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He does not need permission

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The other day, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced the readiness of the authorities to do everything to prevent the creation of autonomy by Syrian Kurds near the state border. To begin Turkey’s actions, “no one needs permission, we will do what is necessary,” Erdogan said. The head of Turkey did not rule out a military operation.


He does not need permission


29 October Interfaxreferring to Reuters, he conveyed the statement of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. He reported on the readiness of the authorities of the country to do everything necessary to prevent the creation of autonomy by Syrian Kurds, supported by the US, near the state border.

“Turkey does not need anyone’s permission, we will do what is necessary,” the agency quotes Erdogan.

According to the head of Turkey, he does not exclude the possibility of a military operation.

The agency recalls that Erdogan’s statement was made after the announcement of autonomy by the Kurds in the city of Tell-Abyarde near the Turkish border. Ankara believes that the intentions of the Kurds threaten the national security of Turkey.

The “aggravation” of the Kurdish issue in Turkey is caused by the events that followed the parliamentary elections of 1 in November. In the Kurdish areas of the country, protests began immediately to manifest preliminary results in the media.

“Erdogan wants to establish a presidential republic in Turkey. From the last election, his intentions have not changed. Now we have the last opportunity to do something until the dictatorship is established in Turkey, ”the channel quotes. "RT" Oppositionist, journalist for the newspaper Cumhuriyet, Jade Karan.

The pro-Kurdish Democratic Party of Nations, founded in 2012 and opposed to nationalism, can initiate change. Recently, notes "RT", she enjoys more and more support, and not only from the Kurds.

The leader of the "Democratic Party of Nations" is a young and charismatic Selahattin Demirtas. After the elections, tensions related to the Kurdish issue moved to the active phase, and Erdogan notes BFM.ru, began to accuse Demirtaş of links with the banned "Kurdistan Workers Party" (the latter, after the air strikes of Turkey on the positions of the Kurds in Iraq, announced the break of the truce).

Channel site "RT" November 3 reported an explosion in a supermarket in a city in southeastern Turkey, which is mostly inhabited by Kurds. Two dozen people were reportedly hospitalized.

Protests in the Kurdish areas of the country resumed after the preliminary results of the parliamentary elections became known. The ruling Justice and Development Party regained the parliamentary majority.

The “Democratic Party of Nations” still passes to parliament, and therefore will be able to resist Erdogan, who is seeking to expand presidential powers.

On election day, reminds of "RT", there were reports of violations: some volunteers who followed the elections could not get access to many polling stations. Over a thousand people were arrested for trying to vote several times. As a rule, they tried to “cast votes” for the “Justice and Development Party”, that is, the Erdogan party.

What could mean Erdogan's statement on preventing autonomy by Syrian Kurds near the state border? And will the president who pretends to be the “sultan” decide to go far?

Director of the Center for the Study of the Middle East and Central Asia, Semen Bagdasarov believes that Erdogan’s threats can be implemented.

“PKK” can not only start direct clashes with the Turkish army, but also act more subtly, said the expert "Free Press". - In the cities of Turkey, inhabited mainly by Kurds - in Diyarbakir, etc. - mass unrest can begin, which in the end will lead to the paralysis of Ankara’s power. And this is a civil war. ”

But what about the USA? “The United States supports the Syrian Kurds, so to speak, from hopelessness,” the expert noted. - Washington needs to demonstrate success in Syria and, first of all, take Er-Raqqa - I’ve spoken about this more than once. Americans need power on earth to work closely with their aviation. By the way, the United States considers the “Kurdistan Workers Party” a terrorist organization, but it’s still dropping the Kurdish militia in Syria weapon in tons: the Syrian and Turkish Kurds for all the years have adapted so much to all the intricacies that they already know how to get weapons. ”

The expert recalled that the military wing of the "PKK" are armed formations, which until recently were called the "Army for the Liberation of the Peoples of Kurdistan". The total number of people - up to 10 thousand people. The number of people's self-defense units (YPG), until recently, reached approximately 50 thousand people. After the Syrian Kurds have announced mobilization, we can most likely talk about the number of thousands of fighters in 70. Plus Sinjar Yezidi formations - even before 5 thousands. The potential is “more than sufficient,” the analyst notes. In addition, the Kurds are good warriors, and therefore the United States put on them.

But what about the Turkish army?

Before the coming to power of Mr. Erdogan, this army was powerful. Its number was almost a million people. However, today it is halved. “But the most terrible act of Erdogan in relation to his armed forces is the initiation of a number of criminal cases (frankly contrived) over officers and generals, both active and in reserve,” the expert says. “That is, a significant part of the army was repressed.” In the military, Erdogan is treated badly.

So, the Kurdish issue has become acute in Turkey. Erdogan, who wants to reshape the country's constitution under the “super-presidential” and become a “sultan”, is not only pro-Kurdish political forces standing in the way, but also the Kurds in the person of the PKK, who have canceled the previous truce. The Syrian crisis year after year unites the Kurds into a united front, the Kurds grow stronger in battles and gain military experience. An “optimized” Turkish army, cool to Erdogan, will not be easy to resist such fighters.

Will the “Sultan” decide on large-scale military actions? And what will the Kurds in Turkey do in this case? It is impossible to predict. Other analysts already foreshadow a civil war ...

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  2. tanit
    tanit 4 November 2015 06: 45 New
    +1
    Religion is religion, but the fact that the Yezidi Zoroastrians, together with Sunni Muslims, are trying to create (and he was, a couple of decades in history) Kurdistan - inspires respect. Different tribes, different languages, different looks, but consider themselves Kurds. At least for now.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 4 November 2015 07: 26 New
      +5
      Не совсем так. У курдов езидов нет ничего общего с суннитами-тем более желания создать "одно" государство. Там хотят не "одно" государство создать, а как минимум три. winked
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 4 November 2015 10: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Не совсем так. У курдов езидов нет ничего общего с суннитами-тем более желания создать "одно" государство. Там хотят не "одно" государство создать, а как минимум три. winked

        It’s not even a matter of the Kurds, it’s an unfulfilled dream of the people that has been going on for about 100 years. And how Turkey will behave, because for her the stake in this issue can become not just critical. Judging by everything, the whole thing goes to war and considering that the Kurds in Iraq support the United States, in Iraq they own oil-bearing regions, the statehood of Kurdistan took place. Turkey’s part in the event of a loss will be a disaster for the region - this is understood in the United States and does not want to understand in Turkey itself.
    2. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 4 November 2015 12: 44 New
      +2
      "решиться" Эрдоган может только на то, что ему позволят.
  3. svp67
    svp67 4 November 2015 06: 47 New
    +3
    The other day, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced the authorities’ readiness to do everything to prevent the Syrian Kurds from creating autonomy near the state border.
    Эрдоган отлично понимает, что появление независимого курдского государства около границ Турции, это "осиновый кол" не только для его политической карьеры но для во многом для Турции. Так,что он будет делать ВСЕ, что бы этого не произошло. Мне очень интересно будет на это посмотреть, особенно когда под иранские бомбы попадут американские спецназовцы.
    1. maiman61
      maiman61 4 November 2015 07: 03 New
      10
      And if we don’t want a certain country unfriendly next to our Crimea?
      1. GUKTU
        GUKTU 5 November 2015 08: 23 New
        +1
        and not only with the Crimea! On all sides overlaid the adversaries
  4. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 4 November 2015 06: 50 New
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    I propose to boycott the resorts of Turkey. You can not finance such regimes. Moreover, one should not forget that Turkey is a member of NATO, which was created against Russia / the USSR and is still acting against Russia.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 4 November 2015 08: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      I propose to boycott the resorts of Turkey.

      Yeah, now, everyone will run away. Our people, even on the forehead, even on the forehead. I recommend watching a video from Satanovsky on this similar topic, about the bike, and security. C 12min 30 sec.
      The key word for all of us is Cheapness. If it’s cheap, you can give up the principles. Something like this turns out.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 4 November 2015 08: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Sirocco
        The key word for all of us is Cheapness.

        Pushkin For a long time wrote - Balda told him reproachfully: you would not chase, Pop, for cheapness.
        I will personally say to myself - I did not go and I am not going to.

        Quote: Sirocco
        Something like this turns out.

        What is it wrong?
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  5. Name
    Name 4 November 2015 06: 55 New
    +2
    Greetings to all! Erdorgan, I feel like it and I’m pricking. Kurds are now allies with Russia against ISIS, Amers just need instability. Turkey will lose the president.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 November 2015 07: 15 New
    +2
    Erdogan, lately, like a dog in the manger! Neither yours nor ours.
    It may end badly. bully
    1. GUKTU
      GUKTU 5 November 2015 08: 27 New
      0
      I agree. I add that he looks like a prostitute. Rushing from side to side
  7. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 4 November 2015 07: 16 New
    +4
    what is it, the Ottomans of the land with the coast lost? They couldn’t wash off for the Cypriots forever, and then they thought up the ischo and the Kurds. Volunteers, have their mother in a knee-elbow pose ...
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 4 November 2015 10: 13 New
      +3
      The Ottomans still have not recognized the genocide (massacre) of the Armenians!
      1. Dad Uassia
        Dad Uassia 4 November 2015 15: 14 New
        +1
        Why only Armenians? There were also Assyrians with the Greeks. Che all forgot about them, but all the Khachiks remember.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 November 2015 07: 16 New
    +4
    “Turkey doesn’t need anyone’s permission, we will do what is necessary”

    Turkish Napoleon with American manners.
    Erdogan, who wants to redraw the country's constitution under the "super-presidential" and become a "sultan"

    Oleg, you very correctly noticed the reason for the actions and actions of Erdogan. For the sake of truth, it is necessary to note that Erdogan is a strong personality. Therefore, you can expect everything.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 4 November 2015 11: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      For the sake of truth, it is necessary to note that Erdogan is a strong personality.


      Atatürk was a strong personality, and Erdogan is often a weather vane - spinning like a worm on a hot stone. Apparently this is the fate of all the rulers trying to sit on two seats.
  9. Windy
    Windy 4 November 2015 07: 17 New
    +2
    “Turkey doesn’t need anyone’s permission, we will do what is necessary”
    Sly, but what about Barak Huseynovich? He will definitely ask for permission.
  10. Sars
    Sars 4 November 2015 07: 40 New
    +2
    Erdogan resembles a mad dog - he is ready to bite anyone he meets.

    Хотя не мешало бы послать в Турцию Медведева и весь "экономический блок правительства" поучится управлять экономикой.
  11. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 4 November 2015 07: 47 New
    +6
    Trying to sit not two, but on all the chairs at once. But that will not work.
  12. slizhov
    slizhov 4 November 2015 09: 01 New
    +3
    Erdogan ...
    It’s time to understand that everything needs to be AGREED ...!
    Everything should be done peacefully and after all this Aegil filth
    all countries wishing to build Peace on the Planet will be erased from the face of the earth ...
  13. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 4 November 2015 09: 14 New
    +2
    “Turkey does not need anyone’s permission, we will do what is necessary,” the agency quotes Erdogan.
    So the black lord gave the go-ahead recourse And by the way, what about Ukraine? So Russia can’t do what it considers necessary, but Turkey can? We are waiting for the sanctions to the Turks (well, that's how I am, I dream) wassat
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 4 November 2015 09: 26 New
    0
    The “optimized” Turkish army, cool about Erdogan, will not be easy to confront such fighters....Не стоит забывать, о роли армии в современной Турции..Армия всегда выполняла роль"смотрящего" за турецкими политиками..Шаг в лево, шаг в право..и военный переворот..Эрдоган с огнем играет..
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 4 November 2015 16: 00 New
      +2
      Not sure. 2 times reduced how many officers repressed, and so what? They are silent.
  15. Darkoff
    Darkoff 4 November 2015 09: 33 New
    +1
    Erdogan was the first to violate the truce between the government and the PKK, and began to bomb the Syrian Kurds at a time when it would seem necessary to unite in the fight against IS.
    The Turkish - Syrian border in the control zone of the IS is a passage yard for terrorists.
    Plus the statement quoted in the article = anti-Syrian policy. Aggressive, narrow-minded, short-sighted.
    1. Dad Uassia
      Dad Uassia 4 November 2015 15: 17 New
      0
      The Turks bomb the Kurds in Syria, because when the war ends there, they will return to Turkey to fight with the PKK.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 4 November 2015 21: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: DarkOFF
      Plus the statement quoted in the article = anti-Syrian policy. Aggressive, narrow-minded, short-sighted.


      Ну, не совсем так. Восток дело тонкое, Петруха... Эрдоган в отношении России гнёт свою линию, выгодную Турции, но пережимает. А вот наши "деятели" не дожимают и сдают потихоху позиции по "южному потоку". Но будем надеяться - ещё не вечер и переговоры продолжаются.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2015 10: 20 New
    +1
    Эрдоган допрыгается до Гражданской войны в Турции. Автономия Курдистан на сирийской территории - это очень вероятное событие. И противодействовать этому с помощью армии на территории чужого государства - как то слишком смело. А "по голове" получить не боиться?
    Kurds are now divided into parts not only by the borders of states, but also ideologically. Even in Iraqi Kurdistan there are several political forces that do not get along very well. And they will not be allowed to unite.
    1. Dad Uassia
      Dad Uassia 4 November 2015 23: 01 New
      0
      If the Kurds get autonomy in Syria, they are not far from secession from Syria.
  17. bad
    bad 4 November 2015 10: 57 New
    +3
    “Turkey does not need anyone’s permission, we will do what is necessary,” the agency quotes Erdogan.
    ... there is such a premonition that Erdogan will bring Turkey to a civil war, and he will either be thrown off or taken away .. winked
  18. pts-m
    pts-m 4 November 2015 13: 09 New
    0
    The Turkish atom is brewing. Therefore, the Türks take out and (d) Blisovites to the Saudis. Probably they create Turkish terbats like Kaklovskys.
  19. Dad Uassia
    Dad Uassia 4 November 2015 15: 18 New
    -8
    Correctly Erdogan does. Separator must be smashed.
  20. Swed
    Swed 4 November 2015 21: 02 New
    0
    Читая новости, пришёл к выводу, что заварить "кашу" нестабильности в большинстве уголков мира, это как 5-ть пальцев об асвальт. Достаточно лишь легонечко "подталкнуть".
  21. vitya1945
    vitya1945 5 November 2015 05: 30 New
    0
    Erdogan will not lose.
    Democracy in Turkey ended with the departure of Tansu Chiler (there was such a woman prime minister)
    No matter how popular he is, he will always gain his votes.
    The question is why?
    Ответ.- потому что демократических партий в Турции много,а ,,зеленая" то есть исламистская - одна,население Турции 99% исповедует ислам,и не важно как партия называется для большинства турок Эрдоган = Ислам
    Раньше была ,,Refah partisi" которую прикрыли не без участия военных,что кстати не забыл Эрдоган и впоследствии пересажал всю армейскую верхушку не взирая на чины и заслуги.
    He long and hard went to power.
    And in the near future, he will be at the helm of Turkey.
  22. vitya1945
    vitya1945 5 November 2015 05: 56 New
    +1
    И еще хочу ответить на фразу ,,надо бойкотировать курорты в Турции"
    To do this, you must first have national tour operators, but what happens ???
    На данный момент все крупнейшие ,,российские туроператоры" являются турецкими это ПЕГАС , АНЕКС , ОДЕОН или КОРАЛ(что одно и то же)
    There was a Russian BIBLIO GLOBUS which after the bankruptcy of Transaero lost several directions and can no longer be considered the largest (I would like to believe that it will rise)
    And the Turks at the state level stimulate (that is, they pay their own, for each charter with tourists put at Turkish airports)
    And where do you think Pegasus and the company will flow? To the Crimea?
    I have been working in tourism for a long time and I understand very well that the flows can be controlled and this (by slightly exaggerating) is currently decided by the Turks, where and how many Russian tourists will fly to.
  23. Belousov
    Belousov 5 November 2015 09: 52 New
    0
    Before declaring autonomy, it would be necessary to place a Russian military base there soldier This will be a very tough blow for the Turks and Erdogan in particular - it’s kind of close, but you can’t attack, they will quickly rake the Lyuli laughing
    1. aviator1913
      aviator1913 5 November 2015 10: 12 New
      0
      Before declaring autonomy, it would be necessary to place a soldier’s Russian military base there. This will be a very tough blow for the Turks and Erdogan in particular - it’s kind of close, but you can’t attack, the Lyuley will quickly kill laughing


      After the departure of the Islamic State, Iran will begin to bomb the Kurds along with the Turks. For Iran, the Kurds are almost the same problem as for Turkey. So the Russian base is definitely not needed there.
      1. Dad Uassia
        Dad Uassia 5 November 2015 10: 31 New
        0
        Ещё говорят что курдов поддерживает Израиль и США, чтобы отторгнуть нефтеносные районы Ирака и Сирии(где к слову и живут курды) под видом "Независимого Курдистана" для обеспечения энергетической безопасности Израиля.
        1. aviator1913
          aviator1913 5 November 2015 11: 27 New
          0
          Israel’s energy security will not be ensured anyway. Kurds do not border on Israel, they just treat him loyally, such as the Jordanians. Israel likes this, that's why they support Kurds and Yezidis. Plus, Israel wants a weakening of Iran and Turkey.
  24. aviator1913
    aviator1913 5 November 2015 10: 00 New
    0
    For Kurds, this is of course bad news. The fact that after the end of the war in Syria, the Kurds will separate, practically does not raise any questions, they deserve it, and Assad does not seem to mind, he still will not be able to control this territory. The question of the dismemberment of Iraq is also open, the Kurds have gained wide autonomy, and if there is a Kurdish state along their border, they will most likely try to join it.

    Only the last piece of the Kurdish question remains, these are Iranian Kurds. They also want separation from the Ayatollah regime, but the Iranian army does not allow them to do this.

    Thus, the emergence of the Kurdish state in Syria will become a wick that will blow up both Turkey and Iran. (Plus, it will touch Iraq and Syria a little, where there will be a problem with borders and demarcations) The scenario of the next war is more or less clear, Europe, the USA will be for the Kurds. Russia and China will wait, as in the case of Yemen, because they do not want to spoil relations with Iran, but they will not help it either.
    1. Dad Uassia
      Dad Uassia 5 November 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      Therefore, it is not beneficial for us that the Kurds become independent.
      1. aviator1913
        aviator1913 5 November 2015 10: 58 New
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        We are interested in fussing Sunites and Shiites in the Middle East. As long as they kill each other, we will have a permanent military order, plus they will not be able to produce additional oil in war zones, which will increase its speculative cost.

        Also, their fuss and war distract the world community from us and our maneuvers to neighbors and the like. The only exception is Afghanistan, in which problems affect our direct neighbors and therefore ourselves.