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Israel requested another military assistance from Washington

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Israel has provided the United States with a list of requested equipment and facilities, which exceeds the typical annual aid package of $ 3,1 billion, the newspaper writes Look with reference to Defense-aerospace.




According to the report, Tel Aviv requested the US "squadron F-15, a modern tanker aircraft, convertible planes V-22 Osprey, precision weaponlarge-scale financial assistance for the Hetz missile program and other military support. ”

According to the newspaper, the provided list was discussed "in closed meetings between high-level officials from both countries and was clarified during the talks between Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon and US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter in Washington last week."

Barack Obama also got acquainted with the list, who in a few days will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during the latter’s visit to the White House.

According to the resource, “Israel will be the only country in the Middle East that will receive a promising F-35 fighter, but Israeli officials also asked the F-15 squadron” because these planes are adapted to the various Israeli defense systems and are considered a workhorse of the country's air force.
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Wolfgang Rattay / Reuters
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 4 November 2015 11: 01 New
    36
    Here it is the independence and independence of Israel!
    Asked ... This is not true, most likely demanded!
    1. venaya
      venaya 4 November 2015 11: 06 New
      22
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Here it is the independence and independence of Israel!

      What kind of independence can there be, even money from Germany regularly comes, so to speak, an additional fin. support.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 4 November 2015 11: 17 New
        +8
        Quote: venaya
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Here it is the independence and independence of Israel!

        What kind of independence can there be, even money from Germany regularly comes, so to speak, an additional fin. support.

        From Russia, too, they shake it up spontaneously ... Well, we don’t need to envy us ...! laughing
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 4 November 2015 11: 26 New
          16
          Actually, Israel and the USA are one and the same! Israel asked the United States or vice versa - it doesn’t matter! This is all for the public! And so: he requested from himself!
          (Joke, but ...!)
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 4 November 2015 11: 31 New
            +2
            Quote: Baikonur
            Actually, Israel and the USA are one and the same! Israel asked the United States or vice versa - it doesn’t matter! This is all for the public! And so: he requested from himself!
            (Joke, but ...!)

            Весь мир должен "сброситься для пупка.." Святое дело! bully
            1. Temples
              Temples 4 November 2015 11: 56 New
              15
              The number of Jews in 2012 is 13,855 million people,
              of which 43% in Israel and
              39% - in the USA [1].
              New York is the city with the largest number of Jewish residents.

              Who is dependent on whom is the question!
              The Jewish family - all are obliged to each other and no one owes to anyone.)))
              Or vice versa!

              So this is really a requirement rather than a request.
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 4 November 2015 12: 00 New
                -1
                Quote: Temples
                43% in Israel and
                39% - in the USA

                Interesting rest where smile
                1. Hello
                  Hello 4 November 2015 12: 01 New
                  34
                  Quote: miru mir
                  Interesting rest where

                  On the way. hi
                  1. Baikonur
                    Baikonur 4 November 2015 12: 23 New
                    +5
                    Quote: miru mir
                    Quote: Temples
                    43% in Israel and
                    39% - in the USA

                    Interesting rest where smile

                    EVERYWHERE!!! hi
                  2. Boz_canavar
                    Boz_canavar 4 November 2015 12: 28 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Hello
                    On the way.

                    ))))))))) +
                  3. Sterlya
                    Sterlya 4 November 2015 13: 44 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Hello
                    Quote: miru mir
                    Interesting rest where

                    On the way. hi

                    probably wandering through the desert to the next promised land, after some newly arrived prophet ...
                    I read the Torah and every time I think how nevertheless this Jew was cunning. Write one thing. And push it to the masses ?! laughing And to be mistaken for Faith ?!
                2. BilliBoms09
                  BilliBoms09 4 November 2015 12: 09 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Temples
                  43% in Israel and
                  39% - in the USA
                  Interesting rest where
                  And the rest around the world except Armenia.
                  There are no Jews in Armenia, there are no Armenians in Israel. Although in all other countries they are present. Probably two God's chosen people do not like each other.
                  1. Hello
                    Hello 4 November 2015 12: 12 New
                    18
                    Quote: BilliBoms09
                    There are no Jews in Armenia, there are no Armenians in Israel.

                    Apparently the Armenian quarter in Jerusalem is inhabited by the Chukchi.
                    1. Sterlya
                      Sterlya 4 November 2015 13: 50 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Hello
                      Quote: BilliBoms09
                      There are no Jews in Armenia, there are no Armenians in Israel.

                      Apparently the Armenian quarter in Jerusalem is inhabited by the Chukchi.

                      Armenians are normal. You can do business with them. Never failed.
                      And God forbid with Ukrainians what to start, and with Georgians (purely for work, in the field of construction) I got burned several times
                    2. Amnestied
                      Amnestied 4 November 2015 18: 58 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Hello
                      Apparently the Armenian quarter in Jerusalem is inhabited by the Chukchi.

                      NOT the Jews will not allow this.

                      "Беженцы лагеря Аида, мы оккупационная армия. Вы бросаете камни, мы будем атаковать вас газом, до тех пор пока вы все не умрёте. Дети, молодые, старики вы все умрёте, мы не оставим вас в живых. Мы арестовали одного из вас, он сейчас у нас, мы схватили его у себя дома и мы будем избивать и убьём его, вот увидите, если будете бросать камни. Возвращайтесь домой или мы будем атаковать вас газом до смерти, ваши семьи, ваших детей, каждого. Мы убьём, убьём вас! Слушайте меня, возвращайтесь домой, это будет лучше для вас".
                      1. Ahmed
                        Ahmed 4 November 2015 22: 21 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Amnestied
                        "Беженцы лагеря Аида, мы оккупационная армия.


                        Вот что меня всегда поражало в арабах, они реально думают что все "кафиры" тупее их и никто не владеет арабским lol

                        "Англицкий преревод" под картинкой - откровенная пурга. Из матюгальника штатное и толерастное "граждане разойдитесь" как при любых беспорядках в ЛЮБОЙ стране мира. fellow
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                  2. miru mir
                    miru mir 4 November 2015 12: 34 New
                    +4
                    In Israel, a lot of Armenians, dear) About loves, dislikes and God's election I will not say anything, I do not know hi
                    1. Amnestied
                      Amnestied 4 November 2015 21: 08 New
                      -4
                      Quote: miru mir
                      In Israel, a lot of Armenians, dear) About loves, dislikes and God's election I will not say anything, I do not know

                      Зачетно протроллил, а по теме слабо? Ну хотя бы о "Дети, молодые,старики вы все умрете"?
                      1. wanderer
                        wanderer 4 November 2015 21: 22 New
                        +1
                        Wise guy, he wrote this post at 12 in the afternoon, and now you post your left translation from Arabic and say that he is Troll ?? So maybe the troll is still YOU !!! And by the way, the translation is not accurate to say the least.)))
                      2. miru mir
                        miru mir 4 November 2015 21: 38 New
                        +3
                        Why did you roll that?
                        Quote: Amnestied
                        "Дети, молодые,старики вы все умрете"

                        Here you’ve scrolled, only somehow sad and stupid laughing
                        There are really many Armenians in Israel. I personally know four. And on the topic, what interests you?
                  3. Eugene-Eugene
                    Eugene-Eugene 4 November 2015 13: 22 New
                    +8
                    Don't like each other

                    This is a long story. Even in the ancient world, Armenians and Jews held a significant part of trade and competed with each other. In Alexandria, in the ethnic neighborhoods, they threw up the corpses of their compatriots to each other, then to accuse them of murder.
                  4. Skifotavr
                    Skifotavr 4 November 2015 14: 05 New
                    0
                    Quote: BilliBoms09
                    Quote: Temples
                    43% in Israel and
                    39% - in the USA
                    Interesting rest where
                    And the rest around the world except Armenia.
                    There are no Jews in Armenia, there are no Armenians in Israel. Although in all other countries they are present. Probably two God's chosen people do not like each other.

                    Not anymore? Perhaps, but they used to be in Armenia, they were simply not much advertised. Petrosyan, by the way, is an Armenian Jew.
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                4. askort154
                  askort154 4 November 2015 12: 50 New
                  +9
                  miru mir.....Интересно-остальные где


                  USA - 6,5-7 million
                  France - 600 thousand
                  Canada - 390 thousand
                  England - 350 thousand
                  Argentina - 280 thousand
                  Russia - 228 thousand
                  Austria - 120 thousand
                  Germany - 112 thousand
                  Brazil - 100 th.
                  South Africa - 100 thousand
                  Israeli establishment exerts powerful pressure on the Jewish lobby of Wall Street
                  (banks, mainly in the hands of the Jews)), which in turn puts pressure on the US Congress and Senate.
                  1. Mikhail Krapivin
                    Mikhail Krapivin 4 November 2015 17: 05 New
                    0
                    Damn, before America (banks) were driven by PABs (Protestant, Anglo-Saxon, white). And now they rule - still hello? About times, about morals ..
                  2. Kornilovets
                    Kornilovets 4 November 2015 17: 49 New
                    +3
                    Если учесть, что банки по всему миру у них в руках, вот вам и современное теневое правительство, "каменщики" - ни дна им, не покрышки...
                    1. Amnestied
                      Amnestied 31 January 2016 21: 26 New
                      0
                      Quote: Kornilovist
                      Если учесть, что банки по всему миру у них в руках, вот вам и современное теневое правительство, "каменщики" - ни дна им, не покрышки.

                      good
                  3. Kornilovets
                    Kornilovets 4 November 2015 17: 57 New
                    0
                    I would also like to find out how many dug in Hohland.
                    But apparently not a little.
                    For example...
                    The Menorah (4 Sholom Aleichem St.) is the largest Jewish center in the world [51] and the synagogue on ul. Sholem Aleichem.

                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D
                    1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA

                    And this is only in Jerusalem on the Dnieper (Dnepropetrovsk).
                    1. Karlovar
                      Karlovar 4 November 2015 21: 55 New
                      -1
                      В нынешней власти в Киеве и регионах Украины попробуйте найти украинца!!!! Даже типо "грузин" ИСААКашвили-грузин ли??? Разве только Авак(ЯН)ов-армянин,да и то чистый ли???
                      1. miru mir
                        miru mir 4 November 2015 22: 08 New
                        +4

                        Yeah, among the three heroes ... laughing
                    2. Amnestied
                      Amnestied 31 January 2016 22: 19 New
                      0
                      Quote: Kornilovist
                      And this is only in Jerusalem on the Dnieper (Dnepropetrovsk).

                      good
                  4. Uncle VasyaSayapin
                    Uncle VasyaSayapin 4 November 2015 22: 47 New
                    +1
                    Russia 228 thousand!? But if you believe the eyes and ears - more than a few times.
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 November 2015 12: 02 New
            -6
            for Baikonur:
            "Вообще-то Израиль и США - одно и тоже! "////

            Pah-pah, do not jinx ... I would give dearly to your gold
            prophecies come true! drinks
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 4 November 2015 12: 06 New
              +8
              Quote: voyaka uh
              I would give dearly that your golden prophecies come true!


              Are you also dreaming of the American dream? drinks
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 4 November 2015 12: 15 New
                0
                We do not dream of her, we practically do it with us.
                I want Israel to be the second California that
                I visit sometimes and really love.
                Here are just all sorts of IG Hamas al-Qaida together
                rake ... fellow drinks
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 4 November 2015 12: 40 New
                  +8
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  I want Israel to become the second California


                  and Arnie will be yours? laughing


                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Here are just all sorts of IG Hamas al-Qaida with a rake


                  with the Americans? yes California will remain a dream .. wassat
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 4 November 2015 13: 12 New
                    +2
                    I would take from there the old man Arnie, along with his Harley motorcycle, villa and strong young bl ... mi. All is a terminator! not khukh-mukhra ... laughing
                    1. Eugene-Eugene
                      Eugene-Eugene 4 November 2015 13: 42 New
                      +4
                      I want Israel to become the second California

                      God help. And silenok enough? In California, lives under 40 million. In Israel 8 million +? (2 million?) Illegal Arab workers. In Taiwan, 23 million (urbanization under 100%), although they are only engaged in the production of printed circuit boards and assembly. Chan-Kayshists have a GDP of one trillion dollars, Israel-if 300 billion is accumulated, then that's good. Under the conditions of a militarized Jewish state, it is necessary to support the military industry, it’s good that at least the Americans have armed themselves with polarities, if not more. But the local military industry requires labor resources + consumer goods + kibbutsi ... Where will you take people for California with a population of Krasnodar Territory? You would have to deal with the organization of the global automotive industry, shipbuilding and the space industry ... Although probably the Arabs, too, will interfere
                      1. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 4 November 2015 14: 32 New
                        0
                        "///Я хочу, чтоб Израиль стал второй Калифорнией////
                        "Бог в помощь. А силенок хватит? В Калифорнии живет под 40 млн////

                        Вы слишком буквально восприняли мой пост. ВВП Калифорнии 2.3 триллиона (!) долларов. Я имел в виду "стать"- как центр технологий и... стиль жизни. И в этом направлении кое-что получается.
                      2. Eugene-Eugene
                        Eugene-Eugene 4 November 2015 14: 57 New
                        +1
                        Ясно, неплохая экономическая специализация может получиться: что-то вроде "большой университетской общины" в окружении бедуинов smile The leaders of medicine, Israel has already managed to break out. With the profitability of this segment are not familiar?
                      3. _Vladislav_
                        _Vladislav_ 4 November 2015 17: 28 New
                        +1
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        I want Israel to be the second California that
                        I visit sometimes and really love.

                        Да в красоте Калифорнии не откажешь. Был там один раз всего (по командировочным делам), в Сан-Франциско, даже удалось посетить гольф клуб "Лейк Мерсед", недалеко от Дейли-Сити. В целом очень понравилось.

                        So basically you have (had) been to Philadelphia three times, Pennsylvania. Well this is where the reconnaissance balloon fell recently.
            2. Good me
              Good me 4 November 2015 12: 40 New
              +8
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Here are just all sorts of IG Hamas al-Qaida together
              rake ...


              Вместе... с КЕМ ? ? ? С США ? Что-то Израиль не был замечен в "рядах Коалиции борцов с ИГИЛ", даже номинально...

              On the contrary, your aircraft deals (inflicted) attacks exclusively on the objects of the SAA ...

              И NO ONE по объектам ИГИЛ, "фронта", и им подобным...

              Wrestlers ...
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            4. mitrich
              mitrich 4 November 2015 16: 49 New
              +1
              I look, the sons of the Izralievs do not worry that they are signatories, they are also proud of it and the handouts always beg. And the ambition is like the free! Well, purely Baltic! laughing
            5. Mikhail Krapivin
              Mikhail Krapivin 4 November 2015 17: 09 New
              -1
              Seven million Jews rake a billion IG-Hamas al-Qaeda? We will hold your fingers with a cross!;)
        2. yushch
          yushch 4 November 2015 12: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          for Baikonur:
          "Вообще-то Израиль и США - одно и тоже! "////

          Pah-pah, do not jinx ... I would give dearly to your gold
          prophecies come true! drinks


          Come on, the whole world is aware that Israel is the fifty-first state of the United States. For fun, of course, but in every joke, as you know ... yes
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 4 November 2015 12: 28 New
            +3
            the whole world is aware that Israel is the fifty-first US state
            Я бы сказал : Израиль - первый штат США!!! Так что мечта "вояки ух" сбылась уже давно! Калифорния - ниже в списке! laughing
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 4 November 2015 12: 51 New
          13
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Pah-pah, do not jinx ... I would give dearly to your gold
          the prophecies came true

          Dear, why the hell did Israel vote for the continuation of the blockade of Cuba for a couple with the United States?
          What bad thing did these cigar lovers do to you.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 November 2015 13: 15 New
            -10
            "Что плохога вам сделали эти любители сигар"///

            Nothing for me. I respect the Cubans.
            And the vote is for the campaign. Allies. You to me - I to you recourse .
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 4 November 2015 13: 25 New
              +8
              Quote: voyaka uh
              And the vote is for the campaign. Allies.

              It is strange why only Israel is from all allies. Probably for weapons wink
            2. Baikonur
              Baikonur 4 November 2015 13: 35 New
              +7
              Nothing for me. I respect the Cubans.
              And the vote is for the campaign. Allies. You to me - I to you

              Well, Wow - what a cunning - I respect the Cubans, but if necessary - I’ll strangle you!
              For company! With Ugly Uglodrazotny friend-Uglodnogo USA! AND? What kind ....!!!
              Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are ........ !!!!!
              Cuba your respect nabolt is not necessary !!!
              1. Temples
                Temples 4 November 2015 13: 42 New
                +4
                And the vote is for the campaign. Allies. You to me - I to you

                Тут я согласен. У вас действительно "голо сование".
                All strive to stick for the company or substitute.
                You to me - I to you

                So each other and dryuchte. laughing
                1. Catafract
                  Catafract 4 November 2015 17: 48 New
                  +3
                  Cuba, as it were, was not seen as friends of Israel, so Israel, as it were, was not obliged to them ....
            3. GSH-18
              GSH-18 4 November 2015 16: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "Что плохога вам сделали эти любители сигар"///

              Nothing for me. I respect the Cubans.
              And the vote is for the campaign. Allies. You to me - I to you recourse .

              That's right. Better not to anger the exceptional. And then they can not give money along with weapons. A purely pragmatic approach ... crying
            4. Mikhail Krapivin
              Mikhail Krapivin 4 November 2015 17: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "Что плохога вам сделали эти любители сигар"///

              And the vote is for the campaign. recourse .



              Yes Yes. For a company and a Jew strangled himself, it was not for nothing that they came up with a saying.
          2. Kaiten
            Kaiten 4 November 2015 16: 44 New
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Pah-pah, do not jinx ... I would give dearly to your gold
            the prophecies came true

            Dear, why the hell did Israel vote for the continuation of the blockade of Cuba for a couple with the United States?
            What bad thing did these cigar lovers do to you.

            Hello, Alexander. Cuba loves Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinians too much. In the forefront of condemning Israel, here we put in it our 5 shekels. Nothing personal, just hinted, want a good relationship with the US, change a bit foreign policy.
            1. Kornilovets
              Kornilovets 4 November 2015 18: 02 New
              0
              You are more comfortable, for example, as Germany is now :)
          3. Ahmed
            Ahmed 4 November 2015 22: 16 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What bad thing did these cigar lovers do to you.


            Nothing good either.

            В далеком 1973 году. В войну "судного дня" Куба послала в Сирию (По указке СССР) приблизительно 3000 солдат, включая экипажи танков, которые воевали против евреев.

            Ну и на голосованиях ООН Куба всегда (Тоже по указке СССР) голосовала "против Израиля" и "за Арабов" уже не первый десяток лет.

            So, even a villain like me will not blame Jews for dislike of Cubans lol
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          5. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2015 17: 07 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Dear, why the hell did Israel vote to continue the blockade of Cuba with the United States? What bad thing did these cigar lovers do to you.

            To support the fight against smoking laughing
        4. Ahmed
          Ahmed 4 November 2015 22: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Pah-pah, do not jinx ... I would give dearly to your gold
          prophecies come true!


          Pah-pah, tip your tongue! belay

          Израиль остался единственной страной западного мира в которой еще демократия не выродилась в культ сексотов исповедающих фемено-фашизм, ювенальный ужас, и педераст-кратию. Счастье Израиля - что он "большая деревня" и окружение не позволяет расслабится и начать вырождаться как "толстотупые".
          Israel has always tried to keep the middle ground between the soviets and the west, borrowing the best features of both systems and bypassing their worst sides. Israel must remain the unique Israel that was founded, otherwise an ass.

          You do not want to turn the Isailtians into IT:
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    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 4 November 2015 11: 47 New
      13
      Quote: MIKHAN
      What kind of independence can there be, even money from Germany regularly comes, so to speak, an additional fin. support.

      Quote: MIKHAN
      From Russia, too, they shake it up spontaneously ... Well, we don’t need to envy us ...!

      I’m afraid of one more warning, therefore I won’t post a photo, but only a signature to it (and without a photo taxis) -

      "С кого бы нам ещё получить за Холокост?"

      There is a photograph on the Internet, who are interested - easy to find. laughing
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 4 November 2015 11: 53 New
        +9
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        I’m afraid of one more warning, therefore I won’t post a photo, but only a signature to it (and without a photo taxis) -

        "С кого бы нам ещё получить за Холокост?"

        Не вы один "боитесь"... wassat
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 4 November 2015 15: 20 New
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Не вы один "боитесь".

          Vi est russki ortodoks laughing
        2. shvn
          shvn 4 November 2015 21: 52 New
          0
          And what? Moders of them?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 November 2015 22: 12 New
            +3
            Quote: shvn
            And what? Moders of them?


            yes we are without exception all orthodox ...

            By the way, if frankly let both Mikhan and Soldaten admit that for the most part they are raking for a mat ... like me, in principle .. but like you too ... I can give a printout of warnings as evidence ..
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 5 November 2015 03: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: vorobey
              By the way, if frankly let both Mikhan and Soldaten admit that for the most part they are raking for a mat ... like me, in principle .. but like you too ... I can give a printout of warnings as evidence ..

              Dear Alexander! Recognizing the unquestioning correctness of the moderators on any resource, I would like to note that I will never allow an explicit mate in communication anywhere (education, you know, not that), and the fear of warning in this context is due to the fact that in one of the violations of the Rules for I was accused of VO that, as an illustration of my thesis about the financing of Hitler by the bankers and industrialists of the nation affected by him, I gave a list of these persons and a caricature of Hitler in a pile and pace.

              The listing is a good thing, but despite my age, my memory does not fail me. laughing

              In general, nationalism and religious fanaticism are not my friends. There is no bad nationality or bad religion - there are bad people. I treat every religion and nationality very well, until someone begins to slaughter infidels, organize crusades, or create mono-ethnic states. hi

              Кстати, ещё одно предупреждение у меня было за то, что я назвал гомосексуалистов простым и общеупотребительным словом, которое есть даже в словарях. Тем словом, которым их всегда и все между собой называли, пока к нам в 90-х не пришёл гладенький западный эвфемизм "...".

              So my fears are by no means an accusation or reproach to anyone. Just an attempt to abide by the Rules .... hi
          2. Ahmed
            Ahmed 4 November 2015 22: 26 New
            +5
            Quote: shvn
            And what? Moders of them?

            But didn’t you know that this resource is secretly owned by Mossad? wassat
            And here they give the anti-Semites a runaway that bi is easy to track and record all the same in shooting lists. wassat
            It will be funny, one day a couple of thousand Natsik wakes up - and his head is still in the nightstand. fellow
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      2. Zheka40
        Zheka40 4 November 2015 13: 49 New
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        +++! Exactly.
      3. Kornilovets
        Kornilovets 4 November 2015 18: 09 New
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        сейчас ряд историков указывает на "удивительную" избирательность этого "Холокост"...

        But as long as I live, I wonder why we are issued, warnings for it, etc., although the Russian people in 41-45 did more than anyone to destroy Nazism, everyone knows about our losses, still no accurate data ...

        Но чуть, что сразу "холокост".. а Миллионы Иванов, Николаев, Михаилов, Александров, которые головы сложили....

        You need to remember your heroes, and honor your story. And do not pour water on someone else's mill ...
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 4 November 2015 22: 56 New
          +1
          The Chinese for 35 million victims of genocide by Japan and the Soviet Union for 27 million victims in the war with Germany never managed to get a forfeit from Germany, only Israel managed (10 times fewer victims of the Holocaust) !!!! Marketing, not otherwise ....
      4. Ahmed
        Ahmed 5 November 2015 03: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        "С кого бы нам ещё получить за Холокост?"


        Yeah, you're so witty, take it easy ...
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 4 November 2015 11: 53 New
      +1
      they’re not beggars at all, you start wassat already expect a wave of cons from our Jewish interlocutors ...
  2. Maxom75
    Maxom75 4 November 2015 11: 36 New
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    You don’t understand anything - it’s such a Jewish trick to beg for help every year and at the same time tell everyone how cool and independent Israel is. In this case, periodically still rude to the amers, and this is Jewish gratitude.
  • kil 31
    kil 31 4 November 2015 11: 06 New
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    Israel has provided the United States with a list of equipment and equipment requested that exceeds a typical $ 3,1 billion annual aid package.
    And if they don’t give, what will happen? Will they really shout to the whole world that the USA is bastards and a terrorist state. Maybe then they will vote for the lifting of sanctions from Cuba? I would like to look at this situation when they refuse to provide free aid.
    1. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 4 November 2015 11: 49 New
      +2
      when they refuse to provide free aid.
      The US is not and: the diots refuse.
      It’s one thing to go through tenders, where, in most cases, they will be thrown through an organ, another thing the military-industrial complex will take denyushko out of pocketgoofpayer. 3 gigabytes here, 3 gigabytes there ...
    2. Kaiten
      Kaiten 4 November 2015 16: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: keel 31
      And if they don’t give, what will happen? Will they really shout to the whole world that the USA is bastards and a terrorist state.

      If they do not, Egypt will again lose Sinai. Read the terms of the camp of the David world.
  • Finches
    Finches 4 November 2015 11: 09 New
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    Israel has never been independent, but there is one caveat, you probably understand what I mean, so most likely it would be more correct to name the article "Израиль поставил задачу Вашингтону предоставить очередную военную помощь".... laughing
    1. venaya
      venaya 4 November 2015 11: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: Finches
      ... "Израиль поставил задачу Вашингтону предоставить очередную военную помощь"....

      Everything in our world is not done for free, it is very likely that Israel requires help for any services. This cannot be ruled out in any way.
    2. 34 region
      34 region 4 November 2015 11: 22 New
      +1
      But what did he not set the task for Washington not to create Islamic groups? At first they created groups, and then they began to fight with them. Is it a visionary or cunning policy? And why is Israel constantly in conflict with its neighbors? Are all the neighbors bad and only he is one good? What is the interest in pouring gas, setting fire, and then asking for fire extinguishers? Well, or how the US sends its fire brigades. For some reason, all politicians are diligently evading the coverage of such issues.
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 4 November 2015 12: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: Region 34
        Are all the neighbors bad and only he is one good?

        You got excited with the neighbors, with Jordan and Egypt, the world hi
        1. shvn
          shvn 4 November 2015 21: 57 New
          0
          ))) And for how long, are you peaceful not ours?
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 4 November 2015 22: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: shvn
            And how long are you peaceful, not ours?

            I hope so.
        2. venaya
          venaya 4 November 2015 23: 41 New
          0
          Quote: miru mir
          with neighbors — with Jordan and Egypt — the world

          The world may be peace, but here is our airplane on the border between Israel and Egypt and crashed. Is it a coincidence?
          1. Ahmed
            Ahmed 5 November 2015 00: 23 New
            +3
            Quote: venaya
            Quote: miru mir
            with neighbors — with Jordan and Egypt — the world

            The world may be peace, but here is our airplane on the border between Israel and Egypt and crashed. Is it a coincidence?


            Самолет упал в 100км от Израильско-Египетской границы, не, я конечно понимаю что для России 100км это не расстояние а так, "от подьезда до булошной"... Но все же стоит иногда "всплывать на поверхность", особенно при нестерпимом желании опорожнить словесный пузырь. request
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 5 November 2015 08: 33 New
            +2
            Aircraft? Are you talking about a passenger plane with more than 200 people? Yeah ...
            But nothing
            firstly to the border more than a hundred kilometers?
            secondly, do you know how to express yourself specifically?
            and thirdly, you attract by your ears a convenient and familiar version for yourself, is the ZHDY guilty of everything?
            1. venaya
              venaya 5 November 2015 16: 22 New
              0
              Quote: miru mir
              firstly to the border more than a hundred kilometers?
              secondly, do you know how to express yourself specifically?
              and thirdly, you attract by your ears a convenient and familiar version for yourself - it’s all your fault ...

              "more than a hundred kilometers to the border" - А на донбасе ещё поболее будет, и что, кого там назначили виновным ? Опять тех кого вы так называете?
              Конкретно: горячая точка в мире, до мира, как до луны, опасно там и все это знают. Отсюда: неудивительны любые варианты, почему я не имею права высказывать все возможнык варианты, ведь даже следствие не закончено, а даже здесь, на сайте, большинство уверено буд-то бы компания перевозчик, и мне это не нравиться, я предлагаю "огласить весь список" подозреваемых, а вы тут естественно против, видимо есть заинтересованность, и это не спроста. Не забудем: действие израильских РЛС гражданской авиации значительно превышает величину в 100 километров, если кто этого не помнит.
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 5 November 2015 16: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: venaya
                Again those whom you call so

                What are you speaking about?
                Следствие ещё не закончено, но вы уже ищите след "злых сионистов". Я про то, что вам ближе, привычней и удобней. laughing Although yes-to express options you have every right. There are clowns about interpreting aliens.
                1. venaya
                  venaya 6 November 2015 00: 17 New
                  -1
                  Quote: miru mir
                  Следствие ещё не закончено, но вы уже ищите след "злых сионистов". Я про то, что вам ближе, привычней и удобней. Хотя да-высказывать варианты вы имеете полное право

                  Вы там в своём глазу поглядите повнимательнее. Напомню: "Орден Приорат Сион" основан в XI-ом веке в провинции Шампань. Сионистов по всему миру пруд пруди, даже на этом сайте не мало. И при чём тут молодое государство Израиль? Вы чё, хотите сказать что это государство сплошь состоит из сионистов? По моему мнению сионистов в США даже больше. У вас какие-то странные взгляды на жителей отдельной страны. И в Израиле и в других странах живут люди с различными взглядами, вы этого совсем не хотите учитывать, у вас просто сильно развитые экстремисткие взгляды на все события, а жаль и клоунов вы зря сюда приплюсовали, в других странах их ещё больше, но вам почему-то надо нас_ать только на Россию.
                  1. miru mir
                    miru mir 6 November 2015 10: 51 New
                    +1
                    You didn’t confuse me with anyone?
                    Quote: venaya
                    you for some reason we only need to nas_at Russia

                    You talk about me personally, or in this case your you-uniting?
                    You could not spread your thoughts through the tree, but formulate your thoughts more clearly. Of course, if you have any thoughts, for now I see a set of unrelated sentences.
      2. venaya
        venaya 4 November 2015 12: 48 New
        -3
        Quote: Region 34
        ... What is the interest in pouring gas, burning, and then asking for fire extinguishers? ... For some reason, all politicians are diligently moving away from covering such issues.

        If it is beneficial for someone to fan the fire, and then extinguish it, then why not? Benefit (gesheft) always comes first. Money doesn't smell.
    3. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2015 17: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      Israel has never been independent, but there is one caveat, you probably understand what I mean, so most likely it would be more correct to name the article "Израиль поставил задачу Вашингтону предоставить очередную военную помощь".... laughing

      Washington replied - there is soldier
    4. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2015 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Finches
      Israel has never been independent, but there is one caveat, you probably understand what I mean, so most likely it would be more correct to name the article "Израиль поставил задачу Вашингтону предоставить очередную военную помощь".... laughing

      Washington replied - there is soldier
  • marinier
    marinier 4 November 2015 11: 13 New
    +7
    Dobroi vremia sutok, g-in MIXAH!
    Vi razve bit somnenij, kto patron pejsatix ortodoks?
    Na moi vzgliad, vse prosto na bliz-vostok terug keer istinij igrok (v dannij moment ja imet na vid RUSSLAND, eto dla peisatix-ortodox esli ne ponimat) i poetom zapaxlo derzat otvet za sionism.
    V Narod RUSSLAND kovorit "" PIPEC podkralsi nazametni. wassat
    1. glavnykarapuz
      glavnykarapuz 4 November 2015 11: 25 New
      11
      Big request comrad, write in Russian letters, you can break your eyes.
      Выведи экранную русскую клавиатуру в конце концов и пиши на языке Пушкина кириллицей, а то у вас "забугорцев" одни типовые "отмазки" - то русской "клавы" нет(на Алиэксперс загляни, там недорого с доставкой), то "винда" нерусская.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 4 November 2015 11: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: glavnykarapuz
        Big request comrad, write in Russian letters, you can break your eyes.
        Выведи экранную русскую клавиатуру в конце концов и пиши на языке Пушкина кириллицей, а то у вас "забугорцев" одни типовые "отмазки" - то русской "клавы" нет(на Алиэксперс загляни, там недорого с доставкой), то "винда" нерусская.


        come on, don’t find fault .. how can ..
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 4 November 2015 11: 55 New
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        Quote: glavnykarapuz
        Big request comrad, write in Russian letters, you can break your eyes.
        Выведи экранную русскую клавиатуру в конце концов и пиши на языке Пушкина кириллицей, а то у вас "забугорцев" одни типовые "отмазки" - то русской "клавы" нет(на Алиэксперс загляни, там недорого с доставкой), то "винда" нерусская.

        Even if he writes hieroglyphs. Now our star-david-striped colleagues will wake up - they’ll write such dirt about us in Pushkin’s language — that it’s better to read the hieroglyphs.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 4 November 2015 18: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Even if he writes hieroglyphs. Now our star-david-striped colleagues will wake up - they’ll write such dirt about us in Pushkin’s language — that it’s better to read the hieroglyphs.


          WAKE UP ... laughing They ran ... laughing
          1. Amnestied
            Amnestied 1 February 2016 13: 10 New
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            Quote: Zoldat_A

            Woke up ... Ran ...

            good
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 4 November 2015 11: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: marinier
      Na moi vzgliad, vse prosto na bliz-vostok terug keer istinij igrok (v dannij moment ja imet na vid RUSSLAND, eto dla peisatix-ortodox esli ne ponimat) i poetom zapaxlo derzat otvet za sionism.


      Anthony, good day ... the fact that one of the Players returned to the Middle East is true ... but ... there are many immigrants from the former USSR in Israel, so Israel should not be afraid of aggravation ... but the fact that Russia will try to normalize relations between Israel and its neighbors - I think the fact ... it’s difficult to influence Israel .. there is someone to influence, but Israel will have to reckon with opinions when making decisions ... How did you find us ... in the sense of the site .. At NATO, what military secrets are we revealing here? laughing
      1. marinier
        marinier 4 November 2015 12: 31 New
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        Dbdrij den, sorry ne znat Vash naam.
        Ja imet 4est slujba sekyrit perimetr ambassador in RUSSLAND.
        A v nato eshe ne to gotov delat 4to-bi znat izjan Russische Federation.
        No ja dumat kishka tonka u nato.
        PSNarod proshu ne ser4ati na mni, met kirilica pisat mne 100% kaput.
        Moe mnenij gramotik ja pisat ili net, Vam sudit gospoda, glavnoi ja mogu donest do Vas svoi misli.
        S uvajeniem k Vam gospoda.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 November 2015 12: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: marinier
          PSNarod proshu ne ser4ati na mni


          Don’t worry, Anthony, pretty good Russian, and now you’ll also get good practical communication skills ...

          So are you protecting the Dutch embassy in Russia?

          so how ... did you see a lot of drunk bears with balalaikas? laughing
          1. marinier
            marinier 4 November 2015 15: 10 New
            +5
            Hallo, ja k sojaline davno ne parsia Russische banka.
            U Vi sanduni u nas net.
            Ja vroeg oxraniat vnutreni perimetr ambassador NL.
            Rotatia sterk in corps Marinie.
            Medved ne videt balalaika videt.
            Gospoda, s Vashij razreshini, xo4u vnesti prozra4nost.
            Ja ne otnosit sebe k tem homo-sapiens, kto znat RUSSLAND.
            Po balalaika, mandolina, seletka, votka.
            Ja znat gospoda RUSSLAND po Lomonosov, Fonvizin, Suvorov (ne renegat, rEZUN), Pushkin, Lermont, Gagarin, help europa 2 world waar.
            PSs uvazeniem k Vam g-in Dzek-Vorobey, (proshu ne ser4at, eto ymor-xoxma)
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 4 November 2015 17: 05 New
              +3
              Quote: marinier
              Hallo, ja k sojaline davno ne parsia Russische banka.
              U Vi sanduni u nas net.
              Ja vroeg oxraniat vnutreni perimetr ambassador NL.
              Rotatia sterk in corps Marinie.
              Medved ne videt balalaika videt.
              Gospoda, s Vashij razreshini, xo4u vnesti prozra4nost.
              Ja ne otnosit sebe k tem homo-sapiens, kto znat RUSSLAND.
              Po balalaika, mandolina, seletka, votka.
              Ja znat gospoda RUSSLAND po Lomonosov, Fonvizin, Suvorov (ne renegat, rEZUN), Pushkin, Lermont, Gagarin, help europa 2 world waar.
              PSs uvazeniem k Vam g-in Dzek-Vorobey, (proshu ne ser4at, eto ymor-xoxma)


              Anthony everything is fine ... good expression do not worry - it makes sense do not worry so it is not always associated with the bath laughing

              Anthony, if you want to know Russia more deeply, then you will have to try vodka and herring ... don’t worry about bad things, we will quickly teach you ... the main thing is not to go overboard laughing
              1. shvn
                shvn 4 November 2015 22: 02 New
                0
                Do not overdo it with vodka or herring?
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 4 November 2015 22: 34 New
                  +3
                  Quote: shvn
                  Do not overdo it with vodka or herring?


                  herring is not vodka you will not eat much laughing
        2. ydjin
          ydjin 4 November 2015 13: 30 New
          0
          Quote: marinier
          Dbdrij den, sorry ne znat Vash naam.
          Ja imet 4est slujba sekyrit perimetr ambassador in RUSSLAND.
          A v nato eshe ne to gotov delat 4to-bi znat izjan Russische Federation.
          No ja dumat kishka tonka u nato.
          PSNarod proshu ne ser4ati na mni, met kirilica pisat mne 100% kaput.
          Moe mnenij gramotik ja pisat ili net, Vam sudit gospoda, glavnoi ja mogu donest do Vas svoi misli.
          S uvajeniem k Vam gospoda.

          Anthony, or Anton in Russian, do not worry friend! Whoever is good to us will meet good! There is an opportunity on this site to meet sensible people and talk peacefully. God forbid, keep the world in peace!
    3. Ahmed
      Ahmed 4 November 2015 22: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: marinier
      Dobroi vremia sutok, g-in MIXAH!
      Vi razve bit somnenij, kto patron pejsatix ortodoks?
      Na moi vzgliad, vse prosto na bliz-vostok terug keer istinij igrok (v dannij moment ja imet na vid RUSSLAND, eto dla peisatix-ortodox esli ne ponimat) i poetom zapaxlo derzat otvet za sionism.
      V Narod RUSSLAND kovorit "" PIPEC podkralsi nazametni. wassat


      Translator translator to help! http://translit.net/
  • veksha50
    veksha50 4 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Asked ... This is not true, most likely demanded!



    А буквально в предыдущем обзоре сегодня было написано, что Израилю "импонирует, как ВВП досаждает штатам в Сирии"... Что меня, кстати и удивило...

    As there were a nursing mother and a sucking child, they remained in that capacity ...
  • Civil
    Civil 4 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +1
    Why Osprey to Israel?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 4 November 2015 12: 09 New
      +7
      Osprey we plan to use as fast
      tow truck of the wounded from the battlefield. And for the delivery of special forces
      to distant raids.
      Now it is possible to install on heavy air
      pylon machines - automatic interception-shooting systems
      (or off course) MANPADS missiles. You can confidently fly on a small
      height. And the speed of Osprey is noticeably greater than that of a conventional large
      military transport helicopter.
      1. askort154
        askort154 4 November 2015 13: 01 New
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        voyaka uh... А скорость Оспрей заметно больше, чем у обычного крупного
        military transport helicopter.


        Yes it is essential! Especially for the state in size 450km to 75km.!
        Well, okay, but why a tanker?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 4 November 2015 13: 24 New
          +5
          "Особенно для государства размером 450км на 75км.!"///

          Я же написал выше: "для доставки спецназов в далекие рейды".
          Ours had to fly to Uganda, Tunisia, Sudan. Far away however ...
          And not everywhere landing troop carrier can land.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 4 November 2015 14: 30 New
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Ours had to fly to Uganda, Tunisia, Sudan. Far away however ...

            In 1972? If yes, then this is correct; I fully approve and support the reaction of your G. Meyer to Munich-72. And if not in 1972, then the legitimate question is - what did your special forces forget in Uganda? Is Israel's geopolitical interests to protect? So for this, you first need to become a state of geopolitical proportions. And ambition and true scale - things, you see, are different.

            A legal objection - and what are ours then in Syria and not only doing? The answer is visible on the map. A state in one-eighth of the land is, by definition, involved in geopolitics. At least by virtue of its territory. And 22 072 sq. Km - this is on a Russian scale not even a regional level. So, small-town. Hence the bewilderment of the Israeli special forces in Uganda and Sudan.

            Да и какие геополитические амбиции могут быть у страны, которая толстыми намёками внушает миру мысль о своей значимости в мировой закулисе, а сама, тем временем, 70 лет находится фактически на содержании другого государства? Да и "другое государство-то" тоже не ахти какой тигр...
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 4 November 2015 14: 51 New
              +4
              "Да и какие геополитические амбиции могут быть у страны"////
              "А 22 072 кв.км - это по российским масштабам даже не региональный уровень"///

              Our ambitions are only regional. Near East.
              А территория... не всегда эквивалентна "значимости".
              Algeria, for example, is a large country, so what?

              The world is more impressive: 1) economic power (GDP) and 2) military strength.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 4 November 2015 13: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: askort154
          Well, okay, but why a tanker?

          A 450km by 75km state also needs to patrol its borders. They do not have Sushki, which plow the air for 4.5 hours. Kerosene takeoff and landing devours more than half an hour of patrolling. Because you need a refueler.
      2. mvg
        mvg 4 November 2015 14: 33 New
        0
        Sorry to get in. This is not the first time your country has requested these half-planes, despite the accident.
        У них стоимость, как у истребителя 5-ого поколения.. а скорость 500 (вертолетная <200). 24 десантника. На Ваших расстояниях потеря времени 10-20 минут. Может у нас за эти деньги 3-4 Ми-17? good
        И Вы действительно так верите в возможности "Президент'ов-С" и подобных? А если ГСН будет оптическая?
  • Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 4 November 2015 11: 43 New
    +5
    "Независимость" по-израильски-это вечное нытьё о своей обиженности,а под этим упорное продвижение своих интересов,причем чаще всего за счет других. А вообще-то Израиль это офис янкесов в этом регионе,для этого и создавался,этим и занимается! Счаз получу отзывы от израильских офис-менеджеров,гыыыы! negative
    1. marinier
      marinier 4 November 2015 13: 12 New
      +3
      Gaspodin Yr4ik, dobroi vremia sutok!
      Vash berixt ne ostavliat ravnodushi lydej, kotorij zelat preferenc
      RUSSLAND!
      jA s4itat Vashi koment 100% succses iv temu.
      Bolee togo ja s4itat 4to Vi to4no vskrit zloi pomisel pejsat-ortodoks.
      Posmet dat Vam gratis sovet!
      Sobakin gav-gav a Karafan idet. Menshe dumat 4to govorit tvoi sobakin vrag.
      Bolshe dumat o svoi Velikij Land RUSSIA.
      I delat dobro + MOGU4IJ.
      A pejzan prixodit-uxodit, a Velikij narod GIPERBORIJA ZIV nazlo alles zlo
      Ps s uvazeniem hi
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 4 November 2015 19: 15 New
        +3
        marinir. Энтони - Антон, Доброго дня! Приятно видеть иностранца со знанием русского! Как же Ваша сборная по футболу проиграла борьбу за выход на Чемпионат Европы? Мой друг (фанат Вашей сборной) до сих пор "убивается"! Да-да, даже в нашей Великой Степи есть фанаты Оранжевых!
        Антон, вот интересно, Вы знакомы с великим, русским матом (ну это такой ненормативный русский язык, употребляя который можно заменить целый монолог)? И как часто Вы его в посольстве употребляете? Некоторые считают, что именно знание иностранцем этого "языка" означает и знание русского языка. hi
        Антон, здесь можно без "Gaspodin" - как-то у нас непринято употреблять это слово при обращении к собеседнику. Удачи!
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 03: 49 New
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        Quote: marinier
        Ps s uvazeniem

        Funny banter ..originally at least in
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 4 November 2015 12: 20 New
    +3
    Are they given 3, 5 billion bnr of Baku rubles per year for defense simply? belay well, just God's chosen people ...
  • Tor5
    Tor5 4 November 2015 13: 20 New
    +1
    So is this help ?? And not an acquisition for money? Wow... .
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  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 4 November 2015 15: 46 New
    +3
    Israel requested another military assistance from Washington

    If only they would quietly beg. And even this is already disgusting against the background of a bulging chest and clever speeches of our Jewish members of the forum about the acquired and unshakable independence of Israel request Facts are stubborn things.
    Well, all right, they know better there.
    1. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2015 17: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: GSH-18
      If only they would quietly beg. And even this is already disgusting against the background of a bulging chest and clever speeches of our Jewish members of the forum about the acquired and unshakable independence of Israel

      Independence? Independence is a multifaceted thing.
      None of the normal Israelis. will not say. that Israel is 100% independent. YES AND NO INDEPENDENT AND POSSIBLE COUNTRIES TO DO WELL DIRECTLY SUCH ALL. WHAT YOU WANT.
      Israel does not claim to be a world power. (This is what you are trying to stick to us all the time. Well, help from the states. Well, on the one hand, Egypt gets the exact same penny for a penny, and on the other hand, how does your help to Syria (as an ally) differ from what we get from america?
      there really is a difference — we have not lost a single war.
      and so Russia supports its allies. America - of their own. It should be so.
  • Taagad
    Taagad 4 November 2015 16: 16 New
    +2
    It is strange that they chose the F-15, and not the F-35. After all, at a price they are about the same. Already ordered 33 F-35. Apparently, in some aspects, the F-15 has advantages over the F-35.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 4 November 2015 19: 27 New
      +2
      Toren. The F-15 is a proven, mastered, good car, and the F-35 has yet to show itself. So everything is logical. If the novelty does not justify itself, then there will be something to fly on. hi
  • Merchant
    Merchant 4 November 2015 19: 09 New
    -1
    Of course they sell through their people in Congress
  • svp67
    svp67 4 November 2015 11: 03 New
    +9
    Such a normal list ... The main thing is all HIGH-TECH.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 4 November 2015 11: 29 New
      10
      It's all about an adult. wink This is not a small arms, anti-tank or anti-aircraft weapon. A sharp kneading is planned. sad They will probably clean someone. soldier Country 100 per 500 km. There is where aviation can turn around. drinks Even a tanker is needed. So great is the territory that you can’t fly around at one gas station! bully
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 4 November 2015 11: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Region 34
        So great is the territory that you can’t fly around at one gas station!

        А на такой территории для оборонительной войны есть смысл в сверхзвуковых самолётах? А то страна "внезапно" кончится?... laughing Although, as I understand it over the past 50 years, they consider the entire Sinai desert their airspace ...
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 4 November 2015 17: 20 New
          0
          And Israel would have been nice to surround with good air defense from all sides. And according to the law, everything and the Jewish pilots are sad - there is nowhere and especially nowhere to fly over the country;)
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 November 2015 12: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: Region 34
        Even a tanker is needed. So large is the territory that you can’t fly around at one gas station

        Something tells me that they want to either scare Iran or really get to it ...
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 4 November 2015 12: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Region 34
          Even a tanker is needed. So large is the territory that you can’t fly around at one gas station

          Something tells me that they want to either scare Iran or really get to it ...

          That's right ...! Syria is exhausted by the war ... Iran remained in the region the only force capable of withstanding this whole mess in the BV (with Russia, of course)! We need to stick together ... (now the bribery is coming and they are not sparing money .... )
      3. mvg
        mvg 4 November 2015 14: 44 New
        +3
        Им до Ирана далеко. Да, если еще и заходить не "в лоб", как они любят делать, то F-15E придется "нагружать" подвесными баками, что заметно снизит боевую нагрузку. А бетонобойные бомбы весят много. БЕТАБ-500 там (у персов) не обойдешься. А ничего грузоподъемнее, чем Страйк Иглы, у них нет.. Вдруг им все-таки снова "не понравится" прорыв Ирана по атому? Как в Сирии.. Запасаются заранее, потом, когда будет "горячо", могут не дать..
  • Siga77
    Siga77 4 November 2015 11: 03 New
    +2
    Did you smell fried?
    1. marinier
      marinier 4 November 2015 11: 18 New
      0
      Dobroe vremia sutok g-in Siga77.
      Proshu ne ser4at na mny, za to-4to vsjat korektirovat Vash berixt.
      Na moi vzigliad + i vozmezdie toje priblijat k I sralka.
      Vot i zabegali ne4ist-sionist.
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 4 November 2015 12: 02 New
        0
        again 25 giants resurrected ...
  • GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 4 November 2015 11: 03 New
    +6
    Тель-Авив запросил у США «эскадрилью F-15, современный самолёт-заправщик, конвертопланы V-22 Osprey, высокоточное оружие, масштабную финансовую помощь для ракетной программы "Хец" и другую военную поддержку».
    Is that all? Very modest ...
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 4 November 2015 11: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: GYGOLA
      Is that all? Very modest ...

      -What modest you are - the girl tells the guy.
      -Yes modest. You give me, yes I will go.
      Then damn Vova can say, but should you go with the Golan?
      What can Israel answer such a proposal without military assistance. Modestly leave
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 4 November 2015 11: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Tusv
        Then damn Vova can say, but should you go with the Golan?


        But how can they leave the Golan if there is a lot of oil, even though the land belongs to Syria?
        So he flirts with Putin, pals his friends so as not to leave the Golan ...
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 4 November 2015 11: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: hydrox
          And how do they get away from the Golan, if there is a lot of oil?

          About that and speech. We will see. It's about restoring Syrian statehood
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 4 November 2015 16: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: GYGOLA
      Тель-Авив запросил у США «эскадрилью F-15, современный самолёт-заправщик, конвертопланы V-22 Osprey, высокоточное оружие, масштабную финансовую помощь для ракетной программы "Хец" и другую военную поддержку».
      Is that all? Very modest ...

      What is modest? They have a 450x75km country armed to the teeth, universal military service, full of quite good modern tanks, aviation, special forces and nuclear weapons in addition! And now they will receive help for 3,1 lard of American rubles! By the way, all Ukraine owes us so much for state loans, and Ukraine is much larger than Israel in terms of population and area! Well, this is a clear preparation for war, do not you? It is clear that these debts will not be given to the states - at best, they will be restructured. So why not take it while they give it? lol
      1. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 4 November 2015 16: 57 New
        0
        Is that all? Very modest ...
        It's sarcasm.
  • venaya
    venaya 4 November 2015 11: 04 New
    0
    Israel will be the only country in the Middle East

    Special relationships, nothing new. I recall our plane, perhaps there is a connection, it is still difficult to prove.
  • Frigate
    Frigate 4 November 2015 11: 07 New
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    Согласно сообщению, Тель-Авив запросил у США «эскадрилью F-15, современный самолёт-заправщик, конвертопланы V-22 Osprey, высокоточное оружие, масштабную финансовую помощь для ракетной программы "Хец" и другую военную поддержку».

    Well, some ask, they say where did the Jews get money and modern weapons? By the way, the Germans still pay them for the so-called Holocaust.
    Damn, as the Ukrainians beg and demand. Only the scale is different.)))
    Although in Ukraine the same people are Waltzman and the company.)))

    a photo
    1. 34 region
      34 region 4 November 2015 11: 31 New
      +7
      And what? Did the Germans put more Jews than Russians? Or Russian cherished and cherished, and stupidly soaked these?
    2. glavnykarapuz
      glavnykarapuz 4 November 2015 11: 38 New
      13
      Support.
      And more than 15 million Soviet citizens (not counting prisoners of war) destroyed by the Nazis is no longer a Holocaust. Double standarts.
      P.S. I feel, again the minusers from the Azrailev clan will fly. Truth, what do they dislike?
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 4 November 2015 11: 39 New
      +4
      And I like this flag, it reflects the essence of the Kiev regime, and the Solomon star can always be exchanged for a swastika.
  • bad
    bad 4 November 2015 11: 11 New
    +1
    [quoСогласно сообщению, Тель-Авив запросил у США «эскадрилью F-15, современный самолёт-заправщик, конвертопланы V-22 Osprey, высокоточное оружие, масштабную финансовую помощь для ракетной программы "Хец" и другую военную поддержку».te][/quote]неслабо попросили laughing только на мой взгляд похоже не на просьбу,а шантаж "союзника" laughing
  • dojjdik
    dojjdik 4 November 2015 11: 14 New
    +4
    да да на меде у израиля бюджет верстают- эт все они бчелы им такую прибыль приносят; и медицина высокотехнологичная и летчики ассы и даже на бомбы атомные деньги есть-вот они бчелки че делают; а мож все таки "рука руку моет" и американские евреи всегда помогут израильским, нэфть то дормовая у шейхов-грабь не хочу а тут еще и Ирак ликвидировали как государство вот еще б до Ирана добратся; что значит евреи захватили экономику штатов и превратили нигеров индейцев и даже англосаксов в "пакемонов"
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +2
    Tel Aviv requested from USA

    When its people in the financial, political and military circles of the United States, it would be possible without any formalities, but simply by kindred.
  • Hello
    Hello 4 November 2015 11: 19 New
    +2
    Let there be srach fellow
    On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 4 November 2015 11: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Hello
      Let there be srach fellow
      On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

      laughing laughing Да ладно пусть народ "оторвется"..Ну покричим и успокоимся..А все как было, так и останется! drinks
      1. MACCABI-TLV
        MACCABI-TLV 4 November 2015 12: 12 New
        -1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        .Well shout and calm down

        and shout from what? what is the reason?
        1. Hello
          Hello 4 November 2015 12: 30 New
          -2
          Quote: MACCABI-TLV
          and shout from what? what is the reason?

          The damned Zionists tortured, treading Mother Russia with their dirty boots, finally dumped in their Israel, and from there strive to spoil. what How can one not shout to a Russian man here, not only do they drink water from the tap and Christian babies eat, they also take money from the Americans, but for such a betrayal, pooh on them wink
          Meehan, I'm sorry to answer for you, but I think you will say the same hi
          1. Zheka40
            Zheka40 4 November 2015 13: 53 New
            0
            You feel that it smells of fried, that’s it.
          2. MACCABI-TLV
            MACCABI-TLV 4 November 2015 14: 45 New
            +6
            and where the damned Zionists to the Russian Federation? it is about US military assistance.
            1. Hello
              Hello 4 November 2015 14: 54 New
              +3
              Quote: MACCABI-TLV
              and where the damned Zionists to the Russian Federation? it is about US military assistance.

              Zionists always fellow drinks
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 03: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: Hello
                Zionists always

                In, in - world backstage .. laughing
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 03: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: MACCABI-TLV
          and shout from what? what is the reason?

          And we want an orem, but what ?? tongue
    2. Frigate
      Frigate 4 November 2015 11: 28 New
      10
      Quote: Hello

      On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

      Well, yes, as usual, you have nothing to do with it. I have already imagined how Americans belittle you from taking money from them. )))))
      1. Hello
        Hello 4 November 2015 11: 39 New
        +5
        Quote: Frigate
        Well, yes, as usual, you have nothing to do with it. I have already imagined how Americans belittle you from taking money from them. )))))

        Not money but armament. I remember one big country also supplies weapons for free, for example, no one is crying in Syria. hi
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 4 November 2015 11: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Hello

          Not money but armament. I remember one big country also supplies weapons for free, for example, no one is crying in Syria. hi


          Well, not money. That is, these weapons took their air and does not cost anything.

          At the expense of Syria, there is not everything as free as you think. And this is for the period of the war, and you have constant help. )
          1. Hello
            Hello 4 November 2015 11: 58 New
            -1
            Quote: Frigate
            At the expense of Syria, there is not everything as free as you think.)

            So Assad paid? What a news bully
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 4 November 2015 12: 08 New
              +6
              Quote: Hello
              So Assad paid? What a news


              well, so we probably don’t pay for the tartus .. laughing
              1. MACCABI-TLV
                MACCABI-TLV 4 November 2015 14: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: vorobey
                well, so we probably don’t pay for the Tartus in revenge

                And pay for Eilat and the Dead Sea wink
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 4 November 2015 15: 16 New
                  +4
                  Quote: MACCABI-TLV
                  Dead sea pay


                  Are we also dead sea? repeat
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 03: 56 New
                    +2
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Are we also dead sea?

                    Yeah .. and the Leaning Tower of Pisa was bent .. laughing
            2. Frigate
              Frigate 4 November 2015 12: 16 New
              +5
              Quote: Hello
              Quote: Frigate
              At the expense of Syria, there is not everything as free as you think.)

              So Assad paid? What a news bully

              Now, of course, no. For Syria was attacked and the economy was hit hard. Payment can be made in another way. For example, the preferences of Russian business in the post-war device.
        2. ydjin
          ydjin 4 November 2015 11: 58 New
          +3
          Quote: ydjin
          Quote: Frigate
          Quote: Hello

          On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

          Well, yes, as usual, you have nothing to do with it. I have already imagined how Americans belittle you from taking money from them. )))))

          Like we didn’t ask, they themselves proposed! And we are not at all guilty !? request

          Dear Hello, but all the same, is Israel a negotiable country or not? After all, confrontation is a road to nowhere. Maybe it’s time for the common good to come to an agreement, return to the borders according to the UN resolution of 1947, Arabs respect and respect you, Arabs crush their radicals with your and our help. You give them investments and help in the economy. Further, would the two fraternal peoples come together despite the difference in religions? After all, the Jewish and Arab people are from the same root! Yeah, I'm definitely a science fiction writer! lol
          1. Hello
            Hello 4 November 2015 12: 09 New
            -1
            Quote: ydjin
            Dear Hello, but all the same, is Israel a negotiable country or not?

            I think yes.
            Quote: ydjin
            After all, confrontation is a road to nowhere. Maybe it’s time for the common good to come to an agreement, return to the borders according to UN resolution 1947,

            Did the Arabs agree with this resolution?
            Quote: ydjin
            Arabs respect and respect for you, Arabs crush their radicals with your and our help

            In the Middle East, concessions are a manifestation of weakness, so instead of a peace of friendship, chewing gums will crush us instead of radicals.
            Quote: ydjin
            You give them investments and help in the economy.

            They are already invested in them by the UN and Europe and the USA, there’s no sense, only 4 million refugees have already become. Apparently they are investing in refugees.
            1. Wheel
              Wheel 4 November 2015 23: 06 New
              +1
              Quote: Hello
              . Apparently investing in refugees.

              Yeah, all this shobla directly rushed to Europa ...
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 03: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Hello
              I think yes.

              Interestingly, and non-negotiable Semites e?
        3. Rrrj
          Rrrj 4 November 2015 14: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Hello
          I remember one big country also supplies weapons for free, for example, no one is crying in Syria

          Yeah - if only.
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 4 November 2015 11: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: Hello
      Let there be srach


      Come on... laughing Hi... hi

      It’s not worth it to react so painfully ... USA helps Ukraine a lot, for example, are you worse? laughing True, different Ukrainians will receive different sizes 300Lyam only and you will receive 3 Lard .. True, under Ukraine and the IMF they have bent ... so you have something to work on laughing
      1. Hello
        Hello 4 November 2015 11: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: vorobey
        C'mon ... hi ...

        My regards hi
        Quote: vorobey
        It’s not worth it to react so painfully ... USA helps Ukraine a lot, for example, are you worse? True, different Ukrainians will receive different sizes 300Lyam only and you will receive 3 Lard .. True, under Ukraine and the IMF they have bent ... so you have something to work on

        To whom and what does the United States supply the United States. If seriously it seems to me that the United States is afraid of losing influence on Israel, that’s why it is tied to itself with military aid. The Chinese will be very happy. wink
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 November 2015 12: 11 New
          +6
          Quote: Hello
          Seriously, it seems to me that the United States is afraid of losing influence on Israel, and therefore it is tied to itself by military assistance.


          That's right ... given the fact that Israel can slightly change the vector of politics and then the United States will lose major players in the Middle East ... Qatar and Saudis are a wallet, but Israel is that golden shekel that can always be used in the game ... I Shiite Iran mean ..
        2. yushch
          yushch 4 November 2015 12: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: Hello
          Quote: vorobey
          C'mon ... hi ...

          My regards hi
          Quote: vorobey
          It’s not worth it to react so painfully ... USA helps Ukraine a lot, for example, are you worse? True, different Ukrainians will receive different sizes 300Lyam only and you will receive 3 Lard .. True, under Ukraine and the IMF they have bent ... so you have something to work on

          To whom and what does the United States supply the United States. If seriously it seems to me that the United States is afraid of losing influence on Israel, that’s why it is tied to itself with military aid. The Chinese will be very happy. wink


          Вы конечно правы,но ключевой слово в вашем посте-"как нибудь".Не сомневаюсь,что Израиль может сам выпускать высокотехнологичное вооружение которое он просит у США.Но если он начнет выпускать это все сам,то ресурсы нужные для этого будут изыматься из других статей госрасходов-образование,медицина,социалка.И тот уровень жизни,которым Вы так гордитесь уже не будет поводом для гордости.
          1. Hello
            Hello 4 November 2015 12: 40 New
            +5
            Quote: yushch
            Вы конечно правы,но ключевой слово в вашем посте-"как нибудь".Не сомневаюсь,что Израиль может сам выпускать высокотехнологичное вооружение которое он просит у США.Но если он начнет выпускать это все сам,то ресурсы нужные для этого будут изыматься из других статей госрасходов-образование,медицина,социалка.И тот уровень жизни,которым Вы так гордитесь уже не будет поводом для гордости.

            Ой я вас умоляю кто сказал что все это будет выпускаться в Израиле,вот вы меня спросите с чего Китай так активно вкладывается в Израиль?Неужели за красивые глаза? А я вам отвечу Китай очень интересуется Израилем,а точнее военными и околовоенными разработками. И будет в Израиле вместо F 16 какой нибудь "Сунь 2",но с израильской начинкой.
    4. ydjin
      ydjin 4 November 2015 11: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: Frigate
      Quote: Hello

      On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

      Well, yes, as usual, you have nothing to do with it. I have already imagined how Americans belittle you from taking money from them. )))))

      Like we didn’t ask, they themselves proposed! And we are not at all guilty !? request
      1. Frigate
        Frigate 4 November 2015 13: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: ydjin

        Like we didn’t ask, they themselves proposed! And we are not at all guilty !? request

        Well, yes, but Netanyahu made an appointment with Obama to play checkers.))))

        Barack Obama also got acquainted with the list, who in a few days will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during the latter’s visit to the White House.
        1. Orakul2000
          Orakul2000 4 November 2015 21: 15 New
          +4
          Why checkers, for Obamba this is too wise a game, most likely they will be cut into chapapa !!!
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 04: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: ydjin
        Like we

        Taki Tipo - opo wassat
    5. 34 region
      34 region 4 November 2015 11: 47 New
      +2
      And will help be free? That is a gift. Or will you have to? If you pay, then where does Zin come from?
    6. svp67
      svp67 4 November 2015 12: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Hello
      On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

      Они то "подписались" на сумму помощи, нас же интересует сам список.
    7. padded jacket
      padded jacket 4 November 2015 13: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Hello
      Let there be srach

      То есть израильтяне могут обсуждать и делать "бяки" в темах про Россию а нам россиянам обсуждать - Израиль нельзя belay
      Articles about Israel - a taboo mean?
      Is that what you yourself decided or someone suggested? smile
      1. Hello
        Hello 4 November 2015 13: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        То есть израильтяне могут обсуждать и делать "бяки" в темах про Россию а нам россиянам обсуждать - Израиль нельзя
        Articles about Israel - a taboo mean?
        Is that what you yourself decided or someone suggested?

        Oh, and a quilted jacket, what is your developed fantasy, however. laughing I look looking for hidden meaning where it does not exist. You never learned to politely communicate, sorry. We didn’t drink at the burdeshaft and didn’t go on the attack, so poke your mom. wink
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 4 November 2015 13: 46 New
          -1
          Quote: Hello
          You and I didn’t drink on the burdeshaft and didn’t go on the attack, so poke your mom

          Don’t tell me, okay?
          Quote: Hello
          Oh, and a quilted jacket, what is your developed fantasy however

          You have fantasies and I say everything as it is.
          1. Hello
            Hello 4 November 2015 14: 56 New
            0
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Don’t tell me, okay?

            Quote: quilted jacket
            You have fantasies and I say everything as it is.

            A difficult case, then go to an emergency, write letters with a small underline. hi
        2. ydjin
          ydjin 4 November 2015 14: 33 New
          +1
          Padded jacket? In quilted jackets went the Army defeated fascism! Multinational army, including Jews in quilted jackets! I do not divide the war into nations, all the people of our multinational Motherland fought and died! PS And a cotton sweatshirt, this thing! Warm up soul and body more than once!
        3. Boris Zidkov
          Boris Zidkov 4 November 2015 16: 22 New
          -1
          And why do some Zionists poke everyone in a row. And then they justify themselves by saying that there is no pronoun in Hebrew. You.
          1. Hello
            Hello 4 November 2015 16: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: Boris Zidkov
            there is no pronoun in Hebrew. You.

            There is no appeal to you in Hebrew, but we kind of communicate here not in Hebrew wink
            1. Boris Zidkov
              Boris Zidkov 4 November 2015 16: 58 New
              0
              Yes, they communicate in Russian and poke. And when they are told to poke, they say we are so used to it, we can.
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 4 November 2015 16: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Hello
      Let there be srach fellow
      On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

      Well, yes, there is an agreement between Israel and Egypt. Try the states of Egypt, respectively, do not dump! They will dry all brains lol That the truth is true.
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 4 November 2015 11: 21 New
    +6
    Что-то наши израильские читатели молчат, не вернулись наверное с демонстрации в честь праздника "Народного единства" в России.
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 4 November 2015 11: 47 New
      +2
      Да-а-а,скучновато без "Профессора"..!
      А так,мне кажется,что на фоне "электронного голода" в нашем ВПК Израильские друзья сейчас,конечно,поделятся новыми секретами во-время..!
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 09: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Something our Israeli readers

        Да-а-а,скучновато без "Профессора"..!

        Не первый раз замечаю.. что скучно без "сионистов" laughing
        But as they appear - the whole branch is like a red stop signal .. such a popular lyuboff wassat
  • ydjin
    ydjin 4 November 2015 11: 35 New
    +1
    "Израилю нужна помощь" лейт мотив. Так запросил или потребовал? laughing
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 4 November 2015 11: 38 New
    +2
    Таки отсыпте бедному евгею немного "оспреёв". :))
  • LPD17
    LPD17 4 November 2015 11: 42 New
    +1
    But please tell me if the Russian army needs Osprey-type convertiplane systems?
    And if so, for what purpose / terms of reference? And based, in particular, on offshore platforms, such as Kuzi ??
    Do not throw stones too hard ...
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 4 November 2015 11: 48 New
      +2
      Do not throw stones too hard ...


      Nnna to you! smile

      Haha, these envelopes did not bite - they sucks, they fly, how many states operate them and the accident rate is high! Sophisticated design, many moving parts. Futuristic, beautiful - yes. But fly sucks.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 4 November 2015 12: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: LPD17
      But please tell me if the Russian army needs Osprey-type convertiplane systems?

      The functions are the same as our Mi-8, it flies more than twice as fast and one and a half times further, only reliability is 2 times lower. Question - Do we need delivery speed? There are developments, but so far the military department considers it is not necessary yet
  • ilija93
    ilija93 4 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +1
    Chosen people, asking for an exclusive nation?
    Previously, God was asked, as well as military support, against Pharaoh, a high-tech for the destruction of the Jericho walls, Joshua was even provided with climate control, the sun at its zenith was stopped!
    And now, a bunch of some non-kosher technologies? good
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2015 11: 47 New
    +6
    Give - take it. Who would refuse? In the hands of the IDF, this weapon is very deadly, unlike the Sauddites and other Arabs. It is funny that when buying this weapon, the Saudis and Qatar PAY for this help to Israel. How complicated everything is there. But the birth rate at the height of the Islamists. 5 boys under 16 for one 40-year-old man. So what can you expect from this gang of street children? No education goes without education, without life experience, without the need to earn a living. Israel, of course, will not be lost without the help of a mattress, but using it is better!
  • RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 4 November 2015 11: 52 New
    +9
    Quote: Hello
    Let there be srach fellow
    On the topic, the United States itself signed up for this military assistance, by the way, not only to us but also to Egypt.

    Well, as they say, I found a sucker - catch haha. In general, the Jews are great. So you need to be able to cut the stingy Germans, the fisted Americans.
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 4 November 2015 12: 07 New
    +1
    Очень интересная полемика. Но думаю, что "избранные" у "исключительных" запросили/затребовали, то и получат.
  • Maksus
    Maksus 4 November 2015 12: 54 New
    +1
    And who will answer me, for what **** Osprey Israel? The machine is complex, large, quite problematic. What is his superiority over the same SeaStalion or our MI-26?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 4 November 2015 13: 19 New
      0
      Osprey WAS problematic. They were brought to mind for many years.
      And in recent years, the number of accidents they have does not exceed the accident
      conventional helicopters.
      And the advantage is speed.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 4 November 2015 13: 34 New
        +1
        OK, accepted. And the dimensions and maintenance issues, it will have to be redone by caponiers, retraining technicians, probably other fuel and lubricants. Maybe it was better to get Chinukov?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 4 November 2015 16: 19 New
          0
          There was a difficult choice. But both: both Osprey and Chinook - Boeing.
          Так что пострадавший тут- Sikorsky CH-53 "Ясур" (я на них даже успел покататься
          in young age). Boeing is pushing Osprey hard, so apart from the American
          no one is using the marines yet - a bird too unusual. Israel will
          first foreign customer. And in the sense of service - yes, you are right - so many types are a headache for the Air Force.
  • shat56
    shat56 4 November 2015 13: 11 New
    +4
    I read the comments of the Russians and I can’t understand what their concern is with Israel’s relations with the United States, Israel is not interested in Russian weapons. Israel does not participate in sanctions against Russia; it trades with Russia. There is even a mutual understanding on Syria. So what do you Russians not like? What are you not happy with? Could it be that Israel does not use Russian weapons? Instead of attacks on Israel-US relations, it would be prudent to tackle what is happening in Russia. By cutting pensions, food prices, Russian health care, education and much more than others.
    1. Zheka40
      Zheka40 4 November 2015 13: 58 New
      -6
      Piss, the Golan will be beaten off. Invaders.
      1. Hello
        Hello 4 November 2015 14: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Zheka40
        Piss, the Golan will be beaten off. Invaders.

        Do you suffer? wink
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 4 November 2015 14: 06 New
      0
      Quote: shat56
      So what do you Russians not like? What are you not happy with? Could it be that Israel does not use Russian weapons?

      So do not use it. Your developer of the Galil assault rifle completely licked him from the very beginning with the Kalashnikov assault rifle. Jews simply stole dynamic and active armor systems when they moved to Israel.
      But the relations between Israel and the United States always have the Russians. You said that you are an independent, independent state. And ask for free help from the United States. Here it is your way of prosperity LOAN without interest. And there will be this handout, there will be no prosperity, and Israel soon. This is interesting.
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 4 November 2015 14: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: shat56
      Instead of attacks on Israel-US relations, it would be prudent to tackle what is happening in Russia. By cutting pensions, food prices, Russian health care, education and much more than others.


      it would not be entirely correct in this article to discuss cuts in pensions or milk prices ...

      Quote: shat56
      I read the comments of the Russians


      with the same success I read the comments of some Israelis and I think what you care about our relations with Assad ...
    4. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 4 November 2015 17: 35 New
      +1
      As I understand it, you are today a professor and atalef, so to speak? The fact is that we would not have absolutely nothing to do with Israel if the aforementioned colleagues with the Israeli flag did not constantly incarnate the entire community upon themselves, criticizing Russia, teaching us lives and telling about the inconceivable coolness of Israel and its obvious advantages over by us, raw. Hence the normal response is to agitate on everything with the star of David. And so we love Israel :) Although a strange love ...
  • Krut
    Krut 4 November 2015 13: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: Frigate
    Quote: Hello

    Not money but armament. I remember one big country also supplies weapons for free, for example, no one is crying in Syria. hi


    Well, not money. That is, these weapons took their air and does not cost anything.

    At the expense of Syria, there is not everything as free as you think. And this is for the period of the war, and you have constant help. )

    Over $ 2000 Billion Forgiven since 140 [audio]




    1. Cuba - $ 31,7 billion

    According to experts, we would never have received this debt back anyway. And so they threw the "carrot" and strengthened their positions near the United States.

    2. Iraq - $ 21,5 billion

    The debt was written off twice - $ 9,5 billion (from $ 10,5) in 2004 and $ 12 billion (from $ 12,9) in 2008. The second time it was a new debt, on loans received after the forgiveness of the previous debt in 2004.

    3. African countries - more than $ 20 billion

    Decommissioned “in bulk” in the period after the 2008 year in the manner of “fraternal assistance”.

    4. Mongolia - $ 11,1 billion

    Decommissioned in 2003 year. Mongolia, however, immediately returned the remaining $ 300 million of debt.

    5. Afghanistan - $ 11 billion

    Debts for the supply of Soviet military equipment, written off after 2006 year.

    6. North Korea - $ 10 billion

    One of the latest "gifts", after 2012 year. Not all were written off, $ 1 billion of debt for the DPRK still remained.

    7. Syria - $ 9,8 billion

    Written off in 2005 year (of $ 13,4 billion of debt). In exchange, a number of agreements were signed in the field of construction, oil and gas.

    8. Vietnam - $ 9,53 billion

    The first of the debts “forgiven” to foreign countries already in “Putin's” time was in 2000. In total, Vietnamese debt at that time amounted to $ 11,03 billion, the balance should be paid by 2022. True, not directly, but through investments in joint projects with Russia in Vietnam.

    9. Ethiopia - about $ 6 billion

    In 2001, $ 4,8 billion of $ 6 billion of debt was written off, four years later - another $ 1,1 billion, that is, almost everything.

    10. Algeria - $ 4,7 billion

    The write-off occurred in 2006-2007. In exchange, the country undertook to purchase from us industrial products for this or a larger amount.

    In recent years - in 2012-2014 - in addition to North Korea and Cuba, Kyrgyzstan’s debt of $ 599 million has been written off (after which the country was about to join the Customs Union) and now $ 865 million to Uzbekistan.

    In total, since the 2000 of the year Russia has forgiven its partners more than $ 140 billion.
    1. Frigate
      Frigate 4 November 2015 13: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Krut

      In total, since the 2000 of the year Russia has forgiven its partners more than $ 140 billion.

      In this case, it is not a matter of who gave how much, but the fact that Israel itself is not capable of being among the advanced countries without outside help, although it pretty much tries to suggest the opposite to everyone.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 4 November 2015 13: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Frigate
        and the fact that Israel itself without outside help is not able to be among the advanced countries

        На это указывает в частности и снижение экспорта вооружения Израилем так как "производимые" им поделки не хочет уже покупать почти никто:
        Defense chiefs: "Israel's defense industry in crisis"
        The country's defense industry is experiencing a pronounced crisis: in 2012, defense exports amounted to $ 7,5 billion, a year later it fell to 6,5 billion, in 2014 amounted to 5,5 billion, and in 2015 it will reach only 4-4,5 billion dollars.
        http://newsru.co.il/finance/23oct2015/oboron304.html
        Поэтому Израилю и приходится "выклянчивать" деньги из США и других стран в принципе Израиль умеет жить только исключительно за чужой счёт.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 4 November 2015 13: 15 New
    +4
    Why are you attacking the Jews? These tiltrotopes were given to you. In fairness: Israel is perhaps the only one of the exceptional friends who does not suffer from Russophobia.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 4 November 2015 13: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer 33
      In fairness: Israel is perhaps the only one of the exceptional friends who does not suffer from Russophobia.

      Where did you get this from?
      In Israel, one of the largest percent of Russophobes in the world:
      Anti-Russian sentiment is also strong in Israel (74%), Japan (73%), Germany (70%) and France (70%).
      http://www.newsru.com/world/06aug2015/ratings.html
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 4 November 2015 16: 03 New
        +1
        Oh come on you. These figures are more like the number of people who simply do not care, the politically-minded inhabitants.
    2. Rrrj
      Rrrj 4 November 2015 14: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer 33
      In fairness: Israel is perhaps the only one of the exceptional friends who does not suffer from Russophobia.

      Wahahah - here it is worth reading comments ... - the truth is that everyone is already good ...
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 4 November 2015 16: 09 New
        +2
        I agree! Interlocutors they are not important laughing They will chop everything up, I often argue with them. But, not Russophobia, no.
  • Megatron
    Megatron 4 November 2015 13: 35 New
    +1
    And after that, the blue flags loudly yell that they are independent of pndos.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 4 November 2015 13: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: Megatron
      And after that, the blue flags loudly yell that they are independent of pndos.

      Да Израиль только "милостью" США а так же некоторых других стран и существует да и то даже с помощью всех технологически развитых стран Запада он фактически "банкрот" не способный не на что самостоятельно:
      Head of Military Intelligence: Iran reduces technological backlog
      The head of Israeli military intelligence, AMAN, General Herzi Halevi, claims that Israel and Iran are currently in a state of technological warfare - and the Islamic Republic is successfully closing the gap.
      “Today we have an advantage,” the general says. “But Iran is reducing the distance between us. Since 1979, Iran has changed a lot - the number of universities and students in this country has increased 20 times. In Israel, during this time, it has increased only by 3,5 times. "
      Halevi noted that mathematics, physics, technical and natural sciences occupy a special place in Iranian universities.
      http://9tv.co.il/news/2015/11/01
      /216243.html
  • Krut
    Krut 4 November 2015 13: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Frigate
    Quote: Krut

    In total, since the 2000 of the year Russia has forgiven its partners more than $ 140 billion.

    In this case, it is not a matter of who gave how much, but the fact that Israel itself is not capable of being among the advanced countries without outside help, although it pretty much tries to suggest the opposite to everyone.

    А Израиль вовсе не претендует на "быть в числе передовых стран" он уже давно там.И доказывать это ему не надо.А "безвозмездная помощь" к этому никогого отношения не имеет.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 November 2015 21: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Krut
      А Израиль вовсе не претендует на "быть в числе передовых стран" он уже давно там.И доказывать это ему не надо



      It should be more modest a gracious sovereign .. for a caravan can turn around ... you know how caravans turn around? lol
  • sisa29
    sisa29 4 November 2015 13: 40 New
    +9
    It’s good to argue that some are exceptional and others are God's chosen ones and we are the only patriots of that country that one is against all the world's villains! Reasoning yes, well until you feel on yourself! My wife’s cancer can’t be cured in Russia, so in 2014 the USA opened and launched the release of the medicine Kertrude, a fundamentally new treatment principle and a cure! Immediately, Israel and Germany began to treat with a very high percentage of recovery. Naturally, we do not certify it. And why is it very expensive, but it will be necessary to give someone at preferential prices or even free of charge. So three droppers cost about $ 30. In order not to travel every month I wanted to bring us here and do it. Israil returns 000 percent from this amount at the airport, but do you think it helps in such an expensive treatment? We suggested that Sheremetyevo pay customs tax at customs at 15 percent of the cost of the purchased medicine, which costs over 20 thousand dollars. So you start thinking who the enemy is and who is the friend.
    Respectfully !
    former patriot and now just a citizen of this most highly spiritual country!
    1. Frigate
      Frigate 4 November 2015 13: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: sisa29
      It’s good to argue that some are exceptional and others are God's chosen ones and we are the only patriots of that country that one is against all the world's villains!
      Respectfully !
      former patriot and now just a citizen of this most highly spiritual country!


      This is all so, only until order has been put in place in Russia. Previously, there was the USSR-social state, but now it’s beneficial for someone that there would be a mess in Russia, as well as in the post of Soviet countries. For example, Israel is not bad at this too.
      It is clear that you are placed in such conditions that there is nowhere to go, but to be a patriot of your homeland and your state are different concepts.
      I sincerely wish your wife a speedy recovery.
      1. sisa29
        sisa29 4 November 2015 14: 04 New
        +7
        Thank you, I completely agree that being a patriot of the homeland and the state are two different things
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 4 November 2015 14: 17 New
      +5
      Get well to your wife, don't lose heart.
      1. sisa29
        sisa29 4 November 2015 14: 26 New
        +1
        Thank you very much
        1. sisa29
          sisa29 4 November 2015 19: 59 New
          +8
          Просто вдумайтесть , хочется попытатся вылечится/ выжить а государство " россия" за это желание берет с тебя налог! Не помогает, не оплачивает , ничего не делает а берет 20 процентов с лекарств купленных на последние деньги. Да будь проклято это циничное государство! А Родину я люблю!
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 4 November 2015 21: 45 New
            +6
            You know, this disease does not parse either age, gender, or social status. Believe in recovery, and you and your wife. Do not despair, continue to fight, no matter what.
  • ydjin
    ydjin 4 November 2015 13: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Hello
    Quote: ydjin
    Dear Hello, but all the same, is Israel a negotiable country or not?

    I think yes.
    Quote: ydjin
    After all, confrontation is a road to nowhere. Maybe it’s time for the common good to come to an agreement, return to the borders according to UN resolution 1947,

    Did the Arabs agree with this resolution?
    Quote: ydjin
    Arabs respect and respect for you, Arabs crush their radicals with your and our help

    In the Middle East, concessions are a manifestation of weakness, so instead of a peace of friendship, chewing gums will crush us instead of radicals.
    Quote: ydjin
    You give them investments and help in the economy.

    They are already invested in them by the UN and Europe and the USA, there’s no sense, only 4 million refugees have already become. Apparently they are investing in refugees.

    And if Russia will be the guarantor of your agreements? After all, Israel is not so much an enemy to us, as Vladimir Vysotsky sang, there our people are a quarter! And the United States, as I understand it, is investing in fomenting war at your doorstep. They extinguish the fire by adding kerosene, and they’ll deliver to you like fire extinguishers! It's time to throw the blinkers out of my eyes, the world has changed. The time has come for negotiations! Our World is too fragile, it can perish. hi
    1. Hello
      Hello 4 November 2015 15: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: ydjin
      And if Russia will be the guarantor of your agreements?

      Does Russia need it?
      Quote: ydjin
      After all, Israel is not so much an enemy to us, as Vladimir Vysotsky sang, there our people are a quarter!

      Not an enemy, but not an ally. We have mutually beneficial cooperation with you mainly.
      Quote: ydjin
      And the United States, as I understand it, is investing in fomenting war at your doorstep.

      The United States is engaged in whitewashing its s ... children, and you have such things. Maybe China will soon join.
      Quote: ydjin
      It's time to throw the blinders out of my eyes, the world has changed

      What has he changed, let me ask? Respect and love for one's neighbor began to play more power than a big club?
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 4 November 2015 15: 50 New
        +4
        Russia already has a large club (Yao), a small club (tactical nuclear weapons) of the tactical type, any 152mm howitzer can do this. ISKANDER at 500 km as stated, Caliber 15000 km, struck. Or maybe 2500? Throughout history, Russia did not destroy the Indians! States, brag! Russia, only defended! Starting from the campaigns of the Mongols-Teutons-Poles-French-Germans
        , there are still Americans pulled themselves up! I don’t care, the Kalashnikov assault rifle did not forget your hands! If that is what will be for you OGO!
        1. Hello
          Hello 4 November 2015 19: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: ydjin
          Russia already has a large club (Yao), a small club (tactical nuclear weapons) of the tactical type, any 152mm howitzer can do this. ISKANDER at 500 km as stated, Caliber 15000 km, struck. Or maybe 2500? Throughout history, Russia did not destroy the Indians! States, brag! Russia, only defended! Starting from the campaigns of the Mongols-Teutons-Poles-French-Germans
          , there are still Americans pulled themselves up! I don’t care, the Kalashnikov assault rifle did not forget your hands! If that is what will be for you OGO!

          Hmm ... something I didn’t understand your koment belay. Apparently you need a drink, but the wife will not allow tomorrow a working day. Could you translate it into a more understandable one, thanks. wink
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        4. Ahmed
          Ahmed 5 November 2015 02: 03 New
          +4
          Quote: ydjin
          If that is what will be for you OGO!


          Relative?
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 02: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Ahmed
            Relative?

            If you joke like that, we'll hit you there! good laughing
            1. Hello
              Hello 5 November 2015 08: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              If you joke like that, we'll hit you there

              You are not here wassat
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 09: 43 New
                +2
                Quote: Hello
                You are not here

                I'm here, I'm there, I'm always ... laughing
                Фильм "ДМБ"- рекомендую если не смотрел, отменный юмор.
  • Zheka40
    Zheka40 4 November 2015 13: 45 New
    +1
    shaptmos [RU]

    when when Palestinian civilians die as a result of the actions of the Israeli military, these are pranks, and if someone throws a stone at an Israeli, they will punish severely. throw Jews into the sea, oh throw.
  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 4 November 2015 14: 01 New
    +7
    Переводы на русский часто несколько не точны. "Топливозаправщик", естественно, не один и не два... В настоящей, ивритоязычной прессе Израиля, вышеприведённое, (в т.ч. ускорение поставок 75 ед. ф35"Адир") дополняется, что это лишь часть израильских потребностей на период 2018-2028 годы. Многое-"за кадром"... В свою очередь, Израиль продолжит делиться с США своими высокотехнологичными разработками в различных областях-НИОКР в Израиле гораздо эффективней по срокам и финансированию, тем более что ВПК обеих стран часто трудноразличимы даже юридически, не говоря уже о "фактах на местности", например один из вице-президентов Локхида,- боевой генерал израильских ВВС...Но военные игрушки в ответ на иранскую сделку, возможно не главное что будет положено Израилем на стол уходящей американской Администрации в связи с обрушением Ближнего Востока, и это несравненно важней, сообщают израильские СМИ...
    1. Rrrj
      Rrrj 4 November 2015 14: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: Oleg7700
      But military toys in response to the Iranian deal may not be the main thing that Israel will put on the table of the outgoing US Administration in connection with the collapse of the Middle East, and this is incomparably more important, Israeli media report ...

      And who destroyed this east?
    2. ydjin
      ydjin 4 November 2015 15: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Urri
      Давайте называть вещи своими именами. Не "запросил военную помощь", а "затребовал дань" с разномастных тупых гоев.

      How stupid you are, a more terrible reality has come! Radical Islamic extremists! Or will you catch a fish in troubled waters? The threat is for everyone! The world is in danger, your world, you are closer to the burning center!
  • Urri
    Urri 4 November 2015 14: 22 New
    0
    Давайте называть вещи своими именами. Не "запросил военную помощь", а "затребовал дань" с разномастных тупых гоев.
    1. Ahmed
      Ahmed 5 November 2015 01: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Urri
      Давайте называть вещи своими именами. Не "запросил военную помощь", а "затребовал дань" с разномастных тупых гоев.

      Pavilion! wassat Pay, subhuman! wassat wassat Matzo and blood of babies! wassat wassat wassat
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  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 4 November 2015 14: 26 New
    +1
    Тема всегда популярная..."обменялись мнениями" .. bully But the essence of everything remained unsolved! hi
  • Sars
    Sars 4 November 2015 15: 04 New
    0
    Although Obamych himself is a Jew, Netanyahu does not like something (apparently their knees are different). I think the Israelis will get circumcised.
    1. Hello
      Hello 4 November 2015 15: 14 New
      +7
      Quote: SarS
      Obamych, though a Jew himself

      wassat
      Quote: SarS
      apparently their knees are different

      One is black, the other is white
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 4 November 2015 15: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Hello
        Quote: SarS
        Obamych, though a Jew himself

        wassat
        Quote: SarS
        apparently their knees are different

        One is black, the other is white

        laughing laughing bully Well okay ..))))
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 4 November 2015 15: 36 New
        0
        Hello. He has a Jewish mother. Well, somewhere there in three thousand generations
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 4 November 2015 16: 20 New
      +2
      Chorus fool around guys! stop I am now a little out of the chair, did not fall out when neighing laughing
      Obamych Jew laughing
      Barack Hussein is a Jew laughing good
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 5 November 2015 09: 03 New
        -1
        Look at his mom and you will laugh more than I cry. what
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 4 November 2015 21: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      Although Obamych himself is a Jew, Netanyahu does not like something (apparently their knees are different). I think the Israelis will get circumcised.


      I shied away not only from the commentary, but also from how the people of Israel began to disown Obamych .... laughing
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 4 November 2015 22: 12 New
        +2
        And when in Israel Obama was praised? The most disastrous president in the history of America.
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 4 November 2015 15: 17 New
    -1
    Vysotsky himself was from their tribe. And the people there have long been not ours. As someone wrote here, Russia is the country of origin. Next time they will flee to Canada, Australia. This is such a people.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 November 2015 03: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Boris Zidkov
      Vysotsky himself was from their tribe.

      Would you not deceive the blessed memory of Vysotsky with your dirty tongue .. am
  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 4 November 2015 15: 47 New
    +6
    Quote: SarS
    Although Obamych himself is a Jew, Netanyahu does not like something (apparently their knees are different). I think the Israelis will get circumcised.

    Возможно дело в разном жизненном опыте. Когда молодой офицер Саерет Маткаль (спецназа Генштаба) Натаньяху тащил из Латакии захваченных сирийских генералов для обмена на нескольких пленных израильских пилотов, Обама изучал "марксизм по американски" и покуривал вещества... А потом Натаньяху буквально замочил в сортире захваченного террами самолёта их главаря и был уволен из рядов в чине капитана. За излишнюю жестокость. Сейчас это звучит нелепо...
  • marinier
    marinier 4 November 2015 15: 57 New
    +1
    Dobroe vremia sutok gospoda.
    Delo ne raznij zizen opit.Delo vo vzaimootnashenij va-ssal, syze-ren (kto vassal en syzeren dumay, tolkovat niet nuzda. K stati, ne odin ja dumat tak pro netanjashka.Dialog obama-sarkozi o natanjaba .

    PSproshu proshenij gospoda, za gramatik (Moi proshenij ne rasprostraniat, na pala4 Sabra en Shatila).
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 4 November 2015 18: 37 New
      +2
      Не стоит извинений,Энтони! А бойню в Сабра и Шатила помню с детства - освещалась подробно по всем трём Советским телеканалам. С тех пор и повелось: прилагательному "израильская" стало соответствовать существительное "военщина". P.S. А,судя по Вашим комментам относительно Peisat-Orthodox,болельщиком амстердамского "Аякса" вы точно не являетесь. Рискну предположить:PSV или "Фейеноорд"? hi
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  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 4 November 2015 16: 29 New
    +1
    [media = https: //www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/israel/2015-11-03/israel-can-say-
    no? cid = soc-tw-rdr] Times change ...
  • mvg
    mvg 4 November 2015 16: 53 New
    +1
    А зачем Вы, все-таки, в шестидневной войне, американский АБН'овский кораблик "замочили", раз такие "друзья по-жизни"? Да еще и так цинично?
    1. wanderer
      wanderer 4 November 2015 19: 36 New
      +3
      mvg, but not ...... I was eavesdropping and knocking at the tyhari, and for that they got it.))
  • Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 4 November 2015 16: 58 New
    +2
    I read a polemic with Israeli opponents, fun, but predictable! The attack of the toy terriers was lightning fast and with the usual resume for them- Himself a fool! And you don’t poke me, but you don’t poke me! Boring, by golly!

    Yesterday in Odessa, a Jew was tried for great misery! So how is it? - Duck, the prosecutor-prosecutor was given 5 years! hi
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 4 November 2015 17: 00 New
    +4
    OH YEAH! And now our colleagues, professor and atalef, will popularly explain to us, unreasonable, how cool Israel is, independent and self-sufficient! Here are just another American help on a quick take and immediately explain! :)
    1. Ahmed
      Ahmed 5 November 2015 02: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      OH YEAH! And now our colleagues, professor and atalef, will popularly explain to us, unreasonable, how cool Israel is, independent and self-sufficient! Here are just another American help on a quick take and immediately explain! :)


      Perhaps here I will fit in for them.

      1. Эта так называемая "помощь" - виртуозный распил бабла, законный способ ускоренного перемещения бабок из кармана американского deer the taxpayer in the pocket of the owners of the Amer’s defense industry, and to the thunderous applause of the deer taxpayer. Israel’s opinion in this scheme is of little interest to anyone (I strongly suspect that even if the Jews refuse this help, the mattresses will continue to bring it and stupidly dump the port without asking anyone), of course it can be replaced, but ...
      a) The average American deer налогоплатильщик, почему то охотнее всего хавает "помощь" именно Израилю.
      б) Матрасный ВПК заинтересован в расширении круга "помогаемых", а не в замене одного другим - ведь это больше бабок из какрмана deer tax payer.

      2. The military budget of Israel on 50% consists of military pensions, allowances and salaries (very sickly should notice). If you cut them in half (well, if the fried cock breaks out to the tuchess), then it will be possible to free the grandmother only one Dash to organize.
      А всего матрасной "помощи" by 8-10% from the military budget, not even one fifth.
      Well ... like a school math course to help.

      3. Show me an idiot who refuses a freebie for 3 lard greens, no matter what sauce ?! If, for example, tomorrow the Chinese decide to give Russia annually for 3 lards of military equipment, then ...
      a) you will be the first to write boiling water for joy in the comments
      б) Армия РФ будет эту технику юзать по максимуму (экономия бюджета йпта), а освободившееся бабло использовать там где до этого экономили или откладывали "на потом" (ну или просто распилят).

      So caps in the scabbard gentlemen, conclusions:
      1) Israel will calmly survive / live without a mattress. yes
      2) Who will let him prove it? laughing
  • Boris Zidkov
    Boris Zidkov 4 November 2015 17: 08 New
    +1
    Yes, even for a long time there was no tongue-tied rero.
  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 4 November 2015 17: 31 New
    +6
    Quote: mvg
    А зачем Вы, все-таки, в шестидневной войне, американский АБН'овский кораблик "замочили", раз такие "друзья по-жизни"? Да еще и так цинично?

    В покрытых пылью архивных иврито и англоязычных источниках причина единственная:-он собирал стратегическую информацию о перемещениях израильских дивизий, передавал на Кипр англичанам, а те Насеру, чтобы "уравновесить шансы". Это было перехвачено и преподан урок. Тогда до трёх не считали-на кону стояло всё...Кстати, до шестидневной войны на Израиле было американское эмбарго по серьёзным вооружениям.
  • sisa29
    sisa29 4 November 2015 18: 04 New
    +7
    And for me, Israel is the most adequate country. It’s just that we are used to being friends not because, contrary to the principle, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So they constantly indulged the Arabs and created the image of the enemy in the face of Israel. And think about the meaning of the article and honestly tell me what is bad for Israil to receive a thank you mountain of weapons! Israel is a country worthy of respect, around enemies, inside enemies, but they survived and fight. Everyone and boys and girls serve in the army and do not mow, and patriotism just rolls over.
    You can instruct the cons but this is my opinion
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 4 November 2015 18: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: sisa29
      And for me, Israel is the most adequate country. It’s just that we are used to being friends not because, contrary to the principle, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So they constantly indulged the Arabs and created the image of the enemy in the face of Israel

      Dzakhal protects my nieces - zer gud. Well done.
      Tzahal occupied parts of independent countries - Zer Hood ???
      Israel itself cultivates the image of the enemy rather than fighting it. Otherwise, no one will give weapons, but this is not negotiated.
      1. sisa29
        sisa29 4 November 2015 19: 13 New
        +2
        When does a 13-year-old Palestinian boy throw a knife at a 14-year-old Israeli boy? Who created the image of the enemy to whom? And there is no day for the Arabs not to spoil!
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 4 November 2015 20: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: sisa29
          When does a 13-year-old Palestinian boy throw a knife at a 14-year-old Israeli boy? Who created the image of the enemy to whom?

          А ничего что немного перед этим еврейские дети из Израиля писали послания на снарядах которые "выпускали" их отцы и братья по мирным городам Ливана.
          1. sisa29
            sisa29 4 November 2015 21: 21 New
            +3
            Yes, this nonsense is a photo, work for the public. Now the journalists with cameras stand the same way, while Arabs at that time throw stones at the Jews in the hope that the Israelis will give a tough answer and the whole world will see how the poor are oppressed ... Work for the public. So this photo is most likely to create the image of the enemy!
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 4 November 2015 21: 56 New
              +6
              Quote: sisa29
              Now journalists with cameras stand the same, while Arabs throw stones at Jews at this time.

              So.
            2. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K 4 November 2015 23: 42 New
              -1
              Quote: sisa29
              Yes, this nonsense is a photo, work for the public. Now the journalists with cameras stand the same way, while Arabs at that time throw stones at the Jews in the hope that the Israelis will give a tough answer and the whole world will see how the poor are oppressed ... Work for the public. So this photo is most likely to create the image of the enemy!

              Well, you consider Arabs such movie stars. Arab women will not take off their burqas and hijabs. They and in their clothes could take a picture quite calmly. So don’t bring the Jewish head off to the Arabic one.
              1. sisa29
                sisa29 4 November 2015 23: 56 New
                +1
                Dear Alexey! Unfortunately, the image of bloodthirsty Israel and unhappy Palestinians is constantly driven into us by all our media. I now had the opportunity to see the situation myself, I spent more than a month in Izrail and, to my surprise, what our televisions say and the situation there is not at all the same. Indeed, there is no day for the Arabs to fail, although very often their actions do not lend themselves to logic. Why rush with a knife to a group of armed soldiers and be immediately killed.
                1. Aleksey_K
                  Aleksey_K 5 November 2015 14: 40 New
                  +1
                  Quote: sisa29
                  Unfortunately, the image of bloodthirsty Israel and unfortunate Palestinians is constantly driven into us by all our media.

                  Yes, it was simply not necessary to create a new state in the Arab lands, it was not necessary to prove their superiority by force of arms. Before Israel appeared in the Middle East, none of this happened. They themselves fanned the war, but there is no way to pay off the power.
                  1. Hello
                    Hello 5 November 2015 14: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: Алексей_К
                    Yes, it was just not necessary to create a new state in the Arab lands,

                    Quote: Алексей_К
                    Before Israel appeared in the Middle East, none of this happened.

                    In Arabic? What kind of Arab lands were there? Maybe British? And before that, Ottoman? wink
                  2. miru mir
                    miru mir 5 November 2015 15: 27 New
                    +1
                    What are you talking about? What kind of nonsense are you talking about ?? Why is it that these lands became Arab ??? And what kind of wars were unleashed ???? Are you talking about the war of the 48 year ????
                    You, in my opinion, are still chewing the editorials of Soviet-era newspapers fool
                  3. miru mir
                    miru mir 5 November 2015 17: 04 New
                    +1
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5aeXPE0ajg
                    Balm for your wounded soul.
                  4. atalef
                    atalef 5 November 2015 17: 40 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Алексей_К
                    Yes, it was just not necessary to create a new state in the Arab lands

                    Well, these lands are not entirely Arab. allegedly he didn’t even say Arab at all (maybe Israel was created mainly on the lands purchased from the Arabs), further, the only ones who did not want to create a Palestinian state were the Arabs who rejected the resolution of the Soviet Union without the United Nations and attacked Israel the day after the declaration of independence.

                    Quote: Алексей_К
                    Before Israel appeared in the Middle East, none of this happened.

                    Why wasn’t there was transordanordia.
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              2. miru mir
                miru mir 5 November 2015 08: 42 New
                +2
                Were you anywhere other than Russia?
              3. atalef
                atalef 5 November 2015 17: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Алексей_К
                Arab women will not take off their burqas and hijabs


                Aleksey. Are you really sure that all Arabs wear parnjas and hijabs?
                Honour
                http://www.kontinent.org/article.php?aid=4d91091bbe342
                I know this organization of feminists very well, there are 95% of Arab women.
                in general, to see an Arab in Israel in a burqa is quite difficult. if only Bedouins in the south. and so - a rarity.
          2. miru mir
            miru mir 4 November 2015 21: 55 New
            +4
            Мирным??? А ничего, что в этих "мирных" городах ракетные установки алахбабахнутые хизбалоны до дворах прятали?
            1. sisa29
              sisa29 4 November 2015 22: 35 New
              +2
              Unfortunately, the image of peaceful and unhappy Arabs and bloodthirsty and greedy Jews has been imposed on Russian citizens from the cradle
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 4 November 2015 23: 45 New
                0
                Quote: sisa29
                Unfortunately, the image of peaceful and unhappy Arabs and bloodthirsty and greedy Jews has been imposed on Russian citizens from the cradle

                Do you not know who armed Hitler Germany? American Jews industrialists and oligarchs.
                1. sisa29
                  sisa29 5 November 2015 00: 40 New
                  -1
                  Then let's remember who created the Red Army (Red Army)
                  1. Aleksey_K
                    Aleksey_K 5 November 2015 14: 45 New
                    +1
                    Quote: sisa29
                    Then let's remember who created the Red Army (Red Army)

                    I know very well that the Jews in Russia organized a Bolshevik coup and plunged Russia into a civil war. And you had to create a red army, because it was necessary to maintain power, and so they created it.
                    But do not forget that Stalin then quickly cracked down on Jewish Bolshevism. And then they wanted to arrange a new kaganate from Russia, like the Khazar.
                    1. Hello
                      Hello 5 November 2015 14: 51 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Алексей_К
                      I know very well that the Jews in Russia organized a Bolshevik coup and plunged Russia into a civil war. And you had to create a red army, because it was necessary to maintain power, and so they created it.
                      But do not forget that Stalin then quickly cracked down on Jewish Bolshevism. And then they wanted to arrange a new kaganate from Russia, like the Khazar.

                      So the Jews staged a revolution and the good Uncle Stalin stood aside? Was not a Bolshevik? Did not participate in exa?
                2. sisa29
                  sisa29 5 November 2015 00: 45 New
                  +1
                  And one more heroes of the Soviet Union, the Jews who fought in the red army for the great national 146 people !!!
                  1. Aleksey_K
                    Aleksey_K 5 November 2015 14: 57 New
                    0
                    Quote: sisa29
                    And one more heroes of the Soviet Union, the Jews who fought in the red army for the great national 146 people !!!

                    Well, well, many Jews honestly lived in the USSR and did not serve the Zionists. They considered the USSR their homeland, and not a Zionist kaganate. And all those who escaped from Russia are true Zionists and traitors to their homeland. And traitors - they are traitors everywhere, even in Israel you are called Russians. You will never become real Jews, at least do circumcision twice, even memorize the Talmud, and grow the longest paisas for yourself, and learn Yiddish.
                    1. Hello
                      Hello 5 November 2015 15: 14 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Алексей_К
                      Well, well, many Jews honestly lived in the USSR and did not serve the Zionists. They considered the USSR their homeland, and not a Zionist kaganate.

                      I will explain to you apparently you are not aware of Zionism and the Jewish state on the territory of the USSR are mutually exclusive things, Zionism is the desire to get to the land of Israel and not to the Kremlin.
                      Quote: Алексей_К
                      And traitors - they are traitors everywhere, even in Israel you are called Russians. You will never become real Jews, at least do circumcision twice, even memorize the Talmud, and grow the longest paisas for yourself, and learn Yiddish.

                      I disappoint you, Jews do not become born Jews, and here we are in Israel, first of all the Israelis, and only then the Jews, Druze Arabs and Russians. And by the way, all people who came from the former USSR in Israel are called Russians, and all Jews from Iran are called Persians, and all Jews from Egypt are Egyptians. No one is worried about this. wassat
                      1. Aleksey_K
                        Aleksey_K 5 November 2015 15: 55 New
                        0
                        Quote: Hello
                        I will explain to you apparently you are not aware of Zionism and the Jewish state on the territory of the USSR are mutually exclusive things, Zionism is the desire to get to the land of Israel and not to the Kremlin.

                        You, in the most important thing, are deceiving everyone. The Jews did not want to create a Jewish state on the territory of the USSR (then the USSR did not exist yet), but to turn Russia into a Jewish state, i.e. create a kaganate. Earth under the name Israel did not exist then, so you wanted to create Israel from Russia
                        Не вешайте лапшу на уши читателям ВО, лучше почитайте "Протоколы синайских мудрецов". Там всё расписано, как евреям стать управляющими всего Мира.
                      2. miru mir
                        miru mir 5 November 2015 16: 59 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        "Протоколы синайских мудрецов".

                        Do not read different dirty tricks. Re-read the classics better.
                      3. Hello
                        Hello 5 November 2015 17: 19 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        лучше почитайте "Протоколы синайских мудрецов". Там всё расписано, как евреям стать управляющими всего Мира.

                        Well, if you draw the truth from the protocols then it’s clear wassat
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        and turn Russia into a Jewish state, i.e. create a kaganate

                        Forgive the way? In Judaism translate all? So Judaism does not welcome messianism
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        and turn Russia into a Jewish state, i.e. create a kaganate

                        I’m embarrassed to ask, do you know the meaning of the word Haganate? Do you know that Svyatoslav was called the Khakan of the Russians, that is, he already created the Haganat. lol
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 5 November 2015 17: 59 New
                        +1
                        I heard the same thing. that Jesus was Ukrainian and lived in Zhytomyr
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        You, in the most important thing, are deceiving everyone. The Jews did not want to create a Jewish state on the territory of the USSR (then the USSR did not exist yet), but to turn Russia into a Jewish state, i.e. create a kaganate.


                        I would walk now circumcised and with pace wassat
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        A land named Israel did not exist then.

                        I heard the same thing. that Jesus was Ukrainian and lived in Zhytomyr

                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        So you wanted to create Israel from Russia

                        Alexei . avitominosis? Or the usual fall aggravation?
                        Quote: Алексей_К
                        Не вешайте лапшу на уши читателям ВО, лучше почитайте "Протоколы синайских мудрецов". Там всё расписано, как евреям стать управляющими всего Мира.

                        Alexey, the protocols lie, we have been managing them for a long time
                        What do anti-Semites and Jewish nationalists have in common?
                        - both of them consider Jews the greatest wink
                        Zhvanetsky
                      5. Hello
                        Hello 5 November 2015 18: 20 New
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Alexey, the protocols lie, we have been managing them for a long time

                        And when is it my turn? repeat
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            3. sisa29
              sisa29 5 November 2015 00: 49 New
              -1
              Do you know who created the red army? Do you know that during the time of the great Patriotic war 146 Jewish soldiers received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union?
            4. miru mir
              miru mir 5 November 2015 08: 44 New
              0
              Yes Yes Yes...
              And the Soviet Union did not supply anything to fascist Germany.
              Вы шоры с глаз снимите, всё мыслите штампами программы "Время".
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 5 November 2015 08: 48 New
                +4
                Quote: miru mir
                Yes Yes Yes...
                And the Soviet Union did not supply anything to fascist Germany.

                Well, yes, they traded with Germany, and some Jews sponsored Hitler like that. Don’t forget, remember yes?
                However, nothing has changed since then, what is the name of the Jew who sponsors the Right Sector?
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 5 November 2015 08: 53 New
                  -2
                  Всё время слышу эту сказку, а о чём базар-не в курсе. Скинь ссыль про "спонсировали".
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 5 November 2015 09: 07 New
                    0
                    Quote: miru mir
                    I hear this tale all the time

                    In other words, any link will be perceived as a fairy tale.
                    Quote: miru mir
                    and what the bazaar is not in the know about

                    So he himself was never interested in this question. Well, it is understandable.
                    Quote: miru mir
                    Скинь ссыль про "спонсировали".

                    If there is a desire you will find yourself, but I know - you will shout it is not true wassat
                  2. miru mir
                    miru mir 5 November 2015 09: 21 New
                    -2
                    Aha wassat You throw some kind of nonsense, but I immediately rushed to look for this nonsense laughing
                  3. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 5 November 2015 09: 25 New
                    0
                    Quote: miru mir
                    You throw some sort of nonsense

                    Well, if it’s nonsense, there’s nothing to talk about with you. hi
                  4. miru mir
                    miru mir 5 November 2015 09: 28 New
                    0
                    So I am always free. And without your wishes.
                    Thank you for the minus hi
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 5 November 2015 15: 34 New
        +1
        http://beloepyatno.blogspot.co.il/2010/06/blog-post_13.html
      3. atalef
        atalef 5 November 2015 17: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Quote: sisa29
        Unfortunately, the image of peaceful and unhappy Arabs and bloodthirsty and greedy Jews has been imposed on Russian citizens from the cradle

        Do you not know who armed Hitler Germany? American Jews industrialists and oligarchs.

        But the USSR is not on this list?
        I think it's not a secret
        “The total value of Soviet orders placed in Germany in 1931 reached a record amount of 919,2 million Reichsmarks. If several important German engineering companies, especially in the field of equipment manufacturing, withstood the depression, and Hitler managed to get them back to work in his quest for re-equipment after 1933, this was solely due to Soviet orders that kept these companies afloat. For example, in the first half of 1932, the USSR purchased 50 percent of pig iron and steel exported by Germany, 60 percent of all earthmoving equipment and dynamos sold abroad, 70 percent of all metalworking machines, 80 percent of cranes and sheet metal, and as much as 90 percent of all steam and gas turbines and steam forging machines that Germany exported. ”

        - G. Hilger, A. Meyer “Russia and Germany. Allies or Enemies? ”, Centerpolygraph, 2008 - 415 p.

        On August 19, 1939 a trade agreement was signed. The official TASS report on this occasion looked like:




        TASS. On August 19, after lengthy negotiations that ended successfully, the Trade and Credit Agreement between the USSR and Germany was signed in Berlin.
        The agreement was signed by the USSR - Deputy. Trade representative E. I. Babarin, and from the German side - the city of Schnurre.
        The Trade Credit Agreement provides for the provision by Germany of the USSR of a loan in the amount of 200 million German marks, for a period of seven years out of 5% for the purchase of German goods within two years from the date of signing of the Agreement.
        The agreement also provides for the supply of goods from the USSR to Germany in the same period, that is, for two years in the amount of 180 million German marks.

        - The newspaper "Pravda" August 21, 1939 [2]

        In his speech on August 31, Molotov described the new agreement as follows: “This was not the first trade credit agreement with Germany under the existing government. But this agreement differs for the better not only from the 1935 agreement, but from all the previous ones, not to mention the fact that we did not have a single equally beneficial economic agreement with England, France or any other country
  • Ahmed
    Ahmed 4 November 2015 23: 01 New
    +5
    Quote: quilted jacket
    А ничего что немного перед этим еврейские дети из Израиля писали послания на снарядах которые "выпускали" их отцы и братья по мирным городам Ливана.


    Оооо! "Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda" собственной персоной! fellow
    Vatnik, I watched your growth from the corporal (this title more accurately identifies you lol) before Fuhrer Marshal.
    And I had a suspicion ... maybe the Jews abused you as a child? Do not keep within yourself, share the pain. crying

    And as for the kids .... well, the Palestinian course is a hundred times better! The Lamb of God. fellow
    1. Ahmed
      Ahmed 4 November 2015 23: 17 New
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      А потом "ах и ох" откуда же такие ужасные ИГИЛовцы беруться? (невинная наивность) belay
      Yes, from those same Palestinian children and grow up, under the tacit approval of such as Herr-Vatnik. fool
      But ... who cares, you can always blame the Jews \ mattresses \ liberalists, anyone, just to be loved inert infantile responsibility to withdraw. laughing
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    3. miru mir
      miru mir 4 November 2015 23: 19 New
      +2
      Vatnichnik-mahmud rather mini-Khomeini laughing Although they, Goebbels and Khomeini, are two pair boots.
    4. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2015 17: 48 New
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      Quote: Ahmed
      Vatnik, I watched your growth from the corporal (this title more accurately identifies you) to the Fuhrer Marshal. And I had a suspicion ... maybe the Jews abused you as a child? Do not keep within yourself, share the pain.

      Fuck us his pain? wassat
      1. Ahmed
        Ahmed 5 November 2015 20: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Fuck us his pain? wassat


        Gloating ...
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 5 November 2015 21: 21 New
          +1

          Musical pause laughing
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    5. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2015 17: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Ahmed
      Vatnik, I watched your growth from the corporal (this title more accurately identifies you) to the Fuhrer Marshal. And I had a suspicion ... maybe the Jews abused you as a child? Do not keep within yourself, share the pain.

      Fuck us his pain? wassat
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  • wanderer
    wanderer 4 November 2015 19: 42 New
    +2
    Tusv -Zer Hood in the second case as well. Israel captured these lands during the wars that they imposed on him, and the winner, as you know, gets everything (or a little bit like in our case).
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 4 November 2015 21: 37 New
      +5
      Quote: wanderer
      Tusv -Zer Hood in the second case as well. Israel captured these lands during the wars that they imposed on him, and the winner, as you know, gets everything (or a little bit like in our case).


      A good excuse .. the 2008 war was imposed on us, now they are imposing a war on Ukraine ... should we come off to the full?
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 4 November 2015 23: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: wanderer
      Tusv -Zer Hood in the second case as well. Israel captured these lands during the wars that they imposed on him, and the winner, as you know, gets everything (or a little bit like in our case).

      So you did not defeat the Arabs. The winner, as a rule, celebrates victory in the capitals of the defeated countries. Who did you defeat? And if you have not won and pacified, then you get daily. Why do you think the USSR crossed the borders and began to drive the fascists to Berlin, so that the vanquished knew that he was defeated. By the way, Napoleon was driven to Paris.
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      2. atalef
        atalef 5 November 2015 18: 18 New
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        Quote: Алексей_К
        So you did not defeat the Arabs.

        Ok let them not win

        Quote: Алексей_К
        The winner, as a rule, celebrates victory in the capitals of the defeated countries. Who did you defeat?

        As a rule, we set the rules for ourselves wassat
        Quote: Алексей_К
        And if you have not won and pacified, then you get daily.

        Monthly, we pay salaries once a month
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Why do you think the USSR crossed the borders and began to drive the Nazis to Berlin, so that the vanquished knew that he was defeated

        Only because of this ?
        Although with the Arabs, this would not have passed.
        Quote: Алексей_К
        By the way, Napoleon was driven to Paris.

        And Finland, Japan and Georgia?
  • Ahmed
    Ahmed 4 November 2015 23: 25 New
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    Quote: Tusv
    Israel itself is rather cultivating the image of the enemy ...


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  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 4 November 2015 18: 25 New
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    У меня лишь недавно появилось время на интернет-забавы и вот что я заметил. В русскоязычном сегменте, виртуальный вымышленный Израиль покоится на русском слове "еврей".Это естественно, но если обычному израильтянину, который думает на иврите, на арабском, на ахмарском, английском, французском, испанском и тд. и тп, попробовать объяснить на родном языке, что означает русское слово "еврей", то лишь немногие, самые терпеливые, радостно поймут, что этим словом "русские в России" называют "русских в Израиле", вроде как "понауехавшие". Ну и? Господа!В Израиле полным ходом (как на пути к коммунизму smile) формируется абсолютно новый народ не имеющий ничего общего с "евреями по-русски" "по немецки", "по-французски", по хрен знает ещё чего. Как он впоследствии самоназовётся-исраэлим,игудим,иври,-неизвестно, но это факт и к середине века процесс будет в основном завершен, а до конца века-"шлифоваться". Успехов вам всем.
    1. mvg
      mvg 4 November 2015 18: 34 New
      +2
      Открытые источники и официальную версию про "перепутали с транспортом", я читал.. И то, что Израиль в это время сотрудничал больше с Францией - тоже. А Вы действительно думаете, что Насер не знал, о предполагаемом ударе? При наличии в Средиземном море соединения советских кораблей? Такая масштабная подготовка к удару не может пройти бесследно, да и Советы всегда утверждали, что Египет был предупрежден.
      Ладно, выиграли и выиграли, победивший - прав. Про расстрелы египетских солдат говорить не будем. Сошлемся на то, что "кормить было нечем"
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 4 November 2015 19: 00 New
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      Quote: Oleg7700
      В русскоязычном сегменте, виртуальный вымышленный Израиль покоится на русском слове "еврей"

      And if I am a Jew, but Russian. Without any quotes. Is there a fictional character in your head? Or a virtual man?
      1. wanderer
        wanderer 4 November 2015 21: 42 New
        +3
        Tusv - Hebrew - derivative from Hebrew (Aramaic) Ever. In different contexts, it can mean - another, alien, crossed
        , usually translated as another, but Russian is certainly cool (maybe still a Russian?).
        1. Rrrj
          Rrrj 5 November 2015 10: 58 New
          0
          Quote: wanderer
          ... usually translated as another, but Russian is certainly cool (maybe a Russian after all?).

          Do not belittle - let the person be what he wants to be.
  • IAlex
    IAlex 4 November 2015 21: 41 New
    +1
    Видать одна часть ушла на помощь ИГИЛ, другая на обновление сведений о "беспомощной" России...
  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 4 November 2015 23: 18 New
    +4
    По теме поста.Только что Локхид подписал с Пентагоном очередной девятый "мелкосерийный" контракт на производство 55 ед.Ф35 различных типов. Контракт предусматривает производство семи дополнительных Ф35"Адир" для Израиля в 2017 году. Вот ведь,могут после пинка под зад...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 5 November 2015 04: 16 New
      +1
      Why complicate things? At first they ignited the conflict, then they got new contracts. The glazier hired the guys to break the windows, then we conclude a contract with the tenants for the installation of glass. Everything ingenious is simple!
  • Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 5 November 2015 17: 07 New
    +1
    Israeli media today announced that Israel wants an increase in US military assistance of $ 2 billion annually for the period 2018-2028. That is, from 3.1 billion to 5.1. 4.5 billion I think will converge ...
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 November 2015 18: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Oleg7700
      Israeli media today announced that Israel wants an increase in US military assistance of $ 2 billion annually for the period 2018-2028. That is, from 3.1 billion to 5.1. 4.5 billion I think will converge ...

      I will build a double dome ...? bully The first rusted ...)))
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 5 November 2015 21: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The first rusted ...)))

        Humorist...