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IMF changes the rules: not every debt needs to be repaid now

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At the end of October, the American business newspaper The Wall Street Jornal, citing its sources in the International Monetary Fund, said that the IMF was ready to rewrite its own credit rules for the sake of Ukraine. The final decision of the Fund’s Board of Governors will be taken at the end of November after the G-20 Summit, which will be held in the middle of this month in Antalya, Turkey.




US Senate dictates terms to international financial center

The reservation about the “final decision” is rather a tribute to political politeness so as not to embarrass an authoritative meeting of the heads of the major world powers, which today is the G-20 summit. It will certainly discuss the role of the IMF in the global economy and the rules by which the work of this major financial center is built.

In recent years, the IMF theme has been rising at all the G20 summits. The leaders of the leading world powers are worried that this, in fact, the financial institution of the United Nations, is actually governed by the United States and its allies. The world has changed. The economies of developing countries have grown up. Significant was their contribution to the commodity basket of the planet, political weight. However, the conditions for managing the International Monetary Fund have not changed.

At the dawn of the creation of this financial center, the principle was laid down - for the approval of the decisions of the Fund, 85% of the votes of its participants are needed. At the same time, the share in 17% of all votes belongs to the USA. It is not enough for an independent decision, but you can block any initiative that Americans will not like.

This was taken seriously at the 2010 summit of the year in Seoul, South Korea. It was even decided to increase the share of developing countries in the capital of the IMF to 42,29%. Implement it failed. Sharply "against" were American legislators, and everything remained the same. Is that the Chinese allowed to raise the proportion from 2,94 to 6,394%. However, this had little effect on the situation. As before, it is in the power of the US Senate to adopt any bill that bans the International Monetary Fund from allocating loans to objectionable American countries or, on the contrary, encourages particularly obedient ones.

It is not by chance that the Minister of Finance of Russia Anton Siluanov did not really believe in the reservation about the final decision and sharply criticized the emerging decision. Here it is necessary to clarify: in the rules of the International Monetary Fund there is a ban on issuing loans to countries that have delayed a debt to official creditors: IMF member states. For many, it is obvious that Ukraine in December will not be able to pay Russia 3 billion dollars and, most likely, will default on Russian bonds.

To resolve this conflict, Vladimir Putin offered the IMF to give Ukraine a loan to pay off its debt to Russia. Such an approach categorically did not suit the Americans. There are several reasons. Home, of course, in the openly hostile attitude of the United States towards Russia. They are still entertaining themselves with the thought of "tearing our economy to shreds." Such an approach does not imply reciprocal steps. You can not discount the ambitions of "exclusivity", which recently absorbed the Americans along with heels. How can you once again not demonstrate that they control the IMF, and not Russia with its miserable 2,74% of votes!

American politicians actively intervened in history with the debt of Ukraine to Russia. For example, Senator Chris Murphy (member of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee) openly stated: “The international community must understand the need for us to take the appropriate steps that will give Ukraine the legal basis to avoid paying this debt.” In an interview with Sputnik, Murphy publicly promised to find a way to legally formalize Ukraine’s refusal to pay Russia's debt.

Apparently, in America they consider: “To promise is not to marry.” It seems that something went wrong with a legal justification. As reported by RIA "News":" The Senate Foreign Relations Committee announced that it would hold a briefing behind closed doors with the International Monetary Fund's Executive Director, Christine Lagarde, at which Ukraine’s debt situation will be discussed. "

There was or was not this briefing - it was left behind the scenes, but the position of the IMF suddenly sharply corrected. The fund decided to change the rules for lending to sovereign borrowers and to exclude a ban on the allocation of funds to countries that have delayed the payment of official debt and defaulted.

A solution that can be fatal

Minister Siluanov called such a decision hasty. The head of the Ministry of Finance noted that “Russia does not want Ukraine to remain without financial support in a difficult situation” and at the same time expressed concern that “changes in the fund’s policy are being forced in the context of the very politicized issue of restructuring Ukrainian debt” "). In other words, the international financial organization is going to change the general rules for one specific situation and abandon the principles that the IMF member states are focused on.

At first glance, this has already happened with the foundation. It is enough to remember Greece. Its economy has seriously reeled during the 2008-2009 crisis. There was a threat of Greece leaving the euro zone. At the first stage, loans from the European Union helped. Then the IMF joined. Later, in 2013, the fund acknowledged that they had made major mistakes and miscalculations when providing financial assistance to Greece.

In particular, during the period of granting loans, the Greek economy did not meet most of the criteria for IMF (three out of four), compliance with which is a prerequisite for receiving financial assistance. Greece had high government spending, high external debts, a budget deficit and a balance of payments deficit. However, for Europe, the European Union, which has almost a third vote in the IMF; the question was resolved without large delays.

The difference with the Ukrainian case here is that for the aid of Greece they did not change the rules and principles of the fund, but simply did not pay attention to the inconsistency of the country's requests with the terms of crediting. With Ukraine, it was also. A year ago, the President of Russia spoke about this: “We are interested in providing economic assistance to Ukraine, including assistance from the IMF. At the same time, and I would like to pay special attention to this, the practice of the foundation’s work is such that it does not provide financial support to a belligerent country. ”

The foundation ignored criticism of Vladimir Putin. The true truth here is that a belligerent country, as a rule, spends loans not to stabilize the country's economy (what the International Monetary Fund is intended to do), but to finance hostilities. Repayment of debt while not exactly guaranteed.

One gets the impression that the IMF does not expect to return the loans, which the United States and its allies, who in total have almost half of the votes for the decision-making fund, asked him to issue. The same Greece, for example, accumulated debt in 315 billion euros is obliged to return after the 2022 year. But already 30 June 2015 of the year was not able to pay the IMF the current loan payment in the amount of 1,6 billion euros.

Greeks, of course, scolded. They were already financed in exchange for the actual transfer of the country under "external control" to creditors. This time, the Greek payment essentially provided a new fund loan.

Ukraine also has no money for debt repayment. On September 22, she refused to pay $ 500 million on coupon obligations for Eurobonds. The lenders then gave her ten days to think, and on October 4, the Standing Committee of the International Association of Swaps and Derivatives (ISDA) at its meeting decided to recognize the technical default of Ukraine.

Слово «технический» в данном случае означает надежду кредиторов, что это купонное обязательство Украина всё-таки выполнит, когда у неё появится возможность. Однако специалисты международного рейтингового агентства Standard&Poor’s были менее оптимистичны. Они предположили, что «даже если Украина объявит дефолт, это не станет катастрофой для украинской экономики, ведь МВФ, скорее всего, закроет на это глаза и продолжит финансирование четырехлетней программы помощи, предполагающей кредитование Украины на сумму 17,5 млрд. долларов».

Действительность превзошла ожидания аналитиков из Standard&Poor’s. МВФ решил не просто закрыть глаза на возможный дефолт Украины, но и переписать под него свои основополагающие правила. В нынешнем декабре им, как и самому Международному валютному фонду, исполнится ровно 70 лет. Теперь, по мнению руководителей фонда, не всякий долг подлежит обязательному исполнению. По крайней мере, – долг тем кредиторам, кто не водит сегодня чаи с американцами и их союзниками.

Such selectivity is not an invention of the IMF. For years now, Americans have been introducing their right to the international community in a strong, exclusive right. They are used to bombing cities and countries without UN Security Council sanctions. Now the turn has reached financial structures. American dictates can be detrimental to the International Monetary Fund. After all, its competitors are now starting to operate - the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the BRICS Bank. These international financial institutions are built on equity and partnership. Behind them the future.

... It may happen that an ill-conceived decision on a selective approach to sovereign debt will be the drop that will completely destroy the reputation of the International Monetary Fund, which is still the leading financial institution of the United Nations.
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  1. Don karleone
    Don karleone 4 November 2015 06: 19 New
    +1
    They used to bomb cities and countries without UN Security Council sanctions
    On a count, on a barrel of gunpowder, let’s fly bully
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 November 2015 12: 30 New
      +8
      Отдадут, не отдадут... достали уже. Нечего деньги раздавать, самим есть куда пристроить. Как буд-то не знали, что Украина -это финансовая "черная дыра". А теперь гадаем... А 15 млрд Януеовичу нужно было давать вообще под его ходатайство об оказании военной помощи и совместную операцию по удержанию конституционного порядка в стране, тогда и бардака такого не было бы. Да вот слился Янукович, мелковата фигура в историческом масштабе оказалась...
      1. Wheel
        Wheel 4 November 2015 15: 30 New
        +6
        Quote: marlin1203
        They will give, they will not give ... they got it already. There is nothing to give out money, there is a place to attach it.

        Yeah, of course there is where, and we attach to the treasury obligations of users.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 4 November 2015 15: 32 New
      +2
      IMF changes the rules: not every debt needs to be repaid now

      Are they under Banderstadt or something caved in ?? belay That’s it, now you’ll keep these Svidomites for free. Who would have thought? ... fool
  2. dsi
    dsi 4 November 2015 06: 21 New
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    I marked the garbage basket on my computer as the IMF. Maybe Russia should do the same, who is FOR?
    1. BMW
      BMW 4 November 2015 09: 58 New
      +5
      It would be better to call the WTO, more benefits.
    2. Hon
      Hon 5 November 2015 09: 37 New
      0
      Quote: dsi
      Russia, who is FOR?

      and what does our opinion affect?
  3. svp67
    svp67 4 November 2015 06: 51 New
    +8
    The final decision will be made by the Fund’s Governing Council at the end of November after the G20 summit, which will be held in the middle of this month in Turkish Antalya.
    The Governing Council also includes a representative of the Russian Federation and other states, I would be very interested to see who and what voted for this Council ... I have no doubts that this Council will take the decision necessary for the USA, but there is also no doubt that for The IMF will be a step towards the abyss and that Russia and other countries will begin to more vigorously develop other international financial structures
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 4 November 2015 13: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: svp67
      I have no doubts that this Council will make the decision necessary for the USA, but there is also no doubt that for the IMF it will be a step towards the abyss

      Why are they there, in the IMF, completely stunned? Из-за такой мелочи, как Украина, из-за такой смешной суммы "на эскимо" (в масштабах МВФ, разумеется) они ломают систему, благодаря которой они 70 лет успешно грабят весь мир, попутно выполняя важнейшие поручения Госдепартамента США по развалу того или иного государства? Если им можно не отдавать, а послать их по адресу с милой улыбкой, то давать-то они всё равно будут, а как разваливать страны? Это ж каждый захочет, как Украина - взял, разворовал, "а денег нету..." Им в Америке совсем, что ли, всё надоело - весь мир в труху? Во внешней политике идут уверенной поступью к войне с Россией. Во внутренней - к диктатуре и сепаратизму. В финансах - обычная мавродиевщина. В экономике - зависимость от Китая. And here they themselves are ruining their very successful instrument of international banditry.

      Хотел бы я посмотреть на взломщика, который свою любимую "фомку" на гвозди пустит...
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 November 2015 06: 52 New
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    A purely American practical approach. When it is advantageous for them, and especially combined with damage to Russia, they are ready to do anything, even to change the rules they have established. This is not just a country parasite on the body of the Earth, it is a country leading the world to complete chaos. But will there be a place for the United States in the chaos they created?
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 November 2015 07: 22 New
    +9
    The IMF is the most political prostitute, covered by the mericatos.
    What is there to be surprised that the rules of this kitchen are Merikatosovskie.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 4 November 2015 10: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: aszzz888
      The IMF is the most political prostitute, covered by the mericatos.
      What is there to be surprised that the rules of this kitchen are Merikatosovskie.



      Silence is not just))) No one bothers to call us back from the IMF for almost 30 yards to the treasury. And you don’t even have to stutter. Just hard to do it. Let's see what song will sound in their garbage.
  6. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 4 November 2015 07: 26 New
    +7
    Duc and we, let’s not pay the IMF debt ... we’ll see who has iron eggs, and who has so-so. am
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 4 November 2015 11: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Duc and we, let’s not pay the IMF debt ... we’ll see who has iron eggs, and who has so-so. am

      and for debts from Ukraine we will take away the entire Black Sea coast ...
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 4 November 2015 11: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Duc and we, let’s not pay the IMF debt ... we’ll see who has iron eggs, and who has so-so.

      Duc, it’s like we don’t owe anything to the IMF. They paid off early 10 years ago.
      And what they should do now is for the most part our business in their banks.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 4 November 2015 17: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Duc, it’s like we don’t owe anything to the IMF.

        Give Up Corporate Debt
  7. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 4 November 2015 07: 34 New
    +5
    Ну они же там все" джентльмены".
    And if a gentleman cannot win by the rules, he changes the rules.
  8. alex-cn
    alex-cn 4 November 2015 07: 36 New
    +3
    Yes, apparently we lost these 3 billion, well, that we did not manage to give all 15.
    Now we need to seriously move the BRICS bank,, the Asian Bank, and drag everyone who does not like the IMF policy there. And let the IMF become the domestic bank of the West.
    1. Bkmz
      Bkmz 4 November 2015 08: 03 New
      +5
      But no, if they don’t pay, then they will set a precedent by which they all stop paying each other and then a system in which at one person endless resources begin to burst at the seams, those who are sitting on infinite resources cannot afford it, because live in conditions of limited resources do not know how and can not.
      1. liuk gud
        liuk gud 5 November 2015 00: 53 New
        0
        I think Greece is waiting for this moment, and not only Greece
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 4 November 2015 14: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: alex-cn
      Yes, apparently we lost these 3 billion, well, that we did not manage to give all 15.


      This, Dear Alexei, is not so obvious. The loan was issued through the purchase of Eurobonds, so that litigation will be long and persistent, and the decision of the European court will most likely be in our favor. Another question: how will Ukraine comply with the court decision and whether at all.
      But in any case, a colleague, we have a chance to return our money, though taking into account the political situation, it’s not a high one.
      Something like this, Dear colleagues. hi
      1. zennon
        zennon 4 November 2015 21: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        The decision of the European court will most likely be in our favor. Another question: how will Ukraine comply with the court decision and whether at all.

        But this unties our hands. We will then be able to legally flawlessly link the supply of energy (not only gas, but also oil products, electric energy and fuel elements for nuclear power plants) with the court’s decision to repay the debt, that is, automatically increasing the amount of payments to pay off eurobonds. And they will never get away. It is true that the trial will not be quick ...
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 4 November 2015 22: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: zennon
          But this unties our hands. We will then be able to legally flawlessly link the supply of energy (not only gas, but also oil products, electric energy and fuel elements for nuclear power plants) with the court’s decision to repay the debt, that is, automatically increasing the amount of payments to pay off eurobonds. And they will never get away. It is true that the trial will not be quick ...

          Андрей, ну Вы же сами понимаете, что решение суда будет бог его знает когда, может тогда и ситуация в мире в чем-то измениться. Трудно, коллега, загадывать так далеко. Да и сегодня на "Политнавигаторе" опять Яйценюх устраивал шоу по поводу нашего долга. Это ведь то же о чем-то говорит, значит есть какие то рычаги давления на Украину с нашей стороны раз они не ждут терпеливо истечения срока кредитного договора. Ну как то так, коллега. hi
          1. zennon
            zennon 4 November 2015 22: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            You yourself understand that the decision of the court will be God knows when, maybe then the situation in the world will change in some way.

            Nothing, we'll wait. Strategically, this is in +. hi
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 4 November 2015 22: 18 New
              0
              Quote: zennon
              Nothing, we'll wait. Strategically, this is in +.


              I agree, colleague. hi
      2. Evil Kind
        Evil Kind 5 November 2015 20: 52 New
        -1
        Moreover, the debts must be taken now, while the regime at the helm in Ukraine is hostile for us, then there will be no sense. The United States seems to me to reckon on this, now Ukraine does not repay debts not only to us, but also deferred other debts, while taking from the IMF .In this regard, it becomes viable for an indefinite period of time. During this time, it further breaks economic (cultural silence) ties with Russia, sets its citizens hostile to us, plunges into economic, political, structural chaos and grows into overwhelming debts. Then the junta will be overthrown and forces will come, most likely pro-Russian, or neutral to us. And please, take away Russia’s last money from friendly Ukraine. In order to later abandon debts, you will essentially have to re-arrange Ukraine, and it’s better to separate Western Ukraine and hold them accountable, although this will be very hindered and at first the state will be an outcast in the West.

        And I don’t really understand why, because of such a trifle ($ 3 billion), the USA is very strong! undermine the IMF's reputation. This also suggests that they do not count on the long existence of the current regime of Ukraine, otherwise they would give money to pay off our loan, I feel sorry for their real money.
  9. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 4 November 2015 09: 11 New
    +3
    If I am not mistaken, then there is no question of debts. We are talking about changing part of the rules that do not allow providing assistance to countries debtors in default. Or not? Those. they’re just getting ready for Ukraine to default so that they can lend to them after that. Correct if I am mistaken ...
    1. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 4 November 2015 10: 06 New
      +2
      Which will inevitably lead not only to the external political governance of Ukraine (which is actually happening now), but to the external economic one, which the IMF lending rules were originally created. Amer is greatly hindered by the very presence of such international, that is, not completely controlled by them organizations, like the UN. Therefore, they are trying on all sides, both political (military actions without UN Security Council sanction, the abolition of the veto right) and economic (discrediting and collapsing the IMF and incentives to stabilize the economies of debtor countries) eliminate all instruments of any control (even its visibility) over themselves .
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 4 November 2015 10: 29 New
        +4
        From this we can conclude: Debt is here, nothing to do with. It’s just that the United States seeks to control third countries, but at the same time wants the IMF to pay for all this fun. So it turns out?
    2. zennon
      zennon 4 November 2015 11: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Observer 33
      they’re just getting ready for Ukraine to default so that they can lend to them after that. Correct if I am mistaken ...

      You’re not mistaken. But these are just rumors. The point is that this idea was 100 years old for lunch. It repeatedly popped up every time when another failed debtor cried out for help. These attempts did not end there. So it will be this time. The summit-coasters will not pay and will not be credited by the IMF. But who said that this is the only way to get a loan? You can apply privately to Berlin or Fashington ...
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 4 November 2015 20: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: zennon
        You’re not mistaken. But these are just rumors. The point is that this idea was 100 years old for lunch. It repeatedly popped up every time when another failed debtor cried out for help. These attempts did not end there. So it will be this time. The summit-coasters will not pay and will not be credited by the IMF. But who said that this is the only way to get a loan? You can apply privately to Berlin or Fashington ...

        Позволю с Вами не согласиться, Уважаемый Андрей. Прецедент уже есть, это Греция, согласно правил она не имела возможность по своему социально-экономическому состоянию получить очередной транш МВФ, однако под давлением ЕС, МВФ продолжил финансирование греческих "реформ". По поводу Украины Лаггарт уже неофициально признала возможность продолжения финансирования и после моратория на выплаты России.
        Some possibility of solving the problem in your presentation exists, in anticipation of a meeting of 20 in Antalya, but experts are sure that the United States will still push the IMF to change the rules to the detriment of Russia.
        Something like that, colleague. hi
        1. zennon
          zennon 4 November 2015 21: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          A precedent already exists, this is Greece,

          There is no colleague. Greece is a member of the EU, but no cohland. In Greece, the IMF did not save Greece, but its banks. The money provided to Greece went to the reorganization of banks invested in Greek bonds. They did not arrive in Greece.
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Regarding Ukraine, Laggart has already unofficially recognized the possibility of continued funding after the moratorium on payments to Russia.

          This is exactly what I wrote about. Repeatedly, an official has not officially periodically announced such opportunities in the past.
          It didn’t end with anything. Matrasia Kohlov will not give up. Too fat piece. They will go to great lengths to split the Russian world and tear stupid Kohlov from Russia. But I think they will act finer. It’s not necessary to connect international financial institutions. You can buy dill obligations on their conditions. Then partially write off these debts additionally enslaving Kiev. And nothing needs to be broken. hi
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 4 November 2015 21: 34 New
            0
            Quote: zennon
            This is exactly what I wrote about. Repeatedly, an official has not officially periodically announced such opportunities in the past.
            It didn’t end with anything. Matrasia Kohlov will not give up. Too fat piece. They will go to great lengths to split the Russian world and tear stupid Kohlov from Russia. But I think they will act finer. It’s not necessary to connect international financial institutions. You can buy dill obligations on their conditions. Then partially write off these debts additionally enslaving Kiev. And nothing needs to be broken.

            Andrei, Dear, we are arguing along the same lines. You are considering this option, I am inclined to another, but by and large the result will be unequivocally in favor of the Americans and in contrast to us.
            Well, something like that, colleague. hi
            1. zennon
              zennon 4 November 2015 21: 47 New
              0
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              by and large, the result will be unequivocally in favor of the Americans and in contrast to us.

              It’s true, but this tactical victory of the mattress. In fact, they scoop up the remnants of dividends from the collapse of the USSR. Cohland as a state is not wealthy and in the end most of it will return to the hand of Moscow. Here is the opinion of one of the smartest people who have ever lived. I suggest not need ...
              “Even the most successful outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of Russia, which rests on the millions of Russian believers in the Greek denomination. The latter, even if they are separated by international treaties, will reunite with each other as quickly as they find their way to each other by disconnected mercury droplets.
              This indestructible State of the Russian nation is strong in its climate, its spaces and its unpretentiousness, as well as through the awareness of the need to permanently protect its borders.
              This State, even after a complete defeat, will remain our creature, an adversary seeking revenge, as we have in the case of today's France in the West. This would create for the future a situation of constant tension, which we will be forced to assume, if Russia decides to attack us or Austria. But I am not ready to accept this responsibility, and to be the initiator of creating this situation by ourselves.
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 4 November 2015 20: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Observer 33
      If I am not mistaken, then there is no question of debts. We are talking about changing part of the rules that do not allow providing assistance to countries debtors in default. Or not? Those. they’re just getting ready for Ukraine to default so that they can lend to them after that. Correct if I am mistaken ...


      Yes, practically so, Dear Oleg, only a small clarification. According to the fundamental documents of the IMF, naturally for this case, financial assistance to the recipient country ceases if it does not fulfill its obligations under state obligations, that is, in this case, Ukraine declares a moratorium on payment of financial resources taken to us on credit. That is, to some extent, default is a secondary issue, because it comes after the announcement of a moratorium on state obligations.
      Блин, прочитал и сам опупел что написал. Короче по русски - Если Украина нам бабки не возвращает, МВФ ей должен прекратить помощь, согласно своих же правил. Но так как МВФ "лежит" под американцами, то они планируют изменить правила и продолжить давать бабки Украине. При этом процедура объявления дефолта по большому счету это лишь констатация факта неплатёжеспособности.

      Somehow it happened, Dear colleague. hi At least I tried. yes
  10. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 4 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +5
    A double edged sword. So other countries will refuse to pay debts. And the end of the IMF
  11. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 4 November 2015 09: 34 New
    +4
    What: you can not pay loans to American banks?
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 November 2015 11: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      What: you can not pay loans to American banks?

      In this case, those countries that stop paying will very quickly find out why the US military budget is the largest in the world.
  12. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 4 November 2015 10: 00 New
    12
    the states occupied the clearing and drew their rules of the game. And whose rules, that is the gain. They lay straws for themselves. Their debt is not frail. Suddenly, who dares to ask for a refund. I am solely grateful to our 90s for losing our illusions about the states and their friends.
  13. Nord2015
    Nord2015 4 November 2015 10: 12 New
    +6
    America allows Ukraine not to pay the debts of Russia. Enchanting. The theater of the absurd is simple. Russia must also be allowed to not pay America's debts. Anarchy is the mother of order.
  14. samuil60
    samuil60 4 November 2015 10: 23 New
    +2
    For some in the world, 70 is a magic number, after which everything needs to be changed. That is, to destroy the old and create a new one - so they change the world. Examples: the UN, the IMF, and finally the USSR ... And many more things change every seventy years, we just don’t notice it. People work ... Or INHUMAN?
  15. Stas157
    Stas157 4 November 2015 12: 48 New
    +3
    Quote: Nord2015
    America allows Ukraine not to pay the debts of Russia. Enchanting. The theater of the absurd is simple.

    А вы еще не заметили, Запад всегда начинает менять правила если его припрет, ну или делать исключения из ими же установленных правил. И это не вдруг, еще со средних веков, вспомните пьесу Шекспира "Венецианский купец", где европейский суд вместо того, чтобы обязать купца расплатиться по долгам с евреем, наоборот заставил еврея(путем лазеек законодательстве)отдать половину своего состояния! Так что господа в "кружевных панталонах", всегда найдут исключение из правил, как бы нам самим, в итоге, в должниках не оказаться!))) Чтобы Запад не смог менять правила по своему усмотрению, нужно самим устанавливать эти правила!
  16. 31rus
    31rus 4 November 2015 12: 57 New
    +7
    Stavte immediately minuses, but it was precisely the inaction of Russia that led and still does not know where it will lead Ukraine to, and how the consequence will affect (but already affect) Russia and this is only the beginning
  17. koksalek
    koksalek 4 November 2015 13: 14 New
    +4
    What is the secret meaning of financing Ukraine before its collapse? Now neither Ukraine nor money. They fed the oligarchs again. We have not been able to repair the federal road for many years now, the condition is like after the bombing, and here money is in the pipe. Pests!
  18. sagitta25
    sagitta25 4 November 2015 13: 23 New
    -7
    And why does the site write about finances? I’ll understand the theme of the site is different, namely WAR and military equipment ... Just don’t say that it’s like that, it’s also a war, only economic. I want to read about Syria, watch a video about the war in different parts of the world) watch how the militants decapitate igil, but here about finances ...
    1. Dmitry Ukraine
      Dmitry Ukraine 4 November 2015 17: 49 New
      +4
      Three things are needed for war: money, money, and once again money (c) Napoleon
      So, somehow, a colleague hi
  19. pts-m
    pts-m 4 November 2015 14: 26 New
    +1
    You look. What a noble site. Probably on the contents of the IMF.
  20. Kibl
    Kibl 4 November 2015 14: 59 New
    0
    How this Ukraine already got it! Forgive 3 yards and shut off the gas valve and send everyone without looking at the kui !!!
  21. Alexy
    Alexy 4 November 2015 15: 02 New
    +2
    Something a lot of Americans put on Ukraine. I do not like it.
  22. brumgilda81
    brumgilda81 4 November 2015 15: 40 New
    0
    It finally became clear that the leadership of the mattresses put their project (mattress) under the knife. As always in such cases, the result is unpredictable. Let's wait and see. wink
  23. DOMINO100
    DOMINO100 4 November 2015 20: 41 New
    0
    scary like that for the children! what future awaits them.
  24. sagitta25
    sagitta25 5 November 2015 00: 20 New
    0
    Quote: KIBL
    How this Ukraine already got it! Forgive 3 yards and shut off the gas valve and send everyone without looking at the kui !!!

    About what the editor was told about what he writes, because they will trample if he does not listen. I’ll tell you honestly she’s already tired of many.
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 5 November 2015 11: 31 New
    0
    Conclusion - no need to play with cheaters and according to their rules. Let them have fun.
    You need to create your game according to generally understood rules and play it.