Military Review

NI called the 5 the worst US combat aircraft

79
The Americans had several major setbacks in creating combat aircraft. National Interest called 5 of them. An article from the magazine leads the newspaper Look.




Failure began with an attempt to build the first Bell P-59 Airacomet fighter. He was inferior to both the British Gloster Meteor and the German Messerschmitt Me.262. “The American plane was a complete failure. Moreover, when comparing Bell P-59 Airacomet with piston-engined fighters - Lockheed P-38 Lightning, Republic P-47 Thunderbolt and captured Japanese Mitsubishi Zero - Bell P-59 had no advantages. In fact, this aircraft has become a test machine for other, more successful ones, ”the newspaper writes.

The second failure was the fighter Vought F7U Cutlass. According to the magazine, "it was equipped with terribly low-power engines, and in addition, extremely imperfect systems." The author cites the case when “one of the American rear admirals, who previously served in aviation "The Blue Angels" US Naval aerobatics team filed a resignation report as soon as it found out that its group was about to land on the Vought F7U Cutlass. "

In third place was the carrier-based fighter Grumman F-11 Tiger, who became famous for having literally "knocked himself out." “During the tests, the pilot of the F-11 Tiger tested the 20-millimeter cannon and managed to“ catch up ”with the shells that he fired from the guns of the aircraft,” recalls the publication. But the main reasons for the failure were not in the design of the aircraft, but in its extremely unreliable engines.

The fourth was the Convair F-102 Delta Dagger interceptor, which was created during the Cold War to fly at high altitudes and speeds. It was stated that he "will become the machine that can destroy the hordes of Soviet bombers after the cold war turns into a hot one." The characteristics of the aircraft were “promising, and the expectations were high until it flew,” the magazine notes. At transonic speeds, the car encountered impedance.

“To reduce resistance, the designers were forced to modernize the design of the aircraft, resulting in a configuration called“ Koki bottle, ”the author writes. “However, in some other versions, the designers were more likely inspired by the figure of actress Marilyn Monroe than by soda.”

Well, the well-known Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) closes the top five. It was assumed that the F-35 will be able to replace several specialized aircraft, "but as a result, the United States will receive an extremely expensive all-rounder who is not an expert in anything," the author sneers.

“Moreover, the requirements for the F-35 were set when future threats were unclear. As a result, the United States will have a fighter who cannot respond to modern challenges, ”the magazine concludes.
Photos used:
http://www.globallookpress.com/
79 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. gothartus
      gothartus 6 November 2015 13: 21
      20
      Maybe it was Majmudar who finally ate cocaine and wrote.
      1. vodolaz
        vodolaz 6 November 2015 13: 45
        +5
        An entertaining selection. F-35 is very deservedly located there: you can’t let go of one, otherwise bad Russians will catch up and bring down on MiG or Sushka))))
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 7 November 2015 00: 37
          0
          Well and closes the top five all well-known Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF). It was assumed that the F-35 will be able to replace several specialized aircraft, “but as a result, the United States will receive an extremely expensive handyman, who is not an expert in anything”

          Yesterday there was only a cool article http://topwar.ru/85704-f-35-vpervye-ispytal-pushku-v-vozduhe.html
          where the people broke their spears, some for the cool mattress JSF, others clearly went to laugh at him. And today, a repeat with confirmation already from the Americans themselves? lol
      2. Kostyar
        Kostyar 6 November 2015 13: 55
        +3
        NI called the 5 the worst US combat aircraft

        Paradise for Serdyukov .............. !!!!
      3. retardu
        retardu 6 November 2015 13: 58
        16
        The yellow newspaper, where the main article is written by an Indian who has nothing to do with military equipment, who was blamed here a week ago for his words about Russian planes.
        And then the line was already lined with pluses laughing
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 6 November 2015 21: 50
          0
          So it is clear when ours beat - full support, when ours - "tear" like Tuzik a rag !!!
      4. mav1971
        mav1971 6 November 2015 15: 29
        +1
        Quote: gothartus
        Maybe it was Majmudar who finally ate cocaine and wrote.


        they are.
        http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-f-35-joint-strike-fighter-one-amer
        icas-worst-fighter-14254
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 6 November 2015 13: 33
      21
      Quote: Vladimir
      Well, I do not believe in any Western calculations.

      I wonder why I don't see their "famous" Starfighter F-104 on the list ...?
      aka “Flying Coffin”
      he is the “Widowmaker”
      aka “The Pregnant Hatpin”

      The 476 aircraft wing was the last F-104 in the United States. In just a few years of operation, out of nearly three hundred serial F-104, a quarter was lost. Two dozen pilots died. In 1966, mass production for its own needs was discontinued.

      Serving outside the United States, F-104 of various modifications retained their high accident rate. So, of the available FRG 900-odd cars, almost three hundred were lost. 116 pilots crashed.

      http://topwar.ru/14768-zvezdnyy-boec-ostavlyayuschiy-vdov-istrebitel-lockheed-f-
      104.html
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 6 November 2015 13: 52
        +9
        I was also surprised that there is no starfighter, who is much more worthy to be on the list than the F-35 (how can this aircraft be called the worst?) And P-59 (one of the aircraft with which the US jet began - the worst?).
        But alright, they know better there in NI)
      2. TRex
        TRex 6 November 2015 14: 45
        +6
        Yeah ... In Germany, F 104 fell from the sky almost every week. This product was in vain ignored. In vain.
      3. spech
        spech 6 November 2015 16: 31
        +4
        Scoun SU Today, 13:33 ↑

        Quote: Vladimir
        Well, I do not believe in any Western calculations.

        I wonder why I don't see their "famous" Starfighter F-104 on the list ...?
        aka “Flying Coffin”
        he is the “Widowmaker”
        aka “The Pregnant Hatpin”

        the most interesting is accident rate by country, look very interesting recourse
      4. Cynic
        Cynic 6 November 2015 20: 02
        +5
        But because maybe even a drop of the mind, the author has conscience.
        To be honest, the 104th was ahead of its time, and Yusov’s state management began to fame for him. To impart a fighter-interceptor to Europe as a front-line fighter-bomber.
        And look what kind of car, we take into account, adopted in 1958
        Crew: 1 people
        Max. speed: 2556 km / h
        Combat radius: 1368 km
        Range: 2414 km
        Practical ceiling: 17700 m
        Rate of climb: 16459 m / min
        1. SSR
          SSR 6 November 2015 22: 50
          +2
          Quote: Cynic
          But because maybe even a drop of the mind, the author has conscience.
          To be honest, the 104th was ahead of its time, and Yusov’s state management began to fame for him. To impart a fighter-interceptor to Europe as a front-line fighter-bomber.
          And look what kind of car, we take into account, adopted in 1958
          Crew: 1 people
          Max. speed: 2556 km / h
          Combat radius: 1368 km
          Range: 2414 km
          Practical ceiling: 17700 m
          Rate of climb: 16459 m / min

          Therefore, it was also called a rocket with ..... That is, you can call it a rocket and a tension airplane. The F-104 rocket with ass-eared ears is ahead of its time, for flying priests with ears, and if you stand up for justice so straightforwardly .... Then no one found fault with the same SR-71 ahead of time ... "blackbird".
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 7 November 2015 13: 00
            0
            Quote: SSR
            Because it was also called a rocket with

            Was made as a true interceptor _
            Took off
            Caught up / Met
            Shot down
            Home
            But as always, it was smooth on paper ...
            On-board electronics at such speeds do not pull
            Armament is not so hot, etc.
            What to do ? Huge money was spent.
            The way out is elementary, shake off the allies!
            But those needed a front-line fighter-bomber, but what problems. Will be needed!
            The plane itself was difficult to control, and at speeds and altitudes, which was not designed for, turned into a widow!
            Then, following the results, there was noise. Judged both the right and the guilty. And in the SGA and in Germany.
      5. Aljavad
        Aljavad 6 November 2015 21: 03
        -2
        Serving outside the United States, F-104 of various modifications retained their high accident rate.

        And Italians flew to them until the end of the century (and maybe later). And modernized, modernized ... request

        A long time ago, one person told me that the MiG-19 is "the most useless plane." That there is nothing good in it except supersonic. That beats every second ...

        All new cars, until they are mastered by the troops and get rid of "childhood diseases", and fall, and the pilots are killed ...
        "104" was a revolutionary machine for its time. And as an interceptor he was quite up to par. And the desire to get a tactical nuclear bomber out of it led to the expectedly sad result.
        1. Your friend
          Your friend 6 November 2015 23: 24
          0
          Quote: Aljavad
          Serving outside the United States, F-104 of various modifications retained their high accident rate.

          And Italians flew to them until the end of the century (and maybe later). And modernized, modernized ... request

          A long time ago, one person told me that the MiG-19 is "the most useless plane." That there is nothing good in it except supersonic. That beats every second ...

          All new cars, until they are mastered by the troops and get rid of "childhood diseases", and fall, and the pilots are killed ...
          "104" was a revolutionary machine for its time. And as an interceptor he was quite up to par. And the desire to get a tactical nuclear bomber out of it led to the expectedly sad result.

          "And the Italians flew on them until the end of the century" and what does this prove? The MiG-19, you mentioned, was flown until 2014, can you imagine.)
          Do not justify the unsuccessful aircraft, it is not for nothing that the United States removed it from service 10 years after the start of operation.
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 7 November 2015 20: 14
            -1
            "And the Italians flew on them until the end of the century" and what does this prove? The MiG-19, you mentioned, was flown until 2014, can you imagine.)
            Do not justify the unsuccessful aircraft, it is not for nothing that the United States removed it from service 10 years after the start of operation.


            This proves (as well as the fact that the MiG-19, you mentioned, was flown until 2014) that the easiest way is to poke into childhood illnesses and remove from service. Or you can bring the car to mind. He was a "widowmaker" in the Bundesluftwaffe, where he was seen as an A-bomb carrier. And 10 years in those years was a normal career for an airplane in a country where something newer was released. And the MiG-19 flew until 2014 at all not at home. And not even in the PRC, where they were built. And in the Bangladesh Air Force, sparks still fly ...
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 6 November 2015 13: 17
    +8
    Canada sent states with F-35s. The new prime minister had enough intelligence and courage to refuse the super-expensive thing. Friendship is friendship, and tobacco apart. Now the Americans are strenuously "bending" their allies, forcing them to buy unreasonable hardware at the price of gold.
  3. SIMM
    SIMM 6 November 2015 13: 19
    -5
    Worst 5? There, if the normal 5 is typed, then good!))))
    1. kote119
      kote119 6 November 2015 13: 30
      17
      believe me, there will be a lot more good
  4. dezmon
    dezmon 6 November 2015 13: 19
    0
    And why be surprised, well, an exceptional nation!
    God forbid not the last mistakes ....
  5. roskot
    roskot 6 November 2015 13: 23
    +2
    As a result, the US will have a fighter that can’t answer modern challenges. ”

    And how much money and dreams have been lost.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 6 November 2015 20: 07
      0
      Quote: roskot
      And how much money and dreams have been lost.

      What problems ?
      They will print!
  6. cniza
    cniza 6 November 2015 13: 25
    +2
    Let the good pilots be needed, but they really have problems with this.
    1. kote119
      kote119 6 November 2015 13: 32
      +5
      and where did you get the idea that they have bad pilots? they seem to fly normally
    2. ydjin
      ydjin 6 November 2015 13: 39
      20
      Quote: cniza
      Let the good pilots be needed, but they really have problems with this.

      Sorry, but you are wrong! The average American pilot will fly more than ours! Only recently there has been progress! And they will have more pilots and planes. But a fuss will not bring to good. I am sure of our guys, of course, but the enemy should not be underestimated!
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 6 November 2015 17: 12
        +3
        Quote: ydjin
        Sorry, but you are wrong! The average American pilot will fly more than ours! Only recently there has been progress! And they will have more pilots and planes. But a fuss will not bring to good. I am sure of our guys, of course, but the enemy should not be underestimated!

        Good comment, Dear Eugene. hi
        But you, colleague, still periodically harass the Americans, you will become a "marshal" faster. wassat
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 6 November 2015 22: 04
          +1
          Well, not everything is so tragic! laughing Sometimes adequate people appear on the site who are able to understand and appreciate both the author’s thought and a joke. It’s a pity that not every first one is like that! hi
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 6 November 2015 23: 23
            0
            Quote: sharp-lad
            Well, not everything is so tragic! Sometimes adequate people appear on the site who are able to understand and appreciate both the author’s thought and a joke. It’s a pity that not every first one is like that!

            Good comment, Dear Oleg. hi
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 6 November 2015 21: 18
        +1
        I am sure of our guys, of course, but the enemy should not be underestimated!


        And more than that! It is criminal to underestimate the enemy. (see 1905 - "Japs", 1940 - Finns, and later - "in enemy territory with little blood" ...)

        God is not in power, but in Truth!
  7. mvg
    mvg 6 November 2015 13: 25
    +1
    It's good when there are dozens of "hurray-patriots" in the country, it's a pity that "durakoff, 100 years in store" .. Or maybe it's for the best ...
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 6 November 2015 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: mvg
      It's good when there are dozens of "hurray-patriots" in the country, it's a pity that "durakoff, 100 years in store" .. Or maybe it's for the best ...


      What is the difference between them? :(
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 6 November 2015 17: 06
        0
        Quote: mav1971
        What is the difference between them? :(


        Dear Alexei, as I understand it, this is humor, that there is no particular difference. wassat
        Something like that, colleague. hi
        1. mav1971
          mav1971 6 November 2015 17: 59
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Quote: mav1971
          What is the difference between them? :(


          Dear Alexei, as I understand it, this is humor, that there is no particular difference. wassat
          Something like that, colleague. hi


          I was just scared that they also need to be summed up! wink
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 6 November 2015 19: 50
            0
            Quote: mav1971
            I was just scared that they also need to be summed up!


            Well, I didn’t even think about such horror, colleague. wassat
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 6 November 2015 21: 21
        0
        What is the difference between them? :(


        Fools are more silent, but more active (be quiet - you will marry a smart one!). Unfortunately..
  8. aleks 62 next
    aleks 62 next 6 November 2015 13: 26
    10
    .... Interesting ..... But: ".... To reduce the resistance, the designers were forced to modernize the design of the aircraft, resulting in a configuration called" bottle from Koki "- the author writes ...."

    .... In vain the authors make mistakes ..... This "figure" of the fuselage is obtained in all supersonic aircraft, the so-called. "area rule" ("waist" on the fuselage near the center section) .... Look at the projection of the fuselage of the same MIG-21, Su-17, etc. ..... It is done to reduce air resistance at transonic and supersonic speeds .... hi
    1. tomket
      tomket 6 November 2015 13: 51
      +1
      Quote: aleks 62 next
      "waist" on the fuselage in the center section

      On the "Thunderchiff" it is clearly visible.
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 6 November 2015 16: 45
      +1
      George W. Bush served on the F-102 in the Texas National Guard. Why in the national guard? Well, so at that time the Vietnam War was going on! But what should he do in this Vietnam, the son of a senator? wink
    3. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 6 November 2015 16: 46
      0
      Uh-huh. Only the first version of "Delta" was much more beautiful, purely visually.

      Threat. And on the passenger, it seems, for the sake of convenience in the cabin, they scored the rule of space. The center section or under the fuselage bubble is issued, or above the fuselage :)
  9. avvg
    avvg 6 November 2015 13: 26
    +1
    NI named the best way to cut the military budget of America.
  10. tomket
    tomket 6 November 2015 13: 28
    +8
    Kaptsov !!! Where are you? Then f-35 shamed))))
  11. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 6 November 2015 13: 29
    +1
    You can also add deck Ryan FR Fireball times WWII, in which they tried to combine two engines - a conventional piston and turbojet engine. Combining the advantages of both engines did not work out, but it turned out to add up the shortcomings of outdated piston engines and new untreated jet engines in one machine. It is a pity that they managed to rivet a little while they arrived that the scheme was unpromising.
  12. Rainman_1
    Rainman_1 6 November 2015 13: 32
    -4
    And Yak 1.44. Why was he the worst disaster ???? It's just a question!
    1. northern
      northern 6 November 2015 14: 02
      +4
      Aircraft Yak 1.44 never existed in nature
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 November 2015 14: 57
      +6
      Quote: Rainman_1
      And Yak 1.44. Why was he the worst disaster ???? It's just a question!

      Amer’s cars are being discussed. As regards MIG 1.44 (and not YAK-1.44), at the time of construction and testing (99-2000) it simply did not meet the requirements for new realities, although, in my opinion, this MFI would have been brought to mind and if we already had a fifth-generation fighter.
      As for the F-35, the author is right, “a jack of all trades, but he doesn’t know how to do anything well.” The cost of the program and the time to fine-tune and fix errors and sores suggests that the Americans are “stuck” with Lighting. But for now, I think It's too early to talk about the complete failure of the F-35 project until it passes the state tests and acceptance. Then you can see what kind of "little animal" it turned out. Another question is whether these same tests will pass or will they start pushing the allies, we'll see.
      Sincerely. hi
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 7 November 2015 01: 08
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        But for now, I think it's too early to talk about the complete failure of the F-35 project, until it passes the state tests and acceptance

        Yes, they will finish it, I have no doubt. Just what will it cost and when will it end? Yes, and the Ameri LFI-5 clearly proves the worthlessness of a shallow platform for the realization of all Amerian (and not only lol ) wishlist. But as they say, "loot conquers evil" And this "good" at the mattress is the most.
        Note, with the F-22, the Amer had no such bunts! And all from what ?? From a vague desire to save! Type-platform is smaller, the value will be cheaper, and all in the same spirit! Avaricious pays double-folk truth. Thank God that ours did not plant on LFI-5 under the auspices of the MIG. The same cut would have turned out, but in the end, a flying head laughing
  13. Engineer
    Engineer 6 November 2015 13: 32
    +1
    I agree with F-102, but with others there are more worthy candidates.
  14. tomket
    tomket 6 November 2015 13: 32
    0
    In general, if you take almost any US aviation program, you can find a lot of examples when expectations did not correspond to what they received. For example, "demon", "corsair" and "tomket" experienced problems with lack of engine thrust for almost their entire careers. The f-111 had a huge range of problems, which were not partially eliminated until decommissioning. Problems with aircraft were more the rule than the exception, a couple of F-16s and F-15s and F-18s are practically the only ones who get out of this rule.
  15. Peterhof 73
    Peterhof 73 6 November 2015 13: 34
    +2
    Forgot to mention the Grumman F-14 "Tomcat". Accident statistics with this aircraft are frightening. Although perhaps this is the flip side of its massiveness.
  16. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 November 2015 13: 38
    +1
    Quote: roskot
    As a result, the US will have a fighter that can’t answer modern challenges. ”

    And how much money and dreams have been lost.


    They are not that stupid with this F-35. They perfectly understand that we will not start to wet them first, so they turned on the money-washer, made their people a lot of money. Then the same Nippons, Koreans will be bent down, further down the list, and even on the needle they will be hooked with the form of "maintenance". A rotten nation, in short, stinks of them all over the planet.
  17. Abakan
    Abakan 6 November 2015 13: 50
    +1
    I didn’t even read the article))) I understood the name of the article)) vzhik vzhik 3,14ndosovskoy country again print tugriki vzhik vzhik))
  18. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 6 November 2015 13: 51
    0
    Awww, Oleg Kaptsov! Where are you!!! laughing
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 6 November 2015 13: 55
      +5
      NI is a very controversial magazine. They like to translate it for a pro-Russian position - on the one hand, and a certain conservatism - on the other. And so there were scandals with fake interviews, and the editorial split. His best years are behind
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. tomket
        tomket 6 November 2015 13: 59
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        and the split of the editors

        Raskolnikov editor took?)
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 November 2015 16: 00
          0
          Quote: tomket
          Raskolnikov editor took?)

          Something like that. 14 editors left 10
  19. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 6 November 2015 13: 57
    +1
    How did he manage to catch up with his shells? belay
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 6 November 2015 14: 03
      +8
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      How did he manage to catch up with his shells?
      How an American pilot shot himself down. http://topru.org/6276/kak-amerikanskij-pilot-sam-sebya-sbil/
      1. 2s1122
        2s1122 6 November 2015 17: 15
        +3
        Well, this is just a pilot of an extra class, it’s also necessary to be able to do this. German asses just nervously smoke aside and giggle echidnenko laughing such aircraft and an opponent in battle is unnecessary
    2. Aljavad
      Aljavad 6 November 2015 21: 29
      0
      How did he manage to catch up with his shells?


      The speed of the shells is subsonic, and the speed of the aircraft is greater ...
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 7 November 2015 13: 07
        0
        Quote: Aljavad
        The speed of the shells is subsonic, and the speed of the aircraft is greater ...

        By the way, a very slippery argument unambiguously speaks of the great rosame of the firing plan, not not good cars .
        drinks
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN 7 November 2015 13: 40
        +2
        Aljavad SU Yesterday, 21:29
        The speed of the shells is subsonic, and the speed of the aircraft is greater

        What fright is this conclusion?
        The speed of the M61A1 "volcano" projectile is 1100 m / s. these are more than three speeds of sound. The initial velocity of the projectile is 1100 m / s, the projectile is about 700 m / s, the aircraft (although it is unlikely that he fired at the maximum speed), a total of 1800 m / s. Given the frenzied air resistance at this speed and the lack of an engine in the projectile, the loss of speed is serious. Although it is more likely that a particular projectile turned out to be defective in geometry (at such a speed it is critical) and began to roughly "tumble", critically losing speed + an incredible confluence of parameters of the projectile and aircraft flight, which led them to meet.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 7 November 2015 13: 45
          0
          Quote: NIKNN
          The speed of the M61A1 "volcano" projectile is 1100 m / s.

          Grumman F-11 Tiger
          guns: 4 × 20 mm (Colt Mk.12)

          hi
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 7 November 2015 14: 57
            +2
            I'm sorry what , took data on 104mu, and speed from there. But the essence of the matter changes little wink
            Thanks for the amendment.
            drinks
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 7 November 2015 15: 14
              0
              Quote: NIKNN
              But the essence of the matter changes little

              Yes, yes. But, the nuances ...
              For example, when did the shells actually leave the gun barrel? Supersound or at the moment of acceleration to the barrier? The flight path of the projectile and the aircraft itself?
              Etc.
              Without information, one can only speculate.
              Just the fact that such information is the place to be.
              hi
  20. Vanzalez
    Vanzalez 6 November 2015 13: 59
    +7
    "became famous for having caught up with his shells ..." is this a kind of dofiga reproach to the machine part?
    All progress is based on mistakes, the one who stands still is not mistaken. Aviation doesn’t stand still, just like no prodigy was born, starting with flying racks and ending with our ekranoplans
  21. Kibl
    Kibl 6 November 2015 14: 00
    +1
    The planes are on the side, the main thing is that the loot is allocated. Well, and then you can poke around for 20 years, and then declare that the defensive concept has changed, or another "malice" of the day has come. Saw and saw !!!
  22. ayuric
    ayuric 6 November 2015 14: 00
    +4
    here they are in order







    https://im0-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=05776f9c84dfa5affc792c3f9512d9ef&n=33&h=190&w

    = 290

    http://qecosmeticos.com.br/wp-admin/images/joint-strike-fighter-(jsf)-5317.jpg
  23. SAM 5
    SAM 5 6 November 2015 14: 04
    +3
    But with drones, they did not jump all over. And that says a lot.
  24. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 6 November 2015 17: 07
    +6
    The commander of the first Israeli 140th squadron F35 "Adir", "Golden Eagle", Lieutenant Colonel Yotam and his deputy, flew F35 in various modes and were very satisfied. And this is worth a lot, even for Americans. The picture shows a variant for Israel with conformal tanks. Suspended ones are dropped along with the pylons when approaching a distant target ...
    1. starley
      starley 6 November 2015 19: 28
      0
      Squadron's strange name: First Hundred and Fortieth
      1. Rader
        Rader 6 November 2015 21: 07
        0
        Oleg, why do you need camphor tanks F 35? Yes, even with PTB ... Or is it already not enough eight tons of fuel? belay
        1. Oleg7700
          Oleg7700 7 November 2015 01: 20
          +3
          In the official defense doctrine of Israel, there are openly hostile states of the so-called "third circle." This is all that is beyond the "second circle" - Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt. (With the latter two, peace treaties and close cooperation, not always advertised) Terras from Sinai, Hamas, Hezbollah and the like - "first circle". Conformal and suspended tanks allow the combat radius of 35 to be doubled, up to 2000+ km without refueling, this is probably what Hel HaAvir, i.e. the Israeli Air Force, needs to go there and back. By the way, each new chief of the IDF General Staff (in Israel he is the Commander-in-Chief) transfers to the successor the so-called. "blue folder" (electronic media) constantly updated bank of goals in all "three circles" So we live ...
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Saburov
      Saburov 6 November 2015 20: 44
      0
      So it turns out that with so many tanks he is more likely a tanker than a fighter.
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 7 November 2015 13: 11
      0
      Quote: Oleg7700
      were very satisfied.

      Maybe the fathers are commanders?
  25. Navuxonastupil
    Navuxonastupil 6 November 2015 17: 09
    0
    Quote: TRex
    Yeah ... In Germany, F 104 fell from the sky almost every week. This product was in vain ignored. In vain.

    No wonder they called him Widower! (Widowmaker)
  26. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 6 November 2015 17: 12
    +2
    Or so, in standard camouflage but without breaking the special coating ...
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 6 November 2015 17: 22
      +3
      And where do you fly on them, in the sense that I did not succeed in taking off as the Israeli border :-)
      1. Your friend
        Your friend 6 November 2015 17: 38
        +3
        Quote: 2s1122
        And where do you fly on them, in the sense that I did not succeed in taking off as the Israeli border :-)

        Iran hezh.)
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 6 November 2015 17: 42
          +1
          Quote: Your friend
          Iran hezh.)

          Well, just let Israel "bomb" who is desirable "unarmed" so that God forbid they answer smile
  27. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 6 November 2015 17: 45
    0
    I am not gloating, but let it be as the magazine concludes: "As a result, the United States will have a fighter plane (F-35) that will not be able to respond to modern challenges."
  28. starley
    starley 6 November 2015 19: 33
    +3
    the article did not solve its main task - there is no violent defender of the idea.
    As the audience chants: "Kaptsov! Where are you? Here the F-35 was put to shame"
  29. NIKNN
    NIKNN 7 November 2015 14: 53
    +3
    Strange measures of "worse" and there is a feeling of rather superficial, if not professional.
    1.Bell P-59 Airacomet. the first is reactive; by definition it cannot be the worst for America. It is surprising that for the label the worst in America is compared with foreign samples.
    2.Vought F7U Cutlass is really not outstanding for its time. But according to the issued terms of reference for a transonic fighter, he won the competition in (note those in 1946), the tailless scheme does not look new, but in the series and for that time, provided only the nascent jet aircraft is quite bold. By the way, many problems were solved on the F7U3 (including those with engines, although it flew from the deck with the old ones), but it was already in the mid-50s, and given the rapid development of aviation, it turned out to be the "worst" one. However, more than 200 units still entered service. Doesn't it surprise you? request
    3.Grumman F-11 Tiger TRD Wright J-65W-6 is an advanced copy good luck English engine "Sapphire" and I did not find information on complaints about this engine (conclusion "taken from the ceiling") During the tests, only 2 aircraft crashed, the first because of the aforementioned cannon, and the second because of the engine fire and the pilot landed it shortly before the runway ...
    This episode once again showed good controllability of the aircraft at speeds close to the minimum. Even in a "grave" situation - when the engine failed at low speed with the mechanization released, the "Tiger" left the pilot a chance for a relatively safe landing.
    moreover
    Later, when the Super Tiger aircraft was developed, the two short-nosed Tigers were converted into prototypes. Thus, the most romantic and interesting moments in the biography of the "Tigers" of the first series fell on six aircraft of the Blue Angels squadron: for its pilots, the most important characteristics of the aircraft were ease of control and maneuverability. And these characteristics F11F possessed, as they say, in excess. The Tigers served in the show squadron from 1957 to 1969.
    and to krenets
    Having ascertained the reliability and prospects of the new aircraft, the US Navy issued an order to Grumman for a batch of 157 aircraft
    Isn't it strange conclusions about "worst"?
    4.Convair F-102 Delta Dagger I will not comment
    F-102 was one of the most common aircraft of the US Air Force. He served in large numbers not only as part of air defense in the United States, but also consisted of other commands - in Alaska, in the Pacific Air Force and in the US Air Force in Europe.
    Somehow so unfortunate that .... request
    5.Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Emotions go wild (he’s also not accepted into service), In this case, I would ascribe the sixth generation to AMERICA promising developments for the 6th generation, and that they still won’t succeed .... request
  30. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 9 November 2015 09: 17
    0
    An interesting article .... especially about the F-11 Tiger I liked it)))) it’s a direct time machine .... laughing