Atomomor of Ukraine is bringing its end closer

Atomomor of Ukraine is bringing its end closer
After the coup d'état, one of the first decisions of the Kiev authorities (independent?) Was the return to Ukraine of the infamous American company Westinghouse. According to Y. Prodan, who once called himself Minister of Fuel and Energy of Ukraine, Ukrainian Energoatom intends to sign a contract with Westinghouse for the supply of nuclear fuel to load three power units.


If an unsuccessfully proven company returns, it means that someone needs it. And obviously not Ukraine: the United States is actively working to promote its nuclear fuel and reduce the influence of Russia on the Ukrainian energy market.

From the standpoint of large business, the interest of Western transnational corporations in the Ukrainian nuclear sector is quite understandable. By the number of power reactors, Ukraine ranks tenth in the world and fifth in Europe. Ukraine has 4 nuclear power plants with 15 power units, one of which, Zaporizhzhya NPP, is the largest in Europe. All power units of Ukrainian NPPs are equipped with VVER-type Russian-made reactors. That is, the market for interested players is huge. And, apparently, having tempting prospects.

As part of the current confrontation between Russia and the United States, the West cannot afford such a “domination” of Russia in the energy sector of Ukraine. Even after V.Yushchenko came to power, work began on the transfer of Ukrainian NPPs to fuel produced by the American concern Westinghouse. The experience of using fuel elements TVS-W of an American company at the South-Ukrainian nuclear power plant was unsuccessful. In April, 2012 was detected at the 3-m power unit of the South-Ukrainian NPP. According to the results of the investigation of the Ukrainian commission, a conclusion was drawn about the constructive mistakes of the American fuel cells. Losses "Energoatom" amounted to a minimum of $ 175 million.

Negatively evaluated the experience of cooperation with the Americans and Ukrainian experts. As S. Barbashev, Vice-President of the Ukrainian Nuclear Society, notes: “There were really serious problems, and they showed that the American tapes they made for the South-Ukrainian NPP are very much technically incomplete. They are imperfect and not suitable for our reactors. ” According to V.Nikitin, Chief Engineer of the Ukratomenergobud Company, the choice of Westinghouse as an alternative supplier of nuclear fuel to Ukraine was politically motivated and economically unreasonable: “American fuel is 30% more expensive than Russian fuel”.

Similar problems with the use of Westinghouse fuel arose in other countries. In particular, at the Slovenian NPP "Krško", "Loviisa" in Finland and "Temelin" in the Czech Republic, as a result of which these countries were also forced to refuse the services of an American supplier.

In 2013, all Westinghouse fuel cartridges were completely removed from the second unit of the South-Ukrainian NPP. At the same time, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine, E. Stavitsky, announced the plans of Russia and Ukraine for the construction of a plant for the production of nuclear fuel in the village. Smolino of Kirovograd region, the first stage of which was supposed to begin its work in 2015. Now let's compare the dates. The decision to completely refuse to cooperate with the Americans in an “amazing” way coincided with the start of the “European integration” coup d'état.

According to a number of experts, the American side currently needs at least four years to carry out the full cycle of testing fuel assemblies of the Westinghouse company in Russian reactors of Ukrainian NPPs. In case of positive results, with 2019, Ukraine will be able to begin the process of a full transition to US nuclear fuel.

In order to form a favorable public opinion during this period and to weaken the position of the opposing specialists, Westinghouse conducts an intensive information campaign to discredit the fuel assemblies (TVS) of the Russian TVEL company. In particular, emerging emergencies using American fuel at Ukrainian NPPs are shifted to Russian equipment, and the flaws of Westinghouse products are presented in the media as a result of the destructive influence of low-quality fuel supplied by Russia to nuclear reactors.
The key media figure in this informational struggle and the lobbyist of US interests is A.Abdulaev, director of the core design center of the Kharkov Physics and Technology Institute. Using his authority in the nuclear community and at the same time heading the direction of the scientific and technical support for the introduction and operation of Westinghouse fuel at Ukrainian NPPs, he systematically forms a pro-American point of view.
According to a number of experts of Energoatom, the anti-Russian statements disseminated by A. Abdulaev in the media are biased and significantly distort the causes of failures in the Westinghouse TVS, which are blunders by American experts in the design and manufacture of nuclear fuel elements.

It would seem, what does the EU have to do with the Ukrainian nuclear power plants and the failures of Westinghouse? But remember the recent events. After the initialling of the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU, official Brussels unexpectedly insisted on including Euroatom in the text of the treaty as an independent party. Those. the structural unit of the EU was placed on a par with the EU member states.

In the EU, only a few enterprises fall under the jurisdiction of Euratom: the Franco-German concern Areva NP, the Anglo-Dutch-German company URENCO, which is in the sale stage of the mentioned Areva NP, and the French state-owned company EDF. In turn, Areva NP actively penetrates American manufacturing facilities, becoming one of the largest manufacturers of fuel elements produced under the license of the already mentioned American company Westinghouse. The circle is closed.

How the interests of the largest Western European manufacturers in third countries are realized are clearly seen in the examples of the Ignalina NPP in Lithuania, Kozloduy and Belene in Bulgaria, and Bohunice in Slovakia. The condition for the entry of these countries into the EU was the closure of nuclear power plants that compete with French nuclear scientists. As a result, electricity in Lithuania has doubled in price, heating has quadrupled, and mass protests in Bulgaria, which have arisen after the self-immolation of a person who is unable to pay the bill for electricity, are memorable to everyone.

Ukraine is also being prepared for this scenario. Its implementation, together with the well-known problems with the procurement and transit of Russian gas, is likely to finally plunge this territory into chaos, destroy the already weak remnants of Ukrainian infrastructure.

On the one hand, Western "partners" using the "operetta" regime of Poroshenko impose American nuclear fuel, which will destroy atomic reactors.

On the other hand, in the Association Agreement with the EU, Ukraine’s obligation to ensure equality of domestic and export prices for electricity is clearly spelled out.
That is, by destroying the Ukrainian nuclear power plants, European suppliers will provide themselves with the opportunity to supply electricity to Ukraine at “Paris” prices. They will receive "friends" from the EU and full access to the uranium deposit located in the Dnipropetrovsk and Kirovograd regions.
Recall that a plant for the production of nuclear fuel was built there together with Russia. Which now will not be, and the raw materials extracted in Ukraine will go straight to the EU, returning back to the “Square” in the form of kilowatts at European prices. Indeed, why does Ukraine need its own production?

In this context, we should also recall the Kharkiv Nuclear Center, from which, in 2010, all reserves of highly enriched uranium were removed to the United States, which permanently deprived Ukraine of the opportunity to revive its own nuclear technology development.

The ousting of Russia from the Ukrainian market of nuclear materials poses the country the problem of storing spent nuclear fuel. Russian nuclear fuel for VVER reactors returned to the Russian side. Westinghouse will have to be stored in Ukraine.

Western nuclear concerns see Ukraine precisely as a repository for spent nuclear fuel.

In addition to the dubious happiness of having nuclear repositories in a small country, it is also alarming that all cooperation with the EU and the United States in this area, as always, amounts to non-fulfillment of obligations by Western investors. For example, in 2005, the US-British consortium Holtec-BNFL won an international tender for the construction of a centralized storage facility for spent nuclear fuel for the needs of Ukrainian NPPs. Commissioning of the facility was planned for 2015, however, the active stage of construction has not yet begun.

Meanwhile, 2 tons of fuel is still stored in a wet storage facility, which was launched back in 1986. Moreover, spontaneous “dumps” of nuclear waste arose in the Donetsk region in the Doncement plant’s quarry, in the Novoamvrosievskoye mine and mine in the village of Snow. In the Luhansk region geography was even wider. Nuclear waste was buried in the Dolzhanskaya mine, near the village of Sverdlovsk. Chemical slag was poured in Komsomolskaya and Central near the city of Anthracite, as well as Yanovskaya-3 and Shterovskaya under the Red Ray.

According to the former people's deputy of Ukraine V. Kolesnichenko, the goal of American expansion into the Ukrainian market of nuclear materials is “the destruction of nuclear energy in Ukraine. Then Ukraine will buy energy in Europe at completely different prices. Thus, a plan is being implemented to turn Ukraine into a puppet colony. ” Do not see this is impossible.
But the current Kiev authorities are ready to pay this price for the sake of turning Ukraine into an anti-Russian springboard. In 2016, the Ukrainian authorities plan to buy more than 60% of fuel for nuclear power plants from the American Westinghouse. In 2015, procurement of fuel for nuclear power plants was carried out only from a Russian supplier, UNIAN reports. With “I hope that with 2016, we will have five deliveries from 13 on the part of Westinghouse. I think that this will be a very significant step in order to diversify supplies, ”said Volodymyr Demchyshyn, Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine. This is despite the fact that earlier Petr Lavrenyuk, senior vice president of the fuel company TVEL of Rosatom State Corporation, said that Russia could start supplying upgraded TVSA-12 fuel to one of Ukraine’s nuclear power plants next year.

Russia is seriously concerned about Ukraine’s desire to use nuclear fuel from the American company Westinghouse at Ukrainian NPPs, as this can lead not only to the loss of a huge market, but most importantly, the destruction of streamlined technological chains in the nuclear industry threatens to create a massive emergency in the center of the European continent. In this case, the activities of Western players and their partners (or rather, puppets) P. Poroshenko and his team, from whose connivance and at whose mercenary interest everything happens, directly threaten the environmental safety of not only Russia but at least the countries of Eastern Europe. The hatred for Russia instilled by Washington so far turns out to be more important than economic expediency, environmental safety. However, these concerns in Ukraine do not matter, because taxpayers' money goes into the pocket of Poroshenko and his sponsors in the United States.

Obviously, the further radioactive insanity of Kiev will not only contribute to a huge increase in social tensions in Ukraine due to the multiple increase in tariffs, but will also be capable of leading to the very real radioactive genocide of Ukrainian citizens. And it will be the real “Atomomor” with millions of real victims.
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  1. Name 7 November 2015 07: 08 New
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    Figures "beyond the puddle" do not care, it’s understandable, but the GeyESites don’t understand what they think ... There is no question about dill, they only eat with their heads ... It's a pity.
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    2. Aleksandr72 7 November 2015 09: 41 New
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      Okay, these Svidomye their country into a landfill of nuclear waste "voluntarily" turn. But what, excuse me, do they think when they change nuclear fuel for their VVER to American from Westinghouse, already having negative experience.
      Given that in a country of 404, any undertaking, so that they do not, is carried out through one place known to everyone (do not think that the head is involved!), Such a “replacement” of fuel, and most likely the reactors themselves, lead and according to Murphy’s law will necessarily lead to disaster much worse than the 1986 Chernobyl disaster. At the same time, dillies will spoil not only their own country (which they apparently don’t give a damn about to the government and Poroshenko), but also their neighbors - Russia, Belarus, the same Europe. 404 country does not give a damn about the opinion of Russia and Belarus on this issue, but what does Europe think? Really the same as Svidomo? Someone is scared to get from such a deal. A nuclear power plant is not a grenade in monkey paws, it’s all one that the same monkey (Banderlog - Kipling) will put a nuclear bomb with an activated fuse in its clutches.
      I have the honor.
      1. Eugene-Eugene 7 November 2015 12: 40 New
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        But what, I'm sorry, they think when they change nuclear fuel for their VVER

        And they are not supposed to think, for them all the higher forces have already decided
      2. Belousov 9 November 2015 08: 00 New
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        Europe is not homogeneous. The French, Germans, Anglo-Saxons, Dutch, Belgians do not care what will happen to the Hungarians, Romanians, Poles, and even more so with Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians. They will even knock out money for the “elimination of pollution” and safely cut it.
      3. Belousov 9 November 2015 08: 00 New
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        Europe is not homogeneous. The French, Germans, Anglo-Saxons, Dutch, Belgians do not care what will happen to the Hungarians, Romanians, Poles, and even more so with Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians. They will even knock out money for the “elimination of pollution” and safely cut it.
      4. atarix 9 November 2015 08: 57 New
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        Salvage rules the world.
        in pursuit of profit, oligarchs are the same everywhere.
        Somewhere they are kept in check, and somewhere they completely lost their scent.
    3. zheka 7 November 2015 18: 08 New
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      They do everything according to the principle:
      "I gouge out my own eye - let my mother-in-law have a curve in the law!"
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    5. datur 7 November 2015 21: 29 New
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      [quote = Namerek] Figures "beyond the puddle" do not care, it’s understandable, but the Geyesites do not understand what they think ... There is no question about dill, they only eat with their heads ... But it’s a pity. The Geyrope people don’t think, they follow directions host from phashington !!! Alas!!! yes
      1. Amurets 7 November 2015 23: 57 New
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        Quote: datur
        The EU people do not understand what they think ... There is no question about dill, they eat their heads and only

        But what can they think if they, like the Ukropiteks, have legs growing out of their teeth? Now answer me: how much space is there for the brains if the whole orgasm fits in the head?
  2. Voha_krim 7 November 2015 07: 09 New
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    From the Internet:

    Today we will interview the sheep from the support group of the thirteenth herd:
    - Hello, great haircut!
    - Hello, thank you!
    - How do you feel about the construction of a meat factory?
    - It is perfectly! Our farm will now meet high European standards.
    - Have you heard that there is planned the production of lamb?
    - Nonsense!
    - Why not?
    “Just stupid things.”
    - But it’s called a "meat factory"
    - They will produce poultry meat.
    “Why not a poultry farm then?”
    - Well, what is there to understand? Because meat!
    “Have you seen their emblem yet?”
    - Yes, very successful.
    - They say that this is a stylized lamb.
    “Yes, very similar.”
    - They say that the carcass.
    - Nonsense, he just had a short haircut.
    “Have you heard about the bloodied sheep carrier?”
    - I even saw the pictures.
    - What do you think?
    “Maybe the jar of tomato juice bursts or floor paint.”
    “Doesn't it look like blood?”
    - No, very dark spots, the blood is brighter.
    - And if the examination shows that it is still blood?
    “So it was an accident.”
    - What do you think about the execution of rams near the administration building?
    “This is the job of the bloody pigs we drove away!”
    “Why did the pigs shoot the rams?”
    - Because they are pigs.
    “What do you think about the wolves now managing the farm?”
    - Very welcome. Immediately felt more order.
    - Do not be afraid?
    - No, there are very few of them, if that - we will immediately drive them away like pigs.
    “Are you sure it was worth swapping pigs for wolves?”
    - Absolutely. When the pigs were very dirty, now it will be cleaner.
    “Have you heard that five experienced wolves from other forests will be taken to the farm?”
    - Yes, this is very good, their experience will probably come in handy.
    - What do you consider the most important thing for the farm today?
    - Safety. The main thing is to ensure safety from taiga bears.
    “Are you sure bears are dangerous?”
    “Absolutely, they threaten our farm.”
    “But they have a very big taiga, the bears eat fish and berries there.”
    “And they also feed on young lamb.”
    - Why did you decide so?
    - I saw pictures of torn lamb.
    “Why do you think the bears tore them apart?”
    - No one else.
    - And the wolves?
    “The wolves are here to clean up.”
    - And what can you say about the rumors about the thousands of sheep killed in the eastern field?
    - I saw photos - these are not rams, but.
    “But they look more like sheep.”
    - No, those that served the bears.
    - Tell me, maybe it's personal, do you have your own lamb?
    - Yes, of course.
    “Is he going to the east field?”
    - No, he already got a job at a meat factory.
    “Does he write to you?”
    - Not yet.
    - Probably recently settled down.
    - Yes, the second month of everything.
    - And how do you feel about the decision to have a haircut?
    - This is a very correct decision.
    - Doesn’t it bother you that the stitch is carried out at a meat factory?
    - No, they have special equipment there for this.
    - You will go?
    - Yes, I’m sure to make a haircut like their logo.
    - well! Thank you for the interview!
    - Please always contact.
    - Glory to Agrofarm!
    - Glory to the rams!
    http://amfora.livejournal.com/..
    1. Chertkov Oleg 7 November 2015 07: 36 New
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      .......
      - well! Thank you for the interview!
      - Please always contact.
      - Glory to Agrofarm!
      - Glory to the rams!
      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
    2. inkass_98 7 November 2015 09: 18 New
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      Rusin anneals at times laughing .
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    3. Alex250834 7 November 2015 09: 28 New
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      well said and written !!!!!!!
      it wouldn’t hurt our press just the same .....
      but - nizyayayayayayaya !!!!!
      1. ydjin 7 November 2015 10: 33 New
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        Quote: Alex250834
        well said and written !!!!!!!
        it wouldn’t hurt our press just the same .....
        but - nizyayayayayayaya !!!!!

        Well, why, the top var is by law the same media as the rest, like newspapers and television channels!
    4. EFA
      EFA 7 November 2015 11: 49 New
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      Awesome allegorical comparison! And after all, everything is exactly as described, and you can’t imagine any better. Perhaps this is the best way to understand what is happening in Ukraine (sorry, not "on" and "in"), even for those who are little interested in this.
      1. Orionvit 7 November 2015 15: 05 New
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        Sheep, even on the forehead, at least on the forehead, everything is one. One word sheep. And if you interpret, one answer is all Kremlin propaganda. Angry bears from the taiga.
        1. APASUS 7 November 2015 21: 29 New
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          Quote: Orionvit
          Kremlin propaganda. Angry bears from the taiga.

          The material states that the Americans lack 4 years to develop the technology for the production of rods. In essence, Ukraine was offered for use as a landfill !!
          And even considering that Westinghouse does not take spent rods, it turns out that they will also make a dump of nuclear waste.
          1. Bijo 7 November 2015 22: 12 New
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            Quote: APASUS
            .In essence, Ukraine was proposed for use as a landfill !!
            1. uragan114 8 November 2015 20: 17 New
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              not lying correctly. must breast on the ground so that the machine would not melt. smile
    5. samara-58 8 November 2015 08: 41 New
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      This is an OPUS !!! good Sala to the rams !!! fellow
    6. anip 8 November 2015 18: 03 New
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      About the sheep tale - to the point about cheers-Utriots.
    7. igortyson 8 November 2015 22: 30 New
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      that's about whom the story))
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    9. Voha_krim 9 November 2015 18: 41 New
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      Quote: Voha_krim
      - And what can you say about the rumors about the thousands of sheep killed in the eastern field?
      - I saw photos - these are not rams, but kozli .
      “But they look more like sheep.”
      - no it's kozlithat served the bears.


      Quote: Voha_krim
      - And how do you feel about the decision to have a haircut?
      - This is a very correct decision.
      - Doesn’t it bother you that the stitch is carried out at a meat factory?
      - No, they have special equipment there for this.
      - You will go?
      - Yes, I’m sure to make a haircut like their logo.


      Sheep before the Maidan and after ...
    10. Archon 10 November 2015 04: 44 New
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      Very good.
      The great thing is that there are no direct insults and ridicule, no mate. Real satire.
  3. PlotnikoffDD 7 November 2015 07: 20 New
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    Americans hope to sit overseas. And in which case the fallout will fall on Europe.
    1. Andrea 7 November 2015 07: 26 New
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      This is if the wind blows there and it’s something dumb.
      1. alex74nur 7 November 2015 08: 24 New
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        Yes, God be with her, with Europe, but we too will not find it enough !!!
      2. Lelek 7 November 2015 09: 25 New
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        Quote: Andrea
        This is if the wind blows there and it’s something dumb.


        Dumb - this is poorly said. The prevailing winds are Z-NW, that is, they will carry this dirty trick on our territories under the Uk ... Hopak and squeals: "m ... kayak on gilyaka" and "glory to Ukraine".
        An analogy emerges with the end of World War II in Japan, when, on the orders of the Mikado, hundreds of thousands of Japanese made hara-kiri - they ripped open their bellies, though without the dancing and slogans "Japan's glory." what
  4. wasjasibirjac 7 November 2015 07: 20 New
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    Ukrainians and the West. Everything as usual.
  5. iliitchitch 7 November 2015 07: 21 New
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    Stupidity is just amazing, some kind of looking glass. They shoot themselves in the leg themselves, and then they will run to us to bandage, if there is still something left to bandage.
    1. Nymp 7 November 2015 08: 52 New
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      Quote: iliitch
      Stupidity is just amazing, some kind of looking glass. They shoot themselves in the leg themselves, and then they will run to us to bandage, if there is still something left to bandage.

      You think better of them than they are! Balts themselves not only a leg, but also (sorry) the eggs were shot, and something is not visible at our dressing station! Rams in one word (see comments above).
      1. parusnik 7 November 2015 09: 45 New
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        They shoot themselves in the leg... which leg, in the head ... yes, there is only one concrete in the head ... that’s the bullet and it’s stuck ..
  6. Rigla 7 November 2015 07: 29 New
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    Yes, and to hell with them. Let them jump and die. Only here are the burial grounds for waste radiation in the west. Ukraine to transfer and everything is fine.
  7. asiat_61 7 November 2015 07: 29 New
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    low-quality fuel supplied by Russia for nuclear reactors ..... Ash content is high.
    1. Zoldat_A 7 November 2015 08: 17 New
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      Quote: asiat_61
      Ash content is high.

      Is this, in the sense, less soot from American nuclear fuel? laughing I look at photographs of how the air is clean and transparent in Pripyat .... In Ukraine, apparently, they seriously thought about ecology ... laughing
  8. Igor39 7 November 2015 07: 30 New
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    They’ll close the nuclear power plants, gas transit will stop, I recently read on the censor, Svidomo were happy about the increase in sunflower sowing, the engine and rockets stopped selling and increased the volume of sunflower, this is overwhelming! laughing
    1. AlNikolaich 7 November 2015 08: 01 New
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      Quote: Igor39
      They’ll close the nuclear power plants, gas transit will stop, I recently read on the censor, Svidomo were happy about the increase in sunflower sowing, the engine and rockets stopped selling and increased the volume of sunflower, this is overwhelming! laughing

      This zradomoga again briefly! Sowing money is needed, loans, spare parts, fuel ...
      Agricultural machinery in the end! Funds are getting old! There are no other tractors besides KhTZ!
      Draw conclusions when the agricultural sector of the ruin is bent ...
      1. Igor39 7 November 2015 08: 29 New
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        Abroad will help them! laughing
    2. arane 7 November 2015 08: 44 New
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      Quote: Igor39
      They’ll close the nuclear power plants, gas transit will stop, I recently read on the censor, Svidomo were happy about the increase in sunflower sowing, the engine and rockets stopped selling and increased the volume of sunflower, this is overwhelming! laughing

      Of course I’ve overcome it. Whose only?
    3. Amurets 8 November 2015 00: 24 New
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      Quote: Igor39
      They’ll close the nuclear power plants, gas transit will stop, I recently read on the censor, Svidomo were happy about the increase in sunflower sowing, the engine and rockets stopped selling and increased the volume of sunflower, this is overwhelming! laughing

      They will switch to biofuel production, and if waste containers are attached to the loin, then biogas can be obtained or collected. All Yuzhmash will work.
  9. rotmistr60 7 November 2015 07: 33 New
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    Losses of Energoatom amounted to at least $ 175 million

    If this could be limited to financial losses, the flag is in their hands. But it can end in disaster. Kiev does not think about it, because in the first place - to the detriment of Russia.
  10. Zomanus 7 November 2015 07: 37 New
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    An interesting point of view, of course.
    But then again, if it comes to
    the destruction of Ukraine as a possible union state of Russia,
    then it should be so. Scorched earth tactics are the only option in this case.
    Well, in this case, Ukraine will be easier to divide,
    for the country will be equally poor without production and generation.
    1. Amurets 8 November 2015 01: 01 New
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      Quote: Zomanus
      Scorched earth tactics are the only option in this case.
      Well, in this case, Ukraine will be easier to divide,
      for the country will be equally poor without production and generation.

      Do not forget Chernobyl! One power unit crashed there, and how many people had to be resettled, the lighthouse and Fukushima plant, accidents at liquid radioactive waste storage facilities. So failure of only the South Ukrainian NPP can lead to infection of vast territories. There will be no burnt land, there will be a radioactive desert, and the population will be the first to suffer, and the population of those areas adjacent to the nuclear power plant, regardless of location, and there are four of them.
  11. pts-m 7 November 2015 07: 38 New
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    The urina ruin was completely blinded by hatred of Russia. Even the raw materials appendage of the geysoyuz it should not be. Svidomo will be destroyed in the boilers of New Russia, and the rest will scatter like cockroaches in different directions from the radiation field of the destroyed reactors by the thermal assemblies of the Hvestinhaos company.
  12. Armored optimist 7 November 2015 07: 42 New
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    If Westinghouse, controlling the bunks, blows up a reactor on urkain, then no one in the world will shout about bad fuel. They will shout that bad Russian reactors are not able to work with wonderful American fuel.
    1. shuhartred 7 November 2015 19: 04 New
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      Quote: armored optimist
      They will shout that bad Russian reactors are not able to work with wonderful American fuel.

      And they will expose themselves to be complete idiots and amateurs incapable of distinguishing firewood from gasoline, because if a wood burning stove then pouring gasoline there is at least strange, but mostly deadly. What, then, will their reputation turn into? So let them scream if absolutely downs. But they are not downs, or they will bring their TVELs to mind (it will be better for everyone), or they will try to blame the accident on the "machinations of the Kremlin", but in this case the whole world will turn a finger at the temple and again the question of reputation will become even more acute. I’ll have to actively search for the extreme one and it’s still there, but what for Westinghouse I’m not catching up with all this hemorrhoids
      1. DEMENTIY 7 November 2015 20: 04 New
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        Quote: shuhartred
        And expose themselves as complete idiots and amateurs ...


        And they ... anyway, in general. D. Psakoy proved more than once. As the famous fabulist said: Vaska is listening and eating!
        In general, we slurp. AND! And this is not ISIS in Syria - it is much closer.
  13. asiat_61 7 November 2015 07: 44 New
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    These can suit the whole Europe. And for one, a big kirdyk. It will not work for anyone, just not where.
  14. Mountain shooter 7 November 2015 07: 54 New
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    In order to promote fuel from the mattress and stop buying Russian, even a special policy is not needed. Put some lemons with greens "who needs it", and voila! And do not care that you can almost destroy your own nuclear energy. When the "green" in your pocket, which of the rich is going to live in a devastated country. There are nearby Italy, France, Germany. I have heard from familiar nuclear scientists that the adventure with fuel from Westinghouse will end badly. Not new Chernobyls, no, WWRs cannot explode like RBMK, but it’s possible to disable the reactor! The fuel assembly can “get stuck” during unloading, and there are chances of destruction of the fuel rods and all. The reactor is not repairable for decades. And in Dill energy is very necessary. Disable several units - and energy collapse will come. The energy systems of Ukropia are now balanced with the help of the Russian energy system. And if the maydanuty refuses to supply the Crimea, they will receive a disconnection from our power networks. And who will save them? Poles? Hungarians? Do not make laugh my slippers.
  15. Grigorievich 7 November 2015 07: 56 New
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    In Chernobyl they managed to blow up the reactor (experiments by Ukrainian scientists) it turned out a little, now they have decided more.
  16. sa-ag 7 November 2015 07: 58 New
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    The first recipient of the assemblies will be, I think, Zaporizhzhya and South-Ukrainian NPPs?
  17. Monster_Fat 7 November 2015 08: 01 New
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    The activities of Westinghouse in Ukraine may, in fact, lead to the loss of a huge market for Russia in the nuclear field. The fact is that Westinghouse fuel assemblies are corny cheaper. Their widespread use in Soviet and Russian-made reactors is only hindered by their somewhat unworked and hull form. It is only necessary to bring these assemblies "to mind" and then Russia will lose a huge market around the world or it will have to reduce the price of its products. To bring fuel assemblies to mind, Westinghouse needs an experimental base, which Ukraine provided with pleasure. Now it's up to the “time”, it will take several years to work out the technology to replace Russian assemblies. The fact that during this time, during the experiments, and the development of new assemblies, an accident at a nuclear power plant may happen, no one disputes, but Ukraine doesn’t feel sorry for anyone, it has long been a springboard for all kinds of “experiments” of its western owners.
    1. mark2 7 November 2015 11: 43 New
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      Something really is in doubt that American assemblies are cheaper. Well, if you started such a rumor, then I will start another. Both you and I have no evidence, but if you search, you will find it. When information came back in 2014 about Westinghouse’s return to Ukraine, and Australia threatened to suspend Russian supplies of uranium ore to produce fuel for nuclear power plants, all kinds of officials from the Ministry of Energy spoke in the media, Kiriyenko himself expressed bewilderment in the sense that this ore goes to processing for further sweat delivery to Europe and the USA. Mostly the USA. For their nuclear power plants. Either they lack their capacities, or they are decommissioned according to public requirements. Russia has enough of its uranium and its reserves will be enough for 81 years with today's consumption
      This is the first.
      Second rumor. The Russian gas centrifugation method for uranium enrichment is 50 times cheaper than the gas diffusion method used in the USA.
      This is the second
      The third. They say the whole thing is in the form of a fuel cell and they say they only have to work with a file and everything will work? Not in the form of a matter, but in multiple indicators. There both the form and the degree of purification .. Especially the degree of enrichment - purification plays a role. it’s like refueling diesel fuel instead of kerosene in an airplane. I already remember little on the topic of technical and quality differences between assemblies.
      This is the third.
      Losses of the huge nuclear market in Russia are not threatened. For the simple reason that Russia only services its own reactors, the United States only its own. And spent poison. fuel, Russia itself takes and processes, the United States does not.
      It is impossible to “tune” the assemblies; it is possible to reconfigure the reactor or completely reconstruct it. But this is expensive and inefficient. You won’t be able to tighten the fuel supply by eye - not a carburetor, if you know what a carburetor is))
      I am not saying that Ukrainian nuclear reactors will not be able to work. Probably they can, but how much? Maybe a year, maybe longer, or maybe an accident will happen right away.
      And 4 rumors. American builds of poor quality. multiple cases when the supplier delivered assemblies to the customer in Ukraine, and the assembly designs themselves were performed in violation of the integrity, which excluded their use.
    2. Норд 7 November 2015 15: 41 New
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      Westinghouse, in principle, is not able to repeat the technology of Russian assemblies. They themselves admitted this.
      1. sisa29 8 November 2015 02: 54 New
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        Well, maybe one of the reasons is this:
        American TVEL (or rather, TVEL TVEL) are fundamentally different from Soviet (now Russian). And the Soviet form after the collapse of the USSR was patented by the Russian corporation TVEL. In turn, the Russians do not have the right to produce fuel rods patented by the Americans. Therefore, the Americans can not produce fuel assemblies that are designed for RBMK and VVER-1000 reactors (or rather, they can but do not have the right). The Russians refused to transfer a patent for the manufacture of fuel assemblies TVEL for RBMK and VVER-1000 for Ukrainian nuclear power plants. That is why the Americans made a hybrid - a kind of Russian TVEL that would be more or less suitable for Ukrainian reactors developed in the USSR but to which the Russians could not “rivet” for copyright infringement.
    3. nemets 7 November 2015 19: 15 New
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      “American fuel is 30% more expensive than Russian” Read the article carefully
  18. Rurikovich 7 November 2015 08: 02 New
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    The process of destruction of a herd of sheep is accelerating request
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      avt 7 November 2015 09: 00 New
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      Quote: Rurikovich
      The process of destruction of a herd of sheep is accelerating

      At the very beginning of the races in Kiev, I said that they would reduce the population, first they would bring them to a state of livestock of everyone, then they would reduce to a state of raguli in a herd, and then they would calmly reduce the biological species of millions to 10. They will be disposed of in boilers organized by those who have not passed out and the will, who will be scammed in the form of a slave labor, well, the rest will quickly die out and not multiply in the new realities of a free European life. Actually, we also did this in Russia in the hope of reducing that kind of millions to 80, and it didn’t work, so we decided to practice after the Baltic states Velikoukrakh with an eye on Russia.
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    There was a topic about stupidity. In fact, this is out of the question. Rather, it can be called arrogance. Americans believe that they will be able to finish their TVELs on the knee. Maybe they’ve already finished. Maybe they’ll build something assembly in Ukraine - I don’t know. But from the point of view of the engineer, optimism is utter. Even when using fossil fuels, a slight change in its composition can very seriously affect the operation of the boiler. And with nuclear everything is more complicated at times. In a nuclear reactor, a hedgehog farts at one end - and then a tsunami at the other.

    Well, everything is clear with the Ukrainians. Who needs to be paid to who needs to - and here you have the necessary solutions. The sale of Ukrainians is well known. What is characteristic: once in Russia, in the same way, everything could be bought and sold. That's all. Let's hope that we have already passed this period and the corrupt creatures have begun, though not for long, but to plant them.
  20. Rash 7 November 2015 08: 59 New
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    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The fact is that Westinghouse fuel assemblies are corny cheaper. Their widespread use in Soviet and Russian-made reactors is only hindered by their somewhat unworked and hull form. It is only necessary to bring these assemblies "to mind" and then Russia will lose a huge market around the world or it will have to reduce the price of its products.


    There is another opposite process:

    A few years ago, TVEL began developing quadrangular fuel assemblies (hence the name “TVS-Square”) suitable for use in PWR reactors made by Areva and Westinghouse. Naturally, their design is based on many years of experience in the development, manufacture and operation of nuclear fuel in VVER-1000 reactors. In particular, in the design of TVS-Kvadrat, design solutions for the VVER-1000 reactors tested and proven in fuel assemblies for VVER-2014 reactors are used that make it possible to increase the operational reliability of nuclear fuel in PWR reactors. As construction materials, TVS-Kvadrat used modern Russian zirconium-based alloys. These assemblies will be loaded in 3 instead of the fuel assemblies of Areva and Westinghouse into the Swedish Ringhals XNUMX NPP of Vattenfall Nuclear Fuel AB.

    And taking into account the ruble exchange rate, it seems that our offer will be cheaper.
  21. Nymp 7 November 2015 09: 07 New
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    The European Union is not interested in radioactive burial grounds near its borders! Of course, they plan to bury nuclear waste in the eastern regions of the Outskirts. Our Rostov, Voronezh, Belgorod regions will suffer! And the geyropeysky herd of sheep does not think about accidents at nuclear power plants due to poor-quality mattress fuel, as it is also zombified by its Abdulovs. And about the dill herd, and so it says.
  22. isker 7 November 2015 09: 09 New
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    Quote: Riv
    Let's hope that we have already passed this period and the corrupt creatures have begun, though not for long, but to plant them.


    And the point is - to plant corrupt creatures not for long? This only emphasizes impunity! It is necessary to plant them not only - for a long time, but also - to death !!!
  23. fa2998 7 November 2015 09: 10 New
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    What are they thinking! They’ll bury another industry. Namely, energy production and export could become a locomotive of the Ukrainian economy. Domestic consumption is falling, excess energy is in the EU. There was coal, nuclear energy, even from purchased gas you can get energy from it’s profitable to sell. It is evident that jumping on the square is harmful for the mind, everyone is falling apart! hi
    1. olimpiada15 7 November 2015 19: 41 New
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      What are they thinking! ...hi

      They have no ability to think, otherwise there is no way to explain.
  24. victorsh 7 November 2015 09: 13 New
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    But the equipment for the fuel assembly plant lies at the Novosibirsk plant. we offered Kiev a "fishing rod for constant fishing", and they preferred "fish". It's cool.
  25. 33 Watcher 7 November 2015 09: 14 New
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    Well, here a question arises about the logic of American fuel suppliers. The market is large, but if the reactors are technically incompatible with their fuel, what prospects are we talking about? The reactors will stand up (at least), will supply, not where. Maybe of course they are counting on the construction of new nuclear power plants in full, but who will pay for it? Ukraine will draw a similar project through the years ... Yes, probably never. Plus, the supplier company can get a headache with the elimination of the consequences of accidents, they probably take their power units for warranty service? It already, not by profit, but smacks of work at zero, if not by losses. And what is the prospects of the market? It is possible, of course, to calculate what Europe will pay, blackmailed by an eco-disaster, but this is what my grandmother said in two. They can also buckle.
    Of course, there is another option, from the supply of Europe, to ditch the energy sector with a notion that would force it to buy electric energy from the EU. But again, the question arises of the solvency of the ward. I don’t understand, honestly, I don’t understand. What is the prospect here? There is Bulgaria, with a ruined energy industry, living on credit, well, not for long, how, don’t you say, losses, losses, losses ... Who benefits from this?
    1. Yuri Sh 7 November 2015 11: 20 New
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      And they are on the drum. Type- "to spite mom’s frostbitten ears."
  26. parusnik 7 November 2015 09: 46 New
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    And it will already be a real Atomomor with millions of real victims.... It’s bad when in the head, solid concrete instead of the brain ..
  27. Loner_53 7 November 2015 09: 54 New
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    It is sad that all this mess is happening near us, and we, apart from concern and stating what is happening, do nothing. sad
    1. DobryAAH 7 November 2015 15: 21 New
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      Bullshit lying on the stove. Here they shy away with some dirty bomb in the Crimea, can they move? And these donkeys have enough mind.
  28. AdekvatNICK 7 November 2015 10: 37 New
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    it is advisable to immediately cover the entire area with a dome.
    Ukraine will bring only anti-advertising of this company.
  29. dvg79 7 November 2015 11: 19 New
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    I think a “humanitarian intervention” is needed to save everyone, including us and Europe, from a nuclear catastrophe. These are not jokes, we will disentangle the consequences for centuries.
  30. eucledes 7 November 2015 11: 54 New
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    The article is illiterate.
    1. The difference between Westinghouse and Russian fuel rods is a slight difference between the distance grid rim, which was revealed at the initial stages of trial operation in 2012. Based on the results, the rim was finalized and finalized assemblies successfully passed trial operation at the South Ukrainian NPP without any problems.
    2. Westinghouse TVELs are really cheaper than Russian ones - and the decision to purchase them by Ukrainian Energoatom is not so much political as economic - banal competition.
    3. Statement "The condition for the accession of these countries to the EU was the closure of nuclear power plants that compete with French nuclear scientists." (Lithuania, Bulgaria, Slovakia) - either lies or ignorance: either nuclear power plants with ancient dangerous reactors (Ingalinskaya with its RBMK-1000 of the Chernobalsky type) were closed, or blocks with such old reactors were decommissioned (Bogunice, decommissioning of the heavy reactor of the first unit A1, Kozlodoy, decommissioning of spent reactors of units 1 and 2), while units with safe water-water reactors of the WWER series continue to work there).
    4. And, finally, the disposal of spent nuclear fuel to its supplier has a political reason, since during its operation a sufficient amount of plutonium is produced that can be extracted from spent nuclear fuel by cheap chemical methods - unlike wildly expensive gas centrifuges during uranium enrichment.

    Well, in summary: Ukraine’s purchase of TVELs from the Japanese (owned by the Toshiba Group) Westinghouse does not bear technical risks and is a consequence of the fact that Russia in the person of TVEL was not competitive enough.

    And the hysterical groans about the nuclear apocalypse in Ukraine are too reminiscent of those in Bulgaria, when Gazprom squeezed Rosatom out of there, financing protests against the reconstruction of Kozloduy.
    1. Stena 7 November 2015 12: 24 New
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      Quote: eucledes
      The difference between Westinghouse and Russian fuel rods is a slight difference between the distance grid rim, which was revealed at the initial stages of trial operation in 2012. Based on the results, the rim was finalized and finalized assemblies successfully passed trial operation at the South Ukrainian NPP without any problems.

      Yes Yes. Only this will have to be told after the next accident at the nuclear power plant - though it is unlikely that you will do it - you are not paid for it ...
    2. T-73 7 November 2015 12: 41 New
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      Quote: eucledes
      Westinghouse TVELs are really cheaper than Russian

      And they are sold to you according to the principle - buy and interact with them during the operation and after it yourself. Self-service is always cheaper, and you are not rich people.
      Quote: eucledes
      Well, summarizing: the purchase by Ukraine of fuel rods from the Japanese (owned by the Toshiba Group) Westinghouse does not bear technical risks

      Yes, we are in the know, they never had problems in 404.
      Quote: eucledes
      And, finally, the disposal of spent nuclear fuel to its supplier has a political reason, since a sufficient amount of plutonium is produced in it during operation

      And now you have that the reason is not political. The banal explanation that the Russian Federation accompanies the entire cycle of the creation and disposal of its fuel elements is not for you. Here to sell and forget - you are somehow closer and more understandable. Like your authorities - after us at least a flood.
    3. nemets 7 November 2015 19: 25 New
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      “American fuel is 30% more expensive than Russian fuel” - you really don’t have any brains there, read the article carefully, then write. Taking into account the ruble exchange rate, it’s also possible to 50%, because Ukrautom’s decision was announced even more than six months ago
  31. fomich1977 7 November 2015 12: 23 New
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    Yes, let them “charge" whatever they want, if only it would be safe. Although a strange approach is coal from South Africa, fuel elements from the USA.
    1. T-73 7 November 2015 12: 49 New
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      Although a strange approach is coal from South Africa, fuel elements from the USA

      Not strange, but politically sound. They have not operated on economic criteria for a long time. Yes, and why? Living from credit to credit and the economy is not needed. Deny - how racially alien.
  32. eucledes 7 November 2015 12: 47 New
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    Quote: Stena
    Quote: eucledes
    The difference between Westinghouse and Russian fuel rods is a slight difference between the distance grid rim, which was revealed at the initial stages of trial operation in 2012. Based on the results, the rim was finalized and finalized assemblies successfully passed trial operation at the South Ukrainian NPP without any problems.

    Yes Yes. Only this will have to be told after the next accident at the nuclear power plant - though it is unlikely that you will do it - you are not paid for it ...

    OK, since the autumn of 3, the 2013rd UUAS unit has worked on a mixed load of modified fuel assemblies-W and fuel elements in a ratio of 1: 2, operation and loading-unloading - normally, there are no comments. Or did you read some other report?
    1. Loner_53 7 November 2015 13: 11 New
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      Or did you read some other report?

      Tell me how do you like the game stalker (STALKER)?
    2. Stena 7 November 2015 17: 11 New
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      Quote: eucledes
      OK, since the autumn of 3, the 2013rd UUAS unit has worked on a mixed load of modified fuel assemblies-W and fuel elements in a ratio of 1: 2, operation and loading-unloading - normally, there are no comments. Or did you read some other report?

      Here the key word is mixed. You try to fill in a diesel engine in a gasoline engine. What will happen? If together with gasoline in an already running engine, it will work. Only all filters are clogged. But if without gasoline - that is, not together - it will hardly work. Plus, equipment wear is accelerated. And here jokes to joke nizya ... But you do not care - the main thing is to move away from the Russians away. But specialists from Rosatom will most likely have to fix your jamb ...
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        Quote: Stena
        But specialists from Rosatom will most likely have to fix your jamb ...

        However, you are an optimist! Most likely, the majority of those living near the nuclear power plant will see SHOW Salute at the nuclear power plant TWO TIMES; First and Last. And there will be nothing for Rosatom’s specialists to restore.
      2. eucledes 8 November 2015 21: 21 New
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        An absolutely incorrect comparison: in both types of assemblies, the enrichment parameters are the same, the materials of the shells (zirconium) are the same, the effective absorption cross sections (purification of zirconium from hafin) are the same.
        Physics and chemistry do not have a national affiliation - nor do the technologies for pressurized water reactors they define.

        So the correct analogy is to dilute the 95th Ufa gasoline with the 95th Shelovsky :)
    3. I am 7 November 2015 18: 37 New
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      Damn refuel your car instead of 95th gasoline with diesel fuel. Just write it off necessarily, otherwise it’s interesting how you won’t find a solarium (you spent it all on ATO) try kerosene, well, or moonshine, but not viskar (in the film you already showed the result of this deep-science experience in the film).
    4. nemets 7 November 2015 19: 27 New
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      Is there a photo of this report? and you can write anything you like. they also write on the fences and the lawn is behind it
  33. Kibl 7 November 2015 15: 14 New
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    How vile it all is! The Kiev ghouls, led by them, are ready to destroy their own people, just to lick the eared macaque. I think PARASHA would hardly have poured low-quality kerosene into his duty plane so that the engines could stand somewhere above the Atlantic! And with this incomprehensible fuel for nuclear power plants, not under it, these stations were imprisoned!
  34. Insurgent LC 7 November 2015 16: 41 New
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    In the Luhansk region, geography turned out to be even wider. Nuclear waste was buried in the Dolzhanskaya mine, near the village of Sverdlovsk.
    For information of the author, there is no such village Sverdlovk, but there is the city of Sverdlovsk which is a district center with a population of 75 people. And taking into account the population of the region of 000. Dolzhanskaya mine is a city-forming enterprise that employs 125 people with production horizons of 000-2200 meters and they couldn’t make a burial ground for this mine, but there are several mines that were mothballed; one of them is the Voikovskaya mine, it’s like a burial ground and is equipped in this mine
  35. chelovektapok 7 November 2015 18: 03 New
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    The tricks of smoked ukrobomzha on a misunderstood technique of increased danger. Ukrobabuins will jump and crap at the buttons with a dub, purely so that they are given money. Otherwise, the entire EU and the surrounding area will be polluted with “high-tech” schizoids!
  36. gammipapa 7 November 2015 19: 32 New
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    Very good review in Ukraine, very worth a look

  37. Reptiloid 7 November 2015 19: 42 New
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    Almost all of Ukraine’s actions are provocative, blackmailing in relation to the Russian Federation.
    If figuratively --- they try to tease the bear, make faces, run closer, closer ....
    When do they jump?
  38. rus-5819 7 November 2015 21: 05 New
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    accidents involving the use of American fuel at Ukrainian nuclear power plants are being transferred to Russian equipment,

    Not x .. poke your bolts where the thread does not match
  39. rus-5819 7 November 2015 21: 27 New
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    A. Abdulaev. Using his authority in the nuclear community and at the same time leading the direction of scientific and technical support for the introduction and operation of Westinghouse fuel at Ukrainian nuclear power plants, he systematically shapes the pro-American point of view.

    And in Russia there are Pagosyan, Manturov and Slyusar who ditched the domestic aviation industry for the sake of "Super Jet", which is provided for 80% by imported spare parts, and there are LADIES who, without looking, “waved” the plan for the development of domestic civil aircraft manufacturing until 2020, in which there is no place for domestic development, despite the fact that there is everything for their production and there are customers for these aircraft, including foreign ones. And this despite orders THE PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA!
    What else to talk about !!!!
  40. Henry Katz 8 November 2015 00: 32 New
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    Worst of all, when we chase h.khlov, hemorrhoids with the disposal of Amer’s rods we will have to solve.
  41. Aljavad 8 November 2015 03: 04 New
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    Here is Pripyat ...
    And if it goes like this, there will also be a Priest, and, God forbid, Prisem ... request
  42. Old26 8 November 2015 09: 58 New
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    Okay, these Svidomye their country into a landfill of nuclear waste "voluntarily" turn. But what, excuse me, do they think when they change nuclear fuel for their VVER to American from Westinghouse, already having negative experience.

    Well, you ask questions. What are they thinking? But is it difficult to think and build a logical chain yourself?
    They are jumping - jumping
    Legs, hands they have - have
    Legs-hands move - move
    So the brain functions in them ... the spinal cord. That's all. And you ask what they think ... laughing

    Quote: Aleksandr72
    ... then such a "replacement" of fuel, and behind them, and most likely the reactors themselves

    They will replace fuel, never reactors. Americans are not so stupid as to supply reactors to Ukraine for free. And they have nothing to pay. Unless barter is fat and sunflower (by weight), but Americans are unlikely to agree to this

    Quote: armored optimist
    If Westinghouse, controlling the bunks, blows up a reactor on urkain,

    Well, blow up VVER - it will have to be able to, it’s not RBMK ... It has a protective shell
  43. kunstkammer 8 November 2015 15: 02 New
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    Chernobal

    actually, it's Chernobyl. But this is of course trifles .. here to make a mistake, there to lie.
  44. crambol 8 November 2015 16: 03 New
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    emergencies involving the use of American fuel at Ukrainian nuclear power plants are transferred to Russian equipment, and Westinghouse production flaws are presented to the media as a result of the destructive influence of low-quality nuclear fuel supplied by Russia.


    And we say: These strangers interfere with the horseradish dancer! "


  45. Cananecat 9 November 2015 01: 33 New
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    People, let's just think about a number of questions ... Since what year has Ukraine used "foreign" fuel at its nuclear power plants? If everything is so bad and foreign fuel doesn’t drive our reactors, then where are the reports of accidents and other emergencies related to the operation of this fuel? It is extremely difficult and impossible for Kiev to create an information vacuum around such an emergency. So, is everything so bad in this area as they try to present us?
    ... this ... we remove the caps and do not throw them, but simply turn on the mosk for analysis, information search. hi
  46. Belousov 9 November 2015 09: 39 New
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    There is always a risk that it will explode. But with US elements, the risk increases. Europe, at least the old Europe (Germany, France, etc.) will not affect, and the new Europe do not care for the staff. But then we’ll fly in and fly very much.
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    What neighbors because of their ...
  48. Peaceful 9 November 2015 18: 32 New
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    In Kharkov, hoping ... that Lviv will leave for Poland ... And they will safely return to Russia .. And this madhouse will end ... Hope dies last ...
  49. Old old 10 November 2015 00: 57 New
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    Judging by the Maidan and subsequent events, toxic waste has been sprayed in the air there for a long time.
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    In Kharkov, hoping ... that Lviv will leave for Poland ... And they will safely return to Russia .. And this madhouse will end ... Hope dies last ...



    Can I find out where such information comes from?