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Russian armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and BTR-82 on the Syrian front

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Until recently, the Syrian military practically did not use wheeled armored personnel carriers after they abandoned the Soviet BTR-60PB and Czechoslovak O-64 and switched to using tracked BMP-1 and BMP-2. "Messenger of Mordovia".


Russian armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and BTR-82 on the Syrian front


“In 90-s, a significant number of BTR-60PB and OT-64 were withdrawn from the troops to the storage bases. The equipment needed to be repaired and modernized, and the Syrians, who had lost military assistance because of the collapse of the USSR and the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, simply had no money, ”the material notes.

By the beginning of the civil war and the intensification of terrorist groups, most of the wheeled armored personnel carriers remaining in the government forces had fallen into disrepair. The Syrian military began to receive new wheeled armored vehicles only at the beginning of last year. A batch of 30 BTR-80 was used to guard the columns transporting chemical weapon in the process of its destruction.

For a long time, there were no reports of the use of the BTR-80, however, at the end of October, one of these vehicles got into the report with the front line along with a tank T-55 and the "Solntsepek" flamethrower system. Recently, Russian BTR-80s also lit up in the Latakia region. In August 2015, more modern BTR-82s, which the Russian Federation delivered to the Syrian military a few months earlier, joined the fighting.



“Military experts positively estimate the supply of new equipment to the Syrian army, however, in their opinion, it would be good if these armored vehicles received anti-cumulated lattice screens. Such a measure would significantly increase the security of the armored personnel carrier and increase the chances of preserving the lives of the Syrian fighters fighting against them, ”the article notes.

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  1. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 3 November 2015 11: 52 New
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    To develop some kind of mounted armor for the BTR-82 in order to increase the survival of the machine. Something like hinged containers like Kurganz-25 on the sides.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 3 November 2015 11: 56 New
      +1
      "Solntsepek" in Syria? Am I missing something?
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 3 November 2015 11: 58 New
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        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        "Solntsepek" in Syria? Am I missing something?

        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 3 November 2015 13: 16 New
          +2
          Strange, I thought that only Iraq had been set ... Glad for comrades.
        2. k174oun7
          k174oun7 3 November 2015 23: 07 New
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          It is noticeable that the "Solntsepek" launcher was not leveled before firing. Hence, it is difficult to perform elevation guidance. Is it possible aimed shooting from such a position? The plot shows that the volley hit the foot of the hill. Usually, a position is set up at the top. What do the artillerymen think about this - aimed shooting or simply in the direction of the enemy?
      2. Smoked
        Smoked 3 November 2015 11: 59 New
        +5
        Yes, about three weeks ago. Based on the T-72.
    2. Smoked
      Smoked 3 November 2015 11: 57 New
      0
      For starters, it would be nice to take into account the high saturation of ATGMs among militants, which can fly from 5 km and not be substituted. And then to look on YouTube as the harness of the next armor of the Syrian army is already tired.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 November 2015 12: 16 New
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        Quote: Smoked
        For starters, it would be nice to take into account the high saturation of ATGM among militants

        Are you giving advice to anyone now? - Syrian soldiers who have been in the trenches for four years now? Excuse me, where did you participate?
        1. Down House
          Down House 3 November 2015 12: 20 New
          +9
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Are you giving advice to anyone now? - Syrian soldiers who have been in the trenches for four years now?

          They are sitting. So what? The soldiers of all the defeated armies were in the trenches, if they are at war it does not mean that they know how to fight.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 November 2015 13: 40 New
            +3
            Quote: Down House
            They are sitting. So what?

            And the fact that they have more combat experience than some keyboard specialists.
            Quote: Down House
            The soldiers of all the defeated armies were in the trenches,

            The soldiers of the victorious armies were also in the trenches, then what?
        2. Smoked
          Smoked 3 November 2015 12: 33 New
          +1
          This is my personal opinion about the feeling of what I see. Such experienced people are sitting in a trench, armor in a caponier is near, and here a hop with 5 km flies into the ATGM tower. From such a video, YouTube already bursts.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 November 2015 13: 41 New
            +5
            Quote: Smoked
            Such experienced sit in a trench, armor in a caponier is near and here a hop with 5 km flies into the ATGM tower

            Well, give advice on how to get from ATGM. At the same time, in the Pentagon, Moscow and Tel Aviv they will listen to you, otherwise we all have one problem - the tanks are on fire.
            1. Leks69Rus
              Leks69Rus 3 November 2015 14: 40 New
              +1
              In the second Chechnya, as they did without loss of tanks, 2 pieces were lost, although in the first they were burned by 10 cars.
        3. lelikas
          lelikas 3 November 2015 12: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Are you giving advice to anyone now? - Syrian soldiers who have been in the trenches for four years now? Excuse me, where did you participate?

          I do not want to teach warring soldiers how to shoot tanks and convoys in a video, evokes vague doubts. Where snipers could easily cover them - this is not. And we learned the methodology of urban fighting at 45 meters, and then repeated it in a new way in Chechnya, and I think the Syrians should have been enough for several years.
      2. Leks69Rus
        Leks69Rus 3 November 2015 14: 37 New
        +1
        I can’t believe in these 5 km, 5 km is a very large distance, for pointing the tou you need direct good visibility. I think heights where at 5km everything is in the palm of your hand and without cover how much they lie. And if there is nothing to use equipment there without art preparation for aviation and drones.
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    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 3 November 2015 12: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      To develop some kind of mounted armor for the BTR-82 in order to increase the survival of the machine. Something like hinged containers like Kurganz-25 on the sides.

      Dear colleague, in order to hang the containers on the sides like the Kurganets, it is necessary to bring the armor thickness to Kurganets, because it is impossible to place ERA on the BTR-80 and other similar vehicles, and then it will already be Kurganets-25 "and not the BTR-80 or -82A.

      Something like that, colleague. hi
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 3 November 2015 14: 53 New
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        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        Dear colleague, in order to hang the containers on the sides like the Kurganets, it is necessary to bring the armor thickness to Kurganets, because it is impossible to place ERA on the BTR-80 and other similar vehicles, and then it will already be Kurganets-25 "and not the BTR-80 or -82A.

        Something like that, colleague.

        Yes, it’s not about dynamic protection, but about the location like Kurganets-25, depleted uranium, composite armor, etc. etc. can be placed in containers. The survival rate of combat vehicles from the usual RPG-7 will increase dramatically.
    4. tomket
      tomket 3 November 2015 13: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      To develop some kind of mounted armor for the BTR-82 to increase

      Remote sensing systems for light armored vehicles are not installed due to the fact that it destroys both the projectile and the armor of the armored vehicle itself.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 3 November 2015 13: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: tomket
        , and the armor of the armored car itself.

        Yesterday, the article was about trellis screens on Belarusian armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 3 November 2015 14: 51 New
        -1
        Quote: tomket
        Remote sensing systems for light armored vehicles are not installed due to the fact that it destroys both the projectile and the armor of the armored vehicle itself.

        I didn’t mean dynamic protection, like Kurganets-25, I meant the location, the containers may have composite armor, depleted uranium, etc.
        1. Rader
          Rader 3 November 2015 21: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          Quote: tomket
          Remote sensing systems for light armored vehicles are not installed due to the fact that it destroys both the projectile and the armor of the armored vehicle itself.

          I didn’t mean dynamic protection, like Kurganets-25, I meant the location, the containers may have composite armor, depleted uranium, etc.

          Installation of add. booking a BTR 80 is not possible without a major upgrade (comparable to building another car)
          What kind of add. armor (just armor plates or modules) increases the mass of the car. Will the undercarriage elements withstand such a load? - I doubt it. Will the APC mobility decrease? - Definitely yes. Why torture a car and try to make a tank out of it (or BMP)? But the anti-cultivation lattices still didn’t prevent ...
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 3 November 2015 11: 52 New
    +9
    Assad needs any help right now like air! And the screens can put in place.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 3 November 2015 12: 05 New
      +1
      Yes, here’s not every one: Assad has a large deficit in the army personnel.
  3. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 3 November 2015 11: 52 New
    +3
    with additional protection, a great thing ... ideally, hang a "curtain" on them and, as the author correctly noted, protection against cumulative missiles and a very efficient and fast apparatus comes out
    1. swan
      swan 3 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +6
      The curtain, it seems, costs more than the armored personnel carrier itself.

      No need to invent anything. An armored personnel carrier is just an armored truck. Armored from small arms. It simply should not be where the place is for tanks or d (h) otam.
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 3 November 2015 11: 53 New
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    Technical characteristics of BTR-82A
    Wheel formula 8x8
    Combat weight 16 000 kg
    Length 7580 mm
    2985 width mm
    Height 3025 mm
    Track 2440 mm
    Clearance 475 mm
    Engine power 300 hp
    The maximum speed on the highway is 100 km / h
    Cruising on the highway 600 km
    Cruising on a dirt road 200 - 500 km
    Gradeability 30 degrees
    Maximum side roll 25 degrees
    Overcoming ditch 2 m
    Overcome wall 0,5 m
    Speed ​​afloat 9 km / h
    Time afloat 12 hours

    BTR-82A has modern cardan shafts with end splines, shock absorbers of increased energy intensity and, importantly, new wheel gearboxes (Soviet gearboxes had birth defects due to the use of fundamentally outdated global gears).

    BTR-82A patency is also increased due to the use of drive axles in the transmission with a gear-locked differential, and the lock is completely compulsory (the principle of operation is the same as in all-wheel drive vehicles). To increase the life of the transfer case, the principle of constant gear engagement is used in it.

    And the gun is what you need.

    In general, progress is evident
  5. venaya
    venaya 3 November 2015 11: 54 New
    +6
    In August 2015, more modern ones joined the fighting BTR-82

    Last modification. And where else can you test for combat suitability? Theory is one thing, practice is quite another, it always reveals strengths and weaknesses, as we need.
  6. Mirrorfax
    Mirrorfax 3 November 2015 12: 19 New
    +1
    It is necessary for them to throw electronic warfare 1L262 "Mercury BM", and then they simply will not need to hang anything.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsGvNWTzvgQ
    1. ASK505
      ASK505 3 November 2015 13: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Mirrorfax
      It is necessary for them to throw electronic warfare 1L262 "Mercury BM", and then they simply will not need to hang anything.


      Urgently take a pencil and paper and write to the General Staff. This important thought was probably missed there.
  7. rennim
    rennim 3 November 2015 12: 25 New
    +2
    The armored personnel carriers are designed to transport salvos or ammunition with equipment. Also, other special equipment is being created on the basis of the armored personnel carrier. Using armored personnel carriers in combat or in places of high probability is the same as negligent commanders during the Second World War sent SU-76 instead of tanks to attack.
  8. donavi49
    donavi49 3 November 2015 13: 11 New
    -1
    By the way, T-72Б from Novorossiysk arrived. They are going to storm Ghamam, where the day before yesterday, yesterday they miscalculated greatly. We launched an attack in the PMV style after Al Russi’s raid and good artillery preparation (but as always, the artillery preparation subsided in the morning, and the attack went after lunch). As a result, big losses and an epic successor among the broads in tweeters carrying corpses of soldiers along the streets of Ghamama, plus gifted equipment and weapons decently.

    Ghamam is one of the closest broads villages to the airspace base.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 3 November 2015 13: 22 New
      +6
      Russian-Ukrainian slang, and even on the Syrian theme, is of course something. Write normally and they will understand you
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    3. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 3 November 2015 14: 30 New
      +2
      ..... By the way, the T-72B from Novorossiysk arrived. ...

      .... They arrived a long time ago .... By the way, it is clearly not the Syrians who are sitting on the armor .... And the "peremogets" of the "babakhs" are always on the network ..... You cannot praise yourself - they will not give money ....
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  9. ilyaches
    ilyaches 3 November 2015 13: 15 New
    0
    In the first photo, the BTR is cool for modelers. It looks colorful.
  10. anfil
    anfil 3 November 2015 13: 32 New
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    Russian armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and BTR-82 on the Syrian front


    The same APC. Where more weighty evidence of the participation of "Russian troops" in the hostilities in Syria was the video published by 23 on August from Latakia province. It shows the armored personnel carrier BTR-82A participating in the battle. The fact that this is a new modification of the combat vehicle, and not the old BTR-80 (delivered to Syria under the contract), says the special shape of the tower



    BTR on video from Syria


    BTR on video from a different angle

    In the video you can see the side number on the armored personnel carrier - “111” with European numbers. In the Syrian army, armored vehicles are marked with side numbers written in original Arabic numerals, and not accepted in Russian and other European languages, which have undergone changes compared to the original version. In this case, we can safely say that the APC captured on video (with a high degree of probability) does not belong to the Syrian army. Given that the BTR-82A is officially in service with the Russian army, which supports the Bashar al-Assad regime, this could be a Russian armored personnel carrier. The crew of the armored personnel carrier can be both Syrian and Russian. In favor of assumptions that the crew is still Russian, says the audio sequence of the already mentioned video

    Video from Latakia (2: 04 - 2: 16)
    At 2 minute, shouts are heard that can be heard in Russian like: - Come on! - Throw it! - Still! - More! Despite the fact that the cries are quite clear, it cannot be conclusively asserted that we hear exactly the Russian language. By the way, in January of this year a certain kind of “experts” tried to hear Russian speech on the video of the attack on Charlie Hebdo. In any case, it is impossible to discount the version that the BTR-82A participated in the battle under the control of Russian-speaking specialists. So far, this is the only evidence of the possible participation of the Russian military in the Syrian conflict. Their number, belonging to specific units of the Russian army and other important details remain unknown.

    link:http://usapolitics.ru/lenta/rossijskie-vojska-v-sirii-pravda-i-vymysel.html
    1. _KM_
      _KM_ 3 November 2015 14: 58 New
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      Quote: anfil
      At 2 minutes, shouts are heard that can be made out in Russian like: - Come on! - Throw it! - Still! - More! Despite the fact that the cries are quite clear, it cannot be conclusively asserted that we hear exactly the Russian language.


      Maybe a production video?
  11. serg2108
    serg2108 3 November 2015 14: 49 New
    -1
    just as the car was a cardboard box, it remained ... it’s time to have a novelty in the army and to export thousands of pieces for export ... and send these to warehouses!
  12. _KM_
    _KM_ 3 November 2015 14: 57 New
    +1
    DZ on the LME hang. But the design of the remote control should provide for this. For example, to have a special "backing" for the back of the container, an adapted mount, etc.
  13. slizhov
    slizhov 3 November 2015 16: 21 New
    0
    The best ranges for checking the quality of weapons are the hot spots of our Planet. Moreover, if this weapon helps, in addition to its quality control, to return the world to the earth, destroying the feeding of the United States.
  14. alone
    alone 3 November 2015 21: 25 New
    0
    Although VKS strikes are very painful for Assad’s opponents, Assad’s blitz krieg was unsuccessful. There are some tactical successes. In some areas, it was possible to rectify the situation. But since the Syrian Army simply has a shortage of personnel, the war I think will continue for a long time .For those who are inspired by tactical successes, I advise you to consider some factors that have occurred against the backdrop of recent months.
    1) ISIS and Jabhat en Nusra decided to end their hostility among themselves, which is bad, because until recently these groups brutally annihilated each other. At least these groups were able to get a certain respite for themselves. Nevertheless, it’s hard to fight when the government army is ahead, another enemy is breathing behind you in the rear.
    2) in spite of everything, it was not possible to completely throw the enemy out of Latakia, the operation to liberate Aleppo also failed (although there are small tactical successes)
    3) Also failed to free the province of Hama, with the city of Homs no progress.

    The danger has not yet passed. Knowing the tactics of the Terras of a sudden strike can be expected anywhere
  15. _KM_
    _KM_ 4 November 2015 00: 29 New
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    It will drag on for a long time. A very long time.