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US Navy decided to reduce the regions of the permanent stay of aircraft carriers

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Next year, the US aircraft carriers and the ships accompanying them will not be able to reside permanently in the Middle East and East Asia, reports Look with reference to the Vice-Admiral of the US Navy, John Aquilino.




The representative of the command of the Navy did not indicate specific dates when one should expect the absence of aircraft carriers in the indicated regions, and did not specify how long such periods would last.

According to the publication Hill, "a similar official recognition of the US Navy was made for the first time."

«Over the years 70, American presidents in times of crisis asked: "Where are the aircraft carriers now?". The next president may hear silence in response. ”- said the assistant head of the Pentagon, Sean Stackley.

The Navy claims that such a decision was made due to a lack of aircraft carriers - “at least one more is needed, but it should be expected no earlier than 2021 of the year. In addition, of the available 10, only half is available for deployment, ”said the admiral.

He explained that for the constant presence of an aircraft carrier in any of the regions "three ships are necessary: ​​one returns home, the second replaces it, and the third is in a state of readiness."

“A reduction in funding and campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan has also affected,” the newspaper notes.
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 5 November 2015 17: 58
    13
    And I think that the Chinese "blue men" embarrassed the Americans in East Asia, and the "Caliber" and the new "Varshavyanka" in the Black Sea caused the same feeling in the Middle East.
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      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 5 November 2015 18: 01
        17
        As someone said recently: “This is what the Life-Giving Caliber does!” Immediately, Theodore Roosevelt was withdrawn.
        So about others they realized that "Russian Arctic fox can sneak up unnoticed!"
        The bear won't even be able to tell "HALLOW"!
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 5 November 2015 18: 03
          +7
          Next year, American aircraft carriers and their accompanying ships will not be able to permanently be in the Middle East and East Asia, reports Vzglyad citing US Vice Admiral John Akuilino.

          We have a saying for such a case: "A woman with a cart is easier for a mare!" The Middle East will at least breathe freely.
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          2. Temples
            Temples 5 November 2015 18: 13
            +6
            Another whining about the need to increase the military budget

            The Navy claims that this decision was made due to a lack of aircraft carriers - “at least one more is needed

            Yesterday was enough, but today is not enough.
            The ocean has apparently increased in size. wassat
            1. demon1978
              demon1978 5 November 2015 19: 02
              11
              Quote: Temples
              Yesterday was enough, but today is not enough.
              The ocean has apparently increased in size.


              Yes, it is enough today ..., yes only SENSE is gone request
              10-15 years ago, they were hanging out like it in the hole, wherever possible and impossible, without ambiguously letting everyone understand - One not "democratic" statement and you will get rid of intolerant physics immediately !!!! yes And so it WAS (Iraq, Libya, etc.)
              But a year ago, after a breakaway attempt to hit Syria from the sea and the further development of events, the meaning of such voyages fell sharply, anyway, permission to use the group in combat, you need to ask the UN Security Council or the GDP (which is the same laughing )
              1. Eugene-Eugene
                Eugene-Eugene 5 November 2015 19: 20
                +4
                But a year ago, after a failed attempt to drive into Syria from the sea and further developments, the meaning of such voyages dropped dramatically

                As if in Soviet times the AUG felt untouchable. It's not about rationality, but about lack of funds. They want to close the base in Alaska, cut Lyndon's tesku - these are already symptoms, and the reason for the "coughing" was announced by the Americans themselves - "the reduction in funding also affected." God grant to see "hemoptysis" and seizures.
                1. Dryuya2
                  Dryuya2 5 November 2015 20: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Eugene-Eugene
                  after a failed attempt to run into Syria

                  I'm sorry, but I'm talking about Syria repeat
                  I saw this message ...
                  https://www.facebook.com/khaberneeyateer
                  وحدة من الجيش السوري وبالتعاون مع مجموعات الدفاع الشعبية تبسط سيطرتها على تلال الحزم الثني - تل الثث
                  Google translates so ..
                  Unit of the syrian army and in cooperation with the Chinese People's Group Defense expanded its control over the bending hill hills - Tel Bending Brive Homs
                  can anyone translate humanly ???? hi
                  I about China - are present ????
                2. Tra-ta-ta
                  Tra-ta-ta 5 November 2015 23: 04
                  +2
                  This is not a matter of rationality, but a lack of funds.
                  Congress and the Pentagon, of course, would not go for it ..
                  But it’s not they who command the money or even the president ..
                  And those who command, think more mundane at a particular crisis moment.
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 6 November 2015 00: 28
              +2
              From what incomes to increase the military budget? They do not lend as willingly as before, and some (Russia and China) sabotage the event altogether. laughing
              1. Stock 1963
                Stock 1963 5 December 2015 19: 41
                0
                We have kept part of our ZVZ in dollars and are storing them, only it melts for well-known reasons. China too. The economy is growing 3% and this is at 25% of the world. The growth of a number of economy indicators give a decent increase in the budget. There are simply other priorities: space (manned flight to Mars !!! by 2025), advanced medicine, the best higher education in the world, science. I think that it’s time for our politicians to do something useful for specific people.
          3. marinier
            marinier 5 November 2015 18: 53
            14
            Hallo, g-in.
            Na moi vizgliad bliz-vostok, i netolko, drugoi region toze obleg4at, esli u kop4en-lycifer poyavitsya alternativ sila (na moi vzigliad v polne dostoin sopernik Russische Federation), eto ostudit, warm golova in pentagon. Glavnoi RFdolzen bit na postoian osnova, kak (USSR) .Eto pozvolit visko4ka obamka derzat tonus.

            PS v sovremenam world, nevozmojno domination een sila, eto vedet k vsi-dozvolenosti, bes-nakazanosti. Po etomu RUSSLAND dolzen sootvestvovat svoim prednazna4inij.
            hi
            1. Mikhail Krapivin
              Mikhail Krapivin 5 November 2015 19: 31
              +6
              Smoked Lucifer is powerful! Well said and immediately clear about who it is :)
          4. GSH-18
            GSH-18 5 November 2015 19: 49
            +1
            US Navy decided to reduce the regions of the permanent stay of aircraft carriers

            Looks like lave on ne.
        2. Sid.74
          Sid.74 5 November 2015 18: 09
          +6
          “For 70 years, American presidents in times of crisis have asked:" Where are the aircraft carriers now? " The next president may hear silence in response, ”said Assistant to the head of the Pentagon Sean Stackley.

          In, scho Calibers and life-giving bastions do! fellow

          At the same time, US forces in Europe will be reduced by 20 thousand. America will crawl closer to its borders. The epopee with the increase in the US government debt and the non-stop print of the dollar is coming to an end. yes
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 5 November 2015 18: 16
            +5
            How does this strike the Kyrgyz Republic on land targets and the 3 complex (12 PU) on the Black Sea Fleet amers scared?
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 5 November 2015 18: 54
              +1
              Quote: strannik1985
              How does this strike the Kyrgyz Republic on land targets and the 3 complex (12 PU) on the Black Sea Fleet amers scared?

              The fact that all 36 strategic bases of NATO-USA, and these are naval bases, airfields, fleet maintenance bases and strategic carriers, are perfectly destroyed by caliber, and not patriots, not other NATO air defense systems are unable to intercept them.
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 5 November 2015 18: 57
                +2
                AUG do with it?
                1. Sid.74
                  Sid.74 5 November 2015 19: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: strannik1985
                  AUG do with it?

                  And where do you think they are serviced? And their resource in the autonomous system is not unlimited.winked
                  1. GRAY
                    GRAY 5 November 2015 19: 22
                    0
                    Quote: Sid.74
                    And where do you think they are serviced? And their resource in the autonomous system is not unlimited.

                    Fell into the metropolis.
                    I have never heard them go anywhere else. They have the principle of "I carry everything with me", they drive the supply court to the edge of the court, that's all.
                    1. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 5 November 2015 22: 07
                      +3
                      Quote: GRAY
                      I have never heard them go anywhere else. They have the principle of "I carry everything with me", they drive the supply court to the edge of the court, that's all.

                      But this does not mean that they really "did not go anywhere." Naples is a favorite parking spot for AVU. Cycle: 30 days at sea, 10 days at a maneuvering base. Ams rented a hotel, called their wives and girlfriends and rested in full. And our KNSy at this time rubbed against the border of the Italian terrorist.
                      This is how, brother, the Yankes served the "ideals of democracy" at sea, far from their shores - with complete comfort, a family contract!yes
                      1. Tra-ta-ta
                        Tra-ta-ta 5 November 2015 23: 38
                        +1
                        with complete comfort, family contract! ..
                        We visited 90 in Valparaiso exactly after their visit ..
                        The locals were so pumped that they took time off ..
                        Sailors had to spend money on consumer goods.
                  2. strannik1985
                    strannik1985 5 November 2015 19: 32
                    +3
                    In the home port, everything in America, except for one-Yokosuk Naval Naval Base. One cycle of an aircraft carrier is 18 months, of which deployment (being in the area of ​​responsibility) is 6 months, the rest is repair, basic training, readiness from 30 to 60 days, readiness up to 30 days at the home port.
                    1. Sid.74
                      Sid.74 5 November 2015 20: 25
                      -1
                      Quote: strannik1985
                      In the port of registry, all in America, except for one-the naval base Yokosuka.

                      And where are the rest of the AUG ships being repaired? Also in the USA and Yokosuka?
                      The AUG consists of 7,500 personnel, an aircraft carrier, at least one cruiser, a squadron of destroyers consisting of at least two destroyers and / or frigates, and a wing from 65 to 70 aircraft. Carrier strike groups also sometimes include submarines and supply ships.

                      Quote: GRAY
                      on the pinch, the supply vessels are chasing, that's all.

                      Well, and where these ships are refueled, repaired, etc. Is it really in the USA? Then the autonomy of such an armada is not so autonomous.
                      There are variants of the Caliber for the torpedo tubes of Varshavyanka, where the rumored range reaches 1500 km.
                      But the shooting was on the ground. The question is whether our RCC variant improved to beat 1500 km. what
                      1. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 5 November 2015 21: 13
                        +1
                        Again. AUG here to do with it?
                        As part of the U.S. Navy, 22 KR URO and 62 EM URO, apart from everything else, various operational formations, groups and units in the operational fleets are manned on a rotational basis.
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 6 November 2015 00: 32
              0
              How does this strike the Kyrgyz Republic on land targets and the 3 complex (12 PU) on the Black Sea Fleet amers scared?
              A possible hit on pride with an unpredictable result ranging from oops to arctic fox! And who really knows what you have there?
        3. Tusv
          Tusv 5 November 2015 18: 11
          +3
          Quote: Baikonur
          As someone said recently: "This is what the Life-giving Caliber does!"

          Something tells me that it is not in "Caliber that gives life"
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 5 November 2015 19: 26
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            Something tells me that it is not in "Caliber that gives life"

            And in its anti-ship version. lol
            The Americans suspected that the anti-ship version of the "Caliber" had a range greater than the declared one, and at the same time they remembered about the nuclear warhead. I see no other explanation.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 5 November 2015 20: 36
              +2
              Quote: GRAY
              The Americans suspected that the anti-ship version of the "Caliber" had a range greater than the declared one, and at the same time they remembered about the nuclear warhead. I see no other explanation.

              Do not underestimate the intelligence of a potential adversary. They know about TTX Caliber a little less than the General Designer and more than all the members of the VO forum. I repeat. It’s not the caliber or the quantity
        4. guzik007
          guzik007 5 November 2015 18: 26
          +2
          I would say: "Ayyayay, all the same, the navel is untied !.
        5. little girl15
          little girl15 5 November 2015 19: 32
          0
          Long live the Almighty Caliber!
        6. GSH-18
          GSH-18 5 November 2015 19: 48
          +2
          US Navy decided to reduce the regions of the permanent stay of aircraft carriers


          And for one NATO base from our borders, go home! am
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 5 November 2015 18: 01
      11
      Quote: sever.56
      And I think that the Chinese "blue men" confused the Americans

      Most likely they are confused by a reduction in the military budget.
      1. udincev
        udincev 5 November 2015 18: 08
        0
        Quote: 79807420129

        Most likely they are confused by a reduction in the military budget.
        Unlikely. They will collect the budget as much as you want, from friends.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 5 November 2015 18: 15
          +7
          Quote: udincev
          The budget as much as you want will be printed, they will be collected from friends.

          In order to print them, it is necessary to distribute inflation outside, and this is impossible under the conditions of a reduction in the turnover of dollars.
          Here you have some news from the Wall Street bosses. These are not ordinary analysts, they are financial celestials.

          12 October 2015. The total US consolidated debt (public and private) increased over the second quarter by $ 2,7 trillion to $ 62,1 trillion (as of June 30 2015), which is 350% of US GDP (March was 330%). Earlier, the 18 of September, the US Federal Reserve, trying to hide such a significant increase, stopped publishing a schedule by which you can immediately see the size of the total debt.

          12 October 2015. Analysts from Goldman Sachs - one of the largest investment banks in the world - have said that the third wave of the financial crisis has hit our planet. In a simplified form, their sentence is: everything is getting cheaper, we are falling into a deflationary spiral, while attempts to solve the problem by actively printing money fail over and over again. Experts from Citigroup, the largest financial conglomerate in the world, say the same thing.

          16 October 2015. The number of drilling rigs in the United States continues to fall, sad new records have been set: oil rigs remain only 37% from the peak of 2014 of the year.

          22 October 2015. The US Treasury Department for the first time in 11 years decided to cancel the auction of government bonds - the 2-year Treasury Notes scheduled for the last week of October will not be posted. The reasons for this are the risks associated with the “public debt ceiling”.

          22 October 2015. Italian two-year T-bills for the first time fell below 0% - that is, in the zone of negative interest rates.

          28 October 2015. Swedish Central Bank lowered repo rate to minus 0,35% pa and spend already the record fifth QE for the year.
          1. jovanni
            jovanni 5 November 2015 18: 54
            +3
            "October 12, 2015. Analysts from Goldman Sachs - one of the largest investment banks in the world - said that the third wave of the financial crisis has covered our planet. In a simplified form, their verdict sounds like this: everything is getting cheaper, we are sliding into a deflationary spiral, while trying to solve the problem of actively printing money is failing over and over again. The same is argued by experts from Citigroup, the largest financial conglomerate in the world. "

            Fuh! Well, thank God! Everything is getting more expensive for us, so we need these spirals on the drum! It turns out that the third wave does not cover us, you can not worry! Fine! It's a pity I just want to eat, but there is less and less money ...
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 5 November 2015 19: 06
              +1
              Quote: Jovanni
              It turns out that the third wave does not cover, you can and do not worry!

              Alas, will cover all! crying Therefore, Russia and China are buying gold and other valuable metals.
              Quote: Jovanni
              With us, everything becomes more expensive, so we spiral these on the drum!

              The US model is very different from the model of the Eurasian Union.
              The Americans tried to disperse inflation from 2008, so that it gobbled up part of the national debt, but nothing came of this idea.
              One of the problems is that we sell our goods and resources for dollars, sell for rubles, there would be problems of a different nature.
        2. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 5 November 2015 18: 16
          +1
          So much for the aircraft carriers, however ... They are running away from sin! Russia is entering the world arms arena! If anything, these "galoshes" will be popping like nuts from the Caspian Sea or from our rivers ... wassat It will be worse if the Northern Fleet begins liquidation ....)))) hi
      2. sever.56
        sever.56 5 November 2015 18: 09
        +4
        Quote: 79807420129
        Most likely they are confused by a reduction in the military budget.


        That for them a dozen lard, with a budget of 650 - seeds. It's not about financing, but the fact that both we and China have shown that our armed forces can REALLY carry out serious operations, and our missiles and ships are not rusty, as Western analysts and " xperds "...
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 5 November 2015 21: 21
          0
          Quote: sever.56
          That for them a dozen lard, with a budget of 650 - seeds. It's not about financing, but the fact that both we and China have shown that our armed forces can REALLY carry out serious operations, and our missiles and ships are not rusty, as Western analysts and " xperds "...


          Why are there Western "analytegs", here you are, Dear Valeriy, "iksperd", so "iksperd", I’ll be fucked up to everyone. Reading your comments, I often wonder why you are writing this. And I can't find the answer. winked
          PS If you seriously think about how to write, then I want to note that the number of caps with which you are going to throw a potential enemy in Murmansk is no longer fit. fellow
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      4. Altona
        Altona 5 November 2015 18: 18
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        Most likely they are confused by a reduction in the military budget.

        ------------------
        The only case "when loot triumphs over evil" ...
    3. arane
      arane 5 November 2015 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      And I think that the Chinese "blue men" embarrassed the Americans in East Asia, and the "Caliber" and the new "Varshavyanka" in the Black Sea caused the same feeling in the Middle East.

      Chinese "yellow men" sounds more familiar laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 5 November 2015 18: 22
        0
        Quote: arane
        Quote: sever.56
        And I think that the Chinese "blue men" embarrassed the Americans in East Asia, and the "Caliber" and the new "Varshavyanka" in the Black Sea caused the same feeling in the Middle East.

        Chinese "yellow men" sounds more familiar laughing

        and Bandera - these are yellow-blue men.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 5 November 2015 18: 28
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          and Bandera - these are yellow-blue men.

          No, those are brown ... wassat
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 November 2015 18: 28
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      And I think that the Chinese "blue men" embarrassed the Americans in East Asia, and the "Caliber" and the new "Varshavyanka" in the Black Sea caused the same feeling in the Middle East.

      If I am not mistaken, Vietnam and China have Varshavyanki.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 5 November 2015 19: 10
        +3
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        If I am not mistaken, Vietnam and China have Varshavyanki.

        If I'm not mistaken, then Vietnam and China have Kilo, in our Halibut. Varshavyanka is an improved Halibut or in the bourgeois Improved Kilo.
        Forgive Pvoshnik Submariners if I made a mistake
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    6. Persistent
      Persistent 5 November 2015 18: 46
      +1
      And I think that the Chinese "blue men" embarrassed the Americans in East Asia, and the "Caliber" and the new "Varshavyanka" in the Black Sea caused the same feeling in the Middle East.

      Conclusion:
      To give America its trough on "needles" .... In modern warfare (God forbid), this is a mass grave. Moreover, against the modern weapons of Russia ...
    7. Sterlya
      Sterlya 5 November 2015 19: 12
      +1
      To ruin which country it is necessary to present an aircraft carrier, the content is costing her, especially on duty.
      Dollars all return to the usa. Since they are 3, they can hardly contain it sooner.
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    9. APASUS
      APASUS 5 November 2015 21: 37
      +1
      Quote: sever.56
      And I think that the Chinese "blue men" embarrassed the Americans in East Asia, and the "Caliber" and the new "Varshavyanka" in the Black Sea caused the same feeling in the Middle East.

      What little people are there, it’s easier and more prosaic for the Americans to have serious problems in the financial sphere and the president is a wimp!
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 5 November 2015 21: 52
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        and the president is a wimp!

        I would not call Obama a wimp. Two years ago, the United States faced a real default, and who are its aftars? Ochien Reputable Prospective: Clinton and Younger
    10. Tor5
      Tor5 5 November 2015 22: 23
      0
      Aha! Polite blue men hinted that "take your greatcoat and press home!"
  2. Chertkov Oleg
    Chertkov Oleg 5 November 2015 17: 59
    -1
    Gauges, gauges, what have you done laughing fellow good
  3. biron
    biron 5 November 2015 18: 00
    -1
    and all that is to blame for the caliber.
  4. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 5 November 2015 18: 00
    -1
    Gauges will get your trough everywhere.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 5 November 2015 18: 28
      +1
      It turns out this situation: Russia uses its missiles and aircraft to keep the US fleet away from the coast. The Americans are aircraft carriers with short-range aircraft (with a range shorter than the required practice), i.e.: It’s like breaking into an armored warrior with a sword in his hand to break through to an armed archer with a squeaker that he will put his 100% at a distance from himself, because . the armored forehead does not have time with its sword to reach the enemy armed with firearms.
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 5 November 2015 18: 37
        +1
        The ability to strike ships at sea to a depth of 925 km and land targets at a depth of 1600 km - "short-range aircraft"? And also the ability to move up to 1100-1300 km in a day and drive up to 14 days without restocking.
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 5 November 2015 19: 37
          0
          Quote: strannik1985
          The ability to strike ships at sea to a depth of 925 km and land targets at a depth of 1600 km - "short-range aircraft"? And also the ability to move up to 1100-1300 km in a day and drive up to 14 days without restocking.


          I didn’t have time to finish reading your fiery post, glorifying the power of the striped AUGs, when I urgently wanted to surrender to such a super-powerful opponent. But then I remembered about Granite with JabCh and gave up on changing my mind :)
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 5 November 2015 20: 51
            +2
            And how long has a sober assessment of the enemy’s combat effectiveness become praise?
            At the same time, remember that for firing this anti-ship missile at long distances you need an external command center, which will you provide?
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 5 November 2015 18: 00
    +7
    He explained that for the constant presence of an aircraft carrier in any of the regions "three ships are necessary: ​​one returns home, the second replaces it, and the third is in a state of readiness."


    I think the importance of aircraft carriers on the impact of the situation in any crisis is too exaggerated ....

    Recently, new types of weapons have appeared that threaten the existence of the AUG, and I think their value will steadily fall due to the growing vulnerability to new weapons .....

    as they say nothing lasts forever under the moon.
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 5 November 2015 18: 10
      +1
      What weapons? RCC, SSBN, MRA is far from a new weapon, as are attempts to create anti-aircraft ballistic missiles.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 5 November 2015 18: 38
        -1
        The missile cruiser Admiral Nakhimov, undergoing repairs and modernization in Severodvinsk, will be equipped with a universal ship firing complex by 2018, which will allow the use of Caliber, Onyx missiles and the promising hypersonic RCC Zircon.



        and promising hypersonic anti-ship missiles "Zircon" ....
        a dozen of such ZIRCONS will break through any AUG defense
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 5 November 2015 18: 54
          +1
          Yes, if there is anyone who can provide the missile defense, if the launch line of carriers is outside the boundary of the air defense missile system.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 6 November 2015 00: 48
            0
            The carriers can be placed not only on the cruiser and secretly approach the AUG .... further AUG is still a group of ships and it is much easier to find them than a single ship or a fired missile .... then you can share electronic warfare and false targets ... .In general, a set of such measures with a high degree of probability will make it possible to strike at AUG.

            No wonder the Americans were worried about the new capabilities of our army and navy.
            1. strannik1985
              strannik1985 6 November 2015 06: 56
              0
              Media can be placed not only on the cruiser and secretly approach the AUG

              It’s possible, on the PLARK, only the boundary of the PLO AUG (long-range-P-8A Poseidon-200 km, near-ICAPL Los Angeles-100 km) does not allow the PLARK to independently detect and launch from outside the enemy’s defense
              .. further AUG is still a group of ships and it is much easier to detect them than a single ship or a rocket

              Due to the powerful air component, primarily the carrier-based and base AWACS and U aircraft, the enemy has been able to control the airspace 1000 km from the center of the order since the 80s. You just think we have abandoned the Successful SMRTS (Tu-95RTs - the limit of the order detection range along the radio horizon line is about 400 km, and the line of interception of a single target by a bundle of E-2A / F-4 is 500 km, so Tu-95RTs produced only in 1963-1969 and produced only 52 cars) and fenced the satellite MKRTs "Legend"?
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 5 November 2015 18: 15
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I think the importance of aircraft carriers on the impact of the situation in any crisis is too exaggerated ....



      I completely agree ... Modern AUGs today can only intimidate countries that are not able to snap back ... And the pleasure of keeping them is too expensive ...

      PS And to cover this squadron even with a blow to the area for modern nuclear weapons delivery systems, including a missile defense system, is much simpler and cheaper than building your own aircraft carriers and measuring who has longer ...
  6. udincev
    udincev 5 November 2015 18: 02
    +1
    There will be no aircraft carriers - that means they have already come up with another muck.
    No wonder they do not sign a convention banning the deployment of weapons in space, for example.
    1. your1970
      your1970 5 November 2015 18: 08
      0
      What could be more significant threat from afar, but at the same time being nearby than an aircraft carrier?
      Apparently in the US, the printing press does not have time to print budgets ....
      1. udincev
        udincev 5 November 2015 18: 12
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Apparently in the US, the printing press does not have time to print budgets ...

        They’ll print it bigger, they will pick it up from friends for a good deed.
        No, I think it’s not a budget matter ...
        1. your1970
          your1970 5 November 2015 21: 46
          +1
          print indefinitely even they cannot ...
  7. Andrea
    Andrea 5 November 2015 18: 03
    +6
    We are not local. We burned recently, bring Christ for the sake of a new aircraft carrier. laughing
    1. slaw14
      slaw14 5 November 2015 18: 17
      +1
      Well, yes, funny. But what about the service staff on board? African-Americans also want to eat.
  8. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 5 November 2015 18: 08
    0
    Can you move to another planet? Unhappy humanoids ...
  9. veksha50
    veksha50 5 November 2015 18: 11
    +2
    "this decision was made due to the lack of aircraft carriers -"at least one more is needed"...

    Mdaaaa .. With so many available - and at least one more is needed ... They are not going to send him to the Belarusian Sea-Okiyan ???

    PS Honestly, I do not get tired of wondering at the enormous importance attached to the AUG with modern nuclear missile weapons ... Even if one out of ten Voivod-Satan with a warhead capacity of 1 mgt reaches and flops somewhere around the AUG, then what fighting capacity can speak ???

    Or with a massive blow by the same Caliber ... No air defense can hold, at least one with a nuclear warhead will break through, and more is not necessary ...
    1. beer-youk
      beer-youk 5 November 2015 21: 21
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      I beg your pardon! Forced to clarify. AUG air defense systems in the 80s were easily extinguished by means of the USSR electronic warfare. As far as it is known from open sources, the United States has progressed slightly in the field of air defense (and then, according to advertising). At the same time, RF EW funds reached the next level, unattainable by the Chats in the foreseeable future. Summary: at present AUG is a large-sized, defenseless, training target for all types of weapons. And it is very unfortunate that their admirals understand this.
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 5 November 2015 21: 45
        +1
        Perhaps that is why, in order to defeat the AUG, the 2 Tu-22M3,2 regiment, 130 regiments of fighters, electronic warfare vehicles (total 135-XNUMX aircraft), the Legend MCRC were required?
  10. bad
    bad 5 November 2015 18: 16
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    Next year, American aircraft carriers and their accompanying ships will not be able to permanently be in the Middle East and East Asia, reports Vzglyad citing US Vice Admiral John Akuilino.
    .. why all of a sudden? there is no money? or is a bad sailor always hindered by "calibers"? laughing
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 5 November 2015 19: 35
      +1
      Aircraft carriers are pulling the American army to the bottom. Well, they are able to carry out a certain number of sorties, but is any airport not enough for this? Here is the operation of Russia in Syria: calmly people chose a normal airfield, settled down there and work. So it’s a thousand times cheaper, a hundred times safer and more effective than maintaining a vessel afloat over the years, onto which on a weekly basis deliver barges from kerosene to condoms.
  11. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 5 November 2015 18: 23
    +2
    Americans are beginning to see that the aircraft carrier in today's world is only good against underdeveloped states.
    But we got a lot of screamers who prove that we can’t live without aircraft carriers!
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 5 November 2015 18: 29
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      Funny, one rank from the US Navy hinted at the need to increase the budget of the fleet, and here are such conclusions.
  12. Masya masya
    Masya masya 5 November 2015 18: 24
    +4
    "The representative of the command of the Navy did not indicate specific dates," but they lie as always ...
  13. VladimS
    VladimS 5 November 2015 18: 33
    +1
    Quote: Temples
    Another whining about the need to increase the military budget

    The Navy claims that this decision was made due to a lack of aircraft carriers - “at least one more is needed

    Yesterday was enough, but today is not enough.
    The ocean has apparently increased in size. wassat


    Sawing in the sizes of those that, ours and others did not even dream of ....
  14. HAM
    HAM 5 November 2015 18: 56
    0
    All THIS already looks like the first "bells", for many years they had enough money, aircraft carriers for everything, and now suddenly (probably not all of a sudden) there was not enough everything - either the "toad" grew up or the "Arctic fox" crept up unnoticed.


    "The ocean seems to have grown in size." --- class !!! hi
  15. AlexTires
    AlexTires 5 November 2015 19: 25
    +1
    Large racket, requires large injections, and with the infusion in the United States is now very tight. They pulled, pulled their spider legs to riches all over the world and exerted themselves, Paws began to fall off ..
    Still, I think indeed AUG is a weapon for intimidating the Papuans, an incredibly expensive pleasure that has NEVER proved its effectiveness in the post-war history of wars. So to speak (may the sailors forgive me!) - yesterday’s weapon - ...
  16. Yugra
    Yugra 5 November 2015 19: 39
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    With the current Russian missile weapons, mattresses can safely steal their air sheds into the country of mattress. Very good targets for us ...
  17. cniza
    cniza 5 November 2015 20: 17
    +2
    Quote: Baikonur
    As someone said recently: “This is what the Life-Giving Caliber does!” Immediately, Theodore Roosevelt was withdrawn.
    So about others they realized that "Russian Arctic fox can sneak up unnoticed!"
    The bear won't even be able to tell "HALLOW"!



    It seems that large compounds are becoming obsolete.
  18. pvv113
    pvv113 5 November 2015 20: 18
    +1
    Next president can hear back

    - They drowned wink
  19. cniza
    cniza 5 November 2015 20: 24
    +2
    Quote: pvv113
    Next president can hear back

    - They drowned wink



    Rather, they are not needed.
  20. Old26
    Old26 5 November 2015 20: 58
    +1
    Quote: Sid.74
    The fact that all 36 strategic bases of NATO-USA, and these are naval bases, airfields, fleet maintenance bases and strategic carriers, are perfectly destroyed by caliber, and not patriots, not other NATO air defense systems are unable to intercept them.

    And if the author of this article, which mentions 36 bases, would take the trouble to calculate the range at least on the map, it would be great. And the air defense system of these bases would not be limited only to the "Patriots" of the PAC-1 model - in general it would be great. And I would also remember that between these bases and Russia, more precisely the regions from which launches can be carried out on these bases - a dozen countries with aviation and air defense systems, incl. and with our complexes, including S-300, Thor, Arrows, Wasps, Pantsyri and others. Plus French complexes, plus ship ones. True, the author of this, with the permission to say the analysis, took all this out of the brackets, leaving only the first version of the Patriot and the complexes based on Stinger. There are many letters, many numbers, and the real cost of this, if I may say so, an analytical review, is close to zero.

    Quote: Ugra
    With the current Russian missile weapons, mattresses can safely steal their air sheds into the country of mattress. Very good targets for us ...

    Sorry, comrade, but the statement is worthy of a kond patriot cheer. These sheds, with certain actions = once sank our boats with caliber due to the almost complete lack of air defense.
    And to shoot down a subsonic target with a range of 400-450 km despite the fact that the ships of the aircraft carrier order are sometimes about 50-100 km and AWACS 400 km from the aircraft carrier - a task for the child ...

    Quote: armored optimist
    Americans are beginning to see that the aircraft carrier in today's world is only good against underdeveloped states.

    So highly developed can be counted on the fingers of two hands, well, the maximum is also to use the toes. And the rest are just underdeveloped ...

    Quote: AlexTires
    Aircraft carriers are pulling the American army to the bottom.

    They’re not pulling her anywhere.

    Quote: AlexTires
    Well, they are able to carry out a certain number of sorties, but is any airport not enough for this?

    Good. Here's an introduction. The capital of the Seychelles was captured by the Tumba Yumba Freedom Army. That is the nearest US air base - almost 2000 km, to the base of the US allies - 3000 km. What is more profitable is to drive from these bases aircraft with a lot of refueling and a minimum of combat load, or to drive an aircraft carrier to a distance of 1-2 hundred kilometers to the island. About the sorties. Not so few aircraft sorties can be made by aircraft from an aircraft carrier. On the net you can also find the possible number of sorties based on fuel and ammunition. Not to mention that both can be delivered.
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  22. Old26
    Old26 5 November 2015 20: 58
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    Quote: AlexTires
    Here is the operation of Russia in Syria: calmly people chose a normal airfield, settled down there and work. So it’s a thousand times cheaper, a hundred times safer and more effective than maintaining a vessel afloat over the years, onto which on a weekly basis deliver barges from kerosene to condoms.

    So the Americans use aircraft carriers where land aviation is not profitable to use. And about the fact that ours is cheaper, more efficient, safer - on the first two points, yes, on the third (security) - no. In such a situation, an aircraft carrier is safer, because may be beyond the reach of weapons of the same terrorists

    If now there are temporary difficulties in maintaining aircraft carriers in certain areas, this does not mean that they will generally leave the ocean. They will leave Southeast Asia - so they have enough airfields there for the first time, they will leave the eastern Mediterranean - and there are enough air bases in Europe. And here, where there are few airbases or they are far away from the desired theater of operations, they will still keep aircraft carriers. And in vain we draw such profound conclusions from this. For others, including and we, too, do not hang out an aircraft carrier all the time in the same region, although many are outraged why Syria does not have it
  23. kepmor
    kepmor 5 November 2015 22: 02
    +1
    Quote: Sid.74
    Quote: strannik1985
    How does this strike the Kyrgyz Republic on land targets and the 3 complex (12 PU) on the Black Sea Fleet amers scared?

    The fact that all 36 strategic bases of NATO-USA, and these are naval bases, airfields, fleet maintenance bases and strategic carriers, are perfectly destroyed by caliber, and not patriots, not other NATO air defense systems are unable to intercept them.

    Even though you are listed as a moderator, the stupidity "froze" incredible! Who said that air defense is powerless against KRBD (Caliber, Tomahawk) and is not capable of intercepting them? Very capable, both ours and the state air defense! "Urakryakalki" as always wishful thinking are trying to pass off! Apparently from sheer incompetence in military affairs!
    Unfortunately, but on marine TVDs, we and the United States will not have to compete on an equal footing in the next 50 years!
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 6 November 2015 00: 40
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      So the Russian naval doctrine is based on the principle of covering access! And not like mattress toppers, in attack .... sorry in the delivery of "democracy". Air defense is really powerless against a massive attack by means of attack, and in this, mattress mats with their "Tomahawks" have an advantage (quantitative), but only in the vastness of the oceans.
  24. Wolka
    Wolka 6 November 2015 05: 51
    -2
    modern weapons and tactics of their use are constantly being improved (Russia has clearly shown that aircraft carriers are currently standing and their vulnerability), because probably the Yankees still understand that the presence of aircraft carriers in a given water area does not solve the essence of the problem itself, but only exacerbates it and makes it more expensive for the Yankees themselves ...
  25. Old26
    Old26 6 November 2015 07: 42
    +2
    Quote: Volka
    Russia has clearly shown what aircraft carriers are at present and their vulnerability

    What proved?
  26. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 November 2015 11: 12
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    Nonsense. They have everything in order with the aircraft carriers, as there were ten left. Five at the base, five at sea, although seven might go out if necessary. Obviously, they do not need so many ABs in the sea now, and as soon as they need them, two ABs stand ready. The Persian Gulf, by the way, is not empty, theirs "Mistral" grazes there, with escort. Here is such.
  27. Stock 1963
    Stock 1963 5 December 2015 18: 48
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    B [quote = SRC P-15] [quote] Next year, American aircraft carriers and their accompanying ships will not be able to permanently be in the Middle East and East Asia, reports Vzglyad citing US Vice Admiral John Akuilino. [/ Quote]
    We have a saying for such a case: "A woman with a cart - it's easier for a mare!" The Middle East will at least breathe freely. [/ The Middle East has never breathed freely and it is dangerous to intervene there, all the more to climb.
  28. Stock 1963
    Stock 1963 5 December 2015 18: 58
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    Quote: demon1978
    Quote: Temples
    Yesterday was enough, but today is not enough.
    The ocean has apparently increased in size.


    Yes, it is enough today ..., yes only SENSE is gone request
    10-15 years ago, they were hanging out like it in the hole, wherever possible and impossible, without ambiguously letting everyone understand - One not "democratic" statement and you will get rid of intolerant physics immediately !!!! yes And so it WAS (Iraq, Libya, etc.)
    But a year ago, after a breakaway attempt to hit Syria from the sea and the further development of events, the meaning of such voyages fell sharply, anyway, permission to use the group in combat, you need to ask the UN Security Council or the GDP (which is the same laughing )

    The UN Security Council was asked, GDP is not necessary.
  29. Stock 1963
    Stock 1963 5 December 2015 20: 28
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    We cannot create all these arguments about AUG in favor of the poor, so we are perverted in speculation. And if we had AUG, they would be admired and proud. And the Yankees and Uncle Sam "fools" do not understand anything either in tactics or in strategy, they only print dollars, having noticed.