to give their own state to the Jews. Given that there are many dark and incomprehensible spots in the history of mankind, especially with the location of certain historical key events, the allocation of land for the country of Israel in the Arab territories does not look too smart . Which led to what we have now. The concepts of Israeli security are too eagerly and one-sidedly interpreted, which leads not only to the expansion of their own territory, but also to problems with their neighbors. Too much ambition. There is another country with such ambitions of exclusivity. So they hide their actions under the guise of bringing democracy to all corners of the world, regardless of whether those nations need it or not wink
    so it’s such a gift that Joseph Vissarionovich made to the world Jews, and they gave their land to uuuuu how far away and they do not create any problems for neighbors - the places were deaf lol
    They would give them land somewhere in the middle of the Sahara and there would be no problems in the Middle East repeat
    hi
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 8 November 2015 09: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Hmm, politicians brewed porridge in 47, deciding to give their own state to the Jews. Given that there are many dark and incomprehensible spots in the history of mankind, especially with the location of certain historical key events, the allocation of land for the country of Israel in the Arab territories does not look too smart . Which led to what we have now.

      In the 91st brewed so brewed. We decided to give statehood on Russian soil a whole pack of nationalists, including a number of nationalities that did not even exist in pre-revolutionary Russia. It doesn't look smart.
      Israel and their Moroccan and Algerian blood brothers (sometimes called Palestinians) are far away and have no relatives there. Let them understand their own.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 8 November 2015 10: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Humpty
        In the 91st brewed so brewed. We decided to give statehood on Russian soil a whole pack of nationalists, including a number of nationalities that did not even exist in pre-revolutionary Russia. It doesn't look smart.

        Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs wink Formally, the republics that type separated from the USSR, which led to its collapse, are separate states. LEGALLY !!! Therefore, to say that the type gave the nationalists free rein is very tense. Another thing is how these newly emerging countries took advantage of their freedom. After all, someone ruined the old grievances and rushed to the worst not without help from outside, but someone tried to preserve all the ties left from the Great Country! Yes, we had to drop formalism and accept the rules of the game, becoming an independent state. And to create already other ties based on at least some semblance of world law - there are all sorts of treaties, unions ...
        You can’t row all under one comb! hi
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 8 November 2015 10: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Rurikovich
          You can’t row all under one comb!

          It is impossible. Nothing, they grabbed me. This is surprising, but Russian is closer to me South Koreans than Belarusians. This is not ironic, but in fact the response.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 8 November 2015 09: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Rurikovich
      That would give them land somewhere in the middle of the Sahara

      And better in Antarctica. I am kidding that to earn more minuses from the Israelis. By the way, today I put only one minus to the children of Israel - for the most impudent comment, I understand - patriotism, and we have few of them on the site, but I tried to equalize the disadvantages set by them to the best of my ability.
      1. atalef
        atalef 8 November 2015 10: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: EvgNik
        I am kidding that to earn more minuses from the Israelis. By the way, today the children of Israel put only one minus

        Thank you, my dear father, how would you live without you?
        Another plus sign from me earned.

        Quote: EvgNik
        Wait just diapers pull

        Hope already pulled? you can describe with happiness wink
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 8 November 2015 18: 35 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Hope already pulled? you can describe with happiness

          Atalef, you used to get minuses from me, but don’t try today - today is your holiday, sit all day on one article and earn hard on the minus. God help you. And today I’m kind ... to the Jews, I’m not negative. I put only my advantages - I correct your unjustified malice. Specifically to you, visitors to VO, I have no complaints, as well as to the people of Israel. But to the country of Israel-is.
    3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 November 2015 10: 20 New
      +1
      So Joseph Vissarionovich proposed to send to the NEW LAND when the delegation came to ask for CRIMEA and KUBAN for their NEW state! Sorry I did not have time!
  • Nina Czerny
    Nina Czerny 8 November 2015 10: 04 New
    10
    А чему удивляться? Само государство Израиль было создано на территории Палестинского государства и, как кукушонок, вытолкало из гнезда само это государство. Теперь палестинцы живут без Родины в лагеряхбеженцев, а израильтяне все рассказывают о своей несчастной судьбе. А кого поддерживает Израиль на Украине? Тех же бандеровцев и фашистов, которые лечатся в израильских клиниках. Ни одного ребенка с юго-востока, уж не говоря о женщинах и стариках, пострадавших отукраинской армии, "благородные" евреи не лечат. И где постоянные требования от всех уважать страджания еврейского народа во время Второй Мировой войны? Почему то к фашисткой Украине это не относится.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 8 November 2015 10: 07 New
      +2
      Because in today's world money rules !!! wink
      1. atalef
        atalef 8 November 2015 10: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Rurikovich
        Because in today's world money rules !!! wink

        Well, the Rurik people were never poor.
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 8 November 2015 11: 00 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Well, the Rurik people were never poor.

          For that we have less exorbitant ambitions, we live peacefully with our neighbors, we are not trying to indicate to everyone around what is good for us and what is bad tongue wink hi
        2. shans2
          shans2 8 November 2015 12: 38 New
          0
          What does the Rurikovich have to do with it? and even the Romanovs?
    2. Hello
      Hello 8 November 2015 10: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      Why be surprised? The state of Israel itself was created on the territory of the Palestinian state and, like a cuckoo, this state itself pushed out of the nest.

      Seriously? Was it a Palestinian state? The British with the Ottomans at a loss.
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      And who does Israel support in Ukraine?

      No one
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      Ни одного ребенка с юго-востока, уж не говоря о женщинах и стариках, пострадавших отукраинской армии, "благородные" евреи не лечат

      I’ll tell you more, and children from western Ukraine, Israel does not treat, and children from Honduras, too.
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      The same Bandera and fascists who are being treated in Israeli clinics.

      Show at least one.
      Quote: Nina Cerny
      For some reason, this does not apply to fascist Ukraine.

      My God, does your country maintain relations with the fascist state and recognize the legitimate fascist president?
      1. anti-Semite
        anti-Semite 8 November 2015 15: 10 New
        0
        http://nnm.me/blogs/z7z2929/ranenyh-maydanovcev-budut-lechit-v-izraile/ ну например так
    3. 0255
      0255 8 November 2015 10: 33 New
      +9
      Quote: Nina Czerny
      Ни одного ребенка с юго-востока, уж не говоря о женщинах и стариках, пострадавших отукраинской армии, "благородные" евреи не лечат.

      Зато лечили "активистов" майдана, убивавших бойцов "Беркута". Которые, возможно, призывали "м*скалей и ж*дов на ножи", которые чтят как героев бандеровцев, которые убивали евреев в ВОВ am

      Jews, what do you do in Israel with those who threw Molotov cocktails at police or special forces?
      1. Wiski
        Wiski 8 November 2015 11: 33 New
        -9
        Proved to kill? Was the court? What an attempt to blame without evidence. Smacks of Russian propaganda stop
        1. Boris Zidkov
          Boris Zidkov 8 November 2015 11: 57 New
          +2
          Here it smells, but does not smell but it STinkS !!!!! your Jewish propaganda. But the people can’t be fooled!
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 12: 12 New
            -2
            It smacks of mine just those who shove the video for the purpose of propaganda. And propaganda is far from Jewish. Oh, how many peoples in world history there were deceived peoples .. Well, you continue to live in fantasies wassat
        2. 0255
          0255 8 November 2015 13: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: Wiski
          Proved to kill? Was the court? What an attempt to blame without evidence. Smacks of Russian propaganda stop

          Доказательств убийств "беркутовцев" полно на Youtube, и их оттуда удаляют. Смотрите сами:


          Are these videos also Russian propaganda?
          The atrocities of the UPA, which other * chat svidomye in the Second World War against the Jews, and not only in your opinion a lie?
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 13: 43 New
            0
            The one that’s on the video in the hospital, where does he kill on your video? Moreover, he is a doctor in general.
            1. 0255
              0255 8 November 2015 14: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: Wiski
              The one that’s on the video in the hospital, where does he kill on your video? Moreover, he is a doctor in general.

              И что с того что он врач? Я говорю о том, что реальных преступников с майдана или сирийских исламистов вы лечите. А "беркутовцев" много вылечили? Или пострадавших от ВСУ граждан ДНР и ЛНР?
              1. Wiski
                Wiski 8 November 2015 15: 01 New
                0
                These are just your thoughts and nothing more.
        3. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 15: 12 New
          +3
          Adolf Aloizovich Shikelgruber didn’t kill the Jews personally either, what next?
          1. Wiski
            Wiski 8 November 2015 15: 40 New
            +2
            And the fact that no one doubts his fault and it has been proved, and not all speculation, that they are trying to present as supposedly the truth.
            I just did not understand why you spent his Austrian surname Schiklgruber distorted her and middle name. Or are you still one of those who think that they are still underdeveloped, that they will mix up the Austrian surname with the Jewish one and that there are those who think that Hitler is Jewish? Well, this is no longer even funny.
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 November 2015 16: 23 New
              +2
              my nationality doesn’t care much for you if you see anti-Semitism in everything, the crime of the new regime in Ukraine is obvious but the political interests of your country will never allow you to recognize the Nazi nature of the Poroshenko regime
              1. Wiski
                Wiski 8 November 2015 16: 43 New
                0
                Complexes just with you. None of the adequate people cites the name of Adolf in this way, except in an attempt to do as I described above.
                Israel does not interfere in your showdown with Ukraine at all. Stop writing nonsense
                1. anti-Semite
                  anti-Semite 8 November 2015 17: 13 New
                  +2
                  yah? the loudest after reuniting with the Crimea howled in Ukraine and in Israel for you it's a direct personal tragedy crying
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 November 2015 10: 13 New
    +8
    Quote: miru mir
    Bgyyy ...

    Listen, a Kyrgyz Jew or a Jewish Kyrgyz, did not have time to appear on the site, but already rude to the fullest. At the same time, you still call for increasing your horizons. Can you first raise the culture of behavior in society?
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 8 November 2015 10: 57 New
      -8
      Hamly? It seems everything is decorous and cultural. Only if you have already begun to give away nationalities here, I’m Russian, who was born in Kyrgyzstan and lives in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 8 November 2015 11: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: miru mir
        I am Russian, born in Kyrgyzstan and living in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?

        Hasn't he emigrated from Putin’s regime?
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 8 November 2015 12: 18 New
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          Quote: Tusv
          Hasn't he emigrated from Putin’s regime?

          Rather, because in Russia it is difficult for a Russian to obtain citizenship. In Israel or Germany it’s sometimes easier.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 8 November 2015 12: 49 New
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            Quote: Humpty
            that in Russia it is difficult for a Russian to obtain citizenship. In Israel or Germany, sometimes easier

            Everyone has almost the same law. Five years or so. Israel has enough mother
            1. Humpty
              Humpty 8 November 2015 13: 11 New
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              Quote: Tusv
              Israel has enough mother

              For Russia, not enough entries in the Soviet birth certificate and someone else's passport - Russian, as well as father, mother and wife combined and the lack of nuances that discredit the biography.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 8 November 2015 16: 54 New
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                Quote: Humpty
                For Russia, not enough entries in the Soviet birth certificate and someone else's passport - Russian, as well as father

                Hello. Permanently resided until 1991 and for Crimea until March 18, 2014. Russian Passport without delay. Everyone else, if not Nobel laureate - five years. Bourgeois has the same thing.
                I have Mom Jewish - Israel, of course, without my comments today, I give citizenship for a month.
                As I understand it. Mossad won't even give me a tourist visa
                1. atalef
                  atalef 8 November 2015 20: 44 New
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                  Quote: Tusv
                  Hello. Permanently resided until 1991 and for Crimea until March 18, 2014. Russian Passport without delay. Everyone else, if not Nobel laureate - five years

                  Or Depardieu wink

                  Quote: Tusv
                  I have Mom Jewish - Israel, of course, without my comments today, I give citizenship for a month.

                  Month? And I always thought right at the airport belay
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 8 November 2015 14: 08 New
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            My wife’s relatives in the Penza region settled, at first. And I went there to look around. The attitude of the locals is never worse. And all the Russians from Central Asia, only chock called laughing The difference in mentality is huge. Well, on this basis, constant skirmishes. And the father-in-law was burned twice, the second time the house burned down along with the father-in-law. Such hospitable Russians at the beginning of the 90s lived there. Now then, I think, everything has settled down - all the same, more than one decade has passed.
            1. Russiamoy
              Russiamoy 8 November 2015 16: 14 New
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              bad luck. that about me is a bunch of opposite examples (from Chechnya, from Ukraine from Central Asia), rather neutral to those who came from the former Soviet Republics, especially to Russian repatriates. They helped all nationalities as much as they could. although at the expense of the difference in mentality you are right- Russians are strongly assimilated during a long stay away from their homeland
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 8 November 2015 22: 55 New
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                Assimilated, not quite true. For me, the Motherland-Kyrgyzstan.
        2. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 12: 43 New
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          Nobody heard about him in those years. hi
      2. Egevich
        Egevich 8 November 2015 12: 08 New
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        Hamly? It seems everything is decorous and cultural. Only if you have already begun to give away nationalities here, I’m Russian, who was born in Kyrgyzstan and lives in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?

        in other words, a man without a clan, without a tribe ...
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 14: 10 New
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          Quote: Egevich
          in other words, a man without a clan, without a tribe ...

          This is why you made such conclusions?
      3. Rrrj
        Rrrj 8 November 2015 12: 21 New
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        Quote: miru mir
        I am Russian, born in Kyrgyzstan and living in Israel. Am I clearly spelling out?

        Wahahah - ohoho
        And yours and ours - and everyone managed to lick the ass.
        Go chupachups still polizi.
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 8 November 2015 14: 13 New
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          Come on without insults, sickly. There is something to say in PM. On the topic of the article there is something-please-politely and correctly. And to pass on to personality, and even in tyrnetic, it doesn’t paint anyone.
        2. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 8 November 2015 15: 14 New
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          cosmopolitan)))) now it is clear why Stalin spread rot
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    2. Humpty
      Humpty 8 November 2015 13: 02 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      Listen, a Kyrgyz Jew or a Jewish Kyrgyz, did not have time to appear on the site, but already rude to the fullest. At the same time, you still call for increasing your horizons.

      Enumeration of the captain. By the way, note the photos of people (left and right) who have done much more good for Russia than many of the forum participants.
      The world knows one of them personally. As well as I am.
      1. andj61
        andj61 8 November 2015 13: 36 New