Is it possible that TOER threatens the national security of Russia?

The idea of ​​creating TOER (territories of advanced economic development) excites some minds in our country almost from the moment it appeared as an idea. And when the idea was transformed into law, the noise and cry was raised serious. What a sin to conceal, as a person who is not indifferent to the future of Russia, I also paid attention to this idea. Today I am glad that I did without cries on the topic “Russia was sold to the Chinese” and the like.


Is it possible that TOER threatens the national security of Russia?


However, publications on the topic of TOER still appear in various media and in the Internet space. And, bearing in mind what was said once "A", I decided to say "B", but after conducting some investigation on the topic "Who benefits from the appearance of a TOER and how (if that) to deal with it."

In general, with the TOER from the very beginning of the emergence of the ideas are already fighting. Public figures, scientists and economists. Boldyrev Yu.Yu., Saveliev A.N. ("Great Russia"), Filin V.I. ("For nationalization and deprivatization ..."), Kulikova N.V. (NP "Board of Analysts"), Sivkov K.V. (Academy of Geopolitical Problems), Parshev A.P. ("The Party Cause"), Lisovsky Y.A. (“For the Revival of Russian Science”), Myamlin KE (Institute of High Communitarianism), Kuryanovich N.V. (“Russian Union of All People”), Stepanov F.E. (Expert Center "Strategic Management and Policy").

In their opinion, the law was adopted without broad public discussion and economic justification, as well as taking into account the views of the regions. Moreover, it violates the Constitution of Russia.

Open joint-stock companies and their private subsidiaries are being created, which receive at their disposal the entire territory of priority development zones. And along with the territory they get all the natural resources of these zones, as well as real estate.

Zones are practically exempt from taxes, labor is delivered there without restrictions. Foreigners are allowed to extract and export minerals, hydrocarbons, cut down forests, fish, shoot animals in any quantity and without compensation for damage.

Under the banner of "advanced development", those who disagree want to see the surrender of national wealth in private foreign hands. Allegedly, the population is replaced and the distribution of natural resources. In this case there is no talk about the construction of any production of finished products.

The charges are very serious, it makes sense to figure it out.

To date, nine territories of advanced socio-economic development have been created in the Far East. They decided to start from the Far East, as from a region requiring increased attention.

I propose to get acquainted with the collection of information on all nine TORs, and then to draw conclusions as to how these zones correspond to what their opponents put forward.

"Khabarovsk". Area 587 ha. The main direction - transport and logistics, metallurgy. During the implementation of projects in these territories 3 thousand jobs will be created.

Komsomolsk. The area will be 210 ha. The main areas will be the aircraft industry, the production of components for the aircraft industry. About 3 thousand jobs will be created.

"Nadezhdinskaya". Area 806 ha. It will specialize in the development of transport and logistics services, processing industry, etc. 1,6 thousand jobs will be organized.

"Priamurskaya". Occupies territory in 857 ha. A cement clinker processing plant with a capacity of 142 thousand tons per year, a refinery, and a large logistics center will be built here. The implementation of projects will create about 1,5 thousand jobs.

"Belogorsk". The area will be 702 ha. The main direction is agriculture. The construction of a soybean processing plant, a feed mill and a bakery plant is planned. In the course of project implementation, 700 jobs will be organized. By the way, the bakery has already earned.

"Industrial Park" Kangalassy " It is being created on the territory of the capital of the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia), on land plots of almost 17 ha, and will have industrial specialization. It is assumed that by 2018 there will be 13 factories operating here: for the production of ceramic blocks, paints and varnishes, plastic pipes, dry building mixes, etc. 350 more jobs will appear.

"Beringovsky" (specialization - mining industry) will be created on the territory of a group of coal deposits in the Anadyr district and the city of Anadyr in the Chukotka Autonomous Region. The area of ​​TORA will be almost 6 thousand hectares. 450 jobs will be organized. Processing is expected to 50 million cubic meters. meters of gas into diesel fuel and gasoline, which will ensure the needs of the Chukotka Autonomous Region for energy resources and abandon the Northern delivery of petroleum products.

"Mikhailovskaya". Area 3,15 thousand hectares in Primorsky Krai. Will specialize in agriculture. It is planned to build pig farms, feed mills and auxiliary production. 2,4 thousand jobs will appear.

Kamchatka. The area will be 2,2 thousand hectares. A tourist-recreational cluster, modern industrial-industrial complexes will appear here, and in the future - a transit container port for accumulating and sorting containerized cargo during transportation along the Northern Sea Route. About 3 thousand jobs will be organized.

So what do we see? And we see the following picture. For its objectivity, it is worth to divide the TORs into three categories.

1. Industrial and logistic. 6 TOROV. Their total area is 3179 ha. And the implementation of these projects will create 10 150 jobs.

2. Agriculture, mining, tourism and so on. That is something that requires large areas. Their area will be 11 350 ha and will employ almost 6 thousands of people.

And now let us remember what the area of ​​the subjects of the Federation, on whose territories these TORs are located.

Primorsky Krai - 164 673 square. km
Khabarovsk region - 787 633 square. km
Kamchatka region - 464 275 square. km

Let me remind you that one square kilometer is 100 hectares. Accordingly, the TORA will occupy an area in 145,29 square. km What is the total area in 1 416 581 sq. km even to calculate the percentage does not make any sense.

Obviously, the mass land surrender do not understand who it is. As well as the fact that foreign workers will flood the land. 16 of thousands of jobs is not so much, in principle. However, for regions where the employment situation is catastrophic, this is a great relief.

Of course, in the Primorsky and Khabarovsk territories it is quite possible to attract the work of the same guests from abroad. But this is a matter of domestic policy, and putting it at the proper level will not be a problem.

Let me quote Mr. Miamlin.

“It’s not difficult to guess that these territories stand out for“ our Chinese partners. ”It is supposed that the Chinese will come to us, and they will develop our lands for our money. And we will also get taxes to the treasury from all of this.

Since we are realists, and we have been following the situation for a long time, we understand what it really becomes - into a predatory squandering of our minerals, our resources - for the benefit of the neighboring country. We will only have scorched and shattered land - as it was left by Chinese farmers who have barbarously exploited the leased fields. "


I agree with him only on the very last point. Yes, Chinese farmers have proven far from the best. However, where are Chinese farmers, and where is the mine in Chukotka?

In addition, the TORA Act states that:

Article 4. Financial support for the deployment of infrastructure objects of the territory of advanced socio-economic development

1. Financial support for the deployment of infrastructure objects of the territory of advanced socio-economic development at the expense of the federal budget, the budget of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation and local budgets, as well as extrabudgetary sources of funding.

2. Obligations of the Russian Federation to finance the deployment of infrastructure facilities of the territory of advanced socio-economic development can be fulfilled by:

1) contributing to the share capital of the management company, one hundred percent of shares owned by the Russian Federation and which provides funding for the placement of infrastructure objects of the territory of advanced socio-economic development ...


How the Chinese "will come and take everything", to be honest, in the light of the law is absolutely not clear. In accordance with the words of Miamlin, the Chinese would be able to get what is given to the use of the companies participating in the TOR, on 100% owned by the Russian Federation, China should at least become a subject of the Russian Federation. And this, as you understand, from the field of jokes.

In general, any project has those who support it, and those who are against it. And opponents do not always choose the honest path of struggle. Distortion of facts, "crooked" quotes, frank hysteria. To understand why Myamlin (he is simply the most active) associates are so protesting against TOR, there is simply no desire. And that's why.

The best confirmation of the conclusion that the Torah is not such a perilous idea for Russia, I received on the Irkutsk city portal irkutskmedia.ru. There were several materials on the creation of TOR in the Irkutsk region. And, by the way, the Irkutsk people expressed their discontent. Very much expressed.

Here are just the discontent of the Irkutsk people was not caused by the fact of the establishment of the TOR in the Irkutsk region. And the fact that the list of TOP missed the whole of the Irkutsk region. The list, approved by the government of the Russian Federation, includes only single-industry towns with the most difficult socio-economic situation: Shelekhov and Baikalsk. And now the deputies of the local Legislative Assembly, with the support of their deputies in the State Duma, are fighting for the whole Irkutsk region to be included in the PDA.

That such things in Irkutsk.

Conclusion: TOR - a kind of lifeline for those regions where development actually slowed down more than one year ago. Regions that need to not just develop, which is necessary to start saving.

None of the documents studied (and I had to study it fairly) did not find even the slightest evidence that the development of the regions was planned at the expense of imported labor. Only allegations of incomprehensible "experts" and "scientists."

None of the documents found confirmation that the lands and enterprises will be settled at the expense of some foreign investors, to which they will later withdraw. On the contrary, the mention of the words "federal budget" was more common than anything else. Yes, “other” methods and methods are allowed by the letter of the law, but the federal budget was so choked up that it was necessary to believe. As well as I had to believe that no foreign company would be allowed to manage these TORs.

So, the Torah is not an attempt to surrender Siberia and the Far East to anyone else, as Mr. Myamlin wants to prove, but an attempt to restore what was actually lost during the years of "democracy and restructuring." Yes, democratically rebuilt. Now it is necessary to recover. How much mutilated and sold for nothing.

Yes, in our very difficult and very meaningful time, you need to carefully look three times at the one you are listening to. It seems to be a patriot of Russia, but in actual fact it is not either Filin, not Myamlin ...
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  1. Xarza17 9 November 2015 07: 59 New
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    This is essentially a concession. In appearance it looks like a buyout for China's support for recent events. The population is rubbed on the ears that everything is supposedly good, everything is fine. The Chinese will then be impossible to expel. Everyone knows what a referendum is. After 49 years, time will tell! I'm not going to argue with anyone and prove something. Just expressing my opinion. Good intentions ... I myself was born and live in Yakutia. Provider MegaFon. Xs why amer flag
    1. oldseaman1957 9 November 2015 09: 14 New
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      “It looks like a buy-in for China’s support for recent events.” - Well, Putin doesn’t look like a giveaway player. Still, we must rely more on the patriotism and foresight of our president (which he clearly proved to the whole world), and not cry in advance.
      1. bastard 9 November 2015 10: 56 New
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        Quote: oldseaman1957
        Still, we must rely more on the patriotism and foresight of our president (which he clearly proved to the whole world), and not cry in advance.

        Patriotism of the Great and Terrible is rushing from all the cracks. All I can hear is that during his 15 years in power he regularly recites mantras and spells that, right now, foreign investors will line up for us and will vying with each other to offer investments, innovations, generations and other onanotechnologies. It is only necessary to create a favorable investment climate (to promise everything almost for nothing or what?) And the capitalists of the whole world, pushing and biting each other, choking with happiness, will run to warm and comfortable Russia for permanent residence from the damned West, taking with them their capital and family at the same time. They’ll throw their Nice, Alps, Monaki and other Tahiti with Fiji to hell and rush to Russian Siberia and the Far North, where they need to heat and light production areas for 8-10 months a year, but they also need to be built. Where there are no roads and normal communications, where “only by plane (helicopter) you can fly”, where are vultures and mosquitoes, where in the winter the jet (yeah, the same one!) Freezes until it reaches the ground, where swamps are the size of a European country, etc. .
        More than once the "overlords" of this world have indicated the sun-like place in the corner on the rug, as a maximum - on the side-chair and obeyed the "elders", remember, at least an attempt to buy an "Opel": the Land Rover was sold to the Indians, and to us " Opel "- figurines. And so in everything! We just don’t know much, because - democracy. The electorate is not supposed to know much, state secret! It’s your business to “choose” the president, and now, get out, he knows what to give to Abramovich, and what to the Rotenbergs, Berl-Lazar will tell you if that. After all, he expressed a wish that in Crimea it is urgent to build as many synagogues as possible.

        PS:
        I remember that the president once personally said that having entered the WTO, we will begin to live better, that the grub and cars will become cheaper, that we will almost skate in oil like cheese. So how is it?
        The words and deeds of the Radiant diverge, however, only not for his inner circle. And the people - and to hell with him, we populate a Russian from Uzbeks and Chinese. After all, Russia needs migrants, Putin himself has repeatedly said. About 15 million are already tons and another 15 million are required: a total of -30 million in addition to the population of Russia.
        Want a secret? Only to anyone! Huh?
        There is such an international situation: if 60% or more of the titular (state-forming) nation lives in the country, then the state is considered mono-ethnic. Well, then yourself.
        A bit of paranoia for dessert:
        1. antoXa 9 November 2015 18: 05 New
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          bastard
          so what did you want to say with all this? What is the country on the genus in it
          the conclusion from your words is only that which begs it, do not write as much next time ...
          1. bastard 9 November 2015 18: 54 New
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            Quote: antoXa
            bastard
            so what did you want to say with all this? What is the country on the genus in it

            But this, just, I did not want to say. But the patience of our people, I never cease to be amazed, although I myself am so.
            Our country is the most beautiful, I would think as you write, I would have fallen for a long time. You were mistaken, it’s not about the country that I write, but about a small group of scoundrels who have seized power and money, who do not care about the fate of my country. I wish you good health! hi
    2. alicante11 9 November 2015 15: 14 New
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      This is essentially a concession. In appearance it looks like a buyout for China's support for recent events. The population is rubbed on the ears that everything is supposedly good, everything is fine.


      I wonder if you read the article? After all, it is written in black and white. OJSC will be with 100% budget financing. And to attract the Chinese to work is possible and necessary. We are sorely lacking qualified specialists in workers' specialties. See no job postings. At the same time, difficulties in the work of engineers. Therefore, if our engineers are put over the Chinese workers, this will be a good way out in the industrial breakthrough of the Far East. True, it seems that it has been more than a year since the TOP in Khabarovsk was announced. It seems that even near the airport they started to do something, they demolished almost the entire forest planting between the airport and the Matveevskoye highway, but in the summer everything somehow died out. The only profit, now how to go home, you can admire the planes directly from the window of the car or trolley / minibus.
      1. bastard 9 November 2015 18: 21 New
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        Quote: alicante11
        We are sorely lacking qualified specialists in workers' specialties.

        We have enough specialist workers, however, age from 40 onwards. They do not take to work, because, they say, age. Like, the young are not controlled. True, then they call me some time to work, when the youngsters cut the marriage, it is necessary to correct it. This is where they come running, they promise the golden mountains, and after swaying they will take the money, they swam, we know. My profession is a turner, I can work on other metal cutting machines, I can cook-solder-tin, there are crusts of an electrician and a driver of mobile power plants, I understand the repair of automobile units, because I’m a machine tool. We in the USSR had where, what and from whom to learn. Within 3 hours, I can call 40-50 of the same professional workers with related professions who can work on ancient machines broken in the trash without CNC, but the question of remuneration and the organization of a workplace is very expensive, money farmers are sorry even for that, not to mention the salary.
        From the experience of personal life:
        At the end of 2007, when my little mechanic workshop collapsed, I went to have a rest at the traders, sat on their old, gouged "Gazelle" with a booth carburetor-gas-gasoline to load-deliver products to stalls and shops. The car was of the type after an overhaul of the engine in the company service station, but ate gas more than 30l / 100. I tidied up the gas equipment, shook the half-engine, adjusted everything, screwed on the calipers of the front brakes (they were just inserted without bolts!), It became like a watch. Gas consumption fell to 14-15 liters in the city, if the sneaker is not on the floor.
        On the payday, the director said:
        - Well, see, Sergey Nikolaevich, in addition to your salary of 8000, we have also been awarded a prize of as much as 500 rubles. We have another car there, is there any desire to fix it? The firm pays.

        I hope everyone understands in which direction she needed to go.

        Quote: alicante11
        Therefore, if our engineers are put over the Chinese workers, this will be a good way out in the industrial breakthrough of the Far East.

        Not all engineers speak Chinese, and working with them through an interpreter will be difficult. At our factory, the Vietnamese "worked" through an interpreter, communized copper, lumin, contact groups from starters, e-mail. motors (even 50-70 kW!), in general, everything that is possible and not possible. Nearby, the Poles were building something, but they didn’t build it, we still don’t understand what. For three years, only a grader leveled the area of ​​200 x 500 m. They also only stole, bummed and bought our "uncompetitive" products in stores and bases. But ambition and arrogance - more than enough.
        Let the pig sit at the table, as they say.
        Quote: alicante11
        True, it seems that it has been more than a year since the TOP in Khabarovsk was announced.

        Wow! Progress Popper! laughing
        Quote: alicante11
        It seems that even near the airport they started to do something, they demolished almost the entire forest planting between the airport and the Matveevskoye highway, but in the summer everything somehow died out.

        So it will continue until there is something to cut or export (to steal, that is)
        Sorry if in places it was too incorrect and harsh in the statements. hi
  2. CONTROL 9 November 2015 08: 18 New
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    Yes, good!
    None of the documents found confirmation that the land and enterprises will be developed at the expense of certain foreign investors
    But this is in vain! Because - from the experience of "communication" - At the expense of the federal budget: doubtful ...the budget of the subject of the Russian Federation and local budgets: even more doubtful! And here extrabudgetary funding sources - it sounds more realistic, and it’s verified in life! And to make sure that they do not spoil and scound "with predatory squandering ..." - this is in the Law that must be present! But you can “ravage” any budget, at least federal, at least local — there is experience ... But “off-budget” - read, my personal grandmothers - perhaps only in the amount of “hospitality expenses in the form of small bribes to large and medium bribe-takers ... under pain of "publishing" in the form of an attached bonus ...
  3. Begemot 9 November 2015 08: 44 New
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    He put a plus to the article, but, for me, the adoption of the law on ASEZs is noteworthy from the point of view that the state thereby indirectly recognized: within the framework of existing legislation, development in the country is impossible, otherwise there would be no need to introduce a rule on the suspension of legislation in the territories of the Republic of Lithuania. In my opinion, all of Russia should be a territory of priority development, we have everything for this. A deep revision of the legislation and a change in the liberal official-oligarchic model of the economy are needed.
    1. bastard 9 November 2015 11: 09 New
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      Quote: Begemot
      for me, the adoption of the law on ASEZs is noteworthy from the point of view that the state thereby indirectly recognized: within the framework of existing legislation, development in the country is impossible,

      And for me, the adoption of the law on the ASEZs signed the existing power of complete inability and unwillingness to manage a huge country and wisely dispose of its wealth and resources.
      For some reason, the authorities decided that everything had to be urgently sold: oil, gas, timber, etc., then we would wait! And what will we leave to our descendants from what our ancestors left to us? In the words of the hated Putin and the liberal government, JV Stalin: "To trade the bowels of the earth - to trade the Motherland!"
      1. alicante11 9 November 2015 15: 18 New
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        For some reason, the government decided that everything had to be urgently sold: oil, gas, timber, etc.,


        I wonder what minerals found in the Khabarovsk TOP? Or do you mean that the reduced forest belt was sent for export to China? So there is no commercial wood.
        1. bastard 9 November 2015 16: 29 New
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          Quote: alicante11
          I wonder what minerals found in the Khabarovsk TOP?

          And only Khabarovsk went under the TOR?

          The state of the mineral resource base of the Khabarovsk Territory:

          Khabarovsk Territory is one of the largest regions of Russia in terms of potential mineral resources. Profiling for the economy of the region are alluvial deposits of gold and platinum, deposits of ore gold, tin, alunite, hard coal and brown coal. There are prerequisites for identifying unique and large deposits of complex apatite-ilmenite-titanomagnetite vanadium-containing ores, nickel, cobalt, copper, iron, manganese, alunite, zircon. The areas promising for rare earths, tungsten, platinum group minerals, oil and gas have been identified.

          details here:
          http://www.tvernedra.ru/news/nid182.html
          1. alicante11 10 November 2015 14: 33 New
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            The state of the mineral resource base of the Khabarovsk Territory:


            Dear, I’m talking about the Khabarovsk TOER. There are several of them in the region and they are all listed in the article, mainly infrastructure projects. Therefore, I asked you what minerals were found near the Khabarovsk airport. This is a specific place of the TOER
  4. dokusib 9 November 2015 09: 29 New
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    I live in the Irkutsk region. I did not know that from Shelekhov and Baikalsk they made TORs. But the fact that there are cities with a slightly more deplorable state of social and economic development is beyond doubt. Although yes, BPPM in Baikalsk was closed. The Shelekhov aluminum plant seems to be doing something.
  5. Samarin 9 November 2015 09: 29 New
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    dispensed with shouting about "Russia was sold to the Chinese" and the like.

    Yes, they didn’t “sell it”, but they give it away for nothing.
  6. Hort 9 November 2015 10: 01 New
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    So the TORs are not an attempt to surrender Siberia and the Far East to anyone,

    The Chinese "farmers" feel fine even outside the TOPs - in Western Siberia they cut the same birch only on the way.
    Well, the environmental consequences of the activities of rice farmers can no longer be remembered - probably with two volumes of “War and Peace” there will be articles
  7. Belousov 9 November 2015 12: 04 New
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    Considering Article 4: "Article 4. Financial support for the deployment of infrastructure objects of the territory of advanced socio-economic development

    1. Financial support for the placement of infrastructure facilities of the territory of priority social and economic development is carried out at the expense of the federal budget, the budget of the subject of the Russian Federation and local budgets, as well as extrabudgetary sources of financing.
    "we see another sawing project. They will definitely build for the federal and regional budgets, and they will use, receive and withdraw profits completely different. As well as always with us. Unfortunately ... angry
    1. NIKNN 9 November 2015 19: 33 New
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      Belousov SU Today, 12:04 PM

      we see another sawing project. They will definitely be built for the federal and regional budgets, while others will use, receive and withdraw profits. As well as always with us. Sorry ... angry


      I completely agree, I tried to formulate it myself, I couldn’t remember the word “cut” (by the end of the working day my head was not cooking well repeat ) belay
  8. rkkasa xnumx 9 November 2015 12: 11 New
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    Beringovsky (specialization - mining) will be created in the group of coal deposits in the Anadyr region and Anadyr, Chukotka Autonomous Okrug. The area of ​​the ASEZ will be almost 6 thousand hectares. Will be organized 450 jobs. It is expected to process up to 50 million cubic meters. m of gas to diesel fuel and gasoline, which will meet the energy needs of the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug and abandon the Northern delivery of petroleum products. (C)

    Even if all jobs were created only in the coal industry, then 450 people are just one mine. Not the largest. And was it worth in Anadyr because of this to fence the garden with this TOR-shmor?
    Again, why do we need foreigners to develop our territories? For some reason, the USSR had enough funds for this, but Russia does not.
  9. Vladimir 1964 9 November 2015 12: 44 New
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    How the Chinese “come and take everything”, to be honest, in the light of the law is absolutely not clear. In order that, in accordance with the words of Myamlin, the Chinese would be able to get what is given to the companies participating in the TOP, 100% owned by the Russian Federation, China should at least become a subject of the Russian Federation. And this, as you know, from the field of jokes.


    In our country, unfortunately, the concept of "in the light of the law" refers to the category of "from the field of anecdote." And this applies to any topic, and not just to TOR.

    Something like this, life shows, Dear colleagues. hi
  10. KUOLEMA 9 November 2015 12: 49 New
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    When I hear the words- slogans of nanotechnology innovation Toera and stuff I feel somewhere people want it again .. In short, to deceive
  11. chunga-changa 9 November 2015 13: 00 New
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    It’s cool if you call the surrender of territories “Territory of Advance Development”, then it’s kind of cool. If you call Chubais scams - privatization, then everything seems to be legal. And there is still a lot of wonderful names - Nanoskolkovopark, and now no one is surprised by the bottomless barrel where the money goes, and at the output there are only "lectures" of master-sawmill-traitors for hundreds of thousands of cu The cut of the unified energy system in 2008 was called a reorganization, everyone swallowed. Wangyu, surrender of the islands of Japan will be called - "finally, the long-awaited peace treaty, the absence of which prevented the development of full-fledged good neighborly relations between our countries, has overcome!", The people will say - "Hooray! Now we will live!". I wonder how the section of Russia will be called, what would the people like?
  12. yuriy55 9 November 2015 14: 23 New
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    There are many different names. Do you want - TOP, Do you want - TOER, you can - TAUER. True, there is a certain problem in those who want to go to the TOPs. I remember how a cry was thrown for the development of the Far East, and young girls and children went from all the republics of the Soviet Union. We went on Komsomol trips, went and just like that. Now, in our time, are there forces capable of raising, leading and leading? ... Call me.
    So it turns out that the development of our lands in the east will begin with the help of the Chinese brothers. Maybe someone has doubts? Do not hesitate, this is a well-known fact ... what

    One thing can be said, the Russians will not want to go to the TAUER Auger, or rather, not everyone will want to, or rather, not everyone will be able to ... hi
  13. Xarza17 9 November 2015 16: 13 New
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    In our country there are many people with working specialties. Why attract foreigners when you can just start paying workers normally. Make an average salary of 70-80 thousand and people will go to work! I am an electric welder of the 5th category, at home I can’t find a job with normal pay. A salary of 20 thousand is offered. In the north. A kilogram of sugar here costs 69 rubles, a dozen eggs cost 80, normal bread 40. Electricity 3.10 kilowatts. A gasoline costs 40.30 per liter 95. You also have to pay for an apartment, buy clothes. Well, something like this. But if we take a lot of Chinese to work in the TOER, what will be better from this?
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    dmb 9 November 2015 16: 41 New
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    "I love our plans of the hulk, the span of the steps is sazheni ...", - but these verses of Mayakovsky had a real incarnation. But now the "beautiful plan" is a matter of wariness. We already had free economic zones that were supposed to develop something there. One of them is Ingushetia. It is still true that huge sums from the budget are being poured into it, and it remains one of the most subsidized and first in unemployment. Especially happy for Yakutia, where 13 factories will give as many 350 jobs. These are industrial giants, where to Magnitogorsk.
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    Article 17. The special legal regime for entrepreneurial and other activities in the territory of advanced social and economic development provides: preferential rental rates (clause 2), priority connection to infrastructures (clause 5), exemption from customs duties (clause 7) , exemption from property tax and land tax (paragraph 8).

    Those. The Russian budget gets almost nothing (especially, taking into account the additions that we indicated below).

    Article 18 is very camouflaged, in relation to the original (government) version of the law (see Article 20), it is written that “the specifics of the labor activity of persons working for residents of territories of priority social and economic development are established by the Labor Code of the Russian Federation”. Those. at first glance, "everything is fine." However, in this case, the Federal Law of December 31.12.2014, 519 No. XNUMX-ФЗ “On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation in Connection with the Adoption of the Federal Law“ On Territories of Advancement of Socio-Economic Development in the Russian Federation ””, established that:
    "...
    1) obtaining permits to attract and use foreign workers is not required;

    2) a work permit to a foreign citizen involved in work activities by a resident of the territory of advanced social and economic development is issued without taking into account quotas for issuing invitations to foreign citizens to enter the Russian Federation for the purpose of labor activity, as well as issuing work permits to foreign citizens established by the Government of the Russian Federation in accordance with the law ... "

    (Now all of China, in full force, can freely move to Siberia and the Far East)

    Those. the original government version was simply "smeared" according to two laws, so that without a meticulous check ...

    http://3rm.info/publications/54060-u-rossii-ukrali-sibir-i-dalniy-vostok.html
  16. Reptiloid 9 November 2015 19: 26 New
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    I can’t tell you how upset I was, although I didn’t catch up on a lot of things on this topic. I often look online at the village where I lived before school. All the same. The same house-barracks. The same store was manufactured, the only one. There, the Chinese occupied everything. The Russians were complaining. I don’t know if the Japanese are poaching now? It used to be.
    Khabarovsk, if on the network, of course became more interesting.
  17. hitech 9 November 2015 19: 49 New
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    TOR is a great attraction for couch political scientists who were not even in Khabar. They didn’t feel the people there, they didn’t try the local climate, but they talk enthusiastically about what they have no idea.
  18. hitech 9 November 2015 19: 55 New
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    In Chita, the Chinas developed well too, they took away the forest by trains, they fertile land under zero, they do not spare chemicals for vegetables ... I read such breathtaking articles by local optimists and a mean man’s tear well. When will we start to organize something ourselves and hand out pendals to your lazy people? We are all waiting for when they will do everything for us?
  19. Shpagolom 10 November 2015 18: 15 New
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    Quote: hitech
    In Chita, the Chinas developed well too, they took away the forest by trains, they fertile land under zero, they do not spare chemicals for vegetables ... I read such breathtaking articles by local optimists and a mean man’s tear well. When will we start to organize something ourselves and hand out pendals to your lazy people? We are all waiting for when they will do everything for us?

    .... we lazy people are with you, and pendals should be given to the “leaders” for the fact that there are no places in the country for enterprising and willing to work!
  20. ivmihk 11 November 2015 18: 11 New
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    It is necessary to save the regions primarily from the current government, which over the past 15 years has led them to decline, while having unlimited opportunities for their development without any “special” laws. We do not and cannot have guarantees that this power, which failed to develop anything in the previous history, will finally correctly dispose of the additional powers taken by it itself.
  21. _GSVG_ 15 November 2015 23: 55 New
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    The Chinese are already in Primorye, demanding seats in elected bodies, in local councils, issuing a newspaper in Chinese, demanding TV in Chinese - at the expense of the natural budget of the Russian Federation, and there they will pretend for elections to governors and mayors.
    6.000 of jobs is far from a fact, as Skomorokhov is iridescently pouring in here, that these will be jobs for Russian citizens. And the harsh realities claim just the opposite - everything will be there for the Chinese, there is an opinion that the fires in Khakassia were not random at all.
    A simple example, several. it was shown on TV years ago, a paper mill or a wood mill, I don’t remember, I bought a china machine, orders suddenly somehow suddenly disappeared, salaries didn’t go away either, people were told to quit, the company went bankrupt. You need to eat, you need to support your family, people were looking for another job. As soon as they got rid of local citizens, so orders appeared and the Chinese appeared at the plant, and the work began to boil. People turned to the prosecutor’s office, answered - the owner is not a citizen of the Russian Federation, but the city of China, we can’t help anything, he is in China. I don’t know how it ended.
    Here is such a special case of TOER at one separate enterprise, even before the appearance of that same toeur.
    They gave licenses for deforestation, so they then grabbed their heads, plots became visible from space.
    Then it will be like in a fairy tale - even worse.