Do not remove them from sanctions?

The recent visit of Vice Chancellor and Minister of Economy of Germany Sigmar Gabriel to Moscow for the European and American press was a complete surprise. Even the German editions found out about Gabriel’s plans only on the day of departure. The American brain trust Stratfor has speculated that Berlin is rethinking relations with Moscow. It is even about the possible lifting of sanctions: after all, the Germans are very concerned about the trade turnover between Germany and Russia.


Do not remove them from sanctions?


“German journalists officially notified 28-29 of October on the visit of Sigmar Gabriel to Moscow on October 1 only on the day of his departure. The German government darkened to the last ", - writes Deutsche Welle.

And the details: “October 27 in 19 hours and 17 minutes Central European Time about the upcoming meeting the next day, Vladimir Putin with the Vice-Chancellor of Germany, reported the Interfax news agency with reference to the press secretary of the Russian president.

In 29 minutes — now with reference to Interfax — the German agency dpa told about this. And the press service of the Ministry of Economics of the Federal Republic of Germany notified the journalists accredited to the German government and parliament only at the beginning of the tenth morning on Wednesday, when the vice-chancellor’s plane was preparing to take off. ”

As you can see, the German press was simply amazed by this attitude, if not shocked. No joke - german news German journalists will learn ... from the Russians!

Had October 28 German Wave to construct a “report” on the meeting of Gabriel with Putin, referring to the same “Interfax”.

The Vice-Chancellor of Germany, Minister of Economy and Energy Sigmar Gabriel, noted in the material, met with Russian President Vladimir Putin. They discussed conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, as well as the gas issue, including the transit of gas through Ukraine.

“We have embarked on a good negotiating path on this issue. In order to limit political interference in these issues, it is necessary to ensure, resolve, resolve the issue of Ukraine’s role as a transit country even after 2014 of the year, ”the agency quotes Gabriel as saying with reference to Interfax.

Sigmar Gabriel stressed that maintaining Ukraine’s status as a transit country is a condition for the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project.

The President of the Russian Federation noted the drop in commodity turnover between the Russian Federation and Germany, and also spoke about the interaction of the two states in the international arena: “As for our cooperation in the international arena, it continues quite intensively, although on rather narrow topics, but, nevertheless, work is coming And in this connection, of course, I cannot help mentioning the most sensitive topics - these are also Ukrainian problems, these are problems of the Middle East. ”

No details of the negotiations. And if not, assumptions and forecasts appeared in the analytical circles. One such forecast was published on the website of the American Brain Trust. "Stratfor".

According to experts, the visit of the vice-chancellor to Moscow testifies to the reconsideration of relations with Russia by Germany.

Analysts at the Stratfor research center are confident that, once the official purpose of the visit was to discuss bilateral trade, it was a question of sanctions. Experts suggest that the parties could touch on questions about ways to mitigate prohibitive measures against the Russian Federation, and even talk about the lifting of sanctions.

The material “Stratfor” indicates that in only half of 2015, the supply of German products to Russia decreased by 31,5% compared to the corresponding period of 2014.

The issue of Germany’s energy cooperation with Russia was also probably important. It is known that Sigmar Gabriel had previously discussed with the owners of Gazprom an infrastructure project to expand the Nord Stream.

Stratfor analysts note that today Germany is considering Russia as a key player in the resolution of the crisis in Syria. The fact is that the conflict in Syria is directly related to the growth of migrants to Europe, including to Germany.

American experts think that Berlin’s attitude towards the B. Assad government was softer than that of the United States and a number of Western European states.

As for the reasons for easing the sanctions, among those analysts call the relatively stable situation in Ukraine over the past months.

In addition, Stratfor believes that not only Germany, but also Italy and France would support improved relations with the Russians.

On the other hand, Washington and many states of Central and Eastern Europe are not ready to move away from the former "hard" positions with respect to Moscow.

The Germans also "biasedly" examined the possible reasons for Herr Gabriel’s visit to Putin.

Julia Smirnova in a large newspaper «Die Welt» notes that a personal meeting between the Minister of Economy of a foreign country and Vladimir Putin is most likely an exception to the rule. According to the correspondent, Sigmar Gabriel seems to Putin "both important and useful." After all, two of them spoke in the Moscow region residence in Novo-Ogaryov about all the most important topics: the economy, and about Syria, and about Ukraine, and about anti-Russian sanctions.

The curious journalist seems to be the following fact: even before meeting with Putin for several months, Z. Gabriel “demonstrated readiness for compromises with Russia,” and his desire for such compromises was far superior to what Russian Chancellor Angela Merkel could offer. True, Gabriel got it for his wording: the head of the Social Democratic Party, after he proposed loosening the sanctions against Russia, was criticized, and since then he began to speak “more carefully”.

There is one more curious thing: in his statements, Herr Gabriel always tried to make it clear: his opinion “does not coincide with the position of the EU and the administration Chancellor Merkel”.

And now, at a meeting with Putin, Gabriel said that his personal opinion is this: you need to "look for new ways to restore cooperation between Germany and Russia." Then, speaking no longer with Putin, but with German journalists, Herr Gabriel spoke in favor of a “gradual abolition” of anti-Russian sanctions (also “opinion”).

Finally, Gabriel commented on the situation in Ukraine, while not expressing criticism of the Russian Federation. Then he spoke about Syria, also not intending to criticize the Russians.

The Minister called the situation in Ukraine “a symptom, not the cause of the problems”. Syrian President Assad, according to Gabriel, is not the only problem in Syria. Leaving him "will not lead to the resolution of the conflict."

As for the official position of Berlin, we add from ourselves, we know: they do not intend to cancel the sanctions there. The head of the Federal Chancellor's Office, Peter Altmayer, said this the other day.

Commenting on the next interview of the Vice-Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany Sigmar Gabriel, who proposed to lift the sanctions because of the important role of Moscow in resolving the Syrian crisis, Altmayer сказалthat the German government does not intend to lift the economic sanctions against Russia. The role of Vladimir Putin is indeed important, but “this does not mean that we will change our position on the Ukrainian issue,” Altmayer said. He added: "We will not give in to blackmail."

Gabriel’s “Personal Opinions” on the role of Russia and the lifting of sanctions are logical and understandable.

Chancellor Merkel’s trust rating in Germany continues to fall, and against this backdrop to political competition, Herr Sigmar Gabriel, the chairman of the SPD, and at the same time the vice-chancellor, сообщил on the nomination of his candidacy for the post of Federal Chancellor. And expressed confidence in his election victory.

Presumably, if the parliamentary elections of 2017 of the year make adjustments to the alignment of the political forces of the Federal Republic of Germany, prohibitive measures against Russia can indeed be lifted. But not before.

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  1. Lyton 5 November 2015 05: 46 New
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    It is necessary to live up to 2017, and then it will be seen whether Herr Sigmar has a chance to become Chancellor, given his such moods, mattresses will also not be idle.
    1. hydrox 5 November 2015 07: 21 New
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      We now have no reason to support Herr Gabriel, because apart from words, nothing stands behind him so far.
      1. oldseaman1957 5 November 2015 07: 46 New
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        It’s not worth paying attention to them - everything is under Uncle Sam. Therefore, making great joy, stupidly bend your line. So reliable.
    2. SibSlavRus 5 November 2015 07: 58 New
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      God willing, in the near future we will dictate the conditions under which we will generously allow the “decaying” (as the classics of socialism said) West to lift these famous sanctions and again become a market for Western goods, services and technologies.
      Let each other's throats gnaw for the right relationship with Russia.
      We are the most self-sufficient country in the world. We need a little (in modern conditions, if even after the regime of three wars an unprecedented breakthrough was made in rebuilding and developing the country) time to correct the deeds of the "democrats of wild capitalist pharmacy". There is experience - we need the political will of the country's leadership to take tough measures against the "true capitalists".
  2. EFA
    EFA 5 November 2015 05: 55 New
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    No one will lift the sanction. And realizing this, Sigmar Gabrielle also said that new ways must be sought. What do you mean the old ones are no longer suitable or mined. The question is, what are these ways?

    There are not many options, to be honest.
    1. Andrey NM 5 November 2015 06: 48 New
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      Indeed, no one will remove the sanctions. The USSR was constantly living in sanctions and the wind was blowing from the USA. America will simply fine the banks of Europeans for working with Russia based on their domestic legislation, which they are doing now. What are the solutions? In the current environment, none. It is possible, in the form of a counter measure, to demand the immediate return of the gold reserve, in case of failure to place arrests on American property, of which there are many in Europe. But nobody will do it. Firstly, there are many American troops that will be used without fail, and they will not care if they are allies or not. And secondly, it will be a full-scale war. Europe is not ready to stand up for itself in its current form and to drop the occupation, especially the double (radical Muslim). The EU will embroil the issue of refugees; Americans only need this, it’s easier to strangle one by one.
      1. just exp 5 November 2015 07: 05 New
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        Yes, there’s no need to even fight there. The EU’s ikanomeka is too much tied to the economy of not only the states, but also of other countries, that is, it deliberately made cooperation between the countries and if one of these countries raps, the rest will break off ties with it and the economy and industry of this country goes along the beard .
        that is why even under strong state pressure, the Germans are looking for ways to get out of this situation. Yes, these are only attempts. but after some time, real steps can go.
  3. dsi
    dsi 5 November 2015 06: 17 New
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    Recent visit of Vice Chancellor and Minister of Economy of Germany Sigmar Gabriel to Moscow

    Merkel just reported. Like, I'm sorry, the Yankees are pushing us because we are doing bad for you.
  4. parusnik 5 November 2015 06: 19 New
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    In addition, Stratfor believes that not only Germany, but also Italy and France would support improved relations with the Russians...But the Phashington regional committee is against ... the occupied countries cannot have their own foreign policy ..
  5. strelets 5 November 2015 06: 20 New
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    Merkel is trying to appease the Americans as well, and to build bridges with us. They say one thing, think another. Very western.
    1. Lelek 5 November 2015 11: 13 New
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      Quote: strelets
      Merkel is trying to appease the Americans as well, and to build bridges with us.


      And what did you want from the underground Hitler Youth from the former GDR? The owner of all Europe shook his finger - "sit!", Here he sits, and crawls with a thick ass on the asphalt.
  6. mamont5 5 November 2015 06: 38 New
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    "prohibitive measures against Russia can indeed be lifted. But not earlier."

    Not really like that. They can continue to indulge in sanctions, let's see who will be worse.
  7. rotmistr60 5 November 2015 06: 39 New
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    German government darkened to the last

    The Germans survived. To solve some of their problems, one has to observe conspiracy. Otherwise, the owner may intervene and break all plans. Interestingly, a long-thinking Europe will suffer such humiliation from the United States.
  8. dmi.pris 5 November 2015 06: 55 New
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    Does Russia need lifting sanctions?
    1. Corsair0304 5 November 2015 09: 00 New
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      Unfortunately - it is necessary. Not yet. Since in many sectors we are lagging behind, and our economy needs to be developed. Just after the lifting of the sanctions (it is unlikely that this will happen, but as an assumption) we will have a choice with which of the probable partners to contact and on what terms to launch them to our market, since they will already ask us, and not we to invite them.

      Aircraft manufacturing, instrument making, oil industry will definitely benefit.
  9. Cu6up9k 5 November 2015 07: 35 New
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    Now they have planted a vice-chancellor for a maid or nanny. And his chances in the elections will change dramatically.
  10. afrikanez 5 November 2015 07: 45 New
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    Sigmar Gabriel’s act, by the standards of the European Union, is out of the ordinary. But still, it pleases that, although not many, but still began to understand that without Russia, the EU will come kirdyk.
  11. cniza 5 November 2015 08: 07 New
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    Quote: Lyton
    It is necessary to survive until 2017, and there it will be seen whether Herr Sigmar has any chances



    The question may become even steeper if Mr. will survive until 2017, the United States is a great specialist in such matters.
  12. Furious bambr 5 November 2015 08: 13 New
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    maintaining Ukraine as a transit country

    No problem! We’ll keep the status, only for the current repair of the pipe we’ll forget a little wink
  13. Mountain shooter 5 November 2015 08: 15 New
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    Gabriel sensed a trend. He risks his career by promoting ideas across the Faitington regional committee, but this is probably becoming a popular idea.
  14. wow
    wow 5 November 2015 11: 39 New
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    Oh, and you’re rethinking something for a long time ...!
  15. provincial 5 November 2015 11: 47 New
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    I’m a pensioner, so to speak, ballast on the neck of the state, sanctions do not bother me. As I lived before the sanctions, I live under the sanctions. But how I lived and live another question.
  16. Fibrizio 5 November 2015 11: 53 New
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    Well, so far this does not mean anything. How many at the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine shouted about the friendship of Merkel and Putin? So what?
    No, until there is general warming, there will be nothing.
  17. Simple 5 November 2015 13: 25 New
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    The other day I listened to a speech by Sigmar Gabriel in the Bundestag.

    As for the million refugees, the meaning of the statement boiled down to providing new arrivals with work. request

    And where to get these same 500 of thousands of jobs?

    Where to lie with money for social security and medical insurance?

    Where to get so many teachers and educators, doctors?

    Yesterday's banal went to the store for bread (in that store you can take hot bread, and after it cools down, cut into a bread slicer) the shelves with bread are empty (with the exception of buns and bread for 1,60).

    I ask the saleswoman when it will be possible to come for bread (in the oven just a new batch of bread arrived).

    Answers that in thirteen minutes. And if you want to chop it later, it’s better in an hour.

    I come back in fifty minutes again: oil painting - the shelves are empty (except for buns and bread for 1,60).

    In general, the newly arrived people do not wait for the bread to cool.



    Trying to remove these artificially created barriers, our government prompted platitudes - so many people in Germany need something productive to occupy.


    Well, in conclusion:

    http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article206518857/Koalition-will-Tempelhofer-Feld
    -fuer-Fluechtlinge-bebauen.html
  18. igorka357 5 November 2015 13: 35 New
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    Yes, they treat us, so that they would calm down a little, chukhut to see that Russia-Matushka harnessed and went off .. and we, as you know, harness for a long time but go so that everything is in different directions, that's trying to oily!
  19. yuriy55 5 November 2015 17: 16 New
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    Sanctions, sanctions ... will be removed, not removed ... We expect to see a striptease? Yes, it is necessary to live in such a way that they will be “whitened” beyond the hill in impotent rage. After all, how many handouts can be expected? Work, work and work again. Demand decent pay. Stigmatize embezzlers and bribes. Demand from the authorities a fair and deliberate government. And the fact that Mother Russia harnessed and set off has long been clear. Those who will try to insert sticks into the wheels will face an unenviable fate. Sweep to the vigorous grandmother ... angry
  20. Hens 5 November 2015 17: 25 New
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    In stupid. What difference will be canceled will not be canceled. The train has left, the scribe and the gap can not be seen in Russia. And lifting the sanctions will not add cash to Putinoids. M ... yes.
  21. uzer 13 5 November 2015 18: 22 New
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    [quote] [/ Sigmar Gabriel emphasized that maintaining the status of a transit country for Ukraine is a condition for the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project.]

    The cunning fox came to lobby for Ukrainian gas interests, and at the same time to raise his election rating. German economists understand that if Ukraine loses transit money, it will have to be taken for maintenance, otherwise Europe will be provided with another flow of emigrants in addition to the existing one. a new war in Ukraine and the subsequent collapse of the state is also very high, and nothing good can be expected for European neighbors with this situation.
  22. Vladimir 1964 5 November 2015 20: 47 New
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    The recent visit of Vice Chancellor and Minister of Economy of Germany Sigmar Gabriel to Moscow for the European and American press was a complete surprise. Even the German editions found out about Gabriel’s plans only on the day of departure. The American brain trust Stratfor has speculated that Berlin is rethinking relations with Moscow. It is even about the possible lifting of sanctions: after all, the Germans are very concerned about the trade turnover between Germany and Russia.


    One gets the impression that, after all, this is a well-thought-out and staged political move, the goal of which is precisely difficult to determine for a simple layman, but it seems that some kind of game was started by the politicians. And I think the participants in the "game" are not only us with the Germans. But Gabriel can’t believe in the “suicide”.
    Curious as that, Dear colleagues. hi
  23. Vlad5307 5 November 2015 23: 08 New
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    Quote: SibSlavRus
    We are the most self-sufficient country in the world. We need a little (in modern conditions, if even after the regime of three wars an unprecedented breakthrough was made in rebuilding and developing the country) time to correct the deeds of the "democrats of wild capitalist pharmacy". There is experience - we need the political will of the country's leadership to take tough measures against the "true capitalists".

    Or maybe it's time to take part in creating a leadership with a political will different from the will of liberal capitalism, under the guise of which intensive pumping of Russia's natural resources takes place !? It's time to go on the attack on the economic front, and not just fight back politically and justify what kind of justice we are! angry