Military Review

Reflections in pursuit of Serdyukov

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There is no sense in discussing the new appointment of Anatoly Serdyukov in the state-owned corporation Rostec, nor is there any point in commenting on the rumors about the imminent release of Nadezhda Savchenko. There is simply a new discrepancy between patriotic rhetoric and liberal content, which leads the country along a direct road to a revolutionary situation. It is now clear that 2016 will largely determine the year, and primarily for socio-economic reasons.




September 16 The 2016 will be held elections to the seventh convocation of the State Duma - a time when the secret struggle will become apparent. By the last 2011 election, Navalny and the White Ribbon project already existed, and we must honestly admit that there were thousands of truly dissatisfied people on this White Ribbon, and not just the notorious opposition party. It was these people that made up the mass of Bolotnaya, and not at all propagated by Makarevich and Ahejakova. And there will be more and more dissatisfied from among ordinary citizens, employees of enterprises and the public sector - a liberal economy, originally built on an unfair distribution of income, leaves them no choice.

The Americans are now using the same tactics against the Russian Federation as the Anglo-French intelligence used against the Russian Empire in the First World War: worsening the socio-economic situation through agents of influence in the highest echelons of power, a coup with the subsequent coming to the management of people who should manage this to destroy. If we really follow the classics, then they will try to combine the economic decline with military defeats.

If the current leadership of the Russian Federation overcomes the 2016 milestone of the year, then the 2018 year will loom before them, to which the country has every chance to come up with even weaker indicators, while opponents will have time and arguments for treating the masses.

The direction that we usually call nationalism is developing separately. But it would be more correct to call it radical patriotism, which sharply poses important questions to society. Why do we need a state that puts international legislation above national? Why do we need a state that recognizes 1990's mortgage auctions that have transferred national wealth to oligarchs? What is the value for the people of such a state? In fact, such slogans can get a dozen four, without even thinking, and argue with each of them is impossible.

The value of the state is determined by whether large masses of citizens are ready to go outside in its defense. Exit not for 500 rubles per hour and not by order of the head under the threat of dismissal, but at the call of the heart. If people prefer to be "patriots" at home in front of the TV, or even more so to go out en masse against their own state, then the fate of such a state is extremely unenviable. For example, by 1917, the citizens of the Russian Empire suddenly discovered that they no longer needed the empire. That is why Nicholas II could not find at the critical moment a single true to himself unit.

If Russia is doomed to revolution, then precisely radical patriotism will become its ideology. Just because there is no other idea that the population could be carried away by it, because they are tired of all the quarter century Terry liberalism disguised as a great power, where we have seen the divergence of words and deeds for many years.

We will not go far for an example. Yes, the president returned Crimea to Russia, correcting historical Khrushchev’s mistake, which was repeatedly reported to us by all federal media and officials. But what about another, even more terrible mistake of Nikita Sergeevich? We are talking about the transfer of the Naursky and Shelkovsky region (at that time absolutely Russian in national composition) from the Stavropol Territory to the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic in 1957. Unlike the Crimea, Russians in these lands really suffered and exterminated by tens of thousands. By right of the winner, the Kremlin could and should have returned these areas back to the Stavropol Territory, but this was not done. And this is just one example.

At the moment, there is an organizational crystallization of those who are dissatisfied with the current path of the country's movement, primarily economic. The program of Glazyev that was announced not so long ago became the flag around which opponents of the current liberal economic course are grouped. In fact, the patriots of the economy make the last attempt to reach the first person of the state by peaceful means. If their requests are not heard, then tectonic shifts will begin in the very near future both in the Center and in the regions. Their echoes are already audible, for example, in the case of a deputy from Karelia, who said in May that if the Russian Federation does not see the plight of the republic, then a referendum should be held and separated.

There are no grounds for considering a full-scale civil war in Russia modeled on the 1917-23 years. if only because for such a war we need two full-fledged parties, behind which the masses stand. Both whites and reds had such a resource. For radical patriots today there is popular support. For liberals - no. Non-system liberals can count on the party level "peace march" that, as already mentioned, a drop in the ocean, even by the standards of Moscow. The system liberals have far greater resources: they have the power and financial capabilities of the state under them - but these resources will operate smoothly until the system created by them begins to crumble openly. Without control over the power apparatus and the budget, the system liberals are nothing and can not be called.

Now it is very fashionable to talk about the red lines. According to a subjective assessment of a fairly wide range of experts - political scientists, historians, economists - the Russian leadership is now just before such a line. If you slow down right now, then you can stop a millimeter in front of the abyss. If a little later - no longer.

I regularly monitor the speeches of patriotic independent economists and notice the pattern: every month their statements about the country's leadership and the first person personally become more and more radical. Similarly with independent political analysts. Moreover, these people cannot yet be called radical patriots in the full sense of this concept, but they are literally drifting in that direction. What will happen next year, to the elections-2016, it is difficult to even imagine.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 5 November 2015 05: 48 New
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    there is a new discrepancy between patriotic rhetoric and liberal content
    hell knows about "rhetoric and filling", but comrade Putin earned his disadvantages for sure, people say that in perplexity, do not say anything. And even to hell with Serdyukov, since they are trying to convince us that this is HHP, and that he is awesome helped the army, ridding it of the corrupt and other military (even rzhu)! but with Vasilyeva, an overkill.
    1. svp67
      svp67 5 November 2015 06: 02 New
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      hi
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      .And even to hell with him with Serdyukov, since they are trying to convince us that this is KHP, and that he helped the army awesomely, having saved it from the corrupt and other military personnel (like a rye)!

      Okay, let's leave that "dark page" from his life, but someone will show me, and how did he distinguish himself so much in a new place, in a research institute? What made him so "effective" there is that now our KAMAZ trucks are simply "above the stars" ... There is a question, but the answer is SILENCE. Say, it was not his level, for me his level, for about fifteen years, somewhere in Mordovia at some kind of logging, and not because I am so bloodthirsty, just other such "effective" may take the mind.
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      but with Vasilieva, an obvious bust.
      - IT'S SOFTLY SAID.
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      but minuses to himself comrade Putin earned for sure

      One of them is definitely mine.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 5 November 2015 07: 41 New
        -37
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        but the minuses to himself comrade Putin earned for sure, people say that at a loss

        Quote: svp67
        One of them is definitely mine.

        For the Crimea and the army? Yes, ... the war is going on, the battle of Stalingrad is thundering, and in the rear two patriots, sitting under a banner "everything for the front, everything for victory", are arguing; "the people are starving, that's a minus for Stalin." wassat
        Which however brought out the appearance on behalf of the whole people.
        Well, tell Joni Teft the following words; "a donut hole for him, not Putin," just tell him, he will understand laughing
        ZY Yesterday, a friendly crowd was eagerly shouting glory to Putin, but now "minus", as all is tolerant, with such patriots the kerdyk will come soon ...
        Article gives someone? wishful thinking, in reality, in general with nya.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 5 November 2015 08: 15 New
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          Quote: SPACE
          ... the war is going on, the battle of Stalingrad is raging, and in the rear two patriots are sitting under the banner "everything for the front, everything for victory" are talking; "the people are starving, that's why Stalin is minus"

          Nichrome analogy to uv.Demian! do we have invaders? someone invaded? is the war on our land? no? then why are these blah-blah-blah? if you are attached to a "warm place", or simply maniacally agree to endure what is called "internal politics" - your business, and people do not like housing and utilities bills, education and medicine at all, and your meat , they are ready to break the British flag, they are patriots, but this does not mean that they should endure hardships, looking at the bureaucratic lawlessness.
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 5 November 2015 10: 13 New
            -19
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            nichrome to itself analogies of uv. Demyan! what have we, invaders? someone invaded? is war going on in our land? not?

            And what is sanction ?, and the Cold War, wasn’t it a war ?, and information stuffing is also not a war, isn’t it? Well, you give a pancake! Or until the rooster pecks in ... Although to whom I ask these questions?))) Already a little shell-shocked on the whole head, with fragments of the next high-explosive bomb fool Well then, put a flag in your hands, a drum around your neck and you go on ... to the barricades for Vasilisa the Trojan, and don’t forget to return Crimea along the way ho ha ha ha, in the end it’s really your problem, let your head hurts ... well, let's fight, with enemies, put a minus, patriots la laughing blind men ...
          2. morozik
            morozik 5 November 2015 11: 31 New
            -1
            It’s real, Putin is to blame for everything ... The enemy has invaded us - yes, for you the Donbass is your hut from the edge, for me it is the second Motherland. There is a concept of the Russian world, dear. Occupation - you do not see that the Central Bank is buying up pieces of paper? half of the national income goes to their purchase - a tribute to the invaders. We pay 300 billion a year - calculate the per capita tax. Putin in domestic politics is the guarantor of the constitution, not the appointee. You did not notice that the breeze blew changes, starting with Glazyev ... Look at the behavior of Zyuganov and Mironov ... People, unlike you and the author of the article, understand more fortunately. Only information on TV channels that, as you know, belong to a state other than our own, is served in such a way as to confuse and create discontent! Is it really incomprehensible that one simply cannot break with the fifth column in power, but Putin’s tactics are correct. Only assistants are few, because it’s easier to scream with foam at the mouth about bribes (to you, Navalny, is his main topic) than to think and analyze!
            1. kot28.ru
              kot28.ru 5 November 2015 12: 42 New
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              Little helpers? GDP has all the siloviki in control, with ISIS bombs, with conditional corruption and oud, ridiculous fines! You can slammyzat lemons five hundred, provide a family, maybe, rarely, burn down and give a term, NO MORTGAGE! And amnesties for amnesties pace! We are not the 37th! It's a pity! When I look at pliers for 4000 re on public procurement, it’s stupid to ask what they are from and who put the difference in your pocket?
            2. Marxist
              Marxist 5 November 2015 20: 21 New
              +7
              And what is the sanction ?, 

              The banal capitalist method of GM and BAE Systems of eliminating competitors such as the GAZ Group and Almaz-Antey. Typical showdown oligarchs.
              And they do not interfere with Comrade. Shuvalov to get real estate in London, comrade Zheleznyak train his daughters in Switzerland, and comrade Peskov marry an American citizen.
              information stuffing

              There is such a concept - "yellow press". You know, no?
              There is no talk about any "wars", there is a pursuit of the readers' rating.
              and don’t forget to return Crimea on the way ho ha ha ha,

              Do not wait, sir.
          3. LvKiller
            LvKiller 5 November 2015 20: 31 New
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            I read it, could not stand it. You see, dear, we were invaded in the 90s, until now people of the "Reich 4 version" in the Urals read lectures that it is time for Siberia to become "Ukraine". Are these your people? Not? Who? Russians are still being watered with mud in Russia. Your people? It seems to me, good sir, that you are either impenetrably uninformed or too well paid. Bad blindness, dears.
        2. stas-xnumx
          stas-xnumx 5 November 2015 09: 36 New
          -2
          with literacy you have big gaps ....
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 5 November 2015 10: 20 New
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            Russia is inevitably moving, with a liberal-oligarchic leadership, towards the situation "the upper classes cannot, the lower classes do not want."

            The people should have a goal program to build a socially just society in Russia, which should be led by opposition mass parties, whose programs have similar goals. One of them is the Communist Party.
            Without the organizing power of the party, all the discontent of the people, in the struggle for social justice, will result in a worthless zilch so that they do not write bad things about the parties.

            The current oligarchic leadership does not want to build a socially just society, they are satisfied with the state of plunder of Russia in the interests of a narrow group of oligarchs.
            They rely on well-fed security forces and private security "armies" of the Kolomoisky type. This is their protection and social basis, thanks to which they want to stay in power.
            Revolution is bad. Therefore, all patriotic popular forces need, first of all, to take advantage of the upcoming elections to the State Duma in order to change the situation in favor of the people.
            Well, if the mass falsification of the elections triumphs again, the rigging of their results, as it was before, then in the case of aggravation of the socio-economic conditions of life, there can be anything.
            But even here one cannot do without a mass nationwide party defending the ideology of social justice, otherwise everything will turn into a kind of Kiev Maidan, the result of which the United States will use with its "cookies".
            1. Belousov
              Belousov 5 November 2015 10: 37 New
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              And what essentially differs the Communist Party from Just Russia or the Liberal Democratic Party? Only the color of the flag. And from EdRa? Similarly.
              Over the years of constant defeats, the Communist Party has not changed in any way, it does not evolve, so they are satisfied with the role of the crowd. Everyone in warm chairs, actively criticizing the authorities, portraying violent activity, go on May Day and November 7th. That's all...
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 5 November 2015 10: 50 New
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                And what essentially differs the Communist Party from Just Russia or the Liberal Democratic Party? Only the color of the flag. And from EdRa? Similarly.
                - Belousov

                Before you write this, at least look at the program documents, the goals of these parties.
                Compare their social bases. What do they defend, at least in the same State Duma.
                Do not know do not write. Or do you think that the same Communist Party would call for an armed struggle against the current government, instead of a political struggle within the framework of existing laws?
                It is necessary to understand at least a little the alignment of political forces in Russia. And do not write nonsense.
                1. Belousov
                  Belousov 5 November 2015 12: 51 New
                  +3
                  It was also written on the fence, but there was firewood. So it is with program documents. You can write anything you want, but the bills in the State Duma are passed almost unanimously, which speaks of their support, including by the "communists".
                2. Belousov
                  Belousov 5 November 2015 12: 51 New
                  -1
                  It was also written on the fence, but there was firewood. So it is with program documents. You can write anything you want, but the bills in the State Duma are passed almost unanimously, which speaks of their support, including by the "communists".
                3. Buffalo
                  Buffalo 5 November 2015 20: 28 New
                  +8
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  It is necessary to understand at least a little the alignment of political forces in Russia. And do not write nonsense

                  This is not bullshit! Unfortunately, this is a fact. Zyuganov yap and a coward. Having won the election, he failed to defend and take advantage of the victory. For a long time led a compromising policy. He surrendered or dispersed all decent people in his circle, such as Kharitonov. - Afraid of internal competition. Where was Zu when they fought for the USSR in Moscow, near the White House? He warmed his ass in the south!
                  It’s time for him to go under the knee and rest!
              2. Revmirovich
                Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 50 New
                +3
                Pocket pro-Kremlin "opposition" that lives and exists not at the expense of party contributions, but at the expense of handouts from the Kremlin.
                This is not the opposition, but the appearance of the opposition and divorce for suckers.
                There can be bees against honey.
            2. Belousov
              Belousov 5 November 2015 10: 38 New
              +1
              And what essentially differs the Communist Party from Just Russia or the Liberal Democratic Party? Only the color of the flag. And from EdRa? Similarly.
              Over the years of constant defeats, the Communist Party has not changed in any way, it does not evolve, so they are satisfied with the role of the crowd. Everyone in warm chairs, actively criticizing the authorities, portraying violent activity, go on May Day and November 7th. That's all...
            3. morozik
              morozik 5 November 2015 11: 19 New
              +4
              The Communist Party has once ruined the country. Is it not clear that Zyuganov should be kept to collect at least some part of the electorate. This is a puppet. How much time is being said about changing the Constitution (Bystrykin, Fedorov, Starikov, Katasonov, etc.) - and here is the progress - recently Zyuganov talked about it on TV - he feels where the wind of change is blowing ... and then Mironov, who has changed white ribbon on St. George ... Kremlin puppets, in principle, show that there is not much time left for change
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 5 November 2015 13: 21 New
                +9
                Communist Party once ruined the country
                Putin, Medvedev, Matvienko, Rogozin and others, others all were members of the CPSU.
          2. evge-malyshev
            evge-malyshev 5 November 2015 10: 52 New
            0
            Yes, and you do not shine: the red line begins with a capital letter.
          3. T-73
            T-73 5 November 2015 18: 42 New
            0
            maybe "problems"?
        3. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 5 November 2015 09: 37 New
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          When "the war is going on, the battle of Stalingrad is thundering," Serdyukov should already be standing at the wall, and here it is not 37 years old.
        4. tomket
          tomket 5 November 2015 12: 12 New
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          Quote: SPACE
          "the people are starving, that's a minus for Stalin."

          Dear, and yet Stalin and his entourage also did not fatten. By the way, Stalin did not call Hitler a partner, and did not shake his hand.
          1. Gulo
            Gulo 5 November 2015 21: 29 New
            0
            Times and customs change. Stalin did not give Hitler a hand; he simply did not meet with him. But Roosevelt and Churchill stung. And to call a partner ... when Putin calls someone a partner, listen to the intonation. Truly rich and diverse Russian language.
        5. avdkrd
          avdkrd 5 November 2015 12: 14 New
          -1
          Quote: SPACE
          For the Crimea and the army? Yes, ... the war is going on, the battle of Stalingrad is thundering, and in the rear two patriots, sitting under a banner "everything for the front, everything for victory", are arguing; "the people are starving, that's a minus for Stalin."
          Which however brought out the appearance on behalf of the whole people.

          I have another analogy - at the height of the war, Stalin exchanged Vlasov for Paulus and appointed front commander .... something like that
        6. antoXa
          antoXa 5 November 2015 15: 35 New
          -4
          SPACE
          it’s just that people gathered here who believe that their level of knowledge of the situation in the state and in its highest echelons, as well as about the situation in the world as a whole, allows them to judge Putin))) to put him minuses and pluses))))
          it is unlikely that comrades Andrei Yuryevich and svp67 are related to Teft))), they just think that something depends on their specific opinion, well, let them think, let them put the cons))) there you have been instructed)))
        7. the most important
          the most important 5 November 2015 16: 31 New
          +6
          Putin himself said that he is responsible for everything! If we accept that the president is only the Crimea, then he did the thing - a chest medal and go boldly !! Let the other president deal with other problems. And if you want to be in power for 24 years, then you need to solve ALL problems (!!!!), and not rest on our laurels for solving one problem out of a million available! Maybe all the same, it’s not enough when only 1 out of a million problems is solved (even a thousand !!), and the rest 999 will be left to whom? Medvedev ??? So he didn’t decide anything at all in his term.
      2. lotar
        lotar 5 November 2015 08: 44 New
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        Regarding Serdyukov and why they can’t put him in prison, in principle we can say the following:
        First: this person has tremendous incriminating evidence on the current government.
        Secondly: they don’t surrender their
        Thirdly: he is a hero of the Russian Federation, and the heroes, as you know, have immunity for prosecution.
        I’m not joking about the hero, he was given him for real though it’s not known why.
        There are also in the fourth and fifth, but the first three are enough.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 31 New
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          Quote: lotar
          Regarding Serdyukov and why they can’t put him in prison, in principle we can say the following:
          First: this person has tremendous incriminating evidence on the current government.
          Secondly: they don’t surrender their
          So where is the place of such power - on the bunk, or at the helm of the country?

          Thirdly: he is a hero of the Russian Federation, and the heroes, as you know, have immunity for prosecution
          It's a bullshit.
        2. sa-ag
          sa-ag 5 November 2015 11: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: lotar
          First: this person has tremendous incriminating evidence on the current government.

          A person who does not have a roof from Rockefeller with such compromising material will not live long, heart failure usually ...
        3. Revmirovich
          Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 15 New
          +4
          SMerdyukov enters the class of the highest bureaucratic nomenclature, which is a caste of the untouchables. Therefore, everything is allowed to him. And Vasiliev is just a switchman. Putin created it on the principle of personal loyalty, which prevails over all other interests, and the interests of the people, in particular.
          In fact, this bureaucratic nomenclature is not uniform, but consists of two groups that are at war with each other: security forces and liberals (from the economic and social blocs of the Government). Putin is the type of breeder between them who regulates the balance of interests. He wants to be good for everyone. But someday he will still have to choose: the interests of the people, or the interests of the bureaucratic exploiting class. And very soon.
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 6 November 2015 00: 26 New
            +1
            Plus to you, for the love of Dostoevsky and for everything Russian.
            Smerdyukov is strong, even stylish.smile
        4. g1v2
          g1v2 5 November 2015 17: 18 New
          -6
          Yeah, but the option that Serdyukov did a good military reform and thanks to him we now have a combat-ready army instead of the indecency that was in the 90s, of course, racial patriots cannot imagine. That, for example, most of the scandal was virtual and existed only in the media. That the reason for the scandal was the departure of a little bit from Zubkov’s daughter to Vasilyeva, for example. And that for several years of deep digging, sk and the prosecutor's office found only a road built by the thieves. wink Damn, that’s the thing - the road. You can’t build good roads to Russia even by pulling. For this he suffered, poor fellow. laughing
          1. tupolev-95
            tupolev-95 5 November 2015 23: 28 New
            +2
            You are apparently quite far from the army. Where did you see the reform? The situation in our MO was well described after the 5-day war - "only a fool will pour water into a barrel without closing the drain, because the water will flow out and only a fool will not pour, because the barrel will dry up and fall apart." water (money) started flowing and a new technique, a new form appeared, money allowances were raised, but this is not a reform - this is just an increase in funding, for "reform" there is still a lot of work to do. How much "water has flowed under the bridge" - God alone knows. "We have a combat-ready army" - in comparison with Ukraine - perhaps yes. "The indecency of the 90s" fought for a pittance in Chechnya, perished in the compartments of the "Kursk", huddled with families in shabby hostels like this what to choose expressions.
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 5 November 2015 06: 28 New
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      to hell with him with Serdyukov, since they are trying to convince us that this is KHP, and that he helped the army awesomely, saving it from corrupt and other military
      Recently, my former colleague (I myself have already retired) was driving a general and an escort to the hotel in a private car. So, this same general raised Serdyukov to heaven! Like, Serdyukov did not take off a single general ... I know that there were generals who themselves quit, not wanting to serve next to this ....
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 5 November 2015 06: 58 New
        +5
        Cool)) Some people scandalized me "minus"))) Silly person. Personally, I am totally against Serdyukov. And I wrote a comment in order to show that not everyone is against this type.
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 5 November 2015 09: 41 New
          +9
          Yes, under Serdyukov, comrades "at the trough" received such opportunities for theft - one order number 400 is worth it! You have money - you can share it as you want.
          1. subbtin.725
            subbtin.725 5 November 2015 10: 03 New
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            Quote: Tupolev-95
            one order No. 400 what is it worth! Money is on you - divide it as you want.

            I know what this is about. Bro military, constantly at the firing ranges, directly from the l / s. So, by this order is always in flight. What to do - well, we are not accustomed to ass lick and serve. So, really, yours .And there is still compromising evidence on GDP.
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 37 New
              +4
              Quote: subbtin.725
              But there is still compromising evidence on GDP.
              There can only be compromising evidence if Putin has committed a crime — moreover, disclosure of information about which is much worse than all the Sedyukovs, hermits, Chubais and anti-people’s laws combined.
              1. subbtin.725
                subbtin.725 5 November 2015 10: 52 New
                +2
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                There can only be compromising evidence if Putin committed a crime

                Not necessarily. Everyone has, or had, weaknesses, the so-called "skeletons in the closet" ... unfortunately. There are no saints.
                1. sa-ag
                  sa-ag 5 November 2015 11: 24 New
                  +4
                  Quote: subbtin.725
                  Not necessarily. Everyone has, or had, weaknesses, the so-called "skeletons in the closet" ... unfortunately. There are no saints.

                  or account that can be arrested
                2. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 11: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: subbtin.725
                  Not necessary
                  Required.
                3. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 5 November 2015 13: 34 New
                  +9
                  unfortunately there are no saints
                  The level of holiness is different. The people will not be offended at me when I become a sovereign and look after myself a gymnast. But in order for the people to count for the good, the land given out for "lease", it will already be necessary to have a whole state of telepropagandons.
                4. PValery53
                  PValery53 5 November 2015 23: 59 New
                  +1
                  His biggest "crime" against the people is that he covered the "rear" of his predecessor-villain.
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 6 November 2015 03: 05 New
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                    Quote: PValery53
                    His biggest "crime" against the people is that he covered the "rear" of his predecessor-villain.

                    it is such a difficult question that it is not worth considering.
              2. naive1966
                naive1966 6 November 2015 01: 22 New
                0
                Maybe the murder of Rokhlin?
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 6 November 2015 03: 03 New
                  -1
                  Quote: naive1966
                  Maybe the murder of Rokhlin?

                  And here is Putin ??? do not confuse time and space ..
                  change your nickname to Inquisitive - for example ..
            2. tupolev-95
              tupolev-95 5 November 2015 11: 27 New
              +8
              Here it is not only about money - this "golden donkey" destroyed entire military collectives. It is inconvenient for command, you don’t lick whoever needs it, you don’t want to "cover the percentage" - in flight. It is clear who, in such conditions, "went up". In one, by the way, the combat unit, it came to a fight between wives - why one is so much, while the other is so much. I heard a story, I hope true, about how one submarine commander gave up the 400th for his crew, said: either to everyone, or no one - we serve in the same boat, how will I divide people into worthy and unworthy? If this is true, then for such a commander and into fire and water. But this is rather an exception.
            3. Gardamir
              Gardamir 5 November 2015 13: 26 New
              +4
              But there is still compromising evidence on GDP.
              Where are the daughters? Let the "king" show the heirs to the people.
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              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 5 November 2015 20: 20 New
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                Quote: Gardamir
                Where are the daughters? Let the "king" show the heirs to the people.

                Maybe addresses with phone numbers? So that anyone, from the secret services of "partners" to terrorists, could contact them in order to influence the president? To put it simply, take hostage or commit a terrorist attack.
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 6 November 2015 03: 01 New
                  0
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  Maybe addresses with phones?

                  The irony of Alexander is understandable, but rather he meant the rumor about the life of one abroad and the second - married to a foreigner .. although for me this also seems to be speculation ..
            4. Gulo
              Gulo 5 November 2015 21: 45 New
              +1
              Yes, there is compromising evidence on everyone, including you, dear subbtin.725. I read that during the excavations they found the gospel of Judah, so this is something like compromising evidence on Jesus. Everything can be in our judicial world.
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 5 November 2015 11: 10 New
            13
            Quote: Tupolev-95
            Yes, under Serdyukov, comrades "at the trough" received such opportunities for theft - one order number 400 is worth it! You have money - you can share it as you want.

            "The rule of law is determined not by the presence of thieves, but by the ability of the authorities to neutralize them."

            I wonder how the authorities suddenly begin to neutralize itself? request
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 5 November 2015 11: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: BecmepH
          . I personally am categorically against Serdyukov. And he wrote a comment in order to show that not everyone is against this type.


          Do not twist. You have expressed everything correctly, and (-) and (+) are just signs that indicate a person's attitude to what you have written. "... praise and slander, receiving indifferently, and do not challenge a fool ...". Remember? yes
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 6 November 2015 00: 33 New
            0
            and (-) and (+) are just icons indicating a person’s attitude to what you wrote

            I agree. I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that many readers do not always understand the meaning of what is written and sculpt minuses already by inertia. After all, others have already set minuses in front of them.
            Seen many times.
    3. sherp2015
      sherp2015 5 November 2015 06: 56 New
      +9
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      hell knows about "rhetoric and filling", but comrade Putin earned his disadvantages for sure, people say that in perplexity, do not say anything. And even to hell with Serdyukov, since they are trying to convince us that this is HHP, and that he is awesome helped the army, ridding it of the corrupt and other military (even rzhu)! but with Vasilyeva, an overkill.


      Why do we need a state that recognizes collateral auctions of the 1990s that transferred national wealth to oligarchs? What is the value for the people of such a state?

      Quote: dengy12
      dengy12 (2) Today, 05:56 New
      Why do we need a state that puts international law above national?
      support the gcd
      collection of signatures for the referendum http://refnod.ru/
      We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

      2 required articles:

      - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of universally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws (ban on the external management of Russia).

      - The abolition of Article 13, Part 2, the ban on ideology (without ideology, the country has no goal, no national idea).

      2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

      - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

      - The abolition of Article 75, Part 2, on the independence of the Central Bank (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).



      All that is true.
      Only revolutions and coups after which rivers of blood flow, and the life of the Russian people is no longer necessary. Trotsky, Sverdlovs, Blumkins, and other evil spirits, which will finally plunder and finish it, will surely crawl into the country's leadership.
      1. WINovikov
        WINovikov 5 November 2015 09: 11 New
        +7
        Crawl through! And all with a characteristic reprimand and with characteristic faces.
      2. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 39 New
        +9
        Quote: sherp2015
        Trotsky, Sverdlovs, Blumkins, and other evil spirits, which will finally plunder and finish it, will surely crawl into the country's leadership.
        And therefore, sit and do not rock the boat - right? smile
      3. Revmirovich
        Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 25 New
        +1
        Trotsky, in his work "Revolution Betrayed" almost 100 years ago, described exactly what would happen in 1990 and after it. After the Civil War, he did not climb into the leadership, he was excommunicated from there. So before you write something, it would be worthwhile to study the issue beforehand.
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 5 November 2015 07: 06 New
      27
      The guarantor constantly distances himself from high-profile (in the bad sense of the word) appointments, court cases, and decisions made by the government .... At least once admitted that this is his willful decision ..
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      there is a new discrepancy between patriotic rhetoric and liberal content
      hell knows about "rhetoric and filling", but comrade Putin earned his disadvantages for sure, people say that in perplexity, do not say anything. And even to hell with Serdyukov, since they are trying to convince us that this is HHP, and that he is awesome helped the army, ridding it of the corrupt and other military (even rzhu)! but with Vasilyeva, an overkill.
    5. Skif83
      Skif83 5 November 2015 08: 52 New
      17
      GDP is panicky afraid of its environment, and, especially, new people in it ...?!
      Therefore, the worn-out shabby deck is shuffled once again.
      Remember, where did the former ministers like Nurgaliyev, Ivanov, etc .... go? Yes, nowhere, they stayed there, moved from one warm chair to another without answering for anything.
      A move with a stool from the same category.
      Either the "popularly elected" does not understand what he is doing, but this is unlikely, such do not get there; or is weak in itself and cannot withstand the retinue that plays him; or he is flesh of flesh ...
      But how else?
      1. I doubt it
        I doubt it 5 November 2015 10: 42 New
        +8
        It is “flesh of flesh”. This is the only option.
        Well, there are not so many such random events. This is not a coincidence, not a fallacy. This is HIS policy.
      2. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: Skif83
        either in itself is weak and cannot withstand the retinue that plays it; either he is flesh from flesh ...
        But how else?
        No way.

        It remains to find out what he says for what he does not want, and what for what he cannot.

        For that which cannot - does not say anything.
      3. cuzmin.mihail2013
        cuzmin.mihail2013 5 November 2015 16: 43 New
        +5
        Until this collapses, nothing will change ...
    6. Hon
      Hon 5 November 2015 09: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      hell knows about "rhetoric and filling", but comrade Putin has earned his disadvantages for sure, people say that in bewilderment, say nothing.

      Yes, and do not care, ratings, still breaking records
      1. dmb
        dmb 5 November 2015 11: 40 New
        +8
        I do not draw analogies, but the notorious "rating" of a certain Mr. A. A. Shiklgruber also went off scale. And what, how much happiness did the "ratings" get?
    7. Wolverine
      Wolverine 5 November 2015 10: 32 New
      +5
      Taken off at least 50 million normal citizens. hi
  2. dengy12
    dengy12 5 November 2015 05: 56 New
    27
    Why do we need a state that puts international law above national?

    support the gcd
    collection of signatures for the referendum http://refnod.ru/
    We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

    2 required articles:

    - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of universally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws (ban on the external management of Russia).

    - The abolition of Article 13, Part 2, the ban on ideology (without ideology, the country has no goal, no national idea).

    2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

    - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

    - The abolition of Article 75, Part 2, on the independence of the Central Bank (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: dengy12
      support the gcd
      Oh, Nodovtsi again breed hamsters laughing

      In the above paragraphs, not a word of truth, but the comment is plused with such frenzy, as if it were a flock of lemings, which, in order to get to the cliff, had to put a plus sign negative
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 November 2015 10: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: Uncle Joe
        In the above paragraphs, not a word of truth, but the comment is plused with such frenzy, as if it were a flock of lemings, which, in order to get to the cliff, had to put a plus sign

        Well, then you don’t get stuck.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 11: 45 New
          +3
          Once again, the level of adequacy has gone wild.
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 15: 18 New
          +1
          Someone you confused me so much that you put all three comments plus .. laughing
          peace, friendship, chewing gum. fellow
    2. I doubt it
      I doubt it 5 November 2015 10: 46 New
      +1
      But who argues with this!
      But....
      Either we are ignoramuses, or one of two things ...
    3. Revmirovich
      Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 22 New
      +4
      Yes, this is not the place to start.
      Who will submit these bills to the Duma? That's right, nobody. Means there should be oppositional current deputies.
      After the creation of opposition, including among the deputies of the State Duma, it is necessary to amend the Constitution of Russia in terms of articles on electoral law. After all, now it is not we who choose the type of "people's" deputies, but the parties for which we vote. Further, the parties that have gained a percentage of votes (more than 5%) already from among themselves elect deputies, according to the number of seats in the Duma in proportion to the% of the vote. Thus, the Duma deputies are responsible not to their voters, but to the parties that nominated them there.
      That’s why they do what they want there, namely: they pass anti-people’s laws, they don’t control the executive branch, they do whatever they want, and even don’t go to meetings without having lower control from the voters. Our role ends after we drop the ballot in the ballot box. Nothing depends on us further. Hence all our troubles.
      Power lives its own life, we live ours. The fact that they are like "servants of the people" is written only on paper and empty words.
      The Soviet regime differs from the current one, licked with ovish themes in that a People’s Deputy of any level, starting from the village council and ending with the Supreme Council (Duma), was controlled by voters. Reported to him for the work before them. He could be recalled if he could not cope with his duties ahead of schedule, call new elections, and elect a new deputy in his place.
      Legislative power is supreme in relation to the executive.
      Executive is the President and the Government. The president is elected by direct vote. He appoints the government himself.
      Since the triumph of anarchocommunism, in which there will be no state, and therefore no laws, is still very far away, now we live according to the laws, and not according to concepts, the Duma should adopt laws for the people, and not against it.
      But a return to a direct election system will mean a return to socialism and Soviet power. In this, socialism differs from capitalism. When the government will work not for the benefit of the minority, as it is now, but for the benefit of the majority.
      So the issue of lawmaking in terms of suffrage is the most important. And all the rest (about the Central Bank, etc.), this is only later.
      To accept them, you need the majority of the opposition in the State Duma, which could initiate and accept them. But it’s not there.
      Legislative and executive powers are merged into one and does not act in the interests of the majority. Hence all our troubles.
  3. dvg79
    dvg79 5 November 2015 06: 08 New
    18
    I have written more than once that Putin has stepped on all the rakes of Nikolai 2, God forbid that history repeats itself, it will not seem to anyone.
    1. svp67
      svp67 5 November 2015 06: 20 New
      -10
      Quote: dvg79
      I have repeatedly written that Putin stepped on all the rakes of Nicholas 2

      Well, at least one "rake" he "bent his teeth", it's me about "liberal opposition"
      1. WINovikov
        WINovikov 5 November 2015 09: 13 New
        +8
        He bent ... and then straightened it himself.
      2. Belousov
        Belousov 5 November 2015 10: 41 New
        11
        Yeah, so bent that Gazprom finances Echo matzah. Great bend ...
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 07: 49 New
      19
      Quote: dvg79
      I have repeatedly written that Putin stepped on all the rakes of Nicholas 2,

      God bless him - Nikolai-2, we painfully repeat the situation of the last years of the USSR. There are so many analogies that I won’t list .. people of my generation can easily compare hi
      it’s even so scary ..
      Correct and timely article.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 November 2015 13: 42 New
        +5
        it’s even so scary.
        It will be even scarier soon. "Heirs" on November 25 open the Yeltsin Center. guess how many lards were thrown into it.
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 15: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          it’s even so scary.
          It will be even scarier soon. "Heirs" on November 25 open the Yeltsin Center. guess how many lards were thrown into it.

          I wonder who pushes the main river about ebony, last time - iPhone (the monument opened) ..
    3. Good me
      Good me 5 November 2015 08: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: dvg79
      I have written more than once that Putin has stepped on all the rakes of Nikolai 2, God forbid that history repeats itself, it will not seem to anyone.


      And now what is happening, really, in the smallest tragic details, is like the period before the First World War.

      All the same, the observed industrial and technological lag, a similar situation with the need, but the lack of vital reforms, and much more that were interpreted THEN, and say NOW, but do nothing ...

      What is coming, Russia?
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 5 November 2015 06: 36 New
    -2
    The Americans are now using the same tactics against the Russian Federation as the Anglo-French intelligence used against the Russian Empire in the First World War: worsening the socio-economic situation through agents of influence in the highest echelons of power, a coup with the subsequent coming to the management of people who should manage this to destroy. If we really follow the classics, then they will try to combine the economic decline with military defeats.
    List of agents of American influence and military defeats in the studio .. Is Serdyukov really an agent of influence ..? So he, the cunning, contemptible paid for the foremost? He himself wanted to reign and rule over everything? Guilty of death !!
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 07: 47 New
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      Serdyukov agent of influence.

      God forbid, a patriot and an indispensable manager - at the state level .. how dare you even ..
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 5 November 2015 08: 09 New
        17
        Guys, calm down .. smile We in Russia, like Serdyukovs, are a dime a dozen, and in every industry .. A simple example from our industry, in one of the ports in which our enterprise conducts economic activities, there are two pilot services, private and ours .. The private one has tugboats, and a mooring .. Our service has nothing .. We hire a tugboat for delivering pilots .. The pilotage fee, which doesn’t cover the costs, is in a terrible minus .. The carrier receives crazy money .. from us .. There are ships , there is no berth .. You can’t build, the land is private .. We tried to refuse .. the participant is enough, but a formidable order .. we must save the market .. Not the market, but someone’s income .. to the founder of the company .. So we still hold a competition , at the carrier’s choice, but the same wins .. He submits one application ... Or they repaired the ship, swelled up Lyama 4. sold at the price of scrap metal - an indication from above of the company, the founder, which is one influential person in the Ministry of Transport .. Running, our steamboat, earning money for a government official .. And who are these people after of this, agents of influence? .. So it’s only for his management wrote ..
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 09: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: parusnik
          Guys calm down

          Of course, agents of influence - as they push towards a negative perception of the processes taking place in society .. that is, they practically do not diverge from the classical definition - an agent of influence ..
          After all, this figure does not have to be only in the highest echelons of power.
    2. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      The Americans are now using the same tactics against the Russian Federation that the Anglo-French intelligence used against the Russian Empire in the First World War: the deterioration of the socio-economic situation through agents of influence
      Exactly - we have never lived as bad as under Obama crying

      Serdyukov agent of influence ..?
      Well, of course! Moreover, for the implementation of Agent Serdyukov, it was first necessary to introduce Agent Putin - what a multi-way! belay
  5. Aksakal_07
    Aksakal_07 5 November 2015 06: 39 New
    26
    There can be no common national idea uniting the Russian oligarchs and the people they robbed!
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 5 November 2015 07: 01 New
      +5
      Quote: Aksakal_07
      There can be no common national idea uniting the Russian oligarchs and the people they robbed!

      Or maybe let there be an idea uniting not the oligarchs, but the people, the oligarchs, and so the idea of ​​a golden calf from the budget unites
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 07: 39 New
        17
        Quote: sa-ag
        Or maybe let there be an idea uniting not the oligarchs, but the people, the oligarchs, and so the idea of ​​a golden calf from the budget unites

        Why is the Juche idea bad? (self-reliance) if peeled off .. repeat
        Putin’s speech at Vostochny Cosmodrome made a painful impression - the temptation itself persuaded thievish officials and builders, at least finish it off.
        Which suggests the loss of passionarity of GDP, and given the endless shuffling of recent years, the same greasy deck of prominent and zizdets as universal and at the same time a dozen thieving officials -
        who, young and old, learned to report beautifully and what is called "making a picture"
        We are smoothly (God forbid) entering stagnation te "stagnation"
        which one great country could no longer survive ..
        avoiding problems in hurray-pictures exhaust their resources .. Let’s recall yesterday’s holiday - they themselves came up with and celebrate themselves .. gathered all the officials and students from all over Moscow and Moscow region + sincerely sympathizing with the victims of the crash and received another joyful picture while the whole country and I didn’t notice him, if it hadn’t been for the day off, they didn’t even speak.
        Yes, Putin drew attention to the country all over the world, and not with stupidity like EBN, but really with actions that provoke pride in the country and the president personally, but it's time to look at us inside the country (fatherly) and at our surroundings (extremely critical ..)
        1. anip
          anip 5 November 2015 09: 23 New
          14
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          We are smoothly (God forbid) entering stagnation te "stagnation"

          What stagnation? Crisis, eprst. That stagnation in comparison with the current "race-rises-with-kalen" is seen as super-progress.
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 09: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: anip
            What stagnation? The crisis, eprst.

            In general, this is true, but the crisis will most likely stop and dances and round dances around the fire with tambourines will continue on.
        2. sa-ag
          sa-ag 5 November 2015 19: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Why is the Juche idea bad?

          Extreme, the idea must be international
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 6 November 2015 02: 35 New
            0
            Quote: sa-ag
            Extreme, the idea must be international

            Well, firstly, having been created on the basis of Marxism-Leninism with elements of Far Eastern philosophy, by its very nature it clearly cannot reject internationalism ..
            But the funny thing is that in this idea I personally like just one phrase which is the quintessence - Reliance on one's own strength. And already around this message you can build everything else - in relation to our mentality, history, spirituality, etc. hi
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 5 November 2015 19: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Aksakal_07
      There can be no common national idea uniting the Russian oligarchs and the people they robbed!


      And if not, Dear Aksakal, a common national idea, then what kind of statehood can we talk about? But let me disagree with you, oligarchs are everywhere, both in China and in Sweden, etc., but nevertheless the states are moving forward. I think the trouble is not in the oligarchs, the trouble is in the administrative system which serves exclusively the interests of these very "crocodiles" and merged with them, turning the country into an oligarchic-administrative state. What is a national idea in this situation? This idea is not needed for dachas on the Cote d'Azur and accounts in Swiss banks.

      Something like that, colleagues. hi
  6. chikenous59
    chikenous59 5 November 2015 06: 41 New
    -15
    Quote: dengy12
    Why do we need a state that puts international law above national?

    support the gcd
    collection of signatures for the referendum http://refnod.ru/
    We propose the following amendments to the Constitution through the All-Russian Referendum:

    2 required articles:

    - Cancellation of Art. 15 part 4 on the priority of universally recognized principles and norms of international law over Russian laws (ban on the external management of Russia).

    - The abolition of Article 13, Part 2, the ban on ideology (without ideology, the country has no goal, no national idea).

    2 articles that also need to be changed, but possibly without a referendum (if we do not correct it before the referendum, then we will submit it to the referendum):

    - Amend Article 9, Part 2, on natural resources (withdraw the right to private property, nationalize natural resources).

    - The abolition of Article 75, Part 2, on the independence of the Central Bank (nationalization of the Central Bank, lower rates, the ability to print your own ruble).

    Take your time, dear.
    Putin also knows when to do what. Apparently now is not the right time.
    1. WINovikov
      WINovikov 5 November 2015 09: 18 New
      +7
      Of course, this is not the time. The time will come when we die out.
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 5 November 2015 10: 16 New
        0
        Quote: WINovikov
        Of course, this is not the time. The time will come when we die out.

        Live for 100 years, and so that diseases bypass you ..
      2. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 10: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: WINovikov
        Of course, this is not the time. The time will come when we die out.
        Not long left crying

        The health status of residents of different countries was compared by Bloomberg agency. Our country in the list of 145 countries took 97th place. We were between East Timor and Iraq.
        http://stoletnik.ru/articles/novosti/2012/08/17/rossija-nap-97-m-meste-v-reiting
        e-zdorov-ja /
    2. anip
      anip 5 November 2015 09: 24 New
      10
      Quote: chikenous59
      Putin also knows when to do what. Apparently now is not the right time.

      Well, yes, for 15 years, the right time has not come.
    3. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 5 November 2015 13: 12 New
      +5
      Okay, the first five years is not the right time, the second five years, the wrong time, the galley break for lunch, the galley-iPhone with trinkets is the wrong time. New re-election to the gallery-full carte blanche from the people, Do whatever you want, people gave trust for all actions, the wrong time. A new cold war has begun, wait for a hot one, we need to mobilize all the forces of the country to repel the enemies, cleanse the country of enemy elements, raise industry to supply the army, navy, use all the country's resources, and again the wrong time. Will it be appropriate when he is thrown out of the Kremlin (whom he is covering up) and a "revolutionary" redistribution of power in the country begins? Or maybe there is no need to wait for this, but already now, while there is the confidence of the people, to begin what the real ruler of the country and the people should do, and not a liberal defending the rights of thieves, druzhbanov and "partners".
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 14: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Tambov Wolf
        Well, yes, for 15 years, the right time has not come.

        Well, yes, for 15 years, the right time has not come.

        Conclusion: anip is a Tambov wolf, comrade ...
        just don’t beat the boys - a joke .. drinks
    4. Karabanov
      Karabanov 5 November 2015 16: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: chikenous59
      Take your time, dear.
      Putin also knows when to do what. Apparently now is not the right time.
    5. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 5 November 2015 20: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: chikenous59
      Take your time, dear.
      Putin also knows when to do what. Apparently now is not the right time.


      You know, Dear Alexander, of course there is no need to rush, but you also have to drag on, waiting for that very suitable time, this very time is running out. Unfortunately, the economic "successes" and victorious reports of our government are fundamentally different from the real state of affairs in the country. The beautiful phrases of the "next" Minister of Agriculture about the successes of the so-called import substitution in agriculture are something from the realm of fantasy, so divorced from reality that the thought of a simple human decency of the minister arises. The "reform" of healthcare has led to an increase in mortality, which is recognized even by the Federal State Statistics Service, etc., etc., it can be continued for a long time and it makes no sense. The conclusion is that we are going to the abyss, the author correctly said, and in order not to fall, we need to take radical measures, and of course, preferably political ones.
      Something like that, Dear colleagues. hi
  7. Glot
    Glot 5 November 2015 06: 46 New
    -11
    All revolutionaries and "revolutionaries", an example close at hand, from neighbors does not lead to sad thoughts?
    Do you want to merge the country completely?
    Whom do you read to replace the existing Power?
    Are you sure that they are for the good of the country and you will be working?
    These are the four questions for the "revolutionary committee" and sympathizers ...
    No, not everything is good with us, even a lot is poorly understood. And often the actions of those in power cause bewilderment, to put it mildly, and it is necessary to do something, yes, but not to overdo it with "something".
    And Putin’s analogies with H2 and from 1917 are fundamentally wrong. The wrong people at the authorities now were in the 17th, and the country is not that, not at all ...
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 5 November 2015 07: 04 New
      15
      Quote: Glot
      Do you want to merge the country completely?

      Or maybe exactly the opposite?
      Quote: Glot
      Whom do you read to replace the existing Power?

      Replacing one figure with another with an existing device will not work
      Quote: Glot
      Are you sure that they are for the good of the country and you will be working?

      And why not work hard for the good of the country? Especially if there is an incentive, for example, to build a country in which children will live better than us.
      1. Glot
        Glot 5 November 2015 08: 52 New
        -3
        Or maybe exactly the opposite?


        Can. But then, take the trouble to name a couple of names of those who can with this very "exactly the opposite"?

        Replacing one figure with another with an existing device will not work


        This is clear, but again I repeat the above question.
        Who are these "figures".

        And why not work hard for the good of the country? Especially if there is an incentive, for example, to build a country in which children will live better than us.


        And again, back to the same question - who?

        See, it all comes down to people.
        I don’t see a single figure in the circles of the opposition who could be entrusted with building the future of the country. Which could be trusted in principle.
        Or what, we will overthrow the Power and then how will it turn out? Or further, which is very possible, we will highlight and substitute the necessary figures for someone?
        Good to say: Down! What’s next, who’s next?
        Once again, look at the neighbors. They also wanted the best. What happened? Do you want the same for us? Dismiss
        1. anip
          anip 5 November 2015 09: 21 New
          +9
          Quote: Glot
          And again, back to the same question - who?

          I’m embarrassed to ask: did someone expect to see Putin as president in 1999?
          1. Glot
            Glot 5 November 2015 09: 51 New
            -7
            I’m embarrassed to ask: did someone expect to see Putin as president in 1999?


            Well, are you nostalgic for Yeltsin?
            Or what, sincerely believe that Putin jumped out of nowhere, becoming the head of the country?
            It's just that those who put it understood that it was necessary to replace the figure, since the drunkenness had already exhausted all the credits of the People's trust, and in order to reduce the intensity of patience, it was necessary to do a couple of actions to "raise the spirits" so to speak, which was done.
            Now is not the 99th year, and no one will replace Putin. Do not expect.

            Question personally:
            - Do you want to arrange a revolution and a change of Power?
            1. sa-ag
              sa-ag 5 November 2015 11: 18 New
              +5
              Quote: Glot
              - Do you want to arrange a revolution and a change of Power?

              Revolutions begin by persons close to the body
              1. Glot
                Glot 5 November 2015 11: 23 New
                -1
                Revolutions begin by persons close to the body


                This is not true. Not always like this.
                And, this is not the answer to the question.
                What would you like ? Revolutions followed by human deaths, the omission of the country and even the possibility of its complete collapse?
                Do you want a revolution?
                1. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 11: 47 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Glot
                  Do you want a revolution?
                  And what is a revolution?
                  1. Glot
                    Glot 5 November 2015 12: 12 New
                    -4
                    And what is a revolution?


                    You generally answer the meaning, or in a narrower, in relation to such terms as the political system, power, etc.?
                    Although I think you yourself can google it.

                    And the question can be rephrased.
                    Do you want a change in existing power?
                    Then again the questions:
                    - On what ?
                    - On whom ?
                    - At what cost?

                    And, at no time do I stand on the position of justifying those who are sitting in the Kremlin today and those who put them there. I also do not like much in their leadership, much does not suit and much causes disapproval, but I just look at things soberly without shouting "checkers on heads" and "forward to the barricades."
                    1. Uncle Joe
                      Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 12: 46 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Glot
                      You generally answer
                      The topic is public relations. Therefore, the corresponding value - deep qualitative progressive positive changes in social structure and relations.

                      Do you want a change in existing power?
                      Of course. And not only power, but also social relations, the system.

                      - On what ?
                      - On whom ?
                      - At what cost?
                      On the national, persons do not matter, cheaper than the thirteen-millionth super-mortality (in relation to the late Sovetsky trend) of the last 24 years.

                      I just look at things soberly without shouting "checkers on the head" and "forward to the barricades."
                      And what did you see in the things you look at?
                      1. Glot
                        Glot 5 November 2015 13: 51 New
                        -2
                        The topic is public relations. Therefore, the corresponding value - deep qualitative progressive positive changes in social structure and relations.


                        Good intentions. What exactly do you think to do next, how to achieve these profound transformations? Network rub-la-la? To Red Square with a bubble of Molotov cocktail in your bosom?
                        How do you think the country is changing?

                        Of course. And not only power, but also social relations, the system.


                        Forward. Only, as I wrote above, decide how.

                        On the national, persons do not matter


                        Ahh, that is, you do not care deeply for whom to replace today's leaders, if only to replace?
                        Then what, can you join the company of Navalny, Ksyusha Sobchak? Or you can advise us here to invite Mishiko. But what, you all have one ...
                        It is safe to quote Stolypin’s words:
                        - You need great shocks, we need Great Russia.

                        And what did you see in the things you look at?


                        And you carefully read the written, not pulling, maybe you will understand. Vlastoborets You are our network ... laughing
                      2. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 14: 59 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Glot
                        How do you think the country is changing?
                        Including network shaking-la-la.

                        Forward. Only, as I wrote above, decide how
                        This is not up to you, and it will depend on me: when I press it, I will have to restrain local idiots.

                        Ahh, that is, you do not care deeply for whom to replace today's leaders, if only to replace?
                        If there is a mechanism in my hands that allows me to hold my representatives in power accountable for actions that diverge from my interests, then I will not give a damn about the names and moral qualities of these representatives, since the government will be precisely the people’s.

                        Then what, can you join the company of Navalny, Ksyusha Sobchak?
                        Why do I need this Kremlin-created bugbear?

                        Or you can advise us here to invite Mishiko. But what, you all have one ...
                        Do you have a fantasy played out? Well, invite smile

                        It is safe to quote Stolypin’s words:
                        - You need great shocks, we need Great Russia
                        The main thing is not to forget to clarify - to whom "we".

                        And you carefully read the written, not pulling, maybe you will understand
                        No, please explain.
                      3. Glot
                        Glot 5 November 2015 15: 26 New
                        -5
                        Including network shaking-la-la.


                        I already noticed that. laughing

                        This is not up to you, and it will depend on me: when I press it, I will have to restrain local idiots.


                        Wait and see.

                        If there is a mechanism in my hands that allows me to hold my representatives in power accountable for actions that diverge from my interests, then I will not give a damn about the names and moral qualities of these representatives, since the government will be precisely the people’s.


                        Maybe you should take off your pink glasses?
                        Who will give you this mechanism? smile

                        Why do I need this Kremlin-created bugbear?


                        What do you mean why ? Together you will stand on the Swamp. laughing

                        The main thing is not to forget to clarify - to whom "we".


                        People.

                        No, please explain.


                        What exactly. Specify.
                      4. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 19: 28 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Glot
                        I already noticed that
                        Did you and your computer see a reflection in the mirror?

                        Wait and see
                        Estesna.

                        Maybe you should take off your pink glasses?
                        Definitely. Take off.

                        Who will give you this mechanism?
                        The situation called Lenin revolutionary.

                        What do you mean why ? Together on Bolotnaya will stand
                        Why should I stand there?

                        To people
                        Which one?

                        Those to whom Stolypin belonged - the big bourgeoisie tied up with bureaucracy and emerging from the aristocracy, wishing to exist in the conditions of a liberal market economy, which, according to Putin, will remain Russia?

                        What exactly. Specify.
                        What did you see in the things you look at? - It is unlikely to be more specific, since you did not bother to specify these things.
                      5. Glot
                        Glot 5 November 2015 20: 39 New
                        -3
                        Did you and your computer see a reflection in the mirror?


                        No, I see that you are not getting out of here. From morning until morning, you tirelessly "fight" in the network "for the good of the people." laughing
                        Or shkololo. Then where are the parents looking ?! laughing
                        Not ? Then go to work and don’t whine that everything is bad and everything merges!
                        WORK !!!
                        Have a family ? Then twice - WORK!
                        No ? Create, you see, "revolutionary turbidity" will fly out of your head. laughing
                        Forward my young (or not) friend! smile
                      6. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 6 November 2015 02: 36 New
                        0
                        Quote: Glot
                        No, I see that you are not getting out of here
                        In your own mirror?

                        WORK !!!
                        Work
                2. Glot
                  Glot 5 November 2015 15: 26 New
                  -1
                  Including network shaking-la-la.


                  I already noticed that. laughing

                  This is not up to you, and it will depend on me: when I press it, I will have to restrain local idiots.


                  Wait and see.

                  If there is a mechanism in my hands that allows me to hold my representatives in power accountable for actions that diverge from my interests, then I will not give a damn about the names and moral qualities of these representatives, since the government will be precisely the people’s.


                  Maybe you should take off your pink glasses?
                  Who will give you this mechanism? smile

                  Why do I need this Kremlin-created bugbear?


                  What do you mean why ? Together you will stand on the Swamp. laughing

                  The main thing is not to forget to clarify - to whom "we".


                  People.

                  No, please explain.


                  What exactly. Specify.
              2. Karabanov
                Karabanov 5 November 2015 17: 08 New
                +2
                Quote: Glot
                Ahh, that is, you do not care deeply for whom to replace today's leaders, if only to replace?
                Then what, can you join the company of Navalny, Ksyusha Sobchak? Or you can advise us here to invite Mishiko. But what, you all have one ...

                Old song ... A little something so extreme right away.
                This supposedly "impenetrable" argument is already sick of it. Well, you do not allow yourself to admit an alternative point of view, while not mixing it with all the corrupt shit.
                No, it is necessary to smear everything, to muck it, to vulgarize it. I understand that this is such a form of protection, but it no longer justifies itself and is suitable only for the marginal marginals. You see, I do not belong to this number, but still allow yourself to think more deeply and more critically, and most importantly more honestly.
              3. Glot
                Glot 5 November 2015 20: 46 New
                0
                Old song ... A little something so extreme right away.
                This supposedly "impenetrable" argument is already sick of it. Well, you do not allow yourself to admit an alternative point of view, while not mixing it with all the corrupt shit.
                No, it is necessary to smear everything, to muck it, to vulgarize it. I understand that this is such a form of protection, but it no longer justifies itself and is suitable only for the marginal marginals. You see, I do not belong to this number, but still allow yourself to think more deeply and more critically, and most importantly more honestly.


                Old or not, not the point.
                I ask this man that "Uncle Joe" is called asking: Whom do you read for the post of the head then? And he, tells him all one who. They say we will throw off Power, and then we will decide who ... That is, he longs for global changes with all his heart and soul (if he is not lying) but looks only one step forward ... And you won't go far. Especially in such a matter as global changes. The option "get involved in a fight and we'll see" will not work here. With this option, such a hmm ... an abomination can come out into the world that from him and from those who will be next to him and then they will not collect bones. smile
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  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 November 2015 13: 54 New
    +8
    Well, are you nostalgic for Yeltsin?
    Vladimir Vladimirovich himself issued a decree and rebuilt the Yeltsin Center. And already the program is ready, whitening 90s. Yeltsin’s daughter will speak under the slogan, stop calling the 90s dashing.
    So watch TV. You have already been "explained" that Serdyukov, the great rebuilder of the army, will now tell you about Yeltsin how he saved the country.
    1. Glot
      Glot 5 November 2015 14: 21 New
      +1
      Vladimir Vladimirovich himself issued a decree and rebuilt the Yeltsin Center. And already the program is ready, whitening 90s. Yeltsin’s daughter will speak under the slogan, stop calling the 90s dashing.
      So watch TV. You have already been "explained" that Serdyukov, the great rebuilder of the army, will now tell you about Yeltsin how he saved the country.


      I will greatly disappoint you. I don’t watch TV practically, at all.
      As for the 90s and Yeltsin, no one personally will tell me anything, since I myself lived at this time, and through all this dusk led by a drunkard I passed. They let it to those whose date of birth is 2000 and higher tell.
      And the fact that Serdyukov and Co. place on the bunks, about 25 years old, I also understand perfectly.
      Or where did I write that Yeltsin did well and Serdyukov is a clever and restorer of the army? Show, I read. It’s even become interesting. laughing
      1. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 15: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: Glot
        And about the 90s and Yeltsin, then no one will tell me anything personally
        lol

        Putin: "Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, together with the new Russia, went the path of the most difficult but necessary transformations. He headed the process of cardinal changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a second birth. It has become a civilized open state, and the role of the first president in the formation of this state is enormous.
        It was at this time that Russia was born open and thinking about people, democratic institutions were formed, the Constitution of Russia was adopted, which proclaimed human rights and freedom as the highest value. "
        http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/02/2011/536637.shtml
        1. Glot
          Glot 5 November 2015 15: 27 New
          -2
          Putin: "Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, together with the new Russia, went the path of the most difficult but necessary transformations. He headed the process of cardinal changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a second birth. It has become a civilized open state, and the role of the first president in the formation of this state is enormous.
          It was at this time that Russia was born open and thinking about people, democratic institutions were formed, the Constitution of Russia was adopted, which proclaimed human rights and freedom as the highest value. "
          http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/02/2011/536637.shtml


          And what, did you fall for it?
          Congratulations. laughing
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 19: 38 New
            +3
            Quote: Glot
            And what, did you fall for it?
            To date, real cases have only confirmed the stated attitude.

            And do not be so nervous - you have double comments from this.
        2. Glot
          Glot 5 November 2015 15: 27 New
          -1
          Putin: "Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, together with the new Russia, went the path of the most difficult but necessary transformations. He headed the process of cardinal changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a second birth. It has become a civilized open state, and the role of the first president in the formation of this state is enormous.
          It was at this time that Russia was born open and thinking about people, democratic institutions were formed, the Constitution of Russia was adopted, which proclaimed human rights and freedom as the highest value. "
          http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/02/2011/536637.shtml


          And what, did you fall for it?
          Congratulations. laughing
      2. Karabanov
        Karabanov 5 November 2015 17: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: Glot
        Or where did I write that Yeltsin did well and Serdyukov is a clever and restorer of the army? Show, I read. It’s even become interesting.

        You know, for example, using those tricks to which you (and not only) resort to mixing critically minded people with different liberal bastards, I would say: Putin is Yours! The hero and savior of the nation! But he was posed by ALL YOU as a hated and despised drunkard Borka Yeltsin. Drunk and sold the country, its wealth, wealth, army ...
        But GDP is essentially from the same nest, its protégé and successor. But these contradictions do not fit in the head of the "hurray-patriots". Some pitiful excuses, more for themselves ... But Putin speaks directly about the great reformer of Russia and monuments are erected to him and libraries are opened.
        But this is not a task ... Such is the nuance, however.
        1. Glot
          Glot 5 November 2015 20: 53 New
          +1
          You know, for example, using those tricks to which you (and not only) resort to mixing critically minded people with different liberal bastards, I would say: Putin is Yours! The hero and savior of the nation! But he was posed by ALL YOU as a hated and despised drunkard Borka Yeltsin. Drunk and sold the country, its wealth, wealth, army ...
          But GDP is essentially from the same nest, its protégé and successor. But these contradictions do not fit in the head of the "hurray-patriots". Some pitiful excuses, more for themselves ... But Putin speaks directly about the great reformer of Russia and monuments are erected to him and libraries are opened.
          But this is not a task ... Such is the nuance, however.


          Do you seriously think that Putin is Yeltsin’s protege?
          I think that those who are theirs, and Ebna and Putin put us all and did not see and do not know. Only some. And above, if you read carefully, I mentioned that that castling of the 99th year was them made to defuse the tense situation.
          Have you decided that I don't see and don't understand what's going on? What is not clear to me how my Country is rolling? I assure you, I see and understand. I just do not like to scream in vain over the networks "down with" and the like.
          1. Karabanov
            Karabanov 6 November 2015 04: 17 New
            +3
            Quote: Glot
            I think that those who are theirs, and Ebna and Putin put us all and did not see and do not know.

            I think so too. But in this case, the situation is even worse ...
            Quote: Glot
            Have you decided that I do not see and do not understand what is happening? What is not clear to me, my country is rolling? I assure, see and understand.

            And then what is your message? Lock yourself and work? And all by itself will resolve?
            And among the manual and untwisted opposition, there are no normal ones. It was created for contrast, only to evoke odious feelings in people.
            But nobody will really allow individuals concerned about the fate of the country. Therefore, the appearance of the indispensability of those in power is created, and hysteria of the type is being pumped up - what did the 17th year want again? And you seem to me succumbed to this too.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 6 November 2015 01: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Gardamir
      Gardamir

      Dear Gardamir! hi
      It is perfectly clear to you and me that the current president is the successor of the "glorious" deeds of the ebna, who in his youth was christened a "kingdom" already in 89, as the burial of Soviet power.
      It is necessary to dance from this "stove", as liberals danced from Lenin's "stove".
      Many of our compatriots do not quite understand the origin of the regime and therefore are drowning in their own illusions about the nature and essence of the current government ...
      And here some metamorphoses take place ... we must clearly understand that we are not against "Putin", "hedgehog" or "watermelon", but against the existing capital system.
      And if you don’t understand this, then there will be another other protege, shmaigo, labirov, rodogozin or vrobyaninov kitty wink
      just ahead of the struggle, hard, but it’s for the sake of life, otherwise .....
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  • Turkir
    Turkir 6 November 2015 00: 42 New
    0
    I’m embarrassed to ask: did someone expect to see Putin as president in 1999?

    I'm shy to answer ..
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  • Belousov
    Belousov 5 November 2015 10: 47 New
    +2
    The neighbors didn’t want the best, but the more convenient to lie down under the states. These are still different things. In addition, our country is reliably vaccinated with 90s from such Western-worshiping sentiments.
  • SALLAK
    SALLAK 5 November 2015 10: 30 New
    +4
    Well, yes, let's just sit and wait until it covers completely, and we will groan that they have delayed and now it's too late to rock the boat ...
  • stappler 2
    stappler 2 5 November 2015 06: 47 New
    13
    Quote: dvg79
    I have repeatedly written that Putin stepped on all the rakes of Nicholas 2

    he’s just a half-measurer, he hits first ... four years after the start of the war ...
  • mr.vasilievich
    mr.vasilievich 5 November 2015 07: 23 New
    14
    Indeed, Putin’s position regarding Serdyukov is not clear. After the case of Vasilyeva, Serdyukov turned out to be clean, which is very strange.
    1. anip
      anip 5 November 2015 09: 20 New
      11
      Quote: mr.vasilievich
      After the case of Vasilyeva - Serdyukov was clean, which is very strange.

      Nothing is strange, especially after numerous statements by the guarantor.
  • anfil
    anfil 5 November 2015 07: 29 New
    +1
    If the current leadership of the Russian Federation overcomes the 2016 milestone of the year, then the 2018 year will loom before them, to which the country has every chance to come up with even weaker indicators, while opponents will have time and arguments for treating the masses.


    Maybe this article is the preparation of the masses for the elections to the State Duma of the 16 of September 2016 of the year?
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 5 November 2015 10: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: anfil
      Maybe this article is the preparation of the masses for the elections to the State Duma of the 16 of September 2016 of the year?

      Vote for Bogolepov! Have everyone seen the movie? (This is such a joke).
      1. Good me
        Good me 5 November 2015 11: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: subbtin.725
        Vote for Bogolepov! Have everyone seen the movie? (This is such a joke).


        Those from the film, even though they were distributing chickens, and Bogolepovka vodka ...

        And these ... "On dry" decided to spit in the soul, relying on the rating.

        Explanation: Bogolepov is a character from the popular television series “Deadly Force” - a semi-criminal businessman in St. Petersburg, the local “vodka king” (Bogolepovka vodka), who ran for the city legislative assembly, but ended up behind bars at the end of the series
    2. SALLAK
      SALLAK 5 November 2015 10: 31 New
      +2
      Or to the revolution ...
  • Alex66
    Alex66 5 November 2015 07: 34 New
    24
    I have repeatedly written that Putin is more concerned about the international rating, now he is again recognized as the most influential person on the planet, and he spit on Russian citizens, except for demonstration campaigns. And when Ivanov says that the presidential administration is not in the know about Serdyukov’s appointment, it’s noodles that we are hung up without hesitation. And the whole power of our army will not protect the people living here, but the capital of some kind of financial group from other groups and from the people.
  • Revmirovich
    Revmirovich 5 November 2015 08: 06 New
    -7
    That's just no more revolutions are needed.
    Enough previously spilled blood.
    Then what to do?
    Engage in the education and agitation of the masses from where all of this legs grow.
    And they grow from the Stalinist model of socialism with the party and bureaucratic aristocracy at the top, and the plebs below. In the last, already reborn stage. Which does not tolerate constructive opposition, and therefore it does not exist. But it must be created. Which would include officers as well. Of course, I am not talking about the pro-Kremlin opposition in the person of lured LDPR, the Communist Party, and SRs, and even more so not about Parnassos and the war-less.
    Opposition is needed to create, discuss and approve the Country’s Economic Development Plan for at least the next five years, but plans should be made for 20-25 years. These are the optimal dates for long-term planning. Here, only during its development, that is, at the first stage, a bunch of non-professionals, mediocrity, and loafers, who are now sitting in chairs, eat free bread and slow down development processes will come to light. Which could be replaced by people from the opposition who want to work for the good of the country, are able to do this, have the necessary professional qualities and experience. To avoid revolutions, it is necessary for the people to present a real plan for the development of the country for 20-25 years with a breakdown into five-year plans, not slogans. So that everyone knows that as a result of the implementation of this plan, not only economic indicators will increase and the defense capability of our country will be strengthened, but also his personal well-being and the well-being of his children and grandchildren will improve.
    I am for a dictatorship in relation to power, and complete freedom in relation to the people.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 09: 04 New
      +9
      Quote: Revmirovich
      To avoid revolutions, it is necessary for the people to present a real development plan for the country for 20-25 years

      The Medvedev’s government can’t calculate the situation for more than 1 year, even rather situevina, and you have been talking about such a chasm for years .. It’s time for officials to get a minimum task and to dump the wind without bricks - maximum
      1. Revmirovich
        Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 04 New
        -1
        This means that people do not take their place, do not have the necessary level of professionalism, moral qualities, or even a desire to work and do something. Putin, who is not an economist by training, has been brainwashed that the transition from 3-year planning to one-year planning is a necessity. And he believes them as if they were "specialists." Because there is no alternative opinion.
        Like the late communists of the 70s and 80s: "approved", period. It was this "approval" that led to the collapse of the Country and their party.
        The early and middle communists, no matter what mistakes they made, lived and worked according to plans. Therefore, these were the results. The capitalists, by the way, also live according to plans and they have a state-regulated economy.
        Ours rule in manual mode, plugging one gap, as another appears right there.
        There is no need to be seven spans in the forehead to give an order to write a plan, it is enough to recall the decree of Peter from 1707:

        “If you please, declare at the congress in Polat all the ministers who are going to konsilia, so that they write down all the things that they advise, write down and with each hand the minister signs that it’s evil, it’s necessary that they didn’t define any business, because stupidity will be revealed. "

        Neither add nor decrease. This is a plan that is signed by all the persons who made it up. And do not talk in tongues, so that later they will not answer for anything
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 12: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: Revmirovich
          Putin, who is not an economist by education, was rinsed
          So you want to say that, not only is the super-duper to the KGB specialist everyone who is not too lazy to rinse their brains (which, as it were, hints), so Putin's defense in 1997 at the St. Petersburg State Mining Institute of a candidate dissertation in economics is it sticky? laughing
          1. Revmirovich
            Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 47 New
            0
            Why is it necessarily linden?
            We have divorced theoreticians-docents with candidates immeasurably, but they just manage to steer something in the economy. Because besides theory, there should also be practice. Read the biographies of our liberals Kudrin, Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Chubais, Gaidar. All theorists are without exception.
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 6 November 2015 02: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Revmirovich
              We have divorced theoreticians-docents with candidates immeasurably, but they only manage to steer something in the economy
              How did you attach Vladimir Vladimirovich laughing

              Read the biographies of our liberalists Kudrin, Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Chubais, Gaidar
              Two of these are Putin’s colleagues at the St. Petersburg City Hall ...
    2. WINovikov
      WINovikov 5 November 2015 09: 23 New
      +1
      Revmirovich
      Are you a dreamer? Where is such a party?
      1. Revmirovich
        Revmirovich 5 November 2015 11: 45 New
        +2
        No, I'm just the same realist.
        You can fall off and get tired of it on the Internet, which is now replacing Soviet cuisine, but things will not go any further.
        There is no opposition, but it must be in order to create a counterweight to the ruling elite.
        Which knows what to do, and how.
        And while she is gone, all this is empty talk.
        In Russia there are many smart and competent people, real patriots, and not grabbers such as Serdyukov, hermits, etc. Which, like Glazyev, act alone, if at all.
    3. Karabanov
      Karabanov 5 November 2015 18: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Revmirovich
      That's just no more revolutions are needed.
      Enough previously spilled blood.
      Then what to do?

      Our government lives as in that expression: it wants to eat a fish and ... to sit somewhere else.
      Everywhere she sees the ghost of a domestic Maidan, under this dressing any movement directed at least somehow to change the existing situation and the established order of things is anathematized, its figures are recorded in the fifth column and declared traitors. At the same time that the actual traitors and traitors are inside the system itself.
      Because Colonel Kvachkov is in prison, and Chubais is in Rusnano. Strelkov and Kalashnikov are almost traitors, while Serdyukov is in Rostec. And the authorities do not need Glazyev with his vision of solving economic problems; it is satisfied with the existing oligarchic model, which allows them to continue to live on state natural resources.
      And at the same time, practically nothing is being done to change the situation, except for the slogans slammed about greatness and rebirth. So they are trying to sit on two chairs, although they themselves involuntarily push people to be them, to say the least, dissatisfied. And any positive movement is in every way restrained and reproached.
      If this continues, when peaceful and legal, but ignored solutions are over, then it will result in something. Are they really so stupid and do not understand that they themselves are the direct guides of the "Maidan" so terrifying for them?
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 November 2015 18: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Karabanov
        If this continues, then it will result in something. Are they so stupid and they do not understand that they themselves are the direct conductors of the "Maidan" that is so terrifying to them.

        You "+"
        but "they" are not stupid, but on the contrary cunning, cunning, treacherous and very greedy.
  • Alagez
    Alagez 5 November 2015 08: 13 New
    +3
    I’m not an analyst, of course, but it seems to me that the country is again on three roads and in there in a fairy tale, you’ll go to marry to the left (you don’t understand whom it will be) you’ll go straight, it’s worthless, it’ll be more worthless but right.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 5 November 2015 08: 49 New
    +9
    Discuss the new appointment of Anatoly Serdyukov at Rostec State Corporation it makes no sense,
    , Because no NO HEALTHY MEANINGS. fool
    To be honest, I am in "shock", as well as from the release of Vasily Ilyeva ... negative
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 5 November 2015 08: 56 New
    +8
    After all, Putin knows public opinion about Serdyukov. But he does it anyway as he sees fit. And here I think he does not care about the ratings. He does not justify himself to anyone and does not explain anything, which I consider to be a shortcoming of his policy. His unexpected moves confound not only his enemies, but also our people. We do not know what will happen tomorrow. The economic situation in the country is not so annoying as the feeling of uncertainty about what will happen tomorrow. I take into account the features of his profession, which left an imprint on his character, ways and methods of work. But the country should know, if not the details of the mechanism that drive its decisions, then at least the ultimate goals. About goals you need to talk constantly, clearly and loudly.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 11: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: vladimirvn
      I take into account the features of his profession, which left an imprint on his character, ways and methods of work
      Derektor DK?

      But the country should know, if not the details of the mechanism that drive its decisions, then at least the ultimate goals. About goals you need to talk constantly, clearly and loudly.
      Everything was said a long time ago - clearly and loudly.

  • bubla5
    bubla5 5 November 2015 08: 57 New
    13
    Next president than the current chewing snot with a smirk
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 09: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: bubla5
      Next president than the current chewing snot with a smirk

      Russian Pinochet .. also an idea, no worse than the idea of ​​Juche ..
  • Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 5 November 2015 09: 11 New
    -4
    Zhirinovsky prede order navede)))
    1. Good me
      Good me 5 November 2015 09: 22 New
      +7
      Quote: Vladimir71
      Zhirinovsky prede order navede)))


      "Order navede" is the one who, having come to power, and having support in the power structures, and the approval of the people, WANTS TO DO IT ...

      At the moment, Putin (nothing, what is it "in the forehead"?), With the first two "terms", everything is "tip-top" (YET), but with the desire (will?), Something did not work out. ..
  • anip
    anip 5 November 2015 09: 13 New
    11
    By right of the winner, the Kremlin could and should have returned these areas back to the Stavropol region, but this was not done.

    Is the Kremlin a winner? Judging by the tribute paid to them - no.

    There is no point in discussing the new appointment of Anatoly Serdyukov at Rostec State Corporation,

    It would seem, and here Putin. But hurray-Utriots will enthusiastically discuss corruption in the United States, poking a finger at what is bad, for some reason forgetting to poke a finger along the way to the place where everything is good in the USA and, moreover, much better than in the Russian Federation.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 5 November 2015 09: 14 New
    21
    Briefly about the stool, who gave birth to it, the Kremlin in the person of Putin, but now Peskov says that it’s not the Kremlin’s business where the “furniture” was appointed, then the question is, but what is interesting to the Kremlin and where is his fruitful work, the people are interested as a thief, and he is a thief and why he does not sit, but occupies high positions, if the Kremlin is not interested, why do we need such a Kremlin that is not interested in the needs of the people. Regarding the state of RUSSIA in general, I understand the GDP rating is kept at the expense of foreign policy, the annexation of Crimea, Syria, but we rebuffed the West, but let's dig deeper, part of our economic space belongs to Western monopolies, our liberals, as well as part of the government just pray to Western democracy and the economy, moreover, to the worst part of it, which implies the complete absence and participation of the people in the economy, in the possession of the people's wealth, that is, the most spontaneous and shock market, and this will still come out sideways for us. The internal policy of the authorities in the person of two lawyers has completely failed, one small stroke that shows the current situation in society in general and its division, in Moscow one of the "golden boys" staged a tragic accident back in Moscow, as it became possible when a traffic police officer 63 times to people in a Mercedes says show your documents, please, and another clown in a Mercedes runs into a police officer who can't do anything with a gun and that our higher authorities are silent, but here you need to "ring the bells." because this is a complete DISCREDITATION, the authorities, whether this could have happened under Stalin or, for example, in the states, the answer is unequivocal THIS IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE. It is from these little things that the image of our government and its ability to defend the interests of the main part of the people is formed, and the government has played with jurisprudence and irresponsibility. Mediocrity, and sometimes just criminal activity in the economic policy of the authorities has led to the fact that we have 23 million RUSSIAN CITIZENS below the poverty line, unemployment, inflation, price increases, sanctions and generally lack of thoughtful, calculated, planned, strategically sound economic policy development of the entire national economic complex in all its components. Siluyanov spoke, showing on TV 3.11.2015/40/XNUMX we went through the crisis, the Minister of Finance said, only the question arises, why did a crisis become possible in our country and what measures were the "rotten eggs" of the government, the economic bloc took so that there would be no crisis or in a soft scenario, this is in a country that has up to XNUMX% of the world's natural resources and the highest per capita availability of people with higher education in the world. Taken together, we can say so - a complete lack of professionalism, compliance with the norms of the law, morality and ethics - THIS IS THE FACE OF OUR POWER.
  • YurokR
    YurokR 5 November 2015 09: 15 New
    10
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    and people don’t like housing and communal services bills, education and medicine, and your teft, they are ready to tear on the British flag, they are patriots, but this does not mean that they should endure hardships, looking at bureaucratic chaos.

    A thousand pluses buddy !!! Personally, I still lived in the Soviet Union and the patriot of my country already has no patience to live on like this. am angry
  • Fat373
    Fat373 5 November 2015 09: 20 New
    +1
    According to the Russian Pinochet: personally, Stalin did not shoot anyone. They shot with rapture, wrote denunciations and the like, relatives, friends and acquaintances. Who will we appoint as suiami? Lumpenov? The oligarchs? Akhedzhakova? Otozh they judge you.
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 5 November 2015 09: 33 New
    +9
    One of the mighty problems is that the law is not the same for everyone. And what’s most interesting - everyone knows that. Naturally, such a situation will not be able to last long.
    It is necessary to change both the people and the system, but the people in the system will resist to the last (who will refuse the feeder voluntarily?) - therefore it will not work out amicably to agree.

    The constitution and key laws must be changed immediately, the only way there is a chance to avoid cutting and burning out liberals and all sorts of family clans that usurped all key posts in government agencies.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 11: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Volzhanin
      The constitution and key laws must be changed immediately
      And more?
    2. I doubt it
      I doubt it 5 November 2015 11: 09 New
      +2
      If it comes to this, the "responsible comrades" will simply leave. The prefects and heads of districts will get the maximum, and then only very fools.
  • korvin1976
    korvin1976 5 November 2015 10: 01 New
    -15
    Not respected 5 columns, arrived in your regiment. Rejoice.
    Previously, everything was simple, there were patriots (Kremlin workers, Putinists, etc.) and there was an enemy, and this enemy was you unprincipled 5 column (liberalists, white-bellied people, etc.).
    Previously, everything was simple and clear, there are ours, there are enemies, but ....... now a new category has appeared, I don’t even know what to call it: underpatriots, false patriots, shifters, selfishness. There can be a huge number of names, one essence.
    This type is tuned solely to get his own benefit, the rest is of little interest to him. More precisely interested, but somehow very strange.
    Have you attached Crimea? Hooray, hooray, well done, but ...... but what am I getting from this?
    Started to bomb the ISIS in Syria? Hooray, hooray, well done, but ..... but what will happen to me? I am not ready to pay for these actions.
    They began to reckon with Russia on the world stage? Hooray, it's high time, Russia is ahead, but .... since we entered the world stage I want a salary of miles and do not pay for anything.

    Correctly wrote Dear Cosmos:
    Yes, ... the war is going on, the battle of Stalingrad is thundering, and in the rear two patriots, sitting under a banner "everything for the front, everything for victory", are arguing; "the people are starving, that's a minus for Stalin."
    Yes, yes, dear, there is a war, and ALL of you understand this, ALL of you know this, but for some reason, when the question concerns selfish interests, you make big and surprised eyes and ask the question: What is such a war?
    So the name was found suitable for this category: SKIN
  • atamankko
    atamankko 5 November 2015 10: 27 New
    0
    You must not do this with public opinion.
  • bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 5 November 2015 10: 39 New
    -7
    It’s interesting - when Shoigu himself will hear at all that thanks to Serdyukov’s undertakings, thanks to Serdyukov’s activities as Minister of Defense, he, Shoigu, was able to do everything he did in such a short time, and without Serdyukov and his activities Russia would not have that army now , which is, everything that has no brains and yells "to plant and shoot" and Shoigu will write down as traitors in an instant? If so, then the dictatorship should be and it is justified, because in the herd only whip and drive. After all, Ivanov has already said that Serdyukov, as a citizen and an experienced specialist, has been appointed to this position. What else do you need? I so suspect a pick in my hands and chop granite into a quarry, since it does not reach that Caesar is Caesar's, well, or to each his own. Someone to manage the country and move personnel, and someone to clean the manure and not to climb with their wretched comments into great affairs.
    1. Revmirovich
      Revmirovich 5 November 2015 12: 59 New
      +5
      Well, if you like to clean the manure, and even when you are urged, then this is your personal matter. I doubt that you and Smerdyukov share
  • SALLAK
    SALLAK 5 November 2015 10: 39 New
    +1
    And the truth soon the boiling point of the people will be reached. And the big question is how and what to do to minimize losses. And do not violate the integrity of the country. In my opinion, there is only one such option, the creation of a force that can replace all the organs of power of the existing one ... Not a party, for it is doomed to play according to general rules. And most likely, an organization following the example of the order ... The path is not fast but the most painless ...
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 November 2015 10: 55 New
    0
    The Americans are now using the same tactics against the Russian Federation that the Anglo-French intelligence used against the Russian Empire in the First World War: the deterioration of the socio-economic situation through agents of influence in the highest echelons of power, a coup with the subsequent coming to the control of people who will have to completely control this destroy

    After that, reading the article no longer makes sense. Minus, of course. That the Germans could sponsor the revolutionary movement is easy, but it probably was. But to imagine that the British or the French destroy the Russian Empire with their own hands in order to remain alone with the Kaiser and the Austro-Hungarians - this is pure fantasy ...
    ... still read it. No, I won’t put a minus - the rest is not so far from the truth :)
    1. barbiturate
      barbiturate 5 November 2015 13: 58 New
      0
      Dear Andrei, many historians have already argued that Nikolai was more and more inclined to conclude peace with the Germans and was actively "probing" this matter, the British and the French were, of course, not delighted with this.
      The same British and French simply could not imagine how far the overthrow of the autocracy would go, they threw off the king, proclaimed war to a victorious end, but then everything went abruptly out of plan and how it ended is well known.
      Well, the fear of being alone against Germany is greatly exaggerated. Germany was already severely exhausted by the war by the end of 1916, the Entente was well aware of this, it is increasingly participating in the US war, and this is a HUGE weight on the scales for the allies. The French army was already the "first sword of the Entente". And in fact they were left alone against Germany and nothing terrible happened, Germany surrendered.
  • Belousov
    Belousov 5 November 2015 11: 11 New
    +7
    If Putin does not change ministers, then he is satisfied with the current situation in the economy. And we shouldn't blame everything on sanctions, before the sanctions only the oil price was higher, everything else was in the same ... fifth point. Foreign policy is certainly good, although it requires large expenses, but they are at least justified. but domestic politics is getting worse and worse, starting with an openly Russophobic ethnic policy (the feeling that Article 282 of the Criminal Code was created exclusively against Russians, whoever disagrees, let them try to find representatives of other nationalities convicted of it and do not sing how white and fluffy they are I remember a couple of "guests" from the Caucasus once attacked a deputy about the Liberal Democratic Party in Moscow, then they seemed to be caught, but already near Volgograd, on a stolen cruiser and with a weapon, their behavior in front of the cameras was very indicative, it was scary to imagine what they were doing on the streets of the city, but the cops did not touch them), ending with the blatant destruction of the social sphere (the lack of new kindergartens, schools, reduction of budgetary places in universities, but all sorts of private institutions with very dubious activities spawn), education, medicine (mother is a doctor, she is 60 years old , sits on 2 sites, because there is no one to work, no one goes to work for such a pittance).
    A separate topic of the conversation about corrupt officials is that they are cared for and cherished as endangered species listed in the Red Book. If you steal 3 thousand, you will receive 7 years in a strict regime colony, this is not a joke, this is a real case from Samara. But if you steal a couple of billions, then they will start shooting videos with you, recording songs, and your poetic and artistic talent will awaken sharply. I don’t need to show a finger in this character anymore, everyone already knows.
    To talk about "here, in Ukraine, too, they wanted to, but what they came to" - the difference is that the liberals, if something happens, will get in the neck first of all, after the 90s the people have a reliable vaccination against the liberal plague and Western worship.
  • provincial
    provincial 5 November 2015 11: 33 New
    +4
    Imagine that the GDP read your comments, pondered and decided to correct the situation, what should it do? Tell him the points.? And so, in my opinion, you are releasing steam on VO, and other media, sites, rallies, demonstrations, etc. calm down and continue to live quietly for the good of the Fatherland. Tactical routine work. If this does not help, then he speaks to everyone on TV, hits the withers of officials, tears the ears of oligarchs, people are happy .. And all domestic, financial hardships leave or temporarily recede. Success You are the Russian people.
    1. Revmirovich
      Revmirovich 5 November 2015 13: 03 New
      +5
      wrote above
      in short, do not impede, but rather contribute to the emergence of constructive opposition, which can provide an alternative solution to any issue. And it may be true, unlike their own boyars
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 5 November 2015 11: 42 New
    +1
    The liberal economy is not a goal, but a means to an end. It is important for me to understand why and for whom all this is done? Whose interests are protected in domestic politics?
    Quote: Uncle Joe
    Everything was said a long time ago - clearly and loudly.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 5 November 2015 12: 04 New
      +7
      Quote: vladimirvn
      It is important for me to understand why and for whom all this is done? Whose interests are protected in domestic politics?
      In whose interests are privatization, free movement of capital, a liberal market economy, the promotion of private initiative, integration into the world economy, a favorable investment climate?

      No need for a naive Chukchi youth to pretend smile

      The modern system is capitalist. This means that the world is divided into two opposite camps, the camp of a small handful of capitalists and the camp of the majority, the proletarians. The proletarians work day and night, but nonetheless they remain poor. The capitalists do not work, but nonetheless they are rich. And this is not because the proletarians, as if, lack intelligence, and the capitalists are brilliant, but because the capitalists take away the fruits of the labor of the proletarians, because the capitalists exploit the proletarians.
      I. Stalin T.1 s.331
  • korvin1976
    korvin1976 5 November 2015 11: 45 New
    -10
    Oil painting or whatever is called ........

    Earlier there were screams and cries that leaked Syria
    Then there were screams and cries that leaked the DNI and LC

    And now they have come to sobs and groans: Sentry !!!!! Russia is draining !!!!!

    Turn on your brains, drop all your personal Wishlist.
    Not everything that you want, others want. Remove glasses of an incomprehensible color from your eyes, your glasses have some sort of selective filter.
    Not everything is good in our country, not everything is as we want, but .....
    Whatever was good in our country, time should pass, although the king is GDP, but far from Harry Potter, as many want to see him, he does not have a magic wand.
    And when it doesn’t happen as you want, this is simply not possible. It is possible to bring it as close as possible, but this is not the task of the state as such, but of yourself. What did you personally do in order to live the way you want? What did you personally do to ensure that the state does, that you live as you want?
    Everyone can not do anything and at the same time demand something in return.
    Do at least something, for example, turn on your brains and conscience first, or did most of them sell it back in the 90s, like those vouchers?
    1. 31rus
      31rus 5 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +5
      Dear, I will answer for myself honestly, I served honestly, I work honestly, I pay taxes, I wasn’t involved, etc., I didn’t wear glasses and I’m not going to, as you write my "Wishlist", just a salary of 25000 to make ends meet, medical service (if it is paid, it is at a tariff and of high quality), education for grandchildren is affordable, housing and communal services are fair, pension (to know exactly when and how much I will receive), food prices corresponding to my salary, honest policemen and courts, normal officials, in short, everything like would be a trifle that simply "interferes with life"
      1. korvin1976
        korvin1976 5 November 2015 15: 22 New
        -6
        I studied the same way, served, I work. And for some reason I have such problems with Wishlist as you do not. The police are of little interest to me, I do not break the law, and when it happens recently, I don’t have any incidents with the police. There is a choice of honey service, if you want next to the extension, then the usual clinic is free, if you want, it’s better to be transferred to a paid, but on a free basis, and yes we do. I agree, education is not completely satisfied, but first of all we educate and teach our children ourselves, and not uncles and aunts from the Moscow Region. Housing and communal services? I have a three-ruble note, all together I pay about 4.5 thousand rubles, there are no counters, and I don’t see the point in them. And I think that this is a normal board. Products? Here, excuse me, I’m not distressed, I’m eating plenty and I don’t refuse anything special myself, in the amount of real Wishlist.
        And that’s the main thing you won’t believe, all this at the RFP of 35 thousand rubles is dirty, minus taxes and alimony. Wife childcare sitting gets 6800.
        I understand that I have a PO more than your Wishlist, but ..... who does not allow you to receive more? Do not give? Who does not give? Or maybe the question is what exactly is missing its capabilities?
        As a note, the cleaners work for me, and here you will not believe the average salary of the cleaners is about 20.000 rubles. Agree that for such specialization a normal salary? The truth is that you have to work for her, work and not be present at work
        I’m not saying that my life is beautiful and that there’s nothing else to strive for, there is much to strive for and what else to want, but it depends on me first of all, and not on the state. We work not for the state in the first place, but for ourselves and our well-being. You can’t stop working, your right, the article for parasitism was canceled a long time ago, but then you don’t have to cry that Wishlist doesn’t work.
        Remember the old days, at least the beginning of 80, how much were salaries and how much was housing and communal services, and after that you can say that housing and communal services is not fair.
        Draw an analogy with those times. That ruble is approximately equal to the current one as 1 to 125 (approximate rate), and after that already say what became expensive and what did not.
        1. skeptic31
          skeptic31 5 November 2015 19: 35 New
          +5
          I don’t know which city or country you live in. We live in Moscow. A year ago, we really paid 4,5 thousand rubles for housing and communal services, now we pay 7 thousand (this is without telephone and electricity). We have counters, otherwise we would pay all ten. The wife works, receives the most ordinary salary - 20 thousand rubles. I `m a pensioner. My pension is less than the national average, although I have been working “white” all my life and received quite a decent salary. My daughter is in college. An excellent pupil. He receives an “increased scholarship” - 1200 rubles. In fact, the most common incomes are currently, but for some reason, we have eternal problems with the expenditure balance. We would have to learn from you to live on 35 thousand.
          1. korvin1976
            korvin1976 6 November 2015 00: 59 New
            -1
            The city is listed in my profile, the country is the same as yours. I live nearby, just 220 km from you. So it's not about the country. The fact that your wife receives such a salary, to be honest, even insults me. Then I do not understand why people from us come to you, so to speak, to work. The prices and amounts that I have announced are quite real. Yes, we live without any special surpluses, but believe me what I want I have it all. I can only say one thing, in our life there are too many surpluses that eat up and so not numerous incomes, so to speak, the first. And secondly, recently people have a tendency to think that what is expensive means good, you can believe my experience and my word that this is not always the case. Of the same not expensive products, there are a lot of things of much better quality than their "expensive" counterparts, in extreme cases, far from inferior.
            Probably the only advice I can give: in order to live better, we must strive for this, and try to make your life change for the better. And if you sit and complain that everything around is bad, and at the same time do nothing, your life will remain the same if it does not get worse.
    2. 31rus
      31rus 5 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Dear, I will answer for myself honestly, I served honestly, I work honestly, I pay taxes, I wasn’t involved, etc., I didn’t wear glasses and I’m not going to, as you write my "Wishlist", just a salary of 25000 to make ends meet, medical service (if it is paid, it is at a tariff and of high quality), education for grandchildren is affordable, housing and communal services are fair, pension (to know exactly when and how much I will receive), food prices corresponding to my salary, honest policemen and courts, normal officials, in short, everything like would be a trifle that simply "interferes with life"
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 November 2015 14: 22 New
      +3
      all your personal Wishlist.
      My personal Wishlist: So that the state takes care of medicine about education, in the meantime they are destroyed. To preserve our traditions and culture, but for some reason, in recent years, a surge of Americanization. So that the rulers respected their immediate history.
  • ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 5 November 2015 11: 56 New
    +4
    Volzhanin (5) SU Today, 09:33 New
    One of the mighty problems is that the law is not the same for everyone. And what’s most interesting - everyone knows that. Naturally, such a situation will not be able to last long.
    It is necessary to change both the people and the system, but the people in the system will resist to the last (who will refuse the feeder voluntarily?) - therefore it will not work out amicably to agree.


    Take a look at the Constitution:
    Article 19. All are equal before the law and the court.
    [Constitution] [Chapter 2] [Article 19]
    1. All are equal before the law and the court.

    And now another article of the Constitution.
    Chapter 4. President of Russian Federation
    Article 80
    1. The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state.
    2. The President of the Russian Federation is guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, rights and freedoms of man and citizen.

    Can anyone explain what it means to be a guarantor and at the same time allow widespread violation of the same Constitution.
    Who, where, when and at what cost does these actions take?
    Why can you do things here, but not here? etc.?
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 5 November 2015 12: 04 New
    +7
    "The speeches of patriotic economists addressed to ... the first person are becoming more and more radical"
    The trouble is that the GDP, as knowledgeable people say, does not pay attention to even the harshest criticism. And, in addition, vindictive and vengeful. Here is a set of negative properties, unfortunately.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 5 November 2015 12: 12 New
    -2
    "Our Dear Partners" are distinguished by their well-known sense of humor, therefore, I'm going to wang the "revolution" for 2017. That would, so to speak, enrich "world history" with an excellent historical anecdote - "every hundred years in Russia" a revolutionary situation develops itself "... the laughter of the guests ..."
  • alicante11
    alicante11 5 November 2015 12: 32 New
    +3
    There will be no revolution. If we take the feral of the 17th and 91st years, then both times Russia was surrendered by the elite. Moreover, both times the elite believed that the West would welcome her into open arms. And both times the elite was thrown. It is clear that these were two different elites, and the current elite, although it is the heiress of the Komsomol cooperators, but, nevertheless, significantly differs in all respects and especially in the sense of impunity and grabbing hands. Both times the security forces allowed the transfer of power. In the 17th they not only failed to defend the tsar, to whom they had sworn allegiance, but after October they went to serve the Bolsheviks. In the 91st, both the KGB and the army remained indifferent to the collapse of the country. And if with regard to the army it can still be assumed that it was overboard, then the KGB leadership was clearly aware of the situation and controlled the development of events. And at the decisive moment of 95-96, they said STOP to unilateral concessions that could lead to a complete loss of power and wealth for both the elite and the security forces. Thus, both the elite and the security forces know that no one is waiting for them in the West. They understand that they will be thrown and therefore no one will surrender Russia this time. That is why the GDP was brought to power. He must defend the oligarchic gains. That is what he has been doing for 18 years, who has been at the top of power. And if the elite and the security forces are in one bundle, then no opposition, even if it brings hundreds of thousands of protesters to the square of the capital and provincial cities, will not be able to move the government. We saw what the unity of the elite and the security forces gives in Tiananmen, in Minsk, and, of course, in the suppression of the "occupy Wall Street" movement in an exceptional country.
    The only option to advance the power of the oligarchs would be a military defeat, which could split the union of the elite and the security forces, and then there are options for the 17 or 91 years.
    1. Revmirovich
      Revmirovich 5 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +1
      Again mountains of corpses? Do you offer this? Or terror in relation to those who hold power.
      The history of anarchists and Socialist-Revolutionary militants as early as the beginning of the 20th century showed that terror is a dead end.
      What kind of opposition do you mean? Lesneknavalny and casparov garikov? So this is not the opposition, but rabble.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 5 November 2015 14: 21 New
        -2
        Again mountains of corpses? Do you offer this? Or terror in relation to those who hold power.


        I do not offer anything. There is no reception against scrap.

        The only option to move the oligarchs is the defeat of Russia - military, as in 1917 or economic, as in 91. But is the price that you have to pay too high? Plus now there is no party of Bolsheviks who were able to replace the legally incompetent post-February elite.
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 5 November 2015 19: 48 New
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          The only option to move the oligarchs is the defeat of Russia - military

          Well, or nature will take its toll and then a new round of development of society will begin, well, remember 1982?
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 5 November 2015 19: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: alicante11
      There will be no revolution

      Well, they also thought that communism would be built by 1980, that by 2000 every young family would have their own apartment, that oil would not cost $ 60, because the economy would collapse, based on the historical development of society, I dare to assume that it would!
  • ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 5 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +3
    The only option to move the power of the oligarchs will be a military defeat, which could split the union of the elite and security forces


    DB in Syria, when it is not clear which Victory motivated troops - premise?

    We read the sage Sun Tzu: “If the war is fought, and the victory drags on, the weapon becomes dull and the tips break off; if the fortress is besieged for a long time, the forces are undermined; if the army is left in the field for a long time, the state does not have enough funds. Therefore, in the war they heard about success with its speed, even with the artlessness of its conduct, and have not yet seen success with its duration, even with the mastery of its conduct. War loves victory and does not like duration. ”
  • vladek64
    vladek64 5 November 2015 13: 52 New
    0
    There is no reason to believe that a full-scale civil war similar to 1917-23 is possible in Russia. if only because such a war requires two full-fledged sides, which are supported by the masses.


    Can you imagine a war between different regions-patrimonies of different oligarchs?
    In Ukraine, this is almost a reality. What prevents to realize this in Russia?
  • The Chat
    The Chat 5 November 2015 13: 57 New
    0
    Quote: SALLAK
    The path is not fast but the most painless ...


    Oprichnina - this is a tried and true and quick and painless way to remove the thieves from the top. Unless of course the leader wants to remove the thieves from power ...
    1. ma_shlomha
      ma_shlomha 5 November 2015 14: 27 New
      +1
      Unless of course the leader wants to remove the thieves from power ...
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 November 2015 14: 27 New
    +2
    Fans of Putin dedicated to the opening of the Yeltsin Center
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 6 November 2015 00: 49 New
      +3
      From their site: Presidential Center B.N. Yeltsin was created in accordance with federal law No. 2008 “On the centers of the historical heritage of the presidents of the Russian Federation that ceased to exercise their powers”, adopted in 68.
      Legacy ..... oh god. ((((
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 5 November 2015 15: 08 New
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    I would like not to receive a minus, but to hear arguments. And if we assume the incredible, "our capitalists are the same part of our society." And even more incredible, "there are also patriots of Russia among them." And they live in Russia and pay taxes and do charity work. And they are thieves in any class, either among the lumpen or among the officials and capitalists. You say the scope is different, I will answer, the essence is the same.
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 5 November 2015 15: 23 New
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    A very controversial discussion, but I would refrain from unfounded accusations against Putin. What about the presumption of innocence? How would you react to the fact that you were unreasonably slandered? I think that is negative.
    PS. In no way do I consider myself a "liberast". On the contrary, as I was a non-party communist / in the CPSU for various reasons they did not accept /, I remained so.
  • bumbarash
    bumbarash 5 November 2015 15: 48 New
    +1
    Unfortunately, this is a system. Whether Putin wants or not, he has to work in this system.
    It looks like through the looking glass .. but there is, what is.
    If you want to steal with impunity, you need to become part of the system, then you are in chocolate.
    If not, then your fate is something like this
    http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/11/02/kurakin/
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 5 November 2015 20: 13 New
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    I regularly monitor the speeches of patriotic independent economists and notice the pattern: every month their statements about the country's leadership and the first person personally become more and more radical. Similarly with independent political analysts. Moreover, these people cannot yet be called radical patriots in the full sense of this concept, but they are literally drifting in that direction. What will happen next year, to the elections-2016, it is difficult to even imagine.


    And I think, Dear Igor, you yourself answered your question.

    If you brake right now, you can stop in a millimeter before the precipice. If a little later - no longer.


    Something like that, colleague. hi

    PS And I liked the article, extremely realistic and objective. hi good
  • gammipapa
    gammipapa 5 November 2015 20: 27 New
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    Here we are somehow with the men in the courtyard sitting the same trend, but here he is, and here they are, but we would ...

    At the end of the conversation, one smarter got up and summed up. Well, I would be promoted to the top then ... I would have divided everything, I would have divided it so that you would all die of hunger. And I would buy a private plane for bribes and spit on top of you all on the head. They smoked and parted ...
    1. Glot
      Glot 5 November 2015 20: 58 New
      -1
      Here we are somehow with the men in the courtyard sitting the same trend, but here he is, and here they are, but we would ...

      At the end of the conversation, one smarter got up and summed up. Well, I would be promoted to the top then ... I would have divided everything, I would have divided it so that you would all die of hunger. And I would buy a private plane for bribes and spit on top of you all on the head. They smoked and parted ...


      Exactly. And then they scream, they want revolutions but ... how they get to the helm. Yeah ... laughing
  • LvKiller
    LvKiller 5 November 2015 20: 35 New
    -2
    Quote: Uncle Joe
    So where is the place of such power - on the bunk, or at the helm of the country?


    How can I put it more clearly ... You see, dear, that of the two evils they choose the lesser, if forgive me, the reality is crooked. Ukrainians will confirm this to you, that sometimes such a government is somewhat better than what might come next. But someone else’s example didn’t make you think, right?
  • Buffalo
    Buffalo 5 November 2015 20: 43 New
    +5
    With the appointment of thieves and traitor Serdyukov, Putin has fallen significantly in my eyes. This is the restoration of liberalism in the Kremlin. Serdyukov is a criminal, but is Medvedev better? Remember the beginning of the war in South Ossetia, Medvedev did nothing for several days as president, and at that time our soldiers were killed in Tskhinval.
    By the way, this is far from the first unseemly step on his part.
    Before that, there were Rokhlin, Rokhlin, Kvachkov, Khabarov, Budanov, Arakcheev, Smirnov, Ulman ... There were Strelkov and Brain, the first was removed, the second was destroyed by our special forces (Wagner).
    They say that Putin does not surrender his own, we see this with the example of Serdyukov.
    This means that he does not consider those whom I have listed above and who have served Russia.
    And it is not surprising that when sending our soldiers to Syria, some refused. - Remember about Budanov!
  • scorpiosys
    scorpiosys 6 November 2015 00: 05 New
    +6
    The article very accurately corresponds to my moral state of mind.
    To say "high" words about the people and to feed a gang of oligarchs from a golden spoon is soulless.
  • unknown
    unknown 7 November 2015 21: 38 New
    +1
    A simple misunderstanding of the situation.
    The point is not even that Putin does not give up "his" people.
    Serdyukov is not just his own, he is an INSIDE, a family member.
    Of course, there is an example of Singapore, when the goals of the state were put above ANY kindred relationship.
    But, this is an EXCEPTION.

    In addition, do not forget that Russia is under external control.
    According to the "Yeltsin" constitution, we have no national ideology and a central bank not controlled by Russia. But there is a liberal ideology and a liberal economic model, this theory, beautiful on paper, but not working in reality. The complete analogy of the theory of relativity is stupid and harmful for understanding reality.
    According to forecasts, the situation will radically begin to change in 2025. New redistribution of property in 2029.
  • _dimasik_
    _dimasik_ 8 November 2015 03: 01 New
    +1
    It is very pleasing that there were still adequate people in VO.
    There are certainly inadequacies such as space and others, but the picture is more or less positive.
    How can you not understand that there is no alternative to the choice precisely because of Putin’s dominance and his unwillingness to give anyone a chance to gain at least some authority from the people ??? All choke on the press, go to jail, or just get out.
    In those 16 years, many new political figures could have appeared in power, and the people themselves would have chosen which of them deserves greater trust. And it will turn out as always in Russia, he will sit on the armchair until he dies, and again the division of power will begin. Most rulers, for fear of losing power or a rating, put pressure on their competitors, and eventually doom the country to another bloody redistribution after their death. There are a lot of examples in our history.
    Until recently, all the "patriots" shouted that Serdyukov should be imprisoned, or even shot, and now, seeing that the authorities simply do not care about their opinion, they started again this song "There is no one to change" and "What do you want a revolution?" Aren't you tired of being so blind yourself ???
    And about work and you will succeed, do you not see all the chaos of the authorities, cops, FSB and others ??? People are being squeezed out of business, pressured by checks, children will soon be taken away (read about "juvenile justice"), a children's fund controlled by a Western non-profit organization (New Eurasia Fund) is being created, medicine in general is in complete ass, education has already been destroyed. In reality, when you write that everything is good in our country, you get the impression that you live in another country.