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If this is not a preparation for war, then what?

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If this is not a preparation for war, then what?The main thing that has recently been of interest to the modern Russian is the events in Syria. Ukraine has faded into the background, and very few are interested in the Baltic States. Meanwhile, in this region, actually under the very side of Russia, a real powder cellar is rapidly being built - the military contingents of the United States and other NATO countries are pulling in here.


Abrams, Bradley and others ...

On October 24, onlookers who found themselves at the berths of the port of Liepaja witnessed the arrival of a large consignment of ammunition, ammunition and armored vehicles for the American troops. Among the delivered equipment were massive Tanks M1A2 Abrams and Bradley armored vehicles. The second batch of these machines arrived a few days later, on October 27th. Ferries with equipment traveled from the German port of Travemunde. In Liepaja, tanks and “Béteers” were preparing for reloading in the territory of the Terrabalt terminal protected by the Latvian military police. Then, military equipment went to different destinations - both on highways and by rail. At first, the convoy with Abrams tanks headed towards the Lithuanian border. By the way, a new shift of the US military, consisting of 230 soldiers, arrived in Lithuania a week earlier. Together with them, servicemen from the so-called “Direct Support Company”, who are involved in the logistics of the American army, came to the country. Tanks and armored vehicles were deployed at the Rukle training ground. Altogether, a total of about seventy vehicles were deployed in Lithuania, including five tanks and 13 infantry fighting vehicles.

In Estonia, the American armored vehicles went to the military town of Tapa. Earlier, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of this country reported that the Yankees would deliver here over forty units of heavy equipment, including four Abrams tanks, ten Bradley, three self-propelled Paladin self-propelled guns and two sapper tanks. All of them are intended for military personnel from the US 3 Infantry Division, who replaced, in rotation, those soldiers who had been in Estonia before. By the way, as the deputy head of the Estonian Hotel and Restaurant Union Felix Mägus informed, the NATO military in the first eight months of the year made 10% of the total number of tourists visiting the city (up to 350 people).

Hospitality workers view this situation as negative, because the arrival of such a large number of military forces tourists to get nervous and leave Estonia.
In Latvia tanks were driven to the Adazi base by means of the Riga – Liepaja highway and the Riga 27 and 28 highway in October. They were driving in the middle of the road, in a continuous lane, pressing everyone they met to the sides of the road. A day later, on October 29, American armored personnel carriers and several more tanks left the Garkalne railway station. Two 69-ton tracked armored vehicles were attached to one 27,6-ton platform with stencilled logos of the Latvian Railway company and designations in Russian. Almost all the equipment was sand color, which was used by the US Army during operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The loading was observed by Lieutenant Jackson and his deputy, a smiling woman with stripes of the 1 Brigade of the US Army. It turned out that only one Abrams M1A2 tank weighing at least 62 tons is placed on one platform. They also stood on the platforms and lightly armored green-colored Humvee SUVs (as in the Bundeswehr), engineering vehicles, and trucks. Technique before transportation was partially dismantled, without dynamic protection and arsenal. According to the military, retrofitting, as well as repainting, takes a few hours.

The head of the press department of the Latvian Ministry of Defense, Kaspars Galkin, reassured journalists who watched the loading and unloading: “This is not a war, but an exercise. On the basis of our army in Lielvarde, for example, were helicopters UH-60 Black Hawk, that is, the rotation is constantly. Military equipment from these two ships in Liepaja will be present in Latvia for at least three months - and it was delivered here at the request of the United States. Eight Abrams tanks and nine Bradley armored vehicles (and one hundred and fifty US troops. - VS) are now based at our Adazhi base. And in total in the Baltic countries there are now seventy units of heavy military equipment. In terms of the exercises, coordination with other combat arms during ground maneuvers, air cover, and naval operations is indicated. And I do not comment on other people's phobias. ”

However, authoritative Latvian political expert Sergey Vasilyev believes that there is a reason for alarm - and considerable: “One can joke as much as possible on the weakness of Baltic politicians, but US tanks and armored personnel carriers are quite real, and their number constantly increases and steadily . If there is no preparation for war, call it something different ... ".

To suppress local Russians?


It did not go unnoticed that Latvian Defense Minister Raymond Bergmanis signed a contract with the Swedish company SAAB Dynamics AB on the acquisition of short-range RBS-70 anti-aircraft missiles. “We are now actively creating an air defense architecture that includes a warning system, rapid response and radar. The purchase of missiles is a step that allows us to strengthen our combat capability, ”said the Minister. The signed agreement provides that Latvia will receive a part of the missiles this year, and the rest - next, it will cost the country 3,67 million euros. By the way, the RBS-70 is a portable anti-aircraft missile system designed to hit helicopters and airplanes at low altitude.

Здесь же, в Латвии, в конце октября прошли учения американского спецназа. В Адажи в присутствии посла США в Латвии Нэнси Петит была проведена операция по задержанию неких условных «повстанцев». Поддержку спецназовцам в этом оказали вертолеты Black Hawk. После того, как латвийские военные опубликовали фотографии американских участников манёвров, специалисты обратили внимание на странность – в экипировке бойцов не угадывался именно войсковой спецназ. Герои этой фотосессии – бойцы в лётных комбинезонах и с укороченными версиями автоматов Heckler & Koch Gewehr 36, которые в США используют только некоторые подразделения S.W.A.T. (полицейский спецназ).

Latvian opposition politician Vladimir Linderman points out: “The American special forces in Latvia at the Adazi range are working out an exercise to detain the rebels.” The people who are going through argue that it is not an army, but a police special forces, i.e. sharpened precisely on the suppression of internal unrest. The exercise was attended by the US Ambassador to Latvia Nancy Petit. So everything is grown-up. The same competent people assert that the US police special forces are in Latvia and Estonia on a permanent basis. This is not the army, but the police, and, if formally approached, international agreements on the deployment of troops are not violated, as it were. Please note that the special forces are deployed in Latvia and Estonia, they are not in Lithuania. ”

Next, the politician gives his assessment of what is happening. “There is only one logical explanation: in Lithuania, unlike in Latvia and Estonia, the share of the Russian population is insignificant. That is, Russian residents of the Baltic states are perceived as a threat. ”
The assumption is quite likely - especially considering that something similar is happening in Estonia. There in the northeastern region of Ida-Virumaa, a joint exercise of the local prefecture of the police and frontier guard and volunteer militia “Kiteselite” took place recently. The siloviki "suppressed rebellion": during the exercises, the defense of state and municipal facilities of the city was practiced during conditional riots. Note that in Ida-Virumaa, about 80% of the population are Russian-speaking residents. In Narva (the largest city in the region), more than 90% of the population is Russian. Experts interpreted the fact of the exercise as evidence that Tallinn really seriously fears the uprising of local Russians humiliated by unequal status, mass statelessness and persecution of their native language.

Note that the Minister of Internal Affairs of Estonia Hanno Pevkur spoke about the need for the participation of US special forces in guarding the border of the republic with Russia. He stated this during a meeting in Washington with US Homeland Security Minister Jeh Johnson. “In connection with the creation of a special border guard unit this year, one of the specific possibilities of such assistance is to invite US border special forces to train our unit. We are also waiting for the participation of the FBI special forces in large European exercises in Estonia next year, ”said Pevkur. In addition, he proposed his American counterpart to create a bilateral center for cybersecurity.

"Warthogs" on the warpath


Tallinn generally seeks to strengthen cooperation with other NATO countries. So, it became known that the military contingents of Germany and Great Britain would arrive in Estonia in 2016 year - the Commander of the Baltic Republic Defense Forces, Lieutenant General Riho Terras, informed about this. “We expect the arrival of German soldiers in June next year. We are negotiating with the British about the timing of the deployment of troops in our country, ”said Terras. According to the general, Denmark also expressed interest in a larger-scale participation in maneuvers held in Estonia.

As Terras recalled, more than 500 military personnel of NATO allies (mainly the US Army) with periodic rotation of the contingent are constantly in Estonia. In addition, fighters of the Alliance members deployed at Ämari Air Base protect the airspace of the Baltic countries. At present, the German Air Force contingent with four Eurofighter Typhoon fighters is on duty. This is the fifth shift of the so-called air police. The 12 A-10 American attack aircraft are also located in маmari, which will remain in Estonia at least until the beginning of the 2016 year. These attack aircraft are part of the 74 Squadron of the 23 Air Group of the United States Air Force stationed at Moody Air Force Base (Moody) in Georgia.

Note that in the US Armed Forces, A-10, resembling its angular appearance of a famous inhabitant of African savannahs, received the nickname "warthog." A-10 are distinguished by high strength and special protection of the pilot against fire from the ground. In fact, this is a kind of cocoon of titanium, called the "bath". Russians are most concerned about the fact that the "warthog" is capable of carrying nuclear and low-power nuclear ammunition. Such a plane can fly from Estonia to the border with the Russian Federation in just a few minutes. Nearby are St. Petersburg, a port in Ust-Luga, Novgorod, Pskov, other major cities, important infrastructure. It is clear that in the event of an attack, the Russian Armed Forces will not be idle.

But if on board the NATO attack aircraft weaponThis changes the whole picture. Even a single such type of ammunition is capable of causing truly terrible consequences. And what if the US moves to Estonia after the attack aircraft and nuclear charges?
Such a step, with all his madness, is still not quite impossible now. The German TV channel ZDF briefed the other day about the “beginning of the installation of American nuclear weapons of the new model at the military base of the Bundeswehr Fliehorst Büchel in Rhineland-Palatinate”. ZDF journalists seem to have documents confirming plans to deploy a new US tactical nuclear weapon in Europe. “In the event of war, the German pilots operating the Tornado type of aircraft will have to withdraw these bombs to combat positions within the framework of the so-called NATO nuclear participation strategy,” the television station said.

And what about the locals? Many of them met Americans without enthusiasm - although their discontent has a special touch.

“Today I was uncomfortable and ashamed because of the behavior of my compatriots. I watched at the Tapa training ground, along with the commander-in-chief of the US Air Force squadron who was at the exercises in Émari, as A-10 strike aircraft struck targets in collaboration with firearm from Estonia, the USA, Germany and a number of other countries. Beautiful weather and good teachings. I asked a colleague how three hundred-plus squadron servicemen feel in Estonia. He replied: “Just fine, very beautiful country, the Estonians are proud of their state, the houses are in order, the streets are clean. Only sometimes it is difficult for me to explain to my soldiers why they are mistreated in the city, although we came here to help and support your country. " I asked for clarification and found out that those allies whose skin color is different from the local ones have to suffer verbal and sometimes physical attacks in Tallinn, ”Jaak Tarien, commander-in-chief of the Estonian Air Force, told reporters.

It seems that this is not only a matter of xenophobia and racism of Estonians. Although many Balts were thoroughly powdered with propaganda, exposing the arriving Americans as “our defenders against possible Russian aggression,” not all residents of this region have forgotten how to analyze what is happening on their own. And they, of course, meet the newly-minted “defenders” with no particular enthusiasm, who can plunge their land into the abyss of military disasters ...
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  1. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 5 November 2015 15: 01 New
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    mind and fantasies only on provocation ... we are not Russia in the beginning of the 90 years ... they are afraid to make a military mess, reluctance to get their heads with a nuclear club ...
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 5 November 2015 15: 03 New
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      Protect against Russian aggression and increase the birth rate in the Baltic states. They, poor ones, degenerate and flee from their European country.
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 5 November 2015 15: 12 New
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        Such actions can be regarded unambiguously - as a threat to national security (territorial integrity). And we must talk about this publicly and openly. Regardless of the fact that Russia is a nuclear power. Here, first of all, it is necessary to assess the degree of readiness of the adjacent side, the potential, and the risks that this potential carries.

        As one of the preventive measures (as it was in the USSR), deployment of some component of the strategic nuclear forces, which will have as its purpose the place (deployment) of military equipment of a potential enemy, can serve. Plus, it is necessary to officially inform the adjacent side, including through the media (in order to convey this information to the population of this country).

        PS
        By the fact that Western politicians often tell us:"Ой да чё вы переживаете, вы же ядерная держава, п.э. ес что вы всегда сможете ответить..."
        This is not necessary. This may not bother us as much as the Russian military base in Mexico may not bother the United States.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 November 2015 16: 48 New
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          Quote: _Vladislav_
          Such actions can be regarded unambiguously - as a threat to national security (territorial integrity).

          The concentration of the military along the border of a neighboring state in the world is regarded as preparation for a warrior. So it was by the rules.
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 5 November 2015 18: 26 New
          +6
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          As one of the preventive measures (as it was in the USSR), deployment of some component of the strategic nuclear forces, which will have as its purpose the location (build-up) of military equipment of a potential enemy, can serve



          Это все уже было при СССР ... Были "Пионеры", относящиеся к РСД РВСН... и располагались они в Прибалтике, Смоленской, Псковской, Ленинградской областях... И все было тихо...

          That's when, at the behest of Hunchback, and then always drunk, they were cut - here rot and rolled ...

          Now, in principle, the Pioneers' missions could be carried out by Iskanders with improved performance characteristics (I mean the flight range and the use of YAG) ... And also, no agreement will prevent the placement of Caliber on water platforms in large lakes ... On the water ??? So, it does not fall under the Non-Proliferation and Application Treaty ...
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 5 November 2015 19: 30 New
            +8
            Quote: veksha50
            Это все уже было при СССР ... Были "Пионеры", относящиеся к РСД РВСН..

            A good PGRC was, but unfortunately, a victim of the rash (criminal) actions of the then leadership of our country. OKU incidentally also destroyed.
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 5 November 2015 21: 35 New
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              Quote: _Vladislav_
              OKU incidentally also destroyed.



              Yes, they destroyed it all under one comb ...
          2. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 6 November 2015 01: 25 New
            +1
            А кто мешает запустить "Тополя" из-за Урала? Для России с её протяжённостью ограничение по дальности ракет влияет только на оперативность доставки, что в случае ядерного оружия не является критичным.
        3. Orionvit
          Orionvit 5 November 2015 22: 24 New
          +7
          Cuba must be re-mastered quickly. They say the progress has gone, but something is very slow.
          1. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2015 22: 38 New
            -13
            Quote: Orionvit
            Cuba must be re-mastered quickly. They say the progress has gone, but something is very slow.

            Do you have a Ukrainian flag? You would have to deal with the Donbass, but you are dreaming of Cuba. laughing
            1. kush62
              kush62 5 November 2015 22: 50 New
              +4
              atalef (8) Today, 22:38 ↑ New
              Quote: Orionvit
              Cuba must be re-mastered quickly. They say the progress has gone, but something is very slow.

              Do you have a Ukrainian flag? You would have to deal with the Donbass, but you dream about Cuba

              Evil must be eradicated in the bud.
        4. Xanna
          Xanna 6 November 2015 09: 57 New
          0
          Everything is simple - Iskander or Yars in Kaliningrad! And the problem of containing idiots with nuclear weapons has been resolved.
      2. Papakiko
        Papakiko 5 November 2015 15: 25 New
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        Quote: oleg-gr
        Protect against Russian aggression and increase the birth rate in the Baltic states. They, poor ones, degenerate and flee from their European country.

        Zelo good, cast a spell! good
        And how do you like the Bundeswehr armored personnel carriers on the streets of Israeli cities?
        The photo is just a topic for crosses on the sides and of course trolling of a kalakosta.
        More Anglitsky airlines will not fly for some time to Sharm El Sheikh: the ears are hidden from the return compliment for 31.10.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 5 November 2015 15: 37 New
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          The Germans learn to fight the Jews ..... Adik spins in a coffin like a grilled chicken.
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 5 November 2015 15: 43 New
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            Quote: Maksus
            The Germans learn to fight the Jews ..... Adik spins in a coffin like a grilled chicken.

            Well, it's like in that joke:

            - Stirlitz, I had a terrible dream: it’s like 2015, the Chancellor in Germany is a woman in a robe’s jacket, instead of torchlight processions - game parades, we pay money to Jews and carry out Negro commands from America, Russia is at war with Ukraine, and Germany, imagine, Stirlitz - GERMANY - persuades Russia not to fight!
          2. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2015 22: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Maksus
            The Germans learn to fight the Jews ..... Adik spins in a coffin like a grilled chicken.

            The army of Germany and Israel worked out the battle in urban conditions at the Tseelim training ground.

            “Haaretz” notes that Berlin sought to hide the fact of the participation of its soldiers in the exercises, so the press was not allowed to photograph them. For maneuvers, the Bundeswehr sent one hundred soldiers and five units of heavy armored vehicles to the Jewish state.

            Bundeswehr soldiers will undergo training in Israel for operations abroad. According to the German Financial Times (FTD), German pilots are currently participating in a six-week training course for Afghanistan, in which the Israeli Air Force and Israeli Aviation Industry will train them in handling the Heron 1 unmanned aircraft.
        2. rfv0304
          rfv0304 5 November 2015 15: 50 New
          +9
          Given the size of the armored personnel carrier, I think that it is very comfortable. This is on the one hand. And on the other: it's just a wonderful target. Missing is simply impossible.
          Исходя из этого данная "машина" нужна только для того что бы ездить на рыбалку по Московским пробкам. Но горючки жрёт слишком много.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 13 New
            +2
            rfv0304

            BTR is a support vehicle. Infantry survivability support vehicle.

            If the infantry squad loses its armored personnel carrier under fire or in a mine, then who the hell will be their hell.

            Only from this point of view can this machine be considered.
            1. marlin1203
              marlin1203 6 November 2015 00: 59 New
              0
              "Ихние задницы" будут передвигаться пешим строем. И вообще 100% исправной техники в мотострелковых частях в мирное-то время не бывает, не говоря уже о военном...
          2. your1970
            your1970 5 November 2015 19: 42 New
            +1
            I was smiled more - the fact that everything fits on the 1 platform (60 ton) one tank - they wanted to place three or four pieces in order to pay less for transportation repeat repeat ..
        3. miru mir
          miru mir 5 November 2015 18: 25 New
          0
          It seems like joint exercises were held hi
      3. ty60
        ty60 5 November 2015 16: 21 New
        +5
        Estonia will begin to grow with Afro-Estonians! Indeed, the Afropribalt will become a support in future generations!
      4. AlexTires
        AlexTires 5 November 2015 16: 23 New
        +3
        Migrants will do just fine with this ... laughing
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    3. Vend
      Vend 5 November 2015 15: 16 New
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      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      mind and fantasies only on provocation ... we are not Russia in the beginning of the 90 years ... they are afraid to make a military mess, reluctance to get their heads with a nuclear club ...

      This is all for the suppression of the Baltic states. In the event of a conflict, the Baltic Russians have anyone to look for protection. But the Balts will be assimilated. It will be seen will create a Baltic caliphate. It is necessary to rejoice in the occupation of one’s own country by a foreign power. Looks completely brainless.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 5 November 2015 15: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: Wend
        It is necessary to rejoice in the occupation of one’s own country by a foreign power. Looks completely brainless.

        А ведь вдург, через некоторое время начнут десятками тысяч сыпаться судебные предъявы от десятков тысяч отнеизнасилованных чухонок на бездействия "защтьников" от НАТО.
        1. ty60
          ty60 5 November 2015 16: 28 New
          0
          Very smiled! hi
    4. sergeant1986
      sergeant1986 5 November 2015 22: 54 New
      0
      A few dozen pieces of potential scrap are not a problem. But the nuclear charges on the attack aircraft are already annoying and will force us to come up with a killer adequate response.
  2. ASG7
    ASG7 5 November 2015 15: 01 New
    +6
    When they want to fight, they go to fight, and when they want to scare, they conduct exercises.
    1. Watchdog
      Watchdog 5 November 2015 15: 25 New
      +3
      If the five of you then of course, they go to war. And if you have a whopper, then before you go to war, you need to check that everything works as it should. The army of a large state is a spaceship, not a cardboard glider - while you carry out all the starting tests ...
  3. volot-voin
    volot-voin 5 November 2015 15: 01 New
    +4
    If that Baltic begins to gap the lunar landscape first. Reap only the Russian population. It was high time the small but proud ones had to organize northern Transnistria.
  4. Watchdog
    Watchdog 5 November 2015 15: 02 New
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    На самом деле не смотря на уверения "войны не будет", "война не возможна" в это верится все меньше и меньше. Ну вот посмотрите-ка - информационный фон просто перенасыщен словом "война" материалами о военных, оружии, патриотическими призывами, во всю идет информационная война в форме пропаганды (причем как со стороны России, так и со стороны ее "вероятного противника" - США). Что это как не системная подготовка массового сознания к войне? Если вы проанализируете период предшествующий I и II мировым войнам - вы увидите такое же насыщение информационного поля военной тематикой и повышением толерантности общества к ней. Далее - масштабные маневры всех видов и родов войск, тестовые проверки боеготовности, увеличение бюджета вооруженных сил, создание нового типа информационного обеспечения и руководства вооруженными силами, апробирование на ИГИЛ новых типов боеприпасов, увеличение орбитальной группировки военных спутников, ускоренное строительство боевых кораблей, перевооружение СЯС и воссоздание машины судного дня, наконец создание НЦУО, - с другой стороны создание ИГИЛ, приближение инфраструктуры НАТО к границам РФ, оранжевые революции в на постсоветском пространстве, санкционная война - это что все для того чтобы апельсинами друг с другом торговать???
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 5 November 2015 15: 13 New
      +9
      Quote: Watchdog
      На самом деле не смотря на уверения "войны не будет", "война не возможна" в это верится все меньше и меньше. Ну вот посмотрите-ка -

      Have you read the article?
      eight Abrams tanks and nine Bradley armored vehicles

      And 150 infantry man. Reinforced company. Such troops are relocating clearly realizing that no one intends to fight. This is the best proof that in the West they perfectly understand the peaceful essence of Russia and the complete security of the Baltic states.
      1. Watchdog
        Watchdog 5 November 2015 15: 20 New
        +8
        And they are getting ready to give each other marmalade bears. fool
        So, after talking about perestroika and glasnost, some slept in the USSR. But there were so many strategists. And smart heads - uuuh! One Gaidar was worth it. The result was such that it would be better if they fought.
        1. i80186
          i80186 5 November 2015 15: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: Watchdog
          And they are getting ready to give each other marmalade bears.

          No, they’re going to put on five tanks one and a half hundred infantry and capture Peter, yeah. smile
          1. Watchdog
            Watchdog 5 November 2015 15: 28 New
            0
            Why Peter? There are also smaller patches of land and away from big Russia request
            1. i80186
              i80186 5 November 2015 15: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: Watchdog
              Why Peter? There are also smaller patches of land and away from big Russia

              Well yes. Exactly for sure. laughing
              At the beginning of 2010, there were 811 tanks, 1239 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers of various types, 345 artillery and missile systems in the ground forces of the Kaliningrad Defensive Region. In the coming years, it is planned to build up the military potential of KOR. By 2012, the number of marines in the Kaliningrad region was planned to be increased to 4 thousand military personnel. The stockpiles of weapons and military equipment stored in military warehouses in the Kaliningrad Region (which remained from the disbanded units and formations) will be enough to equip 3 motorized rifle divisions in case of general mobilization [(C)
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 22 New
                +1
                i80186

                You see, you yourself answered your own question.

                Cut off from the supply.
              2. Sorokin
                Sorokin 5 November 2015 21: 05 New
                0
                Duck and cropped how much? 7 to mine.
          2. Darkoff
            Darkoff 5 November 2015 15: 50 New
            +2
            To capture Peter is not enough. And for the provocation - completely.
          3. gladcu2
            gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 21 New
            +1
            i80186

            Do not be naive. Bleeding Europe from the Russian Federation is enough. Do you have enough examples of Ukraine?

            If someone did something, then someone needs it.
        2. Alex_59
          Alex_59 5 November 2015 15: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Watchdog
          And they are getting ready to give each other marmalade bears.

          I don’t say that this army on the borders of Russia is a step towards peace and that it’s good. They work out the transfer, if they press, the transfer will begin on a larger scale. But while this is obviously more designed for impressionable Balts.
      2. Sorokin
        Sorokin 5 November 2015 20: 59 New
        0
        At one time, the gentlemen from Riga said .... I’m a pepper from Perm, you with your aunt who lived here for 45 years as an occupant have nothing. So we have it there. And very much we have. Fear the guys.
    2. i80186
      i80186 5 November 2015 15: 14 New
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      Вот набираешь в Яндексе - "Латвия", и сразу видно - война неизбежна. winked
      1. skifd
        skifd 5 November 2015 20: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: i80186
        Вот набираешь в Яндексе - "Латвия", и сразу видно - война неизбежна.


        Checked !!!!! From the result (thought-banter) I almost fell ... wassat
    3. Manager
      Manager 5 November 2015 15: 25 New
      +2
      Before the first and second world, there was no nuclear weapon. It nullified everything you write.
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 5 November 2015 17: 19 New
        +1
        I can recall that in 1939, in a much less threatening situation, the Finns provoked a war with the USSR, also waiting for help from the West.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 31 New
          0
          dvg79

          You very accurately brought an analogy to the Finnish war. Only there the problem was that the Finnish border came very close to the industrial areas of Leningrad and the region. The USSR offered the finals an exchange of territories in order to push the Finnish border to strategic depth. They refused. Well, then the USSR began this war under some pretext.

          The same situation with Kaliningrad. The grouping of the Russian Federation is powerful, but controlled through the supply line through the territory of the Baltic countries. The sea is also not much to haul.
          1. dvg79
            dvg79 6 November 2015 05: 37 New
            0
            But at what distance from St. Petersburg is the Estonian border? It’s possible to add it. But in the provocations, the Amers have no equal.
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 25 New
        +1
        Manager

        Do you remember Chernobyl?

        How many years have passed? One generation. There life is in full swing.
        This is for you as a leading question, as from a joke about police officers in a deduction exam.
      3. Watchdog
        Watchdog 6 November 2015 09: 24 New
        0
        As there was no doctrine of network-centric warfare and a global disarming strike. You are from 80's - 90's are currently moving. The issue of nuclear deterrence has not been so clear for a long time.
    4. Corsair
      Corsair 5 November 2015 17: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Watchdog
      На самом деле не смотря на уверения "войны не будет", "война не возможна" в это верится все меньше и меньше. Ну вот посмотрите-ка - информационный фон просто перенасыщен словом "война" материалами о военных

      laughing This is the understanding in which it is assumed that there will be no war, the EU has a small intestine, and the Americans will try to throw us from afar with tomahawks, minutiae and other flying crap, trying not to get into the range of our weapons.
      While I am observing, this is purely selling the decommissioned or obsolete weapons to the natives for real profits, plus the support of the current government in the event of a riot by the local pro-Russian population.
      1. i80186
        i80186 5 November 2015 17: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Corsair
        trying not to get into the range of our weapons

        Will they fly to Mars? winked
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 5 November 2015 17: 52 New
          +5
          Quote: i80186
          Will they fly to Mars?

          Я думаю главбоссы уже придумали себе место для пережидания, а то что мелочевка (100-300 млнов) кое-где передохнет - им по одному месту, плюс они верят что своими про и другими инструментами собьют или нейтрализуют большинство наших ракет. Предполагаю, что даже какая-то группа "новых правителей новой России" уже заготовлена и ждет команды объявить ВВП и его команду врагами России и перехватить управление, в случае начала серьезной эскалации с США. Верещать скорее всего будут за мир во всем мире, мол зачем нам война и т.д. давить на потребительские фишки и спокойную жизнь.
          1. i80186
            i80186 5 November 2015 18: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Corsair
            I think the main bosses have already figured out a place for waiting, and the fact that small things (100-300 mln) will die in some places - they need one place, plus they believe that they will destroy or neutralize most of our missiles with their pro and other tools

            Есть такой фильм - "Нити"(1984 года выпуска). Посмотрите на досуге. Вот в нём описан ну очень щадящий сценарий, ибо не учитывается уничтожение всех имеющихся в природе АЭС, с выбросом в атмосферу сотен тысяч тонн радиоактивной начинки из них.
          2. max702
            max702 6 November 2015 09: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Corsair
            I think the main bosses have already come up with a place to wait, and the fact that small things (100-300 mln) will rest in some places -

            God forbid, after the use of strategic nuclear forces there would be 10-20 million on the earth .. And how much these people will be educated, have the scientific and technological knowledge is a big question .. But another 30-50 years will pass and hello all the Stone Age, those who something remembered they died, those who heard something from their parents did the same, and would remain if they were VERY lucky to be born after a big Arctic fox, with a bunch of gifts from the environment and other things, and do you think this handful can do something on a crap and ruined Earth?
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 6 November 2015 14: 00 New
              0
              Quote: i80186
              Look at your leisure. Here it describes a very gentle scenario, because it does not take into account the destruction of all nuclear power plants in nature, with the release into the atmosphere of hundreds of thousands of tons of radioactive filling from them.

              Quote: max702
              God forbid, after the use of strategic nuclear forces, 10-20 million would remain on earth.

              You reason so sensibly and I think so, but the Amer military thinks of their technical and military superiority multiple times, so crazy thoughts here and there to pop up wild Russia come up from time to time. Here sit their tomahawks and AUGs and bases with missile defense and drooling. belay Although financiers are still climbing here as therapists - They say that all these soldiers should fight, we will prescribe pills for Russia - our ears will fall off.
        2. dvg79
          dvg79 6 November 2015 05: 39 New
          0
          Do you believe that our rulers are able to command the launch of the ICBM on phishington?
          1. Watchdog
            Watchdog 6 November 2015 09: 33 New
            0
            Rulers don't know request but Dedhend Perimetrovich can and is capable of am .
  5. bad
    bad 5 November 2015 15: 03 New
    +3
    alarming signal, but I have no doubt in the work of our General Staff and the SVR .. I hope countermeasures will be adequate ..
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 November 2015 15: 06 New
    +7
    This is more a demonstration of the flag than a real combat threat. In which case, all of these units will delay the real attack for 15 minutes, until artillery and tactical aviation work out for reconnaissance and designating goals. Well, it's just chickens to laugh - a tank battalion! Protecting even a small - but a country.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 39 New
      -3
      Mountain shooter

      It looks like a flag show.

      Everyone perfectly understands the real capabilities of this or that group of forces.

      If you do not understand this, this does not mean that the opponents are fools.
  7. i80186
    i80186 5 November 2015 15: 08 New
    +7
    Well, yes, five tanks - this is a clear, undisguised, preparation for a war with Russia. Oh yes, they are the Latvian military experts. laughing
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    2. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 5 November 2015 15: 33 New
      12
      А почему собственно нет? Раньше на всю гордую Приебалтику было ровно 3 (три!) танка Т-72, которые эти недостраны передавали друг дружке в аренду для участия в учениях, где их (танки то бишь)периодически топили в грязи при преодолении (что для того же эстоооонца уже эпический подвиг!) противотанковых рвов. А сейчас танков стало больше, да еще каких - это же американские М1А2 "Абрамс" - хит сезона для русофобствующих автохтонов из всех трех республик. И таки да - они (эстонцы, латыши и литовцы) теперь реально готовы к войне с Россией - у них не только мощщщщные винтовки G-3 (экс-бундесвер) и "галиль", а также разнообразное военизированное старье в основном скандинавского и германского происхождения, но и американская техника: М1А2 "Абрамс", М2 "Брэдли" и - трепещите рюсськие оккупанты - штурмовики "Бородавочники". Ждемс, когда эти танки утонут в местной грязи и болотах! fellow
      But seriously, I believe that the Balts have one hope - since the Americans are driving their equipment and their soldiers to them, then they will protect the independence of the Baltic states from Russian aggression, in which case. Naive! laughing
      I have the honor.
      1. i80186
        i80186 5 November 2015 16: 48 New
        +5
        Here I remembered the accordion. laughing
  8. Urri
    Urri 5 November 2015 15: 09 New
    14
    I really want to see firsthand the maneuvering of the 62-ton Abrams-M1A1 in the Kurland swamps near Liepaja, Priekule, Vainode. I know the terrain, however
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 5 November 2015 15: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Urri
      I really want to see firsthand the maneuvering of the 62-ton Abrams-M1A1 in the Kurland swamps near Liepaja, Priekule, Vainode. I know the terrain, however

      Oops Places of military glory. Only the swamps did not see there, although Priekule is a very rotten place
      1. Altona
        Altona 5 November 2015 15: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Tusv
        Oops Places of military glory. Only the swamps did not see there, although Priekule is a very rotten place

        ----------------------
        I hope that the humid climate and loamy-sandy soils of Eastern Europe will have a positive effect on the performance of the mechanisms of NATO armored monitors ...
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 5 November 2015 16: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Altona
          Europe will positively affect the performance of the mechanisms of NATO armored monitors

          I don’t know, I'm not in the tank. But it is imperative to lay the film for PZM
  9. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 5 November 2015 15: 11 New
    +3
    Iskander complexes should simply be poked with Russian land on the borders with the Baltic states. it will contribute to world peace ...
    1. albert
      albert 5 November 2015 15: 25 New
      +5
      Жалко на них такие ракеты тратить.Лучше дивизион "Пионов", со спецбоеприпасами.
  10. Dezinto
    Dezinto 5 November 2015 15: 18 New
    +8
    Yah. They are showing them to their Baltic Hanuriks - say, bark on, - America is with you! :))

    Если что, в Калининградской области искандеров и самолетов хватит что-бы всю эту "помощь" закопать и утрамбовать.
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  12. Mik-51
    Mik-51 5 November 2015 15: 21 New
    +5
    In my opinion, there’s no need to worry and pay attention to this flea market.
    Самое главное для людей с Западным менталитетом - собственная жизнь, благополучие и целостность собственного сокровища - "задницы".
    They will never go to war on our country themselves, never ...
    That lackeys type Svidomo incite-it is, yes, but they themselves-no-eee.
    One must relate to this as a famous elephant from a famous fable of a famous author.
    Let them bark.
    The goal is to make us nervous, spend extra resources and money.
    No need to twitch, calmly continue what the Darkest is doing now.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 5 November 2015 19: 45 New
      0
      Mik-51

      It is in people. And not people have hammered a bolt on their opinion.
  13. Asadullah
    Asadullah 5 November 2015 15: 22 New
    +8
    Тенденциозно. Подготовка войны носит структурный характер, а не эпизодический медийный. Политико НАТО несет медленное сдавливающее движение. Не даром расходы ограничен 2% ВВП, это как раз золотое сечение для развития обороны, при котором достижимо гармоничное развитие экономики. Оборонный сектор дополняет гражданский и наоборот. Цель, - подчинение РФ правилам западной цивилизации, как минимум. В противном случае, ослабление экономики, провоцирование социального бунта, раскачка центробежных сил, и распад России гражданской войной. Даже кластером гражданских войн. Методы: гонка вооружений, экономические санкции, выращивание "несистемной" оппозиции, раскачка монетарной политики, космическая гонка за высокоорбитальный космос, интеллектуальное осушение. Можно еще добавить с дюжину более мелких направлений, но открытого военного противостояния там нет. Они же не дураки, потерять все нажитое добро одним ударом.
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 5 November 2015 15: 34 New
      +3
      I recall 1941. The question arises: why did Hitler need to climb Russia, and not squeeze the Anglo-Saxons in Africa, and then in Britain too?

      Не нужно расслаблять и быть наивными, как только представиться возможным "демократия" нанесет первый удар. (Вангую).
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 November 2015 15: 23 New
    +2
    And where did you get the idea that these tanks are for us?
    Maybe to clean up the remnants of Europe, for example.
    I hope we all understand that Russia will not fight in tanks for a long time,
    in case of full-scale hostilities.
    Because the tank near our border I perceive
    like pulling a grouping for more
    convenient transfer in the aisles of the European theater.
  15. KRIG55
    KRIG55 5 November 2015 15: 26 New
    +3
    The Baltic states do not want to understand that America is far beyond the puddle, and flying time for them will not even allow them to react to a gift that has arrived. You have to pay for everything.
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 5 November 2015 20: 47 New
      0
      Quote: KRIG55
      The Baltic states do not want to understand that America is far beyond the puddle, and flying time for them will not even allow them to react to a gift that has arrived. You have to pay for everything.

      and the most interesting thing about this is that the GDP warned everyone that it would hit first if it didn’t like it, or that these hot Baltic guys would stop sucking! the humor is that while they are pugs, but now they are pumped up with weapons and they can feel like elephants!
      And yet, the poppy revoked the license from a Boeing737 operating in Russia ... and no matter how the airbus fell due to outside exposure! and these are questions to the manufacturer ...
  16. yuriy55
    yuriy55 5 November 2015 15: 26 New
    +4
    If this is not a preparation for war, then what?

    Это самое простое очковтирательство, которое спонсируется из-за океана. Неужели кто-то в здравом уме может предположить, что какая-то европейская страна (даже военный блок) сможет победить в военном споре с Россией? Можно было бы "опустить" всю хвалёную европейскую систему ПРО сделав запуск холостого "Калибра" в какую-нибудь малонаселённую местность с целью проверки эффективности работы этой системы, но кто на это пойдёт? Так же, как никто не согласится устроить показательный бой "невидимки" с С-400. Впрочем, нам не стоит бить себя в грудь и доказывать свою военную "крутизну". Пусть смотрят имеющееся видео и тренируются на... танковом биатлоне laughing
  17. cniza
    cniza 5 November 2015 15: 29 New
    +4
    Such a normal occupation of the Baltic states and what will happen next? Do they really think that NATO was going to defend it, it is banal to take out scrap metal to the outskirts and arrange there a warehouse of abandoned equipment. wink
    1. Sagittarius YaNAO
      Sagittarius YaNAO 5 November 2015 16: 33 New
      +3
      Latvians will walk around these abrams and such a sense of dignity and pride will be for their country, strong and powerful. laughing laughing laughing
  18. Same lech
    Same lech 5 November 2015 15: 31 New
    +6
    In my opinion, there’s no need to worry and pay attention to this flea market.
    Самое главное для людей с Западным менталитетом - собственная жизнь, благополучие и целостность собственного сокровища - "задницы".


    Let me remind you what Estonians did with the Western mentality with those whom they considered superfluous ...

    In August 1942, soldiers and officers of the 36th police battalion, formed at the beginning of 1942 from volunteers in Estonia (Tartu, Kuressaare, Hiiumaa, Saaremaa), took part in an action to destroy the Jewish population in the area of ​​the city of Novogrudok (Belarus).

    According to the testimony of former protesters detained after the war, on August 3-4, the entire 36th police battalion was sent to Belarus, where he was unloaded at Novoelnya station, sent to Novogrudok and placed in barracks on the outskirts of the city. Mass executions by soldiers of this battalion were carried out in the area of ​​Novogrudok, Novoelnya station and near the village of Dyatlovo, 20-30 kilometers from Novogrudok. At night, police cordoned off houses, drove residents, including women and children, into the square, forced them to lie face down on the ground awaiting loading, and then took them in separate batches in the morning in trucks to the places of execution. The detainees themselves were forced to dig ditches, into which they then dumped the executed. In total, around 1000 people were killed in the Novogrudok district, according to the testimonies of the detainees, from 1000 to 1500 people in the village of Dyatlovo. The battalion was in the area for about a month, after which it was transferred to Stalingrad.


    This is only a small fraction of the crimes of the Baltic Nazis ... who have now become heroes for the modern Baltic ...
    and I am sure that in the event of a new invasion of RUSSIA, everything will be repeated again for the Russian civilian population ... shootings, executions, and mockeries of our women, children and the elderly will also begin ... evidence of this event in UKRAINE.

    And it is very dangerous to be superficial and naive about what is happening in the Baltic states.
  19. vell.65
    vell.65 5 November 2015 15: 32 New
    +1
    Balts of freedom wanted, they got it.
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 5 November 2015 16: 04 New
      +2
      YES. They wanted individual liberties, but surrendered the country, which Uncle Sam now uses for his own purposes.
      This is what individualism leads to.
  20. Engineer
    Engineer 5 November 2015 15: 37 New
    +1
    The Americans do not even repaint the technique of their desert camouflage, because it is costly to translate so much paint due to clanking with armor.
  21. slaw14
    slaw14 5 November 2015 15: 47 New
    +1
    The Baltic states are kamikaze monkeys. Everyone thinks that America will help them, as well as Afghanistan in the fight against the Taliban, where things do not go further than beautiful words about democracy.
  22. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 5 November 2015 15: 47 New
    +1
    Altogether, a total of about seventy vehicles were deployed in Lithuania, including five tanks and 13 infantry fighting vehicles.
    Yes, well, dear readers - 5 tanks, two anti-tank calculations in half an hour will be destroyed. These five tanks are really scary. Now they will attack Russia.
  23. Bayonet
    Bayonet 5 November 2015 15: 47 New
    +4
    "Если это не подготовка к войне, то что?"
    О господи!!! Опять "все пропало"? Десяток единиц бронетехники и полторы сотни солдат собрались завоевывать Россию? Не надоело? Тогда учения нашей ядерной триады – весь мир в труху ? Что вы как дети… лишь бы потрепаться. request
  24. max15243
    max15243 5 November 2015 15: 51 New
    +2
    Из статьи так и не понял, то ли пишут об угрозе России со стороны США и НАТО, то ли "подавление" возможных восстаний русских в Прибалтики. Для угрозы как то мелко, а вот для удержания Прибалтики в сфере своих интересов вполне достаточно.
  25. Urri
    Urri 5 November 2015 16: 00 New
    +2
    США перестали вкладывать в АУГ, и уже 20 лет вкладываются исключительно в "диванные войска". Им кто-то сказал, что только ими в эпоху Интернета можно выиграть войну. Ещё 10-15 лет, и оставшиеся прибалты уверуют, что злобные русские такие злобные именно по причине своего прямого происхождения от тиранозавров. И никто и ни за что прибалтов в обратном уже не убедит. Молодёжь оболванена настолько, что уже готовы убегать в леса с вилами, партизанить против русских, которые обязательно нападут. Не сейчас, так вот-вот, к весне точно. Им же надо отобрать у прибалта его нищенскую пенсию в 90 евро, убитый в хлам "Беларусь" и деревянный коровник с двумя коровами. Больше производств в Литве не осталось. А, да, плавучий супертерминал по разжижению катарского газа по 500 еуро за 1000 м. куб есть ещё. Если кому надо.
  26. ZSP
    ZSP 5 November 2015 16: 25 New
    +1
    Let's better consider the timing of the transfer. The question is how quickly they all (NATO members) will be able to catch up with the borders with Russia.
  27. search engine
    search engine 5 November 2015 16: 30 New
    +1
    Полицейский спецназ. Учения по подавлению "волнений" населения. Значит скоро следует ожидать принятия всевозможных законов и "мер" по ужесточению условий для русскоязычного населения прибалтики. У "шпротоделов" /руководства/ БОЛЬШИЕ проблемы с мозгами на фоне русофобии.Копошатся не к добру. Утешает недавнее заявление ВВП о защите соотечественников за рубежом.
  28. tommy717
    tommy717 5 November 2015 16: 33 New
    0
    2018 год. Западное побережье Мексики. Разгружаются корабли под Российскими флагами. Бронетехника (Т-90, АРМАТА) на полуприцепах отправляется на север страны, на границу с США. Через несколько месяцев конгресс США принимает решение о выводе своего контингента из республик Прибалтики. А может это не фантастика, а "воспоминания о будущем"?
  29. Wedmak
    Wedmak 5 November 2015 16: 33 New
    +1
    Ну, танковый батальон это еще не воевать. Это пара дней чтобы выявить их как цели и отработать удобным способом. Хотя потрепать нервы и личный состав в отдельно взятом районе конечно могут. А-10 куда опаснее, всегда можно найти "умницу"-пилота для провоцирования конфликта. Я ядерными игрушками вряд ли будут летать, себе дороже выйдет, а вот "случайный" залет зону ответственности ПВО РФ вполне возможен. На предмет прощупать какое у нас в районе ПВО.
    And even if such an airplane is shot down ... the airplane itself is not a pity, this is flying trash for normal air defense, the pilot will also receive compensation at home (maybe). But what a resonance on the sidelines of the information war .... here it is just not enough.
  30. koksalek
    koksalek 5 November 2015 16: 38 New
    0
    Have you prepared flower beds under the toilet for mattresses?
  31. gg.na
    gg.na 5 November 2015 16: 40 New
    0
    Well, if the little hands itch, let them start. And then we'll see how and what happens! repeat
  32. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 5 November 2015 16: 44 New
    +1
    It seems that the Baltic states are being prepared as a sacrificial sacrifice, this is the territory of which you can donate without any regrets, and the labuses are consumables in principle, it’s a pity that there are many Russians there, this Anglo-Saxon unreasonable worse igil only those civilians put in cells, but here this abomination wants to use the Russian population .
  33. fsps
    fsps 5 November 2015 16: 55 New
    0
    It would not hurt to fortify the area near the border with these wretched. Or at least well-equipped spare positions. Remember 1941!
    And remember this: http://topru.org/23297/kto-sdal-gitleru-sssr/
  34. Baloo
    Baloo 5 November 2015 17: 08 New
    +1
    If this is not a preparation for war, then what?


    They discard the junk for its money in order to lower the euro even more against the dollar. Transit for banderkraina? Why not....
  35. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 5 November 2015 17: 09 New
    +2
    Regarding the fact that the mattresses intend to hand over nuclear bombs to Fritz for bombing, our Foreign Ministry needs to raise the issue of violation by the parties of the Agreement on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, which could entail the transfer of Russia to any of the allies.
  36. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 5 November 2015 17: 19 New
    +3
    Neither for delivering any kind of blow to Russia, nor for deterring a sufficiently large group of forces, this is clearly enough.
    Most likely, all of these glands are designed to make the Balts feel unpunished and continue to spoil our slippers with renewed vigor.
  37. PValery53
    PValery53 5 November 2015 17: 32 New
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    Quote: _Vladislav_
    This may not bother us as much as the Russian military base in Mexico may not bother the United States.

    I agree. Yes, of course, it’s a mess that there are still not a dozen of our bases in Mexico. It's time to fix it.
  38. gammipapa
    gammipapa 5 November 2015 18: 09 New
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    It is clear that according to the plan they want to burn immediately from different angles, they surround them like wolves with red flags.
    The president needs to announce in advance that everyone who has left Russia in advance, no one will release the Balts in a new war. We have no extra fighters, and high-precision missiles will not be enough for everyone.
    Most likely he’s going to war, only the deaf doesn’t hear the drums, the Americans are stupefied and they don’t want to listen to anyone else, they don’t believe in anything that they’ll get, they just don’t even have such a thought, so they’ll most likely start.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 November 2015 18: 32 New
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      Quote: gammipapa
      Most likely he’s going to war, only the deaf does not hear the drums
      One of the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia is hallucinations. The most common form of hallucination is auditory hallucination. The onset of the disease, quite often, is accompanied by the presence of auditory hallucinations. Usually, patients hear different voices and sounds.
  39. Old warrior
    Old warrior 5 November 2015 18: 19 New
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    Something I have not heard about A-10 attack aircraft carriers of nuclear weapons, the pilot simply will not have time to slip away, but why such an alignment of amers.
  40. veksha50
    veksha50 5 November 2015 18: 20 New
    +1
    "министр обороны Латвии Раймонд Бергманис подписал контракт со шведским предприятием SAAB Dynamics AB о приобретении ракет ПВО ближнего радиуса RBS-70"...


    These are little things ... the Balts are having fun ... But Poland asks, requires the United States to sell her the Tomahawks for guard of their borders (!!!) ... I wonder how there the Poles associate weapons of attack with defense ...
  41. zmey77
    zmey77 5 November 2015 18: 28 New
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    the acreage of sprats is in full swing !!!!!!!
  42. guzik007
    guzik007 5 November 2015 18: 40 New
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    I do not understand spratodels. Well, do they really not think about the fact that a little something from their farms and such lovely landscapes will be left alone?
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 5 November 2015 19: 36 New
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      Quote: guzik007
      I do not understand spratodels. Well, do they really not think about the fact that a little something from their farms and such lovely landscapes will be left alone?

      Have you seen many brains in fish heads?
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 5 November 2015 22: 27 New
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        Oh how much I for half a century gnawed boiled Bosko-I confess, one slime came across the tongue)))
  43. aviator1913
    aviator1913 5 November 2015 19: 36 New
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    5 Abrams theoretically can take Moscow in 2 days, especially since we don’t even have one Bastion who can destroy them all along with one bop.

    But in fact, the article is bloated from a finger, 1 warthog with a nuclear charge, 3 ravings will take ZVO while 5 Abramsov will destroy CVO, etc. heresy...
  44. Zumich
    Zumich 5 November 2015 19: 53 New
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    The Americans have never fought in their land,
    -индейцев ограбили, согнали в "гетто лагерь", безмерно унизили,
    -military company in 1944-1945 at that time .... already pursued purely geopolitical goals,
    -modern military companies in Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, etc. it is pure banditry, robbery, seedlings of fascism.
    -в странах СНГ та же тактика, американцы "гадят" России, растят фашизм, а прикрываются месными людьми: грузинами, молдованами, украинцами, скоро прибалтами,
    I have a United States, associated with a scorpion, which, from impotent malice, will soon begin to eat and sting itself.
  45. Dikson
    Dikson 5 November 2015 21: 30 New
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    Again one haha? And why does NOBODY write about the order of our president to pay close attention to the successfully pumped and fucked GO programs in our country? About working with the public and developing new personal protective equipment against chemical and other WMD? I remember very well that in the USSR, at every more or less serious enterprise, there were people responsible for civil defense programs, kits of OZK, gas masks and other equipment for work shifts were stored .. Tell me, how long have you had to not only see, but at least hear , about the fact that any exercises were held at boiler houses, power plants, water intakes, and other structures of our cities, would people know the staff list, and so on? Do you yourself know (your relatives and friends) where is the nearest bomb shelter, for example? If the West is clearly preparing for war, then our people (I'm not talking about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation) continue to pick their nose .. The flywheel of the new World War has long gained momentum, only the blind can’t see it .. Today there are five tanks on our border, tomorrow there are five more. Who will count how many of them can be collected in a couple of months? And if the president offers to pay attention to the means of protecting the population ... - I think that jokes are inappropriate ..
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 5 November 2015 22: 33 New
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      ... And if the president offers to pay attention to the means of protecting the population ... - I think that jokes are inappropriate ..

      Ah, he offers ... Nun, then I am calm.
      Помню,в 70-х,80-х,в нашем не самом хилом химгородке противогазы висели буквально в каждой семье,в школах,больницах,детсадах- штабелями и каждые полгода инвентаризация... А ныне-хосподин президент "предлахает" Ну ссс...ка ,слов нет,б...
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 5 November 2015 23: 07 New
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        Anger is good .. In any case, anger is better than incomprehensible giggles and jokes about the troops accumulating on our borders ..
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 6 November 2015 00: 52 New
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          What a hee! my anger will be clearer if you imagine that my grandfather before his last attack did not shout: -First for Stalin! I think, but with anger I thought, b ... I didn’t take the bread, and because of these stupid politicians I left seven orphans, but nevertheless went on the attack and remained in that nameless field.
          ... And what are we worse? ...
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 6 November 2015 02: 40 New
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            We are all worse .. - I think if both of my veteran grandfathers saw what they were fighting for ... - I would definitely get a soldier’s belt on the ass from both .. They never told me that they were screaming when attacking, because the questions of the grandson about the war were answered very rarely, capaciously, sparingly and always unprintable ... But they honored their fellow soldiers and the holy holiday - Victory Day ..
          2. Gloomy
            Gloomy 6 November 2015 14: 15 New
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            We must be no worse. Otherwise, the guys are worthless to us.
    2. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 6 November 2015 01: 34 New
      +2
      Ну я купил себе квартиру в "сталинском" доме и в подвале оборудовано бомбоубежище с резервным, вынесенным на половину высоты дома, выходом! И не надо меня называть параноиком! Я всё таки читаю мировые новости.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 6 November 2015 02: 44 New
        +1
        "сталинки" хороши.. потолки высокие.. только кухонки маленькие, и перекрытия желательно поменять.. ))
  46. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 6 November 2015 03: 35 New
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    These horror stories about the war with NATO for grandmothers on the benches. The war with the members of this organization may be at the level of exchange of nuclear strikes and further to complete ****. Or there could be a war with terrorist gangs. Europeans with amers live well to die for someone. So this is the whole show, including for the narrow-minded journalists.
  47. Straight
    Straight 6 November 2015 18: 45 New
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    What confuses me in this story is different — how can Russia have normal relations with countries where Russians were stripped of their citizenship and made into second-class people? Even a small country does not behave this way ..