The coming bankruptcy of America ("The American Conservative", USA)

The coming bankruptcy of America ("The American Conservative", USA)“Have the good times ever ended?” Merle Haggard complained in 1982 year in his song.


It turned out not forever. As a matter of fact, at that moment they were already returning - in the near future we were expected by Reaganomics, the revival of the American spirit and the end of the Cold War that devoured our lives. However, whoever wins the election now, demographic and economic realities do not give us grounds for optimism.

Between 1946 and 1964, 79 was born over a million people. It was the largest, most educated and most successful generation in stories America. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, born in 1946, belong to its first wave.

What is the problem? Imagine that 75 millions of these 79 live to 66 years. This means that almost 2030 million baby boomers will retire annually from 4 to retire. That is, over the next 18 years, 11 millions of new retirees from this generation will be able to qualify for Medicare and social security programs.

Add to this the immigrants from the same age category, note that the boomers live longer than the “Great Generation” and the “Silent Generation”, and we will get an early and inevitable increase in spending on large social programs.

To provide retirees with the promised medical care, they will have to reduce payments and benefits and raise taxes. In addition, for the fourth time in a row, we are confronted with a deficit of almost four trillion of our budget in excess of 1 trillion dollars. To balance such a budget without reducing spending on defense and social programs will not work.

Everywhere — in California, in Wisconsin, in New York — we see the same process at the state level. The authorities freeze salaries, reduce pensions, cancel projects. California and Illinois are on the verge of default. Cities like Detroit, Birmingham, Stockton and San Bernardino have already crossed this line.

If we talk about national defense, then the question is, how long can we afford to spend more on it than the next ten countries combined? And how long can we continue to defend the many countries that are half a world away from us? How many more wars worth trillions of dollars, such as Iraq and Afghanistan, can we carry on borrowed money?

Moreover, the era of large national projects for us is over.

Franklin Roosevelt had New Deal and World War II, Eisenhower had road construction, Kennedy had a space program, Lyndon Johnson had Great Society, Reagan had military buildup and tax cuts, Bush had two wars and again taxes, Obama - Obamacare. However, we have no more money for such things. Only debts and deficits stretch to the horizon.

Europe is already where we are heading. In the south of the Old World - in Spain, Italy and Greece - the policy of economy begins to threaten public order. The countries of the north of Europe, in turn, no longer want to pay for other people's social guarantees.

Different levels of government in the United States spend 40% of GDP, while taxes account for only 30%. This means that it is necessary to raise taxes and cut government spending. The only alternative to this is to destroy the debt by depreciating the dollars in which it is nominated with the help of organized inflation by the Fed.

However, you can only rob your creditors once. After that, no one else will give you a loan.


There is one more circumstance that is rarely talked about. Workers replacing baby boomers largely belong to minorities. Blacks and Hispanics now make up 30% of the population, and their share continues to grow rapidly.

In many cities, the number of out-of-school minorities of these two minorities is close to 50%, and for many of those who are still graduating, math, reading, and natural sciences remain at the seventh, eighth or ninth grade. Can they make the same contribution to the modern economy as the baby boomers who showed the best results in the history of the country on the entrance tests in the 1960 and 1970's? In a global perspective, our academic performance is heading towards the level of the Third World.
Now everyone is talking about how to improve the test results. However, despite the record and continuing growth in investment in education in terms of each student, no one yet knows how to achieve this.

In addition, if boomers were mainly born in families in which the father and mother were married and lived together, in the Latin American environment, the extramarital birth rate is 53%, and in the African American environment - 73%.

Among the white poor and workers, he has now reached 40% - that is, almost twice the level of black America in 1965, in which Pat Moynihan published his report on the crisis of the black family. There is an obvious correlation between the extra-marital birth rate and the rates of drug use, non-attendance of school, crime and jailing.

Some of us are often accused of the fact that, like a shepherd from a fairy tale, we shout all the time: “Wolves, wolves!” But you should not forget that one day the wolves did come.

Patrick Buchanan is the author of the book The Greatest Return: How Richard Nixon rose after defeat and created a new majority (The Greatest Comeback: How to Get Risen).
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  1. Vend 6 November 2015 14: 46 New
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    So already I want to see US bankruptcy
    1. maxiban 6 November 2015 14: 53 New
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      They will not go bankrupt until the whole world stops paying their expenses.
      1. djqnbdjqnb 6 November 2015 14: 58 New
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        Quote: maxiban
        They will not go bankrupt until the whole world stops paying their expenses.

        Everything comes in due time. "The time to throw stones, and the time to collect stones; the time to hug, and the time to evade hugs."
        Just have to wait.
        1. Marxist 6 November 2015 15: 47 New
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          So already I want to see US bankruptcy

          Why do you doubt that the Fed will continue to finance the US public debt?
          until the whole world stops paying their expenses.

          And for this, it is necessary to exclude the dollar from world mutual settlements.
          Only here, work in this direction is moving very, very weakly, and in this form is more like an attempt by China to turn the yuan into a world reserve currency, and in the light of the TPP and TAP this is generally very unlikely in the short term (15-20 years) historical perspective.
          Just have to wait

          I first heard about the "imminent collapse of the United States in 1960, about" unsecured candy wrappers "- somewhere in 1998.
          Since then, we have been waiting for everything. hi
          1. Blondy 6 November 2015 15: 58 New
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            Quote: Marxist
            I first heard about the "imminent collapse of the United States in 1960, about" unsecured candy wrappers "- somewhere in 1998.
            Since then, we have been waiting for everything.

            In-in, Everyone goes bankrupt: spread chaos throughout Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, Central Asia, set the West on Russia - they sit in a puddle and learn to live, but everyone is waiting for a crisis
          2. iConst 6 November 2015 16: 11 New
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            Quote: Marxist
            Why do you doubt that the Fed will continue to finance the US public debt?

            - It seems no one doubts. Only even the stubborn ones begin to understand that paper, if valuable, must be provided with something very weighty and guaranteed.

            The United States passed a law that a bank can issue loans at 10% security for assets.
            Those. Investors brought 500 million plus 500 million from the bank - assets of 1 (one) billion, and it can issue as much as 10 (ten) billion. Where does he get the rest? That's right - he is given the Fed, which prints the dollar. These are domestic debts.

            And now the Fed is issuing government debt obligations - treasurer. At a percentage. And interest is paid ... again, printing dollars. And the emitted dollars, so that there is no excess, will be utilized ... releasing the same treasurer ...

            Everything is fine until someone decides that he is tired of treasure and he wants something substantial in return. And throws their treasure in the market.

            And if these “someone” will be a couple or three, but a dozen or two will be thrown ... not not millions - billions. And they will do it time after time. What will happen?
            That's right - on the exchanges, the yield of treasuries will grow many times over. But then panic may begin - they will begin to get rid of them.

            On the one hand, this is good for the Fed: take yes and redeem obligations for half the price, but the trouble is that there are already too many of them - not even the USA can pull!
            1. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 40 New
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              Quote: iConst
              Only even the stubborn ones begin to understand that paper, if valuable, must be provided with something very weighty and guaranteed.

              What are the analogues of such "papers" in the modern world.
              1. iConst 6 November 2015 16: 46 New
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                Quote: iConst
                Only even the stubborn ones begin to understand that paper, if valuable, must be provided with something very weighty and guaranteed.

                What are the analogues of such "papers" in the modern world.

                - FAQ? belay
                1. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 52 New
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                  What?

                  What are the analogues of such "papers" - secured by something very weighty and guaranteed.
                  1. iConst 6 November 2015 17: 46 New
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                    Quote: iConst
                    What?

                    What are the analogues of such "papers" - secured by something very weighty and guaranteed.

                    - Zafiga? What are we getting at?

                    Let's go from the opposite: security should not have a high level of trust. So?
                    Help: "weighty and guaranteed" - I have this analogue of the degree of trust.

                    We’ll return: I don’t understand - what “analogues” do you want? And why is the "paper" in quotation marks?

                    You, I feel, are going to unleash a "chilosophical" discussion on the topic of comparing violet and perpendicular, which is pure trolling.
                    1. Down House 6 November 2015 18: 46 New
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                      You, I feel, are going to unleash a "chilosophical" discussion

                      No.
                      It’s just that usually critics of the “unsupported” dollar are nostalgic for the Tsar’s gold ruble - the era of such currencies has passed.
            2. Uncle Joe 6 November 2015 22: 16 New
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              Quote: iConst
              The US passed a law that a bank can issue loans at 10% security of assets
              A reference to the law, please.

              Where does he get the rest? That's right - the Fed gives him
              The Fed gives money from deposit accounts, and the rate at which the Fed lends to banks is the overnight rate.

              which prints the dollar
              The dollar is being printed by the US Treasury Bureau of Engraving and Printing.
          3. dauria 6 November 2015 16: 11 New
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            Imagine that 75 million of these 79 will live to be 66 years old.



            How lucky our to the government laughing
            Do we and half of men reach 60? But just in case, it is necessary to increase the retirement age ... you see, women, what they thought up, survive to retirement. Freeloaders, damn it ...
          4. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 38 New
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            And for this, it is necessary to exclude the dollar from world mutual settlements.

            And this is not enough, it is still necessary to decide in parallel where to put all the product that tomorrow can not be sold for dollars.
          5. gladcu2 6 November 2015 17: 29 New
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            Marxist

            Turn the yuan into the main world currency!

            Let's grow a new hegmon with a human slanted face. Or do you think that Chinese bankers have the mind and honor of our era.
          6. Uncle Joe 6 November 2015 22: 03 New
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            Quote: Marxist
            I first heard about the "imminent collapse of the United States in 1960, about" unsecured candy wrappers "- somewhere in 1998.
            What is most interesting - neither in the 60s, nor in the 40s, nor in the 20s, despite all the anti-capitalist and anti-Western propaganda, it never occurred to anyone to call the dollar an unsecured candy wrapper, and the Fed a private shop financing American debt ...
          7. Weyland 7 November 2015 02: 29 New
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            Quote: Marxist
            I first heard about the “imminent collapse of the United States” in 1960, about the “unsecured candy wrappers” - somewhere in 1998. Since then, we have been waiting for everything


            Only 38 years old? It’s a lot for you, but for statesbut ... How did one of the Chinese politicians about the French Revolution say: "too little time has passed to draw conclusions!"
        2. unsinkable 6 November 2015 17: 33 New
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          Quote: djqnbdjqnb
          Just have to wait.

          I began to wait young. Now I am a pensioner. I’m waiting. And so the whole world. And only some countries (which I’ve miscalculated once or twice) are taking sluggish measures to counter the dollar.
      2. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 37 New
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        They will not go bankrupt until the whole world stops paying their expenses.

        True, but here we must understand that their expenses are not paid, but they are provided - this is a large market for many countries to live on, and that even in the event of bankruptcy it will not mean the end of the United States as a state - ordinary Americans will become poorer than they are today .
      3. GSH-18 7 November 2015 02: 08 New
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        Quote: maxiban
        They will not go bankrupt until the whole world stops paying their expenses.

        That's right. While the whole world uses the dollar in their mutual settlements. Americans will have a percentage of the transaction for using their currency - this is how it works in global finance.
      4. Ivan Slavyanin 7 November 2015 03: 19 New
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        The project "United States of America" ​​is closed already. Everything is being transported to Hong Kong! The Rothschilds gold has already been transported to banks in Hong Kong.
    2. iConst 6 November 2015 15: 02 New
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      Quote: Wend
      So already I want to see US bankruptcy

      Here's the topic: http://topwar.ru/85738-spasenie-ssha-okno-vozmozhnostey.html
    3. evgenii67 6 November 2015 15: 17 New
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      Quote: Wend
      So already I want to see US bankruptcy

      oh, good already. Instead of dreaming about the collapse of a foreign economy (and the economy of the whole world will suffer in this case), think about your economy in the current realities
    4. atalef 6 November 2015 15: 47 New
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      Quote: Wend
      So already I want to see US bankruptcy

      yes, here in this article, everything is described in detail
      Recently, German economist Paul Fritz published a book in Munich on the dollar and American egoism. In it, Fritz writes that in spite of the disappearance of the danger of a possible war between the two superpowers, mankind is in danger of a new kind. An increase in the world's population, climate change, and potential environmental disasters all pose a threat to humanity. But these are only visible factors. Humanity is at even greater risk, albeit hidden, from an exponential increase in government debt. When it comes to this, associations usually arise with Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, and the Third World in general. But in fact, the country with the largest debt on the planet is the United States of America. If the American economy one day collapses under the burden of its astronomical debt, the whole world will be plunged into disaster. Already in 1988, the American state, its enterprises and consumers accumulated global debt of $ 11 billion. It is impossible even theoretically to cover, based only on the production of specific goods. It follows that the United States is a prisoner of spiral growth in debt and debt interest. Paul Fritz believes that the US economy is in a cage whose walls are constantly narrowing, and that from now on it is no longer necessary to talk about the "inexhaustible vitality" of the United States. Those who still believe in this myth absolutely do not understand the real functioning of the mechanisms on which the world economy has been based for the past two or three decades. If the flow of capital to the United States is slowed down, if, for example, Japan or the oil emirs enter the phase of the economic crisis and stop investing their dollars for the Atlantic, America will instantly cease to be a great power. Worse, she risks drawing many other countries and peoples into the crater of the crisis. Perhaps only then the Americanophiles will realize that they made the wrong bet and that the fetishization of the dollar was only a disturbing illusion.

      http://arcto.ru/article/491
      ONLY ARTICLE, 2000 laughing
      There is certainly fresher
      The collapse of the dollar and the American economy in 2015. Probability and the main most real scenarios - See more at: http://utmagazine.ru/posts/6018-krah-dollara-i-amerikanskoy-ekonomiki-v-2015g-ve

      royatnost-i-osnovnye-naibolee-realnye-scenarii # sthash.rJXeHyDC.dpuf

      Well, of course I understand, there are 2 more months, but this was supposed to happen
      2010
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      2011
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHFv97sz9g8
      2012
      http://rutube.ru/video/b36314e47f8e37de76fcbe9a4df27ae4/
      2013
      http://politikus.ru/video/3090-razvalivayuschie-shtaty-ameriki-krah-ssha-v-2013-

      godu.html
      2014
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXei3QxK9k
      Interestingly, there are already forecasts for 2016 laughing
      1. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 43 New
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        Already in 1988, the American state, its enterprises and consumers accumulated global debt of $ 11 billion.

        These are "virtual" debts. The most “joke” is that no one will ask them from them.
        1. atalef 6 November 2015 22: 28 New
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          These are "virtual" debts. The most “joke” is that no one will ask them from them

          These debts are not virtual. Interest on them is paid with real money.
          1. Down House 7 November 2015 00: 41 New
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            Quote: atalef
            These debts are not virtual. Interest on them is paid with real money.

            I was not interested in who and how and when and to whom he pays what, but in the modern world everyone owes to someone and something.
            The main thing is that the United States is not a leader in debt neither in percentage of GDP nor in size per capita.
    5. Your friend 6 November 2015 16: 26 New
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      Quote: Wend
      So already I want to see US bankruptcy

      If the USA declares itself bankrupt, it will bury the world economy for a long year (China will fall for the USA, and the rest will catch up there). In particular, the price of oil will collapse so that today's times with low prices of $ 40-50 will be remembered as times of happiness and abundance. Recall how the past drop in oil prices has affected Russia?
      1. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 45 New
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        China will fall for the USA, and there the rest will catch up

        Nobody will fall, the unemployment rate will simply increase sharply and the standard of living will drop. But the global financial "elite" will not allow this - they live off the "US debt."
        1. Your friend 6 November 2015 16: 52 New
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          Quote: Your friend
          China will fall for the USA, and there the rest will catch up

          Nobody will fall, the unemployment rate will simply increase sharply and the standard of living will drop. But the global financial "elite" will not allow this - they live off the "US debt."

          No one will fall
          odd somehow contradicts
          living standards will fall
          )
          Even as they fall, world trade for many years in significant proportions will disappear as a phenomenon, and after that the economies of all economically developed countries will fall.
          1. Down House 6 November 2015 17: 11 New
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            odd somehow contradicts

            Nothing contradicts.
            You just need to understand what a modern "economy" is.
            But we must understand that we live in an era of overpopulation, overproduction, overconsumption.
            This "re" in the case of "bankruptcy" the United States will have to be deleted, but the real economy of balanced production-consumption (as in the USSR) will remain.
            More precisely, hundreds of millions of “hamsters” (or a belt is tightened) involved in the fields of “consumption” will die out - but this will not hit either science, defense industry, or sovereignty, or the integrity of states.
            1. Your friend 6 November 2015 17: 17 New
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              Quote: Down House
              Quote: Your friend
              odd somehow contradicts

              Nothing contradicts.
              You just need to understand what a modern "economy" is.
              But we must understand that we live in an era of overpopulation, overproduction, overconsumption.
              This "re" in the case of "bankruptcy" the United States will have to be deleted, but the real economy of balanced production-consumption (as in the USSR) will remain.
              More precisely, hundreds of millions of “hamsters” (or a belt is tightened) involved in the fields of “consumption” will die out - but this will not hit either science, defense industry, or sovereignty, or the integrity of states.


              Well, yes, indeed, the death of hundreds of millions of “hamsters” YOURSELF will not affect in any way neither sovereignty, nor integrity, nor science ....
              1. Down House 6 November 2015 19: 08 New
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                YOURSELF WILL NOT AFFECT NEITHER SOVEREIGNTY, OR INTEGRITY, OR SCIENCE

                Yes.
                It will not affect you at all, if only because 60-80% of the population of almost any more or less developed country is a "service sector" - it is a "ballast" serving itself.
                The only reason they exist is the very “duty” of the United States.
                Why? Explain for a long time, but it will be useful for you to find out that the US in terms of "debt" (as a percentage of GDP) is significantly inferior to many countries, but for some reason no one shouts that "they will fall apart tomorrow."
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                1. Your friend 6 November 2015 19: 30 New
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                  Quote: Your friend
                  YOURSELF WILL NOT AFFECT NEITHER SOVEREIGNTY, OR INTEGRITY, OR SCIENCE

                  Yes.
                  It will not affect you at all, if only because 60-80% of the population of almost any more or less developed country is a "service sector" - it is a "ballast" serving itself.
                  The only reason they exist is the very “duty” of the United States.
                  Why? Explain for a long time, but it will be useful for you to find out that the US in terms of "debt" (as a percentage of GDP) is significantly inferior to many countries, but for some reason no one shouts that "they will fall apart tomorrow."
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%


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                  Do you understand what you write? This "ballast" serves people working in the military-industrial complex in science, in apk ... this "ballast" consumes, but also produces "services". You at least read what is included in the scope of services, and do not smack nonsense about ballast. If you withdraw these people from the economy, as you write, then the economy will come to an end.
                  it will be useful for you to find out
                  Why is it useful for me to know? You write nonsense again. I never shouted that "they will fall apart tomorrow."
                  Additionally, the link does not work.
                  1. Down House 7 November 2015 00: 37 New
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                    This "ballast" serves people working in the military-industrial complex in science, in apk ... this "ballast" consumes, but also produces "services".

                    Yeah, for 10 people working in the military-industrial complex in the service sector.
                    I’m right and see how you go to the supermarket, and there are 10 cashiers per customer.
                    Therefore, it is not necessary to exaggerate that in an economy oriented towards real production-science in the "services sector" there will be less people guaranteed than in production.

                    Quote: Your friend
                    Additionally, the link does not work.

                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%
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                    1. Your friend 7 November 2015 00: 55 New
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                      Quote: Your friend
                      This "ballast" serves people working in the military-industrial complex in science, in apk ... this "ballast" consumes, but also produces "services".

                      Yeah, for 10 people working in the military-industrial complex in the service sector.
                      I’m right and see how you go to the supermarket, and there are 10 cashiers per customer.
                      Therefore, it is not necessary to exaggerate that in an economy oriented towards real production-science in the "services sector" there will be less people guaranteed than in production.

                      Quote: Your friend
                      Additionally, the link does not work.

                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%81%D1%82%


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                      You really do not understand what the service sector is. What cashiers, what are you talking about ??? So that your 1 employee does not get sick, we need doctors, so that we can rest, we need tourist services, so that the toilet flushes the water, we need housing and communal services workers, so that we can pay for each cell. Your employee VPK chatted on the phone, we need a cell. companies .... etc., etc. - and this is the whole "service sector" - "ballast"? Stop writing nonsense.
                      In the structure of the USSR’s GDP of the “real economy of balanced production-consumption”, the service sector was 40% - are they also “hamsters”?
                      And what should the external debt table tell me? In this table in Ukraine, external debt is 0 - such a good table.)
    6. gladcu2 6 November 2015 17: 25 New
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      Vend

      If I feel bad, it will be better if the cow dies at the neighbor.

      It’s a pity that Roosevelt was not enough for five years, then maybe Kennedy wasn’t killed. This means that this liberal ideology has not spread throughout the world.
      Now everything will be returned to normal.
    7. max702 6 November 2015 17: 55 New
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      Quote: Wend
      So already I want to see US bankruptcy

      This is not the worst, the main problem in the CAPITALIST SYSTEM itself! As long as there is someone to rob (it is not important with the help of force or credits) capitalism lives, BUT as soon as this feed base ends, all capitalism eats itself, and this is the very decline in the standard of living .. But still, it follows to a certain limit complete collapse and anarchy on the remnants of civilization .. We have come close to the beginning of the implementation of this scenario, and the accumulated technological knowledge and resources in the field of destroying the near chance of good development do not leave .. Yes, capitalism will stretch in one form or another for another 30-50 gulf the globe with blood and it may be a miracle by avoiding the nuclear fox, but anyway, the problem will again arise WHO TO LOOP? In part, to save the situation as it happened more than once before, it was a scientific and technological breakthrough, yes it was the iron and steam revolution in the 19th century, electricity and oil industry in the early 20th, electronics and nuclear fusion in the middle of the 20th .. And what can come now? Over the past 70 years, not a single one has been done! A fundamental discovery, I just finished off the old ones (all iPhones, computers, etc.) using new, more advanced tools .. Here we look at this situation, no one wants to return money to anyone, and therefore a fight has begun for something really tangible .. Let's say no one presses the buttons I didn’t sting and, using conventional means of warfare, did not organize a world arctic fox on planet earth, and the balance of power was less established as it was after the last major world crises such as the First World War and the Second World War. What then, even in such a blunt ideal case? It seems that they will stop fighting when there really is nothing and especially not with anyone, and on this basis, all industry in the ruins of science is in the same place, the population decreased by 1-200 times, and who and where will move technological progress to create what’s on its results something new and breakthrough? And let's not forget that planet Earth at this time will be in a very indecent form, in addition to general ruin, global environmental problems will be added, and such a banal thing as the availability of natural resources for the development of civilization can be forgotten! Today, in order to extract oil and gas, space-level technologies are needed, and given the mass slaughter, all the easily accessible sources that now exist will be destroyed! You don’t need to remember about metallurgy, electronics, the chemical, pharmacological industry .. You just figure the FULL technological chain of a commonplace thing like aspirin now? and here what to get the simplest one has to climb the line where everything was extracted and destroyed .. Will mankind have a chance or it will fall back to the level of today's monkeys after 300-200 years .. And the main source of capitalism is to blame, that is, a thirst for profit, and if just the desire to live at the expense of others!
      1. gladcu2 6 November 2015 18: 43 New
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        Maks702

        I applaud standing.

        Capitalism has only once shown a positive property. This is when he gave impetus to the development of manufacturing. And since then, capitalism has always tried to gobble up this production when it ended its next feed base in the form of colonies and predatory wars.

        But the modern name of capitalism is a liberal bourgeois idea. This is a way to disguise old crap with new nano technology.
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      I hope the next 3-5 years we will not see it.
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      It is unlikely that they have a machine tool, and the bucks are the world currency
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      I agree to see and show with a finger smile ..
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      Yeah
      - I also suffer from the question - will I live or not .. ???
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    1. iConst 6 November 2015 14: 56 New
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      They will not go bankrupt until the whole world stops paying their expenses.

      - It's cool, but the whole World can no longer pay their expenses.

      They have two ways: to draw the EU into the TATP (by analogy with the TTP), which will delay their collapse indefinitely or ... start a war ... There are no more resources.
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        - It's cool, but the whole World can no longer pay their expenses.

        USA will give him a loan))))
      2. gladcu2 6 November 2015 18: 11 New
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        GDP will not let them bend to the end. He simply creates the conditions under which the dull-witted power idiots in US structures will have to make those decisions to which he pushes them.

        The process is ongoing and success has been outlined. So, we need to stock up on popcorn and beer and watch when, in the first place, the number of minor conflicts decreases. Then the banknote countries will begin to level the economy.
  3. Altona 6 November 2015 14: 53 New
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    And I want to eat, and there is no one to rob ... Everything was stolen before us ...
  4. SALLAK 6 November 2015 15: 07 New
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    The entire financial system is vicious ... And it is only a matter of time before it collapses ... or is reborn ...
    1. gladcu2 6 November 2015 21: 07 New
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      The system is vicious.

      The problem is that 50% of users agree with this, while the rest are still using.

      And while the balance is maintained, it is necessary to save data from complete destruction until the system displays a blue screen.

      That’s why the US is supporting it until it’s fully understood.
  5. Sergey Sitnikov 6 November 2015 15: 12 New
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    404 doesn’t go bankrupt in any way, but here the USA ... again, everything is turned upside down and it turns out that it’s necessary (((
    1. Down House 6 November 2015 16: 48 New
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      404 doesn’t go bankrupt in any way, but here the USA ... again, everything is turned upside down and it turns out that it’s necessary

      I have long perceived articles about the "imminent bankruptcy of the United States" exclusively as a yellow press.
      The people who write this and say this have no idea that the “debt” of the United States and the “debt” of an ordinary citizen are completely different things.
  6. cniza 6 November 2015 15: 22 New
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    The entire financial system is vicious ... And it is only a matter of time before it collapses ... or is reborn ...



    Dialectics does not exist in any other way.
  7. Mikhail Krapivin 6 November 2015 15: 26 New
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    The fact that this will end is unconditional. The fact that the process will be long and painful is unequivocal. We will see for ourselves.
  8. TVM - 75 6 November 2015 15: 27 New
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    Turn out and set up the Germans. Mattresses are a country of bandits, liars and cheaters. Where are those puritans who stood at the origins? And how to combine all this with the extermination of the indigenous population? Turn out ....
  9. Denis DV 6 November 2015 15: 33 New
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    US bankruptcy is real. Who will manage this process?
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    Quote: Denis DV
    US bankruptcy is real. Who will manage this process?



    Good question, I think on the sidelines of the same BRICS, they are already condemning and charting ways of action.
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      Quote: cniza
      Quote: Denis DV
      US bankruptcy is real. Who will manage this process?



      Good question, I think on the sidelines of the same BRICS, they are already condemning and charting ways of action.

      BRICS steers laughing
      Citi chief economist William Boyter (formerly a member of the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee and EBRD chief economist) believes that the main reason for the worsening situation will be development problems in the BRICS countries, primarily in China.
      According to Boyter, the growth of the Chinese economy has actually slowed down to almost 4% (despite the fact that the expert considers the official data to be too high), instead of the target 7% for this year.
      China is not the only BRICS country to create problems for other states today. Negative factors for the global economy are the problems of countries such as Russia, Brazil and South Africa, against the backdrop of moderate economic growth in developed countries. The situation is aggravated by remaining low commodity prices. There are no special reasons for the rise in prices of raw materials, since economic development in the main consumer countries remains very weak.
      The fact that BRICS has not justified itself and today is becoming not a locomotive of world growth, but its brake as a whole is understandable. The unification of developing states could not appear on the world economic arena on one common front. The economies of Russia and South Africa have a big bias in the commodity direction, which means that in the near future we can’t talk about their leadership. China, despite its previous growth rates, has also long been in the downward phase of the development of its economy and its decline is only just beginning. In view of a number of different circumstances, the BRICS countries are losing to the West in the knowledge economy, which is almost the only driving force for development.
      Thus, there is reason to believe that the BRICS countries that are experiencing problems will only become the key to a more serious fall, this time of the entire global economy.

      In the Brix countries, everything is very bad (in the economy), I would say not just bad, but very bad.
      This is a fact. request
      1. iConst 6 November 2015 16: 25 New
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        In the Brix countries, everything is very bad (in the economy), I would say not just bad, but very bad.
        This is a fact.

        - Well, what does "very bad" mean? BRICS has problems in every single country in the financial field.
        The United States puts sticks in wheels.
        I don’t know what place Obama took Dilma, but after a visit to the United States (immediately after the BRICS summit), Brazil’s position changed dramatically.

        Anyway, BRICS is a promising organization. The main thing is to correctly dot the ... "e" ... laughing
        1. atalef 6 November 2015 22: 27 New
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          Well, what does "really bad" mean? BRICS has problems in every single country in the financial field.

          Here I am talking about the fact that in each BRICS country there are problems in the economy. Addition of minuses does not give a plus
          Quote: iConst
          The United States puts sticks in wheels.

          I always liked it - like the entrance is pissed. so these are necessarily the usrites from the USA
          Problems in the BRICS because of the BRICS themselves
          Quote: iConst
          I don’t know for what place Obama took Dilma,

          I think for the brain.

          Quote: iConst
          but after a visit to the United States (immediately after the BRICS summit), Brazil’s position changed dramatically.

          Well, it's only Venezuela, in which people order a queue for toilet paper for a week, and the country is one step away from a default.
          Manages to order Su-30 in Russia, Russia will agree to sell (I wonder what kind of headstock?), And applaud at this.
          And after that you ask why there are problems in the BRICS - yes, because the same financiers are sitting there.
      2. gladcu2 6 November 2015 20: 59 New
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        BRICS, does not steer. BRICS just scarecrow.

        Really the world drives the GDP. Since it creates the conditions under which the governments of other countries do the things that he pushes. And the USA, Vladimir Putin, was already able to find a common language. The truth is not with everyone. But the Rubicon has already stepped over and the unstable process has started in a positive direction.
  11. Tambov Wolf 6 November 2015 15: 43 New
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    Go bankrupt, do not go bankrupt, only the Lord knows. And we continue to distribute Russian lands.
    http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1636026/
  12. Berthan 6 November 2015 15: 48 New
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    The fact that the SGA will not be affordable, poking their nose where they do not ask is definitely good. But, do they have such a situation, the means - for proper storage of the Arsenal?
  13. leytenant 6 November 2015 16: 09 New
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    Already a sore point, I do not even read such articles. The United States will have a collapse of the economy only in one case - the physical destruction of the majority of the US population, or as a result of a cataclysm, the territory will become unusable. In the USA, all the financial wealth of the planet is concentrated, painted, soap bubbles, whatever you want, but while everything is sold and bought for these candy wrappers anywhere in the world, they are killed and sold into slavery, they sell oil and other natural resources. So all these predictions are from the evil one. Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Trumps and other multibillionaires will go shit, but they will not allow the collapse of the dollar.
    1. Selevc 6 November 2015 18: 47 New
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      The US state resembles a seasoned bandit-verzil with a huge bag of gold behind his back and those around are all right and honest waiting for a conscience to awaken in the bandit and he will begin to give back the loot ...)))
      No - the United States did not then rob the whole world to give it back then ... They will surely cling to the loot with all their might ... And the bandit will not understand anything and will not want to change anything until he is well marked ...

      Those wishing to change the dollar system probably need to store money in RMB, for example, evaluate their car and apartment in RMB ... Even at the household level, it is not easy to abandon the dollar pegging system ... The whole world is simply not ready for this ... If tomorrow the dollar turns into paper, the very usual system of measuring wealth will disappear ...
  14. yuriy55 6 November 2015 16: 17 New
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    It is foolish to tell a terrible tale about the collapse or bankruptcy of America and at the same time make all economic calculations in dollars (selling oil, gas, weapons), store money in the "American savings bank" ... Are there any counter-arguments? With the bankruptcy of America, the familiar financial system of more than one country will collapse. And US debt obligations (in the event of bankruptcy) can not only go nuts themselves, but also “zip” (slam, bang, shake) not only the economies of China, the Russian Federation and other dollar users ...
    If someone “drives” this bankruptcy, and analytical state minds are ready to believe it, the real steps, in terms of ensuring security, should be taken quickly, consistently and in the right direction. For the first steps, it’s good to recall the times of conducting trade transactions when no one heard about the dollar ... what
    1. iConst 6 November 2015 16: 31 New
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      And US debt obligations (in the event of bankruptcy) can not only go nuts themselves, but also “zip” (slam, bang, shake) not only the economies of China, the Russian Federation and other dollar users ...

      - Well, in itself it’s just debt. Well, they say (like xoxls) - we exchange the old treasurer for new ones at the rate of a fifty cents dollar.
      Or 30 cents. Or 10 cents - well, where will anyone go? Do not exchange - just stay on the "beans". laughing
  15. Mukazoidik 6 November 2015 16: 29 New
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    Aaahahah, you are talking nonsense. We will go bankrupt earlier than the USA. Are we doing well with demography ?! They have at least migrants, but ours too, but they have much more. Also, these migrants increase their birth rate, and ours? In December, the Fed is likely to raise rates, then the price tag for oil will go down, like the genitals of an 80-year-old man. What are we going to do ?! You think about it, nerds. At $ 22, the Russian economy will crash ... It’s easier for the world to give the United States money than to rebuild the system. Nothing lasts forever, but the USA will be a conductor in this world for a long time.
    1. iConst 6 November 2015 16: 38 New
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      In December, the Fed is likely to raise rates, then the price tag for oil will go down, like the genitals of an 80-year-old man. What are we going to do ?! You think about it, nerds. At $ 22, the Russian economy will crash ...

      Aaaaa ... Give someone a thread gun! I’ll shoot myself! laughing

      Can you explain the relationship between the key Fed rate and oil price? AND?
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        The US Fed rate determines the percentage of loans for ordinary banks. The lower the rate, the cheaper the loans for business and the public, the higher the growth of the economy. The United States is the main consumer of oil, the higher the growth, the higher the consumption. And if consumption does not grow in a country like the United States, then the price of mother oil falls, and we will eat “spirituality”, good luck) ...
    2. Your friend 6 November 2015 16: 46 New
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      Aaahahah, you are talking nonsense. We will go bankrupt earlier than the USA. Are we doing well with demography ?! They have at least migrants, but ours too, but they have much more. Also, these migrants increase their birth rate, and ours? In December, the Fed is likely to raise rates, then the price tag for oil will go down, like the genitals of an 80-year-old man. What are we going to do ?! You think about it, nerds. At $ 22, the Russian economy will crash ... It’s easier for the world to give the United States money than to rebuild the system. Nothing lasts forever, but the USA will be a conductor in this world for a long time.

      Fu as rude ("cretins" is a bad, uncultured word). But in general, everything is true.
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      Are we doing well with demographics ?!

      Chechnya with Tatarstan pulled over 148 million
      And yes, what's wrong with default? I remember that in Russia things began to improve only after August 98 of the year
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        And then we have run out of money for the local “kings” and they will say that you and I are not on the way. Kadyrov has a personal "pocket" army, he pays them, certainly not for Russia they will fight))))) ... After the default, the Primakov government came to us and it put things in order.
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    This problem, the “pension baby boomer crisis” according to Robert Kiyasaki, is facing not only the United States, but also the EU, the Russian Federation, China, Japan, South Korea ... except Latin America, Africa .... The essence of the problem: 3 -th workers will have to feed 2 retirees ..... Kiyasaki wrote about this about 12 years ago in a series of books .... He was a tyutelk in a tyutkel predicted the crisis of 2008 (called the term 2008-2010) ... According to him the global crisis is retirement, with the baby boomers just starting to retire until the flowers, berries are 7-8 years old .... In addition, the generation of baby boomers stacked their retirement benefits calculus in stocks (on the stock market and has grown by leaps and bounds), coming as they begin to retire en masse to sell them !!! Imagine what will happen to stock market quotes !!!!!
  17. Xsanchez 6 November 2015 16: 35 New
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    However, you can only rob your creditors once. After that, no one else will give you a loan.
    Those. is everything already a foregone conclusion?
  18. cniza 6 November 2015 16: 36 New
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    [quote = iConst] [quote = atalef]

    Anyway, BRICS is a promising organization. The main thing is to correctly dot the ... "e" ... laughing[/ Quote]


    Apparently someone really does not like it, even in.
  19. Altona 6 November 2015 16: 36 New
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    Come on, everything will be fine .. You might think that here someone instead of pickled cucumbers in glass jars has money in the cellar ...
  20. olimpiada15 6 November 2015 16: 49 New
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    Bankruptcy of the USA is unrealistic; their expenses are paid by the whole world. The whole world puts all the national wealth on the pedestal of the dollar, changing it to the production of a paper machine that prints dollars. In addition to $ 18 trillion of public debt, there is a huge unaccounted for amount of dollars all over the world, crowding the national currency provided with various goods. Why, with a double increase in the dollar exchange rate, all goods not related to imports doubled in price? Yes, because injecting the same amount of dollars into the economy was 2 times more expensive, and this rate was compensated for by citizens who began to buy the same cereals not at 30 rubles / kg, at 60 rubles / kg. The scheme for reaping the dollar by all countries is controlled by the Fed, and the financiers of the countries devalue the national currency in proportion to the amount of dollars poured.
    If you want, then the dollar is not inherently a currency, but a special standard, which is consistently in the first place in all countries of the world, the goods that remain after purchasing this coupon are bought in national currency, the price of which increases as the number of dollars poured into the economy increases.
    This system for the dollar as a win-win lottery, it always gets its full, and the buyers of local goods pay for it in national currency. So, for the fact that the United States places military bases in all corners of the world, those whom they threaten pay, it is we and other peoples who, through the efforts of domestic financiers who buy dollars, pay for color revolutions, terrorism, weapons, propaganda and demonization of the Russian Federation.
    Believe the USA, the default is not terrible, for their default we will pay other countries too, but not the Americans. So arranged world dollar system.
    1. iConst 6 November 2015 17: 14 New
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      Bankruptcy of the USA is unrealistic; their expenses are paid by the whole world.
      .....
      So arranged world dollar system.
      About the special standard and national currencies, everything is true.

      And yet: you yourself gave a refutation of this theorem - If a significant part of the countries can get out of the world dollar system, then US bankruptcy is inevitable.

      The stump is clear they will try to prevent this by all possible means. But that's another topic...
  21. dmitrymb 6 November 2015 16: 50 New
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    So far, there’s going to be paid for through liberalists, rationals, nationalists ... wars - the United States will "skim the cream"
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    (US authorities spend 40% of GDP at various levels, while taxes account for only 30%. This means that taxes need to be raised and government spending cuts. The only alternative is to destroy the debt by depreciating the dollars in which it is nominated, with the help of the Fed-organized inflation.

    However, you can rob your creditors only once. After that, no one will lend you more.)

    And all this against the backdrop of public debt of $ 18,3 trillion. And recently, the parliament allowed to increase public debt to $ 19,4 trillion. To die off.
  23. Evgeny Khokhlov 6 November 2015 18: 49 New
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    The country is completely opa, and we are hoping for the "bankruptcy of America! God’s ridiculous .....
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    Yes, the article is quite panic. But do not forget that all historical processes (even revolutions and upheavals) do not happen spontaneously and are not instantaneous. Therefore, in the near future, in my opinion, it is not worth waiting for the “end of America”.
    California and Illinois are on the verge of default. Cities like Detroit, Birmingham, Stockton and San Bernardino have already crossed that line.

    As long as there is the Fed, dollars will not be transferred.

    As for the decrease in the level of academic indicators of the population mentioned by the author, the worst thing is that with a club. But America still has a "club".
  25. Zomanus 6 November 2015 20: 33 New
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    America (USA) is separated by oceans from possible enemies.
    They keep their neighbors in a state of degradation.
    Or a sluggish war.
    That is, at the near borders they secured themselves.
    At far borders (spheres of influence) they operate with the help of military bases.
    Nothing to catch here either.
    A punitive system has worked perfectly at all levels within the country.
    The policeman knows for sure that if he shoots an unreliable (not necessarily a criminal),
    he will not be anything for it. Unlike our cops ...
    Active opposition is quickly lowered to the sewer level.
    Like ours, when a State Duma deputy travels around the world and tells
    how we need to be conquered cannot be there.
    By the way, this deputy still receives a salary ...
    So the system in the USA is quite stable in fact,
    the collapse there is unlikely.
    In case of tension, America will quietly merge Europe,
    devouring her resources after that.
    Well, there will still be some sort of term.
  26. akula 6 November 2015 21: 12 New
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    No one knows what will happen next. The capitalist swindlers came up with a partial reservation of banks and with it help rob the whole world, including the American people. Their propaganda and military power are strong and the system seems unbreakable, for 300% of the profit they are ready to gobble up the whole world and swallow the sun. But, as history shows, it’s not they who are the first, most likely to decay from the inside, but there is an alternative to the dollar, and the same gold at first, for example. If they came up with a partial reservation, then are we really so stupid and we won’t find what to pay for ? Would there be resources and goods.
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    As long as the US economy is strong, their pieces of paper will be in price. One of the units of their economy is military bases. A sort of company-enterprises. They are like mushroom pickers ... No, sowers! Sowers of pieces of paper.
    So the Dragon pulled himself up, but understands: become the main currency, the yuan - it (the Dragon) will collapse just like the United States.
    Salvation in gold! More precisely, in its quantity. And in intellectual leadership. But the West, its conscience-brain, is rotting. Life smells delicious, but a rotting brain ... So, for example, Charlie smells ... And is the leader the one who nurses Charlie ?!
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    When I thought of the United States, it was an association with a non-operable tumor. The organism is the whole Earth. A tumor is metostasis. You can’t cut it out. Chemistry is used to keep it from growing. At the same time, the whole body suffers from it. And if not chemistry, then the whole body dies quickly and painfully. Chemistry is a method of struggle and the hope of victory.
    Bad if cheers patriot. And if he criticizes, not knowing all the information? Who?
    And if it whines and everything denigrates and groans? Who?
    But what if he is blaming the president for being stupid, lazy and ill-living?
    I think it is imperative to know the good that is happening, to be able to talk about it, to be proud of the good.
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    We shouldn’t wait for the collapse of a foreign economy, but seriously think about our own !!! If we take into account how many of our rubles “spin” in dollar currency, then most of all, we will suffer. Regarding education, the impression is that it is about us, and the rest are the same problems.
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    My 5 kopecks about bankruptcy and the growth of US government debt.
    1. Do not think that in the US no one is involved in solving the problem of public debt. There, over this (as well as any other) problem, a whole staff of professionals is working, who are looking for certain techniques. And each time, when another analyst predicts a particular term of the US debt crash, these experts not only come up with, but also begin to implement another scenario to prevent this collapse. In principle, this can continue for a long time.
    2. Many talk about the debt obligations of the United States itself, but no one considers the debt obligations of other countries / organizations to the United States, and how much these obligations may overlap the US government debt.
    3. Few consider the structure of the US public debt. What is for example the ratio of internal and external debts. There are many examples in the history when the state nullified its debts to its citizens relatively easily.
    4. But it is impossible to discount the probability of default, as long as US expenditures significantly exceed revenues, no matter how stable their current situation seems.
    5. No need to consider the growth of public debt in isolation from other US problems. If a thread breaks a different “sore”, it can also lead to a US default, as well as vice versa - a US default is almost guaranteed to tear all other US sores.
    Conclusion: the United States does not face such problems that they could not solve. It all depends on how good their leadership will be. To the delight of anti-Americanists, in recent years 10-20 the quality of US governance has been steadily declining. It is this trend of declining governance that poses the greatest threat to the US
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      My 5 kopecks about bankruptcy and the growth of US government debt.
      - And here are my three:
      Quote: Allax
      1. Do not think that no one in the USA deals with the decision .... these experts not only come up with, but are already starting to put into practice ... this can go on for a long time.
      - There is one point in this formula: specialists cannot foresee and calculate everything - once, many circumstances are difficult to control or even not even controlled by the US forces - two.
      Quote: Allax
      2. Many talk about debt obligations of the United States, but no one does not consider debt obligations of other countries / organizations to the United States ....
      - There is no point in considering them. What will it give? Offsets? Excellent - the United States will owe the world one go and they will not have leverage to manage debtor countries. They will not allow offsets (as long as they are alive).
      Quote: Allax
      3. Few consider the structure of the US public debt. What is the ratio for example ...
      “Is that a secret?” Take a look.
      Quote: Allax
      4. But also to discount the probability of default, while US spending is significantly higher than income
      - This is a call to what? I do not understand.
      Quote: Allax
      5. No need to consider the growth of public debt in isolation from other US problems. In case some thread breaks another "sore" ....
      - Well, actually, money is the only problem and a sore in the USA. With money, all problems are solved. Not?