Rosoboronexport at an exhibition in Bangkok expects increased attention from foreign partners to Yak-130 aircraft

Rosoboronexport is taking part in the Defense & Security 2015 international arms exhibition in Bangkok. Head of the Foreign Relations Department of Rosoboronexport Viktor Brakunov informs that the greatest interest from foreign partners is expected in the Yak-130 combat training aircraft, tanks T-90S, as well as military transport helicopters Mi-17.

In the capital of Thailand, Rosoboronexport will present Buk-M2E and Tor-M2 anti-aircraft missile systems. During the exhibition, it is planned to sign contracts for the delivery to foreign countries of the police version of the armored car Tiger, BMP-3, BTR-80A, ZRPK Pantsir-S1.

Representatives Rosoboronexport:

During the exhibition, the project “Integrated safety of large administrative entities, critical facilities and state borders” will be presented. Based on the analysis of existing threats, the company developed 10 typical technical projects for integrated security systems: to protect borders, ports and the coastal zone, ensure the safety of cities, important industrial facilities, conduct mass sporting events and others. These systems are designed to form a single information space, coordinate and control the actions of various law enforcement agencies and special services, which can significantly increase the effectiveness of the fight against crime, terrorism, riots, illegal migration, and respond quickly in case of emergencies.

During the exhibition "Defense & Security 2015" it is planned to discuss the prospects for expanding cooperation, including with new partners.

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[bad]

new aviation technology especially must be run in Syria .. while there is an opportunity and do not hesitate to professionally promote it .. and there people will stretch ..

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: bad

new aviation technology especially must be run in Syria .. while there is an opportunity and do not hesitate to professionally promote it .. and there people will stretch ..

The Yak-130 is primarily a training aircraft, and only then a combat aircraft (this was done for small countries that cannot afford to buy training aircraft separately and combat aircraft separately), it is inferior to the Su-25 in terms of protection and combat load.

[Altona]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

The Yak-130 is primarily a training aircraft, and only then a combat aircraft (this was done for small countries that cannot afford to buy training aircraft separately and combat aircraft separately), it is inferior to the Su-25 in terms of protection and combat load.

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So he is apparently considered as a light attack aircraft, moreover, imprisoned for anti-terrorist operations in order to inflict a targeted blow, for example, on a caravan of smugglers or drug dealers. Why drive a heavy attack aircraft?

[maiman61]

That's why they will buy this plane!

[Dryuya2]

almost off topic
yesterday on the page of many "acquaintances" on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp6N_Hi3950#t=11 упыря
that still mra.zota !!!! (be careful)
https://vk.com/id261995729
and there’s such a screen
From the list of victims in the Russian liner:
Sayapin Alexey
Sayapina Natalya
our forum member ????

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Dryuya2

Sayapin Alexey
Sayapina Natalya
our forum member ????

Good memory of the guilty of the dead.
May God give strength to endure grief to relatives and friends.

[mvg]

And the YAK costs more than the Rook, slightly cheaper than the Korean T-50, but more expensive than the Chinese and the Italian .. At the same time, without radar and without supersonic. Plus - flight simulation of generation 4+. So the prospects for him are hazy.
Mi-17 is already selling well (the best in the world), and the T-90 doesn’t need to be steamed for a long time ..
BUKI and TOR to sell to countries where NATO weapons and standards? Hardly. China makes its air defense, India, in addition to the S-400 is not interested, making its own air defense systems and buying Jewish. APR countries, if solvent, then Patriots, if not, no and no court ..
So we are going to the exhibition by tourists.

[Basarev]

And besides, it should be remembered that the Italians had documentation on the Yak with the Italians with whom they worked out in the nineties ... And then the disagreement happened, and the Italians left, taking all the documentation with them.

[sergeybulkin]

The Italians left, taking all the documentation with them

Let them choke , I think ours has long been done, fly, certified, then everything is in order.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: sergeybulkin

Let them choke, I think ours has long been done, fly, certified, then everything is in order.

For information, colleague:

The closest foreign counterpart, practically the brother of the Russian aircraft, is the Italian M-346, which was originally developed jointly by the Design Bureau named after Yakovleva and the Italian company L'Alenia Aermacchi. At the final stage of the project, the parties had insoluble disagreements, and they stopped joint development. As a result, each of the 2 firms received full technical documentation for the basic version of the future aircraft (glider). After that, their own UBS models were released.

Excerpt from an article by Sergey Yuferev, VO December 28, 2012, "Yak-130 and its closest relatives"

So everything is fine colleague, "the Italians, leaving all the documentation with them, did not take with them."
Something like that, colleague.

[fedotow]

Just the glider is least of all similar to domestic developments. It turns out, on the contrary, we grabbed at parting.

[sergeybulkin]

Yak 130, in all respects! among such competitors there are none (none at all).
The only thing is that the Korean T-50 is close to it, but it has one turbine, and with weapons it does not fly yet and may not (purely training), and it is NOT much more expensive, but as much as 10 lemons ...

[Mera joota]

Quote: sergeybulkin

The only thing is that the Korean T-50 is close to it, but it has one turbine

On the T-50 is General Electric F404, one of the best aircraft engines in the world. Well, anyone with reliability is all right.

Quote: sergeybulkin

and with armaments, he does not fly yet or maybe he will not (purely training)

It depends on which option. They mostly buy the shock version. For example, the T-50 is in service with the Thai Air Force.

Quote: sergeybulkin

and as much as 10 lemons bucks ...

So there is something to pay extra for:

[Altona]

Quote: mvg

And YAK costs more than "Rook",

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In general, yes, the Su-25 costs 6 million, and the Yak-130 14 million Washington hryvnia ...

[dckx]

Let me disagree - regarding the C-400, it is doubtful that the system in the deployment area will stand without the same BUKs and TORs, even with its own air defense systems (which tells me that there is a common information "field" in these systems). If I am mistaken, correct it.

[Kadex]

Quote: mvg

And YAK costs more than "Rook"

I didn't know that. Expensive "desk" turns out.
To tell you the truth, it’s better to have a full-fledged SU-25 attack aircraft, and you can study on the Yak-152, IMHO, of course.

[Orionvit]

We must not forget that the D-222 engine was produced in Zaporozhye by Motor Sich. Any deliveries of engines to Russia are prohibited by Kiev, almost on pain of death. "Motor Sich" made 80% of its production for Russia, now after the coup it is forced to fire specialists.

[Orionvit]

I lied, not D-222. and AI-222-25F.

[castle]

I’m waiting for your next report from Syria, not from the sofa

[fairmen]

YAK 130 is a great car as they say small bug and smelly yes there is nothing to compare with

[kil 31]

It's time they replace the L-39, let them change it to our Yak. Also, you can hardly wait for all ordered "Oplots" from Ukraine. We can help with the T-90. And of course, don't let other guests pass by our stands.

[castle]

Well, why, nothing to compare?
You can compare, for example, with the Italian Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master. You can compare with the British Hawker Siddeley Hawk and the new Czech Aero L-39NG, well, and for the sake of slap, you can compare with the Chinese Hongdu L-15 and the South Korean KAI T-50 Golden Eagle.

[78bor1973]

We compare, only we have a Yak on the stream, and who else can brag about it, but almost no one!

[Mera joota]

Quote: 78bor1973

We compare, only we have a Yak on the stream, and who else can brag about it, but almost no one!

except Czech all in a series and are in service with several countries. But you probably are not interested, otherwise they would have checked ...

Quote: hrad

with the Italian Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master. You can compare with the British Hawker Siddeley Hawk and the new Czech Aero L-39NG, well, and for the sake of slap, you can compare with the Chinese Hongdu L-15 and the South Korean KAI T-50 Golden Eagle.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Mera Joota

Quote: 78bor1973
We compare, only we have a Yak on the stream, and who else can brag about it, but almost no one!
except Czech all in a series and are in service with several countries. But you probably are not interested, otherwise they would have checked ...

Competently, dear colleague, and quite tactfully.

[Throw]

The question arose, why aren’t Yak130 used in Syria? Would fly around in conditions close to combat, at the same time and Syrian pilots can be taught. Not all of our rake ..

[YGV-97219]

Natural question!, From my point of view. As if not in combat conditions to check the second part of the name of the aircraft!

[Drshan]

And why training and combat use in combat conditions, if there is enough number of fighting?

[Throw]

TEACH Syrians.

And, despite all the "hats tossing" hurray, we must admit that we are not dealing with a regular army and air defense, but we are fucking the Papuans. Therefore, the conditions there are still close not to combat, but to air darts.
It would be good if it stayed ..

[ty60]

To test in a real battle, the benefit of air defense does not exist.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: DrShAN

And why training and combat use in combat conditions, if there is enough number of fighting?

That's truly well-said, Dear Alexander Nikolaevich.

[avt]

Quote: Lance

, along with the Syrian pilots can be taught.

The Syrians ordered the training of the Yak-130, but where in Syria now to train it!?

Quote: Lance

and why the Yak130 is not used in Syria? They would fly around under conditions close to combat

I don’t understand this sado-maso! That's why so flyers then? There is quite a proven Su-25 in battles, no! Let's try the Yak instead! Or maybe even for "testing" the parachutes should be taken away and let them fly in shorts? And God forbid they really send and also shoot down, so at once the guardians, "tests" will howl - How could they send a training airplane into the heat of battles!

[Throw]

Until it bakes, you can fly) see above
We skip parachutes with shorts, and as for Su 25go, first airplanes yet to adoption, at once sent for use in Afghanistan and at the same time brought and made changes.
That is why 25 and became one of the best attack aircraft.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Lance

Until it bakes, you can fly) see above
We’ll miss parachutes with shorts, and as for the Su 25th, the first planes, even before they were put into service, were immediately sent for use in Afghanistan and, at the same time, they brought and made changes.
That is why the 25th and became one of the best attack aircraft.

Duc, Dear Lance, the situation in Afghanistan and Syria is still different, pay tribute to objectivity, colleague.

[avt]

Quote: Lance

We’ll miss parachutes with shorts, and as for the Su 25th, the first planes, even before they were put into service, were immediately sent for use in Afghanistan and, at the same time, they brought and made changes.

Campaign does not skip that. Well, really, I don’t even want to think about a simple thought - the Su-25 was originally created as a full-fledged assault aircraft, and the Yak-130 was a training one with the ability to further equip and use it as a combat training, with all the ensuing problems?

[Manul]

Quote: Lance

Oznik question, why aren't the Yak130 used in Syria? Would fly around in conditions close to combat, at the same time and Syrian pilots can be taught. Not all of our rake ..

Quote: yugv-xnumx

Natural question!, From my point of view. As if not in combat conditions to check the second part of the name of the aircraft!

The Yak-130 in the current training modification does not have any reservations, or sighting systems. In Syria, it is 100% downed, with it from the Kalash. As I understand it, for customers who wished it as a battle reservation, at least some kind of reservation could be made, but he could only fight on a shaving unit. I would think a hundred times before using it for non-educational purposes. Personally, my opinion is that it was completely in vain that there were so many stuffs in this aircraft that they were dumb to use. It would be better to reduce the cost and production of the flight hour, but they made a purely unpretentious training aircraft. I would like to hear from our respected experts on this subject. (Something vaf has not looked at us for a long time )

[GRAY]

Quote: Manul

, and sighting systems

An apparatus capable of using KABA sighting systems is a priori. Booking is installed optionally, the radar has not yet been washed down but really wants to.

This machine will go into battle last, because pilots need no less than airplanes.

[Manul]

Quote: GRAY

This machine will go into battle last, because pilots need no less than airplanes.

1. The essence of the discussions was that the Yak-130 is going to buy poor third countries, which immediately put the car into battle. I am against. This will be a big blow to our image when Yaks fall from heaven onto African land.
2. What booking for an aircraft can you optionally place on an aircraft that was not originally bookable in its classification? Armored back? Naturally. Cases for the most important parts? Maybe, but unlikely. And about the cap - should I tell you? We can’t change the bezelkapletny hood to a hard one, if only because the ejection system there is designed only for this "light bulb", which easily flies away from the pyrocord.
We do not know how to produce non-binding armored caps, unlike the Yankees, which means that the cap will remain crystal.
So how do you optionally want to increase your reservation (and please honestly subtract every kilogram of armor from weapons)? I really, really - very interesting.
3.

An apparatus capable of using KABA sighting systems is a priori.

This "a priori" is a little confusing. Do you have reliable information that the current Yak-130 has this system? Or will the manufacturers say "we need time to develop and test it"?
Aiming systems - I don’t dare to argue about them at all. My opinion on this issue comes from the opinions of our esteemed colleagues and comrades. Let them enlighten us on this issue.

[GRAY]

Quote: Manul

The essence of the discussions was that the Yak-130s were going to be bought by poor third countries,

You drew a Su-25
The manufacturer claims that he can install an easy reservation (Kevlar from the shooter?).
There is an aiming complex - air-to-air guided missiles, and he can also use air-to-ground, as well as everything, all tele-controlled.
For rogue countries that want to send him into battle, he is not suitable - the plane is intended for training, first of all. It just makes no sense to pay, in this case, for "brains" capable of imitating various machines and the use of weapons.
Its use as a light attack aircraft is assumed only in case of war (in the sense that the region will be at all).

[Manul]

Quote: GRAY

You drew a Su-25
The manufacturer claims that he can install an easy reservation (Kevlar from the shooter?).
There is an aiming complex - air-to-air guided missiles, and he can also use air-to-ground, as well as everything, all tele-controlled.
For rogue countries that want to send him into battle, he is not suitable - the plane is intended for training, first of all. It just makes no sense to pay, in this case, for "brains" capable of imitating various machines and the use of weapons.
Its use as a light attack aircraft is assumed only in case of war (in the sense that the region will be at all).

Well, then all the same, he is training, and he cannot be any combat. If a

For poor countries that want to send him into battle, he is not suitable

, then it means that not rogue countries for their tasks will acquire more suitable cars, and not Head-and-Sholders - three in one?

[GRAY]

Quote: Manul

Well, then all the same, he is training, and he cannot be any combat

He is a combat trainer.

Quote: Manul

, then it means that not rogue countries for their tasks will acquire more suitable cars, and not Head-and-Sholders - three in one?

They do not have a fleet of aircraft for which it is necessary to save resources. They will buy garbage bins of the ancients and forward.

[Mera joota]

Quote: GRAY

There is an aiming complex - air-to-air guided missiles, and he can also use air-to-ground, as well as everything, all tele-controlled.

An aiming complex in both cases is the pilot's eye. In the first case, I use the helmet-mounted target designation system, in the second case, using the GAB KAB-500KR. The Yak-130 does not have its own detection systems.

[GRAY]

Quote: Mera Joota

An aiming complex in both cases is the pilot's eye.

The detection system and sighting system are, like, slightly different things.
Even for ordinary bombing, you need a sight and it is there, it's not a biplane from the times of the First World War, after all.

[Manul]

Quote: GRAY

(Kevlar from the rifleman?)

A very interesting idea. For her

[Mera joota]

Quote: GRAY

An apparatus capable of using KABA sighting systems is a priori.

NO on the Yak-130 sighting systems. Read the information on the OKB website.

[Ustin]

Yak-130 with KABami works.

[GRAY]

Quote: Mera Joota

NO on the Yak-130 sighting systems. Read the information on the OKB website.

"Aiming and aerobatic complex" - what do you think?

With the means of detection at his seams - here I agree.

[demel2]

My opinion is that pilots need more, a piece of iron can always be configured, people are important.

[Tusv]

Quote: Manul

it’s completely in vain that they stuffed so much into this aircraft that it is worth using. It would be better to reduce the cost and production of the flight hour, but made a purely unpretentious training aircraft

Do you think barmaleys and adversaries will put on full pants, only from the beautiful flight of our falcons?
Introduced by Barmalea
- Alla akbar. Russian completely muff became.
To shoot down with one rocket and to aimly bomb you must be able to fly just as well as beautifully. From that and this car is complicated.

[Oman 47]

Manul
in the subject of the Yak-130?
There was information that pasta at the stage of joint development of this apparatus was stolen from our technical documentation; now they release almost the same plane ?!

[Manul]

Quote: Oman 47

There was information that pasta at the stage of joint development of this apparatus was stolen from our technical documentation; now they release almost the same plane ?!

Alexei, I’m not against training aircraft for any country. They’ve erased their happiness. I’m just trying to make it clear that his purpose is only as a training one. And to use it as a battle is only appropriate because of hopelessness - when there is nothing more to throw into battle.

[arane]

Quote: Manul

Quote: Oman 47

There was information that pasta at the stage of joint development of this apparatus was stolen from our technical documentation; now they release almost the same plane ?!

Alexei, I’m not against training aircraft for any country. They’ve erased their happiness. I’m just trying to make it clear that his purpose is only as a training one. And to use it as a battle is only appropriate because of hopelessness - when there is nothing more to throw into battle.

Then let him always be with us only training

[Throw]

Some kind of stubborn repetition of "fighting" "fighting" ..
The fighting there is on the ground. But there is no air defense. Therefore, in the air, not fights, but air darts!

[Manul]

Quote: Lance

The fighting there is on the ground. But there is no air defense. Therefore, in the air, not fights, but air darts!

ZU-23 is not air defense? Tell the pilots if they suddenly arrive (Pah-pah-pah).

[castle]

Does the author have statistics on the losses of combat aircraft from infantry weapon fire? Aviation losses statistics from combat use of Shilka? "Tunguska"?
The armor on the plane could withstand Kalashnikov fire. But you still have to get there, but this practically does not happen. I remember stories about how an Iraqi grandfather shot down an American plane with his Yezail flintlock. What you won't hear after the battle!
And against shells of 20 mm and larger, armor does not save. And why comfort the plane?
For an attack aircraft, it is more important than a system for detecting, aiming and tracking targets, as well as an anti-aircraft defense system. He worked out his goals and left before they found you.

[Manul]

Quote: hrad

Does the author have statistics on the losses of combat aircraft from infantry weapon fire? Aviation losses statistics from combat use of Shilka? "Tunguska"?
The armor on the plane could withstand Kalashnikov fire. But you still have to get there, but this practically does not happen. I remember stories about how an Iraqi grandfather shot down an American plane with his Yezail flintlock. What you won't hear after the battle!
And against shells of 20 mm and larger, armor does not save. And why comfort the plane?
For an attack aircraft, it is more important than a system for detecting, aiming and tracking targets, as well as an anti-aircraft defense system. He worked out his goals and left before they found you.

This is how our "Rook" returned home after a sortie. Gray was right. As it turned out, I compare it with the Su-25 ... Those tasks that can be hung on the Yak-130, the "Rook" will perform 100%. The Yak-130 will not cope. There will be heavy losses. Other tasks are beyond his power (here I can be mistaken. If he can put in a "penny" from three kilometers from above, then maybe there is a reason in it, as in combat.
But then the question immediately arises - why such a line of weapons? NURSY for example?

[castle]

I meant machine guns, machine guns, artillery systems, but not STINGER or Russian (Chinese) portable systems. In the photo, it seems STINGER worked.

[Manul]

Report a violation of the rules of the site

I mean, everything that the Yak-130 will have to face. And all that you listed, it can be deadly for any combat pilot. The Yak-130 does not have ANY reservation

The armor on the plane could withstand Kalashnikov fire.

What do you mean by IL-2?

For an attack aircraft, it is more important than a system for detecting, aiming and tracking targets, as well as an anti-aircraft defense system. He worked out his goals and left before they found you.

And we are definitely talking about the Yak-130 with you ????

[fedotow]

I do not pretend to be an expert, but I will express my opinion.
In terms of the totality of its characteristics, the Yak-130 can really occupy the niche of the Kalashnik Aircraft. With all the headaches that come with it for some. It just takes time for the world to figure it out

[viktor561]

Quote: fairmen

Yak 130 great car

The best training aircraft in the world - recognized !!!!!

[Manul]

Quote: viktor561

The best training aircraft in the world - recognized !!!!!

Our mass media and true patriots of Russia.

[Maksus]

Who is recognized, if not secret? Who learned to fly on it? We have a little for now ...

[viktor561]

In total, from 2012 to the beginning of 2015, the Air Force received 65 Yak-130s, including 55 - built by Irkut under the contract of 2011 and 10 aircraft built by the Sokol. On October 9, 2015, 4 aircraft were still delivered to the training aviation base of the Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots (Armavir) - total 69 training machines, which is not much?

[Maksus]

Namely, 70 - machines - it's about nothing. They are training, different people work with them, more breakdowns and emergency situations happen than with drill machines.

[viktor561]

Are you a pilot? - Training vehicles are always a priori smaller than military ones and 70 are quite a few! And how many attack and fighter aviation pilots graduate from our military military schools per year? - A little more than training aircraft!

[Maksus]

Think with your head, not with slogans. How many aviation schools are there in the country? How many cadets do they have? Combat pilots must relearn new technology? And if so, on which machines? Immediately at T50 / PAK-FA? And, again thinking about the operation of training aircraft - a lot of 70 machines throughout the country or not?

[Ustin]

70 cars are not a number, if there are cadets and schools. Most likely, after some time it will be necessary to add to the existing fleet. Of course, you can stop the production of aircraft, waiting for the Order. But stopping even for a year will lead to a restart, which will cost a lot of money expensive. And if for a longer period, then resuscitation will be problematic. (This applies to the attack aircraft SU 25, or the same A-10 Amerovsky)
Yes, and the price will come out much more expensive than the YAK. So support for the "theme" is quite a worthy task for "Rosoboronexport", and they are "sharpened" for this.

[GRAY]

And "what" is it about?
And separately I wonder "why?"

[Maksus]

What is it about 120-150 machines to really get a modern training platform, replace the obsolete L-39 (and there are more of them 60 in service) and have several cars in case of an emergency.

[Ustin]

You can still pair Yak in each squadron or regiment. Again, for weather reconnaissance, restoration of lost skills, etc. There will be work for him ...

[Mera joota]

Quote: viktor561

The best training aircraft in the world - recognized !!!!!

Who is this? So the most common jet fusion in the world is the British Hawk.

[Manul]

Quote: Mera Joota

Who is this? So the most common jet fusion in the world is the British Hawk.

The best post in the branch. IMHO naturally.

[silberwolf88]

I think ... that the export expectations from the aircraft are quite justified ... it is good and multi-tasking ... it is both an excellent relatively inexpensive fighter-bomber ... and an excellent "desk" for training in piloting modern aircraft complexes ...
It turned out to be a good car.

[viktor561]

In Bangkok, it seems Ukrainian armored vehicles are represented - does anyone know this?

[Throw]

In the course, this is to demonstrate targeted bombing from the Yak

[Mera joota]

Quote: viktor561

In Bangkok, it seems Ukrainian armored vehicles are represented - does anyone know this?

They learn to fly on the Korean T-50, Yak-130 nothing shines there.

[Nymp]

The Yak-130 with subsonic speed, as well as a completely reliable fighting vehicle. But more suitable for training pilots, as The dashboard has a universal virtual tuning for any Russian aircraft.

[Altona]

Interest in the T-90MS tank was probably spurred on by the "Armata" and it is considered as a budget alternative. Yes, and in Syria, Russian, sorry, Soviet weapons, though worn out, without spare parts, eaten by sand, are at war ... Moreover, the potential of the T-90 tank has not yet been revealed on the battlefield ...

[s.melioxin]

... the greatest interest on the part of foreign partners is expected in combat training aircraft Yak-130

As they say, learn to ride a "bike" and all the roads are yours. Moreover, with such "toys".

[Mera joota]

Quote: s.melioxin

As they say, learn to ride a "bike" and all the roads are yours. Moreover, with such "toys".

Honestly, in the Asia-Pacific region, the Yak-130 has nothing to catch. There are no buyers there. Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, and the Koreans themselves fly the T-50 Golden Eagle. Australians and Malaysia on Hawk, Chinese on Hongdu L-15, Singapore on M-346 Master ... Everything is clogged ...

[Ustin]

And Bangladesh, Myanmar is not in this region?

[Mera joota]

Quote: Ustin

And Bangladesh, Myanmar is not in this region?

Is it a scheme to sell on credit, and then write off the debt?

[serezhasoldatow]

It is significant that the BTR-80A is also held in high esteem. Armored personnel carrier.

[Maksus]

All the same, the YAK is a training aircraft, a kind of super-simulator, and all these "toys" for training are nothing more. Even for counter-partisan actions, it is too demanding - you need a normal band, maintenance, and not enough armor. This means that the market for it is the countries in which our aircraft are in service, and this list is shrinking, since the Chinese are actively interfering with their cheap likeness of our technology. Well, the market of NATO countries is also past.

[mvg]

Yak-130. Not a very successful car, I have not heard about export orders, except for Belarus (the Syrians got a long shot). All the same, Italians and Czechs in this niche "swim" longer, it was not for nothing that Aero was training in the USSR .. And, as I wrote earlier, in terms of money they lose to China (with Khokhlov engines), in terms of equipping Italy, and especially Korea. What our Air Force bought them was what they did for them .. Czech Ls are already quite old. And it is not advisable to completely destroy the Yakovlev Design Bureau. This is just an opinion, does not pretend to be the only truth.
Yes, and the combat option to remodel, add armor, sights, with its combat load of 2 tons ... and at the cost, a dubious undertaking.

[TSOOBER]

Algeria, Bangladesh, Belarus, Vietnam!

[mvg]

4 Belarusians, have not bought yet, are waiting for a present. 6 Vietnam .. also, like, 6 want to .. Algeria-fly to SU. This is a penny .. All traditional partners fly on MiGs and Sushki .. An hour flight on Yak is cheaper .. I talked about NEW markets ..

[TSOOBER]

Malaysia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Philippines

[dmmyak40]

You should not refer to Aero - this is not a very good example, because the decision to purchase Elek was made political, as, for example, in the case of the L-410. Those. just supporting industry of the CMEA country, but to the detriment of its

[castle]

Dear dmmyak40! I can not agree with you. Not because I am Czech, but because I was with that one. It's just that there was nothing better in the CMEA in this category than the L-39 (the PZL TS-11 Iskra was left to the Poles), and what was better than the L-410 for a specific task? And there were no competitors in the CMEA where to build. And, for God's sake, do not talk about the support of the Czechoslovak industry from the USSR. And without the USSR they were not in the last places. Maybe in vain, but now the Russian owner of the Czech company Let Kunovice, is trying again to take into the air all the L-410 aircraft that are on the territory of Russia, and may build the old L-610. We will wait and see.

[mvg]

How many L'eks were there in the country? Is it just to keep the Czechs in their pants? Was Yakovlev's design bureau heavily loaded? Yak-38, 41, 43 .., a variant with an AWACS aircraft, and all large-scale ones? Maybe in the civilian world they worked "miracles", for example, the Yak-40? Our design bureaus were falling apart, the MiG miraculously survived, Antonov ended up in another country ..
PS: Just now I saw the comment below. I wanted to write that the yugs and Czechs in the police department lived better than anyone else ...

[castle]

QUIZ for respected mvg:
How many Czech ZLIN sports planes were in the USSR flying clubs?
Are you familiar with the acrobatic world champion Zlín Z-50?
Do you know that some states, friends of the USSR, bought Czechoslovak planes instead of Soviet ones?
Especially after 1989
What do you know about the Czechoslovak Let L-200 Morava?
And pants, better support yourself

[Stas157]

Please answer the question! And where is the boasted Czech aircraft now? Does anyone buy them? Russia only bought a few l410 ... Czech planes will remain in the past, and soon they will be completely forgotten. So the USSR bought them precisely to keep the Czechs in trousers, that is, for political reasons, and not because they themselves could not do better! Time puts everything in its place.

[polite people]

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new aviation technology especially must be run in Syria .. while there is an opportunity and do not hesitate to professionally promote it .. and there people will stretch ..

Already run in.

[sabakina]

YASHA is primarily TRAINING, and then COMBAT. If we teach Syrians in Russia, will the quality of education suffer from this? This is not just a "flying desk", it is a complete simulation of combat, which can simulate various types of aircraft.
My view of the layman on aviation.

[fedotow]

"YASHA is, first of all, STUDY ..."

Not certainly in that way. Here you go: firm Yak squeezed from the cake. Only the order for the training machine was torn off. But itches. What they came up with. Out of the blue, and for the money received on order, they developed a flying rat. A small airplane, with a huge thrust-weight ratio (two engines from large, real fighters). Yes, even a modular design. During the night it can be converted into a small, but real, modern attack aircraft, bomber or interceptor.

The expectation is that any third world country that cannot afford airplanes will be able to buy "Kalashnikov aircraft". And at least knock down everyone who sticks into the air. and if you pay extra for additional modules, then strike.

[pilot bin-bom]

Who is in the subject? Infa slipped on the network that they would make an attack drone based on the Yak-130.

[Olegovi4]

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Yak-130 will make a shock drone

Yes, songwriters have already been talking about strategic drones)))))

[Mera joota]

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Who is in the subject? Infa slipped on the network that they would make an attack drone based on the Yak-130.

I didn’t hear about the drone, but they are working on (or worked on) the strike version. It just seems like no concept has yet been upset judging by this absurdity:

[fedotow]

"Who is in the subject? The infa leaked on the network that an attack drone will be made on the basis of the Yak-130."

Why guess something? The developer immediately announced that the possibility of using an unmanned version was originally incorporated into the design. It is of modular design.

[propolsky]

The plane is good and will be interesting to many countries, and at the same time it will fly in different climatic conditions. Subsequent improvements will be even better.

[Alex Nick]

Flying school desk, that's all.

[Mik-51]

Here I read a lot of experts.
I remember - before and during the Second World War II, as soon as they did not call me - Rus plywood, a flying box, etc., etc., etc., etc.
We had a teacher at the bombing department of the Rappoport submarine, blessed with his memory - I flew into the regiment of night bombers throughout the Po-2 war.
They also said that you can shoot down a slingshot.
Yes - you can shoot down, especially with modern air defense.
But!
If applied where necessary and as it should, then this bird can also do a lot of harm to the thief.
And do not give me theoretical delights - I’m a practitioner, I had to bomb and throw rubber bands from my underpants.

[Manul]

Quote: mik-51

Here I read a lot of experts.
I remember - before and during the Second World War II, as soon as they did not call me - Rus plywood, a flying box, etc., etc., etc., etc.
We had a teacher at the bombing department of the Rappoport submarine, blessed with his memory - I flew into the regiment of night bombers throughout the Po-2 war.
They also said that you can shoot down a slingshot.
Yes - you can shoot down, especially with modern air defense.
But!
If applied where necessary and as it should, then this bird can also do a lot of harm to the thief.
And do not give me theoretical delights - I’m a practitioner, I had to bomb and throw rubber bands from my underpants.

And what, Po-2 were used because of their exclusivity? Or was it because there was nothing to fight, the choice was small?
Comparison with Po-2 is very successful on your part. Both are training. So you suggest that the Yak-130 should also be used? At night, and navigate the bombing by flashes of anti-aircraft guns (navigator)?
Or maybe still leave him training, and send Su-34 on a mission? (Sorry to be ironic, I could not resist.)

[guest arbeiter]

I don’t get into the topic ... The son dragged two suitcases: large and small. In the small one, the sight is 43 cm long. In the big one, I don’t know ... Android rules me all the time ...
The son has been staying at home for 3 weeks ... Mother is happy! They passed the product!
Before that, he had no days off!
Just 10 months!
It's funny, but the son believes that dad is no longer an engineer!
Well yes! Sure! In England and Germany did not study ...
My son happened ...

[Ruby]

If a country can afford to take a combat training vehicle for 15 million, then it has someone to teach and what to fly on combat missions. Other Honduras will buy for that kind of money, or 2-3 new Su25s, which are an order of magnitude superior to Yak as an attack aircraft, or they’ll find some in the market, such as F5 or the Chinese.

[Termit1309]

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How many Czech ZLIN sports planes were in the USSR flying clubs?
Are you familiar with the acrobatic world champion Zlín Z-50?
Do you know that some states, friends of the USSR, bought Czechoslovak planes instead of Soviet ones?
Especially after 1989
What do you know about the Czechoslovak Let L-200 Morava?
And pants, better support yourself

It was ... they bought ... All your successes were part of the CMEA, and with the support of your USSR aircraft industry. At the time of the choice of Czechoslovakia as the country of manufacture of TCBs in the USSR, at least the worst ones were created.
Actually now neither the country of Czechoslovakia nor its aircraft industry is now there. About the factory where the Russians make L-410 for Russia, please do not write, it's ridiculous.
And without the USSR, they were not in the last places
Where are you now without the USSR?