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Monument to soldiers of the 6 Company of the Pskov Airborne Division to be opened in St. Petersburg

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Today in the Nevsky district of St. Petersburg will open a monument to the soldiers of the 6 Company 2 Company 104 battalion of the paratrooper regiment of the 76 Pskov Airborne Division, reports TASS.


Sketch of a monument

In 2015, the 15 anniversary of the feat of warriors is celebrated under the Chechen village of Ulus-Kert, where the 84 man’s heads were laid.

“The monument, created by sculptor Nikolai Gordievsky and architect Natalia Tarasova, is a sculpture with a height of 11,5 meters, made of concrete with the addition of granite chips. On the facades of the monument are embossed images of orders, the names of the dead soldiers, the coat of arms and the motto of the Airborne Forces, ”the agency reports.

Earlier, the same authors created a monument to “Soldiers-Internationalists who died in Afghanistan in 1979-1989”. It is installed in the Frunze district of the city.

“In the 2000 year from February 29 to 1 in March, at the height of 776, near the Chechen village of Ulus-Kert, the last battle of the 6 Company of the 104 Guards Paratroopers Regiment was taking place. 90 paratroopers killed 84, including 13 officers. 15 dead are buried in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region. For this fight 21, the Pskov paratrooper is presented to the rank of Hero of Russia, 63-s servicemen were awarded the Order of Courage "- reminds edition.

Monuments to the heroes were also installed in Pskov and Moscow. And in the small homeland of Senior Lieutenant Alexander Kolgatin in Kamyshin, a festival of soldiers' songs is held annually. Immortalized the memory of the fighters in the Chechen Republic - in Grozny there is a street named "84-x Pskov paratroopers".
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  1. cniza
    cniza 7 November 2015 13: 38 New
    +71
    Eternal memory to the heroes and thank you for fulfilling your duty to the end, low bow.
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 7 November 2015 13: 40 New
      +45
      Good memory, guys!
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 7 November 2015 13: 47 New
        +40
        Thank you our defenders and a deep bow from all of us living now. Eternal memory to you!
      2. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 7 November 2015 13: 48 New
        +61
        Eternal memory to the guys .... We remember!
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 8 November 2015 08: 47 New
          +8
          Ah ma .. how much Russia-Mother of heroes has nurtured, but how many will feed more ..? Their exploits will live for centuries, while at least one Russian who remembers these exploits is alive!
      3. Arh
        Arh 7 November 2015 16: 05 New
        +34
        He told the children about the feat of 6 companies of the Pskov paratroopers, they are impressions, for life !!!
        1. holod19
          holod19 7 November 2015 18: 28 New
          +15
          Quote: Arh
          He told the children about the feat of 6 companies of the Pskov paratroopers, they are impressions, for life !!!

          Well done! I also told my son, now my son is serving in the army, and I think with dignity !!!!!!!
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 7 November 2015 17: 53 New
      +16
      Remember, mourn ....
      1. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 7 November 2015 19: 10 New
        +11
        Thanks to the parents who raised such guys, eternal glory to you who gave their lives for their homeland, you will forever remain in the memory of the people.
      2. meriem1
        meriem1 7 November 2015 20: 20 New
        +8
        Quote: Tor5
        Remember, mourn ....


        Glory to the guys! The Chechens told me ... Themselves ... How did the guys die there .... And it happens ((((
        Glory Airborne!
      3. igorka357
        igorka357 8 November 2015 08: 51 New
        +4
        Quietly quiet .. what sorrow ..? They grieve over the innocent victims! These same wars, the sons of the fatherland, laid their heads for the Motherland, having fulfilled their male duty to the motherland to the end! Such heroes are honored and remembered in goodness, and not mourned for them!
    3. paxil
      paxil 7 November 2015 21: 29 New
      +14
      Eternal memoryto our heroes
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 8 November 2015 09: 03 New
        +5
        Dirt, snow, blood and pain ... no rangers can stand this .. only Russian landing !!! Eternal honor and eternal memory!
      2. Lena Alena
        Lena Alena 9 November 2015 18: 32 New
        +2
        A lump in the throat ... From pride and pain ... Boys-Men.
  2. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 7 November 2015 13: 39 New
    +70
    The kingdom of heaven to the children ... Breast came to the defense of the Motherland!
    Bow to you to the ground.
    1. igordok
      igordok 7 November 2015 15: 30 New
      +27
      Quote: Vladimir
      Bow to you to the ground.


      Moscow

      Pskov
      1. zulus222
        zulus222 7 November 2015 17: 25 New
        +7
        still to put in such a formidable!
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 7 November 2015 19: 38 New
          +7
          still to put in such a formidable!


          Yeah. At least at the battlefield. But the question is different, nothing detracts from the heroism of the fighters, but I'm shocked by the fact:

          where 84 people laid their heads.


          Damn, for such losses of one battle, some should shoot themselves, or stand in front of the tribunal.
          1. mike_z
            mike_z 8 November 2015 12: 03 New
            +4
            Quote: Asadullah
            for such losses of one battle, some who must shoot themselves, or stand in front of the tribunal.


            Absolutely agree! The heroism of the guys is beyond discussion, but someone must answer for their death!
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 7 November 2015 18: 49 New
      +25
      Eternal memory to you and all those who fell with you Brother!
  3. AlexTires
    AlexTires 7 November 2015 13: 39 New
    +31
    The best monument to the fallen children is our Memory of them and their feat ...
  4. venaya
    venaya 7 November 2015 13: 41 New
    +24
    Thank you heroes. The memory of you helps us live and educate a new generation of fighters on your example. May the earth rest in peace.
  5. 79807420129
    79807420129 7 November 2015 13: 43 New
    +23
    A low bow to the guys at the cost of their life defending our Motherland, Eternal memory to them.
  6. marinier
    marinier 7 November 2015 13: 43 New
    +37
    Ve4naja pamiat geroiam!
    Pust zemlia budet etim rebitkam puxom !!
    Ved oni otdali samoe bescenoe 4to u nix est ZIZEN !!!
    Ja obrashays k RUSSISCHE NAROT, 4ti-te svoix geroes, ne zabivatix, eto blagodaria etim mu4enikam, i takim kak oni Vi RUSSLAND STROIT SVOI LAND. !!!!

    PS Svetloi pamita geroes, da ne zarastet tropka pamiat etim mu4enik vo ima
    RUSSLAND hi
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 7 November 2015 13: 49 New
      +8
      take a photo as a gift. To avatar hi
    2. von_Tilsit
      von_Tilsit 7 November 2015 22: 12 New
      0
      vielen dank, Bruder!)
      Bist du marinesoldat?
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 November 2015 13: 43 New
    +22
    The guys got to death! And they did not retreat, although the enemy was much more numerous, they became, and that’s all. That's exactly what any enemy is afraid of when meeting with the Russian army.
  8. GOgaRu
    GOgaRu 7 November 2015 13: 55 New
    -33
    Heroes in captivity. Again, no one covered his back.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 7 November 2015 14: 29 New
      +12
      A lot of people like you. In the back of the hitters.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 7 November 2015 20: 03 New
        -9
        A lot of people like you. In the back of the hitters.

        Nope, I’m just the truth-uterus right in the face. This is very unpleasant for many.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 7 November 2015 20: 54 New
          +4
          Nope, I’m just the truth-uterus right in the face. This is very unpleasant for many.

          Khazanov has a miniature about Brezhnev - "We will show them the naked jo ... Wow! .. And .. the hard truth!" How to present, however ... As one hero used to say - To the words "Hello, hunchback!" don't be offended, right? This is true! But, sometimes the truth looks like a naked jo ..., damn hard!
          1. GOgaRu
            GOgaRu 8 November 2015 09: 28 New
            -7
            As one hero used to say - To the words "Hello, hunchback!" don't be offended, right? This is true! But, sometimes the truth looks like a naked jo ..., damn hard!

            Well then tell him: "Hello, slender!" lol
      3. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 8 November 2015 10: 52 New
        -1
        A lot of people like you. In the back of the hitters.

        Our strange people live in the country: the commanders with large stars who left the company to perish at a height with superior enemy forces did not lose a single star, and I, for voicing it now, was immediately demoted from lieutenants to unknown who .
        Is that an undying slave darling? If you are a great boss, then no one will condemn you, even if you are a murderer and a traitor. And if you are just a visitor to the site, then you are immediately a vile person, beating in the back? Take on a lot of virtual general.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 8 November 2015 19: 13 New
          +5
          Yes, we are all virtual laughing we want to seem better than it really is, but Russians need to be respected only for their intentions (c) just add a little respect to the other and the people will reach for you, you look and they will not offend you with a rank!
        2. sailor roman
          sailor roman 10 November 2015 13: 12 New
          0
          I don’t like you, but in some respects “the commanders with large stars who left the company to death at a height with superior enemy forces did not lose a single star ...”
    2. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 7 November 2015 14: 37 New
      +15
      Heroes in captivity. Again, no one covered his back.

      We have Russians (not by nationality, but by spirit) Heroes in captivity do not happen! Therefore, they have always been on our earth and will be, all of our History rests on them. And while we remember them - we are strong, as soon as we begin to forget, we will only shout "Glory to the heroes!" And the louder you shout, the quieter the echo from the escaping "heroes"
      1. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 7 November 2015 19: 41 New
        -15
        We have Russians (not by nationality, but by spirit) Heroes in captivity do not happen! Therefore, they have always been on our earth and will be, all of our History rests on them. And while we remember them - we are strong, as soon as we begin to forget, we will only shout "Glory to the heroes!" And the louder you shout, the quieter the echo from the escaping "heroes"

        Yeah. Especially a lot of heroes were when they took Grozny on New Year's Eve. They only stopped the guys in the city and on the walkie-talkie: “Help, help!” And in response - silence. Yes, I spit such heroism!
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 7 November 2015 20: 01 New
          +11
          Yes, I spit such heroism!

          So no one suggests twirling ...

          Everyone chooses for themselves
          A woman, a religion, a road.
          Serve the devil or the prophet -
          Everyone chooses for himself. (C) hi
          1. GOgaRu
            GOgaRu 7 November 2015 20: 06 New
            -12
            Everyone chooses for themselves
            A woman, a religion, a road.
            Serve the devil or the prophet -
            Everyone chooses for himself. (C)

            Well, tell me, lover of literature, what kind of landing did you have ?!
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 7 November 2015 20: 25 New
              +6
              well, at that moment I didn’t agree with the choice, they had made it before when they chose whom to serve. something like that, a lover of cons
            2. igorka357
              igorka357 8 November 2015 09: 08 New
              +2
              They could retreat, they could surrender to much superior enemy forces to save their lives, but they preferred a heroic death to a shameful captivity!
              1. GOgaRu
                GOgaRu 8 November 2015 09: 35 New
                -4
                They could retreat, they could surrender to much superior enemy forces to save their lives, but they preferred a heroic death to a shameful captivity!

                It seems like half of the enthusiastic PATRIOTIC poets are here. You need to speak from the rostrum. The truss truth of life is much simpler: there was nowhere to retreat even once. And about the captivity, there were no fools at the height, they understood that the captivity would be five minutes, and then with a knife through the throat.
        2. GOgaRu
          GOgaRu 7 November 2015 20: 21 New
          -7
          Who doubts there is a documentary with stories of survivors. Search the internet. Everything is in detail there.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 7 November 2015 14: 50 New
      +19
      They did not think about it. They held on. They caused fire on themselves. They died. They won. Everlasting memory.
      1. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 8 November 2015 09: 46 New
        -5
        They did not think about it. They held on. They caused fire on themselves. They died. They won. Everlasting memory.

        Почитай хотя бы это на досуге-https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%83_%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%8
        1%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%8B_776
    4. Mr shrek
      Mr shrek 7 November 2015 16: 01 New
      +15
      Even knowing that no one would cover them, they survived and didn’t let the enemy exceed 20 times. At the cost of their lives they didn’t let them in. Therefore they are Heroes!
      1. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 7 November 2015 19: 49 New
        -10
        Even knowing that no one would cover them, they withstood and didn’t let in a 20-fold superior enemy

        How not to let? As far as I know, the members of the wounded managed to finish off. Ours came a few hours later.
        1. Mr shrek
          Mr shrek 7 November 2015 20: 41 New
          +6
          Yes, but they did not pass. That is what the command sought. And that’s exactly what the guys did, it’s not for you to blame them.
          They at the cost of life did not let the creatures into the open, where they had a chance to get lost.
          Uncle Vasya’s troops once again proved who they are!
          therefore Glory to the Airborne Forces!
          1. GOgaRu
            GOgaRu 8 November 2015 10: 17 New
            -7
            Yes, but they did not pass. That is what the command sought. And that’s exactly what the guys did, it’s not for you to blame them.
            They at the cost of life did not let the creatures into the open, where they had a chance to get lost.

            You take it wrong. That's just the point: there was no help, the company was killed and went to the Argun gorge. If this was sought by the "command", why then the "command" was not shot? There is a version that individual soldiers who are very fond of money gave a tip where you can go with the least losses. What I, knowing the Russians not by hearsay, do not rule out at all.
          2. cast iron
            cast iron 8 November 2015 11: 54 New
            -9
            You write nonsense. They destroyed the company and the militants went where they wanted. And not a single Russian general lost his epaulettes after this betrayal. 6 they betrayed the company and threw it to slaughter. There was no aviation or artillery. They didn’t help at all.
            1. Rimlianin
              Rimlianin 9 November 2015 19: 50 New
              +3
              How was it not artillery? And you do not know that most of the loss of spirits at that height was from our art. Fire?
    5. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 7 November 2015 21: 11 New
      +8
      Quote: GOgaRu
      Heroes in captivity.

      1. GOgaRu
        GOgaRu 8 November 2015 10: 38 New
        -10
        Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
        I want you to remember that not even one .... (censorship) has won a single war, dying for his country. The one who makes the other poor stupid wins ... (censorship) dies for his own.
        1. mike_z
          mike_z 8 November 2015 12: 18 New
          +14
          Quote: GOgaRu
          The one who forces others wins ...


          Mr. I. (as it is indicated on your profile) You are "catching minuses" not for the truth, but for the inability to separate the flies from cutlets, for not understanding the essence of military people. The fact that someone had to shoot himself for the deaths of children, but rather to be shot like a dog, no one doubts. But this does not detract from the feat of the 6th company fighters. They carried out the order! Dot. They are heroes! If you do not understand this, then your arguments about the essence of the war are worthless. You can’t blame the gun for killing someone, it’s iron, it kills a man. You can’t talk about the dead, that they died "for nothing" - this is sacrilege, they have fulfilled their duty. And the fact that the "operation" is still not appreciated according to merit is true, the execution for such a little ..
    6. would
      would 8 November 2015 00: 21 New
      +7
      Captive Heroes


      So this is the heroism of most heroes. Before them, without any demand or consent, regardless of their readiness or unpreparedness, extremely difficult and difficult circumstances simply arose, and they made a very, very difficult choice in their face.
    7. igorka357
      igorka357 8 November 2015 09: 06 New
      +7
      Could you retreat, but stood up dead to our feet .. got up to death, because this is the Russian landing ... and he does not back down!
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 8 November 2015 11: 56 New
        -3
        Where could they retreat from the mountain? Are you raving or something? I would at least read that one of the platoons was stupidly shot by companies when they rose to the heights with supplies.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 8 November 2015 17: 22 New
          +7
          Mountain? Well, what am I to argue with you? I read not once, and not books with newspapers and magazines, but the materials of the military prosecutor’s office, and I’ll say one more thing, I personally climbed this "mountain" and went down from this "mountain" eight times, moreover, from different directions, including the one where the survivors escaped, of course it’s not convenient, sometimes dangerous, but calm ... and in a critical situation I would have flown off this big hill easily and not forcibly, and would not even have noticed! But the landing left to execute the order, because it’s better for our airborne troops to die with honor than to live in disgrace! Want to continue the dispute, please ask in PM! You should not unsubscribe here anymore, the topic is sensitive!
          1. Kapralwdw
            Kapralwdw 10 November 2015 11: 44 New
            0
            I served in the landing and support what you said that if there is an order, the landing will fulfill it and will not back down !!!
    8. bazilio
      bazilio 9 November 2015 13: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: GOgaRu
      Heroes in captivity. Again, no one covered his back.

      What is it about this? They are still HEROES !!!
    9. bazilio
      bazilio 9 November 2015 13: 46 New
      0
      Quote: GOgaRu
      Heroes in captivity. Again, no one covered his back.

      What is it about this? They are still HEROES !!!
  9. Scooter_gto
    Scooter_gto 7 November 2015 14: 02 New
    +15
    Everlasting memory! Low bow!
  10. dr.star75
    dr.star75 7 November 2015 14: 21 New
    +10
    I propose to make their feat a memorable day on the calendar, I remind you, they laid down their lives for their homeland, when patriotism was not even voiced.
  11. guest arbeiter
    guest arbeiter 7 November 2015 14: 22 New
    -32
    30 minutes ago I met a couple from the Crimea, exactly at the place of the duel. We talked ...
    They say that Russia was represented by another, something like Manhattan. To the question: Is Crimea our?
    The answer is we are Russian!
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 7 November 2015 14: 42 New
      +8
      The uncle in Kiev at the candy factory makes money with shoe polish - it’s understandable ... but where is the elder from the garden ?? belay
    2. marinier
      marinier 7 November 2015 15: 47 New
      +12
      Privetstvuy,
      sojaley, 4to ne mogu peresilit seba i nazvat vas g-om, pozelat
      dobrogo dnja, pozdravit s VELIKIM Prazdnikom!
      Pred4uvstuy vASHE negodovani na moi koment po povodu, vashego
      paskvilia.
      Naslajdaites dermo-kratiej (ved vI tak serdeshni me4taete o nej stop ).
      Vidno vashi semeinij para, berega poputal!
      Smey vzjat na sebe smelost ukazat im i zaodno vAM i vAM PODOBNIM, 4to deze land svobodnix i mujestveni LYDEJ.
      A LAND rABOV, I klientov na 30 serebrenik v druguy storonu.
      4erez atlantik pomoika na gudzon panel k KOP4ENIJ-LYCIFER.

      PS vot tak i dishi en relax eto-ze tvoia dermo-kratija.

      4ESTI Votli4ie ot vAS iMEY I PREZIRAJ.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 7 November 2015 16: 12 New
        +17
        Anthony don’t bother yourself, such people still won’t understand and you’ll waste time, it’s useless for people to explain something, their god the money flowing into their pocket, for them the word Homeland is an empty phrase and these guys who got in the way of these scumbags and almost everyone died, because they died for them too, they don’t understand this, such people believe that they owe everything to them, and they don’t know the responsibilities and don’t want to know. With respect to you. hi
        1. cast iron
          cast iron 8 November 2015 12: 00 New
          -9
          The guys were stupidly thrown at the height of some of the automatics having forgiven 1000 Islamofascists. And not a single general lost his epaulettes. And the surviving guys then spread rot on TV - they say, almost deserters. And now, fairy tales like you tell us about patriotism and heroism to the glory of the oligarchs Potanins, Deripasok, Prokhorovs and other ghouls.
    3. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 7 November 2015 20: 02 New
      0
      "Censor"?
  12. Turkir
    Turkir 7 November 2015 14: 28 New
    +15
    Real heroes. The personification of the Russian Spirit.
    Everlasting memory.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 November 2015 17: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Turkir
      Real heroes. The personification of the Russian Spirit.
      Everlasting memory.

      Namely Russian?
      Guard Private Ambetov Nikolay Kamitovich, senior shooter 6 pdr. Born on January 20, 1981. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
      Guard Senior Sergeant Aranson Andrey Vladimirovich, gunner-operator 6 Born in the city of Sevastopol on June 30, 1976. He was buried in the city of Sevastopol. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
      Guard Private Kuatbaev Galim Mukhambetgalievich, gunner-operator 6 pdr. Born in the city of Astrakhan on May 26, 1981. . He was buried in the city of Astrakhan. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
      Guard corporal Gerdt Alexander Alexandrovich, senior shooter 6 pdr. Born in the city of Ordzhonikidze, Kazakhstan, February 11, 1981. . Posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation.

      Then what did these Kazakhs and Jews do there?
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      2. Babr
        Babr 7 November 2015 18: 03 New
        +26
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Namely Russian?

        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Then what did these Kazakhs and Jews do there?

        Aron, you probably won’t understand this.
        The Kazakhs fraternized, and the Jews disappeared into the people that sheltered them (but those who were there). And it was one whole.
      3. I am Russian
        I am Russian 7 November 2015 18: 51 New
        +13
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Turkir
        Real heroes. The personification of the Russian Spirit.
        Everlasting memory.

        Namely Russian?
        Guard Private Ambetov Nikolay Kamitovich, senior shooter 6 pdr. Born on January 20, 1981. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
        Guard Senior Sergeant Aranson Andrey Vladimirovich, gunner-operator 6 Born in the city of Sevastopol on June 30, 1976. He was buried in the city of Sevastopol. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
        Guard Private Kuatbaev Galim Mukhambetgalievich, gunner-operator 6 pdr. Born in the city of Astrakhan on May 26, 1981. . He was buried in the city of Astrakhan. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
        Guard corporal Gerdt Alexander Alexandrovich, senior shooter 6 pdr. Born in the city of Ordzhonikidze, Kazakhstan, February 11, 1981. . Posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation.

        Then what did these Kazakhs and Jews do there?



        Kazakhstan - until 1936 was Kazakhstan, i.e. Cossack camp. In February 1936, the Decree of the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the Kazak SSR "On Russian pronunciation and the written designation of the word" Cossack "said that the last letter" k "is replaced by the letter" x ". In accordance with this, it was necessary to write on “Cossack” and not “Kazakstan”, but “Kazakh” and “Kazakhstan”. And that the present-day Kazakhstan includes the lands of Siberian, Orenburg and Ural Cossacks.

        Until 1936, not only the Kazakhstan state did not exist in the world, but there were no Kazakhs as a nation in general. There was a general concept - the Kyrgyz. This is the name of the hordes of nomads from the Caspian to Altai. Among these hordes there was one genus called “Kazakh,” wandering between the Zaisan and Alakol lakes at the very borders of China. And then suddenly this unknown genus turns into a national republic with a territory ten times greater than the territory of the “titular” Kyrgyz nation and the second after Russia. On the borders of the Wild Field (the geographical name rooted behind the Cossack steppe in the XNUMXth century), the Urals Cossack army stood in the west, the Orenburg and Siberian troops in the north, and the Semirechensky army in the east. Cossack troops vigilantly guarded their lands from uninvited guests. Hundreds of Cossack patrols went into the steppe for weeks and as soon as the vagabonds with their herds appeared in Russian territory, they drove them with their whips all the way to the Aral and Balkhash.
        1. Babr
          Babr 7 November 2015 19: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: I-Russian
          I am Russian

          Informative. It is impossible to grasp the immensity. But if you want to .... hi
          1. I am Russian
            I am Russian 7 November 2015 22: 16 New
            +2
            Welcome hi
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        2. GOgaRu
          GOgaRu 7 November 2015 20: 18 New
          -13
          Kazakhstan - until 1936 was Kazakhstan, i.e. Cossack camp. In February 1936, the Decree of the Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the Kazak SSR "On Russian pronunciation and the written designation of the word" Cossack "said that the last letter" k "is replaced by the letter" x ". In accordance with this, it was necessary to write on “Cossack” and not “Kazakstan”, but “Kazakh” and “Kazakhstan”. And that the present-day Kazakhstan includes the lands of Siberian, Orenburg and Ural Cossacks.

          There was such a Kievan Rus. Maybe I heard? Are we all Ukrainians now ?! laughing
          1. I am Russian
            I am Russian 7 November 2015 20: 28 New
            +9
            But nothing that Russia ?? what
            The film "Oleg the Prophet. Gained Real Estate" was released. I advise you to get knowledge, so as not to write nonsense.
            Before the October Revolution of 1917, the Ukrainian people did not exist in the Russian Empire, not to mention the country of Ukraine. hi
            1. BLACK-SHARK-64
              BLACK-SHARK-64 9 November 2015 13: 36 New
              0
              And there were no Ukrainians .... am
          2. I am Russian
            I am Russian 7 November 2015 20: 34 New
            +4
            GOgaRu
            There was such a Kievan Rus. Maybe I heard? Are we all Ukrainians now ?! laughing


            It depends on your strength of mind and tribal memory. In the event that you are completely recorded in Ukrainians. wassat lol
          3. cast iron
            cast iron 8 November 2015 12: 02 New
            +1
            There has never been any “Kievan Rus." This term is new to modern historians. Read books.
        3. BLACK-SHARK-64
          BLACK-SHARK-64 9 November 2015 13: 35 New
          0
          1000% accuracy angry
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      5. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 7 November 2015 19: 09 New
        +8
        Russian is much more than just ethnicity.
        1. Babr
          Babr 7 November 2015 20: 00 New
          0
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          Russian is much more than just ethnicity.

          But this is a union around an ethnic group. Or am I wrong?
          1. would
            would 8 November 2015 00: 03 New
            +4
            This is a complex and largely philosophical question. What ethnos around? What is considered an ethnic group in the context of a nation? Even if we take Russians of precisely East Slavic origin, they are genetically and phenotypically divided into southern, northern, and central ones due to relatively large differences. Are they now 3 different ethnic groups? So it’s clearly impossible to distinguish ethnic groups genetically and by phenotype. Similar to the ancestors? But after all, ancestors are also a bunch of different nationalities, which turned out as a result of wars as well. And further thoughts will be the same. This is one of the reasons that nationalist movements are so different in ideology, everywhere the terms "nation" and "nationality" are interpreted differently.

            In my humble opinion, a nation is a nation united primarily by one self-identification. Next comes the language proximity, cultural, territory of residence, etc. But in my opinion, self-identification is first and foremost. It is thanks to her that individual people consider themselves to be one people.

            As a result of historical events, some nations are as much as possible mono-ethnic, and some as Russians are multi-ethnic. Whose poet is Pushkin? Russian! Nicholas 2 whose emperor? Russian! Etc. In the Russian nation, ethnicity, due to the historical mixing of different nationalities, has ceased to have serious significance. And not only among the Russians, but also among the Slavs as such. At one time there were whole associations of Slavic nationalities whose purpose was the creation of one state or interstate bloc between all Slavic peoples, because they are not separate nationalities, but one Slavic people. If history turned in a different way, then more than likely such a nation as Russians would not exist, but simply Slavs living in one state and speaking the same language.
            1. Babr
              Babr 8 November 2015 03: 09 New
              0
              Quote: rait
              . Whose poet is Pushkin? Russian! Nicholas 2 whose emperor? Russian!

              It is said from today's position. You need to unravel a tangled tangle called history, and then everything will fall into place. After all, many streams flow into the river, and there is only one source. hi
              1. would
                would 8 November 2015 07: 21 New
                +1
                It is said from today's position.


                Pushkin and Nicholas 2 and then considered Russian.
                1. Babr
                  Babr 8 November 2015 16: 21 New
                  0
                  The argument is pointless. We do not understand each other.
                  . After all, many streams flow into the river, and there is only one source.
                  Explore the brooks, then you can continue hi
        2. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 7 November 2015 20: 40 New
          +1
          Russian is not a nationality, this is a diagnosis smile Just the case when the diagnosis can be proud! Here the film began to show about Catherine - is she Russian or not? What about Pushkin? How Russian is he? Therefore, Russian is most likely a state of mind
        3. GOgaRu
          GOgaRu 8 November 2015 10: 25 New
          -10
          Russian is much more than just ethnicity.

          I know. All classy are Russians (even blacks with a Russian passport), all bespontovye and slop are not Russian.
      6. almost demobil
        almost demobil 8 November 2015 05: 06 New
        +7
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Namely Russian?
        Guard Private Ambetov Nikolay Kamitovich, senior shooter 6 pdr. Born on January 20, 1981. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
        Guard Senior Sergeant Aranson Andrey Vladimirovich, gunner-operator 6 Born in the city of Sevastopol on June 30, 1976. He was buried in the city of Sevastopol. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
        Guard Private Kuatbaev Galim Mukhambetgalievich, gunner-operator 6 pdr. Born in the city of Astrakhan on May 26, 1981. . He was buried in the city of Astrakhan. Posthumously awarded the Order of Courage.
        Guard corporal Gerdt Alexander Alexandrovich, senior shooter 6 pdr. Born in the city of Ordzhonikidze, Kazakhstan, February 11, 1981. . Posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation.
        Then what did these Kazakhs and Jews do there?

        Russian is not who, but WHAT.
      7. would
        would 8 November 2015 07: 25 New
        +1
        It’s just that in Israel I’m not afraid of this word an ethno-nationalist state where Jewry defines blood and strictly along the female line. And in Russia, blood and origin as such is not so serious, and that is why these Kazakhs and Jews are Russian. It’s just that you have apparently beguiled the state ...
        1. BLACK-SHARK-64
          BLACK-SHARK-64 9 November 2015 13: 42 New
          +1
          and if a Jewess fell under the emperor, then the next emperor was already a Jew .... !!!!!!!! bully
      8. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 9 November 2015 13: 32 New
        0
        They defended their homeland, kkozell ... So they are RUSSIAN ..... am
  13. shooter18
    shooter18 7 November 2015 14: 31 New
    +12
    90 people held back 1500 militants !! this is not written
  14. tuts
    tuts 7 November 2015 14: 37 New
    +10
    We must remember our heroes. Thank you so much
  15. Romeohihnic
    Romeohihnic 7 November 2015 14: 40 New
    +14
    I read a lot about this, listened, watched. Everlasting memory
    1. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 7 November 2015 16: 07 New
      +11
      The greatness of the act is the Russian spirit!
      As pathetic as it sounds, the heroism of the soldiers is the result of the mistakes of the generals.
      1. Private Starley
        Private Starley 7 November 2015 17: 44 New
        +8
        You know, not even mistakes, but the direct betrayal of some of the highest ranks of the state in the early 90s ... And I also remember Kursk, where the sailors did everything as they should, according to the Charter, and did not save their jo..y, like the Americans .. And many of our people who wear epaulettes are more likely to act according to their conscience ... In Kazakhstan, like in a city a water pipe with hot water broke, a car with an old driver went underground, and a policeman passed by, rushed to the rescue , scalded all, and pulled out the old man ...
      2. Rivares
        Rivares 7 November 2015 17: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: SibSlavRus
        As pathetic as it sounds, but the heroism of the soldiers is the result of the mistakes of the generals

        That is, the greatest generals of mediocre soldiers? And stubborn soldiers are always stupid generals ?!
        The classic logic flaw. From the point of view of me as a soldier, the failure in attack (defense) rests entirely with the general (that is, it’s not my fault that I didn’t turn on my head in classes and exercises, that I left the position because I didn’t want to risk it with my skin). As a result, the soldiers blame the generals, the generals the soldiers, and the enemy has both of them))))
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 7 November 2015 20: 01 New
          +2
          The classic logic flaw.


          You know, a good commander does not need advertising, as well as sophistry of excuses. It is simply appreciated by deeds. In classes and exercises, you are taught applied knowledge, and the practice of military operations is to include your head. As soon as this head had time to turn on before the lethal effect, the commander was appointed. Soldiers knock say, soldiers obey the order. Anyone who does not obey the order, goes to the tribunal, who issued the criminal order, drinks cognac under the caviar and writes representations to himself, not answering for anything. Neither before the state, nor before conscience. If only before the Last Judgment, where those who executed his orders and now patiently wait in heaven will testify, his demise from what cirrhosis.
          1. Rivares
            Rivares 7 November 2015 22: 44 New
            0
            Quote: Asadullah
            As soon as this head had time to turn on before the lethal effect, the commander was appointed. Soldiers knock say, soldiers obey the order. Anyone who does not obey the order goes to the tribunal that issued the criminal order, drinks cognac under the caviar and writes representations to himself, not answering for anything

            I did not understand you. This is what you wrote directly to? Unfortunately, your idea did not understand. And a commander with a knife switch cannot be assigned to every soldier.
            Heroism A soldier manifests itself in various cases, and blaming everything on the generals is idiocy. By your logic, the heroism of the soldiers during the assault on the Devil’s Bridge is the result of Suvorov’s “mistake” ?!
        2. GOgaRu
          GOgaRu 8 November 2015 10: 36 New
          -4
          That is, the greatest generals of mediocre soldiers? And stubborn soldiers are always stupid generals ?!

          So you read and did not understand a damn thing, and already you begin to talk about logic.
        3. cast iron
          cast iron 8 November 2015 12: 29 New
          -2
          How lovely! Those. that the soldiers themselves were to blame for the company being thrown against 1000 militants? Well there, the position was changed incorrectly, etc.? A logic flaw is with you.
      3. Asadullah
        Asadullah 7 November 2015 19: 51 New
        +3
        As pathetic as it sounds, the heroism of the soldiers is the result of the mistakes of the generals.


        That's it. There is no pathos, the question is not the mistakes of the generals, the question criminal mistakes of generals. Each war gives birth to heroes and lamp-freaks without conscience. When Ensha turns his head, how to comply with the instructions of the General Staff without fulfilling the fact that the commanders spit on the stars, saving the lives of their fighters. You start to think seriously. why during b \ d they do not shoot for stupidity and stupidity.
      4. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 7 November 2015 23: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: SibSlavRus
        The greatness of the act is the Russian spirit!
        As pathetic as it sounds, the heroism of the soldiers is the result of the mistakes of the generals.

        Forgive me, but not always. An example of this is the capture of Ishmael by the young Kutuzov. The exploits of Suvorov would not have been possible without the heroism of Russian soldiers. Russian spirit - IS! After the service, I often dream of war. I wake up, and silence, and there is no burning tank. And I do not even immediately realize in what parallel world this war is still going on. Sometimes I dream that I go through the scorched cities of Russia, after a nuclear attack. Terrible dreams - but in them both Russia and the Russians conquer and live.
        Glory to the Great Spirit of Russia!
      5. Turkir
        Turkir 7 November 2015 23: 56 New
        +1
        As pathetic as it sounds, the heroism of the soldiers is the result of the mistakes of the generals.

        Following your logic, all our heroes are victims of the mistakes of the generals.
        Kornilov, Nakhimov, Ushakov, Suvorov ...
        Did their soldiers not show heroism because their generals did not make mistakes?
        ---------
        You learn a lot of interesting things on TopWar ..
        As soon as a heart attack is not received, from pathos.
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  17. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 7 November 2015 14: 41 New
    +8
    New monuments appear. Very correct.
    Nobody is forgotten! Glory to HEROES !!
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  19. roskot
    roskot 7 November 2015 14: 48 New
    +8
    Eternal glory to the heroes. They rest in peace, eternal memory.
  20. yuriy55
    yuriy55 7 November 2015 14: 54 New
    +17
    Thank you guys for remaining faithful to the traditions of the Russian army and honorably fulfilling your duty.

    Eternal memory and low bow ...

    Farewell, the sixth company, gone into the ages, -
    Winged infantry of the heavenly regiment.
  21. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 7 November 2015 15: 23 New
    +8
    HONOR and Bright Memory! It is tragic that the Military Craft, by definition, implies similar ... Including what makes this possible ... I believe that A. Suvorov I wouldn’t reproach the Warriors of Russia for not having dropped the Honor of the Russian Arms .... Eternal memory to those who, at the cost of their lives, simply allowed us to live. Live in peaceful cities, work, raise children ... Low bow! And an example to all of us, the citizens of the Russian Federation. An occasion to think about why and how we live, how much we correspond to what the Children put their lives in, a company against thousands of scumbags ...
  22. sergio3004
    sergio3004 7 November 2015 15: 35 New
    +9
    The memory of compatriots who laid down their lives in the name of their people has been revered in Russia since ancient times.
    Blessed memory of warriors!
  23. tyras85
    tyras85 7 November 2015 15: 35 New
    +6
    Let the earth be SKY, men! The memory is ETERNAL! Nobody but YOU! ..
  24. Mr shrek
    Mr shrek 7 November 2015 15: 57 New
    +7
    Eternal memory to the guys! They fulfilled their duty with honor and in full! They proved who the Russian paratroopers are!
  25. Vladycat
    Vladycat 7 November 2015 16: 28 New
    0
    Consider a cynic or whatever. But my opinion is that it is necessary to remember such events, and not about the dead holidaymakers. In the first case - this is at the country level, and in the second - more personal tragedies.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 7 November 2015 23: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Vladycat
      But my opinion is that it is necessary to remember such events, and not about the dead holidaymakers.

      You are not right. We must remember everyone, as well as residents of houses blown up by terrorists. These are also soldiers, only unarmed. They died instead of other soldiers, because they were the easiest to kill. This is not their personal affair, but a state affair. Was it not even possible to simply assume that passenger airliners or simply civilians in simple houses could be in the first trenches of a war with the Islamists? No, you're wrong!
    2. mike_z
      mike_z 8 November 2015 12: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Vladycat
      not about the dead spa


      So you are on the side of “Charlie Ebdo” and their cartoons? Think of people, all Peter is still crying. Resorts ... These are people! Think what you write! Minus!
      1. Vladycat
        Vladycat 8 November 2015 14: 12 New
        +1
        No, I'm not on the side of journalists. In my post, I didn’t indicate with a malicious intent that prior to the announcement of the official conclusion, statements about terrorism and so on are nothing more than your guesses. Maybe I'm a cynic, but mass hysteria, a thing artificially created, which means someone needs it. Yes, these are people, I do not argue. Someone's relatives. But unlike them, the Boys did their duty, and most of them did not know what Egyptian beaches were. But still, my opinion is as follows. Indulge less in popular opinion. I have the honor
        1. mike_z
          mike_z 8 November 2015 14: 34 New
          +2
          Yes, where is my guess? Did I somehow hint at the reasons for the tragedy? I was at the Palace in St. Petersburg! Nobody drove me there, hundreds of other silent Petersburgers and guests too. What the hell is mass hysteria ?! My comrade died on that plane - Sasha Butkevich, a colonel in medical service, a class surgeon who saved more than one life. Wonderful man! A skier and a merry fellow, he was only 60, he made a present for himself ....
          Comments like yours are very popular on Ekho Moskvy and Novaya Gazeta, and write about the special services and the Kremlin’s hand. Egyptian beaches are often cheaper than ours. Yes, what's the difference what’s cheaper, what’s more expensive? People have died! Children a whole platoon! And for people like you, it's just "spa". You can not contrast the dead to each other! Blasphemy, but in our opinion - bestiality! This is my random +, I pressed the wrong button. Yes, and this is garbage ... pros, cons.
          1. Vladycat
            Vladycat 8 November 2015 14: 48 New
            -1
            I just experienced a lot of deaths and the attitude towards this process became cynical. I offer my condolences to the loss of a friend. I won’t even argue here. I’ll only say that I somehow read the theory that we are here as in prison. And as evidence sounded - not one religion does not encourage suicide (this is an escape), mass disasters (this is an amnesty), accident (UDO). And there will never be peace and goodness on this planet.
    3. moskovitt
      moskovitt 8 November 2015 12: 42 New
      +1
      "and not about the dead kurotnikov" .....
      Firstly, there were 25 children among them.
      Secondly, it is for the sake of such civilian “kurootniks” that the state contains an army. It contains the money of such "spa"
      Well, you .......
  26. starshina pv
    starshina pv 7 November 2015 16: 45 New
    +8
    and how many crosses and makeshift monuments along the roads in the Argun gorge remained, especially after the 1st war !? it’s unlikely that they have survived. ETERNAL MEMORY to all soldiers, officers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  27. The legacy of ancestors
    The legacy of ancestors 7 November 2015 16: 48 New
    +5
    Framed them. betrayed.
  28. Venenedim
    Venenedim 7 November 2015 16: 48 New
    +8
    I just can not understand why the guys did not come to the rescue. After all, so much time has passed, but it is not clear who is to blame that they were left alone.
    1. Mr shrek
      Mr shrek 7 November 2015 17: 48 New
      +2
      This is war. It was a tactical move. The guys were simply put under attack. If they had started earlier, the spirits would have scattered and retreated. The bearded thought that they were facing a weak barrier and perl through. But they did not know that these iron guys would fall, but they would not let. Which they did. The Russian paratrooper remains faithful to the end. Others are not taken there. The memory of them will live forever!
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 8 November 2015 12: 35 New
        -1
        You have a headache. This is clearly seen in this your "conclusion".
  29. Tai
    Tai 7 November 2015 16: 53 New
    +6
    Eternal memory to the heroes! One question on the topic only arises: why did the guys fight alone with this army of basmachi for two days? Where was the artillery, aircraft, etc.? Like it or not, before the paratroopers were thrown and forgotten ... and so, what is the question! The culprits got what they deserved? Those in bright rooms, with air conditioning and good furniture? Or did they also hang out on a quiet medal?
    1. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 7 November 2015 18: 44 New
      +2
      Because the height did not allow howitzers to raise barrels at such a degree and the weather was, to put it mildly, not flying. Yes, and with the number of advancing intelligence is "slightly" wrong. No need to say that the paratroopers were abandoned and forgotten. This is complete nonsense. And to hit in height from Khankala is all the same what to beat in your own way. There were no gauges then.
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 8 November 2015 12: 38 New
        -1
        You are another justifier for the criminals who left the 6th company to die alone. Howitzers have never been hindered by mountains from shooting and slopes. The main thing is to know the coordinates, and even the artillerymen will work out for the purpose - they have been taught this for 5 years at the Higher School of Education.
        1. vitaliy.rnd
          vitaliy.rnd 9 November 2015 09: 05 New
          +2
          You say nonsense. And all because you confuse theory with practice by mixing in the populist cries of "they threw them!" So it is possible to consider each separate checkpoint abandoned, because in case of an attack at night, there will be no instant help. Do you know where the howitzers were that day? Do you know which side of the heights the attack was from? Do you know if it was possible to work on a slope without relocating artillery? You don’t know what. Only insult and put cons, this is your five plus. And I do not advise insulting me all the more. Unlike you, I spent the end of 1999 and the beginning of 2000 in that territory.
  30. starshina pv
    starshina pv 7 November 2015 17: 02 New
    +3
    for both companies, how many such cases were in Duba-Yurt, Yarysh-Marda, and others. There was no help anywhere, or came but late !!!! So think that it is ....
    1. raid14
      raid14 7 November 2015 17: 27 New
      +5
      Ts.uki, no words, whoever was not there will not understand, everyone and everyone fell under the distribution.
      And so far no one has been held accountable.
  31. sabakina
    sabakina 7 November 2015 17: 28 New
    +8
    331 RAP remembers and honors .....
    The blessed memory and Paradise urgent for them ...

    1. GOgaRu
      GOgaRu 8 November 2015 11: 00 New
      +2
      The actor, who played the main role, like a captain (The Storm Gate movie), is now in Ukraine and is watering Russia with slop. Putin seemed to even give him some medal for the film. God works in mysterious ways!
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 8 November 2015 12: 39 New
        +6
        Many do not understand that a good actor is not always a good person.
  32. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 7 November 2015 17: 32 New
    +6
    Eternal GLORY TO HEROES! Thank you guys, if not for you, then who is besides you.
  33. Papin
    Papin 7 November 2015 17: 45 New
    +4
    Where exactly in the Nevsky district is a monument, comrades, write, tomorrow I’ll go, I’ll put flowers !?
    In St. Petersburg, a monument to the Pskov paratroopers - cool, for the first time I hear ...
    1. raid14
      raid14 7 November 2015 17: 51 New
      +7
      In the Nevsky district in a park at the intersection of John Reed Street and Badayev Street.
  34. mike_z
    mike_z 7 November 2015 18: 33 New
    +7
    The monument was opened today. I, too, laid flowers, like everyone else. Then they remembered with friends, recalled the past and years. And for a holiday we rolled on a hundred, and for the guys. In general, everything is as it once was, i.e. OK. There were a lot of youth. Flowers - the sea. But to be honest, none of us liked the monument. The concrete is white, but not as in the photo. Some blocks on top of each other - either a gorge, or you won’t understand what. With Cherekhinsky in no comparison.
  35. faterdom
    faterdom 7 November 2015 18: 33 New
    +6
    will open a monument won 6 company
    - please correct at the beginning of the article, this is without a doubt Warriors!
  36. Papin
    Papin 7 November 2015 18: 37 New
    +3
    It doesn’t matter whether he liked him or not - the main thing is that he is!
    Thank you, I’ll leave in the morning!
    1. mike_z
      mike_z 7 November 2015 18: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: Papin
      It doesn’t matter whether he liked him or not - the main thing is that he is!


      Undoubtedly this is the main thing.
  37. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 7 November 2015 18: 39 New
    +4
    Eternal memory to the soldiers who gave their lives for their homeland.
  38. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 7 November 2015 18: 57 New
    +4
    Eternal GLORY TO HEROES! Who put the minus of the article, and most importantly for something, is not clear. Even if everything is lost and you are a Ukrainian nationalist, learn how to do it, that's what is called courage, although what I mean, you don’t understand, you are far away .. .Here, if I were to grind the teeth of a prisoner with a file, or to kill a pregnant woman, mastaks.
  39. Maksus
    Maksus 7 November 2015 19: 23 New
    +6
    Blessed memory of the fallen! I was in Pskov in their barracks, there all the beds are made up and one day. Creepy ...
    And in Cherekh saw a monument. A strong monument, there are real autographs of guys on the inside of the dome.
  40. starec.luka
    starec.luka 7 November 2015 19: 39 New
    +3
    everlasting memory
  41. individual
    individual 7 November 2015 19: 39 New
    0
    Russia honors its HEROES, and apple mitrokhin makes-up board with junkers.
  42. holod19
    holod19 7 November 2015 19: 54 New
    +3
    Quote: GOgaRu
    As far as I know

    How do you know? ! You were there?
    1. GOgaRu
      GOgaRu 7 November 2015 20: 14 New
      -5
      How do you know? ! You were there?

      You certainly were there, know-it-all.
  43. Mr shrek
    Mr shrek 7 November 2015 20: 33 New
    +5
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Eternal memory to the guys .... We remember!

    Strong clip, strong song, strong film. A tear breaks through. Eternal memory to guys !!!
  44. Yarik Sanych
    Yarik Sanych 7 November 2015 20: 33 New
    +4
    That's who needs to erect monuments! Although, Solzhenitsyn and Yeltsin are more in power, judging by the investment of money in these characters and others like them!
  45. DMB_95
    DMB_95 7 November 2015 20: 59 New
    +3
    Quote: GOgaRu
    Everyone chooses for themselves
    A woman, a religion, a road.
    Serve the devil or the prophet -
    Everyone chooses for himself. (C)

    Well, tell me, lover of literature, what kind of landing did you have ?!

    When it is possible to die the most worthy death for a real man, why do you need some other choice .. To have a choice in any situation is for people like you - who put their precious life above all else. When you die of old age, remember these young guys forever and envy their death.
    1. Mr shrek
      Mr shrek 7 November 2015 21: 48 New
      +1
      A worthy death is, no, not beautiful, this is what you will be remembered for later, this is what you will be remembered for a long time. It will be remembered by those people whom you gave the opportunity to live, your friend whom you saved at the cost of your life, your platoon that left because you covered, your commander, if he was worthy of it (mine was worthy, I would cover him )
    2. GOgaRu
      GOgaRu 8 November 2015 11: 06 New
      -3
      When it is possible to die the most worthy death for a real man, why do you need some other choice .. To have a choice in any situation is for people like you - who put their precious life above all else. When you die of old age, remember these young guys forever and envy their death.

      Did you take these words from ISIS’s suicide bombers?
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 8 November 2015 14: 26 New
        +1
        I have enough intelligence and my own convictions not to use benefits. You are not the caliber of the person to question the correctness of someone’s actions. Moreover, the action of the guys who are not able to answer you from the other world.
  46. holod19
    holod19 7 November 2015 20: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: GOgaRu
    You certainly were there, know-it-all.


    To your regret, YES!
    1. GOgaRu
      GOgaRu 8 November 2015 10: 07 New
      -4
      To your regret, YES!

      Well, and who are you: Porshnev, Suponinsky, Vladykin, Kovalevsky, Komarov or Khristolyubov?
  47. Mr shrek
    Mr shrek 7 November 2015 21: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Vladycat
    Consider a cynic or whatever. But my opinion is that it is necessary to remember such events, and not about the dead holidaymakers. In the first case - this is at the country level, and in the second - more personal tragedies.

    It may even be so, it can be considered a cynic, but in both cases it is tragedy.
    Only in the first case were these guys who took the oath and knew what they were going to. These are paratroopers, they are warriors.
    And as for the tragedy with the "health resort", as it were, it’s simply not appropriate here, these are civilians, they have absolutely nothing to do with, it’s not yet clear how they died.
    You would have tied the MH17 board here.
  48. Barakuda
    Barakuda 7 November 2015 21: 54 New
    +6
    Who else would put a monument to these guys peasants. Akhmetov obviously will not give a bastard.
    1. Mr shrek
      Mr shrek 7 November 2015 22: 08 New
      +4
      These guys-guys-men are the ones who can restrain the rebuff of Nazi evil. These are the same guys who fought in 1812, 1904, 1014, 1941 and in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and many where, you won’t list everything .... But always, the spirit of the Russian warrior was, is and will be.
    2. I am Russian
      I am Russian 7 November 2015 22: 14 New
      +5
      Defenders of Russia and New Russia - honor and glory !! Russians - do not give up!
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 7 November 2015 23: 15 New
        -1
        I don’t understand one thing. Is there an article in Russia for mercenarism? On the DNR-LNR side there are enough Russians, THANKS THEM! Who can a lawyer, tell me how to resolve all this - who is in the right sector, and who is in the Cossacks .. They shoot, they kill in any case in another state. And believe me, on the ball for their money, no one is fighting there - there is recharge (Banshee Roman is an example of this - well done). Where from? guess the first time. Although there are really enough patriotic fans. But they need to erase the same form and prepare a hawchik, and from what, and for what shisha?
  49. Barakuda
    Barakuda 7 November 2015 23: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Mr Shrek
    These are the same guys who fought in 1812, 1904, 1014, 1941 and in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and many where, you won’t list everything ..

    And those who SHIELD ARRIVED ON THE KING'S GATES OF TSARGRAD-Constantinople-Istanbul. The fleet is clearly not created by Peter .. first.
    1. Mr shrek
      Mr shrek 8 November 2015 04: 47 New
      +1
      That's right, I just took it offhand, far into the past without getting into it.
  50. Eternal Disciple
    Eternal Disciple 7 November 2015 23: 15 New
    +3
    You are brothers there, pray Christ God for us! I bow to you!