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If not for the generals ... Shameful history of the Ukrainian army

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History Ukrainian army - one of the most disgraceful in world history. Being plundered, filled with rogues, alcoholics, criminals - she, under the leadership of inept and thieving generals, became a disorganized horde of cowardly punishers.


This article will not be lengthy reasoning. Just the facts. Those that were accessible to everyone, but systematized and set out together with explanations.

As they said in the USSR - "The people and the army are one". Later, during the years of perestroika, an explanation emerged that the army is the essence of a concentrated expression of society, its slice. But if the sober-minded part of Ukrainians still resist moral degradation and obydlivlyanii long ago turned into a bunch of lumpen under the control of inveterate bastards.

And, if such an army, according to apologists of Maidan, "Glory!", then, I wonder, for what? For the atrocities, failures and useless death in numerous "boilers"? For the fact that the Ukrainian army has not won a single victory, all the time suffering defeat? For the fact that the armed congregation of misery (APU) is fully responsible external managers?














































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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 4 November 2015 05: 55 New
    +20
    Of all this rabble, three are known to me:

    Two were remembered exclusively for “military valor and feat,” and the third was nonsense about chebureshki.

    Threat.
    Another of them told about a nuclear strike at Donetsk airport ...
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 4 November 2015 06: 18 New
      +29
      And I really remember the "signing" of the oath by Illovaisky.
      Well, what a signature under oath, such and its execution.
    2. science fiction writer
      science fiction writer 4 November 2015 06: 19 New
      +7
      The history of the Ukrainian army is one of the most shameful in world history.

      There is no army in this Ukraine, there is only a gang of gallows. am am
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      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 4 November 2015 08: 47 New
        +19
        Excellent analytical material, excellent photo compilation, now dill is hoping for the help of mattresses, so nothing has been finished yet, God forbid that would end like this.
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    4. Finches
      Finches 4 November 2015 11: 58 New
      +1
      Colorful analysis, but still - the scope is not the same! They lack one very effective manager-reformer ... Why shouldn’t he go to Ukraine, as many "worthy" people did? All the same, not Khuhra-Mukhra, but the strongest army in Europe .... laughing
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 4 November 2015 12: 37 New
        0
        Everything is colorful. But these comrades have not yet been cleared out of the state of exacerbation of the disease. Financial assistance does not go to support the economy, but also to war. Equipment is being repaired, weapons are being purchased, the fleet is being restored ... so that they can and again rush into the attack. These people do not mind their compatriots. One hope is that the people, tired of this bacchanalia, simply will not rise to a new fratricide.
    5. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 4 November 2015 12: 33 New
      0
      The army is fighting not for a just cause and cannot defeat its people.
      Sorry for them!
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 4 November 2015 14: 45 New
        +1
        But this is just the tip of the iceberg. The foundation was laid back in the nineties, when the generals began to sell really extremely powerful Ukrainian army to the whole megaparty. After all, once the entire carrier fleet belonged to Ukraine, a laser ship, nuclear weapons ... More than 900 helicopters alone, strategic aviation ... And now the army of Klamyna looks pitiful and ridiculous. Unlike Russia, it retained its main trump cards.
  2. domokl
    domokl 4 November 2015 06: 07 New
    +10
    Great visuals. Intelligent and reasoned.
    1. RU-Officer
      RU-Officer 4 November 2015 08: 20 New
      +3
      I agree. yes +++++ "Smart" presentation of the best army in the world. belay
      God spare the continuation of such materials ... stop
  3. moskowit
    moskowit 4 November 2015 06: 09 New
    +5
    The well-known Russian proverb "To whom is war, to whom is mother kindred" ... If a number of de-b-lovs lack the intelligence to "earn" business, then these bastards build their "prosperity" on blood!
  4. svskor80
    svskor80 4 November 2015 06: 10 New
    +5
    Shameful clowns seized upon uncontrolled power. Where only people come from who crap, crap, crap, and they are higher and higher. By the way, it also applies to Russia.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 November 2015 06: 21 New
    +4
    Thanks to the author for a clear and clear presentation of the facts. The Ukrainian army really became punitive, and against its people. And the generals responsible for war crimes sooner or later, but must be held criminally liable.
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 5 November 2015 01: 09 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Ukrainian army really became punitive, and against its people

      That's how it is. But the APU itself is to blame for all this, at least not correctly. The army itself is not at war with anyone. She is given orders (sometimes criminal) and she carries them out as far as possible.
      In principle, the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, I was very reminded of our first Chechen campaign. Hurray patriots can salivate as much as they like, but a look at these pictures is almost a look into our recent past.
  6. EvgNik
    EvgNik 4 November 2015 06: 22 New
    +3
    Of course, all this is familiar, we have been observing this for almost two years, day after day, but the overall picture is impressive. Thank you for the great work done on systematization. I think that will be the basis for textbooks on the history of the civil war in Ukraine.
  7. svp67
    svp67 4 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +1
    If not for the generals ... Shameful history of the Ukrainian army
    Well, they found the guilty ... Apparently, so that there would be no more "shame", then in Ukraine it is worth abolishing the rank of general. And someone thinks this will help? There will be no "generals", there will be "chieftains", "fathers", "general coronets" ... There is a CIVIL WAR, at the same time there is a war between the "village" and the "city", the "young and energetic" are trying to throw off the "old elite" and they get it and they EVERYTHING IS EASY HOW MUCH FOR IT SHOULD BE SILL OF ANOTHER BLOOD.
    1. BLOND
      BLOND 4 November 2015 07: 40 New
      0
      ... alas, there is a third world war — the United States is trying to drag a noose around Russia (its hybrid beginning, if it so pleases), Ukraine was sold offal, and Donbass could not do this (well, not our hero Bandera)
  8. antikilller55
    antikilller55 4 November 2015 07: 34 New
    +3
    But what kind of army is this, a rabble of whips, maniacs and punishers. The American regime in Kiev will change and half of this army will be broken in all directions from justice for its "affairs" from the rank and file to the minister.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 November 2015 09: 48 New
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      B / Ukrainian army is a hodgepodge of thugs, drunks, drug addicts, loafers and a lesson - Parashenko’s puff cake.
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 5 November 2015 01: 14 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        B / Ukrainian army is a hodgepodge of thugs, drunks, drug addicts, idlers

        Well, I understand there are kindly mercenaries, mercenaries and other rumors, but why write down ordinary conscripted soldiers and conscripts in scumbags. If you are now drafted into the army and sent to battle - will you also consider every order of your commander? What if he is criminal? No need to generalize. In Donetsk, different categories of prisoners were treated differently. Natsik one thing, but the ordinary military is completely different.
    2. Alekseits
      Alekseits 4 November 2015 10: 15 New
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      There is no need to talk about any justice there. And it will not take many years, even after the "change of the American regime."
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    4. Your friend
      Your friend 4 November 2015 12: 20 New
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      Quote: antikilller55
      But what kind of army is this, a rabble of whips, maniacs and punishers. The American regime in Kiev will change and half of this army will be broken in all directions from justice for its "affairs" from the rank and file to the minister.

      Come on. All of them will be well repainted, and will yell at all crossroads, how they were for the Russian World, how they fought the Bender regime at the risk of their lives and generally love the GDP wholeheartedly.
  9. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 4 November 2015 07: 49 New
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    Gypsy international brigade panimash, together with a pedal-driven circus plus gypsy Olympic games in one bottle. The result is the fifth army on the continent, in the accounting department of the captain of the check ... PEREMOGA.
  10. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 November 2015 08: 00 New
    0
    "National Security Committee ..." Well, muzzles ... It's time to issue a deck of cards, as in Iraq ...
  11. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 4 November 2015 08: 13 New
    +7
    I don’t know how generals are, but the fact that our special services have missed preparations for a coup in Ukraine is a fact. I still don’t understand how it turned out that all the key posts in Ukraine (during the reign of Yanukovych) were in the hands of the Americans, okay, everything was clear there with the SBU, but they could have shared information with the same Yanukovych, his administration, and those people which have not yet come under US control. But alas, we lost there, and the punitive operation against the Donbass is already the consequences of those events (Maidan). Of course, our media and experts do not like to remember this, but the CIS space is included in our area of ​​responsibility and touches on the security issues of the Russian Federation, so in the future we need to take more responsible approach to such issues, otherwise we will have to deal with the consequences that we now see in Ukraine.
    1. Your friend
      Your friend 4 November 2015 12: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      I don’t know how generals are, but the fact that our special services have missed preparations for a coup in Ukraine is a fact. I still don’t understand how it turned out that all the key posts in Ukraine (during the reign of Yanukovych) were in the hands of the Americans, okay, everything was clear there with the SBU, but they could have shared information with the same Yanukovych, his administration, and those people which have not yet come under US control. But alas, we lost there, and the punitive operation against the Donbass is already the consequences of those events (Maidan). Of course, our media and experts do not like to remember this, but the CIS space is included in our area of ​​responsibility and touches on the security issues of the Russian Federation, so in the future we need to take more responsible approach to such issues, otherwise we will have to deal with the consequences that we now see in Ukraine.

      Seriously? Yanukovych was not under US control? Wasn’t he the first to “associate” Ukraine with Europe? Shame that this city is located on our territory.
      The fault of the GDP, its entourage, the Russian embassy in Ukraine is that they did not create and did not finance Russian parties, pro-Russian NPOs in Ukraine, but hoped for patsan’s “agreements” with Yyur Yanukovych. The same situation is now in Belarus.
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 4 November 2015 15: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: Your friend

        Seriously? Yanukovych was not under US control? Wasn’t he the first to “associate” Ukraine with Europe? Shame that this city is located on our territory.
        The fault of the GDP, its entourage, the Russian embassy in Ukraine is that they did not create and did not finance Russian parties, pro-Russian NPOs in Ukraine, but hoped for patsan’s “agreements” with Yyur Yanukovych. The same situation is now in Belarus.


        Was Yanukovych controlled by the USA? The point then was to arrange a maidan if they already have a president in their pocket? No, Yanukovych was not under US control, he was a rag, a vegetable, but he wasn’t such a puppet like Poroshenko. As for the financing of Russian parties in Ukraine, I agree, here we did not show the due zeal to defend our interests and did not finance NGOs, parties, etc. strategic miscalculation :(
        1. Oleko
          Oleko 4 November 2015 20: 45 New
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          Was Yanukovych controlled by the USA? The point then was to arrange a maidan if they already have a president in their pocket? No, Yanukovych was not under US control, he was a rag, a vegetable, but he wasn’t such a puppet like Poroshenko. As for the financing of Russian parties in Ukraine, I agree, here we did not show the due zeal to defend our interests and did not finance NGOs, parties, etc. strategic miscalculation :(

          Crimeans defended their interests. Crimea was a republic and had its own president. Ukrainians destroyed the republic and removed the president. Crimeans demanded recovery. They sent a "Golden Eagle" from the western regions. Those were doing chaos. They stopped the car, cut the seats.
          Unrest crushed. What Russian parties are you talking about? They would be destroyed immediately. Our leadership knew about the training of militants in the camps. And what could be done? Janek most of all did not want blood. And there was no one to lean on.
          1. Your friend
            Your friend 4 November 2015 23: 01 New
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            Quote: Oleko
            Was Yanukovych controlled by the USA? The point then was to arrange a maidan if they already have a president in their pocket? No, Yanukovych was not under US control, he was a rag, a vegetable, but he wasn’t such a puppet like Poroshenko. As for the financing of Russian parties in Ukraine, I agree, here we did not show the due zeal to defend our interests and did not finance NGOs, parties, etc. strategic miscalculation :(

            Crimeans defended their interests. Crimea was a republic and had its own president. Ukrainians destroyed the republic and removed the president. Crimeans demanded recovery. They sent a "Golden Eagle" from the western regions. Those were doing chaos. They stopped the car, cut the seats.
            Unrest crushed. What Russian parties are you talking about? They would be destroyed immediately. Our leadership knew about the training of militants in the camps. And what could be done? Janek most of all did not want blood. And there was no one to lean on.


            Of course of course. No Russian parties are in question. It is, because no one tried to create them. Eternal excuses to do nothing.
            Yanek ... is cowardly, and not "most of all did not want blood." He also leaked the first Maidan. There certainly wasn’t talking about any blood.
            1. Oleko
              Oleko 5 November 2015 00: 14 New
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              And the Party of Regions? Was in the majority in the Rada. Not Russian, but pro-Russian. Yanek "sat on two chairs": Russia and the USA. Here is his misfortune. Well, would he give the order to the “Golden Eagle” to shoot, would they fulfill it? Would the alarm be raised, would they rise?
              What does it mean "leaked the first maidan"? Honestly, I do not understand. And what is the Russian party in Ukraine, how do you see it? Your vision is very interesting.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend 5 November 2015 13: 07 New
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                Quote: Oleko
                And the Party of Regions? Was in the majority in the Rada. Not Russian, but pro-Russian. Yanek "sat on two chairs": Russia and the USA. Here is his misfortune. Well, would he give the order to the “Golden Eagle” to shoot, would they fulfill it? Would the alarm be raised, would they rise?
                What does it mean "leaked the first maidan"? Honestly, I do not understand. And what is the Russian party in Ukraine, how do you see it? Your vision is very interesting.

                What was the pro-Russian PR?
                So he didn’t give any order, so whether they would have executed or not, if the troops had risen or not, we don’t know. You see, gentlemen from the Maydan parties are not afraid of blood, but the yanyk, frankly not a saint, for some reason, as you said, "did not want blood." So we have what we have. Thousands of people killed in the east, burned in Odessa ...
                "merged the first Maidan" - this means he lost all his positions, agreed to the next round of elections. He also behaved in the second Maidan, only here everything ended in blood.
                How could Russia bet on this person?
                The Russian Party is a party that defends the interests of people in Ukraine, for whom there is a unity of the Russian and Ukrainian people, opposing the banderization of the history of Ukraine, for joining the CU, for closer integration of the economies of Russia and Ukraine ...
                How much money did the Russian authorities spend on creating pro-Russian sentiments in Ukraine, how much money was spent working with Ukrainians working in Russia, how many pro-Russian NGOs were created in Ukraine ...? For some reason, the West was not shy about throwing money at the maydauns, and an officer came. face app. governments to support ... And where were ours at that time?
                When Yanukovych fled, there was not a single organized pro-Russian force that could lead people, there was no skeleton on which people coming out on the squares of Kharkov, Odessa, Mariupol could lean. In any case, I do not know such power.
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                2. Oleko
                  Oleko 5 November 2015 19: 12 New
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                  I reread, I thought ... I washed the dishes, and the thoughts themselves are spinning. Father was born in Lugansk. ! ("No. Mr. He died without seeing this bacchanalia in Kiev, 27.12.2013/63/XNUMX. My grandmother is Ukrainian, and has lived all her life in Kiev on Dovnar-Zapolsky. Now there is no such street. Every summer my sister and I went to my grandmother. In Darnitsa our relatives lived, brother and sister and uncle. I’m XNUMX now. Why do I write. I remember that Ukraine. Now she’s different. Tom’s sister is disabled, her pension is small. Rates have been raised. To the brink of poverty. My mother often calls to Kiev, but God forbid, I can start talking about politics. My sister begins to get hysterical: “It’s your Putin’s fault.” My classmate Kolya Malashok brings this ... At the work of my wife, her director talked about his father, who lives in Donetsk and receives a pension from Russia, the guy’s eyes are round, they’re brainwashed. The party requires like-minded people. There aren’t those who are for Russia. My wife’s nephew in Odessa is older than her. It happens. They talk on Skype. They burned people? So what? Complete indifference .
                  But in the Crimea this was not. And the money was not needed. Not talking about Sevastopol. They said that pravoseki will enter the dead city. I heard firsthand. The organization of any Russian party was doomed to failure. It would exist, but purely fictitious. SBU also works for them. In the fight for the minds, we lost. States subtly played. Brains are thoroughly washed. Nearby is the shining EU, and behind are drunk quilted jackets, and dumbasses. Ukraine will fall apart anyway. She is doomed. I think so. Nice to chat with you. All the best.
                  1. Your friend
                    Your friend 5 November 2015 20: 25 New
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                    Quote: Oleko
                    I reread, I thought ... I washed the dishes, and the thoughts themselves are spinning. Father was born in Lugansk. ! ("No. Mr. He died without seeing this bacchanalia in Kiev, 27.12.2013/63/XNUMX. My grandmother is Ukrainian, and has lived all her life in Kiev on Dovnar-Zapolsky. Now there is no such street. Every summer my sister and I went to my grandmother. In Darnitsa our relatives lived, brother and sister and uncle. I’m XNUMX now. Why do I write. I remember that Ukraine. Now she’s different. Tom’s sister is disabled, her pension is small. Rates have been raised. To the brink of poverty. My mother often calls to Kiev, but God forbid, I can start talking about politics. My sister begins to get hysterical: “It’s your Putin’s fault.” My classmate Kolya Malashok brings this ... At the work of my wife, her director talked about his father, who lives in Donetsk and receives a pension from Russia, the guy’s eyes are round, they’re brainwashed. The party requires like-minded people. There aren’t those who are for Russia. My wife’s nephew in Odessa is older than her. It happens. They talk on Skype. They burned people? So what? Complete indifference .
                    But in the Crimea this was not. And the money was not needed. Not talking about Sevastopol. They said that pravoseki will enter the dead city. I heard firsthand. The organization of any Russian party was doomed to failure. It would exist, but purely fictitious. SBU also works for them. In the fight for the minds, we lost. States subtly played. Brains are thoroughly washed. Nearby is the shining EU, and behind are drunk quilted jackets, and dumbasses. Ukraine will fall apart anyway. She is doomed. I think so. Nice to chat with you. All the best.

                    I have the same. All Ukrainian relatives - "Kiselyov, quilted jackets, kill ...". I told them, I don’t want about politics, they don’t continue, you won’t stop ... For a year now we haven’t been talking.
                    Previously, Russia had to start; in the beginning of 2000, not everything was lost.
                    And in the Crimea, if not for the Russian troops, you will not understand what would have been there. (((
                    Good luck to you too. Happily.
            2. Oleko
              Oleko 5 November 2015 00: 14 New
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              And the Party of Regions? Was in the majority in the Rada. Not Russian, but pro-Russian. Yanek "sat on two chairs": Russia and the USA. Here is his misfortune. Well, would he give the order to the “Golden Eagle” to shoot, would they fulfill it? Would the alarm be raised, would they rise?
              What does it mean "leaked the first maidan"? Honestly, I do not understand. And what is the Russian party in Ukraine, how do you see it? Your vision is very interesting.
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        3. Your friend
          Your friend 4 November 2015 21: 36 New
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          Quote: Aleksandr21
          Quote: Your friend

          Seriously? Yanukovych was not under US control? Wasn’t he the first to “associate” Ukraine with Europe? Shame that this city is located on our territory.
          The fault of the GDP, its entourage, the Russian embassy in Ukraine is that they did not create and did not finance Russian parties, pro-Russian NPOs in Ukraine, but hoped for patsan’s “agreements” with Yyur Yanukovych. The same situation is now in Belarus.


          Was Yanukovych controlled by the USA? The point then was to arrange a maidan if they already have a president in their pocket? No, Yanukovych was not under US control, he was a rag, a vegetable, but he wasn’t such a puppet like Poroshenko. As for the financing of Russian parties in Ukraine, I agree, here we did not show the due zeal to defend our interests and did not finance NGOs, parties, etc. strategic miscalculation :(

          Of course he was a puppet, otherwise he would not have behaved the way he behaved during their ride. He simply won back his waste material. The United States does this to many, remember Mubarak.
  12. deo75
    deo75 4 November 2015 08: 51 New
    +3
    Well done author, laid out everything on the shelves!
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2015 08: 55 New
    +2
    The crime was the use of the army on its territory against its people. This is not an army, but a rabble. Well, rabble needs appropriate management. The best army of Europe! Three times ku.
  14. akudr48
    akudr48 4 November 2015 09: 34 New
    +3
    The history of the Ukrainian army is one of the most shameful in world history.

    Maybe so, such an army is shameful and bad.

    But for Russia, for the Crimea, for the Donbass, such an U.K.R.W.W.W.A.A.I army is very good, otherwise there would have been much more blood spilled.

    Way further f.k.r. have such a u.c.d. the army!
  15. Yar Ga
    Yar Ga 4 November 2015 09: 49 New
    +8
    The review lacks Slavyansk, Lysychansk, Lugansk airport.
    I do not agree with many haters. The low combat capability of Ukrmia is due to a number of reasons. At the same time, a number of units have high stability. Do not underestimate the enemy. This is the first step to defeat.
    1. Good me
      Good me 4 November 2015 11: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Yar Ha
      I do not agree with many haters. The low combat capability of Ukrmia is due to a number of reasons. At the same time, a number of units have high stability. Do not underestimate the enemy. This is the first step to defeat.


      Also, I can not completely share the message of your comment. Given the existing, to one degree or another, combat ready ukroarmiya, it is necessary to take into account the ability of the Donbass militia to be very active in counteracting.

      A prerequisite for the defeat of the republics can only be, in one form or another, a "stab in the back", which, I hope, "responsible comrades" will not dare.

      WE, RUSSIA, do not understand them ...
    2. Marconi41
      Marconi41 5 November 2015 01: 17 New
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      Quote: Yar Ha
      Do not underestimate the enemy. This is the first step to defeat.

      Absolutely right! And the fact that the borders of the LPR and the DPR do not extend beyond the borders of the former administrative borders is proof of this.
  16. verb
    verb 4 November 2015 09: 55 New
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    Someday the book "Shameful History of Ukraine" will appear. Or "History of shameful Ukraine."
  17. Indifferent
    Indifferent 4 November 2015 09: 57 New
    -3
    Note, all generals of Ukraine are Soviet sourdough. They learned to steal under Gorbachev.
  18. Mantykora
    Mantykora 4 November 2015 10: 50 New
    +3
    Well, funny faces - there is degradation (and on the face too)
    Most finished off "Deputy Defense Minister for European Integration"

    Quote: Yar Ha
    The review lacks Slavyansk, Lysychansk, Lugansk airport.
    I do not agree with many haters. The low combat capability of Ukrmia is due to a number of reasons. At the same time, a number of units have high stability. Do not underestimate the enemy. This is the first step to defeat.

    Also looked for Slavyansk ... I completely agree on the cap-hatred. The bad news is that the ukrobanda was still a little combat-ready. But there was no good organization and supply of the militia - at the beginning it was always like that. And now I think parity.
  19. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 4 November 2015 11: 11 New
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    Good material, considerable selection work. Thanks to the author.
  20. givigor71
    givigor71 4 November 2015 11: 15 New
    +3
    without words...
  21. kotvov
    kotvov 4 November 2015 11: 26 New
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    I completely agree about cap-bailing. ,,
    I don’t think that these, former militias, are present, now the Armed Forces of the republics know the value of this army. And I hope they don’t stop in the event of a mess.
  22. Prutkov
    Prutkov 4 November 2015 11: 32 New
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    The numbers do not hit. If we add up the number of losses on slide 23, then 24000 killed will not work.
  23. Kilo-11
    Kilo-11 4 November 2015 11: 55 New
    +6
    The material is curious. As a propaganda material it draws only to a solid "troika". It is not clear who the author is. On page 32 it is indicated that the number of the RF Armed Forces in 2015 is 1 million 200 thousand people. makes up 1 million military personnel, the list is approximately 850 thousand military personnel. On page 9 it is indicated that about 10 thousand military personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were surrounded in the area of ​​Debaltseve, on page 23 casualties in the Ukrainian Armed Forces are given including in the region of the city of Debaltseve, 3 soldiers were killed, 6300 servicemen were injured, that is, only 700 servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces remained safe and sound during the fighting in the region of Debaltseve. In my opinion, it somehow does not correspond to reality. It turns out that practically the completely Ukrainian armed forces group in the region of Debaltseve was disabled, and who then resisted and broke out of the encirclement? Yes, and break out of the encirclement with 6300 wounded, of whom, by definition, approximately 2100 should be they were seriously injured somehow not by hand. Well, and so the rumor on page 40 indicates that the children of Ukrainian officials did not participate in the punitive operation against the DPR and LPR. It is not free to recall that the children of our officials and generals a very rare exception, the same did not occur during the time of both the Caucasian campaigns or in the war of August 2008, and even now, among our volunteers in the Donbass and in Syria, people with famous surnames somehow do not meet. The wives and daughters of our officials were not seen in as sisters of mercy in military hospitals as it was during the years of World War I, when ladies and girls with well-known noble families served in military hospitals, and the Grand Duchesses not only served, but also organized military hospitals under their patronage.
  24. Kolovrat88
    Kolovrat88 4 November 2015 12: 45 New
    -4
    That's right. The Ukrainian army has many problems. It was mercilessly plundered during independence, it often has incompetent leadership, outdated equipment. BUT !!! Pieces of Lugansk and Donetsk region are the maximum that it gave way to the project of the so-called Novorosiya. Donetsk airport defense became a symbol of courage and the heroism of the Ukrainian military.
    "DAP is our Thermopylae, our Pavlov’s House. The Ukrainian Warriors held the defense for 242 days, preventing the occupant from moving with impunity a meter into the depths of our land. The GAP was defended side-by-side by the Donetsk residents with Galicians, special forces and volunteers, yesterday’s teachers and businessmen. "
    Despite all that Ukrainian society shows consolidation, volunteers who help the army, to put it mildly low salaries, evoke sincere respect.
    1. crumb
      crumb 4 November 2015 18: 39 New
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      DAP is your insanity, how can you call occupants of people living on Donetsk land ?! Galicians are just occupants!
    2. Your friend
      Your friend 4 November 2015 21: 37 New
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      Quote: Kolovrat88
      That's right. The Ukrainian army has many problems. It was mercilessly plundered during independence, it often has incompetent leadership, outdated equipment. BUT !!! Pieces of Lugansk and Donetsk region are the maximum that it gave way to the project of the so-called Novorosiya. Donetsk airport defense became a symbol of courage and the heroism of the Ukrainian military.
      "DAP is our Thermopylae, our Pavlov’s House. The Ukrainian Warriors held the defense for 242 days, preventing the occupant from moving with impunity a meter into the depths of our land. The GAP was defended side-by-side by the Donetsk residents with Galicians, special forces and volunteers, yesterday’s teachers and businessmen. "
      Despite all that Ukrainian society shows consolidation, volunteers who help the army, to put it mildly low salaries, evoke sincere respect.

      Super stuffing.)))
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 5 November 2015 00: 36 New
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        Quote: Your friend
        Super stuffing.)))

        Yes, and even the nickname was stuck, in his wretched opinion, the most Russian-ultra-patriotic ... Come on, enough nerds.
  25. Evgtan
    Evgtan 4 November 2015 13: 22 New
    +2
    The Ukrainian army is not among the five strongest armies, even in Ukraine itself.
  26. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 4 November 2015 14: 10 New
    +2
    If only the generals .... One person is familiar to me. Together they graduated from the school, in one group they studied. Then after TurkVO he transferred to Akhtubinsk, they also served there together, at least in different units. In 1992, those wishing to transfer to the Armed Forces of Ukraine moved there, who did not want to take the Ukrainian oath, either quit or were transferred to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. We were transferred to the department of two majors from the training regiment of the Kharkov Flight School. So this shot was not translated into Ukraine, successfully quit the RF Armed Forces with the rank of lieutenant colonel .... he left for Kiev. Now an ardent ukronatsik. I looked at his Facebook page .. Mama Do not Cry. There shit on Russia and its sun just does not pour. So I think that you bastard took the Soviet Oath, served in the Russian Army ... what are you ... doing.
    1. Lekov L
      Lekov L 4 November 2015 19: 41 New
      +1
      He is likely to receive a Russian pension.
      Direct benefit.
  27. bumerang.
    bumerang. 4 November 2015 14: 49 New
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    Shameful glory of Ukraine. And Shame on the whole of Ukraine that this is allowed in their country.
  28. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 4 November 2015 23: 46 New
    +3
    Perhaps there are errors in the numbers ... But anyway, thanks to the author for the work done.
    After the article, there was a double feeling ... yes, they seem to have many dead, crippled, missing ...
    But on the other hand, these are fascists ... the real ones ... In these very seconds, when I write these lines, they shoot at peaceful houses ... Murderers, thieves, rapists ... Scum who overthrew the previous government, ruined its a state ready to slaughter and burn anyone with foam at the mouth, choosing rulers of foreigners and its freaks as thieves, rejoicing in the death of innocent people ...
    Someone said that the people have rulers. Whom they deserve ... And I will add that life will have the same that they deserve.
    You can certainly say that there are simple, deceived people ... so what?
    And they were in the Wehrmacht ... and nobody sorted them there.
    The very irony in their fate ... the collapse continues, and Ukraine will not live normally very soon ... they just did not fully realize it ...
  29. Wolka
    Wolka 5 November 2015 08: 33 New
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    interesting statistics however ...
  30. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 13 November 2015 17: 58 New
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    how many people put for the sake of the ambitions of the staff
  31. Leon525
    Leon525 1 June 2017 14: 50 New
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    There is nothing to say here, in this situation, it’s still great and yes, the Schobes goy Schöcklgruber Hitler, the main Aryan of Germany in the Third Reich, said he had chopped off - the war would continue until the last German. But the Germans then remained, but the Führer already did not care ... So sho, as Ilgich Ulyanov grilled, they say the repetition is the mother of the doctrine, which we observe today.